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Hi, I'm Tam and I'm eternally mortal and this is the hidden egg podcast where we talk about vulnerability
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and stuff and things and
articles on medium comm and
You're listening to season 5 episode 5 today's theme is
summertime memories
Nice nice. I almost forgot what the theme was
Yeah, I was wondering cuz like I I miss said the theme earlier in the pre-show and I didn't know if that was gonna
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Haunt you somehow. No, I don't think it did. I just my brain just kind of dumped everything out
like, you know, like a purse
Yeah, that happens that happens so to people that are just coming in to
months of the
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The what is our show that the hidden egg?
What is wrong with my brain today?
New day new brain
So we first off we have
Sound bites now we have like 24 different sounds that people in the live audience can
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Make happen. I'm so happy that you're here or
Yes
And
second off I
We are trying to focus on
Articles that people want us to see for the theme
So I want to like kind of get ahead of the things we've been searching
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For people and that's still a thing that we are doing
but I also want to give people the opportunity to
Provide us with articles that they have written or plan to write
That will fit our future themes. So
Next week is an interview. So we're we're doing a two week in advance sort of thing by the time this comes out
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It'll be like a one week, but still
You know baby steps
Next week's theme we decided was what now movies and shows no religion religion, right?
religion
No idea what's happening to my brain we you know
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We hit the boop and we just have to go into our mode and it just doesn't always work out that great
And that just happens. Yeah, but I really question for you. What what's that? How's your toes?
How's your toes? God is back at us. How's your toes? God is mad at us. How's your toes? God is mad at us
I can't spam them like I did earlier. That's funny
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I wonder why it's like the regular it's like the regular episode is just like powerful
But pre-show gets to bubble I can I wonder why you can't
Well, I mean it's in such a way that you only hear the beginning of the word instead of the whole word
You know, that's what I was doing earlier
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Bubble like that. Did you not hear?
Yeah, I heard that. Okay, cool. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, cool. All right. That was fun
Anyway, anyway
Summer time memories is our theme for this this week's episode of the hidden a podcast and we found some bangers
Yeah, but before we do that I found well we found one article that does not fit the theme at all
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I mean, it's a summer theme
I think and it's a memory and it is a memory but it wasn't happy and and that was we wanted we wanted happy memories
this one is
really
pretty deep and dark
It's called it felt like the end of the world in the summer of 74 by Marsha Abud. I
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don't know if I'm butchering that last name, but
Right. Sorry if we are
But it was and the subtitles be
Reveal II honestly about the story, but the story reads both like a horror
film and like like a tragic
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real-life story
Right and now now that I'm looking at it. We should have known from the kicker childhood trauma cockroaches
Come on. Why did we miss that? How did we miss that?
What oh, yeah, I didn't see the kicker I don't know
This to me, but it was a great read
It was it was captivating like so captivating that I was like I have to finish this
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Like yeah, we're not gonna talk about it in depth or anything, but I still have to finish it
So I wanted to shout it out before we get started on the rest of them
Because it really what I mean it was clear that it wasn't gonna fit our half
I mean it was clear that it wasn't gonna fit our happy time summertime memories theme
Within paragraph within the first couple of paragraphs, but we still we just had to finish it
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It's ten minutes and we still had to finish it. It was great. Go check it out
So the others the next shout out
Does fit and it is happy
But we didn't have a whole lot to say about it from when we really thought about it because it's it's by the Sturge
It's about his family. It's it's a lot of stuff that if we tried to say it it basically would just be
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Reading the article and it's called the highlight of summer has always been our birthdays
Yeah, and I can say that you know
Sturge
No, I don't want to go too in-depth because I don't want to tell the story and everything but like I know what it's like
to struggle it summer just because the heat sucks and
finding a highlight like birthdays is such a delight and I thought Sturge really did a great job in
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Showing us his experience
With regard to summer. I hope I was vague enough. I feel like I did it wrong again. I think you just feel like that
I don't I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, okay, cool
Yeah, hang on what's wrong with me
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All right, so so yeah go check this one out it's it was really nice
I felt you know uplifted by his
Story and there were some slightly sad things in there too
But overall it was it was a net positive and made me wish that I had more birthdays and in summer
Right and it's another snapshot into the the mind of our friend Sturge, which we always love so
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The next one is I believe it's our last actual like shout out shout out technically
It's gonna be like a half week
Like a shout out
But this one's by Robin Wilding
Probably like she's pretty well known. I think by now
And it's called summer haze in a sweaty days and it was
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wonderful
