August 14, 2024 • 41 mins
Explore the art of self-discovery and healing through the unique lens of creative arts and spirituality with our inspiring guest, Kellie Walsh, founder of The Divine Hive. Renowned for her soul portraits, Kellie combines professional photography with deep spiritual insight to guide individuals on transformative journeys. Hear about her pivotal moment of revelation with a respected channeler and how it led her to integrate meditative practices into her work, offering clients a holistic experience that transcends traditional photography.
Kellie shares captivating anecdotes that highlight the challenges and rewards of maintaining spiritual composure in everyday life, even in high-pressure scenarios. Explore how spirituality can be seamlessly integrated into corporate environments, fostering a compassionate workplace culture. We also dive into the balance of divine feminine and masculine energies, and how professionals can align their trade with conscious and holistic clients for a more fulfilling career.
Tune in for an episode brimming with insights and inspiration for creatives and spiritual seekers alike.
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Yuli (00:04):
Welcome to the Heallist Podcast, where we inspire and
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stories.
We dive into the quantum fieldto unlock the energies of
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I'm your host, Yuli, and I'mgrateful you chose to join this
space.
Now let's go deep.
Hello, my dear friends, andwelcome to another amazing,
inspiring episode of the Heallpodcast.
Today we have Kellie Walsh andwe're talking about merging
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creative arts and spirituality.
So I'm super excited tointroduce Kellie.
She is a visionary who hasmasterfully combined creative
arts and spirituality into aunique and transformative career
path.
As the founder of The DivineHive, Kellie merges her talents
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as a professional photographerwith her deep spiritual insight
to guide individuals on theirjourneys of self-discovery and
healing.
Kellie's approach blendsintuitive guidance, energy
healing and the creation of soulportraits, unique visual
representations of her clientsin her transformations.
I love this so much and soamazing to have you here and to
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set intention for this episode.
I really feel deeply.
The moment we spoke, I feltthis urge to introduce our
audience to what you do, becauseI have a feeling there's a lot
of creatives out there that aresitting in their seats with
their screens in front of themand really contemplating how can
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they bring together theirspirituality and creative arts.
And you've done it, my friend,so I do hope to inspire a lot of
our listeners.
So welcome to the podcast.
Kellie (02:05):
Oh, my God, thank you so much and I'm so excited to be
here and this is kind of like acontinuation of a previous
dialogue that we had on apersonal level, but I think it's
so important to discuss.
You know our merging of ourcreativity and our spirituality
in what we do.
You know, I feel like you know,paths - our creativity is a
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spiritual path and there reallydoesn't have to be a separation,
but we often do that in our ownminds and our own lives.
So I really am so excited to behere and to help people
navigate and to find that that,you know, destination, that
place to bring the two worldstogether, to feel completely
whole in what they do and whothey want to be.
Yuli (02:51):
So true, so true.
So, just as we're diving in,can you just start by outlining
what is in your, from yourexperience, you saw as kind of
like someone who combined both.
What are the similar patternsthat you're seeing?
What was the "aha" moments thatyou realized?
"Oh, actually, my creative workis spiritual work, and vice
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versa.
Kellie (03:15):
I mean, there was really actually a very definitive,
pivotal moment.
You know I have been on thespiritual path my whole life.
I mean I started - I didn'teven want to tell people.
I started writing morning pagesfrom reading The Artist's Way
many years ago.
So in 1998, I started doingmorning pages and don't do the
math, it was a long time ago andyou know, that kind of that
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allowing, like she says in thebook, releasing that inner
critic and working through, likewriting, as a way to connect to
that inspirational spiritualmindset, was such a game changer
for me.
So for the longest time I didthis and it was very private, it
was on my own and I had a verystrong spiritual path of
meditating, going to workshops.
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But then, probably about maybeseven years ago, this woman
who's a channeler, who I reallyrespect and she does privates
and she does one-on-one, and shesaid to me well, you know
you're a channeler and you knowwhat you do - you receive a lot
of information and downloads andshe was the one that put the
seed in.
What you do as a photographeris the same as the intuitive
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downloads you receive as achanneler, because I always
considered myself a seer, as achanneler, like I could see
timelines.
I can you know when I receivedownloads and information, it's
not so much that I actually cansee them or hear them, it's more
a clear cognitive aspect whereit's a real deep knowing.
But I also felt myself as a seerand I often call myself a seer
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in the spiritual world.
And then it was like, "hello,I'm a photographer, of course
I'm a seer, you know.
So I mean, I think after thatfirst you know that one-on-one
with her she really put you know, even maybe deep down inside, I
always knew what I was doingwas spiritual.
At that point I no longerseparated them.
You know, it was almost like mycoming out party, you know,
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like people in my you know whatI mean?
People in my photography world,which I kept very private from
my spiritual world.
I started to merge themtogether.
Yuli (05:15):
So what was that process like?
Because I'm always curious whenpeople have that, those deep
moments of understanding,something that really shifts
their perspective and puts themin a different box, in a
different plane, right?
But you still have your oldidentity and this incredibly
successful career going, right?
Did you kind of - some peoplego back and start questioning,
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of course, and some people findways, like yourself, to
transform it and elevate thatcraft as well.
But what was that process likefor you?
Kellie (05:47):
Well, I think you know it's interesting because I come
from a creative field and so itwas kind of an easy segue for me
to you know become, you knowtaking my spiritual approach to
my photographic process.
You know, when I started, whenI started to do not so much, you
know, weddings, which I did alot of, but even weddings when I
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would get to a place or if Idid a portrait session, I would
have them have tea with me andbe in a meditative state before
we started to like have them,you know they didn't really know
what I was doing.
I was like creating and I wouldask them what their intention
was.
And I would ask them, like youknow, how are they feeling?
Like you know, I didn't everwant somebody to run into my
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studio, I'm like, "oh, I'm sorry, I'm late, I'm late and jump
into the shoot".
I wanted them to be that sense.
So I think the first thing wasthe mindset of the intention,
bringing the intention that youalways have in your spiritual
work and your path, and how thedialogue, the way you speak, the
way you move, your energy,bringing that into what I did
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for my human-ing, my human job,my human-ing aspect of my life.
So I started subtly at first bydoing stuff like that, and then
another thing too is I wasn'tafraid any longer to separate
them.
I wasn't afraid to tell peopleabout my spiritual path.
You know, I wasn't you know,when people, when I would come
into a job, they're like "oh,you're so calm, you have such an
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ease about you," and I'm likewell, you know, this is what I
do and this is part of whatbrings that creativity and that
joy to the photo world, so thephotographic world that I was
merging together".
So I think that for the longesttime, people that like,
especially my commercial clients, they didn't know about my
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meditations, that I'm achanneler, like I speak to
galactic aliens and I'm achanneler - can you believe that
?
I mean like I don't know ifthey would hire me back again.
But after a while I was likeyou know, I don't care, that's
who I am.
You know, this is a pot thatfeeds me.
That feeds me to be able to bethe best photographer I can be,
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to be able to not just like tobe able to see what my clients
needs, but also understand andput a set of intention in there.
So it was just, you know, it'severything's about energy and
you know you can't think energy,you have to always feel energy,
right?
So going from that thinkingmind to that feeling heart, like
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that kind of switchenergetically, is what I did as
I started bringing my spiritualapproach to my professional life
.
I mean, a lot of people too,it's - I think it's sometimes
easier when you're in thecreative world to be able to
slowly merge those.
But I don't think, I think youcan be whatever you do, you can
be an accountant, you know.
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You can be a banker, you canwork on Wall Street, you can -
anything that you do, you canbring that mindset, you know?
For us in the creative worlds,it's a little bit easy, I think,
because we're already usingthat intuitive left side of our
brain.
You know we're usually we'reusing, we're going back and
forth and being able to, youknow, view and see the world in
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a very kind of fluid way forcreatives, don't you agree?
Yuli (09:01):
Yeah, absolutely, and it's interesting that you mentioned
that that you know you feltnaturally to kind of start
bringing into your work because,like you write people in this
industry a little more receptive.
But I wonder if you had anystories or any examples how you
know you integrate something oryou really did something bold
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maybe that you wouldn't darebefore, and what was the outcome
?
Kellie (09:27):
Well, one little subtle thing I did was I started, you
know, all my crystals andjewelry I would always wear now,
like, no matter what job I did,you know.
So people that that was like,people would ask me.
They would stop and like, "ohmy god, that's what is that?
And I would say, h, it's aselenite crystal," or it's this?
And and then "W hy do you wearthem?
"I'm like, "well, you know, part
of it is like, I believe there'sa consciousness of the crystals
that can help influence us,that we can, or even as a
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talisman, it's something thatyou can hold on if you're
feeling stressed.
