September 9, 2025 • 29 mins
Have you ever stood in front of a home project, tool in hand, and felt that paralyzing fear of making a mistake? Shannon Evans, DIY expert and star of HGTV's Renovation Resort, knows that feeling all too well—and she's here to help you push past it.
In this illuminating conversation with host Chris Kirby, Shannon reveals how growing up in a family where her father ran a plumbing company for over 45 years and her mother was constantly crafting shaped her belief that anything could be fixed or created with your own two hands. "I really didn't know people hired people to fix things," she admits with a laugh. "I just thought you went out and fixed it yourself."
Shannon's journey from someone who loved working with her hands to an HGTV personality wasn't planned or linear. She encourages listeners to embrace the title of "maker" rather than limiting themselves with traditional labels like "builder" or "contractor." This simple mindset shift opens endless possibilities for creation—whether you're building furniture, installing cabinets, or simply fixing something that's broken.
What truly sets this conversation apart is Shannon's refreshing honesty about her own limitations. She freely admits she's not a designer or stylist but understands how homes should function and feel. This authenticity has endeared her to audiences who appreciate seeing someone who doesn't claim to know everything but is willing to learn along the way. As she puts it, "Do little projects at a time until you feel comfortable picking up a tool and building bigger and bigger things."
Ready to start your own maker journey? Follow Shannon on Instagram at "made by Shannon Evans," catch her on HGTV's Renovation Resort Showdown, or email us at thehomebuildingshow@gmail.com to share your story or ask questions. Remember, the most important step is simply giving yourself permission to begin.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Home Building and Remodeling Show.
Let's go.
Welcome everybody to the HomeBuilding and Remodeling Show.
My name is Chris Kirby and I'llbe your host.
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I am the owner of threeconstruction companies on the
Alabama Gulf Coast.
The show is about residentialconstruction.
We're going to cover topics ofhome building and remodeling.
Are you thinking of doing aremodel or building a home?
Are you a contractor looking toimprove your knowledge base or
grow your business?
Have you ever done a remodelproject or built a home?
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There were so many things youwish you knew or that you could
have done differently during theprocess.
Then this show is for you.
We break down the process ofbuilding and remodeling and how
to have the best results duringyour project.
Whether you're a DIYer lookingfor tips, someone looking to
hire a contractor to do aproject or a contractor looking
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to expand your knowledge base oryour business, Welcome aboard.
Glad to have you.
Stay tuned.
All right, what's up guys?
We're back this week again withShannon Evans.
She's a DIY expert and builder.
She joins the show to share herexperience on places like
HGTV's Renovation Resort Justkind of listening to what she's
done and what she's been throughand her journey of being a
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maker what she would call amaker has been excellent for a
lot of you who are looking to dothe same type of thing, and
this community is verysupportive.
We post so much stuff, so manyhow-to videos, so many podcast
clips and different videos of ustalking about the show and
different things that we'redoing in home building and
remodeling and the DIY journeythat some of you all have.
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Some of the guests that aregoing to be coming on have a
very different journey.
Everybody isn't just atraditional builder or a
traditional remodeler, but theyhave a lot of value add
information, and so I'm lookingforward to those experiences.
After Shannon goes, we haveSarah Trump, who you know.
One of the things that I lovethat Shannon talks about on our
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show is the fact that she wasable to come down here and learn
from our company, and that's anopen opportunity for any of you
who listen to our podcast andwant to share your journey or
want to learn and grow.
We actually took her around tosome job sites while she was
here.
We had a whole home remodelthat we were doing and she
walked through, talked with theclient, but, more importantly,
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she was able to ask our peoplewho are in the field Jeremiah
and some others hands-onquestions about tile, how they
were installing it, why theywere doing what they were doing
to install the tile, and it wasso cool to see our team actually
answer those questions andtrain her.
And then it was so awesome tosee her be able to ask those
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questions and get real lifeexperience and be able to answer
those questions that she couldtake back and use on her journey
.
And the workshops andeverything that we do in our
company are open to any of youwho listen to our podcast.
We're based in Alabama.
We're on the Alabama Gulf Coast.
You are more than welcome tocome down and hang out with us,
spend the day with us, go aroundthe jobs with us home builds,
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remodels, additions, whatever itis that we're doing, Even some
of the design stuff that we doand some of those journeys, we'd
love to share those with you onthe show.
And you too can be like Shannonand start your own journey.
Or, if you are hesitant in apart of your journey, right,
just as contractors, we don'tknow it all.
So I encourage you to reach outto us via email or you know,
(03:40):
once we're a little morecomfortable, I actually do hand
out my phone number so you guyscan call guys and girls can call
me and Facebook messenger.
I use social media a lot butyou know, reach out to the home
building show at gmailcom andask your questions far away.
Don't be out there trying to dostuff and be hesitant or scared
to ask questions.
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We want you to ask questions.
We want you to share yourjourney.
Come on the show.
Whether you're a home builder,whether you're a novice just
getting started right, itdoesn't really matter.
Ask those questions.
We love this content.
We love sharing knowledge.
We learn so much.
We don't have all the answers,but we love to talk about the
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topic, share the knowledge, talkabout being a contractor and
make sure that other contractorsdo better, because they're
listening to our stories,they're listening to the
mistakes we've made and we'resharing those experiences
honestly and openly.
Please watch our how to's andour daily updates via video,
because we put out a lot ofinformation about projects and
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especially process in thosevideos.
So make sure you're following.
And as we continue this weekwith Shannon's journey, please
tune in, listen to what Shannonhas to say.
She is somebody who is going tocontinue to grow her presence
in the world of home building,remodeling, DIY.
She calls herself a maker.
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I think she's an incredibleperson, an incredible friend,
and she definitely will addvalue to your life, not only in
the building world.
I appreciate her lifeexperience and some of the
stories that she shares.
I hope that you, too, willenjoy listening to her, and
don't be afraid to share yourjourney.
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Reach out to usthehomebuildingshowatgmailcom.
I am very passionate about whatwe do and I wanna get your story
out there.
So if you've got a story, shareit with us.
Come on the show, come on thepodcast.
Start your journey.
Ask me how to start a podcast.
Ask me how to start videoing.
What do we use?
Products, tools, all of thatstuff Ask.
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Do not hesitate to ask Again.
Tune in.
Look forward to you reachingout to us and I look forward to
sharing more stories, just likeShannon's, and helping people,
and hopefully you will be thenext one to come on the show.
