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Ever want to throw a bag in the car, leave the stale routine behind, and floor it toward something that feels alive again? That’s the pulse beating through our conversation with Beth from A New Violet—a rock vocalist with a punk heart—fresh off the electricity of Warped Tour and deep in the craft of songs that move fast, hit hard, and actually say something.

We dive into 66, a highway anthem that doubles as a personal dare: escape the four walls, grab the person who gets you—or go alone—and chase a life that breathes. Beth opens up about the layers hidden in the lyric, from nostalgia and romance to self-motivation when you’re stuck. We unpack the new EP, The Heat Is Getting Hotter, calling out the line the heat is getting hotter, I’m burnt for a reason and exploring how the best hooks invite you back to discover the message underneath. Conformity takes the punk crown on the tracklist, a fast, defiant refusal to live by someone else’s plan or timeline, while Runaway channels a real friendship rift into a cathartic sing-along that still hits after the dust settles.

Along the way, we get into the studio process behind This Is My Life with Orlando’s Red Lion Studio, talk self-taught guitar roots, and debate hooks versus bridges—the hooks pull you in, but the bridge can turn a good song great. Beth shares why genre boxes feel too tight, how rock muscle and punk attitude can live in the same chorus, and why evolving sound is a feature, not a flaw. If you’re hunting for new rock music with real guitars, big choruses, and lyrics that stand for something, you’ll find plenty to add to your queue.

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SPEAKER_02 (00:39):
I don't work for you to have a podcast.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome back to the show.
I am your host, Harley, andtoday joined by a super special

(01:02):
guest, uh, Beth from the band ANew Violet.
Beth, how are you?

SPEAKER_05 (01:07):
I'm pretty good.
Uh a little tired.
I've been out all day, allweekend at Warp Tour.

SPEAKER_02 (01:12):
So Yeah, that's incredible.
Yeah.
Um, so how was Warp Tour?

SPEAKER_05 (01:20):
It was really, really good.
Really good.
I'm so glad they brought itback.

SPEAKER_02 (01:26):
You and me both.
I unfortunately wasn't able toattend any of them this year.
Um, but I'm I'm hoping thatthings change next year for me.
Um, were you an attendee or wereyou playing?

SPEAKER_05 (01:39):
Oh no, I I I wanted to play, but um actually my band
tried out for the Battle of theBands thing, but we we didn't
get nominated to play, so that'scrazy.

SPEAKER_02 (01:50):
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 (01:51):
Yeah, I I mean it is what it is.

SPEAKER_02 (01:55):
You guys are incredible.
I I absolutely love that you'rebringing back like old school,
just pure rock and roll.
Um, it's it's a really cool,like I don't know, I don't know
how people could classify you aspop punk.
I I'm not hearing that on myend.
Um, it's more of like a hardrock or just like like pure rock

(02:15):
to me.
Um maybe it's something to dowith your vocals.
You do have a little bit of ascream in there on occasion.
Um, but no, it's it's such acool sound to see kind of coming
back, and you guys are reallykeeping rock and roll alive, and
I I love that.
It's it's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 (02:32):
Um yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 (02:33):
Yeah, absolutely.
Uh, what was your favorite bandover in Warp Tour this year?

SPEAKER_05 (02:39):
Uh well, there's a few bands that I saw that I
really loved.
Like I've always loved YellowCard, um Ocean Avenue.
I got to see them live for thefirst time.
Um, Pennywise.

SPEAKER_02 (02:51):
Incredible band, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (02:53):
Classic.
Uh Bowling for Soup was playingtoday.
Uh even like Kill Switch Engage,they freaking rot.
Like, I'm not normally I'm notreally into like metal or like
hard rock like that, but likeman, they they like destroyed
the state.
It was so good.
Like work tour is so much betterbecause you can like walk right

(03:17):
up and be right in front of theband as opposed to like going to
one of these amphitheaters andyou pay like so much money for
tickets and you're so far back,or it's like you have to be
seated.
It just feels so alive and likeI don't know.
I I like my my heart is happyright now.
Just the feeling of warp tourthis year overall was insane.

SPEAKER_02 (03:39):
Yeah, yeah.
No, it's absolutely uh like likeI saw in the lineup, and um
we've had a few guests on theshow that were playing this
year, uh Jarrett Reddick fromBullying for Soup, um, and then
a band called Keep Flying.
I don't know if they were at theone that you went to today, um,
but they uh they were there uhin DC.

(04:00):
Um and yeah, I it was it seemedso awesome.
I I really wish I had been ableto go, but I hope that I hope
the roster gets even better nextyear.
I hope that uh I hope that youguys are able to be there.
You know what I mean?
That would be awesome.

SPEAKER_05 (04:15):
I hope so too.
I I really want to play warptour.
I've always wanted to play warptour.
I've just not been I haven'tlike got my act together enough
until like now, like how muchmore serious I am about my
music.
So I think that will we mighthave a better shot because I'm
really like pushing our musicand uh putting a lot more effort
into it.

SPEAKER_02 (04:35):
Yeah.
Hopefully speaking speaking ofthe music, let's talk about 66.
Um, have you been on Route 66before?

SPEAKER_03 (04:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (04:46):
So I have never been.
Is is it a cool trip?

