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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, and he came to me and he just was like, look, man,
I understand that's your mama, but that's my warman, Like,
I ain't gonna let you keep disrespecting me.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
He said, when you eat the food at home, is
it step food? I said no. He said when I
spend my money's it step money? I said no. He said,
what you ain't gonta refer me as your stepdad? I'm
just taeddy. I started loving and to death and then
he died on me.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Bro I went to three major surgeries and my son
getting killed on label day. He had just finished school
and everything. So I had to go up there and
really wasn't even one hundred percent podcast more than the.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Pard It's a lifestyle like style.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Style Yo yo yo, Welcome to the Highest Point Podcast.
This is a show for everyone who's willing to put
in the label to be greater, to reach the highest Point. Now,
speaking by someone that put in at work, we got
a very special guest in the building. I'm talking about
a BT free style legend, entrepreneur, podcast hosts, and much more.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
If you don't know who.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I'm talking about, If you don't know the name, check
the chain you underdig me. We got none other Dan
big Jig in the building. Man, what's good which you
brought us?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
A lout from me? I appreciate appreciate you having me too. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
If you don't know the name, check the motherfucker chain.
Yeah here man, it's a loot man.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, indeed.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's like there's a lot of people see the end
result of someone's success in journey, you know what I'm saying,
but they have no idea about all the work they
got put in.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'll get to where we are.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
So a lot of what we do on this show,
we like to focus in on that to get insight
to our viewers.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So can we first.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Start off with you know where you're from and what
was your family dynamics growing up?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Man, I'm from Chicago actually, you know what I'm saying,
south Side, you know, Chicago and Indiana basically I'll be
I rep them both.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I come from a good background. You know what I'm saying.
My mom, you know what I'm saying. I came from
a two pretty much a two parent you know, back
of a home, you know what I'm saying. Like, my
real dad wasn't around, but my stepdad was around. So
we still I still was in a two two parent home.
You know what I'm saying. You know, I can't be
like a lot of cats, A lot of cats, a
(02:03):
lot of you, a lot of you motherfuckers, be flu gazing,
be trying to tell people, Oh, man, I'm from the
mud with it, blah blah. Nah man, I'm gonna keep
it funky. Like I was in the street. But I
was in the street because I wanted to be right,
because I ain't had no choice. Now, salute to those
they had to do it because they had no choice.
I had a choice, you know what I mean, My mama, Christian,
you or me. I grew up in a pretty good home,
(02:24):
you know what I'm saying. But I just wanted to
be in the streets, right, That's what it was, just
keeping the g you know what I'm saying. I just
wanted to be in the streets.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, yeah, I mean It's kind of crazy how sometimes
in our culture we kind of push that, Okay, I'm
from the streets, I'm from I came from nothing to
like yo. At the same time, you kind of discredit
your parents exactly what you do, you know what I'm saying, Like,
when you know that they was holding you down. You
just made some different choices yourself. A fact you chose
(02:52):
to be in the streets. You're not from there.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
That's a fact. I showed that shit. It'sn't new to
my mom too. Man, My mama's still here eight years old.
Haunt said, I love her to death.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, man, that's dope now.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Because I know you said your step poss was in
your life, but your biological dad wasn't in that much.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Right. I'm a step father myself.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I always kind of wonder from with you growing up
with a step dad, what type of head button that
you guys grew up into or did you ever have
that point where they say, it's always a point where
a step child may say, you.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Ain't my daddy. You ever had that moment you ain't
my daddy? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I did, Man, I think everybody had kind of had
that moment. You know what I'm saying, Like, Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
He was a man, dude.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I can't I can't say another good shit about him. Man,
he was such a profound dude.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I used to watch how he do my mom, Like
he kind of taught me how to treat women. You
feel what I'm saying. So you know him or my mom.
You know, he used to have my mama around the
crib like a little high school girl.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So uh, you know, I had a couple of incidents where,
you know, yead I had kind of got mad because
he was kind of you know, kind of reprimanded to me,
got on me, and I was like, you know, of
course flew out my mouth.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
He had I was disrespecting my mom and he came
to me and he just was like, look, man, I
understand that's your mama, but that's my woman.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Like, I ain't gonna let you keep disrespectulk.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
So he kind of gave me the business and you
know me, I'm in my mom and I'm talking to
my mama like, man, how you.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Gonna let hear him do that to me? And you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
And then he after that moment, man, I started loving
and the death and then he died on me, bro.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So I was sick, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Like I was sick, but I was glad that I
started loving him before he before he did that, you
know what I'm saying, Because it's like it's all bad
when when you know you, uh, you have to think
about damn. I was being disrespectful and I didn't get
a chance to apologize or even showing my love one.
So I did get my chance to show him like, yeah,
(04:54):
I love you, bro, like you know what I'm saying.
I know I came sideways, but I love you, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So I did have my chance to do that before
God took him. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, I mean that's a blessing. You had the opportunity
A lot of us don't. Yeah, And because I went
through that same moment as well. My son he's fourteen now,
maybe about I don't know, maybe about three years ago.
I always knew it was coming. I've been in his license.
He was like two, you know what I'm saying. But
I always knew that moment was coming. Here gonna say
that because he'd be getting a big boy filling himself.
And he said that to me one day. But that
(05:24):
didn't phaze me. That didn't impact me of not wanting
to be there for him because I always was prepared
for it. But you know, with you thinking hindsight to
other kids, that's out there growing up with a step
pops that's in their life consistently, you having a message
that you would maybe.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Say, man uh at the end of the day, man,
just even me being a dad myself.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yah yah yo, yeah, yeah, anybody could be a father,
but everybody can't be no dad. You know what I'm saying,
Like you know, uh, a dad is somebody that you
see all the time, that's there for you, that's there
with you, that's you know, that's taking care of you
for real.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Not just somebody just paying child's boy, right, I mean,
because you're getting told by the system to pay the bill.
It ain't like you doing it because you really want
to do it. Shout out to the ones that do
do it because they don't want to do it. But
you know what I'm saying. If anything, man, I tell
anybody man, rather your step my mother, your stepdaddy.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Man.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
One day, I one day I said that to my stepdaddy.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
He just made me think about it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
One day I said that to him and I was
introducing him to somebody, like here, this is my stepdaddy.
So he pulled me to the side. He was like, so,
let me tell you something. He said, when you eat
the food at home, is it step food?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I said no. He said when I spend my money's
it step money? I said no. He said, what you
ain't gonta refer me as your stepdad. I'm just taddy.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I said that took that, and I took that for life.
When he said that, I was like, damn, I never
thought about it.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
He made it clear. He was like, man, this ain't
no step money, This ain't no step food. So you
ain't gotta never get real one dad. He was like,
you ain't never got to refer me as your step
there bro. I was like, wow, yeah, it ain't no
playbook on that stuff. Though. Man, it's like you just
figured out as you go. I know he probably felt
away because I don't. I'm in the same situation.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I don't know really what to be saying sometimes, like
I just know him here for this child every single day.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I don't know these labels. I consider myself like his dad.
