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local businesses, communitypartners and various special
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stories of companies,organizations and people who are
making a difference in ourcommunity.
Today's guest on the Hub is Amyand Tony Farley of the Thrive
Wellness Clinic, located at 1821West Main Street here in
Richmond.
Amy and Tony, welcome to theHub.
Welcome.
(01:08):
Thanks, mr Evans.
Thanks for having us, I saidjust thank you so much for
joining us today.
We've known each other forseveral years now and through
our connection at church.
After learning about yourbusiness together and its center
around wellness, I was reallyexcited about the chance to
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interview you and find out abouthow the clinic evolved and
eventually leading to both ofyou opening it.
Before we go into that, I'dlike for you to just tell our
followers a little bit aboutyourself, kind of where you grew
up, your family, where you wentto college, and Amy will have
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you go first.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well, I'm from
Cinterville.
I grew up here and I went toHuntington.
It was college back then Nowit's a university and that's
actually where we met.
He kind of chased me and I fellfor it.
Then, after Huntington, I wentto Purdue and studied pharmacy.
(02:19):
I became a pharmacist.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
What was your initial
draw?
To go to Huntington Because youdidn't know.
Tony, yet.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I did.
I followed my sister.
My sister was already there.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
So I followed her
there.
I did study chemistry andbiology.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Was that your intent
early on?
That was your interest even atthat point.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Science yes.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Were you going to go
into pharmacy at that time?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
No, pharmacy never
even crossed my mind at the time
.
But when I graduated and hadthis chemistry degree and
biology degree, I was like whatam I going to do with this
Mm-hmm.
And I had spent so many yearsin a lab that I was like I need
people Instead of just being inthe lab.
So my mom actually encouragedme.
She had worked at Midtown with.
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Tom Cox until she startedhaving us kids.
So she encouraged me to go intopharmacy, right.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Awesome, Tony.
So we know you went toHuntington, but back up to where
you grew up and all that yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Well, I'm from
Southeast Kentucky, Harlan,
kentucky, and in the mountainscoal mine country.
I wouldn't know that, just totalk to you.
I know Exactly.
But I grew up there and foundmy way to Huntington.
It was a, huntington was a partof the church denomination that
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we went to in Kentucky.
So I found my way to Huntingtonand met Amy there and then I
got my bachelor's in educationalministries, towards youth
ministry, okay.
But then I had also kind ofwanted to do nursing, okay, and
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me and Amy had been marriedabout a year when I enrolled in
the nursing program at PurdueAll right, and got my bachelor's
in nursing at Purdue and thenwent on a little bit later and
got my nurse practitionerthrough Purdue, calumet, purdue
basically, and that's kind ofwhere that's at.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So what?
What drew you into the nursingprofession?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I felt like it was.
I could be the hands and feetof Christ.
I could be help other people.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And then they become
a certified nurse practitioner.
That that just kind of anextension of that.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It is yeah A little
more advanced.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So one tradition that
we have here on the, because of
my relationship with manpower,is we like to ask everybody what
their very first job was.
So, tony, we'll have you gofirst this time.
So what was you remember, thevery first job that you ever had
?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Oh okay, my very
first real job was working at
the local grocery store back inHarlan.
Okay, I was a bag boy.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Did you get the stock
shelves?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
too, I did.
I was a cashier.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Do you remember how
much you were making?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
When I started out, I
think I was making four 15 an
hour.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah, gosh, I believe
my first job was, I want to say
, through manpower.
Okay, I'll have to go in thearchives and look at that.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
That's how you did it
.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, because that's
been a few years Was programming
cell phones when we switched tothe 765 area code.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Okay, was that with
GTE or?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'm trying to
remember what cell phone company
it was, even with Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
But yeah, I remember
we used to.
I mean, we're going way back,you know.
I mean I'm older than you,obviously, but we used to work
with when it was GTE back thenand had people working there, so
maybe that might have beenthere.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, I can't
remember what company it was,
but yeah, it was when that areacode switched and we had to
reprogram all the cell phones tothat area.
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I've asked this
question of everyone and lots of
times.
Several times people have saidmanpower and I didn't even know
it.
You know, I didn't know aheadof time.
So you add to the list of thealumni.
