Blueprints for Perfection: Unveiling Homebuilding Secrets and Mastering Interior Design - Episode 48
February 20, 2024 • 21 mins
Ever wondered how the construction world manages to nail every detail when building your dream home or renovating your cozy space? That's what I, Chris Kirby, dive into in our latest episode. As a seasoned owner of three construction companies, I pull back the curtain on the intricacies of homebuilding and remodeling. We tackle the essentials, from understanding lien waivers to the importance of assessing a contractor's work – a must-know if you're a DIY enthusiast, thinking about hiring a pro, or if you're in the industry yourself.
Then, we step into the creative universe of interior design, where inspiration meets pragmatism. I share the secrets behind designing spaces that not only reflect client dreams but also adapt to the ever-changing tides of product availability. We navigate through the challenges of product selection and tight timelines, especially crucial when dealing with fixed-end-date construction loans. Whether you're a future client or a fellow contractor, this episode is brimming with key insights to help you stay on top of your game and ensure the end result is as stunning as the vision that started it all.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Homebuilding and Remodeling Show.
Let's go.
Welcome everybody to theHomebuilding and Remodeling Show
.
My name is Chris Kirby and I'llbe your host.
(00:21):
I am the owner of threeconstruction companies on the
Alabama Gulf Coast.
The show is about residentialconstruction.
We're going to cover topics ofhomebuilding and remodeling.
Are you thinking of doing aremodel or building a home?
Are you a contractor looking toimprove your knowledge base or
grow your business?
Have you ever done a remodelproject or built a home?
(00:42):
There were so many things youwish you knew or that you could
have done differently during theprocess.
Then this show is for you.
We break down the process ofbuilding and remodeling and how
to have the best results duringyour project.
Whether you are a DIYer lookingfor tips, someone looking to
hire a contractor to do aproject, or a contractor looking
(01:04):
to expand your knowledge baseor your business, welcome aboard
.
Glad to have you.
Stay tuned.
We kick off the show with mythoughts on homebuilding and
remodeling.
I'll share best practices andtalk about some of our
experiences in business and outin the field.
These shared thoughts andlessons learned are meant to
help you on your very ownjourney.
(01:25):
Let's go.
Number 19 is can you provide awritten lean waiver.
Okay, so what is a lean and howcan it be performed by a
contractor?
So a contractor can put a lienagainst your property.
They can go to the courthouseand pay a certain amount to put
(01:48):
a contractor's lien or mechanicslien or there's some different
terms that are used in differentareas.
They can put a contractor'slien against your property for
non-payment.
It may be so understanding thatonce the work is done, if they
are paid out, they should writea written lien waiver saying
(02:12):
that we have no claim againstthis property anymore, we have
been paid in full and we aresatisfied.
They have satisfied theircontract and for the client, we
have satisfied our contract andthere is no reason for the
contractor to want to put a lienagainst the property.
Most of the time when thathappens, it's for non-payment
(02:35):
and understand the contractorhas every right.
Now, whether the reasoningbehind the non-payment and stuff
at this point is null and void,because you will have to take
that up, probably in court.
If there is an issue fornon-payment, you may have a
reason in your mind thatsomething didn't get complete or
(02:56):
something wasn't up to par, soyou decided that you were not
going to pay them out.
So it's their right to do alien and try to recoup that
money or time lost or whateverit is, and at that point there's
probably going to be more to it.
So number 20 is can you show meexamples of any similar projects
(03:17):
?
Okay, so this one's a littledifferent than question four,
which was have you worked onsimilar projects?
So number four is saying haveyou worked on similar projects?
Which means have you done akitchen?
If you're doing a kitchen, thisone is can you show me
completed work or examples ofin-work projects?
And the reason being okay, I'mnot the biggest fan, I'll put
(03:43):
this in here because it isimportant to ask, and some
contractors will beaccommodating and we'll show you
job sites.
But if they don't, don't takeit as a knock on the contractor
or that they're not proud oftheir work.
But there may be sensitivereasons, you know.
Maybe the homeowner doesn'twant you in their house.
But it is important to ask thatquestion because you never know
(04:05):
if they do have empty houses orempty job sites that you can
come and take a look, and thatis really one of the best ways
to determine how your project isgoing to be managed.
Maybe not turned out.
