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December 25, 2023 • 60 mins

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Thank you. I have some energy.
A little too much. Yes, sir.
That's that Christmas spirit.
Since y'all don't have it.
But this is the Healing Club podcast.
We are on episode eight now.
I am your host, Sean.
And I'm here with Luke the greatest, the one and only.

(00:53):
The one and only. Yes.
You can go look for another one.
I don't think you will. You won't.
You won't. No.
Go ahead and try.
Won't be another one.
But before we start, well, today's episode is going to be about care.

(01:13):
Like the general aspect of care.
Especially, especially during the times around the holidays.
We feel like it's a very important topic to talk about.
Not for sure.
I know y'all out there buying gifts for people y'all don't care about.
That's why I'm out.
Nah, I'm just kidding.

(01:34):
Well, before we begin, I want to go ahead and reach out to those that are that need help.
That need to talk to somebody that need, that are just going to things that are unbearable.
There is a suicide prevention hotline out there for you.
The number is 988-988.

(01:57):
You can call or text that number.
Reach out.
There's always somebody out there to talk to you.
Professional help.
Always, there's always somebody out there.
No doubt.
You're going through anything.
There's people out there that is willing to help you.
Their job is to help you.
They got that job because they care about people's mental health.
So, definitely it's all confidential.

(02:20):
You ain't got to worry about your business being spread out on the internet or your friends finding out or whatever.
It's between you and whoever's working your case.
So, definitely text it, call it, email it.
However, get in touch with them.
Yes, sir.
Or if you're not comfortable reaching out to people like that, we are always here.

(02:41):
We are the Healing Club Podcast after all.
I like to say we're very dedicated to increasing the awareness of mental health in our society.
So, if you can't find anyone to talk to or just reaching out to that number, I guess it can be uncomfortable.

(03:02):
We are here for you.
That is.
Hit us up.
Hit us up, man.
We got you.
Yes, sir.
All right.
So, on to the topic of care.
So, what is care?
So, care in verb form is to feel concerned or interest or to have attached importance to something.

(03:27):
Say, for instance, if someone is caring, they are affectionate, helpful, sympathetic, those kinds of things.
I say loving parent is also a very caring parent.
I say loving care go hand in hand as well.

(03:48):
Oh, no, for sure.
I think that do go hand in hand.
Definitely.
So, with caring, the synonyms for care are also anxiety, concern, solitude, and worry.
While we go through feelings of care, while we care for somebody, we worry for them.

(04:10):
We have a sense of anxiety, too.
Say, for instance, if you are a parent and your kid is out there playing sports, you know, you are caring for your kid.
You want the best to happen for your kid.
You are showing all the affectionate and helpful emotions for that kid.

(04:32):
At the same time, you are also worrying for their well-being.
You know, the same goes for during the holidays.
We try to care for everybody.
We would just talk about buying presents for people we don't care about, which is kind of crazy.

(04:53):
But with caring, I don't think I see a lot of it today.
I feel like a lot of people are...
I want to say in and over their heads, I wouldn't even say that's the best I've heard for it.

(05:14):
I would say the level of care with people today is just caring for others.
I don't see it. I see a lot of self-care.
I see a lot of people...
I would hate to say selfish, but I see a lot of people only looking out for themselves.
I think that's kind of fucked. I also see it in families, too.

(05:37):
I think we're losing our value in definition and care today.
I don't know how you feel about caring for somebody today.
I get what you're saying, bro.
I think I could take that back to high school where you got the kids who are good at certain subjects.

(06:01):
And then they get picked on because they're good at certain subjects, like say you're striving in school or whatever.
And I'm not doing that good, but I'm bigger than you.
So I'm going to go ahead and bully you or whatever.
So I think definitely caring, not necessarily talking on the family spectrum,

(06:28):
but more of like caring, you care about something you like or something you do.
I think definitely I don't see that much or whatever because for some reason people applaud people who don't try hard.
Does that make sense?
The thing is, like I said, in high school, I would see people not do things that they get at doing or that they enjoy

(06:55):
because how it makes them look, as far as like, you know, I think people prefer image over just pretty much anything or whatever.
Right. Like you know you get a math, right.
You can get an A in this class.
But I guess say people looking at you like you a nerd or a loser or whatever, right.

(07:19):
You just don't bail on it because you want to look good, you know, for these other people.
You know what I'm saying? Like you definitely if you care about it, you should do it.
I'm not like, no, I definitely understand what you're saying.
Like some people's care is misplaced.
We could be caring about the wrong things.

(07:42):
But then again, can you say that someone's care about the wrong things?
Because at the end of the day, care goes hand in hand with love.
So if you care to do something, then you love doing it.
And I can't I can't say that people are wrong for caring for the wrong things.
Because at the end of the day, we are humans.

(08:05):
We make mistakes.
I can't say that you're caring for the wrong thing because that's almost the same.
You're loving the wrong thing.
Hmm.
When you put it like that, I see what you said.
Things like the semantics thing.
Yeah, like stuff like that.
I think people need to go through an experience and figure out what it is that they that they should care about.

(08:34):
No, I agree.
But but you can always you can always, you know, insert your opinions like we are right now.
Like we're not we're not telling you to care for the right things because there is no right and wrong in caring.
Honestly, this is honestly subjective.
I guess we all cared differently, differently about certain things.

