May 28, 2025 • 45 mins
We dive into the Shins' debut album O Inverted World, examining how James Mercer established a unique sound that would define indie rock in the early 2000s.
• The Shins formed in 1996 in Albuquerque, New Mexico with James Mercer as the driving creative force
• The band's breakout hit "New Slang" gained massive popularity after being featured in the film Garden State
• Oh, Inverted World showcases Mercer's distinctive songwriting style with thoughtful lyrics and unique melodies
• The album blends influences from 60s psychedelic rock with contemporary indie sensibilities
• Standout tracks include the opening "Caring Is Creepy," the hypnotic "One By One All Day," and the French horn-featuring closer "The Past and Pending"
• The Shins have maintained relevance with James Mercer as the consistent creative force through lineup changes
• Beyond The Shins, Mercer has worked on side projects including Broken Bells with producer Danger Mouse
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What are you listening?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
to the Shins.
You know them no.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Alright, thank you for listening to the Greatest
Non-Hits.
I'm Chris and playing the songthe Past Impending from the
Shins album.
O Inverted World is my co-host,tim, and we're going to listen
to their debut album.
This album came out in 2001.
(00:38):
The Shins, if you're notfamiliar, they're an American
indie rock band.
They formed in 1996 fromAlbuquerque, new Mexico, and the
driving force was a gentlemanby the name of James Mercer, and
I mean they're still around.
I'm talking about them in thepast tense, but in the present
tense they're.
They're a really good band.
(01:00):
James Mercer's the front manand over the years they've had a
number of different otherartists, but he's really like
the main, the mainstay in thelineup over the years.
On this particular albumactually, yeah, I should say
(01:20):
James Mercer and another, thedrummer, I think Jesse Sandoval
also has been in the band forsome time.
I know they replaced him withanother drummer who plays with
them in different iterations,different bands, some of the
other, but Jesse Sandoval playsdrums on this one.
(01:40):
The original lineup JamesMercer, jesse Sandoval drums,
marty Crandall keyboards, neilLangford bass.
James Mercer plays vocals,guitars.
He plays other things auto harp, xylophone, all those other
peripheral instruments.
So they've got a couple ofother musicians on the album,
(02:03):
but that's the main lineup forthis album, their debut album.
There's some cello thrown inthere, etc.
But nevertheless, like I said,the debut album came out in 2001
, received critical acclaim.
It really established them inthe indie rock scene.
(02:25):
So their big breakthrough,though, is from a song on this
album called New Slang, and itwas in the film Garden State,
and that really helped boosttheir visibility.
They have a pretty distinctsound too.
They're known for.
You know their their melodies.
(02:46):
There are a lot of verythoughtful lyrics.
There's some you know differentinfluences that blend rock,
folk and pop.
Um, and I would say like from myI mean, I haven't listened to
them a whole lot.
I listened to this album a fewtimes and some of their albums.
I think I liked some of theother albums, like some of their
(03:07):
older albums or their neweralbums I should say a little bit
better, but they've got a goodcollection, and this one is
decent.
I'm a fan.
Tim is more familiar with theircatalog than I am, so, but
nevertheless, some of theirother successful albums uh,
shoots too narrow, wincing thenight away.
(03:28):
I think I liked that one.
And, um, they have an albumfrom 2017 called heartworms.
I think that was really good.
Um, and within their career, youknow they've taken some
hiatuses, some reunions after2012.
They went on a brief hiatus.
I think that they let go of acouple guys I don't know, maybe
(03:52):
Sandoval, I'm not sure.
Anyway, they've receivednominations for many different
awards.
I think they've gotten a coupleof Grammy nominations awards.
I think they've gotten a coupleof grammy nominations.
So, um, as far as influences,you know they're credited with
(04:12):
indie rock, so, um, also, jamesmercer has some side projects,
so, like, in addition to theshins, he's worked on a couple
of other albums, including, um,his sideband Broken Bells with
the guy, the Danger Mouse, who'sa.
That's the guy's stage name.
He's, you know he's.
What are we talking about here?
(04:34):
I don't know what his actualname is, but I guess it doesn't
matter Brian Burton.
Okay, there we go.
So, anyway, you know what we'regoing to do on this podcast,
what we do every time.
We were going to listen to allthe songs.
We've got a bunch of soundclips banked.
It's going to be hilarious.
We're going to, we're going toyuck it up and then, at the end,
(04:56):
we're going to give you our topthree non hits from the album.
So trying to think new slang,we have to, we.
I think we shouldn't make thata a hit and exclude that from
what we're going to be doinghere.
(05:17):
So I think I have an idea ofabout maybe two of what my top
non-hits are.
But you know I'm going to keepan open mind.
We'll listen to it again, seeif this, if this hits me
differently, with uh, with Timhere, and you know we'll see how
it goes.
But in the meantime Tim is allsettled in.
He's going to join us.
Tim, how you doing bud?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Splints.
Splints I've got splints here,oh gosh, yeah, no, I did a nice
jog, yeah, nice jog, and oh Dida nice jog with the, With the
shins in the background.
It was nice Sure Shin splints.
(05:59):
Of course I got it I used toget shin splints a little bit.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I did too.
I don't get them as muchanymore.
I know I grew out of them.
Is that what it is when you'reyounger?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yes, but I'm growing into this band.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Oh, nice segue, Thank you, you're growing into them.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I am growing into them.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
You've been talking about them a lot in the
neighborhood lately.
Is this a new thing for you, orhave you always been a fan from
the?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
beginning there's only a couple songs that really
hit.
You know the Rifle Spiral,there's the Sea Legs and some of
these other songs on theWincing the Night of the Way and
you know the Past and thePending is Caring is Creepy.
Some of these songs are justreally good songs that I think,
(06:47):
and New Slang.
I'm maybe half in the bag onthat one and always was.
Yeah for some reason peoplelove that song.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
She says it's life-changing in the movie.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Maybe it is, it's got so many more listens than
everything else, but I I in myopinion, all these songs could
potentially be hits in their ownway.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I don't know I've got a couple that I've thrown away,
but hey, we'll listen.
Man, it's time to get creepy,you know we'll uh, time to get
creepy.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You ready to get into it?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
are we we going to?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Crazy, it's just wild , weird stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Okay, let's start.
Okay, the first song's Caringis Creepy.
So let's get right into it andsee what we got.
This isn't Caring is Creepy.
What the hell is that?
Here we go.
That was the flaming lips.
I don't know what that was.
(07:46):
Here we go.
