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October 28, 2025 114 mins

In this episode, Jelani and Spencer move from the Cash Money vs No Limit verzuz battle to the future of student athletes in the super school era. What starts as nostalgia for Southern hip-hop becomes a sprawling conversation about education, identity development, and what happens when money enters the equation too early. Then they pivot to the NBA gambling scandal involving Chauncey Billups and Terry Rozier - unpacking how sports betting has fundamentally changed the integrity of the game.

Topics Covered

Hip-Hop and Regional Pride

  • The verzuz battle in Vegas—Juvenile's stage presence, Mia X as an underrated force
  • Master P bridging New Orleans and the Bay Area
  • Spencer's surreal experience with Lil Romeo at Beverly Hills High

Halloween and Fatherhood

  • Teaching kids to move through fear, not avoid it
  • The haunted house debate: does your girl go in front or behind?

The Super School Question

  • Wellington Sports Academy and IMG - prioritizing sports over traditional education
  • The tension between future earnings and child development
  • Why identity development matters more than early paychecks

Education Reform

  • Real skills that should replace calculus: taxes, Excel, networking, resume building
  • The post-career identity crisis athletes face when sports end

The Gambling Crisis

  • Chauncey Billups and rigged poker games
  • Terry Rozier caught in sports betting
  • Prop betting makes athlete influence tangible
  • LeBron as DraftKings investor while playing; NFL owning 10% of ESPN Bet
  • "Big tobacco is now just gambling"—Jeff Pearlman

Highlight Quotes

  • "We got to have an honest discussion about these old Negroes, bro. These old, unhealed street niggas that are still trying to preserve this version of self that is kind of crumbling under the weight of the future."
  • "Development and love first. And then after that all the beauties that come with the billion dollar industry of sports."
  • "The goal post has just moved like 50 yards closer."
  • "This is only the tip of the iceberg. This is cracking up a well of shit that is going to take a long time to really fully grasp how deep the rabbit hole goes."

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