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August 19, 2025 79 mins

In this episode of the Huddle Within Podcast, we dive into the experiences of Liverpool fans from Australia, reflecting on their journeys and the emotional connections they have with the club while discussing the upcoming Premier League season, as well as Liverpool transfer news!

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Chapters


00:00 Introduction to the Huddle

01:11 Personal Journeys as Liverpool Fans

04:41 Reflections on Winning the League

09:31 The Impact of New Signings

11:26 Will Alexander Isak become a red?

21:12 Other Potential New Signings

28:45 The Impact Trent Alexander-Arnold's Departure

40:16 Anticipating the New Premier League Season

48:26 Manchester United's Prospects

01:04:23 Liverpool's All-Time Best XI

01:12:05 Honoring Diego Jota

01:16:44 Closing thoughts

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Episode Transcript

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(00:00):
And you want to start with the intro go as he drinks his, as he
drinks his drink bottle post recording.
Welcome to this week's episode of The Huddle Within, where we
bring you within the huddle the time we're joined by Nathan
Campbell, Brent Wellesley, Michael Grimer, Daniel Rushy,
and Anthony Caligari. Yes, four of the biggest

(00:21):
Liverpool nuffies. I know all my mates as well.
No, but no is it? Recorded.
Yeah, yeah. Is it?
Recorded. That's going, that's going back
to class. Welcome to the Huddle Within
podcast, where we go beyond the surface to uncover the real
impact of sports on our lives, whether it's lessons of
resilience, the passion that fuels us or the stories that
connect us all. This is where the game gets

(00:43):
personal. I am Daniel, a regular sports
fan just like you, and together we'll explore what sports truly
means beyond the surface. So step right into the huddle
and let's get into it. We're here today with four of my

(01:14):
mates also happen to all be Liverpool supporters, the team
that I despise the most already due to the rivalry that they
have with Manchester United. But we're also adding the
element that I actually live with a lot of Liverpool fans,
four of them on here, plenty more outside camera familiar
face Nathan that's managed to get his face on the podcast

(01:35):
again and Anthony, who put out alegendary introduction.
Brent from the nation's capital in Canberra, who's got chopped
Internet at the moment and Mr Michael Grammar as well.
The probably least tenured Liverpool fan I know, but
nevertheless a Liverpool fan. I guess we'll start with
individually, whoever wants to start.
I don't really care how your sort of Liverpool support

(01:57):
started. When I was when I was when I was
younger, I had some family that lived in the UK and they come,
they come down for a for a visitone year and my auntie actually
got me a Liverpool jersey. That's how, that's how I started
going for Liverpool. She actually asked me, she goes
what Liverpool, what, what jersey do you want?

(02:19):
She goes Liverpool and Manchester United and I was
like, Nah, no chance. Don't get me United kit.
Then I got a Liverpool One and then started going for Liverpool
ever since did. You know anything about United
before you made that decision? Yeah, just no, I didn't like
him. There was just a instinct.
Didn't like United, went went for, went for Liverpool and been
been a huge huge fan ever since.OK, cool.

(02:41):
I'll go. You go, you go.
Yeah. So my, my dad's actually born in
a little town halfway between Liverpool and Manchester.
And then so he supported Liverpool, whereas the rest of
the family goes for menu. And then so since he supported
Liverpool, I supported Liverpool.
And then it was a few, it was quite a few rough years growing
up against the United fans. But now we've we've got our link

(03:01):
back, so it's all right. Love that long, Brent.
Yeah, it's good. Yeah.
I started following Liverpool because of my older brother
Joey. Shout out to Joe, he's yeah die
hard Liverpool fan too. Growing up he always used to
talk about Stevie J and it just made me get interested in it.

(03:25):
And in year 7 all the boys had ateam to follow and I'm like, you
know what, my older brother goesfor Liverpool so I'm going to
start going for them. They got cool colours and that
was just, yeah, the start of start of something beautiful, I
guess. Shout out to Joe, I wish she was
on the pod. Love that.
And yeah, similar to Michael, I was almost influenced by Daniel

(03:48):
back in my young days. Didn't follow soccer or football
we call it. So yeah, there was a lot of at
that time Liverpool was quite terrible and it was always
whispers in my ear to go for United.
But I definitely got played in Year 5 to follow the Reds.
And you know, there was a few years of just terrible, terrible
football. But when I went to European year

(04:08):
six, got a CVG kit and yeah, I've been a fan since.
Yeah cool story everyone. For me United fan could have
been any kit I got for the firsttime but it was my 10th birthday
and happened to get a CR7 Ronaldo kit to be a United fan
and started well. But I've been very unlucky as a
United fan. The only time I properly

(04:29):
supported it was Fergie's last year as a United fan.
The rest, obviously being a kid,you see the scores but you don't
really watch it vividly. But then since then it's just
been a shit show for us. So it's going to be interesting
to see how the conversation willgo.
Obviously you guys have won the league last season, so we're
going to start with basically that.
We had obviously Cop leaving andnow Arnie Scott's come in and

(04:52):
the team's hasn't knocked back at all.
So I guess how you guys felt about winning the league, it's
20 times, which is painful for me to say.
And yeah, you've tied the recordof most Premier League titles as
well with us. I.
Think I'll start with this one. To win the league was a bitter
sweet and you know, we've had a lot of PTSD from years past, but

(05:13):
it really looked like by December, January, we had it
wrapped up. And I guess no one wanted to say
it, but the whole time we knew we were going to win that league
and it felt good just to know itby every passing game that will
close and closer to hit the 20. So yeah, it was a good season.
It was a bittersweet because we know Clop left and where the
squad was going. He built.
He really did build it up. But yeah, Slot came in and you

(05:34):
could just see his knowledge forthe game.
It's it really did develop something beautiful.
And you know, coming this season, I can't wait to see what
he cooks up. You had some interesting words
about Slot when he came in, Sortof different to club, quite
controversial if you're talking.You've got three big Vivid Club
fans here that we love it, but you had some stern words about
Slot and how he probably changedthe team as well.

(05:55):
Yeah. I mean, I think where I was
going is I think the 10 year 4 club was coming to an end and I
think the change was needed. The teams looked like they're
always were playing on energy and by the end of the year you
could see it was mentally draining, physically draining
and that's why there was always a drop off.
So for me, it's just having slotwhich plays a different style of

(06:16):
football, more ball dominant, not having to give 110% every
single game in a different way, that is with the ball.
And it seems like as what dividends and with the players
that we have, you know, seeing how Pep Guardiola has gone
league, it just seems like the recipe for success.
So I was as much of the love copit was, it was time for him to

(06:37):
go in my opinion. And Slot coming in I think has
just been a revelation and no one really thought that Arnie
Slot was going to be the next Liverpool manager, was linked
with Amarin, there, was linked with Zabi Alonso.
But it looks like Liverpool got it right again.
Now, I mean, when a cop, when a cop was leaving, when I when I
saw the news break, it was it was actually my birthday.
I remember seeing I had family over.

(06:59):
They all left. I pull my phone out, get my
Twitter, Twitter notifications and I see that Clop's leaving
and I was I didn't know. He didn't know what to we didn't
know what to think. It was out of it was a bit of a
surprise, shook me a little bit.And I was a bit worried about
what was happening with the team, what was going to happen
with the team and who was going to come in.
And Mike Mason said we weren't expecting who no one was really

(07:21):
expecting Arnis lot to be comingin.
But he's come in and he had a hehad a big role, a big he had a
big role to fuel and he done he'd done that.
He'd done a terrific job. He brought the team together.
He brought a different style of football.
It wasn't completely different to what Klopp was doing, but it
was a bit more of a controlled, A controlled game style where it

(07:43):
wasn't as, as they say, as heavymetal as what Klopp was doing,
but it was an enjoyable style offootball.
He was getting the best out of the out of out of the players.
There was a few players that probably suffered a little bit
more from that style of play where where we're playing a
little bit more defensive, beinga little bit more composed with

(08:04):
our attack. And potentially Matt Trent was
one of the people who suffered in that in that stall of play,
which is maybe something that contributed to his to his LE to
him leaving the club. Like you really think if if cop
was still there, I don't think Trent leaves.
So it's something that could have could have contributed to

(08:24):
that and even other players. Nunez, someone that I really did
like, I know there was a lot of controversy about him, but he
was a CLOP signing and if Cop was still there, he would have
probably still been in the picture.
But slots come in now after being there for a season.
And now he's making his his signings and he's made a few
statement signings, which have been really interesting.
I think they're going to be somereally good, some really good

(08:46):
stars as well. And I'd really like to see how
this window finishes because there's still a lot more, a lot
more in in talks about what we do with a few more signings and
how we've finished this squad. But it looks like we've got a
really solid foundation for for this season.
Well, you've jumped into the next topic and that's transfer
so obviously slot and you can make an argument.

(09:08):
Obviously non Liverpool fans will always make the argument
that Klopp's team was there and he pretty much had all the
pieces together and I think thisyear will be a massive challenge
for them not. Per SE to be.
Competitive because we know thatthey're going to do that, but
now with Slots players coming in, which we're going to
obviously talk about now, this is a chance to really see how
Slot is as a coach and the recruitment and everything else

(09:29):
involved. So Michael, talk to me about
this new signings and how excited you are.
You were telling me before you've never seen Liverpool
spend like this. So yeah, give us a bit of a
rundown on it. Yeah, look, I'm definitely,
definitely excited and happy about this transfer window to
compare it to I guess our previous years.

(09:50):
This is this is something that I've never seen ever as a
Liverpool supporter and it's it's such a joy just to be able
to, I guess spend money, but spend money in a good way, in a
smart way, being able to get theright players for our club.
It's just definitely, definitelyfantastic.

