February 22, 2025 • 54 mins
Have you ever wondered what it takes to embrace the homeschooling path, especially when it seems like an unconventional choice? Join Cheryl and her guest, Cece, a trailblazing homeschool mom, as they unravel the intricate journey of homeschooling three boys. Cece candidly shares her family's transition from a traditional private school to homeschooling, driven by her desire to address her son's educational needs and mental health without the pressure of formal diagnoses. Her heartfelt narrative reveals the challenges, adaptations, and ultimate triumphs of crafting a learning environment that honors each child's individuality.
Navigating the complexities of homeschooling doesn't stop at academics. Cheryl and Cece explore the myriad of challenges that homeschooling parents face, from supporting mental health to encouraging unique interests. Cece emphasizes the significance of understanding each child's learning style, advocating for resources like the Tuttle Twins curriculum, and the decision to bypass formal testing for conditions like ADD. Their conversation offers a comprehensive look at how homeschooling can foster personal growth and accountability, with Cece providing practical tips and inspiring stories about nurturing her children's passions and skills.
Balancing work and homeschooling is no easy feat, especially as a single parent. Cece opens up about her journey of managing these dual roles, highlighting the need for flexibility, creativity, and resilience. From setting unconventional learning schedules to preparing her teens for graduation with essential life skills, her experiences offer invaluable insights for parents seeking more control over their children's education. This episode promises to equip listeners with the knowledge and encouragement to embark on their own transformative homeschooling journey.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to this week's episode of the Homeschool
How-To.
I'm Cheryl and I invite you tojoin me on my quest to find out
why are people homeschooling,how do you do it, how does it
differ from region to region?
And should I homeschool my kids?
Stick with me as I interviewhomeschooling families across
the country to unfold theanswers to each of these
(00:26):
questions week by week.
Welcome, and with us today Ihave Cece.
She has been homeschoolingbefore.
It was even cool, so I amreally excited to hear her story
today.
Cece, welcome to the show.
Thanks for being here hear herstory today.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Cece, welcome to the show.
Thanks for being here, thankyou.
Thank you.
I'm so happy to be here.
I'm glad that I caught yourthread on Facebook.
When I did, I was verysurprised to hear you contact me
on something like this, so I'mreally really happy to get with
you on it.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
So why don't you begin by telling us how many
kids you have and their ages?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Okay, I have three boys homeschool mom for 14 years
.
I am 39.
I know a lot of people wonderand think that I am a lot
younger.
I am 39.
I am a divorced mom so I wasmarried majority.
I married at 19.
And my oldest two are 16 monthsapart, 19 and 18.
(01:22):
So I have one graduatehomeschool, one graduating this
year and I have a first graderand I am a serial entrepreneur
currently.
But when I started them and formajority of my first two I was
home.
I was a stay at home mom as Igot started.
So I have a big expansion to goin.
Like you said before, it wascool Cause I definitely got the
(01:44):
eyeballs then versus now theeyes are on me.
I need help, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yes, all right.
So why don't we start with whateven made you want to
homeschool in the first place?
Are you Amish?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I'm kidding, that's right.
We were just talking about howthat was kind of close in the
year, so this was so if youroldest is 19,.
This was about 14 years ago, soyeah, this was like pretty
early on, way before COVID.
Yes, what made you startwanting to homeschool?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Way before COVID.
So, being a stay-at-home mom,my free time was led up with
them.
They were going to a privateschool at church.
So, with that being said, thechurch was moving vastly and
expanding and they were changingsome of the rules and
regulations in which we agreedon.
But they started changing somerules that I didn't agree on and
(02:33):
, even though I'm not againstgetting your children checked
for being on the spectrum, theywanted me to get my oldest son
checked.
They say he was not a problemchild, he was on a roll student.
But he had a teacher who was 21and kept asking him to focus
during courses and during class.
She said he was justdaydreaming.
(02:53):
So I was like, okay, what's theproblem?
He's six.
He was six at the time.
So it started changing for theworse and I started getting
little letters on his agendaquite frequently.
It changed to every day and Ithink that the relationship
started changing because Istarted seeing the change of his
demeanor.
Then it changed to theclassroom and the school.
So now there's a problem.
(03:15):
And then the principal asked meto get him checked.
Actually, he didn't ask me, heasked me forcibly I need you to
get him checked and you have amonth.
I said excuse me.
So now I see that there's aproblem in the church and I just
didn't know what happened overthe course of just a few months
over him just not focusing.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Right, it wasn't like he was acting out hurting other
kids.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Interrupting, not even interrupting other kids
during tests or anything.
He's very quiet to himself.
Actually, this is my ITT whizkid.
He built his computer fromscratch.
When I say motherboard, I don'teven know all the terminology.
I told him I could tell you howto produce your business,
however, that I don't know howto speak that lingo, but he is
very smart and entailed in theITT field.
So he's a whiz kid.
(03:58):
He was just bored, so he's aself-teacher.
He teaches himself things and Ididn't find out until I pulled
him and homeschooled him.
So for that very reason I toldhim I'm not in agreement with it
.
We will continue to pay for theschooling for two more months.
School will be done.
I will be bringing home mychildren.
So for the first two years I didsee that it was very difficult,
(04:18):
and that's what I teach a lotof people.
When you're homeschooling thefirst year or two, it's going to
be very prominent that you havemuch patience because you're
becoming the teacher as well asthe parent, and they have to
understand that.
So not only do you have to getacclimated to them, they have to
get acclimated to you and youhave to give it time if this is
(04:41):
what you're really serious ondoing, your whole world is going
to change between the both ofyou.
So when that happened, I didnotice that it was hard for him
to focus on certain things.
But happened.
I did notice that it was hardfor him to focus on certain
things, but as soon as I said,hey, he was on it.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Okay, mom, I got you, so I was like okay, but I did
realize that put him into adepression for three years.
I had to pull him up out ofWell, how old was he at this
time when you took him out?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
He was six, six, okay , yeah, he was six.
That's a very early age to Ithink.
Well, that age is encounteringway more today now I can say,
but at that time that was a veryearly age to have depression
and worry about people coming atyou.
So I had to do some very, veryhard talks with him and keeping
him close and he grew out of itand had an amazing senior year.
(05:23):
I will say, if I speed it up,so I'm really happy that I put
that work in and I was happy totake them in on my own because I
am a teacher at heart.
I teach a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Did you ever think, oh, let me put him in like just
a different private school orthe public school, like what
made you say like, oh, I'm goingto homeschool.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, I was going to.
My first inkling was you knowwhat, let me switch them over to
public school.
But then I had this gut feelingoh my, oh, my goodness, if I
have these ideologies and thesesimilar pretenses of life with
this church, how is it going tobe for public school?
Oh my gosh, like how are theygoing to do with him?
(06:00):
And especially the depressionthat he was going through.
So that bothered me.
It kept pushing in on me, andboth his grandmas are teachers
too.
So I talked to them and spokewith them and I just kept
getting that notionhomeschooling and it was so
uncommon at that time.
But I took the plunge and I wasreally really nervous, really
really nervous.
(06:20):
The education was no problem.
I'm advanced in that area.
It was like what do I do?
How do I start?
But the good thing is I hadsome courses underneath of me
and I also know that they wereable to switch from their course
and do it underneath of me too,because they were on what was
it called?
I think it starts with an A.
It was a long time ago, butit's an academy and you could
(06:42):
even graduate with them throughthem.
It was a Becca.
They were underneath of a Beccaat the time.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
So they were able to easily transition.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
That's pretty strict and rigid.
Well, yeah, now back in the day, you can do that.
Now we have so much technologyand AI, I teach my third son
completely different.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
There's nothing near that, and I love that you have
that vast age group that you'vebeen doing, because you have
learned so much on the way.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
So we're going to unpack all that.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Now you had a son that was a year younger than
this son, right?
And you said I'm going to justpull them both.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yes, I did pull them both.
There was starting to be somebias and some other things going
on with their hair and actuallyit is the same ethnicity as
mine as far as the church, butthere was some differences going
on.
I couldn't take one out and dothe other and it still worked
the same way when I did for themto keep them both together
instead of having one out andone in.
(07:41):
So the youngest the youngest.
He was five, so it was OK.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And you know, I think it's easy for you maybe going
through it at the time to say,oh, maybe the depression was
caused by taking him out ofschool and homeschooling him.
But you know I'm looking at itkind of a different way that he
would have gone through thatdepression anyway, but he was
home with you and you were ableto see it so you could have
those conversations.
I think there's a good chancethe depression would have
(08:09):
happened whether he was in theprivate school, the public
school or homeschool.
Yeah, just because sometimes itis a chemistry thing going on
in our brain and the way thatlike puberty functions, and I
think right now in schoolsthey're taking advantage of that
and that's where the do youthink you might be the opposite
gender here?
Pfizer came up with a drug wecould give you to fix that, you
know.
So I think that it's just socommon.
(08:32):
But the fact that he was homewith you, you were able to see
it and get him through that whenyou know, I don't think that
the depression was caused bybeing home, like just not that I
know anything about your familyor your son, but I just think
that, being home, you were ableto see this.
It was actually a gift that hewas home with you.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yes, I didn't have as much distractions.
If you want to say that, workcan definitely cause that and
now, being a serial entrepreneur, I can still catch those things
.
I can still see that, oh, Ineed to change my schedule, I
need to spend more time in thisarea.
I have done that over the years, especially when my oldest son
was doing graduation.
(09:10):
I had to change my schedule sothat he would meet his meetings,
that he can do his graduationdinner, so I could give him the
whole year.
And I tell you, because he wasvery, very much into himself and
shunned away from people for awhile, because of that
experience he's very muchintrovert and I know that a lot
(09:32):
of homeschool kids can be, buthe was very much introvert
because of the situation.
He definitely remembers it.
But he did allow me.
I coached him for two years forhis senior year, to do his, his
photos, his senior photos,because he wouldn't even let me
take pictures.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So he let me take pictures of him.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
He gave me smiles like I could see him blossom and
through his senior year I justlike listen, we're never going
to get this year back.
This will be a memory andyou'll get fragments.
This will be a memory andyou'll get fragments, but with
pictures and videos, you'llstart to remember many things
versus trying to remember itfrom your mind as you become an
adult.
So don't take that from you,don't take that from me, and I
(10:12):
want you to have this.
So I made it very memorable forhim.
Although we're homeschoolingdoesn't mean we can't have the
experience.
I feel like it's all about theparents, initiation and how to
give to that child, becausewe're guiding them through it
all and preparing them foradulthood, you know.
So he gave me and himself avery good experience and at the
(10:33):
end he hugged me, said thank you, thank you so much for all you
did, and I was like, yes, ok, wemet the criteria.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
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(11:04):
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If I can ask you this now, whydidn't you want him tested to
(11:52):
see if there was something?
I mean now you can like.
I can look at my son and I'mlike, OK, he's got ADD.
Like if my kid were in aclassroom, they'd be telling me
he needs meds.
So is it that you you know somepeople might listen to it and
be like, oh, she's in denial.
If he doesn't want his picturetaken, clearly something's off.
Or is it just that you wantedto be able to let him thrive in
(12:14):
the environment that wassuitable for him, Because in the
end, he's very good atcomputers, building things,
paying attention to detail,teaching himself.
He learns a different way thanwhat the traditional classroom
provides.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yes, and that's what I have found out concerning my
children, concerning kids period, I can also say because my mom
has daycare management as wellas running her own daycare in
the past, she has nursingunderneath her belt some similar
things that runs in my familythat at eight years old I was
basically a teacher assistant.