But it was a song slash poem and to do much about it
Again is reading the the article but it left it left me
I don't know about you, but it left me just feeling like I had lived through snippets of every past summer
in
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The read the reading of it
Right. It was such a
It was as a song because like I was reading these aloud at this point when we came to this one
I tried to sing it. I tried to be a little sing-songy with it because I thought it was really cute and worded very well
but like my my
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Self-consciousness eventually got that better of me and I just kind of stopped after a certain point, but it was great
It was a great read and it convinced me that Canadians experience summer too
Which I was not convinced of prior to this moment. So good to know
Only for 12 days. I mean she says that
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There's still solidarity there and I appreciate it
All right, and then I guess the last like half shout out half we're gonna talk a little bit about it
Yeah
It's by Jennifer Hobrick
Or hobrich i'm not sure how to pronounce that last name. I'm so bad with names. I'm sorry guys and it's called
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Mastering the five levels of kids summer awesomeness
Yeah
and
This was such a cute article that
like
Really captured a lot of summertime memories and then gamified it
Yeah, that was my favorite part was the gamification. She she definitely dug into
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Childhood summertime memories not not not generic summertime childhood summertime memories
And and the way she like gamified it. Oh, I love that. I love gamifying life anything that gamifies my life is just
Amazing it helps me. It helps me see the world as something
That I can do and does that make sense
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Yeah, it absolutely makes sense
I mean it really just goes along with the human's kind of desire to have a little bit of control over things when you just try
Ascribe points to the things in the world then it gives you a feel like you
Have a little bit more autonomy than you did before and levels
It's the levels that really they really get to me
Because she gives she gives like different levels for things and you can like advance through the levels
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I just like that
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, but it was really good and you should check it out and read it to the end. It's got it's got
It's got levels. Yeah
It's got levels
All right
So the the first full in-depth talkie one is by sarah paris and it's called
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The grizzly roller coaster and my summer of bravery
Right and oh my god
Oh my god
Hang on i'm taking a drink of water
Sure, yeah, that's what it is
Yeah, that's what it is
So
I don't know if you had the the same experience tam but like
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I grew up in a place that did have an amusement park
Close enough that my parents were able to take uh me to the amusement park once or twice
growing up and so
The grizzly roller coaster for me was um
If I remember correctly in where I grew up the big roller coaster was called the beast
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Yeah, I didn't live anywhere near a roller coaster
But we did go to six flags like twice
um, once I went with my friends
because I
Think I I don't think I did I have a job? I think I might have had a job
by that point
And and bought my own tickets through school, but um
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yeah, most of my
roller coaster experience is just
Carnival rides to be honest
Yeah
I don't even remember
If I overcame my fear and actually rode the beast. I don't know
but this
Grizzly roller coaster my summer of bravery was such a and i'm trying to scroll your your copy up there
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Um was such a such a trip down immersive nostalgia
Nostalgia lane for me, honestly because like I kind of remember that I kind of remember
You know the feelings that kids have about competing
And being cool and everything like that and like this was so good
You could rewrite this into a freaking movie. Honestly, if you wanted to
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It'd be it'd be a great little heartwarming lifetime movie. Yeah
I'll be honest with you when I was younger. I didn't have that fear of
Of roller coasters. I did. Uh, I remember
Doing a
Riding the batman ride. It was amazing. I loved it
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It was scary, but like it lasted like a minute and a half
and I think
was like
Three g's or something like it was amazing
It was one of those like memories. I'll never I'll never forget and I I went on like the the screaming eagle and
the
Log flume thing. Oh, I remember that
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I had um, when I was a really really young kid, I did have an experience where we went to Branson
And we went to silver dollar city and there's
Kind of a roller coaster there. It's nothing like six flags, but they had
Some kind of roller coaster there and I think that was probably my earliest thing. So I had like these fond memories of that
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Okay, so I had like these fond memories of that
Okay to rely on but then like as I got older in my 20s you probably oops you probably remember
Roller coasters were not great for me
The no, yeah, the the like slowest roller coaster started like giving me panic attacks
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I don't know what happened. I think it might be like an inner ear thing or i'm not sure but like
Something about the movement now
It causes like an undue amount of anxiety and stress
Yeah, I kind of forgot. We did try the six flags thing very early in our
New year together, huh? Yeah, and we ended up in the lazy river. I think for them or the no the wave pool
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I think we did both and
Ain't nothing beat a lazy river, especially and now at this age. I'd definitely be a lot more
Safe about sunscreen but my god, that's so chill. Yeah, so I actually did
What sarah did in reverse?
