December 11, 2023 • 57 mins
This weekend we linked up with @mr912_ (a old friend of Shawn's) & we had some great conversations about empathy & apathy within our communities. We also had some great laughs! You can find my boy on Instagram, so go ahead & show love! Thank you everyone for tuning in!
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What's up?
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What's good everyone?
Shit.
This is the healing club podcast episode seven.
We have a guest.
Y'all can see him right now.
My boy, my boy, Mr. 912.
Hey man.
Mr. 912, go ahead and introduce yourself.
Hey man.
Well, first of all, you know, thanks for having me on here.
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So my name is Hamilton Thomas.
I'm a friend of Sean's and then he told me about this podcast, raising awareness for
mental health.
I'm like, yeah, for sure.
You know, it's definitely something I can stand behind.
And like you said, like it's very conversational.
So I'm just looking forward to it.
We appreciate you having me here.
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Yeah, we're definitely, we're definitely dedicated to being the number one mental health awareness
podcast for everyone.
And we do appreciate your support.
Yes, sir.
My nigga, Mr. 912.
It really is just niggas on here just chatting it up.
Honestly.
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Hey, I saw first guess.
We're gonna see how it is.
Go.
Yes, sir.
It's the first.
Yeah, bro, you were first one.
Hey, you know, me.
But we're gonna go ahead and get started.
So first and foremost, if anybody's out there hurting, going through any pain, seeking like
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if you need professional help, there is a hotline out there for those that are that
are thinking of suicide or, you know, things along the lines.
There is a three digit number for that, the services are there for you.
The excuse me, the digits are 988.
You can call or text that number.
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People are there on the other side to help you.
Not definitely, you know, and remember, just like we always say, it's all confidential.
You don't have to worry about, you know, people you don't want finding out what you're going
through is all private between you and whoever's working in your situation.
Definitely reach out if you feel like you at that point.
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But, um, yeah, today's episode is going to be on empathy.
What is empathy?
To start off with.
So empathy is the ability to understand and share another person's emotions and experiences.
Why is that important to today's society?
I feel like we don't see enough empathy, especially with our youth, man.
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I just feel like Nick, like Nick, like Nick is, they literally get.
No, I should say that.
Empathy in like easy understandable terms, it's literally putting yourself in that other
person's shoes.
Right.
And like you said, we don't really see a lot of it nowadays because everybody just quick
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to judge.
But, you know, you ain't got to judge nobody.
If you put yourself in their shoes and understand where they coming from, you will see why they
feeling like they feel.
You instead, you can actually help somebody rather than throw more dirt on them.
You know what I mean?
So not dead ass like, um, I, I think it stems from a lot of selfishness, dog.
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Like I really think people are selfish these days.
Um, why do I think people are selfish?
I don't think we think about the big picture like enough.
And you're definitely onto something with what you said.
Um, I think at all, it all, it all stems out that selfishness.
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Like I think people are just only like, I, you really can't call it selfish, but what
do you call it when people only think about themselves?
Selfish.
Like, yeah, I don't think you can call it anything else.
Right?
So these days, like these days, dog, we literally try to justify everything, like literally
everything that people do out in this world that we try to justify it.
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Well, I like, and that's why I try to find another word for, you know, another way of
calling people that are apathetic, you know, like, I really think it stems down to selfish
like being selfish, but really can't not, not in today's society.
You can't, you can't just call it, bro.
Like even with the whole guy and female thing, right?
You feel bad or you want to help out a lady and they call you a, a simp.
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You know what I'm saying?
So it definitely is today's society that we definitely more judgmental before we, or more
judgmental now than back then it was, it was like, okay, so you see somebody going through
something you would lend a hand if you could, right, but nowadays it's like every man for
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himself.
No facts, man.
That's, that's, that's actually kind of crazy.
That's the nine one two.
How do you, how do you view empathy and apathy in today's society?
Yeah, no, man.
So like, I like what both of y'all said, like what Luke was saying is just, put yourself
in someone else's shoes.
So even like a couple of years back, you know, so let's say now they got, you know, how you
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could take time off after you have a child or like postpartum depression.
I was ignorant of that.
I'm like, man, like what is that?
You know, like whatever the case may be.
So for the rest of my natural life, I'll never be able to have that experience firsthand.
You know what I'm saying?
However, I can read about it, educate myself and then try to put myself in someone else's
shoes and be like, okay, cool.
This is why they would feel the way that they feel.
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You know what I'm saying?
And not just like both of y'all were saying, being selfish and brushing it off.
Oh, that ain't real.
Why are you doing this and that?
That's not, you know, that's not it.
So that's not, I get you.
I feel like we, we don't, we don't try to understand people anymore.
So I actually get, I actually get what you're saying.
Um, yeah, no, those are definitely good points.
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Yeah.
Then I feel like a lot of, a lot of people today are followers, bro.
Like you can not know a person.
All right, hold on.
Let me put it like this.
So you don't know a person, right?
But you know a person that don't like this person, right?
They're right off the bat.
You get convinced that, you know, from this person that, Hey, this person ain't shit.
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So you shouldn't like them.
And then rather than, you know, somebody trying to get a feel for themselves and, you know,
come up with their own, however they feel about it, they just take what somebody else
say and they shit on a person too.
You know what?
I see that a lot.
Like people literally do not think for themselves these days anymore.
I get what you mean.
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I see it a lot on social media too.
We try to follow these perfect lifestyles on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook that
all these other people either, you know, living.
I don't think we're emphatic enough with ourselves to even realize those kinds of goals like
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yet.
How should I say this?
We all live different lives.
Okay.
And we all go through this and we all go through different experiences as well.
With that being said, we have to have the mindset to grow and let go of being selfish
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as well.
I feel like those two factors will push you being to being like a more emphatic person.
Nah, I feel you for sure.
Get away from selfishness and get towards selfless.
That makes sense.
That is good.
Like we like, I'm pretty sure I said it in the last episode too.
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Like we all live in this world.
Like we're all one of the same.
We all, we all wake up.
We all have to go to work.
We all have, we all have to go to sleep.
Like we, I would hate to say we all live the same lives, but we all live, you know, on
the same earth.
So it's kind of crazy how we don't, how we don't shift and how we don't grow together.
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Yeah.
And then it's on top of that, like, like how you were speaking on growth, right?
Part of growing is, you know, taking the time and, you know, put somebody else before yourself.
You know what I'm saying?
That's all a part of growing.
You know what I'm saying?
So definitely, definitely, sometimes you're going to have to put yourself or put somebody
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else before you, right?
Help somebody and, and retire, you know, you helping yourself.
You know, for sure.
I feel like, but I feel like our growth, our culture has grown too fast or either, either
it's growing too fast or it's growing in a direction that I'd hate to say it.
I'm not, not a lot of us agree with.
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So like Mr. 912, how, like how has the shift or growth in our, in our culture affected
your views on self empathy?
So can I ask you just for clarity?
So then are you saying how has like the way that our society has, you know, like evolved
like affected the way that I view it?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
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Um, actually, yeah, just like that.
Yeah, man.
I would just say that, you know, kind of like back to what y'all were saying, like, I think
it just takes an effort to try to get to understand somebody.
Like it's kind of like the easy, like I need to do some of that actually.
Wait, where you at with it?
You know, the nephews in here, they're going to put it up.
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I leave my drink.
I know.
But, uh, I think it just takes effort, man, to try to get to understand somebody.
Like it's easy to see somebody differently who has a different life experience and say,
oh, that's like, that's wrong.
This is an ad or like just to, like you was talking about judging, like it's the easy
way out, but it takes effort to try to get to understand somebody and see like from their
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point of view.
Easy way out.
Yeah, man.
But I just try to do that.
Try to be a good person.
Uh, you know, like I feel like it's rewarding, you know, like it feels bad when you see somebody
different than you or like these, these like global conflicts and you know, like whatever
the case may be, just like shit on somebody.
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Like, man, like, I mean, for me personally, like it just doesn't make me feel good.
So I just try to put myself in someone else's shoes.
So no, definitely.
I have been trying to understand people from their point of view.
Like you said, put myself in their point in like their shoes.
Um, that is the best way to be emphatic and honestly, like that's the best way to help
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somebody too.
You know, like, you know, he come, he can ever come to me with something he going through,
you know what I'm saying, the best way I can answer, give them a possible solution is to,
you know, put myself in that situation and then kind of talk to them.
And then we had that I'd be able to understand where he coming from, be able to give them
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a better solution or answer to whatever it is.
No, no, that asked, um, nah, that asked because like you literally don't know like what person
is going through unless you try to put yourself in their shoes, try to, try to put yourself
through that scenario.
Um, because people literally go through different things throughout the day.
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In fact, how many people are on this earth?
Like six billion or something like that.
That's like six billion different problems that people can go through.
But like, it's literally a lot of problems in this world to a lot of people have, have,
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have a apathetic approach towards it, you know, because it's so much shit that goes
through the world.
You know, they just, for instance, all this shit that we went through in deployment turned
us into apathetic people, dog.
Like we, like we did not feel.
No, that's a, that's a fact.
That is a fact.
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Yeah.
That's a big fact.
I had to go to therapy, had to go to therapy and nothing wrong with therapy.
Oh, you know what I'm saying?
Uh, we need to go through it.
Then go through it.
You feel me?
It's going to help you.
So I did a little bit of therapy too, cause I felt like I needed to talk to somebody,
man.
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Hey, but yeah, man.
I'm pretty sure I told you bro.
Well, I mean, it was, it was kind of a while ago, honestly, like two years ago.
I mean, I ain't gonna hold you bad.
Like, you know, I'll be going myself, you know what I'm saying?
Cause I mean, put myself in your shoes.
I mean, I can imagine it's like, but all these different things going on throughout the day,
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you're like, man, let me just turn it off.
You feel me?
Like, let me just turn the feelings off that way.
Make it through the day, make it through these nine months, 18 months, whatever the case
may be.
But other people may not have that life experience.
So they're like, man, like why are you this way?
Like they haven't been through what y'all been through.
So you know what I'm saying?
Like it all comes together.
Well, there's nothing wrong with that either.
Like I said, we all go through different experiences, 6 billion different people on here.
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It's going to be 6 billion different problems.
That's the way we can, like the best way we can like make this a better world for everyone
is to be emphatic and actually put yourself in their shoes and see like, what exactly
is this problem?
So for instance, let's say that Luke is like Luke the greatest is going to do some shit.
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Say you got into a car accident.
Oh shit.
Oh, I don't see.
He already hurt just the thought of it.
That hellcat.
It's gone.
It's gone.
I can't like, I can't understand because I don't have a hellcat myself, but I like,
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I know how expensive health care started.
Like I know the work that Luke the greatest put into his car life.