" So that would be, like youknow, during my when I started.
I work a lot for New YorkPresbyterian Hospital and I
shoot all their high-end events.
So I started changing mywardrobe a little bit by just
adding all these pieces - that'slike a very subtle thing that I
did, you know, but like it wasan intention because I knew I
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would start a conversation withpeople that would never even be
open to that, you know, andputting a little seed into
somebody you know like "oh,consciousness of crystals?
What does that mean?
Yuli (10:24):
You know, That is amazing.
I love this kind of cocktailconversation starter.
Kellie (10:30):
Exactly, exactly, you know.
I think you know it's reallyand that's a very easy way to do
that, like I'm trying to thinkof any other way that I love
that cocktail conversation thatyou just said.
That's very interesting, but itis definitely a way to get
people to be engaged, you knowyeah, and
Yuli (10:46):
I think, Especially in the New York scene right, we both
kind of come from that scenewhen everyone is so like agenda-
driven, right?
Oh yeah, yeah, and you come inwith your crystals.
It's a different - suddenly theconversation shifts.
Kellie (11:01):
Exactly, exactly.
And because people are curious, you know, when they see
something or some or experiencesomething that they're not
especially like you said, in NewYork and working for, like the
you know, for the example, thehospitals and some of my other
big clients you know they're,they have an agenda.
They have, you know, they havethis idea that they have to
complete something, that they're, they're goal driven.
And you know, because they'reso goal driven, they often get
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caught in that looping, right?
That mental looping, you know,and all of a sudden, somebody or
something just kind of stopsthat, you know, it stops that
that narrow plasticity of abrain, you know that?
You know, like Dr.
Joe Dispenza says, you know, oh, you know, Dr.
Joe, "w fires together, wirestogether, right.
So like, yes, let's stop thatkind of looping of our mental
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thoughts and really to treatpeople, especially in any kind
of profession, out of that kindof mental prison, if you would
say, you know, that kind of, youknow, head first instead of
heart first it should be heartfirst.
Yuli (12:05):
Yes, absolutely, and you mentioned my favorite teacher,
so we have to talk about thatbecause, I mean, I feel like he
talked, I just just came backfrom a retreat I I want to hear
a lot about and it's probably Iprobably should record another
episode.
But one of the fascinatingmeditations we did is his new
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walking meditation - i t'scalled Changing Boxes.
Kellie (12:28):
Changing Boxes.
Yuli (12:29):
Yes, and he had that seated meditation version for a
long time.
It's one of his most popularones that really changes
people's neuroplasticity, likeyou said.
But the walking meditation wasreally incredible because the
way he does it, you start withyour eyes closed and then slowly
, when you open your eyes,eventually you literally you
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feel like you're in another box,you're in another dimension and
it was just such a fascinatingexperience and you know, walking
out there with 1800 peopledoing it together.
And we all open our eyes in adifferent plane.
I can definitely feel kind oflike everything you're talking
about and I also love this idea,as I'm stepping more on this
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journey to kind of not in a wayto challenge people that I
interact with, especially peoplenot from this world, but just
kind of open up their box andpotentially introduce another
box, right, well, there's otherplanes that exist, that those
rules that you live by, theyjust don't exist there.
Kellie (13:37):
Right.
Yuli (13:38):
It's so fascinating to watch, kind of like, you t's
know, know shift and get curiousand something.
Some cells change in thoseconversations for sure.
So I love that you do that.
And then you took it even stepfurther at some point and I want
to talk about that because Ithink the idea the moment I saw
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your website and I saw what youdo and then you call it soul
portraits, I was just"yes yes,yes, this is so genius because I
think a lot of us and it allcomes down and I'm sure you have
the whole science behind it,like our own perception and you
know our own external image andthe pressures that come with it,
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and your process is kind ofcompletely different and how you
manage to combine both,eventually giving as a
photographer, giving your clientthat product that they came for
, right, that image that theydesire, but also combine that
with that internaltransformation, potentially come
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up with something that isreally their true essence.
I think a lot of us these days,and then in the day, what we're
going through, it's thisprocess of like peeling off and
uncovering our true nature,because our true nature is
divine, right, and all thoselayers that we built on top and
we're born with well, actually,we're not always born with, but
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you get it.
So talk about that process, howgoing okay, you know, wearing
crystals to a cocktail party isfun, but then how do you take
that and really say, okay, I'mready to transform those people?
Kellie (15:17):
Well, I think that, okay , I think what we'll do, we'll
talk about it in two ways.
First, kind of more in ageneral, like, say, I'm working
an event or a commercial job orsomething that you know is you
know, more a group setting.
Because, you know, we areliving vessels of the divine.
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Everything that we do in thisphysical body is for the
experience of the divine to haveform, and so everything that we
do is divine, everything we dois spiritual.
We have put the box around whatis spiritual and what isn't
spiritual.
So if we first can take awaythe idea that, like I say, I'll
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go back to the account he's aspiritual being.
You know right, he's the eventhe guy on Wall Street - deep
down, he is a spiritual being.
He is a part of God and we needto see that and reflect that.
And but we just need to havehim look and change the shape of
his box.
You know I love the box thing.
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They just don't I'm going tohave to use it all the time.
It's great and you know, so ifI'm, I'm going to give you an
example of something that'sreally interesting.
You know, I'm shooting awedding and weddings are so
stressful, you know, you try tobe that kind of you try to like
I'm not going to say spiritualbeing, because we are.
I just said we are spiritualbeings.
That is our innate nature.
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But we get clouded with our ownexpectations of what we think
define us right and thepressures of, like, a wedding
photography, a weddingphotography.
I'm shooting somebody's wedding.
There's a lot of expectation,there's a lot of things that I
need to create for these peopleto capture those moments.
So we're late running to thischurch and we were doing all the
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family pictures first.
And we all come running intothe church and it's this big, I
don't know Episcopalian, I think, a Methodist church in New York
City with a lot of rules and alot of regulations.
So we're all running in and thewoman that was in charge of, I
guess, the church, she comes upto me and she starts yelling at
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me and she starts in my facesaying "you're late, you can't
come here, you can't do that,you know, and like, just like,
like literally in my face, andI'm like, oh wow.
So I'm like, okay, is spiritualKellie going to be here, or is
Kellie from Worcester going tocome here?
But you know so, so I had tolike.
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So I really had to like, andit's a daily practice in
everything you do, because we dohave one foot in one world and
one foot in another world.
Often, right, that's our liferight now, that's being human.
We have to experience that.
So I took a deep breath and,you know, instead of reacting
and being triggered like howdare, how dare you?
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You know, don't?
You know who I am?
You know, and I'm trying tohear, I'm here for the branding
group.
I'm trying to help, I'm tryingto make their you know, this
experience great for them, so wecan capture beautiful imagery
but not stress them out.
So I had to take a deep, deepbreath and I'm thinking I'm
going to shift her.
You know, I don't know if youknow what this is.
I'm going to shift her.
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So, instead of reacting, Iclosed my eyes and I said to
myself I want I don't even knowwhat the woman's name was.
I would like to speak to thiswoman's higher self.
I would like to be able toconnect to something that is not
in this physical incarnation,within this box of what she
feels between us.
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I would like it to go away.
I would like her to understandthat we both want the same
things, that we want this brideand groom to have the best
experience of their life.
You know, we're just comingfrom it from different points,
and so I just closed my eyes andthen the wedding started.
It was a long hour mass.
You know we're just coming fromit from different points, and
so I just closed my eyes andthen the wedding started.
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It was a long hour mass andthen, during the middle of the
ceremony, she comes up to me.
She's like hey, she's like, ifyou want to move closer, go
ahead, it's okay.
I'm like, oh, really.
And then she's like yeah, yeah,don't worry about it, don't
worry about it.
And then later on, she's likeyou know what, when you're
walking backwards and takingpictures, I'm going to stay
behind you so you don't fall.
Yuli (19:43):
That is incredible.
Okay, I love this story so much.
I know, yes, that's the shift.
Kellie (19:52):
So I think you know, okay, you've got the cocktail
conversation with the crystals,and then you have your own
ability to shift by going intoyour heart and trying to connect
to the person's higher self,the person's, that, something
that's not tethered to their egoand their physicality, right,
and I mean I just say thatbecause that I mean I've tried
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that with other people and allthat, but that was the most
profound experience I've everhad in my life in regards to
that.
You know, it was just oh, I gotbubble thumb up, thumbs up,
bubble.
Yuli (20:25):
It literally just happened .
I didn't press anything, I wasjust sitting here and my
computer did that for you.
I think there is some.
Maybe my higher self justthumbed you up, I don't know.
Yeah, that was our listenerscan see it.