(08:56):
Yeah, it's caring.
Karen has to be passionate.
It resonates with you.
I can't I can't tell you to care for this person or I can't tell you the care for this math test that's coming up.
I can't tell you to care about paying the rent on time.
It's very subjective and it should resonate with you.

(09:18):
I'll tell you this, though, if you feel anxiety or worry, then yeah, you're definitely caring about things.
But let's see, caring during the holidays.
So this is a little tough.
As we said, we know we don't see a lot of care, especially especially right now during the holidays.

(09:39):
Last week, we haven't seen like I just don't even care about the holidays here.
No, yeah, I think we talked about that a little bit last episode, too.
It's like I don't really feel the super Christmasy.
But, you know, like it was when you and me was 10 years old or eight years old before we found out that disappointment about Santa Claus, right?

(10:07):
That age before we found the president in the attic.
That was a tough time.
Many, many, many nights were spent sleeping and crying.
Oh, you didn't want to see what I what I did when I figured out the two fairy wasn't real.
The straw straw is an understatement.

(10:31):
I was hurt. Mom, what you doing under my pillow?
What's that doll in your hand for?
I was pretending to be sleep.
I wanted to catch the tooth fairy.
Oh, oh, God, I wanted to see.
Oh, yeah, this is your mom.
You like you've been wanting me for eight years.

(10:54):
Eight years.
My only question is, why only a dollar?
You've been growing that tooth since you was like months.
Oh, my six years old.
I need five dollars.
Yeah, for real.
It's a dollar per year.
Like, no, I'm any more than that, mama.

(11:15):
The one dollar one dollar wasn't cutting it.
Yeah.
When it comes to Christmas, I think that a lot of it is more centered around gifts, right?
Which I think can make it stressful on people or whatever.

(11:37):
You like, oh, they give me a gift.
I got to get them a gift.
That's not really what it's about, you know, because my favorite thing about Christmas is that it's just the energy usually is like always good.
You know, you you might be you might have been mad at your friend or whoever all year, but then you see him around Christmas time and it's like, oh, no, it's like forgiveness season.

(12:03):
You know what I'm saying?
So I love that, you know, and that's how I think Christmas should be.
No, it definitely should be like these days.
I really don't care about receiving a gift.
You know, I feel like I got enough things at the house anyway.
Like I'm I'm in it for like strictly for the vibes like I I want to I want it to feel like Christmas like I want everyone to feel the Christmas spirit to be happy.

(12:30):
I wish other people can can receive gifts as well.
But I'm really I'm really in it for for like the spirit.
I really love the vibe of Christmas.
I like to see people happy receive gifts and stuff.
But I feel like Christmas time is all holidays.
I feel like it should be spent with your with your closest friends and family.

(12:52):
And if you can't, you know, there's always the option of of self care, you know, and and I know I kind of talked about a little bit of it at the beginning of the episode with being selfish and stuff.
But at the end of the day, you do have to look out for num numero uno yourself.
So yeah, don't care during the holidays.

(13:14):
Definitely definitely a lot of self care has to be taken into place.
Yeah, definitely.
You know, think about your state of mind.
It's tough to spend holidays by yourself, especially especially like if you're in the military because because when I was in the military, bro,
I was in the military for over nine years.

(13:37):
I say only only two or three of those years spent at home like Christmas.
Yeah, I think I came home like two or three times for Christmas.
The other ones I was like on the ship like deployed.
But yeah, same. Yeah.
And that's and at the time I didn't care because I was like, OK, whatever.
There's many more Christmases to go to.

(13:58):
But as I as I start to think, you know, I miss out on memories and this out on opportunities and it is what it is.
But I want to do my best to actually celebrate holidays with families this year or every year going forward.
Because looking back, I missed out on a lot of time.
And it turns out I really did care.

(14:21):
I said I didn't care about this holidays or whatever.
It turns out I really did care.
You know, it really hurts to if you think about it.
Yeah, you start filling those synonyms synonyms.
He was listening earlier that anxiety, depression, that solitude.
Yeah, worry all of that.

(14:43):
Yeah.
Not like I would.
I was just going through all of it.
Yeah, it kind of sucks.
I'm not going to lie.
So it's why why I don't see a lot of care these days.
Number one, I think I think there is a big stigma behind caring somebody like perception of oversensitivity or fear of judgment.

(15:13):
You know, especially, you know, especially for young men, if you try to care for somebody, you know, they'll bring out the word
or the S word.
So that's a big one.
They'll definitely call you a simp for it.
It is what it is, man.
Like, don't don't don't mind those people, because those are probably people that don't have people that care about them.

(15:38):
I'd hate to say it.
The word is weird, bro.
Like not having values is cool.
Like that doesn't make sense to me, bro.
Like that's what makes you and me a man, bro.
Like, it's not that we hit a certain age and we grow and now we may not as we men because we have values.

(15:59):
You know, we stand on them.
That's what makes us men have values and protect them.
Like, yeah, our values actually make us.
Exactly.
Like, if I tell you my values, you will see the type of person that I am, honestly.
Yeah, but there's definitely there's definitely a stigma behind caring that I can see because like Luke said, I don't I don't know why.

(16:23):
But it's so cool to be negative these days.
For some reason, it's so cool to be just just a negative.
Like, shame on me if I chase a dream.
Right.
Exactly.
I look at you chasing a dream, lame ass.