Yeah, you kind of did didn't you a little bit absolutely
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But sarah's article like really captured a whole lot of the whole the whole feeling of it like there was
I mean, I don't know how deep we get into these to like give away story bits or whatever
But I mean there was the there is no way we can possibly do that
There was the there is no way we can possibly do the story enough justice for people to not want to read it
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Yeah, but there was a you know, uh, uh brave
A friend brought along that was seen as you know, the brave friend and then the understanding dad doing the best he can to like
Oh my god, that was the part that like I wish I had had that in my youth. I'm sorry, but like that
That's amazing because I grew up thinking that like the people that
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Could just do things and not even care
Those were those were the courageous people
That's not true
No, that's not that's not who's brave bravery requires some amount of fear
Right
Exactly. It's it's acting despite fear that creates courage that is what courage is
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I wish I and I wish I had known that because
I thought I was courageous
All those years when I was just doing things that other people didn't want to do but I didn't I wasn't afraid of it
right
But then like that
That that hurt me in in the long term sense. I'm sorry
I keep talking over you and it hurt me in a long term sense of like
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I thought that when I was afraid I needed to run away because I thought you know
I thought you know, I couldn't brave it
Because if you were braving it you wouldn't feel the fear right
Yeah
Exactly. I think a lot of people I think a lot of people feel that way
It's like if I was a brave person, I wouldn't feel this fear. It's like no no
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You can still be a brave but the brave the bravery is about the choice
Not the feeling the feeling that comes you don't have a choice over the feeling it just happens
right
Yep, and it's so hard to teach that to anyone under the age of what 25?
honestly
30 maybe
maybe
like the words can make sense to to some some young people but like I don't know that the
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reality of the situation makes sense until
you're looking at something and you're like
I I have no confidence that I can do this thing or that it's going to be okay or that i'm not going to get
hurt or that i'm not going to hurt other people but i'm going to do it anyway because I feel like
I need to or want to or it's worth it, you know
I'll tell you i've done a lot of my courage bravery building in my adult years post 30
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And it is a it is much much harder to do as an adult
You don't have that that folly of youth
of that the pre
Pre 30s people seem to still have even though they don't realize it. There's there's like this
unfounded confidence that y'all just come with
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And you you don't have that after 30 because after 30 you're like, oh my god, i'm gonna die one day
And like it's not like it's a secret
It's not like something that you just suddenly wake up and realize what that means and I don't know
I don't know how to explain that any other way
But it just it's something happens and you just no longer have that
That unfounded confidence in you anymore
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And it's so much harder
To be like I am afraid but i'm gonna do it anyway after 30
Because of that if you've never if you haven't had
Experiences where you did that prior
Right, it's it's easier to come by if you have a history of it certainly
No
Yeah
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I don't think sarah was i don't think sarah was above 30
but
You mean ow?
No, no when when the story took place, I think sure there was a 10 they were like 10 years old 11
Maybe which is also equally difficult because
fear at 10 years old is
phenomenal
It's huge. Yeah, honestly like, you know our protagonist for this story because this is a memory
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but but you know sarah was
uh would have been fourth grade mortals icon like
Fighting against that fear enough to go do it in front of people that you care about
It's amazing truly
and uh
I'm I don't think I ever did it. Honestly, I really don't think I ever rode the beast
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I'll need to go back. Maybe one day we'll have to go to a roller coaster
Brave that together
I have to yeah
Yeah
I'd have to go specifically to that one and I don't even know that that fucking coaster might be
Up defunct by now, but it shouldn't matter. I might I might need to take some things
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You do what you gotta do, you know you do what you gotta do
Like I can still feel afraid and not put my body in jeopardy of you know
Heart failure or something. I'm old, right?
