August 26, 2025 • 59 mins
In this episode of the Huddle Within Podcast, We have four passionate Collingwood fans including myself on the pod, diving deep into the Collingwood Football Club's journey, reflecting on memorable grand finals, the current season's ups and downs, and the promising future of players like Nick Daicos. We discuss the keys to winning the 17th premiership and share our predictions for the upcoming finals, emphasizing the importance of bold play and team connection.
Check out Mazzacuts below: mazzacuts.setmore.comhttps://www.instagram.com/mazzacuts_/?hl=en
Also be sure to check out Stairworx:
https://www.instagram.com/stairworx_/?hl=en
🎧 Tune in, subscribe, and join the conversation.
Instagram
TikTok
YouTube
X
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Team Support Stories
03:26 Memorable Grand Final Experiences
08:09 2023 Grand Final Victory Reflections
11:07 Season Review and Current Form
17:06 Finals Preparation and Team Dynamics
29:03 Discussion on Key Players and Future Prospects
31:25 Brownlow Medal Contenders
34:40 The Impact of Nick Daicos
38:05 Jamie Elliott's Resurgence
43:25 Tim Membrey's Role in the Forward Line
46:26 Ned Long's Future at Collingwood
51:27 Keys to Winning the 17th Premiership
58:15 Final Thoughts and Predictions
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:00):
No, you go. No, I will keep a straight face.
Is that all right? Can you, I will you?
Fuck. Welcome to the Huddle Within
podcast, where we go beyond the surface to uncover the real
impact of sports on our lives. Whether it's lessons of
resilience, the passion that fuels us, or the stories that
connect us all, this is where the game gets personal.
I am Daniel, a regular sports fan just like you, and together
(00:23):
we'll explore what sports truly means beyond the surface.
So step right into The Huddle and let's get into it.
(00:46):
What is going on everybody? And welcome to another episode
of The Huddle Within podcast. Last week we saw 4 Liverpool
NAFI fans come onto the pod and discuss all things Liverpool
ahead of the Premier League season.
And this week I've decided to bring on a few Collingwood
Nafis, including myself as I am obviously a Collingwood
(01:07):
supporter talking all things postseason and finals footy.
But before we get into all that,I'm going to welcome everyone on
the pod. Obviously you guys know Nathan
Campbell 4th podcast in a row and a pie span, which he
actually did choose a good team for once.
And we've also got Mr Jake Kleinand also Adrian Mozzarella.
Both have businesses. So you can shout out your your
(01:29):
businesses here on the pod as well once we get introductions.
But Nathan, let's start with youand your Collingwood journey.
For this one, I've been a lifelong I'm calling a fan.
When I was born pretty much had a colony being put on me, not
organised by my parents, the people at the the ward and I
actually had family that went for him too.
(01:50):
So it just was fitting and gone for him ever since.
And I think the highlight was definitely that grand final.
Win 23 went to the final for birthday gift and honestly, it
was just just amazing. As probably every column
supporter, you don't get a choice.
So like knife, I was yeah, at the hospital for calling the
(02:12):
scarf and veiny and doesn't matter from the bottom of the
ladder on top of the ladder. I didn't get it didn't get a
size so. Yeah.
I've been a lifelong corner supporter.
Good choice, but you'd think nowlooking forward, do you reckon?
No, that was great choice. Like, like powerhouse club.
(02:34):
Yeah, that's the best club in the world, mate.
Yeah, I'm pretty similar to the other lads.
I was a member since birth and pretty much just got forced into
it, which definitely wouldn't change it for anything because
far out I could not go for a Carlton or a Essendon, that's
for sure. But yeah, thank God it worked
(02:57):
out and I'm a Price fan for life.
Yeah, my story isn't that's similar, but I would say it
started when I was in in high inprimary school.
Shout out to James Borg if you're listening.
He got me onto the Pies. But it was also a coincidence
that my my dad supported them aswell.
And he pulled up to Oz kick oncewith me wearing a Collingwood
jersey and was was pretty proud and found out that Campbell was
(03:18):
a supplier as well. Obviously met him in primary
school too. So I just kind of went away with
that. And yeah, what a choice it's
been. And I can safely say from all
the teams I've supported in all sports, I think this one would
be the number one team because of the fact that obviously they
played in Australia. It's the local sport.
And it's something that I think I grew up with AFL being the
(03:39):
first sport I got into and also the first team that I sort of
supported. So yeah, lots of memories from
there. So I guess Speaking of memories,
Campbell touched up on the 23 grand final we'll start with
because in our lifetime we've won two.
I'm pretty sure everyone here has seen 2 grand finals in their
lifetime. We'll start with 2010's
experience and what you guys felt after.
(04:00):
For me, I can start. I I actually ran naked around
the house when we won our first grand final.
Quite embarrassing moment. But at the time we were just
full of adrenaline. Being a 12 year old kid.
We found no hair on my balls, but just running around the my
dad's house. After winning that after the
first time we drew obviously andwe got back the replay and, and
(04:21):
managed to just blow them out the park.
So yeah, it was a great moment for me in 2010.
But yeah, starting with any of you guys, what would be, if you
remember the time in 2010, your best kept memory, I think Agent
Star, because you're probably the youngest of us, to be
honest. I was young man, I was, I was
actually on a family holiday at like Hamilton Island or
something like that. And I had no choice but to go on
(04:43):
this holiday because I was so young.
And I remember getting on the plane as the the game was
starting and by the time I got off the plane and whatnot and
got home, the game was finished.It was a draw.
And I was like, well, I was so confused at the time.
What the fuck happens when it's a draw?
(05:03):
No idea. And then luckily got to watch it
the next week because I was backin back home.
And honestly one of the best days of my life.
But I reckon 23 was better than 20/20/10.
And I'm sure we'll get into the 23 later.
But yeah, it was a good time to be alive, that's for sure.
(05:27):
A bit like yours as not so much diff different, but I it was
actually my birthday for the thefirst final that we played in
2010. So I had all the family over and
we're just copying it because everyone thought we were going
to lose and the way the game wasgoing, if you added on an extra
couple of minutes, we probably would have.
And going into that final, in myopinion, we'll probably the
(05:49):
second best team going into the final.
And I wasn't too confident because that St.
Kilda team was full of stars. And, you know, we got the draw
and I was like you, like you said, I, I don't know what the
fuck happens. I was like, what's going on?
How can you draw final? You know what I mean?
So yeah, we've replayed it. And I guess the core memory is
when Shaw comes out the back outof nowhere, stops the goal.
(06:14):
And that was that was just, everything was up since then.
And it's just like we knew we'regoing to win.
It was just, it was just amazingand that was the core memory
that I have from that day. I'll circle back back to the the
first moment you said I I still can't fathom what Stephen Mill
was doing in that moment. I'm so glad he didn't get the
ball and just take it for a goal.
And we opted for a rush behind and that that really helped us.
(06:35):
But yeah, that's something that I remembered big time.
And definitely the Dennis committee commentary.
Yeah, I was about to touch on that point too.
When who Stephen Mill forgot he had a brain and decided to rush
it. But the my core memory was I was
away racing and I, I, yeah, I thought, well, home and home and
(06:58):
hoes. I went out for a race and come
back and it was a draw. It's like hang on here, like
what happens here. I think that's why, yeah, we
should introduce extra time in finals, just so that.
That next week, I think they're doing it now, doesn't have one.
Yeah, yeah, I, I personally, I think you know, you know,
whatever it is, you know, two more, two more quarters or
(07:19):
another quarter or whatever. But you see the NRL does it with
golden points. So there should be a system
where that sort of happens in AFL.
Yeah, I'll only argue that we'llprobably have lost the game if
if it did go extra the way that we were, that we were going.
But again, I think you're right,it definitely needs to be.
But. No, I was just saying, yeah, we
(07:39):
were shot at the end of the game.
There was no chance, I suppose. Extra time wouldn't have saved
our ass. We're just lucky we come back
and come back the week after anddecide to blow them out of
water. Yeah, for sure, for sure, I
think. This is the whole thing with
doing that extra time. It's just it's more fair.
Best team on the day, not best team in a week's time.
(08:00):
You know, it's on the day and let's say in that final we have
2-3 core injuries like the next week.
You're cooked. So yeah, I guess it's a good
thing that I've done that. Yeah, for sure, definitely for
the future of the league. But yeah, glad in 20/20/10 that
wasn't the case. But we can scrap off that when
we won in 2023 and elite core memory for me, I was fortunate
(08:25):
enough to to get to the game. Shout out to Wendell for the
tickets their Crow supporter gotthem coming up.
We'll be talking about them for sure.
But yeah, again, how you guys felt with the 2023 Grand Final
victory, that's probably a good one to celebrate.
All of us being in our 20s, probably the after party would
have been unreal age. I think you were a bit younger
than that, but still we're able to sort of remember that
(08:47):
probably more than we did as kids.
Yeah, the the 23 for me was like, and I still say it was the
best year of my life. Like seriously best year just
because of Collingwood in the flag.
I'll just remember because I satby myself.
So in 2018 I sat by myself in 2011 when my uncle lost that.
