Episode 34-Survival of the Fittest: Tactics for a Zombie Apocalypse

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's going on?
Welcome to another podcast.
So initially we're supposed tohave some video along with our
last two podcasts, but we'redealing with some technical
difficulties and we will havesome videos soon.
But until then, dive into thispodcast conversation as we talk
about surviving the zombieapocalypse.

(00:23):
Do you have what it takes?
Find out, key the machine out.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Oh, all right, we're fucking live.
We're fucking live, kiers.
Well sweet.
Should we explain last week atall or not Go for it, okay?
So yeah, we last week wassupposed to be our first episode
with video accompanied by itand due to some technical
difficulties aka we were notsmart enough to plug in the
camera- beforehand andoverestimated the battery life.

(01:08):
Yeah, man, yeah, we kind offucked it up pretty hard, so
this will be, hopefully, ourfirst episode was video, so you
guys can see our sexy mugs.
Yeah, you're on the screen.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Eventually we'll, we'll get guests and have some
guests on here.
That'd be pretty dynamic,absolutely.
Yeah, because you guys don'tsee it, but I still a little bit
cluttery in this spot and then,once we get that all squared
away, you know we should have apretty legit setup and all that
happy, professional,professional quality, because

(01:38):
only the best.
But, let's be honest, because Ithink you see so many podcasts
now and I think that a lot ofones that are actually doing
good, like I noticed a lot ofthem they just don't put a ton
of effort.
Yeah, and like, which is maybethat's the thing now.
Like maybe people kind of wantmore of a raw experience.

(02:01):
Now, like, I was just reading anarticle about how I think
people are kind of starting toget sick of social media, you
know, because, like, when youget onto Instagram, it's almost
you, it's.
It's mostly like ads, targetedads, stuff that is made by, like

(02:23):
influencers and there's almostnothing personal about it
anymore.
So they're saying that group,group, like group messaging and
like private groups and hangoutsare becoming the thing, because
then that way you can justdirectly interact with the
people you actually want to.
Yeah, you don't have to look atall the bullshit.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
There's so much bullshit.
I do like the personalized feedso because I just get a mixture
of like really fucked up memeslike fatal car crashes, like
just get all kinds of like solidshit that pops up a month and
those are like you know let'ssee what kind of car crash it
got today.
It's like a fucking live leaksfeed man.
It's fucking wild.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
But you know it's crazy about.
Instagram is like the most.
If you accidentally click onsomething, it's like okay, good
luck, because now your feed'sgoing to be like no sure, the
algorithm is like oh, this guymust like when fucking puppies
get attacked by you know what Imean Like suddenly my feed is
just dominated by animalskilling everything.

(03:22):
Like, yeah, what the fuck.
And then like people doing thedumbest shit and there's
basically porn on Instagram.
I'm like, yeah, what the?

Speaker 2 (03:31):
fuck, there's a lot of advertisements for I guess I
guess like and now are youseeing this?

Speaker 1 (03:35):
like these AI images are trying to pass off as like
real people.
I don't know, man, it's notreal and people are still
interacting with them as ifthey're like real or something
you know.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
I don't know, man AI.
I mean I don't want to get intothat because we still have a
whole subject matter.
Oh shit, it's kind of the audioreplication of you, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I was just watching.
I was watching a little shorttoday of Biden and Trump having
like a conversation.
Yeah, I think it's fuckinghilarious and they were like
just making dumb jokes.
But it was hilarious.
Shut the fuck up.
No, the one of them what.
Trump tells him a joke.
He's like why did the?

(04:16):
Why did the Mexican push hiswife off the bridge?
He's like I don't know.
He's like tequila, you knowwhat I mean.
Like Joe Biden's, like that'sracist.
But it's also kind of like yeah, yeah, but it sounds weird
because he's not mum, like he'sfucking cool here.
And who's that old fuck, thatold fuck Republican who keeps?

(04:36):
Who keeps like having a goddamnseizure?
Hmm, I know who?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I can think of his name he's freezing.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, he's at South Carolina, right?
Oh, I cannot remember his name.
God damn it, man.
No, mitch, mitch McConnell.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
That's all I was gonna say about it.
What'd be wrong?
Okay?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Okay, Mitch McConnell , yeah, he had another episode
where he was just like he justheard like to.
These are the fucking peoplerunning our country.
Man, that is terrifying.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
That's the motherfucker had to strap.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Reboot man, you're like the windows down every,
every politician that has, likenuclear codes and they're making
these major decisions.
They're like they're fucking,they're probably wearing diapers
Right, they're forgetting shit.
And you're like and dude,you're, you're running this.
What now?
Like get the fuck out of here,let's get some vitality back

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into, like I don't know thiscountry.
It's just old and decaying andit's like the politicians are
literally representing what'shappening with the country.
It's like just rotting and justdecrepit and you might as well
we might as well get ready toget pumped with formaldehyde or
something.
Jesus man, I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I'm full.
Hey man ain't no man, it's agood shit right there, right,
yeah, yeah, I agree with.
Obviously, you want to havewisdom, specifically associated
with wisdom, and like having.
I wouldn't want like a 30 yearold running the country but at
the same time like 80s is no, Idon't want a 30 year old run in
the country.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
I think, I think 50s.
Yeah, man, you got wisdom 50 60,something like that, but I
think once you'd be like, Ithink like 75, that's where
you're like, all right, you canretire now.
Yeah, I'm going to go away.
Yeah, like, unless they're atotal badass, they take care of
themselves, because that's theother thing is like none of

(06:29):
these politicians are healthyLike Robert Kennedy is like the
only one who's fucking jacked.
Have you seen him, robertKennedy Jr?
No, bro, is jacked Really.
Yes, like, has muscle, hasdefinition, has abs, like
incline pressing, likeimpressive weight for his age,
because I want to say he's inhis late 60s, early 70s dudes.

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So that is the exception.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's like they should almost make him pass up a PT
test or something Like bro, ifyou cannot walk five, can you
imagine like like Biden Trumptrying to do fucking like
jumping jacks or mad and Trump?

Speaker 1 (07:06):
doing anything.
Just like you ever seen golf.
He's like a bag of like fuckingsweat, Just.
He's like pasty skin and he'sall like lumpy and fucking.
He's got like surrounded bybaby fat, you know.
Yeah, like he's like he neverdeveloped.
Dude, I've got bunions, I'vegot what.

(07:27):
Do you think why he has thefunniest excuses to why he
doesn't join the military?
What was it like?
He had like bones first.
That's what was bones first,Dude bones first.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I did see a really funny video.
It was actually when he wasgolfing.
It was a long time ago, butthere was this.
These guys, I guess, were thereon the golf course with them.
They were looking down, he waslike carrying his clubs, or he
was carrying a club and theyseen him holding a beer at the
time.
Yeah, and they're like Mr Trump, is that a tall boy?
He's like it's a.
It's a meek little bullshit.

(08:00):
It's like water.
I didn't even think he drank.
I mean look at his.
I mean look at his gut man.
I mean it's probably a littlebit pretty sure he lies about
that.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, I mean they all do.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
man who doesn't enjoy drinking while golfing?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
It does seem to be kind of go hand in hand.
Yeah, I'm not much of a golfer,but I mean, every time any of my
buddies tell me about golfingit's like, yeah, we were fucking
loaded, I guess man, I don't, Idon't golf, I'm not into it,
but I also I'm not good at itbecause I've never want, like I
don't give a fuck about gettingout.
Yeah, I would probably just godrive the car around and hang
out.
Yeah, that seems like it'd bepretty fun, but I'm like I kind

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of zero interest.
I'll do some pop putting.
I'll do some of that, but I'mcool and golf.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
You have to be absolutely just fucking like
demolished to enjoy a sport.
Is it worth playing?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, but then like look how angry these fucking
people get when they're playinggolf.
It's like that doesn't seemrelaxing at all, like I think
you're all taking it a littletoo seriously.
Oh my god, you've got that kindof aggression.
Just go do Jitsu man.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Get something out of it.
You know, dude, like fuckingthat skit on Jackass, where they
were like blowing the air hornon the golf court, she cracked
me up.
Jackass, classic, classic.
Should we should?
We say we should go in, okay.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
All right.
So we wanted this episode to befucking awesome, so fun.
We asked ourselves thisquestion how would we survive a
zombie apocalypse?
Right, like, what are you know?
Like, do you have a bug outback?

(09:42):
Do you have a game plan at all?
Do you have a game plan?
Right?
And because not only will thisbe applicable to the zombie
apocalypse, but, like I mean,some of the shit we're going to
say is going to be goofy,obviously, but we're also going
to have some little littlenuggets of of, maybe some wisdom
, yeah, applicable wisdom.
So I don't know, like zombies,I think for me it's like one of

(10:06):
the most fascinating things,right?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Because it's so good.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Well, it's terrifying .
So the one of the first zombiemovies I saw was Dawn of the
Dead.
So the original Dawn of theDead, yeah, oh for so I was.
No, no, no, no no.
George Romero Dawn of the Dead,like oh yeah, so I was probably
was a night of living dead, orwas that?
no, no, no, that's, that was thelike very first one.

(10:29):
Okay, go ahead.
Night of the living dead wasthe black and white, and then
they redid it in a color, dawnof the dead.
It was Dawn of the dead and Dayof the Dead, so Dawn of the
Dead, the original one is alsoin a mall and it also follows a
cop or a couple cops, but it'sit's a little different, but
okay.
So I first saw Dawn of the Deadand, like, my parents went out.

(10:51):
So I think I was home aloneBecause I was a, let me see, I
would have been.
Maybe, I don't know, I don'tgot it.
I don't remember how old it was.
I was not old, it's like 12 or13 or 14.
So, anyway, they go out and Istart watching Dawn of the Dead.
I make pizza rolls you know, ohshit, pizza rolls, bro.

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And like, within the first 10minutes, dude, guys head gets
blown off.
Like people are getting, like Iwas terrified.
I was like, what the fuck isthis?
And then I was fascinated withzombies ever since, like, and
you know, I guess in my head Ialways wonder like, dude, what

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would, what would we do?
What?
What society do?
Like fucking zombies were like,I mean, like, when you think
about it, like fucking, we know,we just went through this whole
pandemic, pandemic, whateveryou know.
And so you, you start thinkingabout like well, how did people
act during this pandemic?

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And we handled a great, couldyou imagine?
Well, I mean, okay, I actuallylike, do you think a lockdown?
Because that they would do thatin a zombie problem, that would
try to establish martial law,so some sort of right, so like a
lockdown, that'd be a problem,wouldn't it?
I feel like that'd be a bigproblem because most people

(12:16):
would probably stay, stay put,and I think that's mistake
number one.
Okay, right.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
So let's okay, let's, let's discuss, before we get
this absolutely balls deep intothe that, our game plans in the
zombie apocalypse itself.
Do it, let's lay down, let'slay on the parameters.
Okay, so we got all of this popculture.
I mean, the past 20 years havejust been littered with
different kinds of zombie moviesshows books comic books.
So are we talking 28 days later?

(12:44):
Sprinters, we talk and walkingdead chambers.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, so yeah, because we were talking about
this before for the pocket swear.
Like 28 days later, you onlyreally see the zombies a few
times, right 20 and 28 dayslater.
Like you see him in the churchscene, yeah, they keep the
mystery pretty.
Yeah, like throughout the wholeand then like towards the end,
obviously they don't overrunthat big mansion they're in.

(13:07):
So and then you go to 28 weekslater where they really focus on
the rage virus, you know, andfuck that.
First of all, I would not wantanything to do with a virus that
did that to people.
Jesus Christ, like for me, Ithink, the George Romero classic
zombie that you know, you seethroughout, like the night of

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living dead and even in like thefirst few seasons of the
walking dead where they'redecaying.
Because I think a purist willsay, like those 28 weeks later,
or I am well, I am legend,obviously we're in zombies.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
They're vampires, right yeah, they're vampires.
World wars these zombies weresprinters.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yes, yeah, and they were.
They could like climb shit.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
And so stack on each other's bodies like fucking yeah
, like I think that's terrifying, yeah, that makes it way more
terrifying, I think that wouldreduce our, our overall chances
of survivability down to evenslimmer margin, which there's
actually been multipleuniversities who have like
conducted studies and use actual, like epidemiology, like like

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stuff to literally calculate ifwe would survive, and most of
the time it's not very high.
I would believe that, yeah, andthey introduce a lot of
variables.
So I'm going to say right now,if you are in a high population,
densely urban, so like, yeah,area probably fucking dead, to
be honest with you, this veryit's funny, said I joke with my
brother.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
He lives down around Tampa Bay.
Yeah, and I'm like, dude, youbetter have some mad situational
awareness because, like he, if,if he got caught in a place
like Tampa during, so he'd be,yeah, he'd be, fucked, he, he
would never leave.
And like, look at where we'reat now, like we are in the prime

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spot, we really are far awayfrom city populations.
You've got a lot of like kindof insufferable rednecks with
guns.
You know, oh my God, not a badneighbor to have during the
zombie apocalypse, because itcould be bad with rating.
So, like I think you're right,like, if you're in a city center

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, if you're in an urban area, ifyou're in the suburbs, like I,
man, that's going to be a tough,tough go because, like, here's
the thing you will, even if it'snot a zombie apocalypse, it
probably doesn't hurt to have aplan.
Oh right, a plan of like, ifthere's a natural disaster, what

(15:32):
are we going to do?
We're going to bug out or, youknow, have like some bug out
bags and some extra fuel and youknow things in that nature have
escape routes and city plan andless congested roads.
Yeah, but like going back to thezombies.
I think me personally, if, if Ihad my perfect scenario, okay,

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they would definitely be thefucking slow.
Let's stick with the yeah, we'llstay with the walkers, yeah,
like no, because when you thinkabout the other kind, like the,
the, maybe they wouldn't bezombies proper, but they kind of
would be, because something'syou know like the rage virus,
right, they're being driven bysome kind of virus that makes
them violent.
They can't make some stronger,they can't really feel anything.

(16:16):
Right, you can also useconventional weapons to kill
them.
Right, you don't have to worryabout a headshot, you?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
can just put that's because there's technically
still a lot.
So obviously, yes, yes, they'regoing to have a very so, like,
I guess, when you're weighing.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
But the problem is right.
When you look at our society Ithink I think our society they
would obviously fucking fail atboth.
But think about how many peopleare out of shape and fat and
just fucking soft.
They would get annihilated by azombie that could run.
They fucking jump.
Did you watch Black Summer onNetflix?

(16:51):
I did not.
It's a great zombie show, butthose zombies are kind of
fucking crazy, like not the onesI'd want to be around, like
they can.
Yeah, they're, but it's areally good zombie show.
Right, that's another one.
So if all of you want to getdown on a good zombie show,
black Summer on Netflix isreally good.
Okay, I think they did.
I think they're on two seasonsand I'm not sure if they're

(17:11):
gonna do it again, but they'rereally good.
But my personal preference manis the slow zombies like dawn of
the dead, day of the dead,because so in those movies do
the one people who are alreadydead, do they rise like?

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I mean is cemetery, oh my.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
God, the classics, the classics.
No, no, they're, they're,they're already no.
So those ones, those are, likeall those other living dead
shows, like they're reanimated,they're popping up from the
grave.
You know what I mean.
I mean this is not that I thinkwe keep it more grounded in

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reality.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, I mean, obviously a virus is not gonna
reach something who's alreadylong dead, like necrotic tissue,
like there's no way, yeah, yeahlike I never understood that,
why they did that.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Like George Romero had the right idea.
He's like, look, it's an, it'slike a virus.
You get bit and you becomeinfected, right, and you can
then bite other people.
Like that makes sense.
Like that makes that's likeplausible, it makes sense.
You're like, okay, we're likeall that other shit, like
skeletons rising from the grave,and like, yeah, that's that's

(18:29):
like all right, come on, man.
Yeah, I mean, it's the voodooshit, right, right.
So, um, yeah, man, the GeorgeRomero, slow moving zombies.
Okay, for me that's gonna be it,because it's gonna be.
It's gonna be like you're gonnabe playing this game of numbers
, right, so, you know, I guessit'd be.

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It depend on where you'restarting out, because if you're
starting out in a city, man,like there's gonna be so many
fucking factors you're gonnahave to take in.
First of all, you're probablynot gonna be able to use a
vehicle because it's gonna becongested, yeah, and so while
you and so, while you're worriedand you're you're hemmed in
with this congestion, the virusis spreading.

(19:11):
You know, like, so, like thezombie land, the zombie land
zombies, right, they're like theGeorge Romero zombies.
Yeah, slow, you know, like,like that, but it's, it's gonna
spread super fast, because whenyou think about people like,
think about society now, howtolerant people are of just
fucking homeless, crazy peoplethat are borderline zombies

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already, and so imagine all ofthem just fucking coming at you
and just biting you and shit.
So I think if you're in a city,man like bicycles, bicycle,
have bikes, okay, dude, bikes,like think about it.
I think in a zombie apocalypse,you just you're not going to be
able to rely on things thatrequire systems.

