November 8, 2024 • 48 mins
Join us for a transformative conversation on the Heart of Success show with Nancy, a distinguished life strategist with over 26 years of experience. Discover how balancing professional achievements with personal fulfillment can lead to a more holistic path to success. Nancy shares her personal journey, offering insight into how stress and negative thought patterns can impact our well-being, and encourages a shift away from traditional success metrics towards a more nurturing approach to life.
We'll uncover the hidden impact of unresolved childhood traumas on our health and discuss the universal experience of fear. By comparing human experiences with the natural birthing process of animals, we invite listeners to consider how these fears often manifest in adulthood. Nancy highlights the importance of addressing these root causes with a spiritual perspective, emphasizing the power of self-reflection and self-care strategies in distinguishing between burnout, depression, and overwhelming emotions.
Finally, we explore the concept of alignment and the art of pivoting in one's career to achieve true fulfillment. Nancy discusses the necessity of aligning personal and organizational values and the profound impact of mentorship and support systems on our path to success. With gratitude, we conclude with exciting possibilities for future collaborations, including a potential masterclass at our wellness center, inviting you to join us on this journey towards a balanced, successful life.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone, happy Wednesday.
You are on the Heart of Successshow and I'm your host, larisa
Vakulina.
I go live every Wednesday at 2pm, south Australian time zone
and here on this show I'msharing with you different tips,
tools, motivation, inspirationhow you can build your life with
(00:20):
holistic success and just passthrough all the hassles of the
conventional success and liveyour life with happiness,
fulfillment and joy.
Today I have a very, very, veryspecial guest for you.
You're going to be blown awayby this lady.
She is a distinguished lifestrategist.
(00:44):
She is a clarity messenger anda state-of-mind specialist with
over 26 years of experienceguiding individuals towards
holistic success.
So we are on the same page.
We're passionate about ourtopic.
So throughout her illustriouscareer, nancy has empowered over
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10,000 clients, includingC-suite executives, mid-level
managers and business owners, tonavigate the intricate balance
between professional achievementand personal fulfillment.
So today we're going to reallychange your life.
We're going to share with you adifferent approach to success,
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because most of the people arecaught up in running success
race and really forgetting aboutthat internal feeling of the
happiness and fulfillment.
So today, nancy is going toshare with you her own personal
experience of moving through thehardship and challenges of life
(01:57):
and also how.
Now she's guiding a lot ofsuccessful people to do the same
.
She's closing that gap betweenthat professional achievements
and the personal happiness.
So, nancy, can you please sharewith us what inspired you
(02:19):
behind your journey as a lifestrategist and state of mind
specialist?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
First and foremost, thank you for inviting me today.
It's my honor indeed.
Well, I've been there once upona time too.
I am just like many of usdescribed ourselves as a high
performing professional.
All right, or high achievers.
That means we go for our goals.
You know, we set a goal andthen we stay on the path and
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whatever it takes for us, we getthere.
That is great, right.
It is important that we stretchour potential and fulfill our
heart desires.
However, sometimes we becometoo focused that you know what I
always call it, like a horsewearing blinkers, so you don't
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see anything else so-calledexcept in front of you.
While it sounds all good beingfocused, but being a human, it
is way more than just fulfillingthat goals, because it is not
linear, it is not a straightline, it is not, like you know,
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producing a mark.
It's not straightforward likethat, right?
Okay, so we have our spiritualself.
We have many different rolesthat we play, right, and so
often this may be overlooked oreven altogether not even
(03:53):
entertained.
When that happens, all right,that we are so focused on only
one thing, or fairly much onething, other aspects of our life
will fall to the sideways.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yes, and one of the things that can fall to the
sideways is our health.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yes, I know too well about it.
Nancy, tell me more.
I mean, I've been there myselfin a very, very deep illness
crisis and all the other crises,so I know exactly what you're
talking about.
But I think we really need toshare with other people because
some of successful, reallysuccessful people they are still
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running that race and theydon't really see that yet and I
don't want them to see it.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So we are here to share with them that painful
state yeah, technically speaking, unless somebody is born with a
health ailment, all right.
For example, somebody born witha hole in the heart, born with
some kind of you know, rare, youknow kind of disease know, rare
(05:05):
, you know kind of disease allright, unless, unless somebody's
born with that.
If we are not born with anyhealth ailments, I personally
believe and it's not a personalbelief, although I express it
that way it is a fact that we,our body, is born robust, strong
.
Yeah, keep us going for a longtime.
(05:28):
But, the big.
But when our life is not goingthe ideal way, all right, then
something will give way.
How does that happen?
In the most simplisticunderstanding, right, our brain
produces natural chemical.
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So how does this naturalchemical comes about?
Whether it's good chemical orbad chemical is from the way we
think and from the way we think.
Way we think and from the waywe think, then it goes into the
way we feel.
So, in the most simplisticunderstanding feel good good
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chemical, feel bad, bad chemical.
Therefore, when our brainproduces good chemical, we are
really robust and born to lastand we are healthy, good to go
at any one time.
But when our brain start toproduce bad chemicals, then you
will attack our organs, oursystems.
(06:33):
And perhaps you know our newcells.
We always have new cells growth, obviously, you know, granted
at a different period of time,that the new cells grow may not
be such ideal cells, so not goodcells.
So, therefore, accumulation ofnot so good cells can then
become cancerous cells, the mostsimplistic thing to understand
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that.
So therefore, our health can betaken a toll.
And then, of course, course,relationship with our family or
friends, or even with oneself.
Right, what a typical thing thata lot of these high achievers,
high performing professionals,all right, they actually have
all the success, understand,okay, call it.
(07:21):
Yeah, the power, the title, the, the money, everything all
right that they have, but yetthey feel the void, the
emptiness.
They cannot even put theirfinger down as what it is,
because if they're going tostart talking about it, then it
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sounds they are very ungrateful.
You know what I mean.
You've got everything.
What are you complaining?
Right, but it is still real.
They are not feeling goodwithin Emptiness and they wake
up to, okay, sure, you know thecrazy rat race and go, go, go go
, but at the end of the day, forwhat Wealth is important?
(08:06):
Sure, all right, I've never notsaid important, but that can't
be the only thing.
But after you have built yourwealth, adding another zero does
not make a person happier.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
No, that's it.
This is the paradox we live in,right, and that's what's really
happening everywhere.
Where we're still living inthis space of competing, we want
to climb that ladder and justwant to achieve all these ticks.
We put ticks for the roles andpositions and how much money we
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earn and things.
It's like for me.
I lived it.
I always felt something ismissing, but I never paid
attention to it.
I actually turned away from itand that's then accumulated into
huge blow up, right.
So I really would like to hearyour story, Like you seems like,
(09:04):
not only through education.
Get into that point, right, youhave your own story behind.
How did you understand it all?
How did you awake and had theawareness of that?
You know I need to look atthese areas beyond my success.
I just need to really look atthat.
(09:26):
Can you share that with usplease?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'm glad it started early for me.
All right, as I mentioned, youknow, I'm one of those high
performers, right?
How are those high achievers?
So, at a very young age, aslike 25, 26, I already have
achieved success as that youngperson.
But then there was a hell scare.
(09:50):
There was a hell scare, allright, at somewhere I think 26
or 27, thereabout, okay, a cystwas discovered and I went nine
years because I don't even havea pimple on my face as a
teenager.
How can I resist?
Yes, this is in my womb, andthat's funny for a young person.
(10:14):
All right, that was so long agowe are talking about 30 odd
years ago and, um, so I was likein a denier, right?
So when I was in, I was inierfor two years.
Then, after two years, I said,hey, you know, let me not muck
around.
I went for second checkup andby then it has grown.
The disease has grown so huge,so huge, yeah, Like the biggest
(10:40):
abalone you can find inAustralia.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, we found the in Australia.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, we found a second one.
Wow, yes, exactly, feel goodgood chemical.
Feel bad, bad chemical.
And I recalled at a time I'malways angry, I'm always pissed
off because you know how we got,we want to get things done and
that kind of thing.
So obviously my brain producescortisol.
So you know, no wonder that'sgrowth, okay.
(11:11):
So thank goodness it was notcancerous, because at that point
they said they cannot, it's notso advanced, so they are not
able to tell if it's cancerousor not.
