February 6, 2025 • 23 mins
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Samson Q2U Microphone & Fac (00:00):
Hi, this is, is she able with the
horse human connection matrix?
Recently I've interviewed somepeople that might seem a little
off subject for horses andhumans and that connection that
started the podcast.
In my mind though.
The matrix is so about whathorses teachers teach us about
life and about interacting witheach other.
(00:23):
Trying to stay somewhat on topicthough.
Today, I'm going to talk aboutbeing an older adult.
And having a lot of informationthat's been accumulated over the
years.
And what to do with that.
And I'm going to talk a littlebit about health care of horses
for beginners.
(00:44):
So those people out there thatare listeners and a part of the
quiet revolution in the horseworld, moving away from absolute
dominance.
If you have students ornewcomers to being with horses
this podcast may be reallyhelpful for them.
Just to outline some basics andto introduce other areas that
(01:07):
they may, and we'll need to knowmore about.
I also want to tell my listenersthat.
There is a button to donate ifyou feel moved to do so.
And that more than that, I'mnot, I'm not doing this for the
money.
I'm doing this because I have apurpose.
And that is the quiet revolutionin the horse world.
(01:29):
If you know anybody that mightbenefit from listening to the
podcast, please share it.
It's easy to.
Cut and paste it in applepodcasts or in Spotify.
And to just text it to a friendor a coworker.
I've also been contemplatingstarting a new podcast with a
partner podcaster.
(01:50):
And we're not quite clear on aname for that yet, but it might
be something like.
The human.
Matrix in nature.
Something to that effect.
Anyways, watch for that.
I'll talk more about it andprobably put a link in the show
notes.
As we get closer to releasingthose podcasts, they should be
(02:11):
some really great conversationsabout.
What people can do to help shiftthe culture.
So.
In a way, the quiet revolutionis a.
Metaphor.
For how we can shift our cultureas well, away from dominance
away from false beliefnarratives away from what's
(02:34):
happened in world governmentsand economics.
Way to become more aware, whichstarts with slowing down.
So the new podcasts are moreabout that.
More about the human matrix innature and how we interact with
nature.
And how we have gotten so faraway with our thinking, which of
course creates our reality.
(02:58):
And busting up some mythsbecause there's a lot of myths
that need to be busted.
I'm going to jump in about beingan older adult.
Oh, I turned 62 in January.
And.
I have.
I have some skills as, as a deeplistener.
(03:21):
And I know that there's a lot ofhealing that takes place as a
deep listener.
One of the other reasons Istarted this podcast is I have a
lot to say, but I also.
Don't want to push people awayor inundate them with all the
information that I'veaccumulated in six decades.
And.
(03:42):
I want to be respectful of that,but I also want to be a
resource.
I can remember being young in mytwenties and before, and even in
my forties and being aroundolder adults who just seem to
need to talk and talk and talkand had very little awareness of
what other people were goingthrough or how to relate to
(04:02):
them.
I don't want to be that person.
And if you're over.
Random number 58.
You don't want to be that personeither.
Cultivating skills for being adeep listener.
Finding a place to channel allof your knowledge where people
can accept it or not.
(04:23):
Seems important.
So a podcast is a great resourcefor doing that.
I can talk into this microphone.
For half hour at a time hour ata time now I don't usually go on
that long, but it, it gives me aplace to channel things that
might be helpful for peoplewithout offending them or.
(04:46):
Cutting into time where I couldbe deeply connected with my
heart, to them through listeningand.
In reality.
My brain knows.
And my heart knows that whatyounger people really need is a
listener, not more information.
Somewhere deep inside me.
I know that even my kid and mygrandchild will figure it out
(05:11):
without my help.
In the terms of information.
So there you have it.
It's always a fine line, a tightrope to walk with unsolicited
information that people youthink they need, but they might
not be asking for.
If you do feel moved to start apodcast, Buzzsprout has a series
(05:31):
of, I believe, five podcasts onhow to do a podcast that make it
super easy, super cheap.
And It can be a really, a reallygreat way to leave a bit of a
legacy.
Okay, I'm going to start talkingabout.
Horses again.
So when I was new to horses, Iwas very lucky to have some
(05:52):
experts in the field, mentor meand teach me.
