January 15, 2025 • 50 mins
Unlock the secrets of consciousness with our guest, Alan Steinfeld, a visionary in alternative medicine and a consciousness explorer. Gain insights from his book "Making Contact" as Alan guides us through the paradigm shift from traditional Newtonian physics to a quantum understanding of our interconnected universe. Discover the mind-bending possibilities of remote viewing and healing, and learn how breakthroughs in telepathy among autistic children challenge our perceptions of time and space.
Join us as we traverse the road of spiritual evolution and teaching, examining how to translate the unknown into the known. Alan shares his personal journey, from the intricacies of acupuncture to the expansive world of public speaking and writing. We explore the resonance of vibrations, from the cultural waves of the 60s to today's importance in aligning with those around us. Alan offers a candid look at balancing personal fulfillment with the ever-evolving landscape of spiritual and healing practices.
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Yuli (00:04):
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Now let's go deep.
Hello, my dear friends, welcometo the very first episode of
2025.
So excited to have with me herea very special guest today.
Alan Steinfeld is an explorer ofconsciousness.
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For over 30 years he's hostedand produced the weekly
television series New Realitiesin New York City.
Additionally, with 90,000subscribers to his YouTube
channel and 22 million viewerswho have been seeing his
programs and this includesinterviews with luminaries in
the field of health,spirituality and UFOs, such as
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Deepak Chopra, marianneWilliamson, ram Dass and every
major UFO researcher in thefield.
With his media appearances,lectures and conferences, he
informs millions about humanpotential, remote viewing and
the nature of alien contact.
He feels that only when theinner explorations of the soul
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are combined with the outeradventures of the mind can we
achieve a harmoniousunderstanding of our place in
the cosmos.
Of our place in the cosmos andwhat I recently discovered about
Alan, that he also wrote a bookback in 1997 called Careers in
Alternative Medicine after hefinished his acupuncture degree,
so he's really a pioneer inthis industry.
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It's such a privilege to haveyou here and also opening this
amazing, incredible year for allof us, so welcome to the
podcast.
Alan (02:06):
And I think what you're doing is more important than
ever, because people are lookingfor alternatives and you know
the old ways, the old mainstreamways, are just not working for
a lot of people who are notgetting answers there.
So it's an exciting time we'rein.
Yuli (02:24):
Thank you, no, absolutely.
And you know, as we're getting,as we're starting this amazing
new year, I would love to hearyour perspective, just kind of
start with the big picture.
I mean, you've seen so much,you've been in the space for so
long and I think the last it's acompliment the last few years,
really, things you knowaccelerating to a new level Can
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you give us that bird's eye view?
Alan (02:48):
Sure, I mean how I see it, and it does involve my new book
, making Contact, but also thefirst book I wrote about
alternative medicine.
It seems like more people areaware of vibration and energy.
You know we're moving from aNewtonian world, physics world,
where things were matter andparticles, to wave and energy.
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So this is the quantum field,the quantum.
You know people talk about thequantum field and the quantum
mind, and quantum is sort oflike a little overused because
people, I don't think, even knowwhat it means.
But it does mean that there's aholistic approach to
consciousness, that we're partof this bigger picture where
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we're not separate.
If you're looking at Newtonianphysics and world, everything is
separate and and and.
The parts make the whole, butthey but the part.
The whole is greater than theparts make the whole, but the
whole is greater than the parts,in a kind of quantum physics
way of understanding reality.
So I think, in general, thebird's eye view of the coming
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age we're moving into is thatwe'll understand energy and
vibration much more.
It'll be more a tool of socialexchange.
You'll vibrate towards thepeople you have a frequency
match to.
I mean alternative healing'salways been about vibration,
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though, because we wannaovercome the mechanistic Western
idea of medicine, which isstill useful at some point.
So what we need?
But the pendulum has been sofar the other way into just this
materialistic, mechanisticworldview that we need the
energetic, wave-likeunderstanding of what reality is
.
But that's not it either.
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We, you know it's like the leftand right brain.
We need to be whole brainbeings, but we've been so left
brain logical that we need to,and this is what this time is,
with lots of experiments inconsciousness.
I just listened to the womanwho's putting out the telepathy
tapes.
Have you heard about that?
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No, oh, that is a breakthrough.
If you want a bird's eyethrough what's coming.
What was her name?
Diane?
I just seen a couple ofinterviews where but it's so
brilliant she, she looked atautistic children and realized
that some of the severe autisticchildren who couldn't even
speak, were actually telepathic.
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They actually would read theminds of their parents If they
were, if their parents werelooking at.
Let's say there's one exampleof parents looking at an eye
chart and the child is looking,asked to read the eye chart.
They'd read the chart throughthe eyes of their parents,
through the mind of theirparents, because they sometimes
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couldn't see it on their own.
But there there's this hugebreakthrough in telepathy, esp.
I teach remote viewing.
So this awareness that there'ssomething about our minds that
transcend time and space, thatis the next frontier.
It's all consciousness, right?
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People are just sayingconsciousness doesn't mean
anything until you understandwhat is the application of
consciousness.
Because people just usingconsciousness like a substitute
for God, and that's great, it'sall conscious, it's all God,
whatever you want to say.
But how do you apply it?
And you can apply it in remotesensing, remote healing, remote
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viewing, all sorts of ways ofsending the local mind into the
non-local field.
Does that make sense?
Yuli (06:30):
Yes, absolutely so.
Alan (06:32):
that's the exciting part of what's coming.
Go ahead, yes.
Yuli (06:35):
Yes, and since you mentioned application, I would
love to also get yourperspective how that could be
applied by healers directly intheir practices.
Alan (06:47):
The idea of remote.
Well, people are doing remotehealings all the time.
But if you're a healer, I wouldrecommend taking one of my
remote healing courses becauseyou could see, you learn to see
inside someone's body.
You become a sort of medicalmedium.
I mean, you can't anyone candevelop that skill and it's
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getting out of the way andletting yourself receive the
part where you set yourintention on.
So the way I teach remoteviewing is like there's a target
.
Let's say I have someone.
I'm saying, okay, where's thisperson?
I give you their name, you tellme where they're at.
You just set your intentions,like you set your GPS, and then
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you get your left brain out ofthe way and you receive it's
receiving.
The right brain is the feminine, it's the receiver part.
The left brain, which has beenoverdeveloped, is the sender.
It's like boom, boom, boom.
It's the aggressive part andthen this other part receives
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the message.
All you have to do is set theGPS, which is your intent.
That's how I teach it and thenyou sit back and you get your
mind, your monkey mind, out ofthe way and you receive the
images.
So when I've been working onpeople, I also do body work.
I would come to like a tensepart in that person's shoulder
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or something.
And then I just tune in and askthe body I guess body talks a
little bit about that, ok,what's this about?
And then I say, would saysomething like like, would get
like, okay, your father hit youwhen you were 10 years old.
It would just come to me andthey would say, well, how did
you know?
I said, well, your body told methat and, like you know,
sometimes I'm a little off, butI just let that come to me and
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you get feedback oh no, itwasn't 10, it was this or
whatever.
It's like you know.
But you, you know the universeis talking to us, if we can only
listen.
So I would say, if you'rehealing, you're already a little
intuitive.
You also, you already want togive somebody something.
That's transcendence of themechanistic mode of behaving,
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and then you let yourself feelinto it and you receive messages
.
It takes a little practice.
You're not always right becausepeople get their own stuff in
the way, but everyone can dothis.
Everyone can do remote viewing.
Everyone has right brainfacilities because it's the
right brain and they learnedthis from the autistic kids that
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are much more open because it'snot, I would say, confused with
all this logical left brainlinear way of being.
So when that's out of the way,you're actually in the infinite
field and when you can be inthat space, when you're working
with people, you can get amessage.
I would always check it outwith the person because
sometimes with people you canget a message.
I mean, I would always check itout with the person because
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sometimes you know, you just saya lot of things but you can
actually look at someone's bodyit's also what I do in class and
say, okay, and this personlooked pretty normal, nothing.
And say, okay, where's thisperson having pain or where are
the?
Is there an injury or something?
And people get it because thekey is notice what you notice.
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That was actually a term that apoet said, but I use that in
healing Notice what you knowwhat stands out.
Oh, the left shoulder seemsfine, but why am I looking at
this?
So you just use your intuitivesense and apply it and you know
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fine tune, that it takespractice.
You know, it's like everyonecan play the piano, but the good
people take practice.
So you have to practice what?
And it has to do with thisnon-local mind that we have
access to take practice how thefield is talking to you, the
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exchange with the infinite whichwe are.
But we're trapped in the localunderstanding of the mind and we
can access the non-local.
So there's a big revolution inthat.
The telepathy tapes are justgoing to really change reality.
Look for that too.
And lots of confirmation.
I mean I'm teaching remoteviewing like every month there's
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somebody who wants to or class.
I just did seven semesters ofteaching of these classes.
I might do something on theshift network.
So people are interested inthis non-local reality.
But you can't explain that withthe ways we understand reality.
How can you see what's not here?
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What sense do you use?
It's not your five senses, butbecause we're infinite beings,
divine beings, beyond time andspace, we can tap into that
field.
It's what Joe Dispenza is alsoteaching.
Lots of people are talkingabout this, but okay, well, you
mentioned Joe.
Yuli (11:48):
I'm going to his retreat in like a couple of weeks, so he
is definitely one of myfavorites and this is exactly
the message that resonates somuch, and I think I love also
that you mentioned this ideathat everyone can develop this
telepathy.
And we're seeing, definitely onour platform, you know, having
thousands of healers from allover the world what are we
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seeing is that energy healingand intuitive reading becoming
such a prominent modality thathealers are not just using on
its own using on its own but youwill see, like the Reiki
practitioners or Chinesemedicine practitioners, they add
that to their list ofmodalities because it's becoming
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one of those, likesupplementary skills that are so
crucial for healers.