(16:45):
It's nice.
It's so crazy.
If I try to like say back then, if you try to care for your homie, be like, you know, what's good?
You good?
You know, everything is cool with your family.
They'll think they'll think, oh, you, you know, I ain't trying to tell you all that.
Why you all my business?
This type of thing a lot a lot.

(17:05):
Where does that even come from?
I don't know, bro.
Like, I get it.
You know, we all go through that, you know, them trials and tribulations where it's like rough for us.
You know, obviously it's different than how you grow up or whatever.
But the goal is always to chase what you want to do or who you want to be in life.

(17:27):
And I said, that's always the goal.
But for some reason, going away from all of that is the new dream.
I don't get it.
You're on to something when you said people were losing values.
Yeah.
Like values, values make a man.
I don't know, but I think it's because I got maybe it's because I'm getting older or something.

(17:50):
But it's definitely age.
So I think I said this in one of our earlier episodes, like around two or three, like I hit a certain age where I just became aware of.
Yeah, you started like really paying attention like this is dumb.
Yeah.
I don't do this like self-awareness, like I started paying attention to to to people's feelings around me or and what I was doing, what I was looking at.

(18:16):
Yeah.
Yeah, you do. You do go through an age where all of a sudden you just mature.
I'd like to say it is it is part of a learning experience.
But the stigma behind caring, that's taught that is taught.
I don't know who taught somebody to that, you know, caring, caring for another person is GAY or caring, caring, caring for somebody is a name.

(18:43):
No, no, no.
No, it's human nature, bro.
Like, I cannot say everybody has that feeling for certain people, you know, that they care about or whatever.
It's it's a natural thing, right?
It doesn't make you weaker or, you know, less of a man or a woman, right?

(19:09):
Because you feel these things.
Everybody feels it.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like, what are we doing, bro?
It's stupid to me.
Not it is very stupid.
But another another like disparity I see in caring these days is people's.
People's level of expectation.

(19:32):
Like, for instance, say I'm getting you a gift.
OK, you're expecting I'm getting you this crazy.
Yeah, I probably got you some bullshit like a twenty dollar gift card at Chili's or something.
Well, your expectations are completely somewhere else.
You really don't care about this gift.

(19:53):
Yeah, that that sucks.
And I think I'm not bad.
I mean, because you know, I know when it comes to Christmas, I think gifts low key.
That's more of a children thing, honestly.
But in a way, I feel like it kind of hurts Christmas like like I said, I'm going to tell this little experience I had.

(20:14):
So I did watch the Grinch recently.
And, you know, as a kid, it's like, oh, the Grinch is so evil.
He's hating on everybody.
But then when you watch him, when you older, it's like, is the Grinch really the bad guy?
Because it's like because when he was a kid, right, you know, he was in love with Martha May or whatever.

(20:35):
You know, he shaved his face. He wanted to look good for this girl.
He really liked there. He got a gift that he built himself.
That's real effort and thought put into.
Right. Go to give it to her.
Right. And just like how we talked about earlier, you know, you got some kids that was hating on them or whatever, because he cared about this girl and wanted to give her a special gift.

(20:57):
Right. Yeah.
And then as the Grinch get older, you start to see like, OK, he grumpy, he does this and that.
But I feel like his whole point was really to take away the gifts because from where he experienced, that's all Christmas was to the who was just gifts, gifts, gifts, gifts.

(21:20):
And he felt like, you know, it shouldn't just be about gifts or whatever.
And and I like how when he took away the gifts.
Right. And then you had Cindy Lou's dad is like, you know what?
Forget the gifts. I got my family.
That's all I need, bro. You know what I'm saying?
He was thankful for his family, and that's what I think Christmas should be about.

(21:44):
You know what I'm saying? So it should be about family, love, you know, forgiveness.
It's a fresh start, right after Christmas is New Year.
Yes. Yeah.
Literally. Literally. Yeah.
This this like Christmas is a loving holiday.
Like throw your expectations out the window.
Get with the people you love and enjoy that Christmas spirit because that's that's what the Christmas spirit is.

(22:06):
Honestly, just to be around the people that you love.
I have the spirit.
Eat some good food.
Not for sure, man.
Don't think about the gifts, man.
It's not about that, dude.
It's about, you know, you're around the people you grateful for.
You thankful for that.
The gift, the gift is love.
Gifts is love and life.

(22:28):
Literally. That's what the gift is.
So you are the little stuff you give people that really don't even matter.
You know what I'm saying?
It's really, you know, hug your grandma.
You know, you still got her.
Hug your mom. You still got her.
Your sister, brother, cousin, auntie.
Give them a hug.
That's what Christmas is about to me.
And if you don't talk to them, this will be the good time to actually mend that bridge.

(22:50):
Because you want to go into the new year with family behind your back.
You want to go into the new year strong.
You want to go in with no hate, no aggression.
If that is what you're into.
You want to go in with your mental, fully intact, no worries.

(23:13):
You really want your family behind you, though.
So if you don't talk to them, this would be the best time.
This is the best time. Yeah, for sure.
Just like you had said in like, I think it was like episode two or three,
you know, you talked about your situation with your father.
You know, I'm pretty sure other people go through that too.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, we beefed out over something that's maybe not that big of a deal.

(23:37):
And then they get extended for so long, the period.
And then you look back, like, damn, like, was it even worth it?
It wasn't. It really wasn't.
The time that I lost not talking to my dad.
Yeah, that sucked.
Yeah. So like I said, if you have a similar experience with Sean, man,
you know, him and his dad talked out.

