November 17, 2025 • 54 mins
A metal icon noticed them first, but the story gets louder from there. We’re sitting with Chained Saint—teens with vintage swagger and modern force—unpacking how a Halford nod, a garage education, and a ruthless love of riffs turned into songs that hit like a live amp.
We get into the DNA of their sound: Sepultura’s gravity, Pantera’s bite, and that Rush sheen hiding in the chorusy leads. Ethan breaks down a no-frills rig built around a JCM 800, Tube Screamer punch, and an EVH Phase 90 for lift, while Sebastian explains the SansAmp-to-Darkglass path that makes “Animosity” cut through in E♭. Cameron talks snare tuning and Grohl-level energy, proving you don’t need a warehouse of gear to land a stadium-ready crack. It’s a masterclass in tone discipline: choose the right tools, then play like you mean it.
Beyond the gear, we talk songwriting and structure—why they refuse to pick between hooks and bridges, and how “1000 Tons” captured the band’s pivot under real pressure. There’s tour grit too: that DC haul up a second-floor stage, the shock on new faces when four young players launch old-soul heaviness, and the joy of making music parents and kids can share without irony. Dream collabs with Drain and Power Trip make perfect sense once you hear how they define the next era in one word: power.
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SPEAKER_08 (00:39):
I thought we were five.
SPEAKER_00 (00:41):
I think what's up, guys.
SPEAKER_08 (00:55):
Welcome back to the show.
I am your host, Harley, joinedby my co-host, Chris, and a
super, super special group ofguys here.
You guys have an incrediblecareer already starting out.
Please welcome Chained Saint tothe show, everybody.
SPEAKER_03 (01:13):
What's up?
SPEAKER_08 (01:14):
What's up?
So let's let's go around theroom and grab names real quick,
just so I I have familiaritywith everybody.
SPEAKER_05 (01:22):
My name is Sean Sterling.
I'm the lead singer of Chancing.
SPEAKER_02 (01:25):
I'm Ethan Khan.
I play lead guitar.
My name's Sebastian.
I play bass.
SPEAKER_04 (01:29):
My name is uh Cameron, I play drums.
SPEAKER_08 (01:33):
Hell yeah, hell yeah.
Um so we're gonna jump into ahandful of your tracks, but uh,
I want to talk to you guys aboutthe incredible achievements you
guys have already had in such ashort period of time.
How did it feel to have what Icould obviously say has got to
be an idol for you guys?
(01:55):
Uh personally put out astatement regarding your band,
Rob Halford.
SPEAKER_03 (02:00):
Oh man, yeah.
I mean, that was just awesome.
That was like, I remember theday I heard about that, at least
for me, I was my dad's like,come downstairs right now, and
he's like, check this out.
And he's like, Look who fuckinglikes Chainsain.
And I'm just like, oh my god,Rob Halford, like it was just
awesome because that's someonewho inspires honestly all of us,
(02:20):
you know, and so especially themusic that we listen to to make
this music.
So knowing that he enjoys it wasjust so fulfilling, you know,
just super cool, dude.
SPEAKER_08 (02:30):
It's it's awesome.
As soon as I saw that, I waslike, that's so fucking cool,
man.
Like to even even have RobHalford acknowledge your
presence has got to beincredible, you know what I
mean?
Um so speaking of the music youguys produce, uh let's go around
the table and and list off someof your guys' influences.
(02:52):
Um where do we want to start?
That's up to you guys.
Who who wants to go first?
SPEAKER_04 (02:56):
We'll reverse it, reverse it.
SPEAKER_08 (02:58):
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_04 (02:58):
All right, we'll start with me.
Um for me, like drumming.
Uh for me, Suppultura, IgorCavallera, that's like the
number one right there.
Um number two is kind of basic,but it's always been like an
artist I've always like justadmired is uh Dave Grohl.
SPEAKER_08 (03:16):
Okay, obviously.
SPEAKER_04 (03:17):
Great drumming.
Um, and then I'll throw one morein, and um I'll probably say
like a newer one is Tim Fliegelfrom Drain.
SPEAKER_08 (03:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (03:28):
My favorite drummers right now, and they just dropped
the record today.
Go check it out too.
SPEAKER_08 (03:32):
That yeah, that yeah, that's awesome, man.
Um, so you you do like some ofthe more like uh like foreign
music.
SPEAKER_04 (03:40):
Uh, I guess, yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (03:42):
Compared to, I mean, foreign in the sense of like
non-American.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02 (03:46):
Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_08 (03:48):
Hell yeah, man.
What about you?
SPEAKER_02 (03:51):
My turn.
All right.
Um, so I'm really bad with likenames of people, so like the
only person's name I know isPeter Steele from Typo Negative.
SPEAKER_06 (04:01):
Fuck yeah, man.
SPEAKER_02 (04:03):
But I'm into like death metal and like hardcore,
but I don't know any of the uhband members' names, or at least
nothing wrong with that.
Sorry about it.
SPEAKER_01 (04:11):
Sebastian, I'm the same way.
I'm like that one guy, you knowhe did the boob boo boop boop.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_08 (04:20):
Yeah, so Sebastian, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Um, and I I was just looking itup because I couldn't remember
his last name.
Um, but you look like uh acombination of Robert Trujillo
from Metallica and Kirk Hammett.
It's crazy, man.
SPEAKER_02 (04:41):
Okay.
SPEAKER_08 (04:43):
That's awesome, man.
SPEAKER_03 (04:46):
I guess I see the vision.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (04:49):
That's fine.
All right.
SPEAKER_03 (04:50):
All right, I guess I'll follow up.
Um, I have I I would go withI'll go with three.
Um, two of them very similar toCam, um, but guitar-wise.
Uh Cody Chavez of Drain.
Love him, him, super cool guy,great riffs, great time.
Then I'd move to um MaxCaballera.
(05:12):
I mean, come on, you just gottaput him in there.
Seppelture was a huge influenceon us writing the record, so you
know, all of his parts for mewere just a big inspiration.
And then I guess a curveball,I'll you know, Alex Liveson,
he's my number one guitarist ofall time.
Although it doesn't show on therecord as much that solid music,
that is for me one of thebiggest influences as a
(05:34):
musician.
So those are my three.
SPEAKER_08 (05:36):
That's awesome, man.
Yeah, all right.
SPEAKER_05 (05:38):
So I'll give you two as a vocalist, one as a
musician.
Uh, as a vocalist, especiallyfor the record, I have to say
Phil Anselmo is a biginspiration, especially just
like the way I thoughtapproached Grammy on the record,
you know, that yeah, he was justa big influence.
Melodically, singing-wise on therecord, I have to go with James
Hetfield.
You know, it might sound like abasic one, but like it really
(05:59):
did help me get the job done forBlind Side.
And then as a musician, I haveto follow Ethan on the rush
train.
Neil Pierre is my go.
I'm so sorry.
I love Neil Pearr with my heartand soul.
That is my man.
That is pause.
That is everything.
He's a lyric writer and anamazing drummer at the same
(06:21):
time.
SPEAKER_08 (06:21):
Yeah, yeah, dude.
You guys, it's crazy.
Like, I feel like I'm in a timecapsule.
This is so weird, dude.
This is so weird.
You guys look like straight outof the 80s, like each one of you
have a different version of the80s.
SPEAKER_00 (06:40):
I love that straight out of the 80s.
SPEAKER_08 (06:46):
Sorry, I got this new camera, I'm still learning.
Um, but like, dude, you guyshave like such a cool image, and
just out of curiosity, how oldare you guys?
Because you look like 18.
SPEAKER_03 (07:00):
I'm 18.
SPEAKER_08 (07:02):
That's fucking insane.
SPEAKER_04 (07:04):
I I'm the oldest of the band and I'm 21.
I just turned 21 a couple weeksago.
I just turned 20.
SPEAKER_05 (07:10):
Yeah, I was about to say, ironically, we're 18, 19,
21.
Sorry, 2021.
SPEAKER_07 (07:15):
Dude, that's nuts.
SPEAKER_01 (07:17):
How is it gonna feel getting carted for the next 30
years?
You know what I mean?
So it's a thing.
Yeah.
I'm showing, I'm showing myfamily.
I've got my my oldest daughter,she's 16, showed my wife, and
uh, and they're like, they'rebabies.
My daughter, if I remembercorrectly, um, I think she said,
it looks like they're straightout of like first block, like
(07:39):
homeroom.
Yeah, like yeah, doesn't soundlike it though.
SPEAKER_08 (07:45):
So so being that age group and and seeing the wild
success that you guys have hadin such a short period of time,
how has that impacted like yourmusic career?
Like, did you guys start offthinking that this was ever
gonna be the case?
SPEAKER_03 (08:06):
Um, I think I could kind of speak on this for all of
us because we were talking aboutit um yesterday at practice, and
you know, we're writing newmusic right now, and we're in
the studio right now, kind of inpre-production, and we were just
you know, we're like, we gottawrite these songs.
And we remember when we were inthe garage in my house, just
like writing songs because wejust wanted to hear what we
(08:54):
wanted to you know we liked, youknow.
Yeah, songs that we just likedto hear because we like that
music, and of course, we'resuper grateful and super, you
know, happy to have gotten wherewe are so far.
But originally, you know, we'rejust just doing it because we
love it, and we still are, butit was kind of just born that
way, you know, just out of thegarage and going after school
(09:16):
and just hanging out and makingnew songs together, dude.
SPEAKER_08 (09:20):
Um, so sorry, give me just a moment here.
Um I just want to make sure I'mthinking of the same band.
Yes, so you brought up PhilOnsama from Pantera.
SPEAKER_06 (09:36):
Yes, we do.
SPEAKER_08 (09:38):
What a great reference to lead into what I
would argue is one of myfavorite songs of all time.
Um, 1000 tons.
SPEAKER_03 (09:48):
Oh, yeah, man.
SPEAKER_08 (09:50):
Of all time.
I mean, I kid you not, like I Ihave been uh telling everybody
about about your music, and likebringing that type of sound back
is number one, revolutionary.
Nobody's doing that shit.
Um, number two, you're you'regiving people like my wife's dad
(10:11):
or um like you know my dad oryou know them to be able to find
a new band to gravitate towardsis so unheard of that like
you've opened up a newconnection for people your age,
right, to have with theirparents.
(10:32):
And I don't I don't know if youunderstand the gravity of what
you're doing yet, but like,dude, that's so incredible to be
able to connect with yourparents on music that's coming
out today is huge.
Phil Onsamo is a completeinspiration in that song.
You guys embodied Pantera inthat song.
SPEAKER_03 (10:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, pretty fucking cool.
SPEAKER_08 (10:55):
So you're right, right.
So do you think that um do youthink that given your
inspiration from Phil Onsamo andjust Pantera in general, do you
think that your sonical elementsare gonna be geared more towards
that, like I don't know, I don'tknow how else to put it, like
(11:19):
rage rock?
SPEAKER_02 (11:21):
I guess in a second, yeah, I and I think I know what
you mean.
Like aggressive, like yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (11:26):
I mean, the only thing I could say about that is
like when we were talking aboutwhat we want how we want our
next our music to our musicgoing forward to sound, the one
thing we said is power.
SPEAKER_07 (11:37):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (11:38):
We want raw power, yeah.
So that's what I'll say inregards to that.
SPEAKER_08 (11:43):
Hell yeah.
How do you guys feel aboutanimosity?
SPEAKER_03 (11:48):
Um I mean, we love the song, of course.
Um to play, it's the only funfact, only song that's an E flat
on the whole record.
Everything's also in E standard,so but no, I mean, I guess I can
say for all of us.
We love that song.
Yeah, it's a nice song to playat the end of the show, you
know.
It's just a great time.
SPEAKER_08 (12:07):
Does the crowd get pumped when you guys play that
one?
SPEAKER_03 (12:09):
Yeah, yes, yeah.
Most yeah, mostly for that song,yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (12:13):
Would you would you say that you were guys were
influenced by um Metallica forthat one?
SPEAKER_03 (12:20):
Uh I feel like it's just it just, yeah.
I mean, of course, but like itranges because there's just so
many things that we're into atthe same time.
We like to joke where we saywe're all in the same wavelength
because we're always into thesame music at the same time, and
we'll like show each othersomething at the same time.
So kind of just the mix of alleverything we're just getting
(12:42):
into, I guess, just rough topicsincluded, of course, showed in
animosity.
SPEAKER_08 (12:47):
I also love that you brought up your love for rush
because I feel like that shinesthrough on your solos, dude.
You you can tell, like um,tonality-wise, you have sort of
a rush feel to the tone, likeit's very uh chorus heavy, it's
very um um like low end, youknow what I mean?
Instead of heavily, yeah.
(13:09):
Yeah, oh yeah, dude.
As a guitar player, yeah, 100%you can you can hear it.
Like absolutely.
Um, let's talk about uh speakingof tonality, let's talk about
some of the uh the effects onyour board.
What are you running?
SPEAKER_03 (13:21):
Oh, I mean, for me, I'm it's pretty simple but
classic because I'm running outof a JCM 800.
I'm just I'm just pro tuner, EVHphase 90, and I got a tube
screamer.
That's it.
SPEAKER_08 (13:33):
Really?
Yeah, just the tube screamer,really.
SPEAKER_03 (13:36):
And I really just use the tube screamer for a bit
of extra punch, you know, kindof just for the chuggy parts,
because the 800 is fantastic,but I feel like it needs a
little bit of extra oomph to it.
So I kind of just have thatrolling the whole time, and then
for leads, I throw on thatphaser, and that's definitely
Alex Life's influence, you know.
Yeah, so but that's that's myrig right there.
