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September 24, 2025 62 mins

There's something uniquely captivating about the way Modest Mouse balances hope and despair. On their breakthrough 2004 album "Good News for People Who Love Bad News," the Seattle-based band created a remarkable collection that propelled them from indie darlings to mainstream success without sacrificing their distinctive sound.

Lead singer Isaac Brock's vocals—alternating between Harry Carey-esque drawls and Bobcat Goldthwait-style frantic outbursts—provide the perfect vehicle for lyrics that explore life's darkness while occasionally surfacing for gulps of optimistic air. The hit single "Float On" might have been what introduced many listeners to the band, but diving deeper into the album reveals a treasure trove of equally compelling tracks.

Water imagery flows throughout the record, from "Ocean Breathes Salty" to the recurring theme of floating versus sinking. These aquatic metaphors perfectly capture the album's central tension: how do we stay afloat when life threatens to pull us under? Songs like "The View" surprise with disco-influenced rhythms, while "Bukowski" embraces a nihilistic perspective with surprisingly catchy instrumentation including banjo and horns.

What makes this album endure nearly two decades later is its unflinching honesty about life's challenges coupled with moments of unexpected beauty. The delicate string arrangements on "Blame It on the Tetons" provide a stunning counterpoint to the raw energy of tracks like "Bury Me With It." It's this willingness to explore contrasts—between hope and despair, between punk roots and pop sensibilities—that makes the album such a compelling listen from start to finish.

Have you revisited this album lately? We'd love to hear which non-hit tracks resonated with you most. Sometimes the songs that didn't make radio playlists contain the most profound truths about staying afloat when bad news threatens to drag us down.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Harry Carey here from the afterlife.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
All right, thank you for listening to the Greatest
Non-Hits.
I'm Chris and playing Float Onfrom the album Good News for
People who Love Bad News is myco-host Tim.
From the album Good News forPeople who Love Bad News is my
co-host Tim.
This is the band Modest Mousefrom that album.
It came out in 2004, and it'sreally what propelled them to

(00:37):
fame later on.
One interesting thing about thisalbum regards the drummer,
jeremiah Green, founding membermember.
However, this is the only albumthat he's never drummed on.
I guess there was somethinggoing on and I read about it
earlier and I've completelyforgotten.
We'll probably get back to thatlater.
There was some, maybe even some, drama involved in that, but

(01:01):
anyway, uh, great album, good,look good drummer, as Nigel
Tufnell would say.
Anyway, the first three songsare hits.
There's a song Float On thatTim is playing.
It was their big one.
There's another one OceanBreathes, salty and the World at

(01:23):
Large.
All three of those werereleased as singles, so the
band's early days, I think, wereback in 1992 to 1999.
They kind of start off as likea kind of a punk band and
probably inspired my nirvana.
They're a seattle by and large,a seattle bass band.

(01:45):
Issaquah, washington, I thinkis what it's.
Yeah, issaquah washington.
Now they're based in portland.
Uh, the founding members wereisaac brock and that kind of
explains like the, uh, the harrycarey, uh a lot of things
happened and, uh, isaac Brock,the lead singer.

(02:08):
from my point of view kind ofsounds a little bit of a cross
between Harry Carey and, I'd say, bobcat Goldthwait.
Got it screams, what about my?

Speaker 5 (02:20):
wife.
My wife is so fat.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Okay, thank you, bobcat, but anyway, the guy's
voice is a little bit out thereand the band is out there, but
he sings in a charming way and Iget it and it's good stuff.
So it's going to be a greatalbum, a great show.
We've got great clips.

(02:44):
They're funny.
We's going to be a great album,a great show.
We've got great clips, they'refunny.
We're going to have a blast.
Tim's excited.
He loves this band.
The members, current membersIsaac Brock, tom Peloso, russell
Higby, ben Massarella, simonO'Connor, damon Cox.
On the album the personnel wasIsaac Brock, eric Judy on bass

(03:12):
guitar, dan Gallucci, who wasalso a guitar player, benjamin
Weichel was on drums he's theguy who replaced the original
guy and Tom Peloso stand-up bass.
So it's like these names.

(03:32):
They sound like my fantasyfootball team a little bit.
You know that was anotherobservation that I had when I
was just kind of looking throughall this.
But yeah, they're growing on me.
It wasn't my you they're theywere.
They weren't always my go-to,so to speak, but uh, not bad,
this is the first album was kindof poppy, you know.