Thanks, Welcome to Shop Talk,the segment where we bring in a
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co-host or special guest andjust chop it up about home
building, remodeling and DIY.
This is where stories getshared, lessons get learned and
we dive into the real side ofthe craft straight from the
people living it every day.
Put your hands on, don't bescared.
So if you're, if you'rewatching this and you're
watching Shannon or you gofollow her.
(06:32):
You know, sometimes it's assimple as just getting up and
doing it.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Doing it.
Yeah, and it's funny there's somany areas of what I do Like
people are like.
When someone says like, oh,what do you do for a living or
what do you, I can't give you atitle.
If I say builder, then you'vealready put me in this like box.
Right now I'm a builder.
Now I build homes.
No, I might build a piece offurniture, I might build a
cabinet, I might you know.
So it's like I almost feel likeif more people realize the DIY
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world in itself, like whetherit's home improvement expert or
DIY expert or all the milliontitles they give me on that show
, at the end of the day I'm acreator in my own way, where I'm
using my hands to take rawproduct and move it into
something that's useful orbeautiful.
And it's not just aboutbuilding homes.
And I think a lot of peoplejust kind of steer clear of that
(07:18):
because they hear builder andthey think like I'm going to
build a home.
That's insane.
And it's like, no, justdigestible pieces.
Do little projects at a timeuntil you feel comfortable
picking up a tool and buildingbigger and bigger and bigger.
And I'm not even there yet,right, like I'm still at a point
where I know I can get biggerand build bigger things and do
bigger things, but I'm stilllearning.
You have to learn the thingslike you're teaching the little
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things, because you don't do allthose little things, how can
you get out there and do a wholehouse, or you know, it's just.
It's wild to me how many peoplejust don't understand how many
areas that they can get into.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, absolutely that was jumping into.
Just yeah, building a home.
Now I do have a home builderfemale home builder friend of
mine that does great work.
She owns Lemongrass CustomHomes and she's going to come on
and she is a builder.
She has been building for over20 years and that's what she
does.
She does wonderful work and hasso much more knowledge than I
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do.
She's amazing and I love that.
You know that she's going to beable to come on and inspire and
share her story.
It's all the things you know,starting from the basic
principles of dealing with thetools right, learning that
process and then just gettingout there to make stuff.
And if you follow Shannon,you'll be able to follow that
journey and see some of thestuff that she makes and some of
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the stuff that she does.
But where did it all begin foryou?
Like, what even got you into?
Like, I just want to try tomake things.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, I mean I wish there was like a starting point,
but you know we don't remembermuch of our childhood but I
always say it was like myparents taught me there wasn't
like the word no, and I was.
And I touch on it a lot Cause Ihave two kids and and you try
not to get in the way of like,if a child walks up to you and
says I'm painting this picture,what color should I paint this
dog?
And I always use this storybecause it makes sense to people
(09:06):
you would probably say like, oh, a brown dog would be great, or
a white dog, maybe.
Don't answer that question forthem, maybe say, well, what
color would you see that dog be?
What do you think?
Because a lot of times thecreativity comes from us not
answering the question for ourkids.
So I grew up in a house wherethat was normal, that the
narrative was always yeah, goahead, try it, give it a shot.
My dad was blue collar, ownedhis own plumbing and heating
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company, still does to this dayand runs it, and now my brother
runs it with him.
So that blue collar family likeI love that and get that and I,
unfortunately for me, I feellike I could have been a great
plumber but I wasn't.
But I watched the idea of whatit took to be a plumber and my
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mom was on the other side of itwhere she was creating, she was
making florals, she had a giftshop, she was hands-on crafty
Carol.
So I knew nothing other thanthat and I think, like when you
realize you're not learning it,you're just in it, right, like
just existed in that world.
I really didn't know peoplehired people to fix things.
I just thought you went out andfixed it yourself, right.
When you first start gettinginto adulthood and you realize
there's people to fix things andwe hire people for things, I'm
(10:12):
like I can just do it myself.
I can just do it myself.
So I think once I got into thepoint of really not being told
no and putting my hands inthings and realizing that things
were happening with my handsthat were connecting to this
brain up here, Whoa that'samazing.
So I just started doing and andand all just kind of again, like
once you're where you'resupposed to be and you're,
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you're living out this purposeand you're understanding your
passion.
It all just kind of slowlycomes together and sometimes
it's not clear right away,because for me it was always
television and it was like TV,focus, tv, focus, tv.
And then it was like, oh,hands-on, diy, and then all of a
sudden those two things kind ofwent.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Lurched Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I was like, oh my God , they belong together.
And now I'm in a world whereI'm like this was my passion,
this was my purpose.
And they just collided intolike, oh, I can do television
and empower people and create.
So it's a beautiful mashup ofwhat happened.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And something that you touched on was the plumbing
company.
So, you had the contractor sidein your blood and then you had
creative.
But you said now how long?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
has the company been around?
Oh gosh, my dad's been runningit since I was two years old.
You know, a child, I mean thatis.
I don't even know how old myson is.
It's got to be 45 plus years.
I mean, that's all he's done.
He's been a plumber.
He was a Vietnam vet and cameback and learned plumbing as a
trade and that's what he did andhe opened this company and it's
Palmetto Plumbing and Heatingout in the middle of New York,
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nowhere.
But everybody knows him as thebest plumber in the world
because he's so generous andhonorable and he knows
everything.
You're in it for that long.
You know everything.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, wow, so that that right.
There is just kind of atestament to, I would say, the
passion side, because if youdon't have passion and we are
huge, as customer services is abig part of what we do as
contractors, a big part of whatwe do as contractors obviously,
if you don't have those customerservice skills or the
willingness or want to helppeople, you're not going to
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stick around for long.
So for 45 years, that is justyou need to tell him.
I said that that is amazing, Imean you know what.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You're not going to meet someone who doesn't like my
dad.
Yeah, there's no narrative outthere that he's a, that he's not
a great person.
That's the narrative and youwill.
You know he'll do anything foranyone.
So it's like he's the plumberthat is honest and reliable and
caring and almost to a fault.
I'm like when are you going toretire?
And he's like these people needme.
So you know that's just that'swhat he does.
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And you see that as a child andyou grow up in that home and
you, you grow up in that familyof you know, just like my mom,
always busting her butt to sellsomething or make something to
sell.
Just that concept of like howwe were growing up.