(13:58):
It's just those three pedals andthe 800 out of a 1968 cab, and
that's what I run out of.
SPEAKER_08 (14:04):
Have you compared the EVH phase 90 to just the
regular MXR Phase 90?
Are they the same pedal?
SPEAKER_03 (14:11):
I am yet to try it.
I've just I was just kind ofintroduced to the phase 90
first, and I really like youknow, it's just the way it
sounds, and it it really I'm abig fan going back to how you
said Alex Leipzig and Rush andthe tone.
I've been chasing thehemisphere's tone for eight, and
that one kind of gave me thatchorusy, you know, effect that I
(14:31):
like, and it works for me, butI'm definitely open to trying
new pedals.
SPEAKER_08 (14:35):
Yeah, I I think I might I have the MXR Phase 90.
I'm sure you can see that orangeone there.
Uh um, but but uh I'm thinkingabout grabbing the the EVH phase
90 to just see the comparisonbetween the two and see if
there's really a difference.
Um so I'll hit you up, I'll letyou know what I what I find out
(14:57):
on it.
But um that's crazy that you'rejust using a tube screamer.
So on my on my channel there, Ihave the tube screamer, but I
also have uh DS1, a boss DS1distortion.
Um, and I use the the Marshallhalf stack, and um I don't use
the punchiness of the stack, Ijust use that distortion pedal
instead.
(15:18):
But I I can understand the powerof the of the 800, that makes
sense.
Um what about uh what about you,Sebastian?
What are you running on yourbase rig?
SPEAKER_02 (15:27):
Okay, so for the record, I think we had uh just a
sans amp uh through an ampeg, ifI'm if I'm correct, uh but live
I use uh Alpha Omega from DarkGlass.
SPEAKER_07 (15:42):
I use that oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (15:44):
And through an ampeg head or 8x10 ampeg SVT, and
that's about it, nothing else.
SPEAKER_08 (15:52):
How do you go about getting um that more uh bright
bass sound like you do inanimosity?
SPEAKER_02 (16:02):
Um yeah, for that one, I think it was mainly the
Sans Amp.
We were also using a Pass.
SPEAKER_08 (16:09):
Um, okay.
SPEAKER_02 (16:10):
I think it was uh the Troy's yeah, it was Troy
Sandy.
Sorry Sanders from Mastodon, itwas his bass.
SPEAKER_06 (16:16):
No shit.
SPEAKER_02 (16:18):
Yeah, because in the studio they had it like there.
So I was like, all right.
SPEAKER_06 (16:21):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_02 (16:23):
Yeah, so that's definitely that definitely
contributed to the sound.
SPEAKER_08 (16:28):
Um I'm sorry, I'm gonna be honest.
I blanked on your name, sir, thedrummer.
SPEAKER_00 (16:34):
Oh no, yeah, yeah, Cameron.
SPEAKER_08 (16:38):
So I'm so sorry, man.
How did how did you go about onanimosity?
Uh, I as soon as the drum kicksin, I compared it to like Saint
Anger um or like uh uh KingNothing was another one that it
reminded me of.
How did you go about gettingthat drum sound?
(16:58):
It's very like dampened um umsnare, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04 (17:03):
Um I'm gonna be completely honest with you.
I don't know what I did, but Ibasically just I tightened the
bottom head and I tightened thetop head, and we were just like
jamming through some songs.
We're like, all right, yeah,that sounds good.
And I think I just like left italone the whole time.
I didn't like touch it.
SPEAKER_08 (17:19):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (17:20):
If it's not broken, don't fix it.
SPEAKER_08 (17:23):
I mean that snare is iconic, man.
Like as soon as it pumps in,like it sounds exactly like uh
Lars, like immediately.
Um yeah, yeah, fucking fantasticjob.
Uh so being influenced by DaveGrohl, are you more influenced
on his Foo Fighter stuff, or areyou more influenced on Nirvana?
SPEAKER_04 (17:43):
Um, I'd probably say Nirvana was like too.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (17:47):
How do you feel about his time with uh Kings of
the or Queens of the Stone Age?
SPEAKER_04 (17:51):
Oh yeah.
Well, me and Ethan well lovethat album.
Yeah, dude.
Yeah, I wish he stayed with themlonger, but I I like their I
like their drummer they havenow.
I don't know his name, but he'spretty good.
SPEAKER_08 (18:02):
Yeah, he's definitely he's definitely good.
Um no, that album's iconic, man.
And then I think I think hewent, did he go back and do
another album with them?
SPEAKER_04 (18:12):
Um I think you're right.
I think you are right, though.
SPEAKER_08 (18:16):
I think like one of the more recent ones, he came
back and did like at least likea couple of songs or something
with them.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
But yeah, dude, that firstalbum's so iconic.
Um what would you say you'vepicked up from your influences
as far as like Dave Grohl?
SPEAKER_04 (18:35):
Um like what have I picked up?
SPEAKER_08 (18:37):
Like yeah, like like your style, you know what I
mean?
SPEAKER_04 (18:40):
Like um, I guess like the energy.
I mean, I guess like uh accentsand stuff, but I guess like more
the energy.
SPEAKER_08 (18:51):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I can I can definitely see
that, man.
Uh do you have like a specificlike drum style that you lean
towards?
SPEAKER_04 (19:02):
I mean, I don't know.
I'm pretty honest.
SPEAKER_08 (19:05):
Like I said, you guys are still so young, man.
SPEAKER_04 (19:07):
It's I guess like metal, yeah.
I would say like metal.
Like I I play like metal mainly,yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (19:13):
When did you guys all start uh like like learning
music?
SPEAKER_04 (19:19):
Um okay, I was younger this way.
Okay, yeah.
So I started when I was likepretty young.
I was like eight, eight, ornine.
Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (19:27):
Um, I started in like 2019.
I don't know how old I was, butit was like right before
quarantine.
SPEAKER_07 (19:34):
It's crazy, man.
SPEAKER_03 (19:36):
I started once quarantine started because I got
so bored that I was playing myZoom classes and it kind of grew
from there.
But yeah, like 2020, so I was ineighth grade.
So I was like 14, I think.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (19:52):
Not gonna lie, I'm the pots and pans kid.
Are you?
Yeah, I was I would bang on potsand pans, and then I started
singing when I started singingchoirs when I was in like
kindergarten, and then I kind ofthen I started learning like
actual like instruments andgetting into this style and like
quarantine.
SPEAKER_03 (20:12):
Me and him used to jam dream theater and rush songs
in his garage.
That's how we became friends,yeah.
And yeah, so you know that'skind of when we started
together.
SPEAKER_08 (20:21):
So so speaking of the rush influence, man, yes,
number one, your vocals on umlike thousand to uh thousand
tons and and animosity, I feellike are not in line with your
influences.
Oh no, not at all.
Yeah.
Like, do you do you sing likerush style shit like in your
(20:44):
spare time?
SPEAKER_05 (20:45):
I mean, really, I drum I drum rush in my spare
time.
SPEAKER_08 (20:49):
Oh, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_05 (20:50):
In terms of singing, I kind of just hear the song and
vibe.
It's like I feel like if I wereto start trying to sing like
Getty Lee over a thousand times,it's just not gonna work out.
Right, sure.
It would be some legendarystuff, but like no.
Getty Lee was not meant to bedoing, was not made to do stuff
like a thousand tons.
(21:11):
It's just kind of like I hearthe song, and it's like this is
what the song requires out ofme, so this is what I'll give
the song.
SPEAKER_08 (21:18):
Does that mean that you enjoy singing in other
tonalities rather than metal?
SPEAKER_05 (21:23):
I like everything, I just like music in general.
SPEAKER_08 (21:26):
For sure.
SPEAKER_05 (21:27):
I just if you throw something on, I'm just gonna
vibe with it, you know.
I also too.
So it's like it my how do I wordthis?
My area of liking music is wide.
That's a horrible way to wordit, but I'm just gonna go with
that.
(21:48):
That was my time to leave someinspirational and I said
something.
SPEAKER_01 (21:52):
Okay, no, no, no, no.
I think Harley and I knowexactly what you mean.
Um we've talked and we're bothkind of the same.
SPEAKER_08 (22:01):
It's I think the word you're looking for is
eclectic.
SPEAKER_03 (22:05):
Yes, eclectic.
Thank you.
I'd say it's more like a passionthan a hobby type of thing for
us.
SPEAKER_08 (22:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (22:13):
We love all of it, not just like the one thing.
We just it's just everythinginspires us, you know.
SPEAKER_08 (22:18):
I mean so let's talk about where you think your lives
would be right now if it weren'tfor the music.
Because I mean, this is this hasgot to be uh again, it's a dream
come true, man.
You guys get right out of highschool, you're in a studio right
now.
You guys are literally living somany people's dreams in the
(22:44):
prime of your life.
Where do you think you would bewithout the music?
What would the trajectory havebeen?
SPEAKER_05 (22:51):
I'm not gonna lie, I wouldn't be surprised if all of
us were attempting to music.
Like really if we weren't inthis situation in this specific
scenario, I feel like we'd betrying to get here.
We'd be trying to in some way,shape, or form be doing music.
SPEAKER_08 (23:08):
You didn't you didn't have like uh I'm gonna be
a banker dream or anything.
SPEAKER_05 (23:13):
Uh I have hoop dreams when I was like third
grade.
Once I didn't make the highschool team, I would I didn't
know what the hoop dreams waslooking like.
SPEAKER_08 (23:25):
You got that Philon Salmo anger, man.
SPEAKER_05 (23:29):
On a real note, I think it's like like Ethan said,
this is a passion, not a hobby.
SPEAKER_00 (23:34):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (23:35):
At some point, I feel like music was just a
dream.
SPEAKER_03 (23:38):
So yeah, I'd probably be working in the same
studio or in if I wasn't doing,you know what I mean?
Like I'd be doing something, I'dbe a roadie, I'd be working
maybe at Guitar Center oranything, really.
It's just right music related,you know.
Right.
I'm a music major in college,yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (23:53):
You know, hell yeah.
Where where are you guys goingto college?
SPEAKER_05 (23:56):
If I I don't want to dox you at all, but no, you say
storm room number and like I goto the University of Miami Frost
School of Music, go Caines.
Hell yeah, man.
Game tomorrow, we're gonna beatSyracuse.
SPEAKER_03 (24:14):
I'm not even done with my first semester, but I go
to FIU.
So just starting.
SPEAKER_07 (24:19):
Oh, nice.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (24:20):
So I'm there in Miami.
SPEAKER_02 (24:22):
Yeah, I mean shit.
I'm like in community collegeright now, but I'm gonna
transfer to FAU.
SPEAKER_04 (24:28):
Come on, FAU.
Um I'm not enrolled right now,so I'm a free man.
Yeah!
SPEAKER_02 (24:39):
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_08 (24:41):
Hey, I quit going to college uh right around your
age, actually.
I I did uh I went until I was20.
Yeah, yeah, I was about yourage.
Um so man, I didn't finish.
And you know, it's worked outfor me.
SPEAKER_01 (24:57):
I can't even spell college, so we're good.
SPEAKER_08 (25:02):
Oh man.
Um, so have you guys been ontour or anything yet?
SPEAKER_03 (25:07):
Yeah, we had we had a summer tour um last summer,
and we still technically haveone more date next week, ending
it off in Orlando at Orb Tour.
But we toured and then you know,trying to get back out there
next summer.
Unfortunately, with us being inschool, you know, it's limited
to a summer thing.
For sure, but still, like um,I'd say definitely another tour
(25:31):
soon, and yeah, we we kind ofhad just like that you know
early bands tour, you know,around kind of the you know,
east and kind of northeast, andcome and came back down, but it
was great experience, you know,and great to meet people and
just other bands and play live.
SPEAKER_08 (25:49):
What was the most like humbling experience of the
tour in DC?
SPEAKER_05 (25:55):
Yeah, we had we were in this amazing venue, best show
of the tour.
However, the stage was on thesecond floor and there was no
elevator.
SPEAKER_07 (26:06):
No shit.
SPEAKER_05 (26:07):
We was hauling gear up and down stairs trying to
play our show, yeah.
And we were like, Man, we werelike, watch there be no people
at this show, like watch theempty room, but no, they gave us
a good vibe, so it was all itwas all cool, and it was a fun
show, but man, I see thosestairs in my sleep, gang.
(26:28):
Yeah, that's my nightmare.
SPEAKER_08 (26:31):
So when when new fans are out there and they
watch you, what is theirreaction?
Because, like, again, you guysdon't look like you're about to
play some of the most awesomeclassic rock songs of all time.
Like, you don't you don't lookthe part.
So, like, when you guys jump onstage and you start playing
these songs, are people baffled?
SPEAKER_05 (26:53):
Yes, I will say I showed the animosity music video
to one of my good friends at thesecurity job, and he's watching
it right, super nonchalant dude,got long ass locks and
everything.
He's sitting there Yo Sean, youyou moving like you hate your
parrots.
I was like, I was like, excuseme, but mom, I love you, but
(27:17):
like, whoa.
SPEAKER_08 (27:21):
Dude, that's awesome.
Um, so normally I ask two morequestions to finish things off.
Um, this next question I thinkis pivotal for your career.
Uh, what is a band or an artistthat you guys would like to see
some sort of collaboration with?
(27:41):
Not like your dream artist, butlike somebody that fits your
sound, you know what I mean?
That you guys could put like anawesome product out.
SPEAKER_03 (27:49):
I I gotta say, realistically, one that we've
been saying also in previousinterviews and for a long time,
Drain.
Yeah, you know, yeah, we lovethem, we love to play with them,
and they're so cool.
And I think we'd fit in withtheir sounds.
