December 23, 2024 • 66 mins
For the final episode of The Hidden Egg's 5th season, we interview Medium legend Robin Wilding!! Robin is a variety writer with a heavy emphasis on finding the funny. Many a Wilding piece has sent TAM and mort into giggles and guffaws.
We were happy to take a little tour down Robin's Medium journey and learn about her process and relationship with the platform. Come along, for this educationally hilarious Season Finale!! :D
Robin Wilding 💎’s Showcased Articles:
- How I Got Boosted…Repeatedly
- Am I Crazy, Or Is The World Nuts?
- Are There Tacos Over the Rainbow Bridge?
- Why I Never Birthed Freeloading Flesh Potatoes
- The Craptastically Easy Way to Pick a Niche
To watch the video version of this podcast, go to our Substack. For more about writing with vulnerability and information on articles discussed in the episodes, visit themonsteralley.com.
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Hi, I'm Tam
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And I'm eternally mortal and this is the hidden egg podcast where we typically talk about vulnerability
And stuff and things which will probably be more pertinent today. Yeah, this is our Christmas episode
Doing a little bit of a Christmas special all about the Xmas
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and I made a
Little gif in the chat. I saw that coming in and tagging. I need to say hi to make it to make it go
That's so cute and then after and then after we get done recording we're gonna do this again
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Always a classic
Yeah, but no, we aren't we're probably going to
Watch that spider anime. Yeah, we're definitely gonna watch some spider maybe make some food
But yeah, we're doing a podcast episode
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Hey, hey, how's it going? Hey, it's going it's been a while it has been quite a little while
Things are different now
We're different now, it's a whole other world now kind of is
Yeah, I'm being honest
Lots of things going on lots of
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Changes in the world since we talked last right
So many things we could talk about
So many oh
Actually, you know, I said that I wasn't going to do any medium stuff
But there is actually one thing that I might
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Want to
Talk about
Because you you just reminded me I
Don't know why you reminded me. I mean this whole like Trump being president thing that that's kind of like there all the time in my mind
Yeah
But
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I wrote this article
Called it in the wake of election grief
and it
It was you know after after the election. I grieved a lot of people
Who did not want Trump to be?
presidents were probably also grieving and
When I when I worked through it, I realized some things that actually gave me hope so
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There plaw I'll put it
In something when I do the things that I do with the podcast
And you do the things and there'll be a link and it'll be great. Yeah, it'll be great
Pretty sure I read that one. I can't remember. Yeah, you helped me edit it
Oh, that's right. I've been so absent from medium for quite a while now
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I've been out in the real world a little bit more. I guess you could say
The the physical reality that we also live in
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah, I don't know. I guess I could talk about some of that stuff too
But I got to keep it pretty vague in a lot of ways. Yeah, because you know
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businesses
Don't like
that
Yeah, and it's um
it's something that matters to me too because uh
Well, first of all, I kind of love vulnerability
I kind of really enjoy the concept and I want it to be promoted as far and wide as it can be. I really think it's a
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A great tool that humanity has to be able to understand each other and help each other
But to be purely vulnerable would you know talk about exactly what's going on in my life and I
Can't do that
because it is a corporation situation where
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you know my corporation if they uh
Were able to be tied back to me would potentially be upset about my positions on things. Hey ben
Hey, where's where's the soundboard?
Open sound we'll go back then. Thank you
Howdy howdy howdy we're just talking about the
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um, I uh, i'm kind of like finding
a bit of a passion for
Workplace safety in a general regard and it's been an interesting progression for me in the last three three to six months
and uh
I'm i'm i'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying finding out this new aspect of my nerd personality
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Not only do I want to deep dive into things way further than most people do
Um, and I want to follow the rules and be a good boy. I also want to help everyone around me be safe. So
Tangentially hey ben, did you miss us?
Because you know, we've been away for a while
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Like ben didn't notice I don't know he might not have a lot's been going on the world's been busy
So very much, oh I feel loved
I caught one of your articles somewhat recently ben or no, maybe I just saw that you wrote about
Piece of media that I liked and I wanted to check it out, but I forgot to
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I like it when you write about the media that I like ben. It's some good shit just so you know
Yeah, you know what actually I think it was because I got drunk a weekend or so ago and my saturday was a complete
And total loss to hangover, but the only four hours I spent awake and alive. I was watching interstellar and crying deeply. So yeah
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Yeah, that was that was rough
That was a rough day for all of us
I think it was a rough day for me too
So yeah, yeah, that was that was rough. That was a rough day for all of us
Yeah
There was another one that I saw that he had been um
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Fully wrote about and I don't remember what it was. It wasn't the interstellar one, but it was some
Obscure media thing. Oh that uh midnight nation
Right, right the cartoon that I I think I told ben about
Long long ago that I was like hey, I think you'd be interested in this
Midnight mass. Yes that midnight mass
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Yeah, I saw I haven't read it but I saw that you wrote on it and I was like
Oh, I need to read that and then promptly forgot because that's how adhd works
Oh, oh not a cartoon
Oh what
Are we I guess we're not talking about the same thing
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Yeah, probably two different things but still sounds interesting a horror show
What's mike flanagan? Why do I know that name? I don't know. I know that name from something too. I'm gonna look it up
Oh
The haunting guy gotcha
Okay, so I was just mistaken because definitely not a horror thing what I was thinking of was a cartoon
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Well, you know things I'm pretty sure it was midnight nation that I was thinking of
Nation mass it's all the same
Anyway, so yeah, that's kind of my update is the nation's the comic book that I really like fuck
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What was it it was it was on netflix
And it's trippy as hell
I swear it was midnight something
Okay, but midnight nation
Strongly recommend it was it that's a great that's that one comic book that I have this like
Falling apart because I've read it so many times
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Okay, gotcha gotcha
And you want something on netflix called midnight
And you want something on netflix called midnight?
Midnight something. Wait, you can't hear that can you?
I I don't hear anything
Good. Was it called the midnight gospel? Yes. That's the one that's why it
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It's all midnight. There's all these midnights
Yeah, midnight gospel
Added it is added to my list
It's trippy and it's cool and it's it's actually like a cartoon
based on a bunch of like interviews with
spiritual people
And some of the spiritual people are a little like out there but
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most of them are kind of cool and and
helpful in my opinion
Right on ben ben didn't want to commit to the watching of it. Yeah, I think it's like 12 episodes
It's pretty short. So but it they they're long episodes. They're like an hour long or something
45 minutes an hour or something like that
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I like that
There is a cohesive there is a cohesive story
To the whole thing but each one is its own world
Oh, that's cool. So it's pretty cool
Yeah, well it's not just podcasts in general. I think it was this one specific podcast and and they took the
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discussion of the podcast and then they animated it
but they also like
It was weird because there's there's also like points in
What had to be the podcast where they like respond?
To things that are happening in the cartoon that have nothing to do with the podcast
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No, no, I thought it was I thought it was really neat
Interesting, did you ever see waking life?
Yes, yes that the the thing that came out like around the early 2000s late 90s
Yes
I watched that one on acid. It was amazing. And that's what it was. It was just conversations of people
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I don't remember what the conversations were about anymore. I don't either I was advised not to watch it while tripping
So I only watched it while it was high and that was pretty trippy enough
God it was amazing. I don't remember any I remember a watch. I remember there there was there was this thing about the watch
He was like staring at his watch for a long time
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And uh, and then there was like an out-of-body experience and something about stairs and that's
That's all I retained from that but it was it was good. I remember that
Yeah, I really liked it. Also. I really like Ethan Hawking
He had a brief brief role in it anyway, um, so uh
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Do you want to maybe talk about some of the stuff that you got going on that was on that list that you told me about?
Um, I have blue hair
You want to talk about that?
We can talk about the blue hair. Absolutely. I don't know that there's a lot to say about it
But I tried to dye my hair blue. I've been trying to do it for a while
I don't know that there's a lot to say about it, but I tried to dye my hair blue. I've been trying to do it for like years
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like years
and I just couldn't get up the
The courage I guess because once you're once you dye your hair blue like it's blue
And first of all, there's like this social connotation to like when you go out and and then people see you with blue hair
Like that means something like they look at you and they have their own ideas
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And it's everybody's got a different idea about what it means for somebody to tie their hair blue
But I don't have any control over that and it's
added attention
Where my regular hair color is, you know
basic
mousy gray brown
and unnoticeable
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But then on top of that there's the uh
The concern about dying everything blue
around me
right
and like both of those have just
It they've just been too much of a hurdle for me to to overcome until recently
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Well, i'm glad you overcame it that's awesome overcoming hurdles pretty sick
Yeah, and then once I once I made the decision to uh to to dye my hair then I had even more hurdles
Because the the sink
Um, the garbage disposal and the sink went out so like we couldn't I couldn't use the sink
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And that's the only sink that I can use to dye my hair blue because it's metal
Backwards boob endeavoring, I don't know what that means
Backwards boob
Backwards boob backwards boob though is the thing
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Anyway, um
I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means
Yeah, but that's kind of the tam way, you know
Once you overcome a large hurdle then it's just like another like six like baby hurdles after it that
For some reason you still gotta hop over. You know what I mean?
Yeah, and and then when I did actually dye my hair blue
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You remember when like I dyed my hair blue and everybody was like, oh it looks good. And i'm like it looks like shit
I'm like I'm gonna dye it it like looked like it had already gotten through the fading
I'm like y'all know what it's supposed to look like. This is not it
Because the dye was so old
It was only like a few years old, but I guess that's too much
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Yeah, that makes sense
And then when I dyed it again and it it did actually take
But it was only two ounces worth of dye and i'm i'm used to there being four so it didn't spread very well
so even though it's dyed blue it uh
There's there's there's definitely splotches that aren't completely dyed. So I have to dye it again
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Well, it's never gonna be perfect perfect, but it looks a lot more vibrant now and I think that that's what you were going for
I mean, it doesn't have to be perfect, but it could be done. It could be right
Uh-huh
I'm still trying to uh, i'm still endeavoring to translate backwards boob endeavoring like i'm uh
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i'm going through the ideas of what those words could mean together and
Like a backwards boob
Isn't that just a butt no, no, maybe
Maybe
Maybe it is a butt. I mean, that's what I would I wasn't even thinking about the words
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I was thinking about like what's what's a boob that's backwards?
