May 8, 2024 • 43 mins
Embark on a transformative journey as we welcome Ashley Brothers, a motivational speaker, spiritual counselor, teacher, and intuitive healer with a passion for ancient and modern healing techniques. Trained in psychic mediumship, journeying, soul retrieval, divination, oracle work, dying consciously, chakra illumination, reiki, massage, craniosacral therapy, sound therapy, pranic healing, reflexology, and countless shamanic initiations and ceremonies, she seamlessly blends quantum physics with age-old spiritual wisdom to unlock profound personal growth.
Throughout our conversation, we shed light on the art of shamanic intention setting, likening it to dialing into the universe's frequency to manifest precise outcomes. Ashley unravels the power of interpreting energetic and spiritual messages, a skill honed through years of dedication to her craft.
Protecting your vibrational frequency is akin to safeguarding your personal harmony in a world buzzing with digital distractions. In a candid discussion, we navigate the challenges of social media and its tendency to consume our attention unwittingly, urging a mindful approach to our digital diets. The significance of the company we keep and the content we consume takes center stage, as we equip you with strategies for curating an environment conducive to higher vibrations and well-being. Cultivating discernment in our interactions both online and offline emerges as a crucial practice for anyone on a journey towards inner peace and empowerment.
Finally, the episode illuminates the magnetic allure of self-belief and its pivotal role in healing and personal development, especially for light workers and those called to serve others. We explore the symbiotic relationship between confidence, passion, and the ability to inspire and connect with others, threading in insights from quantum physics to emphasize the 'as above, so below' principle. Join us to unlock the door to a future of healing and elevated consciousness.
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Yuli (00:04):
Welcome to the Healist Podcast, where we inspire and
guide healers through businessexpansion.
We give voice to incrediblyabundant healers to share their
stories.
We dive into the quantum fieldto unlock the energies of
conscious creation.
We also develop digital toolsto help you grow, which you can
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find on HealLesscom.
I'm your host, Yuli, and I'mgrateful you chose to join this
space.
Now let's go deep.
Hello, dear friends, welcome toanother amazing and exciting
episode of the HealLess podcast.
We have a special treat todayAshley Brothers.
She is a motivational speaker,spiritual counselor, teacher and
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intuitive healer with a passionfor ancient and modern healing
techniques.
Based in Oregon, ashleyconducts in-person workshops and
healings, as well as remotesessions for clients worldwide.
Her unique approach blendstechniques from diverse cultures
, merging science withspirituality to access alternate
state of consciousness forhealing and empowerment.
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Trained in psychic mediumship,journeying, soul retrieval,
divination, oracle work, dyingconsciously, chakra illumination
, reiki, massage, craniosacraltherapy, sound therapy, pranic
healing, reflexology andcountless shamanic initiations
and ceremonies, ashley's journeyspans over two decades of
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profound spiritual explorationand growth.
You can tell why I'm so excitedto talk to her.
And just a quick note just acouple of days ago I actually
had a session with Ashley doingmy own shamanic journeying and
healing and just really profoundconversation for over four
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hours, which is probably thelongest healing session I've
done.
It's been incredible.
So I have, I think, a reallyspecial perspective and I cannot
wait for this conversationbecause, as we were doing our
session, we got deep intoconversation about quantum
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physics and spirituality andthis topic just emerged
naturally and, as you knowanyone who listens to the
podcast.
Quantum is my field that I loveexploring, and I love even more
meeting people in this spiritualspace that are as passionate
about quantum physics as I am.
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So, ashley, you're a gift tothis podcast and to our
listeners.
Welcome.
And if you'd like to to thispodcast and to our listeners,
welcome.
And if you'd like to set yourintention, please do so.
Ashley (02:50):
Thank you, yuli.
That was a really beautifulintroduction and I feel really
grateful and appreciative.
My intention for this podcastis to truly teach people that
they have the power withinthemselves to transform their
lives, that they have the powerwithin themselves to transform
their lives.
A lot of people think that theyhave to go to healers or do
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extraordinary things in order tohave a better quality of life
or health.
But if you just learn certaintechniques or formulas and do
them consistently, people canreally change the trajectory of
their life, even to the point ofhealing really intense terminal
diseases and things like that.
So I'm really just reallyexcited to teach people how to
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really tap into their innerconsciousness, their truth,
their power, and direct it in away that allows them to have a
better quality of life.
Yuli (03:43):
Incredible Thank you.
Thank you for all your work andall you do.
Ashley (03:48):
And if you can just sum up for our listeners after they
heard all those incrediblemodalities right that you
learned and trained in, if youcan just sum up your work and
then touch upon upon how does itall connect to the quantum
physics, Okay, so usually whenpeople come to me, they come to
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me with different situationsthat are not working for them,
and I'm looking to figure outwhere they are now and where
they want to be, and what theyneed to start or stop doing,
either in ordinary reality orenergetically, in order to be in
alignment with the type of lifeor the type of health that they
want to have.
Be a blade of grass, a stone,or literally, every cell of your
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body has this intelligence thatwe can connect to, interact
with and embody for differentthings in our life, and so, for
me, people will come to me andthey will explain their
situation and I will journey forthem, either in person or just
on my own, based on theirsituations or their questions,
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their problems, and I'm lookingfor solutions.
So when you're doing theshamanic healing work, what
you're doing is you are shiftingyour own brainwave frequencies
to theta, which is what peoplewill go into when they're in a
meditative state, and I may usedrums or rattles or just using
my breath to tap into that stateof theta and allow myself to
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connect deeply with the personthat is my client, and while I
do that, it's sort of like aform of almost like quantum
entanglement, where my energy isreally deeply connecting to
theirs, and not just theirenergy, but that intelligence
inside of them, and I'm askingthat part of their consciousness
what's wrong?
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What is the source of theirproblem?
Either in this lifetimedimension or it could be
ancestral.
So I'm looking for the core orroot problem and, again, the
solution.
So I'm, like I said, I'm justgoing into these meditative
states, tapping into that personand in some cases I will
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actually see a visual of themwhere it looks almost like an
x-ray in my brain, where I seetheir light body and I will see
where there's shadows and theshadows would indicate where
there's either a blockage or anentity or energy of some kind
attached to them that needs tobe removed, or it's an absence
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of their own consciousness inthat part of their body that is
basically the result of abuse,trauma and neglect.
We would call it soul loss, inwhich there's a loss of
consciousness or energy withinthat area of the body.
So I'm looking to see ifthere's something again that
needs to be removed or somethingthat needs to be restored to
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put them in alignment with their, basically their divine
harmonic perfection.
And in some cases, when I'mdoing the journey, not only do I
see a visual, I may actuallyget messages inside my head that
I tend to write down for theclient.
I will go into part of likewritten mediumship in which my
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guides, or my own consciousness,is telling me all about this
person's mental or emotional orphysical health or any issue
that they're dealing with, andmy guides may give me
information about stuff thatthey need to do in ordinary
reality, such as getting out ofa toxic relationship, or maybe
there's a supplement that popsinto my consciousness that may
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help them.
So that's basically what I'mdoing.
I'm basically just going intoan alternate state of
consciousness to see what needsto be done in both ordinary
reality and from an energeticstandpoint to shift that person.
Yuli (08:00):
This is so incredible and so deep.
We're going to unpack it morein a minute because I have so
many questions.
So, first of all, when you saythat you connect with a person,
what do you mean by the wordperson?
So is it their energetic field,their soul?
You know there's so many namesto it People use, like their,
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you know their aura, their, youknow light body used as well.
I mean there's so manydifferent terms, so can you help
define that a little bit better?
Ashley (08:30):
Yeah, well, there's different parts of a person.
There's their physical body,there's their mental body, and
the mental body can actuallyhave a couple parts.
You can have the part ofthemselves that is like the
Christ consciousness, that hasinfinite possibilities, infinite
skills.
We may consider that part ofthe frontal lobe where we have
like the five to 10% that islike totally in control of their
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reality.