And yeah, I gave him some money.
And I learned a lot about notjust how to ride, but how to
care for a horse.
And I learned at every time youare on a horse or even walking a
horse.
Or feeding them, you are alsotraining them.
You're interacting with them.
(06:14):
Those are really importantconcepts that everything we do.
Has an effect.
Just like people, right.
One of the hot topics as I'mgazing out on my barn with about
an inch of snow and ice on it isblankets.
Do horses need horse blankets?
When do they need horseblankets?
(06:35):
So there's a general rule thatsays don't put a horse blanket
on, unless it's under 36degrees.
Definitely take a horse blanketoff.
If it's over.
40 degrees.
And the horses.
That are going to have ablanket, probably need one.
(06:57):
When we approach freezing or 28,28 seems to be where my horses
here in middle Southern Oregon,where it's a very damp.
So our cold feels very cold.
Want to have a blanket?
Ah, there's so many like nuancesto blankets though.
When.
(07:17):
In the time of year in theapproach to winter, do you put
on a blanket?
What if it gets really cold inOctober?
No.
Don't put a blanket on horses.
Need enough exposure to cold, toshiver a little.
In order to stimulate a goodwinter hair growth.
So we don't want to stop that byputting a blanket on them too
(07:37):
soon.
Allow them to grow a coat beforeyou begin to blink at them.
And they're going to be someexceptions to this.
There are people that may have avery different idea.
If you're dealing with a 30, 40,50, a hundred thousand dollar
horse, it's in a barn all thetime.
I'm not even gonna talk aboutthat cause.
My mind can't go there or wraparound what those horses go
(07:59):
through or the people that ownthem.
But in a middle situation.
When a horse needs a blanket orwould appreciate a blanket is
after they have a winter coat.
On a day that it's going to getbelow freezing.
And.
It's also important to look at.
How long is it going to befreezing we have these wonderful
(08:22):
devices that break our weatherdown in little increments of.
What it is every hour.
And I don't really trust myiPhone up here in my region.
It is always wrong, but there'sa lot of places.
To at least get an idea that youknow, where I am.
The coldest part of the night isbetween four and 6:00 AM.
(08:44):
So there are many nights that myphone says, oh, it's only going
to be 33 degrees until 4:00 AM.
At which point it might dropdown maybe even as low as 28,
but only for an hour or two.
So the exposure of how long yourhorse is exposed to super cold
weather is a factor too.
(09:06):
Just like it is taking it off inthe afternoon.
I drive all over Douglas countyand see horses blanketed at 50
degrees.
I think they're miserablysweating.
But if it's only 50 degrees foran hour, At 4:00 PM.
Maybe it's not quite that bad.
Or if the horse has a lot ofshady pockets in its pasture,
(09:28):
maybe it's not so bad.
If the wind's blowing hard.
Maybe it's okay.
So the things we need to look atare not just what the
temperature is.
What is the moisture in the air?
How long is it going to be thattemperature?
Are you going to be able to getout there?
(09:48):
And take the blanket off if itturns 60 degrees that day, and
it was 28 that night, what's thebetter deal having the horse to
hot or having the horse toocold.
Taking in the windshield factor,taking in the ability to get
inside a barn, to get in theshade, to get to shelter, to get
out of the wind.
(10:08):
All of these things come intoplay.
When we're talking about when toput a horse blanket on not to
mention how thick is the horseblanket, some are just like,
are.
Raincoat a windbreaker, which isdefinitely going to trap heat
and help keep the horse warmer.
But it's not the same as like aquilted blanket.
Or a blanket with some polyfill.
(10:32):
So that's my take on horseblankets.
There's no absolute correct.
Answer, but there's lots ofthings to consider.
Think about your horse whenyou're putting on the horse
blanket.
When that next topic forbeginners is laminitis also
called founder.
When your horse is standing withits front feet and back feet
(10:54):
closer together.
Then having a straight line fromthe shoulder to the Hough.
Meaning they're angled in.
Not front to front, but front toback.
That's a time to be concerned.
When your horse.
Has a crusty part.
Just above.
It's Withers on its neck and bycrusty, I mean, It doesn't flex
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easily.
It feels like there's a fatmuscle.