You know how it's going to turnout per se, because if you go
into an in-work projectsometimes remodeling, this is
(04:29):
remodeling, this is renovationso it's not always going to be,
you know, just a pretty project.
So the site is going to getugly sometimes and nasty and
you're going to, you know, havetrash and stuff like that.
However, that should be kind ofmanaged and you shouldn't
(04:50):
really you shouldn't walk onto ajob site and it totally be
trashed out bottles everywhere,cove cans or any of that type of
stuff.
So if that's going on, they'rebeing a little sloppy.
You can identify that and youhave a choice to make.
Well, you know it's.
Is it absorbing it?
Is it a lot, is it too much?
(05:11):
Is it something that you knowthat I want on my house or my
project and my?
You know the job site to lookwhen they're doing it for me,
and so, and then also you canlook for quality.
If you, if you want to go lookat an in-work job, you can go
and see who's working on it.
You can see, you know what thejob site sounds like, look like,
(05:31):
smells like, and you can makesure that you know you're really
vetting your contractor.
And then, from a contractor'sperspective again, if they don't
want you to come look at anin-work job site, there may be
many reasons for that, numberone being that the homeowner
Really doesn't want any morepeople in their house.
Or even if they're an awayhomeowner for you know, we get
(05:54):
that a lot down here on the GulfCoast where people aren't here
and we may be working on theirhouse.
They may be out of town, it maybe a condo, there's a number of
reasons, but they just don'twant a lot of traffic through
their house.
And so you know, sometimes thecontractor really just can't
show you an in-work project andthen, after the fact, a lot of
(06:17):
the times, people just reallywant to be left alone.
They may give the contractor agood review, but they don't want
a bunch of people coming bytheir house and stuff like that.
So you know, but it is a goodScreening tool and you know
again, not just can you show mesome in Completed projects,
right, but also it's you knowhow many have you done and you
(06:40):
know what their experience levelis.
Gauge that.
This is a great tool forgauging that.
And now we move into shop talk.
It's the portion of the showwhere I bring in a co-host and
we cover trending topics in homebuilding and remodeling.
Hope you enjoy.
Let's go I.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Knew I knew right then I hope this is what I
wanted to do.
Yeah, my last few years playing, I wasn't like, I was like half
in and out.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So what would you say to somebody then?
And if you know because I knowpersonally, I know a lot of kids
that that's it for them.
I'm balling, I'm gonna, I'mgoing to go to college for ball,
I'm going to get to the league,I hear that all the time.
But as my wife is assistantprincipal at Robberstale and so
we're very involved, we you knowand and we hear that, as these
(07:29):
kids are thinking that's, that'sit, so they're not taking some
of the other stuff serious,exactly, you know and I feel
like that's that's what you gotto come in and kind of play or
the like by those resources.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I think that's a dangerous space to be in.
Yeah, you know you tieeverything into one, something
like that.
You know that's your work,that's who you are.
You like that shit.
You know you, that becomes yourimage.
So when you don't have it, youhave a lot of people that just
crumble, you know.
I mean they feel worthless.
I don't feel like they gotnothing else to provide to the
world, to the community.
So I feel like that's adangerous mindset to have and
(08:02):
that we definitely should be onthe forefront right now.
I am anyway, yeah, to provideresources to these kids and,
like you know, open them up toother stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, and and, and that's where the encouragement
is, for, you know, the tradeschools, and especially here
we're about to get the new prepAcademy, um, but given the kids
that just necessarily ain'tbookworms or, you know, book
smart, but they've got, they'vegot to figure out a passion.
That's where the trade schoolscome in Very good.
(08:31):
That's where advocating for theconstruction trades and stuff
comes into play.
And I think, too, what Ryan'stalking about is hey, go hard on
the field or on the court, butdon't let that be your only
avenue.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Don't let that be.
Yeah, you gotta find out whoyou are, what you like.
I really went through that.
That's what I'm saying.
It wasn't as bad, but one day Ireally just sat down like damn,
who am I?
I decided this, especially whenI got ready to hang it up.
I'm like that's, who am I?
What do I like?
I didn't know, but I didn't doanything else Outside of I feel
(09:08):
like I like construction.
I like building, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'm investing in real estate, so it kind of just it
worked out that way.
I want to do this part of it.