But it was kind of a a littlebit surreal experience where my
computer just popped.
Kellie (20:46):
And at the perfect timing, because, I said, my most
profound experience thumbs up.
So it really was.
So if you know, often you knowand again you know, we're so
human and you know we're alwaysgoing to be triggered.
I always say that healing iswhen you realize you're
triggered, right, and the amountof time that that awareness
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happens and then the amount oftime where you can let it go.
When that time becomes shorterand shorter, well, maybe it's
only like 30 seconds, you'relike, oh, triggered, okay, I'm
going to come into here, alwayscoming into the heart.
So I think when I had thatexperience with that woman at
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that church during a big weddingin New York City, I realized
that my spiritual path could besimply always being present
within my highest self, withinthat heart-centered flame, no
matter where I go and what I doas a career.
Like that's a simple thing todo for anybody to start Like,
play around with that.
You know, see how you feel,everything's about how you feel.
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I mean I can't really emphasizehow much it is to be in that
heart space.
Yuli (21:56):
And then you know, it's just.
I just want to take a pause onthat because it's first of all,
such a beautiful story and alsoreally amazing lesson, and
really I think if anyone cantake like one takeaway from this
conversation is you know, yourtitle doesn't need to be a
spiritual healer to do the workwe need to do.
Kellie (22:23):
It's exactly.
I think it's either it's likethat phrase an urban monk.
You know it's like, you know,be on the mountain and have that
committed spiritual life whichis so important, but be in the
trenches, you know, be in it.
Yuli (22:33):
Be a wedding photographer in new york city?
Kellie (22:36):
yeah, exactly yeah, exactly where you're dealing
with a lot of personalities anda lot.
So you know, I'm so.
I really like use that as thegold standard of when I'm, you
know, being triggered.
You know, when I work for NewYork Presbyterian Hospital.
I love all of them, but it's avery high stress environment
with the people that areorganizing everything.
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So I literally, on the way downto the job, will start feeling
this stress in my stomach.
I'll be going, oh, oh no, oh no, I can feel the anxiety.
I can feel that because I thinkthe more you do it, it's like a
muscle right, it becomesstronger, because it becomes
more intuitive.
So as soon as I get in there, Itake a deep breath and then I
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go up to everybody and I lookthem in the eyes.
I'm like, how's it going?
And like I talked to him inthat kind of meditative voice a
little bit.
You know a lot of pauses inbetween the words, you know
lowing the octave and and theymight even for a second just
stop, but it's that interruption.
Yuli (23:37):
I love those little interventions that and I wish I
had you, because I used to runthose 500 people events in the
city in my previous chapter, andyou know it's funny because I
used to get so stressed and itdoesn't matter how much you know
, I would relax or meditatebefore or whatever I try to do.
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You just get into that likestress ball zone that you're
discovering.
I wish, first of all, that Ihad you by my side to intervene,
but in a way, you know, Istarted looking at it as, like
this is my exercise to cut, tocontinue.
I'm going to continue doingthose events until the point
that I can completely relax andcompletely surrender to the
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experience and know thateverything is just going to go
just as it's planned, just likeas it's supposed to be, and I do
not need to sacrifice my ownyou know well-being around peace
to achieve that.
So you know, speaking of which,I'm in the midst of organizing
another big event with, I know,as you know.
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So I really look at it like I'mactually looking forward to
that as an opportunity to putmyself in a new box.
Yeah and see, can I do thatwithout having all that stress
and all those feelings?
So thanks for reminding that,because I can still relate to
that we know it's a practice.
Kellie (25:01):
That's a practice.
It's a spiritual practice.
Just what you did being like.
You know if people, even in thecorporate world, if they could
get some instruction or somekind of guidance to know that
they're going to be stressed,they have a lot of pressure on
their hand, but it but it's anexercise of how you can come
from a space of honoringyourself, because that stress is
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not good for you.
It's going to wreak havoc toyour body and then just the
energy that you put out it'slike a ripple.
It's going to create anxietyand stress.
And it's also an exercise onfaith and trust.
Especially, you could plan thebest event.
Everything would be perfect,but something can happen.
That it's it's.
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And you have to understand thatto be in the flow of the divine
is to be in a place of noexpectations and no agenda.
Such a hard thing to put thatinto practice when you're in the
corporate America.
Right, because that's allcorporate America is all about
right America.
Right, because that's allcorporate America is all about
right.
So you know, I said, wouldn'tit be amazing if, like CEOs,
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comes up to you and say, is to ameeting, I have no agenda, I
have no expectations of you.
I just want you to do the bestthat you can.
That's all I want from you.
Wouldn't that be an amazing waythat you can shift an energy
and a whole corporation office?
And then you know, because Ijust I've always seen a little
bit different.
When I was in college, I, youknow, worked for a corporate
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owned restaurant and they hadall these rules that I thought
were not beneficial or good andI'm like, well, I'm not going to
do that.
That doesn't make no sense tome and literally I was fired the
next day.
So so you know, keep thinkingoutside the box, keep being a
seer and stay true to yourselfand understand that.
I mean, that's the way you cantake whatever profession you are
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and make it your spiritualpractice.
Okay, if you want to completelyand I don't, you know, and too,
like a lot of people think thatyou know I want to stop being an
accountant I'm sorry I keeptalking about accountants, but
it comes to my mind and orwhatever you're doing for a nine
to five, and completely go intothe healing arts.
You know that's a big jump offaith and you can, like I said,
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you always have that spiritualpractice, so you don't have to
think all or nothing, one or theother.
You know you can do a blenduntil you feel comfortable, to
the right opportunities come toyou, because I think you know
the biggest problem we can havein the world is that spiritual
egotism.
You know that is yes, yes,absolutely.
You know I just was writingabout that before we had this
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call.
And you know, it's often likeego finds its way, really, and
I'm not going to give ego acompletely bad rap because I
respect that ego has kept yousafe, kept us safe when we were
younger.
But it's an untethered ego thatyou need to watch out and a
spiritual egotism is like whatis my, what is my mission on
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earth?
Right?
You know it's like that energybehind it.
You know your mission on earthis be a flow of divine.
Whatever you do, every step youtake is divine, is spiritual.
You know, if you find thatyou're a Reiki healer or you
have these other gifts, you're achanneler and you want to
expand in them.
That's beautiful, but wait forthe flow of the divine to show
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you the way.
You know it's that trusting inthat divine feminine energy.
Yuli (28:26):
You know that's an amazing advice and, first of all, two
things I wanted to point out isone like the idea of, yes,
spiritual superiority, you know,and the whole division between
the spiritual, non-spiritualworld.
I completely agree with you.
It's all made up labels, justthe same labels that we use, you
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know, in the 3D world.
But I also, you know, just toinspire some accountants among
our listeners, like I know somany amazing people in the
finance and accounting industrythat are moving to work with,
whether it's consciousbusinesses or holistic clients,
and they love that because theyfind that fulfillment of keeping
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their trade and the professionand the skills that they've
gained over the years and, youknow, just finding clients that
are more aligned with theircurrent state.
That is maybe a little moreawakened.
So I think there's a lot ofroom and I'm always excited when
I meet those people fromindustries that are supposed to
be opposite of what we do, right, but they have that side.
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It's just such a refreshing itis.
And we need more people.
We need more people on WallStreet who understand healing
arts.
Kellie (29:44):
Oh, yeah, let's not even go about politics, that's
nothing.
But yes, it's so true and it'slike you know it's also you have
to think about.
It's all about.
You know they talk about twinflames, right, what is a twin
flame?
And really it is having thatfeminine.
I think we are all our truetwin flame.
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To try to find a twin flameoutside of yourself, I think,
has been hijacked a bit.
I think the real, true conceptof that is having the
relationship, the marriagewithin of yourself of the divine
feminine aspect and the divinemasculine.
So having somebody that canhelp you with your website, with
your accounting, with all that,that has those skills and you
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have such strong intuitiveskills and you come together,
that's a divine union.
Divine union doesn't have to besexual, doesn't have to be
physical right?
Divine union is coming togetherto create the best divine union
is coming together to createthe best possible expansion for
both people.
Yuli (30:44):
Love this so much.
Another deep pause and deepbreath and just you know
enjoying this, this metaphor, somuch.
And speaking of divine union,let's finally talk about your
soul portraits.
Kellie (30:57):
Yes, so so after I had that conversation with the woman
that was a channeler who toldme about that, I really sat down
and said "how can I reallymerge my love of photography and
my love of photographing peopleand my abilities to channel and
to connect and to see beyondkind of this three-dimensional
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world, right?
So I started to play aroundwith the idea of soul portraits
and what that would look like,and on the last few retreats
I've had, I've actuallyincorporated the soul portraits
at the end of the retreat andit's interesting what I really
have come to understand and Iactually have found a beautiful
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way of combining them.
