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Two entrepreneurs named Megan found each other through a charity collaboration during COVID, sparking a business partnership that would redefine women's community events across North America. The Modern Day Wife co-founders Meagan Ayers and Meghan Fialkoff reveal how their instant connection transformed into a thriving brand known for "upscale events with substance."

Despite what the name might suggest, their community welcomes women from all walks of life – married, single, divorced, entrepreneurs, stay-at-home moms, and everyone in between. "There has to be something said about understanding the husband and wife title that creates something that helps society," explains Megan Ayers, who created the name as an aspiration before becoming a wife herself.

Their flagship event, Soirée en Blanc, transforms the Sofitel Hotel in Los Angeles into a French-themed celebration where a thousand attendees dressed in white experience everything from intimate rooftop lunches to celebrity panels and fashion shows. The co-founders have mastered the art of creating immersive experiences that feel like "a cruise boat" with multiple levels of engagement.

Beyond events spanning from California to Canada, The Modern Day Wife has expanded into digital content with a magazine (soon launching a "40 under 40" edition), podcast, and membership site offering on-demand courses. What distinguishes them from other women's communities is their holistic approach – they celebrate all the "hats" women wear rather than focusing exclusively on business or motherhood.

The podcast reveals the founders' complementary personalities and shared values, particularly their commitment to humanitarian work. "My biggest upset with the world right now is celebrities not investing in humanitarian work," shares Megan Fialkov, challenging the "me, me, me" focus of social media culture.

Experience The Modern Day Wife community at their upcoming events in Los Angeles, Toronto, and Scottsdale – or connect through their newly redesigned website launching this summer. Join these passionate entrepreneurs who have mastered the art of "pivoting while staying on brand" in their mission to create meaningful connections among women.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the heart of show business.
I am your host, alexia Melocchi.
I believe in great storytellingand that every successful
artist has a deep desire toexpress something from the heart
to create a ripple effect inour society.
Emotion and entertainment areclosely tied together.
Emotion and entertainment areclosely tied together.
My guests and I want to giveyou insider access to how the

(00:28):
film, television and musicindustry works.
We will cover dreams come true,the road less traveled journey
beginnings and a lot of insightand inspiration in between.
I am a successful film andtelevision entrepreneur who came
to America as a teenager topursue my show business dreams.

(00:49):
Are you ready for someunfiltered real talk with
entertainment visionaries fromall over the world?
Then let's roll sound andaction.
Hello to all my beautifulaudience of the Heart of Show
Business.
As you know, my podcast is notjust about show business, it's
also about heart, and these twoladies that are my special

(01:11):
guests today actually embodythat.
Everything that they do intheir business model which is
fabulous and I'm proud to be apodcast sponsor for them is done
with heart.
With me I have the CEOs andco-founders of the Modern Day
Wife, megan Ayers and MeganFlykoff.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I always spell it wrong, don't worry, I explained
my last name to someone recently.
It's a violet in Russian, soit's Fyalkov.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
I love that and you know people love them because
they're so in sync.
I mean, look at them.
They got even matching jacketsand they didn't even plan it.
And they're called Megan andMegan for a reason.
Like, everybody knows them asMegan and Megan and they're so
fantastic when they're puttingup their event.
It's like they're reading eachother's mind.
They even dance to the samesongs.

(02:02):
They're like, they're just liketoo adorable.
But they're also super smartbusiness women.
I mean, you know their, theirevent and you know we'll ask
them about it.
But I think, first of all, Ilove that they constantly pivot
and and the but yeah, theymanaged to always stay on brand
because you know what they do isthey?
They know how to put togetherlifestyle, brand, community,

(02:26):
kind of like all packaged intoone, which is why they were
featured as some of LA's mostinfluential women on LA Style
Magazine and they've beenfeatured and one of them is now
doing beauty pageants.
I mean, they got it going on.
So welcome to my show, ladies.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Thank you, thanks for having us.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's so great to have you.
So I mean, obviously, you know,I want to know how the two of
you came together, because youknow you're in Canada, you're in
LA, like how did this happen?
Or you, at least, you're fromCanada, I think.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
You're right, I am.
I was like I wanted to.
I wanted to be America, butunfortunately no.
I was born in Canada.
But I tell Megan I'm like I'mgetting that green card, I'm
gonna figure it out.
So yeah, but nope, canadian andyou both come from.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
You know branding and consulting, and and and
obviously high level management.
Um, how did you find oneanother?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, well, it's actually an interesting story
that we've had the chance totalk about quite a bit lately,
but it was during COVID soModern Day Wife originated.
I started it in Vancouver,canada.
The first event was in Decemberof 2019.