SPEAKER_05 (04:51):
It's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 (04:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (04:54):
Um it's well worth the trip.
You you've got to do.
I think every single person thatlives here in the United States
or it has access to that road,you've got to do it at least
once in your life, you know,like take a whole trip from
across, like up the whole thing,and then back down.
And um, I also was on like I Ican't remember the the name of

(05:16):
the road, but it's like right inthe middle of the United States.
It's not 66, but it's anotherone.
Oh like through Texas.

SPEAKER_02 (05:25):
Oh no, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_05 (05:27):
I I can't remember the name of it, but it's a
really scary road to go on.

SPEAKER_02 (05:36):
Um especially when you're alone.
So what what would you say 66 isabout lyrically?
Just the adventure of it?

SPEAKER_05 (05:48):
Yeah, it's an adventure song.
It's like, fuck this life, fuckeverything.
I'm throw I'm throwing it allaway, and I'm just going on a
road trip.
And it's got like that nostalgicfeeling to it.
It also has uh a little bit ofromance because it's like the
lyrics are like with my headclose to yours, you know, like

(06:09):
you're on a road trip withsomebody that you want to be on
a road trip with.
It could be like your bestfriend, but um, it could be like
a lover too, like you guys arejust like throwing burning the
world behind you and just going.

SPEAKER_02 (06:22):
So I when I listened to it, I thought of it as like
uh a little deeper.
I thought of it as a way of likesaying, like, almost in a in a
motivational way to yourself,like I just I gotta get off my
ass and do something.
Like like that idea of just likeI'm sad, I'm depressed, I'm I'm
a homebody, and and I gotta Igotta get out there and just do

(06:44):
anything, literally anythingbesides what I'm doing right
now.

SPEAKER_05 (06:48):
Yeah, and that's the great thing about the song.
I think too, it's it's not justlinear.
There's like so many differentuh layers to it.
It could be you could make itinto like running away with like
someone you want to run awaywith, or it could be a song
about like just burningeverything behind you and being
like, I don't even care anymore.
Just rip your hair out and likethrow a bag in the car and fuck

(07:13):
off to the world.

SPEAKER_02 (07:15):
Was was there any sort of um relationship element
to it that kind of drove you towrite that?

SPEAKER_05 (07:21):
No, not at all.
I really just like that it thisis that part of the lyric where
it's like um with my head closeto yours, like that's that's
just um something I added inthere because it it just sounded
kind of neat, you know.
Like, if you're not coming withme, I'm going without you.

SPEAKER_00 (07:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (07:42):
Um, so you're like, I'm I'm sleeping on a dirty
floor, I'm writing lyric.
I'm just like, I'm ready toexperience something bigger than
just these four walls, you know.
Um, it's also like just kind oflike the the vibe of going to
different places and justexperiencing that place for the
moment and then moving on to thenext thing.

SPEAKER_02 (08:03):
And and that was the line for me that kind of was
like the you're talking toyourself in that moment.
Like, hey, I'm going with withor without you.
I'm going.
You know what I mean?
That alter ego of like, we'redoing this, no matter what you
think, we're doing this.
Um let's talk about the new EPin its entirety, uh,
specifically over again.

(08:25):
Um there's there's a line inthat song, and I I was I I was
here looking this up because Iwanted to get the line right,
but I can't find the lyrics.
Um there's a line that you havein there that's like the heat is
getting hot, and and that's whyI'm burnt, or something like
something along those lines.

(08:46):
I love that line so much.

SPEAKER_05 (08:49):
Um think of what it is.
Um I have 66 in my head rightnow.
So I'm trying to like switchover to over again.
Um well, wait around for anotherseas.
The heat is getting hotter.
I'm burnt for a reason.

SPEAKER_02 (09:08):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I love that line.
That's such a fun line.
How did you how did you come upwith that?

SPEAKER_05 (09:16):
I don't know how I come up with the like the
majority of my music.
I uh really just channel it in,like funnel it in somehow.
Uh it comes in random moments,you know?
Like I could be writing the songand then I'm I put it down and

(09:36):
then like I just start gettingmore lyrics that come in.
I'm like, oh, that sounds that'sgonna sound good.
Write it in there.
We try it out.

SPEAKER_02 (09:44):
You wrote that studio CPO when you wrote that
line, did you like have a momentwhere you're writing it down and
you're like, oh, this shit'sgood?

SPEAKER_05 (09:54):
Yeah, yeah.
But it's like you never know ifanybody's gonna catch anything
that you write.
Because I I've asked mybandmates, you know, I'm like,
um, like they don't even knowwhat this song is about, you
know, like they before they werein the band, I because I wrote
all the music.
Um, and some of the guys thatcame in later, I was like, you

(10:16):
know the lyric that goesda-da-da-da-da.
And they're like, What, what?
I'm like, have you listened tothe lyrics of the song?
Or you just like he's they'relike, No, I didn't listen.
So I'm like, okay, um, this isall in vain then.
Like, well, y'all are just whatare y'all doing?
Listen to the music.
Listen to the whole thing, notjust not just the music, like,

(10:39):
listen to the lyrics, what thesong is about, feel it.
But anyway, yeah, I never knowif anybody catches anything that
I write.
I'm so I'm glad I did.