So that's good to hear.
So let's talk of your vocationand employment journeys before
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Thrive.
So you know, because you justdidn't go into opening the
clinic.
So, amy, what were you doingleading up to before you guys
went?
You know, decided to open upthe clinic.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Well, I actually took
three years off work.
I used to be part owner of theMedi Center pharmacies.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And I helped when
they purchased Midtown so I ran
Midtown Medi Center when itswitched from Midtown
Prescription Center.
So I did that.
I worked for Medi Center forseveral years.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So Medi Center, what
did, were they?
That wasn't just a pharmacy,it's just a pharmacy.
Oh it's just called Medi Center.
Okay, I guess I'm just.
I remember Midtown Pharmacy,but I don't remember the Medi
Center part of it.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Okay.
So that's where you practicedas a pharmacist, right Okay?
And Tony, how about you?
I know it, but people don'tknow, oh yeah, so I worked
through.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
oh gosh, I worked at
Reed for a while.
I worked cardiology and ear,nose and throat and urgent care
through Reed for several years.
And then I went and worked.
I ran the employee healthclinic at Dot Foods out here in
Cambridge City for almost sevenyears.
All right, doing primary careand doing truck driver physicals
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and such, and that's what.
That's what I was doing when wedecided to do Thrive Wellness.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So has.
Was the clinic kind of a longterm goal or dream, or was it
something that kind of once yougot into your work and and just
developed or whatever did, itdid something that just kind of
came up between the two of you.
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I mean, what?
When did it kind of the ideastart?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Well, I think I want
to say it's been maybe two years
or so that he has been kind ofthrowing around the idea of
doing his own thing.
You know, in Kentucky the lawsare very different.
Nurse practitioners can be ontheir own after five years.
So he has family members whoown their own practices down
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there.
So you know that wasn't such aforeign idea to him.
So I think it just frustrationwith the current healthcare
system Finally drove him topursue it.
I mean, we discussed itprobably this time last year.
(09:43):
We were really seriouslystarting to discuss it.
So once we got the idea that wewere really going to do it, it
went pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So just I mean.
Just I mean what might be someof the frustrations in general.
I mean, we're not, I don't wantto talk about, maybe, specific.
You know institutions, but youknow the topic itself.
What do you find to be somethings that you know kind of
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give you some angst or someissue with?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Uh, maybe not just
with him, just um, lack of
freedom of choice.
It's getting kind of going thatway.
I feel like you know insurancecompanies and and governmental
restrictions on doing what youwant to do and having your own
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opinion and not, you know,having to push certain things
off on people.
You know trying to really pushagendas and it's like we're.
We want to be an agenda lessother than to help people be
well, we want to have and don'thave an agenda.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And it really is a
sick care model, not a health
care.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
And you know it's all
about getting people through
the doors quickly as possible,slapping a bandaid on things and
not fixing the problem.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Not getting to the
root cause.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Right and you address
that on your website a little
bit about your visits and timethat you'll spend with people
and in connecting.
I made some notes to go overthat, so we'll go into a little
bit more detail about yourservices in general, because
your philosophy, if I'munderstanding it right, is
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lifestyle medicine.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Right, is that right?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
And listen.
I guess just talk about that alittle bit.
I mean, what that means.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well, lifestyle
medicine is basically exactly
what it sounds like it's.
Instead of throwing appeal,instead of throwing a procedure
is something if possible.
I mean, there's cases where youthere's, there's no other way.
But let's do preventativemedicine instead of reactive
medicine, you know, let's.
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Let's take the 30 somethingyear old person and get things
tuned up in a way get them eaten, eaten healthy, doing exercise,
changing their lifestylelifestyle medicine, changing
their lifestyle early on to notnot even end up getting high
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blood pressure or diabetes, tohelp prevent those types of
things.
I class draw me.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, yeah, something
I can identify with.
So because you have, you have agreat handout at your office, I
think it's, I think it's onyour site to this there's a link
to the six pillars.
So you hit, we have.
There's whole food, plant basednutrition is one of them.
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Physical activity, stressmanagement, avoidance of risky
substances, restore ofrestorative sleep I'll get it
out and then social connection.
