July 2, 2025 • 48 mins
Living and Thriving with Lupus: A Conversation with Shedrica Holmes | The Health Bridge Podcast
In this episode of the Health Bridge Podcast, host Holly B. engages in a compelling conversation with Shedrica Holmes, a lupus warrior and the voice behind 'Lupus Speaks' and 'Chronically Planned.' Diagnosed with lupus in 2008, Shedrica shares her journey from simply surviving to creating a life rooted in faith, flexibility, and purpose. Shedrica discusses how she uses planning and a positive mindset to navigate her chronic illness, advocate for her health, and build a community for other women facing similar battles. She elaborates on the importance of celebrating life experiences, managing stress, and the transformative power of maintaining vision and clarity. Whether you're dealing with a chronic illness or striving to be an entrepreneur, this episode offers invaluable insights and inspiration. Don't miss out on Shedrica’s practical tips on creating flow in life and business, holding your vision, and becoming the person capable of achieving your dreams. Tune in for an inspiring discussion filled with actionable advice and heartfelt stories.
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Time Stamps:
00:00 Welcome to the Health Bridge Podcast
00:08 Introducing Shedrica Holmes: A Lupus Warrior
01:38 Shedrica's Journey with Lupus
02:06 Creating Flow in Business and Life
02:50 Celebrating Life with Lupus
17:40 The Importance of Planning
24:00 The Journey to the End Game
24:34 The Importance of Details in Planning
26:01 Finding Your Why and Vision
26:49 The Growth Process and Letting Go
34:01 The Role of Faith in the Journey
38:33 Resources for Entrepreneurial Success
42:04 Final Thoughts and Encouragement
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Hello and welcome to theHealth Bridge Podcast.
I'm your host, Holly b.Today I have a really great
conversation with Shedrica Holmes.
Shedrica is a mama, a lupuswarrior, and the voice behind lupus
speaks and chronically planned.
Shedrica, has been living with lupus since2008, and over the years she's learned how
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to stop just surviving and start creatinga life that actually works for her.
One that is rooted in faith,flexibility, and purpose.
Through her podcast, herworkshops and digital tools,
She helps other women, especiallychronic illness warriors, figure
out how to plan their lives aroundreal energy, not hustle, and still
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show up for what matters most.
Whether it's building a business,advocating for their health, or just
making it through a flare with grace,she's all about keeping it real and
making space for healing and impact.
Shedrica is someone who I've beengetting to know over the last few
months, and I just love her joyfulapproach to, living with lupus, to
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being a chronic entrepreneur as shecalls it, and to creating a life that.
Can flow with her chronic illness ratherthan, continually butt up against it.
And I love that she is helping otherwomen do the same thing through
her chronically planned platform.
Of which I am now a part of.
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I've been working with her, justover the last few weeks and I'm
really enjoying her community.
So in this conversation,we get to know Shedrica.
We hear about her lupus journeyand her experience, and.
How she has learned to really movethrough her lupus journey with faith,
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with planning, and with, just creatinga vision for her future and the things
that she wants to express into the world.
So in this conversation we talk abouthow to create more flow in business,
How to hold your vision for what youwant to express in the world, even when
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life feels really heavy, even when youare going through a flare and how we
may have to let go of certain thingsin our life in order to create that
vision and bring it into fruition.
We might have to shift our health habits.
We might have to shift our relationships.
We might have to learn how to thinkabout and approach things in a
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different way in order to become theperson that can create that vision.
So in this inspiring conversation,we start out by talking about
celebrating our life experiences.
And I know that you're going to beinspired by this conversation whether
you have a chronic illness or not,whether you are an entrepreneur or not.
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There are so many.
Just positive takeaways fromthis conversation that you can
apply to your life no matterwhat part of life you are in.
Before we start, I would love to ask youto just take a quick second to like and
subscribe to this podcast because that isagain, how we grow the podcast, how we get
in front of more eyes and ears and exposepeople to the possibilities that are
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really here when it comes to empowermentin your own health and life journey.
Thank you for doing that.
And now let's get into the episode.
Shedrica, welcome to the podcast.
We have gotten to know each other alittle bit over the last couple months
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and I am just thrilled to have you here.
So welcome.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me.
I'm excited to have this conversation.
So you are a fellow lupus sister and we'regonna definitely get into your story.
Um.
But I wanna start by asking you, whyis it that you celebrate having lupus?
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It's not necessarily mecelebrating having lupus.
It's me celebrating thelife that I have with Lupus.
So it's not like an, it'snot a overly hype situation.
It is just more, it issomething to celebrate.
It is, I get to share my story.
You know, I, it is, I, it is just.
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Something about having this, uh,experience is something to celebrate
because of what I can do with it.
So I feel like that'swhy, because why not?
We can celebrate anything we want to.
Well, I love that approach to life isthat it should be a celebration even
in the tough times because we canlearn things from those hard times.
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And the thing with lupus is.
Or any chronic illness or any majorlife altering change is that we
oftentimes start out by saying,I just wanna get back to normal.
I just wanna get back to how things were.
But when we look at it that way,we're, we're trying to get back
to the things that led up to.
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This illness occurring,so we don't mind that.
Yeah.
You living on the past,
that past experience, and it's likeyou have to have a new light or what
life is like with this condition andreflecting on the past just keeps
you sad.
It does.
It keeps you sad.
It keeps you stuck.
And so it's like, who were we before?
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But now who can we becomethrough this illness?
Right.
You were speaking recently,um, at our last meeting about
who you're becoming mm-hmm.
Chronically becoming.
Yes.
That's my book title by theway, so don't nobody take it.
I love it.
Expand on that more.
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What does chronicallybecoming mean to you?
Chronically becoming is basically what Istarted with, you know, celebrating life.
With the condition.
And it's not saying that it is this, uh,mindset of where people can remove, you
know, or heal or, it's, it's everything.
It's, it's just that I'm becoming,but I am, when I say chronically, it's
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the definition of the word of likeobsessively doing something, you know?
And it's like I'm excessively gonna livemy life regardless of this condition,
illness, whatever you wanna call it.
Is what I call it.
You know, it's a journey.
You never.
Gonna always, like, for me,becoming is never really an end.
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It's always evolving,it's always changing.
It's always, you know, I don'twanna be my 25-year-old self.
I don't wanna be my 30 5-year-old self,you know, I'm in this pushing this 40
page, you know, and I'm like, okay.
So I'm always becoming something differentand I don't wanna be what I used to be.
You know?
I wanna learn, I wanna have, use mywisdom from these experiences and, and
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become better so chronically becoming,because it never ends, it's always going.
I love that we're, yeah, we'reconstantly evolving and growing.
Should we choose?
Right?
We can choose stuck orwe can choose growth.
So I love that.
Yeah.
I love that approach.
Um, tell us more about your lupus journey.
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When did it start and howhave you moved through it?
Sure.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I don't know what kind of podcast thisis, but I'm gonna just be so real.
Please do it.
It started from men, man,
I, I, I, I take that back 'causethat's me, you know, putting blame
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on a person or a situation, butI'll say this, from what I know now,
it is neglecting my own wellbeing.
Caring and giving more than what I should.
Loving harder and inexperienced inlove in a way that wasn't healthy.
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You know, not setting boundaries,not respecting myself, not having
the, the work that I needed to havein order to sustain myself, um,
emotionally, spiritually, and physically.
So that lack caused me to, uh,my body to respond and alert
me that something was going on.
So I feel like that's where it started.
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Um, it definitely trickleddown in some experiences that
I did not think would happen.
Um, I never heard of Lupus before, soit was definitely not even a shocker
because even when I was gettingthis diagnosis, um, I went with the
boyfriend that I had at the time.
I went with his mother.
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She took off of her job to take me becauseshe could realize that something was
wrong, like something was making me sick,but she just didn't know what it was.
So she took me and I got adiagnosis that day, and this
was just a regular urgent care.
Um, and they said it was lupus,and she just said, oh no.
And I was like.
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I got the cooties.
What going on?
Like I didn't know what it was.
And even just at that time, this was 2008.
Um, even back then, the libraryreally didn't have books with a lot
of information about lupus, so it wasvery hard for me to like understand and
even knowing what I know now, readingabout it doesn't give you a glimpse of
what it actually is to live through it.
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But, uh, long storyshort, I got my diagnosis.
I did not take it seriously because Ididn't understand what I was about to get.
You know, I didn't take my medicine,you know, I didn't, you know,
really pay attention to the signs ofwhat my body was telling me to do.
So I suffered a lot.
Um, I got to the point whereI couldn't speak, you know,
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I wasn't able to talk at all.
I wasn't able to walk.
Um, I had to go through.
Uh, different types of therapies, physicaltherapy, occupational therapy, speech
therapy, just to obtain everything back.
Um, I was pretty much inhospice care because I was
just so sick and malnutrition.
I got down to like 80 pounds.
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Um, but that was like theexperience of the worst of it.
And still to this day, I don'tthink it's the worst of it because
I also experience chronic highs.