So I can be emphatic towards his feelings and his emotions, you know, in that sense.
And that's all it is.
That's all it takes to understanding.
Yeah.
You know, people from going through something, right.
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So that did happen.
You know, the only thing I really want for you is to hear me out, you know, put yourself
in my shoes, you know, understand how I'm feeling.
Then you could be able to give me a good response or a good answer or possibly a solution to,
you know, get me back to where I was.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
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Yo, Mr. Now, would you say that you're an emphatic or an apathetic person?
So we speak a little bit.
I know, I know you're very, you have a very stoic approach.
I mean, whichever one you are, like, are you cool with being that type of person?
Like I think, you know, going going going through life right now?
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Yeah, I would say probably 70 to 80 per percent of the time I try to be empathetic, you know,
this day to day.
But there are but but there is that 20 percent of the time when, you know, you got things
that you need to do, goals, trying to get from point A to point B, where I view guys
you just kind of turn it off, it's like, hey, I'm kind of like, I just don't give a damn.
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I ain't gonna hold you.
I feel it, bro.
I feel it.
I feel it too.
That's a story for another day.
Yeah, that's a story for another day.
Because like I was saying, I mean, being on the boat, you know, like it won't serve you
like, man, this and that, like this going on up in here.
I'm staying to watch my girl back home tripping is like, it's just too much going on.
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You know what I'm saying?
Like it's not like you can't perform thinking about all these different things.
So, you know, like in that case, you have to be apathetic.
But I mean, for me personally, like I try to be empathetic because I mean, kind of like
what I was saying before, like I think that some people just want to be understood and
then heard out because that doesn't feel the best when somebody like when you share something
with somebody and then they invalidate what you're telling them, you know what I'm saying?
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It wasn't that bad.
And that doesn't really, you know, serve anybody.
So no, I guess you know, like, like literally, I feel like we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we,
we downplay people situations a lot.
We don't understand it.
Yeah.
That's not how, you know, like our situation, man, it's the worst thing is hell on earth.
But everybody else is like, man, she ain't that bad.
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Come on, though.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, like it's funny how they go sometimes.
You kind of got to like, for me, you kind of got to catch yourself.
You're like, hey, like, you know, like I might be tripping here, you know.
So yeah, so.
No, that's not that.
That makes a lot of sense, bro.
Like a lot of things I feel like I'd be tripping on, but I feel like.
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See the seed that does see that that's that's I think you need a perfect blend of being
apathetic and empathetic.
Yeah, I'm a I'm a black for sure.
Honestly, I did have an experience a couple of years ago, but I used to definitely be
empathetic when it came to like, you know, like people on the street or whatever, you
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know, you have the light and they got the signs up or whatever.
And then, you know, I will always if I got it, I'll give it to them.
You know what I'm saying?
Whatever is in my car.
You know, I got a little everybody got it.
Whatever change you got, you usually just put it in like the armrest, whatever.
I would give it all to them.
But I had this experience when I went back home to Detroit where I went to the gas station
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and there was a guy, you know, obviously he was, you know, homeless and, you know, wasn't
doing so hot or whatever.
And I had some change or whatever.
And I was like, here, but I got much.
But I got this for you.
Whatever.
You know, he was he was thankful.
He was grateful for it.
And then I go in the gas station and I'm getting some gas or whatever.
Get to do some money to go to the gas pump.
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And the dude come in and he come up to the counter with some Ford Loco or whatever, something
like that.
He literally told the guys here, he said, I finally got enough.
He used what I gave him to buy a Ford Loco.
So that's kind of when I was kind of like, I don't really know about giving money to
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these people, even though I got it just because of that situation.
I'm saying so that's kind of way or kind of a reason why I'm kind of a blend of both.
No, I get it.
I get it.
Like I said, like we all like we're six with six billion different people in this world.
Who's to say that, you know, that you're the only one that went through that situation?
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Like I completely get it because like I've had I've had instances where I would give
somebody some bread and then I'll watch them get in and then Mercedes.
Oh, damn.
This happened.
I was ready to fight.
I got to fight.
No, I got to fight.
Somebody somebody's people you like do that as a job.
The last time I experienced that was like when I was in Virginia.
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This was like 2016, 2017 type shit.
The world might have changed.
You might be my change a little bit.
But man, it's yeah, no, you need the perfect blend of being a pathetic and apathetic.
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But it's kind of tough in that situation, man, because I really do feel for that person.
I feel like a lot of us are stuck in our ways and just stuck in a way that like like you're
in the twilight zone or something like that and you can't get out of it.
I just I just I don't know.
I wish I wish I knew that that homeless man's like situation a little bit more better.
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But I I get it.
Like because I like I said, I've had I've had instances where I gave somebody some bread.
They got in today and today new Mercedes Benz today.
They're better than mine, like what?
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I'm in my military uniform driving a dirty Camaro and you asking me for money.
Yeah, man.
So fortunately, I like some people kind of messing up for everybody else, because I'm
sure there are some legitimately homeless people out there.
But sometimes you're like, man, are they hustling or scamming or they just like a damn junkie?
But you know, I try to feel when you come in from my back and turn you off.
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It's like, damn, I just gave you something.
Then you over here.
Yeah, and yeah, and you're fucking it up for the next man.
And actually, as a kid when I was in Detroit and one day I was going to school and off
the on this corner used to be all the always a dude in a wheelchair, you know, holding
up his sign.
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Right.
And then one day I had a half day.
Right.
I had a half day at school and my mom picked me up.
We're going home and we're going past this guy and he was literally pushing the wheelchair,
like walking it down the street.
So my whole life, bro, I thought he was legs was like, you know, handicap, like he couldn't
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use his legs.
So it kind of blew me away.
Like, huh?
Like you got legs.
You got legs, bro.
You can work.
You know what I'm saying?
Hey, yo.
I'm telling you, bro, that's crazy.
Yeah.
I've had it.
Niggas hustle me in the Navy, too.
And I know, hey, hey, Mr. Not 12.
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You was you was you in the service?
Yeah, man.
The coach.
Oh, yeah.
Definitely a veteran.
Yeah.
OK, OK.
Cool.
Cool.
Yeah.
I want us to get to talk about talking about the Navy or whatever.
But you know, you know, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I remember when you're here.
You know, he spent his time in the Coast Guard.
I mean, you know, like I mean, so was like sitting like Luke, was you on that boat with
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Sean?
Like whenever you're on.
Yeah.
OK.
So I figured something.
Yeah.
But I remember that I was like, yeah, whatever you are with 2016, 17.
Yeah.
As I can imagine, we got a dirt be going on a lot of dirty.
Maybe a lot of stuff going on.
People don't know.
People don't know.
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I mean, I remember that I was dirty on that boat.
It's a dirty game.
A lot of athetetic people on that boat.
So.
Bunch of niggas ain't give a fuck on that boat.
Oh, God.
And then, bro, my first deployment, bro, I think I was on I was on the TR.
That was my first deployment.
And you know how you got the barbershop or whatever.
You go down there, whatever.
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They just going to give you the traditional military cut, right?
Just like a military cut.
It turns out if you pay them, they cut their hair legit.
People don't notice.
But like some of those like they are legit barbers.
They learn how to cut hair.
So bullshit like if they give you a fucked up cut, they don't like you.
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They don't like you.
If you get a cut, they learn how to cut hair.
If you get a fucked up haircut from those people, they do not like your ass.
They are very apathetic.
Or see, they only speak one language.
They are funny.
Tip to tip Navy cad.
Yes, sir.
Spend your deployment money on them haircuts.
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Oh, God.
I learned to catch a damn.
So I was so apathetic towards those barbers.
I said, fuck you, man.
I'm going to learn how to cut.
So one time, this shit is funny.
This shit is funny as hell.
I was cutting Luke the Great's hair one time.
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We'll call this other person R. So R asked me for a haircut like a day prior.
I said, no, man, I don't cut people's hair.
I'm sorry.
I do not cut people's hair.
See, there's one thing I do, bro.
I am very, very, very careful about my tongue.
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A haircut is like an hour or two.
I'm trying to get to the gym.
Oh, I remember this.
Actually, I don't think about it.
So the next day, Luke asked me for a haircut.
I was like, yeah, I got you, bro.
I mean, that's the nigga.
So we're in our living area.
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It's called a birthing.
So we're in the lounge area of the birthing.
And I'm cutting Luke's hair.
My man R come walking into birthing.
He couldn't believe his eyes.
I don't cut your hair.
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He couldn't believe his eyes, man.
Oh, God.
No, that was fucked up.
I really don't cut anybody's hair.
I only cut two other people's hair, like Luke and D. D is another person.
Yo, you know, he's coming back.
San Diego on the town tomorrow to work like station.
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I don't know.
He said he was coming back.
I think it's been two years since he's been in Spain.
So our boys, he's been in Spain for the past two years.
Before that, we was emphatic on beating his ass in two K.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
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Emphatically beating that ass in two K. I'm sorry, D.
Damn, catch your strings.
I'm sorry, D. Man.
Yeah, that's two K. So, man, so I'm not very emphatic towards our hip hop today.
But Mr. Now into your opinions on hip hop today, like changing our community.
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Is it for the better or for the worse?
You're trying to get me canceled, man.
He just started trying to get him canceled.
I mean, so I ain't going to hold you back.
We going after these mumbling motherfuckers.
I ain't going to hold you back.
So like, I live in Atlanta.
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You know, like, there is this sense of like, I love myself, the vibe, the culture.
I ain't going to hold you.
Some of this stuff is trash.
It's kind of like, man, you got sexy red.
You're pregnant, you know, all this other stuff.
You're like, you're looking kind of rough.
You're just like, man, you know, like, I just can't rock with it.
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You know what I'm saying?
So to answer your question, some of the stuff I like, I don't really look to that for something
to push the culture forward.
But some of the stuff I do kind of shake my head a little bit.
But you know, but I try not to look towards that for like a reference point to push our,
you know, like our society forward.
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So yeah, we're talking about sexy red.
Yeah, with me, bro, it's kind of like, like, I feel you on that.
Like, but then again, my thing is, like, receptive this, like, like, you know, it's like we can
listen to whatever, right?
But it won't affect us in any way, right?
You know, we grow mature adults, whatever.
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But like, I think some of the music, you know, far as like, you know, the gang bang, hip
hop, you know, drugs and doing all this stuff definitely does influence, you know, maybe
people that's, well, primarily younger than us, for sure, that don't really know much
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about life.
And you know, they, they heroes, this rapper, and he pushing these drugs and, you know,
all this wild stuff, and then eventually they follow suit and they start doing that.
And then what they don't understand is kind of like, this person is not doing that, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
He keeps speaking about it because he making money off of it.
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You know what I'm saying?
So it kind of pushed like that false life to like the youth.