They have to, you know, removeit.
Then they have to diagnose it,but in the midst of removing it,
you know, if they find it iscancerous, they have to remove
my entire womb.
Now, at 27, you don't want tohear that.
You know what I mean.
(11:31):
Well, thank goodness it wascancerous and then it was good.
You know it was benign and uh,that was my wake-up call.
Yeah, so, uh, that's why I saidI'm glad it.
You know it came early for me,at 28, and therefore that
changed my path, that I becamespiritual, and spiritual is not
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religious.
It's not about religion, allright, it's about the energy,
the universe.
You know it's going to be, youknow, much bigger than we know
here between our years?
Yes, absolutely More than oureducation.
And all that so that I took ona different path.
I still remember I went to Balia lot.
(12:14):
Oh, those days Bali wasdifferent.
You're talking about 35, 38years ago.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You know when the spiritual and in fact I became
even more successful after Ibecame spiritual, absolutely,
because that's how it works whenyou connect to this field, when
you feel the part of yourselfin the tapestry of the whole
creation, and then you actuallystart to honor yourself, like
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you start to really get insideand say, okay, what do what do I
want in my life, how do I wantto leave it right?
And that's where they start toget more success.
Yeah, well, that's.
And then what's happened next?
Like you then, uh, you thenlook at writing book or how did
all of your um you know steppinginto the role of the powerful
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strategist?
How did you start to do thelife, um you know, coaching or
life strategies for other people?
Is that happened back whenyou've been young or there was
some time?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
so the approach become different.
So it's not all about being somaterial, it's not no, in in
that so-called let's call it thetextbook way of success.
Yeah, but rather, like I saidin a more, not only just
holistic, but in the sense ofyour being okay, your well-being
is the core of it all.
(13:42):
Right, and then I always liketo believe that the universe
always here to provide andsupport you.
Just get to into this alignmentand it's not about being
self-centered or about me, me,me, me, me, me, me, but how can
I serve the greater good?
So when it happened that you'reserving the greater good, all
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right.
I mean, more happens.
So many people have talkedabout it.
So until a person experiencesit themselves, right, like
yourself, Otherwise it's so hardto describe it in words.
I know Exactly.
So things are swooning planesand the whole approach is
different.
There are more meaning, thereare fulfillment.
(14:28):
So one of the things obviouslywe have to look at first what is
our life Purpose?
And life purpose A can't bejust to raise our Family.
It's our responsibility,anybody's responsible.
They have got family.
But it cannot be the lifepurpose.
Life purpose can't be.
It's our responsibility, allright, anybody's responsible.
They have got family, but itcannot be the life purpose.
Life purpose can't be, you know, being at the top of your game.
(14:51):
That cannot be a life purpose,right?
Yes, life purpose first has tocome from values, absolutely
your personal values, your corevalues, and then from the core
values right, what I call it,the activities you choose to do
so.
For example, I choose to be asinger.
I call it activity, but with mylife purpose, that I'm using,
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then, this singing as a vehicleto expound my life purpose.
Or somebody could be anengineer, right?
Somebody could be a teacher,right?
So the activity is what wechoose, but there's no meaning,
it's just a role, if we don'thave the life purpose.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
That's it, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So that's how I do my work with that life purpose,
and that's still not enough.
After a life purpose and thenyou know how to expound it
through inverted comma theactivity, the vehicle you know,
call that then you got to go forthe greater good of what I call
the higher purpose.
Yeah, so when you're alignedwith all these three aspects of
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it, all right, every day is rockand roll.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Absolutely.
It's like you're riding thewave.
Yes, absolutely.
It is all obvious right now,but still a lot of people are
still not seeing it, they're notfeeling it, they're not going
through this transformation.
They still cling to that oldparadigm of fearing to lose
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whatever they already get, andthis is really like not serving
them.
It just stays as a barrier orthe hustle for them to actually
transform.
So how do you I mean I knowyou're working with the C-suite
executives and the high profilepeople and I found myself
because I work with the sametype of clients it is a little
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harder for these people toactually accept that they are
missing something.
I was there myself.
I was missing something, but Icouldn't nail it.
I was there myself.
I was missing something, but Icouldn't nail it.
I couldn't really nail it whatit is and how.
Yet alone to go and find somehelp.
I didn't even.
I didn't really.
I thought that I'm weak if I goand look for help, and that's
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what a lot of successful peopleperceive Like.
They think they're weak if theygo and ask for help.
How do you um navigate thistype of things usually?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
just everything else.
Okay, it's kind of interesting.
Prevention is better than cure.
But most times it's not a caseAll right, it's only when the
person have the pain the paincould come from.
Example, anxiety attack,anxiety, panic attack.
Right, the stress becomes sointense, right, they're having
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this heart palpitation.
They're going to the A&E often,but yet the doctor says nothing
wrong with you.
Okay, but they're getting allthis of ailments or they suffer
from insomnia, eczema,hypertension, so something has
to be, something has to be nogood.
First that happened.
Then you say, okay, now I seekhelp, something has to be no
(18:18):
good.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
First that happened, then it's like okay, now I seek
help.
That's exactly how.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
So that's where they will come to me and obviously
you know I would deep dive.
The first thing we ought to dois to know the root cause, not
the superficial thing.
All right, of course, all of uscomes from different background
(18:42):
, but nevertheless, uh, it'suniversal that the root cause
often comes from our childhood.
Not as an adult, okay, unlessit's some kind of trauma that
happened, okay, uh, near-deathexperience, that kind of trauma,
you know, some sort.
But otherwise the root cause isalways coming from childhood.
And I'm not trying to imply thata child has to be bad or
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violent not necessary, notnecessarily that way but because
as a child, uh, our, we are notdeveloped yet to analyze.
So therefore, whatever that weexperience from the outside,
some of things may have strongerenergy than others.
Of course, in this case it'snot the positive energy and has
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an impact on the child'svibration.
So, vibrationally, the childtakes that in.
I call that.
It becomes a chip, chip, a chip.
So of course, life goes on andyou just go about in life until
something happened, it sort oftriggered something happened as
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an adult, it triggered that chip, it triggered that root cause
and, if anything else, as humanbeing, of course we are all
human being, but I often tell myclients I said we are a
spiritual being having a humanexperience.
We are not a human on MotherEarth to fulfill whatever we are
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supposed to fulfill here.
all right.
So therefore, having the humanexperience is good.
However, that child does notknow better because it's not,
you know, made to analyze yet.
(20:34):
So when I deep dive into theroot cause, therefore the root
cause, when the subconsciousmind and the conscious mind
so-called know where that comesfrom, 50, 60% of it is kind of
ah, yes, it's aha moment,exactly the aha moment, all
right.
So, for example, what a typicalthing is?
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All I'd like to believe is allhumans, we are programmed fear.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yes, fear yes.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Like I said, you know you look at animals when they
give birth.
They just give birth sonaturally and quiet.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yes, Quiet, peaceful, gave birth so naturally and and
quiet yes, quiet, peaceful,only human is like such a trauma
.
It's.
It's a trauma for the motherand it's a trauma for the child
and then all this, uh, traumaticexperience plays such a vital
role in developing all of theselimitations, the fears, the
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doubts, the things.
It's like it takes all life tounravel all of these things,
unless you guys meet, nancy, orme by the way, name here is not
mine.
I noticed it's my son's namethere, but that's okay, nancy,
you continue to talk and tell mehow can professionals identify
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and overcome feelings ofstagnation or burnout in their
careers.
This is really verycontroversial for many people
because a lot of people don'tknow how to identify if they are
burnt out or they depressed orthey, you know, having this
overwhelming feelings.
They, you know, most of thepeople just are really confused
(22:25):
about um, this, this state, andthey just drag it forever,
hoping that it's going to goaway by itself, but it never
does.
So how you um look at this andhow do you, you know, recommend
and what you do with you know,sure as I mentioned early on.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Right, often, right, I get into the root cause and
then it is coming from thatchild, all right, so so all this
burnout and all this is alsocoming from that root cause.
If you think about the workthat we do, right, we do the
work that we know how to do.
We are not doing work that wedon't know how to do right, Just
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like somebody have got say fearof public speaking, or suddenly
go into a panic mode.
They're saying things, they'respeaking on subjects that they
know about.
