How Bricc Baby & Yungeen Ace Facing Fed Charges, How J. Cole was right, NC Culture, Evolving in media, No Jumper Invite and more w/ Big Carolina 252
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And it was big podcasts like brick Baby offered me
to come to No Jumper. But the whole time, I'm
glad I didn't do none of this because who's to
say I wouldn't be inside his rico case.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let him know.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
You can't put no pressure on No State for some
outside drama because both y'all boys don't live here.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So if y'all spill all this.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Blood here our market, our people, our music scene, our
police departments, our house and authorities, we got to get
this stuff right. We got to live amongst y'all war
North Carolina. It's so much of a consumer state with
the wrong energy that they want to be a Memphis,
they want to be a Chicago. They want to be
(00:40):
one of these places where really go down there. And
it's like, no, you don't because once you see the
few rappers that's gonna blow out here in the midst
of that ain't gonna equal up to all the drama.
Your grandma got to live with your uncles, your aunt's
got to live with your little cousin.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It ain't worth it.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Nah, that's not the end goal to be street who
wanted to be retire in the streets.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Okay, I'm seventy five.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Now I'm dead and I died against You think that's
something to be proud of.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
More than the part that's a lifestyle styles.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yo yo yo, Welcome to the Highest Point Podcast. This
is a show for everyone who's willing to put in
the label to be greater, to reach the highest point.
And I talk about the man who put into work.
We got none other than Big Carolina two five too.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
You seen him putting on for the state and now
he don't branch his audience fucking country wide. So you know,
I'm so glad to have you on the show. Fan
appreciate that, you know what I'm saying. Like, he's a
return guest, So we're getting straight to the ships today too,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
So, but how you been, man, let's talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
That first good you know, just handling life just hit
thirty man, So you know it's new.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's uh, it got his days.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You know what we feel like, I don't try to
let the pressure of reality tell what it's supposed to
be doing. But then I still got to look at
how blessed I am. Where it's like, bro, you really
in the groove.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
You're supposed to be. It like nigga, don't overthink nothing,
just what you do.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So like you're out here trying to conduct business, you
know what I'm saying, It's like thinking about the big picture.
People need to tune in and listen to this message. Yeah,
and that's the thing, man, when you hit that thirty threshold, Man,
that's like that sweet spot to keep it real, Like
when you're in your twenties, you're still trying to figure
it out. When you cross thirty, it's like, yo, this
is the next phase. It's like, this is these years
(02:28):
are going to determine the rest of my life, you
know what I'm saying. So thinking about that, what is
your goal to go through this next decade?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Starting at thirty, The.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
First thing that I realized is like on a business note,
that it's time for me now to find a business
where I could just run it instead of happening to
be the face card and like physically there, like I'm
glad that I did what I did for so long
over the time perire, because it built a landscape to
(02:58):
like you said now that you're saying and it's like damn,
he kind of right, like he is right where with
me being thirty. I'm glad I used my teenage in
my twenties to really lay this blueprint out so now
I could think in the business mindset. So now I
just been in the path of trying to learn what
can I do on a business mindset. I know I
want to rock with the cars because I know some
(03:19):
little something about cars, So it's got to be the
same way how I apply my internet stuff and make money.
It's like it got to be something that you actually
like or something that you got some time investor or
it's gonna be a job point. So I was thinking
about doing the cars. I still get tied into my
road with the promotion. Then on the flip side, it's
kind of like I think I want to dip it
(03:42):
some more like the four X and like the trading
type stuff. So I'm really trying to figure out who
am I outside of being this artist. Like I've been
doing this since I was like fourteen. Wow, so I
like literally more than half my life. So now it's like, okay, bro,
you've grown now. And then the fact like trying like
not having no kids and being single and like flourishing
(04:04):
to it somewhere. It's like, Bro, you got an open
canvas to figure out who you want to be. Now
it really is trying to find out who I am
as a man and how I want to project his
next You know what I'm saying, structure of my life.
Like you said, I feel like the thirties on beyond.
It's like shit's supposed to matter for real something.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, for sure, it's gonna be a lot of fun,
but like this is one Like yo, this is gonna
be a big impact.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Like I ain't doing shit just for fun all the time,
no more.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
What I'm saying, I want to enjoy my life, but
like yo, it has some meaning behind it, you know
what I'm saying, Like for real. But you know, we
talk about your next steps, but let's talk about the
shit leading up to this.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Let's let's get straight into some of the ships.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Because I've been seeing you online kind of going crazy,
and I wanted to get some insights on what the
hell been going on, you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I'm seeing academics reacting to some shit going on with you,
brick baby, And can you.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Give us a little bit of insight what happened there?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Uh. First, God damn, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
You know what I'm saying, everybody in that penitential situation, man,
uh till you hold your head up, prayers out to
your prayers out to the ones impacted. Uh shot academic,
shout out the younger age, shout the brit baby. You
know what I'm saying for all. Then they gave me
this opportunity. So what happened was, uh, in the midst
(05:27):
of the Julio folio and younger day's situation, in the
midst of day vibe, and they whatever you want to
call it, they wore. After Julio Fulio passed away, brick
Baby said some on line kind of to the I
don't know exactly, I don't want to repeat exactly, but
(05:48):
content lines are like, well, for what I've been hearing,
what I've seen online, Julio Fulio boys been handling their
business back on younger age boys. So for what it's
been said somewhere, I don't know because I don't live there,
but they said like it ain't true. So young in
Ace homeboys and young Ace had something to say about it, like, man,
that ain't any case. So the on line back and
(06:08):
forth started then so a response came in. Brick Baby
was like kind of saying, like, yo, man, I can
make sure you can't come here there, North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Here there.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So once he said North Carolina, I spoke up Younger
Ace just so happened to be coming to North Carolina
the exact same time period he said this. Like when
he said this, Bro was probably like already in the state.
Like I think it's video proof he was here already,
Like he was already here, cool and kicking it. So
I'm kind of saying, like Brick I'm like, yo, I'm
Big Carolina. So Bro, y'all got some negative tension going,
(06:42):
don't bring that down here. And what people don't know
is shout out to my boy DJ Hussein because he
can vouch for this. He had me lined up to
go to the show with Younger Ace and Fedville the
night that him and brick Baby got into it. So
once that's spilled out and I'm seeing people from the
(07:04):
city say certain stuff. I'm seeing people in North Carolina
say certain stuff to brit Baby and Youngest like and
they little stories comment stuff. It's like, Bro, as a
business man, it ain't even safe for me to come
out here and like you said, it was like, Yo,
I'm at a point now where God makes some sense.
I won't like being paid for I was just pulling
up to get the content, but I will always turn
down free content for my safe the ungle fuck who
(07:25):
it is.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So in the midst of that, I'm like, see that
the bullshit already spread through the state.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
So that's why I spoke up on it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Like so in the midst of that brit Baby catch
when my fans they tagging hitting them up, the video
going viral like it's going crazy, so hit me up
and he like, Yo, we chop it up.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Get on the phone.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
He basically tell me, like yo, And I ain't never
I kind of told this side or I ain't never
really tell this side of it before, like he basic.
He basically like, Yo, I get where you're coming from.
I respect it, and you ain't try to come on
old tough guy stuff. You were just speaking up for
the whole and I could have came correct. I could
(08:04):
have said something. I could have said spoke like specifically
who I was talking to, but I was talking in
it to a specific group of people to where I
didn't have to say all of that because they knew
who they was talking to, right, So when I said that, like, yeah,
I might have said the state, but the people there
knew what was going on that I need to talk
(08:25):
to it, you know what I'm saying, So from them,
like you know, then I said someone to post where
I'm like, y'all got the biggest podcast in the world.
I don't see y'all like you doing this, Like if
you're saying that, say it's a North Carolina artists, like
you don't know the North Carolina artists.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So he corrected me on that too.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So he named clap Curry from Greenville, North Carolina. He
was like, bro, I rocked with him, I wrote with
his music, and me being me, I hung up and
called Clapp like, man, let me see what you're talking about,
Like yeah with Brick like yeah, yeah, like yeah he
do the music shit, Like yeah, he been trying to
like name a superstar. Oh he ain't got n I'm
(09:05):
a superstar, J my bad superstar, ta my bad. Bro,
he didn't got my dem said niggas take superstar ta he.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Shot him out. He shot got named homi. Oh. So
all these guys like two five two guys.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So shouting them out like on the show and just
talking on the phone like these North Carolina artists I know,
so like I do know no Carolina artists.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So from there we chopped it up and I.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Get online in the same way how I came vocal
coming at him. I can't vocal my response and my apology.
So I was like, you know, I chopped it up
with Brick. We got it all settled, like we're just
trying to make sure it's stay peace around here in
the state. Like get that ship died down. Now, it
was a cool amount of people like, yeah, they fucked
with it. Well, it's a nice amount like, oh that's
(09:47):
some whole ship. That ain't no that ain't no street ship.