Alan (12:34):
Definitely, I have to say, about Joe.
We had the same teacher, me andJoe.
We were.
We were at this mystery school,the Ramtha school, together.
I'd known him for about 20years, before he ever went
public.
He would teach you know aboutthe Ramtha School together.
I'd known him for about 20years before he ever went public
.
He would teach you know aboutthe Ramtha School.
So I was that.
I was there for I guess 25years.
He was there and you know I Iknew him and now he's a big shot
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, which is great and he deservesthat because he's really
helping a lot of people.
But I knew him.
Yuli (13:03):
When I'm just kidding, no, I know I found your interview
with him that I think wasprobably taped on a very old
recorder.
Alan (13:12):
But yes, it was yeah, because you know, no one knew
him when he first came out,except I knew him and I knew he
had this amazing gift to reallymotivate people, to tune into
people.
I mean, he used to givelectures at the Ramtha School,
so you know, we'd open thelecture with hello geniuses, you
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know.
And so I saw that evolution andI'm really happy that he is
influencing and helping so manypeople because that he's
passionate about it.
It's his life and he's, youknow, evolving the teachings all
the time.
So I'm glad you're going tolearn something there.
Yuli (13:51):
It's going to be my fourth retreat, and every one of them
was different.
Alan (13:56):
Yeah, he keeps learning new stuff.
Did you see the movie theSource?
Did you see that?
Yes, of course, right.
So yeah, I think.
But it's the same idea that I'mtalking about, but it's more.
I feel like we're going moreinto the unknown.
Maybe Joe's doing that now Ihaven't heard his lectures in a
while but it's like we're hereto what Ramtha said and what I
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go by.
Maybe we're here asincarnational beings to make
known the unknown.
Do you know what that means?
What does it mean to you?
Yuli (14:31):
Well, joe talks a lot about the unknown and it's this.
You know, people call it somany different names, like they
could be the field, it's thevoid there's so many.
Alan (14:39):
We're here to make known the unknown, you know.
Yuli (14:43):
Well, it's connecting in the field and basically losing
the sense of the reality andworking with the fields and the
energies and that's why I thinkthat you mentioned the beginning
of the vibrations are suddenlybecoming important and more
people are sensitive to that.
You know, I'm talking to peoplethat are completely not in the
spiritual space and they say Istarted feeling vibrations all
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of a sudden.
Alan (15:06):
Right.
No, you're right about themaking known.
We're here to bring in newinformation that is in the field
and that's the potential eachone of us has and you know it is
about that's the new language.
Of course it started in the 60s.
The first time I heard thatBeach Boys song, good Vibrations
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, that was a paradigm shift forme.
That was like it's an old song,I think it was whatever 68.
But it's like that was like themainstreaming of this whole
idea of vibrations.
And now, now it's.
Yes, it was a song, wasinteresting, but now it's a
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reality.
You know you, you vibe with yourtribe, you know those are the
things that so yeah, and it's.
And I think in relationshipsthat's really.
I've had to learn that the hardway.
But you know, the relationshipit's really.
I've had to learn that the hardway.
But the relationship it's notjust a pretty picture.
You want to really be on thesame wavelength as the other
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person and you know it doesn'tmatter how they look or what
they say or whatever it's like.
Is the vibration there?
Because if it's not there, Imean I don't see how it could
work out.
But you know, and the same thingwith healers and clients, in a
sense.
I mean, when I was doingacupuncture I really and this
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was just my problem I couldn'twork on anyone I really didn't
connect with, like I couldn'ttreat.
That.
It's like I wasn't interestedin treating them.
Maybe a good healer, it doesn'tmatter, they always find a way.
But for me I was a littleparticular.
Maybe that's my problem ingeneral, I don't know.
But I think we can raise peopleup.
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We can get them to a statewhere they do kind of drop out
of the lower self, the lowerself-indulgent sort of ways,
egoic ways, because you knowthat will bring people down.
And even about remote viewingand all that remote stuff, you
have to transcend your ego mindif you're really going to tap
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into the non-local field.
That's part of what we're hereto do, so amazing.
Yuli (17:29):
Well, I have so many follow-up questions from this
Well, I'm just curious.
You know we mentioned some ofthe teachers and I mentioned
some of your teachings as well,and I think what a lot of
practitioners that I see thatare trying to navigate this idea
.
Okay, what do I teach when, how?
How do I grow?
How do I scale?
What do I offer?
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You seem kind of, through yourcareer, tried different types of
offerings right, because youknow you evolved, I'm sure, as a
person, the customers, theclients involved evolved a lot
your students.
So how do you navigate thisbusiness in having this
longevity right Also, withoutkind of like losing interest,
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but also finding what is theformat that's right for you
today?
Alan (18:17):
Well, first of all, your interests may change over time.
Like I studied acupuncture forfour years and then I worked in
that field for a while, but Iwasn't really interested in
continuing that because peoplewere just coming to me with
lifestyle problems.
They want to lose weight, but Isaid so, change your diet.
They didn't want to changetheir diet, so it's like, well,
I can't help you.
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This is, there's no magicbullet, that that.
So I got a little bored withactual those types of sessions.
Of course it's great to helppeople and and you can in any
type of modality, but but so myinterests change.
I went more into public speakingand research and writing these
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different books, which was moreinteresting.
And then, of course, ifsomeone's in pain, I still like
to do body work.
It's kind of fun for me becauseI that's where I started, as a
body worker I start.
I was in the film business butthere was this producer who was
really overweight, very, youknow, four or 500 pounds, and he
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was in pain all the time and hejust asked me to to, I don't
know, rub his shoulder orwhatever.
I just help him out because andI realized that I could go
underneath the fat and gettowards the muscle which was
very strained because ofcarrying all that weight.
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And so I developed thistechnique of like I can massage
people through winter coats nowbecause I can go through the top
layers and get to thisunderlying tissue that has the
tension.
So that actually did get me intoacupuncture because I wanted to
learn more about the body andall that stuff.
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And it was all really great tolearn about the meridians and
all the different meridians.
Most people just know theregular meridians, but there's
the ancestral meridians or thepsychic meridians, there's the
tendomuscular meridian.
I mean, the meridian system isso complex and so holistic unto
itself that it's really a greatfield of knowledge.
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So I forgot what was the restof your question.
I went off on that.
Yuli (20:32):
I went off with you, but I think we're talking about your
journey from all those differentmodalities and teaching and
formats of teaching, and how doyou find?
Alan (20:42):
Yeah.
So I want to say I say yes toeverything.
When, especially, I wasstarting to research all this
stuff and someone asked me tospeak somewhere, and you know I
would say yes, no matter whatsize of the conference, no
matter who they were.
So you know, I'd speak to twopeople or I'd speak to, I think,
as many as 1,500 people.
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I just said yes, okay, someonesaid, can you do this?
And you know, and then I didadult education.
I talked about acupuncture andhealing and these people who
really weren't interested in itinitially.
But you know, I talked to thembecause they needed someone to
give a talk.
So I would just say yes.
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Just say yes is my big advice.
If you really want to build afollowing or a platform, just
just say yes to whatever comesalong and cause everything.
You don't know where thatopportunity is going to lead and
even if it's, you're talking totwo people.
That was practice for me.
Okay, I could try some newmaterial out here on two people
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that you know may work in abigger crowd, or you know it was
fun.
And you know, yeah, no onewants to talk to like one or two
people, but it's, it was reallygood to do that because all the
practices of speaking and eventreatments, whatever you're
doing, if it's you know oneperson, then okay, you know
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you're telling one person a week.
So if you're doing a reallygood job and focus on them and
give them the kind of energythey need, they're going to tell
somebody and it's like sothere's nothing too minimal or
small, especially if you're juststarting out to go for, because
it all bears fruit in a goodway.
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You must have heard that before.
Yuli (22:34):
Yes, that's incredible advice.
And then my next question ishow do you go from those two
people you're speaking to to90,000 subscribers on YouTube
that you have today?
Alan (22:45):
Well, you know, when I got tired of acupuncture actually
when I was studying acupunctureit was in Santa Fe and it was
rooming with this guy who had apublic access program there in
Santa Fe, a public access TV,and I had done video in New York
.
That's how I met that producer,because I was doing like just
very boring productionassistance work.
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But then I was in Santa Fe andI started to do some video
interviews with people.
So, you know, when I came backto New York after Santa Fe, I
wanted to continue interviewingpeople.
So I started a public access inNew York show and that was
before YouTube, that was in the90 show and that was before
YouTube.
That was in the 90s.
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And I had this girlfriend saidwhat are you doing with all
those interviews?
You don't even have enoughairtime to broadcast them.
And then she's the one who saidto me in 2006, oh, I know what
you can do with all thoseinterviews.
They're starting this onlineplatform called YouTube that you
can upload all those shows.
And I said, okay, I guessthat's why I was doing them all,
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because so I had all thismaterial right in the early days
of YouTube and people weretrying to get material and do so
.
I had hundreds of shows to that.
I still have more to convertfrom VHS and mini DV, and so I
have all this material and Ihave posted a lot of that from
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the 90s and even the 80s maybe,on YouTube.
So, yeah, I was one of theearly creators on YouTube, even
before Google had bought YouTubeand was just two guys in their
garage doing uploads, and so,yeah, I mean I don't have as
much subscribers as a lot ofpeople, but I have maybe more
than some, and it's building,and I'm always looking through
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my archives for more stuff.
Like you know, I haveinterviews with Bud Hopkins.
You know who he is.
He was an early not early, buthe was a big UFO researcher that
was responsible for bringingnew ideas into that field.