And then we have that hindbrain part that we consider the
mammalian part of the brain,which is the subconscious.
That is like all the records ofthe past.
It's all about probability,it's all about patterns that
they've reproduced over and overand over again.
So I can tap into that partthat is the higher self, that we
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consider the 10% conscious mind.
But I can also intentionallytap into the part that is the
self-saboteur, the part that isgoing through all these habits
and patterns.
And when you're a shamanicpractitioner and you're setting
an intention, it's either liketurning the dial on a TV or
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radio station to get a specificchannel, like the Spanish
channel, the news channel, theclassical music, the rock, or
it's like putting an addressinto a GPS device and you figure
out what a person needs to doto get from one place to another
.
So just setting the intentionalone will determine what part
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of the person's psyche orconsciousness you're connecting
to, whether it's just the lightbody, the energy body itself,
whether it's a part that'sactually going to speak back to
me and tell me what's going onwith them, or if I want to see
something or I want to hearsomething.
Just setting the intentionsalone tweaks the dial on purpose
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for what information I get.
Because you can set theintention for information, you
can set the information forempowerment, you can set the
dial for healing, you can set itfor clearing, for restoring.
Literally every part of theintention tweaks it a little bit
to get a different part of thatperson.
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So I'm connecting to as manydifferent parts of them as
humanly possible, because insome cases the higher self is
going to give information.
That sounds wonderful, but Iwant to hear from the lower self
why it thinks it's not possible, what its belief systems are or
what it may have said or donethat may have acted like a curse
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in some ways, like a self-curse, to protect itself.
So I have learned through justyears of practice to learn to
ask specific questions or setspecific intentions.
But it really is.
You have to fine tune this overand over and over again to get
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exactly what it is that you'relooking for, and that in and of
itself, is a skill.
Intention setting is a skill.
So I am connecting yeah, withthe light body.
I'm connecting with which youwould consider the aura.
I can connect with differentorgans to find out if there's
something going on in there thatis out of balance.
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I would not only see it in mylittle x-ray in my brain, but I
will feel it in my body and Iwill get information about
what's happening for them andwhat the problem or the solution
is from a standpoint of medicalmediumship, but, again, also
parts of their consciousness or,in some cases, their guides or
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their loved ones.
So I don't know if that answersyour question.
Yuli (12:13):
That is.
I mean, it seems like you'rereceiving so many different
types of information, right?
So we're talking about allsenses, basically, the visual,
the verbal, even.
Are we also talking aboutvibrations?
Ashley (12:27):
Yeah, so one of the things that people don't realize
is like your heart has a brainof 44,000 neurons that generates
the largest electromagneticfield in your body.
It will go out several feet, insome cases up to miles.
That is what is really creatingthe largest vibrational field.
But of course every organ hasvibrations and things like that,
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and that vibration again can befine-tuned through intention to
give you an image, a color, asensation in your body or what
have you.
So, but yeah, it's emitting afrequency, just like a radio
that you can fine tune to getspecific information about.
Yuli (13:10):
That's an incredible skill and I mean to you to get to
that level.
Do you feel like you had to gothrough all those different
modalities to kind of like pieceit all together for yourself,
or is it something you know,trained, learned, born with?
How do you get to that level of, I guess, perception and
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receptiveness of the other humanbeing?
Ashley (13:37):
Well, it's sort of like a massage therapist.
Oftentimes people, like whenyou first started out in massage
training, they say, hey, do youfeel that softness or that
hardness in that area of thebody?
And you're like, no, you haveto learn palpation skills
through repetition.
And the same thing with energy,like when I first started, I
was able to.
You know, I had premonitionsthat would prevent accidents and
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death or I would get randomdownloads, but it wasn't
anything I could call upon atall.
In fact, the first five yearsof my training I really
struggled because I didn't knowwhat I didn't know and I didn't
know how to change that.
But something really.
I think it was my sheerdetermination, for one thing,
but also going through asignificant illness, that really
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got me so exquisitely sensitiveto all these different energies
that were out there, not onlythe negative ones, but the
positive ones.
The trick was I had to learn tointerpret all this different
information, whether it be asensation in my body, a message
that may be either direct ormetaphorical.
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How to learn to interpret asymbolic message or an image?
Because sometimes, oroftentimes, spiritual images,
they are not a directtranslation, they are a symbolic
and a person has to learn tointerpret things.
So it just came from 20 yearsof practice, but I had one
teacher in particular who reallytaught me to listen.
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He taught me reverence and totruly build a relationship with
the other side, and he was theone that really showed me that
it was not just something you dooccasionally, like a 10-minute
or one-hour meditation.
It is literally all day, everyday.
So in some cases I spend eighthours doing this, and if I don't
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get the information I want, Ilearn to ask a different
question or set a differentintention.
So I'm constantly tweaking,tweaking, tweaking, through
hours and hours and hours ofdoing this.
And so if you take eight hoursa day, 20 years not that I do it
all that long, every single dayfor that long, but I have
enough experience that I havejust sort of learned to do
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things in a way that none of myteachers have ever taught me,
and that's what happens when youbuild a relationship with the
other side, or even just yourhigher self, your consciousness
the more you do, the moreinformation you get.
So what started off as like onesentence or one flash of an
image became like 48 pages ofinformation in one day, or hours
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of visuals.
And so it's just again the moreyou do it, the better you get.
Just like honing a mental muscleor a physical muscle.
You may start off weak andflabby, but the more you do
something you get that strongbeach body.
The same thing is with yourpsychic skills the more you do
it, the stronger and easier andmore fluid it becomes.
Yuli (16:41):
Yeah, that's.
I mean it's incredible to hearabout your determination to
crack this code right.
It's just so inspiring.
And I have to tell you, assomeone who's been on your
client side, this is probablythe most comprehensive report
about myself I've ever received.
I mean I'm still readingthrough all those pages.
It was one long email.
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I think you maxed out the Gmailcapacity in the best possible
way, but the wealth ofinformation was just incredible
and I personally I didn't expectthat.
Also a level of, like medicaldetail and not just the
diagnosis but also a veryhelpful suggestions and I mean I
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don't want to call it atreatment plan, right, because
we're in different realms here,but some really actionable
recommendations that are veryholistic, very easy to implement
, totally aligned with andtotally spot on different kinds
of information.
And I feel like you know, thereport went from anything from
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the sole purpose to the verynitty gritty of my gut health,
which is really incredible.
And I'm just yeah, I'm amazedand hearing about your process,
I mean it makes sense that youknow the level of training, of
tuning in and you knowdefinitely kind of dictates the
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level of information you'rereceiving and it seems like you
really mastered that.
So I'm just very impressed.
Ashley (18:19):
Oh, thank you.
You know, I think it'sinteresting Like people are
doing this all day long but theydon't realize what they're
doing.
There's that phrase whereattention goes, energy flows.
They're not joking, it's justthat most people they are
focused on worst case scenariosof the negative and sort of like
in quantum physics.
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Wherever you look for theelectron, there it is, and so a
lot of times people theirattention is being caught up in
distractions like social mediaor whatever somebody else wants
from them.
Like when you're scrolling onTikTok or Instagram, somebody
wants your attention and theyhave learned to keep that
attention through dancing orsaying something or whatever.
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And so instead of us directingour attention to what we want or
what we need, we allow othersto direct it, and if we're
listening to news or othersocial media things, people are
programming us constantlythrough words, through images,
through stimulation, versus usdoing it for ourselves.
And so once they've hooked ontoour attention through quantum
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entanglement, we have now comeinto their world instead of them
coming into ours, and so whenwe get hooked up into that, we
may spend I don't know how manyhours of our day either focused
on what we don't want or whathave you, and we're generating
this emotional field that is sostrong.
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It is giving life, it is givingbirth to our thoughts, and so
people again, when they allowthemselves to get hooked into
the negative or the gossip orworst case scenarios, they are
doing the same thing, butthey're doing it in a
destructive way.