And what I do is we usually doan oracle.
Usually I tell the person whosigns up for a soul portrait do
not have an agenda, do not havean expectation, do not think
that you're going to use thisfor your LinkedIn headshot.
You know, because this is notthat.
You come here because you wantto see your true divine state.
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You want to have.
You know, it's almost like I'mwitnessing the unfolding of you
beneath the skin in a way.
So we have usually I will tuneinto the person.
I will get like a message of aplace or a meditation.
I remote.
When I do my guided meditationsit's really remote viewing.
I can remote view, if you knowwhat that is.
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It's an ability to see, likesee other timelines, other
dimensions, be able to go there.
So that's how I do my guidedmeditations.
I will like remote view andtake them on a journey with me
of what I see.
So that's kind of what I'vebeen doing with the soul
portraits.
So if you sit down with me I'llget an idea, say, for instance,
the last one.
I okay, there's two I just didrecently that were pretty
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amazing.
This, this one gentleman.
I just know him prior so I knowhe has very elven energy, very
Merlin energy, even in hisappearance.
Right now he's a healer.
So I knew where I was going totake him when he pulled.
But he pulled the card.
So I have people pull a cardfirst, an Oracle card, and that
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usually will give meconfirmation where I want to go.
So with him he of course gotthe Elven Council as his card.
So I'm like, okay, let's gothere.
So we did.
I took him to the journey tolike the Crystal City of Light,
whatever I saw.
I took him to this where wecame together and it's a short
meditation 20 minutes and wejust sat there and he received
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information and he actuallystarted speaking light language.
That's something he's beenworking trying to achieve.
And then when he's after themeditation and we came back he,
I took his, his photos.
You know, at first I I'velearned now, after doing for a
couple years, that I wait tillthey come out of meditation for
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us before I start shooting,because most people like like a
totally out, you know, like themouth some hanging and their
heads to the side.
You know they look like they'vebeen in a deep sleep for about
an hour.
So I wait they come out to acertain point and then I start
photographing them and I kind ofjust, you know, I just give you
know lead them a little bitwith.
You know, I usually put them ina place where I can get some
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beautiful light on them.
And just, you know, anotherperson, this guy, Scott, who's a
chiropractor like I, I had I,he pulled the owl card, so I
knew I was going to take him toa place where you could have
that freedom with his wings,like that's what I felt he
needed.
I felt like he was very stuckso, and so afterwards I took
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these beautiful shots with hishands and black and white, and
it was so beautiful, so later onthey would have that photograph
.
I usually give them a wholeseries of photographs as kind of
a talisman, like arepresentation of.
So I always say print it, putit on your altar, have it as a
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reminder of the story.
So most of the story you know,so most of the meditations,
would be something thatsomebody's working through.
Or maybe you know one woman Itook to Lemuria and I actually
gave her and Scott a name.
They received a name from that.
I channeled for them so theycan use the name for themselves
or write it down or, like Iusually will write their name on
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the photograph that comes to it.
And and that's the soulportraits.
Yuli (35:18):
Wow, that is incredible.
As you were talking, I'm like Ihave to have one, I have to have
this session with you.
It just sounds so special and Ilove the idea that you're
capturing that moment, because Ithink a lot of us have this
beautiful moments in meditationand then you kind of come out of
it and it's gone.
I mean, you can journal and youcan try to kind of write it,
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but just to capture that I thinkit's just a beautiful gift.
Kellie (35:44):
Yes, it really is, and it is.
That's why, like, thephotograph can be so powerful,
you know, because it can takeyou back to that memory, it can
take you back to yourremembering, you know.
You know, I think that, youknow, journaling is so important
.
I'm a big journaler and, youknow, I think that combination
of coming out of meditations andthat, and then also too, when
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everything's done, we will putsome music on and do a little
dancing just to get the energymoving, you know.
So that's kind of been thesequence of how I fine-tuned the
soul portraits, because itdefinitely has been kind of a
work.
You know, I'm working out thelogistics of how to combine the
two because, you know, usuallymy healing arts is group
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meditations where we go, and youknow, I just did, like I said,
I just finished a series wherewe did the chakras with the
inner dimensions of the earth,like.
So each chakra was represented,like the first dimension was a
root chakra, the seconddimension was a sacral, so I
just finished a whole series ofthat.
But that's very much groupsetting, you know.
So for me to make thatexperience into a one-on-one and
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then combine it with a portraitsession was, you know, a work
in progress but I think, prettymuch fine-tuned it and I'm very
excited about what I've beendoing lately.
Yuli (37:02):
So this is a very special thing that you're doing and I
hope you know more people getyour experience that, because
all of us deserve a soulportrait.
I think there's way too manyheadshots and now, with AI
headshots that I can't.
Kellie (37:18):
I see them, I go.
That's the end of our careers,oh, ends of our professions,
right there.
Yuli (37:24):
No, I think this is the beginning of the the boom of the
soul portrait.
Kellie (37:28):
It's the beginning of the soul portraits.
Yuli (37:30):
Yes, because AI will never be able to do what you do.
I had absolutely no doubt inthat.
Kellie (37:45):
Yeah, no, I'm, you know, I'm so thrilled that my journey
has led me here, you know,because I love doing soul
portraits, like you know.
If I can just, you know, movingforward, if I can be blessed
enough to be able to do the soulportraits, do my guided
meditations and retreats, Iwould have a blessed life.
I spent years, I've been aphotographer since I was 18.
So I spent years in thetrenches doing lots of work I
can't even tell you how many 600weddings, maybe?
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Lots of weddings and a lot ofcommercial work, fashion work.
I was shot a lot in the fashionindustry and that's a whole
different set of issues and andpersonalities, as you say.
But even even when I stillshoot fashion now, like I come
in with, I'm going to shiftpeople.
I'm going to take this, makethis an elevated experience, you
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know, because that's what wecan do as healers, you know.
Yuli (38:35):
Amazing.
I love what you do and I justlove the idea of having you in
those industries still andshifting people and elevating
wherever you go.
So it's just truly inspiringand I know a lot of our
listeners are listening to youcould relate to a lot of those
stories and maybe open some ofthe horizons and introduce some
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new boxes that they can try.
So, as we coming up to the end,I can't believe it.
Can you do have any last wordsof wisdom for our listeners?
Kellie (39:29):
I think that the biggest thing that prevents people from
expanding and moving outsidetheir box that they feel very
comfortable in is fear.
Right?
Was that false evidenceappearing true?
I think that's what they callfear, something like you know.
Try to start some kind ofmeditative practice if they feel
like they can't meditate.
Just focus on the breath 10minutes of just focusing on your
breath, walking out in natureand removing, you know, any kind
of self-created obstacles thatthey might find.
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Remove that fear, you know, andtake baby steps.
You know, take baby stepsBecause baby steps builds that
kind of synchronicity, nerve ormuscle, like you know.
You start to havesynchronicities, you start to
think you become a manifester,you know, because you start
doing those baby steps and say Isee myself doing this, I see my
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future as this, but I am notgoing to put an expectation or
an agenda, I'm just going to bein a state of gratitude.
This is Dr.
Joe, very much right.
"Be in a state of gratitude andallow it to come to you.
Right, Allow whatever thefuture is to come to you for
your best expression of yourdivinity, because when we move
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forward and try to grab ontosomething, that's very masculine
and it's also like saying thatwe don't have it now.
It's that lack of mentality andwe're not going to receive it
because we feel like we don'thave it and we're grabbing onto
it.
But if we just can sit in astate of openness and, believe
me, I'm triple 20, as they say,I'm 60.
So it's taken me a long time toget to this point and, believe
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me, I have days where I'm threesteps back, but then I just jump
forward and go as far as I canand just be kind to yourself.
I can and just, you know.
Be kind to yourself, don'tjudge yourself.
You know we're all on this ridebeing human together.
So that's just what I have.
Yuli (41:21):
Absolutely Well.
I have lots of gratitude forguests like yourself who really
inspire our listeners, inspireme, who show different paths
that you can take and still besuccessful by the normal terms
just right call them right, butjust create incredible impact
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and heal wherever you go,elevate, raise vibrations
wherever you go.
So I'm grateful for humans likeyourself who walk on this
planet, especially in New YorkCity.
We need you.
Please continue to do what youdo.
Kellie (42:04):
Thank you so much, and thank you for inviting me to be
on this.
I'm so excited that we met andI'm excited to see what our
future is for us and thebeautiful things you're going to
be doing and yeah, so, thankyou so much.
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Now let's go deep.
Hello, my dear friends, andwelcome to another amazing,
inspiring episode of the Heallpodcast.