No, it's the butt
Yeah
Makes sense. I guess if the boob itself is forwards
then
The backwards boob would be the butt
I love our podcast we can talk about anything. This is so much fun
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anyway, um
cool. Yeah blue hair
awesome, you've joined a um
You know a crew very interesting online personalities people have a lot of people have done the blue hair thing
I missed it. I'm also distracted by uh cat gifts
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But I missed having I missed having blue hair I I think
I think I might just keep dying my hair blue
from now on
Yeah, potentially that's cool. I'm okay with that
I'm I'm trying to I'm trying to be more uh, authentically me in my real life
I love how that cat like turned into sonic at the end
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I know
Did you know that hedgehogs
Hedgehogs are actually fast in real life
I did not know that
I don't remember why they had to be fast
But there was something like I don't know there's some some there's something about it
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Maybe you should look at interesting
Do you mean look it up now? I mean why not?
Because I was gonna segue to a different animal fact
Oh
Our hedge my work crush told me that dragonflies are the most predatory creatures or something like that the most predatory
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I don't know how you get most predatory
What does that even mean?
I don't remember what the actual words were and that would make a big difference for this discussion that you and I are
having about it because you're gonna take the words very seriously and I don't remember what the actual words were but
Um, my work crush really likes dragonflies is my point and I just like talking about my work crush
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Shut up
Yes hedgehogs can be surprisingly fast for their size with the top speed of around five miles per hour in short bursts
Yeah, there was there's something more about it but it's fine
It is somebody compared um hedgehogs to sonic and uh
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There was there was an interesting something in there but I don't remember why okay
Sorry, well, I don't know about that. But everything I see is interesting. I don't understand why the cat flies after grabbing the uh,
the sushi
Just an edit
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Almost looks like the cat was like picked up by the scruff. Yeah, it does look that way
Also anybody tuning in now, um for the recorded version Merry Christmas because this is probably going to go out
On like Christmas Eve or something?
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Definitely definitely just before Christmas. I don't I don't know when i'm gonna get that out
Murph me croftmarsh
what
to everybody and to all uh,
Good night
Mark Markman Markman
Camper snacks, you don't even know what you said. Do you?
No, happy happy holidays
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Happy holidays
So, uh, so i've been doing blue sky lately
Yeah
Okay. So now that we're actually like talking in a place where other people can hear us
Let's really talk about the blue sky thing because I haven't really
Like it's a new twitter. Yeah, it's basically the entirety of what i've gotten. Yeah, it's basically
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When I go there, it really feels like how twitter used to feel
like twitter twitter
But like a little like a hint of also mastodon
Okay, but not as confusing because because mastodon was pretty confusing
For me and none of these maybe not to other people but to me it was
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And none of these are sub stack. They're all different than sub stack. They're all different than sub stack
Um ben asked how how it was like mastodon. I
because it's not um
It just has this sort of like wild west feel to it
And I imagine twitter probably had that feeling in its like first couple of years, too
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But I wasn't a part of that. I don't know what twitter was like in its literal infancy
But mastodon I was there for the first like year
That it was a thing and and it had a little bit of a
It was a thing and and it had this this roughness this raw
Energy of like this is something new
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And and blue sky has that it has that whole like anything's possible vibe
Yeah, I hope it goes well
I got really sad to see that a lot of the things on the internet in the past like 25 years
They were new and you know wild westie and anything's possible and lawless landscapes and then a lot of them turn to like
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White supremacy and pedophilia and it's like here's the thing about that
Uh for blue sky anyway, I don't know about these the other ones you're talking about
And I'm not super confident about mastodon going anywhere
But blue sky I I only got onto it because hank green
Has one and started started talking about it on his youtube channel
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And then I started noticing other people were saying they were also on blue sky that were youtubers and i'm like like big youtubers and i'm like this
This is a sign. This is a sign that I need to get on there because this is this is definitely the new twitter
All right, right on we'll see how it goes
Maybe I should jump in and just see what it's like
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Is it have the the just i'm gonna randomly send a silly message to the entirety of the world. Yep
Feel that twitter does okay, cool
Yeah, and and so i'm gonna explain
something
That I don't really understand
But I understand it enough to explain this part of it
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I think that blue sky is going to revolutionize social media because
it has so
They have this thing on on social media
Everything all social media things and they there's like when people post right
It goes through what I think they call a pipeline or something something like that fire hose fire hose
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And it's just it's it's everybody's shit all at the same time in in one big big ass thread, right?
Okay, and with twitter
the fire hose
Is owned by twitter
It's proprietary
Oh
Right
So so if you wanted to use that like to collect data to you know
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scrape different
Like hashtags from it or whatever you had to go through twitter because twitter owned that
Mastodon and blue sky on the other hand have been because of what happened with twitter
These social media and and there's other ones too. These are just the two that I know of
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They've been trying to decentralize that aspect so that the fire hose is actually public property
Nobody owns it and therefore everyone can build on top of it
That's cool
and so blue sky is blue sky is their proprietary thing built on top of this
(23:53):
Non-proprietary fire hose if that makes sense
Sure sure kind of yeah now you probably now understand it about as well as I do
Right on
I might look into it a little bit
I might look into it at some point. I wonder if some of the folks that I like are on it
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like the uh
the real small streamers and stuff that I
Find interesting. I have a feeling the small streamers don't have the resources to be able to diversify like that just yet
until
blue sky becomes super popular and is like
everywhere
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Hank green is sort of like
He's he's a he's a big youtuber, but he's like a medium youtuber in the big youtubers sphere
You know what I mean? He's got enough money to hire a team to deal with blue sky specifically
But he's not as well known as some of the other youtubers
sure
The ones you know like I don't know that they have a budget to like
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Create a position for somebody just to handle blue sky for them
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it's just that a lot of the people that are doing the content creation grind
Via video they have to they feel like they have to you know
Maintain every social media presence that they possibly can and so
When those people start including blue sky into their you know regimen
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alongside
Heckin instagram and you know old school twitter. I'm gonna call it now
and
We know ben is on there
On blue sky yeah
Well ben's cool. We know ben's cool
So that is true ben is pretty cool. Yeah
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I can see ben getting into something that fucking uh
Crashes and burns because it didn't go well at all and no one ever hears about it
But ben ben happened to be there for the beginning of it. I can see that happening
There's a few people out there that I've met that are like
That niche that could be that cool, but you know, it's just my perception anyway
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Yeah, nifty fella I fully agree I forgot about reacting
Let's put a little pull a guy on there
And a boob. Pull a guy on there
Just one. Is that a boob? That is a boob
Just one though
Anyway, I mean there are two
I mean there are two
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They look identical but but they are different there we go there we go awesome
Now what are you gonna do?
Oh now now I have to
There we go
There we go. We've we've solidified it. It is a triple
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triple breast triple parabreasts
Yep, we've we've made it to
Um that Arnold Schwarzenegger movie that happens on mars in the 80s
I can't remember the name of so you want to talk about overwhelm
Yeah, I think you should I agree we should yeah, so when
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when I initially
said that I was gonna uh, you know ask you if you wanted to
Do the podcast for a Christmas special?
I don't know if you remember but I
I had this plan
of like putting out
a promotion for um a new overwhelm journal that I'm making
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And then like the closer it got to the podcast the more
I don't know. It just felt like the more stuff I had to do to to make that happen
Okay, and then like this week
I don't I don't know why I am this way and i'm working it out. I'm i'm getting through it, but um
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When I have a lot on my plate
And a little
amount of time to do it in so like, you know, basically i'm overwhelmed
I just
Even though like I'm like, I'm like
Even though like i'm stressed out and i'm like I need to get this stuff done
I end up not doing those things and instead seeking distractions like playing that stupid game
(28:29):
I don't know if you saw me play playing that stupid game, but there's this this stupid game. It's just a stupid game
Sure, I don't even know like it's a claw game
Oh, I love it. Fantastic. It's it's really fun
But like
I knew when I started playing and i'm like this is going to be a bad idea
And it was it was a terrible idea because my brain's like I want to do that. That's what I want to do
(28:54):
I don't want to do any of this work. I want to do that. Let's play that
And then last night
I was like trying to like
I'm still trying to push myself to do the things and like I only have to do these things
I like cut out what I really needed to get done and like
All that stuff but then at a certain point I was like why why am I why am I doing this?
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I'm just falling back into the same habits
Why is this always a rush? Like I don't I don't need to be that way
Yeah, I don't that's true. I don't need
to
Plug the overwhelmed journal
right now
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We can just do the podcast it can be completely scary
It can be completely scuffed
And have some fun with it
And I can I can establish a new
lifestyle for myself where i'm not
Giving in to my own pressure
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Yeah, I love that idea I think that's great
I mean, how am I going to make anything that helps anybody else with their overwhelm if i'm too busy?
drowning in my own
Right. Also, have you considered using your overwhelmed journal now?
I did okay. So that's that's a part of this. So like I I've been meaning to print out
(30:23):
so I have three versions of it i've got the um
Um, the mini which is just a couple pages to be printed out and I was going to use that
But I kept forgetting to print it out
Because I was distracting myself from doing any of the work
(30:44):
Yeah, because part of overwhelm is
Avoiding addressing the overwhelmed thing. Yeah
You know what I mean?