(10:12):
Like the with slot coming in last season, he actually didn't
really sign anyone besides Frederic Chaser and it it just
shows with this transfer window coming in with being able to
just sign like foreign words andHugo Katika, you got firm pong

(10:35):
and you know, Milos Kurkis. It's just it's it's it's good
that we were able to spend moneyand still even be able to spend
more money Like we we we could potentially even get Izac in our
squad. I've just I've just never seen
it before and I've never seen itin previous transfers, even with
like the transfer window. When we picked up Allison, we

(10:59):
picked up Virgil Van Dyke, Thoseplayers, they weren't I'd say
like established in big clubs asopposed to the signing of like
foreign works. So yes, it's definitely, it's
definitely, it's definitely change is good.
I love it. I really hope we do get to keep,

(11:23):
yeah, seeing more signings in, you know, club.
Yeah. So that's very interesting with
what Michael's been saying. I think transfers this this
window, we're gonna be excited. Like we've never seen Liverpool
spend like this. But in in saying that too, we've
also haven't had a had sales going out like this either.
Like since probably Catania, we haven't had, we haven't had the
money coming in so. Thank God for the Catania money,

(11:45):
it is funding my dream so good. And the bank?
Have contained, we've gone, we've gone from Ricky Lambert to
possibly signing ISAC and it's fantastic.
Yeah. So the bank, the bank's full
again. So I wonder how long this money
is going to last us. But yeah, I think, I think we, I
think we'll likely see ISAC hopefully in this window.
Depends what Newcastle do. With that, do you do you need

(12:06):
Isac though? Like you look at at the GK and
how he's performing, Like he, hescored a goal in the in the
community, he scored a goal in the 1st 5 minutes.
Do you really? I know it's Isac.
I know he's a gun. Do you really want to disrupt
the form that he has at the moment?
Like well. I think I just surprised
everyone. Like, I mean, besides the
question with a comp, I'd never seen him play and he's just come

(12:29):
in and he looks unreal. But obviously, I mean, it'd be
interesting to say tactically, what with is that coming in, how
that would work, whether it would just be him upfront or
whether they would playoff each other.
I would hope that with the moneyspent on both, they would
playoff each other. Who's my like sort of thought is
it? Is it?
Can he play on the left wing? Yeah, he can play.

(12:51):
He can play from the left, left,he can play down the middle.
He can play as a two, he can play as a two in the middle as
well. So there's a lot of these
versatile, He's got a lot of different options.
And I think if is that comes through, you'd say you'd say
Ekatika play from the left. Is that plays to the middle or
even mix up the formation? Maybe when Salah's at AFCON you
see Isaac and Ekatika through the middle.

(13:12):
Sobbers lie on the right or Frimpong on the right, like as a
as a sort of and there's. There's more games than ever as
well. Like there's going to be plenty
of times to rotate the squad andkeep it fresh when like other
teams, yeah, I mean, you saw Arsenal, like with the injuries
that I had last year, those complete sort of fell apart
towards the back end there. And if we?
Yeah, and if we can just keep rotating, then everyone says fit

(13:33):
and fresh and it's good to go. And I think I still very young
as well. Like he's he's he's still got
he's only 23 years old. He's still got a lot in the tank
for him to. I mean, he might not even be a
player for now. He might bring Zacky and get him
sort of while he's in, while he's in the position he's in now
in top form, probably a top three striker in the world.

(13:54):
You're not going to turn down Isaac if you can get him if he
wants the club like he does. It's hard.
It's hard to turn him down South.
Back to what you were saying Dan.
I think he'd definitely sign in Zack if he wants you, you can't
say no, and I think he's really pushing hard to make that
transfer happen. Hopefully Newcastle stop
fumbling their transfers to get a striker in because they that's
just going round and round now. They can't even get Whisa in and

(14:16):
unless that happens, we're probably not going to get Izac.
But if Izac doesn't want to playfor Newcastle, I don't know what
they want to. I don't know what they're going
to do because you've got to playyour best player, the Most
Valuable Player in your team, refusing to play.
His values are only going to start to drop.
And yeah, it's a World Cup year,but he's Sweden's best player.
I don't think it's going to matter if he plays or not.
He's getting picked regardless. I don't think Newcastle's

(14:38):
worries financials though, giventhat they have the chic of Saudi
Arabia working for that. Like if they're going to lose 20
mil on Ishak, I don't think they're going to care.
Their priority is to bring in two strikers.
They've lost Callum Wilson as well.
I think they want to bring in two solid strikers.
And if you look at the market right now realistically, besides
as you said Whisa, who else are they going to bring in to even

(14:59):
give half the sort of load that Ishak has done?
Well, that's a struggle. They're they're in front of
financial fair play sort of they're they're pretty tight on
financial fair play too. So they actually probably need
to get rid of get rid of some players to get players in too.
So. Yeah, but they they won't do it
unless they get another structure and Cisco like Nathan
said Cisco was probably the one that they could have got that

(15:20):
fell out to us thankfully for us.
But I think I don't know whetherIsaac actually said that he
announced the transfer after they bought in Kitika before.
We're never gonna know internally that, but what struck
me was when Ishak announced thatliterally after it's a, it's a
key they signed and for you guysthat might be a good thing.
But for Newcastle, it would havebeen good for them to probably
know about that after. That way Liverpool could have

(15:42):
just went for Ishak and they could have got that replacement.
The problem, the problem is Newcastle actually, I mean, is
that told apparently the reportssay is that actually told
Newcastle last season that he that was his last year and he
was going to leave. And it's sort of like he's given
them the heads up. He's he told them well in
advance and they haven't been able to pull off a transfers and
now he's sort of suffering because he's at expense because

(16:03):
Newcastle can't pull off a signing.
So. That's it.
And apparently, apparently they promised him that they'd both
bolster the squad and improve the squad and then there just
hasn't been much of that this season.
So then that's half the reason why he wants to add as well.
Alanger in To be fair, they werelooking at bringing Alanger in
United. Project.
Winger. He was good at Nottingham
Forest, he had a great season. He was one of the top assists in

(16:24):
the season. He gave Chris Wooden most of his
goals. Imagine that with Ishak, how
many more goals they would have scored?
So I think that Alanger. He leaves and Chris Wood scores
too, so it couldn't be that important, you know what I mean?
Yeah, he's a good player, don't get me wrong.
Base, you're 60 million, That's going to be the Champions.
Exactly right. But if you're a Champions League
club, you need better signings. Let's be real.

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Elena's good, don't get me wrong.
But what else have they done? Their defence is still shambles,
you know what I mean? It's it's a coming to Liverpool
and staying in Newcastle. You know, you're going to be
fighting on all fronts at Liverpool.
Newcastle, you'll be lucky to betop 4.
And that's just the reality in Newcastle.
They just got to know their place.
The man wants to go. He's got to go.
Yeah. It's not, it's not.

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The only thing I can say is thatobviously wasn't a club new
product from there, like he obviously was using Newcastle as
a stepping stone to play for a big club, but just don't really
like the way he's kind about it and I think Newcastle holding
femme there is good. Ultimately if they don't want to
sign him, he has to end up playing anyway because you said
it's like you said, but it's a World Cup year and he still
needs to get his value up as well.
If he misses a whole year of football again, I don't think

(17:28):
Newcastle's priority is to to make money off him.
I know the Financial Fair plays there, but if there's no striker
coming in, they're not going to get rid of his suck.
I think. I think they'll keep him there.
They'll figure out a way for himto play and and albeit football
moves quickly, if he just scoresa bunch of goals and stays one
more year, I'm sure that Newcastle fans will will turn
around and appreciate him for for this season there.

(17:49):
So yeah. I think, I think the
relationship, I think the relationship's done.
There's the weekend, Newcastle fans are chanting, saying that
he's a greedy bastard or something.
So I, I can't, I, I really can'tsee him playing another game for
Newcastle like it's the, the relationship's ruined, but I
can't see that getting repaired between the teammates, the
clubs, the fans, new car. I think Newcastle really just

(18:11):
have to cut their losses. If they, if they have to pay
Anthony Gordon as a as a strikerto, to get through, to get
through the season to the next window, that's what they're
going to have to do because Isaac's not playing up the game
for. Me, we should just make a winner
this weekend. Get to Isaac.
You guys got him this week? It's it's going to be it's going
to be a very hostile it's going to be a very hostile game this
weekend. Yeah.

(18:33):
Maybe that's another reason why maybe they want to wait till
they verse us before they sell him So he can't he can't even
pay for for the for us. So there's there could be a few
reasons. I don't think that's one of
them, but I think. I think that is 1.
Of them, to be honest, I think that's a big one.
And you were saying Anthony Gordon, but the hypocrisy with
Newcastle, he literally done thesame thing saying to evident I'm
not going to play if I don't go to Newcastle and then is that

(18:53):
still in the same? And then they're vilifying it.
So it's just kind of bittersweet.
And The thing is that annoys me is yes, and you don't like the
way he's going about it. But normally saying that when
Garocco has said I'm going to break up with my girlfriend and
I'm going to Arsenal, I don't care.
But because it's Isaac, everyone's saying, oh Liverpool,
look what they're doing. You know, I don't know, maybe
it's just me. Being but the thing like he he

(19:15):
told them last season that it was the end like any he played
last season, he did everything he could for them, but they
still don't want to let him go Like it's it's how much more can
he do now? Yeah, I just think they just
need to split ways. Yeah, yeah.
Or Newcastle need to get strikers in before they do that.
They're only leveraged, they can't sell him before they get
strikers in. Even if he's not going to play,

(19:37):
I'm not. Looking as a fan because quite
frankly I couldn't give a shit whether he stays or goes because
I'm not a Newcastle fan. Obviously Liverpool will improve
but they're really good enough to begin with.
But if I'm looking at it as a club of, of Newcastle and seeing
where they want to be and, and since the buyout, their goal has
been clear, they want to be consistent.
Champions League side can't losethis side without replacing
strikers and I have a thing. In a perfect world, they would

(19:59):
want him to go and and have two strikers there and it would be
all easy and done and they wouldn't have this backlash,
They wouldn't have to deal with an unsettled or unravelled
player. But at this present moment,
unless they're given 150 with a week to go, a million to buy him
Liverpool, I don't see him leaving because of that sheer
principle in fact. And I see that if this was a
club like Renford, if this was aclub.

