June 3, 2024 • 40 mins
Discover how the subtle power of energy can profoundly influence our lives. Marilisa and Jeremy start with their journeys, revealing how both positive and negative energies have shaped their paths. We uncover the mysteries of Reiki, a Japanese healing technique, and explore its life-changing benefits. Tying in Joe Dispenza's groundbreaking work on mindfulness and meditation, we discuss the profound impact of our internal dialogues and the holistic connection between mind, body, and spirit.
Meet Rylin Rossano, a remarkable 17-year-old who has channeled her struggles into a mission to heal trauma through kindness and energy. Rylin’s story is not only inspiring but a testament to the power of gratitude and the importance of giving back. We touch on various healing methods, including Qigong and mediumship, and delve into the often misunderstood world of CBD. We also discuss the adventurous world of alternative therapies, like ice baths and cryotherapy, reflecting on their potential benefits and the apprehensions surrounding them.
Balancing productivity and a peaceful mindset in our fast-paced Western society can be challenging. Marilisa and Jeremy share their personal routines that keep them grounded, such as morning silence and walking meditations. We explore cultural differences, noting how countries like Japan seamlessly integrate practices like Reiki into daily life. The conversation rounds out with insights on grounding oneself, nurturing the inner child, and the power of positive thinking and manifestation. Learn practical tips to achieve and sustain the elusive flow state and attract opportunities by staying present and positive.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Hemp Del Soul podcast.
All health, no high.
Here's your host, Maril isaLawless.
Jeremy Wolf (00:14):
Hello, hello everyone, and welcome back to
another episode of the Hemp DelSol podcast.
Co-host here, Jeremy Wolf,joined by your host, Marilisa
Lawless.
Marilisa, I say this all thetime, I will say it again it's
always a pleasure being in yourcompany.
Marilisa Lawless (00:32):
I just enjoy being with you.
You have a good energy yourself, you know, and it's not just
about the company, it's aboutwhat we put out to the world.
So I'm grateful to be here withyou.
Jeremy Wolf (00:42):
Yes, indeed, and speaking of energy, that's the
topic of conversation for todayHealing and energy, something
that I say this all the time onthe North Side of 40.
Recently, I really got intothis whole space and it's been
fascinating.
My personal journey of growthand personal development has
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been real.
So let's talk a little bitabout energy healing, and I know
you mentioned you've beenlistening to Joe Dispenza a lot.
So let's get into this.
Set the stage for us and I knowthis is what you do right With
Hemp Del Soul, Crystals Del Soul, the Transformation Project.
It is all about basically usingthe tools we have available,
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using our own bodies.
We are the medicine.
What can we do within ourselvesto be better, live a good life
and put good energy out thereand attract the things we want
in our life?
So set the stage for us.
What do you have on your mind?
Marilisa Lawless (01:41):
So where I am in my life, is that I understand
, because I guess if you're onthe north side of 40, I'm on the
south side of 70.
I'm 62.
Jeremy Wolf (01:55):
So you know looking good, I might thank you very
much.
Marilisa Lawless (02:00):
As I move through my life, I look at how
the energy of the people aroundme has impacted me in a positive
or negative way, and that thepeople I choose to have in my
life.
On a personal level, I'vereally we talk about things,
(02:21):
about how we actually feel andthe things we pick up from each
other, what we sense from eachother, and in my professional
world I realized that I've donea lot of training in energy
healing, so I've been exposed toReiki for 30 years now and
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Reiki is a Japanese form ofenergy healing and we actually
have a Reiki circle here twice amonth now.
Jeremy Wolf (02:55):
You need to send me information about when you have
that, because I've heard allsorts of things about Reiki
healing.
I don't know that I've everbeen involved with that, and
that's something that I do wantto explore.
So please don't forget, send meover some information.
Marilisa Lawless (03:09):
Absolutely I will, and generally we have it
in the in the office, because wedo have a large space.
So we have a circle and we havethat on the second and fourth
Thursdays of the month.
For the month of June we'reswitching it up just to the
first and the fourth becauseI'll be away and the person who
does it normally on the secondit's her birthday, so she's not
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going to be here on the 13th.
So we're doing it June 6th andthen we'll do it again on the
fourth Thursday.
Seating's limited, so we dotell people to reach out to us
to reserve a seat.
What does that look?
Jeremy Wolf (03:45):
like and I'm going to experience, but what is one
to expect?
I think I say this all the time.
Right, like for the most of themasses out there, they hear a
term like Reiki healing andimmediately it's like that
woo-woo, the woo-woo, knee-jerkreaction comes up.
It's like oh, what is that?
Like energy healing, but it'slike a healing, but it's like
but I think most people havethat misconception about it it's
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like what?
What is one to expect if theycame into a Reiki circle?
What does that look like?
What does that encompass?
Marilisa Lawless (04:11):
The room is set up.
There's eight chairs maximum.
The person who is performingthe Reiki is on the outside of
this circle and she'll walkaround.
She asked for permission totouch ahead of time.
She usually will have incensenot incense, but essential oils
like lavender and things likethat in the room.
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The lighting is low.
It's a very calm experiencephysically and what they?
She tells you not to expectanything.
Don't have expectations, justallow to come whatever comes.
And so she'll move aroundbehind each person and every
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single person.
She'll say something.
She'll, you know, give you ahug, she'll touch you, she'll,
you know, just doing differentparts of the body and how we
heal.
She's really fine-tuned or intune with other people's energy.
So it's sort of a sampling of aReiki session, because she does
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do individual sessions here.
You know, private sessions.
This is a way to be exposed towhat energy healing looks like
and feels like.
Everyone has a differentexperience, and yet there's not
been one person in the monthsthat we've been doing this.
We've been doing it sinceFebruary.
No one has said, oh, thatsucked.
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I was like, wow, that wasreally interesting.
The things you said were spoton.
The emotions that I felt wereincredible.
So I haven't had anybody haveany kind of a negative response
on any level.
The thing to know is that inJapan, this is part of medical
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school training, because theyunderstand that in order to heal
the body, you need to heal theenergy that's attached to the
body.
So everything is about mind andbody, soul, spirit.
It's all connected, we're allconnected.
So when we move into, like JoeDispenza, and we start looking
at what people do in thiscountry well, actually he's all
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over the world and how theyoffer healing, how he offers
healing, and it's generallythrough meditation, everything
about meditation and mindfulnessand changing the internal
dialogue.
There's so many differentcomponents.
I've got a lot going on in myhead right now.
Like one of the books I'mreading is called the
(06:42):
"Untethered Soul.
Right now, like one of thebooks I'm reading is called the
untethered soul and it is abouthow we rent space in our head to
our own mind and our ownconversation and how that
conversation will flip a switchon us and we can go from being
pro to con in like three secondsflat, depending on the subject,
how reactive we are and howmuch we actually listen to that
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voice.
So following up with going backto like Bruce Lipton and his
stuff.
He's a molecular biologistwho's done a lot on.
His book is "The Biology ofBelief.
That was his first book and itwas about changing our bodies on
a cellular level based on theway we think.
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What do we believe to be true?
So there's always a fact in asituation, and yet everything
around it is perception, so theperceptions are always different
.
There's nothing that's reallythe same in how two people
respond to a particularsituation.
I don't know whether that makessense or not, but that is about
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the energy.
So Joe Dispenza will talk abouthow it's the things we think
that affect the outcome ofanything and that being stuck
with historical stuff, trauma,things that have happened in our
lives, the things we tellourselves, the things we believe
about ourselves they all havean impact on our daily life.
Jeremy Wolf (08:10):
So much of it, so much of an impact.
One of the things I noticed wasthe stories I had been telling
myself for so long, and I talkedto you about this with my you
know creativity with my musicand writing poetry and things
like that.
I told myself this story foreverthat I just I'm not good enough
.
Maybe I just don't have anyrhythm.
(08:30):
Technically I can play theguitar, but that's as far as
I'll go with it.
And the more you tell yourselfthat story, you limit the belief
of what's possible, and themore you let your guard down and
start to just truly not give ashit about expectations or what
people think or the outcome.
Well then, all of a sudden,genius starts coming out.
Well, I say genius.
Marilisa Lawless (08:52):
Yes, it's like your stuff, it's awesome.
Jeremy Wolf (08:54):
Yeah, and it feeds on itself.
So the more you let go and themore you let your guard down,
the better it starts to sound.
And the better it starts tosound, the more confident you
get, the more confident you get.
And, just again, it's like a anendless loop of greatness and
it's just absolutely mesmerizingto me how so many people live
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their life without tapping intotheir true potential for fear of
what others think or fear offailure or whatever it is.
And I lived that way for solong and I still have.
You know, we're all humanbeings and we all have that to
some degree.
The trick is to identify thatwhen it happens and then, going
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back to meditation, right, justrecognize it for what it is.
I like to thank it.
If I get some kind of negativeanxiety or thought that comes up
, it's like, oh interesting, whyare you asking of negative
anxiety or thought that comes up?
