January 17, 2024 • 59 mins
We are back for episode 11! We apologize for the long-awaited delay, but we are back with our healing content! We are kicking the New Year off right with talking about "awareness" in mental health awareness. We dropped a question at the end of our talk so let us know your answers in the comments!Please like/share/subscribe & let us know if you have any questions for us in the comments below!
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What's good, what's good.
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Thank you for tuning in.
This is the healing club podcast.
Sorry, it took us a while to come back.
You know, we have lots to live.
My boy was sick, man.
I was down for the count for a good while.
I'm sorry about that, everyone.
But I am back now.
And we are here to talk to you guys about a very important topic in mental health these
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days.
Very important.
It's about awareness in mental health.
See, we always talk about mental health awareness.
We're going to get into what is awareness.
But you know, before we get down doing that, we just want to reach out to those that are
out there hurting right now.
I feel like they don't have a way out.
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There is a hotline out there.
Professionals on the other side that can help you.
The hotline is 988.
That is the new suicide hotline.
Three digit number.
Funny thing is, you can text it now, too.
Yes, sir.
And as always, man, it's all confident, too, man.
So you ain't got to worry about your business getting out there, that the people you don't
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want to know.
Because honestly, it's uncomfortable.
You're going through something and other people know you're going through it.
Whatever it can be, definitely uncomfortable.
But just texting or calling that hotline.
Or maybe I'm sure you can even email that hotline if you Google it.
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But it's all confidential.
You ain't got to worry about nobody being in your business.
Save yourself.
Like everyone is special.
Save yourself, please.
Life is worth living.
So what I want to open up with is a very interesting statistic about suicide in 2023.
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Apparently, we hit a new record, which is not a good thing, bro.
So death by suicide count is more than 50,000 in 2023.
The crazy thing is, like in 2021, the number was at 48,183.
You know, a little bit more accurate.
Then in 2022, it climbed up to 49,449.
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Like we just keep climbing.
That's insane, bro.
And for those of y'all who think that that's not a big number, right?
Count to 50,000.
Right.
Go ahead, write zero on a piece of paper and write all the following numbers up to 50,000.
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That's how many lives we talking about right now.
50,000.
That's a lot.
50,000 loved ones, bro.
Like the people that have passed on, like those loved ones, man, like they were loved
by people.
Yeah.
Like even though they didn't feel like it.
Yeah.
Like somebody's son or daughter, brother or sister, aunt or aunt, you know, maybe somebody's
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father or mother.
Husband, wife type shit.
Yeah.
Uncle, nephew, anything like friend, best friend.
So you ever had a friend that did that shit?
I have actually.
Really?
Yeah.
This kid, Javon Higgs, I don't remember if I spoke about this before, but I feel like
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I did.
Maybe I did.
I was in the Navy.
I had this mentee assigned to me, Javon Higgs, whatever.
He didn't want to be in the Navy.
He made that clear, like in his actions.
And he even told me that verbally, whatever.
But I kind of took him under my wing.
I was trying to tell him, you know, bro, just you signed up for four years, due to four
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years, you know, be a man of your word, you know, fulfill everything that you promised
to do when you signed that contract.
And brother, damn bounce, bro.
Get your benefits out of that.
Be good.
But he ended up causing trouble and they ended up just go ahead and kicking him out.
And then like I think within days, bro, like we had a meeting like all of us together and
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they announced that he had killed himself.
That's tough.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
What would you all have known that like people were hurting like this?
It is like, you know, if you didn't have the awareness.
So that's why I want to bring I want to bring up awareness and people like I want I want
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people to know that these things are happening like this is real life.
Literally over 50,000 people killed themselves last year.
That's the truth.
And it happened.
That's the statistics there.
That's a lot, bro.
A lot.
So with awareness, I also want to bring it up, you know, within within mental health.
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So mental health awareness means knowing and recognizing different aspects of a person's
mental well-being like disorders or and or related problems.
You know, it's about sharing information, helping people understand and talking openly
to overcome misunderstandings, stereotypes and things that make it hard to get help.
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I feel like, you know, it's hard for people to actually reach out to people.
And I wonder why.
Like we we can talk about the different aspects right now, honestly.
So one of the aspects of mental health awareness is recognizing emotions.
You know, you got to understand knowledge, different feelings and emotions that impact
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their mental well-being, like sadness, stress or anxiety.
Have you?
For a good example.
It's about me, too.
You ever worked around a toxic person, bro?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Uh huh.
Like and like, can you feel like like that toxicity just impact everyone else around
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you?
Facts.
Facts.
Yes, bro.
I agree.
A hundred percent like I'm not going to lie.
That was me.
That was me at one point.
Well, you was that toxic individual you left, bro.
When you left and kept sending me to here and there and everywhere, I got tired.
I got tired all day.
These rogers started being toxic to them.
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Yeah.
But like at the time I was going through so much stress and anxiety.
Yeah.
She was crazy, bro.
Like and at the time I couldn't understand it either.
I was just so mad.
Yeah.
So my toxicity was just spreading.
But that's because, you know, the job you was in, it wasn't like, I guess, didn't already
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really care about each other.
It was all about are you producing what we're requiring from you?
That's man was what it was about.
So you know, I'm saying so I can get I get why you said you were stressed or whatever,
because ain't nobody thinking about, you know, all these people come up to you saying, do
this, do this.
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I need you to do this.
I need this from me.
Right.
And not one of them persons, bro, taking in consideration.
The stress that you taken on or whatever to make sure all this stuff get done over time,
brother, I can eat it.
Yeah.
The military was never a nurturing environment, bro.
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If I have if I was just a smarter man, if I could just knew what emotions I were feeling,
I probably you know, I probably didn't have to self-destruct.
But I didn't have that I didn't have that that that type of foresight at the time.
So what for?
You got to understand what emotions you're feeling at the time.
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If you are a toxic person, you got to understand why you know what it is making you toxic.
You're not toxic for no reason.
I don't feel like that's a thing.
You know, what happened is to like, you know, why?
Why?
Why are you going through these happy feelings?
You got to remember them.
You got to recognize them because you want to go through them again.
Yeah.
You want to fill them.
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So what awareness, recognizing emotions, know the emotions that you're feeling, you know,
know what you put yourself through, you know, like I said, like you want to remember happy
feelings.
So you recognize that and you'll remember it and you'll try to emulate that for the
rest of your life.
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A good example would be love on a case session.
So not the part chilling at the part.
It's such a good feeling like I like going there.
And I want to recreate those feelings like any time I go out there, like that.
Recognize those emotions.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I get what you're saying.
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Or let's say you get into an argument with your female because of a certain emotion that
you portrayed.
You don't want to portray that emotion again because it hurts a girl.
So you remember that.
You remember, you know, what one needs to go through that argument.
So like that, you learn as a human being.
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Yeah.
You know, I actually do like this topic awareness because like for me, one thing I needed to,
you know, be aware of is times when I get angry or something like the anger or frustrated,
you know, then or back then, you know, before, you know, we started doing all this mental
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health stuff and I started really learning stuff back then.
It was like, no, I get angry.
It's just, you know, your mind is different.
You think and differently.
Right.
But now, you know, the next time you get angry, you know, think to yourself, I'm angry.
Right.
Because you think to yourself, then you'll be like, OK, I'm angry.
I need to call that cool down so I can think properly.
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I won't do nothing.
You know, make some impulsive mistake or anything like that.
Yeah.
Like what are the things you would do if you were angry?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what are you capable of?
You know what you're capable of doing when you're angry.
So that's good on you for recognizing that.
Yeah.
And that for like you can use that for like any emotion, you know, sad, angry, frustrated,
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whatever it is you're going through, you know, be aware of what you're going through.
Right.
And that way you don't kind of claw your mind with these wrong thoughts or whatever.
And then you mess around and do something that you don't regret or something.
True.
True.
That's real.
So another aspect and like awareness is talking openly, like which we do right now, like,
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you know, encouraging open conversations about mental health, without feeling ashamed or
judged and creating an environment where everyone feels comfortable discussing their feelings.
Like we do that right now.
Like we try to create that environment for everyone.
Like it's not about your feelings.
Have you ever been at a point where you've locked yourself up with all your emotions?
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And I know all young men have done it too, because we were taught to always not show
emotions.
Yeah.
It shows weakness.
Just shut up, get up and continue going, you know, whatever is hurting you, you know, swallow
it, let it go.
Yeah.
And from where we used to work, you know, our old environment, you know, we just have
to keep on pushing, yeah, or that don't be a bitch.
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Don't be a bitch.
Yeah, exactly.
Get it done type shit.
Yeah.
So yeah, a lot.
I feel like a lot of I feel like I struggle with it too, like struggled with it when not
talking about it openly.
I used to keep things bottled up and I used to do it everywhere, even with relationships
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too.
I went I went to my girl at the time, now my ex, you know, what I was mad about or what
I was upset about.
Catch it, bottle up and I took it out on her.
The top just blew off.
Yeah, bro.
Top just fucking blew off because I wasn't talking about it.
And I know and I know a lot of like a lot of young men struggle with this talking openly.
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Yeah, I think like with this now, yeah, you know, this super modern world we and we live
we are living in now.
It's like I don't know people judge before they, I guess, consider whatever.
Like that's like you telling me are you hurt or whatever about, you know, let's say your
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past breakup or something.
Right.
Let's say you just get into a breakup and you come to me and want to like vent to me
and I'm listening to you pour out the fillers.
I'm like, you a bitch.
I mean to say that out loud, but you a b word.
Right.
My man, quit being soft.
Right.
Now, as a good friend, you know, at least I can do is listen.
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And then, you know, it's all a process, you know, that you're going to have to go through
to, you know, I'm saying to get back, you know, squared away mentally or whatever.
Right.
And I'm going to just have to, you know, trust or not trust you.
Well, trust you obviously, but be there for you and, you know, help you get back to where
you was, get you out that hole.
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So it's all about empowering each other.
Exactly.
I love it when you do that, bro.
I ain't gonna lie.
I love it when he does that, bro.
Yeah.
Like I sit here and I explain, bro, like a paragraph because I can't think of the one
word that really will sum up what I'm saying that after I'm done saying it, he'll say something
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like that, empower each other.
That's what I was saying, bro.
Appreciate it.
Empowerment, baby.
I want to add on to empowerment, though.
Like if only young men these days would empower each other instead of I hate this word.
I think it's so funny.
Honestly, don't haunt me for it either.
I think it's so funny that people have ops.
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You grew up with this.
How is he your opposition?