So I don't know if you want toelaborate on any of those.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
if you want, or they
can go to the link, but maybe
talk about some of those thatmight be passionate to you or
yeah, Well, I know it's not foreveryone, but we do advocate for
a whole food, plant predominantdiets and we have seen just
changing the diets for so manypeople has gotten rid of their
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problems, you know, fromcholesterol to diabetes.
We have counseled people, wehave given nutrition advice and
seeing people completely changed.
They no longer their blood workcomes back and they're no
longer diabetic.
So I mean that's.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So what?
What would be some of theexamples of, I guess, meals or
or stuffs, how you use plantbased nutrition to maybe replace
certain things that are dietnow that we think, oh, I can't
do without that.
Or you know, some just ideas oralternatives to certain things?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Well, you mentioned,
yeah, cholesterol.
So, first of all, most people'sissue with cholesterol is that
they're just consuming foodsthey have too much cholesterol
in it, Right?
So cutting back on those foods.
And then, as well as cuttingback, you can also add foods to
your diet that are high in omegathrees.
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That will help bind cholesterol.
So like fiber.
So we really advocate for, likethe oatmeal breakfast right with
walnuts and chia seeds, andthen fruit berries of some sort,
and we've seen that diet justchanging that for breakfast as
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significantly loweredcholesterol in our patients.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
A friend of mine that
I think that maybe he has spoke
to you, tony.
He told me about, you know,doing the oatmeal and he's much
more disciplined than I have itbecause I've been.
After he told me about it, Istarted doing adding the chia
seeds and walnuts to my oatmeal.
I don't eat it every day but Ido eat it regularly.
Right, and this mutual friendof ours.
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He said that you know they hadprescribed to him a statin.
His doctor did and he quittaking it.
And he did, you know, theoatmeal every day religiously.
And then he went back anddoctor said oh yeah, your statin
must be working.
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Your cholesterol is way down.
And he didn't tell his doctorabout.
He went taking the statin butbut anyway it was so at least in
his case it was extremelyeffective just adding that to
his diet.
I found that really interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
And the whole idea is
use letting your food be your
medicine.
The whole the, the hypocriteesquote, you know let food be that
medicine, medicine be that food.
That's the whole idea of if younourish your body, a lot of
these, a lot of these illnesses,a lot of these diseases can be
prevented.
Now, it's not always the caseEverybody, every individual, is
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different but a lot of times itcan be prevented.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Any other Things
about meals or something that
people would find interesting?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Well, this is kind of
controversial and we had talked
before about how our healthcaresystem is very far behind the
times, but it was over 30 yearsago that the research was done
that showed that people who havediabetes, if you give them a
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high fat diet versus a high carbdiet, their diabetes is worse
with a high fat diet and mostpeople associate diabetes with
high carbs.
And so if you actually cut thefat from their diet so that
their cells don't have as muchfat, then there's better
communication for insulin tobasically communicate to get the
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glucose into the cells so thatthe blood sugar isn't as high.
So that would be a diet wherewe would basically cut the fat
versus carbohydrates, actuallyincrease carbohydrates, complex
carbohydrates for somebody withdiabetes, and we have done that
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and we have seen diabetesreverse.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So what would be
complex carbs?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
So that would be
eating beans, whole grains, and
then fruits and vegetables, thewhole fruit, the whole vegetable
.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
The.
That's great.
And then I also saw on thesepillars that on your site you I
found was really cool there'sbiblical references to all of
them.
So you know, bringing in thespiritual component to it is
also part of just a wholelifestyle and a whole approach
in your life.
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So you can go to their site andyou can see that, see those
also the references that they'veattached, and we'll mention it
again.
But what is your website?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
It's thrive
wellnessclinic.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Okay, all right,
thrive wellnessclinic.
So I want to talk a little bitabout your services.
So, and I'm taking this fromthe information that you have,
you offer services for chronicdisease management, nutrition
counseling, which we've talked alittle bit about, this whole
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food plant based.
You do DOT physicals forcommercial driver's license, yes
, so school and sports physicals, acute care visits in person or
telehealth and in officelaboratory services.
And then your services areoffered, which I think this is
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really great.
You can just go to the officeright, or there can be car
visits.
So what's a car visit?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So basically, we do a
telephone screen to start with.