So I'm deliberately trying todirect my attention into a
constructive, manifesting,healing way, versus being in an
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unconscious, unaware destructivepattern.
But it's the same energy, it'sjust directed or misdirected.
Same continuum, same spectrumof energy.
It's just how it's directed ofenergy, it's just, you know how
it's directed.
Yuli (20:26):
Now this is, and this is so profound and I think I mean
hopefully more and more peoplerealizing that these days too, I
think there's like a littlemore talk about anything from
like mental diet to, you know,like social media diet right.
Like not in a negative way,about like dieting and
necessarily, you know, in termsof losing weight, but dieting as
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kind of like being moreconscious of like what we're
consuming, and not just in ourphysical bodies but in our, with
all of our receptors, right,and like.
I love that you mentioned thequantum entanglement, because
this is like how personally Ifeel with TikTok as well.
I feel like when I open the app, like I'm not in control of my
reality, things, justinformation flows.
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Like I'm not in a controlposition.
You know, information just kindof flows to me and I don't have
much control over it or I don'thave my filters right.
On other platforms, likeInstagram, you can really like
fine tune your feed to actuallybe what you want it to be, which
is more inspiring and upliftingmaybe, but some other platforms
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they definitely hunt on that,you know, ability to hook you
into something that you didn't,and when we are in that passive
state, we just consumemindlessly right, just like
overeating, just like you know.
You take that big pack of icecream out of the fridge and a
few minutes later you didn'teven notice that it's gone,
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because you were just doing itmindlessly right, you didn't
mean that.
So it's the same with socialmedia and other platforms, and I
think it's just like such asmart way to put it that it is
that entanglement and you'reallowing the other party to have
access to your field.
Ashley (22:13):
Yeah Well, like I said, where attention goes, energy
flows when you give somebodyyour attention, not only do they
consume your energy, theyconsume your time, and so a lot
of people will find they'vescrolled for like four hours or
whatever.
They've just consumed yourenergy and your time and you may
feel weird afterwards.
You might first might feel alittle high because they are
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feeding you something that isalmost like a dopamine, hit
through their antics or theirwords or whatever.
So you get a temporary high.
But while you are getting this,this little fix, you are being
consumed, your time is beingconsumed, your attention is
being consumed, your energy isbeing consumed, and so you might
feel depressed or anxious laterand feel like you need to go
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back into there for another fix.
But again, every time you dothat, you're being consumed.
When you push the like thelittle heart button, give them
your comments, you are feedinginto the machine.
But it's the interworld of themiddle world.
The middle world is where wehave form, but an interworld,
like heaven and hell areinterworlds.
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Your higher self is aninterworld, but the internet
it's another inner.
You know it's a place withoutform, but it's connected like a
web, like they call it, theworldwide web.
You are connected to this hivemind where people are constantly
vying for your energy, yourattention, to boost them up.
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So you're feeding them butdraining yourself, you're giving
them, you know your likes andwhatever that gives them the
awards, the accolades, thenumber of users, maybe money,
maybe, whatever it is, and youbecome less of you and more of
them.
Because when you are doing thisquantum physics realm, there is
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power of proximity, and thatproximity may mean like, let's
say, you're in just, even inperson with somebody.
If you have a highervibrational person with a lower
vibrational person, that highervibrational person will lower by
a minimum of 30% in energyperformance, mood and what have
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you.
And proximity can also includewhatever you spend your time
listening to.
If you're listening to deathmetal, if you are listening to
podcasts or things that are likenegative things about world
events or news media, that stuffcoming to you has a way of
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changing your vibration forbetter or worse, and it really
is just through attention.
You immediately become quantumentangled, and so the shamans in
our classes would say don'tlisten to death metal, don't
watch porn, don't watch allthese things that are like
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horror movies, because what itdoes to your third eye is
incredibly destructive and ittakes so much to offset it,
because not only do you haveyour mental body in tuned, your
heart chakra, which again hasthe largest electromagnetic
field in your body, youremotions are that heart.
When they've hooked youremotions, they've got you, and
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that those emotions are reallywhat power your reality, because
if you're neutral, you don'tget what you want.
Your manifestation doesn'thappen from a neutral space.
It comes from an intenselyemotional space, with repetition
, and so when you're watching orlistening to something that has
hooked you emotionally andforced you to remember your past
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, like your broken relationshipor they've, you know, fear
mongering or all the things thatmake you angry or whatever when
they're doing this, they'redirecting your attention, your
energy, as well as your emotions, and whatever they're doing
with your emotions is what iseither draining or feeding your
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energetic body.
Yuli (26:12):
Yeah, so true and so powerful.
So, outside of the consumption,conscious consumption how can
we untangle or detangle fromthings that are not for our
highest good?
I mean, in case of media it's alittle easier.
It's more about self-controland just awareness, right, you
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know?
In case of people it's a littlemore complicated.
I mean, I wish in our idealworld we always hang out with
only highly vibrational beings,always higher vibration than we
are, but this is not a reality.
Is higher vibration than we are, but this is not a reality.
So what does an average, howcan an average person, protect
their fields from thoseinfluences?
Ashley (26:57):
Well, there's so many different types of influences
and it's sort of like figuringout what you of activities.
So that's number one the musicthat you're listening to.
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Make it higher caliber, not allthis cheap stuff.
That's really about degradingwomen or some other thing Again
death metal, or screwingsomebody over.
Just really get rid of thethings that are directing your
attention to those types ofagain, music or media or news or
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certain things, but also justreally be conscious of your
relationships.
Oftentimes people get intotrauma bonds or they have
relationships that are verysuperficial, that direct their
attention to, again, negativetopics, or where people just
bond over complaining orcomparing who's sicker than
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somebody else, or whatever it is.
If you are around people thatconstantly drain you, this may
be where you have to determinefor yourself if there are some
relationships that need to end,because there are some people
that will constantly talk youout of possibilities to keep you
in a realm that they'recomfortable with.
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They want you to stay small sothat they don't feel badly about
themselves, or they just have alimiting belief system.
So this may be where you haveto vet your friend groups or
your peers and that sort ofthing, so that you are not
constantly being programmed tosync up with their energy and
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choose higher caliber of people.
Raise your standards foryourself.
Raise your standards for yourphysical diet.
Your exercise for your physicaldiet, your exercise Like really
literally moving your body canchange your frequency, like if
you're jumping or you're runningor you're doing something to
exert yourself.
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You stop that adrenaline andcortisol that keep you less than
neutral, because the wholepoint, you know, like raising
your vibration, is you want tobe neutral or better, raising
your vibration as you want to beneutral or better.
Other things that people can doare breath work or meditation,
heart math, where you're puttingyour attention or your
awareness in the area of yourheart or your chest and noticing
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the air going in and the airgoing out.
When you are just observingyour breath, you are in neutral,
where you stop the adrenalineand cortisol.
You go back into homeostasiswhere the body can heal itself.
If you want to pair thatneutral breathing with a
positive emotion, like gratitudeor joy or appreciation, then
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you can start producing thingslike serotonin, dopamine,
oxytocin, dhea all the happyhormones that your body needs to
feel joyful and amazing.
And the more you get into thisplace of neutral or better, like
non-reaction, the more youstart to attract people and
synchronicities and events,circumstances, relationships
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that are alignment with thatrather than the negative.
And so I think one of thethings I try to tell all my
clients is get into a place ofneutral or better.
The Buddhists talk aboutequanimity, non-reaction.
The Egyptians talk about Mott,the cat-headed goddess that is
weighing a heart against afeather.
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It is literally the emotional,vibrational heart that if you
are neutral or better, you arenot creating negative karma.
You weigh basically as much asa feather if you are neutral or
better, so you can access thoseheavenly realms, those better
again events, circumstances andrelationships.
So be careful of your diet, becareful of your friend groups,
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be careful what you're listeningto or watching, move your body
and listen to your breath andalso be very aware of your
speech.
If you have negative speech, notonly inside your head but also
what you say to other people, itacts like a spell, a curse or
an incantation.