It's like, oh interesting.
Or you ask it questions, right,your anxiety comes up.
Why did you pop into the system?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
And you kind of?
Jeremy Wolf (09:50):
have a little dialogue with that and you watch
it, just dismay.
It goes away and you realizehow silly it is.
You're like, oh OK, or you canget caught up in it and let it
ruin your whole day over somesilly interaction that you had
with some external thing thatyou have no control over.
Marilisa Lawless (10:03):
No, and that's true, because the reality is we
have control always over ourreaction to those external
things.
That's it, you know one of thethings that I was listening to
this morning was you know, ifsomebody cuts you off in traffic
, why, Okay A react.
You know you could react to it,but why?
(10:26):
Why, Okay A react.
You know you could react to it,but why, what?
What purpose does it serve foryou to react to it, except to
say, oh okay, Somebody, just,you know, switch lanes in front
of me.
Jeremy Wolf (10:32):
Yeah.
Marilisa Lawless (10:32):
Nothing bad happened.
No accident occurred, no, itwas just something that shifted
our focus.
Jeremy Wolf (10:39):
It's like a knee jerk reaction to when somebody,
if somebody cuts you offsomething is a deep
psychological impulse to want tolash out right.
You have to catch yourselfbecause it's overwhelming and
you have to just recognize that.
One of the things that I do is Ijust try to come from a place
of compassion and understandingand just realize that everybody
is operating in this world.
Everybody is going throughtheir own challenges.
(10:59):
You don't know what's going onin their world and most of the
time when somebody cuts you offit's not intentional, it's just
because they didn't see you.
It's not like they're like oh,I'm going to really ruin this
person's day and cut them off.
Most people aren't thinkingthat.
It's just a silly mistake.
And then again we allow it toconsume us and get angry and
we're only hurting ourself andwe're also putting out a bad
energy there.
Then the next interaction youhave with somebody, what are you
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saying?
Like oh, I was just driving andsome idiot cut me off, and now
you're giving that to somebodyelse, like it's so useful.
Marilisa Lawless (11:26):
Yeah, you're paying it forward.
Well, and that's the wholething.
You're paying it forward.
You're paying the angry partforward instead of the loving,
peaceful part, and saying we'reall doing the best we can.
Everybody's doing the best theycan.
There's, there's, you know,regardless of our perception of
what they think is their best,we all, we all are, we're all
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doing the best we can.
So, looking at energy, lookingat how our internal dialogue,
looking at what we're capable ofdoing on a biological level to
heal our own bodies, to heal ourown minds, it's all connected.
I just did a podcast withanother young woman, Rylin, who
does this healthy podcast.
(12:11):
She does it herself, she doeseverything, she sets it all up,
Rylin Rossano, and it's thesecond podcast that I've done
with her and we did one thisweek on trauma and how to help
with healing trauma, and sheputs it on social media and
she's got a following.
But she's 17 years old and shegraduated from high school and I
think she's in her third yearalready at Nova University and
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she's 17.
Jeremy Wolf (12:36):
Talking about trauma and healing at 17.
Goodness.
Marilisa Lawless (12:39):
She's amazing and she has some medical stuff
going on.
But just to watch her, shethinks I'm amazing.
I think she's amazing at 17 tobe doing everything that she's
doing, um, you know, and she'sgot her own health issues, she's
got her own things, but she,she just keeps going, um.
So I've done two, uh twopodcasts with her.
(13:00):
I think the first one we didwas like an hour and a half long
a bit long, but it was good andit was really beautiful.
And she again, she's searchingfor answers and wants to help
people figure this out, you know.
And the reason that I got intoany of this to begin with was
because of my own trauma and howI healed and how I got through
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all of that, because it's I mean, I started.
I didn't start the field untilthe late 80s.
You know, up to up till then Ihad been in therapy, I had done
work, I had done all that, butthere was still something
missing.
But I had enough to startgiving back and that's sort of
how I moved into this field ingeneral was to start giving back
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and that's sort of how I movedinto this field in general.
I was grateful enough with theprogress that I had made in my
life and felt settled enough inmy life to go to graduate school
to become a psychotherapist, tobe able to specialize in trauma
, to be able to bring as manypeople out of the trenches as I
could.
My sister, my mom and I we alldid it together.
We were at different levels,but we ended up opening the.
I could, my sister, my mom andI we all did it together.
We were in different, atdifferent levels, but we ended
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up opening the practice together.
I mean there's so many thingsthat are connected to, at its
base, a level of gratitude.
Yeah so being grateful for allof my life experiences and the
healing work that I've done andcontinue to do and give back is
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truly one of the best thingsthat I do in my life.
I really do love being helpfuland, for me, being kind, being
loving.
You know I'm not perfect, butthat's at my core.
That's what I want to be isloving and kind in every
situation.
It doesn't mean I don't getfrustrated with some of the
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corporate stuff you know, likedealing with companies that have
issues with CBD and hemp basedproducts and it's, you know,
dealing with.
It's a supplement, it's not adrug, and supplements help
people.
Jeremy Wolf (15:08):
Yeah, it's, you know, dealing with it's a
supplement, it's not a drug, andsupplements help people.
Yeah, it's.
It's crazy how much red tapethere is in your industry and
CBDs with.
With the cannabis industry soprevalent and becoming legal
everywhere, you would think thatwith that happening, the
regulation around CBD anywaywould would would be a little
bit more lax.
But it seems like you deal withso much red tape with
everything from running ads onFacebook to you were just
(15:30):
talking about with your paymentprocessing.
Everything you do isscrutinized with a fine tooth
comb because you're selling CBDs, which is not even marijuana,
it's hemp.
Marilisa Lawless (15:42):
So yes, but it's.
I have to see that some of thisstuff, the roadblocks that get
put there, they're there toteach me something.
Jeremy Wolf (15:51):
I was just going to say yes.
Marilisa Lawless (15:52):
Everything is a lesson for me and what do I
need to learn and how do I needto move forward?
So, moving back into energyhealing, looking at so Qigong
it's a Chinese energy healingThen we also have I mean, think
about what we have in thiscountry.
I mean, in the store, in theoffice here I have a medium that
works here and he was funny.
(16:16):
I was asking him one day well,what's the difference between
somebody that's a psychic andsomebody that's a medium?
And he said all mediums arepsychic but not all psychics are
mediums.
And if you're a medium you'retalking to dead people.
I was like, okay, he says theyhave to be dead.
You're just being a psychic,you're not being a medium.
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He made me laugh.
But Maurice Israel, he's anamazing intuitive healing
presence in my life and now inbusiness and he's a medium and
he's done the medical mediumship.
He started out as a Reikimaster many, many years ago.
He's a hospice nurse.
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I mean he stays connected tothat, that fine line.
And then the other side andI've had so many hospice nurses
tell me oh yeah, all the spiritsare here.
We don't tell the familiesbecause we don't want to freak
them out and they're not thereto take somebody.
They're there to make lifeeasier, to make the transition
easier.
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They can stay.
Or if they don't heal andthey're ready to move on to the
energy world or the spirit world, they do do so.
There are so many differentcomponents to healing with
energy that it's it's.
It comes down to find what itis you're comfortable with.
And if you're uncomfortable,what are you willing to step
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into for healing?
Like you like the ice baths?
The idea of stepping into anice bath is like there's no way.
I don't even like there's a waywe will.
Jeremy Wolf (17:52):
We will get you in to the ice bath, my you and my
wife both.
She won't go in but we'll getyou.
Marilisa Lawless (17:58):
We'll get you both in at some I've done the
cryotherapy, you know, and thatkind of stuff and it's it's
interesting, but it's not myentire body in an ice bath.
I just watched an episode, orre-watched an episode, of Ted
Lasso, and Roy Kent thischaracter is sitting in a trash
can that's filled with ice andwater in their training room and
he's just sitting.
Then he goes underwater andhe's just sitting there in an
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ice bath.
Um, you know, and we know ithelps with inflammation, but we
also know that you can have aheart attack doing it.
People have died doing icebaths.
Jeremy Wolf (18:31):
Yeah, if you have an underlying heart condition,
you might want to check intothat.
If you have a strong andhealthy heart and you're active
and you do exercise, you ain'tgoing to have a problem if you
go on the ice bath.
Marilisa Lawless (18:41):
Yeah it is.
It's for any kind of thehealing modalities?
Do your research.
It's for any kind of thehealing modalities.
Do your research.
At the end of the day, there isenough research out there
moving away from traditionalscience held beliefs about earth
and ground and it has to be,you know, tangible in order for
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it to be real.
And moving into this quantumfield of energy and
understanding that we are allenergy.
We all bring something to aroom, we bring something to our
family, we bring something toour lives, just by the energy
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that we put out.
You know, if your pops walksinto the room and he's angry,
everybody knows it.
Jeremy Wolf (19:31):
Everybody feels it, he doesn't have to say a word.
Marilisa Lawless (19:34):
Everybody feels it, and if somebody walks
in and they're silly and goofyand giggly, you can't help but
laugh and giggle.