So I was out here giving andhelping and showing other
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children and teaching them, or Ishould say, I should say I
started from the womb with myyoungest sister, who's two years
younger than me, so with my sonI realized it was like you say
it was nothing crazy going on.
I'm like, okay, we have aproblem here, what's going on?
And I just had the inkling justto let me pull them out, let me
see what's going on for myselfbefore I move any further.
(13:10):
But I just did not feel to letsomeone bully me to tell me, hey
, but we never, they never saidhey, ms Harris, can we sit down
and have a meeting?
Can I show you these reports?
It was never that.
So I think it was just the waythat it was done for me to say,
okay, you know, if anything'sgoing to taint my children, it's
going to be me.
I want the best for them.
(13:30):
Let me sit down and see what'sgoing on here, because I will
say that today is way moreprominent.
You know, everyone has issues.
There's big and small ones.
Let's see it through.
And that's even hard for theparents to do, because parents
are having issues too with whatwe're facing with society.
So a long time ago it was morepeaceful, there wasn't so much
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drama and it was.
Let me be one-on-one with mychildren and let me see what's
going on hand before I moveforward.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So as the kids kind of got older and you started
getting used to homeschooling,you were a couple of years in,
say, at this point did you stickwith a Becca?
Did you try something different?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Well, I definitely tried other things.
I believe they did a Becca forabout another three, about three
years roughly give or take.
By the time they got to middleschool I realized they were
getting bored.
So I switched to K-12.
Because we moved to Georgia, Iswitched to K-12 and realized I
(14:28):
did not like it.
My motto is, if you're ahomeschool parent, that your
children should not fail.
Your children should not lingerNot that they don't have issues
, but I feel like it's easier toit should be easier to focus on
their issues.
You know their assets, whatthey're great at versus what
they're weak at, guide them, mapit out for the year.
You can create your ownschedule to figure out how to
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successfully get your childthrough that year.
That's what I feel.
If your child is failing, itmight not be for you, and I'm
not saying the first year, ifthis is an ongoing thing, then
you guys might not have just thechemistry to work together,
depending on what's going on,and that's okay.
But I realized that with K-12,there's another teacher and
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there was something I physicallyhelped my son on during science
and she gave him like a D and Icouldn't understand why she
gave him a D and I spoke to herand she still said that he was
getting this D.
That's when I was like, oh no,okay, sorry, we can't do this,
because I guided him through thebook.
(15:33):
He did it on his own.
Then I did it with him and then, if someone else is telling me
that this is it, I was like, no,I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
So is K-12 like an online school?
So is K-12 like an onlineschool?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So K-12, when I was in Georgia, you were able to
meet up and do activities.
However, it was online.
It was book work and online.
So it wasn't too much online,not like the teacher was
teaching online.
It was like here's yourassignments and you had teachers
to.
I guess reference to that'swhere the problem was, because
(16:06):
I'm still teaching at home andthen it's not like this was the
definite answer in this bookthat gives the answers.
You know the key books.
It wasn't anything like thatthere was just it was kind of a
limbo, you know, like almostlike a theory, like hey, if the
shower has all this heat, whydoes the shower curtain sink in
type of thing?
Has all this heat?
Why does the shower curtainsink in type of thing?
I was like, oh wait wait, wait.
(16:27):
Trying to talk it over and hestill got that grade that didn't
settle with me.
So yeah, I remember sociologybeing like that in college.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I remember like walking out of tests thinking I
got everything right, everysingle thing Like it all made
sense to me.
And I kept putting a 70 on itand I'm like, no, I could fight,
I could like argue why I'mright, but it's not how the
teacher saw it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Right, right, and I think that that is very
important as a teacher to beable to see the different ways
that people can see something.
If that answer there's plentyof answers that are broad,
dependent on the subject, andthen you have certain subjects
that there's a definite answerand there are keys for that, you
know.
So I did not agree with K-12.
I do refer that program topeople who their children have
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already been in school and theywant to homeschool due to
whatever with the systemsconcerning all the stuff the
schools are going throughcurrently, for their health and
well-being or for their mentalstability.
I definitely refer K-12 forthat reason, but I tell them
it's just because it'sadjustment and I don't suggest
you fully homeschool unlessyou're ready.
So there's other key elements,but that is a good one if you're
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taking them out of a publicschool, I feel.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Okay.
So how did your second son dowith the homeschooling
throughout the years?
Did you do group meetups forlike to get friends or sports,
you know, because thesocialization is such a big fear
mongering tactic to scarepeople away from homeschooling.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yes, so I definitely have a story with that.
My second son.
He did really good when he gotbetween 10 and 12.
He did bug me on going andtransitioning to public school.
I think it was because I had afriend who her children were in
public school and they, you know, they hung out.
So he bugged me and then I gotso busy with my business I was
(18:18):
really contemplating onswitching them to public school,
and the more that I keptteaching them and getting them
ready for school, the more I waslike, oh, my goodness, they're
not going to be able to do it,because how I'm teaching them to
think for themselves, to askquestions, do this, and that I'm
like, oh, the teachers aregoing to raise havoc.
It might be at least one that'sgoing to be like oh, why are
(18:39):
you questioning me?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
The teachers will think that they're being
sarcastic or facetious me.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
The teachers will think that they're being
sarcastic or facetious.
Yes, I have a younger brother.
That's what happened to himwith his history teacher because
he is very, he holds his headup high and he was like
questioning this is the answerin the book blah blah, blah,
blah blah.
And the teacher tried to failhim.
My mom had to go to the schooland really work things out with
them to say why is this aproblem?
So I was teaching them aboutlockers and this and that and
dealing with different peopleand I just realized I'm going to
(19:09):
have to teach them all overagain.
And then, when they get thereand how they come back, I was
like you know what, nevermind,I'm going to work this out.
So he, after those two years,he got over it very quickly and
he actually was excited to.
You know, be like mom, I'm gladI'm staying home.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Cause he was never actually sent him.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I never did, I never sent them.
It was a thought, it was aconversation.
We spoke about it and I thinkhe, the more we spoke about it,
then he started getting nervous.
But I will say, concerningevents and groups, there wasn't
so much at that time.
For a long time I would dothings that I could try to find
here and there libraries, stufflike that but about five to
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seven years I started gettingthem out more because then I was
becoming a community activistand really pushing out in the
community.
So they've done fashion showsand one of them ended up after
that fashion show.
I pushed them on purpose.
I said, hey, do this fashionshow because I was working the
fashion show.
I said you will never have todo it again.
So the oldest introvert one, hedid it, enjoyed it and he was
like no, the next time I said,okay, the second one really
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liked it and he did.
He became a model and actuallylast year he walked New York
Fashion Week.
So yeah, and I worked that showwith him as well.
He was the first to be pickedfrom this particular designer
and he did some do.
He did some acting too onYouTube.
So but he's paused on thosethings.
Now he's preparing andsteadfast on his focus for
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senior year, so I don't know ifhe's gonna pick it back up.
But he had a good long run withmodeling and he did some um, oh,
he was on DC DC News too.
So yeah, we made some very bigaccolades with him on that one.
So they've done a lot of thingscommunity work I get them
involved.
I have plenty of clients whoare involved in many things up
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and down the road, so, includingthe youngest, he's not scared
to talk, he talks business withme.
My notion I tell people is asactive as you're gonna get them
is as active they will be unlessit's already in them like their
characteristic.
But if you don't, then theywill be.
Unless it's already in themlike their characteristic.
But if you don't, then theywill be very introverted because
you're only allotting what theycan do, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah.
So what about your youngest now?
So he's the same age as my son.
They're both six.
So how do you do it differentlywith this?
What have you learned?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Man.
So I've learned that he has asmuch energy as I do.
I am.
I'm everywhere and so is he.
I realized when he was a babythat I was gonna have to keep
him in sports, keep himacclimated.
So once a year I'll put him ina season of something.
He was in soccer last year, didamazing it was a natural
actually.
He was in soccer last year, didamazing it wasn't natural
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actually.
So I was like, okay, I'm glad Icaught that and we walk out and
he's talking to people.
So I just know he's going to dosomething with big business and
with money.
He's very in tune to it.
But I do.
I have to keep him going.
He does not shut off untilbedtime.
He does not.
It's completely different.
But because part of his studies, I realized that it's the
opposite and I think that's alot of children today.
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He is not a sit down bookperson.
He just became that wayliterally a couple of weeks ago.
I can now do workbooks with him.
Hooked on, phonics was boring tohim.
I had to cancel the app, but Igot him on something new.
That's new for me too.
It's Sofa Tutor, and that is areally good app for young kids.
It keeps him going.
They have games, they havereading.
There's different things tokeep him notioning, emotioning
and getting awards, changing hisprofile picture.
(22:39):
It's very entertaining, so thatwas very fun for him.
That's something that we'vebeen doing and still going.
Good for us.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, I've jumped around with a couple different
curriculums and like even yeah,I was talking on one of my
episodes that we are doing BoyScouts now and it's funny
because when you surroundyourself with other kids that
are in public school and yourkid isn't and has never been, it
is hilarious when they say,okay, line up, and your kid has
(23:08):
no idea what the heck that meansand then you know these kids
are all reading already.
They held up like a board withthe Boy Scout law or whatever
pledge on it.
These kids are all reading itand my.
The only reason why I'mcomfortable with the fact that
he's not reading on his own yetis because I've interviewed
(23:30):
homeschooling families for twoyears now, because if I hadn't
done that I'd be like, oh my God, I'm failing.
I got to put him back in school, but I know that it's okay, his
brain will get there and heloves other things like, like
you said, go and, go and go, andhe's always with his father.
He knows everything aboutvehicles.
He drives a truck.
It's snowing here today in NewYork.
He got on a plow.
(23:51):
He got on his own tractor.
It's his great grandfather's.
He got on the tractor.
They put a plow on it forChristmas and he's plowing.
My husband's not even home,wasn't even home from work yet,
and here's the six-year-oldplowing our driveway.
So I'm like you know what it'sokay if he's not reading, it is
okay.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
It is okay.
It's just a time frame.
It will happen.
I had to adjust to my thirdchild out of three of them.
Two of them had a speechimpediment.
The first one, which is mymiddle son, it was just the S's
and R's, but the last one, it isstrong and it comes from their
father's side of the family.
So I had to guide and coach andfor the longest time he would
(24:30):
get so frustrated because no onecan understand what he's saying
and I tell him, slow down.
But he's doing way better now.
But he does read, but he's notfull-blown reading and, like you
said, it's just all in theschedule every day.
I know he's going to get it.
He's came a long way, just likeyour son, own way, just like
(24:51):
your son.
But there's other great thingsthat they're getting as well.
It's all in timeframe.
But you know, public school isjust like this and we're kind of
like this and we move with ourchildren and how and what, who,
what, when, where, why, you knowit's.
It's a different instinct, butit's okay, I agree.
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You know I'm glad that youmentioned the speech impediment
because I never talk about that.
But my son did too, and youknow I would notice.
And we have friends in ourhomeschooling group where
actually two different moms werespeech teachers and you know
(26:09):
both of them have left that tohomeschool their kids.
But you know both of them haveleft that to homeschool their
kids.
But you know they kind ofbrought it to my attention that
hey, you know, just so you knowhe has.
I forget the verbiage for it now, but they said to me you know,
you, you pay taxes for theschool you are entitled to get
him evaluated at the school andget speech therapy and if they
(26:31):
don't want him in the schoolbecause he doesn't have, you
know, if he's not up to date onvaccinations or whatever,
they're required to come to yourhouse because you pay the taxes
.