(03:48):
It was a soft launch influencerparty.
So it was a brunch for 25different influencers to get
some hype going about what isthe modern day wife?
Because it was brand new at thetime.
But it was really quiteinteresting and fascinating to
look back on that moment,because a lot of the things that
we do today were happening atthat event in 2019.

(04:10):
So there were influencers,there was a brunch, there were
panels, there was a mini fashionshow.
So it was basically modern daywife, but just not as expansive,
because obviously, when Meganand I got together, we were able
to really blow it up, which isfascinating.
So then COVID hit in 2020.
There was another launch partyin Vancouver in February of 2020

(04:31):
.
And then, obviously, it wasCOVID.
So I ended up doing somedigital events with Chelsea
Burwash, who is actually now ourdirector of sponsors.
So it's kind of fun how she'sstill remained in the community.
Her and I were doing somedigital events together, and
then one of them was for?
I don't know if you know ElenaCardone, of course.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Of course, of course we come from the same world.
But yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Got what you're putting down, totally Love her.
So at the time she had justlaunched her book, if you
remember, how to build an empire, and it was actually quite
focused on family andrelationships.
And I was doing this funprogram at my church and I
wanted to promote more of thattype of viewpoint and so I said

(05:21):
to her I was like hey, can we doa mini virtual event?
All the money can go to charity.
I don't want to make anything.
Um, you know, what charity doyou want to do?
And I listed a few.
And then she said drug freeworld.
And I was like, okay, great, Ilove, I love that.
That.
Um, let's, let's do it.
And so then I went on Instagramand I'm like all right, who's
running the America's chapter?

(05:43):
And I sent a DM me kind ofnaively like hey, can I give you
money.
But I didn't know, like maybethis person doesn't want to work
with me, like maybe they thinkmodern day life is silly and
they don't want that as aconnection.
I don't know right, theconsiderations that we have are
funny.
But I sent a message out overInstagram and it was Megan who

(06:03):
answered.
Answered and she said, ofcourse, like let's partner.
So we had drug food world logoon all the graphics.
It was really fun.
There were affiliates promotingthat event.
I think there was about 60 orso people who came to this
amusing online webinar Likeactually, when I think about who
paid to have tickets to watchElena Cardone and I interviewed

(06:27):
her with another girlfriend atthe time named Elena Hegard and
it was amazing.
And then Megan and I did anInstagram live and she can pick
up on the rest of the story here, but that's kind of how that
part went for us meeting andthen she can share what happened
next.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Love that.
See, they stand for somethingalready.
I love it.
Yeah, yeah, we both actually.
It's funny you say that, megan,because it is true we have had
some nonprofits that we'veworked with who they have like
minimum donations, which is alittle odd, minimum donations,
which is a little odd.
So that's a weird feeling.
So, yeah, we didn't.
This is weird.

(07:13):
I think what it really comesdown to is we're both pretty go
flow, meaning you talk to somepeople and it's so sticky and
they have to make decide allthese things, and it's like I
don't have time to work withpeople.
I really can't work with peoplelike that.
We're both very like okay,we're going to do this and then
we do it.
Right, it's very fast.
But essentially I'm from NewYork and I ran that nonprofit

(07:37):
the New York chapter with my dadfrom 2006 to 2015 full time.
But then when I moved to LAbecause I had gotten engaged, I
had to take a bit of a differentrole.
So I was fundraising for awhile from 2015 to 2020.
But in 2019, I got pregnant andthen it was COVID, so I didn't

(07:59):
want to travel when I waspregnant.
Number one and number two was Ididn't know realistically how
was I going to be a mom if I wastraveling nights and weekends?
So I was really concerned aboutwhat the plan was.
I didn't really feel the plan Ihad in place was workable and

