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November 8, 2024 • 32 mins

Can we truly overcome hate with love and acceptance? Join me, Richard Ravenbrook, the pagan preacher, as we confront the polarizing forces of fear and bigotry that have gripped our society, challenging the very fabric of our shared humanity. Through a critical exploration of how fear-based programming fuels intolerance against marginalized groups, including the LGBTQ community and women, we question the authority individuals assume over others' choices and freedoms. Let's unravel the nuanced conflict between religious beliefs and personal liberties, urging a powerful shift from fear to understanding, acceptance, and education as the cornerstones of a peaceful, inclusive future.

We'll also navigate the complexities of political influence, from the subjective nature of sin to the controversial projects shaping our future under leaders like President Trump. By examining the oppressive cycles of debt and division, the conversation highlights the essential American values of freedom and individual liberty while denouncing war driven by political agendas. Together, we will explore personal growth and spiritual maturity, advocating for empathy and solidarity as remedies to hatred. This episode is a heartfelt call to dismantle learned prejudices and unite in a collective journey towards love, compassion, and a society that embraces diversity at its core.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everyone.
Welcome back to another episode.
I am Richard Ravenbrook.
Some call me the pagan preacher.
Today I want to talk about hate.
Hate in the sense of notaccepting the free will, the

(00:21):
free choice of others.
Free will, the free choice ofothers.
Hate as in the bigotry andnegative energy that fills our
country Right now, after theelection, after November 4th, I

(00:44):
see so many people afraid, somany people actually fearing for
their lives, and it saddens me.
It saddens me Because Iunderstand that many people

(01:04):
within this country, they dothings in good intentions,
meaning they believe in whatthey do and they believe that
what they're doing is rightbecause they've been programmed
to believe that it is right.

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That's all they know.
All they know is what they'vebeen taught.
You know, it's just like racismand prejudice.
Those things are taught.
They don't exist without beingprogrammed and taught such hate.

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Children don't hate each other,no matter what race, creed or
sexuality.
They play with each other, theylove each other.
They are all equal in each andevery one of their eyes, in each
and every one of their eyes.
But when we grow up, we gothrough many different paths,

(02:18):
many different places on thisjourney of life and journey of
spirituality and some of ourexperiences create what we are.
Experiences create what we are,create what we think.
The way we were raised createour traditions and what we
believe.
And the programming we receiveon things like television radio.

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You know, when media doesnothing but push out we receive
on things like television radio.
You know, when media doesnothing but push out negative
influence on a specific race anddoesn't seem to ever put out
the positive, then it puts out anegative bias, puts out a

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negative, a negative bias, andit grows and it grows and such
hate manifest and it justcontinues to grow.
But it's taught In the UnitedStates of America right now 2024

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, getting ready to go to 2025,we still can't find the way for
peace Because until we can laydown the rules of religion, we
will never see peace.
Religion cannot and will notoffer peace in this world.
We will always war against eachother.

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We will always battle eachother.
For what is the truth?
When none of us honestly knowfor a fact, 100%, without doubt,
what the complete truth is, wecan come pretty darn close.
We can dive so far into it thatwe can uncover mountains of the

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hidden mysteries Enough thatcompletes our heart and
completes and gives us enoughunderstanding to get to the
destiny that our Creator has forus, but hate still spews all
over our country.

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You know, I get on Facebook andI get on TikTok and I get on
various other social platformsand I see people in fear.
And then I see people makingfun of the people that are
honestly afraid.
And your feelings are valid.
Your feelings, no matter whatanybody says.

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They're valid.
They're real Because this is areal threat to you, that some of
the things that Project 2025have initiated, that they have
already begun to say that, yes,that is the agenda.
We all knew that these thingswill seek to do harm to the

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LGBTQ community and more.
It will do things to marriages.
It will hurt our health care.
It will do so much damage.
It will lessen the rights ofwomen.
It will remove the choices thatwomen currently have and the

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choices that others that aregoing through changes what they
have.
You have a valid reason to beupset.
You have a valid reason to fear, because these people that come
against you, they do so in goodintention.
They believe what they're doingis right, and it's hard to stop

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people like that.
The only way you can stoppeople like that is to educate
them why they're wrong, convincethem why they're wrong.
I've seen so much in the lastyear or few years, everything to
rejection of drag queens, to.