It's technical, it's technical,it's technical.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Long last.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Some good rhyming.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Shout out to the runners.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Hopefully no cramps, no whammies, stay hydrated out
there.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Watch out for the power lines.
Yes, lots of words, lots oftricks On this album.
A lot of rhyming, a lot ofrhyming.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
A mess of roads.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
See, this is a good cheersing song.
Yeah, hold your glass up,although he doesn't like to hang
out with people.
James, right, james.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Right, well, yeah, didn't he say?
Yeah, he was like uninterestedin partying with his friends,
like when he was making thisalbum.
Right, they didn't know.
He didn't know where this wasgoing to go at all, but maybe
this adds to the authenticityit's just a ruse to get some
(09:41):
rockstar status.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yes, laying bricks the pants with the pants, party
with pants.
He's just trying to have aparty with pants.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
She's like Brick.
Are you trying to tell me thatthere's a party in your pants
that I'm invited Feels a littleweird.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Nice organs yeah, it's kind of psychedelic Nice.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, sort of.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
A lot of cymbal going on.
I kind of like it.
In certain places you don'thear the English accent in the
song.
It's like singing in Englishhe's very enunciated.
(10:41):
Yeah, he's from Albuquerque,you know, he's an Army guy, or?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Air.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Force.
His dad was in the Air Force.
He traveled around, went tohigh school at one point in
England, germany, so it'sauthentic.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Maybe he just feels like he doesn't fit.
He's always just making these.
He's got a song catalog, that'shis friends.
Those are his friends, hissongs.
Okay, we got it.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
This next one.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
This is one by one, all day engine grease and mint
is a good combo.
Yeah, yeah, let's get fonzie upin here.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yes, One two, one two three, a hill a pine tree.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, shout out to the Fonz and the late great Phil
Harmon, of course, Right.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
And Ed McMahon too, who he was impersonating or
ripping on really, and the foxthat snails and we can fill a
pocket.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
James is just getting calls to go to parties.
He's like no, I'm looking underrocks right now.
I'm looking for some snails soI can put them in my pocket.
Make a song about it.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I don't know, do they have snails in Albuquerque,
though?
It's too dry.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, it's too dry for snails.
Scorpion, I don't know, I don'tknow what that is.
Scorpion's in your pocket?
Sure, that sounds like a goodidea.
Yeah, yeah, this is kind ofentrancing.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
The drums are very interesting.
There's a lot of beats.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Dare I say too many?
No, I don't know.
You can hear the pigs slappingI like that.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
It's just a part of the aesthetic.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yes, like Matisse's cutouts where you can see the
pencil.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Exactly through these lines, just simple, subtle
lines intertwined.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
These lines, just simple subtle lines intertwining
Simple lines intertwining Rockarrow.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
This is a good one.
It's happy.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah, I like that they're doing a little xylophone
.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
See, the indie hits the Devil in the Details with
these little.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah Well, James Mercer does that and a sing.
Now can he xylophone and singat the same time?
Has that ever been done?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
What can he not do, yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
That's right, you tell him.
You tell him Scarface.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
All I need more of this, please.
This is good.
I think this one's hitting meeven harder.
Yeah, on second, third, third,listen here.
You know what?
You're right.
It's got a sort of uh, rhythmicapproach.
It's hypnotic.
I've forgiven the drummer fortoo many notes at this point.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah, he's got to be tired.
The sand ball is like crushinghim.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
He's got bricks for arms and legs.
Yeah, the pants, the pants part.
He's got bricks in his pants.
Weird, wild stuff.
(15:00):
I did not know that.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yes, all day, don't roll your eyes at this Whoa,
okay, that was a Whoa.
Okay, that was a.
Okay, a strong ending.
Okay, all right, this one iscalled.
Does that mean it's?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
well, it's one louder , isn't it?
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Purposes crossed between our kinds, between our
kinds between our kinds, betweenour kinds between our kinds
(15:59):
between our kinds, between ourkinds, between our kinds between
our kinds, between our kinds,between our kinds between our
kinds, the silver leaves of babytrees To plant as we pass so
long.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
But a short time.
I know it pleases me thismemory.
I've swollen up with it, allright.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
How about those bears Starting to feel like a Taser's
Choice moment between bros?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Come on, You're just trying Anyway do you mind?
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Okay, I'm sorry, man, I ruined the song for a time.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Gosh Boo.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Boo, good things to you.
That was a Taster's Choicemoment.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yes, this is a weird divide.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I think it's a oh.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
You're bullish on that one.
This one's called Know yourOnion.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I mean, I think I know my onion, but you never
know how well you know youronion.
What is that?
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Like slang for drugs.
Know your, I don't know you'reonion.
What is that Like slang fordrugs?
Know your, I don't know.
Know your onion.
What is that?
Like a Puppers Testicular?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
cancer Downers.
Yeah, okay, he's closing thewindows.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Okay, it's kind of like A little bit.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
It sounds like a little bit.
It sounds like 60s music.
It does, it really does.
It's kind of like a retro.
It's coming full circle withthis, like Mamas and the Papas
shit, yeah, and the Doors really.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That was like a Ray Manzarek little thing.
They just did there, yeah, butthe Doors had more Cajones.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, the doors had more cojones.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
But you can still tell it was made like in the
2000s, despite yeah, tell it wasmade like in the 2000s, despite
they're taking flight yeah,flying somewhere.
(19:19):
It's like private school kidmusic.
Yeah, it is.
This is like private schoolstuff.
Natalie Corbin yeah, teen angst.
Yeah, teen angst.
Yeah, the melting sliding dice.
We've always been Okay, allright.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
This one is called Girl Informant.
We might have a sound clip ofthe inspirational girl in the
mirror saying she can do allthings great, do you believe?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Do you believe I can't come to Boston?
Well enough, well enough.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
This was one of my top three.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Girls are always using potions, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Girls, girls, girls, why don't you?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
let me fix you some of this new mo' cocoa drink.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Shout out to our sponsors.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
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Mount Nicaragua, no artificialsweeteners.
Happy, fun ball also Shout outto them, yeah.
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(21:30):
That's right.
Now we're talking MountNicaragua, probably, so they get
the best mustard to cut yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Do you cut mustard, the mustard seeds?
Is that what?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
you think I think cutting the mustard.
It's a colloquialism.
I've never used it.
You think it'll cut the mustard?
It's like a yeah, cut themustard is a colloquialism.
I've never used it.
You think it'll cut the mustard?
It's like a.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, cut the mustard .
Oh, I think.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Nobody says that anymore.
Which coffee brand to make?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Oh that's.