SPEAKER_02 (10:48):
I'm I'm a songwriter too, so I I immediately jump
into lyrics and and startanalyzing and dissecting
everything.
And when like a clever line hitsme, I just I gravitate towards
it.
And that one I was like, I keptplaying it over and over.
I was like, oh, that's reallygood.
That's really clever.
Um again, you your your whole EPis very like adventurous, it's

(11:09):
very um like bubbly and and likegoing out.
You have this like very likegoing out energy.
Um except for conformity, in myopinion.

SPEAKER_05 (11:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (11:25):
What what makes conformity different on the EP?

SPEAKER_05 (11:29):
Oh, conformity um really stands out on its own
because I I think it's a littlethat one's like definitely more
of a harder hitting punk song.
Um it also that's just how Ifeel in general.
Like I hate being boxed in, Ihate time.
You know, I think time's stupid.

(11:51):
I think that it's I know thatsound sounds dumb, but like time
with um like the way that theworld go, like, oh, you have to
do this this way, you have to doit this way.
Like that's pukey feeling forme.
Um, so that song conformity islike I'm not doing anything you

(12:13):
say.
I'm gonna live.
I live for me.
Like when I die, when I'm nothere anymore, um, who's who's
gonna care what I was doing?
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
Live your life the way you want,not for another man.
Uh the whatever they're doingover there in in general, these
world leaders and these men thatthink that they know how to run

(12:35):
a country.
I'm talking about women too,like just men in general,
people.
They're it they're telling,they're trying to tell us how to
live our life and like what weneed to do.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, why do I have to live likethat?
So conformity is about notconforming to anything anybody

(12:57):
has to say or about who you are,what you're about, and really
living freely to who you are.
Um, so it's just a big attitudeto that.

SPEAKER_02 (13:08):
It yeah, it and it's like this attack on um suburban
society, you know what I mean?
That that traditional suburbanAmerican life, the the white
picket fins life.
Um I feel like you you kind ofnailed the idea of like that
that is kind of an outdatedmindset, you know?

SPEAKER_03 (13:30):
Really is, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (13:31):
Yeah, and I feel like your song really speaks to
like that's just that's just nothow things are anymore.
We don't we don't have to bethis version of everybody
doesn't have to be the same.

SPEAKER_05 (13:42):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I I love when people are justthemselves and not trying to be
something because they're toldto be or they're afraid to not
be that way.
Um, so I I really, really,really was born like that.
I came out that way.
So it's not it's not like I justwas like, yay, I like punk music

(14:03):
and I'm gonna be punk rock.
Like I was born punk rock, likeask my parents, you know, they
they couldn't keep me containedfor anything.
So um I that's why I love that'swhy I call my music punk too,
because like even if it has likemore rock elements or whatever,
punk is like the thing thatdrives the music, you know what
I mean.
Like the punk attitude, the punkum vibes and the what I'm saying

(14:30):
in my music.

SPEAKER_02 (14:31):
So yeah.
Yeah.
I think the the the musicscreams rock, but the lyrics
scream punk.

SPEAKER_05 (14:40):
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'm not traditionalpunk, it's not like I mean I
could write songs like that orall day, but I like a little
more depth to the music,something that people can feel.

SPEAKER_02 (14:53):
So now are you an instrumentalist yourself?

SPEAKER_05 (14:57):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (14:58):
Yeah.
Uh what what do you play?

SPEAKER_05 (15:01):
I play guitar, uh a little bit of keyboard, but
that's just the kind of finestuff.
Um, I can play bass, but I'm notreally into bass.
So I would say guitar is like mymain instrument.

SPEAKER_02 (15:13):
Yeah.
How long have you been playing?

SPEAKER_05 (15:18):
Well, I picked up a guitar when I was a kid, so it
was an old guitar from a uh whatdo you call it?
Yard sale.

SPEAKER_01 (15:30):
Oh nice.

SPEAKER_05 (15:32):
And it I think my mom picked it up or something,
and I I just started strummingit because I used to just make
up songs when I was a kid, justverbally making up songs.
So um when I got the guitar,then I could really like start
writing stuff and I didn't knowhow to play at all.
Um, but I self-taught when I wasa teenager.

(15:54):
So like I started reallylearning how to play guitar.

SPEAKER_02 (15:58):
Yeah, I'm also self-taught.
I I started around like 13.
Um I started from guitar hero,actually.
So I was playing guitar hero.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I was like, yeah, I couldprobably do this.

SPEAKER_05 (16:38):
I know, I I could never get into guitar hero
because I was like, this islame.
I'm just pressing buttons.
But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (16:45):
Um, let's talk about Runaway.
When I first heard the song, Ithought it was going to be a
cover.
It ended up not being a cover.
Um, tell me about like thelyrical story of Runaway.

SPEAKER_05 (17:02):
Oh, we're on Runaway now.
Okay.
So uh my friend and I actuallyhad a big falling out.
Um and so that song was kind ofinspired by that friendship and
our argument, like our fight,like um, like her talking shit,

(17:23):
and then me responding withlike, come on, bring your guns
out, you know.
So Runaway was yeah, that's howthat that song became something
because it was inspired by likea big fight I got with my
friend, but now we're friendsagain, so it worked worked out
perfect.
And when she heard it, she'slike, I knew Runaway was about

(17:43):
me.
I was like, Well, it wasn't allabout you, but it was definitely
inspired by our big fight we gotin because it it was just like
off the wall.
I'm like, what did where didthis come what happened?
You know?
Right.
So I was like, all right, you'regonna be you're gonna be the
muse for this song.