They can't possibly talk on asubject they don't know about
right.
So how is it suddenly?
You know there could be a pointthat they just suddenly freeze,
or they feel uncomfortable, orthey become tense, or the
workload is so much you knowthey get burnout Because, think
(23:31):
about it, how do you eat anelephant?
Correct, we know, know that.
So what is there to be sooverwhelmed about?
So the overwhelming is notconscious, it's subconscious
it's subconscious.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I know that's the.
That's the reason we cannotaccess it.
It seems like we cannot, but itactually sits on the edge.
If we only have the intentionto do to have this work, we we
can actually access it quiteeasily.
I'm trying to work out all mydisplay here, but, nancy, stay
with me.
I'm so sorry.
(24:07):
This is the name of my son herefor some reason.
So I'm not sure why, uh, andwhy it is a my colors, but I
cannot really work out the name.
Anyway, it doesn't matter, myaudience knows me and they will
recognize.
(24:27):
But the son was doing his ownrecording in my studio and
changed the name and I didn'tnotice it anyway.
So, yes, we, we we're talkingabout really, really deep issues
and we talk about the core rootof of all the conflicts, of all
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the you know suffering, of allthe pains of uh, all the uh push
and pull like we.
We almost like going throughthe some sort of uh sickness of
the barrier and we're pushingand pulling so hard.
I don't believe that people arecreated to do this.
(25:08):
We create to enjoy our livesand actually receive what the
universe is bringing to us in avery relaxed state, right, right
, so I know you've been in yourwork.
You pay a lot of attention to,you know boundaries, setting the
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self-care and the work-lifebalance, and this is something
that people know a lot.
They talk about it.
It's stylish to talk about allof these things, but do we
really embody these practices?
How do you?
What is your approach about it?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
One thing that we all ought to do, especially as we
aged.
The only thing that we can do Imean, all of us, face is right
is getting older.
Nobody gets younger, so it'snot a negative thing, all right,
it is a positive thing.
I love getting older, so in anycase, the one thing that I do
often and I coach my clients andwhether you know one-on-one or
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my group coaching I say the onething that we must do regularly
is introspection,self-reflection.
All right, I do quickself-reflection every night,
just a quick one, like what didI do today?
Okay, for example, tonight I'mgoing to think about okay, you
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know, with Larissa I just gothrough very quickly, all right.
And to do that, you know, justgoing through my day is just to
have a check.
If there's something I need todo, some correction.
I don't want to wait for daysand weeks because you'll be
forgotten Some correction andthen.
So therefore, the next dayyou'll become better.
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Then, on a regular basiswhether it could be a weekly or
monthly, depending on theperson's schedule then do
self-reflection with your lifepurpose.
Are you on track?
Are you off track?
you know how some of us get sobusy, busy and then we just get
off track yes, yes yes, right,and sometimes maybe we have a
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family member that is not wellor get caught up with some
events, and then we just get youknow, you know, just just go
astray, so-called so, on afairly regular, whether weekly
or monthly, right, go check um,do a self reflection.
All right, that, yes, are youstill on a path with your life
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purpose?
All right, that's somethingthat you got away from it, or
that's something that you haveadded to it?
Or some adjustments, someamendments, because life is
dynamic, it's not static.
Yeah, we don't have to wait forthe year, and that set goes for
next year.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, that's how the common thing is Like let's have
the new year resolution.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
You don't have to wait again.
It should be a regular basisand of course we can.
I mean, like tonight, in fact,not even tonight.
Already about two weeks ago,with my group, we restarted our
goal setting for 2025.
But then I'm looking at likethe breakthrough.
Don't do the same thing, youknow, increase the numbers or
whatever, but what's thebreakthrough that you want?
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So you need a life purpose, ahigher purpose, but what's the
breakthrough?
What's your next?
And next is not just aboutmaking the big bucks.
I mean, if you want to go ahead, that's fine, you know, but it
got to be a more holistic, amore comprehensive and again, I
always like to believe that, youknow, is that to serve others.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
So, like my life purpose, you know, is to serve
with love and truth.
So empower others to live theirlife meaningfully, purposefully
and in fulfillment.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Absolutely yes.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
That's what I do.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
It's beautiful.
It's beautiful when we actuallytransform this energetic
construct behind, like racingafter success, or we're serving
to achieve success with otherstogether and serve them to
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achieve their success.
See the difference, theenergetic difference from just
racing and doing and actuallyserving.
So it's a really two differentenergetic background behind this
concept, because they don'tunderstand the energetic basis
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behind their actions and behindthe materialistic expression,
right?
So, yeah, fantastic.
I love that, because thisreally is something that we're
moving all together.
The transformation has alreadystarted.
We all need to really payattention to it because, if you
will be staying behind, well,the world is moving.
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A lot of awakened people,leaders, successful people
moving forward withunderstanding the self better,
to tap into this inner geniusand start express it in a true
sense of it with open heart,right?
So now I would like to reallyask you about practical tools,
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because we talk about more aboutgeneral concept and how the
tendency of current world, whereit's moving and how we
understand these concepts andthings.
But let's move into thepractical tips and tools and
maybe methods, whatever you haveto share with audience and also
(31:10):
maybe you want to invite theminto your, you know whatever on
offer.
I know you have books.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Here I'm going to share Nancy's website.
Go there, there's heaps ofvaluable things.
You can just see books there.
You can see programs andworkshops and things, and she's
amazing.
There you can see programs andworkshops and things, and she's
(31:40):
amazing.
Uh, just go and check it upbecause you're really gonna be
so, um, surprised how, how she'sapproaching it all and how she
can, in a simple terms, toexplain to you how you can
create holistic success.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Thank you.
Yeah, as I said earlier on,first is the introspection, all
right, so it's theself-reflection.
Okay, you want that.
That's already a very practicaltool.
And then next, all right, youneed self-care.
My self-care is number one,it's above everything else,
because I said if I'm no good,I'm no good for anybody, of
(32:20):
course, yeah.
Else, because I said if I'm nogood, I'm no good for anybody.
Yeah, so I know why.
Yes, we talk about servingothers and being with others,
but we got to be good, so we gotto be good as our self-care all
right, and self-care, obviouslyvery basic things, but critical
.
It's like you know we alreadyknow what is what diet is.
We don't have to go for aspecial diet, but we really know
what's not good for us.
Don't go there, right, knowingthat sugar is not good.
(32:43):
Why go there, right, even dothat?
You know what I mean.
We don't need to be a healthfanatic, but this is you just
jolly.
I know what's not good, right?
We know we need to exercise twovery basic and you but critical
, and you cannot remove thisaway from the body, because the
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physical body is the vehiclethat allow us to fulfill what we
want.
It's just like we want to gofrom point a to point B, we need
a vehicle, otherwise we can'tget there.
So our physical body is ourvehicle.
So, of course, the self-carebesides the food intake and the
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exercise is here.
What are you thinking aboutmost times?
And it's not about positivethinking, negative thinking.
Are your thoughts serving youMost times?
And it's not about positivethinking, negative thinking.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Are your thoughts serving?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
you Okay?
Are your thoughts not servingyou Okay?
Or are you getting too seriouswith random thoughts that are
just random anyway?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
It's like a clutter it comes and goes, comes and
goes.
But we can train our mind as wetrain.
Dogs, like in the mind can betrained right.
So then we can.
We can start to reallytransform this cluttered
thinking into much more positive, intentional, how you want to
(34:13):
see your life, and that you cando it with your mind.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, I just had a client last night, all right, so
he's quite a high position inthe bank.
And then he says I've got mixedfeelings today.
You know he walked in.
I've got mixed feelings today.
I said, ok, tell me about yourmixed feeling.
He says, on one hand, I'm verypleased with myself that I
cracked through some stuff.
That is tough right, becausehe's into this high net worth
(34:41):
credit borrowing, you know stufflike that.
Okay, so he has to crack this.
But he got so pissed off withhis boss.
Okay, although he's got hishigh up there, he still have a
boss, all right, that wants himto do X, y, z instead of A, b, c
and da, da, da, all that.
So he got really pissed offthat.
Why are they expecting?
(35:02):
How can a leader behave thisway?
And he went on and on about itand I just sat there.
I was very calm just looking athim, just waiting for him to
finish.
And then, when he's done, Isaid he got careless.