Um, you know, they're just agreat band, and you know, we
look up to them for sure,especially you know, writing the
music as well, and kind of whentheir stuff was coming out,
(28:10):
we're super into them.
We still are.
New record came out today.
Love it, right?
Right, yeah, it's awesome.
So I'd say that for me at leasttrain.
SPEAKER_04 (28:19):
Can I put one more in there?
SPEAKER_08 (28:21):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04 (28:22):
Uh I'm gonna say power uh power trip power trip.
SPEAKER_08 (28:26):
That's a cool one.
That's a cool one.
Yeah, anybody else got any?
SPEAKER_02 (28:31):
Oh man, those are like two good ones.
Those are two good ones.
SPEAKER_05 (28:34):
I'm kind of scared because I feel like we're gonna
bring it down and bring it downan accident.
SPEAKER_03 (28:37):
Yeah, I'm thinking like what fit more matches.
SPEAKER_08 (28:41):
Honestly, you guys should do something with uh with
Judas Priest.
SPEAKER_03 (28:45):
Oh, yeah.
I mean people are thinking,yeah, that'd be awesome.
That would yeah, that would beincredible.
That would be huge.
SPEAKER_08 (28:53):
Uh, do you guys have like a favorite um Judas Priest
song?
SPEAKER_03 (28:58):
Metal Meltdown.
SPEAKER_08 (28:59):
Metal Down?
That's a deep cut.
SPEAKER_03 (29:01):
I love that song.
SPEAKER_08 (29:03):
Fuck yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (29:03):
Yeah.
Oh, for me, I'm just gonna be Idon't know if this is basic, but
Painkiller.
SPEAKER_08 (29:10):
No, that's not basic.
I think painkiller is anincredible song.
SPEAKER_04 (29:14):
For me, I gotta go with Electric Eye.
We used to cover that by theway.
Electric Eye?
Yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_03 (29:20):
With the intro, too.
It's like, damn.
SPEAKER_08 (29:23):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, do you guys remember thaton Guitar Hero, or are you guys
too young?
SPEAKER_03 (29:29):
I didn't play Guitar Hero personally.
I still I still play GuitarHero.
I played at this arcade I go to,but I didn't grow up playing it.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (29:36):
Dude, that's what got me like started on guitar.
Like, I had um I had an acousticguitar and I was playing Guitar
Hero 3, and I was like 13, Ithink, 12, 13, and I was just
like, Yeah, I think I could justdo this.
So I just started learningguitar and never looked back.
SPEAKER_05 (29:56):
Yeah, yeah, man.
SPEAKER_08 (29:58):
What about you?
You got any, Sean?
SPEAKER_05 (30:00):
I was just gonna say Painkiller 2.
SPEAKER_08 (30:02):
Like, yeah, dude.
Painkiller is an awesome song.
Uh a sleeper song for them thatI feel like people forget
sometimes is Breaking the Law.
SPEAKER_00 (30:10):
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_08 (30:12):
Yeah, it's like a super popular song, but you
forget that that's Judas Priestbecause it just doesn't sound
like any of their other stuff.
Yeah, um kind of like uh likeToto's Hold the Line doesn't
sound anything like Africa, youknow?
SPEAKER_03 (30:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (30:26):
Um, so the other question that we ask is uh you
guys are a great uh band to askthis question, actually.
Um so the show is called theHook and Bridge Podcast.
So we want to ask what is moreimportant for you guys when
producing songs, um, whenwriting songs, uh, the hook of a
(30:47):
song or the bridge of a song?
Not too many artists are doingbridges anymore, but you guys
are.
So
SPEAKER_03 (30:53):
I mean, I'd really say we're equal on both, because
like the hook is very importantto us, but also, you know, you
need some riffs in there, youknow.
That's where the riffs come out,the crazy riffs.
Right.
So I think I'd I mean, say forfor all of us just like somewhat
equal, yeah.
Very equal, very equal groundfor both of them.
SPEAKER_08 (31:12):
I also like that you guys don't use the crutch of
turning a guitar solo into abridge.
Like there's a lot of artiststhat'll do that as well.
Um, and you guys have like anintricate bridge that leads into
a new section of the song that Ilike.
You know, thank you.
SPEAKER_00 (31:27):
Yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER_08 (31:28):
Yeah, man.
Um, so that is the interviewportion.
Are you guys ready to play thisgame?
SPEAKER_02 (31:33):
Let's do it.
SPEAKER_00 (31:34):
Let's go, man.
Let's go.
SPEAKER_08 (31:35):
Yeah.
So this game is called Mixtape.
Basically, I'm going to ask youguys a question, and you have to
answer with the title of a song.
You can choose to be funny oryou can choose to be serious,
totally up to you.
Oh, and we might we might spawnsome some stories uh from asking
(31:59):
some of these.
Yeah.
So and each one of you are gonnaanswer, all right?
SPEAKER_05 (32:04):
Yeah, oh damn, I can't.
We can't we can't hide.
SPEAKER_08 (32:07):
All right, so you walk into the club, grab a piece
of wall in the back to vibe out.
What is the first song that youwant to hear?
So you're in the club hangingout.
What do you want to hear from?
SPEAKER_03 (32:19):
Like, what type of club though?
That's what type of clay, whattype of club?
SPEAKER_08 (32:22):
What type of club like club where there's local
shows, or like club like youknow, I well I I think like club
like like fucking party club,like Usher 50.
SPEAKER_03 (32:34):
I got my song already.
Okay, rocking.
SPEAKER_08 (32:37):
Yo, party rocking, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (32:41):
What's the intention tonight?
What are we trying to get into?
Side quest as if it's kind offreaky, passion fruit.
Oh like that song, man.
That's a vibe.
SPEAKER_08 (32:53):
Uh it's 2025, man.
My my club days are long gone,so I can't, I can't, I can't
vouch for what we're trying toget into.
I know what I was trying to doin the club in 2014, 13.
SPEAKER_00 (33:09):
Right.
SPEAKER_08 (33:10):
So I don't know if you I don't know if you guys are
doing the same things I was, butI mean you got my answer.
SPEAKER_03 (33:17):
But oh, that's the bottom jeans.
Uh that's okay.
SPEAKER_02 (33:22):
That's what I was trying to get into back in 2013.
He was just thinking about that.
My bad.
Uh I don't know.
I don't really know.
It's a good question, but Idon't know.
SPEAKER_08 (33:33):
Finding a respectful woman to bring home to your
mother.
That's where that's what you'redoing.
SPEAKER_03 (33:38):
Oh, we're putting on like Morgan Wallin or something.
SPEAKER_05 (33:43):
No hands.
SPEAKER_08 (33:44):
No hands, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (33:47):
That's a good one.
Yeah.
Oh man, I don't even know.
Yeah.
Like Lollipop by Lil Wayne.
SPEAKER_08 (33:56):
Oh, that's amazing.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
SPEAKER_03 (34:00):
Okay, yeah.
These are great.
SPEAKER_08 (34:02):
I would go, uh, I would go pony by Genuine.
SPEAKER_05 (34:06):
Oh, okay.
I see you.
I see you.
Gotcha.
SPEAKER_08 (34:11):
What about you, man?
SPEAKER_04 (34:12):
Um wait, what was the question?
I'm supposed to be.
Oh, it's song at the club.
You like that?
You're in the back.
All right.
For me personally, if you throwin any song by Project Pat and
I'm in the club.
Oh my god! I am chilling.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
Any song by Project Pat.
SPEAKER_02 (34:33):
Alright, alright.
Oh shit.
Yeah, that's the best one.
SPEAKER_08 (34:37):
Okay, here you go.
You've been frozen, CryroFrozen, and brought back a
thousand years from now.
What song do you play for thepeople of the future to
introduce them to your time?
SPEAKER_04 (34:50):
Oh my god.
Call the Cthulhu by Metallica.
SPEAKER_03 (34:56):
My pick.
All right.
My pick, I think you can't gowrong with Mr.
Blue Sky.
SPEAKER_08 (35:01):
Oh, that's a great pick.
SPEAKER_03 (35:03):
You can't go wrong with it.
SPEAKER_08 (35:05):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (35:05):
People will dig it and it's got all the parts.
You know, it's great.
SPEAKER_08 (35:09):
Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (35:10):
Of my time.
Trying to think of somethinglike currents or like uh
anything from from todaybackwards.
Oh, okay.
So yeah, I see Mr.
SPEAKER_05 (35:21):
Blue Sky.
SPEAKER_08 (35:21):
Yeah, I think Mr.
Blue Sky is a great option.
SPEAKER_05 (35:24):
Okay.
I forgot the name of the song.
What is this?
Ethan knows what I'm talkingabout.
It's this he goes like, Holl atme, Miley Cyrus.
I don't discriminate.
Oh, it's not an article.
I forgot the name of the song,but I'm playing this.
SPEAKER_03 (35:43):
Is it possible to choose the Austin Powers theme?
SPEAKER_05 (35:45):
So I'm walk out and playing this like your gadget.
SPEAKER_08 (35:51):
What you on about those who watched it get it,
obviously, but I'm I'm playingthat song Ass and Titties.
That's the one volunteer.
Or just Yeah by Usher.
That's also an option.
SPEAKER_00 (36:08):
Yeah.
Up in front, well, I'm home andwhat about you guys, man?
SPEAKER_08 (36:16):
Or no, you said Metallica.
What about you?
SPEAKER_04 (36:17):
Yeah, I say call it Tulu because I I just I've woken
up from my slumber, so I gottaput everybody on.
SPEAKER_02 (36:26):
Alright.
I guess that's my I'm the onlyone left.
I'm gonna put that one on.
Because they won't believe thatin the future.
You're right.
SPEAKER_08 (36:45):
Alright.
Um you're eight years old ridingshotgun next to your dad, and he
cranks the volume.
What song are you listening towith your dad?
SPEAKER_03 (36:56):
Um it takes two how old is he?
SPEAKER_08 (36:59):
Um, I mean, how old's your dad?
SPEAKER_03 (37:02):
Okay, what if by creed?
SPEAKER_08 (37:04):
Oh, okay.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (37:06):
Dad song.
Or like my so yeah, yeah.
Actually, I stay with that one.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (37:10):
What if by creed, man?
I like that.
SPEAKER_03 (37:12):
Yeah.
unknown (37:13):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (37:13):
Who are you guys?
SPEAKER_04 (37:15):
I'm I'm gonna go with another Creed song because
it it's it's just dad rock in away.
So um My Own Prison.
SPEAKER_08 (37:23):
That's another great one.
SPEAKER_04 (37:24):
Crank, crank it up, dad.
I want to hear that.
SPEAKER_08 (37:27):
Couple of Scott Snapp fans here.
SPEAKER_02 (37:29):
Great songs.
I'm just gonna say.
I'm gonna have to go with likeHotel California by the Eagles.
SPEAKER_08 (37:36):
Oh, there you go.
There you go.
SPEAKER_05 (37:38):
The stuff that my dad will put on, he always put
on like put on that it takes tooto make a thing go right.
SPEAKER_07 (37:45):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_08 (37:45):
Okay, some like discount?
SPEAKER_05 (37:47):
Yeah, that's what my dad would put on.
SPEAKER_08 (37:49):
Hell yeah, dude.
Um, so speaking of dad rock, howdo you guys feel about
nickelback?
SPEAKER_04 (37:56):
Nickelback.
I am serious.
There there's one song that'sreally, really heavy.
SPEAKER_03 (38:03):
I think that might be the same song that Dimebag is
on.
Yeah.
On the solo.
I think it is.
Yeah, do you guys know that?
No.
There's a solo on a laterNickelback album that Dimebag is
on.
No shit.
Is it the one with like the caror something?
I I don't remember what thealbum cover is like.
Yeah.
But I think we're talking aboutthe same song.
(38:23):
I can't remember what it'scalled, but yeah, this is a true
fact.
SPEAKER_08 (38:26):
Hold up, hold up.
You're about to blow my mind.
Dude, I'm a I'm a big Nickelbackfan.
SPEAKER_02 (38:31):
Hell yeah.
Everyone's trying to find afinding song for everyone on.
SPEAKER_03 (38:41):
Side of a bullet?
Yeah, actually, yes, I think itis Side of a Bullet, yeah.
That's the song.
Unreleased guitar solo.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a Dime Bag solo onthere.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (38:53):
No shit.
And it's a tribute to him.
I did not know that, dude.
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_03 (38:57):
It's pretty awesome.
SPEAKER_08 (38:59):
Dude, I love that.
Uh that's one of my favoritealbums of all time for all the
right reasons, man.
It's a great album.
Um, that dude, that that albumhad all of the hits.
It had Rockstar, it had Animals,it had Um Uh For All the Right
Reasons, um Fucking Rockstar.
Did I already say Rockstar?
Yeah.
All right, all right.
(39:20):
So um, at least you guys likeNickelback.
Does that mean that nickelbackis coming back like people don't
hate Nickelback anymore?
SPEAKER_03 (39:28):
I don't hate Nickelback.
Did it ever did it ever leave?
SPEAKER_02 (39:31):
Yeah, I don't really know to be honest.
SPEAKER_08 (39:37):
Alright, let's see here.
Okay.
Well, this is kind of strangefor you guys because you're so
young.
Uh, picture the girl or boy thatyou had a crush on.
It says in your youth, but we'rejust gonna say that you guys
have a crush on.
What song plays when you seeher?
Or him.
SPEAKER_03 (39:58):
Okay, you know the song where it's like I can't
even know what it's called.
Um damn, I'm blanking.
Okay, this is embarrassing.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_07 (40:16):
Dreamweaver?
SPEAKER_03 (40:17):
Is that it?