(23:59):
He worked it out. They best friend.
It's not. I love my pops.
Yeah. So talk to your family, man.
It's a time for forgiving and love.
Period.
So definitely do not see care as a disruption during the holidays because that's that's another big thing with what's here during the holidays.

(24:21):
People see it as a disruption.
Mm hmm.
Like say, so you're having a Christmas, I guess, event at your crib.
We care for all this. This dinner is going to be great.
You know, it's all is everything.

(24:43):
How the lights on is is everybody coming over?
Everyone have you get.
That's that's kind of.
No, but you know what?
I think the foundation of all of that is is.
I nobody likes to be judged, right?
You know, especially if you host and something you want everybody to have a great, wonderful time, right?

(25:07):
Do your best. Right.
And, you know, I don't think you should always worry about how other people like look at you or whatever, because I think that's kind of how that stuff starts.
You know what I'm saying? People judge people are mean image image.
Yeah, exactly.

(25:28):
You know, I said, do your best at things, you know what I'm saying?
And yeah, no, really, like that's all you can do is your best.
But really, I think people should just be worried about, am I going to see this person this year?
You know, am I going to talk to this person?
Yeah, you know, those are the things that I feel like like those are the things I care about.

(25:49):
Am I going to talk to my family this year?
You know, I'm going to say I love you to my mom during Christmas.
No, definitely. And we live in a different time. This thing a hundred years ago when you had to write a letter and it took two weeks to get to the person or whatever.
Now you can send a text and this right there call just like that face time, just like that.

(26:10):
Right. So it's really you ain't got no excuse why you ain't calling your people.
Long time friends you ain't spoke to in a minute.
Whoever now is the time to do it.
Make up.
You don't have time. Make time.
Yeah, for sure.
Twenty five hours in a day is a lot. Honestly, you have time.
You know, make time. Make time to reach out to your reach out to your family.

(26:32):
Reach out to your mom and dad, your sister, your brother. Tell them you love them.
Miss them. You know, happy holidays. I'll see you when I see you.
Exactly.
You know, just let them just let them know that you're still there and that you still love them.
Yeah, exactly. And that implies you like, you know, this is the mental health podcast.
So we always take in, you know, how people could feel mentally or whatever.

(26:55):
You don't know. You could be that person that that person needed.
You know what I'm saying? Like just call them and say you love them.
They might need that. They might need to hear that.
You might need to say it to exactly.
So now is the time to do it.
Definitely. During the holidays is definitely the best time to do it.
Everyone's in a loving time.

(27:16):
I'm telling you that that family member that you want to talk to him so long,
I bet they wish that you did talk to them and vice versa.
I wish they probably wish they had your number.
Yeah, like J.K. Cole said, pride is a devil because it be like that.
Like just like how you said, you said it pinpoint route.
You know, you're both beefing out, but they really want you to call and you really want them to call.

(27:39):
But it's pride in a way.
So you're both just going to say, you know what?
I'm not going to do it because they're not going to do it.
But we all both want each other to do it.
Somebody do it.
If you want to do it, just freaking do it.
You know, do it.
Do it.
Call.
I love you, man.
That's all I wanted to say.
Hope you have a good holiday.
I love you.
Bye.

(28:00):
It's so easy.
That was like not even not even not even if there was nothing to say.
Just happy holidays.
I love you.
I love you missing you.
There's nothing, you know, there's nothing.
Regardless if it's a holiday or not, too, regardless of holiday or not.
Now, since it's Christmas, you know, Christmas is all it's that good spirit or whatever.

(28:25):
So it's probably the best time to do it.
But honestly, the best time is now.
Now.
Like there's no better time than now.
No facts like now today.
Don't procrastinate.
We talked about that last.
We talked about procrastination.
Yeah, we talked about that last episode.

(28:47):
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
That should be everybody's New Year resolution because we all do it.
Stop procrastinating, bro.
And I'm talking to myself, too.
So yeah, not definitely definitely procrastination.
No, you don't want to procrastinate with family.
No.

(29:08):
Why would you procrastinate with family to begin with?
Like, I would say family family is number one, man.
Family has to be number one in your in your picture.
It has to be.
I don't want to tell people to care about things.
This is the one thing I will tell you guys to care about is family.

(29:29):
You somebody has to care about like somebody has to care in the family.
Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
I can't even with broken families, man.
Yeah.
All our families dysfunctional.
I'm going to go ahead and say everybody family is f'ed up.

(29:51):
Nobody family is perfect.
Nobody.
Mom's not perfect.
Shawn's not perfect.
Nobody family is perfect.
Right.
But still love them.
Still love them.
Yeah.
That's that's still your blood.
That's still your brother, your sister, your uncle, your cousin.
That's still that's still your mom, your dad.

(30:12):
Like that is that is your family.
Unconditional love, unconditional love.
Well said, Shawn.
That's why you're the last.
Because no other Shawn would have said that.
No.
See why he the last, Shawn?
Last one.
Last one you'll ever want to know.

(30:35):
Unconditional love.
Christmas.
I love it, bro.
I love that.
I love that.
So there are there are a couple things that we could, you know, tell you guys to improve
your care and and spirit during the holidays.
One of them is to the number one to combat this stigma behind caring.

