2025 FFPC Pros Vs. Joes Iron Maiden Division #4 Live Draft Coverage

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
How far will Joe Mixon fall this evening? Who will
be bumping up at Mecca Igbuka and will the Pros
or the Joe's be the one controlling tonight's draft. Follow
along with the live draft board tonight with our pick
by pick analysis as we call the action from the
twenty twenty five f f PC Pros versus Joe's Iron
made in Division number four to see who's gonna win

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Speaker 1 (01:24):
Thank you, Rob Greenings and salutations to all of you.
Balkaholics and for ELIAX. Welcome to the latest episode of
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register as well at my FFPC. Let's get into our
drafters tonight, ladies and gentlemen. The joes are kicking things
off here tonight. Brian Lindo and Jeff Cuzmano at the
one spot. I'll just bring up the draft board here
so everybody can see it. And I'm not You guys
know what I'm talking about here. Jeff Kuzmano and Brian

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Lindo ended up taking Jamar Chase number one Sigmund Bloom
from Football Guys, no surprise, he goes at the elite
tight end early brock Bauers at the one oh two,
Albert and Kyle Leach draft Bijon Robinson. At the one
oh three. Jamier Gibbs goes to Estadio Fantasies Mauricio Gutierrez
at the four spot Ceedee Lamb right after that to
Frying pan Ink. Of course, Brad Petrie and Darren Larson

(03:37):
the KFFSC cohorts turned f FPC dominators. They end up
going with Lamb. There McCaffrey off the board to one.
Josh As at the one oh six from Rodoballer Sakuon
Barkley to Dennis and Stephen Jones. Right after that, Dan
Williams and Bradley Staalder, who hosts the stack Unners show
on Player Profiler they have the next pick, and on
the Player Profiler Network, excuse me, they had the next

(03:58):
pick and then they go with Justin Jefferson. Trey McBride
is the pick to Billy van Ormer. After that, the
FFPC Joe from established Run Michael Leoni ends up going
with Malik Neighbors at the one ten. Ashton Genty off
the board at the one eleven to Vince Staffelino, Justin
Boot from Yahoo Fantasy takes Pukinakua to end the first
round without further ado. Let me bring on my guest

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co host for the night. Not even a guest co host,
the guy who normally co hosts the show with me.
He is the incomparable Fararell Elliott Farrell. Welcome aboard, my friend.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
How you doing, man? I tell you what, it's just
you and me to I know Turp.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Turp is may or may not be joining us tomorrow.
He will for sure be on Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
He likes playing into that fact of the intro because
no one else is available. He likes he he yeah,
that's what's going on there. Wow, fokey. But you know,
as soon as I start missing Terp, I realize I'm
with the number one broadcast professional of fantasy football in
the entire United States.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Well, you'll have to introduce some me. Yeah, you're hilarious, Farrell.
I want to get to our first guest tonight right
off the bat. You know him, you love him, You
follow him on the X at Josh Hayes FX. This
is a guy who's been with Rotoballer for a long time,
a guy I've talked with on shows with in the

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past two Here with the f f PC YouTube channel,
you hear him on Serious Sex and Fantasy Sports Radio
weekdays from six until seven am Eastern Time. Of course,
the incomparable Josh Hayes joining us, who is drafting tonight.
Josh is drafting from the sixth spot. Josh, Good evening
and welcome.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
How you doing man, How you been bulky? Long time
no talk, parall, great to talk again. I hope all
is well, my friend.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
It always is, it is.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
And so we have to talk about your first pick
right off the top, Josh, because you had the opportunity
to catch Saquon Barkley falling tonight, you end up going
with McCaffrey above him, and I think that that there's
an argument one where the other here. Why I'll let
you make the McCaffrey argument. Why you thought he'd be
a better pick in this format than Barkley.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Great. First of all, I want.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
To shake my fist at Dennis Jones, who just took
George Kittle. I was literally going to take George Kittle
in the second round and just go with a Niner
stack right off the bat. I don't know if this
is really a thing, but Saquon Barkley owes me for
going out early on in the season last year, you know,
coming off the injury, but in all seriousness, has been
healthy for a while, has looked pretty good in training

(06:29):
camp so far. Niners by far, far, and away in
my opinion, and I think this is backed up by
NFL dot com sharp football analysis. Niners have the easiest
schedule in football coming into twenty twenty five. There's a
lot of cupcakes out there, and it feels like with
all the uncertainty with the wide receivers, they need Christian
McCaffrey more involved than ever this year with rend and

(06:51):
a Yuk looks like he's probably gonna get a four
game you know, opportunity to sit the season on the
pup list. You have Ricky Pierce banged up, you have
Juwan Jennings who wants a new contract, who's a little
bit nicked up as well. George Kittle played a good
portion of that season injured last year as well. So
it feels like if there was ever a time for

(07:12):
them to lean having the run game and to be
in ahead in a lot of games thanks to the
strength of schedule, maybe this is the year that we
get the Christian McCaffrey bounce back.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
The McCaffrey bounce back, I think is reason enough to say, like, yeah,
obviously we're gonna take him here in the mid first
round because he could still pay off that in spades.
But let's let's present the Barkley side of it that
you know the the usage and you know clearly the
backs that have had the touch level or the touchmounts

(07:41):
that he had the year before classically have fallen the
next year. Whether that's because they were out of their
gored the previous year, whether it's because it's just natural
regression whatever. At what point would you start taking Barkley
in the first round, Josh.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
I would have been comfortable with Barkley right at six. Also,
I honestly, if I wasn't going to take christ McCaffrey,
thinking that he's set up for like, you know, full
on monster season with the amount of volume he's in
line for, I probably would have leaned Trey McBride or
Brock Bauers. You know, Rock Bowers is obviously not available
since he went to but the tight end premium, I

(08:17):
think it's important, and watching the Cardinals do next to
nothing to improve the offense. You know, they sat basically
stood Pat didn't even get another you know, free agent
wide receiver or anything else like that. It's essentially the
same offense as last year rolling back here for twenty
twenty five. So it feels like Trey if I would
have been a big time opportunity. I also like a

(08:38):
lot of running backs too, like Derrick Henry coming off
a monster season last year and he goes mid second round.
It's almost criminal to have like an MVP type season
and to see these guys fallow in the second round.
And then also add to the fact too that there's
a lot of rookie running backs that have come into
the draft that a lot of people like. So I
wouldn't really feel pressure to take Saquon Barkley there, knowing

(09:01):
that you have some good opportunities with the tight end premium.
And you know, Ceedee Lamble has been another guy I
definitely would have gave strong consideration too if he fell
to me at six.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
So you go with McCaffrey in the first, McConkie in
the second. My big concern with McConkie this year is
something that's not really his fault, and I shouldn't say
it's my big concern with it, Josh, but I think
about McConkie and how he ended last season and how
I'm I'm privy to recncy bias as much as the
next guy, And I think about how much he was
dominating towards the end of the regular season then obviously

(09:31):
the postseason as well. And you have Greg Roman there,
you have Jim Harbaugh and a massively upgraded running back
room with Najee Harris and Omari and Hampton there. The
first thing I think of when I see McConkie is like, Oh,
there's gonna be some regression here, because there's no way
he can keep doing that again. But clearly you believe
that mccakee soaking a two oh seven pick in into

(09:53):
him this year in this format, you're still a big
believer in McConkie having a massive season. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
I was a coin flip for between aj Brown lad
McConkey in my opinion. And you know, I'm so impressed
with what the Eagles did in their off season. It's
very I think it's a very good chance too. They
they may be sitting on a lot of leads again
this year. Whereas I think the Chargers they really have
to fight tooth and nail. Everybody in their division got

(10:18):
better this season, and so like I feel like they're
just going to be a team that's going to have
to score a lot of points, you know, and now
knowing that maybe they have a little bit more stability
to sustain drives with a better running game with Omar
and Hampton. Back that up with Najie Harris if he
ever finishes his audition with Pirates of the Caribbean, you know,

(10:38):
we'll we'll figure out what happens there. But Trey Harris
and the rookies that they've added in their wide receiver
rooms so they don't have to watch Quinton Johnson waste
drops that cost them drives left and right. I think
it's a great opportunity. Think the offense is going to
be better this year, and hopefully that's a good thing for
lat McConkie.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
The real gift that you gave me tonight was your
McCaffrey breakdown. I really like your thought process us there,
and uh, there's no way I would have drafted him
in front of Barkley, but I really like why you do.
And then your second round pick. I know there's two
guys in Illinois and I smiling with pet Dry Larson.

(11:13):
When they now start with Henry, There's no way they
thought this Henry. So we'll see. Yeah, it plays out,
hey man, another pick?

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, well, speaking of Henry Farrell, Lamar Jackson now joining
the Josh Hayes All Star Team here as McCaffrey McConkie
are the first two picks. You just take Lamar Jackson
here in the third round, the first quarterback off the board.
How close is it for you, Josh? When it comes
to Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jade and Daniels? How close
is it for the QB one this year? For for you?

(11:42):
Clearly it's Jackson, But is that a tight race?

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Is that a small tier for you?