Heck yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Is there any plan in the future for you as you're
growing your company and you'relearning more about what these
schools and programs are?
Is there going to be anyopportunities for people to kind
of give way to you, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I mean me and Stacey actually went down to Folder to
check out some of the work, likethe job Freddie had there.
I also have another profit thatI'm like reboot now and that's
what we're doing.
Oh yeah, it's the B's, flay's,charlie, that's it, impact 22.
So that's kind of my in-gametoo.
Not only is it a builder, butI'm here, I'm going to invest
(09:56):
here.
I like what Baldwin County isgrowing.
I know how it's growing and Ijust want to be a part of that
now.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, so okay, so let's pivot a little bit and
talk about advocacy and talkabout Impact 22.
I didn't know that, so let'stalk about what it is and how we
can get Impact 22 out there foryou.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
So that's what we did Last since 2020, I think we
started 19,.
We started it and we dofinancial liturities our main
thing and I just kind of we shipthis workforce development and
provide resources for that.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Okay, yeah, connecting them because and I'm
so glad we're on this topic youcan test to this when you went
from school to the NFL, you gota contract, right, and everybody
(10:54):
don't understand, like when youget that money, what to do with
it, right, and that financialliteracy piece, now did they
have people when you went intothe league that would talk or
how?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
no-transcript.
You have like the basic stuffthat they bring out, but not in
depth, it's not nearly.
It's not what it should be.
You know what I'm saying?
I feel like it should be reallylike driven in and it shouldn't
.
At that point, when you're anadult, it don't matter to them,
like so I don't blame it.
I feel like.
I feel like it's gotta belearned at a young age.
Like so I got you.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And these kids were like this was in your ear when
you were in high school, whenyou were, you know, and you were
being hey, you gotta be smart.
Here's the basics of money.
Is that what you're doing?
Right, right, right.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Just providing those resources.
You know what I mean.
Like that's what impact 22 isabout.
You know, bridging that gap.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And making sure that, even if they do and that's the
thing I think you know havingyou can't have a zero mindset
where you're just focused on onething laser sharp and you can't
talk about finances or youdon't have time to, you know,
look at anything else, becauseeven if you do make it to the
(12:09):
league, it only lasts everythree years two, three years, so
you have a long time to live.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
After that, even if you played 10 years, you still
were 35 and you get out 34 andyou got a lot of life left.
So you got to really justfigure out who you are.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Absolutely.
So we're gonna talk more aboutimpact 22,.
And then we're definitely gonnacatch back up with you, man,
sure for sure.
And I'm glad you came on,because we just found out of
this before and I truly believeit and I think it was just being
in the Navy and seeing thediversity and how that diversity
(12:47):
drove success and stuff likethat.
And you know we believerepresentation matters, and so
for somebody like you to come onand talk to our audience, where
it is heavy, you know, heavilydiverse and Hispanic black in
the construction industry, forthem to know that you're doing
(13:08):
impact 22, that you are in theconstruction industry even after
going to the league, but thisis what you choose to do, right?
I think that's amazing, itspeaks volumes to your character
and we really appreciate youcoming on.
I appreciate y'all having meman.
Yes, sir, all right, we'll seeyou next time.
And then we'll catch back upwith Ryan and we're definitely
(13:29):
gonna have him on the show againand we'll talk a little bit
more about his nonprofit impact22.
And then we'll talk about 22builds and maybe check on the
development he's got going on.
So so appreciate you.
Now we're gonna move into theportion of the show where we
talk interior design.
(13:50):
We're gonna bring in aninterior designer and we're
gonna talk trending design andproducts.
Hope you enjoy.
Let's go.
You looking, you're looking atthe space too, right?
And then you've done that.
You've looked at the space,you've taken your notes, you've
talked to the client.
(14:10):
Now it's time to come back tothe office and start putting it
together.
So talk to me about putting ittogether.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
With the boards, and so I like to.
I spend a lot of time on minebecause I want them.
If they really, really like it,I want them to be able to go
buy that product immediately.
So I'm not just officiallythrowing things out, Gotcha,
Just give them, cause they dohave vision boards too.
Some people call them visionboards.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Vision boards.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
But I'm not just trying to give you a vision, I'm
trying to give you somethingthat you can actually.
That's reality.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
What you're saying is when you're doing your mood
boards.
There are quick mood boardsthere are.