And you know, they start doing what these rappers are saying that they are doing when
it's what they not doing.
You know what I'm saying?
If I'm a rapper, bro, I'm just put it in perspective.
I'm a rapper, right?
I started off in the hood, rapping about the hood, this, this and that.
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I get signed.
I'm a multimillionaire.
You think I'm gonna stay there?
Nah, I'm going to Beverly Hills with the white folks, right?
And if this is what's making me money, you know what I'm saying?
Then I'm gonna keep rapping on this because this is what's making me money.
You know what I'm saying?
And I think people just need to understand that don't take it literal.
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You know what I'm saying?
Don't take, you know, I sell drugs, I shoot guns, this and that.
These people is not doing that, bro.
They're not doing that, bro.
They are not signed to a multimillion dollar label, bro, and pushing drugs that don't go
together.
You feel me?
So yeah, it's all for me is just receptiveness or whatever.
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I think these rappers need to take that into account.
That is actually people out there that are listening to them think everything that they
saying is true, and they actually trying to follow that false path that these rappers
are pushing up.
So what I think has changed within recent years, the one word I think is availability.
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So I think niggas have been talking about this shit for the longest.
Like they've literally been talking about this shit in the 90s, early 2000s.
Future was not the first person to lie about taking drugs.
Oh yeah.
But I really think this all falls down on like availability of the music.
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Like you can literally, like it's literally so easy for these younger cats to just record
and upload it on SoundCloud.
And SoundCloud is such a big platform that everyone uses to listen to music for free.
It's really availability, dog.
Like you give everybody all these avenues and these roads to take, they're going to
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take them.
They've always had.
You get it.
Like you've never seen a nigga not take an opportunity.
And since there's more availability in this world, niggas have been taking more opportunities
than not.
So I really think, I really, but like they are definitely influenced.
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They're like, like all this shit is taught and has been taught for a long time.
Since I've probably, I've probably say since like hip hop was created, like niggas have
always tried to push this agenda of them pushing all these drugs, making all this money, fucking
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all these bitches.
Excuse me.
I said we weren't going to come.
You just summed up the whole hip hop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like there are like, you'll find, you'll find artists out there that are, that are
actually true to the art and actually, actually rap.
But like hip hop as a, you know, as a whole, as a general populace, that is really all
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it is.
Yeah.
Nice beats, lyrics about fucking, fucking bitches and getting money and pushing all
these drugs that they've never even seen.
It really is a bad message for all the youth because I don't think they, they have the,
I hate to say it, but the mental capacity to actually think, to be emphatic and see,
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like see through these actions.
Like are people actually doing this shit?
Nah.
Cause you like, like look the greatest of saying, you're not making money and pushing
drugs.
Get the fuck out of here.
You don't walk the red carpet at the Mac Gala and shoot blitz in the street.
Like it don't work like that, bro.
Don't mix.
You feel me?
It don't mix, bro.
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Yeah.
It don't mix at all.
But I mean, but like I feel what Lou was saying.
I mean, if you look at it as entertainment, like that's just what it is.
It's entertainment.
So like if somebody is 12 years old, like they might, like what Sean was saying, they
may not be able to grasp that.
But at this point, I ain't going to hold you like Meg Hot, Glorilla Hot, Flo-Flo-Milly
Hot, you know, I like the women rappers.
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You know, I was just kind of on one with that whole sexy red thing.
I mean, but then from that lens, I was looking at it as like, man, like, you know, she should
really, but no, if I take the other point of view, it's just entertainment.
Like it's just a video.
That's all I want my tripping, you know, so.
But I do.
Nah, I get what you're saying.
Yeah.
I do feel Sean, it's been going on for a long time.
It's like movies or whatever, you know, they're going to keep on making them and keep on making
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money.
So we take it for what it is.
Okay.
Let's do a little scenario.
Hypoterical.
We're going to put ourselves in a strike.
We've never won.
No, let's say for all these hot rappers now, right?
They still hot, right?
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But what they push in is positive.
How do you think that would change society?
Just a question out there.
Anybody can ask.
It really, it really depends on the agenda being pushed and if people are vibing with
it.
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For some reason, everybody resonates with taking drugs, even though I'm pretty sure
90 percent of people that listen to that music do not take drugs at all, which is kind of
fucking crazy.
Yeah.
Like the music does not resonate with people like real life people.
So if it was a song about positivity, first we have to ask ourselves, like, what it was
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it resonate with everyone like is this is this a positive world?
Do you live amongst positive people that will actually listen to the message?
Say that they are hot, but they hot for pushing positivity.
How would that affect society?
Far as you know, the people that that's looking up to them.
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OK, OK, put it like this.
So these rappers are famous now, obviously, for what they rap about.
Right.
And you got like the youth or whoever looking up to them and following the suit.
Now, what if they are hot still today?
But instead of what they were rapping about, everything they rap about is essentially positive.
And they still got the followers and all of that.
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I'm going to be completely honest with you, bro.
Like I cannot imagine a world of clean music like now.
That's why I said hypothetically, I'm trying.
Like I'm trying to think of it.
I'm trying to put myself in a world where people are successful off positive music.
I have yet to see it.
Because we could be hanging on kids, Bob.
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You know, I had a kid.
Bob has been doing it for a minute.
I had a kid, Bob.
See, I can laugh.
I don't know.
I remember now that's what I call music.
They tried doing that, like they tried pushing all these popular songs, you know, trying
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to push them as clean songs too.
I can see them trying to improve society through that way.
But like I literally cannot see, I cannot hypothetically think about a world where our
rappers like Drake, Kendrick Lamar, maybe Kendrick Lamar.
But literally, like I can't picture rappers like Drake, 21 Savage.
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Like all of our most prominent rappers today.
I cannot see them pushing positivity.
They're not pushing P. Sorry.
They're not pushing P. Pushing positivity.
That's what the P stands for, y'all.
Pushing positivity.
Apparently.
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The SWAG stands for, what does SWAG stand for again?
I don't even know.
I never knew.
Yeah, man, that's a whole bunch of stuff.
No, not stand for something.
TH stands for something, but the UG stands for under God.
Yeah, man, that lawyer is like dropping 67, man, coming up with them like acronyms and
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like, yo, this is what this stands for and this and that.
It was crazy.
Have you been watching the Young Duck case?
Not really.
I see a glimpse of it every now and then.
It looked like they about to let them out.
They trolling.
They about to let them out.
Yeah, they trolling.
I guess the prosecutor can come up with like evidence or witnesses or something.
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I was reading, but yeah, they plan on letting them out.
Yeah.
So they started using his songs and I was trying to use his lyrics against them.
Yeah.
Like words like thug or swag.
Like he says their acronyms, they stand for some shit like thug stands for something.
I forgot what I stood for, but it seems like he's about to get out using that tactic.
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Hey, man.
Hey, be like that.
For real.
I was watching a video of one of the YSL niggas just showing out.
You seen him bro?
Like he acted like he acted like he was like playing like he had a mental disability or
did something.
Yeah.
He was playing like he had a mental disability.
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He started spazzing out.
Yeah.
He was like, yeah.
He was pulling out all the stops.
He pulled out all the stops though, talking about song.
Oh man.
I gotta show you that.
Oh man.
He really straight, but that's crazy because that's literally what got him off.
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Yeah.
Oh man.
I wish I have not have no empathy for the Georgia Bulldogs right now.
What?
For real?
No.
Well, I feel like I don't ship after at the curvy smart blue one against Nick Saban and
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the damn Crimson Tide.
Yeah.
Like I know y'all in California.
It's a tough time to be a Georgia resident.
It's hell on earth.
It's hell on earth, man.
I know y'all in Cali with all the sunshine, beaches.
Man, I jump ship to Bamma.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't give a piss about nothing but the tide.
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I'm hurting in Cali right now.
For real?
That's a tough time to be a Georgia resident.
It's crazy, bro.
That's crazy.
Man, niggas was crying.
Y'all gotta tell me what happened.
What is it like?
Last week?
Last week I think, man.
That niggas lost like the Georgia Bulls would usually lose.
That niggas lost a big one.
They always do.
They always lose the important one, dog.
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It is really shitty to be a Georgia citizen, a Georgia resident.
It is, man.
It's hell on earth, man.
Fucking Bamma got in there.
You know, because I ain't, you know, like I'm not a huge fan either, but like Bamma had
got in over Georgia.
So niggas was like, man, I gotta rob with Bamma.
You know, and then this whole, these skits they putting out.
But yeah, they saying Georgia got robbed.
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But it's tough, man.
I'm ashamed to even be in the state, man.
But you know, y'all live in the good life.
It's okay.
Wait, wait, Georgia didn't get into what?
We're not in the playoffs.
Are y'all undefeated?
No, dog, I am literally embarrassed.
I am embarrassed because I was talking all that shit.
Wait, y'all lost to Alabama?
We lost to Alabama.
And got put out.
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And got put the fuck out.
What was y'all record?
Nigga, we was 11-0.
Yeah, I think it was like 11-1.
They ended up losing one.
So it was just this whole big thing.
It's kind of like, oh, they just chose Alabama over Georgia type shit.
And then a whole bunch of...
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Yeah, well, I mean, it does make sense.
They did beat us, but damn, put us out of the entire playoffs.
Yeah, Georgia not in the playoffs?
At all, dog.
At all.
They put Texas in that pitch and cheatin' ass Michigan.
I know you a Michigan fan, but them niggas were cheatin' all season, man.
Damn, why you say they cheatin'?
What?
Them niggas was on the other side of stealing signs.
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What?
All right, we ain't gonna talk about that.
Yeah, that's the guy with the CS and Core.
Nigga, CS and Core.
That boy, Jim Harbaugh.
Jim Harbaugh, greasy rat bastard.
Man, Jim Harbaugh, man.
Aw, dog.
Greasy, man.
He's slippery, too.
Damn well, if it was a greasy dog, he might just run away
and leave Michigan, honestly,
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because that nigga's still not coachin' him.
Nigga suspended his ass.
But his ass might just run out, dog.
Yeah.
Bro, another thing that I'm very apathetic towards, too,
is this damn NBA end-season tournament.
I don't like it.
Yeah.
Like, what really pisses me off about the tournament
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is that point differential rule.
So, like, a team has to score a certain amount of point
to advance to a spot in the tournament.
So, say you're already blowin' out a team 110 to 70.
Well, you need 115 to advance in the tournament.
Last 30 seconds of the clock, and you're at 110 points,
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but you're already beating somebody out by 40 points.
And they're trying to score these five points
just to advance in the tournament.
Like, I feel like it takes away, you know,
it tarnishes the good nature of the game
and the sportsmanship behind it,
because niggas really love hoops.
That's weird.
It is weird.