So that is something I didn'tknow.
I only happened to know fromthem.
So I did get him evaluated, butyou know I they were.
I mean, it was a fight to gethim evaluated.
Like they were like well, canyou understand him?
Yeah, well then it's probablyfine.
(26:51):
And you know my friend wouldsay no, I can hear a lateral
lisp, I think is what it wasthat she called a lateral lisp.
So my friend gave me some ideas, exercises to do with them, and
YouTube gave me exercises to dowith them.
So we just did those every day.
It took maybe five 10 minutesand yeah, it did probably take a
year but he fixed the Z sound.
(27:11):
I had it all written down thech, the z, the st, the tr, all
that stuff and there's justlittle things you can do, like
putting a little ball on thefloor and then have them blow
through a straw, you know, to godown.
There's just little things youcan do to strengthen those
muscles that.
I don't want parents to feellike oh, my kid needs therapy
(27:34):
for speech.
So therefore I have to send themto school, because one the
school needs to pay for that,for you anyway, or?
Two you still can do ityourself if you don't want to
involve them it's possible.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, that's nice.
That is perfect.
Using youtube, I call ityoutube university it.
It has everything on it.
Not everybody is right, ofcourse, but I correct him.
Some people, I notice, whenthey hear their child speak,
they kind of baby it If you sayum, panny Cake.
I used to say Panny Cake as alittle girl and did not know why
people were laughing at me andbecause they thought it was
(28:06):
funny.
Sisters, cousins, my mom andI'm like what's wrong?
I think I was probably sevenand it's pancake.
But no one said Noah's pancake.
So with him, I corrected his STs.
We will, you know, I'll do thehand, we will say it every time.
Fix it.
And my mom she would say if hewould say his brother's name,
(28:27):
she would copy him and it wouldbe like some a v or something
like that.
That was said wrong.
I said no, don't allow him tosay it the wrong way, we just
keep staying on it.
So now when he says, oh,because it just snowed.
Oh, there's no outside, no,there's snow outside, he has to
say it like that um, there'ssnow.
(28:48):
And I said okay, but this, butthe no, no, there's snow.
Thank you, you know.
So it's just like my memory.
Like you said, practicing themuscles, it is an ongoing thing
but it eventually takes care ofitself.
Maybe I feel like 85, 90percent of the time.
My um middle son.
(29:08):
I don't have to correct him, Ididn't have to do this as long
with him, but the reason my lastson is going through this is
because he didn't keep apacifier but once he got to his
sippy cup he kept the sippy cupin his mouth, just kept it on
his teeth and between his teethand tongue it was like a
security blanket and he gets somad and he would use that just
(29:31):
to calm him down.
And at four I had to four yearsold I had to take that away from
him and throw it in trash andsay it's gone.
I don't know where it went andI had to just practice with him
to teach him how to calm himselfdown and get a different kind
of security blanket.
He has stuffed animals andstuff like that now but because
of that I was like, oh, what didI do?
No other kid had to do it, butI have to keep practicing his
(29:53):
speech with him and keeppracticing so those other tools
that when we let our kids justsuck on things it does mess with
the speech.
Very bad, very, very bad.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
That's interesting.
You would think that thesucking would actually help the
speech, because you're almostusing the muscles when you're
sucking on something.
So you would think that themuscles would be stronger.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, you would think so, but I feel like it
elongated his tongue and then italso did something to his teeth
between the teeth and tongue,so they're not really coming
together.
It was a bad habit, like theopposite way.
So it's getting strong in theopposite way versus doing what
it.
So it's getting strong in theopposite way versus doing what
it's supposed to and himspeaking.
(30:33):
So it delayed him in like, say,a year, like like he's a year
behind in his speech.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
You know I could tell what other kids and now so with
him, so with sports, you knewright away this kid's this kid
is so he needs to be out theredoing competitive things, social
things.
Yes, do you think like, oh, Ishould have done that more with
my older kids, or is theirpersonality just so different?
I just want to ease people'sfears around the socialization
(31:01):
thing, that it doesn't have tobe like 85 sports all year long.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Oh yeah, no.
So I have clients who theirchildren in sports all year.
Oh my gosh, I give my hat offto soccer moms.
I can't If I'm going to dosports with my children, which I
know I'm going to have to dowith him, we will not be
traveling up and down the road.
I don't have that type ofschedule to do that.
You know, to always be inanother city, in another state,
(31:27):
that is a lot, but I don't downwhatever is meant to be for the
child and if you have the timeand the go and the notion which
a lot of people do, go for it'sa once in a lifetime.
I just know that I can't.
Concerning my schedule, I haveclients on the books two, three
months out.
So I definitely pinpoint myschedule to accommodate my
children.
I will literally write in myschedule book a year in advance
(31:49):
for our vacations, for ourholidays and when the season
will be when I could dosomething for him.
I have noticed a lot of things.
My older two are very laid back, very relaxed, and don't ask
for anything.
I literally have to push themout.
Hey, what do you want to do?
You know, go do this, go, dothat versus the other one, one.
(32:09):
I'm saying calm down, wait yourturn, not yet you already did
it.
Hold on, you know.
So it is so, so different.
But, um, today has so manydifferent things.
Just to kind of put your kidsout there, you know, and you can
pace it some kids more quickerand more often than some kids
not.
You know, know we havedifferent things going on.
(32:30):
And then you also have whereyou can, like you said, get with
the school and allow them toplay sports, if so, you know,
and be involved in with otherkids.
There's community things withthe library.
There's so much more.
Out here you have Facebook thatwill show you what's going on
in the cities near you, up anddown the road.
So there's so much to do and somuch to learn for these kids.
(32:50):
It doesn't matter what levelthey're on, introvert or not,
you know.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Now I want to ask you I guess they would be two
separate questions because I geta lot of people that say to me
oh, I'd love to homeschool but Ican't because I'm a single mom,
or I'd love to homeschool but Ican't because I'm a working mom
.
You have both of these, solet's break it up.
The single mom.
At some point you and theirfather split.
(33:16):
You said yes.
So what was your thought?
Oh, I might need to put theminto school so I can make this
work.
No, not at all, actually, how?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
did you do it.
So it happened pretty fast.
I was already the onehomeschooling them.
He was working, so that wassomething that was already on my
plate.
So that was a no brainer in mytransitioning and becoming a
single parent.
I just had to readjust somethings.
I had to sit down with myschedule.
But I come to find out, when itcomes down to my schedule as a
(33:47):
working mom, as a single mom,that I do this on the yearly and
seasonally.
I kid you not.
I feel like if you are a busyperson, this is something that
you should be doing often Everytwo to three months.
I'm sure something's switchingup for you.
So I would just readjust.
I literally I think when Ibecame a single mom I was
working probably five, six daysa week, depending.
(34:08):
But I know when COVID happenedI was not working.
I was off for about two and ahalf, three months and then,
because I'm a beautician, I donails and I do other things in
the community weddings and stufflike that.
But I had other things to makemoney as well and by the time I
went back to work, I started offpart-time to see what was going
(34:31):
on.
I did not go back full-timewith clients.
I started part-time to get mychildren adjusted, to get myself
adjusted, and then I was ableto take on and even by now I'm
working like three and a halffour days.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
So the older two, they were probably.
Were they old enough to stayhome, Like if mom had to go to
work it was fine, but you dohave your youngest son.
How did you make that work?
Like you know, do you havefamily or the father.
That would help out.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah.
So my well, we were not on goodterms in divorce and he was not
happy with that.
So, unfortunately.
But I did have family help mewith the youngest.
The other two they was able todo their studies no problem by
this time.
They need minimal help andthey're strictly online, so that
worked out perfectly.
So, family, I did have help withthe little one and then, as the
(35:23):
boys were old enough, betweenfamily and then their brothers,
and then sometimes coming overto work.
So we just, you know, did whatwe could.
It's a very small niche for me,I know, not everybody has that.
And then there's some peoplewho have a whole lot of family.
I did not have a whole lot offamily to help, it was just my
mom and my two boys, but by thetime they were old enough,
(35:44):
they're like mom, we got them.
You know, I'm like, are you sure?
And he wasn't doing school atthat time.
He could literally just play,you know, do X, y and Z.
But by the time school came andpeople were like how are you
going to do that?
I'm like so unconventionalabout everything that I do.
So in between their home,relaxing, my mom stays with me.
Now, you know, if it's notgrandma, it's the brothers.
(36:05):
You know, we're all takingturns and, like I said, I have a
shorter schedule now, butliterally sometimes we're doing
school at night, sometimes it'son the weekends, sometimes it's
in the mornings, depending whatdays that I'm off, or even after
work.
I will still do school with him.
I have a criteria set for theyear.
This is how much we have left.
I keep checking it and I haveto just say, hey, this is my
(36:27):
goal for the week.
And even he'll remind me hey,mom, are we doing laptop time
today or are we doing workbooktime today?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
You know, so we have our little unconventional rhythm
.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
It's all on what you want to do.
As a single mom and as aworking mom, I know society can
be very tiresome now, but if youdon't have the drive for it
then you might have to readjustyour schedule to make sure that
your children get what they need.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, it's hard.
I left my job to homeschool thekids but because I started the
podcast when I was on maternityleave with my littlest and that
was like well, I started it notintending for it to be like you
know this like business typething, I was just genuinely
curious about homeschoolingfamilies.
(37:11):
I hadn't decided yet if I wasgoing to homeschool but I knew I
wasn't happy with what I washearing about the school system.
I wasn't even happy with whatwas going on in my son's private
preschool, which was at achurch, and he would tell me
that even though I wrote a noteinto them saying I don't want
hand sanitizer on him, they weredoing it anyway and it's like
(37:33):
how are you just putting aproduct of chemicals on his
hands?
and the best part too.
They would say okay, everyparent has to take turns
bringing in a snack for snackday.
Please don't bring anythinghomemade, please bring healthy
things like goldfish.
So you, I can't make homemademuffins, but I can bring
goldfish with whatever chemicalsare in the like a three four
age group and he was four he wasthe oldest, but there are three
(38:16):
year olds in it that the nextyear they went to the public
school for a full day preschool,just because it was basically
full time daycare paid for byyour taxes.
But it is there.
So, yeah, that's why I startedthe podcast was can I really
homeschool?
And let me hear other people'sthoughts on it and their process
.
And then now it kind of hasturned into like all right, well
(38:38):
, I have to run the Instagrampage, I have to run this for, so
I try to get it done in themorning, but you find like right
now we're interviewing at nightbecause it was just better for
your schedule and it's no bigdeal because my husband's home
with them, but it's like tryingto be flexible, and so you have
(38:59):
this element of okay, I want tohave a routine for my kids, but
at the same time, that's justnot how our life is.
You have to be flexible.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
And.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I think that's teaching them something too.
You know about about being aworker, and you know about about
being a worker and you knowjust doing what you have to get
done.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, everything, good or bad, teaches your
children everything you know.
Why not guide and direct themthe best that you can and what
you're acclimated to?
But one thing they will alwaysknow from me is that we will
always be okay and that this ishow you do do this and this is
how you do that.
I remember, I think, the firstmaybe two years.
(39:37):
They're like Mom.
Every time something reminds meof something.
Oh, by the way, it's a teachingmoment, mom, we're not doing
school Actually.
Yes, every day, all day, isschool.
I'm just going to let you knownow.
If I see something and there isa lesson in it, I'm going to
let you know.
To let you know now.