If they want to call and sayhey, I'd like to be seen, or if
they're sick and they want tojust stay in their car, I can
talk to them on the phone, goover their symptoms and then I
can go out.
And, if need be, I can go outand see them in their car, which
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I have done.
Okay, I'll go out to their car.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Swab them.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Swab their nose,
check them for COVID flu, you
know, strip, whatever.
But then I can go out there andgo over their medications with
them so that they can stay inthe comfort of the car because
they're feeling really bad.
And then yeah.
I can see them in the car andthen you can do telehealth with
them.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yes, probably, use
something like Zoom or whatever
to connect with them and thenconcierge medicine.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
That is a concept
that we're still kind of playing
with, but that is the wholeidea behind concierge medicine
is, let's say, for instance,you're at your job and you're
sick, but you're not sick enoughto act.
No fever, you can't miss work,you can call us and then we
could come to your place ofbusiness or even your home.
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You know, give a certain undercircumstances.
But I could come to you, do aquick exam, go over your
symptoms and then prescribesomething there so that you
don't have to miss a beat out ofyour day, uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I mean, I'm sure
there are certain things that
might be challenging about that,but I remember my mom always
tells me a story about when Iwas I had a lot of ear
infections as a toddler, as achild, and she always tells a
story about this Dr Weidermeyer,he had come and made a house
call because I was so bad andfeeling so bad and she didn't
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know what to do.
And so it's just the oldconcept of you know, make it a
house call, and that's the wholeidea behind it.
So I want to come to the clinic.
What do I need to know and howdo I go about making an
appointment or stopping by?
What's that process?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Okay, I'll talk.
Well, probably the easiestthing to do is just give us a
call and just tell us what theproblem is and we can set up an
appointment.
Whether it's so we have, wealso do IV therapy, which is
something kind of new to thisarea, and we have had questions
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from people about if I want anIV, can I just get an IV or do I
need you know to make anappointment and be seen?
We can just do IV.
So you just call us and let usknow.
You know what's going on, whatthe situation is.
So if it's chronic diseasemanagement, then we set up an
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hour appointment for the firsttime because there's a lot to go
over.
There's usually quite a history.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And we want people to
feel like they've been listened
to.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Right, and that's a
big part of what your your care
philosophy is, yes, hearingpeople what they have to say,
not rushing through theappointment.
Right.
Because I think anybody canrelate to going to it maybe not
always, but going having thatinstance where you've gone to
the doctor and there's thewaiting room room full of people
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and the pressure of justgetting people processed Right.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Heard this.
If you make an appointmentanywhere in town, it seems like
anymore it's kind of hard to getin places too.
It is Be seen the IV hydration,vitamin therapy, injection, all
that stuff.
I mean, when I came to visityou the first time just to kind
of see what was going on, youknow, I was really kind of
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interested in the IVs I'vealready had two of them already
because I've kind of I kind oflike I like the.
You know the concept.
So I did the.
You know, maybe it doesn't looklike it, but I do work out
pretty regularly and I wasgetting ready to go to this big
golf tournament last week.
So I came and did theperformance and recovery.
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It felt pretty good after that.
And then I got back from mytrip and on the airplane with
all these people hacking andcoughing and I felt like you
know, it's maybe coming downwith something you know.
So I came in and got the, whichone is that?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
The immune booster.
The immune booster, probablyour most popular one.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, and you know
I've so far I feel pretty good.
You know, I mean I'm notinstantaneously healed of
everything, but my energy levelthis morning has been pretty
good and I'm feeling good aboutso.
Hopefully it's helping to.
It's not a healing thing, butI'm sure it's supposed to kind
of curve maybe the symptoms orrecover faster or whatever.
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Tell us a little bit about that, since it is kind of popular.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Basically all of your
, your vitamins.
So it's a like.
The immune boost is a higherdose of vitamin C and zinc, and
then, excuse me, um, be complex,um, b12, magnesium and calcium,
and it just you're getting itdirectly into the bloodstream
versus going through the stomach, where you know most things are
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degraded in the stomach beforeit makes it to your bloodstream.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
So you're getting.
That's the thing about taking.
You know, taking things orallylike that is.
I mean I wonder how much ofthis your digestive?