(08:21):
so, thank god, megan and I bothpulled in each other.
Obviously, obviously, we musthave both had an idea at some
point earlier.
I mean, I know I did.
I was looking for a businesspartner, and I think Megan more
or less has expressed that shewould have a partner if it was
the right fit.
So, um, I just knew I had somesort of knowingness when I did

(08:42):
the live with her that this wasthe person I was looking for and
I decided not to hold back andhave considerations about I was
seven months pregnant and wouldshe like me?
And do I know what I'm doingand all the things?
I put it aside, and we had aphone call and we partnered and

(09:02):
we launched it in the US, and sothat's how we met.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
When people say well, you know, I'm going to go on a
date and I got to go on like 20dates to make sure that these
people are right.
And then they do that and thenthey get married and it's a
disaster.
And then there's people whojust go on one date and just go
F it.
We're just going to get engagedand get married and just go for
it and just go.
We're just going to get engagedand get married and just go for
it, and then they end up beingmarried for the longest time
because it's just, it's justspontaneous, like I said, it's

(09:30):
just like a knowingness andyou're just like whatever, we'll
just jump in and and see whathappens.
And you know, I love becausewhat you girls do is like you
put up like a defined upscaleevents with substance and and
you know you'll bring it downUpscale events with substance
and and you know you're rightwriting that down upscale events
with substance.
I was like damn, that soundsgood it's me downloading, yes,

(09:55):
and and and it's just.
I love it because you literallyput together.
I mean you have a magazine, you, you have now a podcast like me
we are bringing in together.
You have celebrities coming toyour events, you know, so people
can learn from you know,obviously, like the best on, you
know tips for success andeverything.
I mean you do it all.

(10:15):
You have a vault where peoplecan access the product.
And, by the way, you know, Ihave to say, because and this
goes to the testimony ofsponsorships that do work I love
your gift bags when I come, andyou didn't pay me to say that,
but there's a lot of productsthat are in those gift bags that
I actually try and then I endedup buying them by myself.

(10:39):
Like there was this mascara, ohmy God, I don't even remember
the thing, but I just love it.
It makes my lashes beautifuland like I still buy it, I still
go on Amazon and look for it.
So there is, wow, it does work.
You know, like it does work.
There is about like some soaps,about things that I've continued
to take on and do.
So I always say to people likepeople who are wanting to

(11:01):
sponsor, you know it.
Obviously it takes a long timeto to build a relationship with
your client base, but you know,you don't know who's going to
come into those things and trysomething and become like a
loyal customers, and your girlsare the conduit to that.
So I'm all for that.
Like, honestly, you bring greatpeople and again they didn't

(11:21):
pay me to say that it's justlike I can have to, to say that
it was just like I didn't haveto say testimonial, it's true,
it does work, you know.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
So yeah, yeah, I appreciate that.
It is true, you know.
The thing is is that we don'tknow who we're going to meet at
our own events.
I'll tell you an example Lastfew weeks ago, in our event in
Miami, we had already known,because Miami was not our
territory.
We knew who the big shot wasdown there putting on events and

(11:50):
we knew about this for a whilenow because we research areas
and we found out after the factthat they attended our event
their president and their eventscoordinator and they emailed us
after the event wanting to workwith us.
So same thing, like we didn'tknow that, and that's a huge

(12:11):
opportunity for us.
So it is true, like you don't.
There's also another componentof this and just you know, to
give takeaways to the readers.
But it's like you know, meganand I decided to do podcasts
this week and even though on thepodcast we're not talking to a
potential partner or potentialsponsor, but we're having live
communication and sometimes justgetting out there and having

(12:34):
live communication with otherpeople, you pull in the thing
you want.
So we've been doing all thesepodcasts and this wasn't even
the reason we're doing it.
But every single podcast, afterthe podcast, one of our sales
people has some huge win andit's.
It almost doesn't make sense,it's not logical, but it's like
when you're out there at anevent and you're having live

(12:55):
communication or you're callingpeople and you're not just using
the phone or the email, thingshappen.
So you do need to have presence.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, no, I love that .
No, I love that you created thepodcast and it feels like such
a natural thing and you know,and your magazine looks fabulous
as well.
It's very slick, it's verystylish.
I love that you're doing.
You're featuring products everymonth where people can just
sort of like get them andeverything you know.
And, honestly, we live in sucha world of such oversaturation

(13:29):
like nobody knows where to lookanymore.
I mean, we're all guilty of ourlike endless Instagram
scrolling and all of thosethings, which is always very
helpful.
I tend to go to niche places, soif I want to discover something
new or whatever, I will listen,not to the podcast that
everybody listens.