Speaker 5 (11:47):
It's I mean you, I mean they were neck and
neck for MVP, So obviously you got to give a
lot of respect to to Josh Allen and that team.
I think what it comes down to me is the
division that they're going to play a games, and you
know all season long, the AFC, eas to me, is
still significantly weaker than the NFC North. The NFC North

(12:08):
has three really solid teams. And then maybe Lamar Jackson
just goes crazy against Cleveland. They have some big games,
but there are no cupcakes. I think there's gonna be
shootouts left and right with the Bengals, and uh, you know.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
If you watch.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
How everybody in that division, you know, you wouldn't be
surprised if any one of them, all three teams made
the playoffs, if one of them had one of the
best records in the AFC between you know, Baltimore and Cincinnati,
especially especially with the season that Joe Burrow came off with.
So I think that Lamar Jackson, you know, he rolls
right into another strong offense. I actually love what they've

(12:45):
done in terms of strengthening the defensive offensive line. It
feels like they're gonna be a dominant team. And I
just wanted to since we're only going to really start
one TV in the Best Ball slim, you can either
take the shot where you're gonna you know, wait, I've
done that in a lot of leagues, where you wait
until round ten, twelve and grab two or three of them.
I think I'm just gonna end up with three quarterbacks
and I want the top one. I want to mid
tier one. Then I want to fly her.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
So so even though you take Lamar Jackson here in
the third, you still plan on drafting a third quarterback jacket.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
Yeah, in Bestball, where you can't control your roster and
I have to just sit here and stare at the
same lineup I drafted the entire rest of the year,
I kind of think I need that all state insurance.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
You know, in one of these years, Lamar is going
to enter that tent and he's going to linger a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, yeah, I would imagine that that is coming down
the pike. The last thing, Josh, I'll bring up with
you when you talk about this Bestball slim format, you
already mentioned it. You start one quarterback twenty rounds. How
important is it for you to get an elite quarterback
in this format? Again, no kickers, no defenses, so the
lineups are a little bit smaller. Is it crucial for you?

(13:52):
I'd have to go back and look how you've done
in this contest before and how you've handled the quarterback.
But is it crucial to try to get one of
these upper restaurant elite quarterback?

Speaker 5 (14:00):
I think since we're gonna go twenty rounds, it's harder
for you because I think, honestly speaking, a way at
quarterback strategy where you stream to qbs and play that
game is better suited for a waiver wire that's active,
you know what I mean, Because if somebody get gets injured,
or it doesn't work out, or you need to make
a trade or something else like, you still have opportunites

(14:22):
to fix your team. You can't fix this once you drafted.
So Lamar Jackson is as consistent as steady as it's been.
He hasn't had an injury, is you for? I think
two straight seasons now, and this is their Super Bowl run,
you know what I mean? This is the best team
that they've ever had on offense and defense in my opinion.
There So if he was ever going to like get
revenge for not getting MVP, I think this could be

(14:43):
the year.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Roadawaller dot Com check out Josh's work there. Of course,
listen to him tomorrow morning from six until seven am
Eastern time Rotoballer Fantasy Sports Radio on Serious X and
Fantasy Sports Radio. It is him, it is real talk raft.
It is a great show. Make sure you're tuning in
for that anything else set that I should mention Josh
before we let you go that you want to know
that obviously. Josh has fs on X as well.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Absolutely yeah, And if you have any beard grooming tips,
send him my way, because you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
I happened here for.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oil is always good man. The more oil the better
because I always feel like it's a lot more manageable.
I could do more stuff with it. That's That's what
I'll leave you with, and I'll let you enjoy the
rest of your draft tonight. Josh has thanks for hopping
a board, man, Appreciate.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
It, ferl Eric. Always a good pleasure. Appreciate it. You
got it.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Josh as some rodaballer ladies and gentlemen hopping a board,
drafting from the six spots to night. He's coming up
on his fourth round pick here, Ferrel, I, I don't
know in all the years we've been doing this, if
I've asked you if you were in this, how would
you handle quarterback? Would you try to get one of
these elite guys early or are you comfortable building up
with two or three guys in the mid rounds instead?

Speaker 4 (15:51):
It would depend who else is on the board. But
I like his decision. You know, if you move Barkley
over here, and you move Henry over there, and you
move Jack and then you can hammer these wide receivers.
That's the team I would have put together with given
the opportunity he had here. But you know, he makes
a good plan for what he's got going on. I

(16:15):
think with some of the quarterbacks that I really really
like Balkey, I could make do with waiting on quarterback,
but Josh broke it down pretty well. He likes to
have a star. He likes to have a guy that's
going to finish somewhere in the middle giving spot games,
and then he'll take a third quarterback that has some upside.

(16:37):
But you know, we can get middle round quarterbacks that
that are going to put up some very significant numbers
this year. They probably won't be Lamar Jackson numbers, but
they Yeah. So I tend to think that his plan

(16:58):
at quarterback is the plan that I would put to
work in here.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
What about you, Well, here's I'm glad you teed me
up for this, because I do have some thoughts. I
was in a KFF Bestball draft. I still am in several,
but I made a pick in one that launched a
cut last week. I think I think it was last
week and I Josh Allen was staring me in the
face in the third round, and or maybe it was
a fourth round. I can't remember, but I'm like, God,

(17:23):
I never take quarterbacks early. Let's have some fun. This
is supposed to be fun. Let's take a quarterback early
here and see how this draft turns out. So I
did it, and I've kind of had buyers or more
since I've done it. And the reason why for me
and I hear more and more people talk about this
in managed leagues. I think it's important to have somewhat
an elite quarterback, or it's an important thing to have

(17:45):
a quarterback that is going that you believe is going
to be elite, that maybe you're drafting outside the top eight.
In best Ball, it's a little bit different because in Bestball,
to borrow a quote from Moneyball, you can recreate the
elite quarterback in the aggregate. So in other words, you
don't have to draft Lamar Jackson, you have to draft
Josh Allen, Jayden Daniels. You could grab love and Party

(18:07):
or JJ McCarthy and Jared Goff and maybe, like Josh
is saying, one more flyer too. And then in best Ball,
where you're just taking the best possible performance out of
three guys every week. Sometimes I think that's just as
good as having the elite guy. Now, you may not
have the forty plus point weeks that Lamar Jackson and
Josh Allen give you every now and then, but I
think in best ball I would lean against it. Manage leagues, yeah,

(18:30):
I think it's important to have an elite quarterback, but
for something like this, I think I'm kind of going
back to my roots and building up quarterbacks by quantity
over quality.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Strength and schedule is probably one of the most overanalyzed
and over talked about. You know, Josh's commentary about cupcakes.
Better hold back on that a little bit. But nevertheless,
if you take a look at golf, the most intriguing
player to me because when he plays at home, he

(19:04):
is a different kind of fantasy quarterback. And so if
you can match those schedules at the home versus away
with your other quarterbacks, that you could get early and
I haven't looked at it, but if you can, there's
maybe an inside track to get more out of golf
and one other quarterback then you thought you could and
perhaps challenge if you don't get one of the top

(19:26):
five guys.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
I think that's important to understand when you're going in,
when you're going into your draft, right like draft tricks,
I think for years, I think they still do it.
I could be wrong, but they would have a whole
piece that they would write up every year. Boat Like,
if you're looking to pair quarterbacks that are out going
outside the top of the top ten, here are the
two guys that match up, or this pair works well together.
This pair works well together. So that's always something that

(19:49):
you'd be paying attention to in the scenario.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Oh okay, look at team five because it's my boys,
Petreid Larson and I'm not playing any favorites because we've
got a Kentucky flavor in this throughout with Billy van
Ormer and a couple of guys that are in here.
But I'll tell you this. Yeah, you might say that
this is an old school lineup, but I'm damn that
school is Harvard. Look at this they are putting together.