How is it your enemy?
This was your friend in middle school or elementary school type shit.
Like I don't understand.
No, I don't.
I mean, that honestly, like that comes from just like people looking up to other people
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that use that type of language and it just carried down and spread it.
That damn rap music ops.
We all got an op in common.
Deaf.
Deaf is enough.
And taxes, that's an op.
And Karen's.
I'm worried about the dude down the street because he didn't choose it, but he was happened
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to be born and raised on that block.
So now I got it.
Now he an op.
Right?
Like nobody choose to be born nowhere or whatever.
So I get what you're saying.
Yeah, your only op should be Karen, that target.
That should be your only op.
The line say what?
12 items or less.
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You got 26 things in your basket.
Like get out the way, bro.
Your op should be the DMV worker with all that attitude.
That should be your op.
Your homie down the block should not be your op.
I don't understand that.
Y'all grew up with these people, man.
I wish I just talked to each other honestly.
Not for real, like literally, bro, with the rate we going at, instead of like, I'm just
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referring to like, you know, like gang and like gun violence, that type of stuff.
But instead of like doing all of that, bro, if you just talk like or I'm pretty sure it
would be a vicious debate, whatever.
But you know, nobody getting shot, nobody getting killed.
I'm saying work it out that way.
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You know what I'm saying?
And then the generation after you will have to go through none of that.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And it keep carrying on.
You know what I'm saying?
So definitely talking is better than they killing each other.
I just want death to stop.
Like period that that suicide number disgust me.
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I was like over 50 and that's male and female and the US.
Yeah.
OK, so yes.
Yeah.
So 50,000 of our people.
This insane, bro, like.
And then.
I will say I didn't even talk about homicide.
I know.
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Yeah.
But speaking of awareness again, right.
If you know, you got, you know, you know, them feelings where, you know, somebody's not
all right or, you know, maybe a friend or family, family member showing you signs that
they might not be happy with life.
You know what I'm saying?
And, you know, just having that or just using that skill because we all got it.
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You know, we just have to use it, that awareness.
You know what I'm saying?
If you see something like that, reach out and try to see what's up to help them out
if you can.
I know a lot of times like when it comes to like these, you know, the people that's committed
suicide, you know, you often hear like people saying like, you know, they didn't show any
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signs of this, this and that.
So sometimes they can be kind of good at like really showing or portraying that they are
OK.
Well, that's the people I want to reach out to.
Yeah.
Those like the ones, the ones that are showing the like national signs.
Yeah.
The ones that are actually hurting me down.
I want to reach out to down.
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Yeah.
Like we all know, we all know like signs and we all know how to prevent, you know, suicide
through all through all the education and resources.
Right.
I want to reach out to the people right now that actually hurt.
And that's what this is all about.
Nah, for sure, bro.
That hotline is available.
You know, we own pretty much all platforms.
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You can direct messages or whatever you're going through.
And I promise you, bro, we will respond and try to help you the best way we can.
I don't care where you at.
What part of the country you in or where you at in the world.
To be honest with you, we can help.
Yeah, we try our best.
I'll tell you this right now.
We are your friend.
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Automatically, automatically.
You're watching this podcast right now.
We are your friend.
Oh, God, consider us a friend so you can talk to us as a friend.
So we're going into the next aspect of mental health awareness, learning and sharing.
I think this is another thing that a lot of people have issues with, like continuously
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learning and sharing information about mental health to help others understand and know
where to find support.
Resources.
Yeah.
How much do people know about mental health?
Like awareness?
Not much.
I don't think they know much.
We try our best to spread as much as we can.
We are a resource, but at the same time, we're also learning, too.
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I think, you know, just to expand on learning and sharing, like me and Sean talked about
this before, you know, especially, you know, how we always target family values, right?
Like those experiences that, you know, that each and every one of us go through, you know,
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sometimes or a lot of times when you share that experience, you can actually can help
somebody, right?
Because you didn't already been through this, right?
And there is somebody after you, you know, that is going to go through it, too, because
we all go through the same things.
Yeah.
Similar things, just different.
We want to learn from your peers.
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Exactly.
Yeah.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Like learn from your peers.
You can also learn from us because we tell our stories to y'all.
Like we're a resource.
And as far as support is, you can find support from your friends and family.
Like we preach on family values a lot.
And if you can't find nobody, 988, they're going to support you, don't care who you are,
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what you going through, you know, what you didn't been through.
They're going to help you.
In fact, they are professionals.
This is what they live for.
You know what I'm saying?
So you always got a resource.
You know what I'm saying?
If you ain't got no family, no friends, whatever, you ain't got a dog, nothing, 988 will help
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you.
988.
They're making an inbox for us.
Like just a special inbox just for just to talk to people.
And now that'd be dope.
Yeah.
I'm going to do something for that.
So yeah, expect that everyone, because we're going to have a special open chat box and
we've got a private chat box too.
Yeah.
And you know, maybe if you want us to talk about it on the podcast, you know, hear real
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time, you know, feedback from us, it'd be anonymous, you know.
Yeah.
It'd be anonymous.
Well, nobody has to know who we are talking about.
Yes, sir.
But yeah, learning and sharing, like the best way to like, I feel like the best way to learn
is from peers, learn from people, look at people to, you know, be observant.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Like when people talk, actually listen.
You actually, yeah, that's literally how you learn from people.
Yeah.
Like listen to it, somebody's telling you, like that's how you, yeah.
That is how you learn.
Actually listen.
Like I know people say, oh, I'm listening.
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Like actually listen and like dissect what they're saying.
Actually try to understand what they're saying.
You learn a lot.
Yeah, for sure.
Because people say a lot.
But you know, you never know, you know, who you're talking to, honestly, you never know
what they're saying either.
Unless you actually listen.
For sure, like you would be surprised what an eight year old would be able to teach you.
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That type of shit bro.
Like you will be surprised.
Because kids are a lot smarter than you think.
Just because they got a snot bubble and you know, they need to change the diaper.
Don't mean they can't teach you that.
They'll teach you something.
They will teach you something.
And they always honest too, you know, like an eight year old straight tell you, run everybody,
like your breast thing.
Your breast thing.
You fat.
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You can't even tell.
Yeah, they'll tell you.
Bro, I remember I put my hair up in a ponytail and my girl's niece, she said, you look like
a girl.
I said, hey, yo.
You don't say that in front of everybody.
Oh God, bro.
In front of the family.
I'm like, yo, chill.
Yo.
But yeah, man, nah, listen.
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Actually listen, bro.
Like, you know, talk to people.
Be open, I guess.
So another, we can, yeah, man, we got, we got more aspects into mental health.
So mental health awareness is a big topic.
No, it is.
Another, another aspect we're going to get into is ending stigma.
So challenging and stopping negative beliefs or stereotypes about mental health.
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So everyone feels accepted and supported no matter their struggles.
So what's a good example of people talking shit about mental health?
Talking mental health.
Like, I think we can use that as an, and a good example of how it'd be like a lot of
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the homeless, low key downtown San Diego.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
Only, and I say that because like, because I actually met one guy, Ashley, I think it
was out of McDonald's.
I was coming through the drive-through and he was like sitting at the end of that drive-through
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with like a sign or whatever.
And so I was like, you know what?
I'm going to do something different today.
I bought him a double cheeseburger.
Right.
Go out to him and give him the double cheeseburger.
He like, oh man, thank you.
God bless you.
You know, you such a good person, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
You know, no worries, man.
It's all good.
Whatever.
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And then he ended up telling me like random, he's like, man, you know, man, I used to be
at the top ranks in the Navy, man.
And you know, and you know, I feel like crap.
You know, people just walked past me, you know, cause he had on, he did have on like
a Navy uniform, the originals are like the blue, like the blue camos.
The blue ones.
Yeah.
Before the green camos he had on the blue camos.
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Oh my shit.
Yeah.
He was just kind of like telling me his story or whatever.
And then, you know, one incident where he messed with some drugs, you know, he lost everything
or whatever.
And I think the mental struggle in that is, you know, you got people that look at homeless,
like just pieces of, you know, you know what, you know, you don't really know what people
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then been through or, you know, who these people were, whatever, you know what I'm saying?
He probably live in the rest of his life, just regretting mistakes.
Man, I hate the aspect of homelessness because we're their family members, bro.
I always think that, bro, I'm like, dang, y'all ain't got nobody.
And I'm sure it's, if some of them, or a lot of them family may have tried to help, but
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it's one of them situations where I can't help you.
Yeah.
I can't help you because you don't want to help yourself.
That type shit.
Yeah.
So I feel like, I feel like family members should still try to reach, there's no reason
your uncle, your auntie, your father, your mother, your brother, your sister should be
out on the streets, bro.
Your kids.
There is no reason they should be out on the street.
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Somebody should reach out.
Not definitely.
Like, I don't care, man.
How are there homeless people when that, when people have family members?
I don't know.
It's a cold world.
But that shit is so cold.
That is negative.
Facts.
Like, no, man.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't, I don't like the negative belief behind homelessness.
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Like, no, that's not cool.
Yeah.
Because they're people, man.
You know?
Yeah.
Everyone's a human being, man.
Everyone is a special.
If, if, if the homeless were to be given a chance, because I mean, come on, bro.
Like not, like we, like America, like you, I want to say it won't get an equal chance,
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but let's be, let's be real.
No.
Like, like depending on your birth, bro, where you were born, yeah.
You know, your ethnicity, you know, where you were raised that it's, bro, it's like
completely random, bro.
It's like going to the casino, bro.
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You know, you play the slash, pull the handle and it's just a bunch of it.
Stop where it stopped.
You know, nobody got control over that.
Yeah.
And not everyone was born equal.
Exactly.
That's that type of shit too.
Exactly.
But I will say, I think that a lot of the opportunities for whatever it is that you
want to do in life are there, but the road for each person is different.
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Depending, like I said, depending on, you know, uh, where, you know, what color you
are, uh, you know, um, where you were raised that a rose can be just a lot harder or it
could be a lot easier for you.
It's out of your control.
Be honest.
Yeah.
If I'm just saying if homeless people were given an equal chance, that shit.
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Like if, okay, if we just disregarded the fact that they are homeless.
Okay.
Well, like what, what is the negative belief behind homelessness anyway?
Oh, they're, they're druggies.
Oh, drug use.
Yeah.
Alcoholics.
Every time you give them money, every time you give them money, they just going to go
spend it on a beer or something to get wasted.
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There's some reason to have such a bad image to them.
Yeah.
But that's not the case for everybody.
