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April 10, 2025 53 mins

Topics covered in this episode 1. Why most school systems are working exactly as designed—and failing the kids who need them most (Bibi’s core argument) 2. How radical love can drive educational reform one child at a time (Bibi’s doctoral work) 3. What to ask when choosing a school for your neurodivergent child (Bibi’s practical lens) 4. Why parents and professionals must prepare for grief, discomfort, and community tension as part of systemic change (shared perspective) 5. The myth that showing data and results will change institutional minds (Bibi’s personal story of frustration)Dr. Bibi Pirayesh, educational therapist and founder of the Radical Learning Lab, brings her lens as a first-generation immigrant, cognitive science researcher, and school advocate. Her work sits at the intersection of brain development, politics, and systems reform. Topics 1 and 2 are deeply personal for Bibi—her early life shaped her drive to become the kind of advocate she wishes she’d had growing up. Topics 3 to 5 reflect her current focus on training educators and supporting families navigating oppressive or rigid school systems.We discuss how Bibi’s concept of radical love is built around four pillars—understanding, political engagement, community building, and self-care—and how applying them transforms not just children’s outcomes, but entire institutions.Claudie shares how this model resonates with what we see in neuroplasticity and sensory enrichment: that the discomfort of growth is real, and lasting change often starts with one brave act of belief in a child.⸻Episode Highlights00:24 – Kim tees up the core question: “Did something happen to little Bibi?” → sets the emotional tone of the episode07:02 – Claudie asks Bibi to share her background in brain research → Bibi describes her cross-disciplinary neuroscience and education journey15:01 – “Is this where you came up with the idea of radical love?” → Bibi ties her doctoral work to the beginnings of her framework23:15 – “They’re not designing [school systems] to foster critical thinking.” → Kim underscores the central critique24:17 – “Let’s hear a story… and use it to teach us about the four pillars of radical love.” → transition to the emotional spine of the episode26:23 – Bibi tells the story of “Billy” and the Einstein School → “He learned to read in six months. They’d said it would happen on its own.”30:21 – Pillar 1: Understanding → “We must unpack our own histories and the ideologies of the systems we work in.”34:28 – “Do you have a manual for parents?” → Kim asks for takeaways38:02 – Pillar 2: Political engagement → “Every case should be seen as a catalyst for systemic change.”43:07 – Pillar 3: Community → “When you work in community, you have to make room for grieving.”46:47 – Pillar 4: Self-care → “This is ongoing, forever work. You have to stay the course.”52:00 – Kim lightens the mood: “We’ve used a lot of big words… is there a PDF?” → Bibi shares her Radical Love Reset guide52:49 – Closing gratitude: “Thank you for being a fighter… and standing for all of us.”

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