Yeah
Exactly
So yeah worthy read right here definitely took took us both through some really
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intense
journeys in our head and
I don't know. I don't know what more to say about that that we haven't already said but
Yeah, and uh, sarah if you ever ever happen to listen to the episode. Thanks so much for writing it
It was a really really good story. I really
Really got me into my feels a little bit got me to my nostalgia a little bit. I appreciate that
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I think onto the next one ready. We can probably move on to the next one. Sorry
I keep interrupting you. I'm I don't know what's wrong. I don't know. I think you're doing I don't think we're doing great
It's great
Okay, the next one lies
The next one is by clara jane halloway
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Love that name by the way
And it is called a fling in the summer of 1970 taught me a valuable lesson
Yep
Uh
This one
Now I have to keep reminding myself that this was 1970. Yeah, the world the world was different in 1970 very
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So it
It reads like the early parts of this read like any
90s
uh teen romance movie honestly like it just shouts that and uh,
It was well written enough to like go there. Maybe it's because you brought up movies earlier
That's why movies are on my brain. Maybe all of a sudden. I don't know
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Anyway, actually, I think she says something about like patrick swaysy or something
Maybe she might have yeah
um
And
How deep do you want to get into this because like I
I thought the story was so well written because it went along this path showing us this
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You know like romance with all these details and all this little intricacies of what it was like and how it felt and how people
were affected and then
And then the turn happens. Yeah
Do you know what i'm talking about? Yeah, I know a turn. I believe I know the one that that that he's a jerk
Right like the turn happens and then it's kind of revealed in a paragraph or two or whatever that that he's not
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Great at the end of the day. Yeah
but the thing that bugs me is that it doesn't really seem like like
It wasn't written as him being a jerk and it it I wanted to be he was a jerk
So, yeah, um, it's really important. I think dude that that's why I brought up that it's from 1970
And it's clear that whatever happened
uh this this this writer has you know, not only forgiven him for the the way that he kind of
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I kind of unfortunately
Reacted at the end of that. Sorry. I'm stumbling over words now
We're trying really hard not to say what happens because I want people to go and read it because
with if we say what the turn is
it
It's gonna have a different feel when you read it
Yeah, the whole thing and honestly us saying anything negative about him
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I'm still gonna kind of turn it a little bit
But I think everyone knows I think everyone knows that like every 20 especially from
1950 to night to 2010 every 21 year old dude was a piece of
Let me just let you know
like that age for a masculine a cis
specifically cis gendered masculine person is just
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constantly
Just wrapped up in hormones. Let's say hormones
And say hormones instead of other more
Bad things to say
So and that's kind of just the way it is
um, but you know
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I really like the fact that she was very, you know, uh nostalgic and positive about the memory itself and got
Positives out of the experience and everything like that
I'm glad that she didn't let you know what inevitably happens when you hang out with a 21 year old for long enough
That it goes a little south. She didn't let that bring her down, you know
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Yeah, it would have been it would have given the reader
I think a little bit of some readers at least a little bit of like catharsis to be like
Wow, what an asshole at the end, you know, just just one of those
But it's not necessary to the story from my perspective
I do I do think that the message like the the lesson that she learns at the end
I do think that that is a valuable lesson. I just
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Personally, I would not
Have felt that that was the takeaway from if that had happened to me
Right, not what I would have taken away from it
Exactly, but it was very well written and you know this the article was published the story was published, uh
like
A week and a half ago roughly
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And we are in 2024 right now, which means this is a 54 year old memory
Yeah, well on top of that it helped me to realize something while we were reading it that I I don't know if you remember
I shared it with you when we read it together
um
That like what was the story?
