August 28, 2024 • 45 mins
Today we are joined by Erika Polsinelli, the founder and creator of Evolve by Erika to talk about her inspiring journey as a healer. She stumbled upon Kundalini breath work five years ago while dealing with personal anxiety, paranoia and panic attacks and that changed everything for her. Now, she teaches breathwork, meditation, kundalini on her very own platform and community, hosts her podcasts and retreats and built an incredible following.
In this episode, we discuss the challenges of navigating various energies and the importance of setting boundaries. Erika's approach to integrating bite-sized meditations into a busy lifestyle is both practical and profound, demonstrating that even a few minutes of daily practice can lead to significant spiritual growth. Don't miss Erika’s invitation to connect further through her extensive library of meditation videos and live classes.
Our listeners are invited to enjoy a free month of Evolve via this invite link.
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Yuli (00:04):
Welcome to the Heallist Podcast, where we inspire and
guide healers through businessexpansion.
We give voice to incrediblyabundant healers to share their
stories.
We dive into the quantum fieldto unlock the energies of
conscious creation.
We also develop digital toolsto help you grow, which you can
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find on heallist.
com.
I'm your host, Yuli, and I'mgrateful you chose to join this
space.
Now let's go deep.
Hello, my dear friends, anotheramazing guest.
Today on the Heallist Podcast,we're joined by Erika Polsinelli
, the founder and creator ofEvolved by Erika to talk about
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her inspiring journey as ahealer.
She stumbled upon Kundalinibreathwork five years ago while
dealing with personal anxiety,paranoia and panic attacks, and
that changed everything for her.
Now she teaches breathwork,meditation, kundalini on her
very own platform and community,hosts her podcasts and
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retreats, and built anincredible following who breathe
with her daily.
Erika, welcome to the podcast.
As you know, I like to setintention for each episode, and
for this one, I'm just sograteful to have you with us.
I've been following you and youjust built such an inspiring
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presence around you, which issomething that's hard to do on
those digital platforms whenthat's our only way to connect,
and I just admire that whenpeople are able to do that, but
do it also like, authenticallyand be very genuine about it.
So I'm just grateful to haveyou here and share some of your
wisdom with our listeners and Ihope to inspire them with the
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same.
Erika (01:58):
Thank you for having me.
I'm so excited to be here.
When I heard about thecommunity that you lead and the
podcast you have, it was ano-brainer, it was a full-body
yes that I would love to comeand speak to you in your
community.
Yuli (02:12):
Oh, I love that.
First of all, I love whenpeople make decisions with
somatic feelings.
Erika (02:19):
Yeah, it's essential.
Our intuition is very strong.
Yuli (02:24):
Right, but when it all all connects, it's just such a
beautiful tool and I've beendiving deeper into that too and
it's just like amazing how ithelps us just like navigate and
life and business it is so true.
Erika (02:38):
It is so true and honestly, I would say that's my
guiding force.
This is like the spoiler alertof all the conversation we're
going to have today, but it'slike that.
Being able to tap into thatknowing within has guided me on
my entire journey, so it'sdefinitely essential, especially
in the times that we're livingin.
Yuli (02:58):
Well, I love your spoiler alert because, first of all, all
of my listeners know I lovenon-linear podcasts, that that's
kind of my jam and just kind ofuh, giving people, um, some
tools of empowerment right fromthe beginning.
But I don't want to skip onyour journey.
But since we already got kindof to the end and you know I had
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so many questions for you andI'm just fascinated by
everything you've built and youknow it's such a short time as
well, right, because we'retalking about just five years of
discovering this for the firsttime and it looks like you have
just been doing it your wholelife, right?
So I love, besides all thequestions that I want to ask you
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about your journey, to justkind of start with the business
aspects, and this is what Ithink really is missing often in
this holistic space.
There's so much informationtoday, thank God, about wellness
and, you know, mindset and anykind of topics of our different
modalities, but I feel likewhat's missing and this is what
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we're trying to fill with theHeal Us podcast missing and this
is what we're trying to fillheal with with the healers
podcast is more like practicaltools and more like tactical
information.
Okay, I have all these bigdreams.
I envision myself with thisplatform and community.
How do I get there?
How, what are the practicalsteps that maybe people are
sitting here and listening to ustoday and just inspired by
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everything you've built, what iskind of give us a shortcut,
okay, how do you go fromdiscovering these powerful tools
for yourself to building thisempire and community?
Erika (04:35):
Well, I'm a dreamer, I'm an air sign, I have a lot of air
in my chart, so I love livingin that dream state of ideas and
getting downloads from theuniverse.
I'm an ideas person.
They just come through.
I have a very clear channel toDivine.
But the most important aspectof receiving the idea of what it
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is you're meant to do or carryout is actually take action.
And sometimes we could getstuck in that idea space.
But if we're not actuallybringing some into fruition,
we'll notice the ideas slowlystart to stop because we're
filled with all these ideas andit's like okay, well, we have to
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give birth to some of them andmove that energy and then be
open to the next step or thenext inspiring thought or idea.
So for me, I personally workfrom a very intuitively guided
space.
I know when I receive a divinedownload or thought or message,
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and my entire business came as atremendous download while I was
in my Kundalini training.
It was day two of my training.
I had no intention actually ofbecoming a Kundalini teacher.
I went to the training becauseit rocked my world.
The practice changed my lifedramatically.
I suffered with panic attacks,anxiety.
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I was just living a verydisempowered life and the
practice completely helped me doa 180.
And I was like this is wild.
I need to actually understandwhat I'm doing, because I'm a
geek like that, like I love tounderstand what actually is
happening through the breath,work and the mantras and the
practice.
So I went to training day two.
I received the download of whatI was meant to do and then it
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was like okay, it's action time.
Like I have this idea and Ineed to put wheels in motion and
I think how do we do it?
We see other people that do itand we use that as inspiration.
We rely on our resources.
We go to people who maybe havebuilt the website or built the
subscription or the membership,and we see how they've done it,
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how it's been successful or evenlike ways we've seen it but we
think it could be better andcreating it authentically from
our soul, our heart, our mindand our intuition.
And it's about for me, it wasalways about taking small baby
steps that I felt really safe in.
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So I was an elementary schoolteacher at the time and I knew,
first of all, I knew I wasn'tgoing to be a teacher my whole
life and I knew that I was meantto empower people.
I had no idea how until I foundKundalini and started to train,
but I also knew that I had totake action in creating this new
pathway for myself, for me tobe my own boss, to start my own
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empire, to be able to share thisgift.
I uncovered within me, thisdivine gift that was so much
greater than the human Erika.
It was this energy that ranthrough me that I was like whoa,
I just want to share thisbecause I think it could help so
many other people.
So from there, while I wasteaching, I started to build an
online platform, and it was likea login on a WordPress website
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and then, slowly, from there, Iwould add content every month
and then from there, I graduatedto an app.
And it's just been oneintuitively guided movement in
the direction of what felt rightto me, what felt aligned to me,
one step in that direction at atime.
And it's never for me, it'snever about like what's a good
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business move, or and that'sfine, if people have those hits
too, that's wonderful, but forme it's always been a super
intuitive journey, a verydivinely led journey, where I
receive these messages and I getthese visions and then I act
from that space.
Yuli (08:33):
That's incredible and thank you for sharing that.
I love this idea of you knowtaking the small actions and not
letting the ideas to kind oflike stew for too long.
And you mentioned somethingvery interesting.
The way you talked about it Ifound very refreshing, because
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you said I wanted to be my ownboss and I wanted to build my
empire.
To be honest, I don't hear alot of healers say that, because
it's often like perceived inthis community as something that
is maybe not appropriate.
Right, because the counterargument to right to the space,
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to see people that are confidentenough to kind of claim their
space and say, yes, I am, I havethis divine guidance.
But the divine guidance alsotells me I need to have an
empire in order to impact asmany people as I can.
So can you talk about that?
Was that a problem?
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Was it natural to you, or wasthat a process that you had to
overcome in your spiritualjourney?
Erika (09:53):
I always knew that I wanted to create something and
it was all based on empoweringother people.
And I realized that probably inmy early 20s, and a lot of it
came from just like myupbringing and how I wanted to
support my family, whether it beemotionally, spiritually,
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financially, whatever it may be.
And I think around college Irealized like, oh wow, people
can have their own business,they can use their creativity to
create a job for themselves andI can do this and actually
support people in a way that'sso passionate to me, where I can
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really help people empowerthemselves through this practice
and change their own life.
So I think I mean the otheraspect of this was my life and
what I do for work now is one.