(20:21):
That wasn't Newcastle with theirtheir sort of finances and their
owners. I think this still gets done.
Two weeks ago, 150 million or even 110, they're taking it to
the bank and laughing. Newcastle don't want to be a
selling club, they want to play Champions League football and
they need the strikers so. I'll have to wait and see.
I still think you'll join beforethe end of the season.
I think it we it's dragged our process, but I still think

(20:42):
you'll join. Well, we have to and I and I and
I also don't, I also don't thinkwe stop at ISAC either.
I think there's I think there's at least two more signings we
make. I think Mike Gay is really high
up on the list of of potential signings in Crystal Palace.
Either either sell selling for 40 for 40 million this like this
window or he's coming. Free in the.
Season. So if if I'm Crystal Palace, I'd

(21:04):
at least rather get get something now than losing for
free. We've got Ben Doe going out for
2525 million. I think it was £25 million.
Yeah, it's a Bournemouth, Yeah. Going to Bournemouth, that's
that's massive because we, I think we're signing for 300 or
600,000 and like three seasons ago.
So that's a massive, massive profit there.

(21:25):
And do we potentially get a, a backup winger?
I would like to see us either get someone that can play from
from the left or the right, a backup wing.
I've seen us linked to Fafana, but with Kierza staying now, I
think that really helps. It looks like he's going to
stay. I think that's he's a good
addition. He can play and he can play
pretty much anywhere across those front 3.

(21:45):
And I know, I know, I'm a massive fan of him.
Brent's a massive fan of him too.
And when he scored that goal on the weekend, that was I was
tracking. An A slide on the carpet
winning. Let's.
Let's track back quickly to MarkGay.
The only thing I'll say is is that Chris Palace are in the
Conference League now. They were in the Europa League.
Obviously the financial restrictions and all that

(22:06):
business got them down to Conference League.
And the only argument I could keep for Crystal Palace not
selling him is the opportunity to win that Conference League
trophy. And they're a big player in
that, believe it or not. I know the Premier League teams
that get in there, they always make deep runs.
So it's going to be a question as to whether they keep him for
the fact that they want to push and win that Conference league

(22:27):
and then Gay can go out as a happy captain with a European
trophy and leave to Liverpool with open arms or they sell him
now and they'd be done with. They've got obviously as they
there too, that's also wanting to make a move to Tottenham.
So that's the only reason I can see Gay staying is for that
potential opportunity to win a trophy.
And I'm pretty sure they'll they'll probably make that 40

(22:47):
million they're selling for winning that title anyway,
getting qualified into, I think it's Europa League, I'm pretty
sure if they win the Conference League anyway.
So yeah, sometimes you consider that.
I think it'll happen either way.It seems like he wants the
Liverpool to join us and join the project, but it's just I
think we'll either buy him this year or he'll come on a free
next year. Yeah, either way, I think, I

(23:08):
think either way works for us. Now that we've got the the regen
Aldini signing, I think, I thinkthe defensive, the defensive
lines looking looking good now. I was a bit worried once we got
rid of Kwanzaa, we had no depth.Gomez was injured, Kanate's
injury records not the best. Virgil's getting older.
We needed we needed that depth signing him.

(23:29):
Leonie worked out well. And if we can get Mark Gay in
next season, I think that reallybolsters the backline.
There's a bit of uncertainty what Kanate is going to do.
I really, really hope he stays. He's one of my favourite players
and I think he's probably a top.He's definitely, he's not
probably, he definitely is a topfive centre back in the Premier
League And he he needs, he needsto sign, he needs to sign that

(23:52):
contract. Give me, give me, give me 5.
Give me 5. Centre back, you're not about
the. Top five in the world and five.
In the world. Of Premier League.
Premier League instead. Premier League 5 give me.
Five better centre backs than Karnataka in the Premier League.
OK, Virgil's won and he's in your team.
Luckily, Ruben Diaz is another. That's debatable.

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He can't. He can't even get a.
He can't even get a game every. Week OK anyway, all right we'll
go to even I would say and arguably saying William Saliba
and both Gabriel better than himbest defence in the league so
I've already that's already beendone Gabrielle's.
Like more. Headers.
Gabrielle scores more headers aswell.
I know it's a defensive game, but he's very solid.
That back to is very stable and they're the best defence in the
league. Reversed them just now one nil.

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They kept that that that league.So then to a better.
I would make an argument, and you guys can probably be against
it, but I can make an argument that Christian Romero is better
than him. He's won a World Cup.
He's also yeah, no way than canate.
Well, if not and then that's already 4 so and then I would
give another city centre back there to to to wipe that off and
even you could even say Gay is better than him.

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That's why they're probably going for him at the moment.
So that's probably another. And who else?
Who else do you want me to give you an?
I thought, I thought you. Were going to say the butcher
then mate. And I was about to hang up, I
think. I honestly think it would call
me bites, but I think I think Kanate is probably his book.
He's probably 1 under saliva butyou've got Virgil, you've got
saliva. Look, he can probably put one or

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two other people there but Kanata, he's got to be for me,
top five. He's he last year he he put
together really consistent season.
I know he's had his injury problems.
Last year was terrific and he had to play that role where he
defends the right side as well as the centre.
We don't play with the five in the back like some other clubs,
which makes it a bit easier whenyou're a defender.
But he plays. We play with the four in the

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back with an attacking, with attacking full backs.
He's got, he's got a lot of workto do and he's done.
He's done terrific and we won. We won the season with him being
our centre back with Virgil Van Dyke.
I don't care what you say, if Arsenal's got the best defence,
he's Arsenal's not winning the league.
Liverpool are. So you I'll take, I'll take him
over Gabriel any day. I'll take a World Cup winner,

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I'll take someone that's one of treble, I'll take the best 2
defenders in the league, I'll take Virgil for you as well and
I'll also take someone that's starting for England in in
Margate as well. That it that is better And
there's probably a lot more thatI can't remember, but he is
definitely top ten, I'll give you that.
And I'm not going to put any United defenders on there
because I'm not going to try to be biassed at all.
Right. I'm glad you know.

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I'm glad you know that. Deluded.
Yeah, and I'll you'll mention your your Italian sort of centre
back that you signed as well. Need not I remind you the last
Italian one, the kid you guys signed and what he was supposed
to be. Can you take a guess who it was?
Zach Alani. No, not Fabio Berini.
Berini. He's a striker.
Oh, what do you mean? The last time I heard this huge

(26:39):
shot, the last time I heard hypeof that, yeah, it didn't turn
out well. So.
Berini ballot and all my Ricky Lambert strike force fed
families mate. Yeah, well, didn't at all, but
look. The one, the one, the one thing
that I'll tell you is there was a, there was a lot of Italian
clubs after Leone and I, I really backed the way that
Liverpool scout, especially younger players.

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We're, we're willing to pay whatwe paid for someone that's got
very little games. We know there's a lot of
potential there and we pounce onthat.
We sold in the project and now he's here.
I, I, I mean, well, I think he'slike, I think he's like 19.
We've got a lot of, I think he'sgot a lot of potential.
He's actually 18. Sorry, but he's got a lot of
potential and I think he'll be asuperstar in the next few years

(27:22):
to come. Big.
Fives quick. He's a virtual region, really,
that's what they're hoping. Obviously there's a long way to
go, but he's got the stature if you've seen him, he's got
potential. So let's let's hope he hits.
And that's how we're gonna. Do I still, I still, I still
think I still think Mark A comeseither this season or next
season. And I reckon another, another
forward is that hopefully and another forward as well, because

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we've got to replace what's what's going out.
And we're still we're still lacking W we're still short some
players. It looks like Simicast is going
to go because we've already got Robertson and now Kirk is in
that left back, in that left back position.
I think we're to be overcrowded to have three of them there.
So I think Simicast goes and we bring, yeah, we bring, we bring
some more firepower in. Just wanted to take a moment to

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the way that you do. But without further ado, let's
get straight back into it. We did mention at the start
Anthony did and I want to hear Michael's take on it because
he's awfully quiet in the background listening to all
these unbelievable takes. It's trend and obviously he's
now trend, trend 12. I can't butcher that.
But that's how bad the nickname is for me to botch that.
You see the frustration on everyone's face when I bring up

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that name. He's obviously left on a free.
He's gone to Real Madrid. I didn't know how he went on his
first game. I'm sure you guys had tabs on
it. If he's played, yeah, if he's
playing tomorrow or even in preseason.
But yeah, Michael, starting withyou, just how you feel about the
sort of trend departure? Yeah, look, he actually did
leave with some money. It was about, I think it was

(29:12):
10,000 EUR, 10 million euros, £8.5 million.
So we did get a bit of cash fromhim.
But as a Liverpool fan, just seeing that introduction at Real
Madrid and him speaking in Spanish and he spoke it well,
I'll give him that. He did speak it well.
It hurt. It really did hurt because he

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was he, he, he, he, he lived andbreathed Liverpool.
He honestly, he was our vice captain.
He was meant to take the captainrole from Virgil Van Dyke when
Virgil Van Dyke does decide to retire, but he decided he wanted
more. He wanted to win the Bondor at
Real Madrid. He didn't believe that he could