And to me that's worse because.
That internal it that you cannot scratch.
I wish that on no one, the skinburning and being on fire, I wish
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that on no one because anythingthat touches you, it just.
Like unbearable.
But I mean, I've experienced thejoint pain, the hair loss, the weight
loss, the weight gain from prednisone,the deterioration of your bones.
So it's just been a journey.
You know, I done been 180 pounds to110, like, you know, it just fluctuates.
But I still five beauty in it.
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That is, that's a long journey.
And you've been experiencing,when did you get your diagnosis?
October, 2008.
October the 15th.
2008.
Oh eight.
Yeah.
So that's all we're you'reclosing in on 20 years now?
Mm-hmm.
And what's different about your storyis you got a diagnosis really quick.
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Mm-hmm.
Which is something I don't hear often.
Usually people take.
5, 6, 7 years to get that diagnosis.
I find it very profound as wellbecause I feel like, how did
he even know to test for that?
You know, like how did he know that thesymptoms that I was giving, so to that,
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you know, urgent care doctor who justknew what I was sharing and was able to
like, hmm, let me get her an a NA, I mean,because that's the only way I have the a
NA test, you know, results from that day.
So.
That was, it didn't take long at all.
At all, but I did suffer, you know,maybe like a year before that with
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just signs of just the, like I wassaying, the highs and the skin itching,
the hair loss, the weight loss.
So I was like already going through it.
But I, when I did go to doctors,they would just be like, oh, she
just has eczema, or she has, youknow, something like this and that.
So they were just treating my symptoms.
They weren't really, uh,helping me get through.
What was actually it likemaking me itch, so, yeah.
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Right.
They weren't trying toget to the root cause.
They just treated it asa surface level symptom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very common, unfortunately.
But I think that's a blessing that youwere able to get a diagnosis so quick when
you finally went to seek out that help.
Yeah.
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Have you always been a passionate.
Creative, entrepreneurial minded woman?
Yes and no.
Um, I say yes because I've always,the way God made me, I'm very,
uh, passionate about giving.
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And so I, I, I always been theperson that shared information,
or, or girl, lemme tell you whereI, I never like gatekeep anything.
I always was a shared, like a,even in school, they would be
like, I know Sharif got the notes.
You know, I was alwayslike the paper pen girl.
Like, I always just like to writestuff down and be super organized
with my pens and colors like.
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Like I, I saw this um, thing back,uh, this will been long ago, but
it used to say, if you have time tofold your panties, then you, then
you got too much time in your hands.
But I'll literally fold my panties.
I'll put them in color quarter.
I will organize my closet like that,like my clothes is by the color,
because in my mind, that's how it works.
I love that.
I've always been like passionateabout what I, it's like if
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you gonna do something, giveyour best every single time.
So yes, I've always been likethat, but then I've had my moments
where I'm like, man, this sucks.
I don't wanna do that.
Whatever.
But I feel like it's not even that.
I feel, I know that being a motherchanged that and made it more, uh,
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driven to, to be more intentional.
About the things that I, thatI do, how I think, how I plan,
how I visualize what I speak.
It's, it's different.
And you feel that Lupus has broughtmore of that out in you as well?
Or how has Lupus, I guess, affectedthe way you go about life and
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the way you do the things thatyou're passionate about doing?
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And now back to the episode.
I think that Lupus definitely,it, it gave me some.
Because I never, okay, so you know howpeople grow up and they're like, oh, I
wanna be a doctor, I wanna be a nurse.
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I wanna be a school too.
My answer was always, I wanna be a mom.
Um, but my father, he used to tell methat I, you know, when I was younger, that
you're gonna be a speaker or that you'regonna be a news anchor, you're gonna be
on tv, you're gonna be all these things.
And I never saw that for myself.
I don't know.
I really, oh, I do rememberwhat I wanted to be.
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I wanted to be interior decorator.
But I never thought that it wouldtake me like what Lupus has given me.
I don't, I didn't never seelike what it was gonna do.
Like I just knew that Iwanted to do something.
'cause I like to give, I like to share.
So that's kind of like where mypodcast came from because I was
like, I'm just gonna tell peoplewhat it is really like, you know?
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And it just kind of went from there.
And so now you are essentially ontv, so to speak with this podcast.
Mm-hmm.
I love that.
So your, your father saw that visionand saw that it would come out.
Love it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So your mother, that's, I don't havekids, so to me that is like mindbogglingly
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challenging to plan anything around.
Having kids and all the daily activities.
I have a chihuahua and that takesenough of my energy, like I can't
even imagine adding onto that.
Right.
And I, I'm laughing at myself as I saythat, but it's kind of true, you know,
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just keeping up with daily life as it is.
Cooking, cleaning, going to the grocerystore, walking the dog, you know, add
kids on top of that, you've got two otherlives or however many kids you have.
You've got multiple other livesthat you have to manage, and
if you're passionate, you have.
You know, whatever entrepreneurialjourney you're on, or whatever creative
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journey you're on in life, whateveryour passions are, they can fall to
the wayside so easily, and that'swithout even having a chronic illness.
I'd love for you to kindof talk about how you use.
Being chronically planned
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to create more flow and successand ease in your life and, um,
you know, what a difference it'smade for you in your journey.
Well, being chronicallyplanned is essential.
I. Because as you cansay, I got a lot going on.
So if I do not have my paper planned ormy phone, some type of digital something,
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some type of plan, it's gonna be chaos.
I'm not gonna be on time.
I'm not gonna know what we eating.
I'm not gonna know how Ifelt or thought yesterday.
I need to be chronicallyplanned, obsessively planned.
I need to budget, I need to content plan.
I need to like.
I'm able to produce, I'm able to executebecause I have these plans set up
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because my brain only works like that.
Like me being unplanned.
You know me, not apparently becauseI didn't plan my content for June,
'cause I'm distracted a little.
I haven't posted, you know, like,but if I have a plan, I execute.
So it's essential in my life to,to, to stay on top of my goals, my
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dreams, just even my chores, like,okay, today is laundry day today.
I need to get these dishes out thedishwasher and reload the dishwash.
You know, like I, it's very detailed.
But otherwise, I would lay around.
I would, I would lay aroundbecause I don't feel like there is
something that I need to really do.
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But if I have a plan, even if I really,you know, have a plan and it doesn't
go as planned, that's still okay.
But the intention is still there.
So I always ask myself,what can I do from here?
And then I would justtry to implement that.
But it's essential.
It's a tool, it's a, and thateven planning is a process.
It's a journey.
It's a journey of becoming,because you could start one way.
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With just a thought or concept.
And then it ends up, once you plan it,it ends up being a real tangible thing.
That idea is no longer idea.
It is a real asset to something thatyou created from your mind and you, and
took notes and and, and made it happen.
So that's chronically planned.
Like as a, as a mom, as a chronicentrepreneur, as a, as a giver, a lover
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of life, um, it has to happen that way.
I mean, I can personally test, andI know we've talked about this.
I am, I have big visions, I have bigideas, I have big goals, but getting it
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out of my head and creating something.
On paper, writing down actionablesteps is challenging for me and
I end up scrambling day to day.
Mm-hmm.
And so every day it's like,okay, what am I posting today?
Or what is my task today?
Like, shoot, what?
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What's coming up next week?
What do I have to plan for?
And it's keeps me in this constantstate and I'm getting better at it.
And you're helping me by the.
You know, it keeps me in this constantstate of underlying stress and overwhelm.
Mm-hmm.
You
can get it and yeah.
And as we know as women with lupus oranyone with a chronic illness, uh, stress
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is a huge trigger for flares and fatigue.
And so how do you help women?
Start to structure their days structure,their weeks structure, their month,
so that they can have that, thosebackup plans for if they wake up.
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And you know, they might've had,you know, three important tasks
on their schedule for that day.
But you know, they've had a flare.
I'm too tired, I'm too fatigued to get.
Everything done that Iwanted to do for that day.
So how do we create flow withinplanning out, you know, our,
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our days, our weeks, our months?
So it's several components to thisin, in my beliefs, and that is belief.
You know what I mean?
That is your foundation, which is faithand having vision, you know, having,
because for me it's clear that if youhave some type of vision, then that
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doesn't take away, you know, the, thepurpose, you know what I'm saying?
Like what you actually ultimately get to.
So yeah, I, I probably had a,a, a paid community as a vision
as a plan for like two years.
You know, so it doesn't just 'causeyou wrote it down that day or for
that week doesn't mean that it'sgonna happen right then and there.
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You also have pace thatyou have to go through.
Sometimes you have to becomea certain type of person.
Sometimes maybe you gotta give up somethings, you gotta let go Some things,
you gotta become things before you caneven have what you saying that you want.
So it's a, it is a process.
Um.
When it comes to me helping,I just help you get clear.
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I just help you understand andbreak down and brainstorm of what
those visions and goals look like.
So that way you are able to bevery, um, not disciplined, but very,
like, super focused on what thatis, like what that looks like.