So, like, beating a team is not enough.
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So, Adam Silver implemented the same system
as what they were doing in the FIBA tournament, you know, overseas.
Yeah, they have to score a certain amount of point
to advance in the tournament.
But what if they win, right, but don't get those points?
What happens?
Well, the other point...
Well, the other team has the opportunity to last them.
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Point.
To take their spot.
That's why Indiana made it this far,
because they've been scoring, bro.
Like, they cannot stop scoring points.
So, that's why Indiana's in.
That's weird.
It isn't.
It isn't.
I don't like it at all.
I don't like it at all.
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But then again, $500,000 is on the line.
So, it's just another thing within the NBA
to garner interest.
Really.
Yeah, I'm not liking that.
I know the tournament just started.
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Maybe in the future they'll probably make adjustments
to make it make sense.
But I just thought they just needed to win.
But apparently that's not enough.
You got to get a certain amount of points.
Okay, interesting.
Very interesting.
No, it's weird.
I don't know if you've been watching them.
That's an all-in-one too.
Like, not any games,
but I've just been seeing clips here and there.
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But that's the first I heard about that, man.
That's crazy.
That is kind of wild.
Yeah, me too.
FIBA stuff over.
I'm like, man, leave that stuff over there, man.
It's America.
It's a free country.
What made this country so great?
You're right, man.
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I thought it was wild, man.
Because they get the $500,000 if you win.
Even if somebody's not on the VET minimum,
whatever that amount is, these dudes got millions.
Man, Braun was like, yo, man, I need that $500,000.
I might use that on some vacations for my daughter.
Like, bro, you're not fooling nobody, man.
That nigga Braun is a billionaire.
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That nigga Braun is a billionaire
and is playing for that $500,000 like he never had it.
I know.
They're taking it back to the basics, man.
Scrappy.
On God, like, that is the mentality to have.
Like, you can call it being selfish.
You can call it being greedy.
Hell, money make the world go round.
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I'm sorry.
Yeah?
Um...
I guess...
Is that my phone?
I didn't need that.
Nah, my girl only texted me.
Well, I forgot to text her back.
Excuse me.
Sorry.
Well, yeah, nah, I really don't like...
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I really don't...
Well, I try not...
I really don't watch the NBA during the, you know, during the...
Damn 82 games.
Yeah, man.
It's too many damn games.
Literally way too many games, bro.
Thanks.
All right, go ahead, go ahead.
I wish they cut down the games, honestly.
You wish they could what?
I wish they cut down the games.
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Wow, yeah.
Like college?
No, cut down the NBA games.
82 games is too much, dog.
It is literally too much.
I wish it was 60.
Like, you think they should cut it to 60 or 40 or something?
60 sounds good.
These niggas don't play about 60 games anyway.
Yeah, man, all this load management, man.
You got to save them knees.
Oh, gosh.
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Oh, gosh.
These be like...
I mean, them knees be crying for air, man.
They be gasping for air.
Every time you see LeBron after a game,
his knees be wrapped up in like,
really bad ice, dog.
That nigga from Hawaii stays in those knee wraps all the time.
Yeah, these niggas don't play 82 games.
That's fucking crazy.
Who's the last person to play 82 games?
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I don't know.
I don't even know, bro.
That's a lot of games, bro.
82 games, bro.
Anybody got time to play 82 games, bro.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, that's a lot of games.
Yeah.
It's like baseball, ain't it?
Baseball.
Baseball got like 160-something games.
That's a lot of games.
Baseball got like 160-something games.
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That's another sport that needs to fucking cut down.
But then, baseball, then again,
I guess they're not really having that super set on their body,
like NBA or NFL or whatever.
For the majority of the game, they're standing in one spot.
That's true.
A lot better than what it's like for the majority of the game.
You don't call it what it is.
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They be standing in one spot.
I feel like it's better to be...
I feel like it's better to be a pro professional basketball player anyway
because they get the holidays, bro.
Like, they see it's been done for two months now.
And they're about to get back into it in March.
So they get to experience Thanksgiving, Christmas,
all that shit without it being in the season.
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Baseball players got it made.
And them niggas be making money, too.
Oh, God, bro.
Them niggas be making hella bread.
They be watching that shit.
I go to baseball games, but the last Padres game I went to,
I was fucked up.
I didn't even watch the game.
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I was just enjoying the buying souvenirs and nachos and drinkers.
That's all I was...
Yeah, man.
It's the same thing.
That was me the last Padres game.
Who was it? Mr. 912.
I don't know, but it's just an excuse for me to drink, like you said,
cop a glizzy and just hang out.
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Oh, God.
Cop a glizzy, get you a little beer.
I don't care what people say.
I don't like hot dogs.
Oh, yeah.
I don't care what people say.
Oh, yeah.
I'll fuck up a co-e from 7-Eleven any day.
Yeah, I don't care.
Put some mustard, ketchup, and relish on that, baby.
This shit is good.
But, hey, Mr. 912, where you from?
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Like, I know I'm from Detroit.
I know Sean, you from...
Is it Savannah?
In the area.
In the area.
Okay.
Where you from?
So I'm also from that area.
It's a city called Hounsville, Georgia.
Like, it's near Savannah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like that.
Yeah, like, we're both from Hounsville.
Yeah.
From the bill, 912.
Yeah.
Look it up.
Nah, that shit about to grow, bro.
The bill about to grow.
That's what they say.
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Yeah, man.
I mean, they, you know, they trying to do a little something, but, you know,
I support it.
So like, like, our area is growing.
I don't know that, you know, that we're starting to build any new things.
Y'all starting to finally tear down them old car factories.
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Every time I go home, it's something new.
Fun fact, Detroit just opened up, or I don't know if it's open open, but it's not this
is in the work.
I know it's finished, but they built a road where it's specifically for electric cars.
But as electric cars ride on that road, they get charged.
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That's interesting.
What?
Yeah.
Dang.
I said the same thing.
I was like, huh?
Yo, listen, I want to, I know, I know you've seen, um, Atlanta's getting a new road.
I know you're very emphatic about that.
So where is this at? Like, is this like a new highway or like, low-wear?
Man, they are opening up another way to get to Atlanta.
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I forgot what it was, but it's definitely on that, on that, uh, on that Georgia page
that we follow on IG.
Yeah, not as wild, because like I saw something where they was building like a railway from
the airport to Charlotte, but I'm not sure if that was like the same thing he was talking
about.
So, dog, they were supposed to do that over here in San Diego, try to build this underground
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railroad from, from San Diego to LA.
They were supposed to do that.
Really?
So, so was that the Elon Musk thing where they're like, they're going under like all
the traffic just to cut down on like the travel time?
Yeah, no, definitely.
It's definitely to cut down on all that traffic.
Cause I know you'd be watching the news.
We'd be suffering after Thanksgiving.
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Man, it's crazy, man.
Like I've seen that, but then my old lady, man, like she was in LA and then she was telling
me, yo, like it's like similar to here, but only worse.
I'm like, man, like I feel worse.
Yeah.
I'm 20 miles from work.
You can drive 20 miles and let's say 22 minutes, right?
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Doing like the speed limit in the morning or whatever when I'm going to work, bro, it's
like 45 minutes, bro.
So now, but then all the time you leave.
Definitely when I'm, when I'm leaving work, when I, when I was at a job, like it would
take me an hour to get to work.
I mean an hour to get home.
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45 minutes of that is sitting on the damn end of the street.
Yeah.
Because these niggas don't fucking drive.
I don't think these niggas drive.
I don't think these niggas drive.
I mean, that's my personal opinion.
I don't think people be driving.
But then again, I do make it home.
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So I guess niggas do drive.
But well, I guess that's all that matters.
Despite the insane traffic.
I was curious.
I mean, so like for you guys, like have you all with San Diego being so close to Mexico,
have you guys gone back and forth at all or, or no?
We can.
I mean, honestly, if we wanted to, we could, I haven't been to Mexico personally.
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I have had friends who do go over there consistently.
So you can't get it.
It's like right there too, bro.
It's not like far at all.
The border from here, bro, it's probably like 25, 30 miles.
What is it?
South?
We're literally 30 minutes away from downtown TJ right now.
That's crazy.
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It'll take me some time to get over there because we all know how TJ is.
Even us that don't live in California know how, how they get routing in Tijuana.
See, man, I've heard stories and rumors, but I was trying to hear it from the horse's
mouse, but I mean, I don't want to step on any toes of the different.
We actually have a story to that.
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So remember that white girl that used to get her phone taken all the time?
Yeah.
Every time we step out, she would get her phone taken.
Oh my God.
Somebody was steal her phone.
Every time we went out, probably cause she'd be, it's literally in her purse and then
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niggas go in that bitch and take that shit every time.
Oh my goodness.
The only time he doesn't get thinking is when it's in my back pocket.
Anytime I get it back there, that shit gets taken.
Jesus man.
The pickpocketer.
I'm so sorry.
Anytime that shit was not in my hands, then like they will take her phone and then we'll
do the find my phone shit.
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That shit in Tijuana.
Every single fucking time.
It's a wrap.
It is a wrap.
Every single time.
It gets across the border.
That thing, huh?
It's over with.
Yeah.
It's over with.
I was like, while I was in the Navy, I was going to this class and this dude in my class
that has cars stolen during the week.
Guess where he found his car at?
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TJ.
Maybe.
I won't even drive my car to TJ.
No sir.
I won't even park outside the border because even that's risky.
Well you found it.
It's too late.
Your car, everything on that car is gone.
You don't get a frame.
Baby a door.
Not even.
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Not even because the frame, the body nice too.
They might just use the body and put any old shit in it.
No, your car will be gone.
Like traces gone.
Literally.
Because that dude I went to class with, he gave his car back.
Oh girl, I never got her phone back.
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Man, it's just.
Hey, what goes in TJ stay in TJ.
But actually I want to go one day.
Maybe one day when the niggas, when we can all make plans or whatever.
Yeah.
But for now I am apathetic towards that place.
They need to improve their community.
Sorry.
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But shit, we are out of time.
This is it.
We made it to the end.
That shit did go by quick.
Bro, Mr. 912, we got to have you back though bro.
Definitely put something together, have you back.
I think it went good bro.
I think it went good.
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Yeah man.
We really do appreciate you having here and having your opinions and what not.
Hey well no, I mean I appreciate y'all.
I know that we are just trying to work it out with the timing and everything like that.
But yeah, I am down for it.
You know how niggas beat what time.
Hey man, I want SCP time.
I am still in shot for some reason.
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Myself.
But, well shit.
We really do appreciate you Mr. 912 for being on the show.
We are definitely going to see you about having you on again.
But thank you for coming on.
Thank you for everyone tuning in to episode 7.
We do appreciate everyone.
Everyone's love and support.