If I see something and there isa lesson in it, I'm gonna let
you know.
So now they know.
You know it took a while, butthey're like okay, yes, ma'am
all right you know, and Iactually was cleaning my closet
(39:59):
the other day and came across acard and my boys were just
saying thank you so much, evenwhen you think we're not
listening to everything youtaught us.
And blah, blah, blah, blah,blah and I was like wow, wow, it
pays off.
You know, you have the rightnotions to say, hey, life is
crazy.
But if you just you can'tpredict how you're going to move
(40:20):
, but you will be okay if youhave X, y and Z, if you could
teach that.
But if you could teach what youcan to them, you know, or guide
them to even other people, thatcan give more nuggets to
whatever you haven't had, causeI didn't have a lot growing up,
but now I have so much for them.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
You know, and I think about that a lot too, like
about my childhood, and you know, like.
Oh, I didn't have this, Ididn't have that, but it all
made me who I am today to beable to change things for my
kids.
And then I'm like, well, if Igive them too easy of childhood,
they're not going to learnanything.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
So I'm going to be a little hard on them.
I can't make it too, too easy.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Hey everyone, this is Cheryl.
I want to thank you so much forchecking out the podcast.
I'm going to keep this shortand sweet because I know your
time is valuable.
I want to ask you a seriousquestion Do your kids know what
to do to actually save theirlife in an emergency?
The most important thing we cantalk to our kids about is
knowing their first and lastname, knowing mom and dad's
first and last name, mom's phonenumber, dad's phone number,
(41:17):
their address, what to do ifthey get lost, what to do if
someone who's watching them hasa heart attack, a stroke, an
accident where they fall andyour child needs to get help.
We live in a world where there'sno landline phones anymore,
basically, and cell phones lock.
Does your child know how tocall 911 from a locked cell
phone?
It is absolutely possible, andmy book demonstrates how to do
(41:40):
that, whether it's an Android,whether it's an iPhone and, most
importantly, it starts theconversation, because I was
going through homeschoolingcurriculum with my kids,
realizing that, gee, maybe theyskim over this stuff, but they
don't get into depth, so mychild's not going to remember
this should an accident occur,right?
I asked a couple of teacherswhat they do in school and they
(42:02):
said they really don't doanything either other than talk
about what to do in a fireduring the month of october fire
prevention month.
So I wrote a book because thisis near and dear to my heart.
I have had multiple friends thathave lost kids in tragedies,
and I don't want to see ithappen again if it doesn't have
to.
We were at the fair over thesummer, and the first thing I
said to my son when we walkedthrough that gate was what's my
(42:24):
first and last name, what isyour first and last name and
what is my phone number?
And if you get lost, what areyou going to do?
You can get my book on Amazon,and I will put the link in my
show's description.
Again, it's called let's TalkEmergencies, and I really hope
you'll check it out, becausethere's just no need to be
scared when you can chooseprepared.
I love what you said, though,about the mistakes.
(42:48):
You learn in those too, andlike perfect example, I mean
mistakes that I make.
Yes, I try to say like if I amfrustrated and I just yell and
blow up the kid and scream athim or tell him I'm sending you
to school.
You know me 10 minutes or anhour or even the next day saying
to them hey, you know whenmommy blew up the other day and
(43:08):
like yelled at you guys, I'msorry, I shouldn't have done
that.
That wasn't the right reaction.
You know, doing that teachesthem that we can apologize.
We can you know, acknowledgethat we were wrong and that
really is good for them in thelong run, even for himself.
He was doing a little like youcan get from Amazon the little
(43:29):
STEM robot things, and they putthe robot together and he
couldn't figure out why itwasn't running.
And as my husband's looking atit, he's like, ah, dude, you put
like the brackets on the wrongway, the very first step they're
going the wrong way.
And he's like so mad at himselfRight and.
I'm like well, listen, buddy,you learned from that.
(43:51):
Like now, next time you'regoing to be so much more careful
, even from step one, when itlooks so easy We've all done
that.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Can you talk to me?
Speaker 1 (43:58):
a little bit about and this would go into your
reporting requirements inVirginia but also getting them
to graduation Like what doesthat look like?
What constitutes a diploma inyour state, how is it obtained
and are they really like readyfor the next step, whether that
be college or not?
I don't really push collegeanymore now that I know the
(44:21):
reality of it and the realreason behind it.
But sometimes you do need it forwhatever the kid wants to go
into.
So how did you, as you'repreparing them in their later
teenage years, to go into?
So how did you, as you'repreparing them in their later
teenage years, making sure thatthey are ready for the next step
?
And what legally did you haveto get done on paper to make
sure that they are quote unquotegraduated?
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Well, it's pretty simple and it's a little tedious
in certain areas, depending.
Concerning college, I didobserve my children growing up
on what they are capable of andwhat direction they may be going
in.
We have spoken on it allthrough high school, so my first
two are not going to a collegewhich hints their moms into
trade as well.
You know, I'm a speaker, I am acontent creator, I'm a master
(45:05):
nail technician, I have my ownsalon, so I know how to make
money with my hands and what Ido and, stepping out, I'm doing
a brow course next month beforeValentine's and that day, with
seven women, I'll be making like$300, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Don't look at mine, don't look too closely over here
.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
No, that's okay, overplucked in my teenage years,
that's okay, I'm just teachingthem a natural beat and a glam
beat.
In between your makeup artists,you know, when you're doing
events and stuff, I have clientsthat are all through the
government and what I consideroffice work and you know
different careers, so they'realways looking good for their
events and stuff like that.
So I'm always teaching peopleon how to build their business
(45:47):
what they're good at with theirhands.
So my oldest hands down, like Isaid, it's been into computers.
I am pushing him.
He's currently doingcertificates and right before
paying for these certificates toget him into some companies.
I was actually really blessedto get them for free.
I had a client contact me,connect me with a company who
was doing some courses and thenhe can get in with that company
(46:10):
and security clearance forworking with them.
So he's currently working onthat.
Still.
And my second one he said hewants to go into trade HVAC and
start like that.
As I told him, when you movestate to state, whatever you do,
you need to be making moneywith how today is Okay.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah, that's what my husband does.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
He does commercial HVAC which isn is something that
they really teach kids about.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
They kind of just think of it as like installing
in someone's attic.
But my husband works on jails,hospitals, schools.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Nice, he will always have work.
Yes, he will always have work,because businesses and homes.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
It involves everything electrical plumbing
so like your welding.
He knows it all.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
But yet it's belittled.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
So in the school system that like oh, you're
going to crawl in an attic andput in someone's pipe.
It's so much more than that.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
I tell you, if your pipe breaks, you're going to be
in need and you're going to behurt.
Yeah, that's big money.
So, yes, my second one wants todo something as simple as that
and not as simple.
It involves a lot, um, butthere's still more things.
I tell them just to constantlystudy and build and acclimate
yourself with.
But concerning the next steps ingraduation now, because they
(47:26):
don't have to do that the nextsteps, I take that back because
they're not going to college perse.
They they're doing courses whenyou go to college and when
you're preparing.
They're part of an outreach.
We're part of an outreach.
Who?
They were able to be able towalk down an aisle and graduate
with other homeschoolers.
So they had a ceremony and theyare also given a diploma.
(47:47):
They had pictures done.
That was when I was saying that.
They had graduation dinner,they had a graduation cruise,
they had prom, they haddifferent things.
So I could give them theexperience and not try to build
everything from scratch on myown, because I'll definitely do
that, but it's easier, it helps.
So I was happy to see that thisparticular outreach.
(48:08):
They've done chess, they'vedone drama, they've done sign
language.
It is a very nice.
So what I say is to involveyourself with a program near or
far, because some people do goall the way to Florida for a
BECA for graduation.
Get with an outreach so thatyou can obtain your diploma.
But you do have to be signed upwith your state and reporting
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to the state and keep in contactwith them that, hey, they're
graduating this year.
You're meeting the criteria forthe basics.
I know Virginia has the basicsof the four math, english,
science and social studies isthe basics and that you just
have to turn in every year thatthey are doing this work.
You're turning in your work.
That's for me.
I don't do the SATs and stuff.
(48:52):
I opt out because a lot of kidsand a lot of people have test
anxiety.
I believe in.
I did nursing, I did collegecourses in high school and for
the life of me I knew thecriteria but kept getting
answers wrong.
But I did notice that theanswers would be flipped.
They ask you the same questionbut they're asking for a
(49:13):
different answer.
There was a different amount ofthings.
So the SATs do the same.
So I was an advanced diploma inhigh school and knowing that,
okay, there's some test anxiety.
They're just going up and downand they're like playing games
with you.
It's different if it was just,like you know, just written out.
So I knew that I didn't wantthem to be based off of that.
(49:34):
And now, if you're doing college, please, all means, you're
going to need all of that, youknow.
And also, if you are acclimatedwith the homeschool programs
that are connected to the publicschool systems, it will be
easier because you're already onthat path.
We have had an unconventionalpath.
It is kind of straight fromscratch.
So you want to do the SATs, youwant to do all the testings,
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they do not give the diploma.
They recognize it but they donot give the diplomas.
So as long as you're connectedto a program, as long as you're
saying, hey, I have this program, this is my county and my state
, I have my paperwork, you justgot to stay on top of keeping
your everything together foryour transcripts, diploma with
the outreach and the school.
(50:17):
This is the school districtthat we're in in the county and
you can go ahead because thisoutreach that we're part of
there is students going tocollege and they go early too.
Some of them graduate early andgo.
So it's all on what path you'reon, you can do it.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
You can definitely do it homeschooling and what your
requirements are, and I believethey will.
If you, maybe if you're amember, they cause that stuff is
(50:57):
all free, but if you're amember, they might give you a
diploma as well, as long asyou've done everything that you
needed to do as far as reportingto your district.
Yeah, I did hear that.
Right and yeah, and I've hadpeople on the podcast saying
that they had their kids takingcollege courses as part of their
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homeschooling and they're a lotcheaper when you take it as a
high schooler.
Oh, nice, so they actually gotthese courses like under their
belt, so that by the time theywent to college they were
already a year or two in.
So they didn't have to pay thatheavy tuition for that the
first year or two.
So there are a lot of options.
(51:40):
I'm hoping to get somethingtogether where I can, like you
know, make it easy for people tosee, no matter what age your
kids are and it keeps changing.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
I do notice that each year it keeps changing.
We get more and more.
You know like we have more todo.
You know more to involve.
But I will say, if your child,once your child, gets in eighth
and ninth grade, please startlooking into those things.
You know what that looks likefor you, the direction y'all
might be possibly going, so thatyou can be able to get
(52:08):
everything lined up the way youwould like to get it lined up as
much as possible.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
You know it just helps.
You kind of get a general idea.
So as we close up, is there anylike parting words?
You wanted people to be leftwith or anything you wanted to
let them know that you'reworking on.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Okay, well, I want to first say keep going, don't
stop, unless it's definitely notfor you.
If you've been in five yearsand you're just not having any
kind of love, just don't downyour kid, don't down you.
The path could not possibly befor you, but for most people.
There's a lot of changehappening for the homeschoolers
(52:47):
and it's a lot of good thingsgoing on.
So just, there's so muchinformation out At the same time
.
There's so much information outat the same time.
There's not.
There's way more informationout now and this is an amazing
tool I'm so happy to be part ofand what you're doing.
This is amazing and kudos toyou for that.
So I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Absolutely.
But I go Vibe with C and I'mall things for elevating your
mind and your soul, and you cancatch me on YouTube.