Do you mind if I listen to itfor a second?
SPEAKER_07 (40:20):
No, not at all, no.
SPEAKER_04 (40:21):
Oh man, I don't know.
Um, for me, uh I'm just gonnasay uh change in the house of
flies by Deathcroats.
SPEAKER_08 (40:28):
Fuck yeah, dude.
That's a good one.
SPEAKER_03 (40:34):
Yeah, it is it is Dreamweaver.
SPEAKER_08 (40:36):
Is it Dreamweaver?
Yeah, um, I'm trying to think ofuh the proper way to say this.
I'm gonna say seductive uhDeftones music really is.
Yeah, especially House of Flies,man.
SPEAKER_03 (40:47):
That's yeah, okay, but passenger though.
Well, Passengers, passengers areones, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (40:52):
Yeah, emotional one.
I would say for me, I would sayrosemary by Deftones.
Oh, okay, okay.
I don't know if I should saymine.
SPEAKER_08 (41:03):
No, you gotta say it.
SPEAKER_05 (41:07):
I am not saying legs shaking, I'm saying worse
behavior by K1.
Just give it a list then, maybe.
SPEAKER_08 (41:12):
Worse behavior, okay.
SPEAKER_05 (41:14):
This is the rapper you showed me, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was uh uh it's that's ballright there.
Yeah, it's some ball knowledge,yo.
You play you played that songwhen you want to grow.
SPEAKER_07 (41:24):
Okay.
Hey man, I'll try it tonight.
SPEAKER_05 (41:28):
Try it tonight.
Worst behavior by KWN Trez.
Okay, all right, all right.
SPEAKER_08 (41:34):
Chris, what what's yours?
I'm so curious.
What's what's yours when youwhen your wife walks in that
room?
SPEAKER_01 (41:40):
Oh, oh, we've already gone over this.
This is for real.
Motion city soundtrack.
SPEAKER_08 (41:44):
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, uh I was hoping for uhit's like ninth grade, dude.
SPEAKER_01 (41:51):
It's like ninth grade.
SPEAKER_08 (41:55):
Uh let's see here.
SPEAKER_05 (41:58):
How about you?
SPEAKER_08 (41:59):
Oh, for me, um, I would have to say the song um by
Pearl Jam uh Future Days.
You might recognize it from theshow and uh video game The Last
of Us.
Uh, but that was my wife and I'ssong together.
(42:20):
Uh that and Extreme um fuck,what's that Extreme song that
everybody knows?
I can't remember.
Like the band?
Yeah, the band, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (42:31):
Play with me.
SPEAKER_08 (42:33):
Play with me is a great song, but that's not the
one.
No, and I don't know.
SPEAKER_05 (42:38):
Yeah, play with me is the one with the with the the
uh all the the all the classicalstuff in it, right?
Well, that's basically just anEno for you.
SPEAKER_03 (42:44):
Yeah, lucky.
SPEAKER_07 (42:45):
Um, yeah, I'm not sure it's that one that's like
saying I love you is not thewords I want to hear from you.
SPEAKER_08 (42:57):
I can't remember the name of the song though.
Yeah, it's all um let's seehere.
Okay, here we go.
What's your crowd surfing song?
Like a song you're you're seeinga band, and immediately you're
like, I'm rushing the stage.
SPEAKER_03 (43:15):
Recently, and I didn't do it and I regret it
because I saw them live.
Birds turnstile.
I wanted to get up so bad at theend of the show for that, and I
didn't do it because it was justit's just such a great moment,
you know, just to crowd surf forthat.
Yeah, I don't know what elsethough.
SPEAKER_02 (43:31):
I don't really uh crowd surf, so I don't even I
don't know.
Um it's like a good crowdsurfing song.
SPEAKER_03 (43:42):
I would I would low key want to crowd surf though,
just like laying back like thisat the end of the videon.
SPEAKER_00 (43:48):
And people are just yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (43:52):
I'm just on my back and people are pushing me
forward.
I'm just yeah that's that's mypick breakdown, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (44:01):
That's my pick.
SPEAKER_08 (44:02):
Um so I've only crowdsurfed one time in my life.
I was at a festival, um, I thinkin Pittsburgh, uh my wife crowd
surfs, or then girlfriend, nowwife, crowd surfs, and I had
never done it before because Iwas always a bigger dude.
(44:22):
So I'm like, fuck it, I'm gonnatry it.
I was at my thinnest, guys.
Like, literally, I was like 180pounds tops.
So I'm like, I'm I'm lookinggood, I'm beef, you know, I'm
gonna try this out.
And I go up, and I kid you not,this guy goes, Oh, this guy's so
fucking heavy, and then justthrows me into a mosh pit.
(44:47):
Oh my god, that's gonna be I wasI was like your age.
I was I was like 17, 18, and Iwas like, I'm never doing that
again.
SPEAKER_05 (44:59):
You gotta square up after that, dude.
SPEAKER_08 (45:02):
Dude, it was wild.
Luckily, the the mosh pits areawesome, so they just help me
up, and then they're like, Yougotta go around.
So then I just fucking moshed,and then after that, I was like,
Oh, this is where I belong.
I started moshing every time.
SPEAKER_00 (45:15):
Nice.
SPEAKER_08 (45:17):
Um, but yeah, dude, fucking dicks.
Shout out to that guy, whereverhe's at, whatever prison he's
sitting in.
SPEAKER_05 (45:26):
I'm like, damn, we gotta throw hands after that.
SPEAKER_08 (45:30):
All right, last one, guys.
All right, what is your go-todrinking song?
This is a horrible question foryou.
We're gonna say apple cider foryou guys drinking apple cider
too.
SPEAKER_03 (45:45):
Right.
Okay, if I were to choose asong, if that was the scenario,
right?
Um, this is obviously not beendone, but if I think I would
enjoy it, is Dirt by AllisonChains.
But the song like it's just Icould just imagine myself like
just like this, just like withsomething in my hands, yeah.
(46:10):
Yeah, that's real.
SPEAKER_04 (46:13):
If I'm like by myself, like in my room, and
like I just cracked open a coldone, I'm putting on my own
prison by Creed again.
SPEAKER_08 (46:21):
Really?
SPEAKER_04 (46:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (46:23):
Are you a big Creed guy?
Um, or you just love that onesong.
SPEAKER_04 (46:27):
I really like the first album, honestly.
SPEAKER_03 (46:29):
The first album's awesome.
I'll tell you this much.
When we went to see Turnstyletogether, and the entire time
when we left and the day after,the only thing that played in
the car was Creed.
Yeah.
So that says basically enough.
SPEAKER_02 (46:51):
Okay, well, I don't want to be that guy, but I don't
I'm straight edge, so I don't donone of that.
So I'm gonna say the disciplineby Earth Crisis.
SPEAKER_08 (46:59):
Hell yeah, man.
SPEAKER_02 (47:00):
The straight edge, man.
SPEAKER_05 (47:04):
So me.
SPEAKER_08 (47:05):
Yeah, you're obviously straight edge as well.
You put off that vibe in theworld for sure.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (47:15):
Yeah, yeah.
Let's just answer the question.
Uh, what's it called?
Uh, if I was with you know alittle girl, uh, I'd put out a
song Deeper by Party Next Door.
SPEAKER_07 (47:24):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (47:26):
Okay, but your graphics won't open at 6 p.m.
on a Tuesday or some hard day ofwork, and you're just oh there
you go, yeah.
Working man, that's a great pickright now.
SPEAKER_08 (47:36):
That's a great pick.
SPEAKER_05 (47:40):
That's a great pick.
SPEAKER_08 (47:44):
Dude, working man by Rush.
What a great pick.
That's a great that's the rightanswer.
That might be just like theright answer.
SPEAKER_05 (47:49):
That is the answer.
I mean, he just described thesecond verse.
Exactly.
Right.
Off at five o'clock, and I takemyself out a nice cool beer.
SPEAKER_08 (47:58):
Yeah.
Um, right there.
I'm trying to think.
So, like, one of like myfavorite activities of all time
is I have uh a record player,and I I don't drink anymore, but
I used to, and I would crackopen like either a beer or pour
myself like a glass of like uhbourbon or something, and I'll
(48:19):
turn on a record and I'll listento it front to back.
Like that's like my favoriteactivity.
SPEAKER_03 (48:24):
Yeah, I get it.
What's your favorite one youlisten to in your experience?
SPEAKER_08 (48:28):
Oh dude, I I man, I don't even know.
I'm I'm a big Floyd fan, so likeI have like Dark Side of the
Moon is like one of my all-timefavorites.
Oh, yeah.
Um but like as far as like alistening experience, I really
got into a band called KeepFlying recently, and they're so
(48:49):
fucking cool, man.
If you guys get a chance, checkout Keep Flying, they're really,
really good.
Chris, what what's your uhwhat's your go-to drink?
SPEAKER_01 (48:58):
Uh drink and song?
Oh let's see if we if we'rehaving a bonfire out in the
field.
Solo cup.
No, god no.
Anything but Hank Williams III.
Um back in my party days.
Oh, it it was shimmy by systemof a down.
SPEAKER_08 (49:14):
Shimmy by system of a down?
SPEAKER_01 (49:16):
Oh, yeah, dude.
At that point, it's black.
Whoa.
And once I hit 21, it was like,this isn't fun anymore.
SPEAKER_08 (49:23):
Yep, that's that's kind of where I was, dude.
Once so I started at likeprobably about 18, somewhere
around there, maybe a littleyounger.
Um, so by the time I was like22, 23, I was just like, eh, all
right, it's just another Tuesdayat that point, you know?
Yeah, yeah, hell yeah, guys.
Well, um Saint uh or uh uhsorry, change Saint, everybody.
(49:48):
Thanks for coming on, guys.
SPEAKER_05 (49:49):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_08 (49:53):
No, dude, you guys are again, you guys are so
fucking cool, man.
I if you're ever in Virginia, Iwill be there.
Like, yeah, man.
Wherever you guys are, I want tocome out and see you because
really love the stuff.
Um, everybody go check outChainsaint, it's available
everywhere.
Uh, what do we got working onright now?
Will we in we're in the studio?
SPEAKER_03 (50:15):
We're doing some pre-production for some upcoming
music that's as far as I'll takeit.
SPEAKER_05 (50:19):
We just cooking.
SPEAKER_03 (50:20):
We just cooking, basically.
So we're cooking up right nowand um getting some new stuff
together and recording it,making it sound good.
And yeah, that's all I'll sayfor now.
SPEAKER_05 (50:30):
Technically, we just like chopping up the vegetables.
SPEAKER_03 (50:33):
What he said, cut cutting the meat, putting up
yeah, basically, prep.
SPEAKER_08 (50:39):
I need I need you in dude.
I need Sean.
I need you in my everyday lifejust hyping me up with these I
got certified hype man.
SPEAKER_05 (50:49):
I'm like, oh that's my guy right here.
He's about to get the bestpodcast.
Come on.
SPEAKER_08 (50:57):
Dude, uh so who uh who's primarily the the lyrics
of the band?
Who's writing the lyrics?
What what's your what's yourwriting inspiration?
Like like where do where wheredo you pull the essence from?
SPEAKER_03 (51:14):
I mean it's really just from whatever I'm I mean,
at least for blindsight at thetime, thinking about or you
know, what was happening, orkind of just life experiences
and whatnot, things that I couldtalk strongly about and kind of
you know put them into music andinto words and stuff that I can
just do that more fluidly.
SPEAKER_08 (51:33):
Yeah.
Um did you get into songwritingpretty young?
SPEAKER_03 (51:38):
Um, I mean, all music stuff really started for
me at around the same time asguitar with like around 2020 in
quarantine.
And I mean, I guess I'll justhave to say I was just very
influenced by other lyricists,like like Neil Peart,
especially, fantastic lyricist,you know, um mainly him, but
also one lyricist that Iremember inspired me in
(52:01):
particular for this music wasChuck Schuldner.
SPEAKER_07 (52:04):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (52:05):
I really like his lyrics, and I think he does a
fantastic job.
And that was something that kindof got me to even want to do
more lyrics and keep writingabout just stuff that I thought
about and liked.
SPEAKER_06 (52:16):
Do you do you feel that uh blind side is a direct
correlation to COVID and yourexperience during quarantine?
SPEAKER_03 (52:25):
Not really, it's more just I mean, just things at
the time at times we're writingthe songs, and as I started
writing the lyrics, that I waslike, okay, this or this or
this, and this is what I feelabout this.
These are things I'm hearingabout, I'm gonna write about it,
or it's an experience I justhad, I'm gonna write about it.
And they kind of made their waysinto the songs.
SPEAKER_08 (52:45):
What's the story behind 1000 tons?
SPEAKER_03 (52:47):
That was actually a collective um work lyrically
with all of us, but it was moreyou guys all sing on it, right?
SPEAKER_08 (52:55):
Uh you got like all of you singing on the one.
SPEAKER_03 (52:57):
Let's go.
We got backup vocals, but um wegot um we all pitched in on
lyrics on that, at least withsomething, you know.
Um, I mean, that song wasreally, at least for me, born
just kind of we we didn't reallyhave our lead singer at the
time.
We kicked him out, and thingswere not really looking the way
they were at first, and a lot ofpressure was there, of course,
(53:20):
you know what I mean?
And that was a thing, and youknow, like I said, life
experiences, so write aboutthem.
And we ended up just kind ofwriting all together.
And oh yeah, man.
Yeah, and that was that wasactually the first song we had,
Sean in the band writing withus.
SPEAKER_08 (53:37):
You yeah, hell yeah, guys, dude.
Love love the band, love all themusic.
Can't wait to see thetrajectory, can't wait to see
your career path.