We're not talking about 2018 and11 in this part.
(09:09):
No, I'm Jackie. 2018 Sat alone, we lost worst day of our life.
2023 yeah it was unbelievable. Sat alone and then ends up
meeting up with heaps of mates, going out, getting on the Pierce
and it was honestly like one of the best feelings in the world
(09:32):
and yeah, we're the best team all year and we deserved it
100%. So now it's definitely like one
of the best times. That memory of was it pandals,
dicos digoi goal like still sends shivers down myself.
Ridiculous. Unreal.
(09:54):
Oh, it's it's great. And and then just on top of
that, when you've got the veterans like side bottom
banging them from 50, you just Ithought he.
Was 200 metres out. Have you ever seen him hit it
from 55? Have you ever seen him hit it
from that far before? I've never seen him have a set
shot from that long. And then like you hear the
commentary, I go back on it and they say he hasn't got the
distance. He just smacks it like he I
(10:15):
think he quite 60 metres easily there.
I think since then, every time he gets the ball of like 4550,
he just nails it. I don't know if it's just me or
it's because I'm thinking of that memory, but I just trust it
every time now. Yeah, it's massive.
As you should. But yeah, we're obviously
looking forward and we're going to give ourselves probably time
(10:37):
to discuss this season. And obviously we started strong.
We look like we're the best teamin the comp.
And then the last, I would say 7weeks, we were far off it,
losing five of our last seven games, obviously getting the the
win here against Melbourne to solidify us from from top 4.
But I guess how do you guys feelabout sort of this season and,
(11:01):
and obviously we'll talk about finals, but just kind of your
season reviews to begin with andthen we can kind of move forward
to to what what's exciting coming up?
I guess the touch on similarly to the last one that we were
talking about 2023, like that was a year where we're losing,
come back and win. And you know, when we thought
(11:21):
we're down and out, I'll sit in right next to your rush and you,
you know, you're the one that'llsay now we've done it and I've
said just keep the faith and we pulled through.
So I guess this year it hasn't been the form that you want
going into finals, but there's alot of similarities in the sense
of you're not coming in red hot.You know, you're kind of came
good, became an underdog. But we all know when finals
(11:45):
footy comes, Collingwood tried and tested every single game
they play is, even if it is against some Western Bulldogs,
whoever may be smaller teams. We're the final.
So we're used to these circumstances and I really think
that that Melbourne game just needing to get that win, I think
next week we can just go ahead and really show Adelaide what
(12:09):
we're about. You never, you can never like
underestimate us. Like what was the biggest club
ever? You can just never put a line
through US like they tried to doat the start of the year and it
(12:29):
backfired. And yeah, I, I've got a weird
feeling about next week where, yeah, we could just come out and
dominate and then everyone wouldjust jump back on saying, oh,
no, they're back, they're back, whatever.
But as far as the season went, yeah, like it was a good start,
(12:53):
but I'm not sure, like, how do you think we lost our white boys
like, you know, from the from the last seven games?
Like what do you think was missing?
Well, I don't want to probably talk too much about the off
field stuff, but I feel like thethe issues surrounding Bobby
Hill and obviously we don't knowexactly what's what's going on
(13:15):
there could have been a massive factor.
I feel like it happens technically internally with the
team and the club that's going on at the moment and then when
you lose you just sometimes don't find ways to win and
that's kind of what happened with Fast.
We had the the choke loss against Fred.
We did the reverse Collingwood. That's something that we were
used to doing, 20 points down atthree quarter time and then or
2320 points up for us. But normally 23 points down for
(13:39):
us is a comeback win and Fred ends up doing that to us and
that kind of hurt us as well. Maybe we sort of took the Gold
Coast loss and Campbell was probably one that didn't too
lightly as a sense that we were supposed to lose that game and
we'll be fine. And that's sort of just kind of
propelled into more losses. And the Hawthorn one kind of
(13:59):
exemplified that getting an absolute thrashing in that
moment. But then Adelaide was a bit more
positive. Like we got a good sample size
and we saw what we were about 71plus inside 50s and and then not
many goals. So I don't think that will
happen again. But yeah, I think that sort of
blinded confidence that probablywas infectious to the team could
(14:20):
have been the case, but we'll never know really.
Something that obviously we're never going to know internally.
But as long as we we turn it around in the finals, I guess
things won't won't pop out. But if if we do get out in
straight sets is what all the the AFL world is saying, I don't
agree with it, then we'll probably know why that reason's
the case. But I'm interested to hear
(14:40):
everyone else's thoughts on that.
Yeah, I think, I think we're always due.
We're always due to lose a few games.
I didn't think that badly in like Hawthorne and all that kind
of stuff. But we're always due to lose.
And it was always, it was like, oh, is it going to be this week?
(15:01):
It's going to be this week. But then, yeah, I feel like
maybe we just had a bit of a slump, which happens.
But then I think the Adelaide game showed that we still got
got it in US and obviously the Melbourne game wasn't wasn't
great. But I think final time just
different for us, like we're just finals is different coming
(15:23):
out for big games. That's always been Collingwood.
So I reckon we'll be all right in that sense.
But yeah, the forms time was a bit bit hard to take at the time
because we're the best team in the comp.
But I feel like it just happens to to every every team goes
through it. So I think we just had to have
our rough, rough match then. All things considered.
(15:48):
Yeah, I was going to say. The thing is it's like the
Melbourne game. People take a lot out of the
actual performance itself. But if you look back to how we
played Melbourne or JWSA couple of years back in the in the
finals, we weren't amazing. We just needed the win.
And at the end of the day, people sometimes worry about
about how you win. But at the end of the day, a win
(16:10):
is a win. And you know, if I was saying a
while back that we're in the business of qualifying and it's
kind of true because if you actually see what they've done
throughout the year, they've managed players.
And maybe the way we've managed players to about mid season made
us think we're way ahead of whenwe're in reality we weren't.
(16:30):
They were playing up, you know, those players coming in that
are, you know, deep down the roster over performing.
Eventually it was about to balance out and that's all
that's really happened. We had a sticky part of the
second half of the year and cameup against some good teams that
really tested us. But I think that it is, it's
actually a good thing to be tested now opposed to 1st week
(16:53):
of final, second week of finals,because you can really see what
your team's about and what the weaknesses are.
And if you're not finding it outduring the season, there's a
team that's going to go against like go town on it and smack you
up in finals. So I think there's no better
time to actually get found out if that means any.
Sure. All things considered as well,
like Brisbane finished fifth last year, won a granny and they
(17:14):
always say you always got to getyour rough patch out the way.
And I think we got it at maybe not the best time dropping our
first position, but we selfish top four.
And I think for any team in the comp that's facing Collingwood
twice after a loss, it's, it's very hard to see and it might be
delusion, it might be one eye tosee Collingwood drop a game or
two in, in this final series. And, and us having that second
(17:37):
chance and the ability to to play at the MCG should we lose
or win is, is a plus. And then also against the Cats
who are on the opposite side of the bracket, if we do verse them
in the preliminary, that will also be at the MCG.
So quite confident in our sort of fixture and sort of how we're
played out. Obviously still confident that
we can beat the Crows as well going into next week's finals,
(18:00):
which, yeah, as we mentioned, wereversed them.
We showed that we can we can beat them.
We obviously didn't. But the sample size showed that
we we played a massive factor inthe game and, and dominated all,
all points of the floor, just not the result.
But yeah, how are we feeling about next Thursday?
I wanted to or still thinking ofgoing.
Obviously Adelaide is, is not too far away.
So who'll be going to to the game next week?
(18:21):
Yeah, I think I'm going. I'm going to wait until I get
tickets 1st and then book all the flights and all that kind of
stuff. But I'm pretty sure I'm like 90%
going. And how you feeling?
We should be good. I actually think we'll beat
them. I'm pretty confident in the
sense of we showed them a coupleweeks ago and dominated that
(18:43):
game before the inside 50s as wespoke about, but.
In the wet. Rankin losing Rankin for them is
just like in the wet as well. Yeah, and I think losing Rankin,
that's like AI reckon it's like a four goal turn around with how
good of a player he is. And not just on one player as
well. But I just think we're we've
(19:05):
we've got them, they're going through off field staff and I
reckon, I reckon we'll get them at the right time and hopefully
go to a prelim. Yeah, it is their first finals
in what, over like 9 years in. The last time they made finals
was 2016. No, that's that's huge.
Like no, like no or whatever. But you like, they don't really
(19:28):
play in like massive games like like we're built for the massive
occasions, you know what I mean?We are the massive.
Occasions. There's no bigger stage to test
it out, yeah, there's no biggest, biggest stage than a
final away. And to get into a prelude like,
that's huge. Yeah, and our record there's
pretty good I. Reckon we'll be up for it and
get the win hopefully. On another note, how good is a
(19:50):
fit to? Go in, boner crew.
Hey, ridiculous. Yeah, when he plays in Adelaide,
he's better. Yeah, bringing that to Adelaide
Oval is when Bow, especially his, his full pressure is just
off the charts. Him like I'll be the first one
to put my hand off that shooter.Last year I was not a fan but he
(20:15):
is like many, probably turned 99.9% of heads back around.