You know a lot of people don't say it under
your post, but they'll share it Today's.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Story and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
So I might got forty comments saying like that's the
right thing, but I probably got like ninety people in
my DM sending me the screenshots and niggas talking crazy,
and you know, niggas always gonna see you the.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Downfall or something.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, for sure, like when it's trying to spread some
bad news, but it's let me know, like, ah, that's
what like, and I'm seeing stuff myself.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I'm seeing people.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
It's like, ah shit, I've finally been waiting to catch
Big Carolina the week. This is my time, and then
I'm seeing all of this transpire out. So in the
midst of that, younger As can perform. That's when he
showing proved like damn Niggas said I can't come here
what So after the first time he said that Younger
Ace was already here. So when it was time for
(10:41):
him to do his response, all right, I got another
show on North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Since Nigga saying I can't be here, watch I go
do my show? Did it? Show went crazy?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
He said that like Niggas said, I can't come to
Krolin Niggas' me fucko type shit. So then brit Baby
get on line with his response and he like yo,
which he didn't. He didn't technically lie, just how he
worded shit. It's how he worded it.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Well, he like yo.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And this we said on the phone, like I said,
like everything said we like a bro.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I never said like.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I was trying to do nothing to Younger Age like
it was never no problem you know what I'm saying.
I got people out there in North Carolina too, and
they knowing what's going on. They already know him what's
going on. So like and I don't want to like
say the politics, but he like, I got people out
there in North Carolina too, they know it's gonna They
seen you, they did all this and that.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
But that won't my intention. I ain't want no beef.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
But I had people out here. You could ask Big Carolina.
So once you say ask Big Carolina, as you just
said that, they think like, oh, Big Carolina is his
people out there. I already just days, probably a day
prior squash the situations like we cool. So now it's like, oh,
that's his people. So now the epitome of that on
(11:58):
the internet shit is already one. Big Carolina ain't riding
with North Carolina. Like, he ain't do no ignorant stuff
and have us out here going crazy crashing out. For two,
he siding with Brick baby. So now it's this whole
spill going on to where I got to be like Brick, like,
I get what you did, but how you said it.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I ain't make it.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Right on my end because that's not really how it
is like it ain't like how you worded it. The
blows overnight started posting stuff like, uh, brick Babies North
Carolina Shooter brick Baby's uh whatever game.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Got you in the middle of it, like like one
of his hitters, or know some people that you can
get agreement like the.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Fact of the word play how he said a little post.
So from there, I took my post. I took him
in the video and I put my post explaining like
this is what he talking about. Like he let me know,
like yeah, he got people down here, but he definitely
let me know, like, Bro, I ain't even trying to
do that. He even said, like, Bro, that nigga hard
as fuck, and that nigga really don't play like them
(13:04):
young niggas don't play like he blatant like bur them
boys ain't. Yeah, like he said, like I ain't saying
I'm a back down, but I know them some boys
is like they they what they gonna play with. And
I say, if they put their time there, that's what
they're gonna do. So he was really bigging them up.
But he also was saying, like bro, it's just even
if I was wrong, like the same way, how I'm
(13:24):
correcting stuff with you. I corrected with them, but it's
just content, like he like, really, like I'm getting paid
off of whatever. So that was his his spill on it,
like it's just content.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Whatever. They get mad and whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
If I'm wrong and they showed me I'm wrong, whatever,
I correct myself but whatever. But in the midst of that, uh,
the internet spewing my DEM's all.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
They going crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
So I get britt Baby and younger Ace Homeboary on
the Live together. So at first they going there, they
going to each other nets and stuff. So now it's time.
It's my time to intervene. So when the younger Ace
Homeboy gimk jimk, he jump on line. He like, yo,
what you own? Like you over there rock with brick Baby,
(14:06):
But I'm like, nah, bro, it ain't the point of
rocking with it.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Was like I'm letting him know.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You can't put no pressure on those state for some
outside drama because both of y'all boys don't live here.
So if y'all spill all this blood here our market,
our people, our music scene, our police departments, our house
and authorities, we got to get this stuff right. We
got to live amongst y'all war. So it's like I'm
a nigga literally get money in the midst of this.
(14:33):
So it's like I ain't even trying to be calling
me and it's to the point what if I called
somebody out there to the event and they get hit
or you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
So it's just a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I'm like, bro, I feel like, if it's possible to
be spared because the in and f internet beef, let's
do that. So they chopped it up and they pretty
much just squashed it on. They like, look, it's all good,
bam bam. I even got them to name their favorite
North Carolina artists, like so like I said, uh, break
Baby saying he is, ah, Jim, I think Track, he said,
(15:04):
Jim Jim K he said, uh, get Richz A a
few other people. But basically I just tried to make
it come to an even a chords on the live
But even then, like, of course I know how to
push the envelope for what I need to do, but
the North Carolina was still kind of like, ah, there
are some corny shit. They're some lame shit, like niggas
(15:25):
pushing peace to where one of the academic's people shout
out my board. While at intern he hit me up
and he was like riding for me harder than I
was gonna ride. Like he's trying to go on some
fighting and I'm like, bro, hell, no, niggas fight by yourself.
I ain't gonna lie if I'm not fighting his battle.
I wanted, Yeah, I want them niggas. I'm definite one
niggas ain't like, oh, let me send a crash out. No, nigga,
(15:46):
if I ain't saying shit, you don't need to be
saying shit.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Leave it alone.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Like these are two niggas that's got a big affiliation
of some Internet followers like, nah, I'm a foster child.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I'll be by myself. I ain't got Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I mean, then if nobody family got harmed, you know
what I'm saying, nobody took nobody wives or nothing like that.
How is pushing peace lame in the first place? Like
how is that narrative even happening in North Carolina and
a lot of other places too.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Because North Carolina it's so much of a consumer state
with the wrong energy that they want to be a Memphis,
they want to be a Florida, they want to be
a Texas, They want to be a Chicago. They want
to be one of these places where really go down.
And it's like, no, you don't, because once you see
(16:34):
the few rappers that's gonna blow out here in the
midst of that ain't gonna equal up to all the drama.
Your grandma got to live with your uncles, your aunts,
got to live with your little cousin.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That got to go back forth to these schools.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
And just because he got dreaded some other nigga influenced
by these guys trying to rob with him, it ain't
worth it.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
What if niggas want to be followers like cool, I
like it because with me.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Being like the Nick Cannon type of guy, I eat
everything up. I get the whole state, Like I literally
get the whole state to myself. So I love that
it's so many tough guys, cause like, let me come
in and let me put my smile on and Highest
Point podcast. You know what I'm saying. I'm here just
to wrap the story up. Academics peep stout for me.
(17:18):
We did an interview on twitch or discord Discord Academics.
Seeing it, he comment on and he reposted on one
of his blogs and stuff. So once he got his
side of the story, some of the few other bloggers
they start like spreading the word. But yeah, shout out
(17:38):
my boy cliff World, because he corrected it for me.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
He put one of the craziest stories out.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
He said, like brick Baby, North Carolina, crypt Muscles something
like that.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Like he put the crazy story out.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
But then when I hit him up and I got
my fans to kind of like hit him up, he
was like, all right, I see what you're saying. Like
he heard my side of the story, so he put
another spin on, like all right, let me add another
video where I tell him his side.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So shot my boy cliff World TV.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
But yeah, a few few of the bloggers they came together,
including academics, and they let me get my side of
the store y'all. Even if it was just him playing
on his platform and saying a few words. Yeah, it
was enough that I got to clear the airways so
I can.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Move around North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I'm gonna do it anyway, but at least I can
move with on like I to clean my face card up.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
For the most part, right, Like, let niggas know your
true intentions, Like if you want involved, you want involved
in none of the drama like you out here trying
to conduct business. You know what I'm saying. It's like
and thinking about the big picture. If anything, people need
to tune in and listen to this message, Like, Yo,
how you gonna get to the money if you chasing niggas?
You know what I'm saying, Like, you got to chase the.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Money fam literally no other way. It's no other way
around it. And you got to make sure and the
mission before you. I feel like this, before you even
chase the money, you got to know what direction am
I headed on this chase right? Like I need to
know so at the fact up I'm knowing I'm trying
to open the market up for more artists and more people.
(19:08):
Then I need to make sure well my face card
I got more artists, he'll feel like it's safe and
all that younger age like they wasn't even coming for
me now.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
They all had their own situation.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
But if I could tie myself to the situation, like
just make it more of a flood for when they
hear like a safety net for their here with anything,
it could be man our rental just got a flat
you no call Big Carolina.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
He know what to do. Now we want a.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Nice hotel right fast called Big Carolina. We winke up
with some some some.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Studios, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Yeah, studios all around here.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Oh god, got podcasts, got rapped studios, We got everything
in this.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Month like snapper fingers. You know how it works. So
it was more on a court like that.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
But if y'all want me to go inside here, like
we done tried all of that, we done have to
quote unquote people that then bully in North Carolina and whatever,
and it don't work because when they did it, and
that's what y'all wanted, y'all looked down on them too, exactly,
y'all threw them out the way too.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I we don't want that no more.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Everybody came in the way that y'all want them to do,
they get looked past.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So it's like, I'm not even about to listen to y'all.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Those same people that are putting in stories like Okay,
this is a cornball, he's pushing peace. If you became
a crash out dummy did something crazy, they gonna be
the same one calling you dumb for doing it. You
know what I'm saying that's literally how it's gonna go.
That's why we can't pay no attention to no foolishness
like that, because niggas that's behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
They just watchers.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
You know what I'm saying, Like I'm gonna say something honest.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I know that because the fact I done did that before,
that's I done did it. This is the reason I
felt like on some on some funny shall said, but
like j Cole, like the Jesus Christ in North Carolina,
like the JC.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Shit makes sense because.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
When he was going netted with them boys, he popped out,
fuck y'all.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
He like, m you know what? All right?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Like they never said Jesus was perfect. So he came
in he like, you know what, I'm gonna get up
out of it. This ain't even me let me stay
out the way.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
And I'm like, what the fuck, nigga, Like you're supposed
to put Nor Carolina on the mat? What the fuck
this nigga?