(30:59):
Fuck it.
Care.
Who cares if what what the other person thinks?
That's the one thing you shouldn't care about is what the other person thinks.
Yeah.
Because.
OK, let me see if I can put this right.
What you care about is literally what you care about.
Everybody not going to have those same cares or whatever.

(31:23):
Right.
So definitely, you know, love what you care about, do what you care about, man.
You know, there's there's like a saying like, you know, there's over eight, eight, eight
billion people in this world.
No one cares about you.
Well, it should be the other way around.
It's eight billion people in this world.
We all care about one another because everyone's special.

(31:45):
Like that, like you definitely have somebody that cares about you, but there is this stigma
behind it, you know, because people think it's weak or oversensitive.
Yeah.
Care.
Fuck it.
Care.
Those are your feelings.
They're yours.
Exactly.
They say own your feelings like you do.
If you do not care about what the what the person might think like we I think we live

(32:11):
in our heads a little bit and we just think negatively.
It might be because of the society that we live in care.
You have to.
I know you do.
You have to care.
Yeah.
Everybody caring, caring goes goes hand in hand with love.
Like we said, I know you love so you have to care.
So definitely, definitely the stigma behind caring.

(32:35):
You definitely come back that care.
Education and awareness, I would say I would say people are people don't have enough.
I would say not education.
Caring, caring is more like a home.
It's more reactive, isn't it?
Yeah.
Say, say, for instance, your car, your health care, I hit my parking in the parking garage.

(33:01):
Hell no.
I was just.
We're furious.
We are furious.
That's a sign of care.
I'm mad.
I'm upset.
That is a sign of care.
Or my man will go buy a lottery ticket and not win.

(33:25):
Now he's caring about the money that he lost.
Or the money that he could have won care.
It can be misplaced.
So I would say, you know, you can put a little bit of education into it.
Yeah.
What should matter most to you?

(33:46):
Like the most important things.
Mainly, I said, number one, you should definitely care about family.
You know, what are the things that you should care about?
Yeah.
Dreams, family, life.
Goals.
That's what he says.
Goals.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Definitely.
Well being to your well being.
So take care of yourself.

(34:07):
Take care of yourself.
Make sure you eat properly.
Get the right amount of rest.
Because you are the star player.
And your life.
I look at life kind of like a book or whatever.
You know, each year you age, just like a chapter or whatever.
Exactly.
You the star player on that book.
You definitely need to take care of yourself.

(34:30):
Definitely.
Like eight billion people in this world, no one special.
No.
Eight billion in this world.
Everybody is special.
Everybody is special.
Take care of yourself.
Definitely.
Especially during these times and the holidays, if you're spending it by yourself.
Definitely take care of yourself.
Look after your well being.
Yeah.
If you by yourself, man, all power to you, bro.

(34:51):
Because I done been through it.
Sean done been through it.
Keep your head up, man.
If you can, reach out to your family or not them.
Maybe friends.
Somebody may reach out, man.
Reach out, bro.
Yeah.
Or yeah.
Or vice versa.
You know what I'm saying?
If you especially like spilling or speaking military wise, you know, your son or your

(35:14):
husband or your wife, spouse, whoever it is, right, that's out there deployed.
If you can reach out to them, reach out.
Yeah.
I promise you they will appreciate it.
I promise you they will.
Definitely.
Like I wish I wish people had reached out like more to me like while I was on deployment
out there alone and said you want to know what our Christmas our Christmas gift was

(35:36):
deployed.
Mike Pence, the vice president or the recent vice president calling us and telling us we
extended for another two months.
Imagine that.
This man, this man, my man, Mike Pence got on the intercom.
Happy holidays.
By the way, you guys will be staying out there for a little bit longer.

(35:59):
You guys actually traveling, traveling down, down south to the mother waters.
We won't tell you where because that's none.
Yeah.
Right.
It's like, damn.
That was tough, bro.
That was that was a tough one, bro.
I'm telling you, like I was a tough one.

(36:21):
I'm telling you, like there are there are there are elements out there that will test your
level of care.
Yeah, for sure.
That definitely did.
Yeah.
But if you're out there, bro, you buy yourself.
Just keep going, man.
You know, just keep believing yourself.
Keep it going.
And, you know, just believe in yourself.
I would say me and Luke went on one of the toughest deployments out there in history

(36:48):
over over over 10 months of not hitting the port in Chinese waters, wearing our face mask,
scared about covid or scared about covid, scared about war, getting extended.
It's like the double whammies, bro.
It was a triple whammy, bro.
I would even say it was a quadruple whammy because that boat was asked to get that boat

(37:13):
stayed hot.
Hey, it was super hot.
We were sweating bullets every fucking day.
That water was so hot.
Oh, God, bro.
But hey, like I said, man, family was reaching out every now and then on Facebook.
Yeah, that's how I mean they love me.
Motivating you to keep going.

(37:35):
Little things like that.
That makes a big impact on somebody like.
Mm hmm. No, most definitely like stuff like that actually can give people strength and help, you know,
like because they really care about seeing the end of the tunnel.
They actually want to get through it.
They just wish there was people that, you know, that they gave a damn that wonder, you know,

(37:59):
what what are they going to do?
I do you know what you're say you're a mom and dad or a sister right now or a brother
and you have a family member deployed overseas right now, you even know what they're going through.
Like I know it's their decision is a third.
But like, do you care enough to know the trials and tribulations that they're experiencing is really tough?