And people do silly things andsometimes it just cracks us up.
And if we can find more thingsto just bring joy into our life,
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the world would be such a nicerplace.
It's like I don't watch the news.
I'll scan headlines, but ingeneral I won't watch the news
because everything issensationalized, everything is
negative.
There's no more stories in thenews about cow tipping.
There's no more stories in thenews about the traffic light
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that was out and, you know,helping the little old lady get
across the street, or you know Imean there's no more little
heartfelt, just loving warmstories in the news anymore and
searching for that.
You know I have a song that Ilisten to almost every morning
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and it's Michael Franti.
Michael Franti and Spearhead.
It's I listened to.
It's a good day for a good day.
Jeremy Wolf (20:42):
Today is a good day , I don't know the song, but I'm
going to check it out.
Marilisa Lawless (20:44):
Oh yes, it's a good day for a good day.
Jeremy Wolf (20:45):
I love that song, the song, but I'm going to check
it out, oh yes, a good day,it's a good day for a good day.
Marilisa Lawless (20:48):
Good day, I love that song and I will when
I'm with my grandchildren.
I'll grab my grandchildren andwe'll spin around the room, just
like my mom did with my son,Putting music on and dancing and
just being playful.
It's and at full and, at theend of the day, if we just focus
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on our own energy, and that'swhere meditation comes in.
I'm actually headed to aretreat out in Colorado at the
Rocky Mountain Eco-DharmaRetreat Center.
Jeremy Wolf (21:15):
Another silent retreat, absolutely.
Marilisa Lawless (21:18):
Silence up in Rocky Mountains.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I cannot wait.
Marilisa Lawless (21:23):
But this is also along the lines of what Joe
Dispenza does.
We all know in this field, weknow that energy comes with
being able to sit still longenough to know what's going on
in our own head and changing ourdialogue.
So when I was listening to thebook the Untethered Soul I'm
listening to it and it'scracking me up because I got it.
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I know how my brain will switchsides.
It'll play both sides, it'll.
You know it'll flip a switchwhenever, and if I need to get
angry, I will.
If I want to be happy, I will,um, but the opinions and the
voice that's nonstop.
So some people may not think thebook is funny, but I think it's
really funny because of just.
It's like yeah, I know, I knowthat story, I know that story,
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and so if each of us asindividuals can just bring a
little more kindness to theworld, I think we're all going
to be in a much, much betterplace and that our lives are
going to move more smoothly.
That feeling of abundance isn'tjust about financial abundance,
it's also about emotionalabundance.
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Do I have enough to keep givingto everybody that I love,
everybody that I want in my life?
And it's so easy, it really iseasy to just give, that I don't
have to give financially, I cangive time, I can just give and
make space for people in my life.
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So having an abundance of loveand kindness, there's nothing
like it.
Jeremy Wolf (23:01):
It's the way to go.
Yeah, and I tell my kids allthe time, because they get stuck
in their emotions likeeverybody does.
I tell them life is so muchbetter when you just let things
brush off of you and you don'tget consumed with anger, you
don't get consumed with hate andjealousy and you just try to be
happy all the time andeverything just seems to work
itself out.
Dig in a little bit furtherwhat you said, because this is
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something that I struggle withtremendously in my life and I'm
thinking that maybe you couldoffer some wisdom here, having a
few more years on me and beingreally deep in this space.
You mentioned the retreat.
Right, you go away for eightdays in silence.
I've been on many retreats.
I do a lot of plant medicineand other things that I work on,
and one of the things that Istruggle with and I think this
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partially has to do with thesociety that we live in Western
society is very status-driven,success-driven, abundance,
instant gratification.
So every time I go away and Iunplug and then I come back into
society, it's like I'm hit by aton of bricks and it's very
difficult to integrate what I'velearned through those
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experiences into the day-to-daylife.
It gets better and I realizeit's a process.
But I often find myself, youknow, a week out of the retreat
or whatever it is.
I'm okay, I'm okay.
But then slowly I start to getsucked.
I feel like I'm being suckedinto the dark side of Western
society.
And I, I met my.
I met up with my cousin.
I hadn't seen him in a whileand he lives.
He's married a lovely Japaneselady and they have a child and
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they split time between Japanand the US and he's on his way
back.
He's actually leaving tomorrowback to Japan and he was talking
about just how much better itis, how much more he enjoys
living over there than he doeshere, because of the culture
over there and you mentionedJapan earlier and Reiki and
these types of practices thoseare integral with society there
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and people are just morecourteous, people are more laid
back.
He lives in Okinawa.
He said it's just so.
Everything he said about thatwas like I want to go there but
I'm not there, I'm here.
So what do I do, or what doessomebody do in their daily life
to kind of walk that line rightbetween being productive and
being successful and buildingwealth for your family and doing
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all those things that areimportant, but also live from a
place of patience, understanding, being laid backpenza say this
it's a razor's edge betweenbeing a bum and not doing
anything and just oh, I manifesteverything but I don't do
anything and actually being soproductive that you're burning
(25:33):
your life up with stress andanxiety.
You have to find a balance.
How do you do that?
Plugged into the society?
Marilisa Lawless (25:42):
It is about.
What is your routine whenyou're alone?
What do you do to take care ofyourself?
So what I try to do is that Itry to do a minimum of I do
silence in the morning, so I'lldo, and I may not be sitting.
Like Joe Dispenza says, there'sbenefit to walking meditation
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and when I'm out doing my silentretreat, that will be one of
the things that we do.
It's a walking meditation, it'ssitting meditation and when I'm
out doing my silent retreat,that will be one of the things
that we do.
It's a walking meditation, it'ssitting meditation, it's laying
meditation, it's standingmeditation.
It is about being connected.
So what I do for myself to staygrounded and to not get tied up
into the insanity on a regularbasis.
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Or at least you get tied upinto it.
But how quickly can I remove it?
How quickly can I let it go?
So that time, with practice,gets less and less.
So one of the things that I doevery morning is that I go out
back barefoot and get in thegrass.
I have all these trees in mybackyard now and I've got guava
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and I put fruit boxes aroundthem, them like the ones that
the strawberries come in.
So when the fruit is coming.
To keep the iguanas and thesquirrels and everybody else the
birds from eating my guava, Iput boxes on them.
I'll have to send you thepicture.
I took a picture to send mysisters.
I also have two avocado treesthat have are bearing fruit for
the first time this year andthere are things.
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Everything in my yard wasplanted from a seed.
It was something that came intomy house that I bought, I ate
and threw in the dirt.
So I now have these two avocadotrees in the background or in
the back.
I've got a couple mango treesin the backyard and then I have
other trees that aren't bearingfruit yet, like my May and other
things.
But I physically go stand inthe grass and today I just stood
(27:29):
in the grass and looked at thetrees.
That's all I did.
I just looked up and I'm like,oh, that's so cool.
There's actually an avocado onthis little tree that I planted
and, oh man, those mangoes aregetting really big.
I'm grounding because I'm justnoticing what is.
I'm physically standing in dirtgrass trying to avoid dog poop
(27:56):
that I haven't found yet.
I know I pick that up everymorning, but actually just
noticing what I have in my lifeto be grateful for, for this
minute keeps me out of that fray, yeah, and there's nothing like
it.
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And then at night, to be ableto just do did I do my best?
What do I need to do to let goof what I didn't do right or
what I didn't do well?
So it really is about checkingin with myself in the morning
and checking in with myself atnight, and often that helps me
to just stay balanced.
So when I come back from one ofthese retreats, there is an
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integration period because,going from the silence to like
the busyness of of insanitywhich is what happened last year
when I went with big out to bigbear in California there was a
hurricane that came throughCalifornia the first time in a
hundred years.
Jeremy Wolf (28:58):
Right, you leave Florida to go somewhere.
And of all things, a hurricane,a hurricane.
Marilisa Lawless (29:02):
At least I knew what to do.
I knew how to handle it, whileother people were freaking out.
Jeremy Wolf (29:06):
You're a seasoned veteran.
Marilisa Lawless (29:08):
Seasoned veteran A.
Jeremy Wolf (29:09):
South Florida resident.
Marilisa Lawless (29:11):
But that was a hard entry.
Back into a week of silencedoing evacuation planning, back
into a week of silence doingevacuation planning.
And how are we getting here?
I was like that was a bit rough.
So I planned an extra two daysin Colorado for my re-entry.
I have no idea what I'm doing,I don't have a plan, I just know
(29:32):
I'm going to be there an extratwo days.
So just slowly moving back intothings.
So when you come back fromretreat, giving yourself an
opportunity to be quiet somepeople it helps to journal, some
people it helps to exercise,but I find it most helpful for
me to just be quiet and stand inthe grass, stand in the sand.
(29:57):
If you're on the beach, standin the grass, stand in in the
sand.
If you're on the beach, standin the grass, stand in the mud.
Just physically get to theearth.
The earth has its own vibration.