Today we have Kellie Walsh andwe're talking about merging
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creative arts and spirituality.
So I'm super excited tointroduce Kellie.
She is a visionary who hasmasterfully combined creative
arts and spirituality into aunique and transformative career
path.
As the founder of The DivineHive, Kellie merges her talents
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as a professional photographerwith her deep spiritual insight
to guide individuals on theirjourneys of self-discovery and
healing.
Kellie's approach blendsintuitive guidance, energy
healing and the creation of soulportraits, unique visual
representations of her clientsin her transformations.
I love this so much and soamazing to have you here and to
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set intention for this episode.
I really feel deeply.
The moment we spoke, I feltthis urge to introduce our
audience to what you do, becauseI have a feeling there's a lot
of creatives out there that aresitting in their seats with
their screens in front of themand really contemplating how can
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they bring together theirspirituality and creative arts.
And you've done it, my friend,so I do hope to inspire a lot of
our listeners.
So welcome to the podcast.
Kellie (02:05):
Oh, my God, thank you so much and I'm so excited to be
here and this is kind of like acontinuation of a previous
dialogue that we had on apersonal level, but I think it's
so important to discuss.
You know our merging of ourcreativity and our spirituality
in what we do.
You know, I feel like you know,paths - our creativity is a
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spiritual path and there reallydoesn't have to be a separation,
but we often do that in our ownminds and our own lives.
So I really am so excited to behere and to help people
navigate and to find that that,you know, destination, that
place to bring the two worldstogether, to feel completely
whole in what they do and whothey want to be.
Yuli (02:51):
So true, so true.
So, just as we're diving in,can you just start by outlining
what is in your, from yourexperience, you saw as kind of
like someone who combined both.
What are the similar patternsthat you're seeing?
What was the "aha" moments thatyou realized?
"Oh, actually, my creative workis spiritual work, and vice
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versa.
Kellie (03:15):
I mean, there was really actually a very definitive,
pivotal moment.
You know I have been on thespiritual path my whole life.
I mean I started - I didn'teven want to tell people.
I started writing morning pagesfrom reading The Artist's Way
many years ago.
So in 1998, I started doingmorning pages and don't do the
math, it was a long time ago andyou know, that kind of that
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allowing, like she says in thebook, releasing that inner
critic and working through, likewriting, as a way to connect to
that inspirational spiritualmindset, was such a game changer
for me.
So for the longest time I didthis and it was very private, it
was on my own and I had a verystrong spiritual path of
meditating, going to workshops.
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But then, probably about maybeseven years ago, this woman
who's a channeler, who I reallyrespect and she does privates
and she does one-on-one, and shesaid to me well, you know
you're a channeler and you knowwhat you do - you receive a lot
of information and downloads andshe was the one that put the
seed in.
What you do as a photographeris the same as the intuitive
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downloads you receive as achanneler, because I always
considered myself a seer, as achanneler, like I could see
timelines.
I can you know when I receivedownloads and information, it's
not so much that I actually cansee them or hear them, it's more
a clear cognitive aspect whereit's a real deep knowing.
But I also felt myself as a seerand I often call myself a seer
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in the spiritual world.
And then it was like, "hello,I'm a photographer, of course
I'm a seer, you know.
So I mean, I think after thatfirst you know that one-on-one
with her she really put you know, even maybe deep down inside, I
always knew what I was doingwas spiritual.
At that point I no longerseparated them.
You know, it was almost like mycoming out party, you know,
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like people in my you know whatI mean?
People in my photography world,which I kept very private from
my spiritual world.
I started to merge themtogether.
Yuli (05:15):
So what was that process like?
Because I'm always curious whenpeople have that, those deep
moments of understanding,something that really shifts
their perspective and puts themin a different box, in a
different plane, right?
But you still have your oldidentity and this incredibly
successful career going, right?
Did you kind of - some peoplego back and start questioning,
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of course, and some people findways, like yourself, to
transform it and elevate thatcraft as well.
But what was that process likefor you?
Kellie (05:47):
Well, I think you know it's interesting because I come
from a creative field and so itwas kind of an easy segue for me
to you know become, you knowtaking my spiritual approach to
my photographic process.
You know, when I started, whenI started to do not so much, you
know, weddings, which I did alot of, but even weddings when I
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would get to a place or if Idid a portrait session, I would
have them have tea with me andbe in a meditative state before
we started to like have them,you know they didn't really know
what I was doing.
I was like creating and I wouldask them what their intention
was.
And I would ask them, like youknow, how are they feeling?
Like you know, I didn't everwant somebody to run into my
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studio, I'm like, "oh, I'm sorry, I'm late, I'm late and jump
into the shoot".
I wanted them to be that sense.
So I think the first thing wasthe mindset of the intention,
bringing the intention that youalways have in your spiritual
work and your path, and how thedialogue, the way you speak, the
way you move, your energy,bringing that into what I did
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for my human-ing, my human job,my human-ing aspect of my life.
So I started subtly at first bydoing stuff like that, and then
another thing too is I wasn'tafraid any longer to separate
them.
I wasn't afraid to tell peopleabout my spiritual path.
You know, I wasn't you know,when people, when I would come
into a job, they're like "oh,you're so calm, you have such an
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ease about you," and I'm likewell, you know, this is what I
do and this is part of whatbrings that creativity and that
joy to the photo world, so thephotographic world that I was
merging together".
So I think that for the longesttime, people that like,
especially my commercial clients, they didn't know about my
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meditations, that I'm achanneler, like I speak to
galactic aliens and I'm achanneler - can you believe that
?
I mean like I don't know ifthey would hire me back again.
But after a while I was likeyou know, I don't care, that's
who I am.
You know, this is a pot thatfeeds me.
That feeds me to be able to bethe best photographer I can be,
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to be able to not just like tobe able to see what my clients
needs, but also understand andput a set of intention in there.
So it was just, you know, it'severything's about energy and
you know you can't think energy,you have to always feel energy,
right?
So going from that thinkingmind to that feeling heart, like
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that kind of switchenergetically, is what I did as
I started bringing my spiritualapproach to my professional life
.
I mean, a lot of people too,it's - I think it's sometimes
easier when you're in thecreative world to be able to
slowly merge those.
But I don't think, I think youcan be whatever you do, you can
be an accountant, you know.
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You can be a banker, you canwork on Wall Street, you can -
anything that you do, you canbring that mindset, you know?
For us in the creative worlds,it's a little bit easy, I think,
because we're already usingthat intuitive left side of our
brain.
You know we're usually we'reusing, we're going back and
forth and being able to, youknow, view and see the world in
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a very kind of fluid way forcreatives, don't you agree?
Yuli (09:01):
Yeah, absolutely, and it's interesting that you mentioned
that that you know you feltnaturally to kind of start
bringing into your work because,like you write people in this
industry a little more receptive.
But I wonder if you had anystories or any examples how you
know you integrate something oryou really did something bold
(09:22):
maybe that you wouldn't darebefore, and what was the outcome
?
Kellie (09:27):
Well, one little subtle thing I did was I started, you
know, all my crystals andjewelry I would always wear now,
like, no matter what job I did,you know.
So people that that was like,people would ask me.
They would stop and like, "ohmy god, that's what is that?
And I would say, h, it's aselenite crystal," or it's this?
And and then "W hy do you wearthem?
"I'm like, "well, you know, part
of it is like, I believe there'sa consciousness of the crystals
that can help influence us,that we can, or even as a
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talisman, it's something thatyou can hold on if you're
feeling stressed.
" So that would be, like youknow, during my when I started.
I work a lot for New YorkPresbyterian Hospital and I
shoot all their high-end events.
So I started changing mywardrobe a little bit by just
adding all these pieces - that'slike a very subtle thing that I
did, you know, but like it wasan intention because I knew I
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would start a conversation withpeople that would never even be
open to that, you know, andputting a little seed into
somebody you know like "oh,consciousness of crystals?
What does that mean?
Yuli (10:24):
You know, That is amazing.
I love this kind of cocktailconversation starter.
Kellie (10:30):
Exactly, exactly, you know.
I think you know it's reallyand that's a very easy way to do
that, like I'm trying to thinkof any other way that I love
that cocktail conversation thatyou just said.
That's very interesting, but itis definitely a way to get
people to be engaged, you knowyeah, and
Yuli (10:46):
I think, Especially in the New York scene right, we both
kind of come from that scenewhen everyone is so like agenda-
driven, right?
Oh yeah, yeah, and you come inwith your crystals.
It's a different - suddenly theconversation shifts.
Kellie (11:01):
Exactly, exactly.
And because people are curious, you know, when they see
something or some or experiencesomething that they're not
especially like you said, in NewYork and working for, like the
you know, for the example, thehospitals and some of my other
big clients you know they're,they have an agenda.