And now I look at it and I'mlike gosh, you know, the
generation is so different.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I, my kids, are not growing up like I did, Maybe a
little bit Not really so what'sfunny about that is this this
past fall it was the Novembertime frame we do job shadowing
for a couple of the schools here, so we allow them to send us a
couple of students for the dayand they kind of do what you did
(13:18):
.
And we hit the job site.
It was a young male, youngfemale, and her father owned a
plumbing company and she wascoming here and, smart girl, she
made sure we had his businesscards.
You know, it was just.
It was really nice to see thatthat that's what she wants to do
.
She came to the job shadow tounderstand, like hey, how
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contracting works, but alsobecause she takes serious the
fact that she wants to work withher father and run that company
.
So that that is.
You know, it's out there, we'reready for it, and I love the
fact that those two stories tietogether, where you went a
different direction.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, thank God, I have a brother.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Thank, God, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
It makes me feel a little bit better about things,
but I just I never felt likeconnected to it in a way.
Plumbing is so passionate to me, you know, do I wish I learned
a little more?
Yeah, like in the first episodewhen they asked me what an S
trap or P trap was and Icouldn't answer it and I thought
, oh my gosh, my dad owns aplumbing company.
(14:26):
Well, you go a little mindblank on TV, so I'll give myself
that.
But you know, it's just theidea of, like what could I have
learned and how could I have putthat into play now.
But I do believe, like we takethe steps we need to take.
It's fine.
But yeah, plumbing was never mything.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Right, and that's the thing, though, like and it's
back back to the to our messageis you know, again, I love to
see that there is a youngergeneration that is that is
craving that knowledge, and Ithink people like us putting
that message out there.
That it that it's OK, no matterwho you are, to come into our
industry and make it that thatprimary choice, where a lot
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people I've seen so manygraphics that talk about
comparing the cost of going tocollege versus becoming a
contractor, a plumber,electrician, and those things
are not wrong, I mean the thingis I've never been a poor
electrician, that's for sure.
Yeah, you can make a greatliving as a contractor.
And again, 45 years.
(15:24):
There is not a lot of peoplewho stick around for the first
year first.
Three years, five years.
Those are some of thebenchmarks that people say
you're going out of business ifyou do this.
So for 45 years.
That is amazing, but that alsospeaks to the passion.
Wow, tell your dadcongratulations on that.
I couldn't imagine 45 yearsinto this.
I don dad congratulations onthat.
I couldn't imagine 45 yearsinto this.
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I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, I quote that number.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
It's probably I mean it's gotta be close Cause I'm I
hate saying it, but I'm 45driving around in this white man
, you know, with all the youknow, pivoting back to what you
know kind of what you do andwhat you like to do, and the
inspiration that kind of evenconnected us because, again, I
watch your videos and I stillwatch all the time, because you
are not scared to talk aboutwhat you love, your passion and
(16:10):
building and different thingslike that.
What kind of projects do youthink are your favorite?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I think it's just the idea of taking something that
wasn't beautiful and being ableto say like we can make that
better.
I think it's almost likereaching its full potential and
I think I feel that way withpeople and projects.
Right Like it.
Just projects are so uh.
It's like the simple.
It's almost like bringing itdown to the basics.
For me.
I love basic projects wherepeople can make such a huge
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impact with something so smalllike an arch or wallpaper or
fixing, you know a big hole inthe wall or tearing down a wall
and you know whatever.
It's just like these littlethings that people don't realize
are such big moments to createfeeling in your home, and I love
seeing people's reactions tolittle spaces in their home that
I was able to transform withsomething so minor.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Do people hire you now to do stuff, or can someone
do?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
They do.
I still get a lot of calls.
I don't do it.
I do it more for the joy ofdoing it.
Like I, just you know people arestaging their home or something
to get ready to sell it.
I'll help them with painting.
You know, I just painted tilestoday for someone's backsplash
or just simple things a littlelike that.
I love going to people's homesand helping them understand
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their spaces and things likethat, but for me the timing
isn't.
I just don't have the time todo it.
But I I can't get away from it.
I people, people call me and Ican't say no.
Like I'm like, I'll be rightthere.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I mean, but you're helping them rethink some of
these spaces and I thought thatwas kind of cool while you were
here and just talking about someof the things that you've done
is, you know you can go into ahouse and we do it as remodelers
.
When we're working on and I'mgoing to start sharing clips
soon we're working on a historichome and we're going through
the process of getting approvedbecause you know, if it has a
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historic marker, there arecertain things you can, certain
things you can't do.
We're really reshaping what theinside of this home looks like.
And and it's so fun because andI and I explained this to my
team when you can give people anew space, sometimes it gives
them such peace of mind, and thesmall, the small things, the
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big projects especially, but thesmall things that help them
just peace of mind, and thesmall, the small things, the big
projects especially, but thesmall things that help them just
kind of ease their mind.
But a new space is veryimportant to, like our clients,
they may save their whole lifeto get their dream kitchen done.
So we take very serious thework that we do and making sure
that we reach that vision and,as a contractor.
(18:44):
That that's you know where Iuse designers and stuff.
Because if you show me somethingon pinterest earlier.
I can do it like if you call usand you have, you call adam and
ask him questions, or let'slook at an idea we can make it
happen.
Right, and you're in that samespace.
Now, hey, you have the ideas.
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We are not good at that as thecontractor.
A lot of the times it's show methat Okay, I can build it.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
You're giving me more credit.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I can't come up with that vision You're giving me
more credit.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I don't have a vision either.
I always tell people I'm likelike, the first thing people say
is what would you do in thisroom, what would you do?
And I always sound like I'm nota designer.
I am not a designer or astylist.
Do I know what feels good inthis space?
Yeah, I can probably help youwith that, but nine out of 10
times I'm going to give you thewrong paint color, right?
Or, you know, I might not beable to tell you what color
couch to get with the wall.
(19:43):
Call Like I don't.
I'm not a stylist, but I dounderstand the way that home
should function a lot and Iunderstand the way that home
should feel, and I think that issomething that is very unique
to explain to people becauseagain, they come to me thinking
I'm a designer or that I designthis space, just like you're
saying, and it's like no, but Ican give you ideas and I can
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tell you what I would do if Ilived here, and I can tell you
what you know, what you need tomove this couch over this wall.
And here's just because youknow and it's so hard to explain
that in a sense of like well,what do you do for a living?
What can you do in my home?
And it's like this is why it'snot my job and I don't have a
business card that's like homeperson that does the following
Right.
You.