And with that being said, peace out.
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Peace out.
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Peace out.
What's up?
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What's good everyone?
Shit.
This is the healing club podcast episode seven.
We have a guest.
Y'all can see him right now.
My boy, my boy, Mr. 912.
Hey man.
Mr. 912, go ahead and introduce yourself.
Hey man.
Well, first of all, you know, thanks for having me on here.
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So my name is Hamilton Thomas.
I'm a friend of Sean's and then he told me about this podcast, raising awareness for
mental health.
I'm like, yeah, for sure.
You know, it's definitely something I can stand behind.
And like you said, like it's very conversational.
So I'm just looking forward to it.
We appreciate you having me here.
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Yeah, we're definitely, we're definitely dedicated to being the number one mental health awareness
podcast for everyone.
And we do appreciate your support.
Yes, sir.
My nigga, Mr. 912.
It really is just niggas on here just chatting it up.
Honestly.
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Hey, I saw first guess.
We're gonna see how it is.
Go.
Yes, sir.
It's the first.
Yeah, bro, you were first one.
Hey, you know, me.
But we're gonna go ahead and get started.
So first and foremost, if anybody's out there hurting, going through any pain, seeking like
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if you need professional help, there is a hotline out there for those that are that
are thinking of suicide or, you know, things along the lines.
There is a three digit number for that, the services are there for you.
The excuse me, the digits are 988.
You can call or text that number.
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People are there on the other side to help you.
Not definitely, you know, and remember, just like we always say, it's all confidential.
You don't have to worry about, you know, people you don't want finding out what you're going
through is all private between you and whoever's working in your situation.
Definitely reach out if you feel like you at that point.
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But, um, yeah, today's episode is going to be on empathy.
What is empathy?
To start off with.
So empathy is the ability to understand and share another person's emotions and experiences.
Why is that important to today's society?
I feel like we don't see enough empathy, especially with our youth, man.
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I just feel like Nick, like Nick, like Nick is, they literally get.
No, I should say that.
Empathy in like easy understandable terms, it's literally putting yourself in that other
person's shoes.
Right.
And like you said, we don't really see a lot of it nowadays because everybody just quick
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to judge.
But, you know, you ain't got to judge nobody.
If you put yourself in their shoes and understand where they coming from, you will see why they
feeling like they feel.
You instead, you can actually help somebody rather than throw more dirt on them.
You know what I mean?
So not dead ass like, um, I, I think it stems from a lot of selfishness, dog.
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Like I really think people are selfish these days.
Um, why do I think people are selfish?
I don't think we think about the big picture like enough.
And you're definitely onto something with what you said.
Um, I think at all, it all, it all stems out that selfishness.
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Like I think people are just only like, I, you really can't call it selfish, but what
do you call it when people only think about themselves?
Selfish.
Like, yeah, I don't think you can call it anything else.
Right?
So these days, like these days, dog, we literally try to justify everything, like literally
everything that people do out in this world that we try to justify it.
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Well, I like, and that's why I try to find another word for, you know, another way of
calling people that are apathetic, you know, like, I really think it stems down to selfish
like being selfish, but really can't not, not in today's society.
You can't, you can't just call it, bro.
Like even with the whole guy and female thing, right?
You feel bad or you want to help out a lady and they call you a, a simp.
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You know what I'm saying?
So it definitely is today's society that we definitely more judgmental before we, or more
judgmental now than back then it was, it was like, okay, so you see somebody going through
something you would lend a hand if you could, right, but nowadays it's like every man for
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himself.
No facts, man.
That's, that's, that's actually kind of crazy.
That's the nine one two.
How do you, how do you view empathy and apathy in today's society?
Yeah, no, man.
So like, I like what both of y'all said, like what Luke was saying is just, put yourself
in someone else's shoes.
So even like a couple of years back, you know, so let's say now they got, you know, how you
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could take time off after you have a child or like postpartum depression.
I was ignorant of that.
I'm like, man, like what is that?
You know, like whatever the case may be.
So for the rest of my natural life, I'll never be able to have that experience firsthand.
You know what I'm saying?
However, I can read about it, educate myself and then try to put myself in someone else's
shoes and be like, okay, cool.
This is why they would feel the way that they feel.
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You know what I'm saying?
And not just like both of y'all were saying, being selfish and brushing it off.
Oh, that ain't real.
Why are you doing this and that?
That's not, you know, that's not it.
So that's not, I get you.
I feel like we, we don't, we don't try to understand people anymore.
So I actually get, I actually get what you're saying.
Um, yeah, no, those are definitely good points.
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Yeah.
Then I feel like a lot of, a lot of people today are followers, bro.
Like you can not know a person.
All right, hold on.
Let me put it like this.
So you don't know a person, right?
But you know a person that don't like this person, right?
They're right off the bat.
You get convinced that, you know, from this person that, Hey, this person ain't shit.
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So you shouldn't like them.
And then rather than, you know, somebody trying to get a feel for themselves and, you know,
come up with their own, however they feel about it, they just take what somebody else
say and they shit on a person too.
You know what?
I see that a lot.
Like people literally do not think for themselves these days anymore.
I get what you mean.
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I see it a lot on social media too.
We try to follow these perfect lifestyles on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook that
all these other people either, you know, living.
I don't think we're emphatic enough with ourselves to even realize those kinds of goals like
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yet.
How should I say this?
We all live different lives.
Okay.
And we all go through this and we all go through different experiences as well.
With that being said, we have to have the mindset to grow and let go of being selfish
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as well.
I feel like those two factors will push you being to being like a more emphatic person.
Nah, I feel you for sure.
Get away from selfishness and get towards selfless.
That makes sense.
That is good.
Like we like, I'm pretty sure I said it in the last episode too.
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Like we all live in this world.
Like we're all one of the same.
We all, we all wake up.
We all have to go to work.
We all have, we all have to go to sleep.
Like we, I would hate to say we all live the same lives, but we all live, you know, on
the same earth.
So it's kind of crazy how we don't, how we don't shift and how we don't grow together.
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Yeah.
And then it's on top of that, like, like how you were speaking on growth, right?
Part of growing is, you know, taking the time and, you know, put somebody else before yourself.
You know what I'm saying?
That's all a part of growing.
You know what I'm saying?
So definitely, definitely, sometimes you're going to have to put yourself or put somebody
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else before you, right?
Help somebody and, and retire, you know, you helping yourself.
You know, for sure.
I feel like, but I feel like our growth, our culture has grown too fast or either, either
it's growing too fast or it's growing in a direction that I'd hate to say it.
I'm not, not a lot of us agree with.
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So like Mr. 912, how, like how has the shift or growth in our, in our culture affected
your views on self empathy?
So can I ask you just for clarity?
So then are you saying how has like the way that our society has, you know, like evolved
like affected the way that I view it?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
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Um, actually, yeah, just like that.
Yeah, man.
I would just say that, you know, kind of like back to what y'all were saying, like, I think
it just takes an effort to try to get to understand somebody.
Like it's kind of like the easy, like I need to do some of that actually.
Wait, where you at with it?
You know, the nephews in here, they're going to put it up.
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I leave my drink.
I know.
But, uh, I think it just takes effort, man, to try to get to understand somebody.
Like it's easy to see somebody differently who has a different life experience and say,
oh, that's like, that's wrong.
This is an ad or like just to, like you was talking about judging, like it's the easy
way out, but it takes effort to try to get to understand somebody and see like from their
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point of view.
Easy way out.
Yeah, man.
But I just try to do that.
Try to be a good person.
Uh, you know, like I feel like it's rewarding, you know, like it feels bad when you see somebody
different than you or like these, these like global conflicts and you know, like whatever
the case may be, just like shit on somebody.
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Like, man, like, I mean, for me personally, like it just doesn't make me feel good.
So I just try to put myself in someone else's shoes.
So no, definitely.
I have been trying to understand people from their point of view.
Like you said, put myself in their point in like their shoes.
Um, that is the best way to be emphatic and honestly, like that's the best way to help
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somebody too.
You know, like, you know, he come, he can ever come to me with something he going through,
you know what I'm saying, the best way I can answer, give them a possible solution is to,
you know, put myself in that situation and then kind of talk to them.
And then we had that I'd be able to understand where he coming from, be able to give them
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a better solution or answer to whatever it is.
No, no, that asked, um, nah, that asked because like you literally don't know like what person
is going through unless you try to put yourself in their shoes, try to, try to put yourself
through that scenario.
Um, because people literally go through different things throughout the day.
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In fact, how many people are on this earth?
Like six billion or something like that.
That's like six billion different problems that people can go through.
But like, it's literally a lot of problems in this world to a lot of people have, have,
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have a apathetic approach towards it, you know, because it's so much shit that goes
through the world.
You know, they just, for instance, all this shit that we went through in deployment turned
us into apathetic people, dog.
Like we, like we did not feel.
No, that's a, that's a fact.
That is a fact.
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Yeah.
That's a big fact.
I had to go to therapy, had to go to therapy and nothing wrong with therapy.
Oh, you know what I'm saying?
Uh, we need to go through it.
Then go through it.
You feel me?
It's going to help you.
So I did a little bit of therapy too, cause I felt like I needed to talk to somebody,
man.
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Hey, but yeah, man.
I'm pretty sure I told you bro.
Well, I mean, it was, it was kind of a while ago, honestly, like two years ago.
I mean, I ain't gonna hold you bad.
Like, you know, I'll be going myself, you know what I'm saying?
Cause I mean, put myself in your shoes.
I mean, I can imagine it's like, but all these different things going on throughout the day,
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you're like, man, let me just turn it off.
You feel me?
Like, let me just turn the feelings off that way.
Make it through the day, make it through these nine months, 18 months, whatever the case
may be.
But other people may not have that life experience.
So they're like, man, like why are you this way?
Like they haven't been through what y'all been through.
So you know what I'm saying?
Like it all comes together.
Well, there's nothing wrong with that either.
Like I said, we all go through different experiences, 6 billion different people on here.
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It's going to be 6 billion different problems.
That's the way we can, like the best way we can like make this a better world for everyone
is to be emphatic and actually put yourself in their shoes and see like, what exactly
is this problem?
So for instance, let's say that Luke is like Luke the greatest is going to do some shit.
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Say you got into a car accident.
Oh shit.
Oh, I don't see.
He already hurt just the thought of it.
That hellcat.
It's gone.
It's gone.
I can't like, I can't understand because I don't have a hellcat myself, but I like,
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I know how expensive health care started.
Like I know the work that Luke the greatest put into his car life.
So I can be emphatic towards his feelings and his emotions, you know, in that sense.
And that's all it is.
That's all it takes to understanding.
Yeah.
You know, people from going through something, right.
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So that did happen.