System breaks down that youdon't get the full effect.
Is there any idea of what?
What percent of?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
quite a well.
It's different depending on thedrug and that's actually called
in pharmacy the first passeffect.
So what gets degraded before itever even gets into your blood
system.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
So is.
Is that kind of taking intoaccount of when they prescribe
certain milligrams or whateverof a drug or not?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
It is yes.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Interesting,
interesting.
Um, let's see.
Okay, so far with opening theclinic, what's encouraged you
the most and then maybe what'sbeen kind of the most
challenging thing.
So we'll go positive first.
So what's been the mostencouraging part of opening the
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clinic and what you'veexperienced?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So far, a lot of the
people that we've seen, they've
told us they said they feelencouraged, they feel empowered
because we're teaching them theknowledge to take care of
themselves, to help heal theirbodies and hopefully prevent
illness, to where they don'thave to take a medication.
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They can do things at homewithout having to take appeal to
get and be well.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Most people coming to
us are wanting to avoid the
medications, so they want to dosomething to change their life
or their circumstances so thatthey don't have to take medicine
, and we just help guide them sothat they know what to do.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I mean, you invested
a lot of years in learning your
trade, and so I don't thinkyou're a guest using certain
medications at all, I meanbecause you'll still prescribe
medications to people.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
And we do, and we
actually have a dispensary there
on site.
So we do dispense to people.
We have dispensed some bloodpressure medication for people
with very high blood pressureand we've dispensed antibiotics
and nausea medications.
So we're not against it.
It's just, you know, in mycareer in pharmacy the most I
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got to I had somebody who wastaking 32 medications and at
that point you're just treating,you're getting another
medication to treat it as a sideeffect of a medication you're
already on.
So so we're not against them,but it's just, it's overdone.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Right Like my.
I think my mom takes like ahandful of meds every day.
And I think I wonder like whatif she just stopped taking them
all?
I mean, would she even feeldifferent?
I mean, would it be she feelbetter, would she be worse?
I don't know.
I mean, I'm not giving her thatadvice, but right, and maybe
she should come see you.
But it does concern me that wejust prescribe all these meds
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and people are just taking inhand, you know, five, six, seven
pills a day, or even more.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
And it's because it's
easier to write the
prescription than to spend thetime.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
And that's a big part
of what you're wanting to do at
Thrive is spend time, educatepeople.
Educate the people.
Go over the alternatives andjust see what's best for them,
Right, Either it be a lifestylechange, or or continue on a
certain med, I'm sure or justtry to look at a broader scope
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of options.
That are good for them.
Is that fair?
Yeah, that's, that's fair.
So what's been the mostchallenging thing so far?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Definitely, I would
say, the insurance issue.
So we don't directly billinsurance because we want the
option to do the things that youknow that we want to do without
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being under basically the gripof what the insurance company is
telling us that we have to doto treat.
So, for example, if someonecame in and they did blood work
and they had high cholesterol,if we didn't put them on a
statin, the insurance companywould come after us for that.
So you know we want the optionto do what we want to do to
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treat people and give peopleother options besides the
medication.
So you know we give thereceipts and the information
people need to build their youknow, to send it to their
insurance.
But a lot of people just don'tunderstand that.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
So they can file a
claim.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
The insurance company
and I know this is kind of
early on in the bit in yourbusiness.
I mean, has there been muchsuccess in people filing and
getting coverage?
Have you heard much feedbackfrom people yet on that?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
We haven't heard much
feedback at this point in time.
Other practitioners that weknow that do the same thing have
told me that those who filetend to get about 60% back.
Okay, so that's not too badWell that's a nice percentage
more than half.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Right, yeah, so
that's awesome.
Anything else, I mean, I'm sure, when you open up well, I know
just from being in businessmyself.
I mean, we just opened up anoffice in Newcastle and just
getting the word out there istough yes.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
It's hard not to get
discouraged at the beginning.
We had several weeks when wefirst opened where there wasn't
a single patient on the schedule, and then you doubt yourself
why did we do this?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
This was you know, oh
yeah, when we opened up in
Newcastle it was like a ghosttown and I think the staff
person thought I was punishingher for being over there.