Everything I share on socialmedia.
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That is like truly me and myauthentic life.
Meditation is part of myeveryday life.
So it made sense like, whycan't my career be what I do in
my life and why can't I actuallybe able to sustain and make
money and support myself, myfamily, through this, while
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impacting so many other people?
And it's like if I'm able to dothat, I wouldn't have any
energy splits.
I wouldn't be like, okay, let'sput on the teacher suit and go,
be an elementary school teacherand act like the elementary
school teacher and then comehome and be the spiritual
teacher that I am and speak thespiritual language, all the
conversations we like to have,like.
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I started to feel like my lifewas a little split and I just
wanted that embodiment ofoneness and be able to channel
all of my energy into sharing apractice with people.
And it's so funny because Inever used the word empire, but
you used it and then I wasguided to and I'm so humbled by
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you even describing it as that.
But it's really just about Ifeel like me spending time in
meditation, connecting to Divine, seeing how I can best support
others in finding their highestself within them.
And I really don't take creditfor it, because the energy that
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we create during the practice,it lives within each and every
one of us and it's just like howcan we access it?
And there's so many differentmodalities and the way I teach
is one of them, and some peopleare, you know they're meant to
find this practice, they'remeant to tap in and they're
meant to find their path throughthis, just as I was.
So I think in our world we'vebeen brainwashed or programmed
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about how a leader or CEO orwhatever should be and how a
spiritual person should be, andhow spiritual people shouldn't
have money and they shouldn'thave nice things because they're
giving.
But can't we recreate that?
And how amazing would it be forpeople who are so conscious and
spiritually connected to have alot of resources, because we
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can reach more people, we canhelp more people, we could do
amazing things with theresources and the financial
abundance that we have when westay connected to that really
intentional and conscious space.
So I think I know we're livingthrough a huge paradigm shift
right now and there's a lot ofshifts we're making, and I think
what you're bringing up isabsolutely one of them.
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It's a big shift.
We're going to start seeingthat acceptance of spiritual
people, making money in a veryin a conscious way, in a way of
integrity, from a place of loveand expansion, and then
hopefully inspiring so manyother people to take the leap
and seeing you don't have tostay in a job that you feel so
disconnected to.
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You can actually go ahead, useyour gifts to make a living for
yourself while impacting so manyother people.
Yuli (14:02):
Erika, you speak my soul language.
Seriously, I couldn't have saidit better myself.
And this is exactly what we'retrying to create.
My mission is to bring, yes, toestablish the holistic healing
and make it more acceptable andwork through some of those
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stereotypes and challenges, butit's also to bring abundance to
this space, because I reallythink money is power, and right
now the power is in the handsthat are not necessarily
conscious or have the bestintentions for everyone.
And I completely agree with you.
Sometimes I just, you know, goand wonder in my dreams like
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what if most of the resourceswere controlled by people but as
conscious community?
Like how would that world looklike?
And what if you know, it wasn'ta shame to build a spiritual
business and we would celebratepeople that create abundance in
the space?
How would that look like?
And so that excites me a lotbecause, just like having people
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like yourself who understandthe energies behind the energies
that power this world and givethem more access to the
financial systems and the wealthin this world, is just so
empowering.
So thank you for sharing thismessage because I feel like,
coming from you, it just has,like it has more power because
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you're somebody who is on thatside right, and somebody who has
a strong healing side as well.
But you're also verycomfortable talking about
creation of wealth, which is, atthe end of the day, just
creation.
Right, it's all creation.
Whether you're creating moneyor I don't know, building a
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retreat center or creatinghealth for people, it's all part
of our creation process.
So thank you for sharing thatmessage of our creation process.
So thank you for sharing thatmessage, of course, and you said
a couple of things that Iwanted to double click on.
So earlier you mentioned yoursocial media presence.
That is part of who you are.
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It's so authentic and it is andit's really.
I mean, it's beautifully done,it feels genuine, it's very
relatable, you feel veryconnected to your audience.
And was that just kind ofnatural?
Because I know there's peoplethat are kind of come to that
place and they're naturally kindof fitting the format and the
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medium.
But I think a majority ofpeople don't have that comfort
with social media channels, withputting themselves out there
without talking on camera, andsome people it takes them years
to get to that place when theyfeel authentic, even though they
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feel authentic inside, but itdoesn't always translate to the
medium.
So can you talk about yourprocess there.
Was it a process to find theright format that was authentic
and comfortable to you, or wasit just kind of like came about
naturally?
Erika (17:15):
When I discovered the practice, yes, I wanted to do
anything I could to share itwith people because of how it
impacted me so greatly.
It truly healed me and I was soexcited about it maybe super
naive too, in the sense of like,oh my gosh, I found something
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that is just so transformative.
I transformed so much throughthis.
I just want to share it.
And something my husband wouldsay often is he recognized early
on like you really don't carehow you come off to people, you
just want to share from here.
You're never focused on whatpeople will think of you.
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If you have a message, you'regoing to share it, and I think
that's part of the recipe ofsuccess and what's helped me a
lot is just truly sharing from areally pure and authentic place
, and I never got down on like,oh, I don't really look great in
this video or stopping maybesomeone else's perspective of me
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, especially early on.
I think I had like naivete onmy side when I was starting,
because I was just like, yes, Iwant to share this.
And as I grew a bit moresensitive to energy because
that's what a lot of thesepractices will do I'm more aware
of energy and sharing and howmuch to share and what to share
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and all of those things.
But for the most part I think Ihave my Leo rising to thank for
being really comfortable oncamera and just like when I put
on the phone, I just feel likeI'm talking to like best soul
friends, because I feel likeeveryone that's been guided to
my page is for a reason, andit's a frequency thing, where
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we're connected by thisfrequency that we share together
in a sense, and I just feellike I'm connecting with people
who want to be here, who want tohear what I have to say.
So I just share it.
And there's been days, some days, where I'm like I feel like
this very deep spiritual beingand teacher and then, like
sometimes I'm talking about likeproducts that work for me.
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I'm like, does that align?
And the truth is like I'm amulti-dimensional being, I am
super spiritual, I'm havingthese supernatural experiences
in my meditation and then I workout and need dry shampoo for my
hair because, like, that's justhow it is and, yeah, I want to
share it all.
That's just how I came toreally feel comfortable with
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sharing all different parts ofme and my life and my
relationship with my husband andmy family and I think it's just
fun to share it all and I thinkthat is part of it that makes
relatable, because I couldeasily portray myself as the
meditation teacher who is justmeditating and you're not seeing
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much more of her life, or she'snot going out and enjoying the
things that many of us areenjoying.
I could portray myself as that,but I just feel like an inside
look into the whole picture andthis shift into how we're all
accessing thatmultidimensionality and, yeah, I
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just feel like it's fun.
Yuli (20:30):
It just makes life fun and it makes sharing fun to see all
the different parts, wow that'sbeautiful and it's amazing that
you're able to show all thosedifferent parts and talk about
it with such confidence.
But you know you mentioned thedifferent energies and being
aware of them right.
So I think this is one of theconcerns that comes up a lot
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with people that are intuitiveand you know their impacts right
.
They're easily impacted bythose group energies, especially
on social media impacted bythose group energies, especially
on social media.
What are your kind of tools tooutside of?
You know, of course, meditatingand making sure you're in that
centered space.
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Do you have any kind ofboundaries in that sense?
And if you feel like ever thoseboundaries are crossed or
something that affects you, howdo you deal with that?
Erika (21:26):
Well, I don't know if you're familiar with human
design, are you Sure?
So I'm a mental projector andas a mental projector I always
say it's kind of like you cansee things sometimes before the
collective can see andunderstand things.
And it's not.
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I'm not trying to toot my ownhorn at all, but it's kind of
like this you just are able tosee past what is actually in the
3D realm and there's, you know,there's a lot of things that
come up for me that, like Iwould like to share.
But I also have to create aboundary with myself that not
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everything needs to be sharedand not everyone is ready to
hear certain things on thisspiritual journey.
And that's a place I definitelyhave boundaries, because I'm a
Libra.
I want to keep the peace, forsure, and social media is just.
It's a broadcast where eachaccount is broadcasting their
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opinion or their belief or theirperspective.
And as someone who meditates alot and can hold space for all
perspectives, whether it alignswith mine or not, I want to see
the collective get more intothat space too.
I think we're all workingtowards that.
But as a Libra, it could be hardfor me to share something that
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I'm really passionate oropinionated about, because I'm
so aware of themulti-perspectives that exist
and I have respect for themulti-perspectives.
So I think that's a place Ireally have strong boundaries.