They have, you know, they havethis idea that they have to
complete something, that they're, they're goal driven.
And you know, because they'reso goal driven, they often get
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caught in that looping, right?
That mental looping, you know,and all of a sudden, somebody or
something just kind of stopsthat, you know, it stops that
that narrow plasticity of abrain, you know that?
You know, like Dr.
Joe Dispenza says, you know, oh, you know, Dr.
Joe, "w fires together, wirestogether, right.
So like, yes, let's stop thatkind of looping of our mental
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thoughts and really to treatpeople, especially in any kind
of profession, out of that kindof mental prison, if you would
say, you know, that kind of, youknow, head first instead of
heart first it should be heartfirst.
Yuli (12:05):
Yes, absolutely, and you mentioned my favorite teacher,
so we have to talk about thatbecause, I mean, I feel like he
talked, I just just came backfrom a retreat I I want to hear
a lot about and it's probably Iprobably should record another
episode.
But one of the fascinatingmeditations we did is his new
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walking meditation - i t'scalled Changing Boxes.
Kellie (12:28):
Changing Boxes.
Yuli (12:29):
Yes, and he had that seated meditation version for a
long time.
It's one of his most popularones that really changes
people's neuroplasticity, likeyou said.
But the walking meditation wasreally incredible because the
way he does it, you start withyour eyes closed and then slowly
, when you open your eyes,eventually you literally you
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feel like you're in another box,you're in another dimension and
it was just such a fascinatingexperience and you know, walking
out there with 1800 peopledoing it together.
And we all open our eyes in adifferent plane.
I can definitely feel kind oflike everything you're talking
about and I also love this idea,as I'm stepping more on this
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journey to kind of not in a wayto challenge people that I
interact with, especially peoplenot from this world, but just
kind of open up their box andpotentially introduce another
box, right, well, there's otherplanes that exist, that those
rules that you live by, theyjust don't exist there.
Kellie (13:37):
Right.
Yuli (13:38):
It's so fascinating to watch, kind of like, you t's
know, know shift and get curiousand something.
Some cells change in thoseconversations for sure.
So I love that you do that.
And then you took it even stepfurther at some point and I want
to talk about that because Ithink the idea the moment I saw
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your website and I saw what youdo and then you call it soul
portraits, I was just"yes yes,yes, this is so genius because I
think a lot of us and it allcomes down and I'm sure you have
the whole science behind it,like our own perception and you
know our own external image andthe pressures that come with it,
(14:21):
and your process is kind ofcompletely different and how you
manage to combine both,eventually giving as a
photographer, giving your clientthat product that they came for
, right, that image that theydesire, but also combine that
with that internaltransformation, potentially come
(14:42):
up with something that isreally their true essence.
I think a lot of us these days,and then in the day, what we're
going through, it's thisprocess of like peeling off and
uncovering our true nature,because our true nature is
divine, right, and all thoselayers that we built on top and
we're born with well, actually,we're not always born with, but
(15:02):
you get it.
So talk about that process, howgoing okay, you know, wearing
crystals to a cocktail party isfun, but then how do you take
that and really say, okay, I'mready to transform those people?
Kellie (15:17):
Well, I think that, okay , I think what we'll do, we'll
talk about it in two ways.
First, kind of more in ageneral, like, say, I'm working
an event or a commercial job orsomething that you know is you
know, more a group setting.
Because, you know, we areliving vessels of the divine.
(15:53):
Everything that we do in thisphysical body is for the
experience of the divine to haveform, and so everything that we
do is divine, everything we dois spiritual.
We have put the box around whatis spiritual and what isn't
spiritual.
So if we first can take awaythe idea that, like I say, I'll
(16:15):
go back to the account he's aspiritual being.
You know right, he's the eventhe guy on Wall Street - deep
down, he is a spiritual being.
He is a part of God and we needto see that and reflect that.
And but we just need to havehim look and change the shape of
his box.
You know I love the box thing.
(16:35):
They just don't I'm going tohave to use it all the time.
It's great and you know, so ifI'm, I'm going to give you an
example of something that'sreally interesting.
You know, I'm shooting awedding and weddings are so
stressful, you know, you try tobe that kind of you try to like
I'm not going to say spiritualbeing, because we are.
I just said we are spiritualbeings.
That is our innate nature.
(16:55):
But we get clouded with our ownexpectations of what we think
define us right and thepressures of, like, a wedding
photography, a weddingphotography.
I'm shooting somebody's wedding.
There's a lot of expectation,there's a lot of things that I
need to create for these peopleto capture those moments.
So we're late running to thischurch and we were doing all the
(17:18):
family pictures first.
And we all come running intothe church and it's this big, I
don't know Episcopalian, I think, a Methodist church in New York
City with a lot of rules and alot of regulations.
So we're all running in and thewoman that was in charge of, I
guess, the church, she comes upto me and she starts yelling at
(17:39):
me and she starts in my facesaying "you're late, you can't
come here, you can't do that,you know, and like, just like,
like literally in my face, andI'm like, oh wow.
So I'm like, okay, is spiritualKellie going to be here, or is
Kellie from Worcester going tocome here?
But you know so, so I had tolike.
(18:00):
So I really had to like, andit's a daily practice in
everything you do, because we dohave one foot in one world and
one foot in another world.
Often, right, that's our liferight now, that's being human.
We have to experience that.
So I took a deep breath and,you know, instead of reacting
and being triggered like howdare, how dare you?
(18:21):
You know, don't?
You know who I am?
You know, and I'm trying tohear, I'm here for the branding
group.
I'm trying to help, I'm tryingto make their you know, this
experience great for them, so wecan capture beautiful imagery
but not stress them out.
So I had to take a deep, deepbreath and I'm thinking I'm
going to shift her.
You know, I don't know if youknow what this is.
I'm going to shift her.
(18:43):
So, instead of reacting, Iclosed my eyes and I said to
myself I want I don't even knowwhat the woman's name was.
I would like to speak to thiswoman's higher self.
I would like to be able toconnect to something that is not
in this physical incarnation,within this box of what she
feels between us.
(19:05):
I would like it to go away.
I would like her to understandthat we both want the same
things, that we want this brideand groom to have the best
experience of their life.
You know, we're just comingfrom it from different points,
and so I just closed my eyes andthen the wedding started.
It was a long hour mass.
You know we're just coming fromit from different points, and
so I just closed my eyes andthen the wedding started.
(19:25):
It was a long hour mass andthen, during the middle of the
ceremony, she comes up to me.
She's like hey, she's like, ifyou want to move closer, go
ahead, it's okay.
I'm like, oh, really.
And then she's like yeah, yeah,don't worry about it, don't
worry about it.
And then later on, she's likeyou know what, when you're
walking backwards and takingpictures, I'm going to stay
behind you so you don't fall.
Yuli (19:43):
That is incredible.
Okay, I love this story so much.
I know, yes, that's the shift.
Kellie (19:52):
So I think you know, okay, you've got the cocktail
conversation with the crystals,and then you have your own
ability to shift by going intoyour heart and trying to connect
to the person's higher self,the person's, that, something
that's not tethered to their egoand their physicality, right,
and I mean I just say thatbecause that I mean I've tried
(20:14):
that with other people and allthat, but that was the most
profound experience I've everhad in my life in regards to
that.
You know, it was just oh, I gotbubble thumb up, thumbs up,
bubble.
Yuli (20:25):
It literally just happened .
I didn't press anything, I wasjust sitting here and my
computer did that for you.
I think there is some.
Maybe my higher self justthumbed you up, I don't know.
Yeah, that was our listenerscan see it.
But it was kind of a a littlebit surreal experience where my
computer just popped.
Kellie (20:46):
And at the perfect timing, because, I said, my most
profound experience thumbs up.
So it really was.
So if you know, often you knowand again you know, we're so
human and you know we're alwaysgoing to be triggered.
I always say that healing iswhen you realize you're
triggered, right, and the amountof time that that awareness
(21:08):
happens and then the amount oftime where you can let it go.
When that time becomes shorterand shorter, well, maybe it's
only like 30 seconds, you'relike, oh, triggered, okay, I'm
going to come into here, alwayscoming into the heart.
So I think when I had thatexperience with that woman at
(21:29):
that church during a big weddingin New York City, I realized
that my spiritual path could besimply always being present
within my highest self, withinthat heart-centered flame, no
matter where I go and what I doas a career.
Like that's a simple thing todo for anybody to start Like,
play around with that.
You know, see how you feel,everything's about how you feel.
(21:50):
I mean I can't really emphasizehow much it is to be in that
heart space.
Yuli (21:56):
And then you know, it's just.