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Man, let me do it.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Let me get in a student.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Right then, when I see how everything transpire, I'm like okay,
because then before his situation even ended, while I'm looking
at him like you need to fish that now I
got my brick baby situation going on when I'm doing
the literal same thing as two niggas. They got problems
and I'm basically caught up in the midst and it's
like I'm trying to solidify this shit, and the difference
between them is none of Like I ain't rich, them
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boys got bred right, but we are touchable guys, like
very intangible.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Kench Lamar Jacob drake Man no.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Kencha Lamrnas did his show in Toronto. He had a
twenty five police car escort.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Like you know what I'm saying, They get in and
out and he didn't even sleep in Toronto.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
He flew to New York and flew right back to
his next show.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
We can't do that.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
You've just seen me put up in a fishbowl, you
know what I'm saying, Like it's over with, So me
knowing that, like that's why I really be on a
note where like nah, I'm gonna put my face card
online to make sure she is done like the right way,
like the longevity. But yeah, yeah, academics definitely looked out
for me in that note though. He helped me correct myself.
He helped me like learn and then it showed me
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in the meantime, like every battle ain't worth standing up for,
Like every battle ain't worth it.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
So it wasn't even you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Shout out Academics, shout out to the chat. Nothing bigger
than the chat.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, for sure, man, we definitely rocked with Academics. I
actually tune into a lot of stuff he do. It
helps me, Like I'm like, I'll be watching what he's doing,
kind of incorporate certain things, learning from it, and I wassay, like, okay,
I ain't doing that shit.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
It's like, look, look, while lay my boy.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
But when I say he died head head first and
some smoke, yeah he will. He died head first like
my bad, not the while later intern My bad for
y'all don't know, not the while lay the rapper while
they intern one of my academics boys, Like he died
head first into some North Carolina smoke with that DJ
Academics energy. While I had to be like, hey, bro, Academics,
(23:18):
stay in the house. He don't pop that and be outside, bro,
like look stay out the missed bro and he's my boy.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
But he definitely like had my back. But some of
that stuff and.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
You had his back by telling him that, yeah, definitely,
like because I wouldn't do that. But the way how
I see, like academics move, it's a whole community, like
it's an.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Energy, Like we all moved like this right.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Now, even talking about those Internet beasts. I saw you
and j T was going at it for a little
bit too, But I also saw you come out and
kind of see say that situation was handled, Like how
did that start up?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
And how do y'all get to a resolve?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Uh kind of what I'm just for y'all know JT
from City Girls, And she.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Said, yeah, first shout out, JT shot the Uzie shot Generation,
now shot Q see the label, shout out the whole nine.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Basically, JT came to North Carolina and on her behalf,
you know what I'm saying, I ain't trying to sell it,
like to make mind whatever. On her behalf, she won't
having a good time like in general, like she just
wanted a good mood, one in a good headspace. But
she came and she did like very bad jobs at
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her shows. And then one of the instance, one of
my homeboys, top it, shout out, top it, top of ninety.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Four, She like kind of.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Loki mustus camera down like on some in the show,
and she won't try to let nobody like you know video.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
She was really like pressing it.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
She was barely recording, Like as an artist, I get it,
like some days it's not worth it. But when that
bag dropped, you know how this go. You know what
I'm saying, It's back to business, you know. I At
the same time, I understand to a certain thing the
female as aspect, but you still got to come correct.
(25:08):
Like so in the midst of the fans kind of
just going on Twitter and social media saying how they
felt about the show, she kind of get the North
Carolina can't dress y'all tacky, something along lines of the
club tackier, y'all can't dress ba Ben.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
So it was like she didn't say Kate dress.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
She said something like, uh so I casted y'all some
fashion DV like like like trying to be so kept
with like really clowning. And then what made me mad
was I seen North Carolina people like, yeah, she is
telling the truth like somebody, And the thing is, I'm
gonna be all the way honest. I was fresh off
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to wake up when I seen it. That's when I'm unfiltered.
And now I kind of like, let me get me
an hour before I get on my phone. I see
why people say that now, like and y'all some of
the older folks. I'm gonna say this, y'all need to
start and be known reasons. Why stop just trying to
have them lyon keen moment you say some shit and
(26:06):
disappear and I gotta figure it out later on, No,
let us know what were running into because this could
have saved me some time.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
But in the midst of this incident, it is all like,
how can I explain this shit?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Like yeah, like all right, just to sum it up,
she go do that, And I see how people acting online,
so I take it in my hands, like, yo, I
don't like this fresh off the wake up. I address it,
and I'm going there like I'm joking on it. I'm
like I'm getting it to it. I'm giving a little
oozy like I'm getting it to him. Like in the midst,
(26:41):
I say, like North Carolina too, like y'all whack y'all
laying for this Cuz y'all, let these people come here,
pay this money and keep doing this, Like and disrespect you,
and yeah, like no, I should not be the only
person saying this. And the thing is, they cloud don't
mean nothing. I wish it was at least fifty other people.
We're doing this right now so we can start shutting
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people ward off around here. But when it's just me
talking honestly what y'all doing, y'all wait for them to
respond back. Some of them, y'all wait to respond back,
so y'all can try to jump on they side and
try to like boosh your stuff, because you know they
ain't gonna rock with you for real. You know they
ain't gonna be here forever. Like it don't matter who
you are, you ain't kicking it right.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
You get wicked.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
So you know theys ain't just coming to hang out.
So once they get their little players called, you're gonna
try to get your old you know what I'm saying,
get your shaving off the points. So once I just
seen how it was laying out, I just won't feeling it.
But she, uh, after I put the post up, I
was going in on her ooz and all of that,
and just joking. I ain't say much. I just joked
on the one time, but uh, probably like eleven minutes
(27:48):
go by, it's probably got like twenty thousand views, Like
it's going up. Yeah, So about the fourteen to fifteen minutes,
she didn't DM me, and I you know what I'm saying,
Handley thing was she like, you need to be worried
about getting booked in your state.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
And I'm like, if that's a nice one, but if you.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Know who I am, Like right, she won't tap in.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, Like, if you know who I am and I ain't,
that's like that's not even the case. But I told
her on a response while I'm like literally verbatimly that
that's the word of verbatim ly verbatimly.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I told her that.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
But then I was like, Yo, you signed to the
last label to do artists development to where I know
they teach you how to talk, wal't do interviews, performing
all of this, So they wouldn't send you to the
same area that helped make they artists one of the
biggest consumer states in North Carolina not but in USA.
(28:48):
They wouldn't send you here to note for you to
play these type of games, for you to talk crazy
about eleven million people.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
They wouldn't send you here to do that.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
So with knowing that you know you wrong and I
ain't like me being a man and understanding how these
females work. She I didn't get a all right, my bad,
but it was like but still though it was on
the lines of like but still though like let me
like like the butt still don't let me. Okay, I
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acknowledge you what you saying, but still so it's like
you still got your point and she was like, yo,
you ain't had to come at me like that. And
then the thing is, by this time period, i'd have
took a shower out of smoked the run. Like my mindset,
I'm off there, fresh off to wake up, don't give more,
like you know, you gotta take that time to shake
it off, like once my second training of conscious thinking
(29:43):
kick there. I'm like, you know what, I really didn't care,
Like I don't care because if y'all want to get
teased and bully that y'all, I'm doing what I was
supposed to do. So well, I thought about it and
she said that, she was like, you didn't have something.
You know what, you're right, So I apologize. I was like,
you know what, you're right. I didn't have.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
To do that.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
But like she also didn't have to disrespect excuse me,
she also didn't have to disrespect Carolina the way she did.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
She right, But I feel like that I feel like
that area between both of those is more people should
have stand up. M I feel like that's what I
feel like need to be going on because what I
see in these other states. I could be on Facebook
right now and they could say Dallas versus Houston, and
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they gonna go crazy. But the moment somebody from anywhere
else in other state coming side there, both of those
are gonna get on them and then go.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
You know what I'm saying, right right.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
They're gonna be standing up for each other as a
whole or like a collective. A lot of times it
seemed like Carolina don't seem as a collective compared to
like a Houston, like they ride for each other. Carolina
should be riding for each other too.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I feel like it's just the fact that we ain't
had no consistent relay of like the like just the linelight.
We just ain't had no consistent relay for us to
get used to it, to understand. Like in Atlanta, you
will literally see a nigga with a gold record walking
down the street broke and that's just Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
They understand the business of it.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
So down here, it's like we so far behind because
we ain't even had the normal traffic for artists to
get on, fall off or whatever they.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Want to call it.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Like I'm looking at people talking about oh, North Carolina people,
they kind of like the baby, won't rock with the baby,
won't listen to the baby, or he'd have fell off.
They ain't got like twenty plus million monthly listeners like
twenty I said, man, somebody, you know what I'm saying.