(29:55):
win at Liverpool and he's. Not winning up there.
He isn't. He's honest.
He's not gonna win. He's not gonna.
He's. Not gonna.
I think I think he made the biggest mistake, the biggest
mistake of his career leaving Liverpool.
He was, he was a boy. It was a it was his boyhood
club. He was a Scouser.
He was in line to become the captain of Liverpool and he is

(30:16):
just he's made a big mistake. Look, I love, I love Trent.
I still, even though he's done us really dirty, I still, I'm
not, I'm not going to talk too much rubbish about him because I
still I did like him. I liked everything he's done at
Liverpool and I think he's a he's a terrific talent.
I don't think many players can cross a ball like he can or even
strike a ball like he can. But yeah, I really don't agree

(30:36):
with what he's done. I mean, look, all the best for
him, but I think he's going to get absolutely torn apart by the
Spanish media because I know Liverpool fans backed him.
I, I backed him all the time, even when he done some terrible
defending and he and he was sortof.
Lied that you finally admitted it.
It's grateful you finally. Admit it, it's actually, I feel
free not having to defend. He's defending it's it's a

(30:59):
fantastic feeling. Yeah.
That's what I was saying. That's what I was saying with
Kanata. Kanata had to defend Trent's
position and his his own position and he's done such a
good job at doing that. But look, as as as I think that
he's attackive qualities did make up for some of his
defensive woes. I don't think he was, he was
terrible defensively, but I think he really lacked that back

(31:22):
that him on the back post was nogood and he wasn't as fast as
what we needed where at least we've got some pace with rim
Pong and I really like Conor Bradley, what he brings.
I think he's a all round great, great, great fullback.
So I'm excited to see how them to go.
But yeah, I I I will see. We'll see what happens with
Trent, but I don't think he's made the right choice.
Yeah. I genuinely think he's

(31:42):
defending. It wasn't when personally, when
you look at it and you criticiseit, it wasn't even the form of
him getting sort of ripped and and rinsed by the wingers.
It was just more of his effort. That was just atrocious that the
back pose, not tracking runs andwhatnot.
Like you look at the the Champions League final when
Vinnie scored, it's just like stuff like that you think and
you question whether he really wants to defend and he has that

(32:02):
effort that to defend. And that's I think where the
criticism comes from, especiallyfrom the outside looking in.
And I see why you guys want to defend it when he's obviously
one of the best with the ball and attacking.
And as you mentioned, Anthony, his strike, his crossing is a
phenomenal. But then when you just see the
lack of effort on the defensive side, it just kind of reminds me
of like a basketball player thatjust wants to attack when your

(32:24):
job is to defend just as much asattack and if not more.
Because realistically, yes, the modern fullback is is there to
attack and whatnot, but primarily you are still a right
back and that's a defender. So that's kind of where the
criticism comes from me. I think that's also what
contributed to his move as well.Real Madrid play a style where
he's got a more advanced role. He doesn't have to defend as
much that they're playing with A5 in the back.

(32:45):
So he's got that, that flexibility where he can push,
he can push further forward. Alonso's game style suits him a
little bit more and that would have been a big a big factor in
that too. And like I said, with with slot
leaving, it changed the way thatwe we attacked with our full
backs and it probably didn't suit him as much like last year.
His numbers weren't as good as previous seasons.

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And maybe he thought that was going to be a bit of a decline
on him. So he wanted to get out to sort
of better himself. But I think it was a selfish
move. Not not obviously, he just
wanted to. I mean, he wants best, what's
best for his career. And I think at the end of the
day, all players are going to want to do that.
But yeah, that's that's that's my thoughts and more.
I'll go back to the Spanish and for someone that is, as you all
know, learning Spanish at the moment, he's 100% had the

(33:29):
Duolingo whipped up for, for a good year to, to get those words
out because especially being a Scouser where there's probably
no Spanish involved in there, he's he's had to learn and he
must have planned this for a long time.
So I think that's what frustrates people.
And I look at Nathan's reaction and I think he's got a lot to
say about this. There is a lot to say, I'll be
honest, but the best thing that I think the Liverpool did was

(33:52):
they just saw him from Paul straight away and just said
stuff You, you know what I mean?Because you know, he he was
someone that was at the club since he was what, 5 years old?
And you know how much it means to even fetch a transfer fee and
to leave for 10 mil for a play that's probably worth on the
market minimum 6080 mil. It's almost like a spin in the

(34:13):
club's face. And I don't know if he wants to
leave and it's. I think in the current market
he'd be going for like 80 to 100mil with some of the prizes.
Some other players are going hisage.
The literal, he's all. I think if he was like on A5
year, he had like a five year contract, he would be going for
a hundred, a hundred mil pretty easily I reckon in his current
market. But not a wrap back.

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But to say that, like you can't discredit going into Real
Madrid, they're pretty much the biggest club in the world.
Let's be real. They wouldn't Champions League
and they're competing with the league every year.
So you can see why he's done it.But even in saying that, I don't
think it's as bad in the end if you take away the transfer fee,
the squad is better off not having trend, running out of the

(34:56):
defence, not defending, you knowwhat I mean?
The way cop plays, they won't becontrolled through the back play
into the middle. You'll rather lose the middle in
a forward positions or it through your midfield then
you're right back out of position over the top.
And how many times did you see you just bang it right over the
top? And when they're in, So, you
know, this season having cops, players in, even Fimpong is

(35:18):
someone who can't defend. Apparently.
He can't defend. He's back there.
He's. Put the willingness to defend,
you seem. That's that's what I was saying
before, like it's like that's what I found bad about trans
defending. He's like, I look at Fimpong and
I don't see a a defender that isan an unbelievable 1V1 defender.
But I can safely say from looking him in in bio Labour

(35:39):
cuisine is that bloke is going to put 110% effort in defending.
He's got the right. And that's something that I
would credit rather than someonethat just doesn't put effort on
defence. And I think for someone that's
going to be signed there, that'swhat he's probably going to do.
He's not going to be there thinking that he's the boyhood
player. I have a bit of an ego on him.
He's going to want to work hard.And I think you're right Nath, I
think it'll be a really good replacement to have him.

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And he's a star player as well, let's not forget.
And with that too, like I think like once, once I play a ramp
past Trent, there was no chance he was catching him.
What's really good about free Pong is, yeah, OK, he gets if
someone gets past him, he's he'srapid, he'll catch them.
And it happened like in the preseason games, like someone
got past him, but he would run, he'd work his ass off, get back,
win the ball. And that's all he can ask.

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And with having the pace and makes it a lot easier to push
forward. If a long ball comes through,
you can he can get back there before it's too dangerous, which
is good too. And I don't know Frimpong
personally but he just looks like such a cool guy.
All vibes. You see him pressing and
everything. He's just always around dancing
like, he plays like. Mom and the vibes is good.
It's definitely. No joke, just him and he do.

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You'd love to be sitting next tothose guys in the chain A. 100%
imagine like a team in a room with them with them two blokes.
And even Ekateke looks real fun as well, like.
Yeah, he does, I think. I think the videos of Frimpong
and Ekateke dancing with each other and stuff like that.
And even when Frimpong scored that goal in the in the
Community Shield, and then and then Kanathe goes just goes
dancing with him in the celebration, I was I was

(37:03):
cracking up watching that. The French Connection was too
big there. I will say just to wrap off with
Trent, again, from a neutral perspective in a sense that
obviously no attachment to Trent, maybe a bit more sort of
on the softer side because him being a Liverpool player, I can
respect the idea of him making amove and going to have a new

(37:25):
challenge. Obviously being a Boyhood scout
star for his whole life, I can respect the the opportunity to
embrace the challenge and move to another country in a
different club to one of the biggest clubs, if not the
biggest club in the world. The only thing that I can retort
that is the way he moved was quite sudden and I think.

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Just. Lacked a bit of the respect that
I think Liverpool given to him in a sense that they've pretty
much developed in his whole life.
And obviously money is always going to be the thing here.
But I just really think that a transfer fee, a respectable
transfer fee, for all the effortand time and sort of opportunity
that Liverpool gave this player,should have been returned with

(38:07):
at least a transfer fee or at least something that's not when
I mean something more than obviously the 8 million that he
got. But yeah, yeah.
And it's just a thing up in the face, I think.
To add to that, I forgot to mention, but you've got Sullet
and Van Dyke, your other big players coming out saying I love
the club, I want to stay at the club for the whole year and
trend is mute for the whole year.

(38:29):
Doesn't say anything the whole year.
Like dude, if you just want to leave, just say you want to
leave. Don't hold on Everyone's he
drinks, he's. Drinking everyone he got he.
Deflects from all the criticism and at the end gets injured and
doesn't play and then he's leastlike come on man.
My mom, when he, when he scored that goal, I can't remember who

(38:49):
he scored against. And he took his top and he
celebrated. I'm like, Nah, he he's staying.
He's staying. And then it was, yeah, false
hope. I think that's that's what hurt
the most because I was so convinced he was going to stay
and then that, yeah, that's whathurt the most.
We just said like from the startthat, oh look, I'm probably
going to leave at the end of theseason.
It would have had a lot less. He celebrated with so much
passion after that goal it. It almost felt like it was going

(39:12):
to happen, yeah. Yeah, and that's why he.
Threw the top off because he wasgone.
Yeah. He wanted to kiss the budget and
showed his thing. That was it.
That was the line. Yeah, wasn't it?
Yeah. I could have been, it could have
been, we will never know. But again, he mentioned that he
wanted to obviously focus on thePremier League title, but I
think internally the club knew. So don't think the outside noise
would have really affected theirtitle run, if I'm honest.