If you say I can never do thisbecause X, y and Z happened to
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me in the past, then theuniverse is like okay.
If you say I can do amazingthings and I'm a fabulous person
, the universe is like okay.
It really is like where youdirect your again your attention
and your emotion.
So just being more conscious ofyour speech patterns, because a
lot of times people are reallysuper hard and critical on
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themselves and they may even sayjudgmental things to other
people or say something limitingabout themselves to other
people for just out of habit.
So I hope that answers thatquestion out of habit.
Yuli (32:04):
So I hope that answers that question Absolutely.
And now that we talked aboutmore kind of our own protection,
protection of our field and youknow our energy but there's
also something that we talkedabout during our session the
importance to be seen right,especially in this time, is when
there's so much, you know,negative energy and information
out there and how important forthis community, especially of
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the healers, the people that arereally working on raising the
earth vibration right, but it'salso important to be seen.
We can't completely ignore someof those channels and be this
is.
You know this is all negative,this is a distractive or
whatever it is, but you knowthere has to be more voices out
there that are pure and you knowin spirit and every other form.
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So what is your point of viewof that and how do you do that?
Consciously and intentionallyand powerfully.
Ashley (33:04):
You mean, like, how do healers make themselves seen out
there in the world?
Yeah, so part of that is, youknow, first of all, how do you
see yourself?
I mean it really does startwith the self.
Like do you see yourself assomebody who's wounded?
How do you identify yourself?
Identity is a really a bigthing, and how you show up in
the world, how other people seeyou, how they view you, how they
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treat you, is based on how yousee, view and treat yourself.
So part of this like beforeeven being seen out there in the
world really work on your ownpersonal identity, which you can
shift intentionally.
Part of that is like to trulyfigure out what you want
yourself to be.
A lot of shamanic practitionersthat I trained with they said,
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instead of focusing on the pastthat you may want to clean up,
sort of like, instead of tryingto get back the pieces of a
shattered mirror, they're sayingcreate a new mirror for
yourself, and it may be aversion of yourself that you
have never been.
It could be this world-renownedspeaker or healer or what.
Have you Really get that visionset in your mind and tap into
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what that feels like, as if youare that person.
Where are they in the world?
So if a person is a healer, Igot to tell you guys, yeah,
sometimes we can be found.
Just one person can put us onthe map.
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One person if you reallybelieve in yourself and you
really show up, you're going toemit this frequency that is so
attractive, so magnetic thatpeople want to work with you
because you actually believe inyourself.
That's why I'm saying it wantto work with you because you
actually believe in yourself.
That's why I'm saying it has tostart with you.
So if you tap into yourself andnot from an arrogant or
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egotistical point of view, butyou are so passionate about what
you do and you believe in notonly the work but you as the
practitioner, you're going toattract people to you.
And the more you do that, youalso build up confidence to put
yourself out there.
And that could be public talksfor individuals or groups really
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letting the world know that youexist.
Because even the term shamanismpeople sometimes sometimes get
freaked out by the word,thinking that you're going to be
connecting with demons oryou're going to be doing blood
sacrifices or something to thateffect, because there's a
misunderstanding of whatshamanism is but just really
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getting clear about not only whoyou are and being passionate
about it, but what is themessage that you want the world
to know?
What is it that you want theworld to achieve through your
work and figuring out what isthe best way to share that
message or get the word outabout you and that work?
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So, again, being willing to dopublic talks, being willing to
maybe do something on Facebookor Instagram or YouTube that's
informative to people, becausethere really is a business
aspect to being a healer.
You can, of course, go work forsomebody else, but if you want
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to be an entrepreneur, you dohave to play the game a little
bit, and that's where you have awebsite presence.
That's where you may have,again, these little blurbs on
something like Instagram or whathave you, not just to draw
people to your site, but toreally be informative about
getting people to heal theirenergy, heal their mind, heal
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their body, their soul, whateverit is mind, heal their body,
their soul, whatever it is.
Yuli (36:46):
That's very beautifully said and any other parallels
that you see between theprinciples of the quantum world
right and the spiritual worldthat we're trying to build, that
we're building with the lightworkers and the healers, this
whole layer of people on thisplanet that is actively working
to raise the vibrations,Anything, any other principles
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we can use to become bettermagnets.
Ashley (37:11):
So you've probably heard as above, so below, as within,
so without.
A lot of people they sort ofmisconstrue what this is.
It's the law of correspondence.
It's one of the universal laws.
What they mean by as above, sobelow, what you think in your
head is what is put into yourbody.
So whatever not only whateverthoughts you're thinking affects
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your emotions, but you canliterally make yourself well or
make yourself sick.
That was something that I haddone.
I had destroyed my healththrough my thinking, but I also
cured myself of a terminaldisease through the same thing,
with enough emotional intensityand repetition.
So, as above so below, becareful of your thoughts,
because they will sink into yourbody, but as within, so without
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.
Again, whatever you're thinkingand what you're feeling is
what's going to be reflected toyou in the outer world.
And so if you think the world'sgoing to hell, guess what
You're going to see evidence ofit.
But if you focus on seeing theworld as healed and what your
role is in that, then you willbe part of raising the vibration
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of other people.
When you're dealing with people,if you're a healer oftentimes
like a lot of my shamanicpractitioners or teachers that
they're trying to teach us issee the person whole.
If you just see their illnessesand make yourself responsible
for fixing them, then you arereally limiting your range.
But if you see this person isalready whole and you keep
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fixating on them going into afully healed state, you're
seeing their perfection.
You are anchoring in throughquantum entanglement a fully
healed individual, regardless ifyou are responsible for it or
not.
So a lot of practitioners try toput their energy into somebody
and make themselves responsiblefor the timing and the way in
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which somebody heals.
But if you really anchor inthat they are fully healed
already, not only do you speedup that process for them, but
you also allow for the universeto work on healing them without
your participation.
And so part of this is againnot focusing on the problems and
then talking to other peopleabout it, because that is
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constructive or destructiveinterference, where you have two
or more people coming togetherto talk about negativity and you
amplify that negativity.
But you can have constructiveinterference where you have two
people talking about positivethings and really like coming
together as groups or pairs orwhatever to create a better
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reality out there.
So truly focus on the earthbecoming healed, the earth
getting better, people waking up.
So don't get together andcomplain about what's going on
in the world, go like see itwhole and really inspire people
to see themselves as alreadyhealed.
Yuli (40:07):
Such a beautiful analogy and I love the idea of
constructive interference.
I want to maybe rename thispodcast because I just love this
idea and I can imagine the allthe waves and the particles
being amplified.
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That vision, Ashley, we arerunning out of time.
I feel like we could talk forhours.
This is just such deep, deepsubjects and you're just a
wealth of knowledge.
We might have to do a follow-upepisode.
I'm just warning you.
I would love it.
Any last quick words of wisdom.
Ashley (40:50):
Yeah, I would just say to people really be clear with
not only for yourself and theuniverse about really what you
want.
Don't be afraid to dream andreally have unwavering faith
literally, quite literally,unwavering faith in your vision
and see it done and keeppracticing that over and over,
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and over and over again until itbecomes a reality.
Do not allow yourself to waver.
Don't let anybody talk you outof possibilities.
Keep the power of your dreamsto yourself, like a little baby
in the womb that is forming, andkeep feeding it whatever energy
you need until that baby comesinto fruition, when it stops
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being just a thought and anemotion inside your body and
really starts to come out in theexternal world.
Allow yourself to truly be themother, the God figure in that
reality in which you haveunwavering faith in your dreams,
even if your other five sensessay it's impossible.
Forget the five senses right now, because I'm going to tell you,
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as a person who has healed aterminal disease, seizures and
strokes, you can make theimpossible possible through
enough intensity and repetition.
So just truly be, understand orconvince yourself, however you
need to, that what you havechosen has also chosen you and
that it is absolutely devotingits entire existence to being
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one with you.
