December 18, 2024 • 68 mins
Ever found yourself captivated by the haunting melodies of Mazzy Star and wondered about the stories behind their iconic album "So Tonight That I Might See"? Join us as we reminisce about the enchanting duo Hope Sandoval and David Roback, tracing their journey from the vibrant Paisley Underground scene to the ethereal soundscapes they crafted with Mazzy Star. We're sharing personal anecdotes, including a special shoutout to Tim's trusty sidekick, Dottie, while unpacking the timeless charm of tracks like "Fade Into You" and uncovering the hidden gems that deserve more love.
Get ready to stroll down memory lane as we explore the melancholic beauty of Mazzy Star's music, weaving in lighthearted tales of 90s fashion mishaps and inspired songwriting sessions in local cafes. Our conversation sparkles with laughter and nostalgia as we pay homage to musical giants like Suzanne Vega and honor the legacy of band members David Roback and Kevin Mitchell. Amidst the whimsical banter, we'll reflect on Mazzy Star's distinct aesthetic and the dreamlike quality that has kept fans mesmerized for decades.
And if you thought "Fade Into You" was the only masterpiece on the album, prepare to be surprised. We dive into a spirited debate about our personal favorite tracks, where songs like "Bell's Ring," "Unreflected," and "She's My Baby" shine brightly. Discover how these tunes, with their rich textures and emotive layers, have captured our hearts all over again, making this album a delightful rediscovery and a perennial favorite. Join us for a celebration of music that transcends time and evokes the most vivid of imaginations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, I'm Hope.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm David.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
And we're from Mazzy Star and you're watching 120
Minutes on MTV.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
All right, thank you for listening to Greatest
Non-Hits.
I'm Chris and playing the songFade Into you from the so
Tonight that I Might See albumfrom Mazzy Star is my co-host,
tim, and we want to thank youfor listening.
Subject matter of today'sepisode is that album released
(00:40):
September 27th in 1993 in the UKand then October 5th 1993 here
in the United States.
This is the band Mazzy Star,which is primarily made up of
two musicians Hope Sandoval, thevocalist she plays harmonica,
guitar, tambourine, stuff likethat and then David Roback, who
(01:00):
is the guitar player, piano,keyboard, production, album
design.
And there's some additionalpersonnel Keith Mitchell on
drums, jason Yates on bass,lillian Cooper on strings, dale
Everingham as a technicalassistant.
So it's an album.
(01:21):
It's got 10 tracks.
It's kind of sullen, it's kindof psychedelic.
It's a part of a movement thatwas happening in LA in the early
80s called Paisley Underground.
It's that kind of music youknow, kind of trance, trancy.
I want to say I don't know, butthe band was formed really from
(01:42):
David Roback.
He started off I mean he was anartist you know, went to UCAL
Berkeley at one point in time,traveled to New York early on in
the 80s, disillusioned, cameback to LA, got caught up in
that Paisley Underground, was insome bands, namely Rain Parade.
Namely Rain Parade, he was sortof like a musical partner with
(02:06):
Kendra Smith, who later on left.
They were in a band called Opal.
She left Opal and joined Jesusand Mary Chain and that's when
Sandoval came into the picture.
They sort of hit it off.
I think that they start off.
They start off with uh, underanother name, I don't know, I
(02:27):
can't remember the, the text ofit, but uh.
They later reformed becausethey didn't like the music that
that was.
And so they they reformed andcreated a mazzy star and brought
in those other musicians andwrote up uh, their their first
album, and which did pretty well.
That was back in 1990.
And then from there they madetheir sophomore album, so
(02:50):
Tonight that I Might See them,which is what we're going to
listen to, and it's got somegreat tracks.
The song Fade Into you is whatTim's playing now.
That's been their biggest hitreally of all time and that's
the very first song on thisalbum.
So're gonna listen to all thesongs.
We're gonna rank them, uh, thetop three non-hits, uh the ones
that never, like, really madethe cut, and on this album it's
(03:14):
fade into you.
I think five string serenadewas released as a single and
it's a great song.
Um, I think it's to be up fordebate as to whether or not
we're going to put it into ourtop three.
I think I will, since both Timand I, I mean, we're familiar
with this album.
I never really listened to itthat much, but you know, because
(03:34):
I didn't really dig it.
But I'll tell you what it'spretty deep and the more you
listen to it, the more it growson you.
And really great, great writers.
I think David was writing a lotof the music and he praised
Hope for her lyrical prowess.
(03:54):
She writes a lot of the lyricson this one.
So it's a really good, reallygood album.
Again, you know, of course, youknow we're going to do our
thing.
We're going to get silly lateron, kind of cut it up a little
bit, maybe put in some stupidsound clips.
You know, that's how we do ourthing, so to speak.
We've got Tim's dog here today,dottie.
(04:17):
Shout out to Dottie.
She's hanging around the tablehere.
She's a good girl, so you know,she's going to listen, you're
going to listen, we're going tohave a great time.
And what else can we say?
Let's dig into.
Let's say, fade into, use theHit and everything else is up
for voting.
(04:38):
Some tragedy.
I think 2020 is when RobertSandoval I'm sorry, david
Sandoval passed away from cancer, sadly, they were originally
also on I can't remember whatrecord label it was for their
(04:59):
first album, but between theirfirst and second albums, uh, the
first album, uh, company folded.
They were later signed bycapital records and that's and
david roback is the one whoproduced this as well, so he
performs on it.
He, he self-produced it.
Um, the genre dream pop, Iguess it's you know,
(05:21):
neo-psychedelia um, apparentlyback in the day, in his New York
years, I guess that's when hesort of had aspirations of being
a painter, that kind of artist,I think he kind of got
transfixed on the punk scene andhad every intention of being a
(05:42):
punk rocker.
I think whenever he did it, itit sounded more like what we're
about to hear, which is a littlebit more technical, a little
bit more spacey, ethereal,psychedelic, if you will, more
so than punk and this kind ofworks for them.
So I think what we're going tolisten to is everything coming
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together and I would say, likethis is one of their best albums
, from from my, from myperspective.
Um, it got good reviews too.
Um, you know, back in the day,um, I mean, some were better,
some interviews were better thanothers.
I'm looking at Wikipedia.
I guess the Village Voicecalled it a dud, but yeah, I
(06:29):
agree.
Ned Raggett from AllMusic saidthat.
So Tonight, that I May See,remains the group's undisputed
high point, mixing in plenty ofvariety among its tracks without
losing sight of what's made thegroup so special to begin with.
So I, I'm, I'm on board withthat.
I think it's really good andI'm digging the uh, digging
(06:55):
Tim's a little solo here.
We'll let him wrap up.
He's going to come join us,he's going to give it his twist
and, uh, then we're going to seewhat this crop brings.
So I think it, and it peaked, Ithink, at number three.
At one point in time it wentplatinum in the united states.
(07:15):
They sold a hundred thousandcopies in uk, so more far and
away.
And also they they've been in alot of different movies.
Fade Into you is, I think, over30 movies or stuff like that.
We'll get into that later, butfor now we're going to bring Tim
into the fold.
The guy behind the guy behindthe guy.
(07:38):
How's it going?
Good, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Good, put a little added.
Seventh, added, fifth in there.
Good, how are you doing?
Good, you know.
All right, put a little added.
Seventh, added, fifth in there.
Make a little more happy, alittle more happy of a song.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
That's true.
Yeah, you want to spice it upand I did.
I heard that I should have.
It was very barbershop for sucha sullen kind of a song.
That was sort of like the happyversion.
That was the lightheartedversion.
So I think, you pulled it off.
That's good.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
A little fade.
Got my faded, tattered clotheshere that I've been wearing
since the 90s for this MazzyStar album.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Here let's go yeah you're wearing like a mesh or a
faux mesh sweater.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Very, nineties Very.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah.
Plain and basic basic colorsYou've got.
It's a polyester.
So nineties, your haircutthough.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Isn't much of a fade.
I've got more of a fade, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
So I need to go back, but yeah, you've, you've got it
.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
The barbershop rounded.
Yeah, the barbershop.
Yeah, exactly any.
Any last thoughts?
I mean any any well anyanecdotes.
I mean you, you've.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I mean maize you're a little red hope.
Hope is uh, you know, probablyuh just a crush.
You know, probably uh just acrush.
You know, male crush.
Everybody loved hope.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Really You're digging her, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, I mean she's cute yeah.
She's like the pre, she's likecalled Pouty the the late Lana
Del Rey um of of of the ninetiesreally.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah Of the 90s, really yeah, sure, I don't know.
Yeah, this album, I'm going incold.
I'm really not.
I know the hits.
I like what I've listened to sofar.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Oh, you're cold on this.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, I've heard Five String Serenade and Fade Into
you.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
But the rest of them.
I'm kind of going in cold too,like the last three or four so
she's a star sorry, I guess astar is born.
Here we go, we're getting intoit.
All right, let's queue it up.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You ready to go?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
she's a star okay, that's, that's so.
Wait, what do we do?
Here we go, fade into you theone hit.
Just subtle lines intertwined,very lick my love pump-ish kind
(10:25):
of writing.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Subtle, dreamy.