And trying to create thatbalance back, somebody just sent
me something yesterday.
A friend of mine sent meearthing.
I think that's what it's called.
I haven't looked at it.
It's a movie and it's this guywho does nothing but grounding.
(30:22):
And what do we do to staygrounding or to stay grounded,
and it's that kind of stuff.
What do we need to do?
To pay attention to what it isthat's going on inside and
saying, baby girl, it's okay,you're going to have a good day
(30:43):
and you'll get through this.
And being able to just say thatto yourself, you know, to say,
hey, little boy, we're going tobe, we're good.
Because that fear that getsstruck up on us, that's our like
what we call inner child stuff.
It's old stuff from when wewere kids and it didn't feel,
didn't feel heard, accepted,loved, whatever.
So being able to just take timeevery day, that's how you do
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the reintegration process in ahealthier way, because you don't
want to come back and get it adrinking or smoking or you know
partying or any of that, and youdon't want to come back and get
into drinking or smoking or youknow partying or any of that,
and you don't want to just jumpback into the the every day,
what we have to get done everysingle day.
It's take time to know thatthose things will get done and
(31:30):
it'll be easier to do them ifwe're also taking care of
ourselves first.
Jeremy Wolf (31:34):
So much easier, yeah, so much easier, yeah.
So for me, I've been running alot and sometimes I'll put on
Joe Dispenza and run and Iremember when I started
listening to him, a lot of itdidn't resonate.
So it's just like when you talkto kids and they're not really
hearing what you're sayingbecause it goes in one ear out
(31:56):
the other, you're not reallypaying attention.
I remember listening to JoeDispenza when I hadn't
implemented a lot of thesepractices in my life.
But as I started to implementsome of these things that he
talks about and started toactually reprogram my mind, I
started to notice things appearhe talks a lot about.
When you start to what's theword I'm looking for, I don't
(32:18):
want to say manifest when youstart to kind of create your own
reality with your thoughts,things start to show up in your
life.
I think he called them likebreadcrumbs from the divine or
something, or littleserendipities, right, Little
coincidences that pop up whereyou're like oh, wow, isn't that
crazy how that just landed on mydoor, which kind of like always
there.
(32:38):
But we're just not training ourattention on them.
We're focused on too often thenegative things and that's what
you see when you're focused onit and I've had these moments
where I've been running and he'sbeen talking on a podcast or
whatever it is and he'll saysomething and it just hits me so
hard that I get that glow in mybody, the warm and fuzzy glow.
I'm like oh my.
God, like, wow, how powerfulthat is.
(32:58):
And you get that feeling andyou're like, okay, like this is
real, like this is real shit,this is powerful.
And you're like I get this,like this is actually works, and
it just feeds itself.
And then that unlocks.
And then later on I'm sittingthere playing the guitar and
it's like all of a sudden,something comes to me and I call
them downloads from the divine.
I call them divine downloads.
So the creativity just flowsthe more you open up your and
(33:21):
tune into it everything.
Marilisa Lawless (33:22):
Absolutely.
And for me, when I know thatI'm on track with whatever I'm
doing, saying, thinking,behaving whatever it's like a
goosebumps.
I actually get the chills fromhead to toe and I'm like, all
right, I'm on target, Things aregoing in the way that I want
them to go and I'm actuallyfocused on making things go the
way that I want them to gobecause I'm not I'm not stuck on
(33:47):
the outcome.
Yeah, so I'm looking at what Ican do to just be present in my
life and bring more positiveinto my life.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Be present in my life and bring more positive into my
life.
Marilisa Lawless (33:58):
Yeah.
So the stuff with processing,it's going to work its way out.
The stuff with, you know, the,the products that will work its
way out, the the clients that Iwant to attract in my life.
It's happening, it's alreadyhappening.
The things that I want to do.
You know I had the mayor textme this morning and say I have a
client for you.
Jeremy Wolf (34:24):
I have a customer who wants to get some things
from you reach out to her.
I was like that's pretty cool.
Well, I mean, that's a functionof you doing what you do right.
You're very present in thecommunity, you put out that
great energy, you're alwayspositive, and then these things
just show up at your door.
Yeah, I want to talk realquickly about the flow state,
right, the elusive flows.
I actually wrote this littlepoem the other day.
Marilisa Lawless (34:44):
Oh cool.
Jeremy Wolf (34:45):
Tell yourself this story now.
Elusive flow state has beenfound.
Tune my soul with existence.
My only goal is no resistance.
Marilisa Lawless (34:55):
Wow, I love it goal is no resistance.
Jeremy Wolf (35:01):
Wow, I love it.
So it's so elusive, right, theflow state they're talking about
.
But when you get into thatgroove and I I notice it the
most when I play music and whenI'm, when I'm really plugged
into that and it's almost like adifferent person to write.
It's like it's, it's automaticand it's your joyful self.
Marilisa Lawless (35:15):
It's your joyful, joyful self.
Jeremy Wolf (35:17):
But it is so elusive.
Sometimes I'll sit down withthe guitar, I'll start playing
and I feel like, well, man, Ireally suck today.
Like what am I doing?
How do I get into that state?
Right, and like it's one ofthose things that you just have
to do the work.
You just have to be present,you have to.
(35:38):
Whatever that practice lookslike for you, whether it's
meditation, whether it'sexercise, if you do these things
consistently, you start toprogram your mind in a way that
starts serving you and what youwant to do, whereas if you don't
create these habits, you knowcause we don't, we don't really
have control over what we do.
I mean, it's almost an illusionthe idea of free will, like
everything we're doing, allthese reactions, everything that
we're, the way we're operatingthe world, is basically the
programs that are running behindthe scenes.
That's like how do we refinethose programs in the way that
(36:01):
best serves us and our life andwhat we want to do?
And I think the more you dothat you start tapping into that
flow state more and more andmore and it becomes less and
less elusive.
But it's been very elusive forme, as I'm sure it has been with
most people throughout my life,but I am tapping into it more
and more now which is cool.
Marilisa Lawless (36:17):
That's awesome , and I find that most men in
their forties are ready becausethey've already.
They've been working on thecareer, they've been working on
the family and they're finallyworking on themselves.
Women probably feel it at ayounger age because they have
had more responsibilities on onelevel or another for the family
, and it just is an amazingexperience when you let yourself
(36:43):
actually start to feel and it'sbeing connected to how you feel
.
That brings more of theemotional side of life.
People have a tendency to wantto avoid sadness, but if you
avoid the sad things in yourlife and you don't allow
yourself to just have a feeling,don't make a big deal about it.
(37:05):
It's like I feel sad right now.
I want to cry With.
That brings joy, becauseeverything is a give and take,
everything is a balance,everything is the yin yang.
It's all these things.
How do you bring more joy intoyour life?
Pay attention to those momentswhen you feel sad.
Notice the things that make youangry and what do you need to
(37:28):
do to let it go?
Most anger is struck by fear.
So pay attention to the timeswhen you feel afraid and say, oh
, I'm afraid, why am I afraid?
I'm safe, I'm safe, I can letthis go.
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The quicker you can address thephysical or the emotional
responses that you're having,the more joy you're going to
have in your life.
The more you practice beingkind, being loving, the more joy
you're going to have in yourlife.
It does not mean that you don'texperience sad things or that
you don't get angry.
Sometimes You're not just thisemotional mush where you don't
feel anything.
No, it opens up this broadspectrum of who we were.
(38:11):
As babies.
We came into this world havingall of our feelings and we
learned to stop having them.
So as we move forward in ouradult lives, we realize, hmm,
something's missing.
How do we bring it back?
This is how we bring it back.
Give yourself 10 minutes in thedirt every day.
Give yourself, whether it's ina garden, whether it's in the
(38:31):
grass, whether it's puttingboxes on a guava, do something
in nature.
I go outside of this office andI stand and I just stare at the
sun.
Every day.
I do it every day betweensessions, between when I have a
minute, when I'm feelingstressed, I'll go sit with the
(38:52):
crystals, or I'll go outside andjust and the sun, just letting
the sun shine on my face.
It's not about getting a tan.
It's just about being gratefulthat I can actually still see
the sun and I can feel it, andit's about life.
You know, this is all.
How do we bring more joy, howdo we bring more healing, how do
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we bring more energy into ourlives that are positive?
We are.
It Change the way we think andwe change the way we feel we are
the medicine.
We absolutely are the medicine.
Jeremy Wolf (39:26):
Very cool.
Marilisa Lawless (39:27):
Well.
Jeremy Wolf (39:28):
I'm going to leave it at that, unless there's
anything else you want to share.
I think that's a good way toclose up here.
This has been a veryconstructive and useful
conversation and I am so excitedto continue this journey and
continue to implement thesepractices and spread the message
and try to do my best to live agood life and help others and
(39:49):
put a good vibe out into theuniverse Right.
Here's another one.
Marilisa Lawless (39:53):
I appreciate you, Jeremy.
Jeremy Wolf (39:55):
Here's another one for you High vibration, feel the
flow, expectations.