I'm gonna be following you guyssuper closely, so don't be
afraid to come back on.
I as soon as you guys are donecooking, I want to talk about
this meal.
SPEAKER_00 (53:57):
Yep, let's do it.
SPEAKER_06 (53:58):
Yep, for sure.
SPEAKER_08 (53:59):
Hell yeah, guys.
SPEAKER_06 (54:00):
Sure now.
SPEAKER_08 (54:01):
All right, have a great night, guys.
I'll be seeing you.
SPEAKER_06 (54:05):
See you guys.
Peace.
Peace.
SPEAKER_07 (54:10):
Thanks for listening to the Look and Bridge Podcast.
I thought we were five.
SPEAKER_00 (00:41):
I think what's up, guys.
SPEAKER_08 (00:55):
Welcome back to the show.
I am your host, Harley, joinedby my co-host, Chris, and a
super, super special group ofguys here.
You guys have an incrediblecareer already starting out.
Please welcome Chained Saint tothe show, everybody.
SPEAKER_03 (01:13):
What's up?
SPEAKER_08 (01:14):
What's up?
So let's let's go around theroom and grab names real quick,
just so I I have familiaritywith everybody.
SPEAKER_05 (01:22):
My name is Sean Sterling.
I'm the lead singer of Chancing.
SPEAKER_02 (01:25):
I'm Ethan Khan.
I play lead guitar.
My name's Sebastian.
I play bass.
SPEAKER_04 (01:29):
My name is uh Cameron, I play drums.
SPEAKER_08 (01:33):
Hell yeah, hell yeah.
Um so we're gonna jump into ahandful of your tracks, but uh,
I want to talk to you guys aboutthe incredible achievements you
guys have already had in such ashort period of time.
How did it feel to have what Icould obviously say has got to
be an idol for you guys?
(01:55):
Uh personally put out astatement regarding your band,
Rob Halford.
SPEAKER_03 (02:00):
Oh man, yeah.
I mean, that was just awesome.
That was like, I remember theday I heard about that, at least
for me, I was my dad's like,come downstairs right now, and
he's like, check this out.
And he's like, Look who fuckinglikes Chainsain.
And I'm just like, oh my god,Rob Halford, like it was just
awesome because that's someonewho inspires honestly all of us,
(02:20):
you know, and so especially themusic that we listen to to make
this music.
So knowing that he enjoys it wasjust so fulfilling, you know,
just super cool, dude.
SPEAKER_08 (02:30):
It's it's awesome.
As soon as I saw that, I waslike, that's so fucking cool,
man.
Like to even even have RobHalford acknowledge your
presence has got to beincredible, you know what I
mean?
Um so speaking of the music youguys produce, uh let's go around
the table and and list off someof your guys' influences.
(02:52):
Um where do we want to start?
That's up to you guys.
Who who wants to go first?
SPEAKER_04 (02:56):
We'll reverse it, reverse it.
SPEAKER_08 (02:58):
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_04 (02:58):
All right, we'll start with me.
Um for me, like drumming.
Uh for me, Suppultura, IgorCavallera, that's like the
number one right there.
Um number two is kind of basic,but it's always been like an
artist I've always like justadmired is uh Dave Grohl.
SPEAKER_08 (03:16):
Okay, obviously.
SPEAKER_04 (03:17):
Great drumming.
Um, and then I'll throw one morein, and um I'll probably say
like a newer one is Tim Fliegelfrom Drain.
SPEAKER_08 (03:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (03:28):
My favorite drummers right now, and they just dropped
the record today.
Go check it out too.
SPEAKER_08 (03:32):
That yeah, that yeah, that's awesome, man.
Um, so you you do like some ofthe more like uh like foreign
music.
SPEAKER_04 (03:40):
Uh, I guess, yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (03:42):
Compared to, I mean, foreign in the sense of like
non-American.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02 (03:46):
Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_08 (03:48):
Hell yeah, man.
What about you?
SPEAKER_02 (03:51):
My turn.
All right.
Um, so I'm really bad with likenames of people, so like the
only person's name I know isPeter Steele from Typo Negative.
SPEAKER_06 (04:01):
Fuck yeah, man.
SPEAKER_02 (04:03):
But I'm into like death metal and like hardcore,
but I don't know any of the uhband members' names, or at least
nothing wrong with that.
Sorry about it.
SPEAKER_01 (04:11):
Sebastian, I'm the same way.
I'm like that one guy, you knowhe did the boob boo boop boop.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_08 (04:20):
Yeah, so Sebastian, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Um, and I I was just looking itup because I couldn't remember
his last name.
Um, but you look like uh acombination of Robert Trujillo
from Metallica and Kirk Hammett.
It's crazy, man.
SPEAKER_02 (04:41):
Okay.
SPEAKER_08 (04:43):
That's awesome, man.
SPEAKER_03 (04:46):
I guess I see the vision.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (04:49):
That's fine.
All right.
SPEAKER_03 (04:50):
All right, I guess I'll follow up.
Um, I have I I would go withI'll go with three.
Um, two of them very similar toCam, um, but guitar-wise.
Uh Cody Chavez of Drain.
Love him, him, super cool guy,great riffs, great time.
Then I'd move to um MaxCaballera.
(05:12):
I mean, come on, you just gottaput him in there.
Seppelture was a huge influenceon us writing the record, so you
know, all of his parts for mewere just a big inspiration.
And then I guess a curveball,I'll you know, Alex Liveson,
he's my number one guitarist ofall time.
Although it doesn't show on therecord as much that solid music,
that is for me one of thebiggest influences as a
(05:34):
musician.
So those are my three.
SPEAKER_08 (05:36):
That's awesome, man.
Yeah, all right.
SPEAKER_05 (05:38):
So I'll give you two as a vocalist, one as a
musician.
Uh, as a vocalist, especiallyfor the record, I have to say
Phil Anselmo is a biginspiration, especially just
like the way I thoughtapproached Grammy on the record,
you know, that yeah, he was justa big influence.
Melodically, singing-wise on therecord, I have to go with James
Hetfield.
You know, it might sound like abasic one, but like it really
(05:59):
did help me get the job done forBlind Side.
And then as a musician, I haveto follow Ethan on the rush
train.
Neil Pierre is my go.
I'm so sorry.
I love Neil Pearr with my heartand soul.
That is my man.
That is pause.
That is everything.
He's a lyric writer and anamazing drummer at the same
(06:21):
time.
SPEAKER_08 (06:21):
Yeah, yeah, dude.
You guys, it's crazy.
Like, I feel like I'm in a timecapsule.
This is so weird, dude.
This is so weird.
You guys look like straight outof the 80s, like each one of you
have a different version of the80s.
SPEAKER_00 (06:40):
I love that straight out of the 80s.
SPEAKER_08 (06:46):
Sorry, I got this new camera, I'm still learning.
Um, but like, dude, you guyshave like such a cool image, and
just out of curiosity, how oldare you guys?
Because you look like 18.
SPEAKER_03 (07:00):
I'm 18.
SPEAKER_08 (07:02):
That's fucking insane.
SPEAKER_04 (07:04):
I I'm the oldest of the band and I'm 21.
I just turned 21 a couple weeksago.
I just turned 20.
SPEAKER_05 (07:10):
Yeah, I was about to say, ironically, we're 18, 19,
21.
Sorry, 2021.
SPEAKER_07 (07:15):
Dude, that's nuts.
SPEAKER_01 (07:17):
How is it gonna feel getting carted for the next 30
years?
You know what I mean?
So it's a thing.
Yeah.
I'm showing, I'm showing myfamily.
I've got my my oldest daughter,she's 16, showed my wife, and
uh, and they're like, they'rebabies.
My daughter, if I remembercorrectly, um, I think she said,
it looks like they're straightout of like first block, like
(07:39):
homeroom.
Yeah, like yeah, doesn't soundlike it though.
SPEAKER_08 (07:45):
So so being that age group and and seeing the wild
success that you guys have hadin such a short period of time,
how has that impacted like yourmusic career?
Like, did you guys start offthinking that this was ever
gonna be the case?
SPEAKER_03 (08:06):
Um, I think I could kind of speak on this for all of
us because we were talking aboutit um yesterday at practice, and
you know, we're writing newmusic right now, and we're in
the studio right now, kind of inpre-production, and we were just
you know, we're like, we gottawrite these songs.
And we remember when we were inthe garage in my house, just
like writing songs because wejust wanted to hear what we
(08:54):
wanted to you know we liked, youknow.
Yeah, songs that we just likedto hear because we like that
music, and of course, we'resuper grateful and super, you
know, happy to have gotten wherewe are so far.
But originally, you know, we'rejust just doing it because we
love it, and we still are, butit was kind of just born that
way, you know, just out of thegarage and going after school
(09:16):
and just hanging out and makingnew songs together, dude.
SPEAKER_08 (09:20):
Um, so sorry, give me just a moment here.
Um I just want to make sure I'mthinking of the same band.
Yes, so you brought up PhilOnsama from Pantera.
SPEAKER_06 (09:36):
Yes, we do.
SPEAKER_08 (09:38):
What a great reference to lead into what I
would argue is one of myfavorite songs of all time.
Um, 1000 tons.
SPEAKER_03 (09:48):
Oh, yeah, man.
SPEAKER_08 (09:50):
Of all time.
I mean, I kid you not, like I Ihave been uh telling everybody
about about your music, and likebringing that type of sound back
is number one, revolutionary.
Nobody's doing that shit.
Um, number two, you're you'regiving people like my wife's dad
(10:11):
or um like you know my dad oryou know them to be able to find
a new band to gravitate towardsis so unheard of that like
you've opened up a newconnection for people your age,
right, to have with theirparents.
(10:32):
And I don't I don't know if youunderstand the gravity of what
you're doing yet, but like,dude, that's so incredible to be
able to connect with yourparents on music that's coming
out today is huge.
Phil Onsamo is a completeinspiration in that song.
You guys embodied Pantera inthat song.
SPEAKER_03 (10:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, pretty fucking cool.
SPEAKER_08 (10:55):
So you're right, right.
So do you think that um do youthink that given your
inspiration from Phil Onsamo andjust Pantera in general, do you
think that your sonical elementsare gonna be geared more towards
that, like I don't know, I don'tknow how else to put it, like
(11:19):
rage rock?
SPEAKER_02 (11:21):
I guess in a second, yeah, I and I think I know what
you mean.
Like aggressive, like yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (11:26):
I mean, the only thing I could say about that is
like when we were talking aboutwhat we want how we want our
next our music to our musicgoing forward to sound, the one
thing we said is power.
SPEAKER_07 (11:37):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (11:38):
We want raw power, yeah.
So that's what I'll say inregards to that.
SPEAKER_08 (11:43):
Hell yeah.
How do you guys feel aboutanimosity?
SPEAKER_03 (11:48):
Um I mean, we love the song, of course.
Um to play, it's the only funfact, only song that's an E flat
on the whole record.
Everything's also in E standard,so but no, I mean, I guess I can
say for all of us.
We love that song.
Yeah, it's a nice song to playat the end of the show, you
know.
It's just a great time.
SPEAKER_08 (12:07):
Does the crowd get pumped when you guys play that
one?
SPEAKER_03 (12:09):
Yeah, yes, yeah.
Most yeah, mostly for that song,yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (12:13):
Would you would you say that you were guys were
influenced by um Metallica forthat one?
SPEAKER_03 (12:20):
Uh I feel like it's just it just, yeah.
I mean, of course, but like itranges because there's just so
many things that we're into atthe same time.
We like to joke where we saywe're all in the same wavelength
because we're always into thesame music at the same time, and
we'll like show each othersomething at the same time.
So kind of just the mix of alleverything we're just getting
(12:42):
into, I guess, just rough topicsincluded, of course, showed in
animosity.
SPEAKER_08 (12:47):
I also love that you brought up your love for rush
because I feel like that shinesthrough on your solos, dude.
You you can tell, like um,tonality-wise, you have sort of
a rush feel to the tone, likeit's very uh chorus heavy, it's
very um um like low end, youknow what I mean?
Instead of heavily, yeah.
(13:09):
Yeah, oh yeah, dude.
As a guitar player, yeah, 100%you can you can hear it.
Like absolutely.
Um, let's talk about uh speakingof tonality, let's talk about
some of the uh the effects onyour board.
What are you running?
SPEAKER_03 (13:21):
Oh, I mean, for me, I'm it's pretty simple but
classic because I'm running outof a JCM 800.
I'm just I'm just pro tuner, EVHphase 90, and I got a tube
screamer.
That's it.
SPEAKER_08 (13:33):
Really?
Yeah, just the tube screamer,really.
SPEAKER_03 (13:36):
And I really just use the tube screamer for a bit
of extra punch, you know, kindof just for the chuggy parts,
because the 800 is fantastic,but I feel like it needs a
little bit of extra oomph to it.
So I kind of just have thatrolling the whole time, and then
for leads, I throw on thatphaser, and that's definitely
Alex Life's influence, you know.
Yeah, so but that's that's myrig right there.
(13:58):
It's just those three pedals andthe 800 out of a 1968 cab, and
that's what I run out of.
SPEAKER_08 (14:04):
Have you compared the EVH phase 90 to just the
regular MXR Phase 90?
Are they the same pedal?
SPEAKER_03 (14:11):
I am yet to try it.
I've just I was just kind ofintroduced to the phase 90
first, and I really like youknow, it's just the way it
sounds, and it it really I'm abig fan going back to how you
said Alex Leipzig and Rush andthe tone.
I've been chasing thehemisphere's tone for eight, and
that one kind of gave me thatchorusy, you know, effect that I
(14:31):
like, and it works for me, butI'm definitely open to trying
new pedals.