Somebody listened to them, But a lot of people listen
to the baby, and he been going in I rock
(31:44):
with him. But I definitely agree with you that our
people need to stay It don't even matter even if
you feel like someone fell off. The fact that they're
from Carolina, that should be enough for the strength for
you to stay behind them, because if we stay behind them,
it's gonna give more our availability for something else to
come up from the city because we already developed the movement.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
We haven't developed that consistent movement yet, you know what
I'm saying, And that's what we gotta get your routine.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Like it's like we having a little fire sparks, but
we ain't had nothing to burn, so we can see
all right where we at with the smoke settle.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Okay, let's like this bitch again.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
We be having little flames, going to know, but now
it's like we really just need so that peak and
I feel I got to really try to play a
part of it. That's why I say on the media side,
I ain't got much to say speaking on nobody famous,
no more, none of that. People be tagging me in
a few artists like Rob fo I has said sometimes
(32:40):
I feel like I'm from North Carolina something along lines
of it that people got to tagging me, and I'm like,
hell no, y'all, don't tag me and nothing else because
every time I speak up, y'all get on my ass.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
It's crazy to say.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Rob for or now he come in and ship right
in front of the mayor office in Raleigh. I ain't
got nothing to say about it. Hey, do your thing, bro,
have fun working to North.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Carolina because somehow somebody gonna twist it and come at
you when you try to step up for Carolina.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
That's kind of how you feel.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
And I got to live here to deal with the
chaos after the fact, so like, I ain't finna mess
up my home trying to make it cool for some strangers,
trying to check some strangers. Y'all cool with strangers coming
in and disrespecting y'all house, all right, cool with me,
I under stand in my room with the dope closes.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I'll let y'all have it, Like, yeah, I feel you,
like when that happened to somebody enough, it's gonna make
you want to pull off from trying to step into
almost feel like you're the only one that's trying to
put on for your state, you know what I'm saying,
at least at least in that manner because and then
it's the fact that like I feel like that, because
in the midst of this, I understand me having a.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Quote unquote cloud, but it's no way.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I'm the only person saying this, only person that pin
getting views on it. I study the Internet, I study
North Carolina. So I'm looking like, don't nobody else feel
like this? And Nigga's like, no, Nigga, Now, also, are
you a few people? I take that back, it's some people.
I done went into some hoods. I was in Durham
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and I was in fuck and what's the name of that?
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I was out there with five five CITs zoo get
resiling in they air and it was treacherous. And some
of the guys like, yo, we like how you handle
that situation, brick baby and them, and I had to think, like,
oh shit, do you know who you're at right now?
If they didn't like it, you wouldn't make it out
of here. So some people that do, but a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, Now, a lot of times we as human nature,
we see the negative more than we see the positive.
Are you sure it's just not like a perspective twist
that the negativity always sounds louder than the positive, and
that can be maybe pushing you away from something that
you generally have a passion for and that's standing up
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for where you're from.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I felt like that. I felt like that for a moment.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I'm like, nah, maybe I'm just tripping you know what
I'm saying. But then it started being certain like content
creators of bloggers that wanted to have their narrative on it,
when it's like a lot of y'all have been inside
my DM trying to give me free services and offers
and all this other stuff to get y'all smoking right,
(35:25):
if we're gonna keep it honest. So the fact that
it is like I see what's going on right now,
it's kind of like.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
You wait.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
It's kind of like when you waiting for somebody to
come inside the town to knock out.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
The big bully.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Like we've been waiting for that new guy to come here.
We got somebody for you. We never like him when
it's like, bro, I'm not even a bully like y'all y'all.
I can't explain it.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
It was just that's the that's the narrative that was
trying to be painted. But it only went but so far,
because like I said, I just go over and Beyonce.
I was trying to work the fact like nah this,
I'm gonna stand up for what's right and what I
believe in. So once the narrator got pushed wrong, I'm
a person I don't give fuck what you say.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I will go to a grave about a lie.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I'll be in a lawsuit and take all this shit
to hell because I'm up there talk when they ain't
supposed to know. That bitch a lie, that nigga a lie,
that ain't happen, Like I don't give a fuck what
you call it, like, don't lie, don't put me in
no twist. So that's how I dress it. So I
start seeing like I definitely had supporters. That was like
in my corner, I definitely had supporters.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It was a lot of people like my girl the
real streets, shout the streets.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Because she gave me a good interview, like heard said
my perspective of it, But it's a lot of people
where they were just trying to see how can they
get their rocks offt in the midst of this, And
it's like, it's easier for me to try to go
against him because they know the stript they see it
every day.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
It's easier to try to be.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Like, okay, let me be able to be like nick
and neck with him because I'm in ods with him.
Then to say, let me quote unquote bow down to
him because I need his help, when a lot of
them have been those people that bowed down. If you
want to call it the need of my help, then
they're like, you know what, I have my expectations a
little too high for him.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It ain't go the way I thought.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
If I ever get the moment to try to like
slim them out to get it back.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I'm gonna try to move on that moment.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
So I started seeing that, yeah, come out, So I'm like, ah, okay.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Yeah, all those are indications of you doing something right.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
It comes with the game, you know what I'm saying.
The more and more you grow your your brand, the
more and more you're gonna see those mixed feelings and
people salivating to get to your position. They're gonna try
to come at it because like even like when I'm
here you talking about like you say, maybe pull back
from doing that. It's gonna be someone that gonna try
(37:51):
to rebrand themselves as the real Carolina. Like Yo, I
heard him saying he not doing that no more, Like Yo,
I do this.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
I want them to know, I'm saying, I literally want
them to. I want them to take that lane. Because
in the midst of this, like I said, I'm thirty.
It helped me find out what I am as a man.
I'm not finna be around here like y'all nigga's rich.
I'm not like And it was big podcasts like brick
Baby offered me to come to No Jumper.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
But the whole time. I'm glad I.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Didn't do none of this, because who's to say I
wouldn't be inside his rico case just because Internet blaws
already saying, oh, this is this cryptic I'm.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Never like, oh both of them on recocases, right.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
That's why I'm I think so. I'm pretty sure I
think so, Like I probably need to research. I think
SO and Younger they got something going on, some type shit.
But like that's if I would have leaned on any
anybody's side in the midst of this, I could have
easily been tied up in the midst of So it's
like me pushing peace kind of kept me out the
way when I did want to go to No Jumper,
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But I also knew something that is in the back
of me, like bruh, it ain't safe and taking this
move for your career, and everybody in North Carolina saying
you should go. A lot of people telling me, and
that's the supportive side, like it won't like no negative.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
A lot of people like bro.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Use the opportunity to make a chance to make a change.
But I'm just doing like I don't know because I
don't want this perspective to be passed just for this
day to go by. That perspective been passed. So that's
scene I would have tried to make that jump. So's
it's it's a lot of stuff where I learned. Okay,
I'd rather these young guys do their thing, like shout
out my boy the showrocker.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
He be going crazy, like doing the hood laws.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I still do them sometimes to a certain extent, but
he got more of a raw say what the fuck
I want to say?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Style, like Ox.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Rolled through hill where the hoes be at, Like you
can hear a young guy, I ain't with all that.
I'm asking, like how the gentrification around here hurt you
and your people?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Like in the midst of you living.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
In this war and stuff going on, what are you
doing to like help your mental or what do you
do that you feel like help your meals?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Like I feel like it just I don't.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Take it as nobody did nothing wrong. I feel like
a lot of the times I just heard somebody say
something to the other they shot my boy ness Marley. He said,
if you ain't out the way, you in somebody's way.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
So the fact of me inserting myself in a lot
of these situations, yeah, A lot of people ain't speak up.
I just put myself in somebody's way. So now it
might be somebody North Carolina don't like me, or it
might be this famous person to where they can spend
some money. And now somebody can try to touch me
for a easy bad you know what I'm saying. It's
crazy shit like God for me, but you know, like
(40:38):
it just made me think the fact of being grown.
Now you got to think lie for their first money
survival nicks, like it's this situation, something's gonna kill me
it could it possibly get me in their horns reach?
Speaker 2 (40:52):
All right?
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Now what's the money looking like in this situation?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
So it just right?
Speaker 4 (40:56):
And that ain't pussy thinking like that.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
That's smart, Like you know what, I'm all the ones
that made it.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
They was thinking like that big picture wise.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
You know what I'm saying, I'm seeing Jeez popping up
on the screen and that's crazy. Like he was thinking
big picture wise, like getting up out of that situation,
like not worrying about somebody trying to call him puss it.
Oh he puts it. He pushed in beasts. He trying
to avoid these type of situations. He's not streaked, No, more. Nah,
that's not the end goal to be screaked. Who wanted
to be retire in the streets. Okay, I'm seventy five.
(41:26):
Now I'm dead and I died, agangster. You think that's
something to be proud of? Like do you really think
that's something to be proud of? Like we got to
really grow up and open our minds.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Man, Man, I'd be seeing stuff now, Like the older
I get, the more I don't sleep.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I have work to do.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Because I drove past a store in my city and
I see niggas out there comfortable, chilling, and I said,
fuck no.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
These guys older than me, Like.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
No, yes, Like if that's your reality, your life, cool,
But how I'm looking at it, that's horrible to me.
I don't want to be there. Some people's like I
don't even want the pressures of trying to do this stuff?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
You do? They looking at me like I don't see
how you do that? You know what I'm saying, But
it just let me know like, nah, I want bigger,
Like I don't know more than that, like.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Per And then something I heard consistent with all of
these stories, man, it seemed like you're not afraid to
have some self reflection after making an impulsive decision, like
when you wake up, you.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Don't mind self reflected.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
And that's part of growing up too, because a lot
of times people these days or also in the youth. Hell,
it's even a lot of grown folks, grown grown still
they don't self reflect.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Athlete, and then.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Even if you know they even if they know they're wrong,
they still don't want to admit it.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
You know what I'm saying, Like, how do you get there?
And why you think that's important?