I'm pretty sure the majority are willing to get, are willing to take the help and get
back on it.
Yeah.
We need to be, we need to be more forgiving.
Yeah.
We need to be more forgiving people.
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Yeah.
11 too.
So what's loving?
Like that goes into a different aspect of, uh, of mental health awareness, support and
kindness.
So being there for friends, family, or anyone struggling with that.
Okay.
I'm good.
Yeah.
Okay.
Any who, so what's the port and kindness, you know, being there for friends, family,
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or anyone struggling with mental health challenges by offering support, kindness and understanding.
I'm not cutting that out though.
That's fine.
But just being there for one another, man, like being a friend, being, being a human
being, like we talk about it a lot, like being like have conversations with people, be open,
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talk to people, bro, like support and kindness.
Yeah.
And for me, let me, it's something I was just thinking about when it comes to kindness,
uh, just kindness specifically, they don't, you don't have to know that person.
To be kind.
Kindness is kindness, like period, you know?
So like, you don't have to know this person to do something kind for them.
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So I mentioned that, yeah.
Cause I've, I've seen a lot of times where it was like, I hope I don't know him.
But yeah, like I just said, anyone struggling, like we're talking about mental health, struggling
with mental health challenges.
Like shit, you see someone, you see someone, you know, crying, crying on a bench, boo hoo.
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Oh no, my girlfriend broke up with me.
Oh, sorry.
Let me be more serious.
He's laughing at his act then, not the situation.
Okay.
I'm trying to go Hollywood.
I live so close.
That's time.
That's time to be A list.
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But like, like supporting kindness being weak, the hand that reaches out, I guess being the
bigger person.
Has there ever been a situation where you could have been the bigger person where you
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could have, where you could have been a, like a kind of nurturing person, but I said you
were the complete opposite.
Yeah.
I think that actually happened.
I have to happen a few times.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Lucky I regret it.
I wish I could have lucky.
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Cause you never know a person might need to be in need of something good, you know, kindness,
you know, send that to live somebody hard, especially if you don't know that person and
it's just like one of the random acts of kindness for now.
Yeah.
I'm saying help people, you know, really, you know, you'll feel a lot taller, you know
what I mean?
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Random acts of kindness.
I've gotten better with that, bro, because another, another thing that I feel like young
man struggle with is being receptive of other people's emotions.
Like being sensitive to it, like, like not like sensitive in the sense of like knowing,
knowing that you feel what somebody is feeling.
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Say like you feel like shit, you're really not showing it, but I can feel your vibe type
shit and I really want to reach out to you and talk to you about it because you know,
it makes me sad too type shit.
Instead, you know, instead of like, like, like young men would try to like, like me,
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I'll try to be the tougher guy and then try to be an asshole like, you know, why you killing
my vibe type shit?
Yeah.
But me now being the bigger person, I can, I can reach out to you and be like, hey bro,
I see you going through something, you know, let's, let's talk about it.
You know, we're not going anywhere unless we talk about it too type shit because you
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know, that's how much I care.
Yeah.
Be willing to go ahead and let or help them, you know, or relieve what they got built up,
whatever, you know, be a, a safe, a safe zone or come, you know, be offered.
What do you call it?
Like a sanction, like a sanctuary or something like that.
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A safe space, safe space, a safe space.
There it is.
There it is.
Safe space.
You can be a safe space for somebody.
Could be a safe space for somebody.
Yeah.
That's very important.
Like what random next to kindness, man.
That's also very important.
Yeah.
Like I didn't know how important it was to just, just do random things.
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Like, you know, I could, I could just cook breakfast.
I didn't know where from my shorty or, or, you know, get, get a little gift because I'm
not, I'm not using something at the crib anymore.
Yeah.
That's, you know, that's a lot of things back then that like, like you would, like it was
common like we are, we are heard it before, you know, you see it old lady or old man struggling
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to walk across the street.
You know, you get out your car and you know, you help them across the street.
That was like a lot of kindness things that they did in the past.
Nowadays you don't see that me personally.
Hang on.
I've never done it honestly, but if it was about to see it, I've never seen it either.
Yeah.
I'm sure.
Yeah.
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I've never seen it either, but today if the situation occur, I would, I would do that.
Yeah.
I'm sure that, that, you know, oh man or old lady would very much appreciate that.
Nah, for sure, bro.
All right.
But so we're always talking about helping each other, but you know, we never, we never,
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we don't focus on numero uno or enough.
So we're closing for our last aspect of awareness and mental health, self care.
So we're going to our last aspect of mental health awareness.
You know, we don't talk about ourselves enough.
So we're going into self care, but understanding the importance of, of taking care of our own
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mental health through practices like mindfulness, relaxation, seeking help when needed.
That's a fact, bro.
This one is a, is a big one.
Like, and I even, I talked to my shorty about this too.
Cause she wanted these or she not, excuse me.
She not more of one of these people.
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She more of one of the people that's like, you know, no matter what, she always put other
people first and I always have herself on like the back burner or whatever.
And I told her, you know, you know, cause I think she looked at it as being selfish
sometimes cause you do see people like that who just, you know, conceded in themselves
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and just straight selfish.
Everything's about me, me, me, me, me.
But yeah, but every now and then it is okay, bro.
And I think healthy to give yourself, you know, love and you know what I'm saying?
To treat yourself, you know what I'm saying?
For cause you know, we all go through things and overcome things and sometimes we forget
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that, you know, it's no better.
Thanks than to thank yourself.
You know what I'm saying?
So I definitely think this is a big one for us.
One of the aspects of awareness self care.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We, we don't, I mean, I say we're selfish people, but like, we don't look out for our
mental health enough.
I feel like when we struggle, we, we try to, we try to just stuff it through.
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Yeah.
That leads that.
I feel like that leads to like the worst thing imaginable, which is suicide.
Yeah.
I feel like we don't take care of ourselves enough, bro.
Like no facts.
Like you need to give yourself credit.
Like I don't care how a little of something you dig that was good or whatever.
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Like, you know, however old you is I'm, I'm 25, you know, that's I've been under there
25 years, every single year I had to overcome something.
Right?
You know what I'm saying?
It's okay to give back to yourself.
You should.
No, for sure.
Give, give back to yourself.
Love yourself more.
If you yourself, you know, you need help.
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That's okay.
That's always okay.
Yeah.
I had therapy.
So I had to go see shrink myself a couple of times and it works.
Well even though it feel like, probably they just asked the right questions.
That's all it really takes.
Honestly to get something out of you is the right question.
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All I learned from it was all I needed to do was talk to somebody about it.
You just needed to talk to somebody to listen to somebody.
Just listen to me.
I'm going through these things and nobody's helping me.
Help me.
Oh my God.
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Cause you know, the way I look at my life, you know, my life or where everybody's life
is essentially a book.
My life, my life for real.
So each year is like a chapter in, and, and, you know, chapters, you know, you're going
to have your, you know, these obstacles or whoever or whatever that, uh, entity, entity
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is that you're going to have to overcome or whatever.
And you know, every time you do that, you know, you should give yourself credit, you
know, your self recognition.
No, for sure.
Yeah.
And definitely if you go on through something is on you to find help for you.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
I know like that is, that is the world.
No, you have to look out for yourself and nobody knows what's going to do it for you.
My God.
That's, that is the tough truth.
And I know, I know how much we, like some of us need support.
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Like I, I, I need help with this.
I need, I need, you know, whatever.
Cause I know some people that are like dependent for like, they, like they just need somebody
to do things for them.
You gotta learn to be self efficient, self aware, take care of yourself.
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Be knowledgeable.
Like no, like no things like don't, don't be ignorant.
Like you can't, you can't go into this world without knowing anything in this world.
Like, like simple things like how to change a tire type shit.
You know, do I pay taxes or what am I going to cook for dinner tonight?
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Type shit.
Do I know how to dry type shit?
I don't know.
I don't know now, but like gotta know how to take care of yourself in this world.
Also take care of your mental health.
That's that's so important.
Know that there are resources, know that there are support out there.
Yeah, it should be.
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Yeah.
Mental health is precious, you know, to each and every one of us.
And you know, and just this topic we spoke on today, you know, hopefully I could take
a lot of this and, you know, in implementing your lives, your daily lives, just mental
health awareness, that's every single thing you being aware of yourself, your surroundings,
the people around you, you know what I'm saying?
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Awareness is literally like pretty much everything to be honest.
Like us as young men, we try to be very aware anyway of our surroundings because we have
these so-called ops.
Let's try to focus more on that awareness on our mental health.
Yeah, for sure.
Because there is a lot of ops against our mental health.
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So the only option is the demons in your head right now.
For real.
A lot of our ops, you know, is ourselves.
Like, that'd be like the main that is yourself.
Yeah, our ops is ourselves.
It's like, well, we will do it to ourselves before we do it to anybody else.
And with that, I want to ask you guys, all you people, all you healing people out there,
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a very important question you can answer to us in the comments or whatever, or in our
IG.
Engage with us.
We actually want to hear your answer.
But this is the question.
What's one thing you wish more people understood about mental health based on your own experiences
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or observations?
I should go.
Yeah, definitely.
Hit us up with that answer, bro.
You want to hear it.
What's one thing you wish more people understood about mental health based on your experiences
or observations?
I'm on my Dr. Umar.
I almost puked, but let me stay focused.
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I almost knew, but let me see.
That was like a blooper.
I don't know.
I'm going to go and I like it.
It's funny.
Hmm.
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But yeah, I want to hear your answer.
What's one thing that you wish more people understood about mental health based on your
own experiences or observations?
You might have a good grasp of mental health based on what we've talked about.
I hope we've been very educational about it.
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But all right.
Man, you know what?
It's been a minute.
We've only talked about mental health.
We finally got time to talk about some other stuff.
It's a mystery what we're about to talk about.
It's time that we bring awareness onto Mr. Jeffrey Eskin and his little list.
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Oh my God.
Oh my God, bro.
Let me just say this.
For every person, whether you male or female, you was on that list.
You're sick, bro.
If this is true, you're sick, bro.
Just vile.
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You're like the bottom of the chum bucket, bro.
Disgusting, bro.
And I honestly hope whatever consequences and repercussions come with this, I hope you
get it all, bro.
Like bottom of the prison.
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This list is so crazy.
Like die, come back to life and do time until you die again.
Honestly, you hear that?
Chris Tucker, Stephen Hawking, Stephen Hawking running right now.
Stephen Hawking.
Oh, and Bruce Willis, Cameron Diaz, Bruce Andrew, Bosta Clint.