A way to do it quickly, but youtend to take your time and put
stuff that they can actuallyclick the link or go and buy.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Right, right, I can already have a price on it.
I know immediately that fitstheir budget and that's
important, because if I addthings that are crazy amount of
money and that's not in theirbudget, they're gonna be like
why did you even show me that?
That's yet even a reality.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
And now I'm glad you said that tip Like that.
That is a good tip of the dayright there, as an interior
designer, is making sure thatyou understand the budget Right
Because, like you said, peoplewill get aggravated if you have
been given a budget right andyou're showing them things
(15:32):
outside of the budget.
And I've seen salesmen or saleswomen do that and they do it on
purpose.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
And it really rubs people the wrong way.
Where they may be conditionbased or whatever it is, for
whatever reason, theyimmediately are showing stuff
outside of the budget.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
And if they're turned off or they see something that
maybe I have put on there andthey're like, well, we wanted
something a little fancier, thenI can say, well, that is
probably gonna be $100 more or200.
I can raise the bar in thatmoment, but I feel like at least
it gives them a starting pointto whatever budget they were
wanting to stay.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Well, not only that, though.
Sometimes you get the reverse,where you put together the mood
board, they're happy.
They come into our showroom andstart looking around and say,
oh, show me this in face to face, and then they see the nicer or
something that they just want,right.
And then that's when you havethe conversation of if it's,
(16:30):
maybe it does fit well with theproject, but it is over your
budget and some people.
Then they just want it andthey're like I will pay more
Exactly, which is different thanRight, and they have done that,
and Kyle really I would saymore than anything really sucks
them in fast.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
If they find a pretty tile, they're willing to.
Just we'll do everything aroundthat just so I can have that
tile.
If I had to go cheaper onhardware or wherever, that
happens a lot too.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You said I'll do everything around that.
Is there a central focus whenyou're planning a room?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I think it depends on the client, because everybody
has different Breakfast peak,because sometimes you're working
with items that were given tothem, either deceased parent or-
.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So it actually is a focal point and could help start
the theme or the concept of thedesign.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Or if they're an antique collector.
I'm not gonna go in there withcontemporary modern ideas, so we
kind of have to-.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
And that's where the experience factor plays a big
part, because there should neverreally be a no and I can't do
it.
It's a do you have theexperience enough to work with
the canvas?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
And I mentioned that the other day too.
There's been very few projectswhere, 100% of it, I've been
like I would have done thisexact thing in my own health,
because everybody has differenttastes and everybody has
different whatever so likes andinterests and so and anyway.
But you have to work with theclient and give them what they
(18:04):
want and make it whereeverybody's happy.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And then moving on from mood boards to some of the
current projects that we have inwork, because you are actually
in work on mood boards forprojects how does the dust can a
mood board evolve?
So your original concept, canthat evolve to something?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
different.
After the console I'll put aboard together At that point.
It's a lot of communication,mainly over the phone, narrowing
down their lights, or I'll goahead and meet with them in
person at a stone yard orcountertop.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
So there's some.
It's like you're physicallygoing shopping and things right.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
And then we'll have another meeting, another follow
up after that concept board,mood board is put together again
and then at that time we can gothrough it, make sure it's
everything they want, or ifthere's some changes that they
wanna make, it's I just X-ModelOlivia.
Phone's usually closed.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
And then you gotta finalize the concept.
Now let's talk about orderingand implementation.
Right, we've run into this,where we had the concept, it
changed.
Now you've got a new mood boardand then you go to shop for
items because, like you said,you put a clickable link on
there and maybe between time nowcorrect me if I'm wrong, but
(19:30):
that was month one that you didthe concept.
Month three you've changed alittle bit.
Month four that item's out ofstock, right?
So you finally settle with theclient and then you gotta have a
backup.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Right, I'm normally doing the new builds, so that
does allow me for the graceperiod there.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
first, Sure, those are periods, right, you make
selections at certain periods inthe build.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Right.
So from point A to C orwhatever, I've got months right,
two, three months in betweenthere before I'm ordering
anything.
So I can.
But what I do is I sporadicallycheck on those products that we
have to get in the lead time.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Step two as you're doing your mood board,
especially if you're on a longerproject, you need to
continually check on the productitself and make sure it's still
in stock or the lead time rightso you may have the item in
stock.