Yeah, 100. Percent.
Like 0.01 being the man in the top left.
Yeah, that man. Not a fan.
(20:36):
No, he turned, he said what I was saying was a 0.01% was
shooter. He was a big supporter of him.
Yeah, so. I think I think he always showed
flashes and it's hard to come into this Collingwood system.
But like you, like you said, I don't know one player or
Collingwood fan that doesn't like Beau.
It's you can see what he does. It's it's immense really.
(20:59):
He's all his pressure on the ball, just crunching someone
gets the crowd up and that's what they need.
And you know, I would, I would really love to see Bobby in this
team because I feel like this iswhat we're crying out for.
That type of player that connects forward in the
midfield, someone creative, unselfish, can kick a goal or
two. But you know, it looks like we
may be without him or we he might not even pay for us again.
(21:19):
But I guess what we really got to decide.
I think he's touching on how andhow how we go about integrating
him into the finals because the last four games he's played,
he's been subbed out. Can you risk him in a final to
get subbed out again? It's it's like we all know he's
probably our best defender when fear, you know, he's the
(21:42):
conductor in the back and he's important.
But you know, is it time to justscratch him and try to get on
without him? I think we need, I think he's
very too vital into our team. Like so you're saying Jake to
keep him or not? But I'll definitely keep him.
Definitely keep him. Yeah, hardly.
Yeah, I would. I would rather risk us up and
(22:05):
have Jeremy in the back line because like, man, how unlucky
or you get concussed. I can't remember the other two
injuries but obviously the groyne last week.
Yeah, he had the handy shoe backtwo years ago with Geelong.
Yeah. Yeah, that's just rough, but
I'll risk it personally. Yeah, I agree.
(22:26):
I think he should definitely be now in our 22.
I think the way that Darcy Mooredefends is is very different to
how Jeremy Howe defends. And I think 3 tolls at the back,
especially with their forward line of Walker through Thorpe
and Fogarty. And Fogarty always gives us
problems. I don't know why but he always
seems to just turn it up againstus.
We definitely need Hal down there and even if it gives us
(22:49):
hopefully at least 5 or 10 minutes, I think it's going to
be very, very valuable and untilwe lock up and get Silvani on
the pliers next year, hoping I think Hal stays on and he's in
our best 22. I just don't really trust anyone
else in that defence in that back line to sort of nullify
those forwards besides maybe Frampton and Darcy Moore if he's
(23:09):
not in those one on one positions.
What do you think? What I'm saying is more so he's
he's supposed to be out two to three weeks.
You know what I mean? Charlie playing this week.
No, there's no way. Charlie Dean plays, who plays?
Who would play? I think.
You had. Don't put Charlie Dean in.
Here I don't want him, but who would you put?
I think what you do is Mcstay's crying for a bit of confidence
(23:32):
and he's not working, not working in the rock, not working
in the forward line. Send him back, play on, I don't
know whoever whoever put him on,but I reckon get Mcstay back
bringing Coxy for that second rock and.
They're crying for Coxy. Everyone's saying that.
And I'm like, Coxy's not the Coxy's not going to deliver a
fucking premiership to us, but Ithink it'll help our chances.
(23:56):
Sending Mcstay back, getting Coxy in second rock.
Mcstay cannot rock to save his life.
And it's getting to a point now where I'd rather Mcstay just
give away free kick then let thefucking opposition ruckman tap
it because it's getting ridiculous.
And I reckon we're just crying for Coxy to play Second Rock and
get mixed data back. Just look, we need a, we need a,
(24:19):
we need a taller player back there anyway for this week, so I
reckon get mixed data in the back line.
Just know if Coxy does come in, look out for a first quarter
mark and that means he'll have ablind at the whole game.
So that's what we're literally relying on.
But I don't mind Cox coming in. It's just that I don't know,
that third spot is kind of vacant, too.
I think Mcsay took a pretty clutch mark in the fourth
quarter last week against Melbourne.
(24:41):
I found that mycheck was, yeah, I mean, it came up when it
mattered, I would say, but definitely sort of agree with
that. But I would also even mycheck.
I know we can't put him down back but like he hasn't been in
the best of form lately. Either.
Yeah, yeah, it was, but. I think the difference is with
with checkers and mixed day is and this must just might, it
(25:05):
might be just a viewer perspective, but checkers like
puts his heart on his sleeve, like he'll do anything kind of
thing, whatever. Mixed day he's just like very
soft and and slow and whatnot. So I think like I'd keep
checkers where he is because he's a battler.
He'll battle for us, whereas mixed day forward he's not going
(25:25):
to. He won't battle as much as
checkers for me anyway. I didn't say that.
Being a bit critical on mixed day though our.
Delivery of Ford 50 hasn't been great.
Yeah, yeah, 71 entries, as Jake said, Yeah.
Like, we don't have the keys to clunk them.
We're not. No, we don't have the clunkers.
(25:46):
So like, stop banging them in, you know, the teams are coming
up against. They have it.
We don't. Which also mixed a in that
preliminary final. In general, West in 23 won us
the game pretty much with how good he was in in in the forward
line. So yeah, I don't know.
I don't know, it's interesting, but I reckon definitely do not
bring in Charlie Teen and get another tool back there.
(26:10):
I, I just don't know if, if I can trust, not trust.
But like we can just in finals footy get one of our forwards to
go down back. I just don't see happening, you
know? It's a big ask.
It's a big especially like not really doing it often, but.
And I'm not saying that Charlie,then you should come in, but if
you're getting a four line player down back, that's just
concerning. So I just think at this point
(26:32):
you're going to have to live with maybe Coxy coming in and
and filling in that ruckman and sort of getting, I don't know,
like Darcy Cameron potentially just roaming around as he does.
And, and you've seen it with Gorn from Melbourne.
I'm not saying Darcy Cameron's the same player, but you find
that Gorn comes at the back and he's just picking up marks from
from 4:50 entries. So maybe they might just opt in
for sort of Darcy Cameron to play that roaming back line role
(26:55):
and and just rotating rock in the rock and then just have Cox
there, you know, for presence. I don't know, I just think
that's probably the best way. I think, I think and Maynard,
Maynard can play a role down back as well, playing on taller
opponents. He's done it before, I remember.
He could do a job. In 22 he played a buddy like he
can, he can, he can play taller.So maybe just sent him back and
(27:17):
he played taller against Adelaide and he.
Wasn't yeah, he had he had he had Phil for rattled calling him
weird and stuff. That was so how funny was that
as a sledge? Like I was hearing it on
goranges pod. Could you imagine?
Like you get all the sledges. You've obviously heard the bad
ones along with the good ones, but I think getting called weird
is probably like the most insulting ever because how can
(27:38):
you like, respond to that? Like it kind of questions your
own, your own self to see whether you're weird or not.
So maybe Maidan runs up against the thriller and just starts
calling him a weirdo up, down back and and that probably
rattles him off. That could be a decent idea.
But I think we have options. But that the back line is
something that has actually worried me all season.
I know obviously we haven't beenclinical when it comes to our
(27:59):
450 entries, but I just think wegive up too many easy goals down
back. I think that's just how I see
it. And it gets really frustrating.
So yeah, we're gonna have to see.
I think I, I can see where you're coming from, but I think
the best thing about our season has been actually the back line.
I mean, we'll have the best differential until we had a poor
slump and we finished with top three defence or something in
(28:20):
that mark. And with all the insurance and
outs, losing the ball from the centre, not connecting with the
forwards, it was the only thing that was holding up.
And, and I know sometimes you with that zonal marking game
plan, you know, the opposition kicks it into space, they'll get
a runner to get some easy marks.But you know, the breakdown
really comes down at the source,which is in the centre.
(28:43):
And how many times do you see when the pressure's on against
those like say, The Hawthorns, we just lose every centre
clearance, bang, bang, bang, nonstop.
We don't stop losing them. And it's just coming in, just
coming in. And the reality is you got to
stop the bleeding, you got to win the ball from the centre.
And I think that's been our biggest problem, really.
(29:04):
Clearances. Do we have, yeah.
Do we have ball winners there like do you?
Do you subsidised? Sort of the the.
Skill for the Harden up in in the middle, that's probably the
main question because you've gotplayers like Dakos, Pendles
inside bottom that you want around the footy.
But is there something where just on centre balance, you
bring in players like Ned Long and if teachers are available or
(29:25):
fit or even bow or the goalie just to go in and try win the
hardball and then bring in your Dakos as your Pendles when
there's probably a tackle and a ball up there.
So that's probably the question that I would probably ask I.
Think what we'll find is coming into the Adelaide game, I
wouldn't, I would be surprised if they play a Charlie Dean.
I, I could just see them rollingwith the back six that we have
(29:46):
and rolling Pendlewood through afast back.
And he's going to be more that conductor because he he'd done
it in the last quarter against Melbourne anyways and it looked
like that's what the team needed, someone to just calm it
down, ball in hand and get it out.
And he was unreal. But we know what Pendeley is.
