In this episode of Higher Valleys, Spencer and Jelani open with the beautiful chaos of home renovation. Spencer shares how living among half-unpacked boxes and a house that needs a full electrical and plumbing overhaul is teaching him patience, presence, and the art of slowing down. Jelani relates with his own delayed housewarming stories, framing it all as a reminder that life moves in seasons and pivots we can’t always control .
From there, the conversation expands to bigger questions about faith and the future. They break down a sudden wave of rapture predictions and the internet’s obsession with conspiracy theories, exploring how fear of a bleak future drives people to look for certainty in the wildest places .
The dialogue then dives deep into spirituality and history:
They also address today’s charged political climate—processing the public assassination of Charlie Kirk, the rise of coded language and online extremism, and the uncomfortable parallels to their own experiences, like an airsoft bachelor-party encounter that felt more like militia training than weekend fun .
Together, they explore:
Quotes
“Life is just a series of pivots - this house is teaching me to slow down and trust the process.” – SPENCER
“You don’t need anyone to get in the way of your connection to God - that’s your inherent right.” – SPENCER
“When Europeans first came to Africa, they said ‘pray’ - and when we opened our eyes, we had the Bible and they had the land.” – JELANI
“The algorithm mirrors your projections back to you until it feels like reality - that’s real mind control.” – JELANI
Links & Resources:
Follow us on Instagram: @highervalleyspodcast
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.