Let them go.
Step aside and clear the way,embark upon a brighter day.
Marilisa Lawless (40:08):
Woo Awesome.
Jeremy Wolf (40:09):
Love it, love it, all right Get that stuff out
there.
Marilisa Lawless (40:12):
Continue To be continued, absolutely.
Jeremy Wolf (40:16):
All right, Mari lisa, have a wonderful day.
I will see you next time.
Thanks, everyone for tuning inand we will catch you all in the
next episode of the Hemp DelSoul podcast.
Everyone, take care, have awonderful day, bye-bye.
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Jeremy Wolf (00:14):
Hello, hello everyone, and welcome back to
another episode of the Hemp DelSol podcast.
Co-host here, Jeremy Wolf,joined by your host, Marilisa
Lawless.
Marilisa, I say this all thetime, I will say it again it's
always a pleasure being in yourcompany.
Marilisa Lawless (00:32):
I just enjoy being with you.
You have a good energy yourself, you know, and it's not just
about the company, it's aboutwhat we put out to the world.
So I'm grateful to be here withyou.
Jeremy Wolf (00:42):
Yes, indeed, and speaking of energy, that's the
topic of conversation for todayHealing and energy, something
that I say this all the time onthe North Side of 40.
Recently, I really got intothis whole space and it's been
fascinating.
My personal journey of growthand personal development has
(01:04):
been real.
So let's talk a little bitabout energy healing, and I know
you mentioned you've beenlistening to Joe Dispenza a lot.
So let's get into this.
Set the stage for us and I knowthis is what you do right With
Hemp Del Soul, Crystals Del Soul, the Transformation Project.
It is all about basically usingthe tools we have available,
(01:27):
using our own bodies.
We are the medicine.
What can we do within ourselvesto be better, live a good life
and put good energy out thereand attract the things we want
in our life?
So set the stage for us.
What do you have on your mind?
Marilisa Lawless (01:41):
So where I am in my life, is that I understand
, because I guess if you're onthe north side of 40, I'm on the
south side of 70.
I'm 62.
Jeremy Wolf (01:55):
So you know looking good, I might thank you very
much.
Marilisa Lawless (02:00):
As I move through my life, I look at how
the energy of the people aroundme has impacted me in a positive
or negative way, and that thepeople I choose to have in my
life.
On a personal level, I'vereally we talk about things,
(02:21):
about how we actually feel andthe things we pick up from each
other, what we sense from eachother, and in my professional
world I realized that I've donea lot of training in energy
healing, so I've been exposed toReiki for 30 years now and
(02:45):
Reiki is a Japanese form ofenergy healing and we actually
have a Reiki circle here twice amonth now.
Jeremy Wolf (02:55):
You need to send me information about when you have
that, because I've heard allsorts of things about Reiki
healing.
I don't know that I've everbeen involved with that, and
that's something that I do wantto explore.
So please don't forget, send meover some information.
Marilisa Lawless (03:09):
Absolutely I will, and generally we have it
in the in the office, because wedo have a large space.
So we have a circle and we havethat on the second and fourth
Thursdays of the month.
For the month of June we'reswitching it up just to the
first and the fourth becauseI'll be away and the person who
does it normally on the secondit's her birthday, so she's not
(03:31):
going to be here on the 13th.
So we're doing it June 6th andthen we'll do it again on the
fourth Thursday.
Seating's limited, so we dotell people to reach out to us
to reserve a seat.
What does that look?
Jeremy Wolf (03:45):
like and I'm going to experience, but what is one
to expect?
I think I say this all the time.
Right, like for the most of themasses out there, they hear a
term like Reiki healing andimmediately it's like that
woo-woo, the woo-woo, knee-jerkreaction comes up.
It's like oh, what is that?
Like energy healing, but it'slike a healing, but it's like
but I think most people havethat misconception about it it's
(04:05):
like what?
What is one to expect if theycame into a Reiki circle?
What does that look like?
What does that encompass?
Marilisa Lawless (04:11):
The room is set up.
There's eight chairs maximum.
The person who is performingthe Reiki is on the outside of
this circle and she'll walkaround.
She asked for permission totouch ahead of time.
She usually will have incensenot incense, but essential oils
like lavender and things likethat in the room.
(04:32):
The lighting is low.
It's a very calm experiencephysically and what they?
She tells you not to expectanything.
Don't have expectations, justallow to come whatever comes.
And so she'll move aroundbehind each person and every
(04:53):
single person.
She'll say something.
She'll, you know, give you ahug, she'll touch you, she'll,
you know, just doing differentparts of the body and how we
heal.
She's really fine-tuned or intune with other people's energy.
So it's sort of a sampling of aReiki session, because she does
(05:15):
do individual sessions here.
You know, private sessions.
This is a way to be exposed towhat energy healing looks like
and feels like.
Everyone has a differentexperience, and yet there's not
been one person in the monthsthat we've been doing this.
We've been doing it sinceFebruary.
No one has said, oh, thatsucked.
(05:36):
I was like, wow, that wasreally interesting.
The things you said were spoton.
The emotions that I felt wereincredible.
So I haven't had anybody haveany kind of a negative response
on any level.
The thing to know is that inJapan, this is part of medical
(05:59):
school training, because theyunderstand that in order to heal
the body, you need to heal theenergy that's attached to the
body.
So everything is about mind andbody, soul, spirit.
It's all connected, we're allconnected.
So when we move into, like JoeDispenza, and we start looking
at what people do in thiscountry well, actually he's all
(06:22):
over the world and how theyoffer healing, how he offers
healing, and it's generallythrough meditation, everything
about meditation and mindfulnessand changing the internal
dialogue.
There's so many differentcomponents.
I've got a lot going on in myhead right now.
Like one of the books I'mreading is called the
(06:42):
"Untethered Soul.
Right now, like one of thebooks I'm reading is called the
untethered soul and it is abouthow we rent space in our head to
our own mind and our ownconversation and how that
conversation will flip a switchon us and we can go from being
pro to con in like three secondsflat, depending on the subject,
how reactive we are and howmuch we actually listen to that
(07:05):
voice.
So following up with going backto like Bruce Lipton and his
stuff.
He's a molecular biologistwho's done a lot on.
His book is "The Biology ofBelief.
That was his first book and itwas about changing our bodies on
a cellular level based on theway we think.
(07:27):
What do we believe to be true?
So there's always a fact in asituation, and yet everything
around it is perception, so theperceptions are always different
.
There's nothing that's reallythe same in how two people
respond to a particularsituation.
I don't know whether that makessense or not, but that is about
(07:49):
the energy.
So Joe Dispenza will talk abouthow it's the things we think
that affect the outcome ofanything and that being stuck
with historical stuff, trauma,things that have happened in our
lives, the things we tellourselves, the things we believe
about ourselves they all havean impact on our daily life.
Jeremy Wolf (08:10):
So much of it, so much of an impact.
One of the things I noticed wasthe stories I had been telling
myself for so long, and I talkedto you about this with my you
know creativity with my musicand writing poetry and things
like that.
I told myself this story foreverthat I just I'm not good enough
.
Maybe I just don't have anyrhythm.
(08:30):
Technically I can play theguitar, but that's as far as
I'll go with it.
And the more you tell yourselfthat story, you limit the belief
of what's possible, and themore you let your guard down and
start to just truly not give ashit about expectations or what
people think or the outcome.
Well then, all of a sudden,genius starts coming out.
Well, I say genius.
Marilisa Lawless (08:52):
Yes, it's like your stuff, it's awesome.
Jeremy Wolf (08:54):
Yeah, and it feeds on itself.
So the more you let go and themore you let your guard down,
the better it starts to sound.
And the better it starts tosound, the more confident you
get, the more confident you get.
And, just again, it's like a anendless loop of greatness and
it's just absolutely mesmerizingto me how so many people live
(09:16):
their life without tapping intotheir true potential for fear of
what others think or fear offailure or whatever it is.
And I lived that way for solong and I still have.
You know, we're all humanbeings and we all have that to
some degree.
The trick is to identify thatwhen it happens and then, going
(09:36):
back to meditation, right, justrecognize it for what it is.
I like to thank it.
If I get some kind of negativeanxiety or thought that comes up
, it's like, oh interesting, whyare you asking of negative
anxiety or thought that comes up?
It's like, oh interesting.
Or you ask it questions, right,your anxiety comes up.
Why did you pop into the system?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
And you kind of?
Jeremy Wolf (09:50):
have a little dialogue with that and you watch
it, just dismay.
It goes away and you realizehow silly it is.
You're like, oh OK, or you canget caught up in it and let it
ruin your whole day over somesilly interaction that you had
with some external thing thatyou have no control over.
Marilisa Lawless (10:03):
No, and that's true, because the reality is we
have control always over ourreaction to those external
things.
That's it, you know one of thethings that I was listening to
this morning was you know, ifsomebody cuts you off in traffic
, why, Okay A react.
You know you could react to it,but why?
(10:26):
Why, Okay A react.