Vibe with C, that's C-E, andFacebook as well is CC Harris,
and it has in parentheses onenail fetish.
But I am just a content creatorpushing out to show people
(53:27):
things with business life, beinga mom, a boy mom.
And my motto is you're neverstuck, so I'm happy to be here.
I like that motto.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
There's always something changing.
Yeah, it is.
That's awesome, Cece.
Thank you so much for beinghere today and sharing with us
your awesome story.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
I'm so happy to be here.
Thank you so much for happeningto run past me on Facebook that
day.
I saw it and I just thought Iwould throw something your way
and you came back and contactedme and I was like, wow, she's
for real, okay.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
I'm so glad you did.
Yes, yes, thank you so much,bye-bye.
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Welcome to this week's episode of the Homeschool
How-To.
I'm Cheryl and I invite you tojoin me on my quest to find out
why are people homeschooling,how do you do it, how does it
differ from region to region?
And should I homeschool my kids?
Stick with me as I interviewhomeschooling families across
the country to unfold theanswers to each of these
(00:26):
questions week by week.
Welcome, and with us today Ihave Cece.
She has been homeschoolingbefore.
It was even cool, so I amreally excited to hear her story
today.
Cece, welcome to the show.
Thanks for being here hear herstory today.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Cece, welcome to the show.
Thanks for being here, thankyou.
Thank you.
I'm so happy to be here.
I'm glad that I caught yourthread on Facebook.
When I did, I was verysurprised to hear you contact me
on something like this, so I'mreally really happy to get with
you on it.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
So why don't you begin by telling us how many
kids you have and their ages?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Okay, I have three boys homeschool mom for 14 years
.
I am 39.
I know a lot of people wonderand think that I am a lot
younger.
I am 39.
I am a divorced mom so I wasmarried majority.
I married at 19.
And my oldest two are 16 monthsapart, 19 and 18.
(01:22):
So I have one graduatehomeschool, one graduating this
year and I have a first graderand I am a serial entrepreneur
currently.
But when I started them and formajority of my first two I was
home.
I was a stay at home mom as Igot started.
So I have a big expansion to goin.
Like you said before, it wascool Cause I definitely got the
(01:44):
eyeballs then versus now theeyes are on me.
I need help, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yes, all right.
So why don't we start with whateven made you want to
homeschool in the first place?
Are you Amish?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I'm kidding, that's right.
We were just talking about howthat was kind of close in the
year, so this was so if youroldest is 19,.
This was about 14 years ago, soyeah, this was like pretty
early on, way before COVID.
Yes, what made you startwanting to homeschool?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Way before COVID.
So, being a stay-at-home mom,my free time was led up with
them.
They were going to a privateschool at church.
So, with that being said, thechurch was moving vastly and
expanding and they were changingsome of the rules and
regulations in which we agreedon.
But they started changing somerules that I didn't agree on and
(02:33):
, even though I'm not againstgetting your children checked
for being on the spectrum, theywanted me to get my oldest son
checked.
They say he was not a problemchild, he was on a roll student.
But he had a teacher who was 21and kept asking him to focus
during courses and during class.
She said he was justdaydreaming.
(02:53):
So I was like, okay, what's theproblem?
He's six.
He was six at the time.
So it started changing for theworse and I started getting
little letters on his agendaquite frequently.
It changed to every day and Ithink that the relationship
started changing because Istarted seeing the change of his
demeanor.
Then it changed to theclassroom and the school.
So now there's a problem.
(03:15):
And then the principal asked meto get him checked.
Actually, he didn't ask me, heasked me forcibly I need you to
get him checked and you have amonth.
I said excuse me.
So now I see that there's aproblem in the church and I just
didn't know what happened overthe course of just a few months
over him just not focusing.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Right, it wasn't like he was acting out hurting other
kids.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Interrupting, not even interrupting other kids
during tests or anything.
He's very quiet to himself.
Actually, this is my ITT whizkid.
He built his computer fromscratch.
When I say motherboard, I don'teven know all the terminology.
I told him I could tell you howto produce your business,
however, that I don't know howto speak that lingo, but he is
very smart and entailed in theITT field.
So he's a whiz kid.
(03:58):
He was just bored, so he's aself-teacher.
He teaches himself things and Ididn't find out until I pulled
him and homeschooled him.
So for that very reason I toldhim I'm not in agreement with it
.
We will continue to pay for theschooling for two more months.
School will be done.
I will be bringing home mychildren.
So for the first two years I didsee that it was very difficult,
(04:18):
and that's what I teach a lotof people.
When you're homeschooling thefirst year or two, it's going to
be very prominent that you havemuch patience because you're
becoming the teacher as well asthe parent, and they have to
understand that.
So not only do you have to getacclimated to them, they have to
get acclimated to you and youhave to give it time if this is
(04:41):
what you're really serious ondoing, your whole world is going
to change between the both ofyou.
So when that happened, I didnotice that it was hard for him
to focus on certain things.
But happened.
I did notice that it was hardfor him to focus on certain
things, but as soon as I said,hey, he was on it.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Okay, mom, I got you, so I was like okay, but I did
realize that put him into adepression for three years.
I had to pull him up out ofWell, how old was he at this
time when you took him out?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
He was six, six, okay , yeah, he was six.
That's a very early age to Ithink.
Well, that age is encounteringway more today now I can say,
but at that time that was a veryearly age to have depression
and worry about people coming atyou.
So I had to do some very, veryhard talks with him and keeping
him close and he grew out of itand had an amazing senior year.
(05:23):
I will say, if I speed it up,so I'm really happy that I put
that work in and I was happy totake them in on my own because I
am a teacher at heart.
I teach a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Did you ever think, oh, let me put him in like just
a different private school orthe public school, like what
made you say like, oh, I'm goingto homeschool.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, I was going to.
My first inkling was you knowwhat, let me switch them over to
public school.
But then I had this gut feelingoh my, oh, my goodness, if I
have these ideologies and thesesimilar pretenses of life with
this church, how is it going tobe for public school?
Oh my gosh, like how are theygoing to do with him?
(06:00):
And especially the depressionthat he was going through.
So that bothered me.
It kept pushing in on me, andboth his grandmas are teachers
too.
So I talked to them and spokewith them and I just kept
getting that notionhomeschooling and it was so
uncommon at that time.
But I took the plunge and I wasreally really nervous, really
really nervous.
(06:20):
The education was no problem.
I'm advanced in that area.
It was like what do I do?
How do I start?
But the good thing is I hadsome courses underneath of me
and I also know that they wereable to switch from their course
and do it underneath of me too,because they were on what was
it called?
I think it starts with an A.
It was a long time ago, butit's an academy and you could
(06:42):
even graduate with them throughthem.
It was a Becca.
They were underneath of a Beccaat the time.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
So they were able to easily transition.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
That's pretty strict and rigid.
Well, yeah, now back in the day, you can do that.
Now we have so much technologyand AI, I teach my third son
completely different.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
There's nothing near that, and I love that you have
that vast age group that you'vebeen doing, because you have
learned so much on the way.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
So we're going to unpack all that.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Now you had a son that was a year younger than
this son, right?
And you said I'm going to justpull them both.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yes, I did pull them both.
There was starting to be somebias and some other things going
on with their hair and actuallyit is the same ethnicity as
mine as far as the church, butthere was some differences going
on.
I couldn't take one out and dothe other and it still worked
the same way when I did for themto keep them both together
instead of having one out andone in.
(07:41):
So the youngest the youngest.
He was five, so it was OK.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And you know, I think it's easy for you maybe going
through it at the time to say,oh, maybe the depression was
caused by taking him out ofschool and homeschooling him.
But you know I'm looking at itkind of a different way that he
would have gone through thatdepression anyway, but he was
home with you and you were ableto see it so you could have
those conversations.
I think there's a good chancethe depression would have
(08:09):
happened whether he was in theprivate school, the public
school or homeschool.
Yeah, just because sometimes itis a chemistry thing going on
in our brain and the way thatlike puberty functions, and I
think right now in schoolsthey're taking advantage of that
and that's where the do youthink you might be the opposite
gender here?
Pfizer came up with a drug wecould give you to fix that, you
know.
So I think that it's just socommon.
(08:32):
But the fact that he was homewith you, you were able to see
it and get him through that whenyou know, I don't think that
the depression was caused bybeing home, like just not that I
know anything about your familyor your son, but I just think
that, being home, you were ableto see this.
It was actually a gift that hewas home with you.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yes, I didn't have as much distractions.
If you want to say that, workcan definitely cause that and
now, being a serial entrepreneur, I can still catch those things
.
I can still see that, oh, Ineed to change my schedule, I
need to spend more time in thisarea.
I have done that over the years, especially when my oldest son
was doing graduation.
(09:10):
I had to change my schedule sothat he would meet his meetings,
that he can do his graduationdinner, so I could give him the
whole year.
And I tell you, because he wasvery, very much into himself and
shunned away from people for awhile, because of that
experience he's very muchintrovert and I know that a lot
(09:32):
of homeschool kids can be, buthe was very much introvert
because of the situation.
He definitely remembers it.
But he did allow me.
I coached him for two years forhis senior year, to do his, his
photos, his senior photos,because he wouldn't even let me
take pictures.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So he let me take pictures of him.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
He gave me smiles like I could see him blossom and
through his senior year I justlike listen, we're never going
to get this year back.
This will be a memory andyou'll get fragments.
This will be a memory andyou'll get fragments, but with
pictures and videos, you'llstart to remember many things
versus trying to remember itfrom your mind as you become an
adult.
So don't take that from you,don't take that from me, and I
(10:12):
want you to have this.
So I made it very memorable forhim.
Although we're homeschoolingdoesn't mean we can't have the
experience.
I feel like it's all about theparents, initiation and how to
give to that child, becausewe're guiding them through it
all and preparing them foradulthood, you know.
So he gave me and himself avery good experience and at the
(10:33):
end he hugged me, said thank you, thank you so much for all you
did, and I was like, yes, ok, wemet the criteria.
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If I can ask you this now, whydidn't you want him tested to
(11:52):
see if there was something?
I mean now you can like.
I can look at my son and I'mlike, OK, he's got ADD.
Like if my kid were in aclassroom, they'd be telling me
he needs meds.
So is it that you you know somepeople might listen to it and
be like, oh, she's in denial.
If he doesn't want his picturetaken, clearly something's off.
Or is it just that you wantedto be able to let him thrive in
(12:14):
the environment that wassuitable for him, Because in the
end, he's very good atcomputers, building things,
paying attention to detail,teaching himself.
He learns a different way thanwhat the traditional classroom
provides.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yes, and that's what I have found out concerning my
children, concerning kids period, I can also say because my mom
has daycare management as wellas running her own daycare in
the past, she has nursingunderneath her belt some similar
things that runs in my familythat at eight years old I was
basically a teacher assistant.
So I was out here giving andhelping and showing other
(12:49):
children and teaching them, or Ishould say, I should say I
started from the womb with myyoungest sister, who's two years
younger than me, so with my sonI realized it was like you say
it was nothing crazy going on.
I'm like, okay, we have aproblem here, what's going on?
And I just had the inkling justto let me pull them out, let me
see what's going on for myselfbefore I move any further.
(13:10):
But I just did not feel to letsomeone bully me to tell me, hey
, but we never, they never saidhey, ms Harris, can we sit down
and have a meeting?
Can I show you these reports?
It was never that.
So I think it was just the waythat it was done for me to say,
okay, you know, if anything'sgoing to taint my children, it's
going to be me.