You know, the only thing I really want for you is to hear me out, you know, put yourself
in my shoes, you know, understand how I'm feeling.
Then you could be able to give me a good response or a good answer or possibly a solution to,
you know, get me back to where I was.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
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Yo, Mr. Now, would you say that you're an emphatic or an apathetic person?
So we speak a little bit.
I know, I know you're very, you have a very stoic approach.
I mean, whichever one you are, like, are you cool with being that type of person?
Like I think, you know, going going going through life right now?
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Yeah, I would say probably 70 to 80 per percent of the time I try to be empathetic, you know,
this day to day.
But there are but but there is that 20 percent of the time when, you know, you got things
that you need to do, goals, trying to get from point A to point B, where I view guys
you just kind of turn it off, it's like, hey, I'm kind of like, I just don't give a damn.
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I ain't gonna hold you.
I feel it, bro.
I feel it.
I feel it too.
That's a story for another day.
Yeah, that's a story for another day.
Because like I was saying, I mean, being on the boat, you know, like it won't serve you
like, man, this and that, like this going on up in here.
I'm staying to watch my girl back home tripping is like, it's just too much going on.
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You know what I'm saying?
Like it's not like you can't perform thinking about all these different things.
So, you know, like in that case, you have to be apathetic.
But I mean, for me personally, like I try to be empathetic because I mean, kind of like
what I was saying before, like I think that some people just want to be understood and
then heard out because that doesn't feel the best when somebody like when you share something
with somebody and then they invalidate what you're telling them, you know what I'm saying?
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It wasn't that bad.
And that doesn't really, you know, serve anybody.
So no, I guess you know, like, like literally, I feel like we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we,
we downplay people situations a lot.
We don't understand it.
Yeah.
That's not how, you know, like our situation, man, it's the worst thing is hell on earth.
But everybody else is like, man, she ain't that bad.
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Come on, though.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, like it's funny how they go sometimes.
You kind of got to like, for me, you kind of got to catch yourself.
You're like, hey, like, you know, like I might be tripping here, you know.
So yeah, so.
No, that's not that.
That makes a lot of sense, bro.
Like a lot of things I feel like I'd be tripping on, but I feel like.
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See the seed that does see that that's that's I think you need a perfect blend of being
apathetic and empathetic.
Yeah, I'm a I'm a black for sure.
Honestly, I did have an experience a couple of years ago, but I used to definitely be
empathetic when it came to like, you know, like people on the street or whatever, you
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know, you have the light and they got the signs up or whatever.
And then, you know, I will always if I got it, I'll give it to them.
You know what I'm saying?
Whatever is in my car.
You know, I got a little everybody got it.
Whatever change you got, you usually just put it in like the armrest, whatever.
I would give it all to them.
But I had this experience when I went back home to Detroit where I went to the gas station
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and there was a guy, you know, obviously he was, you know, homeless and, you know, wasn't
doing so hot or whatever.
And I had some change or whatever.
And I was like, here, but I got much.
But I got this for you.
Whatever.
You know, he was he was thankful.
He was grateful for it.
And then I go in the gas station and I'm getting some gas or whatever.
Get to do some money to go to the gas pump.
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And the dude come in and he come up to the counter with some Ford Loco or whatever, something
like that.
He literally told the guys here, he said, I finally got enough.
He used what I gave him to buy a Ford Loco.
So that's kind of when I was kind of like, I don't really know about giving money to
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these people, even though I got it just because of that situation.
I'm saying so that's kind of way or kind of a reason why I'm kind of a blend of both.
No, I get it.
I get it.
Like I said, like we all like we're six with six billion different people in this world.
Who's to say that, you know, that you're the only one that went through that situation?
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Like I completely get it because like I've had I've had instances where I would give
somebody some bread and then I'll watch them get in and then Mercedes.
Oh, damn.
This happened.
I was ready to fight.
I got to fight.
No, I got to fight.
Somebody somebody's people you like do that as a job.
The last time I experienced that was like when I was in Virginia.
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This was like 2016, 2017 type shit.
The world might have changed.
You might be my change a little bit.
But man, it's yeah, no, you need the perfect blend of being a pathetic and apathetic.
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But it's kind of tough in that situation, man, because I really do feel for that person.
I feel like a lot of us are stuck in our ways and just stuck in a way that like like you're
in the twilight zone or something like that and you can't get out of it.
I just I just I don't know.
I wish I wish I knew that that homeless man's like situation a little bit more better.
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But I I get it.
Like because I like I said, I've had I've had instances where I gave somebody some bread.
They got in today and today new Mercedes Benz today.
They're better than mine, like what?
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I'm in my military uniform driving a dirty Camaro and you asking me for money.
Yeah, man.
So fortunately, I like some people kind of messing up for everybody else, because I'm
sure there are some legitimately homeless people out there.
But sometimes you're like, man, are they hustling or scamming or they just like a damn junkie?
But you know, I try to feel when you come in from my back and turn you off.
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It's like, damn, I just gave you something.
Then you over here.
Yeah, and yeah, and you're fucking it up for the next man.
And actually, as a kid when I was in Detroit and one day I was going to school and off
the on this corner used to be all the always a dude in a wheelchair, you know, holding
up his sign.
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Right.
And then one day I had a half day.
Right.
I had a half day at school and my mom picked me up.
We're going home and we're going past this guy and he was literally pushing the wheelchair,
like walking it down the street.
So my whole life, bro, I thought he was legs was like, you know, handicap, like he couldn't
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use his legs.
So it kind of blew me away.
Like, huh?
Like you got legs.
You got legs, bro.
You can work.
You know what I'm saying?
Hey, yo.
I'm telling you, bro, that's crazy.
Yeah.
I've had it.
Niggas hustle me in the Navy, too.
And I know, hey, hey, Mr. Not 12.
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You was you was you in the service?
Yeah, man.
The coach.
Oh, yeah.
Definitely a veteran.
Yeah.
OK, OK.
Cool.
Cool.
Yeah.
I want us to get to talk about talking about the Navy or whatever.
But you know, you know, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I remember when you're here.
You know, he spent his time in the Coast Guard.
I mean, you know, like I mean, so was like sitting like Luke, was you on that boat with
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Sean?
Like whenever you're on.
Yeah.
OK.
So I figured something.
Yeah.
But I remember that I was like, yeah, whatever you are with 2016, 17.
Yeah.
As I can imagine, we got a dirt be going on a lot of dirty.
Maybe a lot of stuff going on.
People don't know.
People don't know.
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I mean, I remember that I was dirty on that boat.
It's a dirty game.
A lot of athetetic people on that boat.
So.
Bunch of niggas ain't give a fuck on that boat.
Oh, God.
And then, bro, my first deployment, bro, I think I was on I was on the TR.
That was my first deployment.
And you know how you got the barbershop or whatever.
You go down there, whatever.
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They just going to give you the traditional military cut, right?
Just like a military cut.
It turns out if you pay them, they cut their hair legit.
People don't notice.
But like some of those like they are legit barbers.
They learn how to cut hair.
So bullshit like if they give you a fucked up cut, they don't like you.
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They don't like you.
If you get a cut, they learn how to cut hair.
If you get a fucked up haircut from those people, they do not like your ass.
They are very apathetic.
Or see, they only speak one language.
They are funny.
Tip to tip Navy cad.
Yes, sir.
Spend your deployment money on them haircuts.
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Oh, God.
I learned to catch a damn.
So I was so apathetic towards those barbers.
I said, fuck you, man.
I'm going to learn how to cut.
So one time, this shit is funny.
This shit is funny as hell.
I was cutting Luke the Great's hair one time.
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We'll call this other person R. So R asked me for a haircut like a day prior.
I said, no, man, I don't cut people's hair.
I'm sorry.
I do not cut people's hair.
See, there's one thing I do, bro.
I am very, very, very careful about my tongue.
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A haircut is like an hour or two.
I'm trying to get to the gym.
Oh, I remember this.
Actually, I don't think about it.
So the next day, Luke asked me for a haircut.
I was like, yeah, I got you, bro.
I mean, that's the nigga.
So we're in our living area.
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It's called a birthing.
So we're in the lounge area of the birthing.
And I'm cutting Luke's hair.
My man R come walking into birthing.
He couldn't believe his eyes.
I don't cut your hair.
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He couldn't believe his eyes, man.
Oh, God.
No, that was fucked up.
I really don't cut anybody's hair.
I only cut two other people's hair, like Luke and D. D is another person.
Yo, you know, he's coming back.
San Diego on the town tomorrow to work like station.
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I don't know.
He said he was coming back.
I think it's been two years since he's been in Spain.
So our boys, he's been in Spain for the past two years.
Before that, we was emphatic on beating his ass in two K.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
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Emphatically beating that ass in two K. I'm sorry, D.
Damn, catch your strings.
I'm sorry, D. Man.
Yeah, that's two K. So, man, so I'm not very emphatic towards our hip hop today.
But Mr. Now into your opinions on hip hop today, like changing our community.
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Is it for the better or for the worse?
You're trying to get me canceled, man.
He just started trying to get him canceled.
I mean, so I ain't going to hold you back.
We going after these mumbling motherfuckers.
I ain't going to hold you back.
So like, I live in Atlanta.
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You know, like, there is this sense of like, I love myself, the vibe, the culture.
I ain't going to hold you.
Some of this stuff is trash.
It's kind of like, man, you got sexy red.
You're pregnant, you know, all this other stuff.
You're like, you're looking kind of rough.
You're just like, man, you know, like, I just can't rock with it.
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You know what I'm saying?
So to answer your question, some of the stuff I like, I don't really look to that for something
to push the culture forward.
But some of the stuff I do kind of shake my head a little bit.
But you know, but I try not to look towards that for like a reference point to push our,
you know, like our society forward.
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So yeah, we're talking about sexy red.
Yeah, with me, bro, it's kind of like, like, I feel you on that.
Like, but then again, my thing is, like, receptive this, like, like, you know, it's like we can
listen to whatever, right?
But it won't affect us in any way, right?
You know, we grow mature adults, whatever.
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But like, I think some of the music, you know, far as like, you know, the gang bang, hip
hop, you know, drugs and doing all this stuff definitely does influence, you know, maybe
people that's, well, primarily younger than us, for sure, that don't really know much
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about life.
And you know, they, they heroes, this rapper, and he pushing these drugs and, you know,
all this wild stuff, and then eventually they follow suit and they start doing that.
And then what they don't understand is kind of like, this person is not doing that, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
He keeps speaking about it because he making money off of it.
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You know what I'm saying?
So it kind of pushed like that false life to like the youth.
And you know, they start doing what these rappers are saying that they are doing when
it's what they not doing.
You know what I'm saying?
If I'm a rapper, bro, I'm just put it in perspective.
I'm a rapper, right?