(13:49):
I will go into something thatI'm going to discover.
I'm like, oh, I just discovereda little gem, you know.
And the same thing with yourevents.
I mean, you know there's somany events that I could put out
there, but you know, you'realways great at organizing them.
You have always a great mix ofpeople, you know.
And actually I want to know themodern day wife title, because
at the beginning I was like, oh,it's not for me.

(14:11):
I'm not married, or I used tobe, but I'm not anymore, so why
modern day wives.
So tell me a little bit likewhat this modern day wife name
means, truly um.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Nice, it's so funny that you said that, because I
remember Megan and I we wrote asection I think we still have it
, maybe on the ticket page whereit says like questions or
comments.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, it is there.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
And it's like you don't have to be a wife.
But originally, when I came upwith the concept of the name, I
wasn't a wife either, which isfunny, right, funny right.
I just was at this time in mylife where I was in a serious
relationship.
I'm now married to that person,but I was transitioning out of
working corporate and workingfor myself and I was trying to

(14:58):
figure out okay, how do youbalance dating or being with
someone, making money, cleaningthe house, having a social
network, paying the bills, like,as we get older, there's so
many more responsibilities,right?
Our parents stopped taking careof us.
They know, they're kind ofyou're on your own, and I was, I

(15:19):
guess, in my mid to latetwenties at that point.
Probably, I think it was,must've been, I don't know.
Anyway, somewhere around therelate, late twenties.
So it was just this interestingdiscovery for myself and I I
thought, okay, well, what aboutthe modern day wife?
Right?
This woman who is aspirationaland she wants to have?

(15:39):
Check, all these different hats?
Right?
Mom, wife, you know, go get herbusiness fit, whatever, every,
everything you can think of thata woman does.
And I thought the name was justsuper bold.
So I'm like people are going tolove it or they're not going to
like it.
And I wanted to be a wife.
That was a goal of mine andthat's why I named the business,
that.
It was an aspiration.

(16:00):
So I think, when it comes to thecommunity, you can be married,
you can be dating, you can bedivorced, it doesn't matter,
right.
You can be dating, you can bedivorced, it doesn't matter,
right.
But obviously there is thatunderlying foundation of well,
you do obviously support theidea of being a wife, or else
you know it's hard to connect,but it doesn't mean you have to

(16:21):
be one.
Maybe you have been one, maybeyou want to be one, maybe you
don't want to be one, but you'reokay with the fact that you
understand that there is ahusband and a wife title.
That creates something, at theend of the day, that does help
society.
I mean, the reality is is theonly reason why we all exist are
because two people decided toget together and make a child,
married or not, right?

(16:41):
So there has to be something tobe said about that, with labels
or without.
So, um, that's kind of where itcame from.
But that's funny that youthought that, because we get it
a lot, but people like it.
It's kind of like the MarthaStewart.
This is where the new MarthaStewart I love it.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
It's catchy for sure, and I love that.
Then you get surprised thatit's not what you think it is
right, because you're like, wow,there's some powerhouse ladies
here, there's CEOs, there ismoms, there is authors, there's
celebrities, there is, you know,solopreneur, and you know what
I always say.
There's a friend of mine who'sa life coach and everything, and

(17:18):
she ended up.
She went into this wholemovement of women marrying
themselves.
You could be your own wife, youknow of yourself and marrying
yourself, but of course thatdoesn't work too well for a long
time.
You do want to have a lifepartner.
I'm all for that.
And you know again, you canfind all kinds of partners.
You can find your best friend,you can find, you know, a

(17:39):
business partner there.
You can be the best version ofyourself so that you can
manifest and attract the partner.
And you know this MD I mean youknow MDW actually is great,
like in your little sparklythings and the theme.
So what's coming up?
I know we have a big eventcoming up in LA which I just

(17:59):
found out.
You're doing only one of themthis year.
So everybody better check out,get your tickets and come and
attend.
But you have this event, whatis Soirée en Blanc and what else
is coming up for you, ladies,this year?