Yuli (24:49):
So those get a lot of airplay because you know he's
not around anymore and havethese interviews with him, and
so that's an incredible assetjust to be able to have those
interviews, like you said, thatno one else has, and you're the
one who has them on YouTube.
Alan (25:05):
Right, you know, actually, gaia, I just, yeah, I'm trying
to make some deals with Gaiabecause you know I'm a historian
sort of.
I mean if you see my apartmentit's full of books and so it's
like the history of like thespiritual movement from.
I guess I kind of came into itin the early 1980s, so that's
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the last.
What is that?
40 years, every little nuanceand new fad and new healing
modality and latest greatestteacher or snake oil salesman or
whatever.
I've tracked it and you knowit's kind of fun to see the
evolution of this industry, in asense you know, and see what
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modalities are popular now andwhat have gone out of favor and
what's coming in and where allthat going, because it's its own
history.
It's like collecting baseballstatistics.
It's like, oh yeah, who'shitting the most home runs now?
Yuli (26:05):
Amazing.
I love that.
And so any predictions formodalities that you think are
really going to see on the rise?
Alan (26:14):
Well, there are these a lot more.
Well, I have to say, there aremore like energy, machine type
things which, like brainwavethings, are coming out or I
don't know.
I don't like the machine stuffas much as the natural.
I mean, you know, in a way it'sthere is nothing new.
People would put their hands.
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If you see all those oldEgyptian hieroglyphics with
people's hands up, they weresending energy, you know.
So I think, though, thepotential of the human mind to
be non-local and send andreceive energies.
There are some new, I guessmachines or therapy.
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I mean, I like the float tank,you know, I know that's not new,
but I like floating in the darkand weightlessness, where you
are becoming pure consciousness.
That's one of my favoritethings to do.
But yeah, I'm going to be atthe Conscious Life Expo in LA
and there's always, like thelatest, greatest thing, people
sending vibrations throughtoothbrushes that resonate with
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the teeth, the frequencies ofthe teeth.
That's kind of new.
I just interviewed this reallygreat woman, bianca Ruling, who
has these frequencies for everypart of your body and every
illness or whatever you can have.
There's frequencies that cancorrect that.
That goes back to Rife, ofcourse, and that's not new the
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Rife generator frequencies thatcan correct that.
That goes back to Rife, ofcourse, and that's not new the
Rife generator frequencies thatreally do work.
I mean there's resonance andfrequencies.
Oh yeah, I did meet somebodywho's been able to translate the
frequencies of nutrients intolight and put that light into
the body.
So there's a lot of new trendswith the translations of
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frequencies in differentmodalities, like translating
light frequencies into sound ornutrient, the frequencies of
nutrients or different colorsinto sound or light, and I mean
that's been around but I thinkthey're fine tuning it now.
But you know, those are easy towork with in a way and they're
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very beneficial.
When your body resonates,everything's resonant.
So your heart, lung, liver,kidney, they all have a
different resonant frequency.
And when you this is guy Mathonfrom England would calculate
the frequencies of differentorgans and then broadcast the
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organs with the perfect kind ofhealing frequencies and it would
have a physical effect on thebody, that's also been around
for a while, but now I thinkpeople are doing that more
through computer generated sound.
So sound and light frequenciesare as popular as ever and
they're all good.
You know there's some red lightdevices that are better than
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others because it has extrafrequencies added to it.
I think you can find the onethat I like at the Grand Canyon
Foundation.
This guy, joss Daniels, hasinvented these red light beds
that you lay under and you getall these nutritional
frequencies as well as the redlight frequencies.
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So I don't know.
There's so much that's amazing.
Yuli (29:35):
It's a great list and I got to tell you the frequency
medicine to me.
I couldn't agree more.
I've experienced those thatcome through water, which is
another field, that they chargethe water with certain
frequencies and I've seenmiracles Personally with my
family.
I interviewed one of thepractitioners, andrea Kandy, in
one of my other episodes, ifanyone wants to listen.
(29:57):
But it's a whole new frontierand I'm surprised how much not
talked about because I don'tknow what the reason is.
Alan (30:05):
But Well, you can charge your water with your own
frequency.
This is what we used to do atthe Ramda school.
You hold the glass up to yourforehead and you which is what
Emoto demonstrated you put thewhat you want to manifest into
the water and you drink thewater and it has to have a
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resonant effect, you know.
So frequencies are huge and asthis whole vibrational
revolution comes more and morepopular and known, we will be
working more with frequenciesanyway, and I think don't deny
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the power of your ownfrequencies to, like Emoto
showed, to change crystallineshapes, and so that's something.
One more thing I really thinkis great is hydrogen water.
Do you know about the holyhydrogen Like hydrogen.
I interviewed this guy.
He called himself Mr Hydrogenbut he cured his body with
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hydrogen.
And there's something calledholy hydrogen water.
It's a device where you just itputs six parts per million
device where you just it putssix parts per million pieces of
hydrogen into water, so you'retaking in more hydrogen.
You know, hydrogen is the firstelement, it's the first thing
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from source.
They don't know where hydrogencomes from.
Of course it comes from atomsand all that, but where's all
that come from?
So hydrogen from hydrogen.
The universe, our matter,universe, the field, everything
you know around you, was created.
So taking hydrogen into yourbody is connecting you back to
the original source.
And the other thing hydrogendoes you know what is?
(31:54):
H2o Right, the extra hydrogencombines with the free radical
oxygen to flush out, you know,free radicals out of your body.
So I recommend the HolyHydrogen Machine.
You could use my code I thinkit's A-L-A-N code for a discount
if you want to.
And they are made modeled afterthe Lords.
(32:21):
The water at Lords.
That was a big healing miraclewater at Lords, france, where
the apparitions of Mary appearedand all that.
And I do think there'ssomething to that.
There's a magic that happens atthose apparitions sites.
So the water at Lords wasanalyzed and they realized it
had this extra hydrogen in it.
So the Japanese created thisdevice that modeled itself after
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the water at Lourdes and peopleare having great healing from
the holy hydrogen water and I'vebeen using it and you can also
breathe it in.
You can breathe the hydrogen in, but drinking the water, I
think, actually goes deeper.
So there's a water revolution.
There's that woman.
What's her name?
Veda Austin, from New Zealand.
(33:08):
She's a big water.
Have you heard of her, vedaAustin.
She's a great speaker about thepower of water and you know
water is the universal solvent,so water's big these days.
People charging water, peopleand charge it yourself, holding
your hand love your water as youput it in your body and of
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course you want good qualitywater.
You don't want like awfulpolluted water or chemicals in
it.
You want the best water you canto charge it.
And you know you filter yourwater.
I mean if you're in New Yorkyou definitely need a filter for
your water, or most cities, butif you have water from like an
underground well, then you'regiving yourself extra minerals
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and vitality.
It's not just the water, h2o,it's the vitality, it's the
structure of water.
So water is a big thing.
But that's been also beenaround for many years.
The whole water energy thing,you know, but that's still big.
And I think water vibration,all that light sound, they're
all.
They never go out of style.
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So they're big.
Yuli (34:16):
And they're all connected to the quantum right.
Alan (34:18):
Looping back, Well, yes, I guess they are, but you know,
those are grounding things.
Light sound water bodyembodiment yes.
Yuli (34:32):
Switching back, no, well, thank you for this incredible
overview and I think you gave somany great ideas to a lot of
our listeners.
But switching back a little bitto your career and this
incredible longevity that you'vebuilt and I know it's been done
over many decades, but it seemslike you connected with some
really, really incredible peopleon this journey and I know part
of it probably was being so inthe early days when it was still
(34:54):
a small industry.
But you continue to just be.
You know the I don't know whatthe word for it, but I just
remember I went, I came, to myfirst New Life Expo in Brooklyn.
I was a couple of years ago andthis guy just appeared and, you
know, offered his services as myguide and, and you know, he was
walking around and showing meall these people and saying, oh,
(35:15):
this is Al Stifel.
Do you know who he is?
He has, you know, almost100,000 YouTube subscribers,
he's so-and-so.
So, anyway, you seem to besomebody that people know and
recognize, some sort of like afixture in the scene.
What is your?
How do you manage thisincredible network?
How do you, you know, grow it?
How do you maintain it?
(35:36):
Well, I'll tell you.
Alan (35:38):
There's one simple answer for me, anyway.
I am constantly curious.
So I don't think aboutmaintaining a network.
I don't think about you know, Ithink about, oh, this person.
What is this person sayingsomething new?
I'm like a talent scout, themaster, and you learn everything
(36:01):
that you can from these prettyamazing researchers.
And that's why me and Joe wereat the Rampha school, like you
know.
That was pretty amazing wisdomfor its time.
And so I'm still seeking outnew life and new civilizations.
You know, as they say in StarTrek, but no, there's so many
(36:23):
out new life and newcivilizations.
You know, as they say in StarTrek, but no, there's so many.
And of course, that was a littlebit before the Internet the 90s
, 80s, 90s and it's like wow,you can just get so caught up in
research.
Now.
There's so many interestingthings going on.
So I go to a lot of the expossee who's new, see who's there.
So I'm just and I'm alwaysnetworking people too, I'm
(36:47):
always connecting the dots.
Oh, you should see this personhere.
I mean, if people areinterested, I'll offer that.
Or this person connects to thatperson and I don't know it's.
You're just taking it all in.
I don't know, you're justtaking it all in and I like to
review what I've learned and useit in my own practice.
(37:07):
Life lectures Connect the dotsis, I guess, one of my favorite
pastimes.
So I just do that because it'sfun to make those connections
for people and it kind of bringsthe world together a little bit
more.
So how do I do it?
I do it because I have fundoing it.
(37:28):
That's a good answer.
Yuli (37:32):
Amazing and I guess we can't talk to you without
mentioning the UFOs and how yougot into that space from you
know, going from acupuncture,writing books and all of that.
I'm sure there's a story.