Are we going to do that?
Are we going to just talk aboutshit?
Coffee brands.
Oh yeah, Are we going to doFolgers versus Chock Full of
Nuts versus?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Maxwell House oh, 8 o'clock.
8 o'clock blend is pretty good.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I'm going to go with that.
Yeah, it's a really good bandcall Sometimes.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I have it at 7, so don't tell them yeah, oh, of
course not.
You're only supposed to have itat that time.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Oh man.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yeah, okay, this is new slang.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
This is the hit.
It's about Al Kirk.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Yeah, it's about him being just disillusioned with
the whole scene, not him beingjust disillusioned with the
whole scene.
He wasn't partying with hisfriends.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
He wrote this before the shinti really formed.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
He really stretches out the words.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Like the word jumped, he's like jumped.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, shout out to the old and bony.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yeah, shout out to the old and bony.
Definitely we're thinking ofyou, right?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
now.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Just fill up those forms.
Yeah, mine.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I'll let them know.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
So if you just fill up those forms, yeah, if you
took to me like a Mine, makesure you don't eat the fruit
cocktail.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
It's a killer, lay off the macoco for a little Lay
off the macoco Lay off themacoco.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Don't forget to take your Eloquus on schedule.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You gotta hear this one song.
It'll change your life, I swear.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
We're listening to it .
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Natalie yeah, we're listening, jeez God.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Godspeed, all the beggars have done.
We're listening to it, Natalie,yeah we're listening.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Jeez God, for our lives to change.
I know, yeah, my life hasn'tchanged.
Yet we're almost.
We're over halfway through thesong.
I'm twiddling my thumbs.
Yes, I'm getting impatient.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I did just put in some questionable investments.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
We'll see how they turn out.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Blockbuster video A thousand.
Put a thousand on that, onethousand to Blockbuster 2001 was
their heyday.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
That was a rewinder.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
That was their heyday .
That was, you know, a rewinder.
That was a good job, that was arewinder, oh.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, what did that do you just put the tape in the
thing and wind it up, yeah, putit back, yeah, and you do it all
over again.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Pro-rate their fine to how much they didn't unwind.
If they didn't unwind the wholemovie, it was half of the tape,
it was a couple seconds, maybea couple pennies.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Oh, that's interesting.
I don't remember that.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Okay, you're fucking with me, All right, thanks.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
That was good.
I believed it yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
No that was a good one, the celibate life.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
The rewinder.
That was a good segue.
What is he?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
talking about here, no sex.
I think Looks good I like it orshe's not leading a celibate
life.
So I mean there's not a lot ofcharacter development in the
lyrics but I just think it'sabout.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Time to get creepy?
Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Like a girl that sleeps around a lot, isn't like
one of the girls in the middlewho are always first to fall off
?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I'll bring all my shoes and my glasses with me.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Shout out to Saul Rosenberg.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
This is like a bad Bob Dylan song or something,
yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I mean, there's some bad Bob Dylan songs.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
It sounds like a bad Beach Boys song to me and Bob
Dylan.
It's sort of like a crossbetween bad Bob Dylan and bad
Beach Boys.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Oh, my great good God .
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Gentlemen, your attention please.
Yes, this was called Girls onthe Wind.
Okay, we're peaking up here.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
That was a lovely night.
This is upbeat.
This is upbeat.
Yeah, I like the progression ofthe album.
It goes down, comes back up.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
It's like a tidal rabbit.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Came of age before time.
Yeah Right.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
It's like they're serpentine, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
it's like you go way up and you go way down and the
serpent and the rabbit justtangle.
That's right.
James is hanging out withfriends again.
(28:41):
I think he's good, yeah, yeah,this is a little bit more
optimistic.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
He's got a good wingman friend.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
All right, surrender, let's rock and roll All of you
guys.
It's a little raw, but it'sokay.
Barbershop, I'm crazy, it'sjust wild, weird, crazy, it's
(29:36):
just.
I like this one a lot.
I think it's mostly the synthysort of synth.
I like how it's a synth-y synth.
We dance, yeah, it's soprofound.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Yeah, leer to them.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
These babies can go off.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
A song of modern love .
Yeah, he's.
He's like oh shit, I just met agirl and I'm making a song
about it.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Yeah, all right, that was good.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Wait, just a minute.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Okay so there we go.
What's the next.
Okay, this is called yourAlgebra.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Your Algebra.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
This is kind of artsy .
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Would you listen to the gibberish they've got you
saying it's sad and alarming?
Ah, would you listen to thegibberish they've got you saying
it's sad and alarming.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
It is going to get sad and alarming pretty soon.
I think I can hear a cello inthe background.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Before you die, time to get creepy.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
This is creepy.
It's like this is barbershoprock.
Seriously, they're likeharmonizing in a bad way.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I love the shot of Raga.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Lost their eyes?
What?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Lost their eyes?
What?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Also, you have like really big eyes, and that freaks
me out sometimes.
Thank you, the fuck is hetalking about.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
You know what?
Shout out to Melanie Crandallon the cello, oh, and Niels
Galloway on the French horn oh,that's on a different song, but
yeah, that was Melanie Crandall.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Ah, would you listen to the gibberish they?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
That was my gibberish .
No, it's this whole album.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
It really is.
I wish there was more gibberish.
This whole album is gibberish,it really is.
I wish there was more characterdevelopment.
You got the chillins in thebackground.
Yeah, see, this is the indiegoodness that you like.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
That's right that you would expect, alright.
So what do we got going on Apast in a book, pressed in a
book.
Pressed in a book, I'm sorry,pressed in a book.
This is the song you did.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I don't know Past and pending.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Oh, past and pending.
Yeah, pressed in a book, Seethey're so they're all the same.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
They're all the same.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
It's all pressed past , yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Tyler Shoelace's runners Head up.
Yes, let's go.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Get that VO2 max up, keep going.
Is that a conditioner?
Yeah, it sounds like aconditioner.
It does VO2 max.
Yeah, it should be.
Oh, that's VO5.
That's Alberto VO5.
Yeah, it should be.
That's V05.
That's Alberto V05.
From back in the 60s, 70s, Idon't know Now, vo2 max is like,
(33:46):
it's a measurement of, like,cardio fitness.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Oh, it all depends like the more you run, the
higher the.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
VO2 index is Again.
We have the creepy referencehere.
There's a lot of them, butcreep good people out.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Yeah, I mean, when I creep people out, I want them to
be bad people.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Sometimes you're jogging in the corner.
You know that's how I.
I creep people out.