If you know me, you know that Ican come over and do whatever
(20:26):
you just asked, but only if youknow me.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, absolutely no-transcript.
(20:57):
And that's what people who aregoing to be following you and
kind of following your story andfollowing your journey moving
forward is the inspiration piece, the saying just get started,
don't be scared, it's givingthemselves permission to start
the project that's right,because people do, and we do it
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too.
We think of 30 ways to messsomething up before we even get
started, you know, because we'rejust so scared that we're going
to mess it up that sometimespeople never get started Right,
and it's just kind of likeanything that you do.
I had 150 ways to do a podcast,and I needed it to be perfect
and I needed a script and Ineeded to hire somebody, and
(21:40):
then I just jumped in, and 68episodes later we're kind of
rolling, and every episode youlearn something new, and every
you know, I feel like.
So you are currently my firstonline podcast interview, right,
and I was in my head and I toldSarah this because she was
(22:00):
going to do it.
I think she's coming onSeptember the 2nd to do hers,
and, you know, I was like, well,you're probably going to be the
first one.
I was like how's my camera,how's the microphone?
But it's just jump in and do itRight.
That's kind of you know, andyou can be that inspiration,
because you're always talkingabout manifesting stuff, and
(22:21):
that's kind of doing it.
The difference is, though, thatthat you are, you say it, right,
you manifest it, you say it,you believe it, and then you do.
I love that about the ShannonEvans that I know, and even from
afar.
You know I watch what you doand I've watched what you've
done over the past year and somechange that I've known you and
(22:42):
sometimes I just I'll go to yourpage and look and say I just
need to take a break and seewhat she's got going on.
You always have something goingon.
I love that.
You've been posting with yourfriends lately too.
I saw you bump your head theother night.
I was like what in the world?
And it was you just dyinglaughing and then you go
(23:04):
backwards and boop and I waslike at first I didn't even see
that.
Then you slow mode.
I was like wait a minute, notonly is she embarrassing herself
, but let's do it in slow motion.
And I was like wait a minute,not only is she embarrassing
herself, but let's do it in slowmotion.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
And I was like you put yourself on TV for millions
of people.
The last thing you can do ishide behind who you really are.
That's right.
That goes away real quick no.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And then, when we were, I was watching your show
and I was texting you and sayingyou know, because you can see
it on your face and you're likeI know you do not.
I love that about you, though.
You're the real deal.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
It's so hard because you're just on camera and you're
listening to things.
I'm an active listener, so I'malways like, ok, ok, like I
listen with looking around, or Ilisten with like a face that's
questioning it and it's notquestioning it.
It and with like a face that'squestioning it and it's not
questioning it.
It's just my face moves a lotwhen I, when I'm at you know,
it's part of yeah, but yeah,people, I mean, luckily I've
I've had nothing but nicecomments, but I'm sure coming,
(24:02):
you know it'll be coming, butit's it's all about just I don't
want people to get somethingwhere they're being inspired by
someone who isn't walking thewalk and talking the talk right
like I want.
I want people to know that,like I'm here, I'm here for you
and I was, you know, luckilylucky enough to have incredible
mentors like you guys and andlearning the things that I
learned and people saying yes tome that now I owe that back to
(24:26):
the world, right?
I mean people write messagesand they'll say, oh my God, I
can't believe you answered meand I'm like what do you think I
am?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I can't believe you answered me, and I'm like who do
you think I am?
No, that's another part of thejourney that I'm learning now,
just by kind of reaching out todifferent people and they're
responding and they want to comeon the show.
I'm like man, who am I, youknow, but it's what you were
talking.
You have to accept that.
Hey, you can get guests to comeon and do the show and have a
(24:54):
great conversation, I would say.
The one quality I love about you, though, is the fact that you
jump right in and you make itvery easy to talk to you.
You're very relatable.
I'd love just kind of sittingand chatting with you and being
able to really talk.
Right, yeah, we have goodconversations about real stuff,
and I think anybody that's goingto follow you, especially after
(25:15):
this, and sees you on the showand is reaching out to you, I
think they're getting the realdeal.
So, um, yeah, and I think youknow I'm glad that you came on,
and I'm I'm hoping that wecontinue to build that momentum
that you have going and anybodywho's watching or listening
catcher at the the home shows.
I'm very excited for that.
(25:35):
I can't imagine what kind ofclips and stuff we're going to
be getting from you, from thosethat's wild.
Yeah, watching your journey, butwhen you get a break, come down
here.
We do have a couple ofBarnuminiums that we're building
and I know you wanted to kindof see what that was all about.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I wanted to build one so bad.
I just did a podcast with HaleyDillon who said my vision like
she's been wanting a barnuminiumand I said well, funny story, I
know someone who will help youwith that.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, I love that.
You need to connect us.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I want it so bad, like I.
Just I think my goal like if Ireally had to look forward to
the moment of you look at thismountain and my mountain used to
be HGTV I could just get to thetop and that would be something
that would be a huge milestone.
I think the next one would bein some way, shape or form to
build my own home, in some wayto contribute to the building of
(26:28):
my own space and my own home.
That would be a huge thing forme that I think I'll always kind
of have on my heart of you know, could I do that?
Of course I could do.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Well, I'm going.
If I do it, yeah, come on, comeon down.
We would love to have you and,as we wrap this up, I want to
make sure that we get you yourname, your message out there.
But also where?
Where can people follow you?
Where can they see you?
What do you got going on?
Tell us about it.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I'm very active on Instagram, made by Shannon Evans
.
Um, I answer messages, I postall the time on Instagram and I
think it's linked to Facebook,but either way, instagram is my
main source of like content.
Um, and then, of course, hgtvon Tuesday nights at 9 PM we run
three more episodes, I believe,so there's eight total, but you
can stream at any time.
But 9pm Tuesday nights on HGTVfor Renovation, resort Showdown.
(27:19):
And then, of course, the homeshows across America.
Just follow me and I'm going topost when I'm at those shows
and which cities I'm in.
And being in front of a liveaudience is a little bit weird.
I wouldn't say scares me, butit is a little bit weird.
But I'm excited about that andreally connecting with people
physically and being able to,like, meet people that way.
So it's going to be.
It's going to be a reallyinteresting year, really
(27:41):
interesting year.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Awesome.
Well, we wish you nothing butthe best.
I appreciate you giving us someof your time, coming to hang
out with us, and you know thatthat door is always open to you
and your family, and we wish younothing but success, and I
can't wait to continue to followyou made by Shannon Evans on
(28:03):
Instagram and other places aswell.