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Subscribe now for part two parts more than the part.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
It's a lifestyle like style.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Style
And it was big podcasts like brick Baby offered me
to come to No Jumper. But the whole time, I'm
glad I didn't do none of this because who's to
say I wouldn't be inside his rico case.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let him know.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
You can't put no pressure on No State for some
outside drama because both y'all boys don't live here.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So if y'all spill all this.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Blood here our market, our people, our music scene, our
police departments, our house and authorities, we got to get
this stuff right. We got to live amongst y'all war
North Carolina. It's so much of a consumer state with
the wrong energy that they want to be a Memphis,
they want to be a Chicago. They want to be
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one of these places where really go down there. And
it's like, no, you don't because once you see the
few rappers that's gonna blow out here in the midst
of that ain't gonna equal up to all the drama.
Your grandma got to live with your uncles, your aunt's
got to live with your little cousin.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It ain't worth it.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Nah, that's not the end goal to be street who
wanted to be retire in the streets.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Okay, I'm seventy five.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Now I'm dead and I died against You think that's
something to be proud of.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
More than the part that's a lifestyle styles.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yo yo yo, Welcome to the Highest Point Podcast. This
is a show for everyone who's willing to put in
the label to be greater, to reach the highest point.
And I talk about the man who put into work.
We got none other than Big Carolina two five too.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
You seen him putting on for the state and now
he don't branch his audience fucking country wide. So you know,
I'm so glad to have you on the show. Fan
appreciate that, you know what I'm saying. Like, he's a
return guest, So we're getting straight to the ships today too,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
So, but how you been, man, let's talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
That first good you know, just handling life just hit
thirty man, So you know it's new.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's uh, it got his days.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You know what we feel like, I don't try to
let the pressure of reality tell what it's supposed to
be doing. But then I still got to look at
how blessed I am. Where it's like, bro, you really
in the groove.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
You're supposed to be. It like nigga, don't overthink nothing,
just what you do.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So like you're out here trying to conduct business, you
know what I'm saying, It's like thinking about the big picture.
People need to tune in and listen to this message. Yeah,
and that's the thing, man, when you hit that thirty threshold, Man,
that's like that sweet spot to keep it real, Like
when you're in your twenties, you're still trying to figure
it out. When you cross thirty, it's like, yo, this
is the next phase. It's like, this is these years
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are going to determine the rest of my life, you
know what I'm saying. So thinking about that, what is
your goal to go through this next decade?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Starting at thirty, The.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
First thing that I realized is like on a business note,
that it's time for me now to find a business
where I could just run it instead of happening to
be the face card and like physically there, like I'm
glad that I did what I did for so long
over the time perire, because it built a landscape to
(02:58):
like you said now that you're saying and it's like damn,
he kind of right, like he is right where with
me being thirty. I'm glad I used my teenage in
my twenties to really lay this blueprint out so now
I could think in the business mindset. So now I
just been in the path of trying to learn what
can I do on a business mindset. I know I
want to rock with the cars because I know some
(03:19):
little something about cars, So it's got to be the
same way how I apply my internet stuff and make money.
It's like it got to be something that you actually
like or something that you got some time investor or
it's gonna be a job point. So I was thinking
about doing the cars. I still get tied into my
road with the promotion. Then on the flip side, it's
kind of like I think I want to dip it
(03:42):
some more like the four X and like the trading
type stuff. So I'm really trying to figure out who
am I outside of being this artist. Like I've been
doing this since I was like fourteen. Wow, so I
like literally more than half my life. So now it's like, okay, bro,
you've grown now. And then the fact like trying like
not having no kids and being single and like flourishing
(04:04):
to it somewhere. It's like, Bro, you got an open
canvas to figure out who you want to be. Now
it really is trying to find out who I am
as a man and how I want to project his
next You know what I'm saying, structure of my life.
Like you said, I feel like the thirties on beyond.
It's like shit's supposed to matter for real something.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, for sure, it's gonna be a lot of fun,
but like this is one Like yo, this is gonna
be a big impact.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Like I ain't doing shit just for fun all the time,
no more.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
What I'm saying, I want to enjoy my life, but
like yo, it has some meaning behind it, you know
what I'm saying, Like for real. But you know, we
talk about your next steps, but let's talk about the
shit leading up to this.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Let's let's get straight into some of the ships.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Because I've been seeing you online kind of going crazy,
and I wanted to get some insights on what the
hell been going on, you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I'm seeing academics reacting to some shit going on with you,
brick baby, And can you.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Give us a little bit of insight what happened there?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Uh. First, God damn, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
You know what I'm saying, everybody in that penitential situation, man,
uh till you hold your head up, prayers out to
your prayers out to the ones impacted. Uh shot academic,
shout out the younger age, shout the brit baby. You
know what I'm saying for all. Then they gave me
this opportunity. So what happened was, uh, in the midst
(05:27):
of the Julio folio and younger day's situation, in the
midst of day vibe, and they whatever you want to
call it, they wore. After Julio Fulio passed away, brick
Baby said some on line kind of to the I
don't know exactly, I don't want to repeat exactly, but
(05:48):
content lines are like, well, for what I've been hearing,
what I've seen online, Julio Fulio boys been handling their
business back on younger age boys. So for what it's
been said somewhere, I don't know because I don't live there,
but they said like it ain't true. So young in
Ace homeboys and young Ace had something to say about it, like, man,
that ain't any case. So the on line back and
(06:08):
forth started then so a response came in. Brick Baby
was like kind of saying, like, yo, man, I can
make sure you can't come here there, North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Here there.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So once he said North Carolina, I spoke up Younger
Ace just so happened to be coming to North Carolina
the exact same time period he said this. Like when
he said this, Bro was probably like already in the state.
Like I think it's video proof he was here already,
Like he was already here, cool and kicking it. So
I'm kind of saying, like Brick I'm like, yo, I'm
Big Carolina. So Bro, y'all got some negative tension going,
(06:42):
don't bring that down here. And what people don't know
is shout out to my boy DJ Hussein because he
can vouch for this. He had me lined up to
go to the show with Younger Ace and Fedville the
night that him and brick Baby got into it. So
once that's spilled out and I'm seeing people from the
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city say certain stuff. I'm seeing people in North Carolina
say certain stuff to brit Baby and Youngest like and
they little stories comment stuff. It's like, Bro, as a
business man, it ain't even safe for me to come
out here and like you said, it was like, Yo,
I'm at a point now where God makes some sense.
I won't like being paid for I was just pulling
up to get the content, but I will always turn
down free content for my safe the ungle fuck who
(07:25):
it is.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So in the midst of that, I'm like, see that
the bullshit already spread through the state.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
So that's why I spoke up on it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Like so in the midst of that brit Baby catch
when my fans they tagging hitting them up, the video
going viral like it's going crazy, so hit me up
and he like, Yo, we chop it up.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Get on the phone.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
He basically tell me, like yo, And I ain't never
I kind of told this side or I ain't never
really tell this side of it before, like he basic.
He basically like, Yo, I get where you're coming from.
I respect it, and you ain't try to come on
old tough guy stuff. You were just speaking up for
the whole and I could have came correct. I could
(08:04):
have said something. I could have said spoke like specifically
who I was talking to, but I was talking in
it to a specific group of people to where I
didn't have to say all of that because they knew
who they was talking to, right, So when I said that, like, yeah,
I might have said the state, but the people there
knew what was going on that I need to talk
(08:25):
to it, you know what I'm saying, So from them,
like you know, then I said someone to post where
I'm like, y'all got the biggest podcast in the world.
I don't see y'all like you doing this, Like if
you're saying that, say it's a North Carolina artists, like
you don't know the North Carolina artists.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So he corrected me on that too.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So he named clap Curry from Greenville, North Carolina. He
was like, bro, I rocked with him, I wrote with
his music, and me being me, I hung up and
called Clapp like, man, let me see what you're talking about,
Like yeah with Brick like yeah, yeah, like yeah he
do the music shit, Like yeah, he been trying to
like name a superstar. Oh he ain't got n I'm
(09:05):
a superstar, J my bad superstar, ta my bad. Bro,
he didn't got my dem said niggas take superstar ta he.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Shot him out. He shot got named homi. Oh. So
all these guys like two five two guys.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So shouting them out like on the show and just
talking on the phone like these North Carolina artists I know,
so like I do know no Carolina artists.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So from there we chopped it up and I.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Get online in the same way how I came vocal
coming at him. I can't vocal my response and my apology.
So I was like, you know, I chopped it up
with Brick. We got it all settled, like we're just
trying to make sure it's stay peace around here in
the state. Like get that ship died down. Now, it
was a cool amount of people like, yeah, they fucked
with it. Well, it's a nice amount like, oh that's
(09:47):
some whole ship. That ain't no that ain't no street ship.
You know a lot of people don't say it under
your post, but they'll share it Today's.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Story and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
So I might got forty comments saying like that's the
right thing, but I probably got like ninety people in
my DM sending me the screenshots and niggas talking crazy,
and you know, niggas always gonna see you the.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Downfall or something.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, for sure, like when it's trying to spread some
bad news, but it's let me know, like, ah, that's
what like, and I'm seeing stuff myself.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I'm seeing people.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
It's like, ah shit, I've finally been waiting to catch
Big Carolina the week. This is my time, and then
I'm seeing all of this transpire out. So in the
midst of that, younger As can perform. That's when he
showing proved like damn Niggas said I can't come here
what So after the first time he said that Younger
Ace was already here. So when it was time for
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him to do his response, all right, I got another
show on North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Since Nigga saying I can't be here, watch I go
do my show? Did it? Show went crazy?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
He said that like Niggas said, I can't come to
Krolin Niggas' me fucko type shit. So then brit Baby
get on line with his response and he like yo,
which he didn't. He didn't technically lie, just how he
worded shit. It's how he worded it.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Well, he like yo.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And this we said on the phone, like I said,
like everything said we like a bro.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I never said like.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I was trying to do nothing to Younger Age like
it was never no problem you know what I'm saying.