He got his by your dad. He got me.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
You know what I'm saying, Like he got two daddy,
so that means he got one up on a lot
of people.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
If he just take it that way, especially if they
both got the thing about kids. Man, if kids were
if they got a good step father or a good
step mama and they got the other biological payer, that's
that's you win it as a kid.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
As a kid, you winning it was like that.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
That's what if they both in your life got your
real dad in your life and your stepdad in your life,
you got your real mama your life and.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Your step mommy your life. You winning. Yeah, yeah, you win,
really winning, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So, you know we're talking about you know, how you're
growing up and all that. You know, sometimes as bully
a man, we can be very stubborn. You know, you
had those productive parents in your life, but you still
took an option to deal with streets as well.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So can you tell me about a.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Moment where when you were growing up where you were
hard headed and had to learn a valuable lesson the
hard way.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I was in Indiana at the time.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
My we went to Chicago, kicked it with my Pottners,
and you know, I really want supposed to be out there,
no way, but you know I went on and went
and then we had went to see these girls and
then uh, my buddy who Carby was in. It was
his my other partner's cousin, and we put up at
the girl's house next to you know, you know, we
(08:39):
in the wrong hood, you know, because you know I'm
from I'm from the jitty hood. So they there was
from the beady We was in the beaty hood, you
know what I'm saying. So they they seen us over there,
and you know, uh, they was like, yo, man, you
know my boy head just had cocked to the right
deep yeah man TV.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I'm like, man, don't do that over here. Bro, Like
you know what out right? Right?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
He like, man, you know, fuck THEMN man. I'm like,
all right, bro, I ain't got no hat on. I'm
all right, bro. So we so now they pull up
and when they pulled up, they like, hey, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Whoo who? Like where y'all from? Were like, shit, Joe,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I ain't say nothing. He was like shit, nigga dude
was like a nigga bead. My homie was like shit.
I was like, what you thought?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So he like, oh, no, I man, y'all ain't in
the wrong hood. He was like, what about you, I said,
he man, I'm just chilling, bro, you know what I'm saying.
I said, we can't see these chicks. Y'all got to
get the fuck on from right here. So then right,
so they left. But then when they left, the police
pulled up, and the police pulled up with our other.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Partner who drove with his dad in the car.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So the police the post my homeboy who Kai was in,
his dad was in the cap of the police.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
He jumped out the car.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
The dad jumped out the police car and was like
and all of a sudden, the my boy cousin hu
Kaby was in pure I'm like, yo, he was like,
but that my son. I'm like the man, he was like, here,
that's my son.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
This is my damn car.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm like, oh, this nigga took his daddy car. Though
this nigga took his daddy car. We ain't even know.
So we riding around the car and his daddy and
then already called in like God took yeah. So so
now we look real fucked up because the little bay
nigga's over there, was like.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yo, we don't want you all over here nowhere right right.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Like now, So now y'all really like, we on, y'all
ass now because y'all got twelve over here and got
a block that got the block house.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
So now boom.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So now you know what I'm saying. We looked up
me and my partner, he steady want to talk shit.
I'm like, bro, nah man. They was like, man, y'all
better get the fuck on. I was like, man, you
ready took off running. We though now were running, you
know what I'm saying. So now we here flack of
they busting, but we don't even know who they. We
don't know if he busting at us or they busting
at the cousin were just gone, I'm running, so we
(10:54):
run and then we ran to uh the uh. My
partner and his cousin used to work for this old man.
So now we in this old man garage. So I'm like, yo,
who cribs is? He was like, oh, Max to work
for him. He's like, I said, well, go knock on
the door.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Let him know we're in hell. You know what I'm saying.
He was like, no, we're straight. We're straight. So then
them niggas left out.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
And when they left out, I walked out and I
see them niggas on the damn ct A bus riding
they jumped on the bus left me. Well, now when
they left me, I'm coming out here come twelve.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I'm like this.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So I get locked up. Then when I got locked
up for it, you know what I'm saying, I had
to go to court. But my mama had already told me.
You know what I'm saying, what your dumb ass was
doing out there sucking with them anyway, So I go
to court. Then when I go to court, the old
man was like, I don't even know that young man,
y'all can let him go. He I knew who he
was with, so.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
He I don't even to the old The old shout
out to the old G. I don't know who it was.
I forgot his name. But the old G was like, nah, man,
y'all can let him go. Bro, I was in Cook County.
They locked my ass up. Did with he was lucky?
You got that? Yeah, they locked my ass up.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So they thought they they I ain't getting I didn't
get in no bullshit behind it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But that was a lesson that I learned.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
And then the other lesson I learned was when I
had kind of like made my mama so salty with
a god. I had a bad habit of like I
was class clown for one at school. But not only
was out a class clown, you know what I'm saying.
I would do shit like Friday because I played ball
and shit. So you know I had games on Friday,
shit like that. But instead of me coming home Friday,
(12:31):
I'm going to kick it with my partners and my
cousin at they crib for the weekend, right right.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
So so so I ain't even go back to the
crib until like Sunday, you know what I'm saying. So
I had to go to school.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
So my mama got tired of this shit, man, and
she threw my ass and this boys on for a
little while.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
So I was in the boys on. You know what
I'm saying. I had to stand in the boys on
for a little while. Man.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Then I finally, you know, I finally got it together,
you know what I'm saying. And I was like, man,
let me quit playing. So that that was it for me.
That was the last straw which mom threw threw me
and that boys on. I was like, she ain't.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Playing with my ad right, See, no games, you put
your ass out the dollar. It's a rap.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I'm like, I'm like probably like sixteen seventeen to MIAs
you fuck out.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Hearing me and the boys home, I was like, fuck, yeah, yeah, hey,
but you got it together. You know, I did hard.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
You had to learn the hard way, but you learned
a lot of us keep bumping out head over and
over until we're in the grave. Were in the jail
for twenty years, you know what I'm saying. So that's
dope that you figured it out, and a lot of
people tune in, like, look, if you already had some
hard times and you're still out here, you don't have
a lot of opportunities.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Don't let anymore pass you by, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
You know the crazy thing about it. The two cats
that I'm telling you all about. The one who stole
his daddy, k he dead now, and then the other
nigga got ninety five years.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
See real shit, The other.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Nigga got ninety five years for killing three dope things,
and then the other nigga dead.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Choices, Man, he's still here, you heel me still here? Crazy? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I was like damn when I when I found out
because my my career was kind of moving around. When
I fucked up by my boy catching that ninety five pack,
I'm like, damn, litenigg got ninety five years.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I'm like, what the fucking this? So I ended up
talking to him, you know what I mean? On the net.
He was like, yeah, man, I had to. I had to.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
They said I killed three three dope fiends. I'm like, damn, yeah,
that's horrible. That's horrible.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Now.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I'm also you know, with you moving around, I could
see that you collaborating with major culture pushes like Gilly
from million dollars worth of Game.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
No, man, shout out to Gilly and Wallow, that's my partner. Yeah,
that's what's uping man.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Now, how do you navigate and cultivate relationships like that?