So that's really what I'mreally trying to put out there
to you that really be devoted,believe that you have been
chosen by the people and thethings that you have wanted, and
do not cheat on those dreamswith fears and with doubts and
with anything else.
Just really be 100,000% devotedto what you seek.
Yuli (42:44):
So beautiful and deep and powerful.
Ashley, you're such a gift.
Thank you so much again.
So just grateful to meet you,to have a chance to share your
wisdom with our listeners.
So please, please, keep doingwhat you do.
Thank you.
Welcome to the Healist Podcast, where we inspire and
guide healers through businessexpansion.
We give voice to incrediblyabundant healers to share their
stories.
We dive into the quantum fieldto unlock the energies of
conscious creation.
We also develop digital toolsto help you grow, which you can
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find on HealLesscom.
I'm your host, Yuli, and I'mgrateful you chose to join this
space.
Now let's go deep.
Hello, dear friends, welcome toanother amazing and exciting
episode of the HealLess podcast.
We have a special treat todayAshley Brothers.
She is a motivational speaker,spiritual counselor, teacher and
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intuitive healer with a passionfor ancient and modern healing
techniques.
Based in Oregon, ashleyconducts in-person workshops and
healings, as well as remotesessions for clients worldwide.
Her unique approach blendstechniques from diverse cultures
, merging science withspirituality to access alternate
state of consciousness forhealing and empowerment.
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Trained in psychic mediumship,journeying, soul retrieval,
divination, oracle work, dyingconsciously, chakra illumination
, reiki, massage, craniosacraltherapy, sound therapy, pranic
healing, reflexology andcountless shamanic initiations
and ceremonies, ashley's journeyspans over two decades of
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profound spiritual explorationand growth.
You can tell why I'm so excitedto talk to her.
And just a quick note just acouple of days ago I actually
had a session with Ashley doingmy own shamanic journeying and
healing and just really profoundconversation for over four
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hours, which is probably thelongest healing session I've
done.
It's been incredible.
So I have, I think, a reallyspecial perspective and I cannot
wait for this conversationbecause, as we were doing our
session, we got deep intoconversation about quantum
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physics and spirituality andthis topic just emerged
naturally and, as you knowanyone who listens to the
podcast.
Quantum is my field that I loveexploring, and I love even more
meeting people in this spiritualspace that are as passionate
about quantum physics as I am.
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So, ashley, you're a gift tothis podcast and to our
listeners.
Welcome.
And if you'd like to to thispodcast and to our listeners,
welcome.
And if you'd like to set yourintention, please do so.
Ashley (02:50):
Thank you, yuli.
That was a really beautifulintroduction and I feel really
grateful and appreciative.
My intention for this podcastis to truly teach people that
they have the power withinthemselves to transform their
lives, that they have the powerwithin themselves to transform
their lives.
A lot of people think that theyhave to go to healers or do
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extraordinary things in order tohave a better quality of life
or health.
But if you just learn certaintechniques or formulas and do
them consistently, people canreally change the trajectory of
their life, even to the point ofhealing really intense terminal
diseases and things like that.
So I'm really just reallyexcited to teach people how to
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really tap into their innerconsciousness, their truth,
their power, and direct it in away that allows them to have a
better quality of life.
Yuli (03:43):
Incredible Thank you.
Thank you for all your work andall you do.
Ashley (03:48):
And if you can just sum up for our listeners after they
heard all those incrediblemodalities right that you
learned and trained in, if youcan just sum up your work and
then touch upon upon how does itall connect to the quantum
physics, Okay, so usually whenpeople come to me, they come to
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me with different situationsthat are not working for them,
and I'm looking to figure outwhere they are now and where
they want to be, and what theyneed to start or stop doing,
either in ordinary reality orenergetically, in order to be in
alignment with the type of lifeor the type of health that they
want to have.
Be a blade of grass, a stone,or literally, every cell of your
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body has this intelligence thatwe can connect to, interact
with and embody for differentthings in our life, and so, for
me, people will come to me andthey will explain their
situation and I will journey forthem, either in person or just
on my own, based on theirsituations or their questions,
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their problems, and I'm lookingfor solutions.
So when you're doing theshamanic healing work, what
you're doing is you are shiftingyour own brainwave frequencies
to theta, which is what peoplewill go into when they're in a
meditative state, and I may usedrums or rattles or just using
my breath to tap into that stateof theta and allow myself to
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connect deeply with the personthat is my client, and while I
do that, it's sort of like aform of almost like quantum
entanglement, where my energy isreally deeply connecting to
theirs, and not just theirenergy, but that intelligence
inside of them, and I'm askingthat part of their consciousness
what's wrong?
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What is the source of theirproblem?
Either in this lifetimedimension or it could be
ancestral.
So I'm looking for the core orroot problem and, again, the
solution.
So I'm, like I said, I'm justgoing into these meditative
states, tapping into that personand in some cases I will
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actually see a visual of themwhere it looks almost like an
x-ray in my brain, where I seetheir light body and I will see
where there's shadows and theshadows would indicate where
there's either a blockage or anentity or energy of some kind
attached to them that needs tobe removed, or it's an absence
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of their own consciousness inthat part of their body that is
basically the result of abuse,trauma and neglect.
We would call it soul loss, inwhich there's a loss of
consciousness or energy withinthat area of the body.
So I'm looking to see ifthere's something again that
needs to be removed or somethingthat needs to be restored to
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put them in alignment with their, basically their divine
harmonic perfection.
And in some cases, when I'mdoing the journey, not only do I
see a visual, I may actuallyget messages inside my head that
I tend to write down for theclient.
I will go into part of likewritten mediumship in which my
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guides, or my own consciousness,is telling me all about this
person's mental or emotional orphysical health or any issue
that they're dealing with, andmy guides may give me
information about stuff thatthey need to do in ordinary
reality, such as getting out ofa toxic relationship, or maybe
there's a supplement that popsinto my consciousness that may
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help them.
So that's basically what I'mdoing.
I'm basically just going intoan alternate state of
consciousness to see what needsto be done in both ordinary
reality and from an energeticstandpoint to shift that person.
Yuli (08:00):
This is so incredible and so deep.
We're going to unpack it morein a minute because I have so
many questions.
So, first of all, when you saythat you connect with a person,
what do you mean by the wordperson?
So is it their energetic field,their soul?
You know there's so many namesto it People use, like their,
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you know their aura, their, youknow light body used as well.
I mean there's so manydifferent terms, so can you help
define that a little bit better?
Ashley (08:30):
Yeah, well, there's different parts of a person.
There's their physical body,there's their mental body, and
the mental body can actuallyhave a couple parts.
You can have the part ofthemselves that is like the
Christ consciousness, that hasinfinite possibilities, infinite
skills.
We may consider that part ofthe frontal lobe where we have
like the five to 10% that islike totally in control of their
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reality.
And then we have that hindbrain part that we consider the
mammalian part of the brain,which is the subconscious.
That is like all the records ofthe past.
It's all about probability,it's all about patterns that
they've reproduced over and overand over again.
So I can tap into that partthat is the higher self, that we
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consider the 10% conscious mind.
But I can also intentionallytap into the part that is the
self-saboteur, the part that isgoing through all these habits
and patterns.
And when you're a shamanicpractitioner and you're setting
an intention, it's either liketurning the dial on a TV or
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radio station to get a specificchannel, like the Spanish
channel, the news channel, theclassical music, the rock, or
it's like putting an addressinto a GPS device and you figure
out what a person needs to doto get from one place to another
.
So just setting the intentionalone will determine what part
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of the person's psyche orconsciousness you're connecting
to, whether it's just the lightbody, the energy body itself,
whether it's a part that'sactually going to speak back to
me and tell me what's going onwith them, or if I want to see
something or I want to hearsomething.
Just setting the intentionsalone tweaks the dial on purpose
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for what information I get.
Because you can set theintention for information, you
can set the information forempowerment, you can set the
dial for healing, you can set itfor clearing, for restoring.