Look to you To see the truth.
You live your life.
You go where Shadows.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I think she's David Roback.
They were kind of a thing,weren't they, I guess.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I mean, you're making Music like this.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yeah, they apparently don't need to speak Cause
they're so kind of thing,weren't they?
I guess, when you're makingmusic like this?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
they apparently don't need to speak because they're
so yeah.
Didn't we read somewhere too,that she writes the lyrics.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
She goes into, like coffee shops and cafes and
listens to other people'sconversations to get ideas.
Yeah, and she embellishes them,she Tom Diners.
It Is that how you Tom Diner?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Tom Diner, what's Suzanne Vega?
Oh, okay, oh, of course, butnot like.
Same standard, different yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Shout out to her.
Suzanne Vega.
Shout out to Susanna Hoffs.
I think she and Roback were ina band before this ever happened
.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Oh, such a right.
Anyhow, if you think that I'mgoing to sit around and wait for
you.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
You can forget it.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
We broke up two months ago.
Yeah, poor Linda.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Are you mental?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Yeah, are you crying Sorry, are you crying Am?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I crying no, I'm not crying.
It's just so emotional.
Yeah, this is sad.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
This is sad.
It can't be that hard.
Let's go home.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Let's go home, you put your hands into your head.
Just go home.
Just go home.
That's your home.
Are you too good for your home?
Answer me Cover your heartStrange.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I need it out of you.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
She's keeping good time, tamarind.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Good drummer.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Great look, good drummer.
Great look, yeah, kevinMitchell.
He died too 2017.
Sorry to laugh.
Yeah, that wasn't Chris, thatwas Tamarind.
I set that up, so died too 2017.
Sorry to laugh, yeah, that's.
That's.
That wasn't Chris, that was Tim.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Set that up so horribly?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, that was partly .
That was partly.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
What do you?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
think I was a little too mad or backed on that, a
little too excited about it.
I was excited to drop theknowledge.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That was right when referencing, I know.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
One of these days I'll go pro at this.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Once more into the breach, dear friends, once more
into the breach.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Dear friends, I think it's strange.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
you know it's like Hawaiian, it is a little
Hawaiian.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I think it's strange, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Let's see if we have a.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
A little rain there.
Yeah, some aggressive rain.
Rain seems to be a themethroughout this and their career
, for that matter.
They had a rain parade.
It's starting to become clear.
Rain is on this song.
It's starting to become clear.
Rain is on this song Soundslike a Mr Santa Rainy Night.
(15:18):
So this is called Bell's Ring,okay.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Alright.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Alright, we're getting somewhere.
I'm digging the lyrics.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Hold me down by the water.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, now it's getting dark.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I hope this is part of the embellishment, Trying to
get your bell rung, Hold held,dive down by the water.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I can't believe it.
Look out to see the witness inthe sky.
Nobody's out to write a story.
Nobody wants to know yourreason why.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
They walked on down the hall.
Your arms are torn in one handBriefcase to.
Mary Look on.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Let God be free.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Let God be free but only if you believe I don't even
know what she's saying half thetime.
Well, I mean, yeah, we havethis.
It's kind of mumbly.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, I mean, I think this is good, like you're
really wasted or something.
You just had a bad night.
Yeah, you just broke.
I think this is good, likeyou're really wasted or
something.
You just had a bad night.
Yeah, you just broke up withyour boyfriend, or whatever.
It's like one in the morningyou plop down to your bed and
you're all tired.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
The room is kind of spinning and you're sort of
listening to this Nude music.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, are you having thoughts, man?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I mean it's angsty, it's angsty.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I kind of like how they're changing this up a
little bit.
It's just unfolding too slowfor me.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
On this listen he's letting the guitar shred a
little bit.
Yeah, work, it work itbabyourines going yeah.
(19:22):
Yeah, Hope is doing all that,you going to do something about
your sideburns?
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
All right.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
So, that was Bell's.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Ring okay.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
This is Berry of silence.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Briefcase to Mary.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Briefcase to Mary.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Swanson it walked on down the hall.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah, it does.
It has that.
This is the end beginning.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
This one's definitely going to be a greatest nonhead
right here.
I just this one might be upthere with some of our best deep
dives.
This one, I think so yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, this is some of our best deep dives, this one,
I think so, yeah, yeah, this isgood.
I'm on your side, you in myheart, with a smile.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Oh, sweet Mary, Come inside for a while.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
You're telling me there's a chance.
Help me get a hold of you.
Oh, I look in the night.
This is a song that's like inbetween.
Very erotic and like psycho,like crazy.
(20:54):
We're sort of in that.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I'm starting to get scared a little bit.
This is kind of like BrianJonestown Massacre a little bit.
That was what they're.
We haven't done that one.
We'll do that one soon, weshould.
I'll do that.
Brian's Jonetown Massacre andthe Dandy Warhols Two great
(21:20):
names for bands.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Brian's Jotetown Massacre is awesome.
I'm now angry that I never, wasin a band with that.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Briefcase to Mary.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Briefcase to Mary.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Briefcase to Mary.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yeah, we're in the dark with that man and it came
to a door Look.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Mary, it's nice to hold faith Fade into Mary of
silence.
Look Mary.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Look, Mary.
I know this may seem a little,but I've given it a lot of
thought.
You're the woman I've beenwaiting for my whole life.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I like it.
It's good.
I'm desperate, I know.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I just and I'm not ashamed to admit it, it's good,
desperate, I know, I just andI'm not ashamed to admit it.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Please Let me finish.
You're telling me there's achance.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Sounds like.
Is she like in a Starbuckswriting right miss, like what's
the deal?
She's like overhearing aconversation and then she wrote
a song around this, I think look, mary.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Briefcase to Mary.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
What about Kendra Smith?
Because this is.
She was in the Jesus and Marychain.
I wonder if there's any thoughtbehind Sweet Mary's Son.
Yes, some crossover, oh nice.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Whoa, I love this, yeah, this.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Work it.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Work it, work it, baby, work it, work it, baby,
work it, work it, own it.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yes, you can handle this.
First is here someone Once moreinto the breach.
Dear friends, Listen to thatsustain.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
This is epic.
Fuck, yeah, this is yeah.
This is An area of silence.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I am, I am aroused.
What the hell man, what's goingon?
Oh, I just got to hear that onemore time.
What the hell man, what's goingon?
Oh, I just got to hear that onemore time.
All right we'll skip ahead alittle bit.
It just goes on sweet mirrorsilence.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Are you mental Light of my life?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
That's baby making, isn't it?
That's what that is.
Yes, that's baby making.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
That's what that is.
Yes, there is nothing more tobe added to it.
Alright, nah, we're justgetting, we're getting weird,
we're getting stupid shout outto Foghorn Leghorn.
Shout out to theoghorn Leghorn.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Shout out to the tea drinkers, the runners, the
walkers, the mutes.
Yeah, oh yeah.
You don't need to say anythingto be cool.
Yeah, we love the mutes.
You don't need to say anythingto be cool, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Whoa.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Oh, that you're now can be what I consider the past,
okay.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
This one is Five String Serenade.
Is this going to be a hit?
I don't know, because it wasreleased as a single, but it
sounds kind of vaguely familiar,I think.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I've heard this before, I've never heard it, but
oh, besides Once before this.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
But this is my five-string serenade Beneath the
water of play, and while I'mplaying for you, it could be
raining that year trying tofigure out what, what this
(27:12):
five-string serenade?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
is this just like a face value of a chord, or is it
something more like subtle?
Yeah, five fingers, yeah,serenade it's five fingers,
something, no, something likethat.
(27:33):
Maybe that's code for that shewas in a diner.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Somebody was talking about that.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
She wrote it down exactly, so you know, I'm doing
the five fingers serenade, right?
Yes, miss.
Can I have another iced teaplease?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
yeah, so you know that kind of thing, your
serenade right?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yes, miss can I have another iced tea please?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, so you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah, so she listens to that, goes back home and then
that's how we came back.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
It is very beautiful.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Just take it easy, champ.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Okay, maybe I need to sit.
The next couple plays out.
Let Tim take over for you.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Not great kisser, but she had the biggest Adam's
apple.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
This is touching.
It's beautiful, it's verytouching.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Sorry, we're ruining it everybody.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Happy ring that he.
It's very touching.
Sorry we're ruining iteverybody.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
William Cooper on the strings, man, you're really.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Coopy.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Cooper-loop.
Shout out to the Coopers outthere In occupation and in
surname.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Shout out to the Coopers out there In occupation
and, in surname, shout out tothe window, guys, the door guys.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
The roofers, ah, the doormen.
I love the doormen.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
The doorman, yeah, doorman.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, and shout out to the dormants and the doorman
yeah, and the Dormen, you'rechecking the shit out of those
IDs.
Check it.
Yep.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Check it.
Are you going to find lovetonight?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Yeah, it can't be that hard.
I mean, you've been in lovebefore.
Well, just once With you.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Joey E she doesn't like you Awkward.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Tip to those doormen out there.
Florida has a distinct.