(20:13):
They are putting together one heck of the team, one.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Of the players, and they take Alvin Kamara here at
the five oh five. He's one of the players that
I wish I had more of this year, Farrell. I
was just reading somebody talking about Kamara today, like, yeah,
the offense is it's one big question mark. I mean
they they don't do they have a quarterback? I don't know.
They have several quarterbacks, which means they probably don't have
one quarterback again, Tyler Tyler shook. Okay, we'll see and

(20:38):
and I know he's he's a Louisville guy. And I
don't want to be smirch any of my Kentucky friends,
but I want to see it on the field now.
I have drafted Chuck and a couple of best balls
for what it's with. But the situation I think is
on par or maybe a little bit better. With the

(20:59):
return of Chris O Lobby and Rashid Shiheed this year,
I think that offense could be better. He couldn't get
much worse than it was last year. Pharaoh and Camara
was really really good. And he is still going in
the fifth round. Yeah. I know he's he's an older
running back here, but you look at what Pete try
and Larson have done here. They have cobbled together all
these old guys, right, all these these these you know,
we always say this, they are only one person is

(21:21):
winning anything in this and that's a twenty twenty six
main event. Farrell has made sure that the runner up
will get a pair of socks. Yes, if you have that,
but that's still just the top two teams, right, And
and so what do you do when you're when you're
playing for first place and nothing else. You go for
the young, the young, upside guys, the high volume guys,
the mystery box guys. We don't know, Well, maybe there's

(21:41):
some value in trying to win this whole thing by
taking the guys that, yeah, youth isn't on their side,
but experience and performance is. Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, Alvin Kamara,
Derrick Henry. I don't think I put Seedee Lamb in
that group yet, but those four guys there, I mean,
there is value in putting all of them together. Now.
I'm sure they're gonna spice in a couple of rookies
here as it goes through, But I think as far

(22:04):
as a core goes and you look at the consistency
of these players, especially when you consider Evan's coming off
a quasi down year where he missed some time, Tyreek
Hill definitely coming off a down year, and you're buying
up value there too with with just natural positive regression here.
So I like what Peter and Larson here are doing.
We'll see what if it continues throughout the sixth round

(22:24):
and beyond. But yeah, I think you can make a
strong case that what they're doing is something we don't
normally see. But it could definitely work.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
It definitely could. And I yeah, so we we've talked
a lot about them, and let me tell you, they
got fifteen more rounds and they're gonna they're gonna get
a mix of younger players and complimentary players in here.
But yeah, I like where it's going. Peer's it, so
does the so does the chat room.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
The chat room, Yeah, definitely joking saying Team five drives
a buick because all the veterans that they have, you
know they do, Yeah, they might. I want to to
bring up what Tom Smith, our buddy Tom Smith said
about Vince staff Alino squad the f FPC Joe drafting
from the eleven hole tonight. He ends up going with

(23:12):
genty in the first round. He comes back with Saint
Brown after Justin Boone goes Nakua and and and a Chan,
So he gets genty and Saint Brown, Uh, then Smith
and Jigu Laporta, Waddle and then Judy. So he's got
a really deep wide receiver corps. Six rounds in, you're
looking at all those guys being number one receivers with

(23:32):
the exception of Jalen Wattle. Obviously Laporta is going to
factor in heavily to UH to what the Lions are
gonna do this year. But yeah, Vince, this is a
really good team. And I think if he if he
pounds the running backs in the middle, that this is
this is another way to win it too. You're talking
about veterans from frying Pan and you're talking about heavy
receiver corps from staff Alino two different ways. And and

(23:55):
by the way, both these teams then all these players,
all three of those guys very successful high stakes players.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
You gotta really love Jerry Judy at this spot. If
Vince calls in, we will have him state the affirmative
of his romance with Judy, because he's going to see
a lot of green go off the board. I would
just fear taking my fourth receiver and Balky. You know,
I don't like to live in fear, but I would
just very very hesitant to take my fourth receiver when

(24:26):
I don't think I'm going to get a score out
of him. And I'm watching all these these green stickers.
There's four of them, and we've still got to get
back all the way through the seventh round, So that
that troubles me a little. But you know, we'll see
what Vince can pull.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
The other thing too, when you're talking about his start
with skipping running backs. Here in the sixth round, he
takes Judy. I mean, there's an argument that Trevion Henderson
may not be capital letters Trevion Henderson because of Hermandre
Stevenson's presence. Obviously, I think we've spent enough time in
the high stakes Fantasy football hour. But you know, the

(25:03):
last several months talking about the misgivings, we have the
the caution that we're exercising when drafting DeAndre Swift. Obviously,
Aaron Jones is a guy that we like. But then
they went out and they traded a draft capital to
get Jordan Mason and they ended up giving him a
new contract as well. R. J. Harvey was a guy

(25:25):
that was sky high a couple of months ago. Then JK.
Dobbins signed, and there's a lot of people down on Harvey.
So there is something to be said about staph Lina
saying I don't like any of those running backs, and
I like the getting this number one receiver and Jerry
Judy on Cleveland, and that's why he went the way
he did. Now, we can't get into their minds, but
I could definitely see that case being presented to Vincent.
He's like, to heck with it. I'm gonna take a
guy I want here.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Well, if he's gonna go to the dance, he's gonna
have to maybe dance with somebody other than the homecoming
queen because you know, but but some of these guys.
If you don't like these guys, why do you see
what's coming? In seventh and eighth round, Vince bless you.
We start talking to that kid named Blue down in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
I've been getting him a lot in the Kentucky Rookie
Dynasty drafts, and I don't know if it's just because
everybody's down with the report on him being lazy or whatever,
but man, it's I'm on board with him for the price. Now,
I think there's there's tough to be said for that. Okay,
three straight tight ends here going in the sixth round,
we're almost closing it out. Six twelve is where we're

(26:28):
at right now with Lindo and Kuzmano the FFPC, Joe's
drafting from the one spot, and Joku to Mauricio Gutierrez,
Evan Ingram to the Leeches, and then Tucker Kraft to
Segmund Bloom. So now we've had two teams h Dennis
and Stephen Jones and Segmund Bloom double up with tight
ends here Bowers and Kraft for Bloom, Kittle and Kelsey

(26:49):
for for the Joneses. As Bloom tries to keep up
with the Joneses with two tight ends of his own.
This is where I was thinking, it's interesting, Pharaoh, when
when we have two teams have two tight ends on
their squad through round six, then I think it starts
to affect other people where they're like, I might have
to like pivot off my draft plan a little bit
just to make sure I don't get shut out here.
And I'm still getting a guy who is going to

(27:11):
be drafted as a top twelve guy or a guy
I think he's going to finish in the top twelve.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Good smart move, Buddy, good smart move. But boy, you
know what, when these titians start going, let's start going,
don't they they do?

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Tom says he was in a big gorilla earlier today
with with FPI, with large P and Rson.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
How about that. The guys you're out there, get warmed up, buddy.
They're playing in that gorilla. They intend to win. They've
got big plans.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Sean green points out that the the Frying Pan Ink
guys have now added a player under the edge of
thirty and R J. Harvey, the rookie running back going
with They now have old r J. Harvey and new
Alvin Kamara.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Right.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Jill Greeney that.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
R. J.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Harvey's never even seen a buick. You know, he.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Doesn't know what a buick yet, no idea. Don't ask
him what a payphone is. I have an intern at
my radio stations. He's on my show in the afternoons, Pharrell.
He's nineteen years old. He had no idea what a
safety deposit box was never heard of. I couldn't believe it.
I didn't know that was an age thing. It's just
how do you not even hear of that?

Speaker 4 (28:17):
It should be in an anime thing. You put the
stuff in anime.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, exactly. I want to get back to the Craft
pick at six eleven. This is a player that I
think I'm just starting to warm up to. By osmosis,
everybody else is telling me that this guy could be
the Packers number one receiver. Some people are saying is
a dark horse to finish among the top five and
tight ends this year. I think that's a little aggressive,
but certainly I allow for the possibility of that happening.

(28:42):
I don't know man like. They've been using him in
training camp. He's been targeted a lot. Jordan Love has
said that they want to get the ball droom more.
Maybe I am underrating Tucker Craft. Maybe this is a
player that I should be looking at harder when when
I'm drafting as a back end starter or a or
a top backup tight up. Eleven at the eight o
nine and the FFPC Bestball Tournament right now is his ADP.

(29:07):
According to Fantasy Mojo. Fantasymojo dot com, Darren Armani was
the webmaster. He puts this processus Joe's Challenge together. Every
time we cite ADP, it's from Fantasymojo dot com. You
should get a web subscription to that website. If you're
playing in the FFPC, So I'm starting with long story short.
I'm warming up the Tucker Craft now and I probably
need more Tucker Craft in my life.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Okay, And who picked Mark Andrews in the first round?
Who's our program?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
That was Brian Lindo and Jeff Cuzmano the f FPC.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Joe's took. Congratulations guys, and that's what we go back
to our John Hayes. That would have been a perfect,
perfect stack. He could have waited on a running back
and put Andrews in that slot. Andrews and Djoku drafted
in front of Andrews. There's twenty five to thirty catches
more for Andrews right there. Ingram could be about the
same in catches, but Andrews will tear up the end

(29:55):
zone compared to what Ingram will do and Andrews twenty
five maybe thirty more balls in craft.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I uh, I don't know. I mean, yeah, I'm still
you can obviously see I'm still making up my mind
on this, Like I just I haven't decided how how
I feel about this.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
And then what does he have to pay for likely
to handcuff the position?

Speaker 1 (30:19):
You're not going to handcuff him.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
What do you have to pay for? Likely?