Because a lot of people see you doing that, talking
like like how you even chopping.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It up with these people? Man? Because I've been in
the game so long, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
So you know that that being on one o six
apart ship back in the day when I was Freestyle
Friday Temp, I kind of got a chance to get
cool with a lot of execs at the labels, a
lot of as producers, Big Dog producers and a lot
of artists. You know what I'm saying, because you know,
especially somebody like Gilly. Like you know, Gilly was was popping,
(15:10):
rapping right him and his little squad major figures, for sure.
It was popping back in the day. So I had
I was going back, going back and forth to Philly,
and I was going to this studio called the Back
Cave in Philly, and every time I was going a
Gilly was in there. So I was like, damn, man,
you know what I'm saying, Gilly in this bitch. I'm like,
you know, So I just said, fuck it, you know
(15:31):
what I mean. I'm gonna get cool with him. So
I started going over.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
To his sessions and chopping up with him, like look,
and we just stayed linked. We stayed link.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Man, I've been doing Gilly about twenty years. Wow, you
know that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Also, we got this Ugly Money music summing going on.
How do you have attended one of these?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah? I don't always do it.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I do them every year because I have my own
stage at Universal Stage. I'll be running, you know what
I'm saying, So shout out my little brother man. Ugly
Money needs you for other money. Summit. Got my dog,
Jim Jones was gonna be through there, you know what
I'm saying. Shit like that, Now what do we what
can we kind of expect? This is my first one
going to so like what's the vibes?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Like the vibes is crazy?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Man, Like, this is the first time he moving it
Like it used to be at this spot called the
Atrium when it was like three clubs in one and
it's like three different stages. So you would have a
Man stage, you would have a Universal stage, and then
you would have another stage and I usually run the
Universal stage, and then it'll he have a little Boosy stage.
So everybody it'd be like a rotating theme where if
(16:33):
you end up in the top ten, you go to
the Man stage, or whoever end up in the from
out of the Universal stage might end up at going
to Boosy.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Got it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
And so it was just a situation where he kind
of rotated around. Here had Boosy one year people people
wanted to go see Boosy. Then the one year here
people go see Gunner. The one year here people go
see money Bag.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
So it was just given the opportunity for a lot
of artists to try to get to was you know
what I'm he locked in?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, he definitely locked in Man for Shure.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
So I'm gonna transition to this segment we have on
our show called Who You Rocking With? I'm gonna give
you two options. It don't mean you don't like the other.
Butt Like, Okay, I would listen to this person first,
I would listen or I would watch this show first.
Just let me know who you rocking with? So, who
you rocking with? Twenty one Savage or a little.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Dirt Dirt got to man Dirt home from Chicago.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I gotta rock with Dirt even though I fuck with Savage,
but I got a rock with Dirt Man.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah your home team, Yeah yeah, I hope he come
home some man free Dirt Man real for real? All right?
Who you rocking with? Young Dolph or Yo Gotti? Dolph Man?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Dolf fuck with Dolf Man, Nigga, don't understand how smart
doff a smart dude Man, Dolph Smart Dolph. I remember
Man because Dolphe did a record with my little brother Man.
They did a video and meniche and then I did
a couple of tours before then with Dolf. So that's
how I met Dolf and did a couple of tours
(18:07):
with Dolf and then for all and all man he
for his people, you know what I'm saying, Like he
he I remember they tried to offer him like twenty
two million or something.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
He turned it down. He was like, I'm straight, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
So he was, he was eating good, he was doing good.
And it's sad because I think that the hate is
what got him killed. It just was mad because they
couldn't stop him. Like damn this niggas, I'm around here
killing them, you know what I'm saying, putting people on.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So you know, l R, I p off Man for real,
for real, for real. They wanted a piece of what
he had going on. He didn't want to give it
to him.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Want to give it to him?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, I respect it though, all right, who you're rocking
with a million dollars worth of gang or drink Champs?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I got it. I gotta rock with Ghilly Man. I
gotta rock with him.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
A Willow means that even though I fucked with nory Man,
I like nor I liked with him and DJ and
I'm doing and f I'm.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Doing man, I like they doing. Man.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I like dream chaps a lot, you know what I'm saying,
But I gotta fuck with me, and that nigga out
with a.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Game is more versatile than I've seen a lot of
them that started off big like they. I got to
give a major salute to Gillian Wallow to how they maneuver.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
This media space. Many get they bringing sports.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Artists, they out the basketball, But you know what, I
knew that me and I worth a game was big
when I looked up and seeing baby Face Edmonds on
the show.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I seen nig got baby Face on her on the podcast, Yeah,
ken If Edmonds.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I was like, oh yeah, y'all y'all clowning, Yeah, yeah,
y'all baby.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Face Chris Brown, I'm like, yeah, yeah, Gilly shit. Yeah.
They're different, they shit different, bro different.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
But I really I really like the ship because you
could tell. You could tell that genuine and respect, genuine love.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
They not acting.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It ain't a scared like that's really them right if
you be with them right now, but the cameras off,
they the same way.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
The same way with each other, you know what I'm saying,
And that's why they successful.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Authentic hell and Wallow Wallow Man, I just like Wallowed
so much because Wallow Wallow kind of like he's so
he's bringing that emotion out.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
You like wall Wallow. It'll be times wyllod And talked
about ship though.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Damn tear it up, Yeah, because whyllo be for real
like he be meaning it, be meaning that ship like
it ain't a.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Joke to him.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
He'd be like bro like he one of the ones
that you could tell that They say prison is not
supposed to be They say prison is supposed to be rehabilitation, right,
even though a lot of times most most Kevin, they
got a prison, they end up going right back. Wallow
is the total definition of really got his mind trained
that he wanted to do better. He was determined to
(20:46):
do better, and he was determined to put people everybody
around him to do better. That's what he been on
and I respect that ship man.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean, that's that's what a definition of
real o G is there putting action, you know, something,
helping up. It is not being selfish, taken away from
other people. He's been pouring into other people in the
world been pouring.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Back into him.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
So in fact, some major respect to them fellas who
you're rocking with, Martin the Fresh Prince.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Martin Man. I fuck with Will, but I love Martin Man.
I like Martin Man, I like Martin. Yeah, yeah, he hilarious, hilarious.
Now you got this.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Big track out there right now, Man, Drip, can you
tell us a little bit about that?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Man? That shit going crazy right now. Man, it's called Drip.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Shout out Carter Block and Tea and the Bear my family.