I want them to be bad people.
Sometimes you're jogging in thecorner.
You know that's how I creeppeople out.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Yeah, if anybody could get a good run and jog in
and mess with people randomly, Icould see you do it
Ridiculously short, runningshort.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, god, this is great.
Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah, shout out to the guy who runs around all over
town in a Speedo.
Yeah, Speedo guy.
Yeah, there's a Speedo guy inour city.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
That's why I don't, you know, hate on the shortness
of mind.
At least I'm not in a Speedo.
Close enough.
Short, but it's not speedo,that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
His, yours isn't In comparison.
In comparison, no, you do dothe short short.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
What the fuck is he talking about?
Yeah, I got the headphones on,I didn't hear it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'stechnical, it's pressing above.
Okay, I got bricks and Bricksin my pants.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
No bricks in the speedo.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
My legs are bricks.
Is that good?
Okay, I got it.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Okay, I still want to talk about the guy in the
speedo.
Oh, my great, good God, I stillwant to talk about the guy in
Speedo.
Well, I mean because I've come.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I think you need a separate podcast for that.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Yeah, no, when he's coming in the opposite direction
from me as I'm running, youknow his Speedo is like it's
like right there and you can'thelp.
But not like look right at it,you know it's like oh my great
good, it's not gay you know, Imean it's just you know, it just
is what it you know.
But he's got it nice and youknow like secured.
You know it's like he reallytakes because he runs in it
(36:09):
every single day.
He's famous for it, so it'sjust like be more fit.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
We settled down, just no, I mean he's a hell of a
runner, but yeah, he's just like.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
He'd be more fit.
No, I mean, he's a hell of arunner.
But yeah, he's got like.
He's kind of like he's like anathlete in a non-athlete's body.
I'll let it go.
He looks like Kevin Nealon fromSNL, Don't you think?
Oh?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
my God.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Think about Kevin Nealon in a Speedo running all
over town.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I'll bring all my shoes and my glasses with me,
just be watching.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yeah, yeah, this is a good song.
This is the past impending.
This is the song that you introto yeah, and I'm a fan.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Sad, sad Trumpet Held to the past.
Who were aware?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
of the pending Chill as the dawn breaks and finds us
up for sale.
Into the fog, another low roaddescending.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Away from the cold.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Such an indie build up there A little indie build up
Transition Indie build up thereA little transition.
I mean, this song is all vibes,it's an easy song.
It's just a vibe, that's what Ilike about his style.
(37:54):
It's not like a hard guitarplaying style.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
It's just simple lines intertwining yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, are you crying?
What's that, are you?
Speaker 4 (38:10):
crying.
Am I crying?
No, I'm not crying.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
It's just a taster's choice.
This is Taster Folgers.
I'm not crying.
It's just a taster's choice.
This is Folgers.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Team Folgers.
Really, not 8 o'clock Maybe weshould put 8 o'clock in a
different category than Folgers.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Chalk Full of Nuts is good For a cheap coffee.
Cafe Bustelo is good too,bustelo.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
That stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
It's jet fuel.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
It is.
It's a little harsh.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
It's a bit harsh.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
It's kind of harsh.
If your craft is running Feetto the sun Turns into wood
(39:19):
Dowsing an ancient door.
No one ever holds it.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Just loiter the whole day and lose yourself.
Yeah, just lose yourself whenhis cares and inhibitions will
be gone and lose yourself, andlose yourself, and lose yourself
Deep, deeper and deeper Waydown.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Oh, this is the French horn.
Seems good, I like it.
Shout out to Niels Galloway.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, Niels.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
I've heard the.
French horn's like a bitch toplay too.
It's like it almost likeactually hurts to play.
I bet.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Call the fire department.
This one's out of control.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Album cover is just like it's got a blue background
with some cotton, some cotton.
So what's this Taste?
Is choice between you guys,deeper and deeper Way down.
Is that it yeah?
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Okay, they ended it with the Like up Nice High note,
a high note.
They really did.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
It was kind of melancholy and it did back into
Happyville, yeah, I mean theykind of got lost with your
algebra and then they made upfor it at the end.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
So it's a good end on a high note.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Some foregone equations.
They couldn't show their workOkay.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
All right, yeah, all right.
I was going to ask you to saythe next couple plays up.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
We'll let it ride.
You know your onion.
Okay, I do.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
I do know my onion.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
It's purple onion.
They call it red, but it'sdefinitely purple.
I want to know your top threethough I'm going to go number
three One by one all day.
Yeah, Good choice.
Yeah, it just had that outroand it was like it came to party
(42:13):
, even though if it didn't wantto go to the party, it came.
And it was like came to party,even though if it didn't want to
go to the party, it came.
It came and it was like what'sup hi you know, so that's my
number three.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
No, it's a good song.
Man, my number three is gonnabe caring.
It is creepy.
Just because I mean just thefact that it has creepy in there
is, yeah, it's absolutely rightout of the gate.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Great song that's my number three Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
I'm going to go.
You know, geez, I'm going to goGirl on the Wing is number
number two and uh, yeah, I meanyeah, it had that synthy thing
in it and they really, you know,just dove out of the plane with
(43:07):
no parachute, on the solo.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
It was good, yeah, just it was groovy, I did, I dug
it.
That's my number two as well.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Nice Girl on the Wing .
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Girl on the Wing.
It has to be in there.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
It's a great song.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, james got a girlfriend.
He was like bam yeah, what's up, all right, my number one, I'm
going to Past and Pending.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Yeah, it's just yeah, that's the foreshad.
It's always up there, but youwent straight with number one.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Yeah, I'm going to say you know what?
That's my number one too.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
Just because it was mellow, it was a no-brainer.
It was just that French horn.
At the end it was beautiful itwas yeah.
It was good, I dug it, I dug ita lot yeah good album.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, yeah, good album.
Yeah, it was a good album.
You know good band good solidindie band.
You know good drummer good,look, great drummer and more to
come from this man.
I mean, they really do, I think, get better musically he adds
some more talent um they getbetter in and I think he's
receptive.
You know he's probably the headman, but he definitely right.
You know he definitely lets itin Right.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
But this album is important because it sets the
tone for what you hear later onin their careers.
This is a defining.
They make their mark on theworld.
It's their very first album.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
You don't think early 2000s with this?
I don't know, it's kind of thetime it was released.
Maybe doesn't match when it was.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Well because, it became popular in 2004 after
Garden State.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, it took a while .
Speaker 4 (44:45):
But the music, though , is what critics say is a
little bit ahead of its time,and I agree, maybe, yeah.