I started off in the hood, rapping about the hood, this, this and that.
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I get signed.
I'm a multimillionaire.
You think I'm gonna stay there?
Nah, I'm going to Beverly Hills with the white folks, right?
And if this is what's making me money, you know what I'm saying?
Then I'm gonna keep rapping on this because this is what's making me money.
You know what I'm saying?
And I think people just need to understand that don't take it literal.
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You know what I'm saying?
Don't take, you know, I sell drugs, I shoot guns, this and that.
These people is not doing that, bro.
They're not doing that, bro.
They are not signed to a multimillion dollar label, bro, and pushing drugs that don't go
together.
You feel me?
So yeah, it's all for me is just receptiveness or whatever.
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I think these rappers need to take that into account.
That is actually people out there that are listening to them think everything that they
saying is true, and they actually trying to follow that false path that these rappers
are pushing up.
So what I think has changed within recent years, the one word I think is availability.
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So I think niggas have been talking about this shit for the longest.
Like they've literally been talking about this shit in the 90s, early 2000s.
Future was not the first person to lie about taking drugs.
Oh yeah.
But I really think this all falls down on like availability of the music.
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Like you can literally, like it's literally so easy for these younger cats to just record
and upload it on SoundCloud.
And SoundCloud is such a big platform that everyone uses to listen to music for free.
It's really availability, dog.
Like you give everybody all these avenues and these roads to take, they're going to
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take them.
They've always had.
You get it.
Like you've never seen a nigga not take an opportunity.
And since there's more availability in this world, niggas have been taking more opportunities
than not.
So I really think, I really, but like they are definitely influenced.
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They're like, like all this shit is taught and has been taught for a long time.
Since I've probably, I've probably say since like hip hop was created, like niggas have
always tried to push this agenda of them pushing all these drugs, making all this money, fucking
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all these bitches.
Excuse me.
I said we weren't going to come.
You just summed up the whole hip hop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like there are like, you'll find, you'll find artists out there that are, that are
actually true to the art and actually, actually rap.
But like hip hop as a, you know, as a whole, as a general populace, that is really all
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it is.
Yeah.
Nice beats, lyrics about fucking, fucking bitches and getting money and pushing all
these drugs that they've never even seen.
It really is a bad message for all the youth because I don't think they, they have the,
I hate to say it, but the mental capacity to actually think, to be emphatic and see,
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like see through these actions.
Like are people actually doing this shit?
Nah.
Cause you like, like look the greatest of saying, you're not making money and pushing
drugs.
Get the fuck out of here.
You don't walk the red carpet at the Mac Gala and shoot blitz in the street.
Like it don't work like that, bro.
Don't mix.
You feel me?
It don't mix, bro.
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Yeah.
It don't mix at all.
But I mean, but like I feel what Lou was saying.
I mean, if you look at it as entertainment, like that's just what it is.
It's entertainment.
So like if somebody is 12 years old, like they might, like what Sean was saying, they
may not be able to grasp that.
But at this point, I ain't going to hold you like Meg Hot, Glorilla Hot, Flo-Flo-Milly
Hot, you know, I like the women rappers.
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You know, I was just kind of on one with that whole sexy red thing.
I mean, but then from that lens, I was looking at it as like, man, like, you know, she should
really, but no, if I take the other point of view, it's just entertainment.
Like it's just a video.
That's all I want my tripping, you know, so.
But I do.
Nah, I get what you're saying.
Yeah.
I do feel Sean, it's been going on for a long time.
It's like movies or whatever, you know, they're going to keep on making them and keep on making
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money.
So we take it for what it is.
Okay.
Let's do a little scenario.
Hypoterical.
We're going to put ourselves in a strike.
We've never won.
No, let's say for all these hot rappers now, right?
They still hot, right?
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But what they push in is positive.
How do you think that would change society?
Just a question out there.
Anybody can ask.
It really, it really depends on the agenda being pushed and if people are vibing with
it.
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For some reason, everybody resonates with taking drugs, even though I'm pretty sure
90 percent of people that listen to that music do not take drugs at all, which is kind of
fucking crazy.
Yeah.
Like the music does not resonate with people like real life people.
So if it was a song about positivity, first we have to ask ourselves, like, what it was
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it resonate with everyone like is this is this a positive world?
Do you live amongst positive people that will actually listen to the message?
Say that they are hot, but they hot for pushing positivity.
How would that affect society?
Far as you know, the people that that's looking up to them.
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OK, OK, put it like this.
So these rappers are famous now, obviously, for what they rap about.
Right.
And you got like the youth or whoever looking up to them and following the suit.
Now, what if they are hot still today?
But instead of what they were rapping about, everything they rap about is essentially positive.
And they still got the followers and all of that.
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I'm going to be completely honest with you, bro.
Like I cannot imagine a world of clean music like now.
That's why I said hypothetically, I'm trying.
Like I'm trying to think of it.
I'm trying to put myself in a world where people are successful off positive music.
I have yet to see it.
Because we could be hanging on kids, Bob.
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You know, I had a kid.
Bob has been doing it for a minute.
I had a kid, Bob.
See, I can laugh.
I don't know.
I remember now that's what I call music.
They tried doing that, like they tried pushing all these popular songs, you know, trying
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to push them as clean songs too.
I can see them trying to improve society through that way.
But like I literally cannot see, I cannot hypothetically think about a world where our
rappers like Drake, Kendrick Lamar, maybe Kendrick Lamar.
But literally, like I can't picture rappers like Drake, 21 Savage.
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Like all of our most prominent rappers today.
I cannot see them pushing positivity.
They're not pushing P. Sorry.
They're not pushing P. Pushing positivity.
That's what the P stands for, y'all.
Pushing positivity.
Apparently.
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The SWAG stands for, what does SWAG stand for again?
I don't even know.
I never knew.
Yeah, man, that's a whole bunch of stuff.
No, not stand for something.
TH stands for something, but the UG stands for under God.
Yeah, man, that lawyer is like dropping 67, man, coming up with them like acronyms and
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like, yo, this is what this stands for and this and that.
It was crazy.
Have you been watching the Young Duck case?
Not really.
I see a glimpse of it every now and then.
It looked like they about to let them out.
They trolling.
They about to let them out.
Yeah, they trolling.
I guess the prosecutor can come up with like evidence or witnesses or something.
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I was reading, but yeah, they plan on letting them out.
Yeah.
So they started using his songs and I was trying to use his lyrics against them.
Yeah.
Like words like thug or swag.
Like he says their acronyms, they stand for some shit like thug stands for something.
I forgot what I stood for, but it seems like he's about to get out using that tactic.
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Hey, man.
Hey, be like that.
For real.
I was watching a video of one of the YSL niggas just showing out.
You seen him bro?
Like he acted like he acted like he was like playing like he had a mental disability or
did something.
Yeah.
He was playing like he had a mental disability.
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He started spazzing out.
Yeah.
He was like, yeah.
He was pulling out all the stops.
He pulled out all the stops though, talking about song.
Oh man.
I gotta show you that.
Oh man.
He really straight, but that's crazy because that's literally what got him off.
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Yeah.
Oh man.
I wish I have not have no empathy for the Georgia Bulldogs right now.
What?
For real?
No.
Well, I feel like I don't ship after at the curvy smart blue one against Nick Saban and
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the damn Crimson Tide.
Yeah.
Like I know y'all in California.
It's a tough time to be a Georgia resident.
It's hell on earth.
It's hell on earth, man.
I know y'all in Cali with all the sunshine, beaches.
Man, I jump ship to Bamma.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't give a piss about nothing but the tide.
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I'm hurting in Cali right now.
For real?
That's a tough time to be a Georgia resident.
It's crazy, bro.
That's crazy.
Man, niggas was crying.
Y'all gotta tell me what happened.
What is it like?
Last week?
Last week I think, man.
That niggas lost like the Georgia Bulls would usually lose.
That niggas lost a big one.
They always do.
They always lose the important one, dog.
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It is really shitty to be a Georgia citizen, a Georgia resident.
It is, man.
It's hell on earth, man.
Fucking Bamma got in there.
You know, because I ain't, you know, like I'm not a huge fan either, but like Bamma had
got in over Georgia.
So niggas was like, man, I gotta rob with Bamma.
You know, and then this whole, these skits they putting out.
But yeah, they saying Georgia got robbed.
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But it's tough, man.
I'm ashamed to even be in the state, man.
But you know, y'all live in the good life.
It's okay.
Wait, wait, Georgia didn't get into what?
We're not in the playoffs.
Are y'all undefeated?
No, dog, I am literally embarrassed.
I am embarrassed because I was talking all that shit.
Wait, y'all lost to Alabama?
We lost to Alabama.
And got put out.
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And got put the fuck out.
What was y'all record?
Nigga, we was 11-0.
Yeah, I think it was like 11-1.
They ended up losing one.
So it was just this whole big thing.
It's kind of like, oh, they just chose Alabama over Georgia type shit.
And then a whole bunch of...
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Yeah, well, I mean, it does make sense.
They did beat us, but damn, put us out of the entire playoffs.
Yeah, Georgia not in the playoffs?
At all, dog.
At all.
They put Texas in that pitch and cheatin' ass Michigan.
I know you a Michigan fan, but them niggas were cheatin' all season, man.
Damn, why you say they cheatin'?
What?
Them niggas was on the other side of stealing signs.
(41:13):
What?
All right, we ain't gonna talk about that.
Yeah, that's the guy with the CS and Core.
Nigga, CS and Core.
That boy, Jim Harbaugh.
Jim Harbaugh, greasy rat bastard.
Man, Jim Harbaugh, man.
Aw, dog.
Greasy, man.
He's slippery, too.
Damn well, if it was a greasy dog, he might just run away
and leave Michigan, honestly,
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because that nigga's still not coachin' him.
Nigga suspended his ass.
But his ass might just run out, dog.
Yeah.
Bro, another thing that I'm very apathetic towards, too,
is this damn NBA end-season tournament.
I don't like it.
Yeah.
Like, what really pisses me off about the tournament
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is that point differential rule.
So, like, a team has to score a certain amount of point
to advance to a spot in the tournament.
So, say you're already blowin' out a team 110 to 70.
Well, you need 115 to advance in the tournament.
Last 30 seconds of the clock, and you're at 110 points,
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but you're already beating somebody out by 40 points.
And they're trying to score these five points
just to advance in the tournament.
Like, I feel like it takes away, you know,
it tarnishes the good nature of the game
and the sportsmanship behind it,
because niggas really love hoops.
That's weird.
It is weird.
So, like, beating a team is not enough.
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So, Adam Silver implemented the same system
as what they were doing in the FIBA tournament, you know, overseas.
Yeah, they have to score a certain amount of point
to advance in the tournament.