Alan (37:47):
Yeah, it's actually in my book If you get a chance to read
chapter seven.
But let's see how I was alwaysinterested as part of this
adventure of the unknown, alwaysinterested in space.
I wanted to be an astronautgrowing up and I was just at the
NASA Space Center in Florida,which was a little disappointing
(38:07):
because we weren't out in space.
But no, I was interested inthese way out stuff.
I'm an Aquarian, you know I'man Aquarian, you know, born
under the sign of Aquarius Sun.
Do you know about astrology alittle bit?
Yuli (38:20):
Yes.
Alan (38:22):
Sun, my Aquarian sun is in the 11th house of Aquarius Sun.
Do you know about astrology alittle bit?
Yes, sun, my Aquarian sun, isin the 11th house of Aquarius
and has this opposition toUranus, which is also very
Aquarian as we move intoAquarian.
So all those Aquarian idealsare something that I'm really
excited about.
And UFOs, this unknown reality.
(38:42):
I think this is the mostexciting thing.
Yeah, we talked about healingmodalities, but the fact that
people and the government andinsiders are saying we're not
alone in the universe, thatthere's something else to see
here, that the world is biggerthan we thought, I think that is
the most exciting thing toinvestigate on the planet.
(39:05):
And what makes it even moreexciting is that nobody has any
answers.
It's like this is an unknownfield, it's like a whole new
territory.
I mean, the government doeshave some answers.
They probably do have crashretrieval, they do probably have
bodies of aliens, becausethat's been acknowledged, at
(39:26):
least off the record somehow.
But they're just looking tomake weapons and I think the
whole reason they're not makingany progress is because the ETs
are not interested in lettinggovernment make weapons from
this technology, you know.
So I think they're really here,whoever they are, because I
(39:47):
don't think we know People sayPleiadians or Syrians.
I don't think you can makethose general statements like
that because we're not educatedenough to there's something here
for sure, and they'redefinitely from somewhere else.
I think I'm pretty positive inmaking that claim.
(40:09):
So I just became obsessedbecause, yes, about my story, I
did have an experience oftraveling cross country where I
think I did have, like you cancall it an abduction or
something type of experiencewhere it's like I was into it
before that.
But then once I realized thatoh no, this may have happened to
(40:31):
me.
I was, as they say in thebusiness, sucked down the rabbit
hole and became obsessed.
You know when something happensto you that you can't explain
and I still can't explain it.
You know like this missing timeand this mark on my body and
then this weird dreams.
But so when something happens,like even in trauma, when
(40:54):
something happens, people do twothings at the same time they,
they, they pull back, but theybecome obsessed.
You know time, they pull back,but they become obsessed and in
a way, there is a bit of atrauma involved in the contact
experience because it's so faroutside what we call normal and
ordinary that there's no placeto put this.
(41:16):
So that's why I really enjoytalking about it and speaking
about it and writing about it,because it's like we're here.
Like Joe Dispenza says, make newneural pathways of the unknown,
that people can cognize thesenew realities and then recognize
it as it's put out to thepublic.
(41:36):
Right, you can't recognizeanything you haven't cognized.
So part of this field, thephenomena, is cognizing new
realities.
There's no place for ETs orwhatever these things are in our
world unless we carve theneural nets of understanding to
make a place for them.
(41:56):
And actually Joe's doing thatnow in those workshops.
He's talking about the beingsthere and all that.
Yuli (42:02):
So but I've seen them.
He's not just talking aboutthem.
I've seen them.
Alan (42:06):
You've seen them in Joe's workshops.
Yes, what did you see?
Yuli (42:11):
Well he works with.
I think there's different typesof beings that accompany.
Especially it's on those bigretreats.
When you have 2000 plus people,what?
Alan (42:19):
did you see?
Yuli (42:21):
Blue beings white beings.
Alan (42:23):
How did you see them?
Did they physically show up toyou?
Yuli (42:26):
Well, you can.
I don't think in that world theterm physical is appropriate,
but there was definitely.
They were as real as a physicalperson would look like.
Did you see them?
With your eyes open or closed?
No eyes closed, and you cansense their energies.
And you know, when you havemultiple people reporting on the
same vision, you kind of.
(42:47):
That's what creates reality,right?
Alan (42:50):
Right.
Well, that's, I think, whatthis whole UFO phenomenon is
about.
It's about a planetary shiftwhere all of us will be able to
sense these beings, shift whereall of us will be able to sense
these beings.
And I'm happy Joe is working inthat field.
Because when I firstinterviewed Joe, I asked him
about ETs.
He goes well, that's not reallyin my field.
(43:13):
And I said and then I saw himlast year at some conference I
said, joe remember I asked youbecause I gave him a copy of my
book.
I said you said you didn't wantto talk about this and now
you're talking about it.
He goes well, it wasn't myexperience when you asked me
those questions, which is honestyou know it is yeah, so I think
it was a big leap for him toactually acknowledge that,
(43:36):
because it took the work to awhole other level.
I don't even think he mentionsthat in the source film, does?
Yuli (43:41):
he no, no, no.
I don't think he publiclyacknowledges that.
Alan (43:46):
Well, he's been ultimately talking about it, but it's the
talk among the students.
Yuli (43:49):
If you talk to many of his especially advanced students
who have been to many retreatsand I think he mentions it
during the retreat and I likehis explanation and I think it
makes a lot of sense that youhave to raise your vibration to
a certain level to be able tosee and interact with them.
Alan (44:07):
That's what the whole phenomena is trying to do for
the planet.
You've heard about the droneissues in New Jersey right,
right, I was going to ask you,yes.
Well, I think, because there'sthe machines and then there's
these orbs and these plasmathings.
So what I think, and I don'tknow, because the government is
(44:28):
saying, well, we don't know whatthey are, which is a big lie,
because I think they do.
But I think there are these ETcraft coming, coming and in
order to kind of confuse people,the Pentagon has put up their
drone craft to intersperse withthese ET craft and just to kind
(44:51):
of confuse the matter a littlebit, because they don't want to
completely give over thenarrative to these other beings
just yet, but narrative to theseother beings just yet.
But they're showing up becausenow people are aware that there
is something out there and thatit is a shift in vibration.
This is how people do CE5s.
(45:13):
Have you heard about the CE5practice?
It's close encounters of thefifth kind where instead of
they're making contact with you,you're making contact with them
.
So you're calling out to themthe good ones and I think most
of them are pretty good, youknow to come to you.
So most of the time peoplewould wait for them to show up,
(45:35):
but now we're sending out thesignal for them to appear to us,
and so there's a lot happening.
There's so many moving parts inthis particular genre of New Age
awakening that that's why it isso exciting.
You know, I think they are here, maybe like Joe is doing, to
(45:59):
raise our vibration, to raise itup by because when you're in
the presence of these beings atleast in my experience, and
they've just appeared in dreamstates, and actually Daryl Anka
talks about this too.
You know who Daryl Anka is.
He channels the being Bashar.
I've interviewed him about this.
When you're in the presence ofthese beings, your vibration is
(46:22):
shifted and unless you canremain lucid, conscious, aware,
their field is so much morepowerful that you just go
unconscious.
You can't maintainself-awareness in the field of
these beings unless you practicelucidity, lucid consciousness,
(46:48):
because it's like trying to getWi-Fi on an AM radio we don't
have the bandwidth, but we havethe potential for the bandwidth.
It's just that we haven't gotthose bandwidths in place.
So when these beings show up,the idea is to maintain an
altered state of consciousness.
There's something called the Ozeffect among many experiences
(47:10):
have you heard about that?
Where reality shifts.
It's like these beings show upand suddenly well, I've had this
to me the air looks still,everything is just still and
quiet, and there's a differentessence.
Some people get really, reallytired at that.
Some people feel this vibrationthrough their body.
(47:32):
I mean, even Gary Nolan if youknow who he is talked about this
vibration.
He's very mainstream scientist,but he's had these experiences.
He talked about this vibration.
He's very mainstream scientist,but he's had these experiences.
He talked about this vibrationthrough his bike.
So I think, in general, whatwe're talking about with the
healing and the UFOs and allthat, and what's happening in
2025, it's just my feeling isthat the vibrational field of
(47:55):
the planet is definitelyshifting.
We are putting the clutchesdown and we are on the gears and
we are moving from third tofourth to fifth and that's what
we're feeling.
The world post-COVID isstranger than ever and you know,
(48:17):
so much has changed.
I mean the fires happening nowin California.
That's really upsetting.
It's upsetting to see,upsetting a lot of world, but
everything is changing and it'snot fun sometimes, but it's, you
know, and it's awful for thatto happen to so many people.
(48:37):
But there's no but and I alsothink the world is not the same
as it was, you know, five yearsago.
And this whole idea of feelingand vibration and frequency in
energy, medicine, in UFOs andpolitics and planetary
frequencies.
(48:58):
It's all about the same thingin different formats.
Yuli (49:05):
Well, that is an incredible summary and
prediction at the same time.
I couldn't choose a betterspeaker, a better guest to kick
off our year and put it all inperspective.
Alan, thank you so much forthis wonderful conversation.
I feel like we could go on andon, and I would love to have you
back anytime, anytime.
Alan (49:27):
I'd love to talk about remote viewing a little more,
because once you get that skillyou could use it for anything
and you know it's a practicealso.
You have to really.
But we are infinite beings.
That's my kind of final comment.
We are forever infinite beings.
That's my kind of final comment.
We are forever infinite beings.
And when we realize that andfunny thing is, the CIA, by
(49:50):
wanting to spy, compete with theRussian psychic spying program,
develop remote viewing, whichof course the masters and
mystics have known forever, butnow it's become mainstream they
kind of the CIA indirectlyintroduced us to our
transcendent forever beingnessin a sort of indirect way.