Shout out Empire and Universal for the distribution and.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And the track light.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
It just reached like number fifty nine and the top
one hundreds on ATOO, and I got a whole remix
of it, man, with I just started leaking telling people
what it was. Want the remix with the remixes, Uh,
Gorilla Zoe.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
And two Chains, Oh man, that's gonna be hard.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
It's gonna be stupid, man. So you know, we're waiting
to get Two Chains stuff cleared so.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
We can go ahead and do what we do.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
But if nothing else, Joe already own it. We already
got Zo R locked in. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So it's the ship is crazy, man, It's yeah. I
seen you performing on the debut too.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, shout out to the debut, shout out to Point
and Navy Man, Little Booshie Daughter Man. Yeah, I hate
to go on there man one time for the one
time Man on the debut. It's a dope ass platform,
for sure. It's a dope platform. It's almost like some
American idol, like right, like some hip hop America idol
type of shit.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, And it's the energy
is so dope. So it is dope. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I love what they're doing over there too. We fans
Aday on the debut as well. Now, how can people
tap in and hear this single? Support what you got
going on?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Oh man?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
The single is everywhere on all the platforms right now,
and you can on Apple Music anything you can think
of it up there right now. And you can follow
me on Instagram, you know at bigg Underscore jigg and
that's on everything TikTok as well my YouTube channel, YouTube
dot com forward slash at b I G G A
(23:11):
j I G G all one word. I got a
new book coming out called JBT, which is the initial
of my government name, but the acronym is just breaking through.
Well I'm talking about you know all my adversities i'd
have been through, you know, from the time I started
the music ship till now. You know what I'm saying,
all the shit that it took me to get noticed,
(23:32):
get recognized, and all the obstacles that I went through
with you know, health, health problems, to surgeries to all
kinds of shit. Man, you know what I'm saying that
I haven't been through to to have to took bounce back,
you know what I'm saying. So you know, but then
like the last eight months, man, i'd have been through.
Uh Like, uh, I went through two, I went through
(23:55):
three major surgeries and uh get my son getting killed
on Labor Day. Oh man, I didn't know that eight
months I hear that, you know what I'm saying, That
shit went back to back, Like I had.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Surgery in.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
July and then I couldn't walk for like maybe two
or three months. Then I got Then I then I
started bagwalking once I got when they got me together.
As soon as I started bagwalking, not even a week
prior to me starting back get on my feet. My
son got shot in the head in Ohio. How old
was he eighteen?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
He had just finished school and everything. So I had
to go up there and really wasn't even one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Then I came back and then when I came back
home and September I had throw a big ass my
celeb birthday badge I threw every year. That shit was
sold out downtown and Buckhead and then and that was
then in the middle of October, and then January came,
I had, uh, I had to do a show January
(24:57):
thirty first, No February first, but I went to New
Orleans January thirty first to do the show February first.
So when I got to the walls at February first,
I was hurting so bad. I had to cancel out
and I was in the Airbnb, was hurting so bad
to cancel out the show and get them they praad
back and I ended up going to the hospital and
(25:17):
they was like, well, thank god, you can go to
do the show or go back to Atlanta because a
Penny's erupted. So I had to have major surgery, you know.
I had to go in and cut my abdomino open
and all that crazy shit. And I ended up staying
in the hospital from February first till March to sixth,
So I sat in up for like thirty four days.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, and then I can't.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Then I flew back home, and shit, I've been up
back at it ever since I got back home, even
though I wasn't opposed to, but I was like, man,
I can't, I gotta, I gotta keep going, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
So I'd have been through some shit, man, you know
what I'm saying. Definitely fast too, Like you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
This shit, all this shit I'm talking about was under
a year, right, under a year, man, you know what
I'm saying. You imagine going through three different surgeries, right,
and then you're losing your kid and still out here grind.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
That's shit crazy Yeah, yeah, it's still crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
And sometimes that grind is a coping mechanism to try
to keep your mind off of that pain like that.
And I know that's something because Gilly lost his child
in attractive ways like that as well.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Anything you got sure to call when it happened.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
When I imposed it, Gilly hit me like Bro, I said, Man,
I thought exactly how you feel, Bro.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It was crazy? Yeah, yeah,
well I definitely you know what I'm saying. Major condulecence
to that.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Man, can't nobody speak on to how that can feel.
And so someone that went through it, and hopefully if
you guys, relationship can help you guys keep your son's
name up in a in a high way, you know
what I'm saying, from that negativity, and also be a
message to other kids as well. But yeah, man, that
(26:55):
was that was dope. Also, I actually had a random
question to you. I had those random questions as well
on the show. I don't know if you've seen this
whole back and forth thing going on with Remy mind papus,
I didn't notice.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
That, man, Audio, I know it happened, Remy for real.
You know what I'm saying, I don't respect Rim though.
The only reason why I don't respect Rim because at
the end of the day, it no matter what you
said about Pap, Pap.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Still held you down. Man. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Papheads you down, Pap when it seen you every day
for a couple of years. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So you know, whatever you got going on and what
you're saying at this point, that don't even matter, man,
because I can't I can't imagine they even though Pap.
I feel like Pap upgraded by fucking I do. I
feel like I feel like he upgraded, But I know
that shit still probably hurt, oh for sure, saying because
come on, man, you've been holding somebody down, you know,
(27:44):
you know, and especially being a man, you already can't
have pride issues anyway, so you don't help somebody down
that long. And then they get out and they on
this ship and then Papped. The thing about it with
Papa is Pap been quiet the whole time, right, he
wass saying shit, right, so now he's just like, look,
I'm tired of hold and they fuck it like you
want to keep going there?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
And now I'm gonna say what I got to say.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
You know, now she's saying this ship so now, but
I don't want I don't want to see him going
to no back and forth shit with her, because what
she gonna do is start making him look corny exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
You know what I'm saying, women, because the.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Women fuck would Pap behind it behind the fact that
he held her down, right, So but I think him
going back and forth with her, if he don't stop it,
it's gonna make him look he needs to go and pull.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Out right and pull out.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
You got Clarissa, all right, you got to you got
the heavyweight Chapping of the world.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, yeah, she's bad to me. I think she's said, yeah, yeah,
she's bad. You know what I'm saying. You know she's younger.
You know, they can start a whole family together. I
think he's just go ahead, get a divorce done, go ahead,
move with your new layo. She seemed like she rocked
with you.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Also, she done went through u relationships where her engagement
didn't work. So she's gonna appreciate a man the solid
like him. He's proven, you know what I'm saying, So
he don't need nothing that's to prove he needs to
pull out their conversation. That's the only thing that I
saw recently. I'm like, yo, he don't need to go
back and forth.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Nah, I wouldn't go back and forth with her no
more cause you can tell she but her Yeah yeah
this is already but her. She looking at Clarissa like
claristal she nice piece. Yeah, got more money than you. Yeah,
she got probably more fans than you. Like the shorty
is doing way better than you. So like you know
what I mean, Like, I ain't Finnish go back and
forth with you. If this thing right here next to me, look,
(29:23):
ain't no, ain't no need at this speek for people be.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Volume right a right real for real man. But yeah, man,
it been a pleasure tapping in with you. Man, we
got a lot of game from you today. Everybody, make
sure you tune into what he got going on. Follow
him on all social media. I'm looking forward to seeing
you out there in the music Summing tomorrow show. Yeah yeah,
So until next time.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
You guys, hold it down, don't let it hold you.