And he looked at me what yougot personal?
Again, he got careless as hebecame personal with his boss.
(35:26):
You think your boss is tryingto be funny with you?
He's just doing what he'ssupposed to do.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
So he's thinking all right, it's like the boss is
just trying to be funny with himmaking life difficult for him.
You got my point, so just whatI mean is your thoughts serving
you?
Yes, so where did that comefrom?
Again, childhood, childhood.
His parents were busy working,so he created a narrative in his
(36:02):
head that his parents just didnot.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Don't love him, don't you know?
That's what parents always do.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, did not care enough.
They care for their businessmore than they care for me.
So he created a narrative.
So, although nothing badhappened in his childhood, but
he created it as a child, sowhen he grew up as an adult,
it's very easy for him to becomepersonal with anything.
Even when he drives on the roadand somebody cut his lane, he
get personal.
It's as if that driver istrying to be funny with him.
(36:32):
This is just how this persondrives.
I'm not saying he's good, butthen you know he gets personal.
So when I managed to like checkin with his thoughts.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
They went like oh yeah, yeah, it's like nothing.
I mean, where are we put ourenergy into just whinging and,
uh, you know, resenting andblaming and things.
It's so much energy instead ofyou know what.
That's okay, he's doing his ownthings.
I'm going to do my thingsbetter and I'm going to do my
(37:06):
thing, that's all.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
You see, all of our feelings is coming from thoughts
created in the moment, thoughtscreated in the moment.
So if we don't pay attention tosome of these thoughts that are
not relevant, you go away, orwe change the certain thoughts.
That which I did with him, allright.
Then he said oh yeah, I justgot personal.
Actually, you know, felt sopeaceful, and he texted me after
(37:32):
that, when he left, he says mygoodness, I was singing while I
was walking by a car.
Yes, you see, just that shiftitself, you can call that
already a transformation.
Yeah, so these are the stuffthey do.
And, of course, the next thingis integration.
One has to integrate personalsatisfaction, or personal
(37:56):
fulfillment, with professionalsuccess.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
All right If you find that your professional success
is really not giving you any joy, for whatever reason.
Okay, I don't get personalanybody here.
All right, really, that's notall right.
Even how you change yourthoughts and all that's not,
then it means there's noalignment time to change that.
There's always somethingsomewhere.
(38:21):
I mean, I always say it's neverenough.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
That was my next question, like what are some key
signs that indicate it might betime for career pivot or
transition?
Is this something that you alsocan see in clients, Because
sometimes people just put somuch struggling in their roles?
Yes, but they just the thoughtdidn't come to their mind to
(38:46):
start to look at maybe changing,because the fear of change is
another thing, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
So you see, I would say it's not about the job match
, I'm sorry.
It's not about a jobdescription, sorry.
It's not about a jobdescription.
It's about a job descriptionSorry.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
It's not about a job description.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
It's about a job match, yeah, okay.
So the match, uh uh, theculture, all right, but it your
values, your value and the youknow organization values, right.
The whole attitude, right.
All that has to have a match.
There must be a certainalignment.
Sure, we are all different inour own way, but there must be a
(39:25):
certain kind of alignment.
But if there's no alignment andthe gap is so huge, then it's
really you have to lookelsewhere, because it's only
going to make you sick, it's notgoing to get better.
The gap is going to get wider,wider, wider, wider, wider.
It's not going to get better.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
The gap is going to get wider wider, wider, wider,
wider.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
It's not going to get better.
Yeah.
So then of course, we all haveour skills right.
Look into your skills, lookinto you know what's your next.
We don't always have to do thesame thing.
I mean, I was just telling himto.
You know the other thing I wasalso moving.
My client was like you know, tothe next level, uh, and I said
he says I've been doing this forso long, right?
I said yes, it's good to bevertical, right depth, but we
(40:07):
can also be vertical and pivot.
That's it.
Yes, for example, I've been anational swimmer, right, I swim
for the country and, you know,maybe I'm even an Olympic
swimmer.
Okay, I won the Olympic gold.
It doesn't mean I'm even anOlympic swimmer.
I won the Olympic gold.
It doesn't mean I have to be aswimmer all my life, right, yes,
with my technique and my skillsas a swimmer, how can I pivot?
(40:31):
I'm not necessarily, now I godo and become an F&B
entrepreneur.
No, all right, but it's stillthe same thing.
How can I pivot, bringing thewealth, you know, of the
experiences and the skills andall of that?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
So I think, a lot of people Utilizing all the
resources of the past, but pivotin bringing all of this
goodness and goodness and allthe experiences into something
new.
It's such an adventure, thelife is such an adventure, and
why don't we just play?
(41:11):
I mean, this is reallysomething, and especially
successful people.
They actually can affordthemselves to play and see how
much they can enrich their liveswith just being a little bit
more open To say, okay,everything is possible.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yes, You're right, it's really about being open.
So a lot of them will just dragtheir feet until retirement.
No, wait till retirement.
You know, I mean I don't know'tknow, you know what I mean.
So again, you know, it's justreally knowing how to pivot.
Yeah, that that would be nice.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
wow, that that was really really good um discussion
here.
And you see, guys, nancy, she'sso knowledgeable, she is having
these unique skills to actuallygo deeper into your psychology,
into your spiritual being, intoyour um.
You know skills that are hereon the surface and she can
(42:14):
actually see through it and shecan start to to really guide you
through all of these littleblocks and things that you may
not even imagine that they exist.
So you have your focus, likeyou said.
I like that.
You know comparison with ahorse.
But really go to Nancy'swebsite, check it out.
(42:40):
She's got beautiful video there.
I was in love with this video.
It really, in one minute, givea absolute clarity of what nancy
is doing and what she's capableof.
And uh, that's, that's justbrilliant um, internationally
recognized woman that workedwith high-profile achievers,
(43:04):
with the performance andperformance people, and she
really fixed them.
So if you guys thinking thatit's time for you to start to
look at your life and start toreally pivot or have some sort
of guidance and support, well,nancy is your first stop, or
(43:25):
maybe me.
We're both here to help you torecognize that success is not
only money, roles, positions andall the external symbols of the
success, it's more thatinternal state of feeling and
(43:46):
being, because, for me, anywhereI go, I take my holistic
success with me, I'm always atpeace, I'm joyful, I'm happy
anywhere I go, without beingdependent on what's happening
externally from me.
And I can see Nancy is the same, because she already achieved
(44:08):
that success inside.
She connected to her coreessence, and that's what we need
to learn from these people.
We are, of course, surrounded bymany, many coaches and mentors,
and you name it.
There's so many experts rightnow, but what I believe is that
(44:30):
we only can help the otherperson to the extent and
deepness of what we helpedourselves.
Right, if we have the combinedour formal educations, but, uh,
the experience.
This is really something thatis very, very valuable.
So, nancy, maybe we just have alast question.
(44:52):
Uh, you have your um, yourlinkedin uh account and you have
your other accounts, I thinkI'm not sure.
So you have your books sold atyour website or somewhere else
Amazon.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah, my book Love Rain Night is my first book, and
then this is Success Redefinedwith Jack Canfield.
Yeah, so you can go to LinkedIn.
You just find Nancy Ho,Singapore.
You'll be able to find me yeah,right, yeah, it's easy.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yes, that's really, that's really really good.
So so, guys, really I'm sohappy Nancy have been with us
today live.
I know probably not a lot ofaudience in the live, but this
is now forever.
It's going to be on my youtubechannel.
Nancy probably will put on herssomewhere else.
So please, um, look at yourlife from a little bit different
(45:49):
perspective.
Success with external yes, notall, and you wouldn't imagine.
You wouldn't imagine the lifewhen you, connected to yourself.
You will create the love beyondyour imagination, like we did.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Right.
So, Nancy, I would like to saydeep thank you to be with me
today and I hope we can gettogether again, maybe in six
months, or maybe you even cometo Australia.
You come to my wellness centerand we can have the live you
know masterclass or somethingwith you here.
(46:31):
That would be really cool toserve people.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Right, thank you for having me All right, that's my
honor, thank you, thank you.
Thank you so much.
All right, this is my honor,thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Thank you so much.
All right, guys, I'm going toput a little music.
I have, let me see, my studiochanged a little bit and I am
having a little bit of troubleto find all the things.