He's a goat. He can just put him anywhere and
he just does the job. Is he, he has to be
Collingwood's greatest of all time?
Like, can we? Is there anyone else that we can
(30:09):
argue that against? I think, I think for me, he's
#1. A long definitely is definitely
an era. That's the question.
Definitely an. Era yeah, I'd I'd give it like
I'll say Swanee's season that hewon the Brownlow was probably
one of the greatest ever Collingwood seasons until Nick
Dacos wins it this year. But I think Pendles right now is
(30:31):
is home for for that number one spot there.
But we'll go on to the great man, Mr Nikki Dacos.
I'm sick of the AFL giving him stick or the the general
community about his flopping andall that.
Obviously we see that. But what an unbelievable player
like obviously favourite to win the Brownlow great year again
this year. How we feeling about that?
(30:52):
Obviously the last time we've won Brownlow was with Dan Swan,
as I mentioned back in 2011. Collingwood's not really a team
where we really rely on on one player.
Not that we do rely on him, but we have a lot of players that
still Brownlow votes. So the fact that Dacos is coming
in and just dominating is just simply incredible.
So want to get your thoughts on on the great man Nikki Dacos and
(31:12):
shout out to Peter Dacos who brought out two unbelievable
brothers. Like you thought he was good.
He's brought out two brothers ortwo sons that are simply
incredible. And Josh Daco is unbelievable
too. I know he doesn't.
Yeah, I know we should. We still need that laboratory
experiment on those terms, I think for sure.
But Joshie, Joshie is unbelievable too.
(31:33):
And obviously we're going to be talking about Nick, but Josh is
unbelievable as well. And he's very consistent.
I think even when we're down, he's one of our best players
when we lose. So I'll give a quick mention on
Josh, but yeah, thoughts on Nick?
And this is finally the time where he's going to win a
Brownlow. He should have won in 2022 or
2023 when he got injured the last four games.
But yeah. I really hope it is.
(31:56):
I feel like, you know, during the season that sometimes we
looked a bit too much for him and that kind of put the system
in a bit of turmoil, I could say.
But look, I really do hope he gets it.
I think he'll be a top three finish for sure.
But I just feel like maybe a Dawson or someone's going to
sneak it from him. And it's hard for me to say, but
(32:19):
you know, he's had a great season as well.
But yeah, day course definitely is a shining light in the team,
especially when we're in poor form.
He looks like he really wanted to wheel it back.
And you know when he's going forward as well, he looks
clinical when he's near that goals and he's just banging
them. That's exactly what we need.
If we can have another midfield option similar to like a DO
goalie that can chip in, I thinkit proved dividends at the end
(32:40):
for us. He has said he's loved playing
forward. He'd ideally want to spend more
time in the 4:50 so definitely something to look at.
One with Dacos, he's set the barso high for himself and I don't
know, you could say this year's having an OK season, but his
previous seasons have been heapsbetter, whether he's being
(33:01):
tagged a lot more or whatever itis they're getting under him.
But if he wins this season, it hasn't been his best season,
that's for sure. I I agree 100%, but that's when
like you see like ridiculous Brownlow voting's last year with
Patty Cripps and like how he managed to get that many votes
is is just beyond me. Like I'm not going to get on to
(33:22):
to those mob, but like you had that season that you would argue
that he'd win a Brownlow in any other year if it wasn't for that
outlier. And then also 2023 where he
missed the last four games and he was like guaranteed gonna win
it if he didn't miss it. Yeah, it's crazy.
He could he literally could havewon like.
Three in a row which? Is ridiculous.
Like you don't say that often. So he's clearly the best player
(33:42):
in the comp. And yeah, who knows.
Who knows if he wins it, but he'll get close.
But Jake, I definitely agree with you in the sense that I
don't think I agree that it hasn't been his best year, but
the fact that he's still able toto be like a Brownlow favourite
is crazy in itself. And I think if they're giving
him this Brownlow and it's it pains me to say it, it's going
to be more of the back of the last two seasons as well as this
(34:04):
season as sort of the sample size rather than like someone
like Jordan Dawson or I'm not saying Desire's top three, but
the last five games he's played,he's definitely in contention.
Now they'd face it off that season.
But I think, I think the way thethe voters will go is, is
they'll use Dacos's three year sample size instead of the 1.
And I think that's what will gethim over the top to win the
(34:26):
Brownlow this year. And if you're an AFL fan, you
may not like it, but as a Collingwood fan you'll take in
and you'll think that he deserves it as as Adrian said,
he's he should have won it threeyears in a row if he was them
for those things. So yeah, keen for him to go and
I think him in the finals is going to be extremely important.
I think we rely on him a lot to obviously get that relief with
(34:46):
his disposal efficiency and alsohis goal kicking.
And hopefully eventually as his as his career develops, he'll
become that sort of code midfield slash forward player
and that'll be something to see for sure.
I think he wants to get that Brown, though out the way, and
once he does, I think he'll honeinto that role a lot more.
I think I read some stat, maybe you've seen the sum stat
(35:09):
something about, I'm not sure ifyou're going to talk about Dacos
and him touching like 40 or 60% of the, you know, score assists
in the team or contributions to goal.
I don't know if that's what you're going to touch on.
But you know, that's such a ridiculous number if you think
of it, that most more than half our goals come from one player.
And like you said, he has been tagged a lot this year, 56789
(35:31):
times and a few of them like thewin taker tag, he, he just broke
through that. And I think that one day he'll
just be able to just run throughhim and he'll be untouchable.
So yeah, what I was going to sayis basically that, you know,
come finals, you're going to have attention.
Your best players are going to have attention.
He's dealt with that all year asa team.
(35:53):
I think towards the end of the year, we definitely were able to
handle the tag or help take us alot more, get free.
So I think it's just, like I said, just more learning
throughout the season. Yeah, the I was going to touch
base on the the whole Brownlow voting stuff, but, well, he's on
pace to smashed Gary Abbott by an absolute mile.
(36:15):
Like the legs of the Flemington straight.
Yeah, and it's just like, what? He's 3-4 years into his career
and he's like already could have, should have whatever had
three brown lies. It's just unreal.
Yeah, an AFL, all the fans are just too focused on sort of, I
(36:36):
guess just his flopping and sortof how the AFL rims him, which I
think they do a bit, but who wouldn't?
If if you're literally when you're second year, you're
almost going to win a Brownlow, You've been the captain of the
under twos, Australian or Australian team and also been a
multi or Australian before the age of even 25.
It's crazy, like people, people forget to, to realise that he's
(36:59):
only like 22 years of age and he's doing what he's doing, you
know? The scary part is.
Incredible. And I think.
He's only not even close to his prime.
Yeah. Not even close.
He's not. And this is the thing when
everyone's like, oh, you know, Collingwood in a couple years
when all the oldies go, they're done.
(37:19):
We're not done. We got Dacos and people are
going to want to play a film. Let's be real, we're the biggest
club. We've got Dacos, you know,
they're going to have father sons coming in, we're going to
be around and I think that's what kills people.
They hate it, mate. They can't.
They can't handle that. This is this is that.
They can't handle it, but we're going to be there.
We've got that because it's going to be all right.
Yeah, the the AFL is crying out for for no father son rule.
(37:41):
And what I'll say to that is mate, the players and the fans
get better, get better sons, make better daughters.
And that too, exactly what Jay started as well.
That too, for sure. But yeah, I think we're always
up there. We're the biggest club in the
land and I think people need to accept that we have, we have
greatness all around wherever wego, 16 premierships as well.
(38:01):
It's great to sort of talk 1 eyed.
But yeah, it's it's awesome to have obviously someone like
Nikki Dakos around and yeah, he's going to contend big time.
And as you said, once he gets into his prime, we're going to
see him just load up in that forward line and be that sort of
pachaka dusty type. I reckon getting goals and and
getting possessions too, like he's doing already, but just
(38:21):
spending more time in the forward line.
Mate, you're awfully quiet. I want to hear sort of your
thoughts around all this mate, because I know you're a big
Dacos lover too. Oh.
Mate, I've I've learned the hardway, I've always tried to defend
him and whatever or whatnot, butpeople are just like jealous of
how good we have it with, with Dacos.
(38:42):
And yeah, there's, there's nothing more to say.
I think we've covered it that he's just he's literally the
GOAT. And who knows if if he ends up
like Pendels and plays 400 gamesor whatever, he might be the
best final player ever. So yeah, I've got nothing more
to say. But look.
If he plays 400 plus games we might see like 4 Brown loads, 6
(39:05):
premierships, hundred goal season.
They're all jokes aside but I'lljust I'll just say I'll just say
I'll just say he's going to havea elite career with Collingwood.
Not obviously those high stats but I Speaking of 100 goals
though, and a bit off topic there, how's Cameron trying to
nitpick his goals against Essendon and Sydney?
(39:27):
Do we, do you count 100 goals Ifif you get in the final state
people shouldn't be running I reckon.
I don't, but we've never seen the key forward for us anyway
get near it. So I mean, if we just had one of
them, we could have had another 3-4 flags.
Just wanted to take a moment to thank you guys for tuning into
(39:47):
another episode of The Huddle Within podcast.