And I also think that I knowlike if I share something and it
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doesn't feel right in my body,sometimes I'll feel the energy
of people receiving it and I'lljust delete it right away and be
like, no, I don't want someoneto take that this way, because
that's not at all how I meant it, so I'll just take it down.
But the empath energy is realand there's been many times
where I have to go back to mystory and be like, yeah, I'm not
ready to share that or I'm not,I don't want that to be
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received in a way that I didn'tmean for it to be.
So I think those are most ofthe boundaries that I've had to
implement.
Yuli (23:41):
That's incredible, and I can so relate.
I'm a mental projector too, areyou?
Yes, I love it, yeah.
Erika (23:50):
I know 9%, I think 9% of the population, yeah, something
like that.
I think so.
Yuli (23:56):
Yeah, it's cool.
It's a wild one for sure.
Yeah, it's funny.
I mean, first of all, we haveso many similarities.
I mean I also had my Kundaliniawakening like years ago and I
got into Kundalini yoga practice.
That changed my life and put menot straight like on your path,
like you did, it was like thebefore and after and mine was
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more gradual, but it wasdefinitely a shift moment when I
first felt the energy and Iagree, like I mean, kundalini
Yoga is just such a powerfulpractice.
But, yeah, now we have alsomental projector in common.
It's so cool.
I love it.
So you know.
But, speaking of Kundalini, andI think what you created is so
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unique and so your own right,how you know, a lot of the
modalities that we're seeingtoday and I thought of the
healers are exploring this pathof kind of taking some of those
ancient tools and infusing itwith the modern techniques or
just something that may be moresuitable for the modern audience
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, right, or something moredigestible.
Because if you take traditionalKundalini yoga, we're talking
about a very kind of strictpractice that has a lot of rules
around it.
It's intense, right, it's acommitment.
It's a commitment to thatlifestyle, and what I love about
what you do is you make it moreaccessible to the masses,
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because the tools are just sopowerful, right, and they're so
often but they were for years,kind of like also kept under
because of all those strictrules they kind of kept for, I
would say, select few who arewilling to go that journey.
So how did you come up withthat Like kind of your own
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technique?
You went and you know, you didthe training and they said, okay
, I've seen that, I understand,but now I'm going to create my
own practice and I'm going tobring it to the people in this
particular way.
Erika (26:07):
Fun fact, it was actually reserved for royalty only and
teachers, gurus, would onlyshare it with people in power
because of the power it reallyunlocks, which is so fascinating
.
Now we all have access to it,which is incredible.
But I think, as a mentalprojector, I see efficiency as a
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really important thing in life.
How can we just take somethingand stay true to it, keep the
integrity and make it work forour modern life?
And all the teachings are basedon the original teachings, so
the integrity is there and thelineage is there.
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I think what I've what I maybehave shifted or tweaked is the
amount of time we need to spenddoing it, because I had a
spiritual awakening bypracticing three to five minutes
every day.
That's how powerful thesepractices are, and I saw that
and I looked around at themodern woman or the modern man
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and it's like we might not havean hour and a half for a full
sadhana or a full kundalinipractice, but we could get a lot
done in three to five minuteswith this practice.
So I started teaching, justlike bite-sized meditations, to
help people really start tobuild their practice.
And what ends up happening isyou tap into that energy which
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you described and as youdescribed it, it gave me such
chills.
You start to tap into thisenergy within yourself and you
want to go longer.
You're like I don't want toleave.
In three to five minutes thisfeels like home to me.
This feels like a home that Ihaven't really been to before
and I want to stay here.
And then it turns into likebliss and euphoria and all those
feelings.
So I think, while staying trueto the practice, allowing it to
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be bite-sized or to cut down thekriyas, and keeping the ratio,
because kundalini is verytime-specific, but if you cut
one thing in half, you could cutthe rest of them in half, just
keeping the ratio, basically, ofthe exercises and times.
I've done that and I alsoincorporated a bit of the brain
training that I had to use inorder to heal my anxiety and my
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health anxiety.
I really had to retrain mybrain, so I would incorporate
thinking thoughts of gratitude,thinking positive thoughts while
you're in this really highstate.
Think about releasing thenegative thoughts or the
thoughts of fear from you andthen bringing in that new
thought, recreating, help toguide those new neural pathways
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in the mind, and the practiceabsolutely supports that and
it's actually doing that for you, whether you consciously think
of it or not.
But I think I brought in moreof the conscious and mindset
training into the practice aswell, because that helped me a
lot, and tapping into gratitudeis just such an expansive
practice too.
Yuli (29:11):
That's now.
That's incredible and thanksfor sharing that.
And just, I mean, it's so smart.
I can totally relate to thatkind of bite-sized content,
because this is what personallyintimidated me for years about
Kundundalini, because I feltlike you know it's either I'm
all in into waking up at 5 amand doing the kriya or you know
you're not doing it right.
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And I think you are livingproof that you can change the
five-minute practice and that'sincredible, that it gives a lot
of people, I think, a lot ofcomfort, because I think I'm
sure you know that one of themost common blocks around
meditation well, I don't havetime to meditate, and the second
one I can't sit still, and thethird one is I can't quiet my
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thoughts, but I think the timeis always kind of the first one
and just tackling that, which isso clever because automatically
you unlocked it for so manypeople that can no longer have
that excuse.
Erika (30:07):
The other thing is for the people who feel like they
don't have time.
Time is the real thing.
I completely understand, butthe practice makes the rest of
your day so much more efficientbecause you are bringing I say
you're bringing the whole teamin one direction.
You're not working againstyourself, you're clearing your
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subconscious, you're taking outyour trash, you're taking out
the distractions, you're tappinginto more focus, more energy,
oxygenating the body and I justpicture the full body, the mind
and subconscious.
Everything is moving in onedirection and you find that you
just float through your day somuch more easily.
So in the time that you takefor your meditation, you will
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get that back times five in yourday because of how much more
clear and efficient you'll beand energized.
Yuli (30:57):
Absolutely.
I mean, I couldn't agree more.
And to double down on that, Icould not recommend enough an
hour long meditation, becausethe things you get in an hour, I
mean I've gone into meditation,you know, sometimes there'll be
days in a business when I havea problem that I can just not
solve.
It's not like I need to move toanother dimension to solve it.
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And then I go to an hourmeditation.
By the time I come back there'san email, there's a note,
there's something happened thatcompletely resolved it, and it's
just like so incredible just tobe in that power to know you
don't have to.
I think we're all trained tolive in this world when we have
to hustle for things to happenright.
We have to do X, y and Z tosolve this.
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And it's just like when youmove, when you shift dimensions
and you realize like you canactually solve things on another
level, it's just so empowering.
Erika (31:50):
It's so true.
There's been so many timeswhere I just felt blocked or
didn't know what to do or neededclarity around something and
all I had to do was tune in withthe Adi Mantra and instant it's
just like a shift, and it trulyis.
It's like taking that elevatorto your higher self.
You're more clear, your soul,and getting rid of the rest, the
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overanalyzing and all of thosethings over critical, and being
able to just like.
That's it.
Yuli (32:18):
I love this.
So I mean thank you forempowering people with that
message, because I feel like wealso need.
(32:44):
You know, the meditation spaceis obviously growing and really,
finally, you know new formatsor new ways that are just like
allowing more people toexperiment with that, but you
also build community around itand that's like another layer of
it.
So it's not just products thatyou put out there and kind of
leave people on your own, butyou're also holding space for
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this community.
So can you share what was thatprocess like and how are you
kind of treating this communityas part of your journey as a
healer, as a businesswoman?
Where does that fit in and howdoes it play a role in your
larger vision?
Erika (33:26):
play a role in your larger vision.
Oh my God, I can get emotionalbecause it's a community that
completely fuels me, hearing thefeedback, hearing what the
practice has done for them andtheir lives.
I just got a wild DM rightbefore this about a home that
they never thought that theywould be able to find in their
price range and a year later,after practicing, like she
really contributes it to that.
And it's the community, trulyis everything.
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And it really continues torelight my fire because every
time someone else finds thepractice and it's bringing to
them exactly what they needed inthat moment it's like, yes,
this is why I share and this iswhy I'm so passionate about it.
It worked for me.
It could work for anyone elsethat's meant to find it and
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guided to find it.
So the community is everything.
In the app we have commentswhere people just drop how the
meditation was for them, thingsthat they're looking for, and my
DMs are always open to to getfeedback and I always just want
to continue to provide thesehealing modalities that can
support them in any way.
But I really think it grew byputting myself out there and
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really sharing again from thisauthentic space.