Conglomeration there that's thatstiff.
It's not super flexible.
That can be an indicator of howthe fat is stored.
And if your horse may becomelaminate at certain breeds, a
lot of draft horses.
Morgan's.
Some of the larger horses aregoing to be more susceptible to
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laminitis or founder.
Than other breeds, like quarterhorses and Mustangs.
Laminitis is to horses.
What diabetes is to people.
It's too much sugar.
It's too much food and too muchsugar.
And in end stages, laminitis hasa very, very horrible.
(12:05):
Outcome in that the hook can become detached from the horse and
the horse will need to be putdown, or it will become loose
and rotate at the coronary band.
My terminology may not beexactly Lead correct on those
things, but you get the generalidea.
(12:28):
So let's talk about sugar ingrasses.
Many different kinds of grasses.
Some are much higher in sugarand protein.
And fiber content.
And carbohydrates.
And if you buy.
Grass seed pellets at your feedstore.
And you look at the back ofeither the card they have
hanging or read the packagecarefully.
(12:49):
You'll be able to compare.
Those nutrients in the types ofgrass pellets.
So there's Taft, there's orchardgrass, there's meadow, grass,
there's alfalfa.
And there's Timothy.
All of these grasses are goingto be a little bit different.
In my research test is the bestfor my laminated course because
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it's the lowest in sugar.
Buying hay.
In my county, I can rent aplunge tester that pulls a core
sample from my local extensionoffice.
To test the hay.
So I know how much sugar is init.
I know how much protein is in itbefore I buy it.
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It's a lot of trouble, but ifyou have a horse that maybe
facing laminitis, it's probablyworth doing.
There's also places on Facebookand I will look for links to put
in the show notes.
I can't remember off the top ofmy head where people have done
research on.
Minerals.
And.
(13:54):
Sugar absorption.
And the best I remember of thisis that are up there.
Uptake receptors for iron zincand copper are the same
receptor.
If a horse gets and they have acertain ratio of each of these,
I think.
I don't want to quote it wrong,but the iron is definitely more
than the zinc and the copper.
And there are percentages.
(14:16):
And one year I put some iron.
In my pasture to kill the loss.
And my horses minerals got allscrewed up.
My horse never been so laminate.
And what I found out is that.
The uptake receptors for thosethree minerals are the same
receptor.
So if they have too much iron,they will become deficient in
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copper and zinc.
And somehow the balance of thosethree minerals affects how they
metabolize the sugar in thegrass or the pasture.
So these things are reallyimportant.
If your horse is sick, it can bea nutritional issue.
And yeah, there's probably somemetabolic medications that can
help, but I always try toapproach diet before medicine.
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In the pasture, the length ofthe grass, the type of the
grass, the time of day, and thetemperature all affect the sugar
in the grass.
So here's the basics.
It's better to graze at night.
Between 10 and two in the warmermonths, the sugar content is
higher in your grass.
Keep your horse off the pastordoes between 10 and two in the
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spring and summer, if you thinkshe or he is The height of the
grass.
If the grass is less than threeinches, the sugar content is
higher.
If the grass is between threeand seven inches, it's optimal.
If it's over seven inches, itmay be going to seed with a
higher protein content, whichalso affects.
(15:49):
The nutrition and the laminitis.
I know that was a lot ofinformation.
I'm going to recap.
If your horse has warm hoofs ora warm Huff.
If your horse says, neck isespecially non flexible.
Especially in the area above theWithers.
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Be suspicious of laminitis orfounder.
If your horse is standing withits front and rear legs together
where there's an.
Closer together then straightdown.
Be suspicious of laminitis.
Laminitis is like horsediabetes.
It's about sugar.
Metabolizing.
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There are minerals that affectthis.
The type of grass you feed isimportant.
That time of day you're on thepasture is important.
The length of the grass in thepasture is important.
Laminitis is horrible, horribleto deal with.
(16:51):
All right.
So I'm going to talk a littlebit about.
Colic.
Horse colic and can be very,very serious.
Indications of a horse collarking are turning around and
biting at its side.
I don't mean just like anoccasional itch, but repetitive.
If you see a bunch of lick markson their side watch them for a
(17:13):
while.