If you do enjoy episodes like this or this episode
specifically, be sure to leave acomment and a five star review
wherever you do get your podcasts.
It'd be also great if you could like and subscribe wherever you
do get your podcasts so we can continue to show this out to
people that see sports exactly the way that you do.
(40:08):
But without further ado, let's get straight back into it.
Yeah, I can argue that we have all around players that we rely
on in the forward line. So dynamic, one player can kick
3 the other week, someone else can kick 3.
And that's how we sort of run and.
Yeah, he actually brought up perfectly by talking about
Jeremy Cameron. I would love to speak about
(40:28):
Jamie Elliott's season. And look, man, I was probably
one of the the few that literally thought he was done
this year. Just just where some types of
games where he just sort of looked really slow and and his
effort wasn't there. And this year's had having his
best career. And if you told me that he would
have this output at the start ofthe season, I would have told
(40:49):
you you're 1 eyed and delusional.
But talk to me about, I would say the Renaissance of Jamie
Elliott, but I think we've seen it in him his whole career.
But this has just been a a revelational season and and how
you guys felt about that is whatI really wanted to dive into.
At some stages he was the best score forward in the game this
(41:10):
year and and yeah, obviously when we had that quiet period,
you know, everyone sort of went quiet.
So it's hard to gauge it. But for the first what, 15
games, he was the premier small forward in the comp.
Yeah, do you? Do you?
Do you boys reckon that he he's all Australian worthy this year?
I I can make a definite argumentthere with top four he would he
(41:33):
would have to be into consideration.
Not sure whether he'll get it ornot.
I thought he was a lock, I thought he was a lock, but the
last six weeks kind of waned offand with the form I I he could
be squeezed to be honest. Where do you slide down into the
Goldman race? Great question.
(41:54):
I'm going to take a look it up right now actually as we
continue this just to see. While you do that, I'll just
feel the silence that yeah, I think having Elliot is he's
actually a very tricky match up because he plays a lot bigger
than what his size is. So he's not like a premium or
premier small forward, but he's too quick for the big guys to go
with him, can take a good overhead mark.
(42:14):
So he's really pretty. He's pretty hard to defend.
So well, that's Stephen. Lay on him.
And even at the start of the year, Yeah, that's right.
But taking the key defender of him should really just unlock
the memories of the world or my check or like I say, whoever is
up there. But having him in there is.
It's great. Yeah.
(42:35):
Go on. Yeah, he finished seventh in
goal scoring, so 50, two goals. And on top of him was obviously
thrill 4th, Georgiadis Norton, Gunston Benking and Jeremy
Cameron. So they'll probably all get
ahead of him. But in terms of small forwards,
he's had the most goals across all small forwards in the comps.
So maybe there's some consideration to squeeze him in.
But there is a long list of of pretty good forward players in
(42:58):
that top 6. So I find that it'll be really
hard for him to get in. But yeah, I think that's because
of the slump unfortunately. But still top seven in goals.
I think he's almost too big for the smalls and then too quick
for the bigs. And I think that's what really
kind of impacted in this season as well.
And I think that's what's special about Jamie Elliott
because he's considered a small 4, but as I mentioned there like
(43:19):
he's a mismatch on on both typesof defenders.
Do you think when Tim Memory come to the club he would have
played as many games as you did?Like in my opinion.
I honestly did. Like why the fuck you just
trying? To get rid of him.
Like like. Team memory is a.
(43:41):
Weapon man He. Does not miss.
He doesn't miss. He was unreal for them too.
And like honestly, like he he fits the bill, though he's
tattered up. If it's he, he feels like a pile
to. Me looks like.
He's only 30 or 31. He's not like prehistoric.
The way he shrugs around so I was better.
I'm gonna feel Jake, I got to say.
(44:05):
Just nice brought up Tim Memory and I was like, that's that's a
name that should probably get a mention because when honestly,
when he got brought to the club,I was like, oh, he's a backup
for sure. And then he's just come out and
he's probably, I know, probably been better than my check and
probably maybe at best forward. We can argue I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm
(44:28):
agreeing with Nathan. Like I, I felt the same as
Nathan. I'm like when he came, when he
came in, I was like 100%. That's, that's another tool we
need, especially with Dan Mcstaybeing out injured.
I knew that Tim Memory was goingto offer a lot like you're
comparing him into a St. Kilda team that that's Abby to
to a Collingwood team that has alot of weapons and Naziah wasn't
(44:48):
the player he is. If Naziah was playing as he was
last year, I'm pretty sure Memory would have got a lot of
goals too with the service that he he provides.
But this season he's got a plethora of players to give him
the ball and he's got a plethoraof different forwards to take
the pressure off him as well. Where I think it's St.
Kilda without Mr. King, who's always, always injury prone.
(45:10):
He's always, he's always the first option.
So yeah, I actually did expect it.
I think that he's come in and and done exactly what I thought
he would do. Like be it, there's some goals
that he's scored from from beyond 50 where I thought wow,
like that was a surprise. But other than that, I'm pretty
impressed with his game. And he's had a few quiet ones,
(45:31):
but that's expected, especially when we've got him on a free.
And I think he was the perfect, the perfect pick up for us, I
think in our forward line. And the good thing is he's not
taking probably the best offender.
Yeah, he's always going to be, he's always going to be a
danger, right? He's always going to have the
(45:53):
chance to run at it and jump at it.
And I think I've I've even seen a few games last year for the
Saints where he jumps down back and takes a few big ones and,
you know, holds the mark and they win the game.
So look, I think it could definitely happen.
Down at the team memory. Surprise if we Chuck them back.
Yeah, shout out to that big man Jake throwing it out of left
(46:14):
field, but I'll rate it. I'll rate it.
Good team memory segment, Dan. You're not actually on that rush
I you're talking about plethora of midfield options.
What's what are we doing with Long?
Is Mitchell just been dead? Is that it?
Oh, I'm hearing he might, he might retire, hearing he might
retire at the end of the year. So whether he plays another pick
(46:35):
is a good question, I think. Yeah, I reckon.
He's done. Yeah, I think Longy keeps his
spot. There was a stage where, and I
think you, you spoke about it before where you said our
players that are sort of coming into the squad were just getting
on that high and sort of being involved and probably
overachieving. And then sort of they got hit
back to reality. And I think Ned Long was a big
(46:56):
example of that going into that sort of losing streak that we
went on. But I think Melbourne, he shared
flashes of, of pretty decent performance.
I think with the the goal in thefourth quarter to, to get the
comeback going and striking whenwe were about 13 points down was
pretty big. Like you're off the boundary.
It's a pretty clutch moment. I think he's obviously not what
(47:17):
Titch was in his prime. He's someone that can go there,
win the ball and you know, pull out some pretty decent moments
and he's a pretty solid tackler as well.
I remember Jake now he's reminding me going at the start
of the season where he mentionedlong belongs.
So just going to write if it. I do think long belongs into our
into our best 22 at at the moment.
(47:39):
But I think this finals series is really going to see, we're
really going to see that and seeif that actually is true, if if
Ned Long certainly belongs or not 100.
Percent. I think in I think in the long
run, playing Long will benefit us way more than playing
Mitchell at the moment because there's not, there's not that
much different. Like there's difference, but
there's not that much differencebetween both of them like their
(48:00):
best performances. And I think that long in the
future will help us more playingin big games than Mitchell that
might retire this year or next year.
Whatever it is, I reckon it'll just benefit.
Don't forget Ned's only 22. Yeah, did he make he made the
Under 22 squad this year. I.
Couldn't tell you, no idea mate.He.
(48:22):
Might have made the 44 or whatever.
Yeah, I don't think he made the the.
Thing. No.
No, I don't think so either. He might.
Have made the 44. Yeah, I don't think so either,
but yeah, for sure. I think when you talk about
Mitchell, obviously we're speaking about when his time at
Collingwood, not his time at Hawks or or Sydney.
We know that he was, he was in his prime, man, a Brownlow
winner. But yeah, for sure, I think Long
(48:44):
will definitely offer more for the future.
And it goes into sort of what Nathan also mentioned before
about if we when we do lose, unfortunately, our, our vets,
our legends, they'll have to come in and and do a role.
And I think Long can definitely do that.
And I think these finals, again,as mentioned, will be a test,
but also will be a good experience and a learning lesson
(49:05):
for for him as well. So that's probably my Long
belong take. So yeah, I will say Long
belongs. Another thing is as well, like
people say, we're old but we'd still have a lot of use.
We do, it's heaps and there's more father sons coming in.
You talk about Bhagwan, who whatis he projected now?
(49:28):
Nath in the in the draught next year.
Well, they were saying top ten at a point and you know, if
anywhere in the top 10 without apick and you just father, son,
I'll take that. You know what I mean?
Let him slide. Yeah, if he slides it's good.
And they reckon draught there's going to be a key forward to use
a gun. Father, son, next Gen Academy,
(49:50):
something along the lines of that, you know, we might really
have a good chance of stocking up and going again.