(50:13):
But so what I'm saying is yeah,I'll come back and talk about
how each of us are actuallyexisting beyond time and space,
and remote viewing absolutelyproves that to be true.
Yuli (50:26):
Incredible.
Well, I definitely want to takeone of your classes and become
one of those experts and again,thank you so much for all your
wisdom.
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Hello, my dear friends, welcometo the very first episode of
2025.
So excited to have with me herea very special guest today.
Alan Steinfeld is an explorer ofconsciousness.
(00:49):
For over 30 years he's hostedand produced the weekly
television series New Realitiesin New York City.
Additionally, with 90,000subscribers to his YouTube
channel and 22 million viewerswho have been seeing his
programs and this includesinterviews with luminaries in
the field of health,spirituality and UFOs, such as
(01:12):
Deepak Chopra, marianneWilliamson, ram Dass and every
major UFO researcher in thefield.
With his media appearances,lectures and conferences, he
informs millions about humanpotential, remote viewing and
the nature of alien contact.
He feels that only when theinner explorations of the soul
(01:34):
are combined with the outeradventures of the mind can we
achieve a harmoniousunderstanding of our place in
the cosmos.
Of our place in the cosmos andwhat I recently discovered about
Alan, that he also wrote a bookback in 1997 called Careers in
Alternative Medicine after hefinished his acupuncture degree,
so he's really a pioneer inthis industry.
(01:57):
It's such a privilege to haveyou here and also opening this
amazing, incredible year for allof us, so welcome to the
podcast.
Alan (02:06):
And I think what you're doing is more important than
ever, because people are lookingfor alternatives and you know
the old ways, the old mainstreamways, are just not working for
a lot of people who are notgetting answers there.
So it's an exciting time we'rein.
Yuli (02:24):
Thank you, no, absolutely.
And you know, as we're getting,as we're starting this amazing
new year, I would love to hearyour perspective, just kind of
start with the big picture.
I mean, you've seen so much,you've been in the space for so
long and I think the last it's acompliment the last few years,
really, things you knowaccelerating to a new level Can
(02:44):
you give us that bird's eye view?
Alan (02:48):
Sure, I mean how I see it, and it does involve my new book
, making Contact, but also thefirst book I wrote about
alternative medicine.
It seems like more people areaware of vibration and energy.
You know we're moving from aNewtonian world, physics world,
where things were matter andparticles, to wave and energy.
(03:12):
So this is the quantum field,the quantum.
You know people talk about thequantum field and the quantum
mind, and quantum is sort oflike a little overused because
people, I don't think, even knowwhat it means.
But it does mean that there's aholistic approach to
consciousness, that we're partof this bigger picture where
(03:32):
we're not separate.
If you're looking at Newtonianphysics and world, everything is
separate and and and.
The parts make the whole, butthey but the part.
The whole is greater than theparts make the whole, but the
whole is greater than the parts,in a kind of quantum physics
way of understanding reality.
So I think, in general, thebird's eye view of the coming
(03:54):
age we're moving into is thatwe'll understand energy and
vibration much more.
It'll be more a tool of socialexchange.
You'll vibrate towards thepeople you have a frequency
match to.
I mean alternative healing'salways been about vibration,
(04:14):
though, because we wannaovercome the mechanistic Western
idea of medicine, which isstill useful at some point.
So what we need?
But the pendulum has been sofar the other way into just this
materialistic, mechanisticworldview that we need the
energetic, wave-likeunderstanding of what reality is
.
But that's not it either.
(04:36):
We, you know it's like the leftand right brain.
We need to be whole brainbeings, but we've been so left
brain logical that we need to,and this is what this time is,
with lots of experiments inconsciousness.
I just listened to the womanwho's putting out the telepathy
tapes.
Have you heard about that?
(04:56):
No, oh, that is a breakthrough.
If you want a bird's eyethrough what's coming.
What was her name?
Diane?
I just seen a couple ofinterviews where but it's so
brilliant she, she looked atautistic children and realized
that some of the severe autisticchildren who couldn't even
speak, were actually telepathic.
(05:16):
They actually would read theminds of their parents If they
were, if their parents werelooking at.
Let's say there's one exampleof parents looking at an eye
chart and the child is looking,asked to read the eye chart.
They'd read the chart throughthe eyes of their parents,
through the mind of theirparents, because they sometimes
(05:38):
couldn't see it on their own.
But there there's this hugebreakthrough in telepathy, esp.
I teach remote viewing.
So this awareness that there'ssomething about our minds that
transcend time and space, thatis the next frontier.
It's all consciousness, right?
(05:59):
People are just sayingconsciousness doesn't mean
anything until you understandwhat is the application of
consciousness.
Because people just usingconsciousness like a substitute
for God, and that's great, it'sall conscious, it's all God,
whatever you want to say.
But how do you apply it?
And you can apply it in remotesensing, remote healing, remote
(06:19):
viewing, all sorts of ways ofsending the local mind into the
non-local field.
Does that make sense?
Yuli (06:30):
Yes, absolutely so.
Alan (06:32):
that's the exciting part of what's coming.
Go ahead, yes.
Yuli (06:35):
Yes, and since you mentioned application, I would
love to also get yourperspective how that could be
applied by healers directly intheir practices.
Alan (06:47):
The idea of remote.
Well, people are doing remotehealings all the time.
But if you're a healer, I wouldrecommend taking one of my
remote healing courses becauseyou could see, you learn to see
inside someone's body.
You become a sort of medicalmedium.
I mean, you can't anyone candevelop that skill and it's
(07:10):
getting out of the way andletting yourself receive the
part where you set yourintention on.
So the way I teach remoteviewing is like there's a target
.
Let's say I have someone.
I'm saying, okay, where's thisperson?
I give you their name, you tellme where they're at.
You just set your intentions,like you set your GPS, and then
(07:31):
you get your left brain out ofthe way and you receive it's
receiving.
The right brain is the feminine, it's the receiver part.
The left brain, which has beenoverdeveloped, is the sender.
It's like boom, boom, boom.
It's the aggressive part andthen this other part receives
(07:52):
the message.
All you have to do is set theGPS, which is your intent.
That's how I teach it and thenyou sit back and you get your
mind, your monkey mind, out ofthe way and you receive the
images.
So when I've been working onpeople, I also do body work.
I would come to like a tensepart in that person's shoulder
(08:14):
or something.
And then I just tune in and askthe body I guess body talks a
little bit about that, ok,what's this about?
And then I say, would saysomething like like, would get
like, okay, your father hit youwhen you were 10 years old.
It would just come to me andthey would say, well, how did
you know?
I said, well, your body told methat and, like you know,
sometimes I'm a little off, butI just let that come to me and
(08:40):
you get feedback oh no, itwasn't 10, it was this or
whatever.
It's like you know.
But you, you know the universeis talking to us, if we can only
listen.
So I would say, if you'rehealing, you're already a little
intuitive.
You also, you already want togive somebody something.
That's transcendence of themechanistic mode of behaving,
(09:04):
and then you let yourself feelinto it and you receive messages
.
It takes a little practice.
You're not always right becausepeople get their own stuff in
the way, but everyone can dothis.
Everyone can do remote viewing.
Everyone has right brainfacilities because it's the
right brain and they learnedthis from the autistic kids that
(09:25):
are much more open because it'snot, I would say, confused with
all this logical left brainlinear way of being.
So when that's out of the way,you're actually in the infinite
field and when you can be inthat space, when you're working
with people, you can get amessage.
I would always check it outwith the person because
sometimes with people you canget a message.
I mean, I would always check itout with the person because
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sometimes you know, you just saya lot of things but you can
actually look at someone's bodyit's also what I do in class and
say, okay, and this personlooked pretty normal, nothing.
And say, okay, where's thisperson having pain or where are
the?
Is there an injury or something?
And people get it because thekey is notice what you notice.
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That was actually a term that apoet said, but I use that in
healing Notice what you knowwhat stands out.
Oh, the left shoulder seemsfine, but why am I looking at
this?
So you just use your intuitivesense and apply it and you know
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fine tune, that it takespractice.
You know, it's like everyonecan play the piano, but the good
people take practice.
So you have to practice what?
And it has to do with thisnon-local mind that we have
access to take practice how thefield is talking to you, the
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exchange with the infinite whichwe are.
But we're trapped in the localunderstanding of the mind and we
can access the non-local.
So there's a big revolution inthat.
The telepathy tapes are justgoing to really change reality.
Look for that too.
And lots of confirmation.
I mean I'm teaching remoteviewing like every month there's
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somebody who wants to or class.
I just did seven semesters ofteaching of these classes.
I might do something on theshift network.
So people are interested inthis non-local reality.
But you can't explain that withthe ways we understand reality.
How can you see what's not here?
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What sense do you use?
It's not your five senses, butbecause we're infinite beings,
divine beings, beyond time andspace, we can tap into that
field.
It's what Joe Dispenza is alsoteaching.
Lots of people are talkingabout this, but okay, well, you
mentioned Joe.
Yuli (11:48):
I'm going to his retreat in like a couple of weeks, so he
is definitely one of myfavorites and this is exactly
the message that resonates somuch, and I think I love also
that you mentioned this ideathat everyone can develop this
telepathy.
And we're seeing, definitely onour platform, you know, having
thousands of healers from allover the world what are we
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seeing is that energy healingand intuitive reading becoming
such a prominent modality thathealers are not just using on
its own using on its own but youwill see, like the Reiki
practitioners or Chinesemedicine practitioners, they add
that to their list ofmodalities because it's becoming
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one of those, likesupplementary skills that are so
crucial for healers.
Alan (12:34):
Definitely, I have to say, about Joe.
We had the same teacher, me andJoe.
We were.
We were at this mystery school,the Ramtha school, together.
I'd known him for about 20years, before he ever went
public.