(03:53):
They're back in their day.
They were a little more altrock, you know, went into some
other things, punk, you know, inthat seattle vein back in the
day, this is 2004.
They've made it big now.
It's a good album too.

(04:13):
I dug it Like we always do.
We're going to list all thesongs and then give you the
ranking of our top threenon-hits at the very end.
I have a couple that I'mleaning towards.
Right now I won't say, but youknow who the winners and losers

(04:35):
are.
Now there's like 16 tracks alltogether, but I think three or
four of them at least are kindof fillers, even like under one
minute, and all the songs arejust kind of hit.
You know there's it's only 48minutes in length, 49 almost.
So like it's a lot of songs, butthey're all short.

(04:56):
So you know, we'll get throughit, it'll be, it'll be good
they're, they're fun, fun thingshere.
So, oh, that was nice, it was anice way to wrap it up there.
Um, what else can I say aboutthis?
Um, it's kind of dark, it'skind of sullen a little bit.

(05:19):
You know, melancholy is isthrown around, and I, I can see
that like if you're kind of in abad mood, or if you're in a bad
mood right now, just uh, we'llhave fun, we'll uh, we'll make
it light, you know, but it is.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
It is for the, you know, you know and I got to tell
you folks, being dead isfantastic.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
No, that's the wrong message.
We're trying to say theopposite.
So anyway, with that in mind,let's turn it over to Tim.
Tim, how you doing bud?
Oh, we're doing good.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
We're doing good here .
Good, yes, this is a littlehope versus despair, despair
versus hope.
That's right.
You know, I don't know it's,it's a lot of things.
And you're spot on with the uh,the harry carrey and the bobcat
.
That's, that's good all right,all right, all right, it's yeah,

(06:18):
this band is their trajectorymaybe started out punk, but it's
pop punk they're.
They're pushing the envelope to, to palatability of punk, you
know, and there's so many things.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, maybe they're evolving at this point in time
and they're learning thebusiness part of it and they're
learning just how to blenddifferent genres and that part
of it, and they're learning justhow to blend different genres.
And that that seems to be a bigtheme in this decade is these
bands that are trying not toreinvent music but to maybe take
in good elements of a lot ofdifferent styles of music, and

(07:00):
this band does it in a veryclever way.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
They really do, and they do a lot of tweaking of the
studio stuff.
They add a little bit ofexpertise, I would say, on the
soundboard, yeah, yeah,subtleties.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, it is.
I was going to say that I thinkit was produced really well.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
Shout out to there's that producer, saw that guy yeah
, they had glockenspiels, theyhad horns.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
There's hot horns everywhere on this thing.
You know it was recorded onapril 6th at sweet tea studio in
oxford, mississippi.
Shout out to old miss.
So yeah, they're alt rock,indie rock, indie pop, all that
stuff.
Oh, producer dennis herring.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
Shout out to dennis herring yeah, dennis did a good
job you did, but uh, yeah, weshould let's.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Let's get into the album like before we do.
You want to do any shout outsor you want to?

Speaker 6 (08:01):
oh, you know, let's see we got.
You have a friend jay.
We have a friend jay the uhfrom blue hair and coffee, st
michael's big, uh, big, modestmouse fan.
Talked, talked about that for agood while, while the old
school roasts his beans.

(08:22):
Uh, the good, old fashioned wayand really cool spot.
I've heard that St Michael'sgreat coffee.
Right on Shout out.
Maybe we'll get back in touch.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
St Michael's Isn't that where they filmed Wedding
Crashers?
Or it sort of takes place atthat.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
Wedding Crashers.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, the movie Maybe I think it was Okay Like that
where they meet their eventual.
I don't want to spoil it.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
but yeah, oh, I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, well, anyway, yeah, this a lot of the movie
takes place there, but anyway,we digress.
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
When they're doing the football and the tackling.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, okay, yeah, all that.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
That's yeah.
Anyway shout out to floating.
Shout out to the hydrated andthe dehydrated out there.
Okay, um, you know you'rebuoyant rolling on the river.

Speaker 7 (09:10):
That's where she'd be Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, there's a lot of water references in this
album too, isn't there?
Isn't?
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
It is the hope and despair, you know.
Keep that in mind and keep inmind that all that shit is
fucking bullshit okay, we'll getinto it.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
That's.
I think it's a good intro, allright, all right.
This one track, number one,horn intro.
It's just like nine secondshere and spoiler alert this is
not going to be in my top three,okay, okay, now this is the
world at large.