I wonder if that's something you need to put into it. Anyway, I wasn't trying to like continue the promotion of the thing
That you said that you weren't no
No, I mean that is definitely something that I need to look into and and figure out
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Because it's it's a big deal
I didn't it didn't occur to me
but
I was not prepared
Like I didn't get to so there's I I
A lot of people say that overwhelm is one specific thing. I see overwhelm as stages
right
so like there's like stage one overwhelm where like
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You know that it's coming like if you keep doing what you're doing
but like you could just get through it ton barrel through it and and
Then you'll be fine
You know then there's like stage two where it's like
It's it's imminent like it's coming. It just hasn't hit you yet and you're just hoping to god that if you close things out
(31:48):
quickly that
None of your plans will get derailed, but you know, you're gonna be down for the count for a while
And then there's stage three overwhelm where you've already you've already hit rock bottom
You you aren't doing shit
You can't you're struggling you're struggling to get out of bed that day
right, so
(32:08):
Like I I feel like um the journals that like I was I was doing
They help with
the stage three
Overwhelm, but what I experienced this week was kind of like this weird
This weird part of stage one
Or maybe like when it crossed over from stage one into stage two
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Sure, and this is like a I don't think everybody has this whole like
Being distracted thing when they get overwhelmed because this doesn't happen to me every time either
Right, so I think it's it's kind of case specific so I I didn't have anything to help myself
With this particular aspect because the journals aren't
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Like they're more broad. They they just help broadly with overwhelm
From my experience
Well cool
Sorry, I'm kind of yeah, you seem you seem distracted
What you doing?
Uh, I was looking up an uh
(33:14):
You know those things that are like letters where they put letters in a thing
mailbox
When they uh just use the first letter of the alphabet, I'm sorry the first letter of each word to just make a um
A thing the first letter of each word was phrase
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Maybe an anagram
Maybe an anagram. No, wow my brain
Why are you what are you looking it up for?
It's not important. I I just got distracted. I don't want to talk about what it is
Yeah, well, I was in the middle of like saying something and you were obviously and I got lost so bored with what I was saying
I was not at all
(33:57):
You started doing something
completely different
Um, well there was a reason why it distracted me, but I don't want to talk about it. I'm sorry
I will absolutely talk to you about it after the podcast though. Um,
Sorry about that. Okay. Oh, did you like leave on a place where you were waiting for a response from me?
Um, it felt like there were things that could have been responded to i'm not gonna lie, but you know, whatever we can move on
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Yeah, I understand
I uh, I I mostly wanted to bring up the whole overwhelmed thing because I felt like um
At this point
I felt like I had succeeded
Oddly enough by failing by letting myself fail by by looking at the situation and saying I don't need to
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I don't need to get this done right now
I can still do it the next time like this is just the christmas special
But you know what this christmas special means?
We're gonna do the podcast again
That's true like
We because we said three months ago. We're like we were not gonna commit to anything
That might be the end
(35:10):
We're just gonna take this three-month break and see what happens and
And then I was like I really miss doing the podcast
Really miss doing the podcast
But I don't I'm like, I don't know if I want to do the podcast the way it was being done
Yeah, um, we haven't really figured out what we're going to do like technically
(35:33):
No, we may end up like season three all over again or was that season four?
Season three season three because season two was the anime season and then season three was where we were just
We were just like whatever we're just talking
Right and it might just be that and that was the season three
Right, and it might just be that and that was probably the most fun
(35:56):
One that we did
Maybe I think so. Well, we got like no traction for it
But well, it was most fun when you know, our our buddies were hanging out and reacting in chat
Yeah, that was when the fun happened. I think that was season
Just four and five, wasn't it?
Um, I thought people came around for season three, but maybe they didn't
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I don't think I don't think we were recording them live
Like I don't think we allowed uh, we're recording them a place where people could hang out with us when they were doing it. So
Yeah, but I don't know
I don't remember
Look at the monkey such a cute monkey
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Anyway
But yeah, um moral of the story sometimes when you're overwhelmed you just have to let it go
And be like, you know what?
My deadline is a bad deadline
It was asking too much
Right exactly and we all ask too much of ourselves all the time
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Thank you ben
I agree
I think directionless podcast. I mean very interesting a little directionless maybe but
completely directionless
Well, he didn't nobody said completely directionless
Yeah, but I mean well, but that's what our podcast is kind of right now because there's no like today's
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Episode is mostly about christmas, but we're going everywhere
We haven't really talked about christmas. We barely talked about christmas. It's not really to overwhelm
That's sort of really to overwhelm. That's true
Um
But yeah, I have no idea what we're going to
talk about
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In the future for our podcast
No idea no direction
I do still like vulnerability though
I do
Theologies do you mean theology?
Theology because there's a space that you put in there and i'm i'm confused about what ologies are
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I'm not being an asshole
i'm i'm like
Literally actual so existing podcast called ology there is
Is that a podcast that exists?
Or are you saying?
That we are our podcast should be about whatever ologies are
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I'm so confused the ologies podcast science podcast
Oh, you want to talk about science
No, probably more like check out this podcast to see what it's like for people to just talk about whatever
Um
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Um, I don't know how to do that
If steve knows how to do that you can you can give him
um
Speaking ability but in voice it's
It's a little more complex
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Yeah, I found the podcast i'm currently trying to remember how to do this
I know I wish I wish that they would just let us use the soundboard in the uh
The other channel the hell is that other channel called?
the
Amphitheater channel. I forgot what it's called stage stage. Yeah that
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But they won't it doesn't let you use soundboard stuff. So we can't we can't do the funny little
little sound bites
over there
But it's way easier to just let people speak
Over there, uh, do you think if I gave?
If I gave ben the role of pod speaker he'd be able to speak. I mean that does sound
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Like it would yeah, I I knew I had it set up for the interviews last season. So
Try it out
Hey ben, can you unmute if you can't unmute then let me know in chat
If you can unmute let me know
If you can unmute let me know in voice
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Shy biscuits
Shy biscuits indeed
How's your toes no luck yet, all right
Yeah, I do not know how to
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Show non-video participants. Yeah, I do not know if it was on the stage
The one that's muted because I don't even have a way to mute him
What do you mean like
Like can ben
Unmute himself
He cannot
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When he goes to click the button to unmute himself, nothing happens or it possibly gives him a pop-up that says you are not
allowed to speak here
to
more than likely
And it's because of the way you set up the permissions for the whole channel
And roles and everything. Um
But it worked for the interviews
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Didn't we do those on the stage? No, did we? Yeah, we did. Uh-huh
We did you were sad because we couldn't use the
Um sounds during the interviews
I guess that's possible
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I am such a noob at at discord
I don't get it. I need somebody to just do it for me
I need to make money so I can pay somebody to just do it for me
Excuse me. I'm so sorry burping into the camera mic
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Since we don't have the wall gremlin anymore
Right
Sigh
Well, I feel like the moment passed
Do you think the moment passed? I think the moment passed but it sounds like you're still working on it
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I am still working on it
Um, I may somehow inadvertently give ben too much power but we'll see that's okay. He'll abuse it. I'm seeing changes
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Um, I just gave ben personally permission to speak in this specific channel
I don't know if that happens immediately or if discord is good at that sort of thing, but if it works
Then ben might be able to unmute and ben said all is good and I know ben
I know that you're not upset about it. Like you're cool, but like, uh, I just got my teeth into it, you know
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Okay
Take it easy buddy
Have a good oh, we probably I hope I didn't make him uncomfortable by focusing on it too much
anyway, um
I don't know what our podcast is going to be in the future either yet, but
Um
I clearly have lost all of my stamina for my attention span and everything. Yeah, it seems like
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I'm so sorry
you know all of this, um, this like weirdness has got me thinking about
Our our podcast and like I know that we say that it's about vulnerability
But like I feel like it's more accurate for it to be like you never know what you'll find
Okay, you know because it feels like that kind of hidden egg not
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Not not as much because I mean we're vulnerable but
It's so random
Yeah, yeah, it is pretty random we're all over the place
Is that okay? Yeah, okay that we're all over the place. Do you think so? I think so
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I enjoy it
personally
I
I hear so i've been i've been watching these um these youtube videos by
dan
something
I don't remember his last name but he's talking about like being a one man
Or one person business online and and one person brand and blah blah blah
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And and one of the things that he says about podcasts is like that's that's the place to be authentic
It's not yeah, that's not the place like some people can use their podcast to be an authority
but
For the most part you just want to be authentic because that's where people hear your voice. That's where you can be a person
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Right
And and I think we do really well with that
I don't think we got like I don't know how how we're gonna appeal to people being people but
You know
Well, we'll figure that I think that's mostly me marketing poorly
me marketing
poorly
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And uh, and that's part of what blue blue sky is about i'm i'm gonna start um posting
Like when this comes out i'm gonna post
At least once on blue sky possibly both christmas eve and christmas day
To be like, you know, hey, have you seen our christmas special blah blah and and maybe maybe we'll get people
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listening
Maybe maybe we'll get people that are interested. Maybe we'll get people that are like who the hell are these weirdos?