Um, but that's your primaryplatform.
Please don't stop doing whatyou're doing.
Keep being inspirational.
I look forward to to reachingout soon and talking to you
again.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
And thank you for being so much for me.
You're a huge part of my life,so thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Thank you All, right Until next time All right, until
next time, all right, bye.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Thanks for joining us today.
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Remodeling Show.
The Home Building and Remodeling Show.
Let's go.
Welcome everybody to the HomeBuilding and Remodeling Show.
My name is Chris Kirby and I'llbe your host.
(00:21):
I am the owner of threeconstruction companies on the
Alabama Gulf Coast.
The show is about residentialconstruction.
We're going to cover topics ofhome building and remodeling.
Are you thinking of doing aremodel or building a home?
Are you a contractor looking toimprove your knowledge base or
grow your business?
Have you ever done a remodelproject or built a home?
(00:42):
There were so many things youwish you knew or that you could
have done differently during theprocess.
Then this show is for you.
We break down the process ofbuilding and remodeling and how
to have the best results duringyour project.
Whether you're a DIYer lookingfor tips, someone looking to
hire a contractor to do aproject or a contractor looking
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to expand your knowledge base oryour business, Welcome aboard.
Glad to have you.
Stay tuned.
All right, what's up guys?
We're back this week again withShannon Evans.
She's a DIY expert and builder.
She joins the show to share herexperience on places like
HGTV's Renovation Resort Justkind of listening to what she's
done and what she's been throughand her journey of being a
(01:28):
maker what she would call amaker has been excellent for a
lot of you who are looking to dothe same type of thing, and
this community is verysupportive.
We post so much stuff, so manyhow-to videos, so many podcast
clips and different videos of ustalking about the show and
different things that we'redoing in home building and
remodeling and the DIY journeythat some of you all have.
(01:50):
Some of the guests that aregoing to be coming on have a
very different journey.
Everybody isn't just atraditional builder or a
traditional remodeler, but theyhave a lot of value add
information, and so I'm lookingforward to those experiences.
After Shannon goes, we haveSarah Trump, who you know.
One of the things that I lovethat Shannon talks about on our
(02:11):
show is the fact that she wasable to come down here and learn
from our company, and that's anopen opportunity for any of you
who listen to our podcast andwant to share your journey or
want to learn and grow.
We actually took her around tosome job sites while she was
here.
We had a whole home remodelthat we were doing and she
walked through, talked with theclient, but, more importantly,
(02:32):
she was able to ask our peoplewho are in the field Jeremiah
and some others hands-onquestions about tile, how they
were installing it, why theywere doing what they were doing
to install the tile, and it wasso cool to see our team actually
answer those questions andtrain her.
And then it was so awesome tosee her be able to ask those
(02:53):
questions and get real lifeexperience and be able to answer
those questions that she couldtake back and use on her journey
.
And the workshops andeverything that we do in our
company are open to any of youwho listen to our podcast.
We're based in Alabama.
We're on the Alabama Gulf Coast.
You are more than welcome tocome down and hang out with us,
spend the day with us, go aroundthe jobs with us home builds,
(03:16):
remodels, additions, whatever itis that we're doing, Even some
of the design stuff that we doand some of those journeys, we'd
love to share those with you onthe show.
And you too can be like Shannonand start your own journey.
Or, if you are hesitant in apart of your journey, right,
just as contractors, we don'tknow it all.
So I encourage you to reach outto us via email or you know,
(03:40):
once we're a little morecomfortable, I actually do hand
out my phone number so you guyscan call guys and girls can call
me and Facebook messenger.
I use social media a lot butyou know, reach out to the home
building show at gmailcom andask your questions far away.
Don't be out there trying to dostuff and be hesitant or scared
to ask questions.
(04:01):
We want you to ask questions.
We want you to share yourjourney.
Come on the show.
Whether you're a home builder,whether you're a novice just
getting started right, itdoesn't really matter.
Ask those questions.
We love this content.
We love sharing knowledge.
We learn so much.
We don't have all the answers,but we love to talk about the
(04:22):
topic, share the knowledge, talkabout being a contractor and
make sure that other contractorsdo better, because they're
listening to our stories,they're listening to the
mistakes we've made and we'resharing those experiences
honestly and openly.
Please watch our how to's andour daily updates via video,
because we put out a lot ofinformation about projects and
(04:46):
especially process in thosevideos.
So make sure you're following.
And as we continue this weekwith Shannon's journey, please
tune in, listen to what Shannonhas to say.
She is somebody who is going tocontinue to grow her presence
in the world of home building,remodeling, DIY.
She calls herself a maker.
(05:06):
I think she's an incredibleperson, an incredible friend,
and she definitely will addvalue to your life, not only in
the building world.
I appreciate her lifeexperience and some of the
stories that she shares.
I hope that you, too, willenjoy listening to her, and
don't be afraid to share yourjourney.
(05:27):
Reach out to usthehomebuildingshowatgmailcom.
I am very passionate about whatwe do and I wanna get your story
out there.
So if you've got a story, shareit with us.
Come on the show, come on thepodcast.
Start your journey.
Ask me how to start a podcast.
Ask me how to start videoing.
What do we use?
Products, tools, all of thatstuff Ask.
(05:50):
Do not hesitate to ask Again.
Tune in.
Look forward to you reachingout to us and I look forward to
sharing more stories, just likeShannon's, and helping people,
and hopefully you will be thenext one to come on the show.
Thanks, Welcome to Shop Talk,the segment where we bring in a
(06:11):
co-host or special guest andjust chop it up about home
building, remodeling and DIY.
This is where stories getshared, lessons get learned and
we dive into the real side ofthe craft straight from the
people living it every day.
Put your hands on, don't bescared.
So if you're, if you'rewatching this and you're
watching Shannon or you gofollow her.
(06:32):
You know, sometimes it's assimple as just getting up and
doing it.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Doing it.
Yeah, and it's funny there's somany areas of what I do Like
people are like.
When someone says like, oh,what do you do for a living or
what do you, I can't give you atitle.
If I say builder, then you'vealready put me in this like box.
Right now I'm a builder.
Now I build homes.
No, I might build a piece offurniture, I might build a
cabinet, I might you know.
So it's like I almost feel likeif more people realize the DIY
(06:58):
world in itself, like whetherit's home improvement expert or
DIY expert or all the milliontitles they give me on that show
, at the end of the day I'm acreator in my own way, where I'm
using my hands to take rawproduct and move it into
something that's useful orbeautiful.