Like I know, I sound like abroken record, but I think
that's what it is, because weall want connection and we all
want to feel like we'reconnected and hear from one
another someone's journey andwhat worked for them and how it
could possibly help us.
(34:55):
And I think there's so muchpower in sharing and even if
it's vulnerable, even you know,we have to do what feels aligned
to our soul, what we feelcomfortable sharing, of course,
but it's like if no one sharedtheir experience, we wouldn't be
able to grow as a collective.
As a human species, we learnfrom one another, we gain hope
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and faith in one another andwe're educated through other
people's process and the trialsand tribulations that they had
to go through to find whatreally helped them.
So I do think that that playeda really big role in having
people feel safe and wanting totry the practice and allowing me
to guide them as a teacher anda guide.
And also having in-personevents has been so special too
(35:40):
Connecting in person, being ableto, like, hug these people who
you know they see me on a screenevery morning on their app, but
it's like no, I'm a human, justlike you're a human, and we're
here in this journey of life tolive, to grow and evolve
continuously.
You know, together and so manyof my community members are just
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so well versed in all of this,all of this that we're talking
about today and all the thingsthat your community has tapped
into as well, and it's like welearn from one another, and I
think that's the most beautifulthing about it.
Yuli (36:15):
Well, Erika, thank you for creating this beautiful space
with your community and, likeall your shares, and putting
yourself out there, and you know, in the most authentic way.
It's just like we need.
We need more people in thisspace, you know, and I think
hopefully this episode willinspire more people to kind of
(36:36):
step, step up and step out,maybe a little bit out of their
comfort zone, for the sake ofsharing this information,
because I think every healer,they have so much knowledge more
than you ever realize and somuch wisdom to share and
sometimes we don't giveourselves that credit.
So thank you for doing that foryour community, but also for
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our community of healers, and Ifeel like we can talk forever
about the ways you build yourpractice.
But I wanted to ask you if youhave kind of any words of wisdom
, particularly for practitionersand healers, whether they're
just starting out and they wantto make an impact in the space,
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or people that are stuck alittle bit.
They may be, they have a greatpractice, but they feel like
they want more.
They want to have again biggerimpact, they want to impact the
larger communities.
Erika (37:31):
I really feel like it's about finding what really lights
you up, about what you do andwhat you share, and just doing
it somehow some way.
Maybe at first you're notcharging for it, maybe you are
just offering it to build acommunity and to get feedback
(37:51):
and to see how people take to it, but, more importantly, to see
how you feel after sharing.
And then from there thismomentum grows and then you
start to find ways that this canbe.
You know this can support youfinancially and help you step
into this as a career.
But I think it's just takingaction in a way that feels so
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good and aligned to you anddoing what lights you up more,
because that momentum will buildand that will guide you to
different experiences anddifferent opportunities.
I also what you said was likewe need more people in this
space.
I think it's so easy to go onsocial media and be like, oh,
everyone's doing it, I'm notdoing it, and at the time when I
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started teaching Kundalini, Ireally didn't know many people
doing it, so I didn't reallyface that in the beginning and I
think that's something a lot ofpeople might face right now.
But a really important thing toremember is that there is a
teacher for everyone and there'sa student every teacher and
who's meant to learn with me andon Evolve they're going to find
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me and if there's anotherKundalini teacher, there are
students meant for that teacheras well.
And it's really not about thiscompetitive space, but I always
look at it as this bigger roleof being here and, through
Kundalini, helping people awakentheir higher consciousness at
this time on the planet.
And, like you said, we need asmany healers and teachers as
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possible sharing their light,because no one's going to do it
in the way you're going to do it, because no one is you and
there are students that aremeant to learn from you in this
lifetime.
So, stepping into that, shuttingoff the noise, I remember when
I first created my social mediaaccount the one I have now I
switched from a personal accountto this account and the only
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people I followed was like theseangel number accounts, these
high frequency contents.
I was only consuming thingsthat fed my soul and I honestly
didn't know like I said, back tothe naive thing, like I didn't
even know of the wellnessmovement.
I didn't know of the spiritualawakening that was possibly
(40:06):
happening in 2017.
It was really just like mefinding this thing that helped
me so much and being in a onelane focus of like.
I wanna share this and I thinkthat also really supported me.
And now, at this time, we're soaware of, like, all the things
being shared, everyone sharingon social media, but maybe,
maybe, your account, you justyou know you choose who you're
(40:29):
following, you choose whatyou're following and you're
following those things thatcontinue to fuel your passion
and just go from there, likecomparison is never going to
assist you and remindingyourself that you are here for a
reason and you're here to sharesomething.
It literally doesn't matterwhat's going on outside of you.
Yuli (40:50):
So many powerful messages and like resonates so much I
could have had the same with.
Since creating the Heallistaccount.
You know I kind of stoppedchecking my personal account but
I was very careful aboutcurating who I follow with
Heallist and you know it wouldbe usually either our members of
our community or some of thosemore high frequency accounts and
(41:11):
it just like, really it waslife changing, like suddenly I
was actually enjoying socialmedia.
I was enjoying going onInstagram and checking out all
those amazing things people aresharing instead of, you know,
having some of those other loweremotions.
So absolutely, and I think,just such a helpful advice to
kind of stay in your lane.
And I think it's when we startcomparing ourselves and and I
(41:35):
think you know being in thespace and with my previous
business, I built the influencermarketing space and the fashion
and beauty industry and I justremember, like back in 2008 when
I was just starting out and itseemed like it was a big space,
but it was just the beginningand everything that came after
was just this huge wave ofpeople right, that became what
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we know today as fashioninfluencers.
So I definitely see the samekind of trend with the wellness
phase.
It seems like everyone is doingit, but it's actually still a
very small number of people.
Trust me, it's gonna come untilthe wave is coming.
It's gonna come very soon,because the world is just going
nuts, so there will be no choice.
Like people are gonna rise, butthere there is a huge wave.
(42:19):
So for anyone who sits andthinks, okay, all the possible
niches, right, quote, unquoteare taken, what else can I do
that no one else done?
You have no idea.
We're just on the cusp ofsomething bigger that's gonna
come.
So now is actually the time.
Now it's the go time to go andestablish your presence because,
(42:42):
just like you think, there areso many people doing it, there's
so few people compared to theworld population that aren't
even interested in the subjectsthat we're talking about.
We think it's everyone, butwe're in such a bubble right.
Erika (42:56):
I went through a period this year where I was like am I
really going to keep tellingpeople how meditation could
change their life?
Everybody knows this already.
And then I had to bring myselfto look around in my personal
community of family, of closefriends, and I'm like, no, it's
smaller than 1% of those peoplewho actually have a practice,
(43:20):
and I know I've been saying thisfor years but just like
everyone now, not everyone, butmost people have some type of
fitness routine.
The next wave is a meditation,spiritual practice.
I'm so excited we'll be herefor it and we'll be able to, and
that's, you know, that's reallywhen all these spiritual
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teachers will come into a spaceof such abundance, because so
many people will need to besupported.
Yuli (43:46):
But that's the next wave and you're right, we need people
there for it yeah, we need tobe able to hold space for
everyone gonna come in, becausethings are just getting more and
more chaotic.
If you just live in, the 3d,world is getting chaotic.
5d is amazing.
It's doing extremely well, but,yes, so true.
(44:09):
Well, Erika, it's such apleasure talking to you and,
yeah, just like so much wisdomand practical and all kinds, and
, and just as we wrap up, Iwanted to ask if there's
anything else you wanted toshare with our community, any
important messages?
Erika (44:27):
No, I'm just so grateful that you had me on to be able to
connect with your community.
It sounds like such a wonderfulspace to be part of.
No, if anyone wants to connectwith me on Instagram and
actually Instagram and TikTokI'm at ncalxcal.
If you're interested in joiningthe membership, we're actually
going to put a link in the shownotes to give you access to a
(44:49):
free month of meditations.
I have over 600 meditationvideos, ranging from three
minutes to close to an houranything you could really need.
I also have a YouTube channelwhich is Evolved by Erika, where
I share more about theKundalini experience and
awakening journey.
Yeah, but I love connecting andI do teach live classes as well
(45:11):
on the app, which is funanother fun way to connect with
community.
So you could find me there,reach out with any questions.
I would love to connect andknow that you came from the
Healist podcast and, again, I'mso grateful that you had me here
.
Thank you.
Yuli (45:26):
You're amazing.
Please keep doing everythingyou're doing and all those
amazing platforms you too.
Welcome to the Heallist Podcast, where we inspire and
guide healers through businessexpansion.