But like can't click away, you know
That'd be cute. We'll see
Absolutely
We like friends
We do like friends
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It'll be interesting though i'm trying really hard to come back to
sub stack and medium and it just
I feel like I feel like i've been burnt
Like I don't know if i'm burnt out on them yet, but it seems real close
Yeah
(47:10):
Sorry to hear that but are you finding some freedom from them at all like
How do I say that because medium used to be like a
Part of you, you know what I mean? You were so into it that if you didn't do it
It felt like you were missing part of yourself
So have you been able to like, you know
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Break those chains at all
Kind of but it's um, it's been painful
Because like I I knew it was painful being in it at a certain point because i've been put I was putting songs on it
At a certain point because i've been put I was putting so much energy
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Into something that was not giving me anything
of note back
And while I did have a month that I reached like 80 bucks for the month
The amount of work I put in to get that 80
Was depressing
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And the work that I put in
Yeah, I would I would have hoped that would be like real work like actual writing
but no the work was
Reaching out to different people and reading and commenting on their shit
That's not real work. That's that's something you're supposed to be entertaining
(48:38):
Right or at worst networking
No, because like networking is
better than that
When I when when so when other people talk about networking once you've made you've established the contact that is networked
You don't have to keep going back to reestablish the contact you you go back. Yes, you go back to to like
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Check in on them and everything, but that's not what this was
For medium
You know like doing it the way that I had to do it because I guess I don't I don't know
Maybe everybody does it like that on medium. Um, but
It's more like if you don't read something that they've read they've forgotten about you
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Right you cease to exist
You don't they don't come back wondering. Hmm. I wonder where tam's at
I wonder what's going on with tam
Let's see if tam wrote anything that might be interesting. No, they don't they don't do that. They they literally only
respond to people that they
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That are reading on theirs
And I just I just couldn't justify continuing and I think substack is probably different
probably
probably
But I got so burnt out by medium that I just didn't have it left to really put into substack yet
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Yeah
It's so much harder to put yourself out there than people make it seem like you know
all the
crazy people on twitter
that just
Seem to have no problem blatantly and proudly putting forth their crazy
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misogynistic or white supremacist ideals and
It's like I don't know how they have the energy
Or like the confidence or whatever it is takes to be able to do that because it's like
I get a good joke that I get a good laugh out of and there's
Almost no shot in hell that someone's gonna be able to convince me to put that onto twitter or blue sky not yet
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I have a theory
What's that? I have a theory about that. So people who are
misogynistic or racist or you know any of those
those
objectively terrible things like
We're just gonna call a spade a spade. They're they're terrible people
um
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Not that they couldn't change they don't have to be terrible, but they're terrible when they say it
Until they decide that it's not right
right
terrible perceptions
That perception like it comes with this
Rebellious
argumentative
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nature to it
so when they put it out there it almost
Is guaranteed
That no matter how many people see it
Somebody is going to see it that doesn't like it and it feels in the need
to say something
Against it
And that feeds that feeds the beast because it's coming from a perception that is argumentative by nature
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And so when somebody comes along who isn't a terrible person who's like I need to call out this terrible person for being a terrible person
They're really just feeding
The argumentative beast and that gives them more energy to post that shit more
True when you're not a terrible person and you aren't you aren't trying to get arguments
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It's a lot harder because what you really want is people to be engaged because they enjoy it or because it uplifts them
Or because it enriches their life and the amount of people that are willing to comment about those things
Are a lot less than the people that are willing to comment calling something out that offended them
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That's true
And that's why it's harder to put out good shit and so much easier to put out hate
Yeah, yeah, I hate that
Maybe we maybe we should put that out. I hate hate
Hate hate I hate how it's gonna go how it's so easy to put out hate
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We're gonna go on the the hate
Can't even fucking use words
I know
What's wrong with me?
Sorry
Bye
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Oh
My god, that was the best placed womp womp ever
How's your toes oh good lord, oh I snorted
(53:45):
We're expecting that one, huh? No, I was not
I don't even remember what I was saying. It doesn't matter. Whatever who gives a shit hating hate. That's what we were talking about
Oh, yeah hating hate
Hating hate and it's not even hating haters
Because like, you know, I want to I want to help the haters but like the hate itself. I hate the hate
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I think I think in order to and maybe this is maybe this is what I need to start like thinking about seriously
But it seems like what does well in this climate because maybe it's not
Forever. Maybe it's just a cycle that humans go through that hate is easier to perpetuate than good stuff
(54:31):
Yeah
But the only way like the only things that are positive that seem just as easy to put out there as the hate as the bad shit
Are funny shit making fun of the bad shit
So you got to take like the bad shit that's happened like
Have you heard of josh johnson
(54:53):
The name sounds familiar he's a comedian
and
This morning I was watching
His most recent youtube video special thingy. It's like an hour long
And uh, and it was all about like the whole set was about the ceo shooting
(55:16):
Really, yeah, and it was great
It was hilarious
But he also made some sobering points
So there were like like it was this huge. It was this journey through like
You know the way I speak where i'm like
You know, it's severe and it's important but then like there's a laugh
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And then you know
It I don't know how to do that
And maybe that's what is needed
In order to put good into the world. We have to
Like filter it. We have to filter the shit
through comedy
To make
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The daisies or roses or whatever
But i'm I don't know I think i'm funny, but I don't know that i'm a comedian
Sure, I understand that I think you're funny, but you know
Comedy is so subjective
I'm funniest as a two-man set
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Because i'm too autistic I think
for
A singular thing without I'd have to study it. I'd have to figure it out study the formulas and shit
In order to do it myself, but I I think I go really like I do really well
When i'm
You know the
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the fool
Really yeah
I think you're a straight man, honestly
You think i'm really I guess sometimes sometimes but that's my part of my foolishness
Is that I don't understand
Yeah
Exactly
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So that's why I think this this uh this podcast format works because
I work really well with
With the two-man setup
I think we work really well together too
Although this episode is probably not great
As evidence of that
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I don't know. I really I feel like it
Yeah, do you well we we were away for like three months
Four months. I don't know however long it's been a long time
months
Multiple months many months we had to go
We had to excavate the whole mine and it felt that our podcast machine fell into
I had to test my setup again
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Yeah, which I probably should do every time but I don't
I just feel super out of practice like
I've been
At my place of business. I've been going around and talking to people fucking constantly like that's the whole thing that i'm doing is that i'm just
Talking to people about workplace safety all the time and it's going really well and apparently i'm making
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Sense, but then I sit down with you now
after months and i'm like man, I don't know if i'm making any sense at all or if i'm just like
Well at your work, you're you're talking to all of them about very specific things
Like you know what you need you you know what you're talking about like the topic not not that you know
(58:34):
Like the information but you know the topic and you know what you need out of the
Interaction, you know who to talk to what you're talking about why you're talking to them and and what you need from them like
What do we know about the podcast? We know that we're here
Yep, we know it's for christmas
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Merry
Merry christmas, Merry Christmas
To your list
Yep, murphy
So I think based on the the
Impromptu nature of our podcast you should give yourself a break
It's probably a good idea. I feel like i'm mumbling too, but I appreciate the the help
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I'm just a real self-critical today apparently. Yeah, what's up with that?
What's up with that? Why are you uh, why are you so critical?
of yourself
Just in general today
Like yeah, I don't know why today. Um
But I care about the podcast and I want to do a good job with it
(59:40):
And so, you know
I did feel a little I guess lost even though you had some topics for us to talk about
It just seemed like it was more difficult today to put the words into an order that made sense
Than it has in other days or at least what I remember from the podcast
I feel like i've said some pretty good shit on the podcast, you know here and there
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but
I don't feel like I have any good shit to say today
Nothing at all. Yeah, that's okay
There's nothing wrong with that
No, it's christmas
It is
It's christmas
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It's christmas. It is
You know, if if people don't like our christmas special then they don't have to listen to it
But some people are gonna like it
And they may be like well, this wasn't that big of a like this wasn't super interesting, but I like the people
I like their characters
(01:00:46):
Right. That's true. Also christmas specials aren't like always supposed to be really good. Sometimes they're really really bad
Yeah, you know, I think it works no matter what well, you know, uh, good mythical morn
I don't know what they do for christmas, but every thanksgiving they do a non-episode
They record an update every every year every year now on thanksgiving. They record an episode
(01:01:10):
Where they do as little as possible for the episode this past thanksgiving their episode
Was them sitting like laying in?
a bed
It was on on the stage. So it wasn't like their beds, but like just laying in a bed
Not doing anything
(01:01:30):
And that was the episode that was the whole episode was them trying not to talk to each other
Was them trying not to think too hard?
To not do anything
Interesting and the reason why they do that is because nobody watches those anyway in their likes for the few people that do
We're gonna keep making these videos, but we're gonna make them with as little effort as possible because fuck it
(01:01:57):
Interesting
So I like people watch those people watch those we did watch those
We we definitely watched those on thanksgiving I think did you watch the other way through yeah
Hell, yeah
Yeah, I haven't since they started doing this like literally the year they started doing the the no effort thanksgiving episodes
(01:02:23):
I haven't missed one
Hell, yeah
The kind of dedication my watch doesn't count because i'm watching it with ghost
So they don't see my added watch time in in their metrics, but still like
Yeah, but you know about it I know right right and then i'm talking about it and here here I am talking about it so
(01:02:47):
Right, but yeah, I like that same idea for ours like this is this is our christmas episode
It doesn't have to be anything special because it's already special because it's coming out around christmas
That's true
That's true and if that's not enough then obviously
You're not the person we're doing this for
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So true
How do you want to
How do I want to what
Hello
Hi, sorry. I was laughing. How do you want to wrap this episode up?
It's been a little over an hour now
(01:03:29):
And my stamina is pretty shot
as evidenced by
Me and you
Just whenever my stamina is shot
I just do not remember
your cadence of speech
and so
I
Always interrupt like four times in a row and it is hilarious every time it happens
(01:03:54):
So my apologies about that, but is and how do you want to wrap up this episode?