If a horse is rolling a lot ordoesn't look well and is laying
down for a long period of time,those can all be signs of colic.
Colic is a constriction in theintestines.
There are some over the counterremedies that can help relax
that and help.
I think most vets will write aprescription or give you.
(17:38):
A Banamine paste, which is alsothe cure.
For colic.
So, if you think your horse hascolic.
It's a good idea to watch it fora while.
Get it up.
If it's laying down, put ahalter on and get that horse up.
If you can't get it up, call thevet.
Walking the horse until itpoops.
(17:59):
Once you see the horse poop, youknow, that whatever constriction
has been causing that discomfortin their abdomen has released.
If you're walking a horse aroundand it's not pooping.
You can try bringing it to thetrailer.
A lot of horses will poop beforethey get in the trailer.
And so just the anticipation ofneeding to load up can stimulate
(18:22):
the nervous release of a goodpoop.
And you can be more relieved.
It is always good to follow upwith your vet with a phone call.
If you can, you know, the modernautomated age has made.
Contacting vets, at least for myexperience, quite difficult.
So many options on that phoneand the buttons and getting a
(18:44):
real person and that actuallygetting to the vet or emailing
and waiting three days for aresponse.
I know they're doing the bestthey can, but.
Man, I wish nobody had everinvented the answering machine.
So first aid for cuts andabrasions.
Is it, is it important to treatthem.
I don't know.
I, you know, I think there's alot of controversy about that.
(19:06):
There's certainly a lot ofproducts.
On the market.
If it's a deep wound, it shoulddefinitely be cleaned out and
treated.
A lot of just the appointments.
That are antibacterial and we'llkeep flies out of a wound are
easy to use.
I found one product with sulfurand mineral oil.
It's old school.
(19:26):
Can't remember the name of itoff the top of my head.
It works really well.
If your horse has an eyeinfection, don't mess around.
Call the vet.
There've been a couple ofoccasions where my horses are
now having a seasonal allergy.
Inflammation of their eyes.
And sometimes I, not that my vetrecommends this and I'm not a
(19:50):
medical professional.
But I have treated it withcolloidal, silver and had some
success.
Antibiotic creams dropsointments that the vet will give
you.
The thing about AISES.
If you have a cream from beforethat has a steroid and your
horse actually has a scratch oran abrasion in their eye.
(20:10):
The steroid iscounter-indicated.
So don't.
Don't think you know about.
Antibacterial.
Prescription appointments withsteroids or antibacterial
ointments without steroids, itcan be confusing.
in my mind, an eye injury orinflammation or redness in a
(20:31):
horse is serious enough to callthe vet every time.
So just a little side thingabout pain with horses and
humans and something that a lotof people don't know.
Is walking in a herd.
Releases endorphins that takepain away.
(20:52):
There's a couple studies inhumans with this, I myself have
experienced it multiple times.
Taking a walk with your horse.
Horses.
Something magical happens.
And.
They can make pain go away.
So it follows at least in mymind, trying to be logical.
(21:13):
That if your horse is in pain.
And being out in a pasture withits buddies.
Is not going to cause damage insome way.
They're better off there thanthey are install rest again,
unless it's going to causedamage in some other way,
because the other horses willhelp with their pain.
The endorphins that happen in aherd are going to help.
(21:37):
And I don't know.
Everything that that has to dowith there's so many mysteries.
Now that science is finallycatching up to one example, the
telepathy tapes.
If you have not heard about Dr.
Hennessey Powell and thetelepathy tapes, it will blow
your mind.
She is documented worldwide inisolated cases, in all parts of
(21:59):
the world.
That non-verbal autisticchildren are communicating
telepathically with theircaregivers.
A lot of these tests where wethought these kids were savant
actually, is that they'rereading the answers of the
person, quizzing them.
Yeah, telekinesis.
Telepathy.
All those things are real.
(22:21):
The endorphins that happenedwith the horses in the herd.
They're real.
The healing that happens betweenhorses and humans.
It's real science is catchingup.
Anyway.
That is my podcast for today.
It's been a while since Ireleased one.
I've had a couple of peopleneeding to reschedule interviews
several times.
We can look forward in thefuture too.
(22:42):
Two more interviews with horseprofessionals.