(38:27):
Yeah, it's definitely a tough mental thing for sure.
It's just like anything is tough spent alone to like we all know the military is tough, but it's tough alone.
It's especially tough when you're trying to do it by yourself.
So. Yeah, like.
It's tough, man.

(38:50):
I'll definitely shout out to all those military personnel that's out there deployed behind for Christmas.
Happy holidays to y'all. Shout out to y'all.
Appreciate our service from the bottom of my heart.
I've been there before. Sean been there before.
And I said we love and appreciate for sure.
Now we did our time, so we we definitely feel ill and we and we definitely are hoping that y'all come back safe and sound to.

(39:17):
Another another another thing that could help us out, you know, with caring and people is highlighting strength and vulnerability.
You know. It's OK to be at a time of like to be in a vulnerable state.
It's OK. I'll be the first to tell you guys it's OK because we go through it.

(39:40):
I'm going to a state of vulnerability right now, like we we go through times where we're just not at 100 percent where we would like to be.
And we just got to we just got to find the strength in it, you know, in vulnerability.
Like what? No, I feel what you're saying, bro.

(40:09):
Vulnerability is. I get it can feel. You know, like saw or, you know, not as or weak or something like that, but it's literally the opposite.
You know what I'm saying? And talking about what you're going through that that's a strong yeah.

(40:30):
And it also can, you know, whoever you're talking to it with, you know, and they can help you, you know, overcome or dig yourself out that hole or, you know, climb up in life or whatever.
You know, help you get back to your original state or whatever, help you make you help you get better.
You know, 100 percent. Yeah. But it's it's OK to be vulnerable. You have but there is a strength in it to embrace it. I'll say, OK, I'm in a bad state right now, but it won't be it won't be that long.

(41:03):
It won't be for it will not be for every viewer fighting to get out of a hole.
You are going to get out of that hole. You know, it's just a bunch of obstacles in your way that you're going to have to overcome.
But you're going to get out of it. You just got to keep going. Just got to keep going. Just got to keep going.
You got to got to keep that care up. If you if you love if you love and you're passionate about getting out of that state of vulnerability, then you're going to get out of it.

(41:32):
Things take time. Like we said, there are obstacles.
It's OK because people go through it. A lot of people go through it as a matter of fact.
So not that OK, especially if you like as far as like career, like you chasing something, you chase in the dream, whatever.
And maybe it's not hitting how you always dreamed it would hit.

(41:56):
You know, you didn't get that big exposure or expectations, expectations.
Right. It's not what you thought. Right.
But you've got to keep going and perfect your craft and keep getting better. You know, I'm saying like hard work pays off.
It does. It pays off. You just got to put it in that work.

(42:17):
That's why they call it hard work. You got to work hard. Yeah.
And another like the last thing that I feel like could help care in society.
I just don't think people have enough resources or support like I don't think we're supportive enough to each other.
You know, when we see when we see like a disparity in care, it goes back to it goes back to the stigma behind caring.

(42:43):
Honestly, I just don't think people have the resources or support.
We're a resource for care because we are a mental health awareness podcast.
I'm a very caring person, I would say. But.
And I'm also out there to support you support as well.

(43:06):
So there is your there is your resource and support your support.
As we always go back to your family, friends.
Anything that can help you is your support. So I just don't think you don't have enough resources and support out there.

(43:29):
Go out there, care, you know, find people. We're not we're not meant to live in this world by ourselves.
No, you're not.
Um, excuse me.
I need me a little of a cup, but no, I'm going to get along. But that goes back to your.

(43:53):
So.
All my all my doors are out there. Do we do we still care about where we go?
Do we hear we go out? We still care about the Falcons.
Do we do we still care about making the playoffs or not? You should not have gave the Panthers a win.

(44:15):
Our head coach. Our head coach should have win. They should be going like oh and 16.
Our head coach does not care. He don't. That's that's that's that's the level of not caring.
You have you have a John Robinson, Drake, London and Calpitt's you have three supernatural.

(44:37):
I would even say they're super natural is they have so much talent, bro.
And we're six and eight. We freaking suck.
There's a whole there's a.
Supposed to be like leaders and stats. I mean, how this came crack out of the yard yet because I don't know why.
But we have we have game plans set up to where you don't catch the ball and just walk for us.

(45:03):
Calp is walking and he needs to find out the full catch catch the ball.
Get a touchdown. Whatever the point is.
We're not we're supposed to be the head coach here about us. You think next year might be good for you?
No, no. I think I think it's going to take time. Nice three to five, three to five years.

(45:28):
I would say three to two to two to three because that owner that owner is also different.
And we had so there was a time.
There was a time where we had a.
The offensive coordinator we had coordinated, but we had a staff in 2016 for that football.

(45:51):
Let them go and look at us now at investments.
That is now what I can't relate. I cannot relate to them. Georgia fans.
I am winning. Yes. And it feels good. I remember we went on 16.
Look at us now. Ten and four. Ten and four.

(46:13):
And the four number two in the conference. Number one in the division.
That's that's that's that's because they have a head coach that fucking cares.
Big Lions. You know, we made some big changes. You know, I'm saying it took us a minute.
You know, I'm saying, like, I'm sure it takes the Falcons like that rebuilding process usually take a few years.