You know you could react to it,but why, what?
What purpose does it serve foryou to react to it, except to
say, oh okay, Somebody, just,you know, switch lanes in front
of me.
Jeremy Wolf (10:32):
Yeah.
Marilisa Lawless (10:32):
Nothing bad happened.
No accident occurred, no, itwas just something that shifted
our focus.
Jeremy Wolf (10:39):
It's like a knee jerk reaction to when somebody,
if somebody cuts you offsomething is a deep
psychological impulse to want tolash out right.
You have to catch yourselfbecause it's overwhelming and
you have to just recognize that.
One of the things that I do is Ijust try to come from a place
of compassion and understandingand just realize that everybody
is operating in this world.
Everybody is going throughtheir own challenges.
(10:59):
You don't know what's going onin their world and most of the
time when somebody cuts you offit's not intentional, it's just
because they didn't see you.
It's not like they're like oh,I'm going to really ruin this
person's day and cut them off.
Most people aren't thinkingthat.
It's just a silly mistake.
And then again we allow it toconsume us and get angry and
we're only hurting ourself andwe're also putting out a bad
energy there.
Then the next interaction youhave with somebody, what are you
(11:20):
saying?
Like oh, I was just driving andsome idiot cut me off, and now
you're giving that to somebodyelse, like it's so useful.
Marilisa Lawless (11:26):
Yeah, you're paying it forward.
Well, and that's the wholething.
You're paying it forward.
You're paying the angry partforward instead of the loving,
peaceful part, and saying we'reall doing the best we can.
Everybody's doing the best theycan.
There's, there's, you know,regardless of our perception of
what they think is their best,we all, we all are, we're all
(11:49):
doing the best we can.
So, looking at energy, lookingat how our internal dialogue,
looking at what we're capable ofdoing on a biological level to
heal our own bodies, to heal ourown minds, it's all connected.
I just did a podcast withanother young woman, Rylin, who
does this healthy podcast.
(12:11):
She does it herself, she doeseverything, she sets it all up,
Rylin Rossano, and it's thesecond podcast that I've done
with her and we did one thisweek on trauma and how to help
with healing trauma, and sheputs it on social media and
she's got a following.
But she's 17 years old and shegraduated from high school and I
think she's in her third yearalready at Nova University and
(12:35):
she's 17.
Jeremy Wolf (12:36):
Talking about trauma and healing at 17.
Goodness.
Marilisa Lawless (12:39):
She's amazing and she has some medical stuff
going on.
But just to watch her, shethinks I'm amazing.
I think she's amazing at 17 tobe doing everything that she's
doing, um, you know, and she'sgot her own health issues, she's
got her own things, but she,she just keeps going, um.
So I've done two, uh twopodcasts with her.
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I think the first one we didwas like an hour and a half long
a bit long, but it was good andit was really beautiful.
And she again, she's searchingfor answers and wants to help
people figure this out, you know.
And the reason that I got intoany of this to begin with was
because of my own trauma and howI healed and how I got through
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all of that, because it's I mean, I started.
I didn't start the field untilthe late 80s.
You know, up to up till then Ihad been in therapy, I had done
work, I had done all that, butthere was still something
missing.
But I had enough to startgiving back and that's sort of
how I moved into this field ingeneral was to start giving back
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and that's sort of how I movedinto this field in general.
I was grateful enough with theprogress that I had made in my
life and felt settled enough inmy life to go to graduate school
to become a psychotherapist, tobe able to specialize in trauma
, to be able to bring as manypeople out of the trenches as I
could.
My sister, my mom and I we alldid it together.
We were at different levels,but we ended up opening the.
I could, my sister, my mom andI we all did it together.
We were in different, atdifferent levels, but we ended
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up opening the practice together.
I mean there's so many thingsthat are connected to, at its
base, a level of gratitude.
Yeah so being grateful for allof my life experiences and the
healing work that I've done andcontinue to do and give back is
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truly one of the best thingsthat I do in my life.
I really do love being helpfuland, for me, being kind, being
loving.
You know I'm not perfect, butthat's at my core.
That's what I want to be isloving and kind in every
situation.
It doesn't mean I don't getfrustrated with some of the
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corporate stuff you know, likedealing with companies that have
issues with CBD and hemp basedproducts and it's, you know,
dealing with.
It's a supplement, it's not adrug, and supplements help
people.
Jeremy Wolf (15:08):
Yeah, it's, you know, dealing with it's a
supplement, it's not a drug, andsupplements help people.
Yeah, it's.
It's crazy how much red tapethere is in your industry and
CBDs with.
With the cannabis industry soprevalent and becoming legal
everywhere, you would think thatwith that happening, the
regulation around CBD anywaywould would would be a little
bit more lax.
But it seems like you deal withso much red tape with
everything from running ads onFacebook to you were just
(15:30):
talking about with your paymentprocessing.
Everything you do isscrutinized with a fine tooth
comb because you're selling CBDs, which is not even marijuana,
it's hemp.
Marilisa Lawless (15:42):
So yes, but it's.
I have to see that some of thisstuff, the roadblocks that get
put there, they're there toteach me something.
Jeremy Wolf (15:51):
I was just going to say yes.
Marilisa Lawless (15:52):
Everything is a lesson for me and what do I
need to learn and how do I needto move forward?
So, moving back into energyhealing, looking at so Qigong
it's a Chinese energy healingThen we also have I mean, think
about what we have in thiscountry.
I mean, in the store, in theoffice here I have a medium that
works here and he was funny.
(16:16):
I was asking him one day well,what's the difference between
somebody that's a psychic andsomebody that's a medium?
And he said all mediums arepsychic but not all psychics are
mediums.
And if you're a medium you'retalking to dead people.
I was like, okay, he says theyhave to be dead.
You're just being a psychic,you're not being a medium.
(16:37):
He made me laugh.
But Maurice Israel, he's anamazing intuitive healing
presence in my life and now inbusiness and he's a medium and
he's done the medical mediumship.
He started out as a Reikimaster many, many years ago.
He's a hospice nurse.
(16:58):
I mean he stays connected tothat, that fine line.
And then the other side andI've had so many hospice nurses
tell me oh yeah, all the spiritsare here.
We don't tell the familiesbecause we don't want to freak
them out and they're not thereto take somebody.
They're there to make lifeeasier, to make the transition
easier.
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They can stay.
Or if they don't heal andthey're ready to move on to the
energy world or the spirit world, they do do so.
There are so many differentcomponents to healing with
energy that it's it's.
It comes down to find what itis you're comfortable with.
And if you're uncomfortable,what are you willing to step
(17:39):
into for healing?
Like you like the ice baths?
The idea of stepping into anice bath is like there's no way.
I don't even like there's a waywe will.
Jeremy Wolf (17:52):
We will get you in to the ice bath, my you and my
wife both.
She won't go in but we'll getyou.
Marilisa Lawless (17:58):
We'll get you both in at some I've done the
cryotherapy, you know, and thatkind of stuff and it's it's
interesting, but it's not myentire body in an ice bath.
I just watched an episode, orre-watched an episode, of Ted
Lasso, and Roy Kent thischaracter is sitting in a trash
can that's filled with ice andwater in their training room and
he's just sitting.
Then he goes underwater andhe's just sitting there in an
(18:20):
ice bath.
Um, you know, and we know ithelps with inflammation, but we
also know that you can have aheart attack doing it.
People have died doing icebaths.
Jeremy Wolf (18:31):
Yeah, if you have an underlying heart condition,
you might want to check intothat.
If you have a strong andhealthy heart and you're active
and you do exercise, you ain'tgoing to have a problem if you
go on the ice bath.
Marilisa Lawless (18:41):
Yeah it is.
It's for any kind of thehealing modalities?
Do your research.
It's for any kind of thehealing modalities.
Do your research.
At the end of the day, there isenough research out there
moving away from traditionalscience held beliefs about earth
and ground and it has to be,you know, tangible in order for
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it to be real.
And moving into this quantumfield of energy and
understanding that we are allenergy.
We all bring something to aroom, we bring something to our
family, we bring something toour lives, just by the energy
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that we put out.
You know, if your pops walksinto the room and he's angry,
everybody knows it.
Jeremy Wolf (19:31):
Everybody feels it, he doesn't have to say a word.
Marilisa Lawless (19:34):
Everybody feels it, and if somebody walks
in and they're silly and goofyand giggly, you can't help but
laugh and giggle.
And people do silly things andsometimes it just cracks us up.
And if we can find more thingsto just bring joy into our life,
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the world would be such a nicerplace.
It's like I don't watch the news.
I'll scan headlines, but ingeneral I won't watch the news
because everything issensationalized, everything is
negative.
There's no more stories in thenews about cow tipping.
There's no more stories in thenews about the traffic light
(20:15):
that was out and, you know,helping the little old lady get
across the street, or you know Imean there's no more little
heartfelt, just loving warmstories in the news anymore and
searching for that.