It might be raining that year.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Tip to those doormen out there.
Florida has a distinctwatermark, you know, can't miss
it.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Is it rain?
This is my five-string sermon.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Aw, I'm all for clapped.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Oh wait, just a minute.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
All right, this one is called Blue Light.
It's kind of a country western.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, a little bit.
It's got that feel to it, alittle bit of Chris Isaac going
on here.
Oh yeah, shout out Wicked Game.
Yes, this whole album is WickedGame.
Okay, this whole album is likeWicked Game.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
It really is.
This is good yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
There's a blue light in my restaurant room.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
There's a blue light.
He's got big eyes, big eyes.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
It's freaky.
There's a blue light, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
I wanna see it Shine.
You're my boy Blue.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
There you go.
You're my boy, light of my life.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Sails by my window.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Old wooden ship.
Thank you, ron Burgundy.
Were you around when Kmart waspopular?
Yeah, remember that 87 BlueLight special.
That's what I think about BlueLight special.
I just can't get past the bluelight.
(32:33):
It's not their fault, it's mine, but I mean, if there's a not,
this is a beautiful song, justgot an awesome voice.
It's all throaty and breathyand hot, super hot super old
wooden ship.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Super hot, super hot.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Old wooden ship.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
You know who really loves this album.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Surfers Say bye.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Anybody else who does like, like Bengals fans maybe,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Hotel owners, hotel innkeepers.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Light of my life.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Jack Torrance's.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Oh God, Let me say something.
Let me say something.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
What it's kind of like funeral music.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
It's like that little organ in the background.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, the organ's very good.
I'm digging that this could beup there, my top three.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Really.
Oh okay, there's still somegood songs ahead too.
We've heard A couple of othersthat were the waves are beating
her.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
She's getting beat down by the waves.
I think I hear them Wavescrashing me back.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Well, I'll tell you still.
I did battle some humongouswaves.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Crash my wheel bye.
Hope you have a cool buzz outthere.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
All I need are some tasty waves and some cool buds.
I'm fine, this must be.
That's baby making music.
That's what that is.
Yeah, that's Roback.
(35:26):
He's playing.
He's a good guitar player.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I mean, yeah, he's a sensitive Minimal, yeah,
minimalist, minimalist, which isyeah for a minimalist it's,
it's good notes.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
He's filling the space with that's.
That's the thing is.
This is the simplicity of allthis yeah so this is a less is
more, yeah example of somebodydoing it right.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Oh, is this the out?
Speaker 3 (35:51):
So this is called she's my Baby Mom.
Mom, this is Zeppelin-y MamaMom.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Mommy, mommy.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Dear Lord, baby Jesus .
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I'm hearing like smashing pumpkins in this a
little bit.
Ron Weier, baby Jesus.
I'm hearing like SmashingPumpkins in this a little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Ron Weyer Stomp Led Zeppelin yeah that.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yes, work it, ron, you're a stomp.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
She's my baby.
She belongs to me, butyesterday she walked home on the
road.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Sting goes out there.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Everybody else looks at my baby them.
They want to know where I'm atthe baby's feeling bad.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Roback's a really impressive guy because he's
producing these tunes.
Yeah, he's a good use of timeand space and the reverb and the
echo.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Time is timeless.
This is a timeless.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I think I saw my baby .
Speaker 1 (37:34):
That's right, that's right.
See you Yesterday, another day.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Another day, baby.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Saw your baby walking Homeward.
Baby baby, Baby, baby.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Baby, baby, Baby baby .
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Baby baby, baby, baby .
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I'm feeling sorry, Maybe baby.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
What?
What is she saying?
All right, this one'sskyrocketing at the top.
Oh my God, the discordance ofthe solo is.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah, this one is very spiritual, Easy baby.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
You don't want to get hooked on this stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Yeah, thanks for cutting man.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
This is starting to get too heavy for me.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Oh, never, never, let's go home.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Once more into the beach.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
It's another.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yeah they're mixing the doors with Zeppelin, with
(39:49):
Zaplin.
There is nothing more to beadded to it.
Yeah, there's a row back withthe guitar.
That was all Tim, with thesound clips.
Shout out to Tim, mentioningthat mostly because I don't want
to take credit for it.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
No.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
I'm just teasing.
No, you did a good job, thatwas good.
It's a good song too.
That was pretty heavy.
That's right.
This one's called Unreflected.
This is like a different moodnow More.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Raga, the sun's coming up.
This is earthy.
The vegetables are sprouting,yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
The hippies are dancing.
This is somewhere betweenhippie and yacht rock, or
something I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
They're dancing the compost into the ground.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah, and they're like harvesting maize, maizey,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Mazzy, mazzy.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
You can say Mazzy, mazzy.
It just doesn't seem likeanybody cares.
Shimano, yeah, shimano, shimano, they said they called it Mazzy
stuff.
We can say Mazzy, then what thefuck?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Once it's last fortune is in the soul, the
unreflected feeling of the shoreand fine snow, oh no, a laugh
that cuts through An hour's inthe past.
(41:42):
Now, this is deep In ourmemories.
We don't have much to say.
We don't have much to say.
We don't have much to say wedon't have much Follow anybody.
(42:14):
Is that what you do?
Maybe it's the transplants,maybe transplants, maybe
transplants, maybe transplants,maybe transplants, maybe
transplants, maybe transplants,maybe transplants, maybe
transplants, maybe transplants,maybe transplants, maybe
transplants, maybe transplants,maybe transplants, maybe
transplants.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Maybe transplants Maybe transplants.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Now we know what we'll be in the past.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
This is a coffee shop thing too, this one.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Another story?
Yeah, we need to Song facts.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Another life, that's left.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Another life that's left.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Another life Death's left, yeah people don't write
(43:36):
songs like this anymore.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
It's good.
I like the Maracas.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, that is good.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Slower pace, simpler song.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Yeah, yeah, really good.
So this next one is going to becalled Wasted.
It's going to be boozy.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
You can feel it.
I think Ron White likes thisone.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
I was drunk in a bar, they threw me into public.
I don't want to be drunk in abar.
They threw me into public.
I don't want to be drunk inpublic.
I want to be drunk in a goddamnbar, which is perfectly legal.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Arrest them.
After I stuck my hands intoyour ground and pulled out, I
guess she was linked at onepoint in time to William Reed,
the guitarist of Jesus and MaryChain, and he later told
(45:06):
Goldmine I was in love with hope, but it was the unhappiest time
of my life.
Yeah, I can see that I feltlike I've been Wasted all day
long.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
All day long.
Come on over here.
Let's have a look at you AfterI've bent my head.
Is this a boy?
Speaker 1 (45:39):
To my knees and raised my hands up right above
my head.
I felt a little bit up, alittle bit right.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
This is a song that's probably good listening.
When you're laying around kindof wasted.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, it's a good cleaning song, it's a good
running song.
Say away.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Darling, light, light light.
I'm not going to hurt you.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
You didn't let me finish my sentence.
Oh, you can't play the wholething, okay, oh.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, got to get out of the house.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Weight lifting song Could be all those things.
I guess it's not as rigid aschest beating.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
It's really wasted At your house by yourself.
Rock and roll, yeah, walk ondown the hall.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
I've fallen and I can't get up A little play flirt
, yeah, shout out.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Shout out to Nana.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
A little light stone.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Stay away Jamming into life All the day long.
All day long, we're alwayswasting on something.
(47:50):
Yeah, Even if we're not druggedper se or drugging and
poisoning ourselves yeah exactly.
We're still wasted on ourshitty job.
I know I'm telling youChemicals in the air, chemicals
in the water.
We're wasted on that.
But, you know you've got to beresilient and we're going to get
(48:14):
through this.
Get some cilantro in your assNot in your ass, but don't do a
cilantro anime.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
I know what you mean.
The cilantro is a nice freshherb that nourishes your body
and provides unwasted to you.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yeah, unwastifies you .
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Yeah, exactly, it detoxes you Heavy metals, it
brings life into your body.
It is life itself and it'sgoing into you and it's
contributing to the microbiomeOf your insides.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Ginger, ginger, turmeric.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
Turmeric yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Of course, sesame seeds are good for you.
Yeah, freaking walnuts.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Brazil nuts have plenty of selenium, I think I
prefer Argentine, nuts,argentine, okay yeah.
Uruguayan what.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Peruvian nuts.
Uruguayan nuts.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah, that's what she said.
No, I'm not kidding, you're agay nut.
Yeah, shout out to the gay nutsout there.
Speaker 4 (49:20):
Jam it in the light.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Okay, wasted Rock and roll.
All right, I have.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
Into Dust.
Yeah, this sounds likeFleetwood Mac.
This is a good song.
Yeah, this sounds likeFleetwood Mac.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
This is a good song.
Yeah, you can't really dust forvomit.
Oh, there's a flute in here.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
Yeah, a koopa loop on the strings.
Yeah, that sounds exactly like.
Yeah, I'm talking aboutFleetwood Mac.
(50:14):
What's I'm blanking now?
I'm sorry, what's her name fromFleetwood Mac?
Stevie Nicks?