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So fuel is going to be,especially for talking early
power outage.
Yeah, well, see, that's theinteresting about power is,
would, with the nuclear powerplants automatically shut down?
And I, I, I feel like I didresearch on this a while ago,
okay, and I think what wouldhappen is, I think a lot of
these power plants, even theolder ones, have fail safes to

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where, if they's no maintenanceis done on them, they just kind
of shut down.
I think that's quite a while.
So I don't think there would beany kind of nuclear meltdowns
like people would think.
Right, so let's assume thatthat not is not going to happen,
right, like, because God damn,I mean, if the particular plants

(20:40):
melt down, you might as well,just kiss your ass, goodbye.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, like the road, yeah, like the road.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, and like, even like humans are just beating
humans because it's like thatthere's no other food.
But I think most of the plantswould have a fail safe.
I have to think they've thoughtof that.
Like, okay, something crazyhappens.
So I think a bicycle, a goodmountain bike, yeah, that you
know it's got racks on it andit's funny, it sounds stupid,
but like it's reduced noise.

(21:06):
Yeah, dude, reduced noise, itcan get you far and you can.
You can pack it, pack it outwith supplies.
It doesn't require anything butmaybe some grease for the chain
, Basic tools, tire patch kit,in case.
You know, because, like I usedto mountain bike a lot and you
know we'd hit sharp rocks allthe time and just patch it up

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and boom, you're right back atit.
So, like you know, obviouslywant things to keep your bike
maintained.
But I think you would get outof a city much faster, like if
you had a bicycle, because you'dbe kind of unassuming, you know
everyone would be so focused ontrying to get their SUV out of
the fucking out of the, out ofthe road, you know, or or yeah,
it'd be fucking chaos, likechaos dude.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Okay, okay, one more parameter before we go Are we,
28 days later, really focuses onlike?
If you get a drop of blood onyou and like in your mouth or an
orifice, then you pass on theinfection that way.
Is it only a bite, or is itthat I think?

Speaker 1 (22:06):
the bite makes more sense Okay sure, so in that case
, I would say saliva.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
I'm not a big.
I would not be big into likemelee weapons.
I wouldn't ever want to tanglewith something that could right
up that close right.
But yes, blood spatter notinfecting me would increase the
likelihood of me maybe trying todo that.
I would prefer something thatcreates a distance, like a speed
or something along that nature,like I wouldn't want to handle

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hatchet.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
So if we're thinking classic zombie, you have to do a
headshot.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
But if we're thinking like the 28 week later, not
like you, just you can justshoot him however you want to
shoot him, the fucking heart man, so it's so long.
So I guess that is kind of thetrade off because, like, if you
can get affected by just theblood spatter from the 28 weeks
later fucking rage, viruszombies, then they, you
definitely would not want to bechopping them up with knives and
fucking you know swords andshit, that would be.

(23:00):
But what?
Like the classic zombies?
But see, didn't they startchanging that in the walking
dead, like later in the seasons?
Didn't they start?

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Like they've been using melee weapons to say one
there's no way, michelle.
Yeah, but fuck it.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
I thought one of the storylines became like they're
actually all infected.
They are yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
And then it's someone died without being bit and they
rose back as a zombie in theprison.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Is that my correct?
No, no, I mean like literallythe all the people that are
alive, yeah, also have the virus.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yes, that's, that's the case, oh yeah, okay, yeah,
yeah, so like yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
So I guess there'd be that, like they all actually.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Just it's some dormant fucking thing waiting on
you to die, or, yeah, from thefoot.
I think the water may beturning the frogs game.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Turning the frogs game.
Oh my god, with zombies.
Oh, that's terrifying to thinkabout.
Imagine if they have somewherehidden away a fucking vial of
zombie juice that they couldpour into the water.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
What do you think, man?

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I didn't read the book, but I saw the old school
TV series.
I'm sure, but the stand is like1200 pages man 1100 on the
bridge, it's about 1100.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
So I mean it does make you think that, like I mean
I'm.
Do you not wonder what themilitary has in those secret,
you know course, facilities?

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, like I do, I mean you know they've got some
shit down, but do you reallythink they've got some kind of
zombie?

Speaker 2 (24:32):
virus.
I think they have shit thatcould kill us all very fast.
I don't know about anything,but it's a zombie virus.
I think they could.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
I mean I think I'm well in the bet you they've got
a weaponized form rabies forhumans.
That would be extremely similar.
Yeah, so my hope with thatwould be like if somebody got
this human rabies, becausethat's essentially what 20 weeks
later is like it's a rabiesvirus moves really fast.
Yeah, but I guess I would wonderwhy.

(25:01):
I mean maybe because you don'tfeel any pain, so it would make
you stronger.
You know people on like PCP andlike hardcore drugs.
They just don't feel anything.
Yeah, I guess it'd be likedealing with that, yeah, like
Germans in World War Two anddoing that, yeah, but eventually
the body would crash.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah.
So I don't know, the methodscan go for a while if they stay,
if they don't, they can, butthey'll still, even they will
crash, yeah, you know like.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
So like I wonder, huh , I don't know.
I'm just thinking about zombiejuice in the water and like I'm
really glad I'm on a well.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Oh, absolutely, yeah, Well, water is definitely a
huge advantage, yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
But then again I mean , if your like trick goes out
and generator runs out of fuel,where are you going to be
standing?

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Oh well, here's the thing, before we go further, if
you are listening to this andyou don't have extra water
stocked up, you better fuckingget it.
You better like I'm on a well,yes, and I've got in that, my
spare bedroom.
I've got close to 30 gallons ofjust water, just in case, right
, you know, like lose power orthings go super crazy and I got

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a bug out or something, yes.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Well, you're already got.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
I hear, bro, I'm already bugged out.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah.
So actually I brought this bookalong because I read this one I
was younger and I fucking lovedit.
It's the zombie survival guideby Max Survival guide.
Yes, so good.
So I will say, with doing someresearch, and it wasn't
necessarily from this bookduring natural disasters there's
typically like a 24 hour, likegolden window of like people.
Actually, when stuff firsthappens, like earthquakes, stuff

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like that, like after like theinitial issue, there's typically
like a 24 hour window where youcan kind of like have some
flexibility that you need toeither pack the fuck up and go
or you need to hunker down whereyou're at and make sure you got
the supplies to go like rightthere.
Like obviously, bouncing to areally populated supermarket
when the shit hits the fan isnot a good idea, but there's

(26:53):
typically like you have a littlewindow where you can either
like get out without as muchcongestion before the shit
completely hits the fan, ormaybe gather a few supplies like
a mom and pop shop and stay putman.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Here's the thing that's.
You'd have to be really pluggedin, though, and the problem is
is society has always viewedpeople who are prepared as like
weird.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yep, you know what I mean.
The whole show about just likeexploiting preppers, like oh,
he's gotta say preppers.
I fucking love that show.
It's so bad, so good.
Somebody good idea.
A lot of people just like watchthat.
Just wow that person's fuckingstupid.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Granted, some of those people were legitimately
fucking and kind of wacko.
Yeah, I met one.
He lives in Missouri, reallycool guy, keith Ford.
Yeah, keith, what's up?
I don't know, he doesn't followme.
We're not connected anymore,but hello, keith.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
He was on the episode .

Speaker 1 (27:40):
His wife shot her first turkey with a bow and she
was like the sweetest lady.
So Keith is a army vet and Italked to him.
He's like I hate that they callme a prepper.
He's like I'm.
He's like I'm just prepared.
I'm not.
He doesn't ever considerhimself a prepper.
He's like he writes.

(28:00):
He writes for the localnewspaper like very articulate,
really nice guy, super smart,right, very mechanically set,
like dudes of genius.
He's a guy you want to say yes,he's like I'm a guy.
You know what I mean.
You can do all kinds of coolshit, um, but he's like, he's
like they kind of made him lookdumb and he's like it kind of
upset him, you know, becausethat's just how they're gonna do
it, like that was the point ofthe show was to.

(28:21):
I don't I want to say likeobviously poke fun, but just to
be like look at these dumb.
Hell of a weird.
Yeah, these weird people.
Yeah, he lives over aroundHouston, missouri, okay, so
that's like central, ish,central southern, deep in the
Ozarks proper.
You know, fucking perfect.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Um.
So, with that being said, so wegot so far.
Their walkers, blood doesn'ttransmit it.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Um if you're in a city, you're probably fucked, um
, seriously like and that's withanything, I mean, if there's
any disaster and you live in acity, yeah, you're fucked Like
that's just the reality in NewOrleans.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
How many days it takes them to get water to uh.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
How many days it takes FEMA to get water to the
oh, dude, it was a disaster fora long like the police
department defected, theystarted looting.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Take that for example , you guys.
That's how well the governmentresponds to problems.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Man, people have to understand in a like something
as crazy as zombie apocalypse,where just people starting or
biting you and then, like everythen, they're turning into some
psycho Um, trying to kill you.
I mean, think about how easilypanicked people become now.
Oh dude, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, you think shit is like civilized?
Yes, but like cuz see.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I think even if there's people that survive,
there's gonna be a mass callinglike a suicide.
I think most people would justkill themselves rather than have
to gut out surviving like thisfucking catastrophic zombie
apocalypse.
That's just like killingeveryone and indiscriminate.
Like you know, you woke up thatmorning, you gave your 10 year

(29:56):
old kid a kiss and then thereare fucking zombie and you had
to stab him in the head with afucking fire poker.
There's a swaggering iron.
You're like I always hated thatfucking little shit.
No, that's.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
I mean?
I mean, if you're thinkingrealistically, like, okay,
you're in the heart of New YorkCity in a 500 square foot
apartment, uh, surrounded by,and you're on like the 30th
floor, yeah, you know,surrounded by millions of people
, just jump out.
Yeah, just jump on the window.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
You know you get your whole family right there.
Just do everyone in favor andjust yeah, Just just go off into
the night.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, it's that's.
I mean that'd be a tough call,man.
I mean you can take yourchances.
And actually they talk about,uh, I know in that book they
mentioned like, if you are in,uh, an area such as that I mean,
as soon as electricity go out,it goes out in a tower, um,
elevator's gone Okay, if you canfind some way to block, hate or
destroy a staircase and amulti-store building and seal

(30:47):
off and secure maybe the topcouple floors, you might
actually have some sort ofshelter.
And now, because I mean,obviously, if we're talking
walkers like they can't climb,you know, they can't do anything
.
They're not world wars either.
They're gonna stack up and getyou, you know, or anything like
that.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I mean anything that requires maintenance, like when
we think about you know, we livein this very advanced time and
we do like technology is amazing, but also we're.
It's like a house of cards,like all of it can get zapped
away by a really strong solarflare from the sun.
You could just wipe it all out.
We were just super lucky to beliving in a very calm time,

(31:24):
absolutely In the universe, andthen you start thinking about
surviving a zombie apocalypse.
You gotta, you gotta assumethat everything, again anything
that's like tied to a system isgonna fail, and probably
relatively quickly, like signals, although I don't, I don't know
.
I bet you the satellites would,they would keep doing everything

(31:45):
.
I suppose, like having a CBR,ham radio would be extremely ham
radio.
Ham radio because that's whatthe military would be using.
They'd be using the ham radiosystem, they'd be working with
civilian operators and and, andyou know what I mean.
But because you have to have afederal license to for ham radio
, like I looked into it, likeit's, I got a buddy, he was a

(32:06):
corpsman and he's he's got a hamradio and he's got a license to
go on the waves and like wow, Imean they're, they take it very
serious, like people that dothat in that world.
It's.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
It's a very serious, they go ham with that shit.
That's a good one.
Thanks, man.
Yeah, good one.
I'm here all week.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah.
So yeah, communication deviceswould have to be pretty simple.
You could get just a basicwalkie-talkie system, you know,
but most people don't even havethat.
Oh no, again, let's juststicking with this fucking city
thing.
You know, because most peoplelisten are probably living in a

(32:45):
city or in your city,statistically, yeah, and the
suburbs, because, you know, inthe suburbs you might be a
little better off.
But I think people in thesuburbs would have a false sense
of safety because they wouldjust like they would probably
shut down in their house.
You know, I think.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I feel like a lot would, and let's take an account
most people have.
I mean, think about yourself,guys, as you're listening to
this.
How much food do you have inyour home?
How long could you live offthat food with your family?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Even rationing, most people only have enough food for
about a week, yeah, and thenyour electricity goes out, your
meat spoils and you got to thinkis most people aren't
disciplined with food anyway, soa week's worth of food might
not even last that longRationing.
I ate two burgers.
That's one less than usual.
Yeah, because, man, you got tothink of all these factors that

(33:35):
would be introduced intosomething like a zombie
apocalypse, because, likesuddenly yeah, you know you're
going from living in a time ofplenty to like oh shit, I think
there's no food anymore, andagain that's a thing that's
relying on a system.
So the zombie apocalypse hips.
And if you like, I guess if youdon't have a source of food

(33:56):
you're going to, you know youcould be so vulnerable, because
what are you going to do in thecity.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Well, let's take it we.
I mentioned New York earlier.
Let's take somewhere that hasextremely I'm not going to
advocate for I'm not going toget super into the gun debate
here but someone that has superstringent gun laws.
So most civilians aren't goingto be owning weapons.
Yes, people who do own weaponsare most likely to be already be
criminals who haven'tregistered them.
So the people who are alreadyperfectly OK with crime now have

(34:23):
this huge advantage againstpeople who don't and no laws.
And yeah, there's going to be alot of of rating and looting
and if you are, you know, pokeyour head out too much or make
too much noise or anything likethat, or make people aware that
you have supplies, you're payinga big fucking target on your
back man.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
All right, here's a question.
So are you OK?
So the apocalypse is upon us?
Ok, right, the zombies areroaming, they're eating people.
Ok, you get.
You're navigating through yourcity or suburb.
Do you take on survivors?
Do you band together withpeople, do you?

(35:04):
How do you vet?
How do you choose who you'regoing to survive with?

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Well, I, mean you would say, ideally you'd be like
, oh yeah, my family and friendswould be perfect.
But I mean, let's be honest,like anyone who you have that is
extremely old, extremely out ofshape, dealing with medical
conditions, let's say yourfamily is just in a totally
different state.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Let's just say it's just you, and, like your
boyfriend, girlfriend, maybe yougot a couple kids or something.
So it's just your immediatefamily, nothing crazy Like,
let's just say, grandparents arenowhere near where you live.
Ok, you know.
So as you're navigating through, you know like these are like
decisions You'd have to thinkabout because you know, do you
loan Wolf it?
Do you like?
No, no, we're just stickingwith us.

(35:46):
Are you trying to join acollective or are you trying to
be like, hey, let's bandtogether.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
I would say, long term you would have to have a
community.
If we're going to be talkinglike being a group, you have to
have.
I mean, you can try yourself tobe your own security, but
there's no fucking way You'regoing to get sleep.
It's tough.
So I mean having a group wouldbe ideal.
But then again your whole pointin selecting your group.
I mean you know if you'recarrying a backpack full of

(36:12):
canned food and you run intoanother couple?

Speaker 1 (36:14):
of people.
So that's the thing is likethat.
I guess that OK, so maybethey'll tie into that.
So if you just run into peopleand they have no type of like,
they have no supplies, they haveno weapons, do you, they
fucking?
But let's say you've gotsupplies and you've got weapons.
Do you, I do, take thealtruistic route or the kind

(36:34):
route and join us?
Or you're like to get the fuckaway because and then you come
across people with supplies.
I hate Join us.
Like you, you've got someresources and we can pool them.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, so obviously as soon as the shit is probably in
the first week, money oranything else is going to be out
the window.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
And it's literally right away.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Rick Lee going to be trading supplies.
So I would say so we're talkingabout you're on the move, Like
you have a backpack with all thebelongings you're going to.
Ok.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, you're biking down some alleyways.
You know getting gettingtowards the city's edge.
You know you're like you'renavigating through it.
You guys have made it and it'slike you know, do you pick up?
No, do you pick up people alongthe way.
I just try to focus on gettingthe fuck out.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Realistically speaking, I'm going to be kind
of like we were talking aboutthe walking dead earlier.
I'm going to be I'm probablymore of the Shane roundup.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
We're talking about the true survive.
Me too, man.
I mean like especially ifyou've got team shame people can
see your backpacks full of shit.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Speaking of people with dead weight is pretty much
like you're kind of like askingfor it, absolutely, absolutely.
If people know you havesupplies, you know they have
supplies and you have somethingto offer, they have something to
offer I feel like you might bebetter off.
Obviously, if you know ifthere's a people driving down a
car and they'll have AR 15s, youknow, hanging out the window, I
probably try to avoid thoseguys because I don't think

(37:57):
they're there to negotiatetrading.
Right, you know, but it'd betough man?

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, you're.
You know you're in this extremesituation and it's like you
have to.
You know there's going to get apoint where you're going to
have to trust somebody.
You're going to have to.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, but take for example, wasn't it?
28 weeks later.
They're all in the house in thebeginning, in that in this
pregnant woman shows up, or isit a kid?
I think it was a kid.
Yeah, he shows up.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, it's like hanging on the windows.
Do you let the kid in Becausehe'd be in chased?
Yeah, do you like some of themdidn't want to let him in, right
Wasn't?