Can't wait to get a glimpse intosome more training methods with
a barrel racer.
And a horse therapist who isgoing to be a guest, hopefully
next week.
All right.
Is she able again?
Thanks for listening.
Tell a friend.
Hi, this is, is she able with the
horse human connection matrix?
Recently I've interviewed somepeople that might seem a little
off subject for horses andhumans and that connection that
started the podcast.
In my mind though.
The matrix is so about whathorses teachers teach us about
life and about interacting witheach other.
(00:23):
Trying to stay somewhat on topicthough.
Today, I'm going to talk aboutbeing an older adult.
And having a lot of informationthat's been accumulated over the
years.
And what to do with that.
And I'm going to talk a littlebit about health care of horses
for beginners.
(00:44):
So those people out there thatare listeners and a part of the
quiet revolution in the horseworld, moving away from absolute
dominance.
If you have students ornewcomers to being with horses
this podcast may be reallyhelpful for them.
Just to outline some basics andto introduce other areas that
(01:07):
they may, and we'll need to knowmore about.
I also want to tell my listenersthat.
There is a button to donate ifyou feel moved to do so.
And that more than that, I'mnot, I'm not doing this for the
money.
I'm doing this because I have apurpose.
And that is the quiet revolutionin the horse world.
(01:29):
If you know anybody that mightbenefit from listening to the
podcast, please share it.
It's easy to.
Cut and paste it in applepodcasts or in Spotify.
And to just text it to a friendor a coworker.
I've also been contemplatingstarting a new podcast with a
partner podcaster.
(01:50):
And we're not quite clear on aname for that yet, but it might
be something like.
The human.
Matrix in nature.
Something to that effect.
Anyways, watch for that.
I'll talk more about it andprobably put a link in the show
notes.
As we get closer to releasingthose podcasts, they should be
(02:11):
some really great conversationsabout.
What people can do to help shiftthe culture.
So.
In a way, the quiet revolutionis a.
Metaphor.
For how we can shift our cultureas well, away from dominance
away from false beliefnarratives away from what's
(02:34):
happened in world governmentsand economics.
Way to become more aware, whichstarts with slowing down.
So the new podcasts are moreabout that.
More about the human matrix innature and how we interact with
nature.
And how we have gotten so faraway with our thinking, which of
course creates our reality.
(02:58):
And busting up some mythsbecause there's a lot of myths
that need to be busted.
I'm going to jump in about beingan older adult.
Oh, I turned 62 in January.
And.
I have.
I have some skills as, as a deeplistener.
(03:21):
And I know that there's a lot ofhealing that takes place as a
deep listener.
One of the other reasons Istarted this podcast is I have a
lot to say, but I also.
Don't want to push people awayor inundate them with all the
information that I'veaccumulated in six decades.
And.
(03:42):
I want to be respectful of that,but I also want to be a
resource.
I can remember being young in mytwenties and before, and even in
my forties and being aroundolder adults who just seem to
need to talk and talk and talkand had very little awareness of
what other people were goingthrough or how to relate to
(04:02):
them.
I don't want to be that person.
And if you're over.
Random number 58.
You don't want to be that personeither.
Cultivating skills for being adeep listener.
Finding a place to channel allof your knowledge where people
can accept it or not.
(04:23):
Seems important.
So a podcast is a great resourcefor doing that.
I can talk into this microphone.
For half hour at a time hour ata time now I don't usually go on
that long, but it, it gives me aplace to channel things that
might be helpful for peoplewithout offending them or.
(04:46):
Cutting into time where I couldbe deeply connected with my
heart, to them through listeningand.
In reality.
My brain knows.
And my heart knows that whatyounger people really need is a
listener, not more information.
Somewhere deep inside me.
I know that even my kid and mygrandchild will figure it out
(05:11):
without my help.
In the terms of information.
So there you have it.
It's always a fine line, a tightrope to walk with unsolicited
information that people youthink they need, but they might
not be asking for.
If you do feel moved to start apodcast, Buzzsprout has a series
(05:31):
of, I believe, five podcasts onhow to do a podcast that make it
super easy, super cheap.
And It can be a really, a reallygreat way to leave a bit of a
legacy.