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It's a hell of doctors on that list, too.
Detectives, bro.
Yeah, that detective and police chief.
Oh, you know the one.
You know the one.
You know what's going to hurt me, bro?
Leonardo DiCaprio, bro.
That hurt me, bro, because none of them will be in a position that they in if it wasn't
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for us.
Right.
We, you know, we went out and bought them clips and went to the theaters, you know,
paid them money for them tickets or whatever.
And think about how many times you rented a movie or how many times you didn't went
to the movie theater, you know, add all of that up.
We all invested a lot of money ourselves into these people, you know, because far as we
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was concerned, you know, they was, you know, good entertainers, you know, they present
themselves on camera as good people, you know, loving people.
We donate to charity, this, this and that.
But you want Jeffrey Epstein's list?
How many celebrities is it?
I found thousands of celebrities and one hundred and forty seven of y'all was on it out of
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those thousands and thousands of celebrity.
One hundred and forty seven was on it, bro.
Y'all are guilty, bro.
Yeah, I'm guilty, bro.
And the fuck that thing is.
I know, I know I'm going, bro.
No sir, go ahead.
The messed up thing is, bro, like when it comes to Hollywood, bro, like them dark rumors,
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you always hear that be like, damn, this is kind of dark.
You ever notice, bro, that the room has been there since the beginning, bro, like.
Like years, like I'm talking like 50 years prior to we was born, them rumors was there.
And it at this point, you know, who can keep a rumor alive that long unless it's true,
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bro?
This is sick, bro.
You're all sick, bro.
Straight up.
You want you want to know something is that so it's supposed to be one hundred and fifty
people.
But they don't do it.
One hundred and forty seven names.
I wonder what the other three are doing.
So Jeffrey actually got a suicide.
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But how true is that?
How true?
Cap, if you got a mind and you think about it, this man got caught up doing one of the
most nastiest things in history.
That's what he was going down for.
And not only that, everybody that was on that list, there are people that the public look
up to or whatever, people in power and shit like that.
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They couldn't afford him being alive.
And then, you know what I'm saying?
And then confessing to all of this and point out all the people that was there, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm sure it's people who probably was involved that is probably somebody we really
look up to and don't believe that they would actually do something like this.
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But then again, we see who on the list.
That's what we thought about these people.
You know what I'm saying?
And why would they ever let that get out?
I believe that they killed that man, bro.
Honestly, because who are those three people?
Even if you was one of those people in power and you know that this is the only man right
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here that can put us all down.
Right.
Let's get ready, huh?
And nobody ever know.
It's got to be those three people that were left off the list, bro.
Think so?
I think so.
There's something fishy about that.
I'm going to look into it.
It's definitely something fishy going on.
I'm going to look into it.
I want to look into the police officers that were around at the time, like the officers
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that like the guards.
I want to look up like the deaths around the time at that prison.
I'm going to look into it.
I'm going to look into it.
They're going to hunt me.
Me and Sean believe in fairness.
Whatever things we didn't do wrong, we didn't have to face the consequences.
Yeah.
Right.
I want them to face the consequences, too.
That's fair.
I meant to.
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I meant to this kind of drama, too.
I like it.
I like it.
That's fair, bro.
That was just sick.
That was, man.
It's sick, bro.
No, I'm joking.
Damn, Jeffrey Epstein.
That's crazy.
But it is what it is.
Stephen Hawking?
No.
Stephen Hawking.
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That's funny.
Stephen Hawking, bro.
What's he got there with the voice box?
With his.
And that's the.
Boy, that is wild, dude.
That's twenty twenty four, bro.
Everybody getting held accountable, bro.
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We starting off strong, too.
Oh, yeah.
Especially with this list coming out right away like that.
Everybody catching it, bro.
That's true.
If you've been ducking and dodging it for years like these people right here.
See, I paused.
I didn't cuss.
You're getting held accountable, bro.
That's right.
Straight up.
That's sick, man.
Like the sex trafficking.
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Like, yes, like underage girls, bro.
That's like.
They had a they had an island for that.
Yes, bro.
What private plane, bro?
Like.
It's it's the fact that all of y'all was OK with this.
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Like, it's sick in there, bro.
And then most of them got kids.
That's sick, bro.
Right.
So.
You can sit on that.
That's what you like.
It's fine.
If your kids was one of them kids, you know, I'm saying I'm being trafficked and, you know,
I'm saying held against a will and you know, I'm saying, yeah, I'm so ashamed that Chris
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Tucker, man.
I think a name was on that list.
Oh, God, bro.
Like them names ain't random.
Those ain't random names.
Those are not random names, bro.
Chris Tucker is something else.
I watch every rush hour, like every rush hour, multiple times.
Rush hour, my favorite movie to money talks, bro.
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Money talks.
I got you know, I'm going to watch it.
T dog on the flat.
That's crazy.
What's the possible cut in the grid?
What the fuck does that mean?
That's crazy.
No, that is crazy.
Or some picture we've seen.
No, he not dead.
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My fault.
Lucky.
I just thought about that.
Like.
When he does, I was ready.
Not that it makes sense.
I guess.
OK, then he did he have to stick it like cancer.
He has something.
He probably did.
I think he lost his balls.
Charlie was slang back in the day.
I was slinging by handy Mandy.
I remember it.
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What was the old nine Charlie Sheen was was fucking and the cocaine handy Mandy.
He has come to lay pipe.
Charlie fucking seen.
I'm glad his name was on the list.
That's a cool guy.
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That's a cool guy.
Oh, man.
Before we we got a little bit of time.
I want to get it.
I'll be talking about the Maya.
Yeah, I want to talk about the lions and the Wolverines about the NFL playoffs, bro.
I want to talk about the Atlanta Falcons finally firing that that dummy.
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Oh, my God.
That fucking stupid head.
You feel relieved.
Your stress is leveling down.
Your constipation and you find those that you finally get to shit.
Oh, man.
Damn.
I know that feels good that he's gone.
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Oh, man.
You are relieved.
Yeah, man.
I'm so glad.
I've been so I've been following them lately to see who they've been interviewing.
I don't like it.
I don't like it.
But whatever.
Yeah, as long as it's not as long as it ain't it ain't art.
This is I think you need to go back to go back and work at FedEx.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
The head coach of the Atlanta Falcons, the prior head coach, previous head coach, founder
CEO of FedEx.
Interesting.
I can't believe you picked up the show.
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Yeah.
Throwing passes anything.
Throwing boxes is.
Fuck him.
But then the fucking the lions got their first playoff win.
32, 32 years, bro.
I'm shout out to Dan Campbell, bro.
Everybody came out to us.
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I seen Barry out there.
I got guys out there.
That's something.
You know, it's funny how that worked, how we ended up playing against Stafford, you
know, and you know, Stafford was with the Lions and then we got Jerrick Goff.
Jerrick Goff was with the Rams, so it's funny how that works.
But definitely shout out to Michigan in general, because the Wolverines put it off.
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You know, definitely got that national championship.
So shout out to them.
The Lions, man, I'm proud, bro.
Like from this point, I would love to see the Lions in the Super Bowl and shit win it
all, to be honest.
Like they're going to call it mayhem in Detroit with that parade.
I'm just from no matter what happens, bro, y'all made history, bro.
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Y'all did, you know what we couldn't do in 32 years, bro.
That's crazy.
So no matter what happens, whether we go all the way through or we lose and get kicked
out, we should, should we champs for real?
You just overcome something that was 32 years.
32 years.
Bro, imagine the niggas at a 32 years old right now.
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They have a war since I was born.
They're like, finally.
But yeah, that's crazy.
32 years.
I'm still waiting on the fouls to stop choking, but it is what it is.
The playoffs is going crazy though.
You know, this is the first playoff.
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I think since what 98 that there wasn't a pay in or Brady.
That is true.
You can't spell playoffs without Tom Brady.
Yeah, that's the first year Brady ain't like, ain't played, which is crazy.
I feel like we lost Jordan.
I feel like we should have hit worse when LeBron was the NBA.
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Boy, that's going to be a tough pill to swallow.
It's going to be like, man, like you ain't even going to be seeing NBA highlights and
shit, you all you're going to hear is them debate.
So he retires or who you think the greatest is.
That's all that's going to be happening.
Yeah, it's just going to be known, but the green.
Yeah, it's so easy, bro.
LeBron.
It's not easy.
That is LeBron is the greatest.
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Like y'all old heads need to let that shit go, bro.
Let that go, bro.
Y'all got too much pride.
You are not looking at stats.
Y'all looking at simple plays, bro.
Look at the stats, right?
The goal of basketball is to score more points than the other.
Who scored more points than anybody?
LeBron James, right?
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And he also on the verse becoming the first player in history to hit 40,000 points.
That's crazy.
We're not going to acknowledge that though, right?
Oh, he didn't do this.
Jordan did this.
He didn't do this.
He didn't do this.
But LeBron is at the top on paper, bro.
That's all that matters is that black and white.
Simple.
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LeBron James.
All right.
I feel like we are coming up on time.
I'm sorry to keep y'all waiting.
Like I said, I was sick.
Shit happens.
We're going to do better.
It is 2024.
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So I am glad we opened up awareness for y'all.
For sure.
Happy New Year.
You know, we did a Christmas one already, didn't we?
So we did do a Christmas one.
This is our second episode of the year.
Oh, yeah.
This is the second.
Yeah, we had to do this special, which was crazy, bro.
That was good timing.
We had an episode on new gears.
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Yeah.
Shout out to my boy T out there, man.
He deployed, but you know, he'll be home in a while.
Pray for T. He out there.
Yeah.
So once he get back, we're going to have him back on the show, man.
And then I'll let him talk to y'all.
Oh, yeah.
With that being said, we're going to have him back on the show, man.
And then I'll let him talk to y'all.
Oh, yeah.
With that being said, we're going to have him back on the show, man.
And then I'll let him talk to y'all.
Oh, yeah.
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We might have another special guest very soon.
More to find out on our socials.
Follow us on Twitter, Instagram.
We also on that old TikTok.
We post our little clips here and there.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
And we're on Facebook, I guess.
All platforms, baby.
No, we are all platforms.
You can't not be on Facebook.
We're all platforms.
No, we are all platforms.
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You cannot miss us.
So find us.
But with that being said, peace.
We'll catch y'all next time.
Peace.
What's good, what's good.
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Thank you for tuning in.
This is the healing club podcast.
Sorry, it took us a while to come back.
You know, we have lots to live.
My boy was sick, man.