SPEAKER_02 (18:02):
Now, uh, do you do you plan on doing a follow-up to
Runaway since the relationshiphas been rekindled?

SPEAKER_05 (18:10):
It's hard for me to write songs that are nice.
I don't know.
I usually write a lot of mysongs through angst or like
things that bother me.
Um, but maybe I don't know.
Maybe I should try a differentavenue.

SPEAKER_02 (18:24):
I think that would be that would be a cool uh
sequel in the next DP for sure.

SPEAKER_05 (18:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (18:29):
You know what?

SPEAKER_05 (18:30):
Maybe I'll stick song.

SPEAKER_02 (18:32):
Yeah, there you go.
Um I want to talk about yourtattoos.
I I'm trying to the the sleeveyou have there is so cool.

SPEAKER_05 (18:41):
Oh, thanks.
Yeah, I've got uh I really loveanime.
I've always been big anime, uhjust inspired.
Like I used to just draw.
Um, like I'd get those booksfrom like Barnes and Noble and
draw anime, yeah.
So I was I just love anime.
So I've got like a pull-up dollhere.

(19:04):
Uh it's kind of like animestyle.
Got another one here.
She's like falling from the sky.

SPEAKER_02 (19:11):
It's very like cause.

SPEAKER_05 (19:13):
She's meditating.

SPEAKER_02 (19:16):
Nice.

SPEAKER_05 (19:17):
Yeah.
And the guy that did thistattoo, he was on meth when he
did it.
I didn't know.
Like my friend, she's like, Youwant to go get a tattoo?
Like, sure.
So she brings me to this guythat's really like he's a meth
addict.
And I was a little worried whenhe started, but he was a pretty
good artist.
Um, but the reason I bring thatup is because he added something

(19:39):
to it.
Right here.
I don't know if you can see it.
Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_01 (19:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (19:45):
This is not supposed to be there.
Um, it's just like her hair, andshe's just like, you know, I
never went back.
I didn't see like I neverfinished it because I was like,
I'm not going back to him.
Um, but yeah, this here, I Ifound out later that he tattooed
that on everyone.
Every tattoo he did on somebody,he would add that, like holes

(20:07):
like in the tattoo.
So it was like a signature ofhis.

SPEAKER_01 (20:12):
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 (20:13):
And I thought of it as like holes in his brain, like
meth holes.

SPEAKER_02 (20:17):
Right, right.

SPEAKER_05 (20:18):
That's the way that I like when I look at that,
that's what it means.

SPEAKER_02 (20:21):
It reminds me of you're into anime.
What uh did you grow up watchingany at all?

SPEAKER_05 (20:32):
Uh Howells Movie in Castle was like a huge- Yeah,
there you go.
That's like one of my all-timefavorite animes, and like
anything from him.
I I I can't remember his name.

SPEAKER_02 (20:44):
The oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (20:46):
Um I always forget how to say it.

SPEAKER_02 (20:49):
Uh Ghibli, Studio Ghibli is the studio, but I
don't remember his actual name.

SPEAKER_05 (20:56):
Yeah.
Uh anything by him, likeSpirited Away and things like
that.

SPEAKER_02 (20:59):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (21:00):
But I just find anime like on Netflix, and I'll
just watch certain ones.

SPEAKER_02 (21:05):
And have you seen um have you seen Flow with the Cat?

SPEAKER_05 (21:11):
I started watching that, but I have not got into it
yet.
Because I'm I'm working on likea few other ones, but yes.

SPEAKER_02 (21:19):
So I have a I have a one-year-old, right?
And and he loves cats.
So I was like, let's watch thiscat, you know.
Hey, there you go.
Yeah.
Um, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 (21:32):
Tell your son.
I know he's one, but like catsare awesome.
I love them too.

SPEAKER_02 (21:38):
Well, not to spoil it for you, but that movie is so
sad.
Like, 20 minutes in, I was like,completely invested in this
cat's world, and like makingsure this cat stayed alive
through the whole movie was soimportant to me.
Like, it was it's crazy.
There's not enough informationabout that movie.
When you play it, it's supposedto be like you know, just like a

(22:00):
family movie, and it's so sad.
Um, shout out Flo though.
Everybody watch Flo.

SPEAKER_05 (22:07):
Okay, yeah, I literally I turned it on, but
then I didn't end up likewatching it.
So now that you tell me that, Idon't know if I can watch it.

SPEAKER_02 (22:17):
Like if it's anything to do with it, it's
beautiful, it's not like sad,like there's nothing, no, no, no
deaths, no deaths.
Okay, all right, all right.
Beautiful, sad story.
Yeah, yeah.
Cat survives.
All of the all of the belovedanimals survive.
Um so let's jump into uh This ismy life.

(22:41):
The the first track, track one,comes in real hard.
Um what was the the melodicdirection?
Do you get do you have anyinsight on like the actual
instrumentation or do you justcome in with the vocals?

SPEAKER_05 (22:57):
On that song, I actually worked on that song
with my producer.
Um awesome.
Yeah, he has a studio called RedLion Studio, and I've been
working with him since runaway.
So 2021, like we have such agood working relationship.
I love that guy.
He's uh I would say hands downtop, top, top producer in

(23:21):
Orlando.

SPEAKER_00 (23:23):
Really?
Interesting.