Literally every part of theintention tweaks it a little bit
to get a different part of thatperson.
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So I'm connecting to as manydifferent parts of them as
humanly possible, because insome cases the higher self is
going to give information.
That sounds wonderful, but Iwant to hear from the lower self
why it thinks it's not possible, what its belief systems are or
what it may have said or donethat may have acted like a curse
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in some ways, like a self-curse, to protect itself.
So I have learned through justyears of practice to learn to
ask specific questions or setspecific intentions.
But it really is.
You have to fine tune this overand over and over again to get
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exactly what it is that you'relooking for, and that in and of
itself, is a skill.
Intention setting is a skill.
So I am connecting yeah, withthe light body.
I'm connecting with which youwould consider the aura.
I can connect with differentorgans to find out if there's
something going on in there thatis out of balance.
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I would not only see it in mylittle x-ray in my brain, but I
will feel it in my body and Iwill get information about
what's happening for them andwhat the problem or the solution
is from a standpoint of medicalmediumship, but, again, also
parts of their consciousness or,in some cases, their guides or
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their loved ones.
So I don't know if that answersyour question.
Yuli (12:13):
That is.
I mean, it seems like you'rereceiving so many different
types of information, right?
So we're talking about allsenses, basically, the visual,
the verbal, even.
Are we also talking aboutvibrations?
Ashley (12:27):
Yeah, so one of the things that people don't realize
is like your heart has a brainof 44,000 neurons that generates
the largest electromagneticfield in your body.
It will go out several feet, insome cases up to miles.
That is what is really creatingthe largest vibrational field.
But of course every organ hasvibrations and things like that,
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and that vibration again can befine-tuned through intention to
give you an image, a color, asensation in your body or what
have you.
So, but yeah, it's emitting afrequency, just like a radio
that you can fine tune to getspecific information about.
Yuli (13:10):
That's an incredible skill and I mean to you to get to
that level.
Do you feel like you had to gothrough all those different
modalities to kind of like pieceit all together for yourself,
or is it something you know,trained, learned, born with?
How do you get to that level of, I guess, perception and
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receptiveness of the other humanbeing?
Ashley (13:37):
Well, it's sort of like a massage therapist.
Oftentimes people, like whenyou first started out in massage
training, they say, hey, do youfeel that softness or that
hardness in that area of thebody?
And you're like, no, you haveto learn palpation skills
through repetition.
And the same thing with energy,like when I first started, I
was able to.
You know, I had premonitionsthat would prevent accidents and
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death or I would get randomdownloads, but it wasn't
anything I could call upon atall.
In fact, the first five yearsof my training I really
struggled because I didn't knowwhat I didn't know and I didn't
know how to change that.
But something really.
I think it was my sheerdetermination, for one thing,
but also going through asignificant illness, that really
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got me so exquisitely sensitiveto all these different energies
that were out there, not onlythe negative ones, but the
positive ones.
The trick was I had to learn tointerpret all this different
information, whether it be asensation in my body, a message
that may be either direct ormetaphorical.
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How to learn to interpret asymbolic message or an image?
Because sometimes, oroftentimes, spiritual images,
they are not a directtranslation, they are a symbolic
and a person has to learn tointerpret things.
So it just came from 20 yearsof practice, but I had one
teacher in particular who reallytaught me to listen.
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He taught me reverence and totruly build a relationship with
the other side, and he was theone that really showed me that
it was not just something you dooccasionally, like a 10-minute
or one-hour meditation.
It is literally all day, everyday.
So in some cases I spend eighthours doing this, and if I don't
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get the information I want, Ilearn to ask a different
question or set a differentintention.
So I'm constantly tweaking,tweaking, tweaking, through
hours and hours and hours ofdoing this.
And so if you take eight hoursa day, 20 years not that I do it
all that long, every single dayfor that long, but I have
enough experience that I havejust sort of learned to do
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things in a way that none of myteachers have ever taught me,
and that's what happens when youbuild a relationship with the
other side, or even just yourhigher self, your consciousness
the more you do, the moreinformation you get.
So what started off as like onesentence or one flash of an
image became like 48 pages ofinformation in one day, or hours
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of visuals.
And so it's just again the moreyou do it, the better you get.
Just like honing a mental muscleor a physical muscle.
You may start off weak andflabby, but the more you do
something you get that strongbeach body.
The same thing is with yourpsychic skills the more you do
it, the stronger and easier andmore fluid it becomes.
Yuli (16:41):
Yeah, that's.
I mean it's incredible to hearabout your determination to
crack this code right.
It's just so inspiring.
And I have to tell you, assomeone who's been on your
client side, this is probablythe most comprehensive report
about myself I've ever received.
I mean I'm still readingthrough all those pages.
It was one long email.
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I think you maxed out the Gmailcapacity in the best possible
way, but the wealth ofinformation was just incredible
and I personally I didn't expectthat.
Also a level of, like medicaldetail and not just the
diagnosis but also a veryhelpful suggestions and I mean I
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don't want to call it atreatment plan, right, because
we're in different realms here,but some really actionable
recommendations that are veryholistic, very easy to implement
, totally aligned with andtotally spot on different kinds
of information.
And I feel like you know, thereport went from anything from
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the sole purpose to the verynitty gritty of my gut health,
which is really incredible.
And I'm just yeah, I'm amazedand hearing about your process,
I mean it makes sense that youknow the level of training, of
tuning in and you knowdefinitely kind of dictates the
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level of information you'rereceiving and it seems like you
really mastered that.
So I'm just very impressed.
Ashley (18:19):
Oh, thank you.
You know, I think it'sinteresting Like people are
doing this all day long but theydon't realize what they're
doing.
There's that phrase whereattention goes, energy flows.
They're not joking, it's justthat most people they are
focused on worst case scenariosof the negative and sort of like
in quantum physics.
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Wherever you look for theelectron, there it is, and so a
lot of times people theirattention is being caught up in
distractions like social mediaor whatever somebody else wants
from them.
Like when you're scrolling onTikTok or Instagram, somebody
wants your attention and theyhave learned to keep that
attention through dancing orsaying something or whatever.
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And so instead of us directingour attention to what we want or
what we need, we allow othersto direct it, and if we're
listening to news or othersocial media things, people are
programming us constantlythrough words, through images,
through stimulation, versus usdoing it for ourselves.
And so once they've hooked ontoour attention through quantum
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entanglement, we have now comeinto their world instead of them
coming into ours, and so whenwe get hooked up into that, we
may spend I don't know how manyhours of our day either focused
on what we don't want or whathave you, and we're generating
this emotional field that is sostrong.
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It is giving life, it is givingbirth to our thoughts, and so
people again, when they allowthemselves to get hooked into
the negative or the gossip orworst case scenarios, they are
doing the same thing, butthey're doing it in a
destructive way.
So I'm deliberately trying todirect my attention into a
constructive, manifesting,healing way, versus being in an
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unconscious, unaware destructivepattern.
But it's the same energy, it'sjust directed or misdirected.
Same continuum, same spectrumof energy.
It's just how it's directed ofenergy, it's just, you know how
it's directed.
Yuli (20:26):
Now this is, and this is so profound and I think I mean
hopefully more and more peoplerealizing that these days too, I
think there's like a littlemore talk about anything from
like mental diet to, you know,like social media diet right.
Like not in a negative way,about like dieting and
necessarily, you know, in termsof losing weight, but dieting as
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kind of like being moreconscious of like what we're
consuming, and not just in ourphysical bodies but in our, with
all of our receptors, right,and like.
I love that you mentioned thequantum entanglement, because
this is like how personally Ifeel with TikTok as well.
I feel like when I open the app, like I'm not in control of my
reality, things, justinformation flows.
(21:09):
Like I'm not in a controlposition.
You know, information just kindof flows to me and I don't have
much control over it or I don'thave my filters right.