Yep, just yeah, found itFinally.
All right, a little bit ofshort music and we're finishing
(47:04):
our lives.
Thank you so much, guys.
I'll be back next Wednesday at2 pm South Australian time zone,
possibly with another guest orsolo, it doesn't matter, we are
serving here, thank you.
Hello everyone, happy Wednesday.
You are on the Heart of Successshow and I'm your host, larisa
Vakulina.
I go live every Wednesday at 2pm, south Australian time zone
and here on this show I'msharing with you different tips,
tools, motivation, inspirationhow you can build your life with
(00:20):
holistic success and just passthrough all the hassles of the
conventional success and liveyour life with happiness,
fulfillment and joy.
Today I have a very, very, veryspecial guest for you.
You're going to be blown awayby this lady.
She is a distinguished lifestrategist.
(00:44):
She is a clarity messenger anda state-of-mind specialist with
over 26 years of experienceguiding individuals towards
holistic success.
So we are on the same page.
We're passionate about ourtopic.
So throughout her illustriouscareer, nancy has empowered over
(01:07):
10,000 clients, includingC-suite executives, mid-level
managers and business owners, tonavigate the intricate balance
between professional achievementand personal fulfillment.
So today we're going to reallychange your life.
We're going to share with you adifferent approach to success,
(01:34):
because most of the people arecaught up in running success
race and really forgetting aboutthat internal feeling of the
happiness and fulfillment.
So today, nancy is going toshare with you her own personal
experience of moving through thehardship and challenges of life
(01:57):
and also how.
Now she's guiding a lot ofsuccessful people to do the same
.
She's closing that gap betweenthat professional achievements
and the personal happiness.
So, nancy, can you please sharewith us what inspired you
(02:19):
behind your journey as a lifestrategist and state of mind
specialist?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
First and foremost, thank you for inviting me today.
It's my honor indeed.
Well, I've been there once upona time too.
I am just like many of usdescribed ourselves as a high
performing professional.
All right, or high achievers.
That means we go for our goals.
You know, we set a goal andthen we stay on the path and
(02:50):
whatever it takes for us, we getthere.
That is great, right.
It is important that we stretchour potential and fulfill our
heart desires.
However, sometimes we becometoo focused that you know what I
always call it, like a horsewearing blinkers, so you don't
(03:12):
see anything else so-calledexcept in front of you.
While it sounds all good beingfocused, but being a human, it
is way more than just fulfillingthat goals, because it is not
linear, it is not a straightline, it is not, like you know,
(03:32):
producing a mark.
It's not straightforward likethat, right?
Okay, so we have our spiritualself.
We have many different rolesthat we play, right, and so
often this may be overlooked oreven altogether not even
(03:53):
entertained.
When that happens, all right,that we are so focused on only
one thing, or fairly much onething, other aspects of our life
will fall to the sideways.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yes, and one of the things that can fall to the
sideways is our health.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yes, I know too well about it.
Nancy, tell me more.
I mean, I've been there myselfin a very, very deep illness
crisis and all the other crises,so I know exactly what you're
talking about.
But I think we really need toshare with other people because
some of successful, reallysuccessful people they are still
(04:38):
running that race and theydon't really see that yet and I
don't want them to see it.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So we are here to share with them that painful
state yeah, technically speaking, unless somebody is born with a
health ailment, all right.
For example, somebody born witha hole in the heart, born with
some kind of you know, rare, youknow kind of disease know, rare
(05:05):
, you know kind of disease allright, unless, unless somebody's
born with that.
If we are not born with anyhealth ailments, I personally
believe and it's not a personalbelief, although I express it
that way it is a fact that we,our body, is born robust, strong
.
Yeah, keep us going for a longtime.
(05:28):
But, the big.
But when our life is not goingthe ideal way, all right, then
something will give way.
How does that happen?
In the most simplisticunderstanding, right, our brain
produces natural chemical.
(05:49):
So how does this naturalchemical comes about?
Whether it's good chemical orbad chemical is from the way we
think and from the way we think.
Way we think and from the waywe think, then it goes into the
way we feel.
So, in the most simplisticunderstanding feel good good
(06:11):
chemical, feel bad, bad chemical.
Therefore, when our brainproduces good chemical, we are
really robust and born to lastand we are healthy, good to go
at any one time.
But when our brain start toproduce bad chemicals, then you
will attack our organs, oursystems.
(06:33):
And perhaps you know our newcells.
We always have new cells growth, obviously, you know, granted
at a different period of time,that the new cells grow may not
be such ideal cells, so not goodcells.
So, therefore, accumulation ofnot so good cells can then
become cancerous cells, the mostsimplistic thing to understand
(06:59):
that.
So therefore, our health can betaken a toll.
And then, of course, course,relationship with our family or
friends, or even with oneself.
Right, what a typical thing thata lot of these high achievers,
high performing professionals,all right, they actually have
all the success, understand,okay, call it.
(07:21):
Yeah, the power, the title, the, the money, everything all
right that they have, but yetthey feel the void, the
emptiness.
They cannot even put theirfinger down as what it is,
because if they're going tostart talking about it, then it
(07:41):
sounds they are very ungrateful.
You know what I mean.
You've got everything.
What are you complaining?
Right, but it is still real.
They are not feeling goodwithin Emptiness and they wake
up to, okay, sure, you know thecrazy rat race and go, go, go go
, but at the end of the day, forwhat Wealth is important?
(08:06):
Sure, all right, I've never notsaid important, but that can't
be the only thing.
But after you have built yourwealth, adding another zero does
not make a person happier.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
No, that's it.
This is the paradox we live in,right, and that's what's really
happening everywhere.
Where we're still living inthis space of competing, we want
to climb that ladder and justwant to achieve all these ticks.
We put ticks for the roles andpositions and how much money we
(08:43):
earn and things.
It's like for me.
I lived it.
I always felt something ismissing, but I never paid
attention to it.
I actually turned away from itand that's then accumulated into
huge blow up, right.
So I really would like to hearyour story, Like you seems like,
(09:04):
not only through education.
Get into that point, right, youhave your own story behind.
How did you understand it all?
How did you awake and had theawareness of that?
You know I need to look atthese areas beyond my success.
I just need to really look atthat.
(09:26):
Can you share that with usplease?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'm glad it started early for me.
All right, as I mentioned, youknow, I'm one of those high
performers, right?
How are those high achievers?
So, at a very young age, aslike 25, 26, I already have
achieved success as that youngperson.
But then there was a hell scare.
(09:50):
There was a hell scare, allright, at somewhere I think 26
or 27, thereabout, okay, a cystwas discovered and I went nine
years because I don't even havea pimple on my face as a
teenager.
How can I resist?
Yes, this is in my womb, andthat's funny for a young person.
(10:14):
All right, that was so long agowe are talking about 30 odd
years ago and, um, so I was likein a denier, right?
So when I was in, I was inierfor two years.
Then, after two years, I said,hey, you know, let me not muck
around.
I went for second checkup andby then it has grown.
The disease has grown so huge,so huge, yeah, Like the biggest
(10:40):
abalone you can find inAustralia.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, we found the in Australia.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, we found a second one.
Wow, yes, exactly, feel goodgood chemical.
Feel bad, bad chemical.
And I recalled at a time I'malways angry, I'm always pissed
off because you know how we got,we want to get things done and
that kind of thing.
So obviously my brain producescortisol.
So you know, no wonder that'sgrowth, okay.
(11:11):
So thank goodness it was notcancerous, because at that point
they said they cannot, it's notso advanced, so they are not
able to tell if it's cancerousor not.
They have to, you know, removeit.
Then they have to diagnose it,but in the midst of removing it,
you know, if they find it iscancerous, they have to remove
my entire womb.
Now, at 27, you don't want tohear that.
You know what I mean.
(11:31):
Well, thank goodness it wascancerous and then it was good.
You know it was benign and uh,that was my wake-up call.
Yeah, so, uh, that's why I saidI'm glad it.
You know it came early for me,at 28, and therefore that
changed my path, that I becamespiritual, and spiritual is not
(11:54):
religious.
It's not about religion, allright, it's about the energy,
the universe.
You know it's going to be, youknow, much bigger than we know
here between our years?
Yes, absolutely More than oureducation.
And all that so that I took ona different path.