SPEAKER_05 (23:26):
Um him and I worked on that together.
We sat down and started workingon instrumental and like
kickback ideas, and then we cameup with that together.
Um but yeah, he I he's just sowonderful to work with.
And I I can't really go intodetails about what we did
instrumentally.
Um because once we wrote likethe basic part of it, he went in

(23:51):
and he started adding like acouple new things to it to give
it like more like the bells andwhistles to it, which you
probably thinking about.

SPEAKER_02 (24:01):
Yeah, yeah.
Um, but the song itself is solike a perfect way to start the
rest of the album.
Um what what would you say isyour favorite song from this EP
like to work on?

SPEAKER_05 (24:19):
Uh the favor my favorite song to work well, 66
is actually gonna go on our nextCP, just so you know.
Um everything else is just theheat is getting hotter.
Um my favorite to work on.
I think it might have been ThisIs My Life.

(24:42):
That might have been my favoriteone.

SPEAKER_02 (24:44):
Yeah, I mean it it's such a it's like a brilliant way
to to intro in everything.
Like I said, it comes in realhard.
Um it's a really smoothtransition into Runaway.
Um do you feel that on this EPRunaway would be kind of the the
single per se on the album, orwould you say um over again?

(25:09):
I think over again is more catcatchy, but I think Runaway is a
better song.

SPEAKER_05 (25:16):
Yeah, Runaway is this like the single for sure.

SPEAKER_02 (25:19):
Yeah, yeah, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (25:22):
Um and that came out before the EP, so kind of like
66.

SPEAKER_02 (25:27):
Yeah, yeah.
So what are we looking for onthis next EP?

SPEAKER_05 (25:34):
I don't know.
What are we looking for?
Tell me.

SPEAKER_02 (25:37):
Well, so so are we able to talk about any of the
other tracks other than 66?

SPEAKER_05 (25:46):
I have nothing completely recorded yet.
It's all demos right now.
I'm going in don't mark my don'tmark my words, but planning on
January being the month we'reputting the we're gonna put all
our work into studio becauseright now I'm still working

(26:09):
working a little like I havethis song I want to do, but I'm
also uh adding and working withother things before I go into
the studio because I want tobring a lot more than what I did
the last time, so I'm a littlemore prepared.
But yeah, I have songs that Ihave songs that I've written

(26:30):
that are uh just demoed rightnow that I've I wrote in my
garage.

SPEAKER_02 (26:35):
So uh same kind of direction as 66.

SPEAKER_05 (26:41):
So it's got like a nostalgic vibe to it, but this
one of the songs that I'mtalking about right now is more
it's like more pop, um, more poppunk.
It it kind of reminds me ofBlink 182, a little vibe of
that, but it's also um a songthat it it like like thinking

(27:04):
back to the old days kind offeeling.
Yeah.
Um the lyrically like thinkingabout things that you did.
So it's probably a little moreheartfelt than 66, because 66 is
hard kick your kick you in theface.
And this one's a little morelike vibey, chill, but fun.

SPEAKER_02 (27:30):
Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (27:31):
Um and then I got other ones that are more 66.
So I'm trying to keep it whereit's not just like six all
everything's 66 across theboard, um where I have it breaks
it up a little bit.
And that's the problem with notthe problem, but I know like
people have an easier I easierway to keep their music together

(27:57):
like as a genre.
Okay.
I've never been good at that.
Um I like to pull in alldifferent elements.
So when because you were sayinglike I don't really see your
music as pop punk, I see it moreas like hard rock or rock,
right?
Um, so it's because I pull in somany different elements of music

(28:20):
when I write, it's hard to juststick with one thing for me.

SPEAKER_02 (28:25):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I mean, the and it gives theaudience like you you always
want to build your centralsound, but it gives the audience
uh a way to show yourdevelopment as an artist.
You know what I mean?
You can yeah, each thing shouldbe its own standalone piece,
each EP, each single, it shouldall be its own standalone piece,

(28:45):
and you should be able to umdiversify everything without
feeling oh, without feeling thatyou have to uh be stuck, you
know?

SPEAKER_05 (28:57):
Yeah.
Yeah, and that's really the likesome people have actually said,
why don't you just stick withone thing?
And I'm like, I can't it's hardfor me, you know?
Um but that's why I'm you haveif everybody's doing the same
thing, then it's boring.
So at least you know, I got someI give some people something to

(29:19):
talk about.

SPEAKER_01 (29:20):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (29:21):
You know, it's better than just being shelved,
I guess.
You know, I hope somethingfinally takes off for my band,
but um I'm just happy writingmusic, even if if nothing ever
really becomes of it.
It's it's just like a reallyit's a piece of me.
Um so you know, whether it goesbig or stays where it's at,

(29:45):
hopefully it doesn't just stay,but um, I'm happy doing it, you
know.

SPEAKER_02 (29:50):
Right.
Yeah, and that that's the art ofit.
That's you know, keeping keepingyour heart in the art is a huge
part of it.
Yeah, it's a huge part of it.
It truly is.
When when your heart's not in itand it's just commercialized, it
it loses the authenticity.

SPEAKER_05 (30:12):
Yeah, and I I I can see how that cookie cutter uh it
I can see how bands end uphaving to go cookie cut to keep
producing music with no feelingor thought or it it really just

(30:32):
becomes you become the machine,you know?
And it's okay it's okay to dothat every now and then, like
okay, you gotta put some stuffabout and just get it up there.
But um, I think a lot of peopleend up losing their art that
way.