But you know, little by little,word gets out and you just got
to just things like maybe todayor just getting out on.
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How are you promoting yourservices?
Are you on social media?
I didn't check that part outyet.
We're on.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Facebook, okay, and
we have an Instagram account.
But I'm a little older so I'm alittle technologically
challenged, so I'm still working, but we're on Facebook, we have
our website and we've.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
We advertise in the
Great Deals magazine that gets
sent to everyone's houses.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I think I saw that.
I think I saw that.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
And then we also
advertise in the Amish newspaper
, which has probably been ourgreatest response.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Wow, what's
attractive.
Why would the Amish beattractive to thrive?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
They like the idea of
um health through vitamins,
minerals, supplements.
They really like the IV therapyand they they like alternative
means of healthcare and not thestandard American healthcare.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
And they have told me
numerous times they lack the
idea of not being under theinsurance, not being not having
to, not having stuff to shovedown their throats.
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Well, I on the
Instagram part.
I think I know a guy that couldhelp you with that On the other
end of the microphone.
Yeah, we'll connect after this.
Yeah yeah, kevin can help youwith that if you need some help.
Here's an easy question what'sit like working with your spouse
?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
That is not an easy
question.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Now I say that
because I, because, thanks Kevin
, because you know I work withmy wife.
Now she's part time and shemakes her own hours because the
type of work that she does, butyou know we work together and it
does well.
It doesn't hurt that we're ontotally opposite sides of the
building, but no, that my wife,that she's awesome in her
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company, what she does, I meanit's probably been an adjustment
, working together, seeing eachother.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
It has been difficult
, it's been a challenge,
especially when we spend themajority of the time in the same
office space together.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Right Five feet away.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Five feet away from
each other, and he comes at
things through the nursingperspective.
Yes.
And I look at things throughthe pharmacy perspectives that
we often clash on that, and he'smore conservative with ideas
and I'm always like, hey, let'stry this new thing.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
So but it seems like
it's working out so far.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
It is, it is.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And I.
I couldn't do it without her.
There's no way.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah, I think the
good answer.
Yeah, I think, having thepharmacy perspective and the
medic, not just even themedications but also supplements
, and I'm the researcher theperson researching everything.
Yeah, I think it works.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
It balances out
pretty well.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I always tell people
that my wife is the smartest
person that works for thecompany.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
And I mean it,
there's no thing, but else at
Ampower.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
But you know she's,
she's, she's a CPA, but she's a
great researcher and she justcomes at things in a different
way that I just don't.
So she, she helps me a lot inthat.
So that's awesome.
And then your dog your you'vehomeschooled all your kids and
your daughter comes to work withyou and she you have a little
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school room in the back.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Where she's doing her
studies and you've got great
kids.
So I think you did a good jobin that department.
Thank you Thanks, see, ifthere's.
Is there anything else that Ihaven't asked you about?
We have some questions thatyou're doing there that you
would like to share.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Well, I guess good
time to mention our up and
coming is we are getting readyto start high dose vitamin C IV
therapy, used for treatment of alot of different things, from
arthritis, you know, to immuneboosting, but it's can be used
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for cancer treatment.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Is that type of
treatment or therapy being done
in town, now that you're awareof?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Not that I'm aware of
.
When I researched it, I foundone place in Indianapolis doing
it.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
So what's the concept
behind it?
Just high dosage of vitamin C?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Yes.
So high doses of vitamin Cusually.
So you're trying to maintain acertain blood level of vitamin C
.
High doses of and again thisgoes back to this was researched
, done all the way back in 1976was when it was first started,
so over 50 years or well, Iguess close to 50 years that the
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very first trial was done.
But high dose vitamin C killstumor cells in the body.
So as long as you keep thelevels up high enough, you know,
and when that first study wasdone, afterwards they tried to
do another study and say itwasn't effective.
But they tried to use oraldoses and that just doesn't work
.
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The blood levels have to remainyeah blood levels have to be up
high enough.
So we are getting ready tostart that.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Great, and so if
someone's interested in that,
who would be a candidate?
I, obviously, someone who hascurrently been treated for
cancer.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yes, and it can be
done with current cancer
treatment or for people whodon't want to do traditional
chemotherapy or radiation.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Some people choose
not to do that.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Some people choose
not to do anything People don't
want to do it Right so they cando the vitamin C.