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And the way he sort of was towards a season, he's a little
kind of bust up and complaining slot like round 4 when he got
pinned off. And then even just some of the
stuff that obviously Virgil was looking at him, a few defensive
mistakes and whatnot. He knew that he sort of was
going to leave and there was a talk there.
But it just hurts when it comes at that time and it's just like
you guys were left to dust in the end.

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But again, guys have signed so many good players as we
mentioned, and it's looking exciting.
So we'll go straight into what I'm talking about.
It's a nice clear segue and that's obviously the start of
the Premier League season. At the time of this recording,
Round 1 is pretty much concludedand.
I guess we're all excited for the Premier League to come.
August is always a good time to to lock back in and get into the

(40:15):
to the pram. And for United fans like myself,
it's it's around the February time where we just stopped
watching because the team is probably at the dumps and the
media has full grilled them and we probably had a bad January
transfer. But all joke society guys
excited for for this season. How you guys feeling the new
signings? You're obviously excited.
Obviously back to back is probably on your minds and more

(40:35):
confident than ever that you guys will do that now.
But I guess if you're not going to go back to back or if you do,
who do you think is the one teamthat will sort of give you the
most trouble that you guys all think could all be different?
And I guess about Liverpool itself, what, what are you
looking forward to for this season?
Yeah, I mean, this new season, we're super excited.
I think we've got every chance to run, run it back.

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Look, Arsenal, they were, everyone knows they were lacking
A striker. They've made, they've made the
signing of gawkers. We'll see what he looks like in
the Prem. I'm not going to judge him off
one game because that's a bit ridiculous to say.
He's going to be no good after one game.
So we'll see how that rides, rides out.
But even Zubamendi I think is a is a great signing too.
He was supposed to come to you guys last year, right?

(41:18):
Yeah, he was meant to, but then he wanted to stay.
He wanted to stay in the in the hills.
He wanted the Spanish. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it was pretty good. I was there.
It's a pretty decent. Reason for these?
People. Not the beach.
But yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, it is it is a good
signing. It is a good signing for them.
We'll see. Look, I think they're not done

(41:40):
either. I've seen a few links about them
trying to get another winger. I've seen Rodrigo come up a
couple of times too. So we'll see what happens there.
Chelsea, I think's a bit of a funny one, like sometimes
they're in some hot form and andwhen they especially when they
beat PSJ, like you go, oh, what can they do it?
But then they they come and theywithdraw this weekend against
Chris. Go go interrupt this guy with

(42:01):
with your Chelsea day. Come on that they're.
Just not that good. I mean, it's so overrated.
I don't know. They're so overrated.
Like, yeah, they've got a deep squad, yes, but you keep
recycling young good upcoming players, get rid of the good
upcoming players you got, and then get new ones.
Yeah, it's it's I. Don't know.
I don't know why the players. Keep signing.
Yeah, it's a new team every week, honestly was.

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A good signing for them. We'll see what happened, what he
turns out to be. They should have asked to be
fair. They really should.
Have that free kick. Should have counted, yeah.
That that rule, that rules that rule is ridiculous.
I don't know. I don't know why they start.
They the, the PGMOL always do this.
They go hard on something stupidat the start of the season and

(42:42):
they forget about it. Like, I don't know, I've been
off topic, but I don't know how that was not a handball against
Bournemouth when that should have literally been a straight
red for the Nile of a goal scorer scoring opportunity.
He's he literally swiped like hetried everything he could to
touch that ball that I, I lost. I lost my mind when that
happened. It's this referendum that's
probably a whole a whole nother podcast.

(43:04):
Is that when it was 22? Is that like?
Is that when it was all on the line 22 or?
No, this was that I've run at the start in the 1st 15 minutes
it was new all and he and he swipe but there's a whole.
Sentence seals whatever he says.Yeah, and we could do a whole
episode on refereeings. I'm not going to talk about
that. But then the other one.
That I'm just going to drop my plug on the referee call that
I've got, you know, not sure if I take a look at that, if you

(43:25):
want. What was that mate?
Where's your referend? The date.
I was, I was back in the day andI look, I shouldn't give him too
much shit because I know how what a shit job is in our heart.
But I mean, some of this stuff'sridiculous, especially with the
with the technology they've got.But the the other one that I
think could be could be in a hotform this year as well is, is

(43:46):
Manchester City with Holland up top.
You've got, you've got a, a really good striker that can
finish, finish chances. I think last season they were
very, very underwhelming, but they made some really good
signs. How good is Rynders on my day?
What a player. Player dude.
Oh man. Yeah, to sort it out, sort it
out. Their leggy midfield with
Gondolin bringing in grinders, now they look sort of just more

(44:09):
energetic in that midfield, whereas they were just losing in
transition every game. Yeah, I think I think KDB last
season like as as good as he wasin the past, I think last season
he was a bit of a liability. He really was not the player
that he that he wants was last season that he I think he let he
let them down without Rhodri. I have always, always said
Rhodri's the most important player in that team without,

(44:32):
without having a solid a solid 6.
It's it is very hard to to control games.
So I think he's the most crucialplayer with him missing, except
he got our mission. I think he's missing till
September. I think it was that's going to
be hopefully City drops some points until he gets back.
But I think they're going to be right up there in in the in the
title race again this year. I think it's that's right.

(44:53):
I think it's not Liverpool. The scary thing with City is the
link to Donna Roma, the link to Rodrigo.
If you get those two, then it's gonna go down to the wire.
Then different players, like youcould see Edison who's gone out.
Savino is basically similar player to Docu, so in my
opinion. So if you just get a Rodrigo who

(45:14):
can play through the middle scores, goals and big games, you
know, I can play on the wing. It's just it's a big signing.
City, City, somehow signed Rodrigo.
That would be very, that would be very scary.
If you if they if they get him, you get Mamush on the right, you
get Holland in the middle of Rigo down the left side.
We're not we're not talking about Oscar Bobby either.
Like he's pretty much he had a broken leg.
He's come out and he just lookedunreal that first game.

(45:35):
And he's almost a new signing for them as well because yeah,
he's not going to drop his spot this week.
I think he might have a chance to to be a startup for a few
more rounds as well so. Well, that's it.
And then how they've got Foden as well, like he'll eventually
find some form and break back into that team.
And then he also got the signingof Checkie as well.
Who he looks, he looks to be, who looks to be really good too.

(45:57):
Transferred bargain maybe? You know, yeah, a real wild card
there, I think. I think City, when you have Pep
as a coach and you have City's sort of way they've done like
two or three rebuilds in this sort of Pep era.
This is probably one more that Ithink he's going to go through.
I definitely think that they'll be up there as well.
And let's not forget they do have a bona fide twenty goals
per game striker in Erling Harlan and with Rynders coming

(46:20):
in injecting there and Kevin De Bruyne, obviously probably the
the greatest midfield. You can argue he's one of the
greatest midfielders of all time.
He misses at least 5 or 10 gamesa season.
And if you add in a full 38 gamerounders, if, if he's hopefully
knock on wood and doesn't seem as though he has any injury
problems in his early stages of career, plays a full season,

(46:40):
then you're getting probably thesimilar output that KDB would
have got in in 20 games. And that's not me saying that
he's better than KDB by any means, but a 38 game rounders if
he's performing like the first game and let's not jump too
early to first games. But I've seen him obviously in
AC Milan and in the Netherlands,he's done similar output.
If he's able to do that for a whole season to in contrast to

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Kevin De Bruyne's probably 28 to30 games output, then you're
getting a pretty similar sort ofreturn on on your midfield,
especially in that creative section.
Yeah. And I think like last year,
obviously City had their slump, but they'd won four Premier
Leagues in a row. Like they're at the very top.
They were bound to sort of have that form slump eventually.
And I reckon that would have just lit a fire under Pet.

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And you know, all the talk is Arsenal finally getting their
striker, Liverpool making all their signings, City quietly
went rebuild the rebuild, their midfield went under the radar
and then now I reckon they're going to come out swinging.
And don't don't forget that Auckland spent, they also spent
like 200 million million EUR last line in the January window
as well. They saw Nico Gonzalez, who
hadn't really seen anything fromby motion.

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There was AI think there was someone else too, so that was.
Pakistani centre back customer golf or something, can't get his
name. Right, I was sold or something.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, and Doug Reece bloke as
well. They've got, they've got some
fresh faces so they they are probably my #1 contender to
fight us off off the perch. So we'll see what happens.
I think we can, we can take that.

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We can take it right to him. But it's gonna, I think it's
gonna be a lot tighter than whatit was last season.
I think everyone's improved, especially the big teams, and
then even the bottom teams like United down there made some big
signings this season as well. So we'll see what happens, but I
don't think it was enough to getthem into the top the top 6.
Let's talk about us because I was gonna go to that next.

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So how do you think we're gonna go?
I've also got my things. I'll let you guys go to the
floor. Yeah, I think, I think look, you
and you and Tottenham were in the sort of same situation last
year. I think Tottenham are going to
do much better than you are thisseason.
I think they've they've made some good signings.
They've looked impressive. I do think you guys are going to
have a bad as bad as a season asyou did last season.