That like as i'm reading through this i'm like thinking of myself like she was 17
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And I was thinking to myself man at 17. I never would have this would have never happened like I would never have
Thought this about like somebody I wouldn't have been in that position blah blah blah and been this vulnerable
Yeah, I wouldn't have been that vulnerable or naive even
And and I I started thinking about it and realized that like oh
This whole time in my life. I've thought that because I was like hyper sexualized
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at 14
And kind of put into a sexualized relationship way way way too soon
um with an older man
I was like I I I started like I thought that the things
that
Were vulnerable and naive that I went through
I thought that that was because I was just
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14
I was like well if I had been
Exposed to that stuff later
Then it wouldn't have happened that way it would have happened differently and now reading through this particular
Article I realized it's just the night negativity
It wasn't my age. It was the fact that it hadn't happened and I didn't have any experience with it
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Right lack of experience exactly and so easy to look back at our past selves and be like
What a silly silly person that did that how why would you do that? You silly person? Don't you know better and it's like no
No, we didn't they don't
not know better
Because it just didn't happen in such a way that we learned that previous but whenever we learned that
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That probably was a little traumatic right and like it still was like my age at 14
That was still way too soon
but the night tivity the vulnerability the
way people could take advantage of me that
That would have still happened later. Anyway, there was nothing saving me from that. It's just that I should not have been
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experiencing those things so soon
Right exactly
So this this this article like even with my my disagreement of the perspective
It really helped me to kind of see how
I don't know. We we learn lessons regardless of the age through just having experiences like this happen
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Right. Mm-hmm
Experience is our greatest teacher and always will be
we can have great teachers that we talk about from the past but
Experience is what really teaches us something
And it helps me to remember that um
Just because we age doesn't mean we've learned anything
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You know
Kind of true kind of true
I know some pretty ignorant old people is all i'm saying
So i'm i'm glad that she was able to find um a lesson
From the experience even if I don't even if I wouldn't have learned that lesson
It's not that I don't agree with her lesson being learned from her experience because that's not my place but
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Had I been in that same situation? I don't think that's what I would have taken away with it. So
Yeah, even so i'm still glad that she was able to find something
To learn from that experience to enrich her life and she seems to have worked out a pretty decent life from that
point so
You know it served her well
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Yeah, and I want to add real quick. I'm happy. She had the romantic experience that she had those weird
intimate romance
interactions that happen
Those have a special kind of beauty to them, especially if they don't
End up in actual trauma
Right, you know
Gotta love a summer fling
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Yeah, it's so cute and it's such an interesting thing
Yeah, it's so cute and it's such an interesting experience and not everyone gets to have them like it's kind of rare to a certain extent
And so i'm glad she had the experience and i'm glad that she went the direction that she did
Honestly, hopefully i'm not what are you gonna say? No, go ahead
Uh, I hope this isn't too spoilery. It's kind of a better version of the notebook if i'm being honest
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I can agree with that
And getting just a little bit personal and I can cut this out if you want me to but um
You and I were technically a summer fling
We were spring fling. Well, I guess that's true
It was around our birthdays. Yo. Yeah
It was warm though. Like it was it was pretty hot out. I did the same things that I did in that summer. So like
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I'm pretty sure it was it was hot. It was pretty hot
But I don't know that it was the temperature or the weather that was making it pretty hot
Anyway, um
No, uh, yeah, it was um, I think it was pretty warm around that time
If I remember correctly, but yeah, there's a little summer little spring fling in the summer
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summer fling in the spring
You can have a summer fling in the spring. There's a summer summer fling in the winter if you want. Okay
I'm just saying, you know, it was it was kind of it was kind of similar in a way
I mean it came back around to eventually being something more serious and
evolved into
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This wonderful relationship thing that we have now. It's hard to explain to people but you know
But yeah, we're besties for life at the point basically probably
so, um
This pretty awesome to me and even discounting everything except for the month that we had it was definitely my most successful and
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productive and amazing summer fling whether it was had in spring or not
Ever had I had many flings that I would consider but like a fling didn't even have to
end in a kiss like
I could just have a crush on someone
And then be friendly with me and then that was my fling and it was exciting and delightful
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So cute
And so they didn't some of them lasted a weekend and some lasted a week and yours and mine lasted a month
So it was pretty sick. Pretty awesome. Honestly from my perspective
cute
Thanks
All right, so now we're on to the last one
What's wrong with me on to the last one the last one was my favorite one by deborah g harman
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Med I don't know what that means, but that's part of her handle and it's called canning sweet summer memories under the stars
Yeah, it's exactly what it sounds like she was canning
during the summer
And that is literally what it sounds like