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Well, it's exciting, this one, because this is like a
legacy event.
It means like we do it everyyear and it becomes iconic in
that city.
So Soirée en Blanc is a Frenchthemed event.
I am so not saying it in a chicFrench way, I know it's in
French, it's a soirée en blanc,so it means party in white.

(18:38):
So what that means is everyonedresses in white for this event
and it marks the beginning ofsummer.
And our partner is the Sofitel,and the Sofitel is a French
hotel.
So, and excitingly for thisevent, they will just have
finished a renovation and thecolors of the event, the hotel
is totally transforming fromwalking in and it was dark,

(18:59):
black marble to much more openand light colors.
So we'll be one of the firstevents there and it is a French
themed event, and so there aresome really exciting experiences
and photo ops along the linesof this French theme.
We're going a little, we'regoing much more all out this

(19:20):
year in that regard.
This event, we pretty much takeover the hotel.
Like we've said in the past,it's almost like the modern day
wife cruise boat, because youcan think about a, a cruise boat
.
It's like you have this map ofall the the levels, and this
levels the the entertainment.
This one's the 24-hour pizzaplace, this is the tubes, this
it's all these like a wholeagenda, right?

(19:43):
So same thing with this event.
There's a rooftop 75 personsit-down lunch that is only for
75 people that buy that ticket.
It's hosted by LA Social Momsand NFL Wives and then they get
photos on the helipad.
Then there's a separate VIPpre-party.
That's on the first floor, barand lounge, which is a brand new
space, and then all of thebooths and brand experiences and

(20:06):
shopping are on the secondfloor in one ballroom and then
another ballroom we have panelson.
We have signature panels at ourevents on beauty and wellness,
fashion and lifestyle, businessand entrepreneurship, celebrity
panel.
And then we have a firesidechat with Millionaire Mamas,
with their CEO, lisa Easton, andthen Jan Marini is doing a
whole new revamp of their lineto more environmentally

(20:28):
conscious packaging and variousthings, new colors and it's now
called Marini Skin Solutions andthey will have a fireside chat
to also unveil their new line.
And then, of course, the finaleof the event is our show
stopping fashion show.
We have a new segment in itwhere one brand will be
moderated, where the looks willbe moderated.
As the models walk out, it's aslower show.

(20:50):
Then we'll have a break forentertainment and then we'll
have our typical regular type offashion show.
So this event there's athousand people.
For anyone who's interested insponsoring, we now have a media
room where media are there tointerview the sponsors and
partners, and it's our biggestevent of the year, so people

(21:12):
should come.
You can live in LA or not livein LA and come, and that's the
overall agenda.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
I love it and you have always like really fabulous
women that you interview and Isee a lot of people stay there
for all the time, like becauseit's several hours.
But there's so much to dobeyond looking, obviously, for
all the stuff that you can buyor you can check out or follow
on IG and get inspired and thendo photos if you're an

(21:41):
influencer and everything, andso, yeah, highly recommend it.
I love it.
I'm still picking out my whiteoutfit.
We'll see what it's gonna be,but so look forward to coming
and then I know you havesomething coming up in Toronto,
right, and in Scottsdale.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
So we have Femme Fall that's the name of the event.
The Femme Fall it's um uh.
Monday, September 8th at thePearl Hotel and Spa in
Burlington, Ontario, and then wehave a what she Said event at
the W Scottsdale November 21st.
That's our fourth year doingthat.
It's going to be a two-dayevent.
One day will be a fashion showon the wet deck, which is the

(22:20):
pool, and then the next day willbe the panels and pop-ups.
So that's going to be a big oneand who knows, we might do more
.
We, we basically are going tohave um, a our magazine launch
in the fall.
I guess we'll use this podcastto announce it, because this has
not been made public yet.
We weren't going to announce ittill after sophie tell.