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You know, people being justdownright furious because they
see a boy with paintedfingernails or they see you know
someone and it's like why can'tyou simply let people be people
?
You know someone and it's likewhy can't you simply let people
be people?
Why can't we simply let peoplelive their lives?
You know, even your Bible, evenyour God and I'm speaking to

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Christians right now you know itsays that you know that we have
free will, that the Creatoritself will not force anyone to
walk a specific path or to feelguilty or feel.

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You know we're told to followafter the leading.
So who are the people that feelthat they can, that they have
more authority than God, that,even though God won't interfere,
you feel like you have to, thatyou can?

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Because it's not God.
It's called control.
It's called government forces,government entities to control
the people rather than offeringthe freedom.
Because they're afraid.
They're not afraid of youparticularly, but hate is caused

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from fear.
Because they're afraid that,well, even though their children
have choices, but they'reafraid that if too many choices
are laid before them, that theymight choose something other
than what their parents want forthem.
We understand, as parents, wewant the best for our kids, but

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you know, we can't always decidewhat that is, just like we.
Every generation, if you lookback, every generation has said
the generation after that wasfalling.
Maybe they were falling, maybewe aren't falling, maybe we're
growing, but these children,these young adults that are

(09:10):
coming up and turning into theleaders of today, this is going
to be their country and theyhave the right to try things
their way.
We tried things our way andthey failed.
The people before us triedthings their way and they failed

(09:34):
.
So we can't honestly say thatwe know the way to do it and the
only reason we're here isbecause people refuse to do it,
isn't true?
The evidence of that is allaround us.
You see a church practically onevery corner.
Every kind of nonprofit, everykind of social group, every kind

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of everything that someonecould possibly need is there.
Every kind of spiritualnecessity is there.
The problem is, people haveforgotten how to love.
People have forgotten how tolive a life that is where you

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don't get offended, where youdon't get offended, where you
don't feel fear and you don'tfeel intimidated by the way
someone else lives.
That we can allow our neighborsand whoever around us we can
allow them to live the life thatthey feel they want and need to

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live, that they can love whothey want to love and, even
though you may not agree witheverything that they are doing,
you still can live your lifeJust as powerful and just as
equal as you did before.
And that you can get along witheach and every one of them in

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your neighborhood.
Despite not agreeing witheverything someone does, we
don't have to agree, we don'thave to be offended.
Do you think that your god isoffended?
Your god gives people free,will you say?
Your God makes no mistakes, butthese people?

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It's not mental illness.
Perhaps there may be some to afact.
We know that love is love.
That's not a mental illness.

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Who you love is not somethingthat we necessarily can control.
How we love is something thatis different within each of us,
but we tend to want to control.
We want things to be insidethis box of normal, what we

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consider normal, and anythingoutside that we're afraid of,
because we're afraid just to letpeople be people.
Well, I don't want my childrenaround that.
But your children have choices.
And if you educate yourchildren in the way that you

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feel they should grow up andwhat they should believe, but
you also allow them the choicesto vary from that If they choose
to and I understand this iswith a lot of thought, a lot of
grace and a lot of protection.

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Obviously, we can't just letkids do whatever they want, but
we can assist them on theirjourney, you know.
And if they're feeling led tobe on a different path, if
they're feeling led and believein something entirely different,

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don't be afraid.
Nurture them, be with them.
It may be something temporary,it may be a phase on their
journey, it may not, but lovecomes in and says that you know
what?

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If you feel you need to walkthis part of this path, I'll
walk it with you.
I may not agree with you, I maynot participate on the same
things on that path, but I'll beon that path with you and I'll
support you.
And if you want to continue onthat path, I will support you to

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the end and I bet you thatperson will support you as well,
because of the wisdom of loveand the wisdom of support the
wisdom of encouragement andempowerment, where we are
allowed to grow on our own,where we are allowed to allow a

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spirit to teach us rather thanmen, where we are allowed to
explore spirituality and explorelife and all the things that
are around us Explore.
We are spirits in a physicalexploration, but we want to keep

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everybody in a box because wewant to talk about sin when in
all actuality, there is no suchthing as sin.
Sin can be different things todifferent people.
It can mean different things todifferent societies.

(15:00):
What's sin for one is not sinfor another, and a lot of times,
what we believe is sin is allin perception, how we perceive,
how we judge.
You know the one thing thatwe're not really supposed to do
at all Judge.
But we all do, don't we, youknow?