And it can also be done forpeople who are in remission and
want to remain in remission, inremission.
So I've seen people do it, youknow, like on a monthly basis.
Just do the high dose vitamin C, just to keep you know, because
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people who have cancer whentheir blood work is done they
are low in vitamin C compared tothe average person.
It depletes the vitamin.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
C, it depletes it, so
it can be done for people who
just want to you know.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Make sure they remain
in remission.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
It's interesting.
I mean this is no wayscientific and I'm sure there's
all kinds of factors.
But I think back to mygrandparents, my dad's parents.
They, it's ironic, they bothend up getting stomach cancer
around the same time and theyboth had surgery for it.
And my grandmother hadextensive chemotherapy for her
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stomach cancer and it justobliterated her body and it
wasn't that long after hertreatment that she had other
complications and they'repassing away.
My grandfather had a little bitof treatment but then they
wanted to do more.
He said I'm not doing it, I'mnot doing it.
And he lasted way longer thanshe did and eventually they were
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able to do it.
And eventually you know isironic he broke his hip and I
think that led to his demise.
But it was just interestingjust between those two and I'm
not saying that would be thecase, I don't want anybody to
ever say take my advice, but itwas just interesting to see how
their treatments were differentand how they both reacted.
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And but again, they were bothdifferent, whatever.
But I just don't think back tothat.
You know this was quite a fewyears ago now, but you know it's
just interesting how that allplayed out for them.
So I got a couple otherquestions on your bios.
It's a pretty interesting thingthat I wanted to talk to you,
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tony, about.
So you like spending time withyour family.
That's great.
Contino, you did an exercise.
Does that include the exercise,the wood chopping?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Wood chopping,
because you do that a lot.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I know you guys burn
a lot.
You know you use wood to heatyour home.
And then he said anythingrelated to Star Wars,
transformers and GI Joe.
So tell us when this all kindof started.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Oh, you know, from
when I was like four.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Okay, not 24, 34.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
No no, and it's
something that me and something
our sons and I can do together.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Uh-huh, yeah, we
collect collectibles, so you
have, you're into collectingthem and you have an extensive
collection, or just More than Iwould like, more than.
Yeah, it's like we're going toput all this stuff.
Are you the kind of person thatkeeps them in the original
boxes, or do you get them outand play with them?
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We open them.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I just watched a
recent episode of Seinfeld where
Jerry was dating this guy thathad a toy collection and he was
feeding her stuff like wine andturkey to get her to fall asleep
, and then he would play withher toy collection when she was
passed out.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I have not seen that
one.
Yeah, you have to watch it nowand then.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Amy, one of your
things that you mentioned was
cooking.
Yes and so you know, I, likeyou know you got me interested
in this plant-based diet becauseI'd like you know, like a lot
of people I mean, I'm sure thisis interesting You're gonna
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probably have a lot of peoplethat want to talk about diet or
losing weight as you continue tosee people.
So One of my things I love ispizza.
So what are you going to makefor me?
That's gonna get me my pizzafix, or try to get me away from
that.
I know, and it doesn't have to.
I don't have to give a pizzafor us my life.
I understand that, but what'swhat's kind of it?
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Do you have a cookingalternative?
Speaker 3 (41:09):
for pizza.
We eat pizza Probably once aweek.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, so just go
ahead.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
We are, no, we make
it.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Okay, so how do you
make your pizza?
Speaker 3 (41:19):
So I make the
homemade dough.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
I have a bread maker,
so I make it easy.
All right and then we probablyour favorite version of it is
barbecue, okay, and we make kindof like a barbecue chicken
version of it.
All right, we use barbecuesauce and then we Shred tempeh.
All right Is that a productyou've heard of before.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Maybe you've heard
about.
You know, I know what you'retalking about.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
So it's a fermented
soybean product.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
And it's good for you
because it's a fermented
product.
So we we shred it on the pizzaand it would look like it was
just kind of shredded chickenand then Onions and all kinds of
veggies mushrooms and mushroomsthat my daughter picks off and
and and then I make almondparmesan, so it's kind of like
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parmesan cheese.