And I think we've really needed our next key forward for a long
time now. Probably someone you can build
and develop into that role. So I hope, I hope you know,
maybe one guy from the VFL, whoever may be, I don't know who
the guy came in early this year W was it?
(50:12):
Yeah, WWW. Yeah, I think West is the one.
Yeah, he looked good, but he gota bit unlucky, didn't he?
Yeah, well, we played, what, 15 talls that game?
Yeah, against West. Coast Small.
Yeah, in that game. Oh yeah, they didn't want to
send them up there that the flight tickets were too much in
(50:33):
the travel time, mate. Collingwood, you know we don't
like playing in the in the otherstates, don't we?
So we just send our worst players and still get wins.
That's how we. Roll, but this is this is what I
think though, with all the different line UPS that we've
had and you know, the balance has been off.
I think the coach went crazy. He's just testing what he's got.
Like you know, when push comes to shove, you're putting
Pendlebury in there, you put himside bottom or day cost and you
(50:56):
know, those last 6-8 weeks really moved away from that just
to see who or what he has. Similar to Houston a couple of
weeks ago. It's just testing.
See different things you can do.Yeah, so how are we going to win
this 17th premiership and be thegreatest AFL team of all time if
we're not already? But officially on paper when we
(51:18):
win this 17. So what are the keys do you
think? Obviously Adelaide coming up is
is a must win but what needs to to click for us to sort of get
that 17th Cup do you guys reckon?
I think we've got to start, go back to playing bold and that's
the that's, that's the way we play.
And that's the best way to win games is just go bold and go big
(51:40):
or go home and away with reason,obviously.
But I think that's the right start is to, if you look at our
games in the first half when we're dominating, it was just
bold. We're just moving it quick and
it's it's playing on instinct. Not really like overthinking it.
Just just bang, go, go, go. And then I reckon that's how
that's how we'll go, right, And hopefully bring the 17 one home.
(52:04):
Like the way we ran in, in, you know, our midfield pattern at
the start of the year. I don't know whether we got
found out or whatever, but, you know, our wives, you know, we're
untouchable. We're now.
Yeah. I don't know if Craig was trying
something different or it was just, you know, fucking around
with it. But we just need to go back to
(52:25):
our system that is, you know, quotes on and, you know,
obviously connect with our forwards.
Yeah, exactly right. And it's, I think it's that high
half forward pressure which is key and that mid to forward
connection. And you can see in times when
(52:45):
they're getting at the back, they're moving real quick.
They look, they look great. But when you get past that
halfway line and you're just stopping stagnating, then
banging it in, you know, there won't be a fan that tells you
that that's what we should be doing.
Like we we have that PTSD from the West Coast final.
We've seen it doesn't work. You can't stop the ball and in
in spurts against. I don't know if any of you just
(53:07):
watched that Brisbane game last night, but in that last quarter
from the back, they just went straight away bang, bang, bang.
And the Hawks couldn't even get near him.
The the ball moves quicker than the man.
And you know, that's why we ruled out our best when we're
taking the game on, you know, not giving a stuff what they're
doing because it's about what we're doing.
So if we can go back to that, I think we can push for it really.
(53:29):
Yeah, I definitely don't want tosee kicking balls into packs.
Showed showed us that where we just didn't give a fuck and we
just ran it through the guts. Yeah, it's unreal saying that as
well. Even from a like a fan
perspective, watching Collingwood play like that.
It's just it's just entertaining.
It's you love it when you see just handballs flying in through
(53:51):
the middle and us breaking through the lines like that and
just getting forward 50 entries with quality and not into packs.
It's just, it's just, it's just art.
It's art when Collingwood does that.
And I love to see that. And definitely Nathan, what you
said, I definitely agree. I just don't want to see us
getting the ball from back 50, taking up the whole 10 seconds
that we go until the umpire calls play on, hooving it in the
(54:14):
air and hitting the opposition'srock.
That just gets a contested mark and an interception and then
getting that pressure back into our forward 50.
So if we if we play our game, ifwe play the art of Collingwood
and flies sort of system, as youall mentioned, a feeling good
about another another cup for sure, but definitely need to get
past Adelaide. So in saying that, score
(54:35):
predictions for Adelaide or margin predictions to make it a
bit more easier to sort of predict.
I'm going to start. I'm going to go Pies by 11.
I was going to say pies by 11. That's so funny.
I was by 9/8. I wanted to say that's too
funny, actually. Yeah, I was gonna say two.
(54:58):
I was 2 points, 2 points. I got pies by 11 mate, that's
all right. So you can agree with me there.
I'll just first do it, you know.Yeah, that's true.
I. Was gonna say pies by three and
Nick Dacost to keep the winner. It's about 30 seconds to go and
he's just like, Gee, I'll be in the crowd and you see me on TV
(55:19):
and I I was doing a nudie run onthe pitch or some shit.
I'll get Jed off. Bro, you're gonna come.
On on the Siren. Give out give out free free
haircuts mate. Just book it on the Siren.
It's unreal. Well, we're all saying pies to
win. And again I mentioned to put in
our sort of business entries. Just want to shout out
Stairworks, Jackie Klein's company.
(55:41):
Do you want to talk a bit more about that?
Plug that into the pod while we're on here.
Sort of get the guys going. Oh, look.
I mean, if you ever need a staircase, you just, yeah,
contact me I guess. He might paint it black and
white though, so just be carefulwith that. 100.
Percent still. Yeah, but definitely check out
(56:04):
stay work, stay at work, stay atwork.
So I'll pop it up on the Instagram in the description
below. He's playing off.
He's got some really good staresgoing on.
You can check that out on his onhis profile there.
And we've got good old NASA cuts, man.
So talk to me about if you do, are you going to add it in?
If you do get the prediction right?
He's cut up half the the haircuts in in this chat.
(56:25):
So he's done a good job there with me personally.
And I've I've shouted you out previously on the pod before,
but again, talk to me about NASAcuts.
Are we going to see a margin predictor and a free haircut?
Yeah, stay. Stay tuned, there'll be free
haircut margin predictor on on my socials.
But yeah, come down, get a haircut located in like tails
lakes, good vibes, bit of fun, good cuts and that's it.
(56:51):
Yeah, we're watching a lot of, well, you'll definitely be
seeing me and Campbell there if we get there.
But yeah, definitely check out Jakey and Mazza's businesses,
their works and Mazza cuts for your stair needs and also, yeah,
your Barber needs as well. I can safely say that they're
they're very good at what they do.
And and Nathan, if you wanna to get a loan from the bank or get
(57:13):
that approved, if you credit assessment, you can you can do
that with him as well there, I guess if you do decide to go
with ANZ, But yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, not a big ANZ are too fucking high.
Yeah. Oh mates, we won't go there, you
know. Yeah, we'll leave it at that, I
think. But appreciate you boys getting
(57:34):
on the getting on the pot again.Again, Nathan's come on four
weeks in a row, going to have tostop talking about teams he
likes if we're going to get him off.
But yeah. You might have to get a whole
set up soon and you know if I'm on the 5th then get the green
screen goal. Yeah, that's it.
That's it. Well, you got half the set up
anyway. Pretty sure using my mic and and
camera there and I haven't, I haven't told him to give it back
(57:55):
yet. So I might have to hold it on
for a few more. But again, thank you very much
guys for for tuning in and thankyou to all for those who are
listening, probably the one on Collingwood fans.
Hope you could enjoy the the sort of Nuffy takes and and the
one eyed sort of perspectives. But as an overall AFL fan, we
don't do too much AFL in here. So it was great to sort of get
(58:15):
an episode out just before AFL finals, which I'm really excited
for. Even with the Pies, wherever
they go, it's always good to to see finals footy and just really
keen for that. So again, thank you very much
for tuning in and I'll catch youguys next week.
Cheers. Thanks for having us go Pies.
Thank you. Fuck you.
So that's a wrap for this weeks episode of The Huddle Within
(58:37):
podcast. I appreciate you for tuning in
and being part of this communitywhere we go beyond the game and
into what really matters. If this episode resonated with
you, make sure to subscribe, leave a review, and share it
with someone who sees sports just the way that we do.
And hey, I'd love to hear from you.
Connect with me on my social medias, which will be linked
below, send in your thoughts andeven be part of a future
(58:58):
episode. Until next time, keep that
passion alive, stay in the huddle, and remember it's always
deeper than the game. Cheers.
No, you go. No, I will keep a straight face.
Is that all right? Can you, I will you?
Fuck. Welcome to the Huddle Within
podcast, where we go beyond the surface to uncover the real
impact of sports on our lives. Whether it's lessons of
resilience, the passion that fuels us, or the stories that
connect us all, this is where the game gets personal.
I am Daniel, a regular sports fan just like you, and together
(00:23):
we'll explore what sports truly means beyond the surface.
So step right into The Huddle and let's get into it.
(00:46):
What is going on everybody? And welcome to another episode
of The Huddle Within podcast. Last week we saw 4 Liverpool
NAFI fans come onto the pod and discuss all things Liverpool
ahead of the Premier League season.
And this week I've decided to bring on a few Collingwood
Nafis, including myself as I am obviously a Collingwood
(01:07):
supporter talking all things postseason and finals footy.