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Know, president Trump, I'm gonnago ahead and call him President
Trump.
You know, I've always believedin a lot of the things that he
has stood for in the past.
Yes, there's some things that Iabsolutely didn't like as well,
but I knew that he was a shrewdbusinessman and I knew that it
is partially what this countryneeded.

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But then there were elements ofhis upcoming presidency that I
too fear that.
I too fear that.
I too have reluctance, and thisProject 2025 is one of them.

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It cannot be allowed to beimplemented in our country,
because America is about freedomand individual liberty.
If or when someone takes yourright of choice, you, my friend,

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are not free, because if you'refree, you will have the ability
to choose for yourself, withoutcontrol and without persecution
persecution the way you willlive, the way you will look, the
way you will love and sometimeseven the way you will die.

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It's our choice.
It is our way.
That's the way it was intended.
We weren't intended to be inthis so-called society where we
have to work to eat, where wehave to work.

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We are the only species onearth that has to work for the
basic necessities.
No other creature on this earthhas to do such things, but
mankind has been put in a prisonof debt, all in the name of

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luxuries and just all thegoodies that we see around us.
Just all the goodies that wesee around us.
You know it's that.
Well, we it's.
And so many people like theywant the American dream.
Until they see, the Americandream is most often more of a
nightmare than a dream.
And don't get me wrong.
I love my country for what it'ssupposed to be, what it can be,

(17:59):
but right now, hate fills ourcountry and there's people that
are validly afraid.
And I stand with you because Istand on freedom.
I stand for equality Despiteour beliefs.

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For equality, despite Ourbeliefs, maybe being different,
we can be friends, we can walkthe mile together.
We don't have to be alike.
That's what makes this world soamazing, because we're all
different and when we don't liveour life the way we need to, we

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lose that element of ourself.
You lose that piece of yourselfthat this world needed.
We all need to be real and weneed to be free to express who
we are in that realness.
And we need to be free toexpress who we are in that
realness that we need to be ableto, without persecution and

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without fear, walk down thestreet and express who you are
by the way you dress, the wayyou look, the way you talk.
You should not have to hideanything in fear of offending
someone, because when spiritualmaturity comes in, that offense
is gone.
People don't get offended whenthey're spiritually mature.

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Even though they disagree withyou, they still love you and
they don't get offended.
They still support you on yourwalk, and that's it, because we
all are on different positionsand different paths According to

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what Spirit has to teach us andwhat we need to learn.
And we can't judge someone forwhere they are, because I
guarantee where they are iswhere they're supposed to be.
Will they stay there?
I don't know.
They probably don't know.
Look at your own life and howit's changed how you acted when

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you were young and how you actnow, what you believed 20 years
ago and what you believe today.
Things change, we change as wegrow, but the one thing that
hasn't changed in this countryis the hate, and religion is the
number one cause of such hate.

(20:39):
But the problem with that iseven in Christianity.
Your Christ didn't teach hate.
Your Christ said to love yourneighbor as you would want to be
loved yourself.
If at all possible, be at peacewith all mankind.

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But yet we gotta have that,don't we?
We've got to tell people no, wewill not accept you living that
way and we won't accept that.
And we won't accept thatbecause that's not God's will
and we're not going to do this.
And like who are we to say?
What is God's will If God is sopowerful and I'm not saying

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he's not, but if God is sopowerful or she's not, whatever
you choose there but if they areso powerful, let them intervene
.
And that's just what I meanwhen I say let spirit do the
teaching.
Just love people, help people,nurture people.

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Focus on the stick in your owneye, on your own life, your own
walk.
Don't worry about what anybodyelse is doing in this world, but
just love them and things likewars and everything else will
disappear.

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Because war is funny.
War can't exist unless you havewilling soldiers, willing to
kill, willing to take a lifethat they don't know, for
whatever reason, but just totake it.
Sometimes we feel like we havea good reason.
Sometimes it's just becausewe're told to Well, guys, that's

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not a very good reason.
You want to stop wars?
Stop fighting Now.
There's a difference indefending your homeland,
defending your country,defending your house than just
going over and killing peoplebecause the government tells you
to.
I would more they'd be willingto defend my home, defend my

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town and to defend my countryagainst those that would seek to
harm us.
But I would never, ever, lay ahand upon someone simply for
resources, simply for land orfor religious hate, simply for

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land or for religious hate.
I can live next to my brothersand sisters, whether they be
Muslim or Buddhist or Hindu orWiccan, and I can live my
brothers and my sisters, whetherthey be straight or whether
they be LGBTQ, whatever it maybe.