Yeah and it may have influencedother music after 2004.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
And mirroring times from past as well.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Well, yeah, a lot of Beach Boys is Pet Sounds-ish.
Yeah, not as good, but prettygood.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
You can't do better than that.
Yeah, I know it's hard to.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Yeah, it really is, but nevertheless it was
enjoyable.
It was a good time.
Yeah good time.
All right Woo, All right take.
What are you listening?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
to the Shins.
You know them no.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Alright, thank you for listening to the Greatest
Non-Hits.
I'm Chris and playing the songthe Past Impending from the
Shins album.
O Inverted World is my co-host,tim, and we're going to listen
to their debut album.
This album came out in 2001.
(00:38):
The Shins, if you're notfamiliar, they're an American
indie rock band.
They formed in 1996 fromAlbuquerque, new Mexico, and the
driving force was a gentlemanby the name of James Mercer, and
I mean they're still around.
I'm talking about them in thepast tense, but in the present
tense they're.
They're a really good band.
(01:00):
James Mercer's the front manand over the years they've had a
number of different otherartists, but he's really like
the main, the mainstay in thelineup over the years.
On this particular albumactually, yeah, I should say
(01:20):
James Mercer and another, thedrummer, I think Jesse Sandoval
also has been in the band forsome time.
I know they replaced him withanother drummer who plays with
them in different iterations,different bands, some of the
other, but Jesse Sandoval playsdrums on this one.
(01:40):
The original lineup JamesMercer, jesse Sandoval drums,
marty Crandall keyboards, neilLangford bass.
James Mercer plays vocals,guitars.
He plays other things auto harp, xylophone, all those other
peripheral instruments.
So they've got a couple ofother musicians on the album,
(02:03):
but that's the main lineup forthis album, their debut album.
There's some cello thrown inthere, etc.
But nevertheless, like I said,the debut album came out in 2001
, received critical acclaim.
It really established them inthe indie rock scene.
(02:25):
So their big breakthrough,though, is from a song on this
album called New Slang, and itwas in the film Garden State,
and that really helped boosttheir visibility.
They have a pretty distinctsound too.
They're known for.
You know their their melodies.
(02:46):
There are a lot of verythoughtful lyrics.
There's some you know differentinfluences that blend rock,
folk and pop.
Um, and I would say like from myI mean, I haven't listened to
them a whole lot.
I listened to this album a fewtimes and some of their albums.
I think I liked some of theother albums, like some of their
(03:07):
older albums or their neweralbums I should say a little bit
better, but they've got a goodcollection, and this one is
decent.
I'm a fan.
Tim is more familiar with theircatalog than I am, so, but
nevertheless, some of theirother successful albums uh,
shoots too narrow, wincing thenight away.
(03:28):
I think I liked that one.
And, um, they have an albumfrom 2017 called heartworms.
I think that was really good.
Um, and within their career, youknow they've taken some
hiatuses, some reunions after2012.
They went on a brief hiatus.
I think that they let go of acouple guys I don't know, maybe
(03:52):
Sandoval, I'm not sure.
Anyway, they've receivednominations for many different
awards.
I think they've gotten a coupleof Grammy nominations awards.
I think they've gotten a coupleof grammy nominations.
So, um, as far as influences,you know they're credited with
(04:12):
indie rock, so, um, also, jamesmercer has some side projects,
so, like, in addition to theshins, he's worked on a couple
of other albums, including, um,his sideband Broken Bells with
the guy, the Danger Mouse, who'sa.
That's the guy's stage name.
He's, you know he's.
What are we talking about here?
(04:34):
I don't know what his actualname is, but I guess it doesn't
matter Brian Burton.
Okay, there we go.
So, anyway, you know what we'regoing to do on this podcast,
what we do every time.
We were going to listen to allthe songs.
We've got a bunch of soundclips banked.
It's going to be hilarious.
We're going to, we're going toyuck it up and then, at the end,
(04:56):
we're going to give you our topthree non hits from the album.
So trying to think new slang,we have to, we.
I think we shouldn't make thata a hit and exclude that from
what we're going to be doinghere.
(05:17):
So I think I have an idea ofabout maybe two of what my top
non-hits are.
But you know I'm going to keepan open mind.
We'll listen to it again, seeif this, if this hits me
differently, with uh, with Timhere, and you know we'll see how
it goes.
But in the meantime Tim is allsettled in.
He's going to join us.
Tim, how you doing bud?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Splints.
Splints I've got splints here,oh gosh, yeah, no, I did a nice
jog, yeah, nice jog, and oh Dida nice jog with the, With the
shins in the background.
It was nice Sure Shin splints.
(05:59):
Of course I got it I used toget shin splints a little bit.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I did too.
I don't get them as muchanymore.
I know I grew out of them.
Is that what it is when you'reyounger?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yes, but I'm growing into this band.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Oh, nice segue, Thank you, you're growing into them.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I am growing into them.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
You've been talking about them a lot in the
neighborhood lately.
Is this a new thing for you, orhave you always been a fan from
the?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
beginning there's only a couple songs that really
hit.
You know the Rifle Spiral,there's the Sea Legs and some of
these other songs on theWincing the Night of the Way and
you know the Past and thePending is Caring is Creepy.
Some of these songs are justreally good songs that I think,
(06:47):
and New Slang.
I'm maybe half in the bag onthat one and always was.
Yeah for some reason peoplelove that song.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
She says it's life-changing in the movie.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Maybe it is, it's got so many more listens than
everything else, but I I in myopinion, all these songs could
potentially be hits in their ownway.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I don't know I've got a couple that I've thrown away,
but hey, we'll listen.
Man, it's time to get creepy,you know we'll uh, time to get
creepy.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You ready to get into it?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
are we we going to?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Crazy, it's just wild , weird stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Okay, let's start.
Okay, the first song's Caringis Creepy.
So let's get right into it andsee what we got.
This isn't Caring is Creepy.
What the hell is that?
Here we go.
That was the flaming lips.
I don't know what that was.
(07:46):
Here we go.
It's technical, it's technical,it's technical.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Long last.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Some good rhyming.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Shout out to the runners.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Hopefully no cramps, no whammies, stay hydrated out
there.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Watch out for the power lines.
Yes, lots of words, lots oftricks On this album.
A lot of rhyming, a lot ofrhyming.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
A mess of roads.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
See, this is a good cheersing song.
Yeah, hold your glass up,although he doesn't like to hang
out with people.
James, right, james.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Right, well, yeah, didn't he say?