But before we get into all that,I'm going to welcome everyone on
the pod. Obviously you guys know Nathan
Campbell 4th podcast in a row and a pie span, which he
actually did choose a good team for once.
And we've also got Mr Jake Kleinand also Adrian Mozzarella.
Both have businesses. So you can shout out your your
(01:29):
businesses here on the pod as well once we get introductions.
But Nathan, let's start with youand your Collingwood journey.
For this one, I've been a lifelong I'm calling a fan.
When I was born pretty much had a colony being put on me, not
organised by my parents, the people at the the ward and I
actually had family that went for him too.
(01:50):
So it just was fitting and gone for him ever since.
And I think the highlight was definitely that grand final.
Win 23 went to the final for birthday gift and honestly, it
was just just amazing. As probably every column
supporter, you don't get a choice.
So like knife, I was yeah, at the hospital for calling the
(02:12):
scarf and veiny and doesn't matter from the bottom of the
ladder on top of the ladder. I didn't get it didn't get a
size so. Yeah.
I've been a lifelong corner supporter.
Good choice, but you'd think nowlooking forward, do you reckon?
No, that was great choice. Like, like powerhouse club.
(02:34):
Yeah, that's the best club in the world, mate.
Yeah, I'm pretty similar to the other lads.
I was a member since birth and pretty much just got forced into
it, which definitely wouldn't change it for anything because
far out I could not go for a Carlton or a Essendon, that's
for sure. But yeah, thank God it worked
(02:57):
out and I'm a Price fan for life.
Yeah, my story isn't that's similar, but I would say it
started when I was in in high inprimary school.
Shout out to James Borg if you're listening.
He got me onto the Pies. But it was also a coincidence
that my my dad supported them aswell.
And he pulled up to Oz kick oncewith me wearing a Collingwood
jersey and was was pretty proud and found out that Campbell was
(03:18):
a supplier as well. Obviously met him in primary
school too. So I just kind of went away with
that. And yeah, what a choice it's
been. And I can safely say from all
the teams I've supported in all sports, I think this one would
be the number one team because of the fact that obviously they
played in Australia. It's the local sport.
And it's something that I think I grew up with AFL being the
(03:39):
first sport I got into and also the first team that I sort of
supported. So yeah, lots of memories from
there. So I guess Speaking of memories,
Campbell touched up on the 23 grand final we'll start with
because in our lifetime we've won two.
I'm pretty sure everyone here has seen 2 grand finals in their
lifetime. We'll start with 2010's
experience and what you guys felt after.
(04:00):
For me, I can start. I I actually ran naked around
the house when we won our first grand final.
Quite embarrassing moment. But at the time we were just
full of adrenaline. Being a 12 year old kid.
We found no hair on my balls, but just running around the my
dad's house. After winning that after the
first time we drew obviously andwe got back the replay and, and
(04:21):
managed to just blow them out the park.
So yeah, it was a great moment for me in 2010.
But yeah, starting with any of you guys, what would be, if you
remember the time in 2010, your best kept memory, I think Agent
Star, because you're probably the youngest of us, to be
honest. I was young man, I was, I was
actually on a family holiday at like Hamilton Island or
something like that. And I had no choice but to go on
(04:43):
this holiday because I was so young.
And I remember getting on the plane as the the game was
starting and by the time I got off the plane and whatnot and
got home, the game was finished.It was a draw.
And I was like, well, I was so confused at the time.
What the fuck happens when it's a draw?
(05:03):
No idea. And then luckily got to watch it
the next week because I was backin back home.
And honestly one of the best days of my life.
But I reckon 23 was better than 20/20/10.
And I'm sure we'll get into the 23 later.
But yeah, it was a good time to be alive, that's for sure.
(05:27):
A bit like yours as not so much diff different, but I it was
actually my birthday for the thefirst final that we played in
2010. So I had all the family over and
we're just copying it because everyone thought we were going
to lose and the way the game wasgoing, if you added on an extra
couple of minutes, we probably would have.
And going into that final, in myopinion, we'll probably the
(05:49):
second best team going into the final.
And I wasn't too confident because that St.
Kilda team was full of stars. And, you know, we got the draw
and I was like you, like you said, I, I don't know what the
fuck happens. I was like, what's going on?
How can you draw final? You know what I mean?
So yeah, we've replayed it. And I guess the core memory is
when Shaw comes out the back outof nowhere, stops the goal.
(06:14):
And that was that was just, everything was up since then.
And it's just like we knew we'regoing to win.
It was just, it was just amazingand that was the core memory
that I have from that day. I'll circle back back to the the
first moment you said I I still can't fathom what Stephen Mill
was doing in that moment. I'm so glad he didn't get the
ball and just take it for a goal.
And we opted for a rush behind and that that really helped us.
(06:35):
But yeah, that's something that I remembered big time.
And definitely the Dennis committee commentary.
Yeah, I was about to touch on that point too.
When who Stephen Mill forgot he had a brain and decided to rush
it. But the my core memory was I was
away racing and I, I, yeah, I thought, well, home and home and
(06:58):
hoes. I went out for a race and come
back and it was a draw. It's like hang on here, like
what happens here. I think that's why, yeah, we
should introduce extra time in finals, just so that.
That next week, I think they're doing it now, doesn't have one.
Yeah, yeah, I, I personally, I think you know, you know,
whatever it is, you know, two more, two more quarters or
(07:19):
another quarter or whatever. But you see the NRL does it with
golden points. So there should be a system
where that sort of happens in AFL.
Yeah, I'll only argue that we'llprobably have lost the game if
if it did go extra the way that we were, that we were going.
But again, I think you're right,it definitely needs to be.
But. No, I was just saying, yeah, we
(07:39):
were shot at the end of the game.
There was no chance, I suppose. Extra time wouldn't have saved
our ass. We're just lucky we come back
and come back the week after anddecide to blow them out of
water. Yeah, for sure, for sure, I
think. This is the whole thing with
doing that extra time. It's just it's more fair.
Best team on the day, not best team in a week's time.
(08:00):
You know, it's on the day and let's say in that final we have
2-3 core injuries like the next week.
You're cooked. So yeah, I guess it's a good
thing that I've done that. Yeah, for sure, definitely for
the future of the league. But yeah, glad in 20/20/10 that
wasn't the case. But we can scrap off that when
we won in 2023 and elite core memory for me, I was fortunate
(08:25):
enough to to get to the game. Shout out to Wendell for the
tickets their Crow supporter gotthem coming up.
We'll be talking about them for sure.
But yeah, again, how you guys felt with the 2023 Grand Final
victory, that's probably a good one to celebrate.
All of us being in our 20s, probably the after party would
have been unreal age. I think you were a bit younger
than that, but still we're able to sort of remember that
(08:47):
probably more than we did as kids.
Yeah, the the 23 for me was like, and I still say it was the
best year of my life. Like seriously best year just
because of Collingwood in the flag.
I'll just remember because I satby myself.
So in 2018 I sat by myself in 2011 when my uncle lost that.
We're not talking about 2018 and11 in this part.
(09:09):
No, I'm Jackie. 2018 Sat alone, we lost worst day of our life.
2023 yeah it was unbelievable. Sat alone and then ends up
meeting up with heaps of mates, going out, getting on the Pierce
and it was honestly like one of the best feelings in the world
(09:32):
and yeah, we're the best team all year and we deserved it
100%. So now it's definitely like one
of the best times. That memory of was it pandals,
dicos digoi goal like still sends shivers down myself.
Ridiculous. Unreal.
(09:54):
Oh, it's it's great. And and then just on top of
that, when you've got the veterans like side bottom
banging them from 50, you just Ithought he.
Was 200 metres out. Have you ever seen him hit it
from 55? Have you ever seen him hit it
from that far before? I've never seen him have a set
shot from that long. And then like you hear the
commentary, I go back on it and they say he hasn't got the
distance. He just smacks it like he I
(10:15):
think he quite 60 metres easily there.
I think since then, every time he gets the ball of like 4550,
he just nails it. I don't know if it's just me or
it's because I'm thinking of that memory, but I just trust it
every time now. Yeah, it's massive.
As you should. But yeah, we're obviously
looking forward and we're going to give ourselves probably time
(10:37):
to discuss this season. And obviously we started strong.
We look like we're the best teamin the comp.
And then the last, I would say 7weeks, we were far off it,
losing five of our last seven games, obviously getting the the
win here against Melbourne to solidify us from from top 4.
But I guess how do you guys feelabout sort of this season and,
(11:01):
and obviously we'll talk about finals, but just kind of your
season reviews to begin with andthen we can kind of move forward
to to what what's exciting coming up?
I guess the touch on similarly to the last one that we were
talking about 2023, like that was a year where we're losing,
come back and win. And you know, when we thought
(11:21):
we're down and out, I'll sit in right next to your rush and you,
you know, you're the one that'llsay now we've done it and I've
said just keep the faith and we pulled through.