SPEAKER_02 (30:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (30:47):
Unfortunately.

SPEAKER_02 (30:48):
Yeah, and then certain bands kind of develop
this sound and when they try andexpand.
Experiment and go outside of it,the fans backlash.
And it's like, well, maybe Idon't want to just be the first
album.
I want to do other stuff too,you know?
So yeah, I'm all for it.

SPEAKER_05 (31:06):
I I feel I feel that for bands too.
Uh, you know, because they'llcome out with one album that
just blows everybody's mind,like they love it, right?
And then they come out withanother album and it's slightly
different.
And then everybody's like, boo,what did you guys do?
Sell outs, you suck.
I don't even like I'm neverlistening to your albums.
Actually, I'm never gonna listento your music again.

(31:27):
You know, so I really feel badfor artists.
They're like, wait, but like, Ithought you liked me.
I thought you liked me as apart.
But you don't.
Um, yeah, that that I've seenthat happen so many times.
I had even me as like a tinylittle microscopic artist in
this whole big world of music.

(31:47):
I've had some people like when Ihad uh some songs come out, solo
stuff, and then I had this EP.
Uh I had this girl, she's like,What are you doing?
What what is what what is thismusic you're putting out now?
And she's like, it's okay, Iguess keep going.

(32:09):
And I'm like, What is is it thatoffensive?
Like, just give it a chance, youknow?
But it didn't sound anythinglike what I had put out before.
But those kinds of things thatthey stick with you.

SPEAKER_02 (32:23):
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 (32:24):
Um okay.

SPEAKER_02 (32:27):
Every negative comment, it's uh I got one, I
got one for you.
So I I collect vinyl records,and as a teenager, I put up a
video of me explaining thedifference between Pink Floyd's
Dark Side of the Moon repressedin 2014 versus the original, and
somebody put a comment on thevideo.
I'm I'm 15, 16, and somebody puton there, kill yourself, why are

(32:53):
you touching the vinyl?
And it stuck with me for I'm 3031, so I've never forgot.

SPEAKER_04 (33:03):
Yeah, that's so messed up, it's so messed up,
it's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 (33:09):
But yeah, that's like it sticks with you.
You're like, why?
Like, I don't know why you knowlogically that it's stupid, but
your emotional body can't let itgo.

SPEAKER_02 (33:24):
That's it's people are crazy.

SPEAKER_03 (33:27):
That's that's weird.
Man, that's yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (33:29):
That was the last video I made doing that.
I can tell you that.
I was like, okay, well, I don'tneed this.

SPEAKER_07 (33:35):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (33:37):
Um, so I do have I have two final questions for
you, and then we're gonna jumpinto this game.
I ask all of my guests thesequestions.
The first one is if you couldcollaborate with any artist that
would fit your sound.
So not like a dreamcollaboration, not like you
know, like Lady Gaga.
You know what I mean?

(33:57):
Somebody that would fit yoursound that is also really cool
to work with.
Who would it be?

SPEAKER_05 (34:05):
Uh I've always paramour.
I love I love Paramour.

SPEAKER_07 (34:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (34:13):
But they're that's a that's kind of like a dream
because they're so big.

SPEAKER_02 (34:18):
Yeah, but they think you're sound though.
Like that's that's the keyelement is like making sure that
whatever you're putting outwould be like a really cool
project.

SPEAKER_05 (34:31):
Yeah, I mean, there's quite a few, I could
think I mean hailstorm.

SPEAKER_02 (34:41):
Are you talking about like to write write a oh
you guys put together a song?
Like you you write a song andyeah.
I think hailstorm would fitperfectly with you.

SPEAKER_05 (34:53):
Oh, hailstorm.

SPEAKER_02 (34:57):
Yeah, you and Lizzie Hale.

SPEAKER_05 (34:59):
Huh?

SPEAKER_02 (35:00):
You and Lizzie Hale, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (35:02):
I saw her um last year, I think.

SPEAKER_02 (35:07):
She's awesome, man.

SPEAKER_05 (35:11):
Great performance.

SPEAKER_02 (35:12):
Yeah.
Um the other go ahead.
Oh, the the other thing too isher brother is super into like
cologne.
I don't know if you know that.
He's like a cologne dealer, likeI think in France.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (35:28):
Oh, okay.
No, I didn't know that.
I had no idea.
So he's like a cologne dealerthat's wild.

SPEAKER_02 (35:36):
Yeah, it's polar opposites.

SPEAKER_04 (35:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (35:42):
Um RJ, right?
Yeah, RJ.
Yeah, yeah.
Um, the other question that Ialways ask is uh we are called
the Hook and Bridge podcast fora reason.
Normally, I have a co-host.
Uh, unfortunately, she has towork tomorrow, so she couldn't
come on the show today.
Uh, it's my little sister.

(36:02):
I consider myself like the hookof the show, and she's like my
bridge.
So we like to ask everybody whatdo you enjoy when writing music?
Um, are you more of uh enjoymentin writing hooks or enjoyment in
writing bridges to your songs?

SPEAKER_04 (36:18):
Hooks.

SPEAKER_02 (36:19):
Hooks.

SPEAKER_04 (36:20):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (36:22):
Hooks.