Um, very detailed is the wordI was looking for, because the
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details do, they do matter.
Um, so it's like, okay, my vision,let's just give an example.
We use the Inner Circle.
I want a newsletter, you know,but I don't know where to start.
I don't know what to say, whoI'm writing to, blah, blah, blah.
But I do know I want a newsletter.
Okay.
Well, how much of your timedo you wanna commit to this?
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You know, do you wantto email once a month?
Do you want to email once a week?
Do you wanna do it twice a week?
Okay.
I wanna talk to women about this.
This is what we're gonna talk about.
Okay.
Then you break down like it's so,like, it's just so many layers
before you get to the, the end game.
And that's why I said it takes alot of peeling back and, and growing
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and becoming certain things beforeyou can even get to the end result.
Like my daddy told me that I wasgonna be a speaker years ago, but he
didn't say I was gonna have lupus.
I was gonna go through these breakupsthat I was gonna have all these.
Turn, like I don't have the two kids,but you know, he didn't say the stuff in
between before I got to where I am today.
So it's, it's always about thedetails, the in between before you
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get to where you're getting to.
Um, so when it comes to planning, itis really just knowing the detail,
clarity, um, being able to, uh,'cause I feel like I'm so passionate
about it is because I do know thedetails, so it's like, just do it.
Like, 'cause who else is, you know, like,it might not sound simple, but I feel like
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when you know where you going, you go,you know, when you know you need to get to
the mailbox and you know where the mailboxat, you just get up and go to the mailbox.
Like, it don't, it don't take that much.
It's very clear, you know, youknow that that's Stanley Cup gonna
keep your ice in your water cold.
So you go make sure you,it's like the details matter.
The detail is that this cupholds the ice for 24 hours.
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So, you know.
Like it's, it could be, I don't know.
I hope I'm explaining it right,but it is, it is all in the detail.
So getting clear about what youwanna do and how you do it, and
I just help you figure that out.
That's basically what it's becauseI can't write it down for you.
I can't make you do it.
I can only help you get clearand let's figure out the pace.
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Let's figure out your energy.
Let's figure out.
What you have the capacity todo right now in this season.
Maybe you gotta unlearn something.
Maybe you gotta take yourself,um, off of something.
Maybe you gotta be disciplined.
Maybe you gotta let go of person.
Maybe you gotta let go of things,bad habits, like I'll help you
get clear on the details so thatway you are able to execute and
we'll just create a plan together.
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Yeah.
Um, creating the plan is essential,but again, like you were saying, first
you have to have that vision, andI think part of having that vision
is also having a why behind it.
Absolutely.
Why is that vision important to you?
You know?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Like, I know for you and for me,part of our passion behind what we're
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doing with our coaching businesses is.
We felt the pain of being stuck.
We felt the pain of being sick.
We want to help other women, especiallyother passionate, creative individuals
who have these visions for whatthey wanna do, entrepreneurially.
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Um, we wanna help them shorten thatlearning gap, shorten the learning
curve so they can reach them sooner.
Right.
But you're so, you're so rightin saying that there are so
many layers of things that.
Have to take place inorder to reach that vision.
And that's, that's the growth process.
And sometimes we have to, likeyou said, let go of things like
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go of patterns, like of habits.
It's, it's that process of the becomingversus trying to stay who you are.
Yeah.
You can, can't stay
who you are.
You can't
wanna healthy body and then eat bad.
Right, like you, the want you do.
It is not, doesn't matter,but how bad do you want it?
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That's always my question to myself.
What's the other people's like, howbad you want it because you gonna have
to get that up, you know what I mean?
So, or you gonna haveto do this, you ready?
You know, are you ready to pay?
Are you ready?
You know, are you ready to invest?
Because at the end of the day, you'regonna have to invest something, put some
kind of discipline, some kind of sacrificein order to obtain what you want.
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You can't just write it on a paperand let it be some cliff notes.
Like you really gotta like look at it andbe like, do I really, how bad I want this?
And yo, why is very important.
And you're absolutely right.
So knowing your why, gettingclear is definitely a part of the,
becoming part of the process, apart of being chronically planned.
And being willing to beuncomfortable in the process.
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Oh, it's uncomfortable just notbeing in no process, like Right.
The, the way this world going.
Everything uncomfortable.
So, I mean, we already uncomfortable.
We need to get uncomfortablewith being too uncomfortable.
Right, right.
We so uncomfortable, comfortablewith being uncomfortable.
We just let it be like, no.
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So, yeah.
It's again layers.
Right, right.
Well it's interesting, isn't it?
Because we get, like you said, we'realready uncomfortable, but we're
comfortable with that discomfort 'causewe already know what that feels like.
Mm-hmm.
We have to get comfortablewith taking that next step into
that next level of discomfort.
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In order to grow, grow, and in order towork through things and in order to leave
those things behind so you can become thatnext version of you, that next upgrade.
Right?
Yeah.
And I can tell you from mypersonal experience, I mean,
I've been on this entrepreneurialjourney for quite some time.
And the layers, the layers, thelayers, the layers that have had to be.
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Acknowledged, worked on peeled through,just to get to the point where I am
comfortable using my voice where Iam comfortable starting this podcast
where I'm comfortable, you know, havinga sales conversation with somebody.
Yeah, I mean.
Ooh, it runs deep.
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Yes.
I'm, look, me just being comfortableto be on the live or do, like, I was
so, like, ooh, it made me cringe.
Hey, I just wanted to jumpin here and interrupt the
program for just a hot minute.
You know that I'm so passionateabout this podcast, but what I'm
also really passionate about ishelping women with lupus minimize
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their symptoms, boost their energy sothat they can indulge in life again.
So if you are a woman.
Who is struggling with lupus, whois sick and tired of being sick and
tired, who is struggling to manageyour flares if you're finding that
your lupus symptoms are just reallygetting in the way of you being able
to live your life the way you want to.
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I feel you.
I've been there myself, andI've felt the same way, and what
I've found is that there are.
A certain set of health fundamentalsthat once applied will support
you in your foundational health.
They will support you in building andmaintaining that energy, minimizing
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flares, and allowing you to again,indulge in life and follow your passions.
So if that is something that you areinterested in creating for yourself,
let's jump on a call together.
I will walk you through the process that Iuse with my clients to get them from sick
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and tired to Strong Foundation of Healthby implementing my Health Bridge Protocol.
If this is something you're interestedin chatting more about, I would love
to talk to you, apply for a freeclarity call with me, and I look
forward to getting to know you soon.
And now back to the episode.
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So it's like I'm, and, and honestly itjust makes me more confident and it has,
because my belief is being built up.
So it's like I believe that this nextstage or season of my life is, is so
close that when start stuff startsto happen and I'm just like, oh.
I'm like, girl, you.
You real close because they tryingto like, keep you from doing it and
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stuff is trying to keep you from, keepyou down, but you, you this close.
So it's like that vision beingthere is like, okay, I'm close.
Don't give up right here.
This is what, you know.
'cause a lot of people give up rightin the moment when they right there
and it's like just keeping the visionclear, keeping the purpose, keeping
your why and, and, and being like just,just, just like, how bad do you want it?
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How bad do you want a healthier body?
How bad do you want?
A relationship with God.
How bad do you want to build community?
How bad do you want a successful podcast?
How, how bad those, it's not even awhy, it's just like how bad, like, you
know, real bad or bit bad, you know?
Take it from there because maybe youdon't know what you haven't discovered.
Why?
You know, sometimes we're in seasonswhere I don't know why I'm doing this.
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I don't really know why.
I feel like I wanna share,you know what I'm saying?
I don't know why I wanna help people.
Sometimes you don't know why,but just knowing how bad you want
or the desire, something desire,you know, will get you there.
So yeah, I said mouthful,
but you're right.
The, the desire And, um, what Iwas gonna add to that too, is.
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Uh, you're saying you're so close,you're so close, it's gonna ha you
know, always training your mind to lookfor the evidence that this is working,
to look for the evidence that you're,you're getting closer to that vision
is a huge mindset shift because it's soeasy, especially I think, with chronic
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illness, to find the evidence of.
Oh, I'm having another flare.
Oh, this is gonna trigger something.
Oh, you know, I'm fearful of that food.
Or Oh, you know, and we'realways looking for the, the
evidence on the negative side.
Well, if you can train yourself to lookfor and seek out the evidence on the other
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side of where things are going, right.
Even if it's just like,well, the sun came up today.
You know, even if that's all you canfind is that the sun came up today.
That's still evidence thatthings are progressing, right?
Mm-hmm.
So yeah, I think having those subtlemindset, mindset shifts are, are huge.
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And in both your health experience,your life experience, your
entrepreneurial experience, um,and I was, you've mentioned faith a
few times and I'd love to know likewhat role does faith play for you?
Journey.
This journey.
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I
mean, it's the only rolenot, I mean, because,
you know, I, I do believe inGod, um, and I do believe in
something bigger than me, you know?