Speaker 1 (50:21):
yeah, inside today beside me, beside me today,
(50:46):
around, broken and torn, roundand round, deeper and deeper,
till your eyes Share Into Dark.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Like two Strangers Turning Into.
I am not An angel dust dealer.
Is this like a drug song, angeldust or something like that?
No, I am not an angel dustdealer.
Yeah like that.
They don't do that, I mean atthis time.
Angel dust was like out of the.
(51:27):
I guess it was like out ofcirculation.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
You want to take your brain out of your head and wash
it and scrub it and make itclean.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
I think we both need to sit.
The next couple plays out.
No, no, keep, keep playing.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
I could possibly be fading or have something more to
gain.
This is gonna be cold.
Speaker 4 (52:31):
No, you're fast.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Your face.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
It's like another Mr Han Hands, and feet, yeah, the
hands.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
This is Should be a modern day classic, honestly, I
know.
Yeah, it's up there.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
It was you, breathless and torn.
I could feel my eyes turninginto dust and two strangers
(53:33):
Turning into dust, turning intodust All right.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
shout out to Mazzy Star.
What a classic album.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
I'm thinking I'm lining up my top three Just sit
in the recording studio and comeup with this stuff like
instantly.
It's so wild.
Yeah, it's just like a reallygood partnership between her
lyrics and his song crafting,and out of all the band
(54:37):
combinations of Hope and David,this one was the big winner out
of all of them, you know.
Speaker 3 (54:47):
And to think are they still touring?
I don't know, I don't know,it's very nice.
We got like one more left, Ithink.
I don't know, I'll go follow,I'll see.
This is good.
All right, it's very nice.
We got like one more left Ithink that was Into Dust and
then this last one, so Tonightthat I Might See this, is it?
Speaker 4 (55:13):
Oh yeah, it is.
That's kind of good.
Speaker 3 (55:23):
Sort of like Middle Eastern kind of a thing.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
This does sound a lot like Brian's Jonestown Massacre
.
Okay, you gotta listen.
Yeah, sound a lot like brian'sjones town jones town massacre.
Okay, you gotta listen, yeah.
Oh, I hear some tasty waves,cool buzz and I'm fine yeah,
(55:51):
shout out to Spicoli.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
She's right-sided.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
She's walking down the hall on this one, yeah well,
it's a narration Kind of like.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
This is the end, yeah .
Speaker 3 (56:20):
Totally borrowing from the Doors, but it's still
their own.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
But I think they do it better than the.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
Doors.
I'm serious, I think they do itbetter than the Dwarves.
Speaker 4 (56:38):
I'm serious, I'm not going to give you a ride.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
I'm going to show you a ride.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Taste the wind.
Speaker 3 (56:54):
Lock me Taste the wind.
Speaker 4 (56:56):
A taste of wind.
Speaker 3 (57:04):
The wind.
Who lock me?
Does the wind indeed like me?
Speaker 1 (57:25):
It's kind of clever.
If you look, I find the dark.
Stop me now, I find me too hard.
Let me hold you tight like rainsunshine over in the day.
Rain sunshine.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
Let me hold you tight like rain and sunshine over in
the day.
Rain sunshine.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Let me hold you tight and have you stand along.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
Arms and legs.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
I'm so close that I might see you crash.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
The guitar yeah.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
You're talking about the up and down, yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
It's like a siren call.
She is like a siren, a modernday siren, like tempting boats
to a rocky grave.
(58:25):
David's guitar summons Poseidon.
Speaker 1 (58:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:39):
Yeah, that guitar is just screaming in the background
.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
There's like so many different layers going on.
I don't really know what tofocus on.
I'm so tired.
Speaker 3 (59:33):
You're not alone who got the lighter.
Speaker 4 (59:35):
Wow man this is really good.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
This is really good.
Work it, work it, baby.
Speaker 3 (59:48):
Work it All go back, like all the guitar workups.
Speaker 2 (59:55):
I don't know song she plays in town, maybe in Houston
she plays a rhythm.
Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Yeah, that first album was she Hates Bright,
bright.
I just think a lot of thesesongs could have been hits.
It's too bad.
There was like one that justhit super big.
(01:00:48):
It's a really great song.
I don't think it's in the topthree.
Fade into you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Would Fade Into you be in your top three if it
weren't in there?
I don't think so, no.
Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
I can name three songs that I like better than
that.
Oh for sure.
I mean, I could probably golike five or six.
Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Give it some air.
Yeah, this is great, play withit.
You know, yeah, it's, yeah,it'll end.
Play with it.
You know, yeah, it's uh, yeah,it'll, it'll end yeah in time.
Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
It's just like yeah, this is this is there, this is
the end, but I guess we canargue about that.
Yeah, this is there, this isthe end, but I guess we can
argue about that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I haven't done it earlier.
Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
All right, yeah, mary of Silence could probably be.
Yeah, that's probably good.
This is the end, but that'slike a part deux.
It's midnight.
Okay, nice little add in there.
Okay, man.
So what are you thinking?
We got to go right into the topthree.
Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Oh, man, man, oh man.
I think this is hard becausethe way that song ended.
Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
I want that almost in my top three.
Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
I know, I mean we could have a top five here and I
think if my top five I'm justgoing to do five she's my baby.
Uh, and then four is wasted.
I really like those songs, Wow.
Okay, but three.
Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
I'm going to say into the dust, into dust.
Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Yes, that was a really touching song that
deserves a lot of listen.
Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Yeah, that could have been on rumors, you know, yeah,
yeah, I really like yourcomparison there.
That was good.
Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Yeah, it was yeah A modern day like reserve nineties
, fleetwood Mac, ish kind of.
Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Right, yeah, what about you?
Um, I'm going to go with fivestring.
Ser Fleetwood Mac-ish kind ofRight, yeah, what about you?
I'm going to go with FiveStrings.
Serenade is my number three.
Okay, it was very I like thestrings on it and it was kind of
it was very touching and it wasvery beautiful, and so I think
it was and it was just like theright length, you know.
Okay, so it's my number three.
All right, I think it was, uh,and it was just like the right
(01:03:53):
length, you know so okay.
It was my number three.
Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
All right, my number two has to be so to night that I
might, might see.
Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Wow Okay, good for you.
Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
I mean it's gotta be on there.
Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
It was strong, it was it was a strong, it was tough
last track.
Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
I really like the rambling of it, sort of the like
non-structure.
Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
It was really good.
It was chaos.
There was a lot of chaos.
Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
There was a lot of disorders yeah, the noodling,
the harsh, the harsh noodling,with her uh soothing voice, it
kind of like equaled it out,yeah, yeah, in a way which is of
course I think, like at anygiven night, that that's a kind
of a song, I mean spoiler.
Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
it's not going to be in my top three, but so tonight
that I might see was sort of um,it could be at any given night.
I could put that as my numberone.
Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Yeah, fair.
Yeah put that as my number one.
Yeah, fair, yeah, but uh, itjust tonight it just didn't hit
with me, you know, but nottonight.
So tonight, yeah, not tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
But you know, if I give it another list, I could
totally see me like oh yeah, Icompletely missed that.
My number two is going to beinto dust.
Like you like, um, the samereasons that you liked it.
Um, it was just so.
It was crafted really well andit was simple.
I like the really simple songson here.
A lot of these chaotic ones areawesome too, but more strings,
(01:05:21):
yeah, yeah, and so it hit withme.
That's my number two.
Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Okay, yeah, I think when I heard it.
Number three Mary of Silence ismy number one.
Yes, because it really isDoors-esque, like Hope.
Sandoval is potentially the JimMorrison female version of Jim
(01:05:46):
Morrison from the 90s Of course.
And Ray Manzarek versus DavidRoback.
Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
I mean, I don't know, you got oh you're just sort of
they even have, you know, theykind of have the same
disposition.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Yeah, hope's good looking.
Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
You know Jim's good looking Like charismatic yeah,
in a, in a.
You know like a like a sensualway, yeah, and then Ray Mancero
cause, like the nerd in thebackground, and so there's row
back and there.
Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
but they're, they take you off the cliff with
these emotional uh numbers thatthey have here.
Yeah, exactly, yeah, that's mynumber one as well.
Really.
Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Mary silence is, okay , yeah, the clear cut winner in
this one.
Yeah, yeah, for the reasons youmentioned.
Yeah, yeah, it reminded me ofthis Is the End.
I thought it may even be betterthan this Is the End.
Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
That was a good pick too.
Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Yeah, I liked how that they borrowed from it.
That was the brilliance of it.
They borrowed from it, theymade it better and in a way
that's fresh.
Yeah Versus hearing.
This is the end it's beenoverplayed.
Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Honorable mention to Bell's Ring and Unreflected
those are great songs.
For me, she's my Baby, andWasted could be in my top three
on any other given time I listento it yeah, I liked all of them
, of course, man.
Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Yeah, that was the thing Fade Into.
Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
You isn't even on our favorites for this.
Yeah, I liked all of them, ofcourse, man.
Yeah, that was the thing FadeInto.
You isn't even on our favoritesfor this.
Yeah, no and that's a greatsong as well, and it's
interesting that they startedthe album with that.
Yeah, Because it's so soft Forme.