And that is literally all it is
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But it is the most amazing article about canning under the stars
And creating memories that i've ever read I
I wanted to cry
I felt
I felt fuzzy
and
warm and
Like I had just experienced
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A summer day and I was relaxing into the summer night with some jam
Homemade jam and some toast that's it gave me that feeling like I had that feeling after reading it. I loved it
Yeah, and the way I described it. I think if I remember correctly afterwards was that you know, it's
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it's almost like
You just got to hang out in this woman's mind while she was doing some of the
The activities that are necessary for the canning. Yeah
Because like her mind just kind of meandered to wherever it wanted to go and she didn't really seem to have
And this is this isn't a detriment. I understand that meandering and writing can seem like a bad thing
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But I thought it was a very flow. It was very very flowy for me
It flowed very well from one thought to the next and they didn't need to be connected because it genuinely felt like it was just like a
Doing an activity and allowing the mind to wander. It was so comfy. It was so comfy
It felt a little bit like she had invited us over for canning
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And we were just having a conversation and that flowed naturally
with this homey
Country feel not not like you know, ye old country or like ye ha country but like
just the down-home
farmer perspective my family was like I come from farmers, okay, so like
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That's that's probably part of what gives me that feeling but I think everybody has some amount of like that that
homey
Feeling of certain elements of the country aspect of like, you know canning your own stuff
Getting you know dirty trying to do the things
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I don't I don't know how to explain what I'm saying
But I think everybody has some kind of like homey feeling from that whole country atmosphere
Right, right, you know something simple like just creating
A tough food source taking taking a raw food source and turning it into a processed food of some sort
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and then enjoying it and
enjoying the memory of it
And where it came from and how it came to be and how you got there to be doing this thing
And what your history was like it's just it was just delightful and like i've never been the type of person that uh, like
rooted into a place too much
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Um, and you know had it to where like the same
I was around the same home for decades and decades so that I could
Just look around and see the memories of the place that I was born in is different from the place that I
Had a lesson which is different place. I went to high school in which is different than where I spent my early 20s
Which is different than where i've spent the last
17 years
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So
Being a little window into that perspective was really really cute to me and I really enjoyed it. I thought it was delightful
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't know how like what else to say about it, but this one was just hands down my favorite
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The summer memory that it has left me with was worth the read I may go read it again
Yeah, it was really really cute and it was just
a lady being
Honest about her experience. I love that shit
That's all I gotta say
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I need to write more of that stuff, too. I have so many memories
So so many memories
So thanks deborah harman for sharing your story with us. We really appreciate it
A little sharing like, you know writing it on medium. Yeah
So, um, nobody showed up for the live recording so I don't have anybody to thank
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Yeah, and I think this might be one of our shorter episodes. Um, this is a pretty busy day
and
Honestly after we stop the main show and get into after party. I'm gonna have to run to the bathroom
You know, that's pretty usual
I'm gonna have to run to the bathroom
Have to run to the bathroom. You know, sorry about that. That's pretty usual for sure
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um
But you know, here we are
It's definitely a lighter episode than it was last week last week was so heavy
In fact, we have this whole like this is heavy
Yeah, but you know, i'm so happy that you're here
Yeah, okay. Yeah, you mean it's time for me to oh, that's right. It's time for me to get into the
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Time for me to get into the oh, yeah, I can't I can't give you the cue because there's nobody to thank
Okay, so
Thank you
Wait to people who have been a part of the live recording previously
Yeah, absolutely
But wait, but wait
Do we want to talk about the youtube?
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Was that the thing we talked about?
Oh, yeah, that was a thing. I was going to tell people maybe
Well, no, I I think we decided against it because I wanted people to go to the substack instead
But we I do have um the main show
videos on youtube
So yeah, anybody listening
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Here you go
You could cut that if you wanted to but anyway, yeah
I I the uncensored version is on substack. So that is the superior place to find your hidden egg
podcast
episodes but
If you want, you know, if you're on youtube already, you might as well check us out
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Yeah, absolutely
and
you
Dear listener can be a part of our live action by joining our discord through the monster alley.com
I also has links to our articles spotify and substack
And special bonus the substack as tam just said is the only place to get the uncensored version
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I didn't say it wrong this time
But I want to thank you dear listener for coming along we really appreciate you lending your ear holes to us to let us
uh talk about some stuff into and um, it's always delightful to
To talk to you tam. Um, i'm eternally mortal
Oh, i'm eternally mortal and I hope you find smiles to stay really. Oh, thank you
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You
Um, and i'm the accidental monster you can find us both on medium.com
Or through the monster alley.com and remember to follow yourself always