And I just feel like sometimeswhen you are going through
things, it's not what you anyway.
You know, sometimes you argue as avessel or a testimony just because
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like what I might be saying to youtoday probably touched so many people.
Or it could touch one person and that oneperson go and get their life together.
Like, oh, let me get my planner.
You know what I'm saying?
Let me get chronically plan, becausewhat she's saying that her joy,
whatever she getting, I want that.
You know what I mean?
So that's all that matters.
So having that faith and believing thatI'm getting poured into in that way.
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Being able to pour it back out.
Um, I'm just a believer in, in goodthings and, and that good things.
You good, you do good.
You get good back.
You know, I mean, that'sa universal thing.
That's a, that's a, that's justa thing, you know, whatever.
You pour it out, you get back in and itmay not look like exactly how you put it
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out, but it could be that somebody else.
You didn't wake up, but you did.
Like it could be that simple.
It don't have to be like,oh, I gotta, you know.
'cause I like to say whenpeople see people have things.
You know, oh, she's smiling.
Oh, her skin is clear.
Oh, she ain't big.
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She's skinny.
She, you know, got kids.
She got, this is, do you knowwhat I had to go through?
Do you want my story?
Do you want my story to get what I have?
No.
So go your own way.
Go your own journey.
Have faith and belief inwhat you want, and that's it.
Like whatever you have faith in,whatever you believe in you are right.
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You know, if you believe in yours.
If you believe that it'swrong, you, you are right.
You know, like, so it's, it's, it's sucha big component in what you believe.
It's, it's, it's all in the mind.
You can make yourself believe the mosthorrific things about yourself, about what
you doing, about other people, about life.
And you are absolutely rightbecause you believe that.
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So faith is everything.
I hope that your question,
uh, it absolutely answers my.
That's something that I'velearned myself is yes, what
you believe in is true, period.
Period.
And that can mean like, I've had togo through my own journey with that.
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And that's why I always start withmindset with my coaching clients
because I used to think that I wasjust very realistic in what I believed.
Mm-hmm.
Things were more blackand white things were, um.
You know, in, in regards to my health,it's like, well, I have a chronic illness.
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That's forever.
Right?
Well, sure, that sounds, I thoughtthat was just super realistic or I
am not qualified to get a better job.
I've never learned what ittakes to get that better job.
I'm stuck in customer service.
Right.
I thought that was just very realistic.
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You know, I don't know enough to be abusiness owner realistic, but when it
comes down to it, those are just storiesthat I'm choosing to tell myself or that
I believe that other people have told me.
Absolutely.
It doesn't make them true.
Right?
It's not necessarily true that I'mgonna have this chronic illness forever.
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And like you said, where's the evidence?
Where's the evidence?
Yeah.
Look for the evidence, right?
Mm-hmm.
So, um, I think it's really importantto become aware of what words we're
saying to ourselves, how we're describingour own situation, and just shifting
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those things alone can make a huge.
Change and shift in our health, in our,in our life overall, in our success and
whatever we decide to put our feet into.
Shedrica how are you working with people?
Um, what resources are you sharingwith people to help them on
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their entrepreneurial journeys?
So right now I am offering,um, um, planning planner
audits and strategy sessions.
They are a hour and we just kind ofsit down and break down to get clear.
Even like whether you're using aplanner right now or not, I can help
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you strategize and come up with astrategy to be able to be consistent.
And then I also offer the inner circle.
Um, the doors are closed right now, butI'm reopening them up in the fall, so
I will be having a wait lists coming,but that's pretty much just whole
space for community for, um, thatone-on-one without, with me, with group.
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'cause you know, sometimes somebody mightask a question that you didn't think
about, but they be like, Ooh, that helped.
You know what I'm saying?
So just having that unit, you canattest to that of like, what it's
like because you're in a circle.
I'm, but those are, Imean, just, it's just.
A, a vibe, a playing a party,a a, a knowledge, awareness of
different ways you can use thingsto, to, to be more organized and
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more connected with who you are.
And just, it's just all aboutawareness, you know, really.
Um, and holding yourself accountable.
So those are the ways that peoplecan, um, work with people right now.
But I do offer some digital products,um, as far as a faith-based journal.
And, um, there's some otherthings that I'm coming up with.
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Um, a chronic content plannerfor those who need to really just
get clear in what they do as faras content and stuff like that.
So I'm working on those projects,but right now I just have the
faith-based, uh, prayer journal andjust some free resources, please.
So plan with your body, start apack where you can kind of like
gauge where you are and sink acycle sinking and things like that.
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So, yeah.
And you have a podcast.
Oh.
Yeah, thank you.
Because that's the, that's the all,be all, you know, it starts there.
Um, yes.
And I have the podcast formerly calledLupus Speak, but it is now chronically
planned podcast, and you can find allthese juicy stories of all these people
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who have life experiences and how theyare able to change their lives and, and,
and do something and, and, and be ready.
So.
I love it.
I love it.
Well, I'm enjoying, I knowyour inner circle just started.
We just started and I'm really enjoyingbeing in it and being in that community
and, um, and your joy is infectious.
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I think I told you earlier,before we recorded, your smile is
infectious and inspiring and, um.
And this is something I think thatfor me was divinely planned because I
need help getting more organized so Ican streamline my business practices
and really, um, be more available to.
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Share more and to help more and to workwith more clients because as it is,
the overwhelm can get the best of me.
And so I have my planner andI'm so excited to finally be
utilizing it to my benefit.
So yes.
Um.
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I'm just so thrilled to have youhere to share your story and your
journey and what you're doing.
Is there any last thoughts that you wannaleave with our listeners on, you know,
chronic illness, on planning, on visions?
Anything that we haven't touched on yet?
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That it gets better.
It gets better and it's notas bad as you actually think.
Baby.
When I was in the thick ofit, I thought I was there.
Whoa.
Like really?
It's really not that bad.
Like there's so many, you know, silverlining and great moments that you really
not paying attention to that's there.
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Like number one, like yousaid, I got my diagnosis pretty
quick, you know what I'm saying?
And from there on out I hadoccupational therapy, physical
therapy, like a lot of people don'thave access to that with no insurance.
You know, like, so it was ways that Iwas being used to, to, to, to get, well,
to get to this point, and this is just abeginning, I haven't even done yet, y'all.
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I'm just, you know, I'm happy to be here.
I'm happy to share my story.
Um, I'm, I'm, I'm open to greatthings, and so it's just like the
mindset of receiving that openness,like life is coming at me, but I'm
still like, okay, but I'm this close.
That's why.
So, you know, just keeping thatmomentum going even when you tired,
you know, because we do get exhaustedfrom trying to keep that up.
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I know, I do.
And I rest without feeling guilty, so.
That's it.
And we can plan rest into our schedule.
We can.
We can plan rest into our planner.
We can.
We can, yep.
Yeah.
I love that.
Shedrica, thank you somuch for joining us.
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Thanks for being here.
Thank you.
So as we close, are you someone thatidentifies as chronically planned?
I would love to know if you arethat person like Ika, or if you
are coming more from my background,which is chronically overwhelmed and
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striving to be chronically planned.
Like I said in the episode, there'sbeen, there've been so many layers that
I've needed to shed and shift in orderto get to the space where I show up on
this podcast every week where I show upin my coaching program and show up on
my Instagram feed to try to pour intoother women that need this information.
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And, um, it's been quite an interestingjourney, so I'd love to know how,
and if you relate to that, uh, letus know in the comments on whichever
platform you're listening in on.
And, um, you know, I just want to touchback on a couple things that we're
talking about in the episode, whichis, you know, there there are things
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that we need to let go of when weare in this process of becoming and.
We spoke to letting go of relationshipsand, patterns and things like that.
what we didn't fully speak to wasletting go of really internalized.
Rooted belief systems that we may noteven realize we're operating under.
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Things like shame, things likeguilt, things like being inflexible
or, a need for perfectionismor a need for people pleasing.
Those type of emotional patternscan really keep us stuck and be the
underlying things that end up triggeringautoimmune type symptoms or, or just
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lead to holding us back from fullyimmersing ourselves into fulfilling
our visions that we want to create.
And I just want to let you know thatif you are stuck in some of those
patterns, you don't have to stay stuck.
But it does take some attention.
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It does take building awareness torecognizing those patterns in
yourself so that you can learn theshifts that it takes to create new.
Neuro pathways in the brain andlet go of those old ones that are
really just, it's, it's just a loopin the system that you're stuck in.
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That's all it is.
It's not truth, it's not fact.
It's just the story that you're stuck in.
So I just want to give you anotherreassurance there that, you.
You can shift, you can change, youcan grow through those patterns.
I've been in that growthcycle for a while now.
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Always.
There's always going to be morelayers to it, and the more you
work on it, the easier it getsto take those steps forward.
We do, begin on this pathin my coaching program.
Because doing those mindset shifts is whatmade the biggest change in my life, the
biggest change in my health experience,in my life experience, in my belief
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that I can actually help other women inthis process, in their health journeys.
so I want to invite youto just connect with me.