You know, it is
Speaker 3 (29:51):
More than the pard It's a lifestyle like style style
Yeah, and he came to me and he just was like, look, man,
I understand that's your mama, but that's my warman, Like,
I ain't gonna let you keep disrespecting me.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
He said, when you eat the food at home, is
it step food? I said no. He said when I
spend my money's it step money? I said no. He said,
what you ain't gonta refer me as your stepdad? I'm
just taeddy. I started loving and to death and then
he died on me.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Bro I went to three major surgeries and my son
getting killed on label day. He had just finished school
and everything. So I had to go up there and
really wasn't even one hundred percent podcast more than the.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Pard It's a lifestyle like style.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Style Yo yo yo, Welcome to the Highest Point Podcast.
This is a show for everyone who's willing to put
in the label to be greater, to reach the highest Point. Now,
speaking by someone that put in at work, we got
a very special guest in the building. I'm talking about
a BT free style legend, entrepreneur, podcast hosts, and much more.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
If you don't know who.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I'm talking about, If you don't know the name, check
the chain you underdig me. We got none other Dan
big Jig in the building. Man, what's good which you
brought us?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
A lout from me? I appreciate appreciate you having me too. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
If you don't know the name, check the motherfucker chain.
Yeah here man, it's a loot man.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, indeed.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's like there's a lot of people see the end
result of someone's success in journey, you know what I'm saying,
but they have no idea about all the work they
got put in.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'll get to where we are.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
So a lot of what we do on this show,
we like to focus in on that to get insight
to our viewers.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So can we first.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Start off with you know where you're from and what
was your family dynamics growing up?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Man, I'm from Chicago actually, you know what I'm saying,
south Side, you know, Chicago and Indiana basically I'll be
I rep them both.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I come from a good background. You know what I'm saying.
My mom, you know what I'm saying. I came from
a two pretty much a two parent you know, back
of a home, you know what I'm saying. Like, my
real dad wasn't around, but my stepdad was around. So
we still I still was in a two two parent home.
You know what I'm saying. You know, I can't be
like a lot of cats, A lot of cats, a
(02:03):
lot of you, a lot of you motherfuckers, be flu gazing,
be trying to tell people, Oh, man, I'm from the
mud with it, blah blah. Nah man, I'm gonna keep
it funky. Like I was in the street. But I
was in the street because I wanted to be right,
because I ain't had no choice. Now, salute to those
they had to do it because they had no choice.
I had a choice, you know what I mean, My mama, Christian,
you or me. I grew up in a pretty good home,
(02:24):
you know what I'm saying. But I just wanted to
be in the streets, right, That's what it was, just
keeping the g you know what I'm saying. I just
wanted to be in the streets.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, yeah, I mean It's kind of crazy how sometimes
in our culture we kind of push that, Okay, I'm
from the streets, I'm from I came from nothing to
like yo. At the same time, you kind of discredit
your parents exactly what you do, you know what I'm saying, Like,
when you know that they was holding you down. You
just made some different choices yourself. A fact you chose
(02:52):
to be in the streets. You're not from there.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
That's a fact. I showed that shit. It'sn't new to
my mom too. Man, My mama's still here eight years old.
Haunt said, I love her to death.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, man, that's dope now.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Because I know you said your step poss was in
your life, but your biological dad wasn't in that much.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Right. I'm a step father myself.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I always kind of wonder from with you growing up
with a step dad, what type of head button that
you guys grew up into or did you ever have
that point where they say, it's always a point where
a step child may say, you.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Ain't my daddy. You ever had that moment you ain't
my daddy? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I did, Man, I think everybody had kind of had
that moment. You know what I'm saying, Like, Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
He was a man, dude.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I can't I can't say another good shit about him. Man,
he was such a profound dude.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I used to watch how he do my mom, Like
he kind of taught me how to treat women. You
feel what I'm saying. So you know him or my mom.
You know, he used to have my mama around the
crib like a little high school girl.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So uh, you know, I had a couple of incidents where,
you know, yead I had kind of got mad because
he was kind of you know, kind of reprimanded to me,
got on me, and I was like, you know, of
course flew out my mouth.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
He had I was disrespecting my mom and he came
to me and he just was like, look, man, I
understand that's your mama, but that's my woman.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Like, I ain't gonna let you keep disrespectulk.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
So he kind of gave me the business and you
know me, I'm in my mom and I'm talking to
my mama like, man, how you.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Gonna let hear him do that to me? And you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
And then he after that moment, man, I started loving
and the death and then he died on me, bro.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So I was sick, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Like I was sick, but I was glad that I
started loving him before he before he did that, you
know what I'm saying, Because it's like it's all bad
when when you know you, uh, you have to think
about damn. I was being disrespectful and I didn't get
a chance to apologize or even showing my love one.
So I did get my chance to show him like, yeah,
(04:54):
I love you, bro, like you know what I'm saying.
I know I came sideways, but I love you, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So I did have my chance to do that before
God took him. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, I mean that's a blessing. You had the opportunity
A lot of us don't. Yeah, And because I went
through that same moment as well. My son he's fourteen now,
maybe about I don't know, maybe about three years ago.
I always knew it was coming. I've been in his license.
He was like two, you know what I'm saying. But
I always knew that moment was coming. Here gonna say
that because he'd be getting a big boy filling himself.
And he said that to me one day. But that
(05:24):
didn't phaze me. That didn't impact me of not wanting
to be there for him because I always was prepared
for it. But you know, with you thinking hindsight to
other kids, that's out there growing up with a step
pops that's in their life consistently, you having a message
that you would maybe.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Say, man uh at the end of the day, man,
just even me being a dad myself.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yah yah yo, yeah, yeah, anybody could be a father,
but everybody can't be no dad. You know what I'm saying,
Like you know, uh, a dad is somebody that you
see all the time, that's there for you, that's there
with you, that's you know, that's taking care of you
for real.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Not just somebody just paying child's boy, right, I mean,
because you're getting told by the system to pay the bill.
It ain't like you doing it because you really want
to do it. Shout out to the ones that do
do it because they don't want to do it. But
you know what I'm saying. If anything, man, I tell
anybody man, rather your step my mother, your stepdaddy.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Man.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
One day, I one day I said that to my stepdaddy.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
He just made me think about it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
One day I said that to him and I was
introducing him to somebody, like here, this is my stepdaddy.
So he pulled me to the side. He was like, so,
let me tell you something. He said, when you eat
the food at home, is it step food?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I said no. He said when I spend my money's
it step money? I said no. He said, what you
ain't gonta refer me as your stepdad. I'm just taddy.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I said that took that, and I took that for life.
When he said that, I was like, damn, I never
thought about it.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
He made it clear. He was like, man, this ain't
no step money, This ain't no step food. So you
ain't gotta never get real one dad. He was like,
you ain't never got to refer me as your step
there bro. I was like, wow, yeah, it ain't no
playbook on that stuff. Though. Man, it's like you just
figured out as you go. I know he probably felt
away because I don't. I'm in the same situation.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I don't know really what to be saying sometimes, like
I just know him here for this child every single day.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I don't know these labels. I consider myself like his dad.