But what if they win, right, but don't get those points?
What happens?
Well, the other point...
Well, the other team has the opportunity to last them.
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Point.
To take their spot.
That's why Indiana made it this far,
because they've been scoring, bro.
Like, they cannot stop scoring points.
So, that's why Indiana's in.
That's weird.
It isn't.
It isn't.
I don't like it at all.
I don't like it at all.
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But then again, $500,000 is on the line.
So, it's just another thing within the NBA
to garner interest.
Really.
Yeah, I'm not liking that.
I know the tournament just started.
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Maybe in the future they'll probably make adjustments
to make it make sense.
But I just thought they just needed to win.
But apparently that's not enough.
You got to get a certain amount of points.
Okay, interesting.
Very interesting.
No, it's weird.
I don't know if you've been watching them.
That's an all-in-one too.
Like, not any games,
but I've just been seeing clips here and there.
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But that's the first I heard about that, man.
That's crazy.
That is kind of wild.
Yeah, me too.
FIBA stuff over.
I'm like, man, leave that stuff over there, man.
It's America.
It's a free country.
What made this country so great?
You're right, man.
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I thought it was wild, man.
Because they get the $500,000 if you win.
Even if somebody's not on the VET minimum,
whatever that amount is, these dudes got millions.
Man, Braun was like, yo, man, I need that $500,000.
I might use that on some vacations for my daughter.
Like, bro, you're not fooling nobody, man.
That nigga Braun is a billionaire.
(44:54):
That nigga Braun is a billionaire
and is playing for that $500,000 like he never had it.
I know.
They're taking it back to the basics, man.
Scrappy.
On God, like, that is the mentality to have.
Like, you can call it being selfish.
You can call it being greedy.
Hell, money make the world go round.
(45:16):
I'm sorry.
Yeah?
Um...
I guess...
Is that my phone?
I didn't need that.
Nah, my girl only texted me.
Well, I forgot to text her back.
Excuse me.
Sorry.
Well, yeah, nah, I really don't like...
(45:37):
I really don't...
Well, I try not...
I really don't watch the NBA during the, you know, during the...
Damn 82 games.
Yeah, man.
It's too many damn games.
Literally way too many games, bro.
Thanks.
All right, go ahead, go ahead.
I wish they cut down the games, honestly.
You wish they could what?
I wish they cut down the games.
(45:59):
Wow, yeah.
Like college?
No, cut down the NBA games.
82 games is too much, dog.
It is literally too much.
I wish it was 60.
Like, you think they should cut it to 60 or 40 or something?
60 sounds good.
These niggas don't play about 60 games anyway.
Yeah, man, all this load management, man.
You got to save them knees.
Oh, gosh.
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Oh, gosh.
These be like...
I mean, them knees be crying for air, man.
They be gasping for air.
Every time you see LeBron after a game,
his knees be wrapped up in like,
really bad ice, dog.
That nigga from Hawaii stays in those knee wraps all the time.
Yeah, these niggas don't play 82 games.
That's fucking crazy.
Who's the last person to play 82 games?
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I don't know.
I don't even know, bro.
That's a lot of games, bro.
82 games, bro.
Anybody got time to play 82 games, bro.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, that's a lot of games.
Yeah.
It's like baseball, ain't it?
Baseball.
Baseball got like 160-something games.
That's a lot of games.
Baseball got like 160-something games.
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That's another sport that needs to fucking cut down.
But then, baseball, then again,
I guess they're not really having that super set on their body,
like NBA or NFL or whatever.
For the majority of the game, they're standing in one spot.
That's true.
A lot better than what it's like for the majority of the game.
You don't call it what it is.
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They be standing in one spot.
I feel like it's better to be...
I feel like it's better to be a pro professional basketball player anyway
because they get the holidays, bro.
Like, they see it's been done for two months now.
And they're about to get back into it in March.
So they get to experience Thanksgiving, Christmas,
all that shit without it being in the season.
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Baseball players got it made.
And them niggas be making money, too.
Oh, God, bro.
Them niggas be making hella bread.
They be watching that shit.
I go to baseball games, but the last Padres game I went to,
I was fucked up.
I didn't even watch the game.
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I was just enjoying the buying souvenirs and nachos and drinkers.
That's all I was...
Yeah, man.
It's the same thing.
That was me the last Padres game.
Who was it? Mr. 912.
I don't know, but it's just an excuse for me to drink, like you said,
cop a glizzy and just hang out.
(48:33):
Oh, God.
Cop a glizzy, get you a little beer.
I don't care what people say.
I don't like hot dogs.
Oh, yeah.
I don't care what people say.
Oh, yeah.
I'll fuck up a co-e from 7-Eleven any day.
Yeah, I don't care.
Put some mustard, ketchup, and relish on that, baby.
This shit is good.
But, hey, Mr. 912, where you from?
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Like, I know I'm from Detroit.
I know Sean, you from...
Is it Savannah?
In the area.
In the area.
Okay.
Where you from?
So I'm also from that area.
It's a city called Hounsville, Georgia.
Like, it's near Savannah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like that.
Yeah, like, we're both from Hounsville.
Yeah.
From the bill, 912.
Yeah.
Look it up.
Nah, that shit about to grow, bro.
The bill about to grow.
That's what they say.
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Yeah, man.
I mean, they, you know, they trying to do a little something, but, you know,
I support it.
So like, like, our area is growing.
I don't know that, you know, that we're starting to build any new things.
Y'all starting to finally tear down them old car factories.
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Every time I go home, it's something new.
Fun fact, Detroit just opened up, or I don't know if it's open open, but it's not this
is in the work.
I know it's finished, but they built a road where it's specifically for electric cars.
But as electric cars ride on that road, they get charged.
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That's interesting.
What?
Yeah.
Dang.
I said the same thing.
I was like, huh?
Yo, listen, I want to, I know, I know you've seen, um, Atlanta's getting a new road.
I know you're very emphatic about that.
So where is this at? Like, is this like a new highway or like, low-wear?
Man, they are opening up another way to get to Atlanta.
(50:28):
I forgot what it was, but it's definitely on that, on that, uh, on that Georgia page
that we follow on IG.
Yeah, not as wild, because like I saw something where they was building like a railway from
the airport to Charlotte, but I'm not sure if that was like the same thing he was talking
about.
So, dog, they were supposed to do that over here in San Diego, try to build this underground
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railroad from, from San Diego to LA.
They were supposed to do that.
Really?
So, so was that the Elon Musk thing where they're like, they're going under like all
the traffic just to cut down on like the travel time?
Yeah, no, definitely.
It's definitely to cut down on all that traffic.
Cause I know you'd be watching the news.
We'd be suffering after Thanksgiving.
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Man, it's crazy, man.
Like I've seen that, but then my old lady, man, like she was in LA and then she was telling
me, yo, like it's like similar to here, but only worse.
I'm like, man, like I feel worse.
Yeah.
I'm 20 miles from work.
You can drive 20 miles and let's say 22 minutes, right?
(51:32):
Doing like the speed limit in the morning or whatever when I'm going to work, bro, it's
like 45 minutes, bro.
So now, but then all the time you leave.
Definitely when I'm, when I'm leaving work, when I, when I was at a job, like it would
take me an hour to get to work.
I mean an hour to get home.
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45 minutes of that is sitting on the damn end of the street.
Yeah.
Because these niggas don't fucking drive.
I don't think these niggas drive.
I don't think these niggas drive.
I mean, that's my personal opinion.
I don't think people be driving.
But then again, I do make it home.
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So I guess niggas do drive.
But well, I guess that's all that matters.
Despite the insane traffic.
I was curious.
I mean, so like for you guys, like have you all with San Diego being so close to Mexico,
have you guys gone back and forth at all or, or no?
We can.
I mean, honestly, if we wanted to, we could, I haven't been to Mexico personally.
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I have had friends who do go over there consistently.
So you can't get it.
It's like right there too, bro.
It's not like far at all.
The border from here, bro, it's probably like 25, 30 miles.
What is it?
South?
We're literally 30 minutes away from downtown TJ right now.
That's crazy.
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It'll take me some time to get over there because we all know how TJ is.
Even us that don't live in California know how, how they get routing in Tijuana.
See, man, I've heard stories and rumors, but I was trying to hear it from the horse's
mouse, but I mean, I don't want to step on any toes of the different.
We actually have a story to that.
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So remember that white girl that used to get her phone taken all the time?
Yeah.
Every time we step out, she would get her phone taken.
Oh my God.
Somebody was steal her phone.
Every time we went out, probably cause she'd be, it's literally in her purse and then
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niggas go in that bitch and take that shit every time.
Oh my goodness.
The only time he doesn't get thinking is when it's in my back pocket.
Anytime I get it back there, that shit gets taken.
Jesus man.
The pickpocketer.
I'm so sorry.
Anytime that shit was not in my hands, then like they will take her phone and then we'll
do the find my phone shit.
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That shit in Tijuana.
Every single fucking time.
It's a wrap.
It is a wrap.
Every single time.
It gets across the border.
That thing, huh?
It's over with.
Yeah.
It's over with.
I was like, while I was in the Navy, I was going to this class and this dude in my class
that has cars stolen during the week.
Guess where he found his car at?
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TJ.
Maybe.
I won't even drive my car to TJ.
No sir.
I won't even park outside the border because even that's risky.
Well you found it.
It's too late.
Your car, everything on that car is gone.
You don't get a frame.
Baby a door.
Not even.
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Not even because the frame, the body nice too.
They might just use the body and put any old shit in it.
No, your car will be gone.
Like traces gone.
Literally.
Because that dude I went to class with, he gave his car back.
Oh girl, I never got her phone back.
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Man, it's just.
Hey, what goes in TJ stay in TJ.
But actually I want to go one day.
Maybe one day when the niggas, when we can all make plans or whatever.
Yeah.
But for now I am apathetic towards that place.
They need to improve their community.
Sorry.
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But shit, we are out of time.
This is it.
We made it to the end.
That shit did go by quick.
Bro, Mr. 912, we got to have you back though bro.
Definitely put something together, have you back.
I think it went good bro.
I think it went good.
(55:56):
Yeah man.
We really do appreciate you having here and having your opinions and what not.
Hey well no, I mean I appreciate y'all.
I know that we are just trying to work it out with the timing and everything like that.
But yeah, I am down for it.
You know how niggas beat what time.
Hey man, I want SCP time.
I am still in shot for some reason.
(56:17):
Myself.
But, well shit.
We really do appreciate you Mr. 912 for being on the show.
We are definitely going to see you about having you on again.
But thank you for coming on.
Thank you for everyone tuning in to episode 7.
We do appreciate everyone.
Everyone's love and support.
And with that being said, peace out.
(56:41):
Peace out.
(57:11):
Peace out.
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