We give voice to incrediblyabundant healers to share their
stories.
We dive into the quantum fieldto unlock the energies of
conscious creation.
We also develop digital toolsto help you grow, which you can
(00:25):
find on heallist.
com.
I'm your host, Yuli, and I'mgrateful you chose to join this
space.
Now let's go deep.
Hello, my dear friends, anotheramazing guest.
Today on the Heallist Podcast,we're joined by Erika Polsinelli
, the founder and creator ofEvolved by Erika to talk about
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her inspiring journey as ahealer.
She stumbled upon Kundalinibreathwork five years ago while
dealing with personal anxiety,paranoia and panic attacks, and
that changed everything for her.
Now she teaches breathwork,meditation, kundalini on her
very own platform and community,hosts her podcasts and
(01:11):
retreats, and built anincredible following who breathe
with her daily.
Erika, welcome to the podcast.
As you know, I like to setintention for each episode, and
for this one, I'm just sograteful to have you with us.
I've been following you and youjust built such an inspiring
(01:35):
presence around you, which issomething that's hard to do on
those digital platforms whenthat's our only way to connect,
and I just admire that whenpeople are able to do that, but
do it also like, authenticallyand be very genuine about it.
So I'm just grateful to haveyou here and share some of your
wisdom with our listeners and Ihope to inspire them with the
(01:57):
same.
Erika (01:58):
Thank you for having me.
I'm so excited to be here.
When I heard about thecommunity that you lead and the
podcast you have, it was ano-brainer, it was a full-body
yes that I would love to comeand speak to you in your
community.
Yuli (02:12):
Oh, I love that.
First of all, I love whenpeople make decisions with
somatic feelings.
Erika (02:19):
Yeah, it's essential.
Our intuition is very strong.
Yuli (02:24):
Right, but when it all all connects, it's just such a
beautiful tool and I've beendiving deeper into that too and
it's just like amazing how ithelps us just like navigate and
life and business it is so true.
Erika (02:38):
It is so true and honestly, I would say that's my
guiding force.
This is like the spoiler alertof all the conversation we're
going to have today, but it'slike that.
Being able to tap into thatknowing within has guided me on
my entire journey, so it'sdefinitely essential, especially
in the times that we're livingin.
Yuli (02:58):
Well, I love your spoiler alert because, first of all, all
of my listeners know I lovenon-linear podcasts, that that's
kind of my jam and just kind ofuh, giving people, um, some
tools of empowerment right fromthe beginning.
But I don't want to skip onyour journey.
But since we already got kindof to the end and you know I had
(03:19):
so many questions for you andI'm just fascinated by
everything you've built and youknow it's such a short time as
well, right, because we'retalking about just five years of
discovering this for the firsttime and it looks like you have
just been doing it your wholelife, right?
So I love, besides all thequestions that I want to ask you
(03:39):
about your journey, to justkind of start with the business
aspects, and this is what Ithink really is missing often in
this holistic space.
There's so much informationtoday, thank God, about wellness
and, you know, mindset and anykind of topics of our different
modalities, but I feel likewhat's missing and this is what
(04:01):
we're trying to fill with theHeal Us podcast missing and this
is what we're trying to fillheal with with the healers
podcast is more like practicaltools and more like tactical
information.
Okay, I have all these bigdreams.
I envision myself with thisplatform and community.
How do I get there?
How, what are the practicalsteps that maybe people are
sitting here and listening to ustoday and just inspired by
(04:24):
everything you've built, what iskind of give us a shortcut,
okay, how do you go fromdiscovering these powerful tools
for yourself to building thisempire and community?
Erika (04:35):
Well, I'm a dreamer, I'm an air sign, I have a lot of air
in my chart, so I love livingin that dream state of ideas and
getting downloads from theuniverse.
I'm an ideas person.
They just come through.
I have a very clear channel toDivine.
But the most important aspectof receiving the idea of what it
(04:56):
is you're meant to do or carryout is actually take action.
And sometimes we could getstuck in that idea space.
But if we're not actuallybringing some into fruition,
we'll notice the ideas slowlystart to stop because we're
filled with all these ideas andit's like okay, well, we have to
(05:17):
give birth to some of them andmove that energy and then be
open to the next step or thenext inspiring thought or idea.
So for me, I personally workfrom a very intuitively guided
space.
I know when I receive a divinedownload or thought or message,
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and my entire business came as atremendous download while I was
in my Kundalini training.
It was day two of my training.
I had no intention actually ofbecoming a Kundalini teacher.
I went to the training becauseit rocked my world.
The practice changed my lifedramatically.
I suffered with panic attacks,anxiety.
(06:03):
I was just living a verydisempowered life and the
practice completely helped me doa 180.
And I was like this is wild.
I need to actually understandwhat I'm doing, because I'm a
geek like that, like I love tounderstand what actually is
happening through the breath,work and the mantras and the
practice.
So I went to training day two.
I received the download of whatI was meant to do and then it
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was like okay, it's action time.
Like I have this idea and Ineed to put wheels in motion and
I think how do we do it?
We see other people that do itand we use that as inspiration.
We rely on our resources.
We go to people who maybe havebuilt the website or built the
subscription or the membership,and we see how they've done it,
(06:46):
how it's been successful or evenlike ways we've seen it but we
think it could be better andcreating it authentically from
our soul, our heart, our mindand our intuition.
And it's about for me, it wasalways about taking small baby
steps that I felt really safe in.
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So I was an elementary schoolteacher at the time and I knew,
first of all, I knew I wasn'tgoing to be a teacher my whole
life and I knew that I was meantto empower people.
I had no idea how until I foundKundalini and started to train,
but I also knew that I had totake action in creating this new
pathway for myself, for me tobe my own boss, to start my own
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empire, to be able to share thisgift.
I uncovered within me, thisdivine gift that was so much
greater than the human Erika.
It was this energy that ranthrough me that I was like whoa,
I just want to share thisbecause I think it could help so
many other people.
So from there, while I wasteaching, I started to build an
online platform, and it was likea login on a WordPress website
(07:54):
and then, slowly, from there, Iwould add content every month
and then from there, I graduatedto an app.
And it's just been oneintuitively guided movement in
the direction of what felt rightto me, what felt aligned to me,
one step in that direction at atime.
And it's never for me, it'snever about like what's a good
(08:16):
business move, or and that'sfine, if people have those hits
too, that's wonderful, but forme it's always been a super
intuitive journey, a verydivinely led journey, where I
receive these messages and I getthese visions and then I act
from that space.
Yuli (08:33):
That's incredible and thank you for sharing that.
I love this idea of you knowtaking the small actions and not
letting the ideas to kind oflike stew for too long.
And you mentioned somethingvery interesting.
The way you talked about it Ifound very refreshing, because
(08:53):
you said I wanted to be my ownboss and I wanted to build my
empire.
To be honest, I don't hear alot of healers say that, because
it's often like perceived inthis community as something that
is maybe not appropriate.
Right, because the counterargument to right to the space,
(09:26):
to see people that are confidentenough to kind of claim their
space and say, yes, I am, I havethis divine guidance.
But the divine guidance alsotells me I need to have an
empire in order to impact asmany people as I can.
So can you talk about that?
Was that a problem?
(09:46):
Was it natural to you, or wasthat a process that you had to
overcome in your spiritualjourney?
Erika (09:53):
I always knew that I wanted to create something and
it was all based on empoweringother people.
And I realized that probably inmy early 20s, and a lot of it
came from just like myupbringing and how I wanted to
support my family, whether it beemotionally, spiritually,
(10:13):
financially, whatever it may be.
And I think around college Irealized like, oh wow, people
can have their own business,they can use their creativity to
create a job for themselves andI can do this and actually
support people in a way that'sso passionate to me, where I can
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really help people empowerthemselves through this practice
and change their own life.
So I think I mean the otheraspect of this was my life and
what I do for work now is one.
Everything I share on socialmedia.
(10:56):
That is like truly me and myauthentic life.
Meditation is part of myeveryday life.
So it made sense like, whycan't my career be what I do in
my life and why can't I actuallybe able to sustain and make
money and support myself, myfamily, through this, while
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impacting so many other people?
And it's like if I'm able to dothat, I wouldn't have any
energy splits.
I wouldn't be like, okay, let'sput on the teacher suit and go,
be an elementary school teacherand act like the elementary
school teacher and then comehome and be the spiritual
teacher that I am and speak thespiritual language, all the
conversations we like to have,like.
(11:41):
I started to feel like my lifewas a little split and I just
wanted that embodiment ofoneness and be able to channel
all of my energy into sharing apractice with people.