I'd love to hear more about your story.
I'd love to hear more about your healthjourney, your life journey, and just get
to know where you are at in, in your path.
(47:45):
In the show notes, there is a linkto connect with me on just a quick 10
minute call so that we can get to knoweach other just a little bit better.
Thank you so much for listening in.
If this podcast episode resonated withyou or made you think of somebody else
in your life that needs to hear this,I would love to ask you to just take
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a second and share this episode withsomebody that needs to hear this message.
Thank you so much for listening, andwe'll see you next week on the next
episode of the Health Bridge Podcast.
Hello and welcome to theHealth Bridge Podcast.
I'm your host, Holly b.Today I have a really great
conversation with Shedrica Holmes.
Shedrica is a mama, a lupuswarrior, and the voice behind lupus
speaks and chronically planned.
Shedrica, has been living with lupus since2008, and over the years she's learned how
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to stop just surviving and start creatinga life that actually works for her.
One that is rooted in faith,flexibility, and purpose.
Through her podcast, herworkshops and digital tools,
She helps other women, especiallychronic illness warriors, figure
out how to plan their lives aroundreal energy, not hustle, and still
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show up for what matters most.
Whether it's building a business,advocating for their health, or just
making it through a flare with grace,she's all about keeping it real and
making space for healing and impact.
Shedrica is someone who I've beengetting to know over the last few
months, and I just love her joyfulapproach to, living with lupus, to
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being a chronic entrepreneur as shecalls it, and to creating a life that.
Can flow with her chronic illness ratherthan, continually butt up against it.
And I love that she is helping otherwomen do the same thing through
her chronically planned platform.
Of which I am now a part of.
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I've been working with her, justover the last few weeks and I'm
really enjoying her community.
So in this conversation,we get to know Shedrica.
We hear about her lupus journeyand her experience, and.
How she has learned to really movethrough her lupus journey with faith,
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with planning, and with, just creatinga vision for her future and the things
that she wants to express into the world.
So in this conversation we talk abouthow to create more flow in business,
How to hold your vision for what youwant to express in the world, even when
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life feels really heavy, even when youare going through a flare and how we
may have to let go of certain thingsin our life in order to create that
vision and bring it into fruition.
We might have to shift our health habits.
We might have to shift our relationships.
We might have to learn how to thinkabout and approach things in a
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different way in order to become theperson that can create that vision.
So in this inspiring conversation,we start out by talking about
celebrating our life experiences.
And I know that you're going to beinspired by this conversation whether
you have a chronic illness or not,whether you are an entrepreneur or not.
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There are so many.
Just positive takeaways fromthis conversation that you can
apply to your life no matterwhat part of life you are in.
Before we start, I would love to ask youto just take a quick second to like and
subscribe to this podcast because that isagain, how we grow the podcast, how we get
in front of more eyes and ears and exposepeople to the possibilities that are
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really here when it comes to empowermentin your own health and life journey.
Thank you for doing that.
And now let's get into the episode.
Shedrica, welcome to the podcast.
We have gotten to know each other alittle bit over the last couple months
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and I am just thrilled to have you here.
So welcome.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me.
I'm excited to have this conversation.
So you are a fellow lupus sister and we'regonna definitely get into your story.
Um.
But I wanna start by asking you, whyis it that you celebrate having lupus?
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It's not necessarily mecelebrating having lupus.
It's me celebrating thelife that I have with Lupus.
So it's not like an, it'snot a overly hype situation.
It is just more, it issomething to celebrate.
It is, I get to share my story.
You know, I, it is, I, it is just.
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Something about having this, uh,experience is something to celebrate
because of what I can do with it.
So I feel like that'swhy, because why not?
We can celebrate anything we want to.
Well, I love that approach to life isthat it should be a celebration even
in the tough times because we canlearn things from those hard times.
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And the thing with lupus is.
Or any chronic illness or any majorlife altering change is that we
oftentimes start out by saying,I just wanna get back to normal.
I just wanna get back to how things were.
But when we look at it that way,we're, we're trying to get back
to the things that led up to.
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This illness occurring,so we don't mind that.
Yeah.
You living on the past,
that past experience, and it's likeyou have to have a new light or what
life is like with this condition andreflecting on the past just keeps
you sad.
It does.
It keeps you sad.
It keeps you stuck.
And so it's like, who were we before?
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But now who can we becomethrough this illness?
Right.
You were speaking recently,um, at our last meeting about
who you're becoming mm-hmm.
Chronically becoming.
Yes.
That's my book title by theway, so don't nobody take it.
I love it.
Expand on that more.
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What does chronicallybecoming mean to you?
Chronically becoming is basically what Istarted with, you know, celebrating life.
With the condition.
And it's not saying that it is this, uh,mindset of where people can remove, you
know, or heal or, it's, it's everything.
It's, it's just that I'm becoming,but I am, when I say chronically, it's
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the definition of the word of likeobsessively doing something, you know?
And it's like I'm excessively gonna livemy life regardless of this condition,
illness, whatever you wanna call it.
Is what I call it.
You know, it's a journey.
You never.
Gonna always, like, for me,becoming is never really an end.
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It's always evolving,it's always changing.
It's always, you know, I don'twanna be my 25-year-old self.
I don't wanna be my 30 5-year-old self,you know, I'm in this pushing this 40
page, you know, and I'm like, okay.
So I'm always becoming something differentand I don't wanna be what I used to be.
You know?
I wanna learn, I wanna have, use mywisdom from these experiences and, and
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become better so chronically becoming,because it never ends, it's always going.
I love that we're, yeah, we'reconstantly evolving and growing.
Should we choose?
Right?
We can choose stuck orwe can choose growth.
So I love that.
Yeah.
I love that approach.
Um, tell us more about your lupus journey.
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When did it start and howhave you moved through it?
Sure.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I don't know what kind of podcast thisis, but I'm gonna just be so real.
Please do it.
It started from men, man,
I, I, I, I take that back 'causethat's me, you know, putting blame
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on a person or a situation, butI'll say this, from what I know now,
it is neglecting my own wellbeing.
Caring and giving more than what I should.
Loving harder and inexperienced inlove in a way that wasn't healthy.
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You know, not setting boundaries,not respecting myself, not having
the, the work that I needed to havein order to sustain myself, um,
emotionally, spiritually, and physically.
So that lack caused me to, uh,my body to respond and alert
me that something was going on.
So I feel like that's where it started.
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Um, it definitely trickleddown in some experiences that
I did not think would happen.
Um, I never heard of Lupus before, soit was definitely not even a shocker
because even when I was gettingthis diagnosis, um, I went with the
boyfriend that I had at the time.
I went with his mother.
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She took off of her job to take me becauseshe could realize that something was
wrong, like something was making me sick,but she just didn't know what it was.
So she took me and I got adiagnosis that day, and this
was just a regular urgent care.
Um, and they said it was lupus,and she just said, oh no.
And I was like.
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I got the cooties.
What going on?
Like I didn't know what it was.
And even just at that time, this was 2008.
Um, even back then, the libraryreally didn't have books with a lot
of information about lupus, so it wasvery hard for me to like understand and
even knowing what I know now, readingabout it doesn't give you a glimpse of
what it actually is to live through it.
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But, uh, long storyshort, I got my diagnosis.
I did not take it seriously because Ididn't understand what I was about to get.
You know, I didn't take my medicine,you know, I didn't, you know,
really pay attention to the signs ofwhat my body was telling me to do.
So I suffered a lot.
Um, I got to the point whereI couldn't speak, you know,
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I wasn't able to talk at all.
I wasn't able to walk.
Um, I had to go through.
Uh, different types of therapies, physicaltherapy, occupational therapy, speech
therapy, just to obtain everything back.
Um, I was pretty much inhospice care because I was
just so sick and malnutrition.
I got down to like 80 pounds.
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Um, but that was like theexperience of the worst of it.
And still to this day, I don'tthink it's the worst of it because
I also experience chronic highs.
And to me that's worse because.
That internal it that you cannot scratch.
I wish that on no one, the skinburning and being on fire, I wish
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that on no one because anythingthat touches you, it just.
Like unbearable.
But I mean, I've experienced thejoint pain, the hair loss, the weight
loss, the weight gain from prednisone,the deterioration of your bones.
So it's just been a journey.
You know, I done been 180 pounds to110, like, you know, it just fluctuates.
But I still five beauty in it.
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That is, that's a long journey.
And you've been experiencing,when did you get your diagnosis?
October, 2008.
October the 15th.
2008.
Oh eight.
Yeah.
So that's all we're you'reclosing in on 20 years now?
Mm-hmm.
And what's different about your storyis you got a diagnosis really quick.
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Mm-hmm.
Which is something I don't hear often.
Usually people take.
5, 6, 7 years to get that diagnosis.
I find it very profound as wellbecause I feel like, how did
he even know to test for that?