(09:47):
This is a hit.
Second most downloaded song.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Let's see.
I mean, walked away to anotherplant.
I'm going to find another place, maybe one I can stand.
I move on to another day, to awhole new town with a whole new
way.
Went to the porch to have athought, got to the door and
again I couldn't stop.

(10:20):
You don't know when, you don'tknow when, but you still got
your words and you've got yourfriends Walking on to another
day.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Shout out to the walkers.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Oh no, shout out to Spokove.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Old wooden ship.
So well, I float on.
Maybe Would you understand,okay.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
It's a metaphor for something.
It's just like a love song,okay.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
David spell the blood as it is, I like songs about
drifters books about the same.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
This is about Catcher in the Rye a little bit.
Yeah, I was just thinking.
Rolling on the river, I alwaysfeel like I'm caught in an
undertow.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Rollin' on the river Well.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I just got back from swimming in the pool.
Moms beat themselves to deathagainst the lights, adding their

(12:17):
brains to the summer nightsyeah, this is so like they loop
a lot of sounds in thebackground.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, I was thinking more like about the mood of it.
A lot of it is about like loss.
Feeling small.

Speaker 7 (12:45):
Yeah, my feelings are hurt.
Yeah, my feelings are hurt.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Perfect.

Speaker 7 (12:58):
And I'll bring all my shoes and my glasses with me.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
That was beautiful that Saul Rosenberg over the
strings.
It was a nice little touch.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
All that shit was fucking bullshit.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
It's very like staccato.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
It's very like staccato.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
There's not much drums going on, not yet Simple
lines here.
It starts to go to 11 a littlebit later.
Yeah, this is a more mellowsong.
All right, there we go.
Some scratching kind of goesdead.

(13:58):
Oh Goes down to one before itcomes back up.
Okay, now we're in.

(14:18):
Float On.
This is the Ghost Pipers songon the album.
We've all heard this, right, Ithink they're almost in tandem
these two songs.

Speaker 6 (14:26):
They're like a yeah, there's no break.
One is in relation to the other.
Oh, so it's a concept.
Well, they say float on in theprevious song.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
so yeah, it's just key.

(15:14):
Rock your Honor and we'll allfloat on a cave.
And the world was forged byTyson better man than Eero?
And we'll all float on a caveand we'll all float on.
Okay, and we'll all float onanyway.
Well, I think Jamaica tookevery last damn with that scam.
It was worth it, just to learnsome slide again.

(15:37):
Bad news come, don't you worry.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
The runway it lands.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Good news we'll work its way to all them plans.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
We both got fired on time, a lot of things happen.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Some good, some bad, oh yeah, all right.

Speaker 7 (16:17):
All right.

Speaker 6 (16:20):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 7 (16:24):
All right, all right, all right, all right, all right
, all right, all right.
Hamilton.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
Don't worry, we'll all float on.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Alright, alright.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
Alright, alright, and we'll all float on Alright,
alright, we'll all float onAlright, alright, take it back,
simone, or Dima Dima Dima, allright, all right, all right.

(17:16):
What?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
was that character's name, the guy from I don't know.
I mean Matthew Conaghy'scharacter.
I can't.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
Daisy, from Daisy.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
I gotta look that up.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
All right.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
All right, All right.
All right, all right.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
All right, what do we got here?
Ocean breathes salty, Okay, sothis is another hit, right yeah
we got a hit here.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
I like this one.
Salt, how you doing.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yes yes, all the oh no, salty, salty Salty.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Salty rosemary, oh no .
Well, that is that and this isthis.
You tell me what you want andI'll tell you what you get.
You get away from me, you getaway from me.
Cool, I get my balloons and Ilay off the chair.
Well, thanks for the time.
I need to think.
It's felt I had to think awhile, I had to think a while.

(18:43):
I've watered her down as far asshe'll go.
I cannot water no more.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
For some reason, this song sounds better now than it
normally does when I listen toit, since we're doing it live
Yep, probably.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I love that Mm-hmm On your head, mouth Soul.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Shout out to Dan Gallucci, I think the keyboards
that weird sound effect.
Really good keyboards.
Yeah, the Gallucci keys theGallucci keys.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
He's rolling, rolling Jail.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Shout out to Chris Milk, the director of the music
video, and say good luck foryour sake.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
I hope heaven and hell.
You missed.
I really did, but I wouldn'thold my breath.
You missed, you wasted life.