Speaker 2 (38:27):
there some people Fuck.
I mean, it could have been afucking trap, dude Bro, I would
have let that kid out there.
Sorry, yeah, but if he keepsbanging on the fucking door and
making noise, they would just gofor him they wouldn't know to
investigate the house becauseall the windows were boarded up.
So they would have no reason toattack the house.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
They're just after the kid.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
I mean, you're really an ambassador spot.
I mean, if I was okay, thinkabout it.
Okay, If I'm a marauder and I'mtrying to get to see if there's
people in somewhere, if theyhave supplies, how many there
are, why would you not just usea kid as a way to, I mean, just
poke at the soft spot inpeople's hearts to try to kind
of?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
gauge.
I think people like in that, doyou really like?
I almost feel like people wouldbe terrified to even try to go
marauding for at least a littlewhile.
I think that that would come abit later.
I think, like I think thatweeks and months would have to
go by where, like you know,because they're just I don't

(39:22):
know man, I feel like they'd beso People don't have enough food
to get fucking starving.
You're not going to care manLike as soon as.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
I mean, think about you got a starving fucking
family back in your house orapartment, you know, and you're
like supermarkets fuckingcleaned out shelves.
You can't find food anywhere.
Yeah, I'm finding some dipshitwho doesn't have any weapons for
defense and I'm going tofucking cull them and take over
shit, like that shit wouldhappen.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Okay, and so here's the problem with that right.
So say you're, you are anotherperson navigating through a city
, you have no supplies and yousee a family with supplies, do
you just fucking say go, takethem out and take?

Speaker 2 (40:00):
their shit.
Do I have my own family who'sstarving?
Yes, you would.
I would like to.
I mean, morally speaking.
I would like to say, hey, maybeyou know we could help protect
you.
Yeah, let's just say we haveweapons right, and so let's say
we can help protect you and youcome back and we could split up
supplies and we could do sometrading, whatever.
That would be ideal, that wouldbe ideal, that would.

(40:21):
But if there is no negotiating,then you got to kill them.
Yeah, that would just taketheir shit and let them figure
it out.
You know, give them a chance.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, but what if they come?
That's risky.
Yeah, you better off just beinglike look, I'm a Puchetti
misery, I'm going to take yoursupplies.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Man, I'm trying to imagine myself like I'm like
there might be.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
you know, karma's a bitch and like you know, you're
like fucking under attack byzombies and you go to a building
and it's like they're the oneswho are going to let you in.
They're like, oh, fuck you, andthey're just going to watch you
get eaten by zombies.
You're going to get like thatkid on because you left him
alive.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Like who is that kid who played on?
Everybody hates Chris.
That got like destroyed againstthe glass in front of Glenn I
watched that.
Yeah, you did Walking dead bro.
Oh, it was before.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Oh damn it.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Oh, spoiler alert for walking dead If you haven't
seen it, fuck you, never mind.
They said this is Chris.
Everybody hates Chris.
Everybody hates it.
It was the African American kidfrom everybody hates Chris.
Oh, remember, glenn barely gotout and you just see the kid
press against the glass RightRipped apart.
That was brutal.
It's good kill.
Um, yeah, I mean, I do believekarma's a bitch.

(41:28):
Um, I'm not going to say I'd belike I want to take some moral
high ground, just based on likeI'd like to think I have enough
character to be like.
Not if it means if I knowdirectly it is like my family or
yours and there is no otheroption.
I'm always going to pick youknow.
Yeah, I mean, I understand.
I definitely see where you'recoming from.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Um, I just feel like I would probably choose violence
every time.
Yeah, I know, but I know, Iknow, I know that, but like I'm
just, I, uh, I would take aMongolian scorched earth earth
approach where, like, youconquer a city and you just got
to kill everyone in it.
So you have no enemies, right,just get rid of them.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Just just fucking kill it.
I mean you probably are goingto kill everyone.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
I mean because if you take a family supplies and you
leave them there.
Is that a fate worse than death?
I think so.
Yeah, especially if they don'tknow what the fuck they're doing
.
Yeah, like dad's a fuckingbanker and mom's a fucking Karen
, you know, and the kids arejust fucking confused about
their gender and everything elseand like, oh, you know, fucking

(42:34):
oh we had to make them forgetit.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Here it was in the cabinet, so we decided to bring
them.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
They're fucked.
Yeah, you're going to leave.
They're going to get eaten and,like the fucking, watch your
kids getting by zombies.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
It will sell.
You has a hammer, it's all yougot, and they don't have
anything.
You're going to fucking hammera kid to death, bro, if he's a
zombie?
I'm talking about, we'retalking about the human family
you just stole the shit from.
Are you going to fucking beathim to death?
The hammer all of them.
That's harsh dude.
Yeah, I'm saying like this isthe brutal reality, especially
in the case of somewhere.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Listen, turn around, you won't feel a thing.
Kid, I promise You're thecloset yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
I'm going to go to sleep, so let's let's talk about
some fun, okay, so one thing Ido want to mention that was
really fun in this book.
That was a really good point.
I mean, they obviously bring upa whole bunch of different
strategies, a whole bunch ofdifferent weapons, right?
I mean the?
You know the plus size andnegative size.
They brought up a reallyinteresting point I've never
seen executed and I've neverheard really talked about.
So he was mentioning differentways to arm yourself.

(43:36):
We'll take World War Z.
He wraps magazines around hisarm.
Zines is good.
Don't say that's smart.
Yeah, they talked aboutchainmail, chainmail.
Where the fuck are you going toget changed?
I mean, let's just some fuckingmedia nerd.
Yeah, man who has, like,helmets sitting on this table or
something, yeah right, he's gotfucking.
I see the helmet.
No, okay, I think it's out ofthe picture.
Yeah, he's got a Viking helmet.
He's a fucking nerd.

(43:56):
A shark suit.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah, but where the fuck are you going to get a
shark suit from?

Speaker 2 (44:02):
I feel about if you live in fucking Tampa.
They don't have one.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Yeah, that seems like .
That seems like a specialtyitem you'd find in the video
game.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
I know, I know, I know, but like something it's
made to prevent shark or helpprevent shark fights.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
I think the magazine thing is actually practical.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Okay, I know, I know I have the duct tape and
magazines.
Okay, but you still have, youcan have any of them covering
your joints, anything I mean,anything like in, like the area
of the arm.
I mean there's so many I mean.
None of this is going to helpif you get grabbed by a horde
and just fucking pulled apart.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
I almost think you'd have to make something layered
you could use like aluminum orsomething.
What about Kevlar?

Speaker 2 (44:39):
for a chest it would work.
I mean Kevlar, I mean plus.
That would help stop a handgunbullets.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah to a certain caliber.
Well, you know, it always seemslike zombies lunge at you.
So you, like, I think youdefinitely want your forearms
have arms, and arms heavilyprotected, Like if you could get
a riot shield.
That'd be perfect.
Fucking sweet.
You know those would be layingaround.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Right, yeah, probably , probably they're trying to
establish martial law in time.
Absolutely, they have shieldsand it seems like some of these
movies and shows they handle somuch differently and how fast
the apocalypse takes place.
Like World War Z, there was nogolden window, like it was
literally like and I thinkthat's how it happened.
It just happened so fast andthere were fucking sprinters
Like yeah, Well, even if theyweren't, I think when you're in

(45:20):
a city area like I mean, dude,look at a.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
I've been seeing this on YouTube.
It's like there's a, thislittle, it's in Philadelphia and
it's just loaded with fuckingmeth.
Like the drugs are terriblethere.
So like it would take an arealike that where people are just
living right on top of eachother.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
They're already acting crazy.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
It would.
It would spread so fast, itwould just overwhelm Dude, it
would overwhelm everyone, youknow, and I just because then if
, if we're thinking about thefast moving zombies, then yeah,
it's going to be vastlydifferent.
I guess I still think even theslow ones, it's going to spread
pretty quick.
Yeah, Just because peoplewouldn't know what was going on.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
And like why are you getting so close to me?
What the fuck are you?

Speaker 1 (46:02):
doing Right.
Yeah, yeah, dude, we're such asoft society.
We would allow people to getinto our space and you can't
jujitsu zombies.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
That's the fucking problem.
You cannot jujitsu zombies.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Maybe ankle locks.
You have to do a combo.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
I don't want anything close to the head though.
Man, I'm going to single X,keep them away.
I'm saying like dude, no, maybenot.
I don't know if that works.
They fucking started sitting upon you.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
The only thing you can just jujitsu for in the
zombie is to just createdistance, like that'd be it.
Like you fell down, you're likeoh my God, and you just sweep
it and then get the fuck out ofthere.
You never seen X guard.
You undead Fuck, take that Getscrap bitch, I'm going to get
the fuck out of here, and thenhe fights your way.
Fuck, I forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Damn, damn it.
I thought the M&R role is moreeffective than this.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
It's funny because, like when I'm watching a movie
and someone's doing somethinglike shouldn't know jujitsu, but
zombies like yeah, there's no.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
I mean, hand to hand is literally kind of null and
void, no void.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah, but also like because I don't think.
Do you think most people evenhave the peace of mind to grab
weapons?
I think I think somewhat.
I think the reality is is mostpeople I don't even like, think
about how nonviolent our societyhas become.
Hmm, right, like, do you reallysee people grabbing weapons,
getting ready to, like, fight?

(47:21):
I don't even know if they wouldknow what to grab.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Yeah, I mean, there's obvious stuff like oh, there's
a like who's got a tomahawklaying?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
around their house.
I mean, besides us, besides,like yeah, besides us and stuff.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
I think most people like you know, even some of
certain knives are outlawed.
I mean like people I definitelyunderstand, like, especially, I
feel like more of the I'd saymaybe we'll just say the
city-ish crowd, and like themore.
I don't want to get toopolitical, but I mean they're
not, they're not, they don'tcare about weapons, right,

(47:56):
exactly, I mean you can't youcan't pepper spray a fucking
zombie.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
you know like I ain't going to do nothing, it's just
going to eat that shit and stillwalk right now.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, you're going to spice up the flavor.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
The thing about firearms is, if you've got like
a fucking I don't know aspecialty round, like that's
going to be detrimental becauseyou think you want to have the
basic nine millimeter five, five, six shot 12 gauge 22, 22.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Think about how many rounds of 22 you carry in a
fucking backpack.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
I have like 2000 rounds of 22.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
You can carry like 550 in, like a little box.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
You can carry bricks of 500.
No problem, yeah, no problem.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
So the thing, penetration wise, I mean, if
you're talking about juststrictly headshots, you know you
got the basic, fairly commonknowledge.
22 will work, yeah, and it hasthis sweet ability to like not
have enough velocity to gothrough the skull twice, so it's
typically in there andscrambles, so yes, absolutely so
like, and that's what you'regoing to want to have.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
You're going to want to have weapons that can take
these, uh, those, those kind ofrounds 29 millimeter, five, five
, six.
You shot, you shot you shot.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
You've shot so many 20 gauge, 20 gauge, 12.
Yeah, and then you've got gunsand I want you to think about
how many people own guns andenough rounds to be feasible and
how many people would be ableto accurately perform under
pressure.
I mean, you're military, youhad the pressure chest, I'm not
going to be a lot.
Yeah, I mean shit, dude, yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Because, like, even the Taliban in Afghanistan were
the fucking terrible shots, yeah, and they were like shooting at
us with machine guns and stillmissing us, thank God, but like,
so I think.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
But see, that's maybe their job was giving in the way
.
No, no man.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
A lot of them were from Pakistan so they wore you
know, that's what's funny thebit of an aside.
That's how we knew the regionsA lot of these fighters were
from, because, you know, theytake their headdresses very
seriously and Pakistan had acertain style, like the men in
Afghanistan had a differentstyle.
So, like we, often afterfirefights, you know we'd

(50:01):
recover artifacts and stuff anda lot of them would be like they
would be wearing thesePakistani style hats because
they always go oh, pakistanifighters aren't coming over.
Like bullshit, motherfucker.
I just smoked, like three ofthem, yeah, like they clearly
are coming over here, but anyway, but you're right, under stress
, under duress, I'm going to goahead and say a majority of
people are going to fuck up.

(50:22):
You know they're.
They're guns going to jam andthey're not going to know how to
tap right, bang or clear it orthey haven't maintenance their
gun in years and like they don'teven know, you know, or they
forgot how to use it.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Yeah, they fucking haven't cleaned their barrel.
They haven't anything.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Or they're trying to shoot it and it's on safety, but
they're so panicky that theydon't realize and they just
throw it.
Team Glock, Dude, people dofucked up stuff under pressure,
Absolutely Like.
And so you start thinking abouta zombie apocalypse where
there's these goddamn thingswalking around biting people and
eating their flesh and pullingtheir guts out and just having a

(51:00):
fucking organ party with yourguts.
You know, like this is soawesome, it's like a rave.
And you're like, yeah, I wasthrough to getting down man.
Like that's their fentanylbrother.
Yeah, Like the fucking brainsbaby.
And so that's the other thingabout the other zombie movies.
Was the brains Like, why dothey always want to eat the

(51:21):
bread?
I don't fucking know, man.
That's why I, like the otherzombie, Like just eat the flesh.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Yeah, they're just fucking your flesh.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
You're blood and your fucking your kidneys and liver
and stuff.
I mean they probably like the,you know livers are human liver
zombies, probably like bro.
This is iron, right, there's afucking, there's a fucking
zombie liver and he just pedaled, he's peddling human livers,
just crushing skulls.
These are breastfed live.

(51:48):
Human livers, man, like.
These are vegans, you know,like some vegan livers, but
they're actually awful becauseyou need to eat meat.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Yeah, he'd have to be like he has to be pinning some
like cerebral spinal fluid, youknow just out Spinal tap.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
No, you get to that bone marrow, that bone marrow.
So, yeah, I think a majority ofpeople would be so useless with
a firearm that.
But you know, what'd beinteresting is that even trained
people can panic to like.
That's the thing about trainingis, uh, has to be something

(52:23):
you're really sustaining, like,even if it hasn't done it.
Do zombies like.
Uh, it's not enough.
If you do it a couple times ayear, like, you're still going
to have that panic button.
You know, and I think that'swhy, like, the Marine Corps is
so successful with like, youknow, the grunts is that we, you
know we train so fucking muchthat when it came time to game
time, we're like we fucking, wegot this easy, easy, didn't even

(52:46):
think about it.
I, you know.
I think you know we don't talkabout Jiu-Jitsu, but I think if
you do stuff like that on adaily basis, you're going to be
one of those people who aregoing to be less likely to panic
in these kinds of scenariosbecause you're like but I, you
can't guarantee that cause, noone's ever done zombie.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Well, you never know.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Like oh my God, it's happening, you know.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
then you just get taken out like imagine the year
I quit those old school guyslike I only carry 19, 11, you
know you got a seven roundmagazine.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
you're back in the corner with five surrounding you
Like are you going to hit allyour shots with another 20
behind them?

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Yeah, you know coming in.
Just so I would say I'd say,rule wise um, no matter where
you go, you need to always havelike at least one or two routes
out of there.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Yes, Um, absolutely, yeah, Okay so, okay.
So, let's say, you're out ofthe city now.
Okay, right so.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
I've killed.
I've killed multiple families.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
I have this.
Well, possibly it's possible,or or you banded together and
they're in your group of threeor four is now a group of seven
or eight, okay, and you're allkind of on the same page.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Are they capable?

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Are they?
Are they ready to do thisfucking survival when?
What are your next steps?
Where are you going?
Where are you going from there?
Like, are you, can you get outof the city?
Uh, okay, let's say you manageto get some kind of vehicle,
okay, that will accommodate allof you.
What's the climate like?
Where am I?
Well, let's say it's um, sayit's like the fall, winter's

(54:15):
coming, winter's coming, yeah,but get okay, winter's coming,
it's dark over here.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Okay, so let's say it's like.
It's like, give me a location,are we talking?
Are we talking like mid fall,like 50 degrees, or talking mid
fall like 30 degrees?
I mean like Missouri.
Missouri, okay, excellent.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
So I'm not going to worry about.
I'm not going to worry aboutactually, no, let's say, like
New York, because that's a bigcongested area.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
So, holy shit, you know they.
I think on one of those studiesand like one of them was by uh,
I think Cornell did one, Ithink it's what I said earlier
they said that if, uh, uh,zombies were to walk from New
York, even to get to likeupstate New York, it would take
them like a significant, it'dtake them like three months just
to walk there.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Okay, but what if?
See, this is how it's going tospread Cause.
Remember, they're going to getpeople, are going to get bitten
and they're not going to changeimmediately?
No, they're going to drive off.
They're going to drive off.
Yeah, no, it's going to spreadthat way.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Yes, I mean obviously the concentration when you get
to less densely populated areas,like, unless they they follow
some sort of hoard mentality,which it seems like they do most
.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Pop culture yeah, they band together for some
reason which, if you think aboutit there, if they're going back
to these primal instincts, itwould make sense that they would
kind of maybe hoard together.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Yeah, I mean, but obviously if you go to a
population town of a thousandversus you know like, uh,
several million, you're stillnot going to have that big of a
hoard in, uh, in the 10,000 areathere's.
It's not possible that they'regoing to be.
You're going to be dealing withless of what I'm trying to say.
So, um, I do not know the exactlike like geographical, um like
landmarks of New York, becauseobviously I've never been there.