I still remember I went to Balia lot.
(12:14):
Oh, those days Bali wasdifferent.
You're talking about 35, 38years ago.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You know when the spiritual and in fact I became
even more successful after Ibecame spiritual, absolutely,
because that's how it works whenyou connect to this field, when
you feel the part of yourselfin the tapestry of the whole
creation, and then you actuallystart to honor yourself, like
(12:47):
you start to really get insideand say, okay, what do what do I
want in my life, how do I wantto leave it right?
And that's where they start toget more success.
Yeah, well, that's.
And then what's happened next?
Like you then, uh, you thenlook at writing book or how did
all of your um you know steppinginto the role of the powerful
(13:08):
strategist?
How did you start to do thelife, um you know, coaching or
life strategies for other people?
Is that happened back whenyou've been young or there was
some time?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
so the approach become different.
So it's not all about being somaterial, it's not no, in in
that so-called let's call it thetextbook way of success.
Yeah, but rather, like I saidin a more, not only just
holistic, but in the sense ofyour being okay, your well-being
is the core of it all.
(13:42):
Right, and then I always liketo believe that the universe
always here to provide andsupport you.
Just get to into this alignmentand it's not about being
self-centered or about me, me,me, me, me, me, me, but how can
I serve the greater good?
So when it happened that you'reserving the greater good, all
(14:08):
right.
I mean, more happens.
So many people have talkedabout it.
So until a person experiencesit themselves, right, like
yourself, Otherwise it's so hardto describe it in words.
I know Exactly.
So things are swooning planesand the whole approach is
different.
There are more meaning, thereare fulfillment.
(14:28):
So one of the things obviouslywe have to look at first what is
our life Purpose?
And life purpose A can't bejust to raise our Family.
It's our responsibility,anybody's responsible.
They have got family.
But it cannot be the lifepurpose.
Life purpose can't be.
It's our responsibility, allright, anybody's responsible.
They have got family, but itcannot be the life purpose.
Life purpose can't be, you know, being at the top of your game.
(14:51):
That cannot be a life purpose,right?
Yes, life purpose first has tocome from values, absolutely
your personal values, your corevalues, and then from the core
values right, what I call it,the activities you choose to do
so.
For example, I choose to be asinger.
I call it activity, but with mylife purpose, that I'm using,
(15:22):
then, this singing as a vehicleto expound my life purpose.
Or somebody could be anengineer, right?
Somebody could be a teacher,right?
So the activity is what wechoose, but there's no meaning,
it's just a role, if we don'thave the life purpose.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
That's it, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So that's how I do my work with that life purpose,
and that's still not enough.
After a life purpose and thenyou know how to expound it
through inverted comma theactivity, the vehicle you know,
call that then you got to go forthe greater good of what I call
the higher purpose.
Yeah, so when you're alignedwith all these three aspects of
(16:01):
it, all right, every day is rockand roll.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Absolutely.
It's like you're riding thewave.
Yes, absolutely.
It is all obvious right now,but still a lot of people are
still not seeing it, they're notfeeling it, they're not going
through this transformation.
They still cling to that oldparadigm of fearing to lose
(16:30):
whatever they already get, andthis is really like not serving
them.
It just stays as a barrier orthe hustle for them to actually
transform.
So how do you I mean I knowyou're working with the C-suite
executives and the high profilepeople and I found myself
because I work with the sametype of clients it is a little
(16:55):
harder for these people toactually accept that they are
missing something.
I was there myself.
I was missing something, but Icouldn't nail it.
I was there myself.
I was missing something, but Icouldn't nail it.
I couldn't really nail it whatit is and how.
Yet alone to go and find somehelp.
I didn't even.
I didn't really.
I thought that I'm weak if I goand look for help, and that's
(17:19):
what a lot of successful peopleperceive Like.
They think they're weak if theygo and ask for help.
How do you um navigate thistype of things usually?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
just everything else.
Okay, it's kind of interesting.
Prevention is better than cure.
But most times it's not a caseAll right, it's only when the
person have the pain the paincould come from.
Example, anxiety attack,anxiety, panic attack.
Right, the stress becomes sointense, right, they're having
(17:56):
this heart palpitation.
They're going to the A&E often,but yet the doctor says nothing
wrong with you.
Okay, but they're getting allthis of ailments or they suffer
from insomnia, eczema,hypertension, so something has
to be, something has to be nogood.
First that happened.
Then you say, okay, now I seekhelp, something has to be no
(18:18):
good.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
First that happened, then it's like okay, now I seek
help.
That's exactly how.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
So that's where they will come to me and obviously
you know I would deep dive.
The first thing we ought to dois to know the root cause, not
the superficial thing.
All right, of course, all of uscomes from different background
(18:42):
, but nevertheless, uh, it'suniversal that the root cause
often comes from our childhood.
Not as an adult, okay, unlessit's some kind of trauma that
happened, okay, uh, near-deathexperience, that kind of trauma,
you know, some sort.
But otherwise the root cause isalways coming from childhood.
And I'm not trying to imply thata child has to be bad or
(19:05):
violent not necessary, notnecessarily that way but because
as a child, uh, our, we are notdeveloped yet to analyze.
So therefore, whatever that weexperience from the outside,
some of things may have strongerenergy than others.
Of course, in this case it'snot the positive energy and has
(19:29):
an impact on the child'svibration.
So, vibrationally, the childtakes that in.
I call that.
It becomes a chip, chip, a chip.
So of course, life goes on andyou just go about in life until
something happened, it sort oftriggered something happened as
(19:50):
an adult, it triggered that chip, it triggered that root cause
and, if anything else, as humanbeing, of course we are all
human being, but I often tell myclients I said we are a
spiritual being having a humanexperience.
We are not a human on MotherEarth to fulfill whatever we are
(20:13):
supposed to fulfill here.
all right.
So therefore, having the humanexperience is good.
However, that child does notknow better because it's not,
you know, made to analyze yet.
(20:34):
So when I deep dive into theroot cause, therefore the root
cause, when the subconsciousmind and the conscious mind
so-called know where that comesfrom, 50, 60% of it is kind of
ah, yes, it's aha moment,exactly the aha moment, all
right.
So, for example, what a typicalthing is?
(20:56):
All I'd like to believe is allhumans, we are programmed fear.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yes, fear yes.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Like I said, you know you look at animals when they
give birth.
They just give birth sonaturally and quiet.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yes, Quiet, peaceful, gave birth so naturally and and
quiet yes, quiet, peaceful,only human is like such a trauma
.
It's.
It's a trauma for the motherand it's a trauma for the child
and then all this, uh, traumaticexperience plays such a vital
role in developing all of theselimitations, the fears, the
(21:36):
doubts, the things.
It's like it takes all life tounravel all of these things,
unless you guys meet, nancy, orme by the way, name here is not
mine.
I noticed it's my son's namethere, but that's okay, nancy,
you continue to talk and tell mehow can professionals identify
(22:01):
and overcome feelings ofstagnation or burnout in their
careers.
This is really verycontroversial for many people
because a lot of people don'tknow how to identify if they are
burnt out or they depressed orthey, you know, having this
overwhelming feelings.
They, you know, most of thepeople just are really confused
(22:25):
about um, this, this state, andthey just drag it forever,
hoping that it's going to goaway by itself, but it never
does.
So how you um look at this andhow do you, you know, recommend
and what you do with you know,sure as I mentioned early on.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Right, often, right, I get into the root cause and
then it is coming from thatchild, all right, so so all this
burnout and all this is alsocoming from that root cause.
If you think about the workthat we do, right, we do the
work that we know how to do.
We are not doing work that wedon't know how to do right, Just
(23:06):
like somebody have got say fearof public speaking, or suddenly
go into a panic mode.
They're saying things, they'respeaking on subjects that they
know about.
They can't possibly talk on asubject they don't know about
right.
So how is it suddenly?
You know there could be a pointthat they just suddenly freeze,
or they feel uncomfortable, orthey become tense, or the
workload is so much you knowthey get burnout Because, think
(23:31):
about it, how do you eat anelephant?
Correct, we know, know that.
So what is there to be sooverwhelmed about?
So the overwhelming is notconscious, it's subconscious
it's subconscious.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I know that's the.
That's the reason we cannotaccess it.