SPEAKER_08 (14:35):
Yeah, I I think I might I have the MXR Phase 90.
I'm sure you can see that orangeone there.
Uh um, but but uh I'm thinkingabout grabbing the the EVH phase
90 to just see the comparisonbetween the two and see if
there's really a difference.
Um so I'll hit you up, I'll letyou know what I what I find out
(14:57):
on it.
But um that's crazy that you'rejust using a tube screamer.
So on my on my channel there, Ihave the tube screamer, but I
also have uh DS1, a boss DS1distortion.
Um, and I use the the Marshallhalf stack, and um I don't use
the punchiness of the stack, Ijust use that distortion pedal
instead.
(15:18):
But I I can understand the powerof the of the 800, that makes
sense.
Um what about uh what about you,Sebastian?
What are you running on yourbase rig?
SPEAKER_02 (15:27):
Okay, so for the record, I think we had uh just a
sans amp uh through an ampeg, ifI'm if I'm correct, uh but live
I use uh Alpha Omega from DarkGlass.
SPEAKER_07 (15:42):
I use that oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (15:44):
And through an ampeg head or 8x10 ampeg SVT, and
that's about it, nothing else.
SPEAKER_08 (15:52):
How do you go about getting um that more uh bright
bass sound like you do inanimosity?
SPEAKER_02 (16:02):
Um yeah, for that one, I think it was mainly the
Sans Amp.
We were also using a Pass.
SPEAKER_08 (16:09):
Um, okay.
SPEAKER_02 (16:10):
I think it was uh the Troy's yeah, it was Troy
Sandy.
Sorry Sanders from Mastodon, itwas his bass.
SPEAKER_06 (16:16):
No shit.
SPEAKER_02 (16:18):
Yeah, because in the studio they had it like there.
So I was like, all right.
SPEAKER_06 (16:21):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_02 (16:23):
Yeah, so that's definitely that definitely
contributed to the sound.
SPEAKER_08 (16:28):
Um I'm sorry, I'm gonna be honest.
I blanked on your name, sir, thedrummer.
SPEAKER_00 (16:34):
Oh no, yeah, yeah, Cameron.
SPEAKER_08 (16:38):
So I'm so sorry, man.
How did how did you go about onanimosity?
Uh, I as soon as the drum kicksin, I compared it to like Saint
Anger um or like uh uh KingNothing was another one that it
reminded me of.
How did you go about gettingthat drum sound?
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It's very like dampened um umsnare, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04 (17:03):
Um I'm gonna be completely honest with you.
I don't know what I did, but Ibasically just I tightened the
bottom head and I tightened thetop head, and we were just like
jamming through some songs.
We're like, all right, yeah,that sounds good.
And I think I just like left italone the whole time.
I didn't like touch it.
SPEAKER_08 (17:19):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (17:20):
If it's not broken, don't fix it.
SPEAKER_08 (17:23):
I mean that snare is iconic, man.
Like as soon as it pumps in,like it sounds exactly like uh
Lars, like immediately.
Um yeah, yeah, fucking fantasticjob.
Uh so being influenced by DaveGrohl, are you more influenced
on his Foo Fighter stuff, or areyou more influenced on Nirvana?
SPEAKER_04 (17:43):
Um, I'd probably say Nirvana was like too.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (17:47):
How do you feel about his time with uh Kings of
the or Queens of the Stone Age?
SPEAKER_04 (17:51):
Oh yeah.
Well, me and Ethan well lovethat album.
Yeah, dude.
Yeah, I wish he stayed with themlonger, but I I like their I
like their drummer they havenow.
I don't know his name, but he'spretty good.
SPEAKER_08 (18:02):
Yeah, he's definitely he's definitely good.
Um no, that album's iconic, man.
And then I think I think hewent, did he go back and do
another album with them?
SPEAKER_04 (18:12):
Um I think you're right.
I think you are right, though.
SPEAKER_08 (18:16):
I think like one of the more recent ones, he came
back and did like at least likea couple of songs or something
with them.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
But yeah, dude, that firstalbum's so iconic.
Um what would you say you'vepicked up from your influences
as far as like Dave Grohl?
SPEAKER_04 (18:35):
Um like what have I picked up?
SPEAKER_08 (18:37):
Like yeah, like like your style, you know what I
mean?
SPEAKER_04 (18:40):
Like um, I guess like the energy.
I mean, I guess like uh accentsand stuff, but I guess like more
the energy.
SPEAKER_08 (18:51):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I can I can definitely see
that, man.
Uh do you have like a specificlike drum style that you lean
towards?
SPEAKER_04 (19:02):
I mean, I don't know.
I'm pretty honest.
SPEAKER_08 (19:05):
Like I said, you guys are still so young, man.
SPEAKER_04 (19:07):
It's I guess like metal, yeah.
I would say like metal.
Like I I play like metal mainly,yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (19:13):
When did you guys all start uh like like learning
music?
SPEAKER_04 (19:19):
Um okay, I was younger this way.
Okay, yeah.
So I started when I was likepretty young.
I was like eight, eight, ornine.
Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (19:27):
Um, I started in like 2019.
I don't know how old I was, butit was like right before
quarantine.
SPEAKER_07 (19:34):
It's crazy, man.
SPEAKER_03 (19:36):
I started once quarantine started because I got
so bored that I was playing myZoom classes and it kind of grew
from there.
But yeah, like 2020, so I was ineighth grade.
So I was like 14, I think.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (19:52):
Not gonna lie, I'm the pots and pans kid.
Are you?
Yeah, I was I would bang on potsand pans, and then I started
singing when I started singingchoirs when I was in like
kindergarten, and then I kind ofthen I started learning like
actual like instruments andgetting into this style and like
quarantine.
SPEAKER_03 (20:12):
Me and him used to jam dream theater and rush songs
in his garage.
That's how we became friends,yeah.
And yeah, so you know that'skind of when we started
together.
SPEAKER_08 (20:21):
So so speaking of the rush influence, man, yes,
number one, your vocals on umlike thousand to uh thousand
tons and and animosity, I feellike are not in line with your
influences.
Oh no, not at all.
Yeah.
Like, do you do you sing likerush style shit like in your
(20:44):
spare time?
SPEAKER_05 (20:45):
I mean, really, I drum I drum rush in my spare
time.
SPEAKER_08 (20:49):
Oh, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_05 (20:50):
In terms of singing, I kind of just hear the song and
vibe.
It's like I feel like if I wereto start trying to sing like
Getty Lee over a thousand times,it's just not gonna work out.
Right, sure.
It would be some legendarystuff, but like no.
Getty Lee was not meant to bedoing, was not made to do stuff
like a thousand tons.
(21:11):
It's just kind of like I hearthe song, and it's like this is
what the song requires out ofme, so this is what I'll give
the song.
SPEAKER_08 (21:18):
Does that mean that you enjoy singing in other
tonalities rather than metal?
SPEAKER_05 (21:23):
I like everything, I just like music in general.
SPEAKER_08 (21:26):
For sure.
SPEAKER_05 (21:27):
I just if you throw something on, I'm just gonna
vibe with it, you know.
I also too.
So it's like it my how do I wordthis?
My area of liking music is wide.
That's a horrible way to wordit, but I'm just gonna go with
that.
(21:48):
That was my time to leave someinspirational and I said
something.
SPEAKER_01 (21:52):
Okay, no, no, no, no.
I think Harley and I knowexactly what you mean.
Um we've talked and we're bothkind of the same.
SPEAKER_08 (22:01):
It's I think the word you're looking for is
eclectic.
SPEAKER_03 (22:05):
Yes, eclectic.
Thank you.
I'd say it's more like a passionthan a hobby type of thing for
us.
SPEAKER_08 (22:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (22:13):
We love all of it, not just like the one thing.
We just it's just everythinginspires us, you know.
SPEAKER_08 (22:18):
I mean so let's talk about where you think your lives
would be right now if it weren'tfor the music.
Because I mean, this is this hasgot to be uh again, it's a dream
come true, man.
You guys get right out of highschool, you're in a studio right
now.
You guys are literally living somany people's dreams in the
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prime of your life.
Where do you think you would bewithout the music?
What would the trajectory havebeen?
SPEAKER_05 (22:51):
I'm not gonna lie, I wouldn't be surprised if all of
us were attempting to music.
Like really if we weren't inthis situation in this specific
scenario, I feel like we'd betrying to get here.
We'd be trying to in some way,shape, or form be doing music.
SPEAKER_08 (23:08):
You didn't you didn't have like uh I'm gonna be
a banker dream or anything.
SPEAKER_05 (23:13):
Uh I have hoop dreams when I was like third
grade.
Once I didn't make the highschool team, I would I didn't
know what the hoop dreams waslooking like.
SPEAKER_08 (23:25):
You got that Philon Salmo anger, man.
SPEAKER_05 (23:29):
On a real note, I think it's like like Ethan said,
this is a passion, not a hobby.
SPEAKER_00 (23:34):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (23:35):
At some point, I feel like music was just a
dream.
SPEAKER_03 (23:38):
So yeah, I'd probably be working in the same
studio or in if I wasn't doing,you know what I mean?
Like I'd be doing something, I'dbe a roadie, I'd be working
maybe at Guitar Center oranything, really.
It's just right music related,you know.
Right.
I'm a music major in college,yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (23:53):
You know, hell yeah.
Where where are you guys goingto college?
SPEAKER_05 (23:56):
If I I don't want to dox you at all, but no, you say
storm room number and like I goto the University of Miami Frost
School of Music, go Caines.
Hell yeah, man.
Game tomorrow, we're gonna beatSyracuse.
SPEAKER_03 (24:14):
I'm not even done with my first semester, but I go
to FIU.
So just starting.
SPEAKER_07 (24:19):
Oh, nice.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (24:20):
So I'm there in Miami.
SPEAKER_02 (24:22):
Yeah, I mean shit.
I'm like in community collegeright now, but I'm gonna
transfer to FAU.
SPEAKER_04 (24:28):
Come on, FAU.
Um I'm not enrolled right now,so I'm a free man.
Yeah!
SPEAKER_02 (24:39):
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_08 (24:41):
Hey, I quit going to college uh right around your
age, actually.
I I did uh I went until I was20.
Yeah, yeah, I was about yourage.
Um so man, I didn't finish.
And you know, it's worked outfor me.
SPEAKER_01 (24:57):
I can't even spell college, so we're good.
SPEAKER_08 (25:02):
Oh man.
Um, so have you guys been ontour or anything yet?
SPEAKER_03 (25:07):
Yeah, we had we had a summer tour um last summer,
and we still technically haveone more date next week, ending
it off in Orlando at Orb Tour.
But we toured and then you know,trying to get back out there
next summer.
Unfortunately, with us being inschool, you know, it's limited
to a summer thing.
For sure, but still, like um,I'd say definitely another tour
(25:31):
soon, and yeah, we we kind ofhad just like that you know
early bands tour, you know,around kind of the you know,
east and kind of northeast, andcome and came back down, but it
was great experience, you know,and great to meet people and
just other bands and play live.
SPEAKER_08 (25:49):
What was the most like humbling experience of the
tour in DC?
SPEAKER_05 (25:55):
Yeah, we had we were in this amazing venue, best show
of the tour.
However, the stage was on thesecond floor and there was no
elevator.
SPEAKER_07 (26:06):
No shit.
SPEAKER_05 (26:07):
We was hauling gear up and down stairs trying to
play our show, yeah.
And we were like, Man, we werelike, watch there be no people
at this show, like watch theempty room, but no, they gave us
a good vibe, so it was all itwas all cool, and it was a fun
show, but man, I see thosestairs in my sleep, gang.
(26:28):
Yeah, that's my nightmare.
SPEAKER_08 (26:31):
So when when new fans are out there and they
watch you, what is theirreaction?
Because, like, again, you guysdon't look like you're about to
play some of the most awesomeclassic rock songs of all time.
Like, you don't you don't lookthe part.
So, like, when you guys jump onstage and you start playing
these songs, are people baffled?
SPEAKER_05 (26:53):
Yes, I will say I showed the animosity music video
to one of my good friends at thesecurity job, and he's watching
it right, super nonchalant dude,got long ass locks and
everything.
He's sitting there Yo Sean, youyou moving like you hate your
parrots.
I was like, I was like, excuseme, but mom, I love you, but
(27:17):
like, whoa.
SPEAKER_08 (27:21):
Dude, that's awesome.
Um, so normally I ask two morequestions to finish things off.
Um, this next question I thinkis pivotal for your career.
Uh, what is a band or an artistthat you guys would like to see
some sort of collaboration with?
(27:41):
Not like your dream artist, butlike somebody that fits your
sound, you know what I mean?
That you guys could put like anawesome product out.
SPEAKER_03 (27:49):
I I gotta say, realistically, one that we've
been saying also in previousinterviews and for a long time,
Drain.
Yeah, you know, yeah, we lovethem, we love to play with them,
and they're so cool.
And I think we'd fit in withtheir sounds.
Um, you know, they're just agreat band, and you know, we
look up to them for sure,especially you know, writing the
music as well, and kind of whentheir stuff was coming out,
(28:10):
we're super into them.
We still are.
New record came out today.
Love it, right?
Right, yeah, it's awesome.
So I'd say that for me at leasttrain.
SPEAKER_04 (28:19):
Can I put one more in there?
SPEAKER_08 (28:21):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04 (28:22):
Uh I'm gonna say power uh power trip power trip.
SPEAKER_08 (28:26):
That's a cool one.
That's a cool one.
Yeah, anybody else got any?
SPEAKER_02 (28:31):
Oh man, those are like two good ones.