(22:41):
It's going to be a 40 under 40edition I love that so we may
have our launch party inscottsdale.
We haven't decided yet.
It depends on our cover, girlthat's a perk.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
That's definitely a perk for our cover girl if she
says yes.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
So we'll see yeah, so that's really fun.
So, yeah, that's that's thescoop.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
that's so great, and I know that you have also a lot
of online classes right now, or,you know, you're recording some
of your um, your you know,inspirational uh, life coaches
and CEOs and whatever that aregiving a little bit of the tips
of success, and I guess that'savailable through the membership
.
Is that correct?
Like, if you sign up to be amember on the site, is that

(23:31):
something that you get access to?

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, they're all on demand.
Okay, they're on the back page,so members can go on the back
page.
They can get on demand courses,videos and workbooks.
That is that we are going to bedoing a our website.
It will be brand new also in afew weeks.
So, megan, I don't know if youwant to tease that at all, or?

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Sure I mean we were talking about this the other day
that we haven't redone ourwebsite since, I think, 2020.
So it doesn't really speak tothe current caliber of what
we're doing, but it'sinteresting.
Right In business, you startsomewhere, and I think it's
better to start somewhere thannot start at all.
That's my opinion.
I think a lot of people thinkthat they need to spend

(24:17):
thousands of dollars.
I mean, that was not the casein the beginning, and look where
we grew to.
So we're very excited to have anewly interfaced website that's
very on brand, very sexy, chic,beautiful, feminine.
So that'll launch right beforeSofitel.
So definitely in end of June,july, we'll be promoting it.

(24:39):
It'll be amazing.
So we're really looking forwardto it and I think it just
speaks to more of where we'regoing and what we're doing.
So I know that Megan and Ican't wait to show everyone
because you know it's somethingwe're going and what we're doing
.
So I know that Megan and Ican't wait to show everyone
because you know it's somethingwe're very proud of.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Love it, and I had a feeling that was coming, because
I went to look you up and I waslooking at your, your bios, and
they weren't there and it saysoops, page not found.
And I'm like something is goingon.
So, yeah, so I knew that therewas something that potentially
could be happening.
So, in closing because, as youknow, my podcast is always about
inspiring people to be a betterversion of themselves, even if

(25:16):
they're not, they're notcreatives, they could be
solopreneur, they could be women, you know, navigating in a male
, very competitive male world IfI'm going to ask you a two part
question to both of you, whichI always ask all my guests, so
you can give it a minute, butone of them is how you define
yourself in three words.

(25:38):
And and the second one, if thereis like a little life mantra I
know, megan, you already touchedupon one of them, but if you
have a life mantra of what youkind of use to get yourself out
of a dark hole, right, soanything that sort of like snaps
your energy and gets you backinto a higher vibration, higher
thing.
If there's anything you tellyourself, anything you read, any

(25:59):
quote, any song you dance to,it could be anything.
It's like open, open seasonhere for you to say whatever
comes into your mind.
So I'd'd love, I'd love, to getthat from both of you.
Before we end off, a littlepodcast cute.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Okay, I can do.
Okay, I make me to remember thefirst question, but the second
one I have, because I just toldsomeone yesterday I always play
the legally blonde it's theperfect day.
Do you know the song from?
I don't know what that is.
It's like it's the perfect day.
You don't want me to sing, butyou know the song from?
I don't know what that is.
It's like it's the perfect day.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
You don't want me to sing, but you know nothing can
get in my way.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Like those are the lyrics, so if something is going
wrong I like to play it.
I also played that everymorning dream pageant week, just
as like a fun little tippetwhen I was competing Cause it's
just kind of like a fun songthat you're like I'm not going
to listen to whatever else isgoing on exterior to my life,

(26:55):
but in my world it's a perfectday.
I also find if I get in a slumpI just take action, and usually
that happens because I have toomany things going on.
So then what I do is I take outmy phone or I actually like pen
and paper, old school and Iliterally compartmentalize all
my tasks.
I put modern day, wife, whateverother business things I have,
my home, my relationship,whatever it is, and I write out

(27:16):
every single task, becauseusually when I'm not doing well
or I get stuck, it's because Ihave too many things at once and
I don't know where to go, andthen that gets like a little bit
crazy in my universe.
So then if I do that, I justlook at it and then from there I
usually highlight or pick thethings that are top priority,

(27:37):
meaning if they didn't get donetoday or tomorrow.
Would that be a problem for meor someone else?
Because I'm never going tofinish everything.
I've already come to realizethat.
So that's how I roll.
What was the other question?