However, it doesn't ship formonths and if you're at a point
(20:35):
in a new build, we're movingbecause once we pass a certain
level of inspection, there is atimeline on this.
Once you're done with four-wayand you start getting to the
cosmetic work, you're finalizingthe project, because the client
, if they're doing financing orconstruction loan, they really
do have a cap.
They've got to be in by acertain date and sometimes the
(20:58):
design can get lost in just thetimeliness of the project.
Thanks for joining us today.
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(21:22):
And, as always, remember who weare the Homebuilding and
Remodeling Show, music playing.
The Homebuilding and Remodeling Show.
Let's go.
Welcome everybody to theHomebuilding and Remodeling Show
.
My name is Chris Kirby and I'llbe your host.
(00:21):
I am the owner of threeconstruction companies on the
Alabama Gulf Coast.
The show is about residentialconstruction.
We're going to cover topics ofhomebuilding and remodeling.
Are you thinking of doing aremodel or building a home?
Are you a contractor looking toimprove your knowledge base or
grow your business?
Have you ever done a remodelproject or built a home?
(00:42):
There were so many things youwish you knew or that you could
have done differently during theprocess.
Then this show is for you.
We break down the process ofbuilding and remodeling and how
to have the best results duringyour project.
Whether you are a DIYer lookingfor tips, someone looking to
hire a contractor to do aproject, or a contractor looking
(01:04):
to expand your knowledge baseor your business, welcome aboard
.
Glad to have you.
Stay tuned.
We kick off the show with mythoughts on homebuilding and
remodeling.
I'll share best practices andtalk about some of our
experiences in business and outin the field.
These shared thoughts andlessons learned are meant to
help you on your very ownjourney.
(01:25):
Let's go.
Number 19 is can you provide awritten lean waiver.
Okay, so what is a lean and howcan it be performed by a
contractor?
So a contractor can put a lienagainst your property.
They can go to the courthouseand pay a certain amount to put
(01:48):
a contractor's lien or mechanicslien or there's some different
terms that are used in differentareas.
They can put a contractor'slien against your property for
non-payment.
It may be so understanding thatonce the work is done, if they
are paid out, they should writea written lien waiver saying
(02:12):
that we have no claim againstthis property anymore, we have
been paid in full and we aresatisfied.
They have satisfied theircontract and for the client, we
have satisfied our contract andthere is no reason for the
contractor to want to put a lienagainst the property.
Most of the time when thathappens, it's for non-payment
(02:35):
and understand the contractorhas every right.
Now, whether the reasoningbehind the non-payment and stuff
at this point is null and void,because you will have to take
that up, probably in court.
If there is an issue fornon-payment, you may have a
reason in your mind thatsomething didn't get complete or
(02:56):
something wasn't up to par, soyou decided that you were not
going to pay them out.
So it's their right to do alien and try to recoup that
money or time lost or whateverit is, and at that point there's
probably going to be more to it.
So number 20 is can you show meexamples of any similar projects
(03:17):
?
Okay, so this one's a littledifferent than question four,
which was have you worked onsimilar projects?
So number four is saying haveyou worked on similar projects?
Which means have you done akitchen?
If you're doing a kitchen, thisone is can you show me
completed work or examples ofin-work projects?
And the reason being okay, I'mnot the biggest fan, I'll put
(03:43):
this in here because it isimportant to ask, and some
contractors will beaccommodating and we'll show you
job sites.
But if they don't, don't takeit as a knock on the contractor
or that they're not proud oftheir work.
But there may be sensitivereasons, you know.
Maybe the homeowner doesn'twant you in their house.
But it is important to ask thatquestion because you never know
(04:05):
if they do have empty houses orempty job sites that you can
come and take a look, and thatis really one of the best ways
to determine how your project isgoing to be managed.
Maybe not turned out.
You know how it's going to turnout per se, because if you go
into an in-work projectsometimes remodeling, this is
(04:29):
remodeling, this is renovationso it's not always going to be,
you know, just a pretty project.
So the site is going to getugly sometimes and nasty and
you're going to, you know, havetrash and stuff like that.
However, that should be kind ofmanaged and you shouldn't
(04:50):
really you shouldn't walk onto ajob site and it totally be
trashed out bottles everywhere,cove cans or any of that type of
stuff.