It seems like we cannot, but itactually sits on the edge.
If we only have the intentionto do to have this work, we we
can actually access it quiteeasily.
I'm trying to work out all mydisplay here, but, nancy, stay
with me.
I'm so sorry.
(24:07):
This is the name of my son herefor some reason.
So I'm not sure why, uh, andwhy it is a my colors, but I
cannot really work out the name.
Anyway, it doesn't matter, myaudience knows me and they will
recognize.
(24:27):
But the son was doing his ownrecording in my studio and
changed the name and I didn'tnotice it anyway.
So, yes, we, we we're talkingabout really, really deep issues
and we talk about the core rootof of all the conflicts, of all
(24:48):
the you know suffering, of allthe pains of uh, all the uh push
and pull like we.
We almost like going throughthe some sort of uh sickness of
the barrier and we're pushingand pulling so hard.
I don't believe that people arecreated to do this.
(25:08):
We create to enjoy our livesand actually receive what the
universe is bringing to us in avery relaxed state, right, right
, so I know you've been in yourwork.
You pay a lot of attention to,you know boundaries, setting the
(25:28):
self-care and the work-lifebalance, and this is something
that people know a lot.
They talk about it.
It's stylish to talk about allof these things, but do we
really embody these practices?
How do you?
What is your approach about it?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
One thing that we all ought to do, especially as we
aged.
The only thing that we can do Imean, all of us, face is right
is getting older.
Nobody gets younger, so it'snot a negative thing, all right,
it is a positive thing.
I love getting older, so in anycase, the one thing that I do
often and I coach my clients andwhether you know one-on-one or
(26:11):
my group coaching I say the onething that we must do regularly
is introspection,self-reflection.
All right, I do quickself-reflection every night,
just a quick one, like what didI do today?
Okay, for example, tonight I'mgoing to think about okay, you
(26:31):
know, with Larissa I just gothrough very quickly, all right.
And to do that, you know, justgoing through my day is just to
have a check.
If there's something I need todo, some correction.
I don't want to wait for daysand weeks because you'll be
forgotten Some correction andthen.
So therefore, the next dayyou'll become better.
(26:52):
Then, on a regular basiswhether it could be a weekly or
monthly, depending on theperson's schedule then do
self-reflection with your lifepurpose.
Are you on track?
Are you off track?
you know how some of us get sobusy, busy and then we just get
off track yes, yes yes, right,and sometimes maybe we have a
(27:16):
family member that is not wellor get caught up with some
events, and then we just get youknow, you know, just just go
astray, so-called so, on afairly regular, whether weekly
or monthly, right, go check um,do a self reflection.
All right, that, yes, are youstill on a path with your life
(27:36):
purpose?
All right, that's somethingthat you got away from it, or
that's something that you haveadded to it?
Or some adjustments, someamendments, because life is
dynamic, it's not static.
Yeah, we don't have to wait forthe year, and that set goes for
next year.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, that's how the common thing is Like let's have
the new year resolution.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
You don't have to wait again.
It should be a regular basisand of course we can.
I mean, like tonight, in fact,not even tonight.
Already about two weeks ago,with my group, we restarted our
goal setting for 2025.
But then I'm looking at likethe breakthrough.
Don't do the same thing, youknow, increase the numbers or
whatever, but what's thebreakthrough that you want?
(28:24):
So you need a life purpose, ahigher purpose, but what's the
breakthrough?
What's your next?
And next is not just aboutmaking the big bucks.
I mean, if you want to go ahead, that's fine, you know, but it
got to be a more holistic, amore comprehensive and again, I
always like to believe that, youknow, is that to serve others.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
So, like my life purpose, you know, is to serve
with love and truth.
So empower others to live theirlife meaningfully, purposefully
and in fulfillment.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Absolutely yes.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
That's what I do.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
It's beautiful.
It's beautiful when we actuallytransform this energetic
construct behind, like racingafter success, or we're serving
to achieve success with otherstogether and serve them to
(29:29):
achieve their success.
See the difference, theenergetic difference from just
racing and doing and actuallyserving.
So it's a really two differentenergetic background behind this
concept, because they don'tunderstand the energetic basis
(30:02):
behind their actions and behindthe materialistic expression,
right?
So, yeah, fantastic.
I love that, because thisreally is something that we're
moving all together.
The transformation has alreadystarted.
We all need to really payattention to it because, if you
will be staying behind, well,the world is moving.
(30:26):
A lot of awakened people,leaders, successful people
moving forward withunderstanding the self better,
to tap into this inner geniusand start express it in a true
sense of it with open heart,right?
So now I would like to reallyask you about practical tools,
(30:47):
because we talk about more aboutgeneral concept and how the
tendency of current world, whereit's moving and how we
understand these concepts andthings.
But let's move into thepractical tips and tools and
maybe methods, whatever you haveto share with audience and also
(31:10):
maybe you want to invite theminto your, you know whatever on
offer.
I know you have books.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Here I'm going to share Nancy's website.
Go there, there's heaps ofvaluable things.
You can just see books there.
You can see programs andworkshops and things, and she's
amazing.
There you can see programs andworkshops and things, and she's
(31:40):
amazing.
Uh, just go and check it upbecause you're really gonna be
so, um, surprised how, how she'sapproaching it all and how she
can, in a simple terms, toexplain to you how you can
create holistic success.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Thank you.
Yeah, as I said earlier on,first is the introspection, all
right, so it's theself-reflection.
Okay, you want that.
That's already a very practicaltool.
And then next, all right, youneed self-care.
My self-care is number one,it's above everything else,
because I said if I'm no good,I'm no good for anybody, of
(32:20):
course, yeah.
Else, because I said if I'm nogood, I'm no good for anybody.
Yeah, so I know why.
Yes, we talk about servingothers and being with others,
but we got to be good, so we gotto be good as our self-care all
right, and self-care, obviouslyvery basic things, but critical
.
It's like you know we alreadyknow what is what diet is.
We don't have to go for aspecial diet, but we really know
what's not good for us.
Don't go there, right, knowingthat sugar is not good.
(32:43):
Why go there, right, even dothat?
You know what I mean.
We don't need to be a healthfanatic, but this is you just
jolly.
I know what's not good, right?
We know we need to exercise twovery basic and you but critical
, and you cannot remove thisaway from the body, because the
(33:04):
physical body is the vehiclethat allow us to fulfill what we
want.
It's just like we want to gofrom point a to point B, we need
a vehicle, otherwise we can'tget there.
So our physical body is ourvehicle.
So, of course, the self-carebesides the food intake and the
(33:26):
exercise is here.
What are you thinking aboutmost times?
And it's not about positivethinking, negative thinking.
Are your thoughts serving youMost times?
And it's not about positivethinking, negative thinking.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Are your thoughts serving?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
you Okay?
Are your thoughts not servingyou Okay?
Or are you getting too seriouswith random thoughts that are
just random anyway?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
It's like a clutter it comes and goes, comes and
goes.
But we can train our mind as wetrain.
Dogs, like in the mind can betrained right.
So then we can.
We can start to reallytransform this cluttered
thinking into much more positive, intentional, how you want to
(34:13):
see your life, and that you cando it with your mind.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, I just had a client last night, all right, so
he's quite a high position inthe bank.
And then he says I've got mixedfeelings today.
You know he walked in.
I've got mixed feelings today.
I said, ok, tell me about yourmixed feeling.
He says, on one hand, I'm verypleased with myself that I
cracked through some stuff.
That is tough right, becausehe's into this high net worth
(34:41):
credit borrowing, you know stufflike that.
Okay, so he has to crack this.
But he got so pissed off withhis boss.
Okay, although he's got hishigh up there, he still have a
boss, all right, that wants himto do X, y, z instead of A, b, c
and da, da, da, all that.
So he got really pissed offthat.
Why are they expecting?
(35:02):
How can a leader behave thisway?
And he went on and on about itand I just sat there.
I was very calm just looking athim, just waiting for him to
finish.
And then, when he's done, Isaid he got careless.
And he looked at me what yougot personal?
Again, he got careless as hebecame personal with his boss.
(35:26):
You think your boss is tryingto be funny with you?
He's just doing what he'ssupposed to do.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
So he's thinking all right, it's like the boss is
just trying to be funny with himmaking life difficult for him.