Well first off you're totally forgiven and i'm sorry
Because that's partially my fault for not giving you space to speak
Yeah, that's okay, no worries forgiven
But uh, yeah, we can we can just wrap it up here if you want. I'm almost out of my tea now, so
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Important to to note
Um, okay. Cool. Well, uh, we don't really have like the uh, you know
The regular words that we would say I would say
You know the regular words that we would say I don't think because we're not really promoting anything besides
Yeah, I was I was going to but then then the whole thing happened. So
(01:04:41):
I guess if if I have anything to put
With like anything in my overwhelmed journal to put with this episode
Then i'll i'll do that. But if not, then next episode maybe i'll have it
Yeah, we'll see check out keep your keep your ear your ear, uh earbuds and eyeballs open for
(01:05:03):
You know future episodes because there will be future episodes coming in 2025
Of the hidden egg podcast, yes, thank you very much listeners for coming along. We really appreciate you. I hope you've been
Uh, uh, uh, no, I was gonna try
Oh my god, um, I hope you find smiles this day
(01:05:24):
Oh, i'm eternally mortal. I'm eternally i'm
i'm
i'm eternally mortal because like
That's me
And I hope I hope you
Find smiles this day
(01:05:45):
And i'm the accidental monster
accidental monster you can find me on
Substack on blue sky
Probably also medium. I haven't quit that just yet
Um, i'm putting this on youtube
You can find me in a lot of places and uh
(01:06:07):
I don't like my tagline of follow yourself always anymore. So I think in 2025 i'm gonna find a new one
so, uh for now just
We're gonna go with fine smiles and merry christmas
Yep, murpy demarchus and uh fine smiles
Hi, I'm Tam
(00:01):
And I'm eternally mortal and this is the hidden egg podcast where we typically talk about vulnerability
And stuff and things which will probably be more pertinent today. Yeah, this is our Christmas episode
Doing a little bit of a Christmas special all about the Xmas
(00:24):
and I made a
Little gif in the chat. I saw that coming in and tagging. I need to say hi to make it to make it go
That's so cute and then after and then after we get done recording we're gonna do this again
(00:57):
Always a classic
Yeah, but no, we aren't we're probably going to
Watch that spider anime. Yeah, we're definitely gonna watch some spider maybe make some food
But yeah, we're doing a podcast episode
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Hey, hey, how's it going? Hey, it's going it's been a while it has been quite a little while
Things are different now
We're different now, it's a whole other world now kind of is
Yeah, I'm being honest
Lots of things going on lots of
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Changes in the world since we talked last right
So many things we could talk about
So many oh
Actually, you know, I said that I wasn't going to do any medium stuff
But there is actually one thing that I might
(02:01):
Want to
Talk about
Because you you just reminded me I
Don't know why you reminded me. I mean this whole like Trump being president thing that that's kind of like there all the time in my mind
Yeah
But
(02:23):
I wrote this article
Called it in the wake of election grief
and it
It was you know after after the election. I grieved a lot of people
Who did not want Trump to be?
presidents were probably also grieving and
When I when I worked through it, I realized some things that actually gave me hope so
(02:50):
There plaw I'll put it
In something when I do the things that I do with the podcast
And you do the things and there'll be a link and it'll be great. Yeah, it'll be great
Pretty sure I read that one. I can't remember. Yeah, you helped me edit it
Oh, that's right. I've been so absent from medium for quite a while now
(03:11):
I've been out in the real world a little bit more. I guess you could say
The the physical reality that we also live in
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah, I don't know. I guess I could talk about some of that stuff too
But I got to keep it pretty vague in a lot of ways. Yeah, because you know
(03:33):
businesses
Don't like
that
Yeah, and it's um
it's something that matters to me too because uh
Well, first of all, I kind of love vulnerability
I kind of really enjoy the concept and I want it to be promoted as far and wide as it can be. I really think it's a
(03:56):
A great tool that humanity has to be able to understand each other and help each other
But to be purely vulnerable would you know talk about exactly what's going on in my life and I
Can't do that
because it is a corporation situation where
(04:16):
you know my corporation if they uh
Were able to be tied back to me would potentially be upset about my positions on things. Hey ben
Hey, where's where's the soundboard?
Open sound we'll go back then. Thank you
Howdy howdy howdy we're just talking about the
(04:39):
um, I uh, i'm kind of like finding
a bit of a passion for
Workplace safety in a general regard and it's been an interesting progression for me in the last three three to six months
and uh
I'm i'm i'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying finding out this new aspect of my nerd personality
(05:01):
Not only do I want to deep dive into things way further than most people do
Um, and I want to follow the rules and be a good boy. I also want to help everyone around me be safe. So
Tangentially hey ben, did you miss us?
Because you know, we've been away for a while
(05:23):
Like ben didn't notice I don't know he might not have a lot's been going on the world's been busy
So very much, oh I feel loved
I caught one of your articles somewhat recently ben or no, maybe I just saw that you wrote about
Piece of media that I liked and I wanted to check it out, but I forgot to
(05:45):
I like it when you write about the media that I like ben. It's some good shit just so you know
Yeah, you know what actually I think it was because I got drunk a weekend or so ago and my saturday was a complete
And total loss to hangover, but the only four hours I spent awake and alive. I was watching interstellar and crying deeply. So yeah
(06:06):
Yeah, that was that was rough
That was a rough day for all of us
I think it was a rough day for me too
So yeah, yeah, that was that was rough. That was a rough day for all of us
Yeah
There was another one that I saw that he had been um
(06:28):
Fully wrote about and I don't remember what it was. It wasn't the interstellar one, but it was some
Obscure media thing. Oh that uh midnight nation
Right, right the cartoon that I I think I told ben about
Long long ago that I was like hey, I think you'd be interested in this
Midnight mass. Yes that midnight mass
(06:49):
Yeah, I saw I haven't read it but I saw that you wrote on it and I was like
Oh, I need to read that and then promptly forgot because that's how adhd works
Oh, oh not a cartoon
Oh what
Are we I guess we're not talking about the same thing
(07:10):
Yeah, probably two different things but still sounds interesting a horror show
What's mike flanagan? Why do I know that name? I don't know. I know that name from something too. I'm gonna look it up
Oh
The haunting guy gotcha
Okay, so I was just mistaken because definitely not a horror thing what I was thinking of was a cartoon
(07:37):
Well, you know things I'm pretty sure it was midnight nation that I was thinking of
Nation mass it's all the same
Anyway, so yeah, that's kind of my update is the nation's the comic book that I really like fuck
(07:59):
What was it it was it was on netflix
And it's trippy as hell
I swear it was midnight something
Okay, but midnight nation
Strongly recommend it was it that's a great that's that one comic book that I have this like
Falling apart because I've read it so many times
(08:23):
Okay, gotcha gotcha
And you want something on netflix called midnight
And you want something on netflix called midnight?
Midnight something. Wait, you can't hear that can you?
I I don't hear anything
Good. Was it called the midnight gospel? Yes. That's the one that's why it
(08:45):
It's all midnight. There's all these midnights
Yeah, midnight gospel
Added it is added to my list
It's trippy and it's cool and it's it's actually like a cartoon
based on a bunch of like interviews with
spiritual people
And some of the spiritual people are a little like out there but
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most of them are kind of cool and and
helpful in my opinion
Right on ben ben didn't want to commit to the watching of it. Yeah, I think it's like 12 episodes
It's pretty short. So but it they they're long episodes. They're like an hour long or something
45 minutes an hour or something like that
(09:29):
I like that
There is a cohesive there is a cohesive story
To the whole thing but each one is its own world
Oh, that's cool. So it's pretty cool
Yeah, well it's not just podcasts in general. I think it was this one specific podcast and and they took the
(09:55):
discussion of the podcast and then they animated it
but they also like
It was weird because there's there's also like points in
What had to be the podcast where they like respond?
To things that are happening in the cartoon that have nothing to do with the podcast
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No, no, I thought it was I thought it was really neat
Interesting, did you ever see waking life?
Yes, yes that the the thing that came out like around the early 2000s late 90s
Yes
I watched that one on acid. It was amazing. And that's what it was. It was just conversations of people
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I don't remember what the conversations were about anymore. I don't either I was advised not to watch it while tripping
So I only watched it while it was high and that was pretty trippy enough
God it was amazing. I don't remember any I remember a watch. I remember there there was there was this thing about the watch
He was like staring at his watch for a long time
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And uh, and then there was like an out-of-body experience and something about stairs and that's
That's all I retained from that but it was it was good. I remember that
Yeah, I really liked it. Also. I really like Ethan Hawking
He had a brief brief role in it anyway, um, so uh
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Do you want to maybe talk about some of the stuff that you got going on that was on that list that you told me about?
Um, I have blue hair
You want to talk about that?
We can talk about the blue hair. Absolutely. I don't know that there's a lot to say about it
But I tried to dye my hair blue. I've been trying to do it for a while
I don't know that there's a lot to say about it, but I tried to dye my hair blue. I've been trying to do it for like years
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like years
and I just couldn't get up the
The courage I guess because once you're once you dye your hair blue like it's blue
And first of all, there's like this social connotation to like when you go out and and then people see you with blue hair
Like that means something like they look at you and they have their own ideas
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And it's everybody's got a different idea about what it means for somebody to tie their hair blue
But I don't have any control over that and it's
added attention
Where my regular hair color is, you know
basic
mousy gray brown
and unnoticeable
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But then on top of that there's the uh
The concern about dying everything blue
around me
right
and like both of those have just
It they've just been too much of a hurdle for me to to overcome until recently
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Well, i'm glad you overcame it that's awesome overcoming hurdles pretty sick
Yeah, and then once I once I made the decision to uh to to dye my hair then I had even more hurdles
Because the the sink
Um, the garbage disposal and the sink went out so like we couldn't I couldn't use the sink
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And that's the only sink that I can use to dye my hair blue because it's metal
Backwards boob endeavoring, I don't know what that means
Backwards boob
Backwards boob backwards boob though is the thing
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Anyway, um
I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means
Yeah, but that's kind of the tam way, you know
Once you overcome a large hurdle then it's just like another like six like baby hurdles after it that
For some reason you still gotta hop over. You know what I mean?
Yeah, and and then when I did actually dye my hair blue
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You remember when like I dyed my hair blue and everybody was like, oh it looks good. And i'm like it looks like shit
I'm like I'm gonna dye it it like looked like it had already gotten through the fading
I'm like y'all know what it's supposed to look like. This is not it
Because the dye was so old
It was only like a few years old, but I guess that's too much
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Yeah, that makes sense
And then when I dyed it again and it it did actually take
But it was only two ounces worth of dye and i'm i'm used to there being four so it didn't spread very well
so even though it's dyed blue it uh
There's there's there's definitely splotches that aren't completely dyed. So I have to dye it again
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Well, it's never gonna be perfect perfect, but it looks a lot more vibrant now and I think that that's what you were going for
I mean, it doesn't have to be perfect, but it could be done. It could be right
Uh-huh
I'm still trying to uh, i'm still endeavoring to translate backwards boob endeavoring like i'm uh
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i'm going through the ideas of what those words could mean together and
Like a backwards boob
Isn't that just a butt no, no, maybe
Maybe
Maybe it is a butt. I mean, that's what I would I wasn't even thinking about the words
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I was thinking about like what's what's a boob that's backwards?