My style probably would be likeyou get the people moving first
(01:07:34):
before you bring them down fair, but they went right for fade
into you and then kind of buildit up a little bit.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
They've got that Mary a silence like the third song.
I liked it.
I liked the way they threw itOkay yeah.
It was good.
Five string serenade it's agreat song and I it's a great
song and it was right afterwardsand and strong too, you know.
So, yeah, good, good stuff andit was a play.
This is probably my my surprisefavorite of the year.
Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Wow Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
You know, I think it might be, you know, wow, okay.
Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
Yeah, it was, just it was.
Yeah, it's up there.
Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Surprisingly, not you know, maybe I'm just, you know,
in the mood, but this is.
Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
I was really happy to discover this and thanks for
listening with us and thank youall right, take care.
Hi, I'm Hope.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm David.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
And we're from Mazzy Star and you're watching 120
Minutes on MTV.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
All right, thank you for listening to Greatest
Non-Hits.
I'm Chris and playing the songFade Into you from the so
Tonight that I Might See albumfrom Mazzy Star is my co-host,
tim, and we want to thank youfor listening.
Subject matter of today'sepisode is that album released
(00:40):
September 27th in 1993 in the UKand then October 5th 1993 here
in the United States.
This is the band Mazzy Star,which is primarily made up of
two musicians Hope Sandoval, thevocalist she plays harmonica,
guitar, tambourine, stuff likethat and then David Roback, who
(01:00):
is the guitar player, piano,keyboard, production, album
design.
And there's some additionalpersonnel Keith Mitchell on
drums, jason Yates on bass,lillian Cooper on strings, dale
Everingham as a technicalassistant.
So it's an album.
(01:21):
It's got 10 tracks.
It's kind of sullen, it's kindof psychedelic.
It's a part of a movement thatwas happening in LA in the early
80s called Paisley Underground.
It's that kind of music youknow, kind of trance, trancy.
I want to say I don't know, butthe band was formed really from
(01:42):
David Roback.
He started off I mean he was anartist you know, went to UCAL
Berkeley at one point in time,traveled to New York early on in
the 80s, disillusioned, cameback to LA, got caught up in
that Paisley Underground, was insome bands, namely Rain Parade.
Namely Rain Parade, he was sortof like a musical partner with
(02:06):
Kendra Smith, who later on left.
They were in a band called Opal.
She left Opal and joined Jesusand Mary Chain and that's when
Sandoval came into the picture.
They sort of hit it off.
I think that they start off.
They start off with uh, underanother name, I don't know, I
(02:27):
can't remember the, the text ofit, but uh.
They later reformed becausethey didn't like the music that
that was.
And so they they reformed andcreated a mazzy star and brought
in those other musicians andwrote up uh, their their first
album, and which did pretty well.
That was back in 1990.
And then from there they madetheir sophomore album, so
(02:50):
Tonight that I Might See them,which is what we're going to
listen to, and it's got somegreat tracks.
The song Fade Into you is whatTim's playing now.
That's been their biggest hitreally of all time and that's
the very first song on thisalbum.
So're gonna listen to all thesongs.
We're gonna rank them, uh, thetop three non-hits, uh the ones
that never, like, really madethe cut, and on this album it's
(03:14):
fade into you.
I think five string serenadewas released as a single and
it's a great song.
Um, I think it's to be up fordebate as to whether or not
we're going to put it into ourtop three.
I think I will, since both Timand I, I mean, we're familiar
with this album.
I never really listened to itthat much, but you know, because
(03:34):
I didn't really dig it.
But I'll tell you what it'spretty deep and the more you
listen to it, the more it growson you.
And really great, great writers.
I think David was writing a lotof the music and he praised
Hope for her lyrical prowess.
(03:54):
She writes a lot of the lyricson this one.
So it's a really good, reallygood album.
Again, you know, of course, youknow we're going to do our
thing.
We're going to get silly lateron, kind of cut it up a little
bit, maybe put in some stupidsound clips.
You know, that's how we do ourthing, so to speak.
We've got Tim's dog here today,dottie.
(04:17):
Shout out to Dottie.
She's hanging around the tablehere.
She's a good girl, so you know,she's going to listen, you're
going to listen, we're going tohave a great time.
And what else can we say?
Let's dig into.
Let's say, fade into, use theHit and everything else is up
for voting.
(04:38):
Some tragedy.
I think 2020 is when RobertSandoval I'm sorry, david
Sandoval passed away from cancer, sadly, they were originally
also on I can't remember whatrecord label it was for their
(04:59):
first album, but between theirfirst and second albums, uh, the
first album, uh, company folded.
They were later signed bycapital records and that's and
david roback is the one whoproduced this as well, so he
performs on it.
He, he self-produced it.
Um, the genre dream pop, Iguess it's you know,
(05:21):
neo-psychedelia um, apparentlyback in the day, in his New York
years, I guess that's when hesort of had aspirations of being
a painter, that kind of artist,I think he kind of got
transfixed on the punk scene andhad every intention of being a
(05:42):
punk rocker.
I think whenever he did it, itit sounded more like what we're
about to hear, which is a littlebit more technical, a little
bit more spacey, ethereal,psychedelic, if you will, more
so than punk and this kind ofworks for them.
So I think what we're going tolisten to is everything coming
(06:03):
together and I would say, likethis is one of their best albums
, from from my, from myperspective.
Um, it got good reviews too.
Um, you know, back in the day,um, I mean, some were better,
some interviews were better thanothers.
I'm looking at Wikipedia.
I guess the Village Voicecalled it a dud, but yeah, I
(06:29):
agree.
Ned Raggett from AllMusic saidthat.
So Tonight, that I May See,remains the group's undisputed
high point, mixing in plenty ofvariety among its tracks without
losing sight of what's made thegroup so special to begin with.
So I, I'm, I'm on board withthat.
I think it's really good andI'm digging the uh, digging
(06:55):
Tim's a little solo here.
We'll let him wrap up.
He's going to come join us,he's going to give it his twist
and, uh, then we're going to seewhat this crop brings.
So I think it, and it peaked, Ithink, at number three.
At one point in time it wentplatinum in the united states.
(07:15):
They sold a hundred thousandcopies in uk, so more far and
away.
And also they they've been in alot of different movies.
Fade Into you is, I think, over30 movies or stuff like that.
We'll get into that later, butfor now we're going to bring Tim
into the fold.
The guy behind the guy behindthe guy.
(07:38):
How's it going?
Good, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Good, put a little added.
Seventh, added, fifth in there.
Good, how are you doing?
Good, you know.
All right, put a little added.
Seventh, added, fifth in there.
Make a little more happy, alittle more happy of a song.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
That's true.
Yeah, you want to spice it upand I did.
I heard that I should have.
It was very barbershop for sucha sullen kind of a song.
That was sort of like the happyversion.
That was the lightheartedversion.
So I think, you pulled it off.
That's good.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
A little fade.
Got my faded, tattered clotheshere that I've been wearing
since the 90s for this MazzyStar album.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Here let's go yeah you're wearing like a mesh or a
faux mesh sweater.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Very, nineties Very.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah.
Plain and basic basic colorsYou've got.
It's a polyester.
So nineties, your haircutthough.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Isn't much of a fade.
I've got more of a fade, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
So I need to go back, but yeah, you've, you've got it
.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
The barbershop rounded.
Yeah, the barbershop.
Yeah, exactly any.
Any last thoughts?
I mean any any well anyanecdotes.
I mean you, you've.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I mean maize you're a little red hope.
Hope is uh, you know, probablyuh just a crush.
You know, probably uh just acrush.
You know, male crush.
Everybody loved hope.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Really You're digging her, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, I mean she's cute yeah.
She's like the pre, she's likecalled Pouty the the late Lana
Del Rey um of of of the ninetiesreally.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah Of the 90s, really yeah, sure, I don't know.
Yeah, this album, I'm going incold.
I'm really not.
I know the hits.
I like what I've listened to sofar.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Oh, you're cold on this.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, I've heard Five String Serenade and Fade Into
you.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
But the rest of them.
I'm kind of going in cold too,like the last three or four so
she's a star sorry, I guess astar is born.
Here we go, we're getting intoit.
All right, let's queue it up.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You ready to go?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
she's a star okay, that's, that's so.
Wait, what do we do?
Here we go, fade into you theone hit.
Just subtle lines intertwined,very lick my love pump-ish kind
(10:25):
of writing.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Subtle, dreamy.
Look to you To see the truth.
You live your life.
You go where Shadows.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I think she's David Roback.
They were kind of a thing,weren't they, I guess.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I mean, you're making Music like this.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yeah, they apparently don't need to speak Cause
they're so kind of thing,weren't they?
I guess, when you're makingmusic like this?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
they apparently don't need to speak because they're
so yeah.
Didn't we read somewhere too,that she writes the lyrics.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
She goes into, like coffee shops and cafes and
listens to other people'sconversations to get ideas.
Yeah, and she embellishes them,she Tom Diners.
It Is that how you Tom Diner?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Tom Diner, what's Suzanne Vega?
Oh, okay, oh, of course, butnot like.