You got my point, so just whatI mean is your thoughts serving
you?
Yes, so where did that comefrom?
Again, childhood, childhood.
His parents were busy working,so he created a narrative in his
(36:02):
head that his parents just didnot.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Don't love him, don't you know?
That's what parents always do.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, did not care enough.
They care for their businessmore than they care for me.
So he created a narrative.
So, although nothing badhappened in his childhood, but
he created it as a child, sowhen he grew up as an adult,
it's very easy for him to becomepersonal with anything.
Even when he drives on the roadand somebody cut his lane, he
get personal.
It's as if that driver istrying to be funny with him.
(36:32):
This is just how this persondrives.
I'm not saying he's good, butthen you know he gets personal.
So when I managed to like checkin with his thoughts.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
They went like oh yeah, yeah, it's like nothing.
I mean, where are we put ourenergy into just whinging and,
uh, you know, resenting andblaming and things.
It's so much energy instead ofyou know what.
That's okay, he's doing his ownthings.
I'm going to do my thingsbetter and I'm going to do my
(37:06):
thing, that's all.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
You see, all of our feelings is coming from thoughts
created in the moment, thoughtscreated in the moment.
So if we don't pay attention tosome of these thoughts that are
not relevant, you go away, orwe change the certain thoughts.
That which I did with him, allright.
Then he said oh yeah, I justgot personal.
Actually, you know, felt sopeaceful, and he texted me after
(37:32):
that, when he left, he says mygoodness, I was singing while I
was walking by a car.
Yes, you see, just that shiftitself, you can call that
already a transformation.
Yeah, so these are the stuffthey do.
And, of course, the next thingis integration.
One has to integrate personalsatisfaction, or personal
(37:56):
fulfillment, with professionalsuccess.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
All right If you find that your professional success
is really not giving you any joy, for whatever reason.
Okay, I don't get personalanybody here.
All right, really, that's notall right.
Even how you change yourthoughts and all that's not,
then it means there's noalignment time to change that.
There's always somethingsomewhere.
(38:21):
I mean, I always say it's neverenough.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
That was my next question, like what are some key
signs that indicate it might betime for career pivot or
transition?
Is this something that you alsocan see in clients, Because
sometimes people just put somuch struggling in their roles?
Yes, but they just the thoughtdidn't come to their mind to
(38:46):
start to look at maybe changing,because the fear of change is
another thing, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
So you see, I would say it's not about the job match
, I'm sorry.
It's not about a jobdescription, sorry.
It's not about a jobdescription.
It's about a job descriptionSorry.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
It's not about a job description.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
It's about a job match, yeah, okay.
So the match, uh uh, theculture, all right, but it your
values, your value and the youknow organization values, right.
The whole attitude, right.
All that has to have a match.
There must be a certainalignment.
Sure, we are all different inour own way, but there must be a
(39:25):
certain kind of alignment.
But if there's no alignment andthe gap is so huge, then it's
really you have to lookelsewhere, because it's only
going to make you sick, it's notgoing to get better.
The gap is going to get wider,wider, wider, wider, wider.
It's not going to get better.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
The gap is going to get wider wider, wider, wider,
wider.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
It's not going to get better.
Yeah.
So then of course, we all haveour skills right.
Look into your skills, lookinto you know what's your next.
We don't always have to do thesame thing.
I mean, I was just telling himto.
You know the other thing I wasalso moving.
My client was like you know, tothe next level, uh, and I said
he says I've been doing this forso long, right?
I said yes, it's good to bevertical, right depth, but we
(40:07):
can also be vertical and pivot.
That's it.
Yes, for example, I've been anational swimmer, right, I swim
for the country and, you know,maybe I'm even an Olympic
swimmer.
Okay, I won the Olympic gold.
It doesn't mean I'm even anOlympic swimmer.
I won the Olympic gold.
It doesn't mean I have to be aswimmer all my life, right, yes,
with my technique and my skillsas a swimmer, how can I pivot?
(40:31):
I'm not necessarily, now I godo and become an F&B
entrepreneur.
No, all right, but it's stillthe same thing.
How can I pivot, bringing thewealth, you know, of the
experiences and the skills andall of that?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
So I think, a lot of people Utilizing all the
resources of the past, but pivotin bringing all of this
goodness and goodness and allthe experiences into something
new.
It's such an adventure, thelife is such an adventure, and
why don't we just play?
(41:11):
I mean, this is reallysomething, and especially
successful people.
They actually can affordthemselves to play and see how
much they can enrich their liveswith just being a little bit
more open To say, okay,everything is possible.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yes, You're right, it's really about being open.
So a lot of them will just dragtheir feet until retirement.
No, wait till retirement.
You know, I mean I don't know'tknow, you know what I mean.
So again, you know, it's justreally knowing how to pivot.
Yeah, that that would be nice.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
wow, that that was really really good um discussion
here.
And you see, guys, nancy, she'sso knowledgeable, she is having
these unique skills to actuallygo deeper into your psychology,
into your spiritual being, intoyour um.
You know skills that are hereon the surface and she can
(42:14):
actually see through it and shecan start to to really guide you
through all of these littleblocks and things that you may
not even imagine that they exist.
So you have your focus, likeyou said.
I like that.
You know comparison with ahorse.
But really go to Nancy'swebsite, check it out.
(42:40):
She's got beautiful video there.
I was in love with this video.
It really, in one minute, givea absolute clarity of what nancy
is doing and what she's capableof.
And uh, that's, that's justbrilliant um, internationally
recognized woman that workedwith high-profile achievers,
(43:04):
with the performance andperformance people, and she
really fixed them.
So if you guys thinking thatit's time for you to start to
look at your life and start toreally pivot or have some sort
of guidance and support, well,nancy is your first stop, or
(43:25):
maybe me.
We're both here to help you torecognize that success is not
only money, roles, positions andall the external symbols of the
success, it's more thatinternal state of feeling and
(43:46):
being, because, for me, anywhereI go, I take my holistic
success with me, I'm always atpeace, I'm joyful, I'm happy
anywhere I go, without beingdependent on what's happening
externally from me.
And I can see Nancy is the same, because she already achieved
(44:08):
that success inside.
She connected to her coreessence, and that's what we need
to learn from these people.
We are, of course, surrounded bymany, many coaches and mentors,
and you name it.
There's so many experts rightnow, but what I believe is that
(44:30):
we only can help the otherperson to the extent and
deepness of what we helpedourselves.
Right, if we have the combinedour formal educations, but, uh,
the experience.
This is really something thatis very, very valuable.
So, nancy, maybe we just have alast question.
(44:52):
Uh, you have your um, yourlinkedin uh account and you have
your other accounts, I thinkI'm not sure.
So you have your books sold atyour website or somewhere else
Amazon.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah, my book Love Rain Night is my first book, and
then this is Success Redefinedwith Jack Canfield.
Yeah, so you can go to LinkedIn.
You just find Nancy Ho,Singapore.
You'll be able to find me yeah,right, yeah, it's easy.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yes, that's really, that's really really good.
So so, guys, really I'm sohappy Nancy have been with us
today live.
I know probably not a lot ofaudience in the live, but this
is now forever.
It's going to be on my youtubechannel.
Nancy probably will put on herssomewhere else.
So please, um, look at yourlife from a little bit different
(45:49):
perspective.
Success with external yes, notall, and you wouldn't imagine.
You wouldn't imagine the lifewhen you, connected to yourself.
You will create the love beyondyour imagination, like we did.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Right.
So, Nancy, I would like to saydeep thank you to be with me
today and I hope we can gettogether again, maybe in six
months, or maybe you even cometo Australia.
You come to my wellness centerand we can have the live you
know masterclass or somethingwith you here.
(46:31):
That would be really cool toserve people.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Right, thank you for having me All right, that's my
honor, thank you, thank you.
Thank you so much.
All right, this is my honor,thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Thank you so much.
All right, guys, I'm going toput a little music.
I have, let me see, my studiochanged a little bit and I am
having a little bit of troubleto find all the things.
Yep, just yeah, found itFinally.
All right, a little bit ofshort music and we're finishing
(47:04):
our lives.
Thank you so much, guys.
I'll be back next Wednesday at2 pm South Australian time zone,
possibly with another guest orsolo, it doesn't matter, we are
serving here, thank you.
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Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.