I was down for the count for a good while.
I'm sorry about that, everyone.
But I am back now.
And we are here to talk to you guys about a very important topic in mental health these
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days.
Very important.
It's about awareness in mental health.
See, we always talk about mental health awareness.
We're going to get into what is awareness.
But you know, before we get down doing that, we just want to reach out to those that are
out there hurting right now.
I feel like they don't have a way out.
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There is a hotline out there.
Professionals on the other side that can help you.
The hotline is 988.
That is the new suicide hotline.
Three digit number.
Funny thing is, you can text it now, too.
Yes, sir.
And as always, man, it's all confident, too, man.
So you ain't got to worry about your business getting out there, that the people you don't
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want to know.
Because honestly, it's uncomfortable.
You're going through something and other people know you're going through it.
Whatever it can be, definitely uncomfortable.
But just texting or calling that hotline.
Or maybe I'm sure you can even email that hotline if you Google it.
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But it's all confidential.
You ain't got to worry about nobody being in your business.
Save yourself.
Like everyone is special.
Save yourself, please.
Life is worth living.
So what I want to open up with is a very interesting statistic about suicide in 2023.
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Apparently, we hit a new record, which is not a good thing, bro.
So death by suicide count is more than 50,000 in 2023.
The crazy thing is, like in 2021, the number was at 48,183.
You know, a little bit more accurate.
Then in 2022, it climbed up to 49,449.
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Like we just keep climbing.
That's insane, bro.
And for those of y'all who think that that's not a big number, right?
Count to 50,000.
Right.
Go ahead, write zero on a piece of paper and write all the following numbers up to 50,000.
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That's how many lives we talking about right now.
50,000.
That's a lot.
50,000 loved ones, bro.
Like the people that have passed on, like those loved ones, man, like they were loved
by people.
Yeah.
Like even though they didn't feel like it.
Yeah.
Like somebody's son or daughter, brother or sister, aunt or aunt, you know, maybe somebody's
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father or mother.
Husband, wife type shit.
Yeah.
Uncle, nephew, anything like friend, best friend.
So you ever had a friend that did that shit?
I have actually.
Really?
Yeah.
This kid, Javon Higgs, I don't remember if I spoke about this before, but I feel like
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I did.
Maybe I did.
I was in the Navy.
I had this mentee assigned to me, Javon Higgs, whatever.
He didn't want to be in the Navy.
He made that clear, like in his actions.
And he even told me that verbally, whatever.
But I kind of took him under my wing.
I was trying to tell him, you know, bro, just you signed up for four years, due to four
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years, you know, be a man of your word, you know, fulfill everything that you promised
to do when you signed that contract.
And brother, damn bounce, bro.
Get your benefits out of that.
Be good.
But he ended up causing trouble and they ended up just go ahead and kicking him out.
And then like I think within days, bro, like we had a meeting like all of us together and
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they announced that he had killed himself.
That's tough.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
What would you all have known that like people were hurting like this?
It is like, you know, if you didn't have the awareness.
So that's why I want to bring I want to bring up awareness and people like I want I want
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people to know that these things are happening like this is real life.
Literally over 50,000 people killed themselves last year.
That's the truth.
And it happened.
That's the statistics there.
That's a lot, bro.
A lot.
So with awareness, I also want to bring it up, you know, within within mental health.
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So mental health awareness means knowing and recognizing different aspects of a person's
mental well-being like disorders or and or related problems.
You know, it's about sharing information, helping people understand and talking openly
to overcome misunderstandings, stereotypes and things that make it hard to get help.
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I feel like, you know, it's hard for people to actually reach out to people.
And I wonder why.
Like we we can talk about the different aspects right now, honestly.
So one of the aspects of mental health awareness is recognizing emotions.
You know, you got to understand knowledge, different feelings and emotions that impact
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their mental well-being, like sadness, stress or anxiety.
Have you?
For a good example.
It's about me, too.
You ever worked around a toxic person, bro?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Uh huh.
Like and like, can you feel like like that toxicity just impact everyone else around
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you?
Facts.
Facts.
Yes, bro.
I agree.
A hundred percent like I'm not going to lie.
That was me.
That was me at one point.
Well, you was that toxic individual you left, bro.
When you left and kept sending me to here and there and everywhere, I got tired.
I got tired all day.
These rogers started being toxic to them.
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Yeah.
But like at the time I was going through so much stress and anxiety.
Yeah.
She was crazy, bro.
Like and at the time I couldn't understand it either.
I was just so mad.
Yeah.
So my toxicity was just spreading.
But that's because, you know, the job you was in, it wasn't like, I guess, didn't already
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really care about each other.
It was all about are you producing what we're requiring from you?
That's man was what it was about.
So you know, I'm saying so I can get I get why you said you were stressed or whatever,
because ain't nobody thinking about, you know, all these people come up to you saying, do
this, do this.
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I need you to do this.
I need this from me.
Right.
And not one of them persons, bro, taking in consideration.
The stress that you taken on or whatever to make sure all this stuff get done over time,
brother, I can eat it.
Yeah.
The military was never a nurturing environment, bro.
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If I have if I was just a smarter man, if I could just knew what emotions I were feeling,
I probably you know, I probably didn't have to self-destruct.
But I didn't have that I didn't have that that that type of foresight at the time.
So what for?
You got to understand what emotions you're feeling at the time.
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If you are a toxic person, you got to understand why you know what it is making you toxic.
You're not toxic for no reason.
I don't feel like that's a thing.
You know, what happened is to like, you know, why?
Why?
Why are you going through these happy feelings?
You got to remember them.
You got to recognize them because you want to go through them again.
Yeah.
You want to fill them.
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So what awareness, recognizing emotions, know the emotions that you're feeling, you know,
know what you put yourself through, you know, like I said, like you want to remember happy
feelings.
So you recognize that and you'll remember it and you'll try to emulate that for the
rest of your life.
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A good example would be love on a case session.
So not the part chilling at the part.
It's such a good feeling like I like going there.
And I want to recreate those feelings like any time I go out there, like that.
Recognize those emotions.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I get what you're saying.
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Or let's say you get into an argument with your female because of a certain emotion that
you portrayed.
You don't want to portray that emotion again because it hurts a girl.
So you remember that.
You remember, you know, what one needs to go through that argument.
So like that, you learn as a human being.
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Yeah.
You know, I actually do like this topic awareness because like for me, one thing I needed to,
you know, be aware of is times when I get angry or something like the anger or frustrated,
you know, then or back then, you know, before, you know, we started doing all this mental
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health stuff and I started really learning stuff back then.
It was like, no, I get angry.
It's just, you know, your mind is different.
You think and differently.
Right.
But now, you know, the next time you get angry, you know, think to yourself, I'm angry.
Right.
Because you think to yourself, then you'll be like, OK, I'm angry.
I need to call that cool down so I can think properly.
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I won't do nothing.
You know, make some impulsive mistake or anything like that.
Yeah.
Like what are the things you would do if you were angry?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what are you capable of?
You know what you're capable of doing when you're angry.
So that's good on you for recognizing that.
Yeah.
And that for like you can use that for like any emotion, you know, sad, angry, frustrated,
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whatever it is you're going through, you know, be aware of what you're going through.
Right.
And that way you don't kind of claw your mind with these wrong thoughts or whatever.
And then you mess around and do something that you don't regret or something.
True.
True.
That's real.
So another aspect and like awareness is talking openly, like which we do right now, like,
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you know, encouraging open conversations about mental health, without feeling ashamed or
judged and creating an environment where everyone feels comfortable discussing their feelings.
Like we do that right now.
Like we try to create that environment for everyone.
Like it's not about your feelings.
Have you ever been at a point where you've locked yourself up with all your emotions?
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And I know all young men have done it too, because we were taught to always not show
emotions.
Yeah.
It shows weakness.
Just shut up, get up and continue going, you know, whatever is hurting you, you know, swallow
it, let it go.
Yeah.
And from where we used to work, you know, our old environment, you know, we just have
to keep on pushing, yeah, or that don't be a bitch.
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Don't be a bitch.
Yeah, exactly.
Get it done type shit.
Yeah.
So yeah, a lot.
I feel like a lot of I feel like I struggle with it too, like struggled with it when not
talking about it openly.
I used to keep things bottled up and I used to do it everywhere, even with relationships
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too.
I went I went to my girl at the time, now my ex, you know, what I was mad about or what
I was upset about.
Catch it, bottle up and I took it out on her.
The top just blew off.
Yeah, bro.
Top just fucking blew off because I wasn't talking about it.
And I know and I know a lot of like a lot of young men struggle with this talking openly.
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Yeah, I think like with this now, yeah, you know, this super modern world we and we live
we are living in now.
It's like I don't know people judge before they, I guess, consider whatever.
Like that's like you telling me are you hurt or whatever about, you know, let's say your
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past breakup or something.
Right.
Let's say you just get into a breakup and you come to me and want to like vent to me
and I'm listening to you pour out the fillers.
I'm like, you a bitch.
I mean to say that out loud, but you a b word.
Right.
My man, quit being soft.
Right.
Now, as a good friend, you know, at least I can do is listen.
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And then, you know, it's all a process, you know, that you're going to have to go through
to, you know, I'm saying to get back, you know, squared away mentally or whatever.
Right.
And I'm going to just have to, you know, trust or not trust you.
Well, trust you obviously, but be there for you and, you know, help you get back to where
you was, get you out that hole.
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So it's all about empowering each other.
Exactly.
I love it when you do that, bro.
I ain't gonna lie.
I love it when he does that, bro.
Yeah.
Like I sit here and I explain, bro, like a paragraph because I can't think of the one
word that really will sum up what I'm saying that after I'm done saying it, he'll say something
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like that, empower each other.
That's what I was saying, bro.
Appreciate it.
Empowerment, baby.
I want to add on to empowerment, though.
Like if only young men these days would empower each other instead of I hate this word.
I think it's so funny.
Honestly, don't haunt me for it either.
I think it's so funny that people have ops.
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You grew up with this.
How is he your opposition?
How is it your enemy?
This was your friend in middle school or elementary school type shit.
Like I don't understand.
No, I don't.
I mean, that honestly, like that comes from just like people looking up to other people
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that use that type of language and it just carried down and spread it.
That damn rap music ops.
We all got an op in common.
Deaf.
Deaf is enough.
And taxes, that's an op.
And Karen's.
I'm worried about the dude down the street because he didn't choose it, but he was happened
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to be born and raised on that block.
So now I got it.
Now he an op.
Right?