Okay, I'm going to start talkingabout.
Horses again.
So when I was new to horses, Iwas very lucky to have some
(05:52):
experts in the field, mentor meand teach me.
And yeah, I gave him some money.
And I learned a lot about notjust how to ride, but how to
care for a horse.
And I learned at every time youare on a horse or even walking a
horse.
Or feeding them, you are alsotraining them.
You're interacting with them.
(06:14):
Those are really importantconcepts that everything we do.
Has an effect.
Just like people, right.
One of the hot topics as I'mgazing out on my barn with about
an inch of snow and ice on it isblankets.
Do horses need horse blankets?
When do they need horseblankets?
(06:35):
So there's a general rule thatsays don't put a horse blanket
on, unless it's under 36degrees.
Definitely take a horse blanketoff.
If it's over.
40 degrees.
And the horses.
That are going to have ablanket, probably need one.
(06:57):
When we approach freezing or 28,28 seems to be where my horses
here in middle Southern Oregon,where it's a very damp.
So our cold feels very cold.
Want to have a blanket?
Ah, there's so many like nuancesto blankets though.
When.
(07:17):
In the time of year in theapproach to winter, do you put
on a blanket?
What if it gets really cold inOctober?
No.
Don't put a blanket on horses.
Need enough exposure to cold, toshiver a little.
In order to stimulate a goodwinter hair growth.
So we don't want to stop that byputting a blanket on them too
(07:37):
soon.
Allow them to grow a coat beforeyou begin to blink at them.
And they're going to be someexceptions to this.
There are people that may have avery different idea.
If you're dealing with a 30, 40,50, a hundred thousand dollar
horse, it's in a barn all thetime.
I'm not even gonna talk aboutthat cause.
My mind can't go there or wraparound what those horses go
(07:59):
through or the people that ownthem.
But in a middle situation.
When a horse needs a blanket orwould appreciate a blanket is
after they have a winter coat.
On a day that it's going to getbelow freezing.
And.
It's also important to look at.
How long is it going to befreezing we have these wonderful
(08:22):
devices that break our weatherdown in little increments of.
What it is every hour.
And I don't really trust myiPhone up here in my region.
It is always wrong, but there'sa lot of places.
To at least get an idea that youknow, where I am.
The coldest part of the night isbetween four and 6:00 AM.
(08:44):
So there are many nights that myphone says, oh, it's only going
to be 33 degrees until 4:00 AM.
At which point it might dropdown maybe even as low as 28,
but only for an hour or two.
So the exposure of how long yourhorse is exposed to super cold
weather is a factor too.
(09:06):
Just like it is taking it off inthe afternoon.
I drive all over Douglas countyand see horses blanketed at 50
degrees.
I think they're miserablysweating.
But if it's only 50 degrees foran hour, At 4:00 PM.
Maybe it's not quite that bad.
Or if the horse has a lot ofshady pockets in its pasture,
(09:28):
maybe it's not so bad.
If the wind's blowing hard.
Maybe it's okay.
So the things we need to look atare not just what the
temperature is.
What is the moisture in the air?
How long is it going to be thattemperature?
Are you going to be able to getout there?
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And take the blanket off if itturns 60 degrees that day, and
it was 28 that night, what's thebetter deal having the horse to
hot or having the horse toocold.
Taking in the windshield factor,taking in the ability to get
inside a barn, to get in theshade, to get to shelter, to get
out of the wind.
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All of these things come intoplay.
When we're talking about when toput a horse blanket on not to
mention how thick is the horseblanket, some are just like,
are.
Raincoat a windbreaker, which isdefinitely going to trap heat
and help keep the horse warmer.
But it's not the same as like aquilted blanket.
Or a blanket with some polyfill.
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So that's my take on horseblankets.
There's no absolute correct.
Answer, but there's lots ofthings to consider.
Think about your horse whenyou're putting on the horse
blanket.
When that next topic forbeginners is laminitis also
called founder.
When your horse is standing withits front feet and back feet
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closer together.
Then having a straight line fromthe shoulder to the Hough.
Meaning they're angled in.
Not front to front, but front toback.
That's a time to be concerned.
When your horse.
Has a crusty part.
Just above.