You know I have a song that Ilisten to almost every morning
(20:35):
and it's Michael Franti.
Michael Franti and Spearhead.
It's I listened to.
It's a good day for a good day.
Jeremy Wolf (20:42):
Today is a good day , I don't know the song, but I'm
going to check it out.
Marilisa Lawless (20:44):
Oh yes, it's a good day for a good day.
Jeremy Wolf (20:45):
I love that song, the song, but I'm going to check
it out, oh yes, a good day,it's a good day for a good day.
Marilisa Lawless (20:48):
Good day, I love that song and I will when
I'm with my grandchildren.
I'll grab my grandchildren andwe'll spin around the room, just
like my mom did with my son,Putting music on and dancing and
just being playful.
It's and at full and, at theend of the day, if we just focus
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on our own energy, and that'swhere meditation comes in.
I'm actually headed to aretreat out in Colorado at the
Rocky Mountain Eco-DharmaRetreat Center.
Jeremy Wolf (21:15):
Another silent retreat, absolutely.
Marilisa Lawless (21:18):
Silence up in Rocky Mountains.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I cannot wait.
Marilisa Lawless (21:23):
But this is also along the lines of what Joe
Dispenza does.
We all know in this field, weknow that energy comes with
being able to sit still longenough to know what's going on
in our own head and changing ourdialogue.
So when I was listening to thebook the Untethered Soul I'm
listening to it and it'scracking me up because I got it.
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I know how my brain will switchsides.
It'll play both sides, it'll.
You know it'll flip a switchwhenever, and if I need to get
angry, I will.
If I want to be happy, I will,um, but the opinions and the
voice that's nonstop.
So some people may not think thebook is funny, but I think it's
really funny because of just.
It's like yeah, I know, I knowthat story, I know that story,
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and so if each of us asindividuals can just bring a
little more kindness to theworld, I think we're all going
to be in a much, much betterplace and that our lives are
going to move more smoothly.
That feeling of abundance isn'tjust about financial abundance,
it's also about emotionalabundance.
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Do I have enough to keep givingto everybody that I love,
everybody that I want in my life?
And it's so easy, it really iseasy to just give, that I don't
have to give financially, I cangive time, I can just give and
make space for people in my life.
(22:54):
So having an abundance of loveand kindness, there's nothing
like it.
Jeremy Wolf (23:01):
It's the way to go.
Yeah, and I tell my kids allthe time, because they get stuck
in their emotions likeeverybody does.
I tell them life is so muchbetter when you just let things
brush off of you and you don'tget consumed with anger, you
don't get consumed with hate andjealousy and you just try to be
happy all the time andeverything just seems to work
itself out.
Dig in a little bit furtherwhat you said, because this is
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something that I struggle withtremendously in my life and I'm
thinking that maybe you couldoffer some wisdom here, having a
few more years on me and beingreally deep in this space.
You mentioned the retreat.
Right, you go away for eightdays in silence.
I've been on many retreats.
I do a lot of plant medicineand other things that I work on,
and one of the things that Istruggle with and I think this
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partially has to do with thesociety that we live in Western
society is very status-driven,success-driven, abundance,
instant gratification.
So every time I go away and Iunplug and then I come back into
society, it's like I'm hit by aton of bricks and it's very
difficult to integrate what I'velearned through those
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experiences into the day-to-daylife.
It gets better and I realizeit's a process.
But I often find myself, youknow, a week out of the retreat
or whatever it is.
I'm okay, I'm okay.
But then slowly I start to getsucked.
I feel like I'm being suckedinto the dark side of Western
society.
And I, I met my.
I met up with my cousin.
I hadn't seen him in a whileand he lives.
He's married a lovely Japaneselady and they have a child and
(24:28):
they split time between Japanand the US and he's on his way
back.
He's actually leaving tomorrowback to Japan and he was talking
about just how much better itis, how much more he enjoys
living over there than he doeshere, because of the culture
over there and you mentionedJapan earlier and Reiki and
these types of practices thoseare integral with society there
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and people are just morecourteous, people are more laid
back.
He lives in Okinawa.
He said it's just so.
Everything he said about thatwas like I want to go there but
I'm not there, I'm here.
So what do I do, or what doessomebody do in their daily life
to kind of walk that line rightbetween being productive and
being successful and buildingwealth for your family and doing
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all those things that areimportant, but also live from a
place of patience, understanding, being laid backpenza say this
it's a razor's edge betweenbeing a bum and not doing
anything and just oh, I manifesteverything but I don't do
anything and actually being soproductive that you're burning
(25:33):
your life up with stress andanxiety.
You have to find a balance.
How do you do that?
Plugged into the society?
Marilisa Lawless (25:42):
It is about.
What is your routine whenyou're alone?
What do you do to take care ofyourself?
So what I try to do is that Itry to do a minimum of I do
silence in the morning, so I'lldo, and I may not be sitting.
Like Joe Dispenza says, there'sbenefit to walking meditation
(26:03):
and when I'm out doing my silentretreat, that will be one of
the things that we do.
It's a walking meditation, it'ssitting meditation and when I'm
out doing my silent retreat,that will be one of the things
that we do.
It's a walking meditation, it'ssitting meditation, it's laying
meditation, it's standingmeditation.
It is about being connected.
So what I do for myself to staygrounded and to not get tied up
into the insanity on a regularbasis.
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Or at least you get tied upinto it.
But how quickly can I remove it?
How quickly can I let it go?
So that time, with practice,gets less and less.
So one of the things that I doevery morning is that I go out
back barefoot and get in thegrass.
I have all these trees in mybackyard now and I've got guava
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and I put fruit boxes aroundthem, them like the ones that
the strawberries come in.
So when the fruit is coming.
To keep the iguanas and thesquirrels and everybody else the
birds from eating my guava, Iput boxes on them.
I'll have to send you thepicture.
I took a picture to send mysisters.
I also have two avocado treesthat have are bearing fruit for
the first time this year andthere are things.
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Everything in my yard wasplanted from a seed.
It was something that came intomy house that I bought, I ate
and threw in the dirt.
So I now have these two avocadotrees in the background or in
the back.
I've got a couple mango treesin the backyard and then I have
other trees that aren't bearingfruit yet, like my May and other
things.
But I physically go stand inthe grass and today I just stood
(27:29):
in the grass and looked at thetrees.
That's all I did.
I just looked up and I'm like,oh, that's so cool.
There's actually an avocado onthis little tree that I planted
and, oh man, those mangoes aregetting really big.
I'm grounding because I'm justnoticing what is.
I'm physically standing in dirtgrass trying to avoid dog poop
(27:56):
that I haven't found yet.
I know I pick that up everymorning, but actually just
noticing what I have in my lifeto be grateful for, for this
minute keeps me out of that fray, yeah, and there's nothing like
it.
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And then at night, to be ableto just do did I do my best?
What do I need to do to let goof what I didn't do right or
what I didn't do well?
So it really is about checkingin with myself in the morning
and checking in with myself atnight, and often that helps me
to just stay balanced.
So when I come back from one ofthese retreats, there is an
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integration period because,going from the silence to like
the busyness of of insanitywhich is what happened last year
when I went with big out to bigbear in California there was a
hurricane that came throughCalifornia the first time in a
hundred years.
Jeremy Wolf (28:58):
Right, you leave Florida to go somewhere.
And of all things, a hurricane,a hurricane.
Marilisa Lawless (29:02):
At least I knew what to do.
I knew how to handle it, whileother people were freaking out.
Jeremy Wolf (29:06):
You're a seasoned veteran.
Marilisa Lawless (29:08):
Seasoned veteran A.
Jeremy Wolf (29:09):
South Florida resident.
Marilisa Lawless (29:11):
But that was a hard entry.
Back into a week of silencedoing evacuation planning, back
into a week of silence doingevacuation planning.
And how are we getting here?
I was like that was a bit rough.
So I planned an extra two daysin Colorado for my re-entry.
I have no idea what I'm doing,I don't have a plan, I just know
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I'm going to be there an extratwo days.
So just slowly moving back intothings.
So when you come back fromretreat, giving yourself an
opportunity to be quiet somepeople it helps to journal, some
people it helps to exercise,but I find it most helpful for
me to just be quiet and stand inthe grass, stand in the sand.
(29:57):
If you're on the beach, standin the grass, stand in in the
sand.
If you're on the beach, standin the grass, stand in the mud.
Just physically get to theearth.
The earth has its own vibration.
And trying to create thatbalance back, somebody just sent
me something yesterday.
A friend of mine sent meearthing.
I think that's what it's called.
I haven't looked at it.
It's a movie and it's this guywho does nothing but grounding.
(30:22):
And what do we do to staygrounding or to stay grounded,
and it's that kind of stuff.
What do we need to do?
To pay attention to what it isthat's going on inside and
saying, baby girl, it's okay,you're going to have a good day
(30:43):
and you'll get through this.
And being able to just say thatto yourself, you know, to say,
hey, little boy, we're going tobe, we're good.