He would teach you know aboutthe Ramtha School together.
I'd known him for about 20years before he ever went public
.
He would teach you know aboutthe Ramtha School.
So I was that.
I was there for I guess 25years.
He was there and you know I Iknew him and now he's a big shot
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, which is great and he deservesthat because he's really
helping a lot of people.
But I knew him.
Yuli (13:03):
When I'm just kidding, no, I know I found your interview
with him that I think wasprobably taped on a very old
recorder.
Alan (13:12):
But yes, it was yeah, because you know, no one knew
him when he first came out,except I knew him and I knew he
had this amazing gift to reallymotivate people, to tune into
people.
I mean, he used to givelectures at the Ramtha School,
so you know, we'd open thelecture with hello geniuses, you
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know.
And so I saw that evolution andI'm really happy that he is
influencing and helping so manypeople because that he's
passionate about it.
It's his life and he's, youknow, evolving the teachings all
the time.
So I'm glad you're going tolearn something there.
Yuli (13:51):
It's going to be my fourth retreat, and every one of them
was different.
Alan (13:56):
Yeah, he keeps learning new stuff.
Did you see the movie theSource?
Did you see that?
Yes, of course, right.
So yeah, I think.
But it's the same idea that I'mtalking about, but it's more.
I feel like we're going moreinto the unknown.
Maybe Joe's doing that now Ihaven't heard his lectures in a
while but it's like we're hereto what Ramtha said and what I
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go by.
Maybe we're here asincarnational beings to make
known the unknown.
Do you know what that means?
What does it mean to you?
Yuli (14:31):
Well, joe talks a lot about the unknown and it's this.
You know, people call it somany different names, like they
could be the field, it's thevoid there's so many.
Alan (14:39):
We're here to make known the unknown, you know.
Yuli (14:43):
Well, it's connecting in the field and basically losing
the sense of the reality andworking with the fields and the
energies and that's why I thinkthat you mentioned the beginning
of the vibrations are suddenlybecoming important and more
people are sensitive to that.
You know, I'm talking to peoplethat are completely not in the
spiritual space and they say Istarted feeling vibrations all
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of a sudden.
Alan (15:06):
Right.
No, you're right about themaking known.
We're here to bring in newinformation that is in the field
and that's the potential eachone of us has and you know it is
about that's the new language.
Of course it started in the 60s.
The first time I heard thatBeach Boys song, good Vibrations
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, that was a paradigm shift forme.
That was like it's an old song,I think it was whatever 68.
But it's like that was like themainstreaming of this whole
idea of vibrations.
And now, now it's.
Yes, it was a song, wasinteresting, but now it's a
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reality.
You know you, you vibe with yourtribe, you know those are the
things that so yeah, and it's.
And I think in relationshipsthat's really.
I've had to learn that the hardway.
But you know, the relationshipit's really.
I've had to learn that the hardway.
But the relationship it's notjust a pretty picture.
You want to really be on thesame wavelength as the other
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person and you know it doesn'tmatter how they look or what
they say or whatever it's like.
Is the vibration there?
Because if it's not there, Imean I don't see how it could
work out.
But you know, and the same thingwith healers and clients, in a
sense.
I mean, when I was doingacupuncture I really and this
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was just my problem I couldn'twork on anyone I really didn't
connect with, like I couldn'ttreat.
That.
It's like I wasn't interestedin treating them.
Maybe a good healer, it doesn'tmatter, they always find a way.
But for me I was a littleparticular.
Maybe that's my problem ingeneral, I don't know.
But I think we can raise peopleup.
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We can get them to a statewhere they do kind of drop out
of the lower self, the lowerself-indulgent sort of ways,
egoic ways, because you knowthat will bring people down.
And even about remote viewingand all that remote stuff, you
have to transcend your ego mindif you're really going to tap
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into the non-local field.
That's part of what we're hereto do, so amazing.
Yuli (17:29):
Well, I have so many follow-up questions from this
Well, I'm just curious.
You know we mentioned some ofthe teachers and I mentioned
some of your teachings as well,and I think what a lot of
practitioners that I see thatare trying to navigate this idea
.
Okay, what do I teach when, how?
How do I grow?
How do I scale?
What do I offer?
(17:50):
You seem kind of, through yourcareer, tried different types of
offerings right, because youknow you evolved, I'm sure, as a
person, the customers, theclients involved evolved a lot
your students.
So how do you navigate thisbusiness in having this
longevity right Also, withoutkind of like losing interest,
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but also finding what is theformat that's right for you
today?
Alan (18:17):
Well, first of all, your interests may change over time.
Like I studied acupuncture forfour years and then I worked in
that field for a while, but Iwasn't really interested in
continuing that because peoplewere just coming to me with
lifestyle problems.
They want to lose weight, but Isaid so, change your diet.
They didn't want to changetheir diet, so it's like, well,
I can't help you.
(18:38):
This is, there's no magicbullet, that that.
So I got a little bored withactual those types of sessions.
Of course it's great to helppeople and and you can in any
type of modality, but but so myinterests change.
I went more into public speakingand research and writing these
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different books, which was moreinteresting.
And then, of course, ifsomeone's in pain, I still like
to do body work.
It's kind of fun for me becauseI that's where I started, as a
body worker I start.
I was in the film business butthere was this producer who was
really overweight, very, youknow, four or 500 pounds, and he
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was in pain all the time and hejust asked me to to, I don't
know, rub his shoulder orwhatever.
I just help him out because andI realized that I could go
underneath the fat and gettowards the muscle which was
very strained because ofcarrying all that weight.
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And so I developed thistechnique of like I can massage
people through winter coats nowbecause I can go through the top
layers and get to thisunderlying tissue that has the
tension.
So that actually did get me intoacupuncture because I wanted to
learn more about the body andall that stuff.
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And it was all really great tolearn about the meridians and
all the different meridians.
Most people just know theregular meridians, but there's
the ancestral meridians or thepsychic meridians, there's the
tendomuscular meridian.
I mean, the meridian system isso complex and so holistic unto
itself that it's really a greatfield of knowledge.
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So I forgot what was the restof your question.
I went off on that.
Yuli (20:32):
I went off with you, but I think we're talking about your
journey from all those differentmodalities and teaching and
formats of teaching, and how doyou find?
Alan (20:42):
Yeah.
So I want to say I say yes toeverything.
When, especially, I wasstarting to research all this
stuff and someone asked me tospeak somewhere, and you know I
would say yes, no matter whatsize of the conference, no
matter who they were.
So you know, I'd speak to twopeople or I'd speak to, I think,
as many as 1,500 people.
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I just said yes, okay, someonesaid, can you do this?
And you know, and then I didadult education.
I talked about acupuncture andhealing and these people who
really weren't interested in itinitially.
But you know, I talked to thembecause they needed someone to
give a talk.
So I would just say yes.
(21:24):
Just say yes is my big advice.
If you really want to build afollowing or a platform, just
just say yes to whatever comesalong and cause everything.
You don't know where thatopportunity is going to lead and
even if it's, you're talking totwo people.
That was practice for me.
Okay, I could try some newmaterial out here on two people
(21:44):
that you know may work in abigger crowd, or you know it was
fun.
And you know, yeah, no onewants to talk to like one or two
people, but it's, it was reallygood to do that because all the
practices of speaking and eventreatments, whatever you're
doing, if it's you know oneperson, then okay, you know
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you're telling one person a week.
So if you're doing a reallygood job and focus on them and
give them the kind of energythey need, they're going to tell
somebody and it's like sothere's nothing too minimal or
small, especially if you're juststarting out to go for, because
it all bears fruit in a goodway.
(22:29):
You must have heard that before.
Yuli (22:34):
Yes, that's incredible advice.
And then my next question ishow do you go from those two
people you're speaking to to90,000 subscribers on YouTube
that you have today?
Alan (22:45):
Well, you know, when I got tired of acupuncture actually
when I was studying acupunctureit was in Santa Fe and it was
rooming with this guy who had apublic access program there in
Santa Fe, a public access TV,and I had done video in New York
.
That's how I met that producer,because I was doing like just
very boring productionassistance work.
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But then I was in Santa Fe andI started to do some video
interviews with people.
So, you know, when I came backto New York after Santa Fe, I
wanted to continue interviewingpeople.
So I started a public access inNew York show and that was
before YouTube, that was in the90 show and that was before
YouTube.
That was in the 90s.
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And I had this girlfriend saidwhat are you doing with all
those interviews?
You don't even have enoughairtime to broadcast them.
And then she's the one who saidto me in 2006, oh, I know what
you can do with all thoseinterviews.
They're starting this onlineplatform called YouTube that you
can upload all those shows.
And I said, okay, I guessthat's why I was doing them all,
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because so I had all thismaterial right in the early days
of YouTube and people weretrying to get material and do so
.
I had hundreds of shows to that.
I still have more to convertfrom VHS and mini DV, and so I
have all this material and Ihave posted a lot of that from
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the 90s and even the 80s maybe,on YouTube.
So, yeah, I was one of theearly creators on YouTube, even
before Google had bought YouTubeand was just two guys in their
garage doing uploads, and so,yeah, I mean I don't have as
much subscribers as a lot ofpeople, but I have maybe more
than some, and it's building,and I'm always looking through
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my archives for more stuff.
Like you know, I haveinterviews with Bud Hopkins.
You know who he is.
He was an early not early, buthe was a big UFO researcher that
was responsible for bringingnew ideas into that field.
Yuli (24:49):
So those get a lot of airplay because you know he's
not around anymore and havethese interviews with him, and
so that's an incredible assetjust to be able to have those
interviews, like you said, thatno one else has, and you're the
one who has them on YouTube.
Alan (25:05):
Right, you know, actually, gaia, I just, yeah, I'm trying
to make some deals with Gaiabecause you know I'm a historian
sort of.