It's Withers on its neck and bycrusty, I mean, It doesn't flex
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easily.
It feels like there's a fatmuscle.
Conglomeration there that's thatstiff.
It's not super flexible.
That can be an indicator of howthe fat is stored.
And if your horse may becomelaminate at certain breeds, a
lot of draft horses.
Morgan's.
Some of the larger horses aregoing to be more susceptible to
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laminitis or founder.
Than other breeds, like quarterhorses and Mustangs.
Laminitis is to horses.
What diabetes is to people.
It's too much sugar.
It's too much food and too muchsugar.
And in end stages, laminitis hasa very, very horrible.
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Outcome in that the hook can become detached from the horse and
the horse will need to be putdown, or it will become loose
and rotate at the coronary band.
My terminology may not beexactly Lead correct on those
things, but you get the generalidea.
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So let's talk about sugar ingrasses.
Many different kinds of grasses.
Some are much higher in sugarand protein.
And fiber content.
And carbohydrates.
And if you buy.
Grass seed pellets at your feedstore.
And you look at the back ofeither the card they have
hanging or read the packagecarefully.
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You'll be able to compare.
Those nutrients in the types ofgrass pellets.
So there's Taft, there's orchardgrass, there's meadow, grass,
there's alfalfa.
And there's Timothy.
All of these grasses are goingto be a little bit different.
In my research test is the bestfor my laminated course because
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it's the lowest in sugar.
Buying hay.
In my county, I can rent aplunge tester that pulls a core
sample from my local extensionoffice.
To test the hay.
So I know how much sugar is init.
I know how much protein is in itbefore I buy it.
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It's a lot of trouble, but ifyou have a horse that maybe
facing laminitis, it's probablyworth doing.
There's also places on Facebookand I will look for links to put
in the show notes.
I can't remember off the top ofmy head where people have done
research on.
Minerals.
And.
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Sugar absorption.
And the best I remember of thisis that are up there.
Uptake receptors for iron zincand copper are the same
receptor.
If a horse gets and they have acertain ratio of each of these,
I think.
I don't want to quote it wrong,but the iron is definitely more
than the zinc and the copper.
And there are percentages.
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And one year I put some iron.
In my pasture to kill the loss.
And my horses minerals got allscrewed up.
My horse never been so laminate.
And what I found out is that.
The uptake receptors for thosethree minerals are the same
receptor.
So if they have too much iron,they will become deficient in
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copper and zinc.
And somehow the balance of thosethree minerals affects how they
metabolize the sugar in thegrass or the pasture.
So these things are reallyimportant.
If your horse is sick, it can bea nutritional issue.
And yeah, there's probably somemetabolic medications that can
help, but I always try toapproach diet before medicine.
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In the pasture, the length ofthe grass, the type of the
grass, the time of day, and thetemperature all affect the sugar
in the grass.
So here's the basics.
It's better to graze at night.
Between 10 and two in the warmermonths, the sugar content is
higher in your grass.
Keep your horse off the pastordoes between 10 and two in the
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spring and summer, if you thinkshe or he is The height of the
grass.
If the grass is less than threeinches, the sugar content is
higher.
If the grass is between threeand seven inches, it's optimal.
If it's over seven inches, itmay be going to seed with a
higher protein content, whichalso affects.
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The nutrition and the laminitis.
I know that was a lot ofinformation.
I'm going to recap.
If your horse has warm hoofs ora warm Huff.
If your horse says, neck isespecially non flexible.
Especially in the area above theWithers.
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Be suspicious of laminitis orfounder.
If your horse is standing withits front and rear legs together
where there's an.
Closer together then straightdown.
Be suspicious of laminitis.
Laminitis is like horsediabetes.
It's about sugar.
Metabolizing.
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There are minerals that affectthis.
The type of grass you feed isimportant.
That time of day you're on thepasture is important.
The length of the grass in thepasture is important.
Laminitis is horrible, horribleto deal with.
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All right.
So I'm going to talk a littlebit about.
Colic.
Horse colic and can be very,very serious.
Indications of a horse collarking are turning around and
biting at its side.
I don't mean just like anoccasional itch, but repetitive.
If you see a bunch of lick markson their side watch them for a
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while.