I just want to take a pause onthat because it's first of all,
such a beautiful story and alsoreally amazing lesson, and
really I think if anyone cantake like one takeaway from this
conversation is you know, yourtitle doesn't need to be a
spiritual healer to do the workwe need to do.
Kellie (22:23):
It's exactly.
I think it's either it's likethat phrase an urban monk.
You know it's like, you know,be on the mountain and have that
committed spiritual life whichis so important, but be in the
trenches, you know, be in it.
Yuli (22:33):
Be a wedding photographer in new york city?
Kellie (22:36):
yeah, exactly yeah, exactly where you're dealing
with a lot of personalities anda lot.
So you know, I'm so.
I really like use that as thegold standard of when I'm, you
know, being triggered.
You know, when I work for NewYork Presbyterian Hospital.
I love all of them, but it's avery high stress environment
with the people that areorganizing everything.
(22:56):
So I literally, on the way downto the job, will start feeling
this stress in my stomach.
I'll be going, oh, oh no, oh no, I can feel the anxiety.
I can feel that because I thinkthe more you do it, it's like a
muscle right, it becomesstronger, because it becomes
more intuitive.
So as soon as I get in there, Itake a deep breath and then I
(23:18):
go up to everybody and I lookthem in the eyes.
I'm like, how's it going?
And like I talked to him inthat kind of meditative voice a
little bit.
You know a lot of pauses inbetween the words, you know
lowing the octave and and theymight even for a second just
stop, but it's that interruption.
Yuli (23:37):
I love those little interventions that and I wish I
had you, because I used to runthose 500 people events in the
city in my previous chapter, andyou know it's funny because I
used to get so stressed and itdoesn't matter how much you know
, I would relax or meditatebefore or whatever I try to do.
(23:57):
You just get into that likestress ball zone that you're
discovering.
I wish, first of all, that Ihad you by my side to intervene,
but in a way, you know, Istarted looking at it as, like
this is my exercise to cut, tocontinue.
I'm going to continue doingthose events until the point
that I can completely relax andcompletely surrender to the
(24:21):
experience and know thateverything is just going to go
just as it's planned, just likeas it's supposed to be, and I do
not need to sacrifice my ownyou know well-being around peace
to achieve that.
So you know, speaking of which,I'm in the midst of organizing
another big event with, I know,as you know.
(24:42):
So I really look at it like I'mactually looking forward to
that as an opportunity to putmyself in a new box.
Yeah and see, can I do thatwithout having all that stress
and all those feelings?
So thanks for reminding that,because I can still relate to
that we know it's a practice.
Kellie (25:01):
That's a practice.
It's a spiritual practice.
Just what you did being like.
You know if people, even in thecorporate world, if they could
get some instruction or somekind of guidance to know that
they're going to be stressed,they have a lot of pressure on
their hand, but it but it's anexercise of how you can come
from a space of honoringyourself, because that stress is
(25:22):
not good for you.
It's going to wreak havoc toyour body and then just the
energy that you put out it'slike a ripple.
It's going to create anxietyand stress.
And it's also an exercise onfaith and trust.
Especially, you could plan thebest event.
Everything would be perfect,but something can happen.
That it's it's.
(25:43):
And you have to understand thatto be in the flow of the divine
is to be in a place of noexpectations and no agenda.
Such a hard thing to put thatinto practice when you're in the
corporate America.
Right, because that's allcorporate America is all about
right America.
Right, because that's allcorporate America is all about
right.
So you know, I said, wouldn'tit be amazing if, like CEOs,
(26:05):
comes up to you and say, is to ameeting, I have no agenda, I
have no expectations of you.
I just want you to do the bestthat you can.
That's all I want from you.
Wouldn't that be an amazing waythat you can shift an energy
and a whole corporation office?
And then you know, because Ijust I've always seen a little
bit different.
When I was in college, I, youknow, worked for a corporate
(26:26):
owned restaurant and they hadall these rules that I thought
were not beneficial or good andI'm like, well, I'm not going to
do that.
That doesn't make no sense tome and literally I was fired the
next day.
So so you know, keep thinkingoutside the box, keep being a
seer and stay true to yourselfand understand that.
I mean, that's the way you cantake whatever profession you are
(26:48):
and make it your spiritualpractice.
Okay, if you want to completelyand I don't, you know, and too,
like a lot of people think thatyou know I want to stop being an
accountant I'm sorry I keeptalking about accountants, but
it comes to my mind and orwhatever you're doing for a nine
to five, and completely go intothe healing arts.
You know that's a big jump offaith and you can, like I said,
(27:14):
you always have that spiritualpractice, so you don't have to
think all or nothing, one or theother.
You know you can do a blenduntil you feel comfortable, to
the right opportunities come toyou, because I think you know
the biggest problem we can havein the world is that spiritual
egotism.
You know that is yes, yes,absolutely.
You know I just was writingabout that before we had this
(27:37):
call.
And you know, it's often likeego finds its way, really, and
I'm not going to give ego acompletely bad rap because I
respect that ego has kept yousafe, kept us safe when we were
younger.
But it's an untethered ego thatyou need to watch out and a
spiritual egotism is like whatis my, what is my mission on
(28:00):
earth?
Right?
You know it's like that energybehind it.
You know your mission on earthis be a flow of divine.
Whatever you do, every step youtake is divine, is spiritual.
You know, if you find thatyou're a Reiki healer or you
have these other gifts, you're achanneler and you want to
expand in them.
That's beautiful, but wait forthe flow of the divine to show
(28:22):
you the way.
You know it's that trusting inthat divine feminine energy.
Yuli (28:26):
You know that's an amazing advice and, first of all, two
things I wanted to point out isone like the idea of, yes,
spiritual superiority, you know,and the whole division between
the spiritual, non-spiritualworld.
I completely agree with you.
It's all made up labels, justthe same labels that we use, you
(28:48):
know, in the 3D world.
But I also, you know, just toinspire some accountants among
our listeners, like I know somany amazing people in the
finance and accounting industrythat are moving to work with,
whether it's consciousbusinesses or holistic clients,
and they love that because theyfind that fulfillment of keeping
(29:11):
their trade and the professionand the skills that they've
gained over the years and, youknow, just finding clients that
are more aligned with theircurrent state.
That is maybe a little moreawakened.
So I think there's a lot ofroom and I'm always excited when
I meet those people fromindustries that are supposed to
be opposite of what we do, right, but they have that side.
(29:37):
It's just such a refreshing itis.
And we need more people.
We need more people on WallStreet who understand healing
arts.
Kellie (29:44):
Oh, yeah, let's not even go about politics, that's
nothing.
But yes, it's so true and it'slike you know it's also you have
to think about.
It's all about.
You know they talk about twinflames, right, what is a twin
flame?
And really it is having thatfeminine.
I think we are all our truetwin flame.
(30:05):
To try to find a twin flameoutside of yourself, I think,
has been hijacked a bit.
I think the real, true conceptof that is having the
relationship, the marriagewithin of yourself of the divine
feminine aspect and the divinemasculine.
So having somebody that canhelp you with your website, with
your accounting, with all that,that has those skills and you
(30:25):
have such strong intuitiveskills and you come together,
that's a divine union.
Divine union doesn't have to besexual, doesn't have to be
physical right?
Divine union is coming togetherto create the best divine union
is coming together to createthe best possible expansion for
both people.
Yuli (30:44):
Love this so much.
Another deep pause and deepbreath and just you know
enjoying this, this metaphor, somuch.
And speaking of divine union,let's finally talk about your
soul portraits.
Kellie (30:57):
Yes, so so after I had that conversation with the woman
that was a channeler who toldme about that, I really sat down
and said "how can I reallymerge my love of photography and
my love of photographing peopleand my abilities to channel and
to connect and to see beyondkind of this three-dimensional
(31:18):
world, right?
So I started to play aroundwith the idea of soul portraits
and what that would look like,and on the last few retreats
I've had, I've actuallyincorporated the soul portraits
at the end of the retreat andit's interesting what I really
have come to understand and Iactually have found a beautiful
(31:40):
way of combining them.
And what I do is we usually doan oracle.
Usually I tell the person whosigns up for a soul portrait do
not have an agenda, do not havean expectation, do not think
that you're going to use thisfor your LinkedIn headshot.
You know, because this is notthat.
You come here because you wantto see your true divine state.
(32:01):
You want to have.
You know, it's almost like I'mwitnessing the unfolding of you
beneath the skin in a way.
So we have usually I will tuneinto the person.
I will get like a message of aplace or a meditation.
I remote.
When I do my guided meditationsit's really remote viewing.
I can remote view, if you knowwhat that is.
(32:23):
It's an ability to see, likesee other timelines, other
dimensions, be able to go there.