SPEAKER_05 (36:23):
All about hooks.
And then bridge, but it's nottoo far behind it.

SPEAKER_02 (36:28):
Right.
I always tell everybody the thebridge can elevate a song from
good to great, you know?
Uh it's it's the the hook iswhat keeps people there, though.
You gotta have that that catchyriff.

SPEAKER_04 (36:42):
Yes.
I'm all about that.
How about you?

SPEAKER_02 (36:46):
What are you uh hook?
Hook for sure.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (36:51):
And your sister?

SPEAKER_02 (36:53):
Bridge, for sure.

SPEAKER_05 (36:55):
Bridge, all right.

SPEAKER_02 (36:56):
Yeah, but I like there that's perfect.

SPEAKER_05 (36:59):
She's cool.

SPEAKER_02 (37:02):
Yeah, she's super cool about it.
She um she is much quieter thanI am, and when she does chime in
with stuff, it's always like,oh, I never would have thought
of it that way, you know.
And that's what you want fromthe bridge.
Um, but I I'm the I'm the guythat's like sitting and thinking
of like, okay, what are we gonnacall this game?
All right, what are we gonnacall, you know, this t-shirt

(37:24):
idea or you know, those types ofthings.
I'm always thinking of speakingof games, are you familiar with
a game called Cards AgainstHumanity?

SPEAKER_03 (37:35):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (37:36):
So this is sort of like that, but it's music
themed.
So I'm gonna ask you somequestions and you're gonna
answer with the title of a song.

SPEAKER_05 (37:46):
Oh, I'm not good with titles of songs.

SPEAKER_02 (37:49):
Oh, well, then you're probably gonna suck at
this game, I'm gonna be honest.

SPEAKER_05 (37:55):
People are gonna just stop listening after three
seconds.

SPEAKER_02 (37:59):
Uh, I doubt that.
We had we had a trivia one nightwith um with an artist, and um
they got every single questionwrong.
There's 13 questions straight.

SPEAKER_04 (38:15):
There's 15 questions.
Oh gosh.
All right.

SPEAKER_02 (38:18):
All right.
First one, what is the mostAmerican blue collar song that
you can think of?

SPEAKER_05 (38:28):
Icky Breaky Heart.

SPEAKER_02 (38:30):
That's that's a great answer.
I that's a good one.

SPEAKER_05 (38:33):
Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 (38:34):
I immediately thought of um Oh, there you go.
Uh, I immediately thought of uhuh who's that guy?
Bruce Springsteen.

SPEAKER_05 (38:45):
Um, you know what?

SPEAKER_02 (38:46):
Born in the USA, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (38:49):
Or that song Halfway There.

SPEAKER_01 (38:54):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (38:57):
Living on a prayer.

SPEAKER_01 (38:58):
Yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_05 (39:00):
Okay, no, I do know titles.
I lied.

SPEAKER_02 (39:02):
There you go.
Um you're on a 14-hour roadtrip, no radio, the CD player is
stuck on repeat to the worstsong ever.
What is the worst song to havestuck on a road trip?

SPEAKER_05 (39:19):
Baby Sharp.

SPEAKER_02 (39:21):
Oh, yeah.
Oh, as a new father, I've heardthat song a lot.

SPEAKER_04 (39:28):
Yeah, can you imagine?

SPEAKER_02 (39:30):
Can you it's it's hell.

SPEAKER_04 (39:33):
So smashing it, punch it, kick it in.
There's no way I can deal withthat.
Be like, it's done, destroy it,burn it.

SPEAKER_02 (39:43):
I think I could how how long do you think you could
last listening to Baby Shark?
I think I could do two hours.

SPEAKER_05 (39:49):
You ooh, man, you're you have way more resilience
than I'm gonna patience,resilience.
I I got like you got like 30,you got 30 seconds.

SPEAKER_02 (40:03):
I think the whole song is like three minutes.

SPEAKER_04 (40:06):
I know 30 seconds, that's it.

SPEAKER_02 (40:11):
Um best song to sing at the top of your lungs in
order to embarrass your kids asyou drop them off at school.

SPEAKER_05 (40:28):
My my brain is going because I've seen like a lot of
reels where people are droppingtheir kids off and they like
blast music.
They're like, love you.
I don't know, like somethingsuper lame, super, super like
millennial, like Jenna.

SPEAKER_02 (40:44):
Uh Sandstorm by by Darude.
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (40:52):
That's that's that could do it.

SPEAKER_02 (40:55):
When when I was uh I had I had just graduated, and my
sister is seven years youngerthan me, so she was in middle
school.
Um I would I would take her homefrom band practice and I would
blast drowning pool.
That was my thing.
I would just roll down thewindows and just let bodies hit.

SPEAKER_05 (41:15):
I would I would think that was awesome if my
brother honestly, I thought itwas embarrassing.

SPEAKER_02 (41:20):
She was like, I love this.
Everybody thinks you're thecoolest.

SPEAKER_05 (41:24):
That's great.
Um, you know what I think wouldbe a really bad one?
Uh, did you ever hear the songthat it's like the Halloween
song?
Um, or it's Randy Randy's Randy,big Big D Randy.

SPEAKER_02 (41:39):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
From South Park?

SPEAKER_05 (41:43):
Last that.

SPEAKER_02 (41:46):
Oh, man.

