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February 4, 2025 44 mins

Join Leander as he catches up with Jason Swann, discussing personal growth,
conservation work, and the challenges facing outdoor education and recreation providers. They explore the importance of reconnecting with nature, addressing inequities in access to green spaces, and the role of advocacy in creating change.

Episode Highlights:
[00:01:00] - Jason's current roles and work in conservation
[00:03:00] - Leander's experience at an eco dharma retreat
[00:09:00] - Discussion on ancestry work and spiritual connections
[00:14:00] - Jason's evolution in the conservation space
[00:17:00] - Statistics on park access disparities across the US
[00:22:00] - Challenges in community engagement and advocacy
[00:25:00] - Introduction to Rising Routes and its mission
[00:29:00] - Explanation of advocacy and its importance for nonprofits

Links Mentioned:
- Trust for Public Land www.tpl.org
- Rising Routes www.risingroutes.org
- African Ancestry (DNA testing service) www.ancestry.com

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