But it's a parmesan cheesesubstitute, yeah they use
almonds, so it's almonds, garlicpowder, salt and Nutritional
yeast probably something else.
Okay might not have heard.
And you just blend it and itlooks like Parmesan cheese and
you sprinkle it and I put thaton top and bake it.
Okay, so that's our healthy.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
And you like it.
Yeah, no, it's quite good.
We do, and our children even eatit so One thing I do like that
I thought was healthy for methat I eat on a regular basis,
is salmon.
So that's not plant-based.
So what I mean what?
(42:55):
What some of you and I like Idon't eat it a lot but I do like
like a steak.
I probably might use steak, Idon't know six times a year or
or this.
I don't like making it myself,so it's not typically.
I go out somewhere where theyprepare it, so Replacing things
like fish and beef.
I mean, what do you do for that?
(43:15):
And I know you're not tellingit's for everybody.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, I'm saying
totally abstain, but I'm just
curious well, and you know,everybody thinks that fish is
healthy and On occasion, yeah,tony.
I will eat fish will eat fishon occasion once or twice a year
.
But even salmon, which everyonethinks is probably the
healthiest fish is, actually hasa good amount of saturated fat
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to it.
Okay, and one of the issueswith fish is the accumulation of
toxins in it, so like Metals,mercury and lead, and everything
that's in our water willaccumulate in the fat of those,
so that's why we're not big fansof the fish, and you can
actually get more omega-3sthrough Walnuts and chia seeds
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and you can from the salmon, soI do like walnuts.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
I'm Gonna be banking
on that a little bit heavier.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
So there are, which.
I've never been a big steakperson so I've never tried to
substitute for that but thereare.
People make cauliflower steaksand Mushroom steaks.
So we Eat, for example, chili.
You know we don't put groundbeef in it, but what I will do
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is I'll put quinoa in it andwhen it's cooked it looks like.
I have fooled so many peoplewith my chili with quinoa in it.
They think there's meat andit's aunt's uncles, my moms and
dads.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
They're like oh, what
kind of meat is this?
Is this deer meat?
Speaker 1 (44:49):
No, oh yeah I mean
you know to to fold the people
from Kentucky.
You know, exactly so, kevin,you're trying to do a lot of
things and wellness and, and Iknow, and so do you have any
questions for him.
You have anything you want toask about it.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
I'm not sure.
Really, I'm very intrigued inthe different IV bags we have
out there.
So we talked about you know, weknow friends that drink a lot
Alcohol and then they have ahard time rehydrating.
So tell me about like thiamineand and what that could do and
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an IV bag for somebody.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Basically it just
because.
So, when, when people, whenpeople drink alcohol, it does
dehydrate them, you know thespot.
And drinking lots of liquid, it, alcohol, will dehydrate the
body very quickly, you know youpee it out, you will.
Some people drink a little toomuch and they'll end up, you
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know, with some vomiting andstuff and they will get even
more dehydrated.
Well, iv fluid bags can andthey do rehydrate, they
replenish your fluid levels andwhen you're dehydrated it also
it depletes your vitamin levels,your vitamins and minerals.
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So the IV bags with the addedvitamins and minerals, you know,
your vitamin B 6 andelectrolytes, b12, all those
things.
It replenishes that and helpsyou to feel better.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
So we're not
advocating over indulging in
alcohol, but if you Do, someonehas Gone that, down that path
and they're just feeling awful.
They do have the hangover curefor they can come over to Thrive
and get an IV and kind of getyou back on your feet again.
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So and maybe could have adiscussion about maybe why we
shouldn't be drinking behavioryes, yes so all right.
Well, I think that coverseverything that I thought we
might talk about today.
I appreciate both of youVisiting with me today and
Hopefully we've enjoyed it.
Amy, I know you had a littlesleepless night, maybe.
(47:15):
Yes, it wasn't that bad, was it?
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Oh, in fact, I'm just
now finally starting to relax.
Oh, I told you I told you.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
so, hey, thank you so
much.
And thank you, we've got thriveclinic, I mean thrive wellness
dot clinic, correct?
and your phone number is 7650008 008, and then we'll try to
get this on the on the screen,but for those you just listening
, you'll have to get your penout and write that down.
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