Same standard, different yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Shout out to her.
Suzanne Vega.
Shout out to Susanna Hoffs.
I think she and Roback were ina band before this ever happened
.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Oh, such a right.
Anyhow, if you think that I'mgoing to sit around and wait for
you.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
You can forget it.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
We broke up two months ago.
Yeah, poor Linda.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Are you mental?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Yeah, are you crying Sorry, are you crying Am?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I crying no, I'm not crying.
It's just so emotional.
Yeah, this is sad.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
This is sad.
It can't be that hard.
Let's go home.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Let's go home, you put your hands into your head.
Just go home.
Just go home.
That's your home.
Are you too good for your home?
Answer me Cover your heartStrange.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I need it out of you.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
She's keeping good time, tamarind.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Good drummer.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Great look, good drummer.
Great look, yeah, kevinMitchell.
He died too 2017.
Sorry to laugh.
Yeah, that wasn't Chris, thatwas Tamarind.
I set that up, so died too 2017.
Sorry to laugh, yeah, that's.
That's.
That wasn't Chris, that was Tim.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Set that up so horribly?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, that was partly .
That was partly.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
What do you?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
think I was a little too mad or backed on that, a
little too excited about it.
I was excited to drop theknowledge.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That was right when referencing, I know.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
One of these days I'll go pro at this.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Once more into the breach, dear friends, once more
into the breach.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Dear friends, I think it's strange.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
you know it's like Hawaiian, it is a little
Hawaiian.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I think it's strange, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Let's see if we have a.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
A little rain there.
Yeah, some aggressive rain.
Rain seems to be a themethroughout this and their career
, for that matter.
They had a rain parade.
It's starting to become clear.
Rain is on this song.
It's starting to become clear.
Rain is on this song Soundslike a Mr Santa Rainy Night.
(15:18):
So this is called Bell's Ring,okay.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Alright.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Alright, we're getting somewhere.
I'm digging the lyrics.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Hold me down by the water.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, now it's getting dark.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I hope this is part of the embellishment, Trying to
get your bell rung, Hold held,dive down by the water.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I can't believe it.
Look out to see the witness inthe sky.
Nobody's out to write a story.
Nobody wants to know yourreason why.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
They walked on down the hall.
Your arms are torn in one handBriefcase to.
Mary Look on.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Let God be free.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Let God be free but only if you believe I don't even
know what she's saying half thetime.
Well, I mean, yeah, we havethis.
It's kind of mumbly.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, I mean, I think this is good, like you're
really wasted or something.
You just had a bad night.
Yeah, you just broke.
I think this is good, likeyou're really wasted or
something.
You just had a bad night.
Yeah, you just broke up withyour boyfriend, or whatever.
It's like one in the morningyou plop down to your bed and
you're all tired.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
The room is kind of spinning and you're sort of
listening to this Nude music.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, are you having thoughts, man?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I mean it's angsty, it's angsty.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I kind of like how they're changing this up a
little bit.
It's just unfolding too slowfor me.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
On this listen he's letting the guitar shred a
little bit.
Yeah, work, it work itbabyourines going yeah.
(19:22):
Yeah, Hope is doing all that,you going to do something about
your sideburns?
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
All right.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
So, that was Bell's.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Ring okay.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
This is Berry of silence.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Briefcase to Mary.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Briefcase to Mary.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Swanson it walked on down the hall.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah, it does.
It has that.
This is the end beginning.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
This one's definitely going to be a greatest nonhead
right here.
I just this one might be upthere with some of our best deep
dives.
This one, I think so yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, this is some of our best deep dives, this one,
I think so, yeah, yeah, this isgood.
I'm on your side, you in myheart, with a smile.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Oh, sweet Mary, Come inside for a while.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
You're telling me there's a chance.
Help me get a hold of you.
Oh, I look in the night.
This is a song that's like inbetween.
Very erotic and like psycho,like crazy.
(20:54):
We're sort of in that.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I'm starting to get scared a little bit.
This is kind of like BrianJonestown Massacre a little bit.
That was what they're.
We haven't done that one.
We'll do that one soon, weshould.
I'll do that.
Brian's Jonetown Massacre andthe Dandy Warhols Two great
(21:20):
names for bands.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Brian's Jotetown Massacre is awesome.
I'm now angry that I never, wasin a band with that.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Briefcase to Mary.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Briefcase to Mary.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Briefcase to Mary.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yeah, we're in the dark with that man and it came
to a door Look.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Mary, it's nice to hold faith Fade into Mary of
silence.
Look Mary.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Look, Mary.
I know this may seem a little,but I've given it a lot of
thought.
You're the woman I've beenwaiting for my whole life.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I like it.
It's good.
I'm desperate, I know.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I just and I'm not ashamed to admit it, it's good,
desperate, I know, I just andI'm not ashamed to admit it.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Please Let me finish.
You're telling me there's achance.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Sounds like.
Is she like in a Starbuckswriting right miss, like what's
the deal?
She's like overhearing aconversation and then she wrote
a song around this, I think look, mary.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Briefcase to Mary.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
What about Kendra Smith?
Because this is.
She was in the Jesus and Marychain.
I wonder if there's any thoughtbehind Sweet Mary's Son.
Yes, some crossover, oh nice.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Whoa, I love this, yeah, this.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Work it.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Work it, work it, baby, work it, work it, baby,
work it, work it, own it.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yes, you can handle this.
First is here someone Once moreinto the breach.
Dear friends, Listen to thatsustain.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
This is epic.
Fuck, yeah, this is yeah.
This is An area of silence.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I am, I am aroused.
What the hell man, what's goingon?
Oh, I just got to hear that onemore time.
What the hell man, what's goingon?
Oh, I just got to hear that onemore time.
All right we'll skip ahead alittle bit.
It just goes on sweet mirrorsilence.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Are you mental Light of my life?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
That's baby making, isn't it?
That's what that is.
Yes, that's baby making.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
That's what that is.
Yes, there is nothing more tobe added to it.
Alright, nah, we're justgetting, we're getting weird,
we're getting stupid shout outto Foghorn Leghorn.
Shout out to theoghorn Leghorn.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Shout out to the tea drinkers, the runners, the
walkers, the mutes.
Yeah, oh yeah.
You don't need to say anythingto be cool.
Yeah, we love the mutes.
You don't need to say anythingto be cool, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Whoa.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Oh, that you're now can be what I consider the past,
okay.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
This one is Five String Serenade.
Is this going to be a hit?
I don't know, because it wasreleased as a single, but it
sounds kind of vaguely familiar,I think.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I've heard this before, I've never heard it, but
oh, besides Once before this.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
But this is my five-string serenade Beneath the
water of play, and while I'mplaying for you, it could be
raining that year trying tofigure out what, what this
(27:12):
five-string serenade?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
is this just like a face value of a chord, or is it
something more like subtle?
Yeah, five fingers, yeah,serenade it's five fingers,
something, no, something likethat.
(27:33):
Maybe that's code for that shewas in a diner.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Somebody was talking about that.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
She wrote it down exactly, so you know, I'm doing
the five fingers serenade, right?
Yes, miss.
Can I have another iced teaplease?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
yeah, so you know that kind of thing, your
serenade right?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yes, miss can I have another iced tea please?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, so you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah, so she listens to that, goes back home and then
that's how we came back.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
It is very beautiful.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Just take it easy, champ.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Okay, maybe I need to sit.
The next couple plays out.
Let Tim take over for you.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Not great kisser, but she had the biggest Adam's
apple.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
This is touching.
It's beautiful, it's verytouching.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Sorry, we're ruining it everybody.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Happy ring that he.
It's very touching.
Sorry we're ruining iteverybody.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
William Cooper on the strings, man, you're really.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Coopy.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Cooper-loop.
Shout out to the Coopers outthere In occupation and in
surname.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Shout out to the Coopers out there In occupation
and, in surname, shout out tothe window, guys, the door guys.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
The roofers, ah, the doormen.
I love the doormen.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
The doorman, yeah, doorman.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, and shout out to the dormants and the doorman
yeah, and the Dormen, you'rechecking the shit out of those
IDs.
Check it.
Yep.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Check it.
Are you going to find lovetonight?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Yeah, it can't be that hard.
I mean, you've been in lovebefore.
Well, just once With you.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Joey E she doesn't like you Awkward.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Tip to those doormen out there.
Florida has a distinct.
It might be raining that year.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Tip to those doormen out there.
Florida has a distinctwatermark, you know, can't miss
it.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Is it rain?
This is my five-string sermon.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Aw, I'm all for clapped.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Oh wait, just a minute.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
All right, this one is called Blue Light.
It's kind of a country western.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, a little bit.
It's got that feel to it, alittle bit of Chris Isaac going
on here.
Oh yeah, shout out Wicked Game.
Yes, this whole album is WickedGame.
Okay, this whole album is likeWicked Game.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
It really is.
This is good yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
There's a blue light in my restaurant room.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
There's a blue light.
He's got big eyes, big eyes.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
It's freaky.
There's a blue light, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
I wanna see it Shine.
You're my boy Blue.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
There you go.