Like nobody choose to be born nowhere or whatever.
So I get what you're saying.
Yeah, your only op should be Karen, that target.
That should be your only op.
The line say what?
12 items or less.
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You got 26 things in your basket.
Like get out the way, bro.
Your op should be the DMV worker with all that attitude.
That should be your op.
Your homie down the block should not be your op.
I don't understand that.
Y'all grew up with these people, man.
I wish I just talked to each other honestly.
Not for real, like literally, bro, with the rate we going at, instead of like, I'm just
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referring to like, you know, like gang and like gun violence, that type of stuff.
But instead of like doing all of that, bro, if you just talk like or I'm pretty sure it
would be a vicious debate, whatever.
But you know, nobody getting shot, nobody getting killed.
I'm saying work it out that way.
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You know what I'm saying?
And then the generation after you will have to go through none of that.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And it keep carrying on.
You know what I'm saying?
So definitely talking is better than they killing each other.
I just want death to stop.
Like period that that suicide number disgust me.
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I was like over 50 and that's male and female and the US.
Yeah.
OK, so yes.
Yeah.
So 50,000 of our people.
This insane, bro, like.
And then.
I will say I didn't even talk about homicide.
I know.
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Yeah.
But speaking of awareness again, right.
If you know, you got, you know, you know, them feelings where, you know, somebody's not
all right or, you know, maybe a friend or family, family member showing you signs that
they might not be happy with life.
You know what I'm saying?
And, you know, just having that or just using that skill because we all got it.
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You know, we just have to use it, that awareness.
You know what I'm saying?
If you see something like that, reach out and try to see what's up to help them out
if you can.
I know a lot of times like when it comes to like these, you know, the people that's committed
suicide, you know, you often hear like people saying like, you know, they didn't show any
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signs of this, this and that.
So sometimes they can be kind of good at like really showing or portraying that they are
OK.
Well, that's the people I want to reach out to.
Yeah.
Those like the ones, the ones that are showing the like national signs.
Yeah.
The ones that are actually hurting me down.
I want to reach out to down.
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Yeah.
Like we all know, we all know like signs and we all know how to prevent, you know, suicide
through all through all the education and resources.
Right.
I want to reach out to the people right now that actually hurt.
And that's what this is all about.
Nah, for sure, bro.
That hotline is available.
You know, we own pretty much all platforms.
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You can direct messages or whatever you're going through.
And I promise you, bro, we will respond and try to help you the best way we can.
I don't care where you at.
What part of the country you in or where you at in the world.
To be honest with you, we can help.
Yeah, we try our best.
I'll tell you this right now.
We are your friend.
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Automatically, automatically.
You're watching this podcast right now.
We are your friend.
Oh, God, consider us a friend so you can talk to us as a friend.
So we're going into the next aspect of mental health awareness, learning and sharing.
I think this is another thing that a lot of people have issues with, like continuously
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learning and sharing information about mental health to help others understand and know
where to find support.
Resources.
Yeah.
How much do people know about mental health?
Like awareness?
Not much.
I don't think they know much.
We try our best to spread as much as we can.
We are a resource, but at the same time, we're also learning, too.
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I think, you know, just to expand on learning and sharing, like me and Sean talked about
this before, you know, especially, you know, how we always target family values, right?
Like those experiences that, you know, that each and every one of us go through, you know,
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sometimes or a lot of times when you share that experience, you can actually can help
somebody, right?
Because you didn't already been through this, right?
And there is somebody after you, you know, that is going to go through it, too, because
we all go through the same things.
Yeah.
Similar things, just different.
We want to learn from your peers.
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Exactly.
Yeah.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Like learn from your peers.
You can also learn from us because we tell our stories to y'all.
Like we're a resource.
And as far as support is, you can find support from your friends and family.
Like we preach on family values a lot.
And if you can't find nobody, 988, they're going to support you, don't care who you are,
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what you going through, you know, what you didn't been through.
They're going to help you.
In fact, they are professionals.
This is what they live for.
You know what I'm saying?
So you always got a resource.
You know what I'm saying?
If you ain't got no family, no friends, whatever, you ain't got a dog, nothing, 988 will help
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you.
988.
They're making an inbox for us.
Like just a special inbox just for just to talk to people.
And now that'd be dope.
Yeah.
I'm going to do something for that.
So yeah, expect that everyone, because we're going to have a special open chat box and
we've got a private chat box too.
Yeah.
And you know, maybe if you want us to talk about it on the podcast, you know, hear real
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time, you know, feedback from us, it'd be anonymous, you know.
Yeah.
It'd be anonymous.
Well, nobody has to know who we are talking about.
Yes, sir.
But yeah, learning and sharing, like the best way to like, I feel like the best way to learn
is from peers, learn from people, look at people to, you know, be observant.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Like when people talk, actually listen.
You actually, yeah, that's literally how you learn from people.
Yeah.
Like listen to it, somebody's telling you, like that's how you, yeah.
That is how you learn.
Actually listen.
Like I know people say, oh, I'm listening.
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Like actually listen and like dissect what they're saying.
Actually try to understand what they're saying.
You learn a lot.
Yeah, for sure.
Because people say a lot.
But you know, you never know, you know, who you're talking to, honestly, you never know
what they're saying either.
Unless you actually listen.
For sure, like you would be surprised what an eight year old would be able to teach you.
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That type of shit bro.
Like you will be surprised.
Because kids are a lot smarter than you think.
Just because they got a snot bubble and you know, they need to change the diaper.
Don't mean they can't teach you that.
They'll teach you something.
They will teach you something.
And they always honest too, you know, like an eight year old straight tell you, run everybody,
like your breast thing.
Your breast thing.
You fat.
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You can't even tell.
Yeah, they'll tell you.
Bro, I remember I put my hair up in a ponytail and my girl's niece, she said, you look like
a girl.
I said, hey, yo.
You don't say that in front of everybody.
Oh God, bro.
In front of the family.
I'm like, yo, chill.
Yo.
But yeah, man, nah, listen.
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Actually listen, bro.
Like, you know, talk to people.
Be open, I guess.
So another, we can, yeah, man, we got, we got more aspects into mental health.
So mental health awareness is a big topic.
No, it is.
Another, another aspect we're going to get into is ending stigma.
So challenging and stopping negative beliefs or stereotypes about mental health.
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So everyone feels accepted and supported no matter their struggles.
So what's a good example of people talking shit about mental health?
Talking mental health.
Like, I think we can use that as an, and a good example of how it'd be like a lot of
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the homeless, low key downtown San Diego.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
Only, and I say that because like, because I actually met one guy, Ashley, I think it
was out of McDonald's.
I was coming through the drive-through and he was like sitting at the end of that drive-through
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with like a sign or whatever.
And so I was like, you know what?
I'm going to do something different today.
I bought him a double cheeseburger.
Right.
Go out to him and give him the double cheeseburger.
He like, oh man, thank you.
God bless you.
You know, you such a good person, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
You know, no worries, man.
It's all good.
Whatever.
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And then he ended up telling me like random, he's like, man, you know, man, I used to be
at the top ranks in the Navy, man.
And you know, and you know, I feel like crap.
You know, people just walked past me, you know, cause he had on, he did have on like
a Navy uniform, the originals are like the blue, like the blue camos.
The blue ones.
Yeah.
Before the green camos he had on the blue camos.
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Oh my shit.
Yeah.
He was just kind of like telling me his story or whatever.
And then, you know, one incident where he messed with some drugs, you know, he lost everything
or whatever.
And I think the mental struggle in that is, you know, you got people that look at homeless,
like just pieces of, you know, you know what, you know, you don't really know what people
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then been through or, you know, who these people were, whatever, you know what I'm saying?
He probably live in the rest of his life, just regretting mistakes.
Man, I hate the aspect of homelessness because we're their family members, bro.
I always think that, bro, I'm like, dang, y'all ain't got nobody.
And I'm sure it's, if some of them, or a lot of them family may have tried to help, but
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it's one of them situations where I can't help you.
Yeah.
I can't help you because you don't want to help yourself.
That type shit.
Yeah.
So I feel like, I feel like family members should still try to reach, there's no reason
your uncle, your auntie, your father, your mother, your brother, your sister should be
out on the streets, bro.
Your kids.
There is no reason they should be out on the street.
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Somebody should reach out.
Not definitely.
Like, I don't care, man.
How are there homeless people when that, when people have family members?
I don't know.
It's a cold world.
But that shit is so cold.
That is negative.
Facts.
Like, no, man.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't, I don't like the negative belief behind homelessness.
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Like, no, that's not cool.
Yeah.
Because they're people, man.
You know?
Yeah.
Everyone's a human being, man.
Everyone is a special.
If, if, if the homeless were to be given a chance, because I mean, come on, bro.
Like not, like we, like America, like you, I want to say it won't get an equal chance,
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but let's be, let's be real.
No.
Like, like depending on your birth, bro, where you were born, yeah.
You know, your ethnicity, you know, where you were raised that it's, bro, it's like
completely random, bro.
It's like going to the casino, bro.
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You know, you play the slash, pull the handle and it's just a bunch of it.
Stop where it stopped.
You know, nobody got control over that.
Yeah.
And not everyone was born equal.
Exactly.
That's that type of shit too.
Exactly.
But I will say, I think that a lot of the opportunities for whatever it is that you
want to do in life are there, but the road for each person is different.
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Depending, like I said, depending on, you know, uh, where, you know, what color you
are, uh, you know, um, where you were raised that a rose can be just a lot harder or it
could be a lot easier for you.
It's out of your control.
Be honest.
Yeah.
If I'm just saying if homeless people were given an equal chance, that shit.
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Like if, okay, if we just disregarded the fact that they are homeless.
Okay.
Well, like what, what is the negative belief behind homelessness anyway?
Oh, they're, they're druggies.
Oh, drug use.
Yeah.
Alcoholics.
Every time you give them money, every time you give them money, they just going to go
spend it on a beer or something to get wasted.
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There's some reason to have such a bad image to them.
Yeah.
But that's not the case for everybody.
I'm pretty sure the majority are willing to get, are willing to take the help and get
back on it.
Yeah.
We need to be, we need to be more forgiving.
Yeah.
We need to be more forgiving people.
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Yeah.
11 too.
So what's loving?
Like that goes into a different aspect of, uh, of mental health awareness, support and
kindness.
So being there for friends, family, or anyone struggling with that.
Okay.
I'm good.
Yeah.
Okay.
Any who, so what's the port and kindness, you know, being there for friends, family,
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or anyone struggling with mental health challenges by offering support, kindness and understanding.