And it's so funny because Inever used the word empire, but
you used it and then I wasguided to and I'm so humbled by
(12:02):
you even describing it as that.
But it's really just about Ifeel like me spending time in
meditation, connecting to Divine, seeing how I can best support
others in finding their highestself within them.
And I really don't take creditfor it, because the energy that
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we create during the practice,it lives within each and every
one of us and it's just like howcan we access it?
And there's so many differentmodalities and the way I teach
is one of them, and some peopleare, you know they're meant to
find this practice, they'remeant to tap in and they're
meant to find their path throughthis, just as I was.
So I think in our world we'vebeen brainwashed or programmed
(12:50):
about how a leader or CEO orwhatever should be and how a
spiritual person should be, andhow spiritual people shouldn't
have money and they shouldn'thave nice things because they're
giving.
But can't we recreate that?
And how amazing would it be forpeople who are so conscious and
spiritually connected to have alot of resources, because we
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can reach more people, we canhelp more people, we could do
amazing things with theresources and the financial
abundance that we have when westay connected to that really
intentional and conscious space.
So I think I know we're livingthrough a huge paradigm shift
right now and there's a lot ofshifts we're making, and I think
what you're bringing up isabsolutely one of them.
(13:35):
It's a big shift.
We're going to start seeingthat acceptance of spiritual
people, making money in a veryin a conscious way, in a way of
integrity, from a place of loveand expansion, and then
hopefully inspiring so manyother people to take the leap
and seeing you don't have tostay in a job that you feel so
disconnected to.
(13:55):
You can actually go ahead, useyour gifts to make a living for
yourself while impacting so manyother people.
Yuli (14:02):
Erika, you speak my soul language.
Seriously, I couldn't have saidit better myself.
And this is exactly what we'retrying to create.
My mission is to bring, yes, toestablish the holistic healing
and make it more acceptable andwork through some of those
(14:22):
stereotypes and challenges, butit's also to bring abundance to
this space, because I reallythink money is power, and right
now the power is in the handsthat are not necessarily
conscious or have the bestintentions for everyone.
And I completely agree with you.
Sometimes I just, you know, goand wonder in my dreams like
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what if most of the resourceswere controlled by people but as
conscious community?
Like how would that world looklike?
And what if you know, it wasn'ta shame to build a spiritual
business and we would celebratepeople that create abundance in
the space?
How would that look like?
And so that excites me a lotbecause, just like having people
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like yourself who understandthe energies behind the energies
that power this world and givethem more access to the
financial systems and the wealthin this world, is just so
empowering.
So thank you for sharing thismessage because I feel like,
coming from you, it just has,like it has more power because
(15:35):
you're somebody who is on thatside right, and somebody who has
a strong healing side as well.
But you're also verycomfortable talking about
creation of wealth, which is, atthe end of the day, just
creation.
Right, it's all creation.
Whether you're creating moneyor I don't know, building a
(15:56):
retreat center or creatinghealth for people, it's all part
of our creation process.
So thank you for sharing thatmessage of our creation process.
So thank you for sharing thatmessage, of course, and you said
a couple of things that Iwanted to double click on.
So earlier you mentioned yoursocial media presence.
That is part of who you are.
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It's so authentic and it is andit's really.
I mean, it's beautifully done,it feels genuine, it's very
relatable, you feel veryconnected to your audience.
And was that just kind ofnatural?
Because I know there's peoplethat are kind of come to that
place and they're naturally kindof fitting the format and the
(16:38):
medium.
But I think a majority ofpeople don't have that comfort
with social media channels, withputting themselves out there
without talking on camera, andsome people it takes them years
to get to that place when theyfeel authentic, even though they
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feel authentic inside, but itdoesn't always translate to the
medium.
So can you talk about yourprocess there.
Was it a process to find theright format that was authentic
and comfortable to you, or wasit just kind of like came about
naturally?
Erika (17:15):
When I discovered the practice, yes, I wanted to do
anything I could to share itwith people because of how it
impacted me so greatly.
It truly healed me and I was soexcited about it maybe super
naive too, in the sense of like,oh my gosh, I found something
(17:36):
that is just so transformative.
I transformed so much throughthis.
I just want to share it.
And something my husband wouldsay often is he recognized early
on like you really don't carehow you come off to people, you
just want to share from here.
You're never focused on whatpeople will think of you.
(17:56):
If you have a message, you'regoing to share it, and I think
that's part of the recipe ofsuccess and what's helped me a
lot is just truly sharing from areally pure and authentic place
, and I never got down on like,oh, I don't really look great in
this video or stopping maybesomeone else's perspective of me
(18:21):
, especially early on.
I think I had like naivete onmy side when I was starting,
because I was just like, yes, Iwant to share this.
And as I grew a bit moresensitive to energy because
that's what a lot of thesepractices will do I'm more aware
of energy and sharing and howmuch to share and what to share
(18:41):
and all of those things.
But for the most part I think Ihave my Leo rising to thank for
being really comfortable oncamera and just like when I put
on the phone, I just feel likeI'm talking to like best soul
friends, because I feel likeeveryone that's been guided to
my page is for a reason, andit's a frequency thing, where
(19:02):
we're connected by thisfrequency that we share together
in a sense, and I just feellike I'm connecting with people
who want to be here, who want tohear what I have to say.
So I just share it.
And there's been days, some days, where I'm like I feel like
this very deep spiritual beingand teacher and then, like
sometimes I'm talking about likeproducts that work for me.
(19:24):
I'm like, does that align?
And the truth is like I'm amulti-dimensional being, I am
super spiritual, I'm havingthese supernatural experiences
in my meditation and then I workout and need dry shampoo for my
hair because, like, that's justhow it is and, yeah, I want to
share it all.
That's just how I came toreally feel comfortable with
(19:47):
sharing all different parts ofme and my life and my
relationship with my husband andmy family and I think it's just
fun to share it all and I thinkthat is part of it that makes
relatable, because I couldeasily portray myself as the
meditation teacher who is justmeditating and you're not seeing
(20:09):
much more of her life, or she'snot going out and enjoying the
things that many of us areenjoying.
I could portray myself as that,but I just feel like an inside
look into the whole picture andthis shift into how we're all
accessing thatmultidimensionality and, yeah, I
(20:29):
just feel like it's fun.
Yuli (20:30):
It just makes life fun and it makes sharing fun to see all
the different parts, wow that'sbeautiful and it's amazing that
you're able to show all thosedifferent parts and talk about
it with such confidence.
But you know you mentioned thedifferent energies and being
aware of them right.
So I think this is one of theconcerns that comes up a lot
(20:51):
with people that are intuitiveand you know their impacts right
.
They're easily impacted bythose group energies, especially
on social media impacted bythose group energies, especially
on social media.
What are your kind of tools tooutside of?
You know, of course, meditatingand making sure you're in that
centered space.
(21:12):
Do you have any kind ofboundaries in that sense?
And if you feel like ever thoseboundaries are crossed or
something that affects you, howdo you deal with that?
Erika (21:26):
Well, I don't know if you're familiar with human
design, are you Sure?
So I'm a mental projector andas a mental projector I always
say it's kind of like you cansee things sometimes before the
collective can see andunderstand things.
And it's not.
(21:46):
I'm not trying to toot my ownhorn at all, but it's kind of
like this you just are able tosee past what is actually in the
3D realm and there's, you know,there's a lot of things that
come up for me that, like Iwould like to share.
But I also have to create aboundary with myself that not
(22:07):
everything needs to be sharedand not everyone is ready to
hear certain things on thisspiritual journey.
And that's a place I definitelyhave boundaries, because I'm a
Libra.
I want to keep the peace, forsure, and social media is just.
It's a broadcast where eachaccount is broadcasting their
(22:29):
opinion or their belief or theirperspective.
And as someone who meditates alot and can hold space for all
perspectives, whether it alignswith mine or not, I want to see
the collective get more intothat space too.
I think we're all workingtowards that.
But as a Libra, it could be hardfor me to share something that
(22:50):
I'm really passionate oropinionated about, because I'm
so aware of themulti-perspectives that exist
and I have respect for themulti-perspectives.
So I think that's a place Ireally have strong boundaries.
And I also think that I knowlike if I share something and it
(23:11):
doesn't feel right in my body,sometimes I'll feel the energy
of people receiving it and I'lljust delete it right away and be
like, no, I don't want someoneto take that this way, because
that's not at all how I meant it, so I'll just take it down.