If a horse is rolling a lot ordoesn't look well and is laying
down for a long period of time,those can all be signs of colic.
Colic is a constriction in theintestines.
There are some over the counterremedies that can help relax
that and help.
I think most vets will write aprescription or give you.
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A Banamine paste, which is alsothe cure.
For colic.
So, if you think your horse hascolic.
It's a good idea to watch it fora while.
Get it up.
If it's laying down, put ahalter on and get that horse up.
If you can't get it up, call thevet.
Walking the horse until itpoops.
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Once you see the horse poop, youknow, that whatever constriction
has been causing that discomfortin their abdomen has released.
If you're walking a horse aroundand it's not pooping.
You can try bringing it to thetrailer.
A lot of horses will poop beforethey get in the trailer.
And so just the anticipation ofneeding to load up can stimulate
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the nervous release of a goodpoop.
And you can be more relieved.
It is always good to follow upwith your vet with a phone call.
If you can, you know, the modernautomated age has made.
Contacting vets, at least for myexperience, quite difficult.
So many options on that phoneand the buttons and getting a
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real person and that actuallygetting to the vet or emailing
and waiting three days for aresponse.
I know they're doing the bestthey can, but.
Man, I wish nobody had everinvented the answering machine.
So first aid for cuts andabrasions.
Is it, is it important to treatthem.
I don't know.
I, you know, I think there's alot of controversy about that.
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There's certainly a lot ofproducts.
On the market.
If it's a deep wound, it shoulddefinitely be cleaned out and
treated.
A lot of just the appointments.
That are antibacterial and we'llkeep flies out of a wound are
easy to use.
I found one product with sulfurand mineral oil.
It's old school.
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Can't remember the name of itoff the top of my head.
It works really well.
If your horse has an eyeinfection, don't mess around.
Call the vet.
There've been a couple ofoccasions where my horses are
now having a seasonal allergy.
Inflammation of their eyes.
And sometimes I, not that my vetrecommends this and I'm not a
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medical professional.
But I have treated it withcolloidal, silver and had some
success.
Antibiotic creams dropsointments that the vet will give
you.
The thing about AISES.
If you have a cream from beforethat has a steroid and your
horse actually has a scratch oran abrasion in their eye.
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The steroid iscounter-indicated.
So don't.
Don't think you know about.
Antibacterial.
Prescription appointments withsteroids or antibacterial
ointments without steroids, itcan be confusing.
in my mind, an eye injury orinflammation or redness in a
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horse is serious enough to callthe vet every time.
So just a little side thingabout pain with horses and
humans and something that a lotof people don't know.
Is walking in a herd.
Releases endorphins that takepain away.
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There's a couple studies inhumans with this, I myself have
experienced it multiple times.
Taking a walk with your horse.
Horses.
Something magical happens.
And.
They can make pain go away.
So it follows at least in mymind, trying to be logical.
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That if your horse is in pain.
And being out in a pasture withits buddies.
Is not going to cause damage insome way.
They're better off there thanthey are install rest again,
unless it's going to causedamage in some other way,
because the other horses willhelp with their pain.
The endorphins that happen in aherd are going to help.
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And I don't know.
Everything that that has to dowith there's so many mysteries.
Now that science is finallycatching up to one example, the
telepathy tapes.
If you have not heard about Dr.
Hennessey Powell and thetelepathy tapes, it will blow
your mind.
She is documented worldwide inisolated cases, in all parts of
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the world.
That non-verbal autisticchildren are communicating
telepathically with theircaregivers.
A lot of these tests where wethought these kids were savant
actually, is that they'rereading the answers of the
person, quizzing them.
Yeah, telekinesis.
Telepathy.
All those things are real.
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The endorphins that happenedwith the horses in the herd.
They're real.
The healing that happens betweenhorses and humans.
It's real science is catchingup.
Anyway.
That is my podcast for today.
It's been a while since Ireleased one.
I've had a couple of peopleneeding to reschedule interviews
several times.
We can look forward in thefuture too.
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Two more interviews with horseprofessionals.
Can't wait to get a glimpse intosome more training methods with
a barrel racer.
And a horse therapist who isgoing to be a guest, hopefully
next week.
All right.
Is she able again?
Thanks for listening.
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