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Oh, how you define yourself in three words.
Oh, wow, I know.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Probably feminine.
I feel like it's one bubbly andlike a get it done type of
attitude, Like I don't wait foranyone or anything.
I'm like let's just go, youknow, just get it done.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
So yeah, I love that.
Actually, if I had to defineyou like, that's exactly how it
would have been said you knowalways bubbly, always.
You know you're always supergirly girl and you are
unstoppable.
So that's kind of like how Isee you.
So go you, see yourselfyourself how other people see

(28:29):
you.
Megan, it's your turn.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Oh God, I think I'm a little different.
There's this song in this LinMiranda cartoon movie called
Vivo and there's this actualsong and it's so, it's crazy.
If you watch the music videoit's nuts, but she's like I

(28:53):
bounce to the beat of my owndrum, it's so, it's so nuts.
Um, I'm a little.
Yeah, I, I don't know, I Ihaven't really met anyone like
myself this lifetime.
I definitely basicallyexperience life and things to a
very deep level.

(29:13):
So everything I experience isvery passionate for me.
So, whether it's a relationshipor a friendship or travel or my
work or really anything I do,I'm pretty passionate and I
become pretty I don't do thingsif I'm not going to do it all

(29:36):
out.
So it's hard for me almost withworking out right, I've had to
sort of accept that I don't havea lot of time to work out,
because normally I'm the type ofperson like if I can't work out
every day, then I'm not goingto start because I can't do it
every means.
I've had to just kind of chillout on that.
So I would say there's thatlike I'm pretty passionate.
Like I love music, I lovetheater, I love iconic people in

(29:59):
history that I become obsessedwith.
Um, I love Billy Joel, I lovemy dad.
I've loved everything that I'veloved in my life.
I really love.
If I love a restaurant, Ireally love it.
I mean, I think I explained itenough.
That would be one.
Yeah, um, I don't know, I thinkit's like the main thing for me.

(30:20):
I think, um, I like to, I, I, I, I don't know, this is hard for
me.
I guess, like, I'm a little bitlike, I like a little bit of
everything.
I like having a life with a lotof action, but I also like to
take some time off and have anormal life.
I like to have, take some timeoff and have a normal life.
I like to have, I like to bemarried, but I, I like to be

(30:42):
able to date other men.
I'm divorced now, so don'tworry.
Like, sometimes I'm like, oh, Iwant to get remarried right
away, and then sometimes I'mlike, but I'm having so much fun
not being married, you know.
So I don't know.
I kind of like a little bit ofeverything.
It's hard and I change my minda lot about what I want.
So right now I'm just lettingmyself do that.

(31:03):
I don't feel like I need todecide and I care a lot about
the planet we live on, so that'ssomething that I think about a
lot, whether it's like animalsor the environment, or you know
my son.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Our three world, obviously.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, that's just one Like.
I really ran like four othernonprofits in New York but I
don't really talk about itbecause it would seem kind of
unreal.
But I, I just there's so much.
My biggest like upset, I think,with the world right now is
that celebrities not investingin humanitarian work.
And when they become successfuland rich, they just start
creating more lines to makemoney off of.

(31:43):
And I'm like, when is the moneyenough?
Yes, you now start promotinglike why isn't j-lo ever switch
her platform to like I've madeenough money.
I'm going to india for sixmonths to build 50 schools with
my money.
Beyonce.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Stop human trafficking from all the little
Latino kids that are beingtrafficked.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
That's my biggest disagreement with our society is
that, like enough, there's gotto be a point when it's enough
money and enough about me and mylooks.
So I would just say that for me, I that I I don't.
I also like adopted a certainthing when I was doing nonprofit
work in my twenties where sortof when people acknowledge
things, I usually say, yeah,like we're doing a great job, or

(32:32):
we're doing this.
Or someone's like, well, whatare you doing with drug?
For real, I was like, well,we're doing blah.
I don't usually say I'm doingthis and I'm doing that and
these are my accomplishments.
I'm more about other peoplewinning too, because I feel that
, um, like it makes meuncomfortable if I'm doing