(55:49):
Um, I personally would go south.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Say like, say you're Jonesboro.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Jonesboro.
Yeah, I'm headed back.
I'm headed back home.
I'm heading back to fuckingwhere I'm from.
Dude, I'm getting the fuck awayfrom Jonesboro.
I'm heading north, back towardswhere I'm going.
Okay, uh, let's see Jonesboroand I'm in a vehicle.
Um, I feel like seven or eightpeople.
Yeah, I personally know um,people who.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
I'm friends with, so you're going to go back home, is
there?
Are there people around there?

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Very, very minimal.
Dude, I live like two or threemiles down gravel, so not
perfect.
Yeah, and I've got, like I'vegot like one neighbor who's
actually within, like you know,like a quarter mile.
So, um, and they're, they'repretty cool people.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
So, yeah, probably going to go back home, um or or
let's, let's even, let's changethe setting Okay, fictional city
, hey, okay, right, about twomillion people.
Okay, outside of fictional city, hey, it's, it's relatively
rural.
Okay, uh, let's say to thenorth, it's cold, right, there's

(56:55):
mountains.
To the south, uh, there's,maybe big tracks of forest out
to the west, you know, you can,is whatever.
So, with winter coming, and uh,when in World War Z the book I
think, they talk about how agroup of survivors went north
and the zombies froze, yeah, andthen thought out and then came

(57:19):
back to you know, but like so,would you like say it's fall?
I mean, would you have that?

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Would you even think that, like these are zombies, we
should go north because there'sa good chance that they're
going to just well, if we'refucking following the concept of
they technically still have, ifthey're not like actually
having vital functions, yeah,like walking down to the
technically don't have aheartbeat, you know you can chop
off, right, they're going tokeep going, right?
Um, I still feel like ifthey're, they're using muscle

(57:47):
tissue like this, obviously noneof it makes sense, like in a
way, speaking like that.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
No, no, no, Okay.
Think about that mushroom, the,that fungal virus.
Are you talking about the onefrom the last South America?
Oh, what are we talking about?
Well, no, there's an.
There's an actual like fungusthat can manipulate Like a body.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
I know, but they fucking like if they're dead.
They're not breathing, they'renot getting oxygen, their
muscles, they physicallycouldn't move.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Right, which means something fungal maybe would
have to be controlling them.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
I mean, I've seen the last of us, brother.
They made it a cordyceps waswhat they used.
Why would they use cordyceps?
Those are good for you.
They're saying cordycepsmutated.
That's so.
That's so stupid.
Viruses mutate all the time.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Mushrooms don't mutate.
Mushrooms are fucking.
That's why Paul Stamets wasupset with that show.
I get it now.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
That's the premise of the fucking game too.
Oh, I didn't play any of that.
It was supposed to be.
Really, I'm not a PlayStationguy, but it was supposed to be
extremely good.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
I missed that train, not the second one I missed that
train?

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Yeah, it's okay.
I mean I guess I kind of didtoo.
The show was decent, but Iwould say I would definitely go
towards the.
I would be more inclined to gotowards the forest.
You're still going to havereduced population.
Mountains is going to be, I'massuming, much lower
temperatures.
Yeah, I mean visibility wouldbe great, but at the same time,
resources are going to be verylimited.

(59:02):
You're going to have to beconstructing your own structures
, walls, et cetera.
Yeah, if you're not, or if youwant to build walls, I mean it'd
be great to have a bunch oftrees around.
Plus, I mean wildlife would bemuch more limited than the
mountains.
I'm assuming, like, if you'retalking about hunting, if you're
talking about forging your ownfood.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Yeah, it could be Like I mean you would be able to
, but not if you're in a statelike Wyoming or Montana or you
know what I mean.
Because me, I'm going west,dude, I'm going west, you get me
north and south.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
You bastard, you didn't give me another option.
Well, I said west, I mean, butyou said mountains or four, I
would say west.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
I guess I'd go west because it's just flat, it's
flat and there's just there'snot.
You know, I lived on the roadand so it was funny.
When I was living on the road Iwould play these scenarios in
my head.
I'm like, if something likethat happened, what would I do?
And I'm like I had solar.
You know, I had solar in my RV.
I had propane that would run myfridge, but it also run on
electric.
They would run on my solar andthe west is just so sparsely

(01:00:03):
populated, but you know.
But I guess the one thing youhave to worry about is if that
these zombies are hoardingtogether like where are they
going?
Because I think in World War Zthere's another.
They're like the battle, likethey're on the desert earth.
They have some kind of battleand they're just.
Millions of them are masked,walking across the landscape,
dude, but you would see thatYou'd have plenty of time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Yeah, I mean in a flat, flat scenario.
I mean think about how they gotambushed at the farm walking
down the downside to that islack of wildlife.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Yeah, that would be the one obvious downside.
I mean, your canned food isgonna run out, dude your rice
and beans.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Eventually you have to be able to grow your own cuz.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
I didn't see a lot of when I was like I spent a lot
of time out in the desert outthere and they're just Scrubby
areas and like there's not a lotof anything, really like you'd
be living on fucking lizards andrabbits.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
I'm okay, without that I prefer.
I like deer meat, it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Yeah, there's no deer , there's like nothing out there
.
Yeah, I know.
So I'm saying I'd rather be inthe woods.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Yeah, personally I mean yeah, obviously you're
gonna hunt the population outeventually, but I mean well, cuz
.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
You gotta think most people are gonna be fleeing the
city Right, they're gonna begetting the fuck out.
All Gonna know where to go.
All people are probablythinking is like I need to get
as far away from here aspossible.
And when you look at the eastcoast, like the east coast is
just so Congested, man, it'sfucking atrocious.

(01:01:20):
So it's like the whole eastcoast I feel like would be
compromised.
And then like there would bethis exodus going west, midwest
you know what I mean.
Like because everybody's cuz itgets less and less popular as
it gets towards the middle ofthe country.
Hmm, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
So it'd be like a tidal wave of people who are
starving and looking forresources.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Yeah, I bet, you see, like Donovan right, small town,
small city, I'm willing to betyou that these small towns Would
, they would like they wouldwall themselves off, you know, I
mean they wouldn't letoutsiders in, like I feel like
that would happen Like anAlexandria scenario.
Dude, my neighbor, my well, Iguess, my neighbor, he, he was

(01:02:03):
like bro, he's ready, he's readyfor fucking survival, like we
had this conversation.
He's like, dude, if somethinghappens, it's a cult, I'm gonna
cut, I'll cut these trees down alittle bit, access to the road.
He's like I'll watch the front,you can watch the back, and I'm
like All right, dude, I likeyou, dude, we'll get along.
Man, yeah, we're gonna do great.
I'm like we're gonna fuckpeople up.
We're not taking none of ourstuff, but that's what people

(01:02:26):
are gonna look for, people fromthe city they're gonna be
looking for.
But I think it'd be crazy outhere too, you know, I think, I
think it would, huh, I think I'dhave to get that way.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
But I mean Still, I mean, like I said, just the
lower population idea.
Like I mean, think about howlong it'd take to walk here from
Jonesboro.
Do Jesus, exactly long ass timeand if we're if we're, and one
thing it never really getscovered much in the walking dead
or anything is like how longtill they decay so much they
can't move anymore, like howlong before they just collapse?

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
yeah, because I guess after a while yeah, they just
wait I would have to wait themout.
But, like you know, maybe therate of decay is really slow.
Yeah, you know, maybe, like thevirus, you know, maybe that
maybe there's like a like apreservative in there, that like
, so maybe it takes them acouple years to decay.
That would suck, that wouldsuck, that would suck a lot, and

(01:03:26):
then you'd have to, like you'dhave to do more work to
eradicate More of them, wouldyou risk using Well unsuppressed
firearms all the time?
That's a good one, geez cuz.
Yeah, noise attracts them, Iwouldn't smell.
Attracts them, man, I would doeverything in my power to be
quiet, I know but I Fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Katana is not practical, it's not.
Daryl Dixon's crossbow is notfucking practical, it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
I mean even trying to get a headshot of the crossbow.
Good, fucking, yeah, try that.
I Mean maybe at five yards, butanything beyond that, yeah,
okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Yeah, let's just fucking, unless you're
practicing on that every fuckingday.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
The head is a teeny little moving target and that's
why, like even the military weretaught that the T-box drills,
like you know, to the chest oneof the head, you know, because,
like To to the chest boom,that's like that's gonna stop
most people.
Yeah, the head ones, just, youknow, for bonus.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Yeah, I said I was in God Got him, I guess, suppose.
If it's those zombies, though,I guess the two in the chest
would make much of a difference,those fucks, unless you sever
their spine.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Yeah, because the classic zombies, they're just
gonna eat that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
They're gonna keep rolling, you gotta fucking get a
crush that skull and that's,and that's not an easy, that's
not easy target to hit over and,over and over again, especially
Think about.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Okay.
So like, think about if we'redealing with the fast movers
Right, like think about how thatwould change the tactics,
because center mass all the time, well, center mass all the time
.
But then, like you got to thinkabout movement, because if
these things can chase you soright off the bat, anyone who's
not in shape, they're fucked.

(01:05:12):
Anyone who can't run at all,they're fucked.
Old people are fucked, fatpeople are for sure.
Well, that's the other thingabout any any major catastrophe.
Think about Like there will bea mass kill-off and it's gonna
be in the hospitals becausethey're gonna lose power.
The generator is gonna fail.
Anybody on critical Such limitsdone man.
Think about people that are ontype one diabetes medication.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
I was mentioning earlier any severe medical
condition.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
You're fucked, fucked anything you need medication
for you're fucked.
Think about how many people arein medication right now.
No, fucking hell, dude, there'dbe immediate withdrawals on
Fucking oxy cop, like, andthat's things I don't think
people think about, right, whensomething like this happens a
zombie apocalypse You're like ohmy god, zombies.
But then you're like, oh shit,I'm on heart medication.

(01:06:00):
Yeah, like oh shit, I'm onblood thinners, like I've got
gout.
you know just, we already almosthave an art you know and it's
like, well, you can't take yourfucking ambient or whatever, the
fucking worse sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Yeah, you think you're depressed.
Good zombie pockets.
What do we discontinue?
Your Zoboff bitch, take that.
Yeah, no more, fucking no moreat all.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
You think you're anxious now no more at all, so
you can't write your weirdnewspaper articles anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Say goodbye to your colon if you're teeth shittering
.
You're about to learn the truemeaning of anxiety.
Mother, how was it entertaining?
I was a good like, let's sayjust unnecessary, but kind of
like, yeah, just funny, yeah, um.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Yeah, but that's like .
So, really, the zombieapocalypse is perfectly tailored
for people who are in shape.
Yep, okay, especially if we'retalking about these fast-moving
zombies, because I feel likesome people would take that as a
challenge like, alright,motherfucker, I'm gonna fucking,
I'm gonna outrun you and youprobably won't be able to
because they're just, yeah, theydon't seem to be very tired
very fast and they're just gonnarun through a window or a wall.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
They have no concern black summer zombies.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
They were kind of like that.
They would just run throughdoors just terrifying,
terrifying.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
How many fucking doors I can actually like stand
that like I mean you, how wellyou have, I mean you have
something doesn't care for,breaks its fucking neck on a
duck, it doesn't give a shitdoesn't give a shit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Let's see.
If that thing breaks its neck,does it kill it?
Yeah, but maybe you know,because if, if the, if, the like
these 20 Week later zombies,you know they could run and it's
kind of just a virus thatthere's maybe a cure for.
You know, if they get that neckbroken, like, how would it
affect?

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
They have, or it you sever that spine and that
electrical connection, then I'dhave to assume they're
physically can't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Yeah, I know there's no way, yeah like they're not
coming back from that.
Yeah, if I sound, if the spinalcord severed, there is no
communication from the brain tothe rest of the screen.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
We don't, yeah crowbar to the spine, yeah, but
you're gonna have to run, youhave to get distance from them.
Because that's gonna changeyour entire tactics, yep, of how
you get out of it, of how youdeal with them.
Because, because it just addsthis whole dimension of like oh
shit, these are smart, they'redeadly, they're like predators,
yep, and you're suddenly theprey.

(01:08:12):
Say like for me that's way moreterrifying, absolutely, because
you're gonna like, and I thinkmore people would kill
themselves from that scenario.
I think more people wouldrather have the slow-moving
zombies or just like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Bumping into walls.
You can slowly watch yourfamily get devoured, just like
right, just instead of likeseeing them get smashed first.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Yeah, you have another speared.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
You have another 45 seconds to process it.
You know, as your feet aregetting eaten, here's my method.
Okay, I'm going through a smalltown when I'm clearing it out.
Okay, I'm gonna get a truck.
Make sure it's got enoughdiesel.
I'm trying to, obviously.
So you're gonna go to diesel,I'm diesel gas whatever, I'm

(01:08:55):
just thinking I want somethingwith a large bed.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
See, I'll never get a diesel there's, so I don't know
how to work in a diesel.
What I don't know how to workon a diesel engine.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Okay, I guess, whatever anything, it's got a
fucking bed.
Okay, you gotta think aboutthese things.
Listen, man like this issurvival bro this is early on.
This is like clearing out anarea.
Okay, I'm gonna go through withair horns and I'm gonna have
about two or three of my escapefamily, my escape group Okay, so
you're gonna draw them to you.
Yes, we're gonna lay, I'm gonnahave two people lay in the back
of the bed and we're not gonnagive a fuck.

(01:09:27):
We're gonna get all our ammo,multiple weapons.
They're gonna lay in the bed.
We're gonna air horn, we'regonna draw all the ones in the
surrounding area via noise.
Okay, and we're gonna get themin a nice big train.
So, even if you miss the firstone, maybe you can just like hit
a headshot or something behindthem and we're gonna
systematically just go at a nice, maybe like first, second gear
pace.
Okay, and we're gonna slowlyshoot the ones behind us or to

(01:09:49):
lead the rest of them away, likeI mean, think about that shit,
man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
You could that reminds me of how, like planes,
indians hunted buffalo theywould corral them and then push
them over cliffs.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
We wouldn't really be .
They'd be more following you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Well, but it's kind of the same concept where you
just you try to, you're hurtingthem all together.
You know you can get them alltogether so you can
systematically pick them off.
Yeah, because they kind of dothat and the remake of Don of
the dead right or they.
They get in that bus andthey're fucking they don't.
Isn't there a part in therewhere they have to draw their?

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
attention, I forget them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
You know the Ving Reims version, that shit was.
I watched a video about the guyass.
He's like why did they leavethem all?
Like, why did they just stay inthere?
It's indefensible.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Well, it is right and then they're running massive
there and there's it's a mall,so there's not like a ton of
food.
Yeah, I mean there's okay thefood court, but I mean they had
a long second last.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
I mean they had the perfect.
I mean, look, honestly, I knowthe ending obviously didn't work
out in the post credits Cut,yeah, but going to an island
this small enough to like keepthings away, we're gonna assume
these things can't fucking swim,right?
They can't, right, they can't.
Oh yeah, I mean they can't walkthrough a fucking ocean flow, I
know, but they're not gonna beable to navigate.
Okay, if you go to an island,the fish are probably be eating

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them.
Yeah, it's like maybe a couplemiles offshore, you know, and
just fucking like maybe be ableto like go back and forth with
the boat and get some eyes.
I mean, that would be the mostI did.
They had a good idea, thinkabout where the mall was.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
It was in Minnesota, wasn't it?
Don't?
I don't know, I don't want toquote you on that, man.
Okay, so it was eitherMilwaukee or something somewhere
up north.
Right is where that mall was.
So what fucking island are theyon?
So that whatever island they'reon is probably in a lake up
north?
And that anyway, because it'sgonna get fucking cold and they
have no supplies, right?

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
like I thought they were down south more.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
My crazy, no no, they were like it was Minneapolis or
Minnesota or Milwaukee.
Wow, who's up north?

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
so they would have to go to the wet.
Would, I feel, the West Coastfor that?
Or they go the East Coast.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Well, it'd have to be near them because I mean, where
is?
Probably just on some smalllake, yeah, you know, unless
they went to the Great Lakes,like I guess.
But that would only work ifthey were in, like, like
Wisconsin or something.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Hmm, I mean, but think about what better defense
would you have than just beingsomewhere they can't swim to?