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I mean, if you did have a seasonlike that again, you'd probably
get relegated. So I think that's near
impossible. But I don't I don't see you as
challenging Pop 4. Maybe you might try Challenge
top 6, but you could prove me wrong.
I don't. I don't study Unite.
I don't watch them as much as I watch US, but.
I think I think you're not just going to have the same issues
that you had last year. I think you'll catch some better
teams off when they're attackingyou and especially with

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injecting and Wermo's pace and stuff in there in transition, I
reckon you'll score a lot of goals.
But as soon as you play like a Burnley and I'm trying to break
down a low block, I just don't see you guys getting past.
That's been our problem for like.
Yeah, I think it's just going tobe the same thing.
Yeah, I think it's just going tobe the same thing.
The offence is a bit of a worry,but I mean you've made good

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signings. The attacks a lot better than
what it was. Yeah, we so I.
Think it's, I think you've, I think you've made some signings
up top, but you've you've sort of neglected the rest of the
team. I think that's my worry.
I think your midfield isn't really a balance of that.
I don't think you can be playinga midfield.
It's like you'd be playing A5 inthe back and you have a midfield
2 of Casimiro and Bruno. I don't think that works well.
I think Bruno needs to play a bit more advanced and then you

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need, I think, I think Casimiro's past these past these
days, he doesn't have the legs to to be holding that role that
he does in in the midfield either.
So it's yeah, it's a bit of AI think the midfield for me that
that middle 2 is a bit of a bit of a tricky situation that you
guys haven't improved on. What I will say is that last
year we only scored 44 goals, sofor a Premier League team that's

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supposed to be at least in the top six, you'd like to think.
Obviously I'm not thinking too high.
That's atrocious and I think we needed to upgrade there and we
made the right upgrades. We brought in two Premier League
proven players and I can't remember the last time we signed
a Premier League proven player since probably the Fergie days
when we're picking up players like Ashley Young and in back

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even further, when we got players like Eric Cantona and
Wayne Rooney coming from PremierLeague teams that that's in that
first game. I'm not going to jump into
conclusions. But what I saw from Kunya is
something that I haven't seen inin 2-3 years by a player, just
someone that actually runs through the middle and and tries
to actually put pressure on on the middle of the ground.
It's it's quite, it was quite refreshing to see and I guess it

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was early stages, but having an extra 2 attacking players that
are that I said Premier League proven and and then adding a
wild card in Cesco. We're definitely going to score
goals and I think our defence gets a lot of criticism, but I
don't think it's as bad as what people say.
If you look at last year, most of our goals have come from
Anana mistakes. And if you look at the team now,

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we're not actually playing Onana.
As Ruben just said after the press conference in Arsenal, he
said he wasn't dropping Onana, he's elevating Tom Hitton and
Benedere and I mean. That didn't help.
That didn't help when he floppedand hit it into his own net last
night. Yeah, I've got a bit of a thing
on that, but I think deep down he does want to keep eye.
And I think if we upgrade in that position, whether Benadir

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decides to become a revelation. Obviously not a good star in
this game, but I can make a casethat that push on William Saliba
was was stronger than the one that they gave to Mark Gay and
they didn't call this or that goal.
So and they called one for the free kick.
But again, that's probably me just complaining about refs.
Still. I think he should have got to
that. If he if he can do better than

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what Anan has done. I think the defence is not as
bad as it was. We've got Lenny Euro who who had
a debut season last year and he's only 19 years old and he's
got the potential to be a very strong player as well and he had
a really good game yesterday. And we also have Heaven who's
young as well. Delete who, if he plays a full
sort of 38 games and doesn't getinjuries, is quite solid.

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We forget that at a time he was unbelievable at.
I actually had a few bad stints in top clubs.
But I think if he if he gets to the form that he was expected,
then he's solid too. So I don't think our defence is
too bad. I can see what you're saying
about the midfield, but when youtalk about the low block bred
and you talk about how we could struggle against teams like
Burnley, I think, and I disagreewith you and Anthony midfield.

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I think having Bruna Fernandez as the eight probably works
better for games like that wherewe can have someone that can
hopefully break the lines from that deep position.
And then it allows our attackersin Kunya and Burma to sort of
lead the line up front. And they're very creative too,
like we saw them in this game running at players, but Kunya is
also a very creative attacking player too, and let's not forget

(53:04):
about that. But again, my goal is hopefully
we finish 5th, that gives us Champions League football.
It's going to be really hard forus to get there and I think that
there is a lot of improvements we still need to make, but
definitely some good early signsand I still think we'll do
better than Tottenham. You forget that we're not going
to be playing Champions League football this year, so we're
going to have an extra midweek sort of break as well.
So that's probably it for my take on United and I'll leave

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the floor to you guys and. Can't be worse than last season
though, right? No, Well, that we're not talking
about that. So I already have myself a
brand. You can check out that as well.
The turmoil Manchester United, which I'll plug in into this as
well. But yeah, I think we'll
definitely improve. Maybe I'm more excited and
optimistic than normal being a United fan, but just from what I
saw yesterday, we were the better team so.

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So Dan, who, who is your, what'syour, what's your starting 11?
If you, if you were, if you were, if you were in charge,
what would your line up be? If if with a fully fit squad how
would you line up? I would, I'd love to get a new
keeper, but we'd have to stick with Benedict.
I don't think Annan is gonna is gonna start unless he turns it
around. But he was at big fault last
season and and I think capped itup with that.

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The goal we considered in the Europa League final, he'll
start. I'll go with Dolgu at left back
or left wing back. I'll go.
I'm at a right wing back. I think when he came on off the
bench he was electric and he's going to offer us something
positive on the right hand side.Whether that's consistent or
not, we'll have to wait and see.Let's see if he's able to sort
of do that defensive contribution.
I'm going to go Lenny Yora as the right centre back.

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I'll go delete right into the centre.
And I like what I saw from Luke Shaw, but I think he'll get
probably he'll be getting injured after three weeks.
And that's where I think someonelike Martinez is also injury
prone could come in. But even taking a shot on heaven
would be something that I'd I'd be interested to see.
But for now, I'll stick with with Luke Shaw.
I sort of disagree with you on the midfield balance between

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Casamiro and Bruno. I think I'll like it.
I think Casamiro obviously doesn't have the legs, but
you'll have better legs this season.
Given that we're not playing extra games.
I would strictly leave him for for Premier League football.
And then I'd have obviously on the left and right side, Kenya
and Wemer and then finishing up with Cesco up top and Kobe to
get some decent minutes in theretoo.

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But I think with Bruno playing as the AI, don't think Kobe is
ready to play as a starter yet. But that's someone that I want
to see being involved in the squad too.
But I'd go with that as my best 11 at the moment.
But definitely room for improvement and open to that
changing based on form. They're definitely missing top
four, that's all. You said five this year, it's

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Champions League is top five. We have to remember this like 5
gets a Champions League football.
So if we can get that, that's something that.
You might. You might get a Congress league.
That's as much as I'd give you. Honestly, if I compare Crystal
Palace there's 11 to yours. I'm back Palace.
Like, yeah, well, maybe this is recently bias, but I don't know
that. That that starting 11 is quite

(55:55):
strong, but that's basically it with them.
And if they lose as they 1st andand grey, then I don't think
they're going to be nearer. But there's someone to watch for
sure. Michael, what do you think?
Look, to be honest, I've seen itfor many seasons now that you
guys sign amazing players, you get a good squad and it just
doesn't work. It just doesn't seem like you
guys can gel. So I personally think, look,

(56:19):
prove me wrong, if you do make Champions League football this
season, that's great for United,not great for a Liverpool fan.
But yeah, I generally don't think you guys are going to make
Champions League football. I personally think it's going to
be maybe a two to three year project before you guys decide
like guys do reach top five, top6, because at the moment the top

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6 is really tight and it's the clubs that are up there.
You've got Liverpool, you've gotCity, you've got Arsenal.
You potentially have who else? You need three more.
You need two more for me. You need.
You got. Newcastle.
Newcastle as well. You've got Villa, I think, I
think even Chelsea and Stelsea, yeah.
Chelsea. Spurs, like these are the clubs
that you're competing with then.And me put like I just I don't

(57:03):
see it happening. So what's the issue then with
us? What?
What makes you I? Personally don't think that's
the club. It's it's from the cause, from
from the top. At the club.
And if we want to compare it with the United board to
Liverpool's board, FSG is just, it's just fantastic the way that
they work and it flows. It has a trinkle effect.

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And when I see United's board, it just it doesn't look the same
at all. I think, I think I think
United's problem was when they when they decided to give 10
hugs and more time and then theylet him bring in all his
coaching staff, make all the signings that he wanted.
I think that really set you guysback.
I don't think 10 Hog was the right coach, but you just kept

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holding on to him and he took too long before you let go.
Think Elmeron's going to take you guys in the right direction,
but he's got a lot of building to do on a lot of he's going to
build on a lot of the cracks that was left from previous
managers, especially 10 Hog. So a lot of your plays like
there's not much value you got left in your squad that you can
sell. So it's like you made these few
big signings now and I like, I don't know where the rest of the

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money is going to come from because what you've got now is
probably all you're going to get.
You'll fire a couple lunch ladies and get some more money
back. Yeah, maybe you've cut for one
because you could sign if you want play, but you've got you've
got no one of value that you're not that you're going to be able
to sell. That's not going to be in your
squad. You're not going to sell Kobe, I
think. That Nacho can go for 30 or 40.
I think that deal and that. That's he's probably he's

(58:28):
probably the only one, but doesn't help when he's when he's
acting the way that he does and he's so that he doesn't want to
play for United. Sancho is not going to get you
much like and this is the. Thing what Anne's trying to say
is you just bring good players and destroy them, and that's the
problem. It's not sustainable.
It's not sustainable. What happened to your night of
bringing good kids to actually nurturing them, playing them and

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building into the squad like Ganacha was supposed to be,
albeit you didn't bring him fromyouth.
He's supposed to be someone who nurtures into starting 11 and be
a starting week in, week out andhe's just spit the dummy.
Like there comes a point where if you keep making bad business
decisions, you're going to be hamstrung and not going to be
able to do anything. But at the end of the day, like