I got people out there in North Carolina too, and
they knowing what's going on. They already know him what's
going on. So like and I don't want to like
say the politics, but he like, I got people out
there in North Carolina too, they know it's gonna They
seen you, they did all this and that.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
But that won't my intention. I ain't want no beef.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
But I had people out here. You could ask Big Carolina.
So once you say ask Big Carolina, as you just
said that, they think like, oh, Big Carolina is his
people out there. I already just days, probably a day
prior squash the situations like we cool. So now it's like, oh,
that's his people. So now the epitome of that on
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the internet shit is already one. Big Carolina ain't riding
with North Carolina. Like, he ain't do no ignorant stuff
and have us out here going crazy crashing out. For two,
he siding with Brick baby. So now it's this whole
spill going on to where I got to be like Brick, like,
I get what you did, but how you said it.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I ain't make it.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Right on my end because that's not really how it
is like it ain't like how you worded it. The
blows overnight started posting stuff like, uh, brick Babies North
Carolina Shooter brick Baby's uh whatever game.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Got you in the middle of it, like like one
of his hitters, or know some people that you can
get agreement like the.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Fact of the word play how he said a little post.
So from there, I took my post. I took him
in the video and I put my post explaining like
this is what he talking about. Like he let me know,
like yeah, he got people down here, but he definitely
let me know, like, Bro, I ain't even trying to
do that. He even said, like, Bro, that nigga hard
as fuck, and that nigga really don't play like them
(13:04):
young niggas don't play like he blatant like bur them
boys ain't. Yeah, like he said, like I ain't saying
I'm a back down, but I know them some boys
is like they they what they gonna play with. And
I say, if they put their time there, that's what
they're gonna do. So he was really bigging them up.
But he also was saying, like bro, it's just even
if I was wrong, like the same way, how I'm
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correcting stuff with you. I corrected with them, but it's
just content, like he like, really, like I'm getting paid
off of whatever. So that was his his spill on it,
like it's just content.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Whatever. They get mad and whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
If I'm wrong and they showed me I'm wrong, whatever,
I correct myself but whatever. But in the midst of that, uh,
the internet spewing my DEM's all.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
They going crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
So I get britt Baby and younger Ace Homeboary on
the Live together. So at first they going there, they
going to each other nets and stuff. So now it's time.
It's my time to intervene. So when the younger Ace
Homeboy gimk jimk, he jump on line. He like, yo,
what you own? Like you over there rock with brick Baby,
(14:06):
But I'm like, nah, bro, it ain't the point of
rocking with it.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Was like I'm letting him know.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You can't put no pressure on those state for some
outside drama because both of y'all boys don't live here.
So if y'all spill all this blood here our market,
our people, our music scene, our police departments, our house
and authorities, we got to get this stuff right. We
got to live amongst y'all war. So it's like I'm
a nigga literally get money in the midst of this.
(14:33):
So it's like I ain't even trying to be calling
me and it's to the point what if I called
somebody out there to the event and they get hit
or you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
So it's just a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I'm like, bro, I feel like, if it's possible to
be spared because the in and f internet beef, let's
do that. So they chopped it up and they pretty
much just squashed it on. They like, look, it's all good,
bam bam. I even got them to name their favorite
North Carolina artists, like so like I said, uh, break
Baby saying he is, ah, Jim, I think Track, he said,
(15:04):
Jim Jim K he said, uh, get Richz A a
few other people. But basically I just tried to make
it come to an even a chords on the live
But even then, like, of course I know how to
push the envelope for what I need to do, but
the North Carolina was still kind of like, ah, there
are some corny shit. They're some lame shit, like niggas
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pushing peace to where one of the academic's people shout
out my board. While at intern he hit me up
and he was like riding for me harder than I
was gonna ride. Like he's trying to go on some
fighting and I'm like, bro, hell, no, niggas fight by yourself.
I ain't gonna lie if I'm not fighting his battle.
I wanted, Yeah, I want them niggas. I'm definite one
niggas ain't like, oh, let me send a crash out. No, nigga,
(15:46):
if I ain't saying shit, you don't need to be
saying shit.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Leave it alone.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Like these are two niggas that's got a big affiliation
of some Internet followers like, nah, I'm a foster child.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I'll be by myself. I ain't got Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I mean, then if nobody family got harmed, you know
what I'm saying, nobody took nobody wives or nothing like that.
How is pushing peace lame in the first place? Like
how is that narrative even happening in North Carolina and
a lot of other places too.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Because North Carolina it's so much of a consumer state
with the wrong energy that they want to be a Memphis,
they want to be a Florida, they want to be
a Texas, They want to be a Chicago. They want
to be one of these places where really go down.
And it's like, no, you don't, because once you see
(16:34):
the few rappers that's gonna blow out here in the
midst of that ain't gonna equal up to all the drama.
Your grandma got to live with your uncles, your aunts,
got to live with your little cousin.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That got to go back forth to these schools.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
And just because he got dreaded some other nigga influenced
by these guys trying to rob with him, it ain't
worth it.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
What if niggas want to be followers like cool, I
like it because with me.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Being like the Nick Cannon type of guy, I eat
everything up. I get the whole state, Like I literally
get the whole state to myself. So I love that
it's so many tough guys, cause like, let me come
in and let me put my smile on and Highest
Point podcast. You know what I'm saying. I'm here just
to wrap the story up. Academics peep stout for me.
(17:18):
We did an interview on twitch or discord Discord Academics.
Seeing it, he comment on and he reposted on one
of his blogs and stuff. So once he got his
side of the story, some of the few other bloggers
they start like spreading the word. But yeah, shout out
(17:38):
my boy cliff World, because he corrected it for me.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
He put one of the craziest stories out.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
He said, like brick Baby, North Carolina, crypt Muscles something
like that.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Like he put the crazy story out.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
But then when I hit him up and I got
my fans to kind of like hit him up, he
was like, all right, I see what you're saying. Like
he heard my side of the story, so he put
another spin on, like all right, let me add another
video where I tell him his side.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So shot my boy cliff World TV.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
But yeah, a few few of the bloggers they came together,
including academics, and they let me get my side of
the store y'all. Even if it was just him playing
on his platform and saying a few words. Yeah, it
was enough that I got to clear the airways so
I can.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Move around North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I'm gonna do it anyway, but at least I can
move with on like I to clean my face card up.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
For the most part, right, Like, let niggas know your
true intentions, Like if you want involved, you want involved
in none of the drama like you out here trying
to conduct business. You know what I'm saying. It's like
and thinking about the big picture. If anything, people need
to tune in and listen to this message, Like, Yo,
how you gonna get to the money if you chasing niggas?
You know what I'm saying, Like, you got to chase the.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Money fam literally no other way. It's no other way
around it. And you got to make sure and the
mission before you. I feel like this, before you even
chase the money, you got to know what direction am
I headed on this chase right? Like I need to
know so at the fact up I'm knowing I'm trying
to open the market up for more artists and more people.
(19:08):
Then I need to make sure well my face card
I got more artists, he'll feel like it's safe and
all that younger age like they wasn't even coming for
me now.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
They all had their own situation.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
But if I could tie myself to the situation, like
just make it more of a flood for when they
hear like a safety net for their here with anything,
it could be man our rental just got a flat
you no call Big Carolina.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
He know what to do. Now we want a.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Nice hotel right fast called Big Carolina. We winke up
with some some some.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Studios, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Yeah, studios all around here.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Oh god, got podcasts, got rapped studios, We got everything
in this.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Month like snapper fingers. You know how it works. So
it was more on a court like that.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
But if y'all want me to go inside here, like
we done tried all of that, we done have to
quote unquote people that then bully in North Carolina and whatever,
and it don't work because when they did it, and
that's what y'all wanted, y'all looked down on them too, exactly,
y'all threw them out the way too.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I we don't want that no more.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Everybody came in the way that y'all want them to do,
they get looked past.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So it's like, I'm not even about to listen to y'all.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Those same people that are putting in stories like Okay,
this is a cornball, he's pushing peace. If you became
a crash out dummy did something crazy, they gonna be
the same one calling you dumb for doing it. You
know what I'm saying that's literally how it's gonna go.
That's why we can't pay no attention to no foolishness
like that, because niggas that's behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
They just watchers.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
You know what I'm saying, Like I'm gonna say something honest.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I know that because the fact I done did that before,
that's I done did it. This is the reason I
felt like on some on some funny shall said, but
like j Cole, like the Jesus Christ in North Carolina,
like the JC.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Shit makes sense because.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
When he was going netted with them boys, he popped out,
fuck y'all.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
He like, m you know what? All right?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Like they never said Jesus was perfect. So he came
in he like, you know what, I'm gonna get up
out of it. This ain't even me let me stay
out the way.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
And I'm like, what the fuck, nigga, Like you're supposed
to put Nor Carolina on the mat? What the fuck
this nigga?