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I mean it wouldn't wouldn't even be worth it, like, okay,
so if we would you have to pay all right,
if you want to know the price tag, Pharaoh, I'm
gonna strongly urge you against this model. Pick up a
buick instead of Isaiah.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
HARMANI would will tell us he's got the numbers. He's
actually the guy that runs this event. We're visiting tight.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
End eighteen eleven o eight.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
That's that's a little too much.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
You're Yeah, I just and like I think it almost
it limits your your upside, right, I mean if I
if you're trying to win the whole thing, you want
to get Andrews and then another tight End, who's gonna
finish in the top ten or top five thing? Yeah,
I I don't know. Certainly, maybe we'll see somebody do it.
I just don't know if it's if it's very likely.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Here, I'm honestly what you did there, Bunky, that's why
you're such a professional.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
People just you're so good and smooth. People want to
know what you put in your beard? Man, Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Okay, So we have a guest coming on he's about
to be on the clock. What I want to do
is I want to get by his next two picks
and then we'll bring him on because I want to
get his uh, his thoughts on how his his draft
is going so far. Billy van Rmer from the nine
spot half FPC Joe one of our favorites. He's got
McBride and Hampton and then a bunch of other receivers here, Farrell,

(31:37):
Brian Thomas, Jamison Williams, George Pickens, Calvin Ridley and Ricky
pearsall plenty of those guys. I don't think there's I
don't think there's any one of those players that I
am not on this year. I like all those players.
And he's probably together a really strong receiver corp here.
What do you make of the start from b the Oh.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
He's just spent so much time in Kentucky. That's all
he can do now is draft wide receivers. But yeah,
okay again, let's start seeing so some of these ugly
running backs are that are going to fill out these teams.
But Billy van Ormeer, Yeah, he wants to win this thing,
so he's coming in a little different and Hampton less
of a question mark now perhaps in his amount of

(32:17):
play than that we had earlier in the year. So okay, good,
And I think Hampton there was a bargain for him
at this dress spot, yes.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Or notebook, I'm gonna look it up right now, you know,
I think compared compared to the other process as Joe's,
it is a bargain. Running back thirteen at the three
to oh seven is where he's going in the.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Flea, you know, all right, Well, he's right on schedule,
very on schedule.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, what do you make of because this guy's picking
up steam now. George Pickens as the number two receiver
in Dallas, a team that should be throwing a lot
this year. I feel like I was not drafting him
early on because I didn't see much upside in Pittsburgh,
and now I wish I had more of them. But
his priced's gone up. I mean, we see him go
tonight at the five h nine as a top thirty receiver. Farrell,

(33:05):
are you in on Pickens this year?

Speaker 4 (33:07):
I am even at this price. I think Pickens is
a tremendous player that needed a change of scenery. He's
got it. He's paired in a perfect situation with a
veteran quarterback. They lamb can't do it all and can't
get it all. The tight end is good, but he's
not particularly prolific in this offense. And yes, so I
very much like this and it's it's it'll be a

(33:30):
different Pickens that we see this year. And you know,
I think it's hard to find anyone that doesn't like Pickens.
And that's why he's headed up to board.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
And there's going to be a running back here, you think,
so with van Armer is going.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
To take a running backsticks coming.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
This is through seven rounds. We have five receivers on
this squad, a tight end, and the running back we
already have. I'm looking at it right now. Twenty seven
running backs off the board and van Ormer only has one.
We shall see if he's going to draft one here.
The longtime FFPC and Kentucky player takes Brian Robinson from
the commander, So you are right on that Pharaoh. I

(34:10):
want to bring our next guest on. This is a
player that I've had on I don't know countless shows,
and I'll let everybody behind the curtain here a little bit.
This guy was the only guy to do back to
back podcast with me and you say, oh, he was on.
He was on back to back shows or whatever, like
you know, a week to week. No, I screwed up

(34:32):
my recording and we it didn't record. So I called him.
I said, hey, can we can we just do the
same show we did all over again, and thankfully it
was only like thirty five or forty minutes. But he
was a baller and he handled it, and he's on
with us right now. He was the latest guest on
the road of his high stakes Lowdown this month and

(34:54):
longtime FFPC Kentucky player, so many wins I don't even
know how many to count anymore. He is is on
x at VC underscore staff. He is the incomparable Vince
staph Alino. Vince, welcome aboard tonight.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
Can look good?

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Eric, Hey Ferrel, how are you good?

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Doing good?

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Man?

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Doing good? The real question is how are you doing
in the eleventh spot tonight as we are basically a
third of the way through your draft.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Really like the wide receiver depth I've developed there, and
I like my lion stack with a Moan Laporta and
running it back with Addison Week seventeen final game in Minnesota.
So that's that's the game I want to stack for sure.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
I like that. You know, even if they move Addison
to running back, he's still going to be listed here
as a receiver. Just boy that out. Yeah about that, Vince,
what are you gonna do? I mean, Pollard, I like
that pick. Congratulations on that. I was curious is who
you were going to end up with? And I agree
with your draft in a lot of ways that sometimes

(36:01):
the least important player on a fantasy lineup is this
number two running back? Is this a trend that we'll
see moving forward with the Vince staph Alino or is
this a special thing that you're doing tonight?

Speaker 2 (36:17):
So this is a best ball mentality, wouldn't wait that
long on my second running back in redraft. Had a
good pros versus Joe's back in twenty twenty three when
I won my league and then finished seventh overall, and
I kind of build a team like this with a
strong wide receiver in the middle. Jon up at the

(36:38):
top had some late round gems come through like a Chaan.
I think I got him in the twelfth and then
Tank Dell in the eighteenth. So hopefully I find some
magic like that later in this draft.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Tonight doesn't surprise me. I'm betting on you. Vince.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Well, thank you, Vince.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
You know the other thing I just noticed about your team,
and I don't know, maybe you purposely did this or
purposefully did this, maybe you didn't. You have a lot
of late round in mid round stacking opportunities here with
you mentioned Saint Brown and Laporta, but Smith and Jigbook Wattle,
Judy Addison, I mean, all these guys and you don't
have any quarterbacks team, and maybe that's that's better because

(37:19):
now you have all this flexibility, uh to make sure
you're stacking these guys up. Was was that? Did that
go into the equation at all? When you're picking these
guys early on?

Speaker 2 (37:27):
For sure? Yeah, I knew I was gonna wait on quarterback,
and I think obviously the stacking opportunities are pretty obvious.
I'm not giving anything away here, but they're guys you
can get in the double digit rounds, which is great.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Did you have what was sort of like your thoughts
when you knew you were drafting in the eleven spot
between Leoni and Boone? What was your what was your
you know, thought process on how you thought your first
few picks were going to go.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Well, you know, I thought Gent would be there for sure.
I was hoping neighbors maybe, But I think that's kind
of where it stops McBride. There's no way he's gonna fall.
I would have loved to have had him for sure. Yeah,
I don't think I could take a Chan in the
first So if he would slipped to two point oh two,

(38:17):
that would have been nice.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
What was the reason that you like Gens over eight Chans?

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Where's that big chain? Oh?

Speaker 1 (38:29):
I got it, I got it, put it on?

Speaker 4 (38:32):
Here we go? Where is the chain?

Speaker 1 (38:35):
I got it?

Speaker 4 (38:35):
When the when the guest calls an? As for the
props book, well, in.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Jail with with Gent, I think he has a chance
to be the RB one overall, and I don't think
a Chan does. So it's a little bit that unknown upside.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
What do you say? What do you say to the
And we had this come up in an earlier show,
and and I had to bite my tongue. Had nothing
to do with this player being a raider. But somebody
in the chat room the other night, and a good
player said, I think Gend's going to be a bust.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
How yeah, what.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Circumstances that does not include injury.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
That's that's a tough sell for me. Like I think,
like if you say he's going to be a bust,
it kind of depends how high you're taking him. It's
hard for me. As long as he stays healthy, it's
hard for me to say that he's not going to
return late first round value if he gets hurt. Okay,
well bets are off, Vince, I gotta I gotta ask
you here, Tyrone, Tracy was the pick that you just

(39:36):
made at the nine to eleven. Skataboo goes right after
that to Justin Boone. You had the choice between the
Giants running backs, you went Tracy over Scataboo.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Here, Why was that?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
If I was gonna have to have one of the two,
I take Tracy. I saw some good things last year.
I was really hoping I'd be able to get both
double up that backfield. I've done that in a couple
best balls so far. But Justin was smart enough to
not let that happen.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah, such is life. It didn't happen. But what is
happening is your ten h two pick right now? Three
running backs, five receivers, a tight end. We just saw
a round that featured six quarterbacks. Are you going to
look at that position here?

Speaker 2 (40:17):
I think I have to for my ultimate stack here.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Laporta, There you go, Saint Brown. Welcome on, Jared Goff
on the Vince staff Alino squad. Here at the eleven
hole tonight, Goff, Laporta, and in Saint Brown. I guess
there's a possibility you could grab another line later on,
but you know, you don't need to worry about that
at this point. There are some other stacking opportunities that
you have here as well. I was reading, or maybe

(40:47):
I was listening to somebody talk about Laporta and how
his twenty twenty four was a bit of a letdown
Vince from twenty twenty three. But sometimes I think we're
a prisoner of our own expectations. He still had a
really good year in twenty twenty four, and I think
he's on for for you know, I guess I'm preaching
to the converted here, but I think he's on for
another really good twenty twenty five. Here, you clearly believe

(41:08):
the same thing. Taking him with the second pick in
the fourth.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Round, Yeah, I do. I do too, John Morton taking over.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Yes, I think they're going to keep I think they're.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Going to keep business as usual. In my opinion, why
would they? Why would they break something? Fix something that's
not broken?

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Right?

Speaker 4 (41:25):
How nervous? Who are you that golf wasn't going to
come back to you?

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I didn't I yeah, did.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
You say that?