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
I Mean, what could possibly be well, cuz I think in
World War Z they did have aFloating barge right where
people were living on it, butthen even that failed.
How that fail, I forget.
See, I shouldn't even broughtit up cuz I don't remember.
That's okay, no, I mean, but Ithink.
But okay, so like a maritimebased survival strategy could
work pretty well, absolutely.
But I think the downfall tothat is like you have to

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constantly return to shore toget resources, so there's always
that risk.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
If it wasn't a decent enough Climate.
Maybe you'll arm.
Yeah, I'm certain like fuel,and like I mean in a city, think
about how many vehicles will besitting there's waiting for gas
to be siphoned.
You'd have to have, obviously,to mix the boat fuel.
You would have to find a nicesurplus of that oil to mix it
with.
If we're talking about atwo-stroke, yeah yeah, boat
engine, yeah, that would be kindof difficult, since that comes

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in very small quantitiestypically.
God damn, there's a lot tothink about.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
But that's what I'm saying.
That's why I think I think alot of people like even if we're
being realistic about it like Ithink the chances of survival
for most people is gonna bepretty fucking small, because
Most people just don't know howto survive.
You know, in any capacity likeare you know we're multiple

(01:13:20):
generations into like Justhaving everything always given
to us or available, and it'slike we have food on demand, we
have medicine on demand, you'vegot everything on demand and
like.
Then, all of a sudden, allthese luxuries are taken away
and I just don't think mostpeople would have the mental
willpower to like handle it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
No, I'm opposed.
Most people don't know anythingabout Survival itself.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Yeah, I'm a how to use firearms or how to kill
someone, like something, how todefend themselves.
You know a lot of people don'thave that aggressive button.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
I Don't man get people hungry.
I feel like there'd be a lotmore people who are fucking
flipping that marauding switch,you know like yeah, yeah, I
could see that like yeah, but Istill think a majority of them
would just probably kill likeit'd be like a mass suicide.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Families are just like all right, we're gonna do
this together.
Yeah, would you rather likethey'd go heavens gate?
You know, heavens gate cold.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
I mean would you rather?
I mean would you watch yourfamily?
I mean I know, obviously we'regonna try it, you know.
But like I mean, Would.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
I'm gonna be playing the survival game.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
I'm gonna be like, yeah, yeah, let's say you, let's
say you had, you had kidssitting in front of you and you,
like, you, realize that therewas no possibility you were in a
such situation either.
Would you, rather than beripped apart and bitten or
turned into whatever the fuckthose things are, man, I don't
know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
I don't know, that's a tough one.
Think about the ending of thenext.
Thank God I don't have kidsbecause I'm gonna great, but I
can't low and wolf at the wholetime.
I'd have to join a groupeventually, but I mean you have.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
You have a lot to offer, though, because you're
post-military, bad ass knowledge.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Yeah, I mean well, yeah, I've got like combat
experience and defense, and Imean think about how valuable
Survival books would be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Yeah, think about like a whole bookshelf of
survival books exactly.
It's fucking like that.
You see how valuable thatshould be when you take down the
internet.
I live in a good spot like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
I live in a place where most people are gonna bug
out to Like the forest, you know, and like I've chickens, I've
got eggs like, and I've gotseeds.
So if I have to start a gardenlike, that is a perfect.
Yeah, I have a seat bank, yeah,and it's like I know how to
Garden and all that other seeds.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Yeah awesome Bakers Creek baby.
Oh my god, I'll be a great um.
One thing I mean I like I don'twant to get to the day like
People like will have like oneor two boxes ammo.
I think they're good to go.
I mean I know I have enoughrounds to kill everyone in my
hometown.
That's what that.
That's.
That's why that's how many Iwant.
You know I'm saying right, yeah, if they turn into zombies.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and most people don't I don't
stock, but the ones that do haveprobably too much.
Honestly, there's seriouslylike look, I've got a pretty
healthy supply of ammunition andit's still, I feel like, not
near enough that I would needyou know, like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
But I mean suppressors, you wouldn't be
able to get a hole.
I mean those would be adecently idea.
I mean they're still makingnoise.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
It was a tough you could make those pretty easily,
though.
I give me an examplesuppressors.
Well, you can make them out oflike Bottles.
You know like ways you can doit.
Have you ever heard of anactual like suppressed 22?
It is so in Afghanistan, ourdesignated marksman rifle had a
suppressor on it.
Yeah, it was a M16 a To I'm 16a to that was stripped down and

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modified, but it was had like anice scope on it, had a
Suppressor on it.
So it was like you know, youhear like the yeah, puff, yeah.
Um, those are like no 22 isfairly quiet.
I mean, that's not that snappysound.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
You know I'm gonna say, if you put a suppressor, me
I view, have you like listenedto, like an audio or like heard
one, a suppressed 22 being shot?
It is fucking wild, it is soquiet.
Yeah, I mean, obviously, guys,22 is not gonna be like you're
accurate round you're taking outfucking a whole group from a
Big range.
You know that'd be like a.
If you're going through like acity block, yeah, minimal, like

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we're not talking like apopulation of hundreds, like
just go through and just youknow, yeah, I'd be a great
weapon of great choice, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
I just I Set myself up because I'm kind of a weirdo,
I'm just like dude, I just wantto already be in the spot.
Oh, my god, I want to alreadybe at a spot.
Well, that's like, look at thefucking pandemic man.
Like Shit got crazy, and justthink about how benign that was
compared to like a zombieapocalypse, like, yeah, that'd

(01:17:48):
be terrible.
It freaked the fuck out.
What people did?
They bought toilet paper andthey like didn't buy supplies
that you would need, like justtoilet paper, like.
So I think a lot of people wouldbe in for a rude fucking
awakening.
Yeah, I think we're going backto like stone ages.
With a little bit of technology, we can rebuild, yeah, which

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would probably be a while.
Yeah, cuz you got to think like, I mean, so many people are
gonna die and it would set usback, and which could maybe not
be a bad thing.
You know there's a lot ofpeople out there that think that
you know humanity has has risenand fallen multiple times.

(01:18:32):
A great reset there, yeah,which I I feel like makes total
sense.
Yeah, I can't believe, in thebillions of years this planet
has existed, that, like Weed,you know that there weren't
other civilizations that roseand then just time wiped them
away.
Yeah, I mean that's whatmillions of years, can easily
wipe away anything.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
They always talk about the pyramids like how was
it possibly constructed?
And never.
Yeah, like I'm Hancock, I Well,yeah, I mean, but I mean an
advanced civilization, maybe ayeah, a big civilization before
constructed it?

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Well, because they're dating these rocks now and
they're saying these rocks arefar older than Egypt.
Like they were there, they hadto have been there before Egypt,
or you know, built by someprevious civilization in Egypt,
just co-opted it, you know, andthey fucked and yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
I think about.
You're like you're walkingaround in the fucking desert and
you just see this massivefucking structure.
You're like I want to bewhatever this thing is.
Like that's badass.
Like yeah, these guys will comeback and give us some shit
pyramid.
Yeah, I mean, if I was just hadknown nothing else than fucking
stone and rocks and sticks andshit and I just seen that, I'd
be like, damn, the people gotone of our.

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I'm gonna worship this.
It seems like I'm gonna hangout here.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
We're gonna bury our dead kings in there.
Yeah, they think they actually.
They've never found anyactually buried in a pyramid
there was.
There was like tombs orsomething.
There's supposed to be secretpassages inside the pyramid, I
think so.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Yeah, but I don't know if they've.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
That's not a history we may never, ever know.
People probably know what if itwas a zombie apocalypse that
took those motherfuckers out.
You know what if it's in thepermafrost that's melting right
now Like?
There's another scenario.
They have found actual like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Like yeah, in microbes they're like dude, that
would suck.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Yeah, like an airborne zombie virus, we'd be
totally fucked.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
There'd be no way.
I'd like to just be fucked Like.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
I don't even know how .
Maybe some people would beimmune to it.
There would have to be somesome.
There would have to be somepeople that would be immune to
it.
Like it just makes sense,because not everybody got COVID,
not everyone's ever going toget it, so I feel like there's
like an airborne zombie thingwould be kind of the same way.
I really want you to read thestand.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
That is an airborne.
It's an airborne virus, but itpretty much 1% of the population
is immune.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Yeah, but isn't it like very biblical, kind of like
biblically themed, about whosurvives and not.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
I wouldn't say it's biblically themed.
It does have themes of like.
It does.
I mean there's like a goodversus evil and the good kind of
like is obviously kind ofChristian background and you
know like, and they talk aboutGod a little bit.
But it's not like you know, andI would say the antagonist
definitely has like devil likequalities.

(01:21:16):
He's kind of like a mystical,like.
I mean you know how StephenKing is, he always gets a little
bit supernatural I know it'ssuch a solid book man.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
You know what?
You know what?
The problem that always seemsto be in these zombie shows that
they show like the groupinevitably has someone who's
just a fucking asshole or theydon't want to play along and
it's like I'm sorry, but I'mgonna take the shame approach
and just take them out.
Yeah, you can't be havingpeople like that in your group,
Fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Otis, shoot him in the leg and let him Fuck.
Otis.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Fuck Otis dude.
Seriously, like you can't bedoing that, Like you can't, like
you can't shoot Carl, dude, youbastard, no Carl.
I just, you know, like in azombie situation, man, you're
going to have to make some toughfucking decisions Very fast.
Yeah, like, and those decisionscould, yeah, they might, suck

(01:22:11):
Like.
Dude, I didn't want to killthat kid but it's like, well,
you're him, yeah, no, fuck thatkid.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
Yeah, I think that kid.
There are so many, there aregoing to be so many situations
where being the good guy isgoing to get you killed.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Well, I don't think there will be any good or bad.
Well, like, some people willmaybe try to play that game, but
because you have to think, thepreppers, they're going to be
all set, they're going to be,they're going to be dug in, some
will take survivors.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Do you think the preppers, who have had their
entire like arsenal, all theirstockpiles, is showcased?
You know, I think they're goingto be massive fucking targets.
People can figure out wherethey're from.
I don't think most people aregoing to know, because you have
to think like they keep itpretty anonymous on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Oh, ok good.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
Yeah, we got to think like but yeah, but they're
friends and family break down,probably fairly quickly.
Yeah, so how do you know anyonethat knows how to read a fucking
map anymore?
Most people don't.
Yeah, so like that's anothervery simple skill that most
people don't even have.
Like Google Maps isn't workingright, like you can't rely on

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your phones anymore, or likethat's.
You know, maybe satellites, Idon't know Maybe they have to
update, but then suddenly theystop getting the update, so
things are going to start beingoff.
You know, maybe there'ssomebody that actually checks to
make sure and then that shit,or like power, gets cut off so
these satellites aren't, are nolonger communicating.
I don't know.
I don't know the exact scienceof how that all works, but I

(01:23:32):
feel like I lose internet signaljust when it's like fucking
storm out, like, so I imaginethe apocalypse zombie apocalypse
, you hear something just likeyou ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Live for your die hard yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
Is that the Bruce?
The was one of the.
Yeah, I didn't see it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Oh, they literally like.
It's pretty much like a.
It's a technological assault onthe US terrorist and he bit
like they shut down the powerand the internet and they watch
people go fucking nuts.
That's see, that's whathappened?
And that's just.
That's not even.
There's no virus.
There's no like people flip thefuck out Like you.
Take away these modern likecushions we have.

(01:24:10):
We're so goddamn dependent onthat.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
That's what I'm saying.
That's why the zombie thing issuch a great parallel or
metaphor for just Our society,because, you know, we don't need
a zombie virus, just somethingcrazy like that happened.
Yeah, this is years and yearsago.
I was living, let's see, thiswould have been maybe the late
90s, early 2000, or had it beenthe late 90s, because of the

(01:24:34):
whole East Coast lost power, ohwow, buffalo, we look for like
two days in the summer and likedude, people were nuts, like I'm
talking millions upon millionsof cross, multiple states, no
gas, like it was nuts.
And it was just two days andjust people went crazy and like,
can you imagine and like it?

(01:24:54):
During you know the pandemic,people are hoarding toilet paper
and just being crazy, actingfucking crazy.
So then let's think about azombie apocalypse where, whether
they're running after you orthey're slowly scampering after
you, it's like you just up thestakes because now people are
like it's.

(01:25:15):
I think that the terrifyingthing about the zombie thing is
like they're trying to like bite, like attack you you know what
I mean Like they want you, man,they're coming after you and
they're going to like tear youapart.
I think that's the terrifyingpart, like of of anybody, or
nobody wants to get it.
Like, kill me if I get it, youknow, like I don't want to be
one of those things.
What do you think it's like?

(01:25:36):
Do you think there's any kindof consciousness?
If they, if you were a zombie?
yeah, I'd like to think there'dbe any kind of imagine you like
there's like what if you'retrapped?

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Yeah, you're trapped inside.
You just watch yourself eatyour family.
Yeah, that'd be awful.
Yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
That's kind of funny.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
It's like a dormant yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
You're just trying so hard not to be just ripping
your five year old daughter'sstomach open, just eating your
guts.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
You see your dad at your mug.
You're the counter, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
And your wife uses it to smash you in the face as
you're eating her fucking jawyeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
I'm numb man, we're painting such a beautiful
picture.
Oh hey, I forgot to bring upthe whole long time.
I forgot to bring this shit up.
Ok, so guys get this.
Ok.
So the Pentagon and themilitary actually developed this
thing called Conplan 8888.
You can look it up.
It is completely you can readit, because it was basically

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they were trying to teach peoplewho design like what I don't
know what, the counter, like anysort of like natural disaster
or like terrorist attack or likecountry invading, as they
design plans to essentially likecombat any of these scenarios,
and they had to developsomething they couldn't use like
real world countries or events,anything.

(01:27:02):
They wanted to make it wherepeople who were like junior how
the fuck would I even word thiswhole thing?
It's like a fictional trainingscenario.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Yeah, so essentially, yeah, they go into like a very,
very thorough plan about howthey would respond to a zombie
apocalypse.
And they actually covermultiple types of zombies.
I mean, it's like it's it'swild and you can read the entire
world.
It's called again, it's aConplan 8888.
It's like it's four eights.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Conplan 8888.
Yes, and it is people.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
It's.
It's a little bit likeapocalypse.
It's how the government wouldrespond it Ideally, if they
could actually maintainDefinitely martial law.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
I mean, I haven't done a hands down, obviously.
How are you going to keeppeople who are starving in their
fucking homes?

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
They would try.
I don't know.
They did OK.
I know like we outnumber.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
Yeah, yeah, but we're like, we're so used to
authority, though Well, most alot of people just listen.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
That's people who aren't Like watching their
family star, like I'm justsaying like yeah, I still think
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
OK, here's why, here's my.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
I think early on Sure .

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Here's my pushback on that.
So I was watching a YouTubevideo a couple of weeks ago and
this guy's a self-defense guyand he was kind of like he was
basically saying you're onlyever going to respond to a
crisis scenario by by how youtrain.
So he was using.
It was like two or three monthsago.

(01:28:35):
Like that guy in France wentthrough a park and was like
literally stabbing babies andlike you know, mom's always like
I'm going to fucking, I'm goingto turn to a mama.
Well, like none of the moms didanything, like didn't try to
stop them.
One woman just did this reallyweak ass body check and fell and
just screamed like that wasgoing to do something, you know.

(01:28:58):
And then, luckily, some guychased after him, but that was
after the fact.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
You think I get killed or not.
I don't remember, I hope so.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
I don't remember.
But the point is is nobodyreacted the way they probably
thought they did Most panickedand just collapsed.
Yeah, didn't do anything.
So I don't think a lot ofpeople would get violent.
I think that they're going tojust Go sobering, yeah, very

(01:29:29):
pathetically, into the night.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Yeah, um, I think everyone has.
I don't think if you trainyou're going to be able to
utilize it appropriately.
But I don't think Well, butgetting your big, you know going
around getting your fucking.
I can't imagine how fuckingawful what they went through was
.
Yeah, but I mean man likeslowly getting back into a

(01:29:53):
corner like starvation, likePotentially being I mean we're
talking like the situation iskind of under control, like they
they're patrolling the streets.
Never under control.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Yeah, but they're still like they are trying to
implement some kind of martiallaw Because, like I imagine.
I don't come out like, well, youknow.
Again, I guess it depended onhow.
If we're talking like the fastwalk, the fast moving zombies,
then I don't think them thatwould ever has time to really
respond, like there might be.
There might be a response fromlike the police, like special

(01:30:26):
units or something, but I just Idon't.
I just think too many were toolethargic.
I don't think we'd be able tohandle it, man, it happened so
fast and most people are not inshape.
So you got these, these likezombie creatures that can
actually run and jump overfences and like manipulate
doorknobs and stuff like that.