I want the best for them.
(13:30):
Let me sit down and see what'sgoing on here, because I will
say that today is way moreprominent.
You know, everyone has issues.
There's big and small ones.
Let's see it through.
And that's even hard for theparents to do, because parents
are having issues too with whatwe're facing with society.
So a long time ago it was morepeaceful, there wasn't so much
(13:51):
drama and it was.
Let me be one-on-one with mychildren and let me see what's
going on hand before I moveforward.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So as the kids kind of got older and you started
getting used to homeschooling,you were a couple of years in,
say, at this point did you stickwith a Becca?
Did you try something different?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Well, I definitely tried other things.
I believe they did a Becca forabout another three, about three
years roughly give or take.
By the time they got to middleschool I realized they were
getting bored.
So I switched to K-12.
Because we moved to Georgia, Iswitched to K-12 and realized I
(14:28):
did not like it.
My motto is, if you're ahomeschool parent, that your
children should not fail.
Your children should not lingerNot that they don't have issues
, but I feel like it's easier toit should be easier to focus on
their issues.
You know their assets, whatthey're great at versus what
they're weak at, guide them, mapit out for the year.
You can create your ownschedule to figure out how to
(14:51):
successfully get your childthrough that year.
That's what I feel.
If your child is failing, itmight not be for you, and I'm
not saying the first year, ifthis is an ongoing thing, then
you guys might not have just thechemistry to work together,
depending on what's going on,and that's okay.
But I realized that with K-12,there's another teacher and
(15:13):
there was something I physicallyhelped my son on during science
and she gave him like a D and Icouldn't understand why she
gave him a D and I spoke to herand she still said that he was
getting this D.
That's when I was like, oh no,okay, sorry, we can't do this,
because I guided him through thebook.
(15:33):
He did it on his own.
Then I did it with him and then, if someone else is telling me
that this is it, I was like, no,I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
So is K-12 like an online school?
So is K-12 like an onlineschool?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So K-12, when I was in Georgia, you were able to
meet up and do activities.
However, it was online.
It was book work and online.
So it wasn't too much online,not like the teacher was
teaching online.
It was like here's yourassignments and you had teachers
to.
I guess reference to that'swhere the problem was, because
(16:06):
I'm still teaching at home andthen it's not like this was the
definite answer in this bookthat gives the answers.
You know the key books.
It wasn't anything like thatthere was just it was kind of a
limbo, you know, like almostlike a theory, like hey, if the
shower has all this heat, whydoes the shower curtain sink in
type of thing?
Has all this heat?
Why does the shower curtainsink in type of thing?
I was like, oh wait wait, wait.
(16:27):
Trying to talk it over and hestill got that grade that didn't
settle with me.
So yeah, I remember sociologybeing like that in college.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I remember like walking out of tests thinking I
got everything right, everysingle thing Like it all made
sense to me.
And I kept putting a 70 on itand I'm like, no, I could fight,
I could like argue why I'mright, but it's not how the
teacher saw it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Right, right, and I think that that is very
important as a teacher to beable to see the different ways
that people can see something.
If that answer there's plentyof answers that are broad,
dependent on the subject, andthen you have certain subjects
that there's a definite answerand there are keys for that, you
know.
So I did not agree with K-12.
I do refer that program topeople who their children have
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already been in school and theywant to homeschool due to
whatever with the systemsconcerning all the stuff the
schools are going throughcurrently, for their health and
well-being or for their mentalstability.
I definitely refer K-12 forthat reason, but I tell them
it's just because it'sadjustment and I don't suggest
you fully homeschool unlessyou're ready.
So there's other key elements,but that is a good one if you're
(17:36):
taking them out of a publicschool, I feel.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Okay.
So how did your second son dowith the homeschooling
throughout the years?
Did you do group meetups forlike to get friends or sports,
you know, because thesocialization is such a big fear
mongering tactic to scarepeople away from homeschooling.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yes, so I definitely have a story with that.
My second son.
He did really good when he gotbetween 10 and 12.
He did bug me on going andtransitioning to public school.
I think it was because I had afriend who her children were in
public school and they, you know, they hung out.
So he bugged me and then I gotso busy with my business I was
(18:18):
really contemplating onswitching them to public school,
and the more that I keptteaching them and getting them
ready for school, the more I waslike, oh, my goodness, they're
not going to be able to do it,because how I'm teaching them to
think for themselves, to askquestions, do this, and that I'm
like, oh, the teachers aregoing to raise havoc.
It might be at least one that'sgoing to be like oh, why are
(18:39):
you questioning me?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
The teachers will think that they're being
sarcastic or facetious me.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
The teachers will think that they're being
sarcastic or facetious.
Yes, I have a younger brother.
That's what happened to himwith his history teacher because
he is very, he holds his headup high and he was like
questioning this is the answerin the book blah blah, blah,
blah blah.
And the teacher tried to failhim.
My mom had to go to the schooland really work things out with
them to say why is this aproblem?
So I was teaching them aboutlockers and this and that and
dealing with different peopleand I just realized I'm going to
(19:09):
have to teach them all overagain.
And then, when they get thereand how they come back, I was
like you know what, nevermind,I'm going to work this out.
So he, after those two years,he got over it very quickly and
he actually was excited to.
You know, be like mom, I'm gladI'm staying home.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Cause he was never actually sent him.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I never did, I never sent them.
It was a thought, it was aconversation.
We spoke about it and I thinkhe, the more we spoke about it,
then he started getting nervous.
But I will say, concerningevents and groups, there wasn't
so much at that time.
For a long time I would dothings that I could try to find
here and there libraries, stufflike that but about five to
(19:52):
seven years I started gettingthem out more because then I was
becoming a community activistand really pushing out in the
community.
So they've done fashion showsand one of them ended up after
that fashion show.
I pushed them on purpose.
I said, hey, do this fashionshow because I was working the
fashion show.
I said you will never have todo it again.
So the oldest introvert one, hedid it, enjoyed it and he was
like no, the next time I said,okay, the second one really
(20:14):
liked it and he did.
He became a model and actuallylast year he walked New York
Fashion Week.
So yeah, and I worked that showwith him as well.
He was the first to be pickedfrom this particular designer
and he did some do.
He did some acting too onYouTube.
So but he's paused on thosethings.
Now he's preparing andsteadfast on his focus for
(20:36):
senior year, so I don't know ifhe's gonna pick it back up.
But he had a good long run withmodeling and he did some um, oh,
he was on DC DC News too.
So yeah, we made some very bigaccolades with him on that one.
So they've done a lot of thingscommunity work I get them
involved.
I have plenty of clients whoare involved in many things up
(20:57):
and down the road, so, includingthe youngest, he's not scared
to talk, he talks business withme.
My notion I tell people is asactive as you're gonna get them
is as active they will be unlessit's already in them like their
characteristic.
But if you don't, then theywill be.
Unless it's already in themlike their characteristic.
But if you don't, then theywill be very introverted because
you're only allotting what theycan do, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah.
So what about your youngest now?
So he's the same age as my son.
They're both six.
So how do you do it differentlywith this?
What have you learned?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Man.
So I've learned that he has asmuch energy as I do.
I am.
I'm everywhere and so is he.
I realized when he was a babythat I was gonna have to keep
him in sports, keep himacclimated.
So once a year I'll put him ina season of something.
He was in soccer last year, didamazing it was a natural
actually.
He was in soccer last year, didamazing it wasn't natural
(21:50):
actually.
So I was like, okay, I'm glad Icaught that and we walk out and
he's talking to people.
So I just know he's going to dosomething with big business and
with money.
He's very in tune to it.
But I do.
I have to keep him going.
He does not shut off untilbedtime.
He does not.
It's completely different.
But because part of his studies, I realized that it's the
opposite and I think that's alot of children today.
(22:17):
He is not a sit down bookperson.
He just became that wayliterally a couple of weeks ago.
I can now do workbooks with him.
Hooked on, phonics was boring tohim.
I had to cancel the app, but Igot him on something new.
That's new for me too.
It's Sofa Tutor, and that is areally good app for young kids.
It keeps him going.
They have games, they havereading.
There's different things tokeep him notioning, emotioning
and getting awards, changing hisprofile picture.
(22:39):
It's very entertaining, so thatwas very fun for him.
That's something that we'vebeen doing and still going.
Good for us.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, I've jumped around with a couple different
curriculums and like even yeah,I was talking on one of my
episodes that we are doing BoyScouts now and it's funny
because when you surroundyourself with other kids that
are in public school and yourkid isn't and has never been, it
is hilarious when they say,okay, line up, and your kid has
(23:08):
no idea what the heck that meansand then you know these kids
are all reading already.
They held up like a board withthe Boy Scout law or whatever
pledge on it.
These kids are all reading itand my.
The only reason why I'mcomfortable with the fact that
he's not reading on his own yetis because I've interviewed
(23:30):
homeschooling families for twoyears now, because if I hadn't
done that I'd be like, oh my God, I'm failing.
I got to put him back in school, but I know that it's okay, his
brain will get there and heloves other things like, like
you said, go and, go and go, andhe's always with his father.
He knows everything aboutvehicles.
He drives a truck.
It's snowing here today in NewYork.
He got on a plow.
(23:51):
He got on his own tractor.
It's his great grandfather's.
He got on the tractor.
They put a plow on it forChristmas and he's plowing.
My husband's not even home,wasn't even home from work yet,
and here's the six-year-oldplowing our driveway.
So I'm like you know what it'sokay if he's not reading, it is
okay.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
It is okay.
It's just a time frame.
It will happen.
I had to adjust to my thirdchild out of three of them.
Two of them had a speechimpediment.
The first one, which is mymiddle son, it was just the S's
and R's, but the last one, it isstrong and it comes from their
father's side of the family.
So I had to guide and coach andfor the longest time he would
(24:30):
get so frustrated because no onecan understand what he's saying
and I tell him, slow down.
But he's doing way better now.
But he does read, but he's notfull-blown reading and, like you
said, it's just all in theschedule every day.
I know he's going to get it.
He's came a long way, just likeyour son, own way, just like
(24:51):
your son.
But there's other great thingsthat they're getting as well.
It's all in timeframe.
But you know, public school isjust like this and we're kind of
like this and we move with ourchildren and how and what, who,
what, when, where, why, you knowit's.
It's a different instinct, butit's okay, I agree.
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You know I'm glad that youmentioned the speech impediment
because I never talk about that.
But my son did too, and youknow I would notice.
And we have friends in ourhomeschooling group where
actually two different moms werespeech teachers and you know
(26:09):
both of them have left that tohomeschool their kids.
But you know both of them haveleft that to homeschool their
kids.
But you know they kind ofbrought it to my attention that
hey, you know, just so you knowhe has.
I forget the verbiage for it now, but they said to me you know,
you, you pay taxes for theschool you are entitled to get
him evaluated at the school andget speech therapy and if they
(26:31):
don't want him in the schoolbecause he doesn't have, you
know, if he's not up to date onvaccinations or whatever,
they're required to come to yourhouse because you pay the taxes
.
So that is something I didn'tknow.
I only happened to know fromthem.
So I did get him evaluated, butyou know I they were.
I mean, it was a fight to gethim evaluated.
Like they were like well, canyou understand him?
Yeah, well then it's probablyfine.
(26:51):
And you know my friend wouldsay no, I can hear a lateral
lisp, I think is what it wasthat she called a lateral lisp.
So my friend gave me some ideas, exercises to do with them, and
YouTube gave me exercises to dowith them.
So we just did those every day.