No, it's the butt
Yeah
Makes sense. I guess if the boob itself is forwards
then
The backwards boob would be the butt
I love our podcast we can talk about anything. This is so much fun
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anyway, um
cool. Yeah blue hair
awesome, you've joined a um
You know a crew very interesting online personalities people have a lot of people have done the blue hair thing
I missed it. I'm also distracted by uh cat gifts
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But I missed having I missed having blue hair I I think
I think I might just keep dying my hair blue
from now on
Yeah, potentially that's cool. I'm okay with that
I'm I'm trying to I'm trying to be more uh, authentically me in my real life
I love how that cat like turned into sonic at the end
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I know
Did you know that hedgehogs
Hedgehogs are actually fast in real life
I did not know that
I don't remember why they had to be fast
But there was something like I don't know there's some some there's something about it
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Maybe you should look at interesting
Do you mean look it up now? I mean why not?
Because I was gonna segue to a different animal fact
Oh
Our hedge my work crush told me that dragonflies are the most predatory creatures or something like that the most predatory
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I don't know how you get most predatory
What does that even mean?
I don't remember what the actual words were and that would make a big difference for this discussion that you and I are
having about it because you're gonna take the words very seriously and I don't remember what the actual words were but
Um, my work crush really likes dragonflies is my point and I just like talking about my work crush
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Shut up
Yes hedgehogs can be surprisingly fast for their size with the top speed of around five miles per hour in short bursts
Yeah, there was there's something more about it but it's fine
It is somebody compared um hedgehogs to sonic and uh
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There was there was an interesting something in there but I don't remember why okay
Sorry, well, I don't know about that. But everything I see is interesting. I don't understand why the cat flies after grabbing the uh,
the sushi
Just an edit
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Almost looks like the cat was like picked up by the scruff. Yeah, it does look that way
Also anybody tuning in now, um for the recorded version Merry Christmas because this is probably going to go out
On like Christmas Eve or something?
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Definitely definitely just before Christmas. I don't I don't know when i'm gonna get that out
Murph me croftmarsh
what
to everybody and to all uh,
Good night
Mark Markman Markman
Camper snacks, you don't even know what you said. Do you?
No, happy happy holidays
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Happy holidays
So, uh, so i've been doing blue sky lately
Yeah
Okay. So now that we're actually like talking in a place where other people can hear us
Let's really talk about the blue sky thing because I haven't really
Like it's a new twitter. Yeah, it's basically the entirety of what i've gotten. Yeah, it's basically
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When I go there, it really feels like how twitter used to feel
like twitter twitter
But like a little like a hint of also mastodon
Okay, but not as confusing because because mastodon was pretty confusing
For me and none of these maybe not to other people but to me it was
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And none of these are sub stack. They're all different than sub stack. They're all different than sub stack
Um ben asked how how it was like mastodon. I
because it's not um
It just has this sort of like wild west feel to it
And I imagine twitter probably had that feeling in its like first couple of years, too
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But I wasn't a part of that. I don't know what twitter was like in its literal infancy
But mastodon I was there for the first like year
That it was a thing and and it had a little bit of a
It was a thing and and it had this this roughness this raw
Energy of like this is something new
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And and blue sky has that it has that whole like anything's possible vibe
Yeah, I hope it goes well
I got really sad to see that a lot of the things on the internet in the past like 25 years
They were new and you know wild westie and anything's possible and lawless landscapes and then a lot of them turn to like
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White supremacy and pedophilia and it's like here's the thing about that
Uh for blue sky anyway, I don't know about these the other ones you're talking about
And I'm not super confident about mastodon going anywhere
But blue sky I I only got onto it because hank green
Has one and started started talking about it on his youtube channel
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And then I started noticing other people were saying they were also on blue sky that were youtubers and i'm like like big youtubers and i'm like this
This is a sign. This is a sign that I need to get on there because this is this is definitely the new twitter
All right, right on we'll see how it goes
Maybe I should jump in and just see what it's like
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Is it have the the just i'm gonna randomly send a silly message to the entirety of the world. Yep
Feel that twitter does okay, cool
Yeah, and and so i'm gonna explain
something
That I don't really understand
But I understand it enough to explain this part of it
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I think that blue sky is going to revolutionize social media because
it has so
They have this thing on on social media
Everything all social media things and they there's like when people post right
It goes through what I think they call a pipeline or something something like that fire hose fire hose
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And it's just it's it's everybody's shit all at the same time in in one big big ass thread, right?
Okay, and with twitter
the fire hose
Is owned by twitter
It's proprietary
Oh
Right
So so if you wanted to use that like to collect data to you know
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scrape different
Like hashtags from it or whatever you had to go through twitter because twitter owned that
Mastodon and blue sky on the other hand have been because of what happened with twitter
These social media and and there's other ones too. These are just the two that I know of
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They've been trying to decentralize that aspect so that the fire hose is actually public property
Nobody owns it and therefore everyone can build on top of it
That's cool
and so blue sky is blue sky is their proprietary thing built on top of this
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Non-proprietary fire hose if that makes sense
Sure sure kind of yeah now you probably now understand it about as well as I do
Right on
I might look into it a little bit
I might look into it at some point. I wonder if some of the folks that I like are on it
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like the uh
the real small streamers and stuff that I
Find interesting. I have a feeling the small streamers don't have the resources to be able to diversify like that just yet
until
blue sky becomes super popular and is like
everywhere
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Hank green is sort of like
He's he's a he's a big youtuber, but he's like a medium youtuber in the big youtubers sphere
You know what I mean? He's got enough money to hire a team to deal with blue sky specifically
But he's not as well known as some of the other youtubers
sure
The ones you know like I don't know that they have a budget to like
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Create a position for somebody just to handle blue sky for them
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it's just that a lot of the people that are doing the content creation grind
Via video they have to they feel like they have to you know
Maintain every social media presence that they possibly can and so
When those people start including blue sky into their you know regimen
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alongside
Heckin instagram and you know old school twitter. I'm gonna call it now
and
We know ben is on there
On blue sky yeah
Well ben's cool. We know ben's cool
So that is true ben is pretty cool. Yeah
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I can see ben getting into something that fucking uh
Crashes and burns because it didn't go well at all and no one ever hears about it
But ben ben happened to be there for the beginning of it. I can see that happening
There's a few people out there that I've met that are like
That niche that could be that cool, but you know, it's just my perception anyway
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Yeah, nifty fella I fully agree I forgot about reacting
Let's put a little pull a guy on there
And a boob. Pull a guy on there
Just one. Is that a boob? That is a boob
Just one though
Anyway, I mean there are two
I mean there are two
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They look identical but but they are different there we go there we go awesome
Now what are you gonna do?
Oh now now I have to
There we go
There we go. We've we've solidified it. It is a triple
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triple breast triple parabreasts
Yep, we've we've made it to
Um that Arnold Schwarzenegger movie that happens on mars in the 80s
I can't remember the name of so you want to talk about overwhelm
Yeah, I think you should I agree we should yeah, so when
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when I initially
said that I was gonna uh, you know ask you if you wanted to
Do the podcast for a Christmas special?
I don't know if you remember but I
I had this plan
of like putting out
a promotion for um a new overwhelm journal that I'm making
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And then like the closer it got to the podcast the more
I don't know. It just felt like the more stuff I had to do to to make that happen
Okay, and then like this week
I don't I don't know why I am this way and i'm working it out. I'm i'm getting through it, but um
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When I have a lot on my plate
And a little
amount of time to do it in so like, you know, basically i'm overwhelmed
I just
Even though like I'm like, I'm like
Even though like i'm stressed out and i'm like I need to get this stuff done
I end up not doing those things and instead seeking distractions like playing that stupid game
(28:29):
I don't know if you saw me play playing that stupid game, but there's this this stupid game. It's just a stupid game
Sure, I don't even know like it's a claw game
Oh, I love it. Fantastic. It's it's really fun
But like
I knew when I started playing and i'm like this is going to be a bad idea
And it was it was a terrible idea because my brain's like I want to do that. That's what I want to do
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I don't want to do any of this work. I want to do that. Let's play that
And then last night
I was like trying to like
I'm still trying to push myself to do the things and like I only have to do these things
I like cut out what I really needed to get done and like
All that stuff but then at a certain point I was like why why am I why am I doing this?
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I'm just falling back into the same habits
Why is this always a rush? Like I don't I don't need to be that way
Yeah, I don't that's true. I don't need
to
Plug the overwhelmed journal
right now
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We can just do the podcast it can be completely scary
It can be completely scuffed
And have some fun with it
And I can I can establish a new
lifestyle for myself where i'm not
Giving in to my own pressure
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Yeah, I love that idea I think that's great
I mean, how am I going to make anything that helps anybody else with their overwhelm if i'm too busy?
drowning in my own
Right. Also, have you considered using your overwhelmed journal now?
I did okay. So that's that's a part of this. So like I I've been meaning to print out
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so I have three versions of it i've got the um
Um, the mini which is just a couple pages to be printed out and I was going to use that
But I kept forgetting to print it out
Because I was distracting myself from doing any of the work
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Yeah, because part of overwhelm is
Avoiding addressing the overwhelmed thing. Yeah
You know what I mean?
I wonder if that's something you need to put into it. Anyway, I wasn't trying to like continue the promotion of the thing
That you said that you weren't no
No, I mean that is definitely something that I need to look into and and figure out
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Because it's it's a big deal
I didn't it didn't occur to me
but
I was not prepared
Like I didn't get to so there's I I
A lot of people say that overwhelm is one specific thing. I see overwhelm as stages
right
so like there's like stage one overwhelm where like
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You know that it's coming like if you keep doing what you're doing
but like you could just get through it ton barrel through it and and
Then you'll be fine
You know then there's like stage two where it's like
It's it's imminent like it's coming. It just hasn't hit you yet and you're just hoping to god that if you close things out
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quickly that
None of your plans will get derailed, but you know, you're gonna be down for the count for a while
And then there's stage three overwhelm where you've already you've already hit rock bottom
You you aren't doing shit
You can't you're struggling you're struggling to get out of bed that day
right, so
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Like I I feel like um the journals that like I was I was doing
They help with
the stage three
Overwhelm, but what I experienced this week was kind of like this weird
This weird part of stage one
Or maybe like when it crossed over from stage one into stage two
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Sure, and this is like a I don't think everybody has this whole like
Being distracted thing when they get overwhelmed because this doesn't happen to me every time either
Right, so I think it's it's kind of case specific so I I didn't have anything to help myself
With this particular aspect because the journals aren't
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Like they're more broad. They they just help broadly with overwhelm
From my experience
Well cool
Sorry, I'm kind of yeah, you seem you seem distracted
What you doing?