(01:30:47):
That's wild, yeah, man, you'retotally not.
That's not good, like, and Idon't think, I think most people
would just shut themselves in,yeah, and they would starve
because they're like, I'm notgoing out there, I'll just
starve you know, I couldn't makemyself starve to death.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
I don't know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
I would just carry a pistol with one bullet, shoot
myself.
Yeah, dude, totally.
And see, that's tough.
And like when you actuallystart thinking about it like it
seems like the zombie apocalypsewould be super fun, but then
you start thinking about it likeGod, it would kind of suck, man
, because like the good timesare over, like I got to do all
this work, now I got to find myfood and a lot of it's going to

(01:31:29):
go bad because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
You know I mean how many people have a stockpile of.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
All the meat and the meat markets that's going to
spoil all the stuff in the colds, in the cold and freezer stuff.
That's all gone, like that'sgoing to rot, get bad.
And so then you have spamKansas, you know better, fucking
like spam.
Yeah, you know eggs, commercialeggs are going to, they're
going to rot because I mean, youknow they, they rinse them, and

(01:31:59):
eggs, like, when a hand lays anegg, it's already got a
protective barrier over it.
So as long as you don't washthat egg, it'll last for Like a
like a month, maybe longer.
Yeah, they don't go bad.
But when you wash them, likeall these, like the, so those
eggs are immediately going to bebad and they're just going to
rot, you know.
So your food choices are goingto be limited.
If you don't know how to hunt,you're screwed.

(01:32:20):
If you don't know how toprocess an animal, I think
you're in a lot of trouble,right?
If you don't know how manypeople know how to do that, not
no one, like barely anybody.
If you don't know how to garden, you're probably in trouble.
That's the thing, and so that'swhat I think is the best way to
do it.
That's the thing, and so that'swhat I think about with like a
zombie of survival and gettinginto a group of people who have

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different roles.
You need to have people thatare, that have skills, and
you're going to have to makethat hard decision to be like OK
, what did you do?
You worked at a bank.
Ok, what else did you do?
Like I golf on the weekends,yeah, all right.
Well, fuck you.
You kicked that fucker out.
That's dead weight they have.
They have nothing to offer.

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You're going to eat up yourfucking food, man.
If they don't have anymechanical skills and it's no,
it's not enough that we couldhold security and it's like can
you shoot?

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
this yeah, can you even swim?
I mean you can swing a golfclub.
Can you think it's hard enoughto?

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
Yeah, so many things to consider.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Yeah, man, and that's why it's important to have your
own skills.
I mean, I'd like to thinkmedically I'd be able to offer
some sort of yeah, totally yes,I mean the medical skills would
probably be one of the tops.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
Yeah, tell the survivors like, look, I'm a
nurse, so like you're come withus, like we need medical
attention, yeah, but then againI'm not going to have.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
I can do stuff.
I'm not going to have any.
I mean obviously I don't evendo any stitches, I'm not.
I mean I could probably.
I could probably put sutures in, yeah, but like, if you don't
have any medicine, I mean if Ihad like an IV bag, I could run
a gravity drip you know,nobody's going to care.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
They're just going to hear a nurse and like, yep,
you're with us, yeah, and thenyou just fake it.
Yeah, but what I could fake it,dude.
You know, if you're like, oh myGod, these guys are going to
kill me if they find out, I'mnot like I like to just fake it.
I don't know, he was weak,sorry man.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
The stuff makes me shit.
We're not the amputate, dude,I'm sorry.
Like we're taking it off, sorry, bro.
Trust me, dude, you couldn't.
Even even if you took someone'sleg up to be, they'd be dead
and you might as well justfucking get rid of him, Like
unless they have a tourniquet.
But you know what I'm saying.
Like even if you turn a kit forlong enough, you're killing
that tissue.
I mean, someone with one leg islike they are done Like dead
weight.
Didn't Herschel have one leg?
Yes, he did.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Rick had, and he got his fucking head cut off with a
samurai sword.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Yeah right, Did he get his armor leg cut?

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
off, I think Herschel .

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
I thought it was his leg.
Yeah, he got bit, didn't he?
And Rick had to sell off.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
Yes, yes, and then the governor got his fucking
head off.
That's brutal, bro, damnHerschel.
The show was good at that time.
That actor, I think, legitpassed away Herschel, he did For
real.
Yeah, yeah, it was such abummer when he got axed.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Yeah, it's like when he got to kill Herschel like
that, so fucking hurt let's justyou know, the governor was the
best.
The comic books that wassupposed to be Tyrese.
They switched.
Really.
Did you read the comics?
No, I just know the fun facts.
I'm down with my dream.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
I've got a few issues .
I got issue 100 where theyintroduced Negan, and then
that's the same issue he bashesGlenn's brains, in which I was
really surprised that they.
It was pretty, it was supergraphic in the comic and they
managed to kind of capture it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
Yeah, it's like eyeballs hanging.
Yeah, I love you, man.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
Get out of here with your hallmark bullshit.
Fake ass.
Love sentiment.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
Here comes this fucking barbed wire rap baseball
bat on your fucking head.
Was it Lucille?
Lucille, exactly, lucille thebat.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
I made a Lucille.
It's somewhere it might be inmy storage stuff.
Would that be a good zombieapocalypse weapon?

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
Barbed wire is not going to penetrate.
I mean it could.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
Maybe if you just start creating distance, but I
feel like it's super impracticalman.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
Man, what is?
I feel, like I said, like gunsare going to draw, especially if
you're in a densely populatedlike.
If you shoot a gun you might aswell just you're fucked if
they're going to be.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
Okay, here's the thing I think if you're by
yourself, you do everything inyour power to not have to even
interact with a zombie.
Yeah, like rely on stealth andhiding just because you know you
don't know how many are aroundthere.
What if they're kind ofdispersed?
And then they you're fucking,you're fucking went up and like
what if they give off apheromone or something?

(01:36:14):
Wasps like if you kill one,like they give off a pheromone
and the other ones are like oh,our boys in trouble, we're going
to fuck you up now.
Yeah, it's like what if zombieshad something like?

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
that I'd like to think they don't, they couldn't
communicate.
I mean, like obviously we can'tdo that.
I mean, actually we do havepheromones, technically, humans
do have pheromones.
We don't really realize it, wedo, but I don't yeah, like it's
not very sure, but like I would.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
if I was by myself and like I was going on a little
mission, I'd be, I'd just doeverything in my power to not
even worry about it, maybe if Icould get like a knife kill or
something.
But like I'd have to be, Iwouldn't even want to, didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
Yeah, I wouldn't want to take the risk.
Yeah, I mean like one solidmessage You're fucked, yeah, so
I, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
But if you're in a group, boy see, that's the
problem, because then you'rehaving to trust that they're all
going to be quiet and quiet.
Someone always fucks it up,always, always, so you can't
even count on that.
Knock something over.
You know, like you, fuckingidiot, you know that's when you

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push them into the zombies andthen run, shoot them in the leg
man.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Exactly, you fucked up.
You're going to be you're goingto be the distraction.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
There you go.
Sometimes you got to be shamed,you got to be shamed, you got
to be shamed.
I think that's the route to go.
Like that's harsh, yeah, but Ithink when you take the chain
approach, it's like going to bevery harsh in the beginning but
then in the long term you'regoing to have a really solid
core group of people.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
Yeah, a tough group of I mean tough.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
But then if you establish that cut through
attitude like what happens, ifyou like, that could very easily
like backfire you know like,because then it's like a
survival of the fittest, likeit'd be like in a fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
It's already.
It's already survival of thefittest.
True, yeah, yeah, but I got tothink there's going to be,
certainly there's going to be,plenty of groups of people that
cooperate.
Right, I mean, surely you haveto like the, like the Mormons
and the LDS, like I feel likethey definitely cooperate.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
And if a wall built so fast?

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
there's a hole up in their church.
Yeah, like the sci-fi church,fucking Mormon.
Mormonism is a sci-fi religion,bro.
It's literally a sci-fireligion.
It's wild Egypt.
And alien.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
Who was it?
Who was Joseph?
Something?
Joseph Smith, joseph.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
Smith, bro, he liked little girls.
You got chased out of town forthat shit Awesome Pedophile.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
Pedophiles and religion.
Get the fuck out of here.
No way, no way.
It's almost like that's a theme.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
Oh shit, joe Rogan has talked about it.
He's like every fucking cultmember always has sex with
everyone's wives.
It's crazy how that works.
Zero cults have ever existedwithout the fact that their
leader is a guy who's fuckingother dude's wives.
It always goes that way.
It always goes that way.
What kind of cult do you thinkwould pop up from a zombie
apocalypse?

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
First of all, the whispers are fucking stupid idea
.
I hate that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
I think maybe Do you think people would worship the
zombies?
Do you think they would seethem as like, oh, we can't hurt
them, we should be nice to them.
I bet you there would be peoplelike that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
Hopefully, I think, from lack of intellect, I think
they would die pretty fast.

Speaker 1 (01:39:15):
Well they would yeah, but I just I'm saying I think
there's probably people thatwould be like no, but they have
feelings.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
Like you don't think that they're probably worthy.
I'd be like Ben should appearon the corner like facts.
Don't care about your feelings,they will consume you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
That's a pure poppin' up out of nowhere Fucking
yamaka.
God, motherfuckers definitelydying first.
Oh god, shit, he's definitelygetting killed.
Yeah, he's not exactly a prime,he's weak man, he's kind of
weak.
I doubt he's got any survivalskills.
I don't think he can use anyweapons.
At least Lex Friedman's gotjiu-jitsu and he's smart as fuck

(01:39:53):
.
Yeah, he is, so he's probablygot some good mechanical skills
to add to the team.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
Yeah, I mean, there's so much useful shit you could
offer.
I feel like one thing aboutbeing like if you're prepping,
like if people, if a lot ofpeople, know that you have shit,
like you already got a targeton your back, you know like
that's the hard part, yeah, butwho's going to know you have
stuff?
Uh, I mean, if you talk aboutit a lot, you know what I'm
saying.
Like or if you're one of thosepeople who actually still have a

(01:40:18):
little bit of a gut, maybe,like you're not like super in
shape, they're going to see likethis guy Pretty fucking healthy
, where you getting all yourfood from.
Yeah, I think you might need toshare that buddy.
You know like I mean, howeasily would a group turn on you
if they realized you had someextra food stock piled in there?

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
How do you think it spreads worldwide the apocalypse
?

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
Yeah, that depends on how fast they turn, if it's
like World War Z I don't knowBecause didn't someone get bit
going on a plane?
Or something.
Well, yeah, but that's likeseven.
They turn in seven seconds.
It's retardant.
Yeah, that's super fast.
Yeah, I think I kind of likethe slow process.
That makes more sense,obviously, yeah, someone could
ride a plane from one coast tothe other and still be, you know

(01:40:58):
, spread the whole virus thingwithout the whole plane going
down like that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
I wonder how long it would take for them to shut down
transportation once theyrealized it was like it was
getting out of control.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Man, if you were like flying from like a major city
to a major city, I feel likethat would probably be.
You know, someone flips out inthe airport and bites the other.
You know, and you know theplane.
There's already someoneinfected on the way over and
they're just ready to take off.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
They're like dude, we're getting out of here, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
I mean man, I want to .
I got this random hobo fuckingbit me on the way to the airport
.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
You know, I mean that was like in Zombieland,
remember, where he lets the girlin.
Yeah, she's like some homelessguy bit me and he was like, oh,
and then she fucking tries tokill him.
Yeah, that was a great scene.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
But that's a great movie.
He was just so excited, Justlike there's a girl in here.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
Do you think there would be?
You know, I feel like that'swhat a survival would turn into,
like you'd have to find ways tohave fun.
Yeah, Because you know thewalking dead is so serious, so
grim all the time, which getskind of old and lame, and you're
like, okay, dude, peoplewouldn't be like they would
literally find they would behave fun.
Yeah, you'd have to havemotherfuckers be making jokes.

(01:42:07):
I mean like, look, you'd haveto.
You'd have to have a very darksense of humor.
Yeah, man let's make a game outof killing them, pin the tail on
the zombies and shit, and justlike, like in Zombieland, they
stop at the gift shop and likelet's destroy it, like that
would be so much fun, exactly.
And then you go into thegrocery store to go do some
hunting and just kill thezombies in there.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
Yeah, I mean I don't.
I think I would definitely likeany.
Any interaction with thezombies would be have to be
somewhat serious.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
Well, the interactions would have to be.
And sure everyone's gonna besad like, oh, my family's dead,
you know whatever, so iseverybody else's bro, come on
Quick crying about it.
Yeah, like like that's in thepast.
Okay, we're living in thepresent.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
That was 20 minutes ago.

Speaker 1 (01:42:48):
We're living in the present.
How many positive motivationpeople do you think would be
fucking alive, like could be.
Like all right, listen guys,all we got to do, we just, we
just have to think success,positive affirmations, okay, you
can do this, the motherfuckergoing down.
That's how quickly you'll seethat self help shit disappear.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
Oh, man, man, I mean, you know this thing with the
rating though, like if you, ifyou know someone has a bunch of
weapons, like damn, how the fuckdo you approach going at them?
You know, like, I feel likenighttime would be a very
dangerous, especially in like aWell, I see, I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
Didn't zombies sleep in the day or something?
Weren't they less active intheir time?

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
There were some that were like they had some of the
movies.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
Okay, well, let's, let's assume that they keep
human circadian rhythms, sonighttime they're trying to
chill.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
Don't sleep in something like.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
You know what I'm saying, well, but, but, but they
always make zombies like oh,they're going to a mall because
they have these latent memories,okay, yeah, yeah, that's kind
of weird.
Yeah, I mean like the wall.
They always kind of like youknow they're.
Oh, look at the zombiesreturning to like you know what
I mean.
It's like what if they're, Ithink it's black Friday, you
know they're all together I hadto trample each other.
You get bit by the zombie.

(01:43:59):
You, just, you just think aboutthe mall.
No, nowadays it'd be shoppingon Amazon, so I don't even like
hardly even exist anymore.
Yeah, I know it sucks.
So people, I guess we wouldn'thave to worry about it.
It's people just go in theirhouse and click on their
computer and just return it.
Fucking powers up and you'relike walking like bro.
What are you fucking doing?
Just click.

Speaker 2 (01:44:20):
Have you seen Sean of the dead, the end, where he's
playing the games?

Speaker 1 (01:44:22):
and his buddies right there.
That's a good one.
Oh, it's such a classic yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
You know, but the thing I can look at people in
the you know yeah, people in theUK, though, like what are the?
I mean, they literally are justgoing to have a lot of knives
or a lot of yeah, they're goingto have some problems.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):
They're going to steal shit from the government
and like how much fucking I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:44:42):
I don't man most of.

Speaker 1 (01:44:43):
Europe is like that, like most of Europe.
You know, I don't think they'revery.
They might have like shotgunsand hunting rifles, but shotguns
.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
Another thing like I mean, if you're throwing slugs
down and you're fairly accurate,close range, okay, but buckshot
, you know you're not going tohave a guaranteeing, guaranteed
brain destruction, I suppose.

Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
I mean, yeah, even if it's well, because buckshot
isn't necessarily going to killyou.
Yeah, you know, especially ifthey're like the fast moving
zombies, they're just going topiss them off.
Yeah, Like bitch, what did youjust do?
I'm going to chase you throughthis wall just run through the
wall.

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
Yeah, man, I fucking slugged though, like surely if
you landed anywhere, yeah Done.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
You're definitely going to take a limb off.
Yeah, if you're close enough.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
Maybe take a leg off.
What are they going to?

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
I mean, come on, bro, you can get away from that shit
Totally.
I don't know.
I think for me, man, myultimate goal in the zombie
apocalypse like you got to get agood core group of people.
It's like the game dammit dude,I'm going to forget it it's on.
You can download it on XBOXstate of decay.
That's a fun one.

(01:45:50):
I love that game.
I played state of decay to door.
Checking zombies is such a funtime.
But then it's like it's astrategy based game.
Like you got to go out and getsupplies Medical we need medical
, yes, medical character.
If they get hurt, they got arest, then they slow down and
you can't you know what I mean.
And like cars get damaged andthen they run out of gas and
it's like I'd say for asimulator, like that's pretty

(01:46:13):
good, yeah, because you're likeyou're going to have to direct
allocate your resources.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
Allocate your people like what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
Everybody's got roles .
Your different decisions canaffect the outcome of different
things.
And like, I think because inthat zombie survival you're
going to have to have a group ofpeople You're just going to
eventually, you know, maybemaybe your initial escape Say
maybe you don't have a family,you're like me and you're just
like a single person, or you'relike your family's not around

(01:46:41):
and all you have to do is worryabout yourself.
I think in the, I think in theearly stages, that's going to be
like an advantage, Like beingby yourself without having any
attachments.
You're like okay, all I need todo is think about survival.
Once you can be on the city,say, like you know in the
suburbs, because, remember, evenif you get out of the city,
most cities are surrounded bysuburbs, so you're still going
to have to navigate the suburbs,you know, which can be

(01:47:04):
complicated in itself, andinterstates are going to be out
of the question.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
Oh, the interstates totally out of the question.
In cities at least, I meanoutside would be maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:47:11):
But then once you get beyond the suburbs, you start
getting those maybe little lesssparsely populated areas.
You're eventually, I think, atthat point.
That's when you start lookingto join a group.
You know you look for othersurvivors, like you're kind of
beyond the immediate danger.
You know, maybe you've got somesupplies, you're by yourself,

(01:47:33):
so it's like you know it's goingto probably be fairly easy to
go look for shit, for food,because you don't have to worry
about anyone else but yourself.
And then but but yeah, you'redefinitely going to have to,
like you're going to have tofind a group.
You know, I think that's a must.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
What are the odds of me?
I noticed that in the walkingdead they had a jail on them,
Like that's Super convenient butdefensible.
I mean like if you go on a jail, like, what are the odds of
like all those prisoners aregoing to be dead?