So if that's going on, they'rebeing a little sloppy.
You can identify that and youhave a choice to make.
Well, you know it's.
Is it absorbing it?
Is it a lot, is it too much?
(05:11):
Is it something that you knowthat I want on my house or my
project and my?
You know the job site to lookwhen they're doing it for me,
and so, and then also you canlook for quality.
If you, if you want to go lookat an in-work job, you can go
and see who's working on it.
You can see, you know what thejob site sounds like, look like,
(05:31):
smells like, and you can makesure that you know you're really
vetting your contractor.
And then, from a contractor'sperspective again, if they don't
want you to come look at anin-work job site, there may be
many reasons for that, numberone being that the homeowner
Really doesn't want any morepeople in their house.
Or even if they're an awayhomeowner for you know, we get
(05:54):
that a lot down here on the GulfCoast where people aren't here
and we may be working on theirhouse.
They may be out of town, it maybe a condo, there's a number of
reasons, but they just don'twant a lot of traffic through
their house.
And so you know, sometimes thecontractor really just can't
show you an in-work project andthen, after the fact, a lot of
(06:17):
the times, people just reallywant to be left alone.
They may give the contractor agood review, but they don't want
a bunch of people coming bytheir house and stuff like that.
So you know, but it is a goodScreening tool and you know
again, not just can you show mesome in Completed projects,
right, but also it's you knowhow many have you done and you
(06:40):
know what their experience levelis.
Gauge that.
This is a great tool forgauging that.
And now we move into shop talk.
It's the portion of the showwhere I bring in a co-host and
we cover trending topics in homebuilding and remodeling.
Hope you enjoy.
Let's go I.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Knew I knew right then I hope this is what I
wanted to do.
Yeah, my last few years playing, I wasn't like, I was like half
in and out.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So what would you say to somebody then?
And if you know because I knowpersonally, I know a lot of kids
that that's it for them.
I'm balling, I'm gonna, I'mgoing to go to college for ball,
I'm going to get to the league,I hear that all the time.
But as my wife is assistantprincipal at Robberstale and so
we're very involved, we you knowand and we hear that, as these
(07:29):
kids are thinking that's, that'sit, so they're not taking some
of the other stuff serious,exactly, you know and I feel
like that's that's what you gotto come in and kind of play or
the like by those resources.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I think that's a dangerous space to be in.
Yeah, you know you tieeverything into one, something
like that.
You know that's your work,that's who you are.
You like that shit.
You know you, that becomes yourimage.
So when you don't have it, youhave a lot of people that just
crumble, you know.
I mean they feel worthless.
I don't feel like they gotnothing else to provide to the
world, to the community.
So I feel like that's adangerous mindset to have and
(08:02):
that we definitely should be onthe forefront right now.
I am anyway, yeah, to provideresources to these kids and,
like you know, open them up toother stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, and and, and that's where the encouragement
is, for, you know, the tradeschools, and especially here
we're about to get the new prepAcademy, um, but given the kids
that just necessarily ain'tbookworms or, you know, book
smart, but they've got, they'vegot to figure out a passion.
That's where the trade schoolscome in Very good.
(08:31):
That's where advocating for theconstruction trades and stuff
comes into play.
And I think, too, what Ryan'stalking about is hey, go hard on
the field or on the court, butdon't let that be your only
avenue.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Don't let that be.
Yeah, you gotta find out whoyou are, what you like.
I really went through that.
That's what I'm saying.
It wasn't as bad, but one day Ireally just sat down like damn,
who am I?
I decided this, especially whenI got ready to hang it up.
I'm like that's, who am I?
What do I like?
I didn't know, but I didn't doanything else Outside of I feel
(09:08):
like I like construction.
I like building, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'm investing in real estate, so it kind of just it
worked out that way.
I want to do this part of it.
Heck yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Is there any plan in the future for you as you're
growing your company and you'relearning more about what these
schools and programs are?
Is there going to be anyopportunities for people to kind
of give way to you, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I mean me and Stacey actually went down to Folder to
check out some of the work, likethe job Freddie had there.
I also have another profit thatI'm like reboot now and that's
what we're doing.
Oh yeah, it's the B's, flay's,charlie, that's it, impact 22.
So that's kind of my in-gametoo.
Not only is it a builder, butI'm here, I'm going to invest
(09:56):
here.