On other platforms, likeInstagram, you can really like
fine tune your feed to actuallybe what you want it to be, which
is more inspiring and upliftingmaybe, but some other platforms
(21:31):
they definitely hunt on that,you know, ability to hook you
into something that you didn't,and when we are in that passive
state, we just consumemindlessly right, just like
overeating, just like you know.
You take that big pack of icecream out of the fridge and a
few minutes later you didn'teven notice that it's gone,
(21:53):
because you were just doing itmindlessly right, you didn't
mean that.
So it's the same with socialmedia and other platforms, and I
think it's just like such asmart way to put it that it is
that entanglement and you'reallowing the other party to have
access to your field.
Ashley (22:13):
Yeah Well, like I said, where attention goes, energy
flows when you give somebodyyour attention, not only do they
consume your energy, theyconsume your time, and so a lot
of people will find they'vescrolled for like four hours or
whatever.
They've just consumed yourenergy and your time and you may
feel weird afterwards.
You might first might feel alittle high because they are
(22:34):
feeding you something that isalmost like a dopamine, hit
through their antics or theirwords or whatever.
So you get a temporary high.
But while you are getting this,this little fix, you are being
consumed, your time is beingconsumed, your attention is
being consumed, your energy isbeing consumed, and so you might
feel depressed or anxious laterand feel like you need to go
(22:54):
back into there for another fix.
But again, every time you dothat, you're being consumed.
When you push the like thelittle heart button, give them
your comments, you are feedinginto the machine.
But it's the interworld of themiddle world.
The middle world is where wehave form, but an interworld,
like heaven and hell areinterworlds.
(23:15):
Your higher self is aninterworld, but the internet
it's another inner.
You know it's a place withoutform, but it's connected like a
web, like they call it, theworldwide web.
You are connected to this hivemind where people are constantly
vying for your energy, yourattention, to boost them up.
(23:37):
So you're feeding them butdraining yourself, you're giving
them, you know your likes andwhatever that gives them the
awards, the accolades, thenumber of users, maybe money,
maybe, whatever it is, and youbecome less of you and more of
them.
Because when you are doing thisquantum physics realm, there is
(23:58):
power of proximity, and thatproximity may mean like, let's
say, you're in just, even inperson with somebody.
If you have a highervibrational person with a lower
vibrational person, that highervibrational person will lower by
a minimum of 30% in energyperformance, mood and what have
(24:18):
you.
And proximity can also includewhatever you spend your time
listening to.
If you're listening to deathmetal, if you are listening to
podcasts or things that are likenegative things about world
events or news media, that stuffcoming to you has a way of
(24:41):
changing your vibration forbetter or worse, and it really
is just through attention.
You immediately become quantumentangled, and so the shamans in
our classes would say don'tlisten to death metal, don't
watch porn, don't watch allthese things that are like
(25:01):
horror movies, because what itdoes to your third eye is
incredibly destructive and ittakes so much to offset it,
because not only do you haveyour mental body in tuned, your
heart chakra, which again hasthe largest electromagnetic
field in your body, youremotions are that heart.
When they've hooked youremotions, they've got you, and
(25:26):
that those emotions are reallywhat power your reality, because
if you're neutral, you don'tget what you want.
Your manifestation doesn'thappen from a neutral space.
It comes from an intenselyemotional space, with repetition
, and so when you're watching orlistening to something that has
hooked you emotionally andforced you to remember your past
(25:48):
, like your broken relationshipor they've, you know, fear
mongering or all the things thatmake you angry or whatever when
they're doing this, they'redirecting your attention, your
energy, as well as your emotions, and whatever they're doing
with your emotions is what iseither draining or feeding your
(26:09):
energetic body.
Yuli (26:12):
Yeah, so true and so powerful.
So, outside of the consumption,conscious consumption how can
we untangle or detangle fromthings that are not for our
highest good?
I mean, in case of media it's alittle easier.
It's more about self-controland just awareness, right, you
(26:34):
know?
In case of people it's a littlemore complicated.
I mean, I wish in our idealworld we always hang out with
only highly vibrational beings,always higher vibration than we
are, but this is not a reality.
Is higher vibration than we are, but this is not a reality.
So what does an average, howcan an average person, protect
their fields from thoseinfluences?
Ashley (26:57):
Well, there's so many different types of influences
and it's sort of like figuringout what you of activities.
So that's number one the musicthat you're listening to.
(27:24):
Make it higher caliber, not allthis cheap stuff.
That's really about degradingwomen or some other thing Again
death metal, or screwingsomebody over.
Just really get rid of thethings that are directing your
attention to those types ofagain, music or media or news or
(27:45):
certain things, but also justreally be conscious of your
relationships.
Oftentimes people get intotrauma bonds or they have
relationships that are verysuperficial, that direct their
attention to, again, negativetopics, or where people just
bond over complaining orcomparing who's sicker than
(28:07):
somebody else, or whatever it is.
If you are around people thatconstantly drain you, this may
be where you have to determinefor yourself if there are some
relationships that need to end,because there are some people
that will constantly talk youout of possibilities to keep you
in a realm that they'recomfortable with.
(28:28):
They want you to stay small sothat they don't feel badly about
themselves, or they just have alimiting belief system.
So this may be where you haveto vet your friend groups or
your peers and that sort ofthing, so that you are not
constantly being programmed tosync up with their energy and
(28:50):
choose higher caliber of people.
Raise your standards foryourself.
Raise your standards for yourphysical diet.
Your exercise for your physicaldiet, your exercise Like really
literally moving your body canchange your frequency, like if
you're jumping or you're runningor you're doing something to
exert yourself.
(29:11):
You stop that adrenaline andcortisol that keep you less than
neutral, because the wholepoint, you know, like raising
your vibration, is you want tobe neutral or better, raising
your vibration as you want to beneutral or better.
Other things that people can doare breath work or meditation,
heart math, where you're puttingyour attention or your
awareness in the area of yourheart or your chest and noticing
(29:31):
the air going in and the airgoing out.
When you are just observingyour breath, you are in neutral,
where you stop the adrenalineand cortisol.
You go back into homeostasiswhere the body can heal itself.
If you want to pair thatneutral breathing with a
positive emotion, like gratitudeor joy or appreciation, then
(29:54):
you can start producing thingslike serotonin, dopamine,
oxytocin, dhea all the happyhormones that your body needs to
feel joyful and amazing.
And the more you get into thisplace of neutral or better, like
non-reaction, the more youstart to attract people and
synchronicities and events,circumstances, relationships
(30:18):
that are alignment with thatrather than the negative.
And so I think one of thethings I try to tell all my
clients is get into a place ofneutral or better.
The Buddhists talk aboutequanimity, non-reaction.
The Egyptians talk about Mott,the cat-headed goddess that is
weighing a heart against afeather.
(30:39):
It is literally the emotional,vibrational heart that if you
are neutral or better, you arenot creating negative karma.
You weigh basically as much asa feather if you are neutral or
better, so you can access thoseheavenly realms, those better
again events, circumstances andrelationships.
So be careful of your diet, becareful of your friend groups,
(31:00):
be careful what you're listeningto or watching, move your body
and listen to your breath andalso be very aware of your
speech.
If you have negative speech, notonly inside your head but also
what you say to other people, itacts like a spell, a curse or
an incantation.
If you say I can never do thisbecause X, y and Z happened to
(31:24):
me in the past, then theuniverse is like okay.
If you say I can do amazingthings and I'm a fabulous person
, the universe is like okay.
It really is like where youdirect your again your attention
and your emotion.
So just being more conscious ofyour speech patterns, because a
lot of times people are reallysuper hard and critical on
(31:47):
themselves and they may even sayjudgmental things to other
people or say something limitingabout themselves to other
people for just out of habit.
So I hope that answers thatquestion out of habit.
Yuli (32:04):
So I hope that answers that question Absolutely.
And now that we talked aboutmore kind of our own protection,
protection of our field and youknow our energy but there's
also something that we talkedabout during our session the
importance to be seen right,especially in this time, is when
there's so much, you know,negative energy and information
out there and how important forthis community, especially of
(32:25):
the healers, the people that arereally working on raising the
earth vibration right, but it'salso important to be seen.