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
I'm sure there's a, I think, in walking dead.
I feel like they had escaped orsomething Like they broke down
one of the three.

Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
There's like three or four prisoners there was.

Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
Yeah, there was still some in there.
They're kind of rotted though.
They're pretty rotted though,weren't they?

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
I mean, yeah, they were, there were some alive.
You know, like there was likeremember, those prison Rick had,
rick had.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
That's right.
They were holding them.
Yes, that's right.
I think most of them aregetting the fuck out of there.
I don't think anyone stay inthe prison if they can get out,
yeah.
But then it's like Do they evenopen this?
Like do they lock them down andjust leave them there?

Speaker 2 (01:48:35):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
You know, that's one thingyou're like.
Ok, maybe the government, thepolice, all these people like
these are all people withfamilies and friends they have.
You think they're going tofucking let their family get
fucked up to save you?

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
Not at all.
Fuck you, dude.
Like that's what happened inNew Orleans, you know, after
those major earthquakes orhurricanes, is like a lot of
those cops are like fuck this,yeah, we're we're, you're on
your own.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
My family needs water too.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
Like you know, my family's just as much danger.
So I think you're right.
I think we'd see a bigbreakdown.
Yeah, with, with like thiscivil authority and people like
sorry dude, like like being ramsyou know he was a cop and he
was trying to get to his brotheryeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
Yeah, I mean.
But, like you know, if, like,if your family is like five
states away and they're safe inyour National Guard, ok, maybe
if it's fairly contained.
But, like, for the most part,if the shit's going to move so
fast, I don't think you're goingto be able to mobilize in time
to.
I mean, if it can't becontrolled, like people are
going to go to their families,yes, so I think so OK, so I

(01:49:42):
think it helps.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
You got to find a good group of people to survive
with Right.
You should have at least Ithink I would rather have a
rifle over a sidearm.
You know, if I had to chooseone or the other and I only had
action, some automatic, someautomatic, probably some

(01:50:03):
automatic.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
Yeah, yeah yeah, high cap magazines, would you go
fully kitted?

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
That's a lot of weight.
That's a lot of weight.
I would.
I would strip down only to themost absolutely necessary.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
No, armor, probably not a.
Would you do a tactical rig?
Yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
If I had, if I had acts, I'd probably have play
carrier.

Speaker 2 (01:50:23):
Would you actually put plates in it, though?
Probably, at least for?

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
a little while yeah.
Because you figure out whereespecially you're right,
especially going through thecities and the suburbs, because
you know, I think someone couldjust they might not even be
shooting people, just shootingguns, just in general, you know.
So probably and I definitelyhave a day pack with probably I
would prefer to have like freezedried food or something, or

(01:50:48):
beef jerky.
You'd have to be stuff that'slike super easy to eat, like a
bunch of cliff bars, and youknow, because you gotta think,
man, in that initial, thatinitial part, it's just the only
goal is to get the fuck out.
Yep, like you got to get awayfrom the populations because
that's going to be the biggestrisk.
And then, once you pass thosepopulations, you can then kind
of maybe reassess your supplysituation, maybe think about

(01:51:13):
like, oh, let me hunker down fora day or two to you know, and
then an angle from there, andthen reassess the situation,
probably keep moving.
Would you rush to?

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
store early on if you realized about like a dollar
general, something simple that Iwould.

Speaker 1 (01:51:28):
I would have to get into a position where I was
concealed and I'd watch it for awhile.
Really yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
Just to see.
Yeah, most people are justeverybody sprinting in and out
like you got Nah.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
I would just, I would just leave it, I wouldn't
bother.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
Yeah, no, but how much of me even think about how
much food do you have here Likeshit man?
You know how much like thatwould be worth to some people if
you had like a whole bunch ofcanned food a whole bunch of
freeze dried food.

Speaker 1 (01:51:53):
Yeah, it just seems too risky.

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
It is risky, yeah, I'd probably go like yeah, but
the fucking main, or dollargeneral, how fucking crazy you
think that you're.
I mean, oh here, yeah, yeah,all the guns I'd probably be
fine, yeah, all the guns.

Speaker 1 (01:52:07):
I think people are going to be coming out here.
Yeah, like that's the onlything.
Like St Louis is two and a halfhours away, but I don't see.
I think most people wouldn't beable to get out of there.
They'd get stuck.
And then they'd get stuck inthe suburbs and even if some
manage to trickle down here,they don't know where to go.
They don't know what to fuckingdo down here.
They don't know where to go,like they're not going to just
turn down some random dirt road.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
Oh, this looks like a great place to go.

Speaker 1 (01:52:29):
Yeah, I bet you, there's a ton of supplies down
here and this is some angryredneck shooting you to death.
Yeah, get the fuck out of here,because I promise you the
people down here are going to belike are you from the city?
Get the fuck out.
Yep, locals will help thelocals, but they probably won't
help the city people, man.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
I mean, what are they going to provide Exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
I mean half the people down here are poor as
fuck.
Yeah, like bitch.
What do you think I got,motherfucker?
Yeah, I got fleas and ticks.
That's what we got up in, thismotherfucker.
My kids got headlighted, so I'mhunkering down here, dude, like,
if I'm in the situation I'm in,I'm hunkering down to my place,
you know, because I can huntdeer rabbit.

(01:53:09):
I got plenty of wildlife.
Fuck your dogs.
Your dogs will kill rabbits foryou here, and they have.
Yeah, absolutely, I'll kill therabbits and bring them to me.
So, like I'm already in areally good spot and I would, I
would definitely host people,like I know, like if strangers
came, I probably would kill themimmediately.
I'm just, I just don't thinkit'd be worth the risk.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
A single guy Looks like he's starving, I'd kill him
.
Yep A kid, he was a little bitlike I don't care who they are.

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
Dude, I would definitely not want to take care
of a kid, so that kid's on hisown.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
Maybe I won't kill him.
You don't know who's scouting.
You don't know who's.

Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
Well, that's true, but I'm not taking any chances,
man.
I'm like fuck that, there's noroom for niceness here, like I
only got enough food for me.

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
This is making me want to buy more guns and long
like long term food supplies.

Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
Well, the thing with that is, though, like if you
have to leave us a place, youcan't carry all those guns with
you.
Just, you know it's like yeah,but in the hunker down scenario.

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
You know the hunker down yeah.
And I load everything in myvehicle and go out to where I
would plan on going Right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
Um take everything.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:54:16):
I mean, I would assume, when you can get.
Well, I guess even like, let'ssay, from Walnut Ridge, you'd
probably be okay.
Yeah, cause Walnut Ridge isexactly a big town.

Speaker 2 (01:54:25):
Yeah, but I mean I just.
I mean I live in an apartment,so you know, I would not want to
be.
I would not want to be whereI'm at.

Speaker 1 (01:54:31):
Yeah, but I think people living in smaller cities
have a better chance of gettingout, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Plus, I mean, what the fuck is around Walnut Ridge?
I mean, unless someone was likeit's just flat, feels, yeah,
it's fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
Rice fields, rice fields, nothing it's stuck in
the mud over there, dude?
Yeah, but again, all the peoplefrom the cities are going to be
looking for places like this.
Yeah, and I think you're goingto see like clashes between city
people and country people,along with zombies, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
Yeah, we got the ammo , buddy God.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
There's so many things to think about, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55:02):
It's still, it's very I feel like it was very
entertaining.
It's like it was good.
Yeah, it was good.

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
What are we at, man?
I think we're over two hoursnow.

Speaker 2 (01:55:11):
But you didn't think this episode was going to go
that far, did you no?

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
It was good though.
Yeah, but there's so much tothink about with zombies, it's a
ridiculous thing to talk about.
But like hey, man, you neverknow.
Because it's like how would youreally react to a scenario,
like a situation like that and Iyou know it's fun to talk about
, but when you, I think, whenyou really think about it,
you're like it would reallyfucking suck man.
It really would man, Becauseeverything you know is going to
change, People are dead and like, like you're probably going to

(01:55:38):
have to kill a lot more, right?
And it's like do you have, doyou have that switch?
Yeah, like, do you have theswitch to do that man?
It's like, and if you don't,then you're, yeah, you're going
to be compromised, it's going tobe a problem?

Speaker 2 (01:55:50):
Yeah, I'm going to switch my.
I just thought about this.
Like on my rifle, I keep aholographic on there, but I'm
going to switch that out.
I'm going to eat iron sights.
That's battery.
The battery's going to fuckingdie.

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
Yes, and shooting with iron sights, that's a skill
Takes practice.

Speaker 2 (01:56:02):
I prefer, I much prefer.
I mean you could use scope.

Speaker 1 (01:56:04):
I mean that's fine, but I mean In the Marine Corps
we had to qualify on iron sightsat 500 yards.
Wow, yeah, and how big of atarget.
Fucking tiny.
I mean it's a big target 500yards is very small, yeah, super
, like the size of a rabbit.
Oh my God, yeah, so we do.
It was a hundred, 300, 500, Ibelieve, is what the distances

(01:56:28):
are, because from the 300, wehave to do standing and kneeling
.
I'm assuming 500, you're prone,prone.

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
Yeah, and then the 100, actually the 100 might have
been kneeling or standing, Imean and then I think maybe the
300 kneeling God, it's been solong.
But yes, there's all theseskills you're going to want to
have.
That's why it just look, itpays to know stuff.
It pays to know how to dothings.
It pays to be an asset.

(01:56:57):
It's like, oh, I talk aboutbeing an asset In a zombie
apocalypse.
You better be an asset, becausenobody wants liabilities around
you.
You can't provide something.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
No man, nobody can give you a fuck.
You're like get the fuck out ofhere.

Speaker 1 (01:57:10):
You can't cook your food if you can't fix critical
things like generators.

Speaker 2 (01:57:16):
Cooking food, you're going to use it in a fire, right
, it's just to start a fire,right, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:57:25):
Or if you cook food that's going to smell,
especially that's going toattract people and it might
attract the wrong kind of peopleyeah, man Hunger.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
People smell food, smell fucking steak cooking.
They're like, yeah, that soundspretty good.
I might just take that.
I don't smell like no humancooking Molotov cocktail.
That's a great one.

Speaker 1 (01:57:41):
You know.
The thing about that, though,is like if you catch a zombie on
fire, it's not going to dieright away, it's going to walk
around on fire.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
If it catches all your shit on fire.

Speaker 2 (01:57:50):
Would you burn bodies just to be sure, or not, if
they're around your homestead?

Speaker 1 (01:57:56):
Yeah, probably.
I have a designated bodyburning area because, dude, it's
stink.
I think I'll bad down smell.

Speaker 2 (01:58:03):
Yeah, I would just burn it just for that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
Yeah, if you burn it it might smell kind of bad, like
charred flesh.
You might get kind of hungry,but it's better than smelling
rotting flesh.
Rotting flesh is dude.
It's the worst In just thatsummertime.
You're like bloated bodies andyou're like you should probably
burn it.
Yeah, reduce, and you know thatreduces incidents of any kind
of disease occurrence.

Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
Well, if you lose, you have to burn If you lose,
you'd have to have if you werein any sort of building and you
were trapped in there.
You'd have to have some sort ofwaste if you couldn't go
outside much.
Oh yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
How do they handle that and walk in dead?
Do they just gloss over thatlike everything else?
Yeah, Like they gloss over,like how they get gas and stuff
Trash bags.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
You actually have trash bags and throw it in a
certain location.

Speaker 1 (01:58:50):
But yeah, I mean like what I mean?
People who get.
Yeah, you got to think aboutthe waste you're creating.
Yeah, because you got to think,like toilets, they all rely on
electricity.
You know, pump water back intothe tank, you wouldn't be able
to flush any mean.

Speaker 2 (01:59:05):
You could flush but you wouldn't be able to Right.
You'd flush but I wouldn't befilled back up when the power
goes out and you'd be fucked.

Speaker 1 (01:59:09):
So here's a little.
Here's a little survival tip.
Say, you're out and about andyou're like fucking, you're in
the suburbs and they're deserted.
Now and it's deep into theapocalypse and it's not looking
good and you need water.
Just water tanks.
People's water tanks in theirhouse Yep, there's going to be
water.
Hot water heaters typically 40gallons Yep, it's going to be
water.

Speaker 2 (01:59:30):
If you are in an area where something is starting to
happen, I would immediately fillup your bathtub.
So, most maximum capacity.
Yes, not use it.
Yep, extra water.
Yeah, there you go.
There's another.
How many gallons?

Speaker 1 (01:59:45):
How many gallons of tub can?
I'll probably quite a bit.
Yeah, hundreds, maybe 100.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
Yeah, 100 gallons.
Yeah, there you have that.
Typically it's good for cookingand drinking to have, I think,
at least a gallon a day perperson.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
Yeah, so here's.
I can tell you so when I wasliving on the road, I boondocked
most of the time, so I'd be offfor weeks, and a seven gallon
water cube lasted me for about aweek, so about a gallon a day.
I could get away with it If youwere, even if you and I was

(02:00:18):
even sharing with my dogs too.
Yeah, so that's actually.
That's pretty, pretty fuckingsolid.
Not bad about a gallon gallonand a half.

Speaker 2 (02:00:23):
So if you're rationing, you can probably get
away with a lot less A lot yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:00:27):
So I think it's going to be discipline.
I think you could go pretty far, but yeah, there's all kinds of
little hacks, yeah, like watertank.
Yeah, to make rain collectionsystems too.
Definitely You'll need afiltration system for sure,
because I mean sand charcoalsocks they make.

(02:00:50):
But or you can get a life straw.
I got life straws all over.
I have actually looked at those.
I have.
I've got the classic life straw, so if anyone doesn't know the
life straw, you can literallyjust drink water out of a puddle
.
It's.
They give them out in Africanstuff.
They're really, really cool.

Speaker 2 (02:01:08):
I was about to joke about that.
So they actually do get inpeople in Africa.

Speaker 1 (02:01:10):
Yeah, they buy one and they just give that to them,
yeah, and because it'santi-microbial, parasitic and
all that stuff.
And then I've got a galloncatch bag that I can just hold a
bunch of water in it and thatfilters out, so a life straw.
Oh, what are those littletablets they put into it to
iodine?

Speaker 2 (02:01:30):
Yeah, it's iodine tablets.
You can use that to purify yourwater.

Speaker 1 (02:01:32):
I think so.
Yeah, I think it's iodine.
It is Because, like you, youcan't assume you're going to
always be able to boil yourwater.
Yep, yeah.
I mean nowadays I mean dudethere's so many contaminated
water sources Like that's aproblem.

Speaker 2 (02:01:46):
I mean there's cities that have I know they have
gravity, like water towers andstuff, but eventually that's
with no one refilling shit.
It's going to run out, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:01:54):
You're going to be fucked.

Speaker 2 (02:01:55):
Yeah, and that's one thing I mean, like you are never
going to stop needing a largesurplus of water, and no matter
how many gallons you have, it'sjust food, I mean everything.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
Like you got to think , if you're going to hold out on
this apocalypse, you betterhave a really solid, very
long-term plan, because it'sgoing to have to last the rest
of your life.
Yeah, 50 pound bag of rice.
I got to live this plan out thenext 50 years here, like let's
get this, let's get this.
Shit, I can't rely.
Like you know, none of the cornis going to regrow because it's

(02:02:25):
all GMO.
Fucking, one shot seed, youknow.
So it's not like like shit,shit, I can't grow back.
Thanks, what's that?
What's that company?
Oh, monsanto, thanks, monsantoBear, monsanto, purdue, all
those fuckers.

Speaker 2 (02:02:40):
And they say that if you were, if we were to go to a
random planet in order toactually repopulate and regrow
the human race, like completely,it would take 99 people to like
actually read it.
I mean because if you take amind, if you just take your
family out there, it's like,well, we're waiting to die
unless we, you know, get a lotof Menevon and you know you get
kind of weird.
So I think we're repopulating,yeah, you know, so that I could

(02:03:03):
say that take, say I take agroup of 99, 97, something like
that people in order to actuallyunrelated people to actually
repopulate a planet or populateplanet.

Speaker 1 (02:03:13):
You know, that was the unique thing about 28 weeks
later, or 28 days later is atthe end of it.
Remember how the plane fliesover and you realize like, oh,
it must just be isolated toGreat Britain.
You know, and I even in thesecond one, so I'm saying it's
like, if it happens, say thatthe center was here, it's
probably going to be China,Cause, let's be honest,

(02:03:34):
everything comes out of China.
But like China, China, theChinese and you can buy a China.
So you got to think, like whatif it originates somewhere in
the U?
S?
And like how does it, how doesit cross the continent, you know
?
So what?
Yeah, so we'd have to getbitten by some random effect.