So that's how I do my guidedmeditations.
I will like remote view andtake them on a journey with me
of what I see.
So that's kind of what I'vebeen doing with the soul
portraits.
So if you sit down with me I'llget an idea, say, for instance,
the last one.
I okay, there's two I just didrecently that were pretty
(32:44):
amazing.
This, this one gentleman.
I just know him prior so I knowhe has very elven energy, very
Merlin energy, even in hisappearance.
Right now he's a healer.
So I knew where I was going totake him when he pulled.
But he pulled the card.
So I have people pull a cardfirst, an Oracle card, and that
(33:06):
usually will give meconfirmation where I want to go.
So with him he of course gotthe Elven Council as his card.
So I'm like, okay, let's gothere.
So we did.
I took him to the journey tolike the Crystal City of Light,
whatever I saw.
I took him to this where wecame together and it's a short
meditation 20 minutes and wejust sat there and he received
(33:27):
information and he actuallystarted speaking light language.
That's something he's beenworking trying to achieve.
And then when he's after themeditation and we came back he,
I took his, his photos.
You know, at first I I'velearned now, after doing for a
couple years, that I wait tillthey come out of meditation for
(33:48):
us before I start shooting,because most people like like a
totally out, you know, like themouth some hanging and their
heads to the side.
You know they look like they'vebeen in a deep sleep for about
an hour.
So I wait they come out to acertain point and then I start
photographing them and I kind ofjust, you know, I just give you
know lead them a little bitwith.
You know, I usually put them ina place where I can get some
(34:10):
beautiful light on them.
And just, you know, anotherperson, this guy, Scott, who's a
chiropractor like I, I had I,he pulled the owl card, so I
knew I was going to take him toa place where you could have
that freedom with his wings,like that's what I felt he
needed.
I felt like he was very stuckso, and so afterwards I took
(34:31):
these beautiful shots with hishands and black and white, and
it was so beautiful, so later onthey would have that photograph
.
I usually give them a wholeseries of photographs as kind of
a talisman, like arepresentation of.
So I always say print it, putit on your altar, have it as a
(34:52):
reminder of the story.
So most of the story you know,so most of the meditations,
would be something thatsomebody's working through.
Or maybe you know one woman Itook to Lemuria and I actually
gave her and Scott a name.
They received a name from that.
I channeled for them so theycan use the name for themselves
or write it down or, like Iusually will write their name on
(35:13):
the photograph that comes to it.
And and that's the soulportraits.
Yuli (35:18):
Wow, that is incredible.
As you were talking, I'm like Ihave to have one, I have to have
this session with you.
It just sounds so special and Ilove the idea that you're
capturing that moment, because Ithink a lot of us have this
beautiful moments in meditationand then you kind of come out of
it and it's gone.
I mean, you can journal and youcan try to kind of write it,
(35:40):
but just to capture that I thinkit's just a beautiful gift.
Kellie (35:44):
Yes, it really is, and it is.
That's why, like, thephotograph can be so powerful,
you know, because it can takeyou back to that memory, it can
take you back to yourremembering, you know.
You know, I think that, youknow, journaling is so important
.
I'm a big journaler and, youknow, I think that combination
of coming out of meditations andthat, and then also too, when
(36:06):
everything's done, we will putsome music on and do a little
dancing just to get the energymoving, you know.
So that's kind of been thesequence of how I fine-tuned the
soul portraits, because itdefinitely has been kind of a
work.
You know, I'm working out thelogistics of how to combine the
two because, you know, usuallymy healing arts is group
(36:28):
meditations where we go, and youknow, I just did, like I said,
I just finished a series wherewe did the chakras with the
inner dimensions of the earth,like.
So each chakra was represented,like the first dimension was a
root chakra, the seconddimension was a sacral, so I
just finished a whole series ofthat.
But that's very much groupsetting, you know.
So for me to make thatexperience into a one-on-one and
(36:52):
then combine it with a portraitsession was, you know, a work
in progress but I think, prettymuch fine-tuned it and I'm very
excited about what I've beendoing lately.
Yuli (37:02):
So this is a very special thing that you're doing and I
hope you know more people getyour experience that, because
all of us deserve a soulportrait.
I think there's way too manyheadshots and now, with AI
headshots that I can't.
Kellie (37:18):
I see them, I go.
That's the end of our careers,oh, ends of our professions,
right there.
Yuli (37:24):
No, I think this is the beginning of the the boom of the
soul portrait.
Kellie (37:28):
It's the beginning of the soul portraits.
Yuli (37:30):
Yes, because AI will never be able to do what you do.
I had absolutely no doubt inthat.
Kellie (37:45):
Yeah, no, I'm, you know, I'm so thrilled that my journey
has led me here, you know,because I love doing soul
portraits, like you know.
If I can just, you know, movingforward, if I can be blessed
enough to be able to do the soulportraits, do my guided
meditations and retreats, Iwould have a blessed life.
I spent years, I've been aphotographer since I was 18.
So I spent years in thetrenches doing lots of work I
can't even tell you how many 600weddings, maybe?
(38:06):
Lots of weddings and a lot ofcommercial work, fashion work.
I was shot a lot in the fashionindustry and that's a whole
different set of issues and andpersonalities, as you say.
But even even when I stillshoot fashion now, like I come
in with, I'm going to shiftpeople.
I'm going to take this, makethis an elevated experience, you
(38:30):
know, because that's what wecan do as healers, you know.
Yuli (38:35):
Amazing.
I love what you do and I justlove the idea of having you in
those industries still andshifting people and elevating
wherever you go.
So it's just truly inspiringand I know a lot of our
listeners are listening to youcould relate to a lot of those
stories and maybe open some ofthe horizons and introduce some
(38:59):
new boxes that they can try.
So, as we coming up to the end,I can't believe it.
Can you do have any last wordsof wisdom for our listeners?
Kellie (39:29):
I think that the biggest thing that prevents people from
expanding and moving outsidetheir box that they feel very
comfortable in is fear.
Right?
Was that false evidenceappearing true?
I think that's what they callfear, something like you know.
Try to start some kind ofmeditative practice if they feel
like they can't meditate.
Just focus on the breath 10minutes of just focusing on your
breath, walking out in natureand removing, you know, any kind
of self-created obstacles thatthey might find.
(39:52):
Remove that fear, you know, andtake baby steps.
You know, take baby stepsBecause baby steps builds that
kind of synchronicity, nerve ormuscle, like you know.
You start to havesynchronicities, you start to
think you become a manifester,you know, because you start
doing those baby steps and say Isee myself doing this, I see my
(40:16):
future as this, but I am notgoing to put an expectation or
an agenda, I'm just going to bein a state of gratitude.
This is Dr.
Joe, very much right.
"Be in a state of gratitude andallow it to come to you.
Right, Allow whatever thefuture is to come to you for
your best expression of yourdivinity, because when we move
(40:40):
forward and try to grab ontosomething, that's very masculine
and it's also like saying thatwe don't have it now.
It's that lack of mentality andwe're not going to receive it
because we feel like we don'thave it and we're grabbing onto
it.
But if we just can sit in astate of openness and, believe
me, I'm triple 20, as they say,I'm 60.
So it's taken me a long time toget to this point and, believe
(41:04):
me, I have days where I'm threesteps back, but then I just jump
forward and go as far as I canand just be kind to yourself.
I can and just, you know.
Be kind to yourself, don'tjudge yourself.
You know we're all on this ridebeing human together.
So that's just what I have.
Yuli (41:21):
Absolutely Well.
I have lots of gratitude forguests like yourself who really
inspire our listeners, inspireme, who show different paths
that you can take and still besuccessful by the normal terms
just right call them right, butjust create incredible impact
(41:47):
and heal wherever you go,elevate, raise vibrations
wherever you go.
So I'm grateful for humans likeyourself who walk on this
planet, especially in New YorkCity.
We need you.
Please continue to do what youdo.
Kellie (42:04):
Thank you so much, and thank you for inviting me to be
on this.
I'm so excited that we met andI'm excited to see what our
future is for us and thebeautiful things you're going to
be doing and yeah, so, thankyou so much.
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Introducing… Aubrey O’Day Diddy’s former protege, television personality, platinum selling music artist, Danity Kane alum Aubrey O’Day joins veteran journalists Amy Robach and TJ Holmes to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. Join them throughout the trial as they discuss, debate, and dissect every detail, every aspect of the proceedings. Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise, as only she is qualified to do given her first-hand knowledge. From her days on Making the Band, as she emerged as the breakout star, the truth of the situation would be the opposite of the glitz and glamour. Listen throughout every minute of the trial, for this exclusive coverage. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes present Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial, an iHeartRadio podcast.
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