I like what Baldwin County isgrowing.
I know how it's growing and Ijust want to be a part of that
now.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, so okay, so let's pivot a little bit and
talk about advocacy and talkabout Impact 22.
I didn't know that, so let'stalk about what it is and how we
can get Impact 22 out there foryou.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
So that's what we did Last since 2020, I think we
started 19,.
We started it and we dofinancial liturities our main
thing and I just kind of we shipthis workforce development and
provide resources for that.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Okay, yeah, connecting them because and I'm
so glad we're on this topic youcan test to this when you went
from school to the NFL, you gota contract, right, and everybody
(10:54):
don't understand, like when youget that money, what to do with
it, right, and that financialliteracy piece, now did they
have people when you went intothe league that would talk or
how?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
no-transcript.
You have like the basic stuffthat they bring out, but not in
depth, it's not nearly.
It's not what it should be.
You know what I'm saying?
I feel like it should be reallylike driven in and it shouldn't
.
At that point, when you're anadult, it don't matter to them,
like so I don't blame it.
I feel like.
I feel like it's gotta belearned at a young age.
Like so I got you.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And these kids were like this was in your ear when
you were in high school, whenyou were, you know, and you were
being hey, you gotta be smart.
Here's the basics of money.
Is that what you're doing?
Right, right, right.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Just providing those resources.
You know what I mean.
Like that's what impact 22 isabout.
You know, bridging that gap.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And making sure that, even if they do and that's the
thing I think you know havingyou can't have a zero mindset
where you're just focused on onething laser sharp and you can't
talk about finances or youdon't have time to, you know,
look at anything else, becauseeven if you do make it to the
(12:09):
league, it only lasts everythree years two, three years, so
you have a long time to live.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
After that, even if you played 10 years, you still
were 35 and you get out 34 andyou got a lot of life left.
So you got to really justfigure out who you are.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Absolutely.
So we're gonna talk more aboutimpact 22,.
And then we're definitely gonnacatch back up with you, man,
sure for sure.
And I'm glad you came on,because we just found out of
this before and I truly believeit and I think it was just being
in the Navy and seeing thediversity and how that diversity
(12:47):
drove success and stuff likethat.
And you know we believerepresentation matters, and so
for somebody like you to come onand talk to our audience, where
it is heavy, you know, heavilydiverse and Hispanic black in
the construction industry, forthem to know that you're doing
(13:08):
impact 22, that you are in theconstruction industry even after
going to the league, but thisis what you choose to do, right?
I think that's amazing, itspeaks volumes to your character
and we really appreciate youcoming on.
I appreciate y'all having meman.
Yes, sir, all right, we'll seeyou next time.
And then we'll catch back upwith Ryan and we're definitely
(13:29):
gonna have him on the show againand we'll talk a little bit
more about his nonprofit impact22.
And then we'll talk about 22builds and maybe check on the
development he's got going on.
So so appreciate you.
Now we're gonna move into theportion of the show where we
talk interior design.
(13:50):
We're gonna bring in aninterior designer and we're
gonna talk trending design andproducts.
Hope you enjoy.
Let's go.
You looking, you're looking atthe space too, right?
And then you've done that.
You've looked at the space,you've taken your notes, you've
talked to the client.
(14:10):
Now it's time to come back tothe office and start putting it
together.
So talk to me about putting ittogether.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
With the boards, and so I like to.
I spend a lot of time on minebecause I want them.
If they really, really like it,I want them to be able to go
buy that product immediately.
So I'm not just officiallythrowing things out, Gotcha,
Just give them, cause they dohave vision boards too.
Some people call them visionboards.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Vision boards.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
But I'm not just trying to give you a vision, I'm
trying to give you somethingthat you can actually.
That's reality.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
What you're saying is when you're doing your mood
boards.
There are quick mood boardsthere are.
A way to do it quickly, but youtend to take your time and put
stuff that they can actuallyclick the link or go and buy.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Right, right, I can already have a price on it.
I know immediately that fitstheir budget and that's
important, because if I addthings that are crazy amount of
money and that's not in theirbudget, they're gonna be like
why did you even show me that?
That's yet even a reality.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
And now I'm glad you said that tip Like that.