You know, like how did he know that thesymptoms that I was giving, so to that,
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you know, urgent care doctor who justknew what I was sharing and was able to
like, hmm, let me get her an a NA, I mean,because that's the only way I have the a
NA test, you know, results from that day.
So.
That was, it didn't take long at all.
At all, but I did suffer, you know,maybe like a year before that with
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just signs of just the, like I wassaying, the highs and the skin itching,
the hair loss, the weight loss.
So I was like already going through it.
But I, when I did go to doctors,they would just be like, oh, she
just has eczema, or she has, youknow, something like this and that.
So they were just treating my symptoms.
They weren't really, uh,helping me get through.
What was actually it likemaking me itch, so, yeah.
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Right.
They weren't trying toget to the root cause.
They just treated it asa surface level symptom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very common, unfortunately.
But I think that's a blessing that youwere able to get a diagnosis so quick when
you finally went to seek out that help.
Yeah.
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Have you always been a passionate.
Creative, entrepreneurial minded woman?
Yes and no.
Um, I say yes because I've always,the way God made me, I'm very,
uh, passionate about giving.
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And so I, I, I always been theperson that shared information,
or, or girl, lemme tell you whereI, I never like gatekeep anything.
I always was a shared, like a,even in school, they would be
like, I know Sharif got the notes.
You know, I was alwayslike the paper pen girl.
Like, I always just like to writestuff down and be super organized
with my pens and colors like.
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Like I, I saw this um, thing back,uh, this will been long ago, but
it used to say, if you have time tofold your panties, then you, then
you got too much time in your hands.
But I'll literally fold my panties.
I'll put them in color quarter.
I will organize my closet like that,like my clothes is by the color,
because in my mind, that's how it works.
I love that.
I've always been like passionateabout what I, it's like if
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you gonna do something, giveyour best every single time.
So yes, I've always been likethat, but then I've had my moments
where I'm like, man, this sucks.
I don't wanna do that.
Whatever.
But I feel like it's not even that.
I feel, I know that being a motherchanged that and made it more, uh,
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driven to, to be more intentional.
About the things that I, thatI do, how I think, how I plan,
how I visualize what I speak.
It's, it's different.
And you feel that Lupus has broughtmore of that out in you as well?
Or how has Lupus, I guess, affectedthe way you go about life and
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the way you do the things thatyou're passionate about doing?
Really quick, Holly B here.
I just wanted to interrupt thepodcast to ask you for a quick favor.
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I really appreciate it.
And now back to the episode.
I think that Lupus definitely,it, it gave me some.
Because I never, okay, so you know howpeople grow up and they're like, oh, I
wanna be a doctor, I wanna be a nurse.
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I wanna be a school too.
My answer was always, I wanna be a mom.
Um, but my father, he used to tell methat I, you know, when I was younger, that
you're gonna be a speaker or that you'regonna be a news anchor, you're gonna be
on tv, you're gonna be all these things.
And I never saw that for myself.
I don't know.
I really, oh, I do rememberwhat I wanted to be.
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I wanted to be interior decorator.
But I never thought that it wouldtake me like what Lupus has given me.
I don't, I didn't never seelike what it was gonna do.
Like I just knew that Iwanted to do something.
'cause I like to give, I like to share.
So that's kind of like where mypodcast came from because I was
like, I'm just gonna tell peoplewhat it is really like, you know?
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And it just kind of went from there.
And so now you are essentially ontv, so to speak with this podcast.
Mm-hmm.
I love that.
So your, your father saw that visionand saw that it would come out.
Love it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So your mother, that's, I don't havekids, so to me that is like mindbogglingly
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challenging to plan anything around.
Having kids and all the daily activities.
I have a chihuahua and that takesenough of my energy, like I can't
even imagine adding onto that.
Right.
And I, I'm laughing at myself as I saythat, but it's kind of true, you know,
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just keeping up with daily life as it is.
Cooking, cleaning, going to the grocerystore, walking the dog, you know, add
kids on top of that, you've got two otherlives or however many kids you have.
You've got multiple other livesthat you have to manage, and
if you're passionate, you have.
You know, whatever entrepreneurialjourney you're on, or whatever creative
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journey you're on in life, whateveryour passions are, they can fall to
the wayside so easily, and that'swithout even having a chronic illness.
I'd love for you to kindof talk about how you use.
Being chronically planned
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to create more flow and successand ease in your life and, um,
you know, what a difference it'smade for you in your journey.
Well, being chronicallyplanned is essential.
I. Because as you cansay, I got a lot going on.
So if I do not have my paper planned ormy phone, some type of digital something,
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some type of plan, it's gonna be chaos.
I'm not gonna be on time.
I'm not gonna know what we eating.
I'm not gonna know how Ifelt or thought yesterday.
I need to be chronicallyplanned, obsessively planned.
I need to budget, I need to content plan.
I need to like.
I'm able to produce, I'm able to executebecause I have these plans set up
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because my brain only works like that.
Like me being unplanned.
You know me, not apparently becauseI didn't plan my content for June,
'cause I'm distracted a little.
I haven't posted, you know, like,but if I have a plan, I execute.
So it's essential in my life to,to, to stay on top of my goals, my
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dreams, just even my chores, like,okay, today is laundry day today.
I need to get these dishes out thedishwasher and reload the dishwash.
You know, like I, it's very detailed.
But otherwise, I would lay around.
I would, I would lay aroundbecause I don't feel like there is
something that I need to really do.
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But if I have a plan, even if I really,you know, have a plan and it doesn't
go as planned, that's still okay.
But the intention is still there.
So I always ask myself,what can I do from here?
And then I would justtry to implement that.
But it's essential.
It's a tool, it's a, and thateven planning is a process.
It's a journey.
It's a journey of becoming,because you could start one way.
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With just a thought or concept.
And then it ends up, once you plan it,it ends up being a real tangible thing.
That idea is no longer idea.
It is a real asset to something thatyou created from your mind and you, and
took notes and and, and made it happen.
So that's chronically planned.
Like as a, as a mom, as a chronicentrepreneur, as a, as a giver, a lover
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of life, um, it has to happen that way.
I mean, I can personally test, andI know we've talked about this.
I am, I have big visions, I have bigideas, I have big goals, but getting it
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out of my head and creating something.
On paper, writing down actionablesteps is challenging for me and
I end up scrambling day to day.
Mm-hmm.
And so every day it's like,okay, what am I posting today?
Or what is my task today?
Like, shoot, what?
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What's coming up next week?
What do I have to plan for?
And it's keeps me in this constantstate and I'm getting better at it.
And you're helping me by the.
You know, it keeps me in this constantstate of underlying stress and overwhelm.
Mm-hmm.
You
can get it and yeah.
And as we know as women with lupus oranyone with a chronic illness, uh, stress
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is a huge trigger for flares and fatigue.
And so how do you help women?
Start to structure their days structure,their weeks structure, their month,
so that they can have that, thosebackup plans for if they wake up.
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And you know, they might've had,you know, three important tasks
on their schedule for that day.
But you know, they've had a flare.
I'm too tired, I'm too fatigued to get.
Everything done that Iwanted to do for that day.
So how do we create flow withinplanning out, you know, our,
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our days, our weeks, our months?
So it's several components to thisin, in my beliefs, and that is belief.
You know what I mean?
That is your foundation, which is faithand having vision, you know, having,
because for me it's clear that if youhave some type of vision, then that
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doesn't take away, you know, the, thepurpose, you know what I'm saying?
Like what you actually ultimately get to.
So yeah, I, I probably had a,a, a paid community as a vision
as a plan for like two years.
You know, so it doesn't just 'causeyou wrote it down that day or for
that week doesn't mean that it'sgonna happen right then and there.
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You also have pace thatyou have to go through.
Sometimes you have to becomea certain type of person.
Sometimes maybe you gotta give up somethings, you gotta let go Some things,
you gotta become things before you caneven have what you saying that you want.
So it's a, it is a process.
Um.
When it comes to me helping,I just help you get clear.
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I just help you understand andbreak down and brainstorm of what
those visions and goals look like.
So that way you are able to bevery, um, not disciplined, but very,
like, super focused on what thatis, like what that looks like.
Um, very detailed is the wordI was looking for, because the
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details do, they do matter.
Um, so it's like, okay, my vision,let's just give an example.
We use the Inner Circle.
I want a newsletter, you know,but I don't know where to start.
I don't know what to say, whoI'm writing to, blah, blah, blah.
But I do know I want a newsletter.
Okay.
Well, how much of your timedo you wanna commit to this?
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You know, do you wantto email once a month?
Do you want to email once a week?
Do you wanna do it twice a week?
Okay.
I wanna talk to women about this.
This is what we're gonna talk about.
Okay.
Then you break down like it's so,like, it's just so many layers
before you get to the, the end game.
And that's why I said it takes alot of peeling back and, and growing
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and becoming certain things beforeyou can even get to the end result.
Like my daddy told me that I wasgonna be a speaker years ago, but he
didn't say I was gonna have lupus.