He got his by your dad. He got me.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
You know what I'm saying, Like he got two daddy,
so that means he got one up on a lot
of people.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
If he just take it that way, especially if they
both got the thing about kids. Man, if kids were
if they got a good step father or a good
step mama and they got the other biological payer, that's
that's you win it as a kid.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
As a kid, you winning it was like that.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
That's what if they both in your life got your
real dad in your life and your stepdad in your life,
you got your real mama your life and.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Your step mommy your life. You winning. Yeah, yeah, you win,
really winning, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So, you know we're talking about you know, how you're
growing up and all that. You know, sometimes as bully
a man, we can be very stubborn. You know, you
had those productive parents in your life, but you still
took an option to deal with streets as well.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So can you tell me about a.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Moment where when you were growing up where you were
hard headed and had to learn a valuable lesson the
hard way.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I was in Indiana at the time.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
My we went to Chicago, kicked it with my Pottners,
and you know, I really want supposed to be out there,
no way, but you know I went on and went
and then we had went to see these girls and
then uh, my buddy who Carby was in. It was
his my other partner's cousin, and we put up at
the girl's house next to you know, you know, we
(08:39):
in the wrong hood, you know, because you know I'm
from I'm from the jitty hood. So they there was
from the beady We was in the beaty hood, you
know what I'm saying. So they they seen us over there,
and you know, uh, they was like, yo, man, you
know my boy head just had cocked to the right
deep yeah man TV.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I'm like, man, don't do that over here. Bro, Like
you know what out right? Right?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
He like, man, you know, fuck THEMN man. I'm like,
all right, bro, I ain't got no hat on. I'm
all right, bro. So we so now they pull up
and when they pulled up, they like, hey, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Whoo who? Like where y'all from? Were like, shit, Joe,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I ain't say nothing. He was like shit, nigga dude
was like a nigga bead. My homie was like shit.
I was like, what you thought?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So he like, oh, no, I man, y'all ain't in
the wrong hood. He was like, what about you, I said,
he man, I'm just chilling, bro, you know what I'm saying.
I said, we can't see these chicks. Y'all got to
get the fuck on from right here. So then right,
so they left. But then when they left, the police
pulled up, and the police pulled up with our other.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Partner who drove with his dad in the car.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So the police the post my homeboy who Kai was in,
his dad was in the cap of the police.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
He jumped out the car.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
The dad jumped out the police car and was like
and all of a sudden, the my boy cousin hu
Kaby was in pure I'm like, yo, he was like,
but that my son. I'm like the man, he was like, here,
that's my son.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
This is my damn car.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm like, oh, this nigga took his daddy car. Though
this nigga took his daddy car. We ain't even know.
So we riding around the car and his daddy and
then already called in like God took yeah. So so
now we look real fucked up because the little bay
nigga's over there, was like.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yo, we don't want you all over here nowhere right right.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Like now, So now y'all really like, we on, y'all
ass now because y'all got twelve over here and got
a block that got the block house.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
So now boom.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So now you know what I'm saying. We looked up
me and my partner, he steady want to talk shit.
I'm like, bro, nah man. They was like, man, y'all
better get the fuck on. I was like, man, you
ready took off running. We though now were running, you
know what I'm saying. So now we here flack of
they busting, but we don't even know who they. We
don't know if he busting at us or they busting
at the cousin were just gone, I'm running, so we
(10:54):
run and then we ran to uh the uh. My
partner and his cousin used to work for this old man.
So now we in this old man garage. So I'm like, yo,
who cribs is? He was like, oh, Max to work
for him. He's like, I said, well, go knock on
the door.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Let him know we're in hell. You know what I'm saying.
He was like, no, we're straight. We're straight. So then
them niggas left out.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
And when they left out, I walked out and I
see them niggas on the damn ct A bus riding
they jumped on the bus left me. Well, now when
they left me, I'm coming out here come twelve.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I'm like this.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So I get locked up. Then when I got locked
up for it, you know what I'm saying, I had
to go to court. But my mama had already told me.
You know what I'm saying, what your dumb ass was
doing out there sucking with them anyway, So I go
to court. Then when I go to court, the old
man was like, I don't even know that young man,
y'all can let him go. He I knew who he
was with, so.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
He I don't even to the old The old shout
out to the old G. I don't know who it was.
I forgot his name. But the old G was like, nah, man,
y'all can let him go. Bro, I was in Cook County.
They locked my ass up. Did with he was lucky?
You got that? Yeah, they locked my ass up.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So they thought they they I ain't getting I didn't
get in no bullshit behind it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But that was a lesson that I learned.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
And then the other lesson I learned was when I
had kind of like made my mama so salty with
a god. I had a bad habit of like I
was class clown for one at school. But not only
was out a class clown, you know what I'm saying.
I would do shit like Friday because I played ball
and shit. So you know I had games on Friday,
shit like that. But instead of me coming home Friday,
(12:31):
I'm going to kick it with my partners and my
cousin at they crib for the weekend, right right.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
So so so I ain't even go back to the
crib until like Sunday, you know what I'm saying. So
I had to go to school.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
So my mama got tired of this shit, man, and
she threw my ass and this boys on for a
little while.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
So I was in the boys on. You know what
I'm saying. I had to stand in the boys on
for a little while. Man.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Then I finally, you know, I finally got it together,
you know what I'm saying. And I was like, man,
let me quit playing. So that that was it for me.
That was the last straw which mom threw threw me
and that boys on. I was like, she ain't.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Playing with my ad right, See, no games, you put
your ass out the dollar. It's a rap.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I'm like, I'm like probably like sixteen seventeen to MIAs
you fuck out.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Hearing me and the boys home, I was like, fuck, yeah, yeah, hey,
but you got it together. You know, I did hard.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
You had to learn the hard way, but you learned
a lot of us keep bumping out head over and
over until we're in the grave. Were in the jail
for twenty years, you know what I'm saying. So that's
dope that you figured it out, and a lot of
people tune in, like, look, if you already had some
hard times and you're still out here, you don't have
a lot of opportunities.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Don't let anymore pass you by, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
You know the crazy thing about it. The two cats
that I'm telling you all about. The one who stole
his daddy, k he dead now, and then the other
nigga got ninety five years.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
See real shit, The other.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Nigga got ninety five years for killing three dope things,
and then the other nigga dead.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Choices, Man, he's still here, you heel me still here? Crazy? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I was like damn when I when I found out
because my my career was kind of moving around. When
I fucked up by my boy catching that ninety five pack,
I'm like, damn, litenigg got ninety five years.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I'm like, what the fucking this? So I ended up
talking to him, you know what I mean? On the net.
He was like, yeah, man, I had to. I had to.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
They said I killed three three dope fiends. I'm like, damn, yeah,
that's horrible. That's horrible.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Now.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I'm also you know, with you moving around, I could
see that you collaborating with major culture pushes like Gilly
from million dollars worth of Game.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
No, man, shout out to Gilly and Wallow, that's my partner. Yeah,
that's what's uping man.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Now, how do you navigate and cultivate relationships like that?