Speaker 2 (02:03:55):
And we destroy this entire side of the planet that
we could make.
Let it migrate.
I don't think it would.
Canada be a place to be reallyhard to spread.
I mean they're so minimallypopulated All the cities would
be fucked still but yeah, canadawould be a good place to go.
Mexico, canada be good, mexicomight be all right.
Yeah, I mean, there's so muchdesert.

Speaker 1 (02:04:15):
You know very dry, yeah, and you know they.
Probably the corpses wouldprobably desiccate faster, like
zombies would probably dry upfaster.
And those they're baking outand drawing, yeah, literally, if
we're talking classic zombies,if we're talking the pissed off
ones, like they don't matter,they'll just be sprinting
through the sand.
Oh, you know what?
Another one of my favoritezombies is a resident evil, the

(02:04:36):
one where they're in the desert.
Ooh, I've not seen that one.
I think it was revelation wherethey're, like they're going out
to Vegas.
That's my favorite one, really.
Yeah, that was a good one.
Like cause they're holding upin an underground bunker or like
umbrella is.
And then what's the girl's name?
Mia Jojovich.
Yes, she's with a group ofsurvivors and they're like in

(02:04:56):
semis and like they got a gastruck tanker and they're all
like played it out and Kind oflike Mad Max yeah.
Yeah, yeah, totally like.
It's totally Mad Max.
Yeah, well, you know, residentevil they're the cheesiest
movies they really are.
God, they're so awful.
But that one was fun to watch.
That was the only fun one Iliked watching.
They're cheesy fun, you know.
Yeah, like the storyline gotall weird and like there's

(02:05:18):
actually a hundred million of me.
Like there's a ton of copies ofthe girl, right.
Yeah, there's like clones ofher.
I cannot tell you have watched.
Yeah, there's like all kinds ofclones over and stuff.
And it's like all right, causethat's what that one was
tackling, though I think it wasrevelation, cause it was there
experimenting with clones of thegirl, and then she's got like

(02:05:39):
psychic powers and stuff andyeah, man, they went off the
rails on that.
Didn't this start off withzombies?
Yeah, it's supposed to.
Yeah, but all right, what else?
What else was with zombies, man?

Speaker 2 (02:05:52):
I don't know, man, we have hit a lot.
I mean I was kind of going intothe book just a minute ago.
I mean we've had a lot ofdifferent stuff.
Yeah, horses, god damn, Ididn't think about that.
That might be pretty solid.
You mentioned bicycles, manhorses, you gotta feed them.

Speaker 1 (02:06:05):
You gotta feed them.
And then who knows how to ridea horse?
Like you gotta know how to ridea horse.
I don't like horses.
I don't know how to ride ahorse.
There's a certain way you gottaapproach them, yeah, like I
just don't see horses being verypractical For those for those
Sorry.
I think a bicycle is the bestit's.
It's.
Look, dude, it's got everythingyou need.
It's got it's.
It's got your ability to takeyou somewhere.

(02:06:27):
Yeah, you gotta use your weakass bitch legs, but like, get
over it, you know what I mean.
It doesn't require any fuelother than you.
It doesn't really.
You know, it's not going tobuck you off of it.
You know what I mean?
Like in a fairly simple tooperate, all I got to do is
pedal and hit the brakes, andthis I mean.
I just think it's.
I think it's just a.

(02:06:47):
It's kind of a no brainer Ifyou're in a very congested area
and you got to get out fast andget a bicycle.

Speaker 2 (02:06:51):
Yeah, people can catch you on a bicycle.
I feel like if you're hauling,ass now.

Speaker 1 (02:06:56):
But I mean, yeah, If you're hauling ass, not really,
but I think yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:06:59):
I mean there's always that risk, but it's like I mean
, I think about one of the moreiconic scenes.
Okay, the walking dead starts,rick's trying to find people.
He rides that horse.
He does ride the horse and hejust turns a corner and boom.
I remember that, yeah.
He gets bucked off or whatever.
Yeah, I mean how.

(02:07:20):
If, like you, run intosomething like that, I think
horses.

Speaker 1 (02:07:22):
Well, I mean they're practical if you live out where
we're at.
I mean they spook I mean, yeah,they spook.

Speaker 2 (02:07:26):
If you guys want to know how to approach a horse,
guys make sure it's like fairlywild and approach it directly
from behind.
Okay, guys, yeah, and thenyou'll be great.
Okay, they love it when you dothat.
So I guess I might kick in thehead here, but you know, it's
what happens, yeah, they listen.

Speaker 1 (02:07:42):
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm not.
I'm not big on the horses.
Most people have access tohorses, no.

Speaker 2 (02:07:45):
I don't know.
They're just, they're soexpensive and it's like I have a
four wheeler I mean I wouldn'tbe good at on the bike.

Speaker 1 (02:07:50):
I think a motorcycle would be like the next best bet.
Oh, that's like that.
But again.
Most people are going to have amotorcycle and it's not like.

Speaker 2 (02:07:56):
Man, you can, we get it out of traffic.
You can keep a bike in yourapartment.

Speaker 1 (02:07:58):
Yeah, you can just shoulder that fucker and run
down the stairs and just get thehell out of there, you know.
But I think a motorcycle ispretty good.
It's like it's up there becauseit's small.
Have a dirt bike, man, you cantake it off.
Well, I got my Yamaha XT250,man, it's a dual, dual purpose
bike, you know.
I mean, it's a dirt bike justwith headlights and that's it.

(02:08:19):
That's so cool, man.

Speaker 2 (02:08:21):
I've always wondered.
I had a dream about riding oneof those last fun dude.
Yeah, actually, I'm sellingmine.
Yeah, how much, bro?
I don't know, I've never beenlike 1500, 1600.

Speaker 1 (02:08:31):
200.
Take it, it's a nice bike, it'sa good shape man.

Speaker 2 (02:08:36):
I've never.
I've never rode before.
It's something that justintrigued me.
They're fun.

Speaker 1 (02:08:41):
Yeah, it's just the 250 is too small, it's just
doesn't.
I see you as a Harley guy, Ijust the 250 is really fun.
I got it for was living on theroad, but it's just underpowered
.
Like good luck driving on thehighway with it because it
struggles to do 70.

Speaker 2 (02:08:57):
This is Christ, how fast you fucking drive.

Speaker 1 (02:09:00):
Well I, it was my only other form of
transportation on the road.
I'd have to get on the highway.
I mean it's 85 miles an hourSouth Dakota so.
South Dakota.
Oh my God, all out West.
Yeah, dude, it's like 80 milesan hour, the speed limit once
you're out there.

Speaker 2 (02:09:14):
I've seen 70.
I've never seen 80.

Speaker 1 (02:09:16):
I've seen 75.
85 by 80.

Speaker 2 (02:09:18):
I've ran 80 plenty of times yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09:20):
Typically man out in South Dakota and Wyoming and
shit like 80.
Damn dude, it's wide open.
It's a flat, wide open highway.
It's how most interstates are,but out there it's just it's.
I know that's a different levelMore, yeah, dude, like it's
mind bogglingly flat.
You just see forever feels likeforever.

Speaker 2 (02:09:41):
Yeah, that's right.
That's why I believe in theflat earth, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:09:45):
That's a price, mitchell.

Speaker 2 (02:09:47):
Like you go like any.
Bravo kicks in the door likemotherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (02:09:50):
There's a 10th planet .
That's why I named it 10thplanet.
What Planet?
Noboru Nooburu, the planet thatsupposedly the Anunnaki live on
, and it only comes in or overto every.

Speaker 2 (02:10:07):
I just heard about the Anunnaki earlier.

Speaker 1 (02:10:09):
Yeah, well, they're in the Epic of Gilgamesh.
They're just, they're like acabal of gods.
And then people are like, oh myGod, aliens Like okay, dude.

Speaker 2 (02:10:18):
Holy, I was watching a video that was about if you've
ever heard of the guy TarenTowered.
No, he's an actor, right, he'splayed.
He played the original Iron man.
He's the the African Americanguy.

Speaker 1 (02:10:29):
Okay, yes, yeah, yeah .

Speaker 2 (02:10:33):
And you know, apparently he is like a
self-proclaimed scientist, he'sbeen trying to prove.
I'm a self-proclaimed scientist,exactly, and that's, you
identify the scientist.
So he's been trying to provefor like 10 years that one times
one is two.
He has a whole.
He has a whole, fucking likedude, this guy has a whole.
They caught terriology.
Okay, it's like actually athing.

(02:10:55):
And he and he referenced heactually released a paper about
some of this stuff and in thepaper like an actual supposed to
be a research like scientificpaper he talked about the on a
knocky man.

Speaker 1 (02:11:09):
They thought that's where 10th planet comes from.
That's a while.
I had no idea Eddie Bravo'sinto that shit, so that's why I
called 10th planet.
I know it's a huge conspiracytheory buff, but I didn't know
that's the name behind.
Because I want to say Joe Rogantalked about one of those
episodes and he told he gave himthe name of that.
Well, him and Joe Rogan arelike super close.
I know I've seen your episodes.
Yeah, like, joe Rogan was therewhen he beat one of the

(02:11:33):
Gracie's.
Oh, you know, he wasn'tsupposed to yeah Down at ACC.
Yeah, yeah, and that was inBrazil, I think, and rebate them
and then and then yeah, andthat because, like Eddie Bravo
is the one who got Rogan thesmoke weed.
Yeah, like, which is hilarious.
I know that.
I think Rogan just did italways.
He's like no, it wasn't untillike mid 30s he started fucking

(02:11:54):
smoking and shit.

Speaker 2 (02:11:55):
Crazy.
It's like look at me, he'sfucking chilled out now.
Yeah, he is.

Speaker 1 (02:12:00):
Yeah, the dude's 56 and he looks great man.
Like you know, he's got allthis influence on people's shit
on him sometimes.
But yeah, I think it could be adick sometimes.

Speaker 2 (02:12:08):
Yeah, that's how it goes, man.
I think we probably make betterpodcasts.

Speaker 1 (02:12:14):
That'd be nice, right ?
Yeah, I think we get thebiggest name guests.

Speaker 2 (02:12:19):
Yeah, I think we get Chuck Norris coming on next week
.
Chuck Norris, we're going toteach him how to be tough.
Yeah, I think he wasn'tactually a pretty big proponent
of Jiu-Jitsu when it first cameover.
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:12:31):
He's the one who invited like a bunch of the
Gracie's up to the States.
That's so cool, yeah.
And then he yeah, because Ithink Hennard talks about the
story but yeah, chuck Norris wasinto Jiu-Jitsu like early in
the seventies, way into it.
That's so crazy, yeah, yeah.
And then then I think, likeJocko, jocko got into in the
early nineties I want to say heactually got in hooked in with

(02:12:55):
like Hicks and Gracie.

Speaker 2 (02:12:58):
Do you know?
Chuck Norris was in thehospital recently.

Speaker 1 (02:12:59):
Yeah, Really yeah.
Well, dude, he's like he's inwhat mid to late eighties.
Now he's up there.
He's still in good shape,though Chuck Norris would fuck
up zombies like it was justnothing.

Speaker 2 (02:13:13):
He would even use a weapon.
The zombies would run away.
They would, they would run,they would bite him and after
three days they might die.
Finally, right.

Speaker 1 (02:13:20):
No, they would just turn into humans again, like
Chuck Norris is the cure.
They bite him and they're likeoh, thank you so much, chuck.
Finally.
Yeah, or Chuck or Chuck bitesthe zombies and the zombies are
running away, like Jesus Christ,get him away from the love he
was spread.
He's the 28 days later.
Like you see a horde coming atyou like dude fuck, and the

(02:13:42):
behind him is Chuck Norris justfucking coming after him.
Get the fuck over here.
I'm not done.
He's like Scorpion, get overhere.

Speaker 2 (02:13:51):
He's just lassoing him and bringing him in.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:13:54):
Fuck yeah, so any other zombie stuff?

Speaker 2 (02:13:57):
No, I kind of I glanced at the book a little bit
.
I'm sure there's some otherrandom shit the book's got like.
The book's got like thesiphoning fuel and all that
other stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:14:04):
Yeah, I mean I, you know we didn't really get to
need to get too deep into it.

Speaker 2 (02:14:08):
No, dude, I think we did.
I think we did good man.

Speaker 1 (02:14:11):
Look everyone, if the zombie apocalypse happens.
I'm just telling you now, mostof you are fucked.

Speaker 2 (02:14:15):
Yeah, you're just going to be honest.
I mean, you can, you can startprobably fucked.

Speaker 1 (02:14:18):
Yeah, you can start, but you're probably not even
going to get out of your house.
This is totally this is goingto happen, so I hope you're
especially if you live in a citylike just good luck, yeah,
don't come here.

Speaker 2 (02:14:29):
Yeah, dude, you're on your own now.
Yeah, if you start gettinghungry, door Dash will not save
you.

Speaker 1 (02:14:35):
No, the government, they will not save you either.

Speaker 2 (02:14:39):
So, even with that plan, even though, one is coming
to save you.

Speaker 1 (02:14:43):
Because that's the thing now.
I was like no one's coming tosave you, you better be ready.
Well, who said that?
When did that become a thing?
There's this guy named GregAnderson on Instagram.
He was like a cop and he quitduring the COVID because he
wasn't going to enforce any ofthe stuff.
And like he's got a pretty big,he's a jujitsu guy, he's a
black belt, I believe.
Really cool dude, but like he'slike, his thing is like no

(02:15:06):
one's coming to save you, youknow.
So you better be prepared andit's too bad of advice.
Greg Anderson, yep, onInstagram and he's got.
He actually just built a bigjujitsu place up in Washington.
He lives off in the woods.
I would have decided to vacationup to Washington.
See that that's a group ofpeople you'd want to hold up
with, like guys, like he's got anice thing going on up there.

(02:15:26):
They got a bunch of fuckingsavage people ready to survive
and hunt and live off the land.
Like that's the scenario tohave.
Really, that'd be best.
Yeah, get yourself.
Find yourself some Amish.
Oh, dude, like I'm an Amish nowI'll convert.
I'm good, let's fucking, let'sall milk the cows.

Speaker 2 (02:15:44):
That's the joke.
I was trying to say I'll churnthe butter Like they'd have.
They'd have walls built beforeit even got like a day in.

Speaker 1 (02:15:49):
Fuck you.
Well, that was like theAlexandria had walls built
around it.
Remember, in Walk and Dead?

Speaker 2 (02:15:54):
Yeah, they had a bunch.
You needed like a good.
I mean, how would you even weld?
I mean you could use oxsettling the.
I mean like a, okay, a cuttingtorque.
I don't know how you would runan electronic welder.
I don't either.
That's a lot of power, exactlyLots, lots of power.
Well, I mean actually a lot ofthem are.
They have generator welder duoso you could run it on gas and

(02:16:16):
you could weld.
Yeah, it'll go quickly, thoughyeah, I'm thinking how long
hours last it's got to berefilled like every like maybe
four or five hours, maybe that'sgood.
Yeah, it's a very small thing,I mean.
And we actually we keep fueltanks at our house that we keep
like they're like hundredhundred twenty gallon tanks.

(02:16:37):
So you know, you could like,theoretically, power long enough
to weld a fair amount of stuff.
You know, interesting Wallsaround the whole city?
Probably not, probably not.
Yeah, that's probably not goingto happen.

Speaker 1 (02:16:49):
Does look like a lot of labor, yeah, I know, and with
nobody there, like who the fuckdid this Exactly?
They're not all gone All thiswork and they just fucking.
They're small, fucking likejust gone.

Speaker 2 (02:17:01):
Yeah, dude, you need like a whole fucking
construction team just to yeah,yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:17:06):
Guys, this perfectly placed city with walls around it
, let's take it over Giant assgate.
Luckily there's no one.
Oh wait, maybe there werepeople and there was people in
Alexandria.

Speaker 2 (02:17:14):
Yeah, there was a bunch of zombies, right?
No, whole community peoplethere was, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:17:19):
I'm just remembering, because Rick was upsetting the
balance a little bit.
That's right.
That's right, yeah, so I don'tknow, man, you all better be
ready to go through zombieapocalypse.

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We appreciate your support.
Thank you guys very much.
And yeah, you know it's.
We haven't uploaded in a fewweeks, but oh well, that's all

(02:18:10):
good.

Speaker 2 (02:18:10):
Oh, do we not get last week's episode?
No, it was fucked, man, youcould have done the audio though
.

Speaker 1 (02:18:14):
It was fucked.
No, the audio was fucked too.
What happened to audio Dude?
It was just bad so much itwasn't worth it.
Yeah, so I scrapped it.
Okay, it'll be all good, lovethis one out.

Speaker 2 (02:18:28):
So we'll hope you guys enjoy it.
Man.
Yeah, all right, sweet, allright.

Speaker 1 (02:18:33):
Well, until next time Catch you guys later.

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