Speaker 2 (41:34):
I probably, I probably could have probably could have waited.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I wouldn't have messed around with Evince. I think you
did the right thing there. I expect, like you, you
are invested into into the Detroit Lions here. You obviously
want to be a business with them. There's no reason
to uh to needle it with with Jared Goff, I
think you did the right thing there and getting him.
What's the over under on suspension for Jordan Addison? Like, like,
how many I should say over under? How many games

(42:01):
do you think he gets suspended this year?

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Vince?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Two to four?

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Two to four? Okay, fair enough and go ahead.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
No, this is a this is a long, a long
game here, right. I have plenty of people to fill
in that gap until he comes back from suspension. And
I think that he's the kind of guy that can
do you know, one of those two or three TV
games in the dull and late in the season that
wins you a week, or wins you the league, or

(42:31):
maybe wins the overall competition in PBJ vinced you know
to that end talking about the suspensions, did you consider
Rashie Rice at all over Jackson Smith and Jigma. I didn't, No,
I didn't. I like jsn's profile. I wanted a couple
of high volume PPR receivers and I thought he paired

(42:55):
well with Saint Brown. I do have the four by
week eight right there to start the draft. But oh well,
it's best ball.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah, it's best ball, and and it's total points, and
it's all about just beating eleven people, which I think
you definitely have a leg up on doing it. This
is a strong team that I think nobody is surprised
that you have drafted and put together so far. Vince,
I wish you good luck the rest of the way.
Thank you so much for hopping aboard the road of
his high stakes low down with me a couple of
weeks ago. And oh, by the way, just here where

(43:26):
this interview just never went out to the stream that
we just did, so I need you the whole thing again.
I'm just kidding. Great first half of the draft. Keep
it up and we'll see it very soon. We'll see
in Las Vegas, right, see in Vegas.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Thanks. Oh, I appreciate hearing from you.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
There you go, all right, guys, take care.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, yeah, that's Vince, Steph Alino. Vince. I should have
brought this up. He was on, but I know he's
got to get back to the draft. Vince is a
big Ohio State fan Pharaoh, and he told me something
I never heard of, and I'm probably gonna butcher it now,
but when he was growing up because obviously Ohio State

(44:08):
and Michigan those fans don't like each other, no, and
he said something to the effect of it was when
he was growing up in Columbus and you you'd be
in the bathroom and you'd flush and like a number two,
and they always say flush twice because those it's a
long way for those pipes to get to ann Arbor,
which I thought was hilarious. When when you're in Columbus

(44:29):
and it's all about, you know, the rivalry, and this
is what they're doing to the people, and you.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Had better material, Bunkie.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
I don't know when Vince sold it to me. I
thought it was hilarious, and I think it's a delivery
that you said.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Probably you should have ask Vince.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
See, this is why I can't do a late night show.
I would I screw stuff up like this.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
But you can do anything you want. Once Johnny Carson
asked Audrey Hepburn how old she was? Anybody you have,
everybody make a mistake on you know, she had the
best shit, the best response of any woman you've ever heard.
All Right, he looked at it, and she says, Johnny,
I'll forgive you for asking, if you'll forgive me for

(45:08):
not telling.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Love that was on the tonight show that really happened.
I really that's fantastic. Berrel Segmund Bloom has cobbled together
a strong team, some would say quite strong. In the
YouTube chat right now, if you look at his squad
from the two hole, you have Mayfield and Mahomes as
his quarterbacks. He has gotten Jonathan Taylor, Chuba Hubbard, Ramandre

(45:31):
Stevenson and now Rashad White in his backfield. Receivers are
a little light Wilson, DeVonta Smith and Jacoby Myers, and
then he's got Bowers and Craft. I always say, have
to be weak somewhere and again in the FFPC pros
versus Joe's any ff PC leagues, you only have to
start two receivers, so you know it's fine to be
strong at all these other spots. You just got to
cobble to the receivers together late. I do agree with

(45:53):
the YouTube chat. I think this is a very fun team.
This is a very exciting team. Most of all, it's
very competitive team.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
Yeah, and Wilson is gonna catch a great, great number
of passes. So I think Wilson probably scores for him
every week, if not eighty percent of him. So really
he's just he's got to find that second scorer. And
if Craft is as good as everyone thinks he is
going to be, well, what he'll do with Boers will

(46:21):
be fantastic. So you take Wilson at one hundred, catches
em Bowers at one hundred and forty with the one
point five or one hundred and eighty with the one
point five, before you know it, he's a real threat
his quarterbacks to go to wait that late and get

(46:41):
those two guys, he must be crazy, giddy happy.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, I would say so, and I'll and the other
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(47:06):
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y ffpc dot com. What I wanted to get with
with blooms team is at your insight on Rashad White

(47:28):
is picking up a little steam. I just draft drafted
Bucky Irving I think for like the second time, but
the first time in months today, So I'm excited about that.
But I also understand Rashad White is a player that
isn't exactly going away, and if we do see some
regression in the mean with Irving, doesn't that suggest a
positive regression for Rashad White Bloom gets him at the
running back thirty eight in the eleventh round tonight, starting

(47:51):
to think White's a little bit undervalued? Am I wrong?

Speaker 4 (47:53):
I know you are bulky and then you know so
and it's part of the stack and it's it's a
nice it's a nice play in I like it, Mark Twain,
reports of my death what have been.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Have been greatly exaggerated, greatly exaggerated.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Whit You could say that as well about him.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
I am looking at the aces High squad from the
eighth spot. That is our good buddy Dan Williamson and
of course our friend Bradley Staalder. They host the Stack
Hunters podcast on the Player Profiler podcast network. They are
drafting from the eighth spot tonight, and there is a
Vikings tinge to this team, as Dan Williamson is a

(48:37):
big Vikings fan. They get Jefferson in the first round,
and no surprise that they get JJ McCarthy here in
the eleventh. I remember the days when I was listening
to Dan Williamson and reading Dan Williamson and say I
am getting JJ McCarthy as the number three quarterback on
all my best ball teams without even really trying, and
now he is. He has ascended. Now I'm a little
surprised he lasted as long as he did tonight, but

(48:59):
he the number two tonight at quarterback nineteen similar to that,
you know what he was saying earlier on has the
love gone too far? McCarthy? Are we actually overdrafting him
right now? Or is this still a spot you want
to be in business with this quasi rookie quarterback in
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
I don't want it, but I understand why he did,
and I don't like him paired with Purdy at all.
So I'll be anxious to see who the third quarterback is.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
But why don't you like the Party, Perry?

Speaker 4 (49:29):
I don't believe you know. It was a significant drop
off for Party last year, and I think we're going
to see a bigger drop off. Okay, I just don't.
I just I'm not particularly impressed with the direction of
that team. Get McCaffrey back where Caaffrey's going to do
some wonderful things, But that doesn't necessarily help Perdy hit

(49:50):
these receivers. There's questions at all the receiver positions. And
I love Juwan Jennings. I was drafting him in the
eleventh round as my third and fourth receiver a couple
of years ago. Somebody's gonna emerge as a number one receiver.
I don't think I would draft him as a number
one receiver as much as I like his play, So
I'm just that's not gonna be the quarterback that I
wanted to draft.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
There.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Our guy Jimmy Williams too in the YouTube chat, points
out that not only is JJ McCarthy and Justin Jefferson
on that team, they got TJ. Hockinson on that squad
as well, So they got a lot of purple stacking
going on there, especially with Hockinson. So the the tactic
we have talked about on this show we've done pros ors,

(50:33):
the jokes for several years now is taking two quarterbacks
in the top six rounds? What happens if you don't
do that? For what happens if you take one tight
end a tight end, not quarterback. If I said quarterback,
I'm sorry, but taking two tight ends in the first
six rounds? What happens if you flip it and you
taken Djoku in the sixth and Dallas Goddard in the tenth,

(50:54):
like Mauricio Gutierrez that he's on the clock right now here.
If you do something like that within Joku and God,
you can see his whole team there. You feel like
this sets him up for having four tight ends on
this squad instead of three.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
I hope so, because I don't care for either of
those guys and certainly don't like him on the same squad.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Is it the quarterback situation in Cleveland and then just
the pecking order in Philadelphia.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Pecking order in Philadelphia. Availability of the player. I think
he's a great football player, but a little bit well,
he's like a poor man's kittle in fantasy football, because
Kettle is a great football player. But in Fantasy Philly,
he's asked to do so many things by the forty
nine Ers, a team Sean Green that I absolutely love.
He's asked to do so many things as forty nine

(51:39):
ers that he can sometimes disappear in that offense. I
know he puts up big numbers. Goddard disappears quite often
to the Philadelphia offense, and he has a hard time
staying on the field. It's not a play for me.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
I want to talk about the tight ends for Josh
has a squad specifically John and Smith who just went
off the board to rot a ball. The rotor ball
or Hunger can Josh Hayes twelve O seven is where
Johnnay Smith balls can? I how do you think that
that situation is going to resolve itself? From a best
ball season long standpoint? Here between Smith and Friarmouth catching

(52:14):
balls from Aaron Rodgers this year, Pharrell, so many new
working parts there. I just don't know what to make
of it, and I feel like I've just been kind
of avoiding it for few of the unknown. But maybe
I should be targeting one of these Pittsburgh guys. What
do you make a smith here?