Because a lot of people see you doing that, talking
like like how you even chopping.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It up with these people? Man? Because I've been in
the game so long, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
So you know that that being on one o six
apart ship back in the day when I was Freestyle
Friday Temp, I kind of got a chance to get
cool with a lot of execs at the labels, a
lot of as producers, Big Dog producers and a lot
of artists. You know what I'm saying, because you know,
especially somebody like Gilly. Like you know, Gilly was was popping,
(15:10):
rapping right him and his little squad major figures, for sure.
It was popping back in the day. So I had
I was going back, going back and forth to Philly,
and I was going to this studio called the Back
Cave in Philly, and every time I was going a
Gilly was in there. So I was like, damn, man,
you know what I'm saying, Gilly in this bitch. I'm like,
you know, So I just said, fuck it, you know
(15:31):
what I mean. I'm gonna get cool with him. So
I started going over.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
To his sessions and chopping up with him, like look,
and we just stayed linked. We stayed link.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Man, I've been doing Gilly about twenty years. Wow, you
know that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Also, we got this Ugly Money music summing going on.
How do you have attended one of these?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah? I don't always do it.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I do them every year because I have my own
stage at Universal Stage. I'll be running, you know what
I'm saying, So shout out my little brother man. Ugly
Money needs you for other money. Summit. Got my dog,
Jim Jones was gonna be through there, you know what
I'm saying. Shit like that, Now what do we what
can we kind of expect? This is my first one
going to so like what's the vibes?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Like the vibes is crazy?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Man, Like, this is the first time he moving it
Like it used to be at this spot called the
Atrium when it was like three clubs in one and
it's like three different stages. So you would have a
Man stage, you would have a Universal stage, and then
you would have another stage and I usually run the
Universal stage, and then it'll he have a little Boosy stage.
So everybody it'd be like a rotating theme where if
(16:33):
you end up in the top ten, you go to
the Man stage, or whoever end up in the from
out of the Universal stage might end up at going
to Boosy.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Got it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
And so it was just a situation where he kind
of rotated around. Here had Boosy one year people people
wanted to go see Boosy. Then the one year here
people go see Gunner. The one year here people go
see money Bag.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
So it was just given the opportunity for a lot
of artists to try to get to was you know
what I'm he locked in?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, he definitely locked in Man for Shure.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
So I'm gonna transition to this segment we have on
our show called Who You Rocking With? I'm gonna give
you two options. It don't mean you don't like the other.
Butt Like, Okay, I would listen to this person first,
I would listen or I would watch this show first.
Just let me know who you rocking with? So, who
you rocking with? Twenty one Savage or a little.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Dirt Dirt got to man Dirt home from Chicago.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I gotta rock with Dirt even though I fuck with Savage,
but I got a rock with Dirt Man.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah your home team, Yeah yeah, I hope he come
home some man free Dirt Man real for real? All right?
Who you rocking with? Young Dolph or Yo Gotti? Dolph Man?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Dolf fuck with Dolf Man, Nigga, don't understand how smart
doff a smart dude Man, Dolph Smart Dolph. I remember
Man because Dolphe did a record with my little brother Man.
They did a video and meniche and then I did
a couple of tours before then with Dolf. So that's
how I met Dolf and did a couple of tours
(18:07):
with Dolf and then for all and all man he
for his people, you know what I'm saying, Like he
he I remember they tried to offer him like twenty
two million or something.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
He turned it down. He was like, I'm straight, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
So he was, he was eating good, he was doing good.
And it's sad because I think that the hate is
what got him killed. It just was mad because they
couldn't stop him. Like damn this niggas, I'm around here
killing them, you know what I'm saying, putting people on.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So you know, l R, I p off Man for real,
for real, for real. They wanted a piece of what
he had going on. He didn't want to give it
to him.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Want to give it to him?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, I respect it though, all right, who you're rocking
with a million dollars worth of gang or drink Champs?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I got it. I gotta rock with Ghilly Man. I
gotta rock with him.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
A Willow means that even though I fucked with nory Man,
I like nor I liked with him and DJ and
I'm doing and f I'm.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Doing man, I like they doing. Man.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I like dream chaps a lot, you know what I'm saying,
But I gotta fuck with me, and that nigga out
with a.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Game is more versatile than I've seen a lot of
them that started off big like they. I got to
give a major salute to Gillian Wallow to how they maneuver.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
This media space. Many get they bringing sports.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Artists, they out the basketball, But you know what, I
knew that me and I worth a game was big
when I looked up and seeing baby Face Edmonds on
the show.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I seen nig got baby Face on her on the podcast, Yeah,
ken If Edmonds.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I was like, oh yeah, y'all y'all clowning, Yeah, yeah,
y'all baby.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Face Chris Brown, I'm like, yeah, yeah, Gilly shit. Yeah.
They're different, they shit different, bro different.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
But I really I really like the ship because you
could tell. You could tell that genuine and respect, genuine love.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
They not acting.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It ain't a scared like that's really them right if
you be with them right now, but the cameras off,
they the same way.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
The same way with each other, you know what I'm saying,
And that's why they successful.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Authentic hell and Wallow Wallow Man, I just like Wallowed
so much because Wallow Wallow kind of like he's so
he's bringing that emotion out.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
You like wall Wallow. It'll be times wyllod And talked
about ship though.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Damn tear it up, Yeah, because whyllo be for real
like he be meaning it, be meaning that ship like
it ain't a.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Joke to him.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
He'd be like bro like he one of the ones
that you could tell that They say prison is not
supposed to be They say prison is supposed to be rehabilitation, right,
even though a lot of times most most Kevin, they
got a prison, they end up going right back. Wallow
is the total definition of really got his mind trained
that he wanted to do better. He was determined to
(20:46):
do better, and he was determined to put people everybody
around him to do better. That's what he been on
and I respect that ship man.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean, that's that's what a definition of
real o G is there putting action, you know, something,
helping up. It is not being selfish, taken away from
other people. He's been pouring into other people in the
world been pouring.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Back into him.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
So in fact, some major respect to them fellas who
you're rocking with, Martin the Fresh Prince.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Martin Man. I fuck with Will, but I love Martin Man.
I like Martin Man, I like Martin. Yeah, yeah, he hilarious, hilarious.
Now you got this.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Big track out there right now, Man, Drip, can you
tell us a little bit about that?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Man? That shit going crazy right now. Man, it's called Drip.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Shout out Carter Block and Tea and the Bear my family.