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Man, let me do it.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Let me get in a student.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Right then, when I see how everything transpire, I'm like okay,
because then before his situation even ended, while I'm looking
at him like you need to fish that now I
got my brick baby situation going on when I'm doing
the literal same thing as two niggas. They got problems
and I'm basically caught up in the midst and it's
like I'm trying to solidify this shit, and the difference
between them is none of Like I ain't rich, them
(21:42):
boys got bred right, but we are touchable guys, like
very intangible.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Kench Lamar Jacob drake Man no.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Kencha Lamrnas did his show in Toronto. He had a
twenty five police car escort.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Like you know what I'm saying, They get in and
out and he didn't even sleep in Toronto.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
He flew to New York and flew right back to
his next show.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
We can't do that.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
You've just seen me put up in a fishbowl, you
know what I'm saying, Like it's over with, So me
knowing that, like that's why I really be on a
note where like nah, I'm gonna put my face card
online to make sure she is done like the right way,
like the longevity. But yeah, yeah, academics definitely looked out
for me in that note though. He helped me correct myself.
He helped me like learn and then it showed me
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in the meantime, like every battle ain't worth standing up for,
Like every battle ain't worth it.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
So it wasn't even you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Shout out Academics, shout out to the chat. Nothing bigger
than the chat.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, for sure, man, we definitely rocked with Academics. I
actually tune into a lot of stuff he do. It
helps me, Like I'm like, I'll be watching what he's doing,
kind of incorporate certain things, learning from it, and I wassay, like, okay,
I ain't doing that shit.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
It's like, look, look, while lay my boy.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
But when I say he died head head first and
some smoke, yeah he will. He died head first like
my bad, not the while later intern My bad for
y'all don't know, not the while lay the rapper while
they intern one of my academics boys, Like he died
head first into some North Carolina smoke with that DJ
Academics energy. While I had to be like, hey, bro, Academics,
(23:18):
stay in the house. He don't pop that and be outside, bro,
like look stay out the missed bro and he's my boy.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
But he definitely like had my back. But some of
that stuff and.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
You had his back by telling him that, yeah, definitely,
like because I wouldn't do that. But the way how
I see, like academics move, it's a whole community, like
it's an.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Energy, Like we all moved like this right.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Now, even talking about those Internet beasts. I saw you
and j T was going at it for a little
bit too, But I also saw you come out and
kind of see say that situation was handled, Like how
did that start up?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
And how do y'all get to a resolve?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Uh kind of what I'm just for y'all know JT
from City Girls, And she.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Said, yeah, first shout out, JT shot the Uzie shot Generation,
now shot Q see the label, shout out the whole nine.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Basically, JT came to North Carolina and on her behalf,
you know what I'm saying, I ain't trying to sell it,
like to make mind whatever. On her behalf, she won't
having a good time like in general, like she just
wanted a good mood, one in a good headspace. But
she came and she did like very bad jobs at
(24:29):
her shows. And then one of the instance, one of
my homeboys, top it, shout out, top it, top of ninety.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Four, She like kind of.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Loki mustus camera down like on some in the show,
and she won't try to let nobody like you know video.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
She was really like pressing it.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
She was barely recording, Like as an artist, I get it,
like some days it's not worth it. But when that
bag dropped, you know how this go. You know what
I'm saying, It's back to business, you know. I At
the same time, I understand to a certain thing the
female as aspect, but you still got to come correct.
(25:08):
Like so in the midst of the fans kind of
just going on Twitter and social media saying how they
felt about the show, she kind of get the North
Carolina can't dress y'all tacky, something along lines of the
club tackier, y'all can't dress ba Ben.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
So it was like she didn't say Kate dress.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
She said something like, uh so I casted y'all some
fashion DV like like like trying to be so kept
with like really clowning. And then what made me mad
was I seen North Carolina people like, yeah, she is
telling the truth like somebody, And the thing is, I'm
gonna be all the way honest. I was fresh off
(25:46):
to wake up when I seen it. That's when I'm unfiltered.
And now I kind of like, let me get me
an hour before I get on my phone. I see
why people say that now, like and y'all some of
the older folks. I'm gonna say this, y'all need to
start and be known reasons. Why stop just trying to
have them lyon keen moment you say some shit and
(26:06):
disappear and I gotta figure it out later on, No,
let us know what were running into because this could
have saved me some time.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
But in the midst of this incident, it is all like,
how can I explain this shit?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Like yeah, like all right, just to sum it up,
she go do that, And I see how people acting online,
so I take it in my hands, like, yo, I
don't like this fresh off the wake up. I address it,
and I'm going there like I'm joking on it. I'm
like I'm getting it to it. I'm giving a little
oozy like I'm getting it to him. Like in the midst,
(26:41):
I say, like North Carolina too, like y'all whack y'all
laying for this Cuz y'all, let these people come here,
pay this money and keep doing this, Like and disrespect you,
and yeah, like no, I should not be the only
person saying this. And the thing is, they cloud don't
mean nothing. I wish it was at least fifty other people.
We're doing this right now so we can start shutting
(27:02):
people ward off around here. But when it's just me
talking honestly what y'all doing, y'all wait for them to
respond back. Some of them, y'all wait to respond back,
so y'all can try to jump on they side and
try to like boosh your stuff, because you know they
ain't gonna rock with you for real. You know they
ain't gonna be here forever. Like it don't matter who
you are, you ain't kicking it right.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
You get wicked.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
So you know theys ain't just coming to hang out.
So once they get their little players called, you're gonna
try to get your old you know what I'm saying,
get your shaving off the points. So once I just
seen how it was laying out, I just won't feeling it.
But she, uh, after I put the post up, I
was going in on her ooz and all of that,
and just joking. I ain't say much. I just joked
on the one time, but uh, probably like eleven minutes
(27:48):
go by, it's probably got like twenty thousand views, Like
it's going up. Yeah, So about the fourteen to fifteen minutes,
she didn't DM me, and I you know what I'm saying,
Handley thing was she like, you need to be worried
about getting booked in your state.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
And I'm like, if that's a nice one, but if you.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Know who I am, Like right, she won't tap in.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, Like, if you know who I am and I ain't,
that's like that's not even the case. But I told
her on a response while I'm like literally verbatimly that
that's the word of verbatim ly verbatimly.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I told her that.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
But then I was like, Yo, you signed to the
last label to do artists development to where I know
they teach you how to talk, wal't do interviews, performing
all of this, So they wouldn't send you to the
same area that helped make they artists one of the
biggest consumer states in North Carolina not but in USA.
(28:48):
They wouldn't send you here to note for you to
play these type of games, for you to talk crazy
about eleven million people.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
They wouldn't send you here to do that.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
So with knowing that you know you wrong and I
ain't like me being a man and understanding how these
females work. She I didn't get a all right, my bad,
but it was like but still though it was on
the lines of like but still though like let me
like like the butt still don't let me. Okay, I
(29:20):
acknowledge you what you saying, but still so it's like
you still got your point and she was like, yo,
you ain't had to come at me like that. And
then the thing is, by this time period, i'd have
took a shower out of smoked the run. Like my mindset,
I'm off there, fresh off to wake up, don't give more,
like you know, you gotta take that time to shake
it off, like once my second training of conscious thinking
(29:43):
kick there. I'm like, you know what, I really didn't care,
Like I don't care because if y'all want to get
teased and bully that y'all, I'm doing what I was
supposed to do. So well, I thought about it and
she said that, she was like, you didn't have something.
You know what, you're right, So I apologize. I was like,
you know what, you're right. I didn't have.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
To do that.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
But like she also didn't have to disrespect excuse me,
she also didn't have to disrespect Carolina the way she did.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
She right, But I feel like that I feel like
that area between both of those is more people should
have stand up. M I feel like that's what I
feel like need to be going on because what I
see in these other states. I could be on Facebook
right now and they could say Dallas versus Houston, and
(30:27):
they gonna go crazy. But the moment somebody from anywhere
else in other state coming side there, both of those
are gonna get on them and then go.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
You know what I'm saying, right right.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
They're gonna be standing up for each other as a
whole or like a collective. A lot of times it
seemed like Carolina don't seem as a collective compared to
like a Houston, like they ride for each other. Carolina
should be riding for each other too.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I feel like it's just the fact that we ain't
had no consistent relay of like the like just the linelight.
We just ain't had no consistent relay for us to
get used to it, to understand. Like in Atlanta, you
will literally see a nigga with a gold record walking
down the street broke and that's just Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
They understand the business of it.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
So down here, it's like we so far behind because
we ain't even had the normal traffic for artists to
get on, fall off or whatever they.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Want to call it.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Like I'm looking at people talking about oh, North Carolina people,
they kind of like the baby, won't rock with the baby,
won't listen to the baby, or he'd have fell off.
They ain't got like twenty plus million monthly listeners like
twenty I said, man, somebody, you know what I'm saying.