I'm not cutting that out though.
That's fine.
But just being there for one another, man, like being a friend, being, being a human
being, like we talk about it a lot, like being like have conversations with people, be open,
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talk to people, bro, like support and kindness.
Yeah.
And for me, let me, it's something I was just thinking about when it comes to kindness,
uh, just kindness specifically, they don't, you don't have to know that person.
To be kind.
Kindness is kindness, like period, you know?
So like, you don't have to know this person to do something kind for them.
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So I mentioned that, yeah.
Cause I've, I've seen a lot of times where it was like, I hope I don't know him.
But yeah, like I just said, anyone struggling, like we're talking about mental health, struggling
with mental health challenges.
Like shit, you see someone, you see someone, you know, crying, crying on a bench, boo hoo.
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Oh no, my girlfriend broke up with me.
Oh, sorry.
Let me be more serious.
He's laughing at his act then, not the situation.
Okay.
I'm trying to go Hollywood.
I live so close.
That's time.
That's time to be A list.
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But like, like supporting kindness being weak, the hand that reaches out, I guess being the
bigger person.
Has there ever been a situation where you could have been the bigger person where you
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could have, where you could have been a, like a kind of nurturing person, but I said you
were the complete opposite.
Yeah.
I think that actually happened.
I have to happen a few times.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Lucky I regret it.
I wish I could have lucky.
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Cause you never know a person might need to be in need of something good, you know, kindness,
you know, send that to live somebody hard, especially if you don't know that person and
it's just like one of the random acts of kindness for now.
Yeah.
I'm saying help people, you know, really, you know, you'll feel a lot taller, you know
what I mean?
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Random acts of kindness.
I've gotten better with that, bro, because another, another thing that I feel like young
man struggle with is being receptive of other people's emotions.
Like being sensitive to it, like, like not like sensitive in the sense of like knowing,
knowing that you feel what somebody is feeling.
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Say like you feel like shit, you're really not showing it, but I can feel your vibe type
shit and I really want to reach out to you and talk to you about it because you know,
it makes me sad too type shit.
Instead, you know, instead of like, like, like young men would try to like, like me,
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I'll try to be the tougher guy and then try to be an asshole like, you know, why you killing
my vibe type shit?
Yeah.
But me now being the bigger person, I can, I can reach out to you and be like, hey bro,
I see you going through something, you know, let's, let's talk about it.
You know, we're not going anywhere unless we talk about it too type shit because you
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know, that's how much I care.
Yeah.
Be willing to go ahead and let or help them, you know, or relieve what they got built up,
whatever, you know, be a, a safe, a safe zone or come, you know, be offered.
What do you call it?
Like a sanction, like a sanctuary or something like that.
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A safe space, safe space, a safe space.
There it is.
There it is.
Safe space.
You can be a safe space for somebody.
Could be a safe space for somebody.
Yeah.
That's very important.
Like what random next to kindness, man.
That's also very important.
Yeah.
Like I didn't know how important it was to just, just do random things.
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Like, you know, I could, I could just cook breakfast.
I didn't know where from my shorty or, or, you know, get, get a little gift because I'm
not, I'm not using something at the crib anymore.
Yeah.
That's, you know, that's a lot of things back then that like, like you would, like it was
common like we are, we are heard it before, you know, you see it old lady or old man struggling
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to walk across the street.
You know, you get out your car and you know, you help them across the street.
That was like a lot of kindness things that they did in the past.
Nowadays you don't see that me personally.
Hang on.
I've never done it honestly, but if it was about to see it, I've never seen it either.
Yeah.
I'm sure.
Yeah.
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I've never seen it either, but today if the situation occur, I would, I would do that.
Yeah.
I'm sure that, that, you know, oh man or old lady would very much appreciate that.
Nah, for sure, bro.
All right.
But so we're always talking about helping each other, but you know, we never, we never,
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we don't focus on numero uno or enough.
So we're closing for our last aspect of awareness and mental health, self care.
So we're going to our last aspect of mental health awareness.
You know, we don't talk about ourselves enough.
So we're going into self care, but understanding the importance of, of taking care of our own
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mental health through practices like mindfulness, relaxation, seeking help when needed.
That's a fact, bro.
This one is a, is a big one.
Like, and I even, I talked to my shorty about this too.
Cause she wanted these or she not, excuse me.
She not more of one of these people.
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She more of one of the people that's like, you know, no matter what, she always put other
people first and I always have herself on like the back burner or whatever.
And I told her, you know, you know, cause I think she looked at it as being selfish
sometimes cause you do see people like that who just, you know, conceded in themselves
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and just straight selfish.
Everything's about me, me, me, me, me.
But yeah, but every now and then it is okay, bro.
And I think healthy to give yourself, you know, love and you know what I'm saying?
To treat yourself, you know what I'm saying?
For cause you know, we all go through things and overcome things and sometimes we forget
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that, you know, it's no better.
Thanks than to thank yourself.
You know what I'm saying?
So I definitely think this is a big one for us.
One of the aspects of awareness self care.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We, we don't, I mean, I say we're selfish people, but like, we don't look out for our
mental health enough.
I feel like when we struggle, we, we try to, we try to just stuff it through.
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Yeah.
That leads that.
I feel like that leads to like the worst thing imaginable, which is suicide.
Yeah.
I feel like we don't take care of ourselves enough, bro.
Like no facts.
Like you need to give yourself credit.
Like I don't care how a little of something you dig that was good or whatever.
(37:22):
Like, you know, however old you is I'm, I'm 25, you know, that's I've been under there
25 years, every single year I had to overcome something.
Right?
You know what I'm saying?
It's okay to give back to yourself.
You should.
No, for sure.
Give, give back to yourself.
Love yourself more.
If you yourself, you know, you need help.
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That's okay.
That's always okay.
Yeah.
I had therapy.
So I had to go see shrink myself a couple of times and it works.
Well even though it feel like, probably they just asked the right questions.
That's all it really takes.
Honestly to get something out of you is the right question.
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All I learned from it was all I needed to do was talk to somebody about it.
You just needed to talk to somebody to listen to somebody.
Just listen to me.
I'm going through these things and nobody's helping me.
Help me.
Oh my God.
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Cause you know, the way I look at my life, you know, my life or where everybody's life
is essentially a book.
My life, my life for real.
So each year is like a chapter in, and, and, you know, chapters, you know, you're going
to have your, you know, these obstacles or whoever or whatever that, uh, entity, entity
(38:52):
is that you're going to have to overcome or whatever.
And you know, every time you do that, you know, you should give yourself credit, you
know, your self recognition.
No, for sure.
Yeah.
And definitely if you go on through something is on you to find help for you.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
I know like that is, that is the world.
No, you have to look out for yourself and nobody knows what's going to do it for you.
My God.
That's, that is the tough truth.
And I know, I know how much we, like some of us need support.
(39:33):
Like I, I, I need help with this.
I need, I need, you know, whatever.
Cause I know some people that are like dependent for like, they, like they just need somebody
to do things for them.
You gotta learn to be self efficient, self aware, take care of yourself.
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Be knowledgeable.
Like no, like no things like don't, don't be ignorant.
Like you can't, you can't go into this world without knowing anything in this world.
Like, like simple things like how to change a tire type shit.
You know, do I pay taxes or what am I going to cook for dinner tonight?
(40:24):
Type shit.
Do I know how to dry type shit?
I don't know.
I don't know now, but like gotta know how to take care of yourself in this world.
Also take care of your mental health.
That's that's so important.
Know that there are resources, know that there are support out there.
Yeah, it should be.
(40:46):
Yeah.
Mental health is precious, you know, to each and every one of us.
And you know, and just this topic we spoke on today, you know, hopefully I could take
a lot of this and, you know, in implementing your lives, your daily lives, just mental
health awareness, that's every single thing you being aware of yourself, your surroundings,
the people around you, you know what I'm saying?
(41:08):
Awareness is literally like pretty much everything to be honest.
Like us as young men, we try to be very aware anyway of our surroundings because we have
these so-called ops.
Let's try to focus more on that awareness on our mental health.
Yeah, for sure.
Because there is a lot of ops against our mental health.
(41:32):
So the only option is the demons in your head right now.
For real.
A lot of our ops, you know, is ourselves.
Like, that'd be like the main that is yourself.
Yeah, our ops is ourselves.
It's like, well, we will do it to ourselves before we do it to anybody else.
And with that, I want to ask you guys, all you people, all you healing people out there,
(42:02):
a very important question you can answer to us in the comments or whatever, or in our
IG.
Engage with us.
We actually want to hear your answer.
But this is the question.
What's one thing you wish more people understood about mental health based on your own experiences
(42:25):
or observations?
I should go.
Yeah, definitely.
Hit us up with that answer, bro.
You want to hear it.
What's one thing you wish more people understood about mental health based on your experiences
or observations?
I'm on my Dr. Umar.
I almost puked, but let me stay focused.
(42:51):
I almost knew, but let me see.
That was like a blooper.
I don't know.
I'm going to go and I like it.
It's funny.
Hmm.
(43:12):
But yeah, I want to hear your answer.
What's one thing that you wish more people understood about mental health based on your
own experiences or observations?
You might have a good grasp of mental health based on what we've talked about.
I hope we've been very educational about it.
(43:36):
But all right.
Man, you know what?
It's been a minute.
We've only talked about mental health.
We finally got time to talk about some other stuff.
It's a mystery what we're about to talk about.
It's time that we bring awareness onto Mr. Jeffrey Eskin and his little list.
(44:03):
Oh my God.
Oh my God, bro.
Let me just say this.
For every person, whether you male or female, you was on that list.
You're sick, bro.
If this is true, you're sick, bro.
Just vile.
(44:24):
You're like the bottom of the chum bucket, bro.
Disgusting, bro.
And I honestly hope whatever consequences and repercussions come with this, I hope you
get it all, bro.
Like bottom of the prison.
(44:44):
This list is so crazy.
Like die, come back to life and do time until you die again.
Honestly, you hear that?
Chris Tucker, Stephen Hawking, Stephen Hawking running right now.
Stephen Hawking.
Oh, and Bruce Willis, Cameron Diaz, Bruce Andrew, Bosta Clint.
(45:05):
It's a hell of doctors on that list, too.
Detectives, bro.
Yeah, that detective and police chief.
Oh, you know the one.
You know the one.
You know what's going to hurt me, bro?
Leonardo DiCaprio, bro.