Because that fear that getsstruck up on us, that's our like
what we call inner child stuff.
It's old stuff from when wewere kids and it didn't feel,
didn't feel heard, accepted,loved, whatever.
So being able to just take timeevery day, that's how you do
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the reintegration process in ahealthier way, because you don't
want to come back and get it adrinking or smoking or you know
partying or any of that, and youdon't want to come back and get
into drinking or smoking or youknow partying or any of that,
and you don't want to just jumpback into the the every day,
what we have to get done everysingle day.
It's take time to know thatthose things will get done and
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it'll be easier to do them ifwe're also taking care of
ourselves first.
Jeremy Wolf (31:34):
So much easier, yeah, so much easier, yeah.
So for me, I've been running alot and sometimes I'll put on
Joe Dispenza and run and Iremember when I started
listening to him, a lot of itdidn't resonate.
So it's just like when you talkto kids and they're not really
hearing what you're sayingbecause it goes in one ear out
(31:56):
the other, you're not reallypaying attention.
I remember listening to JoeDispenza when I hadn't
implemented a lot of thesepractices in my life.
But as I started to implementsome of these things that he
talks about and started toactually reprogram my mind, I
started to notice things appearhe talks a lot about.
When you start to what's theword I'm looking for, I don't
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want to say manifest when youstart to kind of create your own
reality with your thoughts,things start to show up in your
life.
I think he called them likebreadcrumbs from the divine or
something, or littleserendipities, right, Little
coincidences that pop up whereyou're like oh, wow, isn't that
crazy how that just landed on mydoor, which kind of like always
there.
(32:38):
But we're just not training ourattention on them.
We're focused on too often thenegative things and that's what
you see when you're focused onit and I've had these moments
where I've been running and he'sbeen talking on a podcast or
whatever it is and he'll saysomething and it just hits me so
hard that I get that glow in mybody, the warm and fuzzy glow.
I'm like oh my.
God, like, wow, how powerfulthat is.
(32:58):
And you get that feeling andyou're like, okay, like this is
real, like this is real shit,this is powerful.
And you're like I get this,like this is actually works, and
it just feeds itself.
And then that unlocks.
And then later on I'm sittingthere playing the guitar and
it's like all of a sudden,something comes to me and I call
them downloads from the divine.
I call them divine downloads.
So the creativity just flowsthe more you open up your and
(33:21):
tune into it everything.
Marilisa Lawless (33:22):
Absolutely.
And for me, when I know thatI'm on track with whatever I'm
doing, saying, thinking,behaving whatever it's like a
goosebumps.
I actually get the chills fromhead to toe and I'm like, all
right, I'm on target, Things aregoing in the way that I want
them to go and I'm actuallyfocused on making things go the
way that I want them to gobecause I'm not I'm not stuck on
(33:47):
the outcome.
Yeah, so I'm looking at what Ican do to just be present in my
life and bring more positiveinto my life.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Be present in my life and bring more positive into my
life.
Marilisa Lawless (33:58):
Yeah.
So the stuff with processing,it's going to work its way out.
The stuff with, you know, the,the products that will work its
way out, the the clients that Iwant to attract in my life.
It's happening, it's alreadyhappening.
The things that I want to do.
You know I had the mayor textme this morning and say I have a
client for you.
Jeremy Wolf (34:24):
I have a customer who wants to get some things
from you reach out to her.
I was like that's pretty cool.
Well, I mean, that's a functionof you doing what you do right.
You're very present in thecommunity, you put out that
great energy, you're alwayspositive, and then these things
just show up at your door.
Yeah, I want to talk realquickly about the flow state,
right, the elusive flows.
I actually wrote this littlepoem the other day.
Marilisa Lawless (34:44):
Oh cool.
Jeremy Wolf (34:45):
Tell yourself this story now.
Elusive flow state has beenfound.
Tune my soul with existence.
My only goal is no resistance.
Marilisa Lawless (34:55):
Wow, I love it goal is no resistance.
Jeremy Wolf (35:01):
Wow, I love it.
So it's so elusive, right, theflow state they're talking about
.
But when you get into thatgroove and I I notice it the
most when I play music and whenI'm, when I'm really plugged
into that and it's almost like adifferent person to write.
It's like it's, it's automaticand it's your joyful self.
Marilisa Lawless (35:15):
It's your joyful, joyful self.
Jeremy Wolf (35:17):
But it is so elusive.
Sometimes I'll sit down withthe guitar, I'll start playing
and I feel like, well, man, Ireally suck today.
Like what am I doing?
How do I get into that state?
Right, and like it's one ofthose things that you just have
to do the work.
You just have to be present,you have to.
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Whatever that practice lookslike for you, whether it's
meditation, whether it'sexercise, if you do these things
consistently, you start toprogram your mind in a way that
starts serving you and what youwant to do, whereas if you don't
create these habits, you knowcause we don't, we don't really
have control over what we do.
I mean, it's almost an illusionthe idea of free will, like
everything we're doing, allthese reactions, everything that
we're, the way we're operatingthe world, is basically the
programs that are running behindthe scenes.
That's like how do we refinethose programs in the way that
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best serves us and our life andwhat we want to do?
And I think the more you dothat you start tapping into that
flow state more and more andmore and it becomes less and
less elusive.
But it's been very elusive forme, as I'm sure it has been with
most people throughout my life,but I am tapping into it more
and more now which is cool.
Marilisa Lawless (36:17):
That's awesome , and I find that most men in
their forties are ready becausethey've already.
They've been working on thecareer, they've been working on
the family and they're finallyworking on themselves.
Women probably feel it at ayounger age because they have
had more responsibilities on onelevel or another for the family
, and it just is an amazingexperience when you let yourself
(36:43):
actually start to feel and it'sbeing connected to how you feel
.
That brings more of theemotional side of life.
People have a tendency to wantto avoid sadness, but if you
avoid the sad things in yourlife and you don't allow
yourself to just have a feeling,don't make a big deal about it.
(37:05):
It's like I feel sad right now.
I want to cry With.
That brings joy, becauseeverything is a give and take,
everything is a balance,everything is the yin yang.
It's all these things.
How do you bring more joy intoyour life?
Pay attention to those momentswhen you feel sad.
Notice the things that make youangry and what do you need to
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do to let it go?
Most anger is struck by fear.
So pay attention to the timeswhen you feel afraid and say, oh
, I'm afraid, why am I afraid?
I'm safe, I'm safe, I can letthis go.
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The quicker you can address thephysical or the emotional
responses that you're having,the more joy you're going to
have in your life.
The more you practice beingkind, being loving, the more joy
you're going to have in yourlife.
It does not mean that you don'texperience sad things or that
you don't get angry.
Sometimes You're not just thisemotional mush where you don't
feel anything.
No, it opens up this broadspectrum of who we were.
(38:11):
As babies.
We came into this world havingall of our feelings and we
learned to stop having them.
So as we move forward in ouradult lives, we realize, hmm,
something's missing.
How do we bring it back?
This is how we bring it back.
Give yourself 10 minutes in thedirt every day.
Give yourself, whether it's ina garden, whether it's in the
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grass, whether it's puttingboxes on a guava, do something
in nature.
I go outside of this office andI stand and I just stare at the
sun.
Every day.
I do it every day betweensessions, between when I have a
minute, when I'm feelingstressed, I'll go sit with the
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crystals, or I'll go outside andjust and the sun, just letting
the sun shine on my face.
It's not about getting a tan.
It's just about being gratefulthat I can actually still see
the sun and I can feel it, andit's about life.
You know, this is all.
How do we bring more joy, howdo we bring more healing, how do
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we bring more energy into ourlives that are positive?
We are.
It Change the way we think andwe change the way we feel we are
the medicine.
We absolutely are the medicine.
Jeremy Wolf (39:26):
Very cool.
Marilisa Lawless (39:27):
Well.
Jeremy Wolf (39:28):
I'm going to leave it at that, unless there's
anything else you want to share.
I think that's a good way toclose up here.
This has been a veryconstructive and useful
conversation and I am so excitedto continue this journey and
continue to implement thesepractices and spread the message
and try to do my best to live agood life and help others and
(39:49):
put a good vibe out into theuniverse Right.
Here's another one.
Marilisa Lawless (39:53):
I appreciate you, Jeremy.
Jeremy Wolf (39:55):
Here's another one for you High vibration, feel the
flow, expectations.
Let them go.
Step aside and clear the way,embark upon a brighter day.
Marilisa Lawless (40:08):
Woo Awesome.
Jeremy Wolf (40:09):
Love it, love it, all right Get that stuff out
there.
Marilisa Lawless (40:12):
Continue To be continued, absolutely.
Jeremy Wolf (40:16):
All right, Mari lisa, have a wonderful day.
I will see you next time.
Thanks, everyone for tuning inand we will catch you all in the
next episode of the Hemp DelSoul podcast.
Everyone, take care, have awonderful day, bye-bye.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
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podcast.
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com.
That's H-E-M-P-D-E-L-S-O-U-L.
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