You're my boy, light of my life.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Sails by my window.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Old wooden ship.
Thank you, ron Burgundy.
Were you around when Kmart waspopular?
Yeah, remember that 87 BlueLight special.
That's what I think about BlueLight special.
I just can't get past the bluelight.
(32:33):
It's not their fault, it's mine, but I mean, if there's a not,
this is a beautiful song, justgot an awesome voice.
It's all throaty and breathyand hot, super hot super old
wooden ship.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Super hot, super hot.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Old wooden ship.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
You know who really loves this album.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Surfers Say bye.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Anybody else who does like, like Bengals fans maybe,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Hotel owners, hotel innkeepers.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Light of my life.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Jack Torrance's.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Oh God, Let me say something.
Let me say something.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
What it's kind of like funeral music.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
It's like that little organ in the background.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, the organ's very good.
I'm digging that this could beup there, my top three.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Really.
Oh okay, there's still somegood songs ahead too.
We've heard A couple of othersthat were the waves are beating
her.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
She's getting beat down by the waves.
I think I hear them Wavescrashing me back.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Well, I'll tell you still.
I did battle some humongouswaves.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Crash my wheel bye.
Hope you have a cool buzz outthere.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
All I need are some tasty waves and some cool buds.
I'm fine, this must be.
That's baby making music.
That's what that is.
Yeah, that's Roback.
(35:26):
He's playing.
He's a good guitar player.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I mean, yeah, he's a sensitive Minimal, yeah,
minimalist, minimalist, which isyeah for a minimalist it's,
it's good notes.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
He's filling the space with that's.
That's the thing is.
This is the simplicity of allthis yeah so this is a less is
more, yeah example of somebodydoing it right.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Oh, is this the out?
Speaker 3 (35:51):
So this is called she's my Baby Mom.
Mom, this is Zeppelin-y MamaMom.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Mommy, mommy.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Dear Lord, baby Jesus .
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I'm hearing like smashing pumpkins in this a
little bit.
Ron Weier, baby Jesus.
I'm hearing like SmashingPumpkins in this a little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Ron Weyer Stomp Led Zeppelin yeah that.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yes, work it, ron, you're a stomp.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
She's my baby.
She belongs to me, butyesterday she walked home on the
road.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Sting goes out there.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Everybody else looks at my baby them.
They want to know where I'm atthe baby's feeling bad.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Roback's a really impressive guy because he's
producing these tunes.
Yeah, he's a good use of timeand space and the reverb and the
echo.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Time is timeless.
This is a timeless.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I think I saw my baby .
Speaker 1 (37:34):
That's right, that's right.
See you Yesterday, another day.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Another day, baby.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Saw your baby walking Homeward.
Baby baby, Baby, baby.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Baby, baby, Baby baby .
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Baby baby, baby, baby .
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I'm feeling sorry, Maybe baby.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
What?
What is she saying?
All right, this one'sskyrocketing at the top.
Oh my God, the discordance ofthe solo is.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah, this one is very spiritual, Easy baby.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
You don't want to get hooked on this stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Yeah, thanks for cutting man.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
This is starting to get too heavy for me.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Oh, never, never, let's go home.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Once more into the beach.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
It's another.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yeah they're mixing the doors with Zeppelin, with
(39:49):
Zaplin.
There is nothing more to beadded to it.
Yeah, there's a row back withthe guitar.
That was all Tim, with thesound clips.
Shout out to Tim, mentioningthat mostly because I don't want
to take credit for it.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
No.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
I'm just teasing.
No, you did a good job, thatwas good.
It's a good song too.
That was pretty heavy.
That's right.
This one's called Unreflected.
This is like a different moodnow More.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Raga, the sun's coming up.
This is earthy.
The vegetables are sprouting,yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
The hippies are dancing.
This is somewhere betweenhippie and yacht rock, or
something I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
They're dancing the compost into the ground.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah, and they're like harvesting maize, maizey,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Mazzy, mazzy.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
You can say Mazzy, mazzy.
It just doesn't seem likeanybody cares.
Shimano, yeah, shimano, shimano, they said they called it Mazzy
stuff.
We can say Mazzy, then what thefuck?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Once it's last fortune is in the soul, the
unreflected feeling of the shoreand fine snow, oh no, a laugh
that cuts through An hour's inthe past.
(41:42):
Now, this is deep In ourmemories.
We don't have much to say.
We don't have much to say.
We don't have much to say wedon't have much Follow anybody.
(42:14):
Is that what you do?
Maybe it's the transplants,maybe transplants, maybe
transplants, maybe transplants,maybe transplants, maybe
transplants, maybe transplants,maybe transplants, maybe
transplants, maybe transplants,maybe transplants, maybe
transplants, maybe transplants,maybe transplants, maybe
transplants.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Maybe transplants Maybe transplants.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Now we know what we'll be in the past.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
This is a coffee shop thing too, this one.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Another story?
Yeah, we need to Song facts.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Another life, that's left.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Another life that's left.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Another life Death's left, yeah people don't write
(43:36):
songs like this anymore.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
It's good.
I like the Maracas.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, that is good.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Slower pace, simpler song.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Yeah, yeah, really good.
So this next one is going to becalled Wasted.
It's going to be boozy.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
You can feel it.
I think Ron White likes thisone.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
I was drunk in a bar, they threw me into public.
I don't want to be drunk in abar.
They threw me into public.
I don't want to be drunk inpublic.
I want to be drunk in a goddamnbar, which is perfectly legal.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Arrest them.
After I stuck my hands intoyour ground and pulled out, I
guess she was linked at onepoint in time to William Reed,
the guitarist of Jesus and MaryChain, and he later told
(45:06):
Goldmine I was in love with hope, but it was the unhappiest time
of my life.
Yeah, I can see that I feltlike I've been Wasted all day
long.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
All day long.
Come on over here.
Let's have a look at you AfterI've bent my head.
Is this a boy?
Speaker 1 (45:39):
To my knees and raised my hands up right above
my head.
I felt a little bit up, alittle bit right.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
This is a song that's probably good listening.
When you're laying around kindof wasted.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, it's a good cleaning song, it's a good
running song.
Say away.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Darling, light, light light.
I'm not going to hurt you.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
You didn't let me finish my sentence.
Oh, you can't play the wholething, okay, oh.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, got to get out of the house.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Weight lifting song Could be all those things.
I guess it's not as rigid aschest beating.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
It's really wasted At your house by yourself.
Rock and roll, yeah, walk ondown the hall.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
I've fallen and I can't get up A little play flirt
, yeah, shout out.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Shout out to Nana.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
A little light stone.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Stay away Jamming into life All the day long.
All day long, we're alwayswasting on something.
(47:50):
Yeah, Even if we're not druggedper se or drugging and
poisoning ourselves yeah exactly.
We're still wasted on ourshitty job.
I know I'm telling youChemicals in the air, chemicals
in the water.
We're wasted on that.
But, you know you've got to beresilient and we're going to get
(48:14):
through this.
Get some cilantro in your assNot in your ass, but don't do a
cilantro anime.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
I know what you mean.
The cilantro is a nice freshherb that nourishes your body
and provides unwasted to you.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yeah, unwastifies you .
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Yeah, exactly, it detoxes you Heavy metals, it
brings life into your body.
It is life itself and it'sgoing into you and it's
contributing to the microbiomeOf your insides.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Ginger, ginger, turmeric.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
Turmeric yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Of course, sesame seeds are good for you.
Yeah, freaking walnuts.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Brazil nuts have plenty of selenium, I think I
prefer Argentine, nuts,argentine, okay yeah.
Uruguayan what.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Peruvian nuts.
Uruguayan nuts.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah, that's what she said.
No, I'm not kidding, you're agay nut.
Yeah, shout out to the gay nutsout there.
Speaker 4 (49:20):
Jam it in the light.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Okay, wasted Rock and roll.
All right, I have.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
Into Dust.
Yeah, this sounds likeFleetwood Mac.
This is a good song.
Yeah, this sounds likeFleetwood Mac.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
This is a good song.
Yeah, you can't really dust forvomit.
Oh, there's a flute in here.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
Yeah, a koopa loop on the strings.
Yeah, that sounds exactly like.
Yeah, I'm talking aboutFleetwood Mac.
(50:14):
What's I'm blanking now?
I'm sorry, what's her name fromFleetwood Mac?
Stevie Nicks?
Speaker 1 (50:21):
yeah, inside today beside me, beside me today,
(50:46):
around, broken and torn, roundand round, deeper and deeper,
till your eyes Share Into Dark.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Like two Strangers Turning Into.
I am not An angel dust dealer.
Is this like a drug song, angeldust or something like that?
No, I am not an angel dustdealer.
Yeah like that.
They don't do that, I mean atthis time.
Angel dust was like out of the.
(51:27):
I guess it was like out ofcirculation.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
You want to take your brain out of your head and wash
it and scrub it and make itclean.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
I think we both need to sit.
The next couple plays out.
No, no, keep, keep playing.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
I could possibly be fading or have something more to
gain.
This is gonna be cold.