(20:15):
Why wouldn't you waste death?
You missed, you wasted life.
Why wouldn't you waste death?
Harry Carey, here from theafterlife.
Harry Carey, I carry here fromthe afterlife.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
It's like I said.
I gotta tell you folks IsaacBrock is an American musician,
songwriter lead vocalist he's inother bands Cy Pratchett, ugly,
casanova.
Okay, a lot of wordplay.

(20:59):
He's a lot of metaphors.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yes, great bass line yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
You know, he lived with his mother and sister In
Montana.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
In.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Oregon In hippie communes and churches, yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
And I gotta tell you folks being dead is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
We were shooting at a mountain of dirt.
Well, nothing was broken,nothing was hurt, but I probably
really should have been at work.
But if my free time's gone,would you promise me this that
you will pay, bury me with it.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, this is where the Bobcat Goldquake's really
coming out.
Yeah, this is where the BobcatGoldquake's really coming out.
Harry Caray too.
Hey.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I'm proud of it but it helped me out a bit.
I just don't need none of thatMad Max bullshit.
Well, the tube got tight andit's pointed to the seams, but I
can't get out of half of it.
I can't be real clean, but ifit's getting, Thank you very

(22:40):
much.
Fusion.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Scott Bale.
It's the Antichrist.
We're having a.

Speaker 7 (22:53):
Scott Bale.
This really bumps me up.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
This bumps me up.
That really bumps me up.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Wow, wow.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, we're going into a part of the song that I
overlooked and I'm liking this.
I'm liking this.
The wedding.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
This is catchy man.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I think the drumming's pretty good.
The fill in as you said thenews.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Ron, are you paying attention?
No, so what?
So let's dance.
Well, the fans they come andthe fans they go.
God, I love the rock and roll.
Well, the point was fast, butit was too blunt to miss.
Life handed us a paycheck.

(24:35):
We said we weren't taller thanthat.
Hey, eric, eric, eric.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
Three weeks we've been talking about the Platt
Amendment.
Oh shit now.

Speaker 7 (24:52):
What are you people On dope, on dope.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
I love that line.
I've got bad news.
You're going to fail, mr HansPlatt.
Yeah exactly, you're going tofail, mr Hands class.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, exactly One of these days we need to do the
soundtrack for some of thesemovies.
We'll do.
We can look at that in theworks.
Great music on Fast Times.
Watch the news.
All right, so that was Bury MeWith it.

(25:28):
Watch the news All right, sothat was Bury Me With it.
Watch the news.
This one's called Dancehall,dancehall On dope.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
On dope.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
So, what so, what so, what so, let's dance.

Speaker 6 (25:57):
So what?
So what?
Scott Baio, scott Baio, scottBaio dances.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yes, I'm sure he does Cha-cha Every day, though he
was his uncle at the Fonz,though he was in that dance
contest.

Speaker 6 (26:30):
Can I do a dance?
Dance One, two one, two, three.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
I'm dope these babies can go off.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
The past does not exist and I'm told it never will
.
All right, All right.
That's about the coolest thingI've heard all day.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
All right take it easy, Jim.
Why don't you stop talking fora while?

Speaker 6 (27:40):
Maybe, sit, the next couple plays out.
The news is just an abominationNowadays no news, it's good
news.

Speaker 7 (27:59):
Very good news, yes yes, all the whole.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Oh no, yes, the whole railway.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
And I was holding my cat, so what so?

Speaker 2 (28:24):
let's dance.
All right, you tell him Rodney.
All right, catchy tune.
This one's called bukowski apiece of excrement just what you
just said.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
That is beautiful a smudge of excrement surging out
to sea.
I I can never write that.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Neither could I actually.
I think it's Bukowski.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
To me that every night turns out to be a little
bit more like Bukowski.
And yeah, I know it's a prettygood read.
But God, who'd want to be Godwho'd want to be A little banjo
effect.
God who'd?
Want to be God.
Who'd want to be God would wantto be Such an asshole.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
That's pretty strong.

Speaker 6 (29:26):
It's angry at God.
Yes, that's what we're dealingwith here.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
If God takes life, he's an Indian giver.
So tell me now, or you'll tellme never, who would want to be,
who would want to be such acontrol freak.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
Nihilistic writing by Bukowski.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Who would be such a control freak?