Yeah, he was like uninterestedin partying with his friends,
like when he was making thisalbum.
Right, they didn't know.
He didn't know where this wasgoing to go at all, but maybe
this adds to the authenticityit's just a ruse to get some
(09:41):
rockstar status.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yes, laying bricks the pants with the pants, party
with pants.
He's just trying to have aparty with pants.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
She's like Brick.
Are you trying to tell me thatthere's a party in your pants
that I'm invited Feels a littleweird.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Nice organs yeah, it's kind of psychedelic Nice.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, sort of.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
A lot of cymbal going on.
I kind of like it.
In certain places you don'thear the English accent in the
song.
It's like singing in Englishhe's very enunciated.
(10:41):
Yeah, he's from Albuquerque,you know, he's an Army guy, or?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Air.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Force.
His dad was in the Air Force.
He traveled around, went tohigh school at one point in
England, germany, so it'sauthentic.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Maybe he just feels like he doesn't fit.
He's always just making these.
He's got a song catalog, that'shis friends.
Those are his friends, hissongs.
Okay, we got it.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
This next one.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
This is one by one, all day engine grease and mint
is a good combo.
Yeah, yeah, let's get fonzie upin here.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yes, One two, one two three, a hill a pine tree.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, shout out to the Fonz and the late great Phil
Harmon, of course, Right.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
And Ed McMahon too, who he was impersonating or
ripping on really, and the foxthat snails and we can fill a
pocket.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
James is just getting calls to go to parties.
He's like no, I'm looking underrocks right now.
I'm looking for some snails soI can put them in my pocket.
Make a song about it.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I don't know, do they have snails in Albuquerque,
though?
It's too dry.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, it's too dry for snails.
Scorpion, I don't know, I don'tknow what that is.
Scorpion's in your pocket?
Sure, that sounds like a goodidea.
Yeah, yeah, this is kind ofentrancing.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
The drums are very interesting.
There's a lot of beats.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Dare I say too many?
No, I don't know.
You can hear the pigs slappingI like that.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
It's just a part of the aesthetic.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yes, like Matisse's cutouts where you can see the
pencil.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Exactly through these lines, just simple, subtle
lines intertwined.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
These lines, just simple subtle lines intertwining
Simple lines intertwining Rockarrow.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
This is a good one.
It's happy.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah, I like that they're doing a little xylophone
.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
See, the indie hits the Devil in the Details with
these little.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah Well, James Mercer does that and a sing.
Now can he xylophone and singat the same time?
Has that ever been done?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
What can he not do, yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
That's right, you tell him.
You tell him Scarface.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
All I need more of this, please.
This is good.
I think this one's hitting meeven harder.
Yeah, on second, third, third,listen here.
You know what?
You're right.
It's got a sort of uh, rhythmicapproach.
It's hypnotic.
I've forgiven the drummer fortoo many notes at this point.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah, he's got to be tired.
The sand ball is like crushinghim.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
He's got bricks for arms and legs.
Yeah, the pants, the pants part.
He's got bricks in his pants.
Weird, wild stuff.
(15:00):
I did not know that.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yes, all day, don't roll your eyes at this Whoa,
okay, that was a Whoa.
Okay, that was a.
Okay, a strong ending.
Okay, all right, this one iscalled.
Does that mean it's?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
well, it's one louder , isn't it?
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Purposes crossed between our kinds, between our
kinds between our kinds, betweenour kinds between our kinds
(15:59):
between our kinds, between ourkinds, between our kinds between
our kinds, between our kinds,between our kinds between our
kinds, the silver leaves of babytrees To plant as we pass so
long.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
But a short time.
I know it pleases me thismemory.
I've swollen up with it, allright.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
How about those bears Starting to feel like a Taser's
Choice moment between bros?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Come on, You're just trying Anyway do you mind?
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Okay, I'm sorry, man, I ruined the song for a time.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Gosh Boo.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Boo, good things to you.
That was a Taster's Choicemoment.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yes, this is a weird divide.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I think it's a oh.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
You're bullish on that one.
This one's called Know yourOnion.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I mean, I think I know my onion, but you never
know how well you know youronion.
What is that?
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Like slang for drugs.
Know your, I don't know you'reonion.
What is that Like slang fordrugs?
Know your, I don't know.
Know your onion.
What is that?
Like a Puppers Testicular?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
cancer Downers.
Yeah, okay, he's closing thewindows.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Okay, it's kind of like A little bit.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
It sounds like a little bit.
It sounds like 60s music.
It does, it really does.
It's kind of like a retro.
It's coming full circle withthis, like Mamas and the Papas
shit, yeah, and the Doors really.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That was like a Ray Manzarek little thing.
They just did there, yeah, butthe Doors had more Cajones.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, the doors had more cojones.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
But you can still tell it was made like in the
2000s, despite yeah, tell it wasmade like in the 2000s, despite
they're taking flight yeah,flying somewhere.
(19:19):
It's like private school kidmusic.
Yeah, it is.
This is like private schoolstuff.
Natalie Corbin yeah, teen angst.
Yeah, teen angst.
Yeah, the melting sliding dice.
We've always been Okay, allright.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
This one is called Girl Informant.
We might have a sound clip ofthe inspirational girl in the
mirror saying she can do allthings great, do you believe?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Do you believe I can't come to Boston?
Well enough, well enough.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
This was one of my top three.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Girls are always using potions, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Girls, girls, girls, why don't you?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
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cocoa drink, all natural cocoabeans from the upper slopes of
Mount Nicaragua, no artificialsweeteners.
Happy, fun ball also Shout outto them, yeah.
Still legal in 16 states ofcourse, mountain range on fire.
(21:30):
That's right.
Now we're talking MountNicaragua, probably, so they get
the best mustard to cut yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Do you cut mustard, the mustard seeds?
Is that what?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
you think I think cutting the mustard.
It's a colloquialism.
I've never used it.
You think it'll cut the mustard?
It's like a yeah, cut themustard is a colloquialism.
I've never used it.
You think it'll cut the mustard?
It's like a.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, cut the mustard .
Oh, I think.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Nobody says that anymore.
Which coffee brand to make?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Oh that's.
Are we going to do that?
Are we going to just talk aboutshit?
Coffee brands.
Oh yeah, Are we going to doFolgers versus Chock Full of
Nuts versus?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Maxwell House oh, 8 o'clock.
8 o'clock blend is pretty good.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I'm going to go with that.
Yeah, it's a really good bandcall Sometimes.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I have it at 7, so don't tell them yeah, oh, of
course not.