Somebody listened to them, But a lot of people listen
to the baby, and he been going in I rock
(31:44):
with him. But I definitely agree with you that our
people need to stay It don't even matter even if
you feel like someone fell off. The fact that they're
from Carolina, that should be enough for the strength for
you to stay behind them, because if we stay behind them,
it's gonna give more our availability for something else to
come up from the city because we already developed the movement.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
We haven't developed that consistent movement yet, you know what
I'm saying, And that's what we gotta get your routine.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Like it's like we having a little fire sparks, but
we ain't had nothing to burn, so we can see
all right where we at with the smoke settle.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Okay, let's like this bitch again.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
We be having little flames, going to know, but now
it's like we really just need so that peak and
I feel I got to really try to play a
part of it. That's why I say on the media side,
I ain't got much to say speaking on nobody famous,
no more, none of that. People be tagging me in
a few artists like Rob fo I has said sometimes
(32:40):
I feel like I'm from North Carolina something along lines
of it that people got to tagging me, and I'm like,
hell no, y'all, don't tag me and nothing else because
every time I speak up, y'all get on my ass.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
It's crazy to say.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Rob for or now he come in and ship right
in front of the mayor office in Raleigh. I ain't
got nothing to say about it. Hey, do your thing, bro,
have fun working to North.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Carolina because somehow somebody gonna twist it and come at
you when you try to step up for Carolina.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
That's kind of how you feel.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
And I got to live here to deal with the
chaos after the fact, so like, I ain't finna mess
up my home trying to make it cool for some strangers,
trying to check some strangers. Y'all cool with strangers coming
in and disrespecting y'all house, all right, cool with me,
I under stand in my room with the dope closes.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I'll let y'all have it, Like, yeah, I feel you,
like when that happened to somebody enough, it's gonna make
you want to pull off from trying to step into
almost feel like you're the only one that's trying to
put on for your state, you know what I'm saying,
at least at least in that manner because and then
it's the fact that like I feel like that, because
in the midst of this, I understand me having a.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Quote unquote cloud, but it's no way.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I'm the only person saying this, only person that pin
getting views on it. I study the Internet, I study
North Carolina. So I'm looking like, don't nobody else feel
like this? And Nigga's like, no, Nigga, Now, also, are
you a few people? I take that back, it's some people.
I done went into some hoods. I was in Durham
(34:12):
and I was in fuck and what's the name of that?
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I was out there with five five CITs zoo get
resiling in they air and it was treacherous. And some
of the guys like, yo, we like how you handle
that situation, brick baby and them, and I had to think, like,
oh shit, do you know who you're at right now?
If they didn't like it, you wouldn't make it out
of here. So some people that do, but a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, Now, a lot of times we as human nature,
we see the negative more than we see the positive.
Are you sure it's just not like a perspective twist
that the negativity always sounds louder than the positive, and
that can be maybe pushing you away from something that
you generally have a passion for and that's standing up
(34:57):
for where you're from.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I felt like that. I felt like that for a moment.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I'm like, nah, maybe I'm just tripping you know what
I'm saying. But then it started being certain like content
creators of bloggers that wanted to have their narrative on it,
when it's like a lot of y'all have been inside
my DM trying to give me free services and offers
and all this other stuff to get y'all smoking right,
(35:25):
if we're gonna keep it honest. So the fact that
it is like I see what's going on right now,
it's kind of like.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
You wait.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
It's kind of like when you waiting for somebody to
come inside the town to knock out.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
The big bully.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Like we've been waiting for that new guy to come here.
We got somebody for you. We never like him when
it's like, bro, I'm not even a bully like y'all y'all.
I can't explain it.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
It was just that's the that's the narrative that was
trying to be painted. But it only went but so far,
because like I said, I just go over and Beyonce.
I was trying to work the fact like nah this,
I'm gonna stand up for what's right and what I
believe in. So once the narrator got pushed wrong, I'm
a person I don't give fuck what you say.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I will go to a grave about a lie.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I'll be in a lawsuit and take all this shit
to hell because I'm up there talk when they ain't
supposed to know. That bitch a lie, that nigga a lie,
that ain't happen, Like I don't give a fuck what
you call it, like, don't lie, don't put me in
no twist. So that's how I dress it. So I
start seeing like I definitely had supporters. That was like
in my corner, I definitely had supporters.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It was a lot of people like my girl the
real streets, shout the streets.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Because she gave me a good interview, like heard said
my perspective of it, But it's a lot of people
where they were just trying to see how can they
get their rocks offt in the midst of this, And
it's like, it's easier for me to try to go
against him because they know the stript they see it
every day.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
It's easier to try to be.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Like, okay, let me be able to be like nick
and neck with him because I'm in ods with him.
Then to say, let me quote unquote bow down to
him because I need his help, when a lot of
them have been those people that bowed down. If you
want to call it the need of my help, then
they're like, you know what, I have my expectations a
little too high for him.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It ain't go the way I thought.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
If I ever get the moment to try to like
slim them out to get it back.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I'm gonna try to move on that moment.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
So I started seeing that, yeah, come out, So I'm like, ah, okay.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Yeah, all those are indications of you doing something right.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
It comes with the game, you know what I'm saying.
The more and more you grow your your brand, the
more and more you're gonna see those mixed feelings and
people salivating to get to your position. They're gonna try
to come at it because like even like when I'm
here you talking about like you say, maybe pull back
from doing that. It's gonna be someone that gonna try
(37:51):
to rebrand themselves as the real Carolina. Like Yo, I
heard him saying he not doing that no more, Like Yo,
I do this.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
I want them to know, I'm saying, I literally want
them to. I want them to take that lane. Because
in the midst of this, like I said, I'm thirty.
It helped me find out what I am as a man.
I'm not finna be around here like y'all nigga's rich.
I'm not like And it was big podcasts like brick
Baby offered me to come to No Jumper.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
But the whole time. I'm glad I.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Didn't do none of this, because who's to say I
wouldn't be inside his rico case just because Internet blaws
already saying, oh, this is this cryptic I'm.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Never like, oh both of them on recocases, right.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
That's why I'm I think so. I'm pretty sure I
think so, Like I probably need to research. I think
SO and Younger they got something going on, some type shit.
But like that's if I would have leaned on any
anybody's side in the midst of this, I could have
easily been tied up in the midst of So it's
like me pushing peace kind of kept me out the
way when I did want to go to No Jumper,
(38:55):
But I also knew something that is in the back
of me, like bruh, it ain't safe and taking this
move for your career, and everybody in North Carolina saying
you should go. A lot of people telling me, and
that's the supportive side, like it won't like no negative.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
A lot of people like bro.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Use the opportunity to make a chance to make a change.
But I'm just doing like I don't know because I
don't want this perspective to be passed just for this
day to go by. That perspective been passed. So that's
scene I would have tried to make that jump. So's
it's it's a lot of stuff where I learned. Okay,
I'd rather these young guys do their thing, like shout
out my boy the showrocker.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
He be going crazy, like doing the hood laws.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I still do them sometimes to a certain extent, but
he got more of a raw say what the fuck
I want to say?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Style, like Ox.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Rolled through hill where the hoes be at, Like you
can hear a young guy, I ain't with all that.
I'm asking, like how the gentrification around here hurt you
and your people?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Like in the midst of you living.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
In this war and stuff going on, what are you
doing to like help your mental or what do you
do that you feel like help your meals?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Like I feel like it just I don't.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Take it as nobody did nothing wrong. I feel like
a lot of the times I just heard somebody say
something to the other they shot my boy ness Marley. He said,
if you ain't out the way, you in somebody's way.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
So the fact of me inserting myself in a lot
of these situations, yeah, A lot of people ain't speak up.
I just put myself in somebody's way. So now it
might be somebody North Carolina don't like me, or it
might be this famous person to where they can spend
some money. And now somebody can try to touch me
for a easy bad you know what I'm saying. It's
crazy shit like God for me, but you know, like
(40:38):
it just made me think the fact of being grown.
Now you got to think lie for their first money
survival nicks, like it's this situation, something's gonna kill me
it could it possibly get me in their horns reach?
Speaker 2 (40:52):
All right?
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Now what's the money looking like in this situation?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
So it just right?
Speaker 4 (40:56):
And that ain't pussy thinking like that.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
That's smart, Like you know what, I'm all the ones
that made it.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
They was thinking like that big picture wise.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
You know what I'm saying, I'm seeing Jeez popping up
on the screen and that's crazy. Like he was thinking
big picture wise, like getting up out of that situation,
like not worrying about somebody trying to call him puss it.
Oh he puts it. He pushed in beasts. He trying
to avoid these type of situations. He's not streaked, No, more. Nah,
that's not the end goal to be screaked. Who wanted
to be retire in the streets. Okay, I'm seventy five.
(41:26):
Now I'm dead and I died, agangster. You think that's
something to be proud of? Like do you really think
that's something to be proud of? Like we got to
really grow up and open our minds.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Man, Man, I'd be seeing stuff now, Like the older
I get, the more I don't sleep.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I have work to do.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Because I drove past a store in my city and
I see niggas out there comfortable, chilling, and I said,
fuck no.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
These guys older than me, Like.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
No, yes, Like if that's your reality, your life, cool,
But how I'm looking at it, that's horrible to me.
I don't want to be there. Some people's like I
don't even want the pressures of trying to do this stuff?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
You do? They looking at me like I don't see
how you do that? You know what I'm saying, But
it just let me know like, nah, I want bigger,
Like I don't know more than that, like.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Per And then something I heard consistent with all of
these stories, man, it seemed like you're not afraid to
have some self reflection after making an impulsive decision, like
when you wake up, you.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Don't mind self reflected.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
And that's part of growing up too, because a lot
of times people these days or also in the youth. Hell,
it's even a lot of grown folks, grown grown still
they don't self reflect.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Athlete, and then.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Even if you know they even if they know they're wrong,
they still don't want to admit it.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
You know what I'm saying, Like, how do you get there?
And why you think that's important?
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Subscribe now for part two parts more than the part.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
It's a lifestyle like style.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
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