Speaker 3 (30:21):
You're freaking me out.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Is there a recording in the background?
Should see it all.
Well, take what you want fromme.
You deserve it all.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
As a Brock lived in DC back in 1992.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
That's interesting.
Our hearts just get dissolved.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Then he moved to New York in East Village.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Or just a better way to fall.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
It was there that he, eric Judy and Jeremiah East
Village it was there that he,eric Judy and Jeremiah Green
first started practicing musictogether, okay.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
That's kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
These songs do have a lot of disease.
I keep some watch for all ofyou, if he's really so damn
religious my problem is I can'tsee what.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
who would want to be?
Who would want to be such acontrol freak?
Are you?
Some kind of freak.
Well, who would want to be?
Who would want to be such acontrol freak?

Speaker 7 (31:26):
What a freak.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
These guys are freaks man.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
You're freaking me out, evil me Good songs, do you?

Speaker 3 (31:46):
know Evil me.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Oh yeah, I know Satan .
What good curse can you throwWell on that ice and on that
cake.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
I can't make it to your wedding but I'm sure I'll
be there to get you awake.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
You were talking in circles that day.
When you get to the point, makesure that I'm still awake.

Speaker 7 (32:20):
How much more black could this be?
And the answer is none.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
None more black.
This is this is.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
This is good, this is really.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
I fucked up the last line.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Come on Sean.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
This devil's work.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Come on, swing baby, you platinum, I guess even the
devil submits his time cardsthrough workday.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
That's funny.
I could sell myself a job.
I could hang myself on treesand all the folks I know are
gone.
All the people that you know,all the people that you know,
all the people that you knowFloating in the river are logs.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
I don't know, I don't know about this one, but yeah,
I'm not a fan of the horn.
This one, it's got thatavant-garde, sort of like
Squirrel Nut Daddy's kind oftheme going on.

Speaker 7 (33:53):
Yeah, Like that 1920s yeah like the mob Rolling on
the river.
That's where she'd be.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
What.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
I'm going to take this sack of puppies.
Oh no, oh no, oh God.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
This song is offensive on like every sense.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
My feelings are hurt.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
I can actually taste it.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Do the dead bird?

Speaker 7 (34:54):
This is really bumming me up.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
This really bums me up.
Okay, I need to do this song.
Okay, well, bobcat, for goodmeasure, just extends the pain
we got some joy.
Okay, the view.
This is called the View.
Hello, joy Behar.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
I'll pull you.
Shut out your mouth and lookwhere it got you.
My mouth runs on two Shots fromboth sides.
Well, we've got the land, butthey've got the view.
Well, now, here they come.
We've got the land, but they'vegot the view.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
Well, now, here they come, They've got the view.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
I made out with Jane Fonda.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Who did you make out with?

Speaker 5 (35:38):
I made out with Jane Fonda.
That was really good.
You can't be the Prince ofSyria, I hope it won't play on
you.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Well, I hope mine did too.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
This one's got some sauce.
Well, I hope mine did too thisone's got some sauce.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Oh it does.
Yeah, oh, it's funky.
As life gets longer, I'llfulfill softer words.
Disco it's pretty soft andangry and if it takes shit to
make sense, then I feel prettyblissfully he called the shit

(36:19):
cool.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Never go out on the road again, go go.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Go go.
Shout out to both sides nowhere's the clue what a freak we
are fixed right where we standlife.
It rips us in.

(36:44):
Yeah, I hope it will play onyou.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
I hope my it's a natural palate cleanser from the
last song.
It's very yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:06):
The keys are really good.
It's a layered sound.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Calucci's holding it down.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
I never know what she's doing back there she's
making out with Jane Fonda.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
Yeah, I made out with Jane Fonda.
That was really good.

Speaker 7 (37:28):
I never know what she's doing back there what?

Speaker 5 (37:33):
is she doing?
I made out with Jane Fonda.
That was really good.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
You kissed Back there .
You look a little stressed.
Oh, I'm stressed.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
As life gets longer, awful feels softer and it feels
pretty soft to me.
And if it takes shit to makebliss, well I feel pretty
blissfully.
If life's not beautiful withoutthe pain, well, I just would
rather never, ever even seeBeauty again.
Well, as life gets longer, allI feel feels softer and it feels

(38:21):
pretty soft on me.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I'm like Reed left the band.
I'd say they've had a nervousbreakdown Around 2003,.
So they brought in BenjaminMichael.
I guess he was like leaving towork with his side project Bells
Bells.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
Yeah, b-e-l-l-s Okay.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Same year he and Judy appeared on Adam Corker's first
solo album.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
It's like B-E-R-S-S-N-N.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
That's all.