I was gonna go through these breakupsthat I was gonna have all these.
Turn, like I don't have the two kids,but you know, he didn't say the stuff in
between before I got to where I am today.
So it's, it's always about thedetails, the in between before you
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get to where you're getting to.
Um, so when it comes to planning, itis really just knowing the detail,
clarity, um, being able to, uh,'cause I feel like I'm so passionate
about it is because I do know thedetails, so it's like, just do it.
Like, 'cause who else is, you know, like,it might not sound simple, but I feel like
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when you know where you going, you go,you know, when you know you need to get to
the mailbox and you know where the mailboxat, you just get up and go to the mailbox.
Like, it don't, it don't take that much.
It's very clear, you know, youknow that that's Stanley Cup gonna
keep your ice in your water cold.
So you go make sure you,it's like the details matter.
The detail is that this cupholds the ice for 24 hours.
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So, you know.
Like it's, it could be, I don't know.
I hope I'm explaining it right,but it is, it is all in the detail.
So getting clear about what youwanna do and how you do it, and
I just help you figure that out.
That's basically what it's becauseI can't write it down for you.
I can't make you do it.
I can only help you get clearand let's figure out the pace.
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Let's figure out your energy.
Let's figure out.
What you have the capacity todo right now in this season.
Maybe you gotta unlearn something.
Maybe you gotta take yourself,um, off of something.
Maybe you gotta be disciplined.
Maybe you gotta let go of person.
Maybe you gotta let go of things,bad habits, like I'll help you
get clear on the details so thatway you are able to execute and
we'll just create a plan together.
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Yeah.
Um, creating the plan is essential,but again, like you were saying, first
you have to have that vision, andI think part of having that vision
is also having a why behind it.
Absolutely.
Why is that vision important to you?
You know?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Like, I know for you and for me,part of our passion behind what we're
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doing with our coaching businesses is.
We felt the pain of being stuck.
We felt the pain of being sick.
We want to help other women, especiallyother passionate, creative individuals
who have these visions for whatthey wanna do, entrepreneurially.
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Um, we wanna help them shorten thatlearning gap, shorten the learning
curve so they can reach them sooner.
Right.
But you're so, you're so rightin saying that there are so
many layers of things that.
Have to take place inorder to reach that vision.
And that's, that's the growth process.
And sometimes we have to, likeyou said, let go of things like
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go of patterns, like of habits.
It's, it's that process of the becomingversus trying to stay who you are.
Yeah.
You can, can't stay
who you are.
You can't
wanna healthy body and then eat bad.
Right, like you, the want you do.
It is not, doesn't matter,but how bad do you want it?
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That's always my question to myself.
What's the other people's like, howbad you want it because you gonna have
to get that up, you know what I mean?
So, or you gonna haveto do this, you ready?
You know, are you ready to pay?
Are you ready?
You know, are you ready to invest?
Because at the end of the day, you'regonna have to invest something, put some
kind of discipline, some kind of sacrificein order to obtain what you want.
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You can't just write it on a paperand let it be some cliff notes.
Like you really gotta like look at it andbe like, do I really, how bad I want this?
And yo, why is very important.
And you're absolutely right.
So knowing your why, gettingclear is definitely a part of the,
becoming part of the process, apart of being chronically planned.
And being willing to beuncomfortable in the process.
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Oh, it's uncomfortable just notbeing in no process, like Right.
The, the way this world going.
Everything uncomfortable.
So, I mean, we already uncomfortable.
We need to get uncomfortablewith being too uncomfortable.
Right, right.
We so uncomfortable, comfortablewith being uncomfortable.
We just let it be like, no.
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So, yeah.
It's again layers.
Right, right.
Well it's interesting, isn't it?
Because we get, like you said, we'realready uncomfortable, but we're
comfortable with that discomfort 'causewe already know what that feels like.
Mm-hmm.
We have to get comfortablewith taking that next step into
that next level of discomfort.
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In order to grow, grow, and in order towork through things and in order to leave
those things behind so you can become thatnext version of you, that next upgrade.
Right?
Yeah.
And I can tell you from mypersonal experience, I mean,
I've been on this entrepreneurialjourney for quite some time.
And the layers, the layers, thelayers, the layers that have had to be.
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Acknowledged, worked on peeled through,just to get to the point where I am
comfortable using my voice where Iam comfortable starting this podcast
where I'm comfortable, you know, havinga sales conversation with somebody.
Yeah, I mean.
Ooh, it runs deep.
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Yes.
I'm, look, me just being comfortableto be on the live or do, like, I was
so, like, ooh, it made me cringe.
Hey, I just wanted to jumpin here and interrupt the
program for just a hot minute.
You know that I'm so passionateabout this podcast, but what I'm
also really passionate about ishelping women with lupus minimize
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their symptoms, boost their energy sothat they can indulge in life again.
So if you are a woman.
Who is struggling with lupus, whois sick and tired of being sick and
tired, who is struggling to manageyour flares if you're finding that
your lupus symptoms are just reallygetting in the way of you being able
to live your life the way you want to.
(30:22):
I feel you.
I've been there myself, andI've felt the same way, and what
I've found is that there are.
A certain set of health fundamentalsthat once applied will support
you in your foundational health.
They will support you in building andmaintaining that energy, minimizing
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flares, and allowing you to again,indulge in life and follow your passions.
So if that is something that you areinterested in creating for yourself,
let's jump on a call together.
I will walk you through the process that Iuse with my clients to get them from sick
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and tired to Strong Foundation of Healthby implementing my Health Bridge Protocol.
If this is something you're interestedin chatting more about, I would love
to talk to you, apply for a freeclarity call with me, and I look
forward to getting to know you soon.
And now back to the episode.
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So it's like I'm, and, and honestly itjust makes me more confident and it has,
because my belief is being built up.
So it's like I believe that this nextstage or season of my life is, is so
close that when start stuff startsto happen and I'm just like, oh.
I'm like, girl, you.
You real close because they tryingto like, keep you from doing it and
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stuff is trying to keep you from, keepyou down, but you, you this close.
So it's like that vision beingthere is like, okay, I'm close.
Don't give up right here.
This is what, you know.
'cause a lot of people give up rightin the moment when they right there
and it's like just keeping the visionclear, keeping the purpose, keeping
your why and, and, and being like just,just, just like, how bad do you want it?
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How bad do you want a healthier body?
How bad do you want?
A relationship with God.
How bad do you want to build community?
How bad do you want a successful podcast?
How, how bad those, it's not even awhy, it's just like how bad, like, you
know, real bad or bit bad, you know?
Take it from there because maybe youdon't know what you haven't discovered.
Why?
You know, sometimes we're in seasonswhere I don't know why I'm doing this.
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I don't really know why.
I feel like I wanna share,you know what I'm saying?
I don't know why I wanna help people.
Sometimes you don't know why,but just knowing how bad you want
or the desire, something desire,you know, will get you there.
So yeah, I said mouthful,
but you're right.
The, the desire And, um, what Iwas gonna add to that too, is.
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Uh, you're saying you're so close,you're so close, it's gonna ha you
know, always training your mind to lookfor the evidence that this is working,
to look for the evidence that you're,you're getting closer to that vision
is a huge mindset shift because it's soeasy, especially I think, with chronic
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illness, to find the evidence of.
Oh, I'm having another flare.
Oh, this is gonna trigger something.
Oh, you know, I'm fearful of that food.
Or Oh, you know, and we'realways looking for the, the
evidence on the negative side.
Well, if you can train yourself to lookfor and seek out the evidence on the other
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side of where things are going, right.
Even if it's just like,well, the sun came up today.
You know, even if that's all you canfind is that the sun came up today.
That's still evidence thatthings are progressing, right?
Mm-hmm.
So yeah, I think having those subtlemindset, mindset shifts are, are huge.
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And in both your health experience,your life experience, your
entrepreneurial experience, um,and I was, you've mentioned faith a
few times and I'd love to know likewhat role does faith play for you?
Journey.
This journey.
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I
mean, it's the only rolenot, I mean, because,
you know, I, I do believe inGod, um, and I do believe in
something bigger than me, you know?
And I just feel like sometimeswhen you are going through
things, it's not what you anyway.
You know, sometimes you argue as avessel or a testimony just because
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like what I might be saying to youtoday probably touched so many people.
Or it could touch one person and that oneperson go and get their life together.
Like, oh, let me get my planner.
You know what I'm saying?
Let me get chronically plan, becausewhat she's saying that her joy,
whatever she getting, I want that.
You know what I mean?
So that's all that matters.
So having that faith and believing thatI'm getting poured into in that way.
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Being able to pour it back out.
Um, I'm just a believer in, in goodthings and, and that good things.
You good, you do good.
You get good back.
You know, I mean, that'sa universal thing.
That's a, that's a, that's justa thing, you know, whatever.
You pour it out, you get back in and itmay not look like exactly how you put it
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out, but it could be that somebody else.
You didn't wake up, but you did.