That hurt me, bro, because none of them will be in a position that they in if it wasn't
(45:26):
for us.
Right.
We, you know, we went out and bought them clips and went to the theaters, you know,
paid them money for them tickets or whatever.
And think about how many times you rented a movie or how many times you didn't went
to the movie theater, you know, add all of that up.
We all invested a lot of money ourselves into these people, you know, because far as we
(45:49):
was concerned, you know, they was, you know, good entertainers, you know, they present
themselves on camera as good people, you know, loving people.
We donate to charity, this, this and that.
But you want Jeffrey Epstein's list?
How many celebrities is it?
I found thousands of celebrities and one hundred and forty seven of y'all was on it out of
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those thousands and thousands of celebrity.
One hundred and forty seven was on it, bro.
Y'all are guilty, bro.
Yeah, I'm guilty, bro.
And the fuck that thing is.
I know, I know I'm going, bro.
No sir, go ahead.
The messed up thing is, bro, like when it comes to Hollywood, bro, like them dark rumors,
(46:30):
you always hear that be like, damn, this is kind of dark.
You ever notice, bro, that the room has been there since the beginning, bro, like.
Like years, like I'm talking like 50 years prior to we was born, them rumors was there.
And it at this point, you know, who can keep a rumor alive that long unless it's true,
(46:54):
bro?
This is sick, bro.
You're all sick, bro.
Straight up.
You want you want to know something is that so it's supposed to be one hundred and fifty
people.
But they don't do it.
One hundred and forty seven names.
I wonder what the other three are doing.
So Jeffrey actually got a suicide.
(47:16):
But how true is that?
How true?
Cap, if you got a mind and you think about it, this man got caught up doing one of the
most nastiest things in history.
That's what he was going down for.
And not only that, everybody that was on that list, there are people that the public look
up to or whatever, people in power and shit like that.
(47:41):
They couldn't afford him being alive.
And then, you know what I'm saying?
And then confessing to all of this and point out all the people that was there, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm sure it's people who probably was involved that is probably somebody we really
look up to and don't believe that they would actually do something like this.
(48:04):
But then again, we see who on the list.
That's what we thought about these people.
You know what I'm saying?
And why would they ever let that get out?
I believe that they killed that man, bro.
Honestly, because who are those three people?
Even if you was one of those people in power and you know that this is the only man right
(48:25):
here that can put us all down.
Right.
Let's get ready, huh?
And nobody ever know.
It's got to be those three people that were left off the list, bro.
Think so?
I think so.
There's something fishy about that.
I'm going to look into it.
It's definitely something fishy going on.
I'm going to look into it.
I want to look into the police officers that were around at the time, like the officers
(48:48):
that like the guards.
I want to look up like the deaths around the time at that prison.
I'm going to look into it.
I'm going to look into it.
They're going to hunt me.
Me and Sean believe in fairness.
Whatever things we didn't do wrong, we didn't have to face the consequences.
Yeah.
Right.
I want them to face the consequences, too.
That's fair.
I meant to.
(49:09):
I meant to this kind of drama, too.
I like it.
I like it.
That's fair, bro.
That was just sick.
That was, man.
It's sick, bro.
No, I'm joking.
Damn, Jeffrey Epstein.
That's crazy.
But it is what it is.
Stephen Hawking?
No.
Stephen Hawking.
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That's funny.
Stephen Hawking, bro.
What's he got there with the voice box?
With his.
And that's the.
Boy, that is wild, dude.
That's twenty twenty four, bro.
Everybody getting held accountable, bro.
(49:53):
We starting off strong, too.
Oh, yeah.
Especially with this list coming out right away like that.
Everybody catching it, bro.
That's true.
If you've been ducking and dodging it for years like these people right here.
See, I paused.
I didn't cuss.
You're getting held accountable, bro.
That's right.
Straight up.
That's sick, man.
Like the sex trafficking.
(50:14):
Like, yes, like underage girls, bro.
That's like.
They had a they had an island for that.
Yes, bro.
What private plane, bro?
Like.
It's it's the fact that all of y'all was OK with this.
(50:36):
Like, it's sick in there, bro.
And then most of them got kids.
That's sick, bro.
Right.
So.
You can sit on that.
That's what you like.
It's fine.
If your kids was one of them kids, you know, I'm saying I'm being trafficked and, you know,
I'm saying held against a will and you know, I'm saying, yeah, I'm so ashamed that Chris
(50:59):
Tucker, man.
I think a name was on that list.
Oh, God, bro.
Like them names ain't random.
Those ain't random names.
Those are not random names, bro.
Chris Tucker is something else.
I watch every rush hour, like every rush hour, multiple times.
Rush hour, my favorite movie to money talks, bro.
(51:20):
Money talks.
I got you know, I'm going to watch it.
T dog on the flat.
That's crazy.
What's the possible cut in the grid?
What the fuck does that mean?
That's crazy.
No, that is crazy.
Or some picture we've seen.
No, he not dead.
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My fault.
Lucky.
I just thought about that.
Like.
When he does, I was ready.
Not that it makes sense.
I guess.
OK, then he did he have to stick it like cancer.
He has something.
He probably did.
I think he lost his balls.
Charlie was slang back in the day.
I was slinging by handy Mandy.
I remember it.
(52:01):
What was the old nine Charlie Sheen was was fucking and the cocaine handy Mandy.
He has come to lay pipe.
Charlie fucking seen.
I'm glad his name was on the list.
That's a cool guy.
(52:21):
That's a cool guy.
Oh, man.
Before we we got a little bit of time.
I want to get it.
I'll be talking about the Maya.
Yeah, I want to talk about the lions and the Wolverines about the NFL playoffs, bro.
I want to talk about the Atlanta Falcons finally firing that that dummy.
(52:42):
Oh, my God.
That fucking stupid head.
You feel relieved.
Your stress is leveling down.
Your constipation and you find those that you finally get to shit.
Oh, man.
Damn.
I know that feels good that he's gone.
(53:02):
Oh, man.
You are relieved.
Yeah, man.
I'm so glad.
I've been so I've been following them lately to see who they've been interviewing.
I don't like it.
I don't like it.
But whatever.
Yeah, as long as it's not as long as it ain't it ain't art.
This is I think you need to go back to go back and work at FedEx.
(53:26):
Yeah.
Yeah.
The head coach of the Atlanta Falcons, the prior head coach, previous head coach, founder
CEO of FedEx.
Interesting.
I can't believe you picked up the show.
(53:49):
Yeah.
Throwing passes anything.
Throwing boxes is.
Fuck him.
But then the fucking the lions got their first playoff win.
32, 32 years, bro.
I'm shout out to Dan Campbell, bro.
Everybody came out to us.
(54:10):
I seen Barry out there.
I got guys out there.
That's something.
You know, it's funny how that worked, how we ended up playing against Stafford, you
know, and you know, Stafford was with the Lions and then we got Jerrick Goff.
Jerrick Goff was with the Rams, so it's funny how that works.
But definitely shout out to Michigan in general, because the Wolverines put it off.
(54:30):
You know, definitely got that national championship.
So shout out to them.
The Lions, man, I'm proud, bro.
Like from this point, I would love to see the Lions in the Super Bowl and shit win it
all, to be honest.
Like they're going to call it mayhem in Detroit with that parade.
I'm just from no matter what happens, bro, y'all made history, bro.
(54:53):
Y'all did, you know what we couldn't do in 32 years, bro.
That's crazy.
So no matter what happens, whether we go all the way through or we lose and get kicked
out, we should, should we champs for real?
You just overcome something that was 32 years.
32 years.
Bro, imagine the niggas at a 32 years old right now.
(55:17):
They have a war since I was born.
They're like, finally.
But yeah, that's crazy.
32 years.
I'm still waiting on the fouls to stop choking, but it is what it is.
The playoffs is going crazy though.
You know, this is the first playoff.
(55:38):
I think since what 98 that there wasn't a pay in or Brady.
That is true.
You can't spell playoffs without Tom Brady.
Yeah, that's the first year Brady ain't like, ain't played, which is crazy.
I feel like we lost Jordan.
I feel like we should have hit worse when LeBron was the NBA.
(55:59):
Boy, that's going to be a tough pill to swallow.
It's going to be like, man, like you ain't even going to be seeing NBA highlights and
shit, you all you're going to hear is them debate.
So he retires or who you think the greatest is.
That's all that's going to be happening.
Yeah, it's just going to be known, but the green.
Yeah, it's so easy, bro.
LeBron.
It's not easy.
That is LeBron is the greatest.
(56:20):
Like y'all old heads need to let that shit go, bro.
Let that go, bro.
Y'all got too much pride.
You are not looking at stats.
Y'all looking at simple plays, bro.
Look at the stats, right?
The goal of basketball is to score more points than the other.
Who scored more points than anybody?
LeBron James, right?
(56:41):
And he also on the verse becoming the first player in history to hit 40,000 points.
That's crazy.
We're not going to acknowledge that though, right?
Oh, he didn't do this.
Jordan did this.
He didn't do this.
He didn't do this.
But LeBron is at the top on paper, bro.
That's all that matters is that black and white.
Simple.
(57:02):
LeBron James.
All right.
I feel like we are coming up on time.
I'm sorry to keep y'all waiting.
Like I said, I was sick.
Shit happens.
We're going to do better.
It is 2024.
(57:23):
So I am glad we opened up awareness for y'all.
For sure.
Happy New Year.
You know, we did a Christmas one already, didn't we?
So we did do a Christmas one.
This is our second episode of the year.
Oh, yeah.
This is the second.
Yeah, we had to do this special, which was crazy, bro.
That was good timing.
We had an episode on new gears.
(57:43):
Yeah.
Shout out to my boy T out there, man.
He deployed, but you know, he'll be home in a while.
Pray for T. He out there.
Yeah.
So once he get back, we're going to have him back on the show, man.
And then I'll let him talk to y'all.
Oh, yeah.
With that being said, we're going to have him back on the show, man.
And then I'll let him talk to y'all.
Oh, yeah.
With that being said, we're going to have him back on the show, man.
And then I'll let him talk to y'all.
Oh, yeah.
(58:05):
We might have another special guest very soon.
More to find out on our socials.
Follow us on Twitter, Instagram.
We also on that old TikTok.
We post our little clips here and there.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
And we're on Facebook, I guess.
All platforms, baby.
No, we are all platforms.
You can't not be on Facebook.
We're all platforms.
No, we are all platforms.
(58:26):
You cannot miss us.
So find us.
But with that being said, peace.
We'll catch y'all next time.
Peace.
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