Speaker 4 (52:27):
You remember that little funky sowing by Johnny Cash. I've
built it one piece at a time by putting the
car together he brought it. There's no there's no synchronicity
of that Steeler office. Now, maybe all those great veteran
players come together and it looks beautiful in its execution.
But I'm I those are two tideas that I respect

(52:52):
tremendously in the high stakes format that I'm playing in
this format, I'm okay with it if that's what you
want to do. But once we put that FFPC entry
fee down on the table and have to compete. I'm
thinking that I might want to compete with some other
tight ends.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
There was one KFFFC Best Ball team and I looked
at it. I have like, through like sixteen or seventeen rounds,
fail and then try to do it. I have like
nine rookies. It's insane. And one of the pairings I
have for rookies on that team, my top two tight
ends are the same top two tight ends that Michael
Leoni has drafted from the ten hole tonight. The two rookies.

(53:31):
He gets Tyler Warren here in the seventh, he gets
Colston Lublin here in the ninth. He has kind of
like sandwiched those picks with Kyler Murray and Caleb Williams.
So he attacked the receiver and running back position early on,
and I think there are some electric choices there running back. Now,
we'll see what he cobbles together here because he's only
got three running backs through round eleven. But what do

(53:53):
you make of that strategy? And I'm not saying it
was a strategy to go out and draft both rookie
tight ends, but what do you make of having in
this format your top two tight ends, both being rookies.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
I would trade both those guys for likely Henry and
maybe even zach Ertz. I don't, I don't understand, uh
what we expect from those players, especially with Loveland coming
through that injury situation that he had. And I know
he's been granted that he's ready to go, but that's

(54:26):
the kind of injury that you have at a tight end position.
It could be difficult to play at the level that
you would want a young player playing that. So I don't,
I don't know. And who is there with Loveland at
the other tight end position? Tyler Warren? Tyler Warren, No, No,
who's a who's a teammate in there in the real team?

(54:48):
Come out? And Cole Commett? What is co Comett? Du balk?
You taught me that he did this? Not a Cole
Comit fan? You won me over. What does co Comit do? Well?

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Just catch his balls? I mean, yeah, he catches some touchdowns. Yeah,
I think I think that. You know, the Loveland thing
is interesting. You know, we'll we'll see how he handles
training camp going forward, coming off the shoulder. But a
rookie coming in already has everything stacked up against him.
You don't want to add an injury onto that as well.
Now I've been drafting Loveland, so it's it's not like

(55:18):
I'm running afraid uh from Loveland. But I understand the
misgivings here.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
You don't live in fear.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
You don't live in fear neither.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
I've got him on the Dynasty teams, and I love
him as player and love the potential. I just think,
you know, rookie tied ends are slow cook and you're
going to be hungry in this uh, in this league
from game one.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Mike Leoni is on the clock right now here in
the thirteenth round. I think we're in Yeah, And he
just took Luther Burden, and I'm glad he did because
this goes in with the whole narrative I have for
his squad right now, Pharaoh. If you look at Leoni's
squad from established the run at the ten spot tonight,
it is all young, It is all explosive. You look
at the quarterbacks, Kyler Murray, who wants to run more

(56:00):
this year. Caleb Williams, you obviously gets the Ben Johnson upgrade.
The running backs Brice Hall, a player that I think
a lot of people are betting on a big year
for him, and based on what the coaches are saying,
I think that they're going to lean more into Hall,
a player that was being drafted in what the top
five last.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
Year or whatever it was.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Draveon Henderson, a guy that we were all excited about
before the NFL Draft, and I think many excuse me,
many of us still are given where he is and
he's in an up and coming offense. Bay shell touton
maybe the most athletic running back in the draft not
named Ashton Genty. He goes there as well. And then
the receivers Neighbors and Collins elite target monsters, right, Marvin Harrison,

(56:38):
who I'm a big fan of as a bounce back
player this year, pairing with him with Kyler Murray Tteroro McMillan,
the number one wide receiver kind of drafted in the
twenty twenty five NFL Draft. And then you have Iuku,
granted is not the youngest guy or the most explosive guy,
but his value is depressed because of the ACL right,
and you get him around thirteen. And then Luther Burden,
one of the first players drafted on Day two of

(56:59):
the NFL Draft, another explosive playmaker that Oh, by the way,
he's got his quarterback on this team in Caleb Williams,
so there's a stack there as well. So Leoni is
putting together this team of youth and explosion, and I
think youth and explosion is sort of the traditional way
to not only win your league and prosers and Joe's,
but when the whole damn thing as.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
Well, exactly, And then following that narrative, he threw us
a real.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
That's okay because the balance is a necessity. And I really,
I really like what I really like what he's doing.
I can't say I would have done it myself, especially
we talked about bunching those tight ends and quarterbacks there.

(57:48):
But you know, he's he's got a lot of talented
players here. So I'll give him a good job of
put this game.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
And I'll say this right now, like I if I
was the only and listen, he's forgotten more about fantasy
football and I'll ever know, but I will tell you this,
I might be done with receivers now. At this point.
He's got seven of them, and of those seven, four
of them were drafted in the first five rounds, so
he's very top heavy there. He needs to get more
guys in the backfield, which I'm sure he's aware of,

(58:17):
and I would probably get at least one more tight
end and definitely one more quarterback too. So when you're
talking about, you know, a quarterback and a tight end,
soaking up two more spots, maybe another tight end, and
then you only have three spots left for running backs,
just to get you six. I think he's kind of
got the rest of his draft mapped out, at least
from where I'm sitting my thirty thousand mile view, that's

(58:38):
where I would be looking to go if I were him.
But I'm sure he's got something cooked up for us
that's gonna be a lot of fun. I love the
quarterbacks for Vince staff Alinos squad. We just talked to
him about twenty twenty five minutes ago. He got golf.
He has added Michael Pennix onto this team, another up
and coming quarterback, and then cam Ward on his squad. Now,
I thought that there is going to be a possible

(59:00):
that he would look at a guy like to a
Tongue by Loa. Maybe Sam Darnold is a third quarterback.
Tongue by Loa is gone. I don't think he loads
up with a fourth quarterback anymore. I mean, he's it's
certainly not going with any of the Cleveland guys as
far as stacking goes with Smith and Jig will Waddle
and Judy, but Goff, Pennix and Ward. We don't talk
a whole lot about Ward, but I think he's going

(59:21):
to be an exciting player to watch this year and
for Vince's team here that's his number three quarterback.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
I made an off the cuff comment about Ward the
other night, which was incorrect and poorly added. Sometimes you
just got of learned to shut your mouth up book,
you know, that's for me. But in Ward's case, the
skillful player that the organization is counting on impressively, I

(59:50):
think the rookie wide receiver this there. I'd like to
see if that player makes his way onto Vince's squad
and see what he's doing. He's going to a late
stack on those of those Titans, and I kind of
like it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
The Uh yeah, that's That's a good thing about about
drafting a Ward late is because you do have that
late stacking possibility. FPI has he was the that was
the team Petra and Larson ended up taking Tongue Bay Loa.
They've also added Prescott and Matthew Stafford onto that team
as well Elijah Arroyo and Jake Ferguson. The newly signed

(01:00:24):
Jake Ferguson shout out University of Wisconsin, the badger who
failed to get into the end zone last year but
still secured the bag. Good on Ferguson to get that money.
And does that mean anything about how we view his
role in Dallas this year?

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
Farah, it does.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
And this is with the addition of Pickens this year.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
Too, right, And and so I very much like what
they're doing. I've i've they're two to the number two
and number three quarterback. I think have always been favorites
of theirs there, ignoring some of the reports right now
on Mooney, which I think is the right thing. Arroyo

(01:01:05):
is the interesting player to me here, Balky, isn't that
bargain for Arroyo in the fourteenth round? I thought he was.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Moving up a little further than that tight end twenty
five at the fifteen oh three over the way? Wow,
So they came in, you know, maybe I ought to
pay more attention to.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
My subscription with Darren's. But Arroyo, I think Arroyo proves
to be the steal here, and they needed a steal
and they're gonna need one more, maybe two more tight
ends so that. I don't know if I correctly answered
your question, but I really do continue to like. You know,

(01:01:42):
we liked everybody through Kamara, and I'm impressed with what
they're doing here. I think the quarterbacks is going to
score their points is nationally Prescott. I don't know how
the other guys are going to contribute, but you could
see spike games from either of them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Mentioned the reports on Darnel Mooney who went to f
PI here that we're talking about at the eleven o five.
You think people should be ignoring these about about the
shoulder injury.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Not ignoring, but I think we see.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
That not putting too much stock into him.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Yeah, I mean, you know it's his Uh he's a veteran.
He's a veteran NFL player, and he's not going to
be disabled long and uh his comments as Vince made
a comment on his one player that's going to be suspended.
You know he's playing the long game here. Mooney. Yeah,
that's that's a fine pick where they got it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
The squad that we I don't think we've talked about
Alan al Leach's squad here drafting along with I believe
Kyle if I'm remembering correctly, I don't want to speak Yeah,
Albert and Kyle Leach from the from the three spot tonight.
Uh Bjon Robinson, which apparently do you hear this Farrell
that we've been It's not Bijon Robinson. It's Bijon Robinson