Like it could be that simple.
It don't have to be like,oh, I gotta, you know.
'cause I like to say whenpeople see people have things.
You know, oh, she's smiling.
Oh, her skin is clear.
Oh, she ain't big.
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She's skinny.
She, you know, got kids.
She got, this is, do you knowwhat I had to go through?
Do you want my story?
Do you want my story to get what I have?
No.
So go your own way.
Go your own journey.
Have faith and belief inwhat you want, and that's it.
Like whatever you have faith in,whatever you believe in you are right.
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You know, if you believe in yours.
If you believe that it'swrong, you, you are right.
You know, like, so it's, it's, it's sucha big component in what you believe.
It's, it's, it's all in the mind.
You can make yourself believe the mosthorrific things about yourself, about what
you doing, about other people, about life.
And you are absolutely rightbecause you believe that.
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So faith is everything.
I hope that your question,
uh, it absolutely answers my.
That's something that I'velearned myself is yes, what
you believe in is true, period.
Period.
And that can mean like, I've had togo through my own journey with that.
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And that's why I always start withmindset with my coaching clients
because I used to think that I wasjust very realistic in what I believed.
Mm-hmm.
Things were more blackand white things were, um.
You know, in, in regards to my health,it's like, well, I have a chronic illness.
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That's forever.
Right?
Well, sure, that sounds, I thoughtthat was just super realistic or I
am not qualified to get a better job.
I've never learned what ittakes to get that better job.
I'm stuck in customer service.
Right.
I thought that was just very realistic.
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You know, I don't know enough to be abusiness owner realistic, but when it
comes down to it, those are just storiesthat I'm choosing to tell myself or that
I believe that other people have told me.
Absolutely.
It doesn't make them true.
Right?
It's not necessarily true that I'mgonna have this chronic illness forever.
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And like you said, where's the evidence?
Where's the evidence?
Yeah.
Look for the evidence, right?
Mm-hmm.
So, um, I think it's really importantto become aware of what words we're
saying to ourselves, how we're describingour own situation, and just shifting
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those things alone can make a huge.
Change and shift in our health, in our,in our life overall, in our success and
whatever we decide to put our feet into.
Shedrica how are you working with people?
Um, what resources are you sharingwith people to help them on
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their entrepreneurial journeys?
So right now I am offering,um, um, planning planner
audits and strategy sessions.
They are a hour and we just kind ofsit down and break down to get clear.
Even like whether you're using aplanner right now or not, I can help
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you strategize and come up with astrategy to be able to be consistent.
And then I also offer the inner circle.
Um, the doors are closed right now, butI'm reopening them up in the fall, so
I will be having a wait lists coming,but that's pretty much just whole
space for community for, um, thatone-on-one without, with me, with group.
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'cause you know, sometimes somebody mightask a question that you didn't think
about, but they be like, Ooh, that helped.
You know what I'm saying?
So just having that unit, you canattest to that of like, what it's
like because you're in a circle.
I'm, but those are, Imean, just, it's just.
A, a vibe, a playing a party,a a, a knowledge, awareness of
different ways you can use thingsto, to, to be more organized and
(39:45):
more connected with who you are.
And just, it's just all aboutawareness, you know, really.
Um, and holding yourself accountable.
So those are the ways that peoplecan, um, work with people right now.
But I do offer some digital products,um, as far as a faith-based journal.
And, um, there's some otherthings that I'm coming up with.
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Um, a chronic content plannerfor those who need to really just
get clear in what they do as faras content and stuff like that.
So I'm working on those projects,but right now I just have the
faith-based, uh, prayer journal andjust some free resources, please.
So plan with your body, start apack where you can kind of like
gauge where you are and sink acycle sinking and things like that.
(40:28):
So, yeah.
And you have a podcast.
Oh.
Yeah, thank you.
Because that's the, that's the all,be all, you know, it starts there.
Um, yes.
And I have the podcast formerly calledLupus Speak, but it is now chronically
planned podcast, and you can find allthese juicy stories of all these people
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who have life experiences and how theyare able to change their lives and, and,
and do something and, and, and be ready.
So.
I love it.
I love it.
Well, I'm enjoying, I knowyour inner circle just started.
We just started and I'm really enjoyingbeing in it and being in that community
and, um, and your joy is infectious.
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I think I told you earlier,before we recorded, your smile is
infectious and inspiring and, um.
And this is something I think thatfor me was divinely planned because I
need help getting more organized so Ican streamline my business practices
and really, um, be more available to.
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Share more and to help more and to workwith more clients because as it is,
the overwhelm can get the best of me.
And so I have my planner andI'm so excited to finally be
utilizing it to my benefit.
So yes.
Um.
(41:59):
I'm just so thrilled to have youhere to share your story and your
journey and what you're doing.
Is there any last thoughts that you wannaleave with our listeners on, you know,
chronic illness, on planning, on visions?
Anything that we haven't touched on yet?
(42:20):
That it gets better.
It gets better and it's notas bad as you actually think.
Baby.
When I was in the thick ofit, I thought I was there.
Whoa.
Like really?
It's really not that bad.
Like there's so many, you know, silverlining and great moments that you really
not paying attention to that's there.
(42:42):
Like number one, like yousaid, I got my diagnosis pretty
quick, you know what I'm saying?
And from there on out I hadoccupational therapy, physical
therapy, like a lot of people don'thave access to that with no insurance.
You know, like, so it was ways that Iwas being used to, to, to, to get, well,
to get to this point, and this is just abeginning, I haven't even done yet, y'all.
(43:09):
I'm just, you know, I'm happy to be here.
I'm happy to share my story.
Um, I'm, I'm, I'm open to greatthings, and so it's just like the
mindset of receiving that openness,like life is coming at me, but I'm
still like, okay, but I'm this close.
That's why.
So, you know, just keeping thatmomentum going even when you tired,
you know, because we do get exhaustedfrom trying to keep that up.
(43:30):
I know, I do.
And I rest without feeling guilty, so.
That's it.
And we can plan rest into our schedule.
We can.
We can plan rest into our planner.
We can.
We can, yep.
Yeah.
I love that.
Shedrica, thank you somuch for joining us.
(43:51):
Thanks for being here.
Thank you.
So as we close, are you someone thatidentifies as chronically planned?
I would love to know if you arethat person like Ika, or if you
are coming more from my background,which is chronically overwhelmed and
(44:14):
striving to be chronically planned.
Like I said in the episode, there'sbeen, there've been so many layers that
I've needed to shed and shift in orderto get to the space where I show up on
this podcast every week where I show upin my coaching program and show up on
my Instagram feed to try to pour intoother women that need this information.
(44:42):
And, um, it's been quite an interestingjourney, so I'd love to know how,
and if you relate to that, uh, letus know in the comments on whichever
platform you're listening in on.
And, um, you know, I just want to touchback on a couple things that we're
talking about in the episode, whichis, you know, there there are things
(45:06):
that we need to let go of when weare in this process of becoming and.
We spoke to letting go of relationshipsand, patterns and things like that.
what we didn't fully speak to wasletting go of really internalized.
Rooted belief systems that we may noteven realize we're operating under.
(45:30):
Things like shame, things likeguilt, things like being inflexible
or, a need for perfectionismor a need for people pleasing.
Those type of emotional patternscan really keep us stuck and be the
underlying things that end up triggeringautoimmune type symptoms or, or just
(45:53):
lead to holding us back from fullyimmersing ourselves into fulfilling
our visions that we want to create.
And I just want to let you know thatif you are stuck in some of those
patterns, you don't have to stay stuck.
But it does take some attention.
(46:14):
It does take building awareness torecognizing those patterns in
yourself so that you can learn theshifts that it takes to create new.
Neuro pathways in the brain andlet go of those old ones that are
really just, it's, it's just a loopin the system that you're stuck in.
(46:36):
That's all it is.
It's not truth, it's not fact.
It's just the story that you're stuck in.
So I just want to give you anotherreassurance there that, you.
You can shift, you can change, youcan grow through those patterns.
I've been in that growthcycle for a while now.
(46:58):
Always.
There's always going to be morelayers to it, and the more you
work on it, the easier it getsto take those steps forward.
We do, begin on this pathin my coaching program.
Because doing those mindset shifts is whatmade the biggest change in my life, the
biggest change in my health experience,in my life experience, in my belief
(47:22):
that I can actually help other women inthis process, in their health journeys.
so I want to invite youto just connect with me.
I'd love to hear more about your story.
I'd love to hear more about your healthjourney, your life journey, and just get
to know where you are at in, in your path.
(47:45):
In the show notes, there is a linkto connect with me on just a quick 10
minute call so that we can get to knoweach other just a little bit better.
Thank you so much for listening in.
If this podcast episode resonated withyou or made you think of somebody else
in your life that needs to hear this,I would love to ask you to just take
(48:07):
a second and share this episode withsomebody that needs to hear this message.
Thank you so much for listening, andwe'll see you next week on the next
episode of the Health Bridge Podcast.
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