It took maybe five 10 minutesand yeah, it did probably take a
year but he fixed the Z sound.
(27:11):
I had it all written down thech, the z, the st, the tr, all
that stuff and there's justlittle things you can do, like
putting a little ball on thefloor and then have them blow
through a straw, you know, to godown.
There's just little things youcan do to strengthen those
muscles that.
I don't want parents to feellike oh, my kid needs therapy
(27:34):
for speech.
So therefore I have to send themto school, because one the
school needs to pay for that,for you anyway, or?
Two you still can do ityourself if you don't want to
involve them it's possible.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, that's nice.
That is perfect.
Using youtube, I call ityoutube university it.
It has everything on it.
Not everybody is right, ofcourse, but I correct him.
Some people, I notice, whenthey hear their child speak,
they kind of baby it If you sayum, panny Cake.
I used to say Panny Cake as alittle girl and did not know why
people were laughing at me andbecause they thought it was
(28:06):
funny.
Sisters, cousins, my mom andI'm like what's wrong?
I think I was probably sevenand it's pancake.
But no one said Noah's pancake.
So with him, I corrected his STs.
We will, you know, I'll do thehand, we will say it every time.
Fix it.
And my mom she would say if hewould say his brother's name,
(28:27):
she would copy him and it wouldbe like some a v or something
like that.
That was said wrong.
I said no, don't allow him tosay it the wrong way, we just
keep staying on it.
So now when he says, oh,because it just snowed.
Oh, there's no outside, no,there's snow outside, he has to
say it like that um, there'ssnow.
(28:48):
And I said okay, but this, butthe no, no, there's snow.
Thank you, you know.
So it's just like my memory.
Like you said, practicing themuscles, it is an ongoing thing
but it eventually takes care ofitself.
Maybe I feel like 85, 90percent of the time.
My um middle son.
(29:08):
I don't have to correct him, Ididn't have to do this as long
with him, but the reason my lastson is going through this is
because he didn't keep apacifier but once he got to his
sippy cup he kept the sippy cupin his mouth, just kept it on
his teeth and between his teethand tongue it was like a
security blanket and he gets somad and he would use that just
(29:31):
to calm him down.
And at four I had to four yearsold I had to take that away from
him and throw it in trash andsay it's gone.
I don't know where it went andI had to just practice with him
to teach him how to calm himselfdown and get a different kind
of security blanket.
He has stuffed animals andstuff like that now but because
of that I was like, oh, what didI do?
No other kid had to do it, butI have to keep practicing his
(29:53):
speech with him and keeppracticing so those other tools
that when we let our kids justsuck on things it does mess with
the speech.
Very bad, very, very bad.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
That's interesting.
You would think that thesucking would actually help the
speech, because you're almostusing the muscles when you're
sucking on something.
So you would think that themuscles would be stronger.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, you would think so, but I feel like it
elongated his tongue and then italso did something to his teeth
between the teeth and tongue,so they're not really coming
together.
It was a bad habit, like theopposite way.
So it's getting strong in theopposite way versus doing what
it.
So it's getting strong in theopposite way versus doing what
it's supposed to and himspeaking.
(30:33):
So it delayed him in like, say,a year, like like he's a year
behind in his speech.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
You know I could tell what other kids and now so with
him, so with sports, you knewright away this kid's this kid
is so he needs to be out theredoing competitive things, social
things.
Yes, do you think like, oh, Ishould have done that more with
my older kids, or is theirpersonality just so different?
I just want to ease people'sfears around the socialization
(31:01):
thing, that it doesn't have tobe like 85 sports all year long.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Oh yeah, no.
So I have clients who theirchildren in sports all year.
Oh my gosh, I give my hat offto soccer moms.
I can't If I'm going to dosports with my children, which I
know I'm going to have to dowith him, we will not be
traveling up and down the road.
I don't have that type ofschedule to do that.
You know, to always be inanother city, in another state,
(31:27):
that is a lot, but I don't downwhatever is meant to be for the
child and if you have the timeand the go and the notion which
a lot of people do, go for it'sa once in a lifetime.
I just know that I can't.
Concerning my schedule, I haveclients on the books two, three
months out.
So I definitely pinpoint myschedule to accommodate my
children.
I will literally write in myschedule book a year in advance
(31:49):
for our vacations, for ourholidays and when the season
will be when I could dosomething for him.
I have noticed a lot of things.
My older two are very laid back, very relaxed, and don't ask
for anything.
I literally have to push themout.
Hey, what do you want to do?
You know, go do this, go, dothat versus the other one, one.
(32:09):
I'm saying calm down, wait yourturn, not yet you already did
it.
Hold on, you know.
So it is so, so different.
But, um, today has so manydifferent things.
Just to kind of put your kidsout there, you know, and you can
pace it some kids more quickerand more often than some kids
not.
You know, know we havedifferent things going on.
(32:30):
And then you also have whereyou can, like you said, get with
the school and allow them toplay sports, if so, you know,
and be involved in with otherkids.
There's community things withthe library.
There's so much more.
Out here you have Facebook thatwill show you what's going on
in the cities near you, up anddown the road.
So there's so much to do and somuch to learn for these kids.
(32:50):
It doesn't matter what levelthey're on, introvert or not,
you know.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Now I want to ask you I guess they would be two
separate questions because I geta lot of people that say to me
oh, I'd love to homeschool but Ican't because I'm a single mom,
or I'd love to homeschool but Ican't because I'm a working mom
.
You have both of these, solet's break it up.
The single mom.
At some point you and theirfather split.
(33:16):
You said yes.
So what was your thought?
Oh, I might need to put theminto school so I can make this
work.
No, not at all, actually, how?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
did you do it.
So it happened pretty fast.
I was already the onehomeschooling them.
He was working, so that wassomething that was already on my
plate.
So that was a no brainer in mytransitioning and becoming a
single parent.
I just had to readjust somethings.
I had to sit down with myschedule.
But I come to find out, when itcomes down to my schedule as a
(33:47):
working mom, as a single mom,that I do this on the yearly and
seasonally.
I kid you not.
I feel like if you are a busyperson, this is something that
you should be doing often Everytwo to three months.
I'm sure something's switchingup for you.
So I would just readjust.
I literally I think when Ibecame a single mom I was
working probably five, six daysa week, depending.
(34:08):
But I know when COVID happenedI was not working.
I was off for about two and ahalf, three months and then,
because I'm a beautician, I donails and I do other things in
the community weddings and stufflike that.
But I had other things to makemoney as well and by the time I
went back to work, I started offpart-time to see what was going
(34:31):
on.
I did not go back full-timewith clients.
I started part-time to get mychildren adjusted, to get myself
adjusted, and then I was ableto take on and even by now I'm
working like three and a halffour days.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
So the older two, they were probably.
Were they old enough to stayhome, Like if mom had to go to
work it was fine, but you dohave your youngest son.
How did you make that work?
Like you know, do you havefamily or the father.
That would help out.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah.
So my well, we were not on goodterms in divorce and he was not
happy with that.
So, unfortunately.
But I did have family help mewith the youngest.
The other two they was able todo their studies no problem by
this time.
They need minimal help andthey're strictly online, so that
worked out perfectly.
So, family, I did have help withthe little one and then, as the
(35:23):
boys were old enough, betweenfamily and then their brothers,
and then sometimes coming overto work.
So we just, you know, did whatwe could.
It's a very small niche for me,I know, not everybody has that.
And then there's some peoplewho have a whole lot of family.
I did not have a whole lot offamily to help, it was just my
mom and my two boys, but by thetime they were old enough,
(35:44):
they're like mom, we got them.
You know, I'm like, are you sure?
And he wasn't doing school atthat time.
He could literally just play,you know, do X, y and Z.
But by the time school came andpeople were like how are you
going to do that?
I'm like so unconventionalabout everything that I do.
So in between their home,relaxing, my mom stays with me.
Now, you know, if it's notgrandma, it's the brothers.
(36:05):
You know, we're all takingturns and, like I said, I have a
shorter schedule now, butliterally sometimes we're doing
school at night, sometimes it'son the weekends, sometimes it's
in the mornings, depending whatdays that I'm off, or even after
work.
I will still do school with him.
I have a criteria set for theyear.
This is how much we have left.
I keep checking it and I haveto just say, hey, this is my
(36:27):
goal for the week.
And even he'll remind me hey,mom, are we doing laptop time
today or are we doing workbooktime today?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
You know, so we have our little unconventional rhythm
.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
It's all on what you want to do.
As a single mom and as aworking mom, I know society can
be very tiresome now, but if youdon't have the drive for it
then you might have to readjustyour schedule to make sure that
your children get what they need.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, it's hard.
I left my job to homeschool thekids but because I started the
podcast when I was on maternityleave with my littlest and that
was like well, I started it notintending for it to be like you
know this like business typething, I was just genuinely
curious about homeschoolingfamilies.
(37:11):
I hadn't decided yet if I wasgoing to homeschool but I knew I
wasn't happy with what I washearing about the school system.
I wasn't even happy with whatwas going on in my son's private
preschool, which was at achurch, and he would tell me
that even though I wrote a noteinto them saying I don't want
hand sanitizer on him, they weredoing it anyway and it's like
(37:33):
how are you just putting aproduct of chemicals on his
hands?
and the best part too.
They would say okay, everyparent has to take turns
bringing in a snack for snackday.
Please don't bring anythinghomemade, please bring healthy
things like goldfish.
So you, I can't make homemademuffins, but I can bring
goldfish with whatever chemicalsare in the like a three four
age group and he was four he wasthe oldest, but there are three
(38:16):
year olds in it that the nextyear they went to the public
school for a full day preschool,just because it was basically
full time daycare paid for byyour taxes.
But it is there.
So, yeah, that's why I startedthe podcast was can I really
homeschool?
And let me hear other people'sthoughts on it and their process
.
And then now it kind of hasturned into like all right, well
(38:38):
, I have to run the Instagrampage, I have to run this for, so
I try to get it done in themorning, but you find like right
now we're interviewing at nightbecause it was just better for
your schedule and it's no bigdeal because my husband's home
with them, but it's like tryingto be flexible, and so you have
(38:59):
this element of okay, I want tohave a routine for my kids, but
at the same time, that's justnot how our life is.
You have to be flexible.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
And.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I think that's teaching them something too.
You know about about being aworker, and you know about about
being a worker and you knowjust doing what you have to get
done.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, everything, good or bad, teaches your
children everything you know.
Why not guide and direct themthe best that you can and what
you're acclimated to?
But one thing they will alwaysknow from me is that we will
always be okay and that this ishow you do do this and this is
how you do that.
I remember, I think, the firstmaybe two years.
(39:37):
They're like Mom.
Every time something reminds meof something.
Oh, by the way, it's a teachingmoment, mom, we're not doing
school Actually.
Yes, every day, all day, isschool.
I'm just going to let you knownow.
If I see something and there isa lesson in it, I'm going to
let you know.
To let you know now.
If I see something and there isa lesson in it, I'm gonna let
you know.
So now they know.
You know it took a while, butthey're like okay, yes, ma'am
all right you know, and Iactually was cleaning my closet
(39:59):
the other day and came across acard and my boys were just
saying thank you so much, evenwhen you think we're not
listening to everything youtaught us.
And blah, blah, blah, blah,blah and I was like wow, wow, it
pays off.
You know, you have the rightnotions to say, hey, life is
crazy.
But if you just you can'tpredict how you're going to move
(40:20):
, but you will be okay if youhave X, y and Z, if you could
teach that.