Speaker 7 (39:07):
It's just key rock.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Your Honor and yes, I'm ready.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Great sense.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
You let one ant stand up to us.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
It's called.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Satin in a Coffin.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
You were laying on the carpet like you're satin in
a coffin.
You said do you believe?
Like you're sat in a coffin?
You said you believe whatyou're saying?
Yeah, right now, but not thatoften.
Are you dead or are yousleeping?
Are you dead or are yousleeping?
Are you dead or are yousleeping?

Speaker 4 (39:42):
God, I sure hope you are dead.
I'm on no sleep, no sleep.
You don't know what it's likein there All night long.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Things are creaking and cracking and that red light
is burning my brain.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
Shout out to my cocoa .

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Oh, cocoa beans from the upper slopes of Mount
Nicaragua.
Come on, sharon, now the bluesbeen softened since the air, the
breeze, our coffin.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Well, Now the blues been softened since the air.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
She's nominated for a Grammy for Best Alternative
Music Album Times.
You know, I left you Flood.
I was nominated for Best RockSong.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
After you know, the blues been softened Since the
air is our coffin.
Well, Now the blues beensoftened since the air.
Michael returned to drummingexclusively for the Delia

(41:04):
sequence.
You said do you believe whatyou're saying?
Yeah, right now, but not thatoften.
Are you dead or are yousleeping?
Are you dead or are yousleeping?
Are you dead?

Speaker 3 (41:16):
or are you sleeping?
You're freaking me out.
Can I show you I'm dead.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
I guess I and Brock.
Yeah, he lost a couple offriends he says lost a couple of
most important people beforethis album came out and sort of
explains all the doom and gloomright, probably not sleeping

(41:46):
well.
I'm on no sleep, it's calledProbably not sleeping well, I'm
on no sleep.
It's called interlude me-lo,hi-lo.
It's like 58 seconds, so I cutpast it.
Well let's uh.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
Phoebe.
What does Phoebe have to say?

Speaker 5 (42:07):
Anyhow, if you think that I'm going to sit around and
wait for you, you can forget it.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Okay, that's a yes.
Okay, it's fine.
All right, this is on.
Blame it On the Tetons.
What's this about?

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Blame it on the Tetons.
Yeah, I need a skid coat now.
No, my dog won't bite you,though it had the right to.
Yeah, I wouldn't give hercredit cause she knows I would

(42:47):
have let it happen.
I'm prairie dogging it.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
Shout out to those halfway through digestion
Halfway, okay, it's good stuff.
Get a good meal in.
Yeah, just get.
Get a good meal in, just get inthe tub.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Get that body temperature up to 101.5.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
I need a cola, sometimes A birch beer.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
High in calories, but worth it?

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Is it Just our blank expressions?
Try and look interesting.

Speaker 6 (43:32):
Just eat an apple.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Blame it all on me.
Cause God.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
I need a cold one.
I blame myself.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah, just eat an apple, Almond butter, I don't
know, yeah, a little honey.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
Yeah, a little cinnamon, nice healthy snack.
Yeah, some demerara sugar.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
These strings are very lovely.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Yeah, they should call this.
Well, this piece is called Lickmy.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Love Pump.
Oh God Okay.
That was cheesy, oh God Okay.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
That was cheesy.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Just take it easy, champ, I know, I know I'll sit.
The next couple plays.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Oh no, oh no, oh Spiders, problems after it

(45:06):
creates a problem, blame it onthe T-Tons.
Got your butt back here, thelma, now.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
God damn it.
Where did that come from?

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Okay, Just take it easy, champ.

(45:46):
Everyone's a building burningWith no one to put the fire out.
Standing at the window lookingout, call the fire department.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
This one's out of control.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Ready for time to burn us down?

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Everyone's an ocean drowning.
I'm not gonna give you a light.

Speaker 7 (46:33):
I'm gonna show you the light.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Nice pedal.
It's a nice fiddle Violin.
Can you ever tell a difference?

Speaker 6 (47:00):
No, they're all violins to me.
Yeah, that was a nice littleOutro.

(47:26):
Wow, great outro, great song,very delicate.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, subtle, simple lines intertwining.