And it's not just aboutbuilding homes.
And I think a lot of peoplejust kind of steer clear of that
(07:18):
because they hear builder andthey think like I'm going to
build a home.
That's insane.
And it's like, no, justdigestible pieces.
Do little projects at a timeuntil you feel comfortable
picking up a tool and buildingbigger and bigger and bigger.
And I'm not even there yet,right, like I'm still at a point
where I know I can get biggerand build bigger things and do
bigger things, but I'm stilllearning.
You have to learn the thingslike you're teaching the little
(07:39):
things, because you don't do allthose little things, how can
you get out there and do a wholehouse, or you know, it's just.
It's wild to me how many peoplejust don't understand how many
areas that they can get into.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, absolutely that was jumping into.
Just yeah, building a home.
Now I do have a home builderfemale home builder friend of
mine that does great work.
She owns Lemongrass CustomHomes and she's going to come on
and she is a builder.
She has been building for over20 years and that's what she
does.
She does wonderful work and hasso much more knowledge than I
(08:14):
do.
She's amazing and I love that.
You know that she's going to beable to come on and inspire and
share her story.
It's all the things you know,starting from the basic
principles of dealing with thetools right, learning that
process and then just gettingout there to make stuff.
And if you follow Shannon,you'll be able to follow that
journey and see some of thestuff that she makes and some of
(08:37):
the stuff that she does.
But where did it all begin foryou?
Like, what even got you into?
Like, I just want to try tomake things.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, I mean I wish there was like a starting point,
but you know we don't remembermuch of our childhood but I
always say it was like myparents taught me there wasn't
like the word no, and I was.
And I touch on it a lot Cause Ihave two kids and and you try
not to get in the way of like,if a child walks up to you and
says I'm painting this picture,what color should I paint this
dog?
And I always use this storybecause it makes sense to people
(09:06):
you would probably say like, oh, a brown dog would be great, or
a white dog, maybe.
Don't answer that question forthem, maybe say, well, what
color would you see that dog be?
What do you think?
Because a lot of times thecreativity comes from us not
answering the question for ourkids.
So I grew up in a house wherethat was normal, that the
narrative was always yeah, goahead, try it, give it a shot.
My dad was blue collar, ownedhis own plumbing and heating
(09:28):
company, still does to this dayand runs it, and now my brother
runs it with him.
So that blue collar family likeI love that and get that and I,
unfortunately for me, I feellike I could have been a great
plumber but I wasn't.
But I watched the idea of whatit took to be a plumber and my
(09:49):
mom was on the other side of itwhere she was creating, she was
making florals, she had a giftshop, she was hands-on crafty
Carol.
So I knew nothing other thanthat and I think, like when you
realize you're not learning it,you're just in it, right, like
just existed in that world.
I really didn't know peoplehired people to fix things.
I just thought you went out andfixed it yourself, right.
When you first start gettinginto adulthood and you realize
there's people to fix things andwe hire people for things, I'm
(10:12):
like I can just do it myself.
I can just do it myself.
So I think once I got into thepoint of really not being told
no and putting my hands inthings and realizing that things
were happening with my handsthat were connecting to this
brain up here, Whoa that'samazing.
So I just started doing and andand all just kind of again, like
once you're where you'resupposed to be and you're,
(10:33):
you're living out this purposeand you're understanding your
passion.
It all just kind of slowlycomes together and sometimes
it's not clear right away,because for me it was always
television and it was like TV,focus, tv, focus, tv.
And then it was like, oh,hands-on, diy, and then all of a
sudden those two things kind ofwent.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Lurched Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I was like, oh my God , they belong together.
And now I'm in a world whereI'm like this was my passion,
this was my purpose.
And they just collided intolike, oh, I can do television
and empower people and create.
So it's a beautiful mashup ofwhat happened.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And something that you touched on was the plumbing
company.
So, you had the contractor sidein your blood and then you had
creative.
But you said now how long?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
has the company been around?
Oh gosh, my dad's been runningit since I was two years old.
You know, a child, I mean thatis.
I don't even know how old myson is.
It's got to be 45 plus years.
I mean, that's all he's done.
He's been a plumber.
He was a Vietnam vet and cameback and learned plumbing as a
trade and that's what he did andhe opened this company and it's
Palmetto Plumbing and Heatingout in the middle of New York,
(11:36):
nowhere.
But everybody knows him as thebest plumber in the world
because he's so generous andhonorable and he knows
everything.
You're in it for that long.
You know everything.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, wow, so that that right.
There is just kind of atestament to, I would say, the
passion side, because if youdon't have passion and we are
huge, as customer services is abig part of what we do as
contractors, a big part of whatwe do as contractors obviously,
if you don't have those customerservice skills or the
willingness or want to helppeople, you're not going to
(12:09):
stick around for long.
So for 45 years, that is justyou need to tell him.
I said that that is amazing, Imean you know what.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You're not going to meet someone who doesn't like my
dad.
Yeah, there's no narrative outthere that he's a, that he's not
a great person.
That's the narrative and youwill.
You know he'll do anything foranyone.
So it's like he's the plumberthat is honest and reliable and
caring and almost to a fault.
I'm like when are you going toretire?
And he's like these people needme.
So you know that's just that'swhat he does.
(12:39):
And you see that as a child andyou grow up in that home and
you, you grow up in that familyof you know, just like my mom,
always busting her butt to sellsomething or make something to
sell.
Just that concept of like howwe were growing up.
And now I look at it and I'mlike gosh, you know, the
generation is so different.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I, my kids, are not growing up like I did, Maybe a
little bit Not really so what'sfunny about that is this this
past fall it was the Novembertime frame we do job shadowing
for a couple of the schools here, so we allow them to send us a
couple of students for the dayand they kind of do what you did
(13:18):
.
And we hit the job site.
It was a young male, youngfemale, and her father owned a
plumbing company and she wascoming here and, smart girl, she
made sure we had his businesscards.
You know, it was just.
It was really nice to see thatthat that's what she wants to do
.
She came to the job shadow tounderstand, like hey, how
(13:42):
contracting works, but alsobecause she takes serious the
fact that she wants to work withher father and run that company
.
So that that is.
You know, it's out there, we'reready for it, and I love the
fact that those two stories tietogether, where you went a
different direction.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, thank God, I have a brother.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Thank, God, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
It makes me feel a little bit better about things,
but I just I never felt likeconnected to it in a way.