You're only supposed to have itat that time.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Oh man.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yeah, okay, this is new slang.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
This is the hit.
It's about Al Kirk.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Yeah, it's about him being just disillusioned with
the whole scene, not him beingjust disillusioned with the
whole scene.
He wasn't partying with hisfriends.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
He wrote this before the shinti really formed.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
He really stretches out the words.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Like the word jumped, he's like jumped.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, shout out to the old and bony.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yeah, shout out to the old and bony.
Definitely we're thinking ofyou, right?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
now.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Just fill up those forms.
Yeah, mine.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I'll let them know.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
So if you just fill up those forms, yeah, if you
took to me like a Mine, makesure you don't eat the fruit
cocktail.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
It's a killer, lay off the macoco for a little Lay
off the macoco Lay off themacoco.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Don't forget to take your Eloquus on schedule.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You gotta hear this one song.
It'll change your life, I swear.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
We're listening to it .
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Natalie yeah, we're listening, jeez God.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Godspeed, all the beggars have done.
We're listening to it, Natalie,yeah we're listening.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Jeez God, for our lives to change.
I know, yeah, my life hasn'tchanged.
Yet we're almost.
We're over halfway through thesong.
I'm twiddling my thumbs.
Yes, I'm getting impatient.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I did just put in some questionable investments.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
We'll see how they turn out.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Blockbuster video A thousand.
Put a thousand on that, onethousand to Blockbuster 2001 was
their heyday.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
That was a rewinder.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
That was their heyday .
That was, you know, a rewinder.
That was a good job, that was arewinder, oh.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, what did that do you just put the tape in the
thing and wind it up, yeah, putit back, yeah, and you do it all
over again.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Pro-rate their fine to how much they didn't unwind.
If they didn't unwind the wholemovie, it was half of the tape,
it was a couple seconds, maybea couple pennies.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Oh, that's interesting.
I don't remember that.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Okay, you're fucking with me, All right, thanks.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
That was good.
I believed it yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
No that was a good one, the celibate life.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
The rewinder.
That was a good segue.
What is he?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
talking about here, no sex.
I think Looks good I like it orshe's not leading a celibate
life.
So I mean there's not a lot ofcharacter development in the
lyrics but I just think it'sabout.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Time to get creepy?
Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Like a girl that sleeps around a lot, isn't like
one of the girls in the middlewho are always first to fall off
?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I'll bring all my shoes and my glasses with me.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Shout out to Saul Rosenberg.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
This is like a bad Bob Dylan song or something,
yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I mean, there's some bad Bob Dylan songs.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
It sounds like a bad Beach Boys song to me and Bob
Dylan.
It's sort of like a crossbetween bad Bob Dylan and bad
Beach Boys.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Oh, my great good God .
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Gentlemen, your attention please.
Yes, this was called Girls onthe Wind.
Okay, we're peaking up here.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
That was a lovely night.
This is upbeat.
This is upbeat.
Yeah, I like the progression ofthe album.
It goes down, comes back up.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
It's like a tidal rabbit.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Came of age before time.
Yeah Right.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
It's like they're serpentine, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
it's like you go way up and you go way down and the
serpent and the rabbit justtangle.
That's right.
James is hanging out withfriends again.
(28:41):
I think he's good, yeah, yeah,this is a little bit more
optimistic.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
He's got a good wingman friend.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
All right, surrender, let's rock and roll All of you
guys.
It's a little raw, but it'sokay.
Barbershop, I'm crazy, it'sjust wild, weird, crazy, it's
(29:36):
just.
I like this one a lot.
I think it's mostly the synthysort of synth.
I like how it's a synth-y synth.
We dance, yeah, it's soprofound.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Yeah, leer to them.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
These babies can go off.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
A song of modern love .
Yeah, he's.
He's like oh shit, I just met agirl and I'm making a song
about it.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Yeah, all right, that was good.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Wait, just a minute.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Okay so there we go.
What's the next.
Okay, this is called yourAlgebra.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Your Algebra.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
This is kind of artsy .
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Would you listen to the gibberish they've got you
saying it's sad and alarming?
Ah, would you listen to thegibberish they've got you saying
it's sad and alarming.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
It is going to get sad and alarming pretty soon.
I think I can hear a cello inthe background.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Before you die, time to get creepy.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
This is creepy.
It's like this is barbershoprock.
Seriously, they're likeharmonizing in a bad way.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I love the shot of Raga.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Lost their eyes?
What?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Lost their eyes?
What?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Also, you have like really big eyes, and that freaks
me out sometimes.
Thank you, the fuck is hetalking about.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
You know what?
Shout out to Melanie Crandallon the cello, oh, and Niels
Galloway on the French horn oh,that's on a different song, but
yeah, that was Melanie Crandall.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Ah, would you listen to the gibberish they?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
That was my gibberish .
No, it's this whole album.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
It really is.
I wish there was more gibberish.
This whole album is gibberish,it really is.
I wish there was more characterdevelopment.
You got the chillins in thebackground.
Yeah, see, this is the indiegoodness that you like.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
That's right that you would expect, alright.
So what do we got going on Apast in a book, pressed in a
book.
Pressed in a book, I'm sorry,pressed in a book.
This is the song you did.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I don't know Past and pending.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Oh, past and pending.
Yeah, pressed in a book, Seethey're so they're all the same.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
They're all the same.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
It's all pressed past , yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Tyler Shoelace's runners Head up.
Yes, let's go.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Get that VO2 max up, keep going.
Is that a conditioner?
Yeah, it sounds like aconditioner.
It does VO2 max.
Yeah, it should be.
Oh, that's VO5.
That's Alberto VO5.
Yeah, it should be.
That's V05.
That's Alberto V05.
From back in the 60s, 70s, Idon't know Now, vo2 max is like,
(33:46):
it's a measurement of, like,cardio fitness.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Oh, it all depends like the more you run, the
higher the.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
VO2 index is Again.
We have the creepy referencehere.
There's a lot of them, butcreep good people out.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Yeah, I mean, when I creep people out, I want them to
be bad people.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Sometimes you're jogging in the corner.
You know that's how I.
I creep people out.
I want them to be bad people.
Sometimes you're jogging in thecorner.
You know that's how I creeppeople out.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Yeah, if anybody could get a good run and jog in
and mess with people randomly, Icould see you do it
Ridiculously short, runningshort.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, god, this is great.
Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah, shout out to the guy who runs around all over
town in a Speedo.
Yeah, Speedo guy.
Yeah, there's a Speedo guy inour city.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
That's why I don't, you know, hate on the shortness
of mind.