We can't completely ignore someof those channels and be this
is.
You know this is all negative,this is a distractive or
whatever it is, but you knowthere has to be more voices out
there that are pure and you knowin spirit and every other form.
(32:51):
So what is your point of viewof that and how do you do that?
Consciously and intentionallyand powerfully.
Ashley (33:04):
You mean, like, how do healers make themselves seen out
there in the world?
Yeah, so part of that is, youknow, first of all, how do you
see yourself?
I mean it really does startwith the self.
Like do you see yourself assomebody who's wounded?
How do you identify yourself?
Identity is a really a bigthing, and how you show up in
the world, how other people seeyou, how they view you, how they
(33:26):
treat you, is based on how yousee, view and treat yourself.
So part of this like beforeeven being seen out there in the
world really work on your ownpersonal identity, which you can
shift intentionally.
Part of that is like to trulyfigure out what you want
yourself to be.
A lot of shamanic practitionersthat I trained with they said,
(33:47):
instead of focusing on the pastthat you may want to clean up,
sort of like, instead of tryingto get back the pieces of a
shattered mirror, they're sayingcreate a new mirror for
yourself, and it may be aversion of yourself that you
have never been.
It could be this world-renownedspeaker or healer or what.
Have you Really get that visionset in your mind and tap into
(34:10):
what that feels like, as if youare that person.
Where are they in the world?
So if a person is a healer, Igot to tell you guys, yeah,
sometimes we can be found.
Just one person can put us onthe map.
(34:30):
One person if you reallybelieve in yourself and you
really show up, you're going toemit this frequency that is so
attractive, so magnetic thatpeople want to work with you
because you actually believe inyourself.
That's why I'm saying it wantto work with you because you
actually believe in yourself.
That's why I'm saying it has tostart with you.
So if you tap into yourself andnot from an arrogant or
(34:50):
egotistical point of view, butyou are so passionate about what
you do and you believe in notonly the work but you as the
practitioner, you're going toattract people to you.
And the more you do that, youalso build up confidence to put
yourself out there.
And that could be public talksfor individuals or groups really
(35:13):
letting the world know that youexist.
Because even the term shamanismpeople sometimes sometimes get
freaked out by the word,thinking that you're going to be
connecting with demons oryou're going to be doing blood
sacrifices or something to thateffect, because there's a
misunderstanding of whatshamanism is but just really
(35:35):
getting clear about not only whoyou are and being passionate
about it, but what is themessage that you want the world
to know?
What is it that you want theworld to achieve through your
work and figuring out what isthe best way to share that
message or get the word outabout you and that work?
(35:55):
So, again, being willing to dopublic talks, being willing to
maybe do something on Facebookor Instagram or YouTube that's
informative to people, becausethere really is a business
aspect to being a healer.
You can, of course, go work forsomebody else, but if you want
(36:16):
to be an entrepreneur, you dohave to play the game a little
bit, and that's where you have awebsite presence.
That's where you may have,again, these little blurbs on
something like Instagram or whathave you, not just to draw
people to your site, but toreally be informative about
getting people to heal theirenergy, heal their mind, heal
(36:37):
their body, their soul, whateverit is mind, heal their body,
their soul, whatever it is.
Yuli (36:46):
That's very beautifully said and any other parallels
that you see between theprinciples of the quantum world
right and the spiritual worldthat we're trying to build, that
we're building with the lightworkers and the healers, this
whole layer of people on thisplanet that is actively working
to raise the vibrations,Anything, any other principles
(37:07):
we can use to become bettermagnets.
Ashley (37:11):
So you've probably heard as above, so below, as within,
so without.
A lot of people they sort ofmisconstrue what this is.
It's the law of correspondence.
It's one of the universal laws.
What they mean by as above, sobelow, what you think in your
head is what is put into yourbody.
So whatever not only whateverthoughts you're thinking affects
(37:34):
your emotions, but you canliterally make yourself well or
make yourself sick.
That was something that I haddone.
I had destroyed my healththrough my thinking, but I also
cured myself of a terminaldisease through the same thing,
with enough emotional intensityand repetition.
So, as above so below, becareful of your thoughts,
because they will sink into yourbody, but as within, so without
(37:56):
.
Again, whatever you're thinkingand what you're feeling is
what's going to be reflected toyou in the outer world.
And so if you think the world'sgoing to hell, guess what
You're going to see evidence ofit.
But if you focus on seeing theworld as healed and what your
role is in that, then you willbe part of raising the vibration
(38:18):
of other people.
When you're dealing with people,if you're a healer oftentimes
like a lot of my shamanicpractitioners or teachers that
they're trying to teach us issee the person whole.
If you just see their illnessesand make yourself responsible
for fixing them, then you arereally limiting your range.
But if you see this person isalready whole and you keep
(38:40):
fixating on them going into afully healed state, you're
seeing their perfection.
You are anchoring in throughquantum entanglement a fully
healed individual, regardless ifyou are responsible for it or
not.
So a lot of practitioners try toput their energy into somebody
and make themselves responsiblefor the timing and the way in
(39:04):
which somebody heals.
But if you really anchor inthat they are fully healed
already, not only do you speedup that process for them, but
you also allow for the universeto work on healing them without
your participation.
And so part of this is againnot focusing on the problems and
then talking to other peopleabout it, because that is
(39:26):
constructive or destructiveinterference, where you have two
or more people coming togetherto talk about negativity and you
amplify that negativity.
But you can have constructiveinterference where you have two
people talking about positivethings and really like coming
together as groups or pairs orwhatever to create a better
(39:48):
reality out there.
So truly focus on the earthbecoming healed, the earth
getting better, people waking up.
So don't get together andcomplain about what's going on
in the world, go like see itwhole and really inspire people
to see themselves as alreadyhealed.
Yuli (40:07):
Such a beautiful analogy and I love the idea of
constructive interference.
I want to maybe rename thispodcast because I just love this
idea and I can imagine the allthe waves and the particles
being amplified.
(40:28):
That vision, Ashley, we arerunning out of time.
I feel like we could talk forhours.
This is just such deep, deepsubjects and you're just a
wealth of knowledge.
We might have to do a follow-upepisode.
I'm just warning you.
I would love it.
Any last quick words of wisdom.
Ashley (40:50):
Yeah, I would just say to people really be clear with
not only for yourself and theuniverse about really what you
want.
Don't be afraid to dream andreally have unwavering faith
literally, quite literally,unwavering faith in your vision
and see it done and keeppracticing that over and over,
(41:11):
and over and over again until itbecomes a reality.
Do not allow yourself to waver.
Don't let anybody talk you outof possibilities.
Keep the power of your dreamsto yourself, like a little baby
in the womb that is forming, andkeep feeding it whatever energy
you need until that baby comesinto fruition, when it stops
(41:33):
being just a thought and anemotion inside your body and
really starts to come out in theexternal world.
Allow yourself to truly be themother, the God figure in that
reality in which you haveunwavering faith in your dreams,
even if your other five sensessay it's impossible.
Forget the five senses right now, because I'm going to tell you,
(41:55):
as a person who has healed aterminal disease, seizures and
strokes, you can make theimpossible possible through
enough intensity and repetition.
So just truly be, understand orconvince yourself, however you
need to, that what you havechosen has also chosen you and
that it is absolutely devotingits entire existence to being
(42:18):
one with you.
So that's really what I'mreally trying to put out there
to you that really be devoted,believe that you have been
chosen by the people and thethings that you have wanted, and
do not cheat on those dreamswith fears and with doubts and
with anything else.
Just really be 100,000% devotedto what you seek.
Yuli (42:44):
So beautiful and deep and powerful.
Ashley, you're such a gift.
Thank you so much again.
So just grateful to meet you,to have a chance to share your
wisdom with our listeners.
So please, please, keep doingwhat you do.
Thank you.
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