(32:53):
really well but other peoplearen't doing well.
So it's important to me that,like I acknowledge other people
and have a group, that I feellike we're all working together.
So I think those are the mainthings for me.
Sorry, those are long.
Those are not three words thatyou asked.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
I love it, though, because it's very inspirational,
and I got to say, you know, aswe're talking about that, I just
had this download.
You know the AppSumo guy NoahKeegan is his name, I think.
Anyway, he did.
He's became a multimillionaireover with creating this platform
that is called AppSumo, whereyou can try this different app
and this different technology.
So he wrote a book and saying Ithink it's the billion dollar

(33:33):
weekend, or, yeah, billiondollar weekend, and it's all
about stop being so hard onyourself and, and, like I said,
you know, when you're havinglists or whatever you know, look
, look at your failure asexperiments.
You know you're caught.
We're constantly experimenting.
We're constantly.
If we look at something that'slike, oh, that was a fun

(33:53):
experiment, you know like, hey,I tried this and it kind of
failed epically or maybe itwasn't the right time or
whatever.
It's an experiment.
People, this is a way for youto just like get the formula and
mix it in a different way andmaybe the next time it will
stick.
And I think if celebrities, likeyou said, and even us, we
looked at, how can we experimentinto making the world a better

(34:17):
place?
What are the things that we cando to constantly find ways to
bring communities together, likeyou're doing, the Modern Day
Wife, and creating meaningfulconversations and enhancing
brands.
I think if we all did that,like you said, instead of me, me
, me and many people are intothe me me, me phase because of

(34:38):
social media, which is not a badthing, we all want to have
attention, we all kind of likenearly do but how can we use
those attention units to sort oflike then kind of snowball and
bring, bring change right?
And I think that's what yougirls are doing.
You're, like I said, you seemto be constantly pivoting while
staying on brand and and I thinkthat that would be probably the

(35:01):
perfect title to this podcast,because that's what you both are
you know how to pivot whilestaying on brand and this is
exactly what you're doing.
You know, because you're notpivoting like completely doing
something different, you're justopening it up to very I think
also, we're discovering moreabout our brand as we're living

(35:22):
our lives.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
We have this new thing that we put in our media
kit this year in regards to,like, seasons of life, right,
and then even like it's in there, it's like, basically, women
want to do it all, and perhapsyou can, perhaps you can't, but
maybe you shift in the thingsyou're doing.
And then I was even thinkingabout that even more recently
when I was doing this coursethat I'm doing on regarding,

(35:46):
well, there's seasons of lifeand it's celebrating all the
things we get to do as a woman,a woman.
So I think we're also we haveto stay on brand also, because
it is what makes us unique.
And sorry, I know we're goingreally long, but we don't want
to become what all the otherwomen's groups are doing, cause
it's not what we stand for andwe also don't want.
We don't want to become anotherwomen's business group.

(36:08):
That's not what.
That isn't what we're meant tobe doing.
Only, we have that pillar, butwe also have, like modern day
mama series, which is just aboutmotherhood, and we have mom.
We have women who come, who arejust stay-at-home moms, so we
kind of want to embrace all ofthat, as opposed to what's
mostly out there, which is justthe business hat of a woman.
So I think, at the core ofeverything, even though we sort

(36:30):
of change well, we're in newfashion, we're in new beauty and
all this I think we both havethe agreement that well, it has
to stay, though true to that.
This is about women and thedifferent hats and also
embracing all those hats,whereas I don't know if society
embraces all of those hats.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
so okay, a lot of make-drop moments here, ladies,
and I'm just so lovely that youwent over, because you know when
the the conversations areinteresting and stimulating.
I don't like having like atimeframe on myself, so I'm glad
that we were able to chat and Ilook forward to seeing you at

(37:06):
the event.
And, you know, if you want tocheck out a little bit,
obviously wait a couple of weeksmaybe, because you will well,
maybe by the time the episodedrops, you'll be able to check
out this brand new website andand and how it became a a 2.0,
3.0 version and get your ticketsfor swirem lag, because I'll
drop them in the stories and inthe description and and follow

(37:27):
this incredible ladies and let'ssee what they they cook up next
.
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Thank you so much.
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