At least I'm not in a Speedo.
Close enough.
Short, but it's not speedo,that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
His, yours isn't In comparison.
In comparison, no, you do dothe short short.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
What the fuck is he talking about?
Yeah, I got the headphones on,I didn't hear it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'stechnical, it's pressing above.
Okay, I got bricks and Bricksin my pants.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
No bricks in the speedo.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
My legs are bricks.
Is that good?
Okay, I got it.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Okay, I still want to talk about the guy in the
speedo.
Oh, my great, good God, I stillwant to talk about the guy in
Speedo.
Well, I mean because I've come.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I think you need a separate podcast for that.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Yeah, no, when he's coming in the opposite direction
from me as I'm running, youknow his Speedo is like it's
like right there and you can'thelp.
But not like look right at it,you know it's like oh my great
good, it's not gay you know, Imean it's just you know, it just
is what it you know.
But he's got it nice and youknow like secured.
You know it's like he reallytakes because he runs in it
(36:09):
every single day.
He's famous for it, so it'sjust like be more fit.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
We settled down, just no, I mean he's a hell of a
runner, but yeah, he's just like.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
He'd be more fit.
No, I mean, he's a hell of arunner.
But yeah, he's got like.
He's kind of like he's like anathlete in a non-athlete's body.
I'll let it go.
He looks like Kevin Nealon fromSNL, Don't you think?
Oh?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
my God.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Think about Kevin Nealon in a Speedo running all
over town.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I'll bring all my shoes and my glasses with me,
just be watching.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yeah, yeah, this is a good song.
This is the past impending.
This is the song that you introto yeah, and I'm a fan.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Sad, sad Trumpet Held to the past.
Who were aware?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
of the pending Chill as the dawn breaks and finds us
up for sale.
Into the fog, another low roaddescending.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Away from the cold.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Such an indie build up there A little indie build up
Transition Indie build up thereA little transition.
I mean, this song is all vibes,it's an easy song.
It's just a vibe, that's what Ilike about his style.
(37:54):
It's not like a hard guitarplaying style.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
It's just simple lines intertwining yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, are you crying?
What's that, are you?
Speaker 4 (38:10):
crying.
Am I crying?
No, I'm not crying.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
It's just a taster's choice.
This is Taster Folgers.
I'm not crying.
It's just a taster's choice.
This is Folgers.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Team Folgers.
Really, not 8 o'clock Maybe weshould put 8 o'clock in a
different category than Folgers.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Chalk Full of Nuts is good For a cheap coffee.
Cafe Bustelo is good too,bustelo.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
That stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
It's jet fuel.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
It is.
It's a little harsh.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
It's a bit harsh.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
It's kind of harsh.
If your craft is running Feetto the sun Turns into wood
(39:19):
Dowsing an ancient door.
No one ever holds it.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Just loiter the whole day and lose yourself.
Yeah, just lose yourself whenhis cares and inhibitions will
be gone and lose yourself, andlose yourself, and lose yourself
Deep, deeper and deeper Waydown.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Oh, this is the French horn.
Seems good, I like it.
Shout out to Niels Galloway.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, Niels.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
I've heard the.
French horn's like a bitch toplay too.
It's like it almost likeactually hurts to play.
I bet.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Call the fire department.
This one's out of control.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Album cover is just like it's got a blue background
with some cotton, some cotton.
So what's this Taste?
Is choice between you guys,deeper and deeper Way down.
Is that it yeah?
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Okay, they ended it with the Like up Nice High note,
a high note.
They really did.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
It was kind of melancholy and it did back into
Happyville, yeah, I mean theykind of got lost with your
algebra and then they made upfor it at the end.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
So it's a good end on a high note.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Some foregone equations.
They couldn't show their workOkay.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
All right, yeah, all right.
I was going to ask you to saythe next couple plays up.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
We'll let it ride.
You know your onion.
Okay, I do.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
I do know my onion.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
It's purple onion.
They call it red, but it'sdefinitely purple.
I want to know your top threethough I'm going to go number
three One by one all day.
Yeah, Good choice.
Yeah, it just had that outroand it was like it came to party
(42:13):
, even though if it didn't wantto go to the party, it came.
And it was like came to party,even though if it didn't want to
go to the party, it came.
It came and it was like what'sup hi you know, so that's my
number three.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
No, it's a good song.
Man, my number three is gonnabe caring.
It is creepy.
Just because I mean just thefact that it has creepy in there
is, yeah, it's absolutely rightout of the gate.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Great song that's my number three Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
I'm going to go.
You know, geez, I'm going to goGirl on the Wing is number
number two and uh, yeah, I meanyeah, it had that synthy thing
in it and they really, you know,just dove out of the plane with
(43:07):
no parachute, on the solo.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
It was good, yeah, just it was groovy, I did, I dug
it.
That's my number two as well.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Nice Girl on the Wing .
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Girl on the Wing.
It has to be in there.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
It's a great song.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, james got a girlfriend.
He was like bam yeah, what's up, all right, my number one, I'm
going to Past and Pending.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Yeah, it's just yeah, that's the foreshad.
It's always up there, but youwent straight with number one.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Yeah, I'm going to say you know what?
That's my number one too.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
Just because it was mellow, it was a no-brainer.
It was just that French horn.
At the end it was beautiful itwas yeah.
It was good, I dug it, I dug ita lot yeah good album.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, yeah, good album.
Yeah, it was a good album.
You know good band good solidindie band.
You know good drummer good,look, great drummer and more to
come from this man.
I mean, they really do, I think, get better musically he adds
some more talent um they getbetter in and I think he's
receptive.
You know he's probably the headman, but he definitely right.
You know he definitely lets itin Right.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
But this album is important because it sets the
tone for what you hear later onin their careers.
This is a defining.
They make their mark on theworld.
It's their very first album.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
You don't think early 2000s with this?
I don't know, it's kind of thetime it was released.
Maybe doesn't match when it was.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Well because, it became popular in 2004 after
Garden State.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, it took a while .
Speaker 4 (44:45):
But the music, though , is what critics say is a
little bit ahead of its time,and I agree, maybe, yeah.
Yeah and it may have influencedother music after 2004.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
And mirroring times from past as well.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Well, yeah, a lot of Beach Boys is Pet Sounds-ish.
Yeah, not as good, but prettygood.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
You can't do better than that.
Yeah, I know it's hard to.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Yeah, it really is, but nevertheless it was
enjoyable.
It was a good time.
Yeah good time.
All right Woo, All right take.
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