Those are two good ones.
SPEAKER_05 (28:34):
I'm kind of scared because I feel like we're gonna
bring it down and bring it downan accident.
SPEAKER_03 (28:37):
Yeah, I'm thinking like what fit more matches.
SPEAKER_08 (28:41):
Honestly, you guys should do something with uh with
Judas Priest.
SPEAKER_03 (28:45):
Oh, yeah.
I mean people are thinking,yeah, that'd be awesome.
That would yeah, that would beincredible.
That would be huge.
SPEAKER_08 (28:53):
Uh, do you guys have like a favorite um Judas Priest
song?
SPEAKER_03 (28:58):
Metal Meltdown.
SPEAKER_08 (28:59):
Metal Down?
That's a deep cut.
SPEAKER_03 (29:01):
I love that song.
SPEAKER_08 (29:03):
Fuck yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (29:03):
Yeah.
Oh, for me, I'm just gonna be Idon't know if this is basic, but
Painkiller.
SPEAKER_08 (29:10):
No, that's not basic.
I think painkiller is anincredible song.
SPEAKER_04 (29:14):
For me, I gotta go with Electric Eye.
We used to cover that by theway.
Electric Eye?
Yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_03 (29:20):
With the intro, too.
It's like, damn.
SPEAKER_08 (29:23):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, do you guys remember thaton Guitar Hero, or are you guys
too young?
SPEAKER_03 (29:29):
I didn't play Guitar Hero personally.
I still I still play GuitarHero.
I played at this arcade I go to,but I didn't grow up playing it.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (29:36):
Dude, that's what got me like started on guitar.
Like, I had um I had an acousticguitar and I was playing Guitar
Hero 3, and I was like 13, Ithink, 12, 13, and I was just
like, Yeah, I think I could justdo this.
So I just started learningguitar and never looked back.
SPEAKER_05 (29:56):
Yeah, yeah, man.
SPEAKER_08 (29:58):
What about you?
You got any, Sean?
SPEAKER_05 (30:00):
I was just gonna say Painkiller 2.
SPEAKER_08 (30:02):
Like, yeah, dude.
Painkiller is an awesome song.
Uh a sleeper song for them thatI feel like people forget
sometimes is Breaking the Law.
SPEAKER_00 (30:10):
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_08 (30:12):
Yeah, it's like a super popular song, but you
forget that that's Judas Priestbecause it just doesn't sound
like any of their other stuff.
Yeah, um kind of like uh likeToto's Hold the Line doesn't
sound anything like Africa, youknow?
SPEAKER_03 (30:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (30:26):
Um, so the other question that we ask is uh you
guys are a great uh band to askthis question, actually.
Um so the show is called theHook and Bridge Podcast.
So we want to ask what is moreimportant for you guys when
producing songs, um, whenwriting songs, uh, the hook of a
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song or the bridge of a song?
Not too many artists are doingbridges anymore, but you guys
are.
So
SPEAKER_03 (30:53):
I mean, I'd really say we're equal on both, because
like the hook is very importantto us, but also, you know, you
need some riffs in there, youknow.
That's where the riffs come out,the crazy riffs.
Right.
So I think I'd I mean, say forfor all of us just like somewhat
equal, yeah.
Very equal, very equal groundfor both of them.
SPEAKER_08 (31:12):
I also like that you guys don't use the crutch of
turning a guitar solo into abridge.
Like there's a lot of artiststhat'll do that as well.
Um, and you guys have like anintricate bridge that leads into
a new section of the song that Ilike.
You know, thank you.
SPEAKER_00 (31:27):
Yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER_08 (31:28):
Yeah, man.
Um, so that is the interviewportion.
Are you guys ready to play thisgame?
SPEAKER_02 (31:33):
Let's do it.
SPEAKER_00 (31:34):
Let's go, man.
Let's go.
SPEAKER_08 (31:35):
Yeah.
So this game is called Mixtape.
Basically, I'm going to ask youguys a question, and you have to
answer with the title of a song.
You can choose to be funny oryou can choose to be serious,
totally up to you.
Oh, and we might we might spawnsome some stories uh from asking
(31:59):
some of these.
Yeah.
So and each one of you are gonnaanswer, all right?
SPEAKER_05 (32:04):
Yeah, oh damn, I can't.
We can't we can't hide.
SPEAKER_08 (32:07):
All right, so you walk into the club, grab a piece
of wall in the back to vibe out.
What is the first song that youwant to hear?
So you're in the club hangingout.
What do you want to hear from?
SPEAKER_03 (32:19):
Like, what type of club though?
That's what type of clay, whattype of club?
SPEAKER_08 (32:22):
What type of club like club where there's local
shows, or like club like youknow, I well I I think like club
like like fucking party club,like Usher 50.
SPEAKER_03 (32:34):
I got my song already.
Okay, rocking.
SPEAKER_08 (32:37):
Yo, party rocking, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (32:41):
What's the intention tonight?
What are we trying to get into?
Side quest as if it's kind offreaky, passion fruit.
Oh like that song, man.
That's a vibe.
SPEAKER_08 (32:53):
Uh it's 2025, man.
My my club days are long gone,so I can't, I can't, I can't
vouch for what we're trying toget into.
I know what I was trying to doin the club in 2014, 13.
SPEAKER_00 (33:09):
Right.
SPEAKER_08 (33:10):
So I don't know if you I don't know if you guys are
doing the same things I was, butI mean you got my answer.
SPEAKER_03 (33:17):
But oh, that's the bottom jeans.
Uh that's okay.
SPEAKER_02 (33:22):
That's what I was trying to get into back in 2013.
He was just thinking about that.
My bad.
Uh I don't know.
I don't really know.
It's a good question, but Idon't know.
SPEAKER_08 (33:33):
Finding a respectful woman to bring home to your
mother.
That's where that's what you'redoing.
SPEAKER_03 (33:38):
Oh, we're putting on like Morgan Wallin or something.
SPEAKER_05 (33:43):
No hands.
SPEAKER_08 (33:44):
No hands, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (33:47):
That's a good one.
Yeah.
Oh man, I don't even know.
Yeah.
Like Lollipop by Lil Wayne.
SPEAKER_08 (33:56):
Oh, that's amazing.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
SPEAKER_03 (34:00):
Okay, yeah.
These are great.
SPEAKER_08 (34:02):
I would go, uh, I would go pony by Genuine.
SPEAKER_05 (34:06):
Oh, okay.
I see you.
I see you.
Gotcha.
SPEAKER_08 (34:11):
What about you, man?
SPEAKER_04 (34:12):
Um wait, what was the question?
I'm supposed to be.
Oh, it's song at the club.
You like that?
You're in the back.
All right.
For me personally, if you throwin any song by Project Pat and
I'm in the club.
Oh my god! I am chilling.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
Any song by Project Pat.
SPEAKER_02 (34:33):
Alright, alright.
Oh shit.
Yeah, that's the best one.
SPEAKER_08 (34:37):
Okay, here you go.
You've been frozen, CryroFrozen, and brought back a
thousand years from now.
What song do you play for thepeople of the future to
introduce them to your time?
SPEAKER_04 (34:50):
Oh my god.
Call the Cthulhu by Metallica.
SPEAKER_03 (34:56):
My pick.
All right.
My pick, I think you can't gowrong with Mr.
Blue Sky.
SPEAKER_08 (35:01):
Oh, that's a great pick.
SPEAKER_03 (35:03):
You can't go wrong with it.
SPEAKER_08 (35:05):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (35:05):
People will dig it and it's got all the parts.
You know, it's great.
SPEAKER_08 (35:09):
Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (35:10):
Of my time.
Trying to think of somethinglike currents or like uh
anything from from todaybackwards.
Oh, okay.
So yeah, I see Mr.
SPEAKER_05 (35:21):
Blue Sky.
SPEAKER_08 (35:21):
Yeah, I think Mr.
Blue Sky is a great option.
SPEAKER_05 (35:24):
Okay.
I forgot the name of the song.
What is this?
Ethan knows what I'm talkingabout.
It's this he goes like, Holl atme, Miley Cyrus.
I don't discriminate.
Oh, it's not an article.
I forgot the name of the song,but I'm playing this.
SPEAKER_03 (35:43):
Is it possible to choose the Austin Powers theme?
SPEAKER_05 (35:45):
So I'm walk out and playing this like your gadget.
SPEAKER_08 (35:51):
What you on about those who watched it get it,
obviously, but I'm I'm playingthat song Ass and Titties.
That's the one volunteer.
Or just Yeah by Usher.
That's also an option.
SPEAKER_00 (36:08):
Yeah.
Up in front, well, I'm home andwhat about you guys, man?
SPEAKER_08 (36:16):
Or no, you said Metallica.
What about you?
SPEAKER_04 (36:17):
Yeah, I say call it Tulu because I I just I've woken
up from my slumber, so I gottaput everybody on.
SPEAKER_02 (36:26):
Alright.
I guess that's my I'm the onlyone left.
I'm gonna put that one on.
Because they won't believe thatin the future.
You're right.
SPEAKER_08 (36:45):
Alright.
Um you're eight years old ridingshotgun next to your dad, and he
cranks the volume.
What song are you listening towith your dad?
SPEAKER_03 (36:56):
Um it takes two how old is he?
SPEAKER_08 (36:59):
Um, I mean, how old's your dad?
SPEAKER_03 (37:02):
Okay, what if by creed?
SPEAKER_08 (37:04):
Oh, okay.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (37:06):
Dad song.
Or like my so yeah, yeah.
Actually, I stay with that one.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (37:10):
What if by creed, man?
I like that.
SPEAKER_03 (37:12):
Yeah.
unknown (37:13):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (37:13):
Who are you guys?
SPEAKER_04 (37:15):
I'm I'm gonna go with another Creed song because
it it's it's just dad rock in away.
So um My Own Prison.
SPEAKER_08 (37:23):
That's another great one.
SPEAKER_04 (37:24):
Crank, crank it up, dad.
I want to hear that.
SPEAKER_08 (37:27):
Couple of Scott Snapp fans here.
SPEAKER_02 (37:29):
Great songs.
I'm just gonna say.
I'm gonna have to go with likeHotel California by the Eagles.
SPEAKER_08 (37:36):
Oh, there you go.
There you go.
SPEAKER_05 (37:38):
The stuff that my dad will put on, he always put
on like put on that it takes tooto make a thing go right.
SPEAKER_07 (37:45):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_08 (37:45):
Okay, some like discount?
SPEAKER_05 (37:47):
Yeah, that's what my dad would put on.
SPEAKER_08 (37:49):
Hell yeah, dude.
Um, so speaking of dad rock, howdo you guys feel about
nickelback?
SPEAKER_04 (37:56):
Nickelback.
I am serious.
There there's one song that'sreally, really heavy.
SPEAKER_03 (38:03):
I think that might be the same song that Dimebag is
on.
Yeah.
On the solo.
I think it is.
Yeah, do you guys know that?
No.
There's a solo on a laterNickelback album that Dimebag is
on.
No shit.
Is it the one with like the caror something?
I I don't remember what thealbum cover is like.
Yeah.
But I think we're talking aboutthe same song.
(38:23):
I can't remember what it'scalled, but yeah, this is a true
fact.
SPEAKER_08 (38:26):
Hold up, hold up.
You're about to blow my mind.
Dude, I'm a I'm a big Nickelbackfan.
SPEAKER_02 (38:31):
Hell yeah.
Everyone's trying to find afinding song for everyone on.
SPEAKER_03 (38:41):
Side of a bullet?
Yeah, actually, yes, I think itis Side of a Bullet, yeah.
That's the song.
Unreleased guitar solo.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a Dime Bag solo onthere.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (38:53):
No shit.
And it's a tribute to him.
I did not know that, dude.
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_03 (38:57):
It's pretty awesome.
SPEAKER_08 (38:59):
Dude, I love that.
Uh that's one of my favoritealbums of all time for all the
right reasons, man.
It's a great album.
Um, that dude, that that albumhad all of the hits.
It had Rockstar, it had Animals,it had Um Uh For All the Right
Reasons, um Fucking Rockstar.
Did I already say Rockstar?
Yeah.
All right, all right.
(39:20):
So um, at least you guys likeNickelback.
Does that mean that nickelbackis coming back like people don't
hate Nickelback anymore?
SPEAKER_03 (39:28):
I don't hate Nickelback.
Did it ever did it ever leave?
SPEAKER_02 (39:31):
Yeah, I don't really know to be honest.
SPEAKER_08 (39:37):
Alright, let's see here.
Okay.
Well, this is kind of strangefor you guys because you're so
young.
Uh, picture the girl or boy thatyou had a crush on.
It says in your youth, but we'rejust gonna say that you guys
have a crush on.
What song plays when you seeher?
Or him.
SPEAKER_03 (39:58):
Okay, you know the song where it's like I can't
even know what it's called.
Um damn, I'm blanking.
Okay, this is embarrassing.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_07 (40:16):
Dreamweaver?
SPEAKER_03 (40:17):
Is that it?
Do you mind if I listen to itfor a second?
SPEAKER_07 (40:20):
No, not at all, no.
SPEAKER_04 (40:21):
Oh man, I don't know.
Um, for me, uh I'm just gonnasay uh change in the house of
flies by Deathcroats.
SPEAKER_08 (40:28):
Fuck yeah, dude.
That's a good one.
SPEAKER_03 (40:34):
Yeah, it is it is Dreamweaver.
SPEAKER_08 (40:36):
Is it Dreamweaver?
Yeah, um, I'm trying to think ofuh the proper way to say this.
I'm gonna say seductive uhDeftones music really is.
Yeah, especially House of Flies,man.