(46:34):
It's not instant. We have rebuilt. We are good.
We're supposed to be good. Rebuilding includes the coach.
Not that it includes the coach.
It includes the coach. I thought we had a good coach.
I thought he was an offensive mastermind, like everyone says.
Whatever, man, get that guy out of here. Get get that that he's on the hot seat right now.

(46:58):
I say burn that seat up. Fire his ass.
I'm going to make a promise. If the Lions win the Super Bowl, they have to get a playoff.
I know. I know. Jumping ahead. Jumping ahead. But that's OK.
This is my bargain or not bargain, but deal that I'm going to make the Lions win a Super Bowl.

(47:25):
I'm a raptor kitty. It's going to look like a whole Detroit lion.
Blue with the big as lion outline on it. I'm going to do the whole nine yards if we win.
And I'm a post it to to back it up.
If so, so if the Lions make it to the Super Bowl and win,
you be careful, San Diego, because there's going to be a Detroit Lions running around.

(47:50):
Yes, it will be. Yes, it will. Look out.
That's going to be tough. I'm not going to lie. All these other kids got anime cars.
He does all there's a wise one once said.
Oh, God. Now, some of the man, my car, the heart, I ain't going to talk too much about all.

(48:17):
Well, all of Georgia sports is is isn't a dumpster fire for us.
I feel bad for you college thing as we I think we talk about that every episode.
Look, I feel bad. You go undefeated, get nothing for it.
The like, imagine the seniors on that team like we just bust every single team.

(48:39):
What my boy said, Georgia people are residents of Georgia suffering.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I forget his name.
I am. I am. I am. Well, it was Tim.
Tim was our guest name.
Handball. What was his name? Mr. 912. Mr. 912. Yeah.

(49:02):
I'm not one to this. Can't wait to have you back.
I can't wait to have you back. I'm going to hit him up.
I'm going to see if he if he can get back on.
But now when he said Georgia, Georgia residents are suffering right now.
Yeah, they are. Yeah, they are.
Because I don't even think the Hawks are going to make the playoffs either.
And also to the to the viewers who are taping in for this.

(49:25):
Definitely like we talked about last time, right?
We give it all donators, bro, a chance to win an interview on the podcast, bro.
So, yeah, don't donate whatever.
Like, you don't have to be much or a lot or anything like that.
Any amount. We're going to put you in a raffle and you're going to win an opportunity to be on the be on the show, man.

(49:49):
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We want to hear your opinions, hear your life lessons, you know, any motivation, you know, any stories you want to share about.
We want to hear we want to talk to you. Yes, sir.
And I'm pretty sure everyone else will want to hear you, too.
I bet everyone's tired to just listen to us.
This is your chance. Your chance. So go ahead.

(50:13):
The donate button should be should be everywhere in our links.
But as soon as we see it, your name's in a raffle.
Definitely like comment, subscribe, check it out on YouTube.
We're available on the Apple podcast. Right.
There's no excuse. You got an iPhone. This app is already on your phone. Right.
Am I right? Oh, God, it's already on your phone.
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(50:37):
Comment on our videos on Tick Tock, Instagram or whatever.
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Bro, definitely hit us up on YouTube, too.
We care about everybody. You ain't got to be special.
No celebrity or whatever.
Regular dude, just like me and Sean regularly. You regular.
OK, bet. We'll get you on here.

(50:58):
We want to talk to you because we care about you.
And like we said, over eight billion people in this world, everyone is special.
Literally everyone. Yes, sir.
You know, the Christmas games are coming back.
Oh, Christmas jerseys.
I don't know. And I don't know if Nike is doing the Christmas jerseys.
But I remember back then, those jerseys be hard.

(51:20):
Yeah, we was just talking about this earlier.
My favorite Christmas game was the big three Miami when they went against the Lakers and the alley oofs was going back and forth.
That was my favorite one. It was going crazy.
Like I said, I was around the time when the Christmas jerseys first start coming out to.
Yeah. With the with the sleaze or whatever.
That was that was hard.
That was hard. Not a sleaze.

(51:41):
Jerseys was hard, especially that commercial who was a James Harden staff.
Steve Nash, Steve Nash, old ass.
Rose. Yeah.
And Lebron. I think that was all of it was another shooter, Katie.
Katie. Yeah. Yeah.
Those are the shooters and then Katie.
That was a hard ass commercial.
I wish I was then be able to do something like that was hard.

(52:02):
That was hard when they sing Jingle Bells from the free throw line.
Yeah, that was hard.
That was definitely hard.
They need to bring that back from the NBA used to be.
I don't know. Do you like the NBA today?
No, I don't like the NBA because I don't like the refs.
Stop giving people text for stupid.
I didn't see how I saved it.
I didn't because I'm giving people tech for stupid stuff.

(52:26):
Draymond. OK, he punched somebody.
Right. But you go down and you dunk a ball and you dunk it on somebody.
And they, you know, that big man celebration, you know, like,
rest of the rock and play the rock, the baby or call it somebody little.
That's what they post to do.
They compete in not only and not only these the best players in the world.

(52:53):
They compete to be the best player in the world.
You know, that's supposed to come out. That dog was to come out.
We love to see it.
We like to see the aggression, the excitement.
Man, I ain't trying to see no ref call a tech.
That's not a play. I don't want to. I don't want to see that.
And next NBA game, I go to the rest or a tech on some B.S.
I'm throwing a tech on the ref period.