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I can live next to each andevery one with equality and love
, and that's what gets me somuch, is the essence of God, the
essence of spirituality.
Your own Bible says God is love,but we don't project love very
much, very often, do we?

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Because love is grace, love ismercy.
It's called not judging.
Let spirit judge.
Stop trying to learn from man,stop trying to learn from man,
stop trying to learn from you.
Know a book that was written inthird and fourth person, that's

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been translated dozens of times, that has been altered over
30,000 times, and startlistening to spirit.
Get out of the book, get out ofthe box and begin to function,
listening to spirit.
Get out of the book, get out ofthe box and begin to function
as the divine spirit that youare.

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Love those around you and letus Together Form a society that
no longer functions To Grant thewishes of the rich, but may we
grow to in an aspect that we allcan grow, that we all can

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achieve, that we all can receive, that we all can use our
particular gifts and our talents, that nobody is pushed down and
pushed to the side because theydidn't have the status quo or
the money or the whatever it maybe.
People say will they'll alwaysbe rich now, always you poor?

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No, there won't be.
We can change that.
Capitalism in itself cannottruly exist without some kind of
order, some kind of cap,because eventually capitalism
bursts, just like democracy.

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Democracy doesn't always work.
Most of the time it doesn'twork in that avenue, because
when the moral standard of thepeople changed, so did the laws.
And unfortunately that's wherewe stood here in the United
States, because we were arepublic.
A republic was about individualfreedom.
Each law was just law.

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It wasn't based on what thepeople around them as a
democracy would vote on.
You know, because many of ustoday would vote for marriage
equality, but a hundred yearsago they would never have done
that.
Democracy says that laws canchange.

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One year it can be a yes, thenext year it can be a no.
All about what the people aroundyou believe.
A republic says that you're anindividual, a creation, and you
have the right to live the waythat you choose.
You're individual liberties andit doesn't matter what your

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neighbors believes, it doesn'tmatter what your parents Want
for you or what they believe.
It's about what you you, myfriend, what you believe.
That's a republic that you aregranted and assured those rights
, despite the beliefs of another.

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The United States of America isabout spiritual liberty.
This is not a Christian nation.
It has never been a Christiannation.
It's a nation where you arefree to be a Christian, where
you are free to be anything thatyou choose, or you can choose
to be no religion at all.
But control.

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We want to control Becausewe're programmed to control.
We're programmed to teach.
We're programmed to what wehave to do.
We're programmed and programmedand programmed.
We're programmed to what wehave to do.
We're programmed and programmedand programmed.
I break that program.
Wake up my child.
Wake up my brother, my sister.
Wake up to spirit.

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Wake up to what spirit istrying to tell you Lay down the
swords, just love people.
We can compromise through manyof the different things and the
things that shouldn't be andshould be, but we can't

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compromise on freedom.
We can't compromise on liberty,because if we do, then we lose
the America that we all say isso amazing, and we go against
the very thing of spirit and Godand whatever it may be, because

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your own Bible says where thespirit of God is, there's
liberty, does it not?
And I know I'm speaking to alot of Christians because that's
what I do, even though I'm adeconstructed minister.
Spirit has me speak toChristians and to those that are
deconstructing as well, comingout of mainstream religion,

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teaching you the errors of yourways, just like they were the
error of my ways.
We've lost ourselves inreligion.
The Spirit says there's so muchmore out there.
There's truth.
There's truth out there, butyou've got to lay down those
laws, those rules there.

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But you got to lay down thoselaws, those rules, those dogmas.
You got to lay down those fourwalls and get out of that box,
get out of the laws and get intowhat you feel in your heart.
And if you feel hate, if youfeel bigotry, if you feel that
you just can't be around someonebecause of the way they live,
look deep within your heart andask yourself why?
Why do you feel that way?

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Was it a parent that taught youthat?
Was it a bad experience thattaught you that?
Was it, the media that taughtyou that, and I can guarantee
you something in your lifecreated the feeling that you now
currently have towards thatindividual or towards that group

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of individuals that hate is notnatural.
Hate is talked.
Thank you, everyone for takingthe time to listen.
May we lay down the swords ofhate in this country and may all

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those that are in fear.
May you be comforted and mayyou know that there are those
out there that will stand by youand fight with you for your
rights.
Be blessed everyone, andblessed be.
Thanks for watching.
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