Uh, I was looking up an uh
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You know those things that are like letters where they put letters in a thing
mailbox
When they uh just use the first letter of the alphabet, I'm sorry the first letter of each word to just make a um
A thing the first letter of each word was phrase
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Maybe an anagram
Maybe an anagram. No, wow my brain
Why are you what are you looking it up for?
It's not important. I I just got distracted. I don't want to talk about what it is
Yeah, well, I was in the middle of like saying something and you were obviously and I got lost so bored with what I was saying
I was not at all
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You started doing something
completely different
Um, well there was a reason why it distracted me, but I don't want to talk about it. I'm sorry
I will absolutely talk to you about it after the podcast though. Um,
Sorry about that. Okay. Oh, did you like leave on a place where you were waiting for a response from me?
Um, it felt like there were things that could have been responded to i'm not gonna lie, but you know, whatever we can move on
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Yeah, I understand
I uh, I I mostly wanted to bring up the whole overwhelmed thing because I felt like um
At this point
I felt like I had succeeded
Oddly enough by failing by letting myself fail by by looking at the situation and saying I don't need to
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I don't need to get this done right now
I can still do it the next time like this is just the christmas special
But you know what this christmas special means?
We're gonna do the podcast again
That's true like
We because we said three months ago. We're like we were not gonna commit to anything
That might be the end
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We're just gonna take this three-month break and see what happens and
And then I was like I really miss doing the podcast
Really miss doing the podcast
But I don't I'm like, I don't know if I want to do the podcast the way it was being done
Yeah, um, we haven't really figured out what we're going to do like technically
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No, we may end up like season three all over again or was that season four?
Season three season three because season two was the anime season and then season three was where we were just
We were just like whatever we're just talking
Right and it might just be that and that was the season three
Right, and it might just be that and that was probably the most fun
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One that we did
Maybe I think so. Well, we got like no traction for it
But well, it was most fun when you know, our our buddies were hanging out and reacting in chat
Yeah, that was when the fun happened. I think that was season
Just four and five, wasn't it?
Um, I thought people came around for season three, but maybe they didn't
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I don't think I don't think we were recording them live
Like I don't think we allowed uh, we're recording them a place where people could hang out with us when they were doing it. So
Yeah, but I don't know
I don't remember
Look at the monkey such a cute monkey
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Anyway
But yeah, um moral of the story sometimes when you're overwhelmed you just have to let it go
And be like, you know what?
My deadline is a bad deadline
It was asking too much
Right exactly and we all ask too much of ourselves all the time
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Thank you ben
I agree
I think directionless podcast. I mean very interesting a little directionless maybe but
completely directionless
Well, he didn't nobody said completely directionless
Yeah, but I mean well, but that's what our podcast is kind of right now because there's no like today's
(37:29):
Episode is mostly about christmas, but we're going everywhere
We haven't really talked about christmas. We barely talked about christmas. It's not really to overwhelm
That's sort of really to overwhelm. That's true
Um
But yeah, I have no idea what we're going to
talk about
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In the future for our podcast
No idea no direction
I do still like vulnerability though
I do
Theologies do you mean theology?
Theology because there's a space that you put in there and i'm i'm confused about what ologies are
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I'm not being an asshole
i'm i'm like
Literally actual so existing podcast called ology there is
Is that a podcast that exists?
Or are you saying?
That we are our podcast should be about whatever ologies are
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I'm so confused the ologies podcast science podcast
Oh, you want to talk about science
No, probably more like check out this podcast to see what it's like for people to just talk about whatever
Um
(39:00):
Um, I don't know how to do that
If steve knows how to do that you can you can give him
um
Speaking ability but in voice it's
It's a little more complex
(39:27):
Yeah, I found the podcast i'm currently trying to remember how to do this
I know I wish I wish that they would just let us use the soundboard in the uh
The other channel the hell is that other channel called?
the
Amphitheater channel. I forgot what it's called stage stage. Yeah that
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But they won't it doesn't let you use soundboard stuff. So we can't we can't do the funny little
little sound bites
over there
But it's way easier to just let people speak
Over there, uh, do you think if I gave?
If I gave ben the role of pod speaker he'd be able to speak. I mean that does sound
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Like it would yeah, I I knew I had it set up for the interviews last season. So
Try it out
Hey ben, can you unmute if you can't unmute then let me know in chat
If you can unmute let me know
If you can unmute let me know in voice
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Shy biscuits
Shy biscuits indeed
How's your toes no luck yet, all right
Yeah, I do not know how to
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Show non-video participants. Yeah, I do not know if it was on the stage
The one that's muted because I don't even have a way to mute him
What do you mean like
Like can ben
Unmute himself
He cannot
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When he goes to click the button to unmute himself, nothing happens or it possibly gives him a pop-up that says you are not
allowed to speak here
to
more than likely
And it's because of the way you set up the permissions for the whole channel
And roles and everything. Um
But it worked for the interviews
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Didn't we do those on the stage? No, did we? Yeah, we did. Uh-huh
We did you were sad because we couldn't use the
Um sounds during the interviews
I guess that's possible
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I am such a noob at at discord
I don't get it. I need somebody to just do it for me
I need to make money so I can pay somebody to just do it for me
Excuse me. I'm so sorry burping into the camera mic
(42:30):
Since we don't have the wall gremlin anymore
Right
Sigh
Well, I feel like the moment passed
Do you think the moment passed? I think the moment passed but it sounds like you're still working on it
(42:53):
I am still working on it
Um, I may somehow inadvertently give ben too much power but we'll see that's okay. He'll abuse it. I'm seeing changes
(43:14):
Um, I just gave ben personally permission to speak in this specific channel
I don't know if that happens immediately or if discord is good at that sort of thing, but if it works
Then ben might be able to unmute and ben said all is good and I know ben
I know that you're not upset about it. Like you're cool, but like, uh, I just got my teeth into it, you know
(43:41):
Okay
Take it easy buddy
Have a good oh, we probably I hope I didn't make him uncomfortable by focusing on it too much
anyway, um
I don't know what our podcast is going to be in the future either yet, but
Um
I clearly have lost all of my stamina for my attention span and everything. Yeah, it seems like
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I'm so sorry
you know all of this, um, this like weirdness has got me thinking about
Our our podcast and like I know that we say that it's about vulnerability
But like I feel like it's more accurate for it to be like you never know what you'll find
Okay, you know because it feels like that kind of hidden egg not
(44:33):
Not not as much because I mean we're vulnerable but
It's so random
Yeah, yeah, it is pretty random we're all over the place
Is that okay? Yeah, okay that we're all over the place. Do you think so? I think so
(44:55):
I enjoy it
personally
I
I hear so i've been i've been watching these um these youtube videos by
dan
something
I don't remember his last name but he's talking about like being a one man
Or one person business online and and one person brand and blah blah blah
(45:16):
And and one of the things that he says about podcasts is like that's that's the place to be authentic
It's not yeah, that's not the place like some people can use their podcast to be an authority
but
For the most part you just want to be authentic because that's where people hear your voice. That's where you can be a person
(45:42):
Right
And and I think we do really well with that
I don't think we got like I don't know how how we're gonna appeal to people being people but
You know
Well, we'll figure that I think that's mostly me marketing poorly
me marketing
poorly
(46:03):
And uh, and that's part of what blue blue sky is about i'm i'm gonna start um posting
Like when this comes out i'm gonna post
At least once on blue sky possibly both christmas eve and christmas day
To be like, you know, hey, have you seen our christmas special blah blah and and maybe maybe we'll get people
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listening
Maybe maybe we'll get people that are interested. Maybe we'll get people that are like who the hell are these weirdos?
