Your Business Should Run Without You: Here’s How to Make It Happen with Katie Cesna

Most entrepreneurs work harder than anyone they know yet still feel stuck inside their own business. They are exhausted, overwhelmed, and living in constant reaction mode. The dream life they imagined feels out of reach because the business can’t seem to run without them.

Today’s conversation flips that entire story.

Katie Cesna, founder of Wild Legacy Collective, joins Josh in the studio to reveal why so many business owners unknowingly operate with an employee mindset. She breaks down the chaos, the lack of replicable systems, and the ego traps that keep entrepreneurs trapped in their own creation.

This episode is a blueprint for stepping into true CEO identity. If you want a business that runs without constant babysitting, a team that thrives, and the freedom to enjoy life while your business continues to grow, Katie shows you exactly what needs to change.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

Why Chaos Happens Even in Successful Businesses

How early stage systems break as a business grows and why that creates a cycle of overwhelm, bottlenecks, and “I don’t have time to fix this” thinking.

The Employee Mindset Trap

Why many business owners stay stuck doing tasks they hate, avoiding the hard decisions, and thinking the place will fall apart if they step away.

The Real Reason Entrepreneurs Resist Delegation

How ego attachment to being needed creates internal panic when things go well without you and how to break that cycle.

The CEO Shift That Changes Everything

What it means to take radical responsibility for everything in your business, how communication drives culture, and why clear systems unlock confidence for both you and your team.

The Dream Life Framework

Katie’s first step in every business. How she maps hours, income, lifestyle goals, and offer structure so your business is built around the life you want, not the other way around.

How to Create a Business That Runs Without You

Replicable systems. Team empowerment. Strategic automation. Real examples of clients who went from fearful to five week vacations with their business running smoothly.

Why Personal Patterns Always Show Up in Business

How the internal work changes external results and why fixing communication and boundaries inside the business often transforms life outside of it.

Resetting the Vision When You Outgrow It

What to do when the dream you once wanted is no longer the dream and how to continually evolve your business to match who you are becoming.