But the empath energy is realand there's been many times
where I have to go back to mystory and be like, yeah, I'm not
ready to share that or I'm not,I don't want that to be
(23:33):
received in a way that I didn'tmean for it to be.
So I think those are most ofthe boundaries that I've had to
implement.
Yuli (23:41):
That's incredible, and I can so relate.
I'm a mental projector too, areyou?
Yes, I love it, yeah.
Erika (23:50):
I know 9%, I think 9% of the population, yeah, something
like that.
I think so.
Yuli (23:56):
Yeah, it's cool.
It's a wild one for sure.
Yeah, it's funny.
I mean, first of all, we haveso many similarities.
I mean I also had my Kundaliniawakening like years ago and I
got into Kundalini yoga practice.
That changed my life and put menot straight like on your path,
like you did, it was like thebefore and after and mine was
(24:19):
more gradual, but it wasdefinitely a shift moment when I
first felt the energy and Iagree, like I mean, kundalini
Yoga is just such a powerfulpractice.
But, yeah, now we have alsomental projector in common.
It's so cool.
I love it.
So you know.
But, speaking of Kundalini, andI think what you created is so
(24:41):
unique and so your own right,how you know, a lot of the
modalities that we're seeingtoday and I thought of the
healers are exploring this pathof kind of taking some of those
ancient tools and infusing itwith the modern techniques or
just something that may be moresuitable for the modern audience
(25:07):
, right, or something moredigestible.
Because if you take traditionalKundalini yoga, we're talking
about a very kind of strictpractice that has a lot of rules
around it.
It's intense, right, it's acommitment.
It's a commitment to thatlifestyle, and what I love about
what you do is you make it moreaccessible to the masses,
(25:30):
because the tools are just sopowerful, right, and they're so
often but they were for years,kind of like also kept under
because of all those strictrules they kind of kept for, I
would say, select few who arewilling to go that journey.
So how did you come up withthat Like kind of your own
(25:54):
technique?
You went and you know, you didthe training and they said, okay
, I've seen that, I understand,but now I'm going to create my
own practice and I'm going tobring it to the people in this
particular way.
Erika (26:07):
Fun fact, it was actually reserved for royalty only and
teachers, gurus, would onlyshare it with people in power
because of the power it reallyunlocks, which is so fascinating
.
Now we all have access to it,which is incredible.
But I think, as a mentalprojector, I see efficiency as a
(26:33):
really important thing in life.
How can we just take somethingand stay true to it, keep the
integrity and make it work forour modern life?
And all the teachings are basedon the original teachings, so
the integrity is there and thelineage is there.
(26:54):
I think what I've what I maybehave shifted or tweaked is the
amount of time we need to spenddoing it, because I had a
spiritual awakening bypracticing three to five minutes
every day.
That's how powerful thesepractices are, and I saw that
and I looked around at themodern woman or the modern man
(27:16):
and it's like we might not havean hour and a half for a full
sadhana or a full kundalinipractice, but we could get a lot
done in three to five minuteswith this practice.
So I started teaching, justlike bite-sized meditations, to
help people really start tobuild their practice.
And what ends up happening isyou tap into that energy which
(27:37):
you described and as youdescribed it, it gave me such
chills.
You start to tap into thisenergy within yourself and you
want to go longer.
You're like I don't want toleave.
In three to five minutes thisfeels like home to me.
This feels like a home that Ihaven't really been to before
and I want to stay here.
And then it turns into likebliss and euphoria and all those
feelings.
So I think, while staying trueto the practice, allowing it to
(28:01):
be bite-sized or to cut down thekriyas, and keeping the ratio,
because kundalini is verytime-specific, but if you cut
one thing in half, you could cutthe rest of them in half, just
keeping the ratio, basically, ofthe exercises and times.
I've done that and I alsoincorporated a bit of the brain
training that I had to use inorder to heal my anxiety and my
(28:28):
health anxiety.
I really had to retrain mybrain, so I would incorporate
thinking thoughts of gratitude,thinking positive thoughts while
you're in this really highstate.
Think about releasing thenegative thoughts or the
thoughts of fear from you andthen bringing in that new
thought, recreating, help toguide those new neural pathways
(28:50):
in the mind, and the practiceabsolutely supports that and
it's actually doing that for you, whether you consciously think
of it or not.
But I think I brought in moreof the conscious and mindset
training into the practice aswell, because that helped me a
lot, and tapping into gratitudeis just such an expansive
practice too.
Yuli (29:11):
That's now.
That's incredible and thanksfor sharing that.
And just, I mean, it's so smart.
I can totally relate to thatkind of bite-sized content,
because this is what personallyintimidated me for years about
Kundundalini, because I feltlike you know it's either I'm
all in into waking up at 5 amand doing the kriya or you know
you're not doing it right.
(29:31):
And I think you are livingproof that you can change the
five-minute practice and that'sincredible, that it gives a lot
of people, I think, a lot ofcomfort, because I think I'm
sure you know that one of themost common blocks around
meditation well, I don't havetime to meditate, and the second
one I can't sit still, and thethird one is I can't quiet my
(29:54):
thoughts, but I think the timeis always kind of the first one
and just tackling that, which isso clever because automatically
you unlocked it for so manypeople that can no longer have
that excuse.
Erika (30:07):
The other thing is for the people who feel like they
don't have time.
Time is the real thing.
I completely understand, butthe practice makes the rest of
your day so much more efficientbecause you are bringing I say
you're bringing the whole teamin one direction.
You're not working againstyourself, you're clearing your
(30:27):
subconscious, you're taking outyour trash, you're taking out
the distractions, you're tappinginto more focus, more energy,
oxygenating the body and I justpicture the full body, the mind
and subconscious.
Everything is moving in onedirection and you find that you
just float through your day somuch more easily.
So in the time that you takefor your meditation, you will
(30:49):
get that back times five in yourday because of how much more
clear and efficient you'll beand energized.
Yuli (30:57):
Absolutely.
I mean, I couldn't agree more.
And to double down on that, Icould not recommend enough an
hour long meditation, becausethe things you get in an hour, I
mean I've gone into meditation,you know, sometimes there'll be
days in a business when I havea problem that I can just not
solve.
It's not like I need to move toanother dimension to solve it.
(31:18):
And then I go to an hourmeditation.
By the time I come back there'san email, there's a note,
there's something happened thatcompletely resolved it, and it's
just like so incredible just tobe in that power to know you
don't have to.
I think we're all trained tolive in this world when we have
to hustle for things to happenright.
We have to do X, y and Z tosolve this.
(31:40):
And it's just like when youmove, when you shift dimensions
and you realize like you canactually solve things on another
level, it's just so empowering.
Erika (31:50):
It's so true.
There's been so many timeswhere I just felt blocked or
didn't know what to do or neededclarity around something and
all I had to do was tune in withthe Adi Mantra and instant it's
just like a shift, and it trulyis.
It's like taking that elevatorto your higher self.
You're more clear, your soul,and getting rid of the rest, the
(32:12):
overanalyzing and all of thosethings over critical, and being
able to just like.
That's it.
Yuli (32:18):
I love this.
So I mean thank you forempowering people with that
message, because I feel like wealso need.
(32:44):
You know, the meditation spaceis obviously growing and really,
finally, you know new formatsor new ways that are just like
allowing more people toexperiment with that, but you
also build community around itand that's like another layer of
it.
So it's not just products thatyou put out there and kind of
leave people on your own, butyou're also holding space for
(33:04):
this community.
So can you share what was thatprocess like and how are you
kind of treating this communityas part of your journey as a
healer, as a businesswoman?
Where does that fit in and howdoes it play a role in your
larger vision?
Erika (33:26):
play a role in your larger vision.
Oh my God, I can get emotionalbecause it's a community that
completely fuels me, hearing thefeedback, hearing what the
practice has done for them andtheir lives.
I just got a wild DM rightbefore this about a home that
they never thought that theywould be able to find in their
price range and a year later,after practicing, like she
really contributes it to that.
And it's the community, trulyis everything.
(33:49):
And it really continues torelight my fire because every
time someone else finds thepractice and it's bringing to
them exactly what they needed inthat moment it's like, yes,
this is why I share and this iswhy I'm so passionate about it.
It worked for me.
It could work for anyone elsethat's meant to find it and
(34:10):
guided to find it.
So the community is everything.
In the app we have commentswhere people just drop how the
meditation was for them, thingsthat they're looking for, and my
DMs are always open to to getfeedback and I always just want
to continue to provide thesehealing modalities that can
support them in any way.
But I really think it grew byputting myself out there and
(34:35):
really sharing again from thisauthentic space.