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you, Manchester United, you're always going to have money.
But some of these signings got to start paying off.
Like, yeah, it can't just be a revolving door.
I think there's a lot of attitude, there's a lot of
attitude problem at United too. And as much as a good player
Bruno is, I don't think he's theright captain for you guys.
I think he's a fantastic player,but I think as a as a captain
and trying to set an example forfor the players that having the

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club, I don't, I don't see him being the person that he's
leading by example for the younger players too.
Like especially when you see himon the pitch, like obviously we
don't know what he's like at training, but on the pitch with
his moaning and he's complainingto the Rev stuff like that.
I don't know, maybe he's going to turn a leaf this season, but
I think that really has a flawing effect to the younger
players. And it's it's a core problem
that you have. If you wanna, if you want

(59:53):
someone that if you want a club that's gonna move in the right
direction, I think that's also something you need to consider
is, is Bruno the captain for you?
But how are you gonna strip? You can't strip.
You can't strip Bruno. He's probably your best player.
It's gonna it's gonna make even even more problems.
So it's in a, it's in a really. Tight.
I can see what you're saying about obviously is complaining
and refereing, but you gotta, sometimes you gotta put yourself
in the shoes of a player and think this bloke is putting out

(01:00:16):
110% effort every single week and we can all safely say that
and he's giving it to players that are half assed terrible
attitude. We've all, we've all played
competitive sport. We know what it's like when
someone is kind of not putting up to the same standard you are.
That's what probably gets you more frustrated.
And I understand that he has to probably keep that a bit more
calm and whatnot. But when you're dealing with the

(01:00:37):
pressure of playing for one of the biggest clubs in England,
being the captain and also the fans being criticising you and
everything that's going on in that aspect, it's very hard as a
human to sort of keep your emotions intact, especially when
like you have that and I just don't really see anyone else
that could really be the captainof the club at the moment.
Your. Position is best.
You can't there's no one else that really stands out to say

(01:00:59):
he's he's the captain of our club.
Like you're in that position where you've got no one to give
it to. You can't strip him because it's
just going to probably make moreproblems than than anything.
Sorry, but I mean it doesn't it doesn't change my opinion that
he's probably not the ideal captain.
Like if you have a look at someone like Jordan Henderson,
who he, he probably wasn't, he wasn't Liverpool's best player,
but but I think he's one of the best captains that has been in

(01:01:19):
the Premier League. He he took us through some tough
times. He he took over from, from our
best captain ever, Steven Gerrard, and then took our club
to where they, to where they arenow.
He's a leader. And I don't think I think Bruno
is a good player, but he's not aleader.
And I think to get to where you need to get to, you need a
leader. And I think like for us Van
Dyke, he's a great leader. I think he's I think he was a

(01:01:40):
really good choice for for, for that captain role when when we
needed someone to become captain.
And yeah, I think that's a crucial part of the squad.
It's like he's he's pretty much the next person after the coach
that everyone's looking up to inthat in that squad.
And you need that's it starts, it starts from there.
I. Think so to play.
Devil's advocate, I reckon it's probably the hardest club to

(01:02:00):
play for though and like all those mistakes are going to be
scrutinised so much more and coming from the history of like
everything Fergie and that United team did coming into it
now it's going to be tough for any players.
Well, I think Bruno probably is the best Cap, but he is a decent
captain. He does mine and yes, but like
they have this one of leaders like you still.

(01:02:21):
Got you. Can't blame him.
You can't blame him exactly. Yeah, yeah.
I think he's our best captain. Yeah.
Go, Mike. I agree.
I totally agree. I think, I think with recent
history with United, he has beenyour best player and I.
I hate him so much, yeah. Because.
He's hate him too. Honestly.
He's just yeah, he just annoys me so much even watching him.
But I if he if I was a United fan, I would love him.

(01:02:43):
He would be my the only player that actually shows passion.
He's the only one that actually bleeds Manchester United and he
would not, he would never turn away from your club.
He treats your club with so muchrespect and that's what a
captain has to do for your club.And if you do decide, like what
answer's saying, to get a new captain, that's gonna, you're

(01:03:05):
basically changing your whole image with your squad.
I personally don't think you guys should do that.
I think you should stick with him.
I think you have a good coach, you have a good captain.
You just need to change the things that are.
Yeah, you're the squad around. It needs to be gelling a lot
better. And that does take time.
It takes years. We're doing, we're doing it now.

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We're getting rid of all the badflop like Rashford's online,
Anthony's out the door. Ganacho and Sancho are not even
training near the club and I'm pretty sure he's not there
anymore. Not that he was a cancer or
whatnot, but he just, he's not resigned.
You've got Christian Ericsson, Idon't think he's there anymore.
Like, yes, some of those playersobviously are not the attitude
problems, but the first three that I mentioned, probably not

(01:03:48):
Anthony, but definitely Sancho, Garnacho, Rashford, they're at
the door, they're gone. So that's already a core of the
group that's I think were internally the problem at the
club. And then you've got the players
that probably just went simply up to it at the door too.
So I think Amarin. I think you're moving.
I think you're moving in the right direction and I mean your
performance last night, like yougave Arsenal good crack and

(01:04:10):
probably arguably should have won that game. 20 definitely
you're. Moving in the right direction,
as much as I hate to say it. Yeah, it's crazy though that
we're talking about. We still lost the game, but
we're talking like as if it was a revelation.
That's really how bad that last season was.
But I think I'll I'll wrap up the United tour because we can
go on forever. This is a a Liverpool podcast.

(01:04:30):
And I guess the way we'll finishthis up is giving the latter
predictions for both or for Liverpool.
And then also we're going to work together or you 4 are going
to work together in creating Liverpool's greatest starting
11. And he's going to have to do it
together as Nathan sort of fixeshis camera.
Brent's sort of vertically horizontal.

(01:04:52):
We'll try and make this as smooth as as smooth as possible.
And yeah. Is this for active players or is
this just in our history? Daniel, we'll go from 2008 when
you guys started support. I'm joking.
Just the whole. Yeah, history, history, History
of the, we'll say from when we're born, from when we're
born. Yeah, from SO 1998, that's

(01:05:12):
perfect Rule 1998, you guys are 90 nines, but 1998 we'll go and
we'll start off. I think, I think even though
Pepper Reino is one of my one ofmy favourite favourite ones, I
think, I think Allison has slapped himself in there as a.
Starting call paper. I thought it's sending the best
pink I would have. He's got time before we get to
you. So Allison's the first one.
He's I will be the deciding vote.
So if you go 2. 2 The Alison thedecides.

(01:05:34):
That's got to be unanimous. OK, then.
The back's definitely Van Dyke has won.
Yeah, I, I agree, probably got Carriger.
Yeah, I mean, Carriger's up there.
Who else can I say? I've seen a lot of terrible but
standard business I I reckon. It sounds crazy, but Matip

(01:05:55):
actually. Sounds crazy, but he was crazy.
The twisting fucker's head there.
He likes Matip. I know he's a big fan.
I do, I do like Matip. I wouldn't.
I wouldn't put him in an old time sword.
But I would I'm happy to go withKaraga Hard Cook.
Yeah, we'll go with Karaga. We'll go, yeah.
All right, so Karaga, Virgil andAllison, which is I?
Think this is the full backs that they're going to be.
The full backs are going to be atough one.

(01:06:17):
Yeah, we'll start with left. Hand.
We'll look, we'll look. Trent has to be mentioned.
We'll go left back first. We'll keep right back for later.
Make some more fun right up the back 4.
Go left back first. Robert.
Well, Robert Grey, say, who elseis there?
Jazz Enrique. I think, I think it's, I think
Robertson, like especially with what he's done, he's definitely

(01:06:38):
up there for me with the amount of gold contributions that he's
had in his, in his career at Liverpool.
I think he's past his time now, but I think in his in his day,
he was he was right up there. Just a touch of Robbo.
I think he's gets a bit of sticks unfairly sometimes a bit
of a scapegoat. I think last season he wasn't
that good and he'd done a few errors, but he's not as bad as

(01:07:00):
everyone thinks. No, I, I I agree now 100.
Percent. I reckon he cops that a lot more
than he should. Like he does some silly things
don't get me wrong, but you can't deny he's the type of
player probably United of cryingout for the last 10 years.
Someone that up and down gives ashit.
Like when he was giving bantering Messi that was the
best. Like you need players like that.

(01:07:20):
You need 2 votes, 2 votes for Robbo.
Yeah, I got Robbo. Yeah, I'll go.
Yeah, I'll go Robbo. Robbo right back.
Can we can we take over here? Yeah, let's take away the
because. Otter, Bradley.
Otter, Bradley. As as much as though from the

(01:07:40):
70th minute onwards I. Think put Trent.
There. So we go, Trent.
Unanimously, I suppose. Yeah, you can't.
Yeah, he was unreal. Yeah, he revolutionised the his
position, so you can't not mention him.
We'll go. 433 because I want to just stick to Liverpool's
formation. I was going to do 442.

(01:08:03):
We'll we'll add a, we'll add an extra striker just to make it on
the bench as it has to make it interesting.
But we'll go 433 and we'll startwith, yeah, just a midfielder.
I guess you guys can, we'll keepit position, not position
interesting. We'll push it straight away,
Stephen Gerald straight away. Yeah, Stevie G's in there all
right. Who's Who's the future?

(01:08:24):
Shout Cantino. Cantino definitely is a shout.
Who? Continue.
I don't, I, I don't know. I think the midfield's too
tough. Yeah, it is.
It's. Hard to really touch a midfield.
You could put Katani on the left.
Yeah, but a lot of left. I mean, if I've got money, I

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think he Yeah, I can't lie. I don't know who who.
Also, who else goes in The? Who else goes in the midfield do
you put? Will I be Alonso?
He should be Alonso, yeah. He was class.
I think Alonso. Alonso.
Would go in. Yeah, we need another cinnamon.
Can't say from being here, can we?
Have you finished the Alonzo? Sorry, I've been in Alonzo.