Plumbing is so passionate to me, you know, do I wish I learned
a little more?
Yeah, like in the first episodewhen they asked me what an S
trap or P trap was and Icouldn't answer it and I thought
, oh my gosh, my dad owns aplumbing company.
(14:26):
Well, you go a little mindblank on TV, so I'll give myself
that.
But you know, it's just theidea of, like what could I have
learned and how could I have putthat into play now.
But I do believe, like we takethe steps we need to take.
It's fine.
But yeah, plumbing was never mything.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Right, and that's the thing, though, like and it's
back back to the to our messageis you know, again, I love to
see that there is a youngergeneration that is that is
craving that knowledge, and Ithink people like us putting
that message out there.
That it that it's OK, no matterwho you are, to come into our
industry and make it that thatprimary choice, where a lot
(15:03):
people I've seen so manygraphics that talk about
comparing the cost of going tocollege versus becoming a
contractor, a plumber,electrician, and those things
are not wrong, I mean the thingis I've never been a poor
electrician, that's for sure.
Yeah, you can make a greatliving as a contractor.
And again, 45 years.
(15:24):
There is not a lot of peoplewho stick around for the first
year first.
Three years, five years.
Those are some of thebenchmarks that people say
you're going out of business ifyou do this.
So for 45 years.
That is amazing, but that alsospeaks to the passion.
Wow, tell your dadcongratulations on that.
I couldn't imagine 45 yearsinto this.
I don dad congratulations onthat.
I couldn't imagine 45 yearsinto this.
(15:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, I quote that number.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
It's probably I mean it's gotta be close Cause I'm I
hate saying it, but I'm 45driving around in this white man
, you know, with all the youknow, pivoting back to what you
know kind of what you do andwhat you like to do, and the
inspiration that kind of evenconnected us because, again, I
watch your videos and I stillwatch all the time, because you
are not scared to talk aboutwhat you love, your passion and
(16:10):
building and different thingslike that.
What kind of projects do youthink are your favorite?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I think it's just the idea of taking something that
wasn't beautiful and being ableto say like we can make that
better.
I think it's almost likereaching its full potential and
I think I feel that way withpeople and projects.
Right Like it.
Just projects are so uh.
It's like the simple.
It's almost like bringing itdown to the basics.
For me.
I love basic projects wherepeople can make such a huge
(16:39):
impact with something so smalllike an arch or wallpaper or
fixing, you know a big hole inthe wall or tearing down a wall
and you know whatever.
It's just like these littlethings that people don't realize
are such big moments to createfeeling in your home, and I love
seeing people's reactions tolittle spaces in their home that
I was able to transform withsomething so minor.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Do people hire you now to do stuff, or can someone
do?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
They do.
I still get a lot of calls.
I don't do it.
I do it more for the joy ofdoing it.
Like I, just you know people arestaging their home or something
to get ready to sell it.
I'll help them with painting.
You know, I just painted tilestoday for someone's backsplash
or just simple things a littlelike that.
I love going to people's homesand helping them understand
(17:25):
their spaces and things likethat, but for me the timing
isn't.
I just don't have the time todo it.
But I I can't get away from it.
I people, people call me and Ican't say no.
Like I'm like, I'll be rightthere.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I mean, but you're helping them rethink some of
these spaces and I thought thatwas kind of cool while you were
here and just talking about someof the things that you've done
is, you know you can go into ahouse and we do it as remodelers
.
When we're working on and I'mgoing to start sharing clips
soon we're working on a historichome and we're going through
the process of getting approvedbecause you know, if it has a
(18:02):
historic marker, there arecertain things you can, certain
things you can't do.
We're really reshaping what theinside of this home looks like.
And and it's so fun because andI and I explained this to my
team when you can give people anew space, sometimes it gives
them such peace of mind, and thesmall, the small things, the
(18:23):
big projects especially, but thesmall things that help them
just peace of mind, and thesmall, the small things, the big
projects especially, but thesmall things that help them just
kind of ease their mind.
But a new space is veryimportant to, like our clients,
they may save their whole lifeto get their dream kitchen done.
So we take very serious thework that we do and making sure
that we reach that vision and,as a contractor.
(18:44):
That that's you know where Iuse designers and stuff.
Because if you show me somethingon pinterest earlier.
I can do it like if you call usand you have, you call adam and
ask him questions, or let'slook at an idea we can make it
happen.
Right, and you're in that samespace.
Now, hey, you have the ideas.
(19:11):
We are not good at that as thecontractor.
A lot of the times it's show methat Okay, I can build it.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
You're giving me more credit.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I can't come up with that vision You're giving me
more credit.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I don't have a vision either.
I always tell people I'm likelike, the first thing people say
is what would you do in thisroom, what would you do?
And I always sound like I'm nota designer.
I am not a designer or astylist.
Do I know what feels good inthis space?
Yeah, I can probably help youwith that, but nine out of 10
times I'm going to give you thewrong paint color, right?
Or, you know, I might not beable to tell you what color
couch to get with the wall.
(19:43):
Call Like I don't.
I'm not a stylist, but I dounderstand the way that home
should function a lot and Iunderstand the way that home
should feel, and I think that issomething that is very unique
to explain to people becauseagain, they come to me thinking
I'm a designer or that I designthis space, just like you're
saying, and it's like no, but Ican give you ideas and I can
(20:04):
tell you what I would do if Ilived here, and I can tell you
what you know, what you need tomove this couch over this wall.
And here's just because youknow and it's so hard to explain
that in a sense of like well,what do you do for a living?
What can you do in my home?
And it's like this is why it'snot my job and I don't have a
business card that's like homeperson that does the following
Right.
You.
If you know me, you know that Ican come over and do whatever
(20:26):
you just asked, but only if youknow me.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, absolutely no-transcript.
(20:57):
And that's what people who aregoing to be following you and
kind of following your story andfollowing your journey moving
forward is the inspiration piece, the saying just get started,
don't be scared, it's givingthemselves permission to start
the project that's right,because people do, and we do it
(21:18):
too.
We think of 30 ways to messsomething up before we even get
started, you know, because we'rejust so scared that we're going
to mess it up that sometimespeople never get started Right,
and it's just kind of likeanything that you do.
I had 150 ways to do a podcast,and I needed it to be perfect
and I needed a script and Ineeded to hire somebody, and
(21:40):
then I just jumped in, and 68episodes later we're kind of
rolling, and every episode youlearn something new, and every
you know, I feel like.