(01:03:01):
Mustard and it's the John Robinson Bucky Irvings. So a
couple of high volume running backs there in the top
two rounds. Higgins Worthy Metcalf right after that to fill
in that wide receiver. He's gotten Evan Ingram, Evan Ingram's
old teammate, Brenton Strange, and now Theo Johnson. In the
fifteenth round. Pacheco is part of his backfield. He's got
Nixon Stroud there, Mims Higgins Downs has been added to

(01:03:25):
those guys. To the Leeches squad here. This is an
interesting team too, where they pound running back and receiver
early and then just kind of keep spicing, spicing tight end,
sprinkling tight end through Ingram. In the sixth Strange in
the twelfth, Johnson in the fifteenth. I think they still
need one more quarterback, and I think they they in
my opinion, I think they've got some work to do
at running back. But maybe I'm wrong on that because

(01:03:47):
they are really really top heavy at running back, as
top heavy as anybody is in this draft.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
Who are we talking about here? I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
This is Alan Kyle Leach from the three spot of
the Jean Robinson team. Before he answered that, I'll just
tell you this right now. They're the only team in
this draft that went running back running back, so ostensibly
you would think that they're running back duo or their
top two running backs excuse me, are as good or
better than anybody else's duo in this draft.

Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
Go ahead, I love I love their third back as well,
and kudos on them for a great choice at that point.
Pitt checko and that's a wonderful thing. I don't know
if I would have bought into the Tyler, Algeier or
Allgier pick at that point.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
But you're basically locking up the Falcons running game with Roberts.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
If you Yeah. But I don't think they're going to
give that ball. I don't think they're going to give
the ball to Tyler that often, like they did last
year inside the ten, inside the five. That was disappointing
for all the Robinson owners, but fair enough, I think
they need two more run If you have to keep

(01:05:01):
picking them straight, it's going to be a pretty good situation.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Yeah, I think one more quarterback, two more running backs
probably wouldn't kill you to get another receiver. But that's
that's neither here nor there.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
And then I'll tell you what your guy Blue got
drafted he needed to get drafted, Yeah, and well what
do you Pharaoh?

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
But like my guy Blue, I guess he has been
as far as dynasty goes. But like, what do you
make of that Dallas situation? I just keep looking at
it from the standpoint of like, Okay, they drafted him
in what the fifth round this year, which is more
like a fourth round pick given how good and deepness
class was, and then he's got to beat out Javonte Williams,
who was not signed for a lot, who Denver was

(01:05:41):
more than willing to let go of. And then Miles
Sanders are basically a bucket of balls. Like it's just
I don't I don't I see the pathway for Blue.
It's it's it's fairly clear for me and to get
him in the thirteenth round. I understand the whole narrative
about him and let me by the way, I think

(01:06:02):
Ben Gritch was reading his Stealing signals today. He pointed
this out, that report about Jayden Blue being lazy and
you know he needed a kick in the rear or whatever.
That report came from a Cowboys coach who hadn't hasn't
been a Cowboys coach for twenty years. I didn't realize
he was out of the building that long. And then
when other coaches, and I guess you would expect this,

(01:06:23):
but other coaches, other people around the building were asked
about this Jade and Blue report, and they all went
the other way. It's like that's not true at all,
which you would expect. So I don't know. I just
I think people are making too much of that. I
think that I can see Jade and Blue having a
few pockets where he strings together some good games this year.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
Oh that's that's yeah and what not. And I'm just
as excited about Bill Merritt because it we talked about
this Friday night, and I like where he could go.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
In rise he hasn't been has been drafted. I'm surprised
he han't been drafted. But Billy Billy Van Norman drafts
Bill Merritt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that was a fourth
straight And look what Bill's doing here too. We talked
about his running back situation. You correctly made the prediction

(01:07:18):
that he would take a running back in the eighth.
He does with Brian Robinson. But what do all his
his running backs have in common? Here? I should say
all of them, but I mean he's got what six
running backs, and four of them are rookies. Five of
them are rookies. He's got Hampton, He's got Blue Smith
and Krossky Merritt, So four out of his six running
backs are rookies. And sometimes I think that's what you need.

(01:07:39):
Like I I often say in Dynasty, you know, these
a lot of these rookie running backs just red shirt
for the year. But if you draft a bunch of
them at the end, when you already have that wide
receiver corps, these guys can just be good. Like I
said for Bill Merritt.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Like everybody agrees that Ray Davis is looking at a
better year than he had last year.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Yeah, yeah, I would think so.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
I mean, just like the regression last year.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
The regression for Cook and and then these guys don't
have to be smashes, right, They don't have to crush
it for you all season. They just have to get
you by a few weeks and sometimes that's enough. He
adds Joshua Palmer here in the sixteenth round, does Bill
van Rmer here? I like the Jarquez Hunter pick here
at the end of the sixteenth round for Lindo and

(01:08:23):
Kuzmano at the sixteen twelve to go with their Jacobs, Brown, Mixon,
Spears and Hunter. Adam Hahn was in the chat earlier
on YouTube and said Mixon wasn't an auto pick, And
you know, I look at a running back thirty one
at the nine to one. Yeah, maybe that's a little
bit rich based on what we're hearing, but that could
pay off. Farrell, how have you been handling mixing and drafts.

(01:08:43):
And I'll tell you this right now. In the FFPC
Best Ball Tournament over the last three days and this
is mostly including when this news came out about Mixon
running back twenty two at the five eleven, they're basically
getting three rounds of value on him right here. If
Mixon ends up, you know, playing early on in the season,
if he doesn't play till October, we might have a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
I have no news on it and no understanding of it,
but you know, Mixon is a fantastic player who will
work hard to get back on the field. Injuries don't
heal on their own. They heal through through effort, through
the medical staff, through player's mindset. It's not all. Not

(01:09:28):
all players heal and handle injury in the same way.
And Mixon has been a hard nosed player for a
long time. So that's a that's a risk, especially at
that draft spot that I'm willing to take.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Keaton Mitchell is a player that I've been looking at
later on in my draft singing and Bloom grabs him
at the seventeen oh two. Do you think there was
any inkling that if he would have made it to
Pee Triyan Larsen here at the seventeen at the seventeen
oh five, that they would have taken him to go
with Derrick Henry.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
Yeah, that is a perfect decision as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
We have not talked about the Joneses squad much. We
touched on it a little bit from the seventh spot tonight,
and I want to talk about Dennis and Stephen Jones's
team fairrely. I know you can't see the top two picks,
but they have started off Barkley and Kittle and then
they get Josh Allen. They have the true rainbow start
where they had one player at each position Barkley, Kittle,

(01:10:27):
Allen Adams. They added Kelsey in the in the fifth, Swift,
Shakir Godwin, Warren Cupp, Herbert Bigsby, Judkins, dealing Otten Sanders,
Diami Brown. So just gaming all those players off, I
think that there are well, let me just frame it
like this. The Jones is picked in the draft night,

(01:10:49):
not in order, but they have these guys on their squad,
Saquon Barkley, Travis Kelcey, DeAndre Swift, Chris Godwin, Cooper Cup, Quinn,
Shawn Judkins. Now, say what you will about those players.
They're on the list I just made because of either
age or some other stuff going on, you know, whether
that's heavy usage, last year, off the field stuff. But

(01:11:12):
this is another squad that I think gets it. Like,
you don't have to agree with all their picks, but
when you look at what they've done here They've mixed
in some high volatility guys with some really staty eddies Kittle, now,
Davonte Adams and uh and And I think that that
the way that they've cobbled this team together from the middle,

(01:11:33):
which is not always easy to do. I like, Like
I said, I don't like all the picks, but I
like what they're doing overall.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
Well, he said Pitcher and Larson, we're a buick of
the draft. This is Grandma's bwick of the draft. But
but yeah, I'm I understand all these players they're going
to maybe, you know, in this in this format, maybe
you handcuff a couple of wide receivers. But all in all,

(01:12:00):
I can see how this team I would have done
it differently. I guess I've got to come with an
idea of where I would draft Kittle. But you know,
I love I love their players and what they've done.
They've got plenty at tight end because of who their
tight end is. Let's see if they had one more.
You know, I wish I was looking at the list
of the valuable players. Some of them are going now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
But there's a lot of tight ends. I mean, we're
seeing a bunch of them go off the board here
thirty four of them. Harold Fannon just went to the
Vince staff Alino, so thirty four of them are now
off the board. Tight End pickings are getting slim for sure.
Moving over to Team twelve, that's Justin Boone with Yahoo
Fantasy Sports, and I think he's really the only team. Well,