Speaker 6 (47:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
It's Black Cadillacs outside Of you and we were done,
done, done With all the fuck,fuck fucking around, alright.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Kicked out a couple matches.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
You're so true to yourself.
You were true to no one else.
I should put you in the ground.
I've got the time.
I've got the hours.
I've got the shades.
I've got the hours.
I've got the shades, I've gotthe weeks.
I can tell to myself.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
I've got words but I can't speak.
Well, I was dark, dark, darkWith all the stuff, stuff, stuff
Going round.
I never fucked anybody over Inmy life, in every moment.
I ain't complaining, I ain'tblaming you, I ain't blaming you
.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
I didn't know that the words you said to me meant
more to me than they ever couldyou.
I didn't lie and I ain't saying.
I told the whole truth.
I didn't know that this game wewere playing even had a set of

(49:04):
rules.
We named our children aftertowns that we'd never been to,
and it's true that the cloudshung around Tampa's a good kid
name Tampa.

Speaker 6 (49:23):
Get over here Tampa, what about?

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Soda Tampa, Soda yeah .
Seven Shout out to Seven yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Glenn Burney.

Speaker 6 (49:36):
Get over here.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Yeah, what other cities?

Speaker 6 (49:42):
Dallas.
Maybe Dallas is not a bad name.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
I think it's better than Tampa.
It's my son, memphis.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Memphis yeah.

Speaker 6 (49:58):
Crayola Brown.
Shout out to the the craftyfuckers out there what the fuck
is he talking about?

Speaker 1 (50:16):
What the fuck is he talking about?
Alright, that was a nice way toend that one.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Okay, this is called One Chance.
What the fuck is he talkingabout?
Alright, that was a nice way toend that one.
Okay, this is called One Chance.
We might be coming down to theend soon.
Let me see when are we at.
Got one more after this?
Alright, so we're makingprogress here, going good, going

(50:42):
good, going good.
I have one chance to geteverything right.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Get everything right.
We have one chance, one chanceto get everything right.
We have one chance, one chanceand if we're lucky, we might.
My friends, my habits, myfamily, they mean so much to me.

(51:21):
Well, isn't that special?
I bet it's right.
I've seen so many ships sailingJust to head back out again and
go off thinking.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
Old wooden ship.
We'll see you next time.
That's an interesting conceptto me.
Yeah, why would you?
Why would you?
I don't know, sorry, sorry,folks.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
But yeah, I don't have a response for the box.

Speaker 6 (52:33):
Did you hear the song ?
I might have perused it.
It's got good harmony.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
I mean it's a little repetitive.
I kind of like this part.
I like the bass line, my family, they mean so much to me.

(53:08):
I just don't think that it'sright.
I've seen so many ships sailingjust to head back out again and
go on sinking.
All right, yeah, just saying,let it out, give it some air.
Man, play with it a little, alittle bit.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
That's right, okay.

Speaker 6 (53:21):
I could have seen more there, yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Actually.

Speaker 6 (53:27):
So this is Can we smoke in here?
Yeah, Eric's got those pockets.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
The good times are killing me.
There's some meandering, somerambling.
It's going to start rockingpretty soon, right?

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Here we go, dr.
God, I've got water and I knowyou can carry on.
Shrugged off, short-sighted,false assignment.
And what can I say?

Speaker 2 (54:13):
The lyrics are kind of clever.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Have one, have twenty more, one more, zend-o, it does
not relent.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
See why it's not made for a Grammy.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
The good times are killing me.
Kick bop, buzz, cut dick, headspin like what I said I made out

(54:50):
with Jane Fonda.
The good times are killing me.
The good times are killing me.

Speaker 5 (55:02):
I made out with Jane Fonda the good times are killing
me.

Speaker 7 (55:08):
It's just key.
Rock your Honor.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
And yes, I'm ready.
Got fed up with all that LSD.
There were no drugs involved.
I never know what she's doing.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
I got fed up with all that LSD.
There were no drugs involved.
I never know what she's doing.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
I'm on no sleep.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
That was clever.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Late nights with no no sleep.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
That was clever.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
No sleep.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
You let one ant stand up.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
How do you like?

Speaker 2 (56:01):
your whiskey.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
Whiskey, yeah, warm Like neat, or on the rocks Warm
I like it with ice, a littleclub soda, a little ginger ale,
a little root beer, a littlelime, a little Dr Pepper.
Give me a reserve and I'llsqueeze a lime in it.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
There you go and just piss the bartender off.
So bad.

Speaker 6 (56:26):
Oh my God, that's it.
Yeah, they're just like whatare you doing, Doing?

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Doing Like sit there and make a couple plays on it.

Speaker 6 (56:37):
You're like oh my God , it's a hundred year old bottle
.
You look a little stressed.
Oh, I'm stressed.
I mean the bite to it is, it'snot.
I'm more of a cocktail guy thana hard liquor drinking it

(57:01):
straight kind of guy.
I don't know, I'll do it, but Ilike the old fashioned.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
It's probably a better way to take your medicine
.