But if you could teach what youcan to them, you know, or guide
them to even other people, thatcan give more nuggets to
whatever you haven't had, causeI didn't have a lot growing up,
but now I have so much for them.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
You know, and I think about that a lot too, like
about my childhood, and you know, like.
Oh, I didn't have this, Ididn't have that, but it all
made me who I am today to beable to change things for my
kids.
And then I'm like, well, if Igive them too easy of childhood,
they're not going to learnanything.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
So I'm going to be a little hard on them.
I can't make it too, too easy.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Hey everyone, this is Cheryl.
I want to thank you so much forchecking out the podcast.
I'm going to keep this shortand sweet because I know your
time is valuable.
I want to ask you a seriousquestion Do your kids know what
to do to actually save theirlife in an emergency?
The most important thing we cantalk to our kids about is
knowing their first and lastname, knowing mom and dad's
first and last name, mom's phonenumber, dad's phone number,
(41:17):
their address, what to do ifthey get lost, what to do if
someone who's watching them hasa heart attack, a stroke, an
accident where they fall andyour child needs to get help.
We live in a world where there'sno landline phones anymore,
basically, and cell phones lock.
Does your child know how tocall 911 from a locked cell
phone?
It is absolutely possible, andmy book demonstrates how to do
(41:40):
that, whether it's an Android,whether it's an iPhone and, most
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going through homeschoolingcurriculum with my kids,
realizing that, gee, maybe theyskim over this stuff, but they
don't get into depth, so mychild's not going to remember
this should an accident occur,right?
I asked a couple of teacherswhat they do in school and they
(42:02):
said they really don't doanything either other than talk
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So I wrote a book because thisis near and dear to my heart.
I have had multiple friends thathave lost kids in tragedies,
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We were at the fair over thesummer, and the first thing I
said to my son when we walkedthrough that gate was what's my
(42:24):
first and last name, what isyour first and last name and
what is my phone number?
And if you get lost, what areyou going to do?
You can get my book on Amazon,and I will put the link in my
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Again, it's called let's TalkEmergencies, and I really hope
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I love what you said, though,about the mistakes.
(42:48):
You learn in those too, andlike perfect example, I mean
mistakes that I make.
Yes, I try to say like if I amfrustrated and I just yell and
blow up the kid and scream athim or tell him I'm sending you
to school.
You know me 10 minutes or anhour or even the next day saying
to them hey, you know whenmommy blew up the other day and
(43:08):
like yelled at you guys, I'msorry, I shouldn't have done
that.
That wasn't the right reaction.
You know, doing that teachesthem that we can apologize.
We can you know, acknowledgethat we were wrong and that
really is good for them in thelong run, even for himself.
He was doing a little like youcan get from Amazon the little
(43:29):
STEM robot things, and they putthe robot together and he
couldn't figure out why itwasn't running.
And as my husband's looking atit, he's like, ah, dude, you put
like the brackets on the wrongway, the very first step they're
going the wrong way.
And he's like so mad at himselfRight and.
I'm like well, listen, buddy,you learned from that.
(43:51):
Like now, next time you'regoing to be so much more careful
, even from step one, when itlooks so easy We've all done
that.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Can you talk to me?
Speaker 1 (43:58):
a little bit about and this would go into your
reporting requirements inVirginia but also getting them
to graduation Like what doesthat look like?
What constitutes a diploma inyour state, how is it obtained
and are they really like readyfor the next step, whether that
be college or not?
I don't really push collegeanymore now that I know the
(44:21):
reality of it and the realreason behind it.
But sometimes you do need it forwhatever the kid wants to go
into.
So how did you, as you'repreparing them in their later
teenage years, to go into?
So how did you, as you'repreparing them in their later
teenage years, making sure thatthey are ready for the next step
?
And what legally did you haveto get done on paper to make
sure that they are quote unquotegraduated?
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Well, it's pretty simple and it's a little tedious
in certain areas, depending.
Concerning college, I didobserve my children growing up
on what they are capable of andwhat direction they may be going
in.
We have spoken on it allthrough high school, so my first
two are not going to a collegewhich hints their moms into
trade as well.
You know, I'm a speaker, I am acontent creator, I'm a master
(45:05):
nail technician, I have my ownsalon, so I know how to make
money with my hands and what Ido and, stepping out, I'm doing
a brow course next month beforeValentine's and that day, with
seven women, I'll be making like$300, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Don't look at mine, don't look too closely over here
.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
No, that's okay, overplucked in my teenage years,
that's okay, I'm just teachingthem a natural beat and a glam
beat.
In between your makeup artists,you know, when you're doing
events and stuff, I have clientsthat are all through the
government and what I consideroffice work and you know
different careers, so they'realways looking good for their
events and stuff like that.
So I'm always teaching peopleon how to build their business
(45:47):
what they're good at with theirhands.
So my oldest hands down, like Isaid, it's been into computers.
I am pushing him.
He's currently doingcertificates and right before
paying for these certificates toget him into some companies.
I was actually really blessedto get them for free.
I had a client contact me,connect me with a company who
was doing some courses and thenhe can get in with that company
(46:10):
and security clearance forworking with them.
So he's currently working onthat.
Still.
And my second one he said hewants to go into trade HVAC and
start like that.
As I told him, when you movestate to state, whatever you do,
you need to be making moneywith how today is Okay.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah, that's what my husband does.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
He does commercial HVAC which isn is something that
they really teach kids about.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
They kind of just think of it as like installing
in someone's attic.
But my husband works on jails,hospitals, schools.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Nice, he will always have work.
Yes, he will always have work,because businesses and homes.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
It involves everything electrical plumbing
so like your welding.
He knows it all.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
But yet it's belittled.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
So in the school system that like oh, you're
going to crawl in an attic andput in someone's pipe.
It's so much more than that.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
I tell you, if your pipe breaks, you're going to be
in need and you're going to behurt.
Yeah, that's big money.
So, yes, my second one wants todo something as simple as that
and not as simple.
It involves a lot, um, butthere's still more things.
I tell them just to constantlystudy and build and acclimate
yourself with.
But concerning the next steps ingraduation now, because they
(47:26):
don't have to do that the nextsteps, I take that back because
they're not going to college perse.
They they're doing courses whenyou go to college and when
you're preparing.
They're part of an outreach.
We're part of an outreach.
Who?
They were able to be able towalk down an aisle and graduate
with other homeschoolers.
So they had a ceremony and theyare also given a diploma.
(47:47):
They had pictures done.
That was when I was saying that.
They had graduation dinner,they had a graduation cruise,
they had prom, they haddifferent things.
So I could give them theexperience and not try to build
everything from scratch on myown, because I'll definitely do
that, but it's easier, it helps.
So I was happy to see that thisparticular outreach.
(48:08):
They've done chess, they'vedone drama, they've done sign
language.
It is a very nice.
So what I say is to involveyourself with a program near or
far, because some people do goall the way to Florida for a
BECA for graduation.
Get with an outreach so thatyou can obtain your diploma.
But you do have to be signed upwith your state and reporting
(48:30):
to the state and keep in contactwith them that, hey, they're
graduating this year.
You're meeting the criteria forthe basics.
I know Virginia has the basicsof the four math, english,
science and social studies isthe basics and that you just
have to turn in every year thatthey are doing this work.
You're turning in your work.
That's for me.
I don't do the SATs and stuff.
(48:52):
I opt out because a lot of kidsand a lot of people have test
anxiety.
I believe in.
I did nursing, I did collegecourses in high school and for
the life of me I knew thecriteria but kept getting
answers wrong.
But I did notice that theanswers would be flipped.
They ask you the same questionbut they're asking for a
(49:13):
different answer.
There was a different amount ofthings.
So the SATs do the same.
So I was an advanced diploma inhigh school and knowing that,
okay, there's some test anxiety.
They're just going up and downand they're like playing games
with you.
It's different if it was just,like you know, just written out.
So I knew that I didn't wantthem to be based off of that.
(49:34):
And now, if you're doing college, please, all means, you're
going to need all of that, youknow.
And also, if you are acclimatedwith the homeschool programs
that are connected to the publicschool systems, it will be
easier because you're already onthat path.
We have had an unconventionalpath.
It is kind of straight fromscratch.
So you want to do the SATs, youwant to do all the testings,
(49:56):
they do not give the diploma.
They recognize it but they donot give the diplomas.
So as long as you're connectedto a program, as long as you're
saying, hey, I have this program, this is my county and my state
, I have my paperwork, you justgot to stay on top of keeping
your everything together foryour transcripts, diploma with
the outreach and the school.
(50:17):
This is the school districtthat we're in in the county and
you can go ahead because thisoutreach that we're part of
there is students going tocollege and they go early too.
Some of them graduate early andgo.
So it's all on what path you'reon, you can do it.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
You can definitely do it homeschooling and what your
requirements are, and I believethey will.
If you, maybe if you're amember, they cause that stuff is
(50:57):
all free, but if you're amember, they might give you a
diploma as well, as long asyou've done everything that you
needed to do as far as reportingto your district.
Yeah, I did hear that.
Right and yeah, and I've hadpeople on the podcast saying
that they had their kids takingcollege courses as part of their
(51:19):
homeschooling and they're a lotcheaper when you take it as a
high schooler.
Oh, nice, so they actually gotthese courses like under their
belt, so that by the time theywent to college they were
already a year or two in.
So they didn't have to pay thatheavy tuition for that the
first year or two.
So there are a lot of options.
(51:40):
I'm hoping to get somethingtogether where I can, like you
know, make it easy for people tosee, no matter what age your
kids are and it keeps changing.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
I do notice that each year it keeps changing.
We get more and more.
You know like we have more todo.
You know more to involve.
But I will say, if your child,once your child, gets in eighth
and ninth grade, please startlooking into those things.
You know what that looks likefor you, the direction y'all
might be possibly going, so thatyou can be able to get
(52:08):
everything lined up the way youwould like to get it lined up as
much as possible.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
You know it just helps.
You kind of get a general idea.
So as we close up, is there anylike parting words?
You wanted people to be leftwith or anything you wanted to
let them know that you'reworking on.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Okay, well, I want to first say keep going, don't
stop, unless it's definitely notfor you.
If you've been in five yearsand you're just not having any
kind of love, just don't downyour kid, don't down you.
The path could not possibly befor you, but for most people.
There's a lot of changehappening for the homeschoolers
(52:47):
and it's a lot of good thingsgoing on.
So just, there's so muchinformation out At the same time
.
There's so much information outat the same time.
There's not.
There's way more informationout now and this is an amazing
tool I'm so happy to be part ofand what you're doing.
This is amazing and kudos toyou for that.
So I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Absolutely.
But I go Vibe with C and I'mall things for elevating your
mind and your soul, and you cancatch me on YouTube.
Vibe with C, that's C-E, andFacebook as well is CC Harris,
and it has in parentheses onenail fetish.
But I am just a content creatorpushing out to show people
(53:27):
things with business life, beinga mom, a boy mom.
And my motto is you're neverstuck, so I'm happy to be here.
I like that motto.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
There's always something changing.
Yeah, it is.
That's awesome, Cece.
Thank you so much for beinghere today and sharing with us
your awesome story.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
I'm so happy to be here.
Thank you so much for happeningto run past me on Facebook that
day.
I saw it and I just thought Iwould throw something your way
and you came back and contactedme and I was like, wow, she's
for real, okay.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
I'm so glad you did.
Yes, yes, thank you so much,bye-bye.
Thank you for tuning into thisweek's episode of the homeschool
how to.
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