But like can't click away, you know
That'd be cute. We'll see
Absolutely
We like friends
We do like friends
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It'll be interesting though i'm trying really hard to come back to
sub stack and medium and it just
I feel like I feel like i've been burnt
Like I don't know if i'm burnt out on them yet, but it seems real close
Yeah
(47:10):
Sorry to hear that but are you finding some freedom from them at all like
How do I say that because medium used to be like a
Part of you, you know what I mean? You were so into it that if you didn't do it
It felt like you were missing part of yourself
So have you been able to like, you know
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Break those chains at all
Kind of but it's um, it's been painful
Because like I I knew it was painful being in it at a certain point because i've been put I was putting songs on it
At a certain point because i've been put I was putting so much energy
(47:54):
Into something that was not giving me anything
of note back
And while I did have a month that I reached like 80 bucks for the month
The amount of work I put in to get that 80
Was depressing
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And the work that I put in
Yeah, I would I would have hoped that would be like real work like actual writing
but no the work was
Reaching out to different people and reading and commenting on their shit
That's not real work. That's that's something you're supposed to be entertaining
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Right or at worst networking
No, because like networking is
better than that
When I when when so when other people talk about networking once you've made you've established the contact that is networked
You don't have to keep going back to reestablish the contact you you go back. Yes, you go back to to like
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Check in on them and everything, but that's not what this was
For medium
You know like doing it the way that I had to do it because I guess I don't I don't know
Maybe everybody does it like that on medium. Um, but
It's more like if you don't read something that they've read they've forgotten about you
(49:24):
Right you cease to exist
You don't they don't come back wondering. Hmm. I wonder where tam's at
I wonder what's going on with tam
Let's see if tam wrote anything that might be interesting. No, they don't they don't do that. They they literally only
respond to people that they
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That are reading on theirs
And I just I just couldn't justify continuing and I think substack is probably different
probably
probably
But I got so burnt out by medium that I just didn't have it left to really put into substack yet
(50:07):
Yeah
It's so much harder to put yourself out there than people make it seem like you know
all the
crazy people on twitter
that just
Seem to have no problem blatantly and proudly putting forth their crazy
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misogynistic or white supremacist ideals and
It's like I don't know how they have the energy
Or like the confidence or whatever it is takes to be able to do that because it's like
I get a good joke that I get a good laugh out of and there's
Almost no shot in hell that someone's gonna be able to convince me to put that onto twitter or blue sky not yet
(50:51):
I have a theory
What's that? I have a theory about that. So people who are
misogynistic or racist or you know any of those
those
objectively terrible things like
We're just gonna call a spade a spade. They're they're terrible people
um
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Not that they couldn't change they don't have to be terrible, but they're terrible when they say it
Until they decide that it's not right
right
terrible perceptions
That perception like it comes with this
Rebellious
argumentative
(51:33):
nature to it
so when they put it out there it almost
Is guaranteed
That no matter how many people see it
Somebody is going to see it that doesn't like it and it feels in the need
to say something
Against it
And that feeds that feeds the beast because it's coming from a perception that is argumentative by nature
(51:59):
And so when somebody comes along who isn't a terrible person who's like I need to call out this terrible person for being a terrible person
They're really just feeding
The argumentative beast and that gives them more energy to post that shit more
True when you're not a terrible person and you aren't you aren't trying to get arguments
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It's a lot harder because what you really want is people to be engaged because they enjoy it or because it uplifts them
Or because it enriches their life and the amount of people that are willing to comment about those things
Are a lot less than the people that are willing to comment calling something out that offended them
(52:41):
That's true
And that's why it's harder to put out good shit and so much easier to put out hate
Yeah, yeah, I hate that
Maybe we maybe we should put that out. I hate hate
Hate hate I hate how it's gonna go how it's so easy to put out hate
(53:02):
We're gonna go on the the hate
Can't even fucking use words
I know
What's wrong with me?
Sorry
Bye
(53:23):
Oh
My god, that was the best placed womp womp ever
How's your toes oh good lord, oh I snorted
(53:45):
We're expecting that one, huh? No, I was not
I don't even remember what I was saying. It doesn't matter. Whatever who gives a shit hating hate. That's what we were talking about
Oh, yeah hating hate
Hating hate and it's not even hating haters
Because like, you know, I want to I want to help the haters but like the hate itself. I hate the hate
(54:10):
I think I think in order to and maybe this is maybe this is what I need to start like thinking about seriously
But it seems like what does well in this climate because maybe it's not
Forever. Maybe it's just a cycle that humans go through that hate is easier to perpetuate than good stuff
(54:31):
Yeah
But the only way like the only things that are positive that seem just as easy to put out there as the hate as the bad shit
Are funny shit making fun of the bad shit
So you got to take like the bad shit that's happened like
Have you heard of josh johnson
(54:53):
The name sounds familiar he's a comedian
and
This morning I was watching
His most recent youtube video special thingy. It's like an hour long
And uh, and it was all about like the whole set was about the ceo shooting
(55:16):
Really, yeah, and it was great
It was hilarious
But he also made some sobering points
So there were like like it was this huge. It was this journey through like
You know the way I speak where i'm like
You know, it's severe and it's important but then like there's a laugh
(55:37):
And then you know
It I don't know how to do that
And maybe that's what is needed
In order to put good into the world. We have to
Like filter it. We have to filter the shit
through comedy
To make
(55:58):
The daisies or roses or whatever
But i'm I don't know I think i'm funny, but I don't know that i'm a comedian
Sure, I understand that I think you're funny, but you know
Comedy is so subjective
I'm funniest as a two-man set
(56:21):
Because i'm too autistic I think
for
A singular thing without I'd have to study it. I'd have to figure it out study the formulas and shit
In order to do it myself, but I I think I go really like I do really well
When i'm
You know the
(56:43):
the fool
Really yeah
I think you're a straight man, honestly
You think i'm really I guess sometimes sometimes but that's my part of my foolishness
Is that I don't understand
Yeah
Exactly
(57:07):
So that's why I think this this uh this podcast format works because
I work really well with
With the two-man setup
I think we work really well together too
Although this episode is probably not great
As evidence of that
(57:27):
I don't know. I really I feel like it
Yeah, do you well we we were away for like three months
Four months. I don't know however long it's been a long time
months
Multiple months many months we had to go
We had to excavate the whole mine and it felt that our podcast machine fell into
I had to test my setup again
(57:49):
Yeah, which I probably should do every time but I don't
I just feel super out of practice like
I've been
At my place of business. I've been going around and talking to people fucking constantly like that's the whole thing that i'm doing is that i'm just
Talking to people about workplace safety all the time and it's going really well and apparently i'm making
(58:12):
Sense, but then I sit down with you now
after months and i'm like man, I don't know if i'm making any sense at all or if i'm just like
Well at your work, you're you're talking to all of them about very specific things
Like you know what you need you you know what you're talking about like the topic not not that you know
(58:34):
Like the information but you know the topic and you know what you need out of the
Interaction, you know who to talk to what you're talking about why you're talking to them and and what you need from them like
What do we know about the podcast? We know that we're here
Yep, we know it's for christmas
(58:55):
Merry
Merry christmas, Merry Christmas
To your list
Yep, murphy
So I think based on the the
Impromptu nature of our podcast you should give yourself a break
It's probably a good idea. I feel like i'm mumbling too, but I appreciate the the help
(59:19):
I'm just a real self-critical today apparently. Yeah, what's up with that?
What's up with that? Why are you uh, why are you so critical?
of yourself
Just in general today
Like yeah, I don't know why today. Um
But I care about the podcast and I want to do a good job with it
(59:40):
And so, you know
I did feel a little I guess lost even though you had some topics for us to talk about
It just seemed like it was more difficult today to put the words into an order that made sense
Than it has in other days or at least what I remember from the podcast
I feel like i've said some pretty good shit on the podcast, you know here and there
(01:00:03):
but
I don't feel like I have any good shit to say today
Nothing at all. Yeah, that's okay
There's nothing wrong with that
No, it's christmas
It is
It's christmas
(01:00:25):
It's christmas. It is
You know, if if people don't like our christmas special then they don't have to listen to it
But some people are gonna like it
And they may be like well, this wasn't that big of a like this wasn't super interesting, but I like the people
I like their characters
(01:00:46):
Right. That's true. Also christmas specials aren't like always supposed to be really good. Sometimes they're really really bad
Yeah, you know, I think it works no matter what well, you know, uh, good mythical morn
I don't know what they do for christmas, but every thanksgiving they do a non-episode
They record an update every every year every year now on thanksgiving. They record an episode
(01:01:10):
Where they do as little as possible for the episode this past thanksgiving their episode
Was them sitting like laying in?
a bed
It was on on the stage. So it wasn't like their beds, but like just laying in a bed
Not doing anything
(01:01:30):
And that was the episode that was the whole episode was them trying not to talk to each other
Was them trying not to think too hard?
To not do anything
Interesting and the reason why they do that is because nobody watches those anyway in their likes for the few people that do
We're gonna keep making these videos, but we're gonna make them with as little effort as possible because fuck it
(01:01:57):
Interesting
So I like people watch those people watch those we did watch those
We we definitely watched those on thanksgiving I think did you watch the other way through yeah
Hell, yeah
Yeah, I haven't since they started doing this like literally the year they started doing the the no effort thanksgiving episodes
(01:02:23):
I haven't missed one
Hell, yeah
The kind of dedication my watch doesn't count because i'm watching it with ghost
So they don't see my added watch time in in their metrics, but still like
Yeah, but you know about it I know right right and then i'm talking about it and here here I am talking about it so
(01:02:47):
Right, but yeah, I like that same idea for ours like this is this is our christmas episode
It doesn't have to be anything special because it's already special because it's coming out around christmas
That's true
That's true and if that's not enough then obviously
You're not the person we're doing this for
(01:03:08):
So true
How do you want to
How do I want to what
Hello
Hi, sorry. I was laughing. How do you want to wrap this episode up?
It's been a little over an hour now
(01:03:29):
And my stamina is pretty shot
as evidenced by
Me and you
Just whenever my stamina is shot
I just do not remember
your cadence of speech
and so
I
Always interrupt like four times in a row and it is hilarious every time it happens
(01:03:54):
So my apologies about that, but is and how do you want to wrap up this episode?
Well first off you're totally forgiven and i'm sorry
Because that's partially my fault for not giving you space to speak
Yeah, that's okay, no worries forgiven
But uh, yeah, we can we can just wrap it up here if you want. I'm almost out of my tea now, so
(01:04:21):
Important to to note
Um, okay. Cool. Well, uh, we don't really have like the uh, you know
The regular words that we would say I would say
You know the regular words that we would say I don't think because we're not really promoting anything besides
Yeah, I was I was going to but then then the whole thing happened. So
(01:04:41):
I guess if if I have anything to put
With like anything in my overwhelmed journal to put with this episode
Then i'll i'll do that. But if not, then next episode maybe i'll have it
Yeah, we'll see check out keep your keep your ear your ear, uh earbuds and eyeballs open for
(01:05:03):
You know future episodes because there will be future episodes coming in 2025
Of the hidden egg podcast, yes, thank you very much listeners for coming along. We really appreciate you. I hope you've been
Uh, uh, uh, no, I was gonna try
Oh my god, um, I hope you find smiles this day
(01:05:24):
Oh, i'm eternally mortal. I'm eternally i'm
i'm
i'm eternally mortal because like
That's me
And I hope I hope you
Find smiles this day
(01:05:45):
And i'm the accidental monster
accidental monster you can find me on
Substack on blue sky
Probably also medium. I haven't quit that just yet
Um, i'm putting this on youtube
You can find me in a lot of places and uh
(01:06:07):
I don't like my tagline of follow yourself always anymore. So I think in 2025 i'm gonna find a new one
so, uh for now just
We're gonna go with fine smiles and merry christmas
Yep, murpy demarchus and uh fine smiles
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