Speaker 6 (57:15):
Do you need that to have a good time?

Speaker 2 (57:18):
No, you know it's a risk for me.
I mean depending on how muchyou drink.

Speaker 6 (57:25):
Sometimes, you can't A risk for 99% of people and a
lot of people yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
All right, so I guess we got through it.
Okay, there we go.
So yeah, we got another one ofthe books.
Now we got to do our top three.

Speaker 6 (57:42):
Let's go to the list here okay, here's the list.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Here you go.

Speaker 6 (57:44):
I'm gonna go um what's your number three.
I like Bury Me With it.
I think that had a.
That's my number three.
Okay, it's sort of um back intothat punk sort of darkness, but
it was also very clever and um,just great melody and sort of
back into that punk sort ofdarkness, but it was also very

(58:04):
clever and just great melody.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Yeah, doesn't he get like really Harry Carey in that?

Speaker 6 (58:08):
Yeah, the screaming, the screaming, yeah, and that's
what he's about.
That's what I like about thisband is that when he goes kind
of vocally off, the rails Right,which is the fun part about
this band.
I don't always keep itcurtailed.
You don't even know whatthey're talking about, which is
like it's ambiguous a lot of thetimes.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
I agree, I agree.
My number three is going to bethat last one.
We heard the Good Times AreKilling Me.

Speaker 6 (58:36):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
I thought it was, I don't know.
I just thought it was.
Uh, I just thought it was.
It was clever, it was had anice little melody to it.
So that'll be my number threeokay.

Speaker 6 (58:50):
Um, you know, number two for me blame it on the
tetons, the outro okay and thethe raw, like sort of
delicateness of of it was a goodjuxtaposition to a lot of their
harder punker songs it was oneof the better songs on this

(59:13):
album.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Yeah, it was.
That was a bubble.
I want to know what Tetons are.

Speaker 6 (59:17):
I want to know what Tetons are.
It's kind of a weird title.
Blame it on the Tetons.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Well, in Yellowstone National Park they have the
Teton Mount, yes, so I mean, Idon't know if that's the number
one thing that comes to mind,for me, I mean now like women's
breasts, have been referred toas Tetons.
The Tetons, so I don't know ifthey're, you know they're using
it in that crude of a fashionand that's what they're saying

(59:45):
Like, blame it on.
Like, whatever his heartbreakis, blame it on the Tetons.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
Blame it on Jane Fonda's Tetons, you know.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Maybe that's who he's referring to.

Speaker 6 (59:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Maybe it's come full circle with our sound clip.

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
I don't know Joy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
I made out with Jane Fonda, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
So I'm going to go.
Am I number two?
I'm going to go, Bukowski.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
Nice yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Yeah, I just that wasn't.
He kind of goes off the rails alittle bit there too right,
just that wasn't he kind of goesoff the rails a little bit
there too right, he does.
Yep, it was just, uh, thenihilistic.
It was very nihilistic, andthat's what I liked about it,
and that's that's theirwheelhouse right there.

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
So that's my number two okay, I'm going with the
view of our number one nosurprise, pop edge yeah I mean
the view.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Yeah, I really liked it it's my number one too,
because it cuts through the restof it.
It's sort of like a disco songyeah and the fact that they had
that range and they did it welland it just gives the whole.
It just gives more depth to thealbum okay and so, yeah, it was

(01:01:00):
just executed very well.
Also, good drumming Great look,good drummer.

Speaker 6 (01:01:06):
Yeah, a lot of the others are fillers and those, I
think, four.
We mentioned five.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:01:13):
Are solid, solid songs other than the three that
are great, great, great hits.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:01:19):
Float on being my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Yeah, it's probably my favorite as well.
The World at Large is a closesecond, though, for me.

Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
I like Ocean Breeze Salty, slightly better than the
World at Large, maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Yeah, well, that's okay, man, that's where we
diverge.
We can't hit, but yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:01:36):
I love the aquatic theme here and you know, water
is eternal.
We're made up of water.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Yeah, put that into some deep context.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
Way down, way just deeper and deeper, deeper and
deeper.
All right Bowtied.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Yep, go-tied, and let's see Roll-tied, go-tied.
Okay, yep, go Tide and let'ssee Roll Tide, go Tide.

Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
Are we putting a bow on this?
The water's cold.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Okay, all right, we're out of here.
Thanks for listening, guys,take care.
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