So you are currently my firstonline podcast interview, right,
and I was in my head and I toldSarah this because she was
(22:00):
going to do it.
I think she's coming onSeptember the 2nd to do hers,
and, you know, I was like, well,you're probably going to be the
first one.
I was like how's my camera,how's the microphone?
But it's just jump in and do itRight.
That's kind of you know, andyou can be that inspiration,
because you're always talkingabout manifesting stuff, and
(22:21):
that's kind of doing it.
The difference is, though, thatthat you are, you say it, right,
you manifest it, you say it,you believe it, and then you do.
I love that about the ShannonEvans that I know, and even from
afar.
You know I watch what you doand I've watched what you've
done over the past year and somechange that I've known you and
(22:42):
sometimes I just I'll go to yourpage and look and say I just
need to take a break and seewhat she's got going on.
You always have something goingon.
I love that.
You've been posting with yourfriends lately too.
I saw you bump your head theother night.
I was like what in the world?
And it was you just dyinglaughing and then you go
(23:04):
backwards and boop and I waslike at first I didn't even see
that.
Then you slow mode.
I was like wait a minute, notonly is she embarrassing herself
, but let's do it in slow motion.
And I was like wait a minute,not only is she embarrassing
herself, but let's do it in slowmotion.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
And I was like you put yourself on TV for millions
of people.
The last thing you can do ishide behind who you really are.
That's right.
That goes away real quick no.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And then, when we were, I was watching your show
and I was texting you and sayingyou know, because you can see
it on your face and you're likeI know you do not.
I love that about you, though.
You're the real deal.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
It's so hard because you're just on camera and you're
listening to things.
I'm an active listener, so I'malways like, ok, ok, like I
listen with looking around, or Ilisten with like a face that's
questioning it and it's notquestioning it.
It and with like a face that'squestioning it and it's not
questioning it.
It's just my face moves a lotwhen I, when I'm at you know,
it's part of yeah, but yeah,people, I mean, luckily I've
I've had nothing but nicecomments, but I'm sure coming,
(24:02):
you know it'll be coming, butit's it's all about just I don't
want people to get somethingwhere they're being inspired by
someone who isn't walking thewalk and talking the talk right
like I want.
I want people to know that,like I'm here, I'm here for you
and I was, you know, luckilylucky enough to have incredible
mentors like you guys and andlearning the things that I
learned and people saying yes tome that now I owe that back to
(24:26):
the world, right?
I mean people write messagesand they'll say, oh my God, I
can't believe you answered meand I'm like what do you think I
am?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I can't believe you answered me, and I'm like who do
you think I am?
No, that's another part of thejourney that I'm learning now,
just by kind of reaching out todifferent people and they're
responding and they want to comeon the show.
I'm like man, who am I, youknow, but it's what you were
talking.
You have to accept that.
Hey, you can get guests to comeon and do the show and have a
(24:54):
great conversation, I would say.
The one quality I love about you, though, is the fact that you
jump right in and you make itvery easy to talk to you.
You're very relatable.
I'd love just kind of sittingand chatting with you and being
able to really talk.
Right, yeah, we have goodconversations about real stuff,
and I think anybody that's goingto follow you, especially after
(25:15):
this, and sees you on the showand is reaching out to you, I
think they're getting the realdeal.
So, um, yeah, and I think youknow I'm glad that you came on,
and I'm I'm hoping that wecontinue to build that momentum
that you have going and anybodywho's watching or listening
catcher at the the home shows.
I'm very excited for that.
(25:35):
I can't imagine what kind ofclips and stuff we're going to
be getting from you, from thosethat's wild.
Yeah, watching your journey, butwhen you get a break, come down
here.
We do have a couple ofBarnuminiums that we're building
and I know you wanted to kindof see what that was all about.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I wanted to build one so bad.
I just did a podcast with HaleyDillon who said my vision like
she's been wanting a barnuminiumand I said well, funny story, I
know someone who will help youwith that.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, I love that.
You need to connect us.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I want it so bad, like I.
Just I think my goal like if Ireally had to look forward to
the moment of you look at thismountain and my mountain used to
be HGTV I could just get to thetop and that would be something
that would be a huge milestone.
I think the next one would bein some way, shape or form to
build my own home, in some wayto contribute to the building of
(26:28):
my own space and my own home.
That would be a huge thing forme that I think I'll always kind
of have on my heart of you know, could I do that?
Of course I could do.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Well, I'm going.
If I do it, yeah, come on, comeon down.
We would love to have you and,as we wrap this up, I want to
make sure that we get you yourname, your message out there.
But also where?
Where can people follow you?
Where can they see you?
What do you got going on?
Tell us about it.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I'm very active on Instagram, made by Shannon Evans
.
Um, I answer messages, I postall the time on Instagram and I
think it's linked to Facebook,but either way, instagram is my
main source of like content.
Um, and then, of course, hgtvon Tuesday nights at 9 PM we run
three more episodes, I believe,so there's eight total, but you
can stream at any time.
But 9pm Tuesday nights on HGTVfor Renovation, resort Showdown.
(27:19):
And then, of course, the homeshows across America.
Just follow me and I'm going topost when I'm at those shows
and which cities I'm in.
And being in front of a liveaudience is a little bit weird.
I wouldn't say scares me, butit is a little bit weird.
But I'm excited about that andreally connecting with people
physically and being able to,like, meet people that way.
So it's going to be.
It's going to be a reallyinteresting year, really
(27:41):
interesting year.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Awesome.
Well, we wish you nothing butthe best.
I appreciate you giving us someof your time, coming to hang
out with us, and you know thatthat door is always open to you
and your family, and we wish younothing but success, and I
can't wait to continue to followyou made by Shannon Evans on
(28:03):
Instagram and other places aswell.
Um, but that's your primaryplatform.
Please don't stop doing whatyou're doing.
Keep being inspirational.
I look forward to to reachingout soon and talking to you
again.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
And thank you for being so much for me.
You're a huge part of my life,so thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Thank you All, right Until next time All right, until
next time, all right, bye.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Thanks for joining us today.
As always, we are grateful forour listeners and your continued
support.
Please subscribe to our YouTubechannel.
Follow us on social media viaFacebook, instagram and TikTok.
Get more info at our website,wwwthehomebuildingshowcom.
And, as always, remember who weare the Home Building and
(28:51):
Remodeling Show.
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