(01:09:06):
Yeah, I think a lot of those. So Alonzo.
With Gerard Alonzo, yeah. With Gerard, yeah.
OK, Yep. So one more.
We just go like, I mean. Anderson should be mentioned.
I think, I think, I think we have to go.
We just go to enemy field because I've got, I've got this.
The forward line's gonna be the forward line's tough.
We'll go. We'll go to 442.

(01:09:27):
We'll go as a left. We'll go left. 424424 we're.
Gonna have to go 424 OK. 424 Go to the little four way. 424 So
go to the left wing. Money.
Yeah, I mean it is. It is hard to go past money.
Yeah, totally. What a play.
Any objections? He's agreeing.
I'll agree. My name's David, I think.
I think for me, I think for me, my front too, I mean, and it's,

(01:09:49):
it's very different. Well, we're not there yet, mate.
Well, you're going to slow down a bit.
I mean, so you want to just skipright wing and move on to the
strike? Because I think you'll be on.
The right wing, yeah. The the guy is OK, let's just is
he the greatest, the greatest Liverpool player of all time?
Are we going to say that? He's going to the ball.
Adore, Daniel. I, I, I would say he's the
greatest right winger in the Premier League ever.

(01:10:09):
OK, he. Is Liverpool, Is he your?
Is he? It's him and Gerard, obviously
at the two who takes the top. But still got Gerard.
I mean, that's probably a bit ofnostalgia bias in there, but.
Yeah, just. Coming up as a kid watching
Gerard, it was unreal. It's.
Different. It's different because he came
from the youth and he built up and he was everything and the

(01:10:30):
club was shocked. That's why it's a bit easier to
say that that Sal was the best right winger in the Premier
League history. I really feel that if Gerard was
just the one of the teams that we had the last few years, he
would have been crazy. He just never had that some of
the squads. But I think you look at the
players, it was shocking. You look at the players that
were around Gerard and it was wewere in the pits and it was just
him. Charlie Adam J Spearing.

(01:10:52):
Come on man. Can we bring, can you bring
those tyres back? So we've got, we've got Sala,
we've got Sala on the right wing.
My my front too, I would say andpick.
One that pick the first one. No.
Well, it's going to be stiff because Bobby misses out on
mine. Mine is Suarez and Torres.
Suarez. Bobby for me, I think.

(01:11:14):
It's different. Suarez is definitely.
I. Think.
I think it's yeah. So we'll lock in Suarez as the
one shot that and then you guys can argue about look me.
First thing Bobby, he's stiff for Bobby to miss, but I think
me growing up watching watching watching Gerard and Torres,
Torres was a was a was a crazy, crazy player I.

(01:11:36):
Do I do I do back that but Torres made 10 year old May cry
and I will never forgive him forthat when he went to Chelsea
and. We take that Chelsea away.
Are we, are we going Tutu or we're taking Bobby in there?
I would go Bobby personally. I'm happy.
I'm happy to put Bobby. We can put Torres on the bench.
Well, if it helps and if it helps and I would have chose

(01:11:58):
Torres and Bobby, but it's not me involved.
I didn't get to my decision, so Bobby gets the last.
Spot watch Bobby Firmino goals and goals and assistant.
He's a truly a joy to. He was, he was such, he was such
a selfless player and Mano and Salah don't do what they do
without Bobby doing what he doesso.
Bobby didn't even see the goals,10 of them.

(01:12:19):
And the 15 of them he wasn't. Yeah, he wasn't looking at him.
He was, he was, he was a fantastic player.
He had so much class about him. Look for the for the bench.
We haven't mentioned him and I and I think he definitely does
need to be mentioned in. It so honourable mention.
Honourable mention. Honourable mention.
We'll give a couple. Got some time?

(01:12:40):
Definitely, definitely Diego Jota.
He he definitely has mentioned for our forward line.
He yeah, it's it was very tough to hear the news.
I got the message on my phone and honestly was just shocked.
Thanks for bringing that up. Yeah, I didn't want to put a bad

(01:13:02):
sound to the pot. That's great that Yeah, we've
got to mention this. Yeah, I feel like we do need to
mention it if it's towards the end.
May he rest his peace, him and his brother as well.
It's just terrible to hear. Obviously what a player, but he
looked like a fantastic guy. Just send all the love that's
come out. He just looks like such a joy to
be around so. Yeah, it's not going to be the

(01:13:23):
same when FC 26 comes out and they do the release and Jotters,
they're going around showing everyone what their player
ratings are. That was always my favourite.
Me too. When FIFA Cup EAFC comes out,
Jotter goes around getting everyone to guess their their
stats and stuff. That was always good fun.
Everyone always had a good laughand he was he brang a lot of joy

(01:13:44):
to the club. So it is really, really horrible
and sad that someone like that passed at such a young age and
such a tragedy too. But I think that's that's life.
You never know what's, you neverknow what's around the corner.
You just got to really make the most of it.
Yeah, it's, it's crazy that, yeah, things like that can
happen. Like you don't ever expect that
to happen. And, and it does.

(01:14:05):
It's, it's just sad. And I really think that that's
going to be a huge motivation for the team.
I think that really is going to bring the team close together.
And yeah, it's going to be hard,but I think that's going to be
everything they do this season is going to be for Dota.
So that really, I think especially the players, the
existing players that were thereand that were made with him,

(01:14:26):
there was a they were pretty tight bunch.
I think they're going to want todo everything they can to push
through. And especially like when you're
down, when you're when you're drawing in the 90th minute and
you need that like goal, that's going to be that extra, that
extra gear that kicks in when weneed that goal.
They're going to be doing it forhim.
Sure, I love, I love the specialtouch and just this crazy how
world works and how things work in fate and I give it to God for

(01:14:48):
this. But when three points scored in
that 20th minute in the in the Community Shield, it was was
quite simply just amazing as well.
And it was just such a good touch to to obviously that was
the first game sort of competitively for Liverpool.
We felt unfortunately Diego Giada and just to see even as a
neutral Frimpong get the goal there in what was a an amazing

(01:15:09):
goal and probably a bit lucky, but that's how it was meant to
be because there was meant to bea goal on the 20th minute that
day. And yeah, just just so sad.
Like obviously Bruno's a United captain and and Portuguese
national teammate was was very sad to hear the news as well.
So this obviously effects Liverpool as well, but it also
hits deep on on the football world and Portugal as well and.

(01:15:31):
I think everyone, everyone was touched by it.
Like you saw plays in the NRL giving tributes, players in the
AFL giving tributes, like sportsacross the world.
It sort of impacted everyone andit's been and then you say still
there's over the weekend, everyone honouring him before
the game and everything like that.
It's really good to say and sortof did unionise everyone.
Yeah, it's definitely a reminderthat life is short and yeah,

(01:15:54):
when your time is up, your time is up no matter who you are.
And that's I think the scary part because you know when
you're someone you idolise or someone that you think is got
access to money and everything, when your time is up is can't
save you. And that's probably what's the
most touching or the hardest part to get around.
But yeah, it's difficult one for.

(01:16:15):
Sure. Well, maybe he he rest in peace
and yeah, hopefully for your sake that that gives you guys
that that motivation and that family obviously can go through
that tough time and football hopefully doesn't forget in me
then he'll always be remembered for being a good person as usual
mentioned. And for me, seeing in the
outside looking in an unbelievable player to a quality

(01:16:38):
a quality finisher as well and someone that really helped and
contributed to to Liverpool's success.
But yeah, on a on a sad note, but probably the best way to end
it. He gets an honourable mention
into into this into this starting 11th for sure.
So great pick up Marco and a great touch to to end the pod
And thank you guys for for joining in once again.

(01:16:59):
I know especially Anthony, he's got a he's got a tight schedule.
He took up an extra 30 minutes of his wonderful time to to get
on and talk all things Liverpooland Brent that's come and and
taken his podcast from the nation's capital, albeit we've
botched the Internet, as mentioned at the start, came in
as well. And then to Nathan and Markel 2,
who Nathan again gets on anotherpod three weeks in a row.

(01:17:21):
That's unbelievable. He might be a he might be a host
soon as well the way he's going.But yeah, thanks guys for
jumping on. I would love to say good luck
for the season, but you know, that's not going to come from
the heart. But again, for your sake, the
prem's back, which is good. And yeah, we'll have to wait and
see how the season goes. It's exciting.
And yeah, another season. Thanks for having us, Stan.

(01:17:45):
Thanks for having. US, Dan.
Nice. All right, that will include it
guys. Happy to feel.
Happy to feel. So that's a wrap for this week's
episode of The Huddle Within podcast.
I appreciate you for tuning in and being part of this community
where we go beyond the game and into what really matters.
If this episode resonated with you, make sure to subscribe,

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leave a review, and share it with someone who sees sports
just the way that we do. And hey, I'd love to hear from
you. Connect with me on my social
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even be part of a future episode.
Until next time, keep that passion alive, stay in the
huddle, and remember it's alwaysdeeper than the game.
Cheers. Phone storage and then was

(01:18:37):
trying to desperately delete videos off my phone.
Oh. My days I believe I can get you.
In and then my camera came back and it was like the wrong way
round and it was. Fuck, but I was.
Telling you to to freaking change your your angle.
But I was. He's gonna be, he's gonna be a
tough. Hit.
I was trying to change it. It wouldn't.

(01:18:57):
Work. No, it wouldn't it.
Only just swapped it was stuck portrait.
He was stuck portrait in the homeless.
Landscape. It's hilarious.
Oh, you're gonna make me put some hard work in the lab there,
but yeah.
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