Shout out Empire and Universal for the distribution and.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And the track light.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
It just reached like number fifty nine and the top
one hundreds on ATOO, and I got a whole remix
of it, man, with I just started leaking telling people
what it was. Want the remix with the remixes, Uh,
Gorilla Zoe.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
And two Chains, Oh man, that's gonna be hard.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
It's gonna be stupid, man. So you know, we're waiting
to get Two Chains stuff cleared so.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
We can go ahead and do what we do.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
But if nothing else, Joe already own it. We already
got Zo R locked in. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So it's the ship is crazy, man, It's yeah. I
seen you performing on the debut too.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, shout out to the debut, shout out to Point
and Navy Man, Little Booshie Daughter Man. Yeah, I hate
to go on there man one time for the one
time Man on the debut. It's a dope ass platform,
for sure. It's a dope platform. It's almost like some
American idol, like right, like some hip hop America idol
type of shit.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, And it's the energy
is so dope. So it is dope. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I love what they're doing over there too. We fans
Aday on the debut as well. Now, how can people
tap in and hear this single? Support what you got
going on?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Oh man?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
The single is everywhere on all the platforms right now,
and you can on Apple Music anything you can think
of it up there right now. And you can follow
me on Instagram, you know at bigg Underscore jigg and
that's on everything TikTok as well my YouTube channel, YouTube
dot com forward slash at b I G G A
(23:11):
j I G G all one word. I got a
new book coming out called JBT, which is the initial
of my government name, but the acronym is just breaking through.
Well I'm talking about you know all my adversities i'd
have been through, you know, from the time I started
the music ship till now. You know what I'm saying,
all the shit that it took me to get noticed,
(23:32):
get recognized, and all the obstacles that I went through
with you know, health, health problems, to surgeries to all
kinds of shit. Man, you know what I'm saying that
I haven't been through to to have to took bounce back,
you know what I'm saying. So you know, but then
like the last eight months, man, i'd have been through.
Uh Like, uh, I went through two, I went through
(23:55):
three major surgeries and uh get my son getting killed
on Labor Day. Oh man, I didn't know that eight
months I hear that, you know what I'm saying, That
shit went back to back, Like I had.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Surgery in.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
July and then I couldn't walk for like maybe two
or three months. Then I got Then I then I
started bagwalking once I got when they got me together.
As soon as I started bagwalking, not even a week
prior to me starting back get on my feet. My
son got shot in the head in Ohio. How old
was he eighteen?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
He had just finished school and everything. So I had
to go up there and really wasn't even one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Then I came back and then when I came back
home and September I had throw a big ass my
celeb birthday badge I threw every year. That shit was
sold out downtown and Buckhead and then and that was
then in the middle of October, and then January came,
I had, uh, I had to do a show January
(24:57):
thirty first, No February first, but I went to New
Orleans January thirty first to do the show February first.
So when I got to the walls at February first,
I was hurting so bad. I had to cancel out
and I was in the Airbnb, was hurting so bad
to cancel out the show and get them they praad
back and I ended up going to the hospital and
(25:17):
they was like, well, thank god, you can go to
do the show or go back to Atlanta because a
Penny's erupted. So I had to have major surgery, you know.
I had to go in and cut my abdomino open
and all that crazy shit. And I ended up staying
in the hospital from February first till March to sixth,
So I sat in up for like thirty four days.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, and then I can't.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Then I flew back home, and shit, I've been up
back at it ever since I got back home, even
though I wasn't opposed to, but I was like, man,
I can't, I gotta, I gotta keep going, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
So I'd have been through some shit, man, you know
what I'm saying. Definitely fast too, Like you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
This shit, all this shit I'm talking about was under
a year, right, under a year, man, you know what
I'm saying. You imagine going through three different surgeries, right,
and then you're losing your kid and still out here grind.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
That's shit crazy Yeah, yeah, it's still crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
And sometimes that grind is a coping mechanism to try
to keep your mind off of that pain like that.
And I know that's something because Gilly lost his child
in attractive ways like that as well.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Anything you got sure to call when it happened.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
When I imposed it, Gilly hit me like Bro, I said, Man,
I thought exactly how you feel, Bro.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It was crazy? Yeah, yeah,
well I definitely you know what I'm saying. Major condulecence
to that.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Man, can't nobody speak on to how that can feel.
And so someone that went through it, and hopefully if
you guys, relationship can help you guys keep your son's
name up in a in a high way, you know
what I'm saying, from that negativity, and also be a
message to other kids as well. But yeah, man, that
(26:55):
was that was dope. Also, I actually had a random
question to you. I had those random questions as well
on the show. I don't know if you've seen this
whole back and forth thing going on with Remy mind papus,
I didn't notice.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
That, man, Audio, I know it happened, Remy for real.
You know what I'm saying, I don't respect Rim though.
The only reason why I don't respect Rim because at
the end of the day, it no matter what you
said about Pap, Pap.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Still held you down. Man. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Papheads you down, Pap when it seen you every day
for a couple of years. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So you know, whatever you got going on and what
you're saying at this point, that don't even matter, man,
because I can't I can't imagine they even though Pap.
I feel like Pap upgraded by fucking I do. I
feel like I feel like he upgraded, But I know
that shit still probably hurt, oh for sure, saying because
come on, man, you've been holding somebody down, you know,
(27:44):
you know, and especially being a man, you already can't
have pride issues anyway, so you don't help somebody down
that long. And then they get out and they on
this ship and then Papped. The thing about it with
Papa is Pap been quiet the whole time, right, he
wass saying shit, right, so now he's just like, look,
I'm tired of hold and they fuck it like you
want to keep going there?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
And now I'm gonna say what I got to say.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
You know, now she's saying this ship so now, but
I don't want I don't want to see him going
to no back and forth shit with her, because what
she gonna do is start making him look corny exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
You know what I'm saying, women, because the.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Women fuck would Pap behind it behind the fact that
he held her down, right, So but I think him
going back and forth with her, if he don't stop it,
it's gonna make him look he needs to go and pull.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Out right and pull out.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
You got Clarissa, all right, you got to you got
the heavyweight Chapping of the world.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, yeah, she's bad to me. I think she's said, yeah, yeah,
she's bad. You know what I'm saying. You know she's younger.
You know, they can start a whole family together. I
think he's just go ahead, get a divorce done, go ahead,
move with your new layo. She seemed like she rocked
with you.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Also, she done went through u relationships where her engagement
didn't work. So she's gonna appreciate a man the solid
like him. He's proven, you know what I'm saying, So
he don't need nothing that's to prove he needs to
pull out their conversation. That's the only thing that I
saw recently. I'm like, yo, he don't need to go
back and forth.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Nah, I wouldn't go back and forth with her no
more cause you can tell she but her Yeah yeah
this is already but her. She looking at Clarissa like
claristal she nice piece. Yeah, got more money than you. Yeah,
she got probably more fans than you. Like the shorty
is doing way better than you. So like you know
what I mean, Like, I ain't Finnish go back and
forth with you. If this thing right here next to me, look,
(29:23):
ain't no, ain't no need at this speek for people be.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Volume right a right real for real man. But yeah, man,
it been a pleasure tapping in with you. Man, we
got a lot of game from you today. Everybody, make
sure you tune into what he got going on. Follow
him on all social media. I'm looking forward to seeing
you out there in the music Summing tomorrow show. Yeah yeah,
So until next time.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
You guys, hold it down, don't let it hold you.
You know, it is
Speaker 3 (29:51):
More than the pard It's a lifestyle like style style
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