I mean if you see my apartmentit's full of books and so it's
like the history of like thespiritual movement from.
I guess I kind of came into itin the early 1980s, so that's
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the last.
What is that?
40 years, every little nuanceand new fad and new healing
modality and latest greatestteacher or snake oil salesman or
whatever.
I've tracked it and you knowit's kind of fun to see the
evolution of this industry, in asense you know, and see what
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modalities are popular now andwhat have gone out of favor and
what's coming in and where allthat going, because it's its own
history.
It's like collecting baseballstatistics.
It's like, oh yeah, who'shitting the most home runs now?
Yuli (26:05):
Amazing.
I love that.
And so any predictions formodalities that you think are
really going to see on the rise?
Alan (26:14):
Well, there are these a lot more.
Well, I have to say, there aremore like energy, machine type
things which, like brainwavethings, are coming out or I
don't know.
I don't like the machine stuffas much as the natural.
I mean, you know, in a way it'sthere is nothing new.
People would put their hands.
(26:36):
If you see all those oldEgyptian hieroglyphics with
people's hands up, they weresending energy, you know.
So I think, though, thepotential of the human mind to
be non-local and send andreceive energies.
There are some new, I guessmachines or therapy.
(26:56):
I mean, I like the float tank,you know, I know that's not new,
but I like floating in the darkand weightlessness, where you
are becoming pure consciousness.
That's one of my favoritethings to do.
But yeah, I'm going to be atthe Conscious Life Expo in LA
and there's always, like thelatest, greatest thing, people
sending vibrations throughtoothbrushes that resonate with
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the teeth, the frequencies ofthe teeth.
That's kind of new.
I just interviewed this reallygreat woman, bianca Ruling, who
has these frequencies for everypart of your body and every
illness or whatever you can have.
There's frequencies that cancorrect that.
That goes back to Rife, ofcourse, and that's not new the
(27:42):
Rife generator frequencies thatcan correct that.
That goes back to Rife, ofcourse, and that's not new the
Rife generator frequencies thatreally do work.
I mean there's resonance andfrequencies.
Oh yeah, I did meet somebodywho's been able to translate the
frequencies of nutrients intolight and put that light into
the body.
So there's a lot of new trendswith the translations of
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frequencies in differentmodalities, like translating
light frequencies into sound ornutrient, the frequencies of
nutrients or different colorsinto sound or light, and I mean
that's been around but I thinkthey're fine tuning it now.
But you know, those are easy towork with in a way and they're
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very beneficial.
When your body resonates,everything's resonant.
So your heart, lung, liver,kidney, they all have a
different resonant frequency.
And when you this is guy Mathonfrom England would calculate
the frequencies of differentorgans and then broadcast the
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organs with the perfect kind ofhealing frequencies and it would
have a physical effect on thebody, that's also been around
for a while, but now I thinkpeople are doing that more
through computer generated sound.
So sound and light frequenciesare as popular as ever and
they're all good.
You know there's some red lightdevices that are better than
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others because it has extrafrequencies added to it.
I think you can find the onethat I like at the Grand Canyon
Foundation.
This guy, joss Daniels, hasinvented these red light beds
that you lay under and you getall these nutritional
frequencies as well as the redlight frequencies.
(29:32):
So I don't know.
There's so much that's amazing.
Yuli (29:35):
It's a great list and I got to tell you the frequency
medicine to me.
I couldn't agree more.
I've experienced those thatcome through water, which is
another field, that they chargethe water with certain
frequencies and I've seenmiracles Personally with my
family.
I interviewed one of thepractitioners, andrea Kandy, in
one of my other episodes, ifanyone wants to listen.
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But it's a whole new frontierand I'm surprised how much not
talked about because I don'tknow what the reason is.
Alan (30:05):
But Well, you can charge your water with your own
frequency.
This is what we used to do atthe Ramda school.
You hold the glass up to yourforehead and you which is what
Emoto demonstrated you put thewhat you want to manifest into
the water and you drink thewater and it has to have a
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resonant effect, you know.
So frequencies are huge and asthis whole vibrational
revolution comes more and morepopular and known, we will be
working more with frequenciesanyway, and I think don't deny
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the power of your ownfrequencies to, like Emoto
showed, to change crystallineshapes, and so that's something.
One more thing I really thinkis great is hydrogen water.
Do you know about the holyhydrogen Like hydrogen.
I interviewed this guy.
He called himself Mr Hydrogenbut he cured his body with
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hydrogen.
And there's something calledholy hydrogen water.
It's a device where you just itputs six parts per million
device where you just it putssix parts per million pieces of
hydrogen into water, so you'retaking in more hydrogen.
You know, hydrogen is the firstelement, it's the first thing
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from source.
They don't know where hydrogencomes from.
Of course it comes from atomsand all that, but where's all
that come from?
So hydrogen from hydrogen.
The universe, our matter,universe, the field, everything
you know around you, was created.
So taking hydrogen into yourbody is connecting you back to
the original source.
And the other thing hydrogendoes you know what is?
(31:54):
H2o Right, the extra hydrogencombines with the free radical
oxygen to flush out, you know,free radicals out of your body.
So I recommend the HolyHydrogen Machine.
You could use my code I thinkit's A-L-A-N code for a discount
if you want to.
And they are made modeled afterthe Lords.
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The water at Lords.
That was a big healing miraclewater at Lords, france, where
the apparitions of Mary appearedand all that.
And I do think there'ssomething to that.
There's a magic that happens atthose apparitions sites.
So the water at Lords wasanalyzed and they realized it
had this extra hydrogen in it.
So the Japanese created thisdevice that modeled itself after
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the water at Lourdes and peopleare having great healing from
the holy hydrogen water and I'vebeen using it and you can also
breathe it in.
You can breathe the hydrogen in, but drinking the water, I
think, actually goes deeper.
So there's a water revolution.
There's that woman.
What's her name?
Veda Austin, from New Zealand.
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She's a big water.
Have you heard of her, vedaAustin.
She's a great speaker about thepower of water and you know
water is the universal solvent,so water's big these days.
People charging water, peopleand charge it yourself, holding
your hand love your water as youput it in your body and of
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course you want good qualitywater.
You don't want like awfulpolluted water or chemicals in
it.
You want the best water you canto charge it.
And you know you filter yourwater.
I mean if you're in New Yorkyou definitely need a filter for
your water, or most cities, butif you have water from like an
underground well, then you'regiving yourself extra minerals
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and vitality.
It's not just the water, h2o,it's the vitality, it's the
structure of water.
So water is a big thing.
But that's been also beenaround for many years.
The whole water energy thing,you know, but that's still big.
And I think water vibration,all that light sound, they're
all.
They never go out of style.
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So they're big.
Yuli (34:16):
And they're all connected to the quantum right.
Alan (34:18):
Looping back, Well, yes, I guess they are, but you know,
those are grounding things.
Light sound water bodyembodiment yes.
Yuli (34:32):
Switching back, no, well, thank you for this incredible
overview and I think you gave somany great ideas to a lot of
our listeners.
But switching back a little bitto your career and this
incredible longevity that you'vebuilt and I know it's been done
over many decades, but it seemslike you connected with some
really, really incredible peopleon this journey and I know part
of it probably was being so inthe early days when it was still
(34:54):
a small industry.
But you continue to just be.
You know the I don't know whatthe word for it, but I just
remember I went, I came, to myfirst New Life Expo in Brooklyn.
I was a couple of years ago andthis guy just appeared and, you
know, offered his services as myguide and, and you know, he was
walking around and showing meall these people and saying, oh,
(35:15):
this is Al Stifel.
Do you know who he is?
He has, you know, almost100,000 YouTube subscribers,
he's so-and-so.
So, anyway, you seem to besomebody that people know and
recognize, some sort of like afixture in the scene.
What is your?
How do you manage thisincredible network?
How do you, you know, grow it?
How do you maintain it?
(35:36):
Well, I'll tell you.
Alan (35:38):
There's one simple answer for me, anyway.
I am constantly curious.
So I don't think aboutmaintaining a network.
I don't think about you know, Ithink about, oh, this person.
What is this person sayingsomething new?
I'm like a talent scout, themaster, and you learn everything
(36:01):
that you can from these prettyamazing researchers.
And that's why me and Joe wereat the Rampha school, like you
know.
That was pretty amazing wisdomfor its time.
And so I'm still seeking outnew life and new civilizations.
You know, as they say in StarTrek, but no, there's so many
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out new life and newcivilizations.
You know, as they say in StarTrek, but no, there's so many.
And of course, that was a littlebit before the Internet the 90s
, 80s, 90s and it's like wow,you can just get so caught up in
research.
Now.
There's so many interestingthings going on.
So I go to a lot of the expossee who's new, see who's there.
So I'm just and I'm alwaysnetworking people too, I'm
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always connecting the dots.
Oh, you should see this personhere.
I mean, if people areinterested, I'll offer that.
Or this person connects to thatperson and I don't know it's.
You're just taking it all in.
I don't know, you're justtaking it all in and I like to
review what I've learned and useit in my own practice.
(37:07):
Life lectures Connect the dotsis, I guess, one of my favorite
pastimes.
So I just do that because it'sfun to make those connections
for people and it kind of bringsthe world together a little bit
more.
So how do I do it?
I do it because I have fundoing it.
(37:28):
That's a good answer.
Yuli (37:32):
Amazing and I guess we can't talk to you without
mentioning the UFOs and how yougot into that space from you
know, going from acupuncture,writing books and all of that.
I'm sure there's a story.
Alan (37:47):
Yeah, it's actually in my book If you get a chance to read
chapter seven.
But let's see how I was alwaysinterested as part of this
adventure of the unknown, alwaysinterested in space.
I wanted to be an astronautgrowing up and I was just at the
NASA Space Center in Florida,which was a little disappointing
(38:07):
because we weren't out in space.