SPEAKER_03 (40:47):
That's yeah, okay, but passenger though.
Well, Passengers, passengers areones, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (40:52):
Yeah, emotional one.
I would say for me, I would sayrosemary by Deftones.
Oh, okay, okay.
I don't know if I should saymine.
SPEAKER_08 (41:03):
No, you gotta say it.
SPEAKER_05 (41:07):
I am not saying legs shaking, I'm saying worse
behavior by K1.
Just give it a list then, maybe.
SPEAKER_08 (41:12):
Worse behavior, okay.
SPEAKER_05 (41:14):
This is the rapper you showed me, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was uh uh it's that's ballright there.
Yeah, it's some ball knowledge,yo.
You play you played that songwhen you want to grow.
SPEAKER_07 (41:24):
Okay.
Hey man, I'll try it tonight.
SPEAKER_05 (41:28):
Try it tonight.
Worst behavior by KWN Trez.
Okay, all right, all right.
SPEAKER_08 (41:34):
Chris, what what's yours?
I'm so curious.
What's what's yours when youwhen your wife walks in that
room?
SPEAKER_01 (41:40):
Oh, oh, we've already gone over this.
This is for real.
Motion city soundtrack.
SPEAKER_08 (41:44):
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, uh I was hoping for uhit's like ninth grade, dude.
SPEAKER_01 (41:51):
It's like ninth grade.
SPEAKER_08 (41:55):
Uh let's see here.
SPEAKER_05 (41:58):
How about you?
SPEAKER_08 (41:59):
Oh, for me, um, I would have to say the song um by
Pearl Jam uh Future Days.
You might recognize it from theshow and uh video game The Last
of Us.
Uh, but that was my wife and I'ssong together.
(42:20):
Uh that and Extreme um fuck,what's that Extreme song that
everybody knows?
I can't remember.
Like the band?
Yeah, the band, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (42:31):
Play with me.
SPEAKER_08 (42:33):
Play with me is a great song, but that's not the
one.
No, and I don't know.
SPEAKER_05 (42:38):
Yeah, play with me is the one with the with the the
uh all the the all the classicalstuff in it, right?
Well, that's basically just anEno for you.
SPEAKER_03 (42:44):
Yeah, lucky.
SPEAKER_07 (42:45):
Um, yeah, I'm not sure it's that one that's like
saying I love you is not thewords I want to hear from you.
SPEAKER_08 (42:57):
I can't remember the name of the song though.
Yeah, it's all um let's seehere.
Okay, here we go.
What's your crowd surfing song?
Like a song you're you're seeinga band, and immediately you're
like, I'm rushing the stage.
SPEAKER_03 (43:15):
Recently, and I didn't do it and I regret it
because I saw them live.
Birds turnstile.
I wanted to get up so bad at theend of the show for that, and I
didn't do it because it was justit's just such a great moment,
you know, just to crowd surf forthat.
Yeah, I don't know what elsethough.
SPEAKER_02 (43:31):
I don't really uh crowd surf, so I don't even I
don't know.
Um it's like a good crowdsurfing song.
SPEAKER_03 (43:42):
I would I would low key want to crowd surf though,
just like laying back like thisat the end of the videon.
SPEAKER_00 (43:48):
And people are just yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (43:52):
I'm just on my back and people are pushing me
forward.
I'm just yeah that's that's mypick breakdown, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (44:01):
That's my pick.
SPEAKER_08 (44:02):
Um so I've only crowdsurfed one time in my life.
I was at a festival, um, I thinkin Pittsburgh, uh my wife crowd
surfs, or then girlfriend, nowwife, crowd surfs, and I had
never done it before because Iwas always a bigger dude.
(44:22):
So I'm like, fuck it, I'm gonnatry it.
I was at my thinnest, guys.
Like, literally, I was like 180pounds tops.
So I'm like, I'm I'm lookinggood, I'm beef, you know, I'm
gonna try this out.
And I go up, and I kid you not,this guy goes, Oh, this guy's so
fucking heavy, and then justthrows me into a mosh pit.
(44:47):
Oh my god, that's gonna be I wasI was like your age.
I was I was like 17, 18, and Iwas like, I'm never doing that
again.
SPEAKER_05 (44:59):
You gotta square up after that, dude.
SPEAKER_08 (45:02):
Dude, it was wild.
Luckily, the the mosh pits areawesome, so they just help me
up, and then they're like, Yougotta go around.
So then I just fucking moshed,and then after that, I was like,
Oh, this is where I belong.
I started moshing every time.
SPEAKER_00 (45:15):
Nice.
SPEAKER_08 (45:17):
Um, but yeah, dude, fucking dicks.
Shout out to that guy, whereverhe's at, whatever prison he's
sitting in.
SPEAKER_05 (45:26):
I'm like, damn, we gotta throw hands after that.
SPEAKER_08 (45:30):
All right, last one, guys.
All right, what is your go-todrinking song?
This is a horrible question foryou.
We're gonna say apple cider foryou guys drinking apple cider
too.
SPEAKER_03 (45:45):
Right.
Okay, if I were to choose asong, if that was the scenario,
right?
Um, this is obviously not beendone, but if I think I would
enjoy it, is Dirt by AllisonChains.
But the song like it's just Icould just imagine myself like
just like this, just like withsomething in my hands, yeah.
(46:10):
Yeah, that's real.
SPEAKER_04 (46:13):
If I'm like by myself, like in my room, and
like I just cracked open a coldone, I'm putting on my own
prison by Creed again.
SPEAKER_08 (46:21):
Really?
SPEAKER_04 (46:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_08 (46:23):
Are you a big Creed guy?
Um, or you just love that onesong.
SPEAKER_04 (46:27):
I really like the first album, honestly.
SPEAKER_03 (46:29):
The first album's awesome.
I'll tell you this much.
When we went to see Turnstyletogether, and the entire time
when we left and the day after,the only thing that played in
the car was Creed.
Yeah.
So that says basically enough.
SPEAKER_02 (46:51):
Okay, well, I don't want to be that guy, but I don't
I'm straight edge, so I don't donone of that.
So I'm gonna say the disciplineby Earth Crisis.
SPEAKER_08 (46:59):
Hell yeah, man.
SPEAKER_02 (47:00):
The straight edge, man.
SPEAKER_05 (47:04):
So me.
SPEAKER_08 (47:05):
Yeah, you're obviously straight edge as well.
You put off that vibe in theworld for sure.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (47:15):
Yeah, yeah.
Let's just answer the question.
Uh, what's it called?
Uh, if I was with you know alittle girl, uh, I'd put out a
song Deeper by Party Next Door.
SPEAKER_07 (47:24):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (47:26):
Okay, but your graphics won't open at 6 p.m.
on a Tuesday or some hard day ofwork, and you're just oh there
you go, yeah.
Working man, that's a great pickright now.
SPEAKER_08 (47:36):
That's a great pick.
SPEAKER_05 (47:40):
That's a great pick.
SPEAKER_08 (47:44):
Dude, working man by Rush.
What a great pick.
That's a great that's the rightanswer.
That might be just like theright answer.
SPEAKER_05 (47:49):
That is the answer.
I mean, he just described thesecond verse.
Exactly.
Right.
Off at five o'clock, and I takemyself out a nice cool beer.
SPEAKER_08 (47:58):
Yeah.
Um, right there.
I'm trying to think.
So, like, one of like myfavorite activities of all time
is I have uh a record player,and I I don't drink anymore, but
I used to, and I would crackopen like either a beer or pour
myself like a glass of like uhbourbon or something, and I'll
(48:19):
turn on a record and I'll listento it front to back.
Like that's like my favoriteactivity.
SPEAKER_03 (48:24):
Yeah, I get it.
What's your favorite one youlisten to in your experience?
SPEAKER_08 (48:28):
Oh dude, I I man, I don't even know.
I'm I'm a big Floyd fan, so likeI have like Dark Side of the
Moon is like one of my all-timefavorites.
Oh, yeah.
Um but like as far as like alistening experience, I really
got into a band called KeepFlying recently, and they're so
(48:49):
fucking cool, man.
If you guys get a chance, checkout Keep Flying, they're really,
really good.
Chris, what what's your uhwhat's your go-to drink?
SPEAKER_01 (48:58):
Uh drink and song?
Oh let's see if we if we'rehaving a bonfire out in the
field.
Solo cup.
No, god no.
Anything but Hank Williams III.
Um back in my party days.
Oh, it it was shimmy by systemof a down.
SPEAKER_08 (49:14):
Shimmy by system of a down?
SPEAKER_01 (49:16):
Oh, yeah, dude.
At that point, it's black.
Whoa.
And once I hit 21, it was like,this isn't fun anymore.
SPEAKER_08 (49:23):
Yep, that's that's kind of where I was, dude.
Once so I started at likeprobably about 18, somewhere
around there, maybe a littleyounger.
Um, so by the time I was like22, 23, I was just like, eh, all
right, it's just another Tuesdayat that point, you know?
Yeah, yeah, hell yeah, guys.
Well, um Saint uh or uh uhsorry, change Saint, everybody.
(49:48):
Thanks for coming on, guys.
SPEAKER_05 (49:49):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_08 (49:53):
No, dude, you guys are again, you guys are so
fucking cool, man.
I if you're ever in Virginia, Iwill be there.
Like, yeah, man.
Wherever you guys are, I want tocome out and see you because
really love the stuff.
Um, everybody go check outChainsaint, it's available
everywhere.
Uh, what do we got working onright now?
Will we in we're in the studio?
SPEAKER_03 (50:15):
We're doing some pre-production for some upcoming
music that's as far as I'll takeit.
SPEAKER_05 (50:19):
We just cooking.
SPEAKER_03 (50:20):
We just cooking, basically.
So we're cooking up right nowand um getting some new stuff
together and recording it,making it sound good.
And yeah, that's all I'll sayfor now.
SPEAKER_05 (50:30):
Technically, we just like chopping up the vegetables.
SPEAKER_03 (50:33):
What he said, cut cutting the meat, putting up
yeah, basically, prep.
SPEAKER_08 (50:39):
I need I need you in dude.
I need Sean.
I need you in my everyday lifejust hyping me up with these I
got certified hype man.
SPEAKER_05 (50:49):
I'm like, oh that's my guy right here.
He's about to get the bestpodcast.
Come on.
SPEAKER_08 (50:57):
Dude, uh so who uh who's primarily the the lyrics
of the band?
Who's writing the lyrics?
What what's your what's yourwriting inspiration?
Like like where do where wheredo you pull the essence from?
SPEAKER_03 (51:14):
I mean it's really just from whatever I'm I mean,
at least for blindsight at thetime, thinking about or you
know, what was happening, orkind of just life experiences
and whatnot, things that I couldtalk strongly about and kind of
you know put them into music andinto words and stuff that I can
just do that more fluidly.
SPEAKER_08 (51:33):
Yeah.
Um did you get into songwritingpretty young?
SPEAKER_03 (51:38):
Um, I mean, all music stuff really started for
me at around the same time asguitar with like around 2020 in
quarantine.
And I mean, I guess I'll justhave to say I was just very
influenced by other lyricists,like like Neil Peart,
especially, fantastic lyricist,you know, um mainly him, but
also one lyricist that Iremember inspired me in
(52:01):
particular for this music wasChuck Schuldner.
SPEAKER_07 (52:04):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (52:05):
I really like his lyrics, and I think he does a
fantastic job.
And that was something that kindof got me to even want to do
more lyrics and keep writingabout just stuff that I thought
about and liked.
SPEAKER_06 (52:16):
Do you do you feel that uh blind side is a direct
correlation to COVID and yourexperience during quarantine?
SPEAKER_03 (52:25):
Not really, it's more just I mean, just things at
the time at times we're writingthe songs, and as I started
writing the lyrics, that I waslike, okay, this or this or
this, and this is what I feelabout this.
These are things I'm hearingabout, I'm gonna write about it,
or it's an experience I justhad, I'm gonna write about it.
And they kind of made their waysinto the songs.
SPEAKER_08 (52:45):
What's the story behind 1000 tons?
SPEAKER_03 (52:47):
That was actually a collective um work lyrically
with all of us, but it was moreyou guys all sing on it, right?
SPEAKER_08 (52:55):
Uh you got like all of you singing on the one.
SPEAKER_03 (52:57):
Let's go.
We got backup vocals, but um wegot um we all pitched in on
lyrics on that, at least withsomething, you know.
Um, I mean, that song wasreally, at least for me, born
just kind of we we didn't reallyhave our lead singer at the
time.
We kicked him out, and thingswere not really looking the way
they were at first, and a lot ofpressure was there, of course,
(53:20):
you know what I mean?
And that was a thing, and youknow, like I said, life
experiences, so write aboutthem.
And we ended up just kind ofwriting all together.
And oh yeah, man.
Yeah, and that was that wasactually the first song we had,
Sean in the band writing withus.
SPEAKER_08 (53:37):
You yeah, hell yeah, guys, dude.
Love love the band, love all themusic.
Can't wait to see thetrajectory, can't wait to see
your career path.
I'm gonna be following you guyssuper closely, so don't be
afraid to come back on.
I as soon as you guys are donecooking, I want to talk about
this meal.
SPEAKER_00 (53:57):
Yep, let's do it.
SPEAKER_06 (53:58):
Yep, for sure.
SPEAKER_08 (53:59):
Hell yeah, guys.
SPEAKER_06 (54:00):
Sure now.
SPEAKER_08 (54:01):
All right, have a great night, guys.
I'll be seeing you.
SPEAKER_06 (54:05):
See you guys.
Peace.
Peace.
SPEAKER_07 (54:10):
Thanks for listening to the Look and Bridge Podcast.
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