Like I know, I sound like abroken record, but I think
that's what it is, because weall want connection and we all
want to feel like we'reconnected and hear from one
another someone's journey andwhat worked for them and how it
could possibly help us.
(34:55):
And I think there's so muchpower in sharing and even if
it's vulnerable, even you know,we have to do what feels aligned
to our soul, what we feelcomfortable sharing, of course,
but it's like if no one sharedtheir experience, we wouldn't be
able to grow as a collective.
As a human species, we learnfrom one another, we gain hope
(35:16):
and faith in one another andwe're educated through other
people's process and the trialsand tribulations that they had
to go through to find whatreally helped them.
So I do think that that playeda really big role in having
people feel safe and wanting totry the practice and allowing me
to guide them as a teacher anda guide.
And also having in-personevents has been so special too
(35:40):
Connecting in person, being ableto, like, hug these people who
you know they see me on a screenevery morning on their app, but
it's like no, I'm a human, justlike you're a human, and we're
here in this journey of life tolive, to grow and evolve
continuously.
You know, together and so manyof my community members are just
(36:01):
so well versed in all of this,all of this that we're talking
about today and all the thingsthat your community has tapped
into as well, and it's like welearn from one another, and I
think that's the most beautifulthing about it.
Yuli (36:15):
Well, Erika, thank you for creating this beautiful space
with your community and, likeall your shares, and putting
yourself out there, and you know, in the most authentic way.
It's just like we need.
We need more people in thisspace, you know, and I think
hopefully this episode willinspire more people to kind of
(36:36):
step, step up and step out,maybe a little bit out of their
comfort zone, for the sake ofsharing this information,
because I think every healer,they have so much knowledge more
than you ever realize and somuch wisdom to share and
sometimes we don't giveourselves that credit.
So thank you for doing that foryour community, but also for
(36:59):
our community of healers, and Ifeel like we can talk forever
about the ways you build yourpractice.
But I wanted to ask you if youhave kind of any words of wisdom
, particularly for practitionersand healers, whether they're
just starting out and they wantto make an impact in the space,
(37:21):
or people that are stuck alittle bit.
They may be, they have a greatpractice, but they feel like
they want more.
They want to have again biggerimpact, they want to impact the
larger communities.
Erika (37:31):
I really feel like it's about finding what really lights
you up, about what you do andwhat you share, and just doing
it somehow some way.
Maybe at first you're notcharging for it, maybe you are
just offering it to build acommunity and to get feedback
(37:51):
and to see how people take to it, but, more importantly, to see
how you feel after sharing.
And then from there thismomentum grows and then you
start to find ways that this canbe.
You know this can support youfinancially and help you step
into this as a career.
But I think it's just takingaction in a way that feels so
(38:11):
good and aligned to you anddoing what lights you up more,
because that momentum will buildand that will guide you to
different experiences anddifferent opportunities.
I also what you said was likewe need more people in this
space.
I think it's so easy to go onsocial media and be like, oh,
everyone's doing it, I'm notdoing it, and at the time when I
(38:34):
started teaching Kundalini, Ireally didn't know many people
doing it, so I didn't reallyface that in the beginning and I
think that's something a lot ofpeople might face right now.
But a really important thing toremember is that there is a
teacher for everyone and there'sa student every teacher and
who's meant to learn with me andon Evolve they're going to find
(38:58):
me and if there's anotherKundalini teacher, there are
students meant for that teacheras well.
And it's really not about thiscompetitive space, but I always
look at it as this bigger roleof being here and, through
Kundalini, helping people awakentheir higher consciousness at
this time on the planet.
And, like you said, we need asmany healers and teachers as
(39:20):
possible sharing their light,because no one's going to do it
in the way you're going to do it, because no one is you and
there are students that aremeant to learn from you in this
lifetime.
So, stepping into that, shuttingoff the noise, I remember when
I first created my social mediaaccount the one I have now I
switched from a personal accountto this account and the only
(39:43):
people I followed was like theseangel number accounts, these
high frequency contents.
I was only consuming thingsthat fed my soul and I honestly
didn't know like I said, back tothe naive thing, like I didn't
even know of the wellnessmovement.
I didn't know of the spiritualawakening that was possibly
(40:06):
happening in 2017.
It was really just like mefinding this thing that helped
me so much and being in a onelane focus of like.
I wanna share this and I thinkthat also really supported me.
And now, at this time, we're soaware of, like, all the things
being shared, everyone sharingon social media, but maybe,
maybe, your account, you justyou know you choose who you're
(40:29):
following, you choose whatyou're following and you're
following those things thatcontinue to fuel your passion
and just go from there, likecomparison is never going to
assist you and remindingyourself that you are here for a
reason and you're here to sharesomething.
It literally doesn't matterwhat's going on outside of you.
Yuli (40:50):
So many powerful messages and like resonates so much I
could have had the same with.
Since creating the Heallistaccount.
You know I kind of stoppedchecking my personal account but
I was very careful aboutcurating who I follow with
Heallist and you know it wouldbe usually either our members of
our community or some of thosemore high frequency accounts and
(41:11):
it just like, really it waslife changing, like suddenly I
was actually enjoying socialmedia.
I was enjoying going onInstagram and checking out all
those amazing things people aresharing instead of, you know,
having some of those other loweremotions.
So absolutely, and I think,just such a helpful advice to
kind of stay in your lane.
And I think it's when we startcomparing ourselves and and I
(41:35):
think you know being in thespace and with my previous
business, I built the influencermarketing space and the fashion
and beauty industry and I justremember, like back in 2008 when
I was just starting out and itseemed like it was a big space,
but it was just the beginningand everything that came after
was just this huge wave ofpeople right, that became what
(41:55):
we know today as fashioninfluencers.
So I definitely see the samekind of trend with the wellness
phase.
It seems like everyone is doingit, but it's actually still a
very small number of people.
Trust me, it's gonna come untilthe wave is coming.
It's gonna come very soon,because the world is just going
nuts, so there will be no choice.
Like people are gonna rise, butthere there is a huge wave.
(42:19):
So for anyone who sits andthinks, okay, all the possible
niches, right, quote, unquoteare taken, what else can I do
that no one else done?
You have no idea.
We're just on the cusp ofsomething bigger that's gonna
come.
So now is actually the time.
Now it's the go time to go andestablish your presence because,
(42:42):
just like you think, there areso many people doing it, there's
so few people compared to theworld population that aren't
even interested in the subjectsthat we're talking about.
We think it's everyone, butwe're in such a bubble right.
Erika (42:56):
I went through a period this year where I was like am I
really going to keep tellingpeople how meditation could
change their life?
Everybody knows this already.
And then I had to bring myselfto look around in my personal
community of family, of closefriends, and I'm like, no, it's
smaller than 1% of those peoplewho actually have a practice,
(43:20):
and I know I've been saying thisfor years but just like
everyone now, not everyone, butmost people have some type of
fitness routine.
The next wave is a meditation,spiritual practice.
I'm so excited we'll be herefor it and we'll be able to, and
that's, you know, that's reallywhen all these spiritual
(43:41):
teachers will come into a spaceof such abundance, because so
many people will need to besupported.
Yuli (43:46):
But that's the next wave and you're right, we need people
there for it yeah, we need tobe able to hold space for
everyone gonna come in, becausethings are just getting more and
more chaotic.
If you just live in, the 3d,world is getting chaotic.
5d is amazing.
It's doing extremely well, but,yes, so true.
(44:09):
Well, Erika, it's such apleasure talking to you and,
yeah, just like so much wisdomand practical and all kinds, and
, and just as we wrap up, Iwanted to ask if there's
anything else you wanted toshare with our community, any
important messages?
Erika (44:27):
No, I'm just so grateful that you had me on to be able to
connect with your community.
It sounds like such a wonderfulspace to be part of.
No, if anyone wants to connectwith me on Instagram and
actually Instagram and TikTokI'm at ncalxcal.
If you're interested in joiningthe membership, we're actually
going to put a link in the shownotes to give you access to a
(44:49):
free month of meditations.
I have over 600 meditationvideos, ranging from three
minutes to close to an houranything you could really need.
I also have a YouTube channelwhich is Evolved by Erika, where
I share more about theKundalini experience and
awakening journey.
Yeah, but I love connecting andI do teach live classes as well
(45:11):
on the app, which is funanother fun way to connect with
community.
So you could find me there,reach out with any questions.
I would love to connect andknow that you came from the
Healist podcast and, again, I'mso grateful that you had me here
.
Thank you.
Yuli (45:26):
You're amazing.
Please keep doing everythingyou're doing and all those
amazing platforms you too.
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