But no, I was interested inthese way out stuff.
I'm an Aquarian, you know I'man Aquarian, you know, born
under the sign of Aquarius Sun.
Do you know about astrology alittle bit?
Yuli (38:20):
Yes.
Alan (38:22):
Sun, my Aquarian sun is in the 11th house of Aquarius Sun.
Do you know about astrology alittle bit?
Yes, sun, my Aquarian sun, isin the 11th house of Aquarius
and has this opposition toUranus, which is also very
Aquarian as we move intoAquarian.
So all those Aquarian idealsare something that I'm really
excited about.
And UFOs, this unknown reality.
(38:42):
I think this is the mostexciting thing.
Yeah, we talked about healingmodalities, but the fact that
people and the government andinsiders are saying we're not
alone in the universe, thatthere's something else to see
here, that the world is biggerthan we thought, I think that is
the most exciting thing toinvestigate on the planet.
(39:05):
And what makes it even moreexciting is that nobody has any
answers.
It's like this is an unknownfield, it's like a whole new
territory.
I mean, the government doeshave some answers.
They probably do have crashretrieval, they do probably have
bodies of aliens, becausethat's been acknowledged, at
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least off the record somehow.
But they're just looking tomake weapons and I think the
whole reason they're not makingany progress is because the ETs
are not interested in lettinggovernment make weapons from
this technology, you know.
So I think they're really here,whoever they are, because I
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don't think we know People sayPleiadians or Syrians.
I don't think you can makethose general statements like
that because we're not educatedenough to there's something here
for sure, and they'redefinitely from somewhere else.
I think I'm pretty positive inmaking that claim.
(40:09):
So I just became obsessedbecause, yes, about my story, I
did have an experience oftraveling cross country where I
think I did have, like you cancall it an abduction or
something type of experiencewhere it's like I was into it
before that.
But then once I realized thatoh no, this may have happened to
(40:31):
me.
I was, as they say in thebusiness, sucked down the rabbit
hole and became obsessed.
You know when something happensto you that you can't explain
and I still can't explain it.
You know like this missing timeand this mark on my body and
then this weird dreams.
But so when something happens,like even in trauma, when
(40:54):
something happens, people do twothings at the same time they,
they, they pull back, but theybecome obsessed.
You know time, they pull back,but they become obsessed and in
a way, there is a bit of atrauma involved in the contact
experience because it's so faroutside what we call normal and
ordinary that there's no placeto put this.
(41:16):
So that's why I really enjoytalking about it and speaking
about it and writing about it,because it's like we're here.
Like Joe Dispenza says, make newneural pathways of the unknown,
that people can cognize thesenew realities and then recognize
it as it's put out to thepublic.
(41:36):
Right, you can't recognizeanything you haven't cognized.
So part of this field, thephenomena, is cognizing new
realities.
There's no place for ETs orwhatever these things are in our
world unless we carve theneural nets of understanding to
make a place for them.
(41:56):
And actually Joe's doing thatnow in those workshops.
He's talking about the beingsthere and all that.
Yuli (42:02):
So but I've seen them.
He's not just talking aboutthem.
I've seen them.
Alan (42:06):
You've seen them in Joe's workshops.
Yes, what did you see?
Yuli (42:11):
Well he works with.
I think there's different typesof beings that accompany.
Especially it's on those bigretreats.
When you have 2000 plus people,what?
Alan (42:19):
did you see?
Yuli (42:21):
Blue beings white beings.
Alan (42:23):
How did you see them?
Did they physically show up toyou?
Yuli (42:26):
Well, you can.
I don't think in that world theterm physical is appropriate,
but there was definitely.
They were as real as a physicalperson would look like.
Did you see them?
With your eyes open or closed?
No eyes closed, and you cansense their energies.
And you know, when you havemultiple people reporting on the
same vision, you kind of.
(42:47):
That's what creates reality,right?
Alan (42:50):
Right.
Well, that's, I think, whatthis whole UFO phenomenon is
about.
It's about a planetary shiftwhere all of us will be able to
sense these beings, shift whereall of us will be able to sense
these beings.
And I'm happy Joe is working inthat field.
Because when I firstinterviewed Joe, I asked him
about ETs.
He goes well, that's not reallyin my field.
(43:13):
And I said and then I saw himlast year at some conference I
said, joe remember I asked youbecause I gave him a copy of my
book.
I said you said you didn't wantto talk about this and now
you're talking about it.
He goes well, it wasn't myexperience when you asked me
those questions, which is honestyou know it is yeah, so I think
it was a big leap for him toactually acknowledge that,
(43:36):
because it took the work to awhole other level.
I don't even think he mentionsthat in the source film, does?
Yuli (43:41):
he no, no, no.
I don't think he publiclyacknowledges that.
Alan (43:46):
Well, he's been ultimately talking about it, but it's the
talk among the students.
Yuli (43:49):
If you talk to many of his especially advanced students
who have been to many retreatsand I think he mentions it
during the retreat and I likehis explanation and I think it
makes a lot of sense that youhave to raise your vibration to
a certain level to be able tosee and interact with them.
Alan (44:07):
That's what the whole phenomena is trying to do for
the planet.
You've heard about the droneissues in New Jersey right,
right, I was going to ask you,yes.
Well, I think, because there'sthe machines and then there's
these orbs and these plasmathings.
So what I think, and I don'tknow, because the government is
(44:28):
saying, well, we don't know whatthey are, which is a big lie,
because I think they do.
But I think there are these ETcraft coming, coming and in
order to kind of confuse people,the Pentagon has put up their
drone craft to intersperse withthese ET craft and just to kind
(44:51):
of confuse the matter a littlebit, because they don't want to
completely give over thenarrative to these other beings
just yet, but narrative to theseother beings just yet.
But they're showing up becausenow people are aware that there
is something out there and thatit is a shift in vibration.
This is how people do CE5s.
(45:13):
Have you heard about the CE5practice?
It's close encounters of thefifth kind where instead of
they're making contact with you,you're making contact with them
.
So you're calling out to themthe good ones and I think most
of them are pretty good, youknow to come to you.
So most of the time peoplewould wait for them to show up,
(45:35):
but now we're sending out thesignal for them to appear to us,
and so there's a lot happening.
There's so many moving parts inthis particular genre of New Age
awakening that that's why it isso exciting.
You know, I think they are here, maybe like Joe is doing, to
(45:59):
raise our vibration, to raise itup by because when you're in
the presence of these beings atleast in my experience, and
they've just appeared in dreamstates, and actually Daryl Anka
talks about this too.
You know who Daryl Anka is.
He channels the being Bashar.
I've interviewed him about this.
When you're in the presence ofthese beings, your vibration is
(46:22):
shifted and unless you canremain lucid, conscious, aware,
their field is so much morepowerful that you just go
unconscious.
You can't maintainself-awareness in the field of
these beings unless you practicelucidity, lucid consciousness,
(46:48):
because it's like trying to getWi-Fi on an AM radio we don't
have the bandwidth, but we havethe potential for the bandwidth.
It's just that we haven't gotthose bandwidths in place.
So when these beings show up,the idea is to maintain an
altered state of consciousness.
There's something called the Ozeffect among many experiences
(47:10):
have you heard about that?
Where reality shifts.
It's like these beings show upand suddenly well, I've had this
to me the air looks still,everything is just still and
quiet, and there's a differentessence.
Some people get really, reallytired at that.
Some people feel this vibrationthrough their body.
(47:32):
I mean, even Gary Nolan if youknow who he is talked about this
vibration.
He's very mainstream scientist,but he's had these experiences.
He talked about this vibration.
He's very mainstream scientist,but he's had these experiences.
He talked about this vibrationthrough his bike.
So I think, in general, whatwe're talking about with the
healing and the UFOs and allthat, and what's happening in
2025, it's just my feeling isthat the vibrational field of
(47:55):
the planet is definitelyshifting.
We are putting the clutchesdown and we are on the gears and
we are moving from third tofourth to fifth and that's what
we're feeling.
The world post-COVID isstranger than ever and you know,
(48:17):
so much has changed.
I mean the fires happening nowin California.
That's really upsetting.
It's upsetting to see,upsetting a lot of world, but
everything is changing and it'snot fun sometimes, but it's, you
know, and it's awful for thatto happen to so many people.
(48:37):
But there's no but and I alsothink the world is not the same
as it was, you know, five yearsago.
And this whole idea of feelingand vibration and frequency in
energy, medicine, in UFOs andpolitics and planetary
frequencies.
(48:58):
It's all about the same thingin different formats.
Yuli (49:05):
Well, that is an incredible summary and
prediction at the same time.
I couldn't choose a betterspeaker, a better guest to kick
off our year and put it all inperspective.
Alan, thank you so much forthis wonderful conversation.
I feel like we could go on andon, and I would love to have you
back anytime, anytime.
Alan (49:27):
I'd love to talk about remote viewing a little more,
because once you get that skillyou could use it for anything
and you know it's a practicealso.
You have to really.
But we are infinite beings.
That's my kind of final comment.
We are forever infinite beings.
That's my kind of final comment.
We are forever infinite beings.
And when we realize that andfunny thing is, the CIA, by
(49:50):
wanting to spy, compete with theRussian psychic spying program,
develop remote viewing, whichof course the masters and
mystics have known forever, butnow it's become mainstream they
kind of the CIA indirectlyintroduced us to our
transcendent forever beingnessin a sort of indirect way.
(50:13):
But so what I'm saying is yeah,I'll come back and talk about
how each of us are actuallyexisting beyond time and space,
and remote viewing absolutelyproves that to be true.
Yuli (50:26):
Incredible.
Well, I definitely want to takeone of your classes and become
one of those experts and again,thank you so much for all your
wisdom.
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