(53:15):
Get that ref about it.
Hey, get him out of here.
Hey, that's going to get double tech.
Get him out of here.
Ref, it's hard to get baldheaded.
Call it some dumb call.
Get out of here, bro.
You may call that back when Jordan was playing.

(53:37):
No facts.
I blame the commissioner, bro, because Shaq was breaking the rim.
He was doing that on purpose, bro.
No tech.
We just go in the game.
We don't reschedule it.
He just broke the rim, bro.
That's a tech.
That's a double tech.
Get him out of here.

(53:58):
Well, I go to the crowd and I flex because I'm Jason Tatum and I just dunked on LeBron.
I flex and I get a tech.
It's like, OK.
So they did some fucked up shit to Jokic.
Sorry for cursing again.
It is what it is.
But this man, this man, Jokic, he got fouled trying to lay the ball up, you know, under the goal.

(54:21):
I think I've seen that.
Yeah.
Rep Dan Collins.
So as he was running, he was talking back to the ref.
Double tech and got him out of here.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Like you're messing up the game, bro.
Are these reps like they take it?
Are they taking these things personal?
Like, because you know these are the best players in the world.

(54:44):
You know, part of them being the best is that they got all that pride and, you know, they talk trash.
They talk trash to each other.
That's a part of the game.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you're a ref.
That's a getting your head.
You know what I'm saying?
OK.
He got fouled.
Maybe you missed it.
Cool.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, people are going to get mad that you missed a call, whatever.

(55:06):
Let the game continue and, you know, get better on, you know, looking for these files or whatever.
But don't call no tank because the player want to talk some smack to you, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, yeah, you should only call a tech if it's physical, like if the foul is too hard.
Yeah.
Like stuff like that, like they used to assess stuff, you know, shit like that.

(55:30):
That used to be a tech.
That's that's when I knew a tech was coming in.
It is if someone got fouled.
And now I know a tech is coming because someone just celebrated.
Exactly.
Ron Artest went into the crowd in Detroit and beat up civilians.
He got suspended for a whole year for that, bro.
But yeah, and that I feel like that was a different time.
And low key, they probably was light on him.

(55:53):
He probably should have got kicked out of NBA personally.
That's what I think.
No. Yeah.
People have people have been banned from the NBA for lesser things.
You see what I'm saying?
You were expecting people for celebrating.
Ron Artest go punch, knock out three dudes who already drunk.
So they can't even defend him for a year.

(56:18):
But you go kick a dude out of the game for going up to the crowd and
catering the baby.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, come on, man.
Somebody's rather not a different game is going to be like the people
get punched.
I ain't calling nothing.
I ain't calling nothing.
I probably won't even call hard fouls.
They're going to get mad at me.
The players, the players will get mad at me.
Don't get mad at me. Play the game.

(56:42):
Don't lie.
Don't lie.
Don't lie.
Bro, with Christmas out, man, I ain't go a lot, man.
I haven't seen any movies.
I haven't heard any music.
I haven't.
I ain't been playing that.
Marry Carrie.
Sorry.
So I feel like I feel like the spirit should be coming back.

(57:03):
Like, I feel like if people cared, I would probably.
I would probably go out, go out of my way, see a movie.
But I just I just do not feel like there's there's there's care in the world.
I don't want to watch the grinch again either.
I'm done watching the grinch.
Yeah, I know the grinch like the back of my head.
Like I can I can sing that song too.

(57:25):
Like, oh, I love it.
I'll be more than I was.
You know what I mean?
Mr. Grinch.
Right.
That was my shit, bro.
Growing up.
Yeah, growing up, definitely Christmas was a was a different time.

(57:47):
I used to watch all the movies.
You know what?
I did watch a Christmas movie this year.
Right after next.
That is a Christmas movie, technically.
Yeah, one of the best.
Yeah, it is funny.
And the tanning.
Yeah, definitely.
That's a good choice.
Watch Friday after next if you didn't watch it.
Friday after next.

(58:08):
Brothers barbecue tastes so good.
Slap your mom.
Tired of going up the street where they give you more sauce than they give you meat.
You shouldn't know.
You should know every Friday off the back of your head.
Everybody.
But today I want to try to watch Friday after next.
Yeah, watch right after next.

(58:30):
Watch with your family.
Tradition.
Tradition.
Are we coming up on that time?
Yeah.
So before I before before we go, I want to I want to leave a question with the viewers.
Well, and ask all the questions.
So question for y'all.
I'm a reader to y'all to fuck it.
How can individuals you're so like us, you know, a person, how can individuals navigate the balance between

(58:57):
caring for others and prioritizing their own mental health during the holidays?
We have we have some answers for you.
You can set boundaries like we said, practice self care.
Set realistic expectations to that.
That's a big one.
And definitely and comment your answers because we don't post that as a snippet.

(59:19):
Comment your answers and we're going to get back to you.
What a response I go for everybody.
Yeah, we'll hit you back with our thoughts.
But that's a question that I want you guys to think about.
How can individuals navigate the balance between caring for others and prioritizing their own mental health during the holidays?
And don't even apply just to the holidays.

(59:41):
If you're having a hard time with prioritizing the two, think about it now.
Think about everyday struggles.
And just like that, we are out of here.
Merry Christmas.
Happy New Year.
All of that.
Call your folks.
Peace to your folks.
Watch Friday after next.
We'll see you all next week.
Happy holidays, everyone.

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Bye.
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