That is a good tip of the dayright there, as an interior
designer, is making sure thatyou understand the budget Right
Because, like you said, peoplewill get aggravated if you have
been given a budget right andyou're showing them things
(15:32):
outside of the budget.
And I've seen salesmen or saleswomen do that and they do it on
purpose.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
And it really rubs people the wrong way.
Where they may be conditionbased or whatever it is, for
whatever reason, theyimmediately are showing stuff
outside of the budget.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
And if they're turned off or they see something that
maybe I have put on there andthey're like, well, we wanted
something a little fancier, thenI can say, well, that is
probably gonna be $100 more or200.
I can raise the bar in thatmoment, but I feel like at least
it gives them a starting pointto whatever budget they were
wanting to stay.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Well, not only that, though.
Sometimes you get the reverse,where you put together the mood
board, they're happy.
They come into our showroom andstart looking around and say,
oh, show me this in face to face, and then they see the nicer or
something that they just want,right.
And then that's when you havethe conversation of if it's,
(16:30):
maybe it does fit well with theproject, but it is over your
budget and some people.
Then they just want it andthey're like I will pay more
Exactly, which is different thanRight, and they have done that,
and Kyle really I would saymore than anything really sucks
them in fast.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
If they find a pretty tile, they're willing to.
Just we'll do everything aroundthat just so I can have that
tile.
If I had to go cheaper onhardware or wherever, that
happens a lot too.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You said I'll do everything around that.
Is there a central focus whenyou're planning a room?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I think it depends on the client, because everybody
has different Breakfast peak,because sometimes you're working
with items that were given tothem, either deceased parent or-
.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So it actually is a focal point and could help start
the theme or the concept of thedesign.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Or if they're an antique collector.
I'm not gonna go in there withcontemporary modern ideas, so we
kind of have to-.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
And that's where the experience factor plays a big
part, because there should neverreally be a no and I can't do
it.
It's a do you have theexperience enough to work with
the canvas?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
And I mentioned that the other day too.
There's been very few projectswhere, 100% of it, I've been
like I would have done thisexact thing in my own health,
because everybody has differenttastes and everybody has
different whatever so likes andinterests and so and anyway.
But you have to work with theclient and give them what they
(18:04):
want and make it whereeverybody's happy.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And then moving on from mood boards to some of the
current projects that we have inwork, because you are actually
in work on mood boards forprojects how does the dust can a
mood board evolve?
So your original concept, canthat evolve to something?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
different.
After the console I'll put aboard together At that point.
It's a lot of communication,mainly over the phone, narrowing
down their lights, or I'll goahead and meet with them in
person at a stone yard orcountertop.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
So there's some.
It's like you're physicallygoing shopping and things right.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
And then we'll have another meeting, another follow
up after that concept board,mood board is put together again
and then at that time we can gothrough it, make sure it's
everything they want, or ifthere's some changes that they
wanna make, it's I just X-ModelOlivia.
Phone's usually closed.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
And then you gotta finalize the concept.
Now let's talk about orderingand implementation.
Right, we've run into this,where we had the concept, it
changed.
Now you've got a new mood boardand then you go to shop for
items because, like you said,you put a clickable link on
there and maybe between time nowcorrect me if I'm wrong, but
(19:30):
that was month one that you didthe concept.
Month three you've changed alittle bit.
Month four that item's out ofstock, right?
So you finally settle with theclient and then you gotta have a
backup.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Right, I'm normally doing the new builds, so that
does allow me for the graceperiod there.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
first, Sure, those are periods, right, you make
selections at certain periods inthe build.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Right.
So from point A to C orwhatever, I've got months right,
two, three months in betweenthere before I'm ordering
anything.
So I can.
But what I do is I sporadicallycheck on those products that we
have to get in the lead time.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Step two as you're doing your mood board,
especially if you're on a longerproject, you need to
continually check on the productitself and make sure it's still
in stock or the lead time rightso you may have the item in
stock.
However, it doesn't ship formonths and if you're at a point
(20:35):
in a new build, we're movingbecause once we pass a certain
level of inspection, there is atimeline on this.
Once you're done with four-wayand you start getting to the
cosmetic work, you're finalizingthe project, because the client
, if they're doing financing orconstruction loan, they really
do have a cap.
They've got to be in by acertain date and sometimes the
(20:58):
design can get lost in just thetimeliness of the project.
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