Speaker 4 (52:31):
No, you're fast.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Your face.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
It's like another Mr Han Hands, and feet, yeah, the
hands.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
This is Should be a modern day classic, honestly, I
know.
Yeah, it's up there.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
It was you, breathless and torn.
I could feel my eyes turninginto dust and two strangers
(53:33):
Turning into dust, turning intodust All right.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
shout out to Mazzy Star.
What a classic album.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
I'm thinking I'm lining up my top three Just sit
in the recording studio and comeup with this stuff like
instantly.
It's so wild.
Yeah, it's just like a reallygood partnership between her
lyrics and his song crafting,and out of all the band
(54:37):
combinations of Hope and David,this one was the big winner out
of all of them, you know.
Speaker 3 (54:47):
And to think are they still touring?
I don't know, I don't know,it's very nice.
We got like one more left, Ithink.
I don't know, I'll go follow,I'll see.
This is good.
All right, it's very nice.
We got like one more left Ithink that was Into Dust and
then this last one, so Tonightthat I Might See this, is it?
Speaker 4 (55:13):
Oh yeah, it is.
That's kind of good.
Speaker 3 (55:23):
Sort of like Middle Eastern kind of a thing.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
This does sound a lot like Brian's Jonestown Massacre
.
Okay, you gotta listen.
Yeah, sound a lot like brian'sjones town jones town massacre.
Okay, you gotta listen, yeah.
Oh, I hear some tasty waves,cool buzz and I'm fine yeah,
(55:51):
shout out to Spicoli.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
She's right-sided.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
She's walking down the hall on this one, yeah well,
it's a narration Kind of like.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
This is the end, yeah .
Speaker 3 (56:20):
Totally borrowing from the Doors, but it's still
their own.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
But I think they do it better than the.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
Doors.
I'm serious, I think they do itbetter than the Dwarves.
Speaker 4 (56:38):
I'm serious, I'm not going to give you a ride.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
I'm going to show you a ride.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Taste the wind.
Speaker 3 (56:54):
Lock me Taste the wind.
Speaker 4 (56:56):
A taste of wind.
Speaker 3 (57:04):
The wind.
Who lock me?
Does the wind indeed like me?
Speaker 1 (57:25):
It's kind of clever.
If you look, I find the dark.
Stop me now, I find me too hard.
Let me hold you tight like rainsunshine over in the day.
Rain sunshine.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
Let me hold you tight like rain and sunshine over in
the day.
Rain sunshine.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Let me hold you tight and have you stand along.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
Arms and legs.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
I'm so close that I might see you crash.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
The guitar yeah.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
You're talking about the up and down, yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
It's like a siren call.
She is like a siren, a modernday siren, like tempting boats
to a rocky grave.
(58:25):
David's guitar summons Poseidon.
Speaker 1 (58:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:39):
Yeah, that guitar is just screaming in the background
.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
There's like so many different layers going on.
I don't really know what tofocus on.
I'm so tired.
Speaker 3 (59:33):
You're not alone who got the lighter.
Speaker 4 (59:35):
Wow man this is really good.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
This is really good.
Work it, work it, baby.
Speaker 3 (59:48):
Work it All go back, like all the guitar workups.
Speaker 2 (59:55):
I don't know song she plays in town, maybe in Houston
she plays a rhythm.
Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Yeah, that first album was she Hates Bright,
bright.
I just think a lot of thesesongs could have been hits.
It's too bad.
There was like one that justhit super big.
(01:00:48):
It's a really great song.
I don't think it's in the topthree.
Fade into you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Would Fade Into you be in your top three if it
weren't in there?
I don't think so, no.
Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
I can name three songs that I like better than
that.
Oh for sure.
I mean, I could probably golike five or six.
Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Give it some air.
Yeah, this is great, play withit.
You know, yeah, it's, yeah,it'll end.
Play with it.
You know, yeah, it's uh, yeah,it'll, it'll end yeah in time.
Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
It's just like yeah, this is this is there, this is
the end, but I guess we canargue about that.
Yeah, this is there, this isthe end, but I guess we can
argue about that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I haven't done it earlier.
Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
All right, yeah, mary of Silence could probably be.
Yeah, that's probably good.
This is the end, but that'slike a part deux.
It's midnight.
Okay, nice little add in there.
Okay, man.
So what are you thinking?
We got to go right into the topthree.
Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Oh, man, man, oh man.
I think this is hard becausethe way that song ended.
Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
I want that almost in my top three.
Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
I know, I mean we could have a top five here and I
think if my top five I'm justgoing to do five she's my baby.
Uh, and then four is wasted.
I really like those songs, Wow.
Okay, but three.
Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
I'm going to say into the dust, into dust.
Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Yes, that was a really touching song that
deserves a lot of listen.
Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Yeah, that could have been on rumors, you know, yeah,
yeah, I really like yourcomparison there.
That was good.
Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Yeah, it was yeah A modern day like reserve nineties
, fleetwood Mac, ish kind of.
Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Right, yeah, what about you?
Um, I'm going to go with fivestring.
Ser Fleetwood Mac-ish kind ofRight, yeah, what about you?
I'm going to go with FiveStrings.
Serenade is my number three.
Okay, it was very I like thestrings on it and it was kind of
it was very touching and it wasvery beautiful, and so I think
it was and it was just like theright length, you know.
Okay, so it's my number three.
All right, I think it was, uh,and it was just like the right
(01:03:53):
length, you know so okay.
It was my number three.
Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
All right, my number two has to be so to night that I
might, might see.
Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Wow Okay, good for you.
Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
I mean it's gotta be on there.
Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
It was strong, it was it was a strong, it was tough
last track.
Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
I really like the rambling of it, sort of the like
non-structure.
Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
It was really good.
It was chaos.
There was a lot of chaos.
Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
There was a lot of disorders yeah, the noodling,
the harsh, the harsh noodling,with her uh soothing voice, it
kind of like equaled it out,yeah, yeah, in a way which is of
course I think, like at anygiven night, that that's a kind
of a song, I mean spoiler.
Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
it's not going to be in my top three, but so tonight
that I might see was sort of um,it could be at any given night.
I could put that as my numberone.
Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Yeah, fair.
Yeah put that as my number one.
Yeah, fair, yeah, but uh, itjust tonight it just didn't hit
with me, you know, but nottonight.
So tonight, yeah, not tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
But you know, if I give it another list, I could
totally see me like oh yeah, Icompletely missed that.
My number two is going to beinto dust.
Like you like, um, the samereasons that you liked it.
Um, it was just so.
It was crafted really well andit was simple.
I like the really simple songson here.
A lot of these chaotic ones areawesome too, but more strings,
(01:05:21):
yeah, yeah, and so it hit withme.
That's my number two.
Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Okay, yeah, I think when I heard it.
Number three Mary of Silence ismy number one.
Yes, because it really isDoors-esque, like Hope.
Sandoval is potentially the JimMorrison female version of Jim
(01:05:46):
Morrison from the 90s Of course.
And Ray Manzarek versus DavidRoback.
Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
I mean, I don't know, you got oh you're just sort of
they even have, you know, theykind of have the same
disposition.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Yeah, hope's good looking.
Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
You know Jim's good looking Like charismatic yeah,
in a, in a.
You know like a like a sensualway, yeah, and then Ray Mancero
cause, like the nerd in thebackground, and so there's row
back and there.
Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
but they're, they take you off the cliff with
these emotional uh numbers thatthey have here.
Yeah, exactly, yeah, that's mynumber one as well.
Really.
Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Mary silence is, okay , yeah, the clear cut winner in
this one.
Yeah, yeah, for the reasons youmentioned.
Yeah, yeah, it reminded me ofthis Is the End.
I thought it may even be betterthan this Is the End.
Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
That was a good pick too.
Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Yeah, I liked how that they borrowed from it.
That was the brilliance of it.
They borrowed from it, theymade it better and in a way
that's fresh.
Yeah Versus hearing.
This is the end it's beenoverplayed.
Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Honorable mention to Bell's Ring and Unreflected
those are great songs.
For me, she's my Baby, andWasted could be in my top three
on any other given time I listento it yeah, I liked all of them
, of course, man.
Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Yeah, that was the thing Fade Into.
Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
You isn't even on our favorites for this.
Yeah, I liked all of them, ofcourse, man.
Yeah, that was the thing FadeInto.
You isn't even on our favoritesfor this.
Yeah, no and that's a greatsong as well, and it's
interesting that they startedthe album with that.
Yeah, Because it's so soft Forme.
My style probably would be likeyou get the people moving first
(01:07:34):
before you bring them down fair, but they went right for fade
into you and then kind of buildit up a little bit.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
They've got that Mary a silence like the third song.
I liked it.
I liked the way they threw itOkay yeah.
It was good.
Five string serenade it's agreat song and I it's a great
song and it was right afterwardsand and strong too, you know.
So, yeah, good, good stuff andit was a play.
This is probably my my surprisefavorite of the year.
Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Wow Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
You know, I think it might be, you know, wow, okay.
Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
Yeah, it was, just it was.
Yeah, it's up there.
Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Surprisingly, not you know, maybe I'm just, you know,
in the mood, but this is.
Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
I was really happy to discover this and thanks for
listening with us and thank youall right, take care.
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