SPEAKER_05 (41:47):
But you probably get in trouble because it is very
you might not be allowed within150 kg.
Yeah, I think yeah, I think thatlike the attendants at the
school would be like, um, you'renot allowed to drop your child
off at school anymore becauseyou're very illicit and we can't
have that kind of you know, atschool.

SPEAKER_02 (42:11):
So to uh dedicate a song to someone uh close to you.
So what who who would youdedicate a song to and what
would that song be?

SPEAKER_05 (42:25):
Um all right, so let's dedicate a song to my mom,
because she's like the nicestperson in the world, and I've
been so mean to her my wholelife.
Um it would be that song calledI get by with a little help from

(42:47):
my friends.

SPEAKER_02 (42:48):
Oh, yeah, Joe Conker.

SPEAKER_05 (42:50):
What is it?

SPEAKER_02 (42:51):
Joe Conker.
Uh help with a little from uh alittle help from my friends, Joe
Conker.

SPEAKER_05 (42:56):
Yeah, that would be a good one because my mom is
like my best friend, but youknow, how I don't know how your
sister was, but like girls andtheir moms butt heads really
bad.
Yeah, and um my mom is verysensitive and I'm very hard,
like I'm I'm I'm a little morelike raw and harsh in the way I

(43:17):
talk.
So I've but I've alwayswondered, like I always tell
them like you're my best friendthough, like you've been there
for me through so much, and um,so yeah, a little help for my
friends for my mom.

SPEAKER_02 (43:28):
I love that.
Shout out moms everywhere.
All right.
What is the grocery cart withthe squeaky wheel theme song?
It's an interesting one.
So you've you're you're in agrocery store, you've got a
grocery cart that's just not notmoving the way you want it to.

(43:51):
What song goes through yourhead?
Yeah.
I immediately thought move bitchget out the way.

SPEAKER_05 (44:00):
Move bitch, get out the way.
Is there a song called Take MeOut?

SPEAKER_02 (44:05):
Yeah, yeah, Franz Ferdinand.

SPEAKER_04 (44:07):
Yeah.
How does that go?
Let's see if it's the right one.

SPEAKER_01 (44:13):
Uh do do do do do do do do do I say you don't know.
You say won't you go?
I say take me out.

SPEAKER_05 (44:26):
Oh yeah.
Okay, that one.

SPEAKER_01 (44:29):
Yeah.
That's a good song.

SPEAKER_05 (44:32):
And it's not they'd probably play that in a grocery
store too.

SPEAKER_02 (44:35):
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
It's exclusively FranzFerdinand, Matchbox 20, uh, The
Verve.

SPEAKER_04 (44:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (44:45):
Um, if you had one disco song to listen to for the
rest of your life, what discosong would you want to listen
to?

SPEAKER_05 (44:54):
Ooh.
Man, there's been so many songsthat I've had on repeat, like
over and over and over, and I'mlike, I could live with this,
but I I I really love solomusic, so anything that it like
let's just let's go with like uhlet's go with like Edit James or

(45:19):
something, or like Oh, there yougo.

SPEAKER_01 (45:21):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (45:22):
Yeah.
You know, something classic thatyou're just like it's gonna be
alright.
Like, or we could go with likeum I'm feeling good.
That's all that one.
That would be a good one.

(45:42):
Is it or just some classicmusic?

SPEAKER_01 (45:45):
Yeah, yeah.
Uh at last, is that Ada James?
Yeah.
At last.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I love that song.

SPEAKER_05 (45:57):
Oh man, I love that song too.

SPEAKER_02 (46:00):
All right, this is the last one.
And it's and it's gonna be adoozy.
Um what is your funeral song?

SPEAKER_05 (46:12):
Oh, I'm not gonna die, so you and me both.
I'm gonna stick around forever.

SPEAKER_07 (46:18):
Uh my funeral song is oh, it's fuck you.

SPEAKER_04 (46:37):
Um that that song.

SPEAKER_01 (46:44):
And I'm like, fuck you.

SPEAKER_04 (46:48):
Fuck you, and fuck you too.

SPEAKER_05 (46:50):
I don't know.
What is that song?

SPEAKER_02 (46:51):
I think it's uh I think it's I got so many songs
in my head, like I think it'sCeeLo Green, CeeLo Green, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (46:59):
That one.

SPEAKER_02 (47:01):
That's a great answer.

SPEAKER_04 (47:03):
Not bad.

SPEAKER_02 (47:05):
Yeah.
Well, that is the end of ourshow, Beth.
Thank you so much for hangingout with us today.

SPEAKER_05 (47:11):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me today.
I had a great time.

SPEAKER_02 (47:14):
Yeah, absolutely.
You're welcome back anytime.
Um, everybody check out NewViolet, they're an absolutely
incredible band.
Um, 66 is out right now, and thenew EP is the heat is getting
hotter.
I highly recommend Runaway.
I love that song.
Um, 66 is also great.
So please, everybody, check outa new violet.

(47:36):
All right, thanks so much forhanging out.

SPEAKER_03 (47:38):
Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 (47:39):
All right, I'll see ya.

SPEAKER_03 (47:41):
All right, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 (47:46):
All right, everybody, that is the show.
Thank you so much.
It is uh time for me to headout.
Please check out the Instagramand um YouTube page, and it has
been real peace.

SPEAKER_07 (48:04):
Thanks for listening to the Lokin Bridge Podcast.
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