(01:12:44):
we'll talk about team one. We haven't talked about Lindo
and Kuzmanos. Well, I guess we kind of did a
little bit. We have not talked about Justin Boone squad
at all. The quarterbacks Jaden Daniels, Gino Smith, Jackson, Dart Farrell,
the running backs Ah Chan, James Connor, Cam Skaddaboo, JK. Dobbins,
Roshawan Johnson, Jalen Wright. Receivers are Puka Nakula Rashi, Rice

(01:13:06):
Roma Dunza and Mecca Abuka, Keon Coleman, Trey Harris. And
then tight ends are Dalton Kinkaid, chig A Konko and
Darren Waller. Again, I don't like all these picks, but
you look at what he's doing here, young and explosive
Rice Nkua a Chan Daniels is another one too. Odonsay
King kid who I just read today. I think it

(01:13:27):
was a football guys was saying that using some Buffalo
report that they're throwing downfield more to Kinkaid this year
than they have the first two years, and like, this
is what we wanted, this is what they should have drafted.
They drafted him, they should have been doing this all one.
I'm glad to see it at Buka, who everybody loves
right now, Cam skatabooy the young uh running back in
New York. You got Coleman, Trey Harris, another rookie and

(01:13:50):
so and then obviously that the the age like a
fine wine with a Conko and Waller to go with Kinkaid.
So question marks at tight end. Yes, I I don't
think it's the safest group in the world. I think
running back, we'll see if it comes through. I think
he's a little weak there. I think the receivers are fine.
He's got Rice and you're gonna have to count on

(01:14:11):
o'doonsay and Buka and Coleman to get you through those
weeks when when Rice is you know, essentially unavailable. We
think he's going to be suspended. But but you know,
getting that Jade and Daniels thing, that's kind of a panacea.
It kind of heres all. So, not my favorite team
from Justin and he'll be on the Insider Access show
with me on the Better Sports Network coming up next month.
Very excited for that. It's not my favorite team in

(01:14:33):
the world, but I get what he's doing here and
sometimes real it's difficult to draft on the end.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
Yeah, and he's drafting a lot of players that we've
talked about, and I'm sure that he's talked about and
when they when you know, when they reside in the
very very front of your head and the end the
tip of your the tip of your tongue, you're going
to go out and pull that trigger on some of them.
And I don't necessarily like this team either it and
I've seeing that he has two quarterbacks. Is that's the
correct number?

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Three? He's got Daniels, Gino Smith, and jo.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
I didn't see Daniels yet. I scrolled down.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
I scrolled down.

Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
I feel a little better about that. And I took
the cap to him of taking a flyer on Waller
and the thought that Dart will see some meaningful time,
especially towards the end of the season. So I like
what he's doing in the back half of it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Yeah, the back half looks strong. People. I think people
Jalen Wright is starting to pick up a little bit
of steam right now. And we'll see with Roshawn Johnson.
But if you don't like Swift, I think you probably
should like Johnson where he's going right now as well.
What do you make of this Harold fannin pick that
Vince took Vince Staphelino took from the eleven spot in
the eighteenth round. Is Fannon going to have redraft value

(01:15:43):
this year behind David and Joku? He caught a billion
passes last year? Does that continue right away his rookie
year in the NFL?

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
I don't know. Bowling Green Falcon to the NFL, I don't know. Yeah,
there's some very very good players that come out of
that program. They're getting better every year. I like the player.
Count on him in this format. He would be my
tight end four. But you know he's you know, he's
he lives in Vince's world, So that's good enough for me.

(01:16:10):
We'll see how he does. I'm rooting for the player,
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Speaking of young tight end, Sigmund Bloom grabbed another one here.
We have Brock Bauers, Tucker Craft early on for Bloom
and now he's added Jatavian Sanders, a young breakout type
guy in Carolina, and then Ronda Gadston parall that people
are talking up in Los Angeles right now. Yeah, Tyler

(01:16:35):
Conklin's there, but we kind of know what Tyler Conklin is.
We don't know what Gadsden is and with the players,
we don't know what they are. Those are the players
I want to draft late. I know it's best ball
and he's on your team all year. You can't make
any changes. But eighteenth round tight end thirty seven with Gadston,
even already having Bowers, Craft and Sanders, I think that's
a fun player to take a chance on here.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
I think it is too. I like Gadsden's I like
his history, his proverbial bloodlines is being coming from a
football family, and based on who else is left, I'm
willing to I'm willing to go with that. I like
him better than Coughlin and Higbee, who we've seen their

(01:17:18):
best efforts for Fantasy football, good football players, but we've
seen their best numbers in past games.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Noah Gray has now been the latest selection for Billy
Van Ormer. Here in the nineteenth round, Noah Gray joins
a tight end room with Team van Ormer featuring Trey
McBride and Isaiah Likely. This is an interesting pick. Do
you think what kind of role does Gray have? Are
we going to see him potentially take over the tight
end position us for Kelsey this year?

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
Kelsey would have to be injured twice because he would
play hurt, So he'll play hurt in front of Gray.
So no, I don't think Noah Gray can it can
help Billy van Ormer's team. And Aba you said, if
you want a third tight end, who's it gonna be?
You know so? And he loves, you know, he just

(01:18:08):
loves drafting these receivers. He's he's going a little old
on us with Palmer and Slayton, those guys can still
have big contributing games. But Noah Gray, I think we
could have done something else.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
You know, I had been drafting as like a wide
receiver five and a lot of KFFFC drafts.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
I was in.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Keenan Allen and it was it was based on the
advice that I had gotten from Dan Williamson listing the
stack hunters and reading what he's doing for player profiler
and no surprise tonight, Pharaoh. Look who grabs Keenan Allen
here in the eighteenth round. It's the stack Hunters, It's
Dan Williamson, it's Bradley Stallder and they draft him there.

(01:18:50):
Keenan Allen's gonna find his way in an NFL team
this season.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
Right, Oh? Sure, I would think so hey.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
It may not happen till after the start of the season.

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
Though, yeah, I would think so Hey. Remember we talked
about who Vince might continue his Titans stack with, and
he's gone out there and done it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
He got Cameron Ward in the fourteenth round, and he's
added elick Iam Manner here in the nineteenth the rookie
receiver from Stanford who joins. Kind of an interesting wide
receiver corp there.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
Pharrell.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Obviously Calvin Ridley is the number one, but they utilized
draft capital on both Ia Manner and then they got
the former Badger Shamir d k On on Day three,
he of the Florida Gators. Now he's added onto that squad.
They've signed Tyler Lockett, who I'm not convinced makes the team,
but I could be wrong on that. But that Titans

(01:19:42):
passing I mentioned cam Ward is a fun guy because
of how much he pushes the ball down the field,
and there could be a lot of yolo passes there
this year in Tennessee. With them not being expected to
contend for the playoffs or the super Bowl or anything
like that. It's not the most exciting receiver corps, but
it could be some exciting receiver performances there this year

(01:20:03):
because of cam Warton.

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
Yeah, and everything's new there, so why not go with
the young player there that that would have some upside
with this rookie quarterback, This's gonna be a fun team
to watch. They've got a match up me and old
buddy j R. Finton or thinking about a trip Titans
versus Raiders in Las Vegas. It would be an interesting
team to watch live.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Speaking of said Raiders, Pharrell as I'm still wearing my
chain here tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
We should. You should wear it everywhere, bulky it becomes you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
I sleep in it at night. The Deontay Dante Thornton
pick here in the nineteenth round by Williamson installeder is
this a thing? I mean? I remember it was like
a month ago everybody was talking about like, oh my god,
he's running ahead of Jack Bash and Me camps for whatever.
Should should we still be paying attention to Thornton and
and and Just so all the viewers are aware, I'm

(01:20:54):
asking maybe the president of the Trey Tucker Fan Club too.

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
Yeah. I think that you definitely should be adding this player.
And I think that you've got you've got a challenge
in front of you with so much draft capital on
their first three Fantasy Raiders. But this player could have

(01:21:18):
a couple of spike games. He's got an unusual skill
set and he'll have it because defenses decided to try
to take away some of these other players. I don't
think they've been successful at that, and sometimes when that happens,
a guy like this can run free all over the
field and he's a good ball catcher. The top end
of his routes are really good. Skinny post is his

(01:21:41):
best pattern. I like him, Ferrel.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
I want to close with this tonight, as we are
only three picks away from this draft being done. Who
was your favorite Bears running back drafted tonight with the
value like with what you had to pay for him?
DeAndre Swift at the six, Roshawn Johnson at the fifteen

(01:22:05):
twelve or Kyle m Nungai at the twenty oh eight.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
I don't know enough about the twentieth round pick. Swift
with this coach brings up memories of what he did
with players in Detroit, So I will I will go
team Swift with the Johnson offense.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Team Swift, I think is probably that's probably my favorite
one at cost again tonight. I just think that if
you miss on that pick, it's the sixth round, it's
not going to set you back. And obviously with the
Jones is that is their number two running back and
Jalen Warren is the one right behind it. So I
guess you never know, but you know and.

Speaker 4 (01:22:47):
Think, if your name is Swift, last year you had
a good year. This year probably have a good year.
Probably actually good year to be a Swift.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
It's a good year to be a Swift. It's always
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Speaker 4 (01:23:27):
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