So I guess this year it hasn't been the form that you want
going into finals, but there's alot of similarities in the sense
of you're not coming in red hot.You know, you're kind of came
good, became an underdog. But we all know when finals
(11:45):
footy comes, Collingwood tried and tested every single game
they play is, even if it is against some Western Bulldogs,
whoever may be smaller teams. We're the final.
So we're used to these circumstances and I really think
that that Melbourne game just needing to get that win, I think
next week we can just go ahead and really show Adelaide what
(12:09):
we're about. You never, you can never like
underestimate us. Like what was the biggest club
ever? You can just never put a line
through US like they tried to doat the start of the year and it
(12:29):
backfired. And yeah, I, I've got a weird
feeling about next week where, yeah, we could just come out and
dominate and then everyone wouldjust jump back on saying, oh,
no, they're back, they're back, whatever.
But as far as the season went, yeah, like it was a good start,
(12:53):
but I'm not sure, like, how do you think we lost our white boys
like, you know, from the from the last seven games?
Like what do you think was missing?
Well, I don't want to probably talk too much about the off
field stuff, but I feel like thethe issues surrounding Bobby
Hill and obviously we don't knowexactly what's what's going on
(13:15):
there could have been a massive factor.
I feel like it happens technically internally with the
team and the club that's going on at the moment and then when
you lose you just sometimes don't find ways to win and
that's kind of what happened with Fast.
We had the the choke loss against Fred.
We did the reverse Collingwood. That's something that we were
used to doing, 20 points down atthree quarter time and then or
2320 points up for us. But normally 23 points down for
(13:39):
us is a comeback win and Fred ends up doing that to us and
that kind of hurt us as well. Maybe we sort of took the Gold
Coast loss and Campbell was probably one that didn't too
lightly as a sense that we were supposed to lose that game and
we'll be fine. And that's sort of just kind of
propelled into more losses. And the Hawthorn one kind of
(13:59):
exemplified that getting an absolute thrashing in that
moment. But then Adelaide was a bit more
positive. Like we got a good sample size
and we saw what we were about 71plus inside 50s and and then not
many goals. So I don't think that will
happen again. But yeah, I think that sort of
blinded confidence that probablywas infectious to the team could
(14:20):
have been the case, but we'll never know really.
Something that obviously we're never going to know internally.
But as long as we we turn it around in the finals, I guess
things won't won't pop out. But if if we do get out in
straight sets is what all the the AFL world is saying, I don't
agree with it, then we'll probably know why that reason's
the case. But I'm interested to hear
(14:40):
everyone else's thoughts on that.
Yeah, I think, I think we're always due.
We're always due to lose a few games.
I didn't think that badly in like Hawthorne and all that kind
of stuff. But we're always due to lose.
And it was always, it was like, oh, is it going to be this week?
(15:01):
It's going to be this week. But then, yeah, I feel like
maybe we just had a bit of a slump, which happens.
But then I think the Adelaide game showed that we still got
got it in US and obviously the Melbourne game wasn't wasn't
great. But I think final time just
different for us, like we're just finals is different coming
(15:23):
out for big games. That's always been Collingwood.
So I reckon we'll be all right in that sense.
But yeah, the forms time was a bit bit hard to take at the time
because we're the best team in the comp.
But I feel like it just happens to to every every team goes
through it. So I think we just had to have
our rough, rough match then. All things considered.
(15:48):
Yeah, I was going to say. The thing is it's like the
Melbourne game. People take a lot out of the
actual performance itself. But if you look back to how we
played Melbourne or JWSA couple of years back in the in the
finals, we weren't amazing. We just needed the win.
And at the end of the day, people sometimes worry about
about how you win. But at the end of the day, a win
(16:10):
is a win. And you know, if I was saying a
while back that we're in the business of qualifying and it's
kind of true because if you actually see what they've done
throughout the year, they've managed players.
And maybe the way we've managed players to about mid season made
us think we're way ahead of whenwe're in reality we weren't.
(16:30):
They were playing up, you know, those players coming in that
are, you know, deep down the roster over performing.
Eventually it was about to balance out and that's all
that's really happened. We had a sticky part of the
second half of the year and cameup against some good teams that
really tested us. But I think that it is, it's
actually a good thing to be tested now opposed to 1st week
(16:53):
of final, second week of finals,because you can really see what
your team's about and what the weaknesses are.
And if you're not finding it outduring the season, there's a
team that's going to go against like go town on it and smack you
up in finals. So I think there's no better
time to actually get found out if that means any.
Sure. All things considered as well,
like Brisbane finished fifth last year, won a granny and they
(17:14):
always say you always got to getyour rough patch out the way.
And I think we got it at maybe not the best time dropping our
first position, but we selfish top four.
And I think for any team in the comp that's facing Collingwood
twice after a loss, it's, it's very hard to see and it might be
delusion, it might be one eye tosee Collingwood drop a game or
two in, in this final series. And, and us having that second
(17:37):
chance and the ability to to play at the MCG should we lose
or win is, is a plus. And then also against the Cats
who are on the opposite side of the bracket, if we do verse them
in the preliminary, that will also be at the MCG.
So quite confident in our sort of fixture and sort of how we're
played out. Obviously still confident that
we can beat the Crows as well going into next week's finals,
(18:00):
which, yeah, as we mentioned, wereversed them.
We showed that we can we can beat them.
We obviously didn't. But the sample size showed that
we we played a massive factor inthe game and, and dominated all,
all points of the floor, just not the result.
But yeah, how are we feeling about next Thursday?
I wanted to or still thinking ofgoing.
Obviously Adelaide is, is not too far away.
So who'll be going to to the game next week?
(18:21):
Yeah, I think I'm going. I'm going to wait until I get
tickets 1st and then book all the flights and all that kind of
stuff. But I'm pretty sure I'm like 90%
going. And how you feeling?
We should be good. I actually think we'll beat
them. I'm pretty confident in the
sense of we showed them a coupleweeks ago and dominated that
(18:43):
game before the inside 50s as wespoke about, but.
In the wet. Rankin losing Rankin for them is
just like in the wet as well. Yeah, and I think losing Rankin,
that's like AI reckon it's like a four goal turn around with how
good of a player he is. And not just on one player as
well. But I just think we're we've
(19:05):
we've got them, they're going through off field staff and I
reckon, I reckon we'll get them at the right time and hopefully
go to a prelim. Yeah, it is their first finals
in what, over like 9 years in. The last time they made finals
was 2016. No, that's that's huge.
Like no, like no or whatever. But you like, they don't really
(19:28):
play in like massive games like like we're built for the massive
occasions, you know what I mean?We are the massive.
Occasions. There's no bigger stage to test
it out, yeah, there's no biggest, biggest stage than a
final away. And to get into a prelude like,
that's huge. Yeah, and our record there's
pretty good I. Reckon we'll be up for it and
get the win hopefully. On another note, how good is a
(19:50):
fit to? Go in, boner crew.
Hey, ridiculous. Yeah, when he plays in Adelaide,
he's better. Yeah, bringing that to Adelaide
Oval is when Bow, especially his, his full pressure is just
off the charts. Him like I'll be the first one
to put my hand off that shooter.Last year I was not a fan but he
(20:15):
is like many, probably turned 99.9% of heads back around.
Yeah, 100. Percent.
Like 0.01 being the man in the top left.
Yeah, that man. Not a fan.
(20:36):
No, he turned, he said what I was saying was a 0.01% was
shooter. He was a big supporter of him.
Yeah, so. I think I think he always showed
flashes and it's hard to come into this Collingwood system.
But like you, like you said, I don't know one player or
Collingwood fan that doesn't like Beau.
It's you can see what he does. It's it's immense really.
(20:59):
He's all his pressure on the ball, just crunching someone
gets the crowd up and that's what they need.
And you know, I would, I would really love to see Bobby in this
team because I feel like this iswhat we're crying out for.
That type of player that connects forward in the
midfield, someone creative, unselfish, can kick a goal or
two. But you know, it looks like we
may be without him or we he might not even pay for us again.
(21:19):
But I guess what we really got to decide.
I think he's touching on how andhow how we go about integrating
him into the finals because the last four games he's played,
he's been subbed out. Can you risk him in a final to
get subbed out again? It's it's like we all know he's
probably our best defender when fear, you know, he's the
(21:42):
conductor in the back and he's important.
But you know, is it time to justscratch him and try to get on
without him? I think we need, I think he's
very too vital into our team. Like so you're saying Jake to
keep him or not? But I'll definitely keep him.
Definitely keep him. Yeah, hardly.
Yeah, I would. I would rather risk us up and
(22:05):
have Jeremy in the back line because like, man, how unlucky
or you get concussed. I can't remember the other two
injuries but obviously the groyne last week.
Yeah, he had the handy shoe backtwo years ago with Geelong.
Yeah. Yeah, that's just rough, but
I'll risk it personally. Yeah, I agree.
(22:26):
I think he should definitely be now in our 22.
I think the way that Darcy Mooredefends is is very different to
how Jeremy Howe defends. And I think 3 tolls at the back,
especially with their forward line of Walker through Thorpe
and Fogarty. And Fogarty always gives us
problems. I don't know why but he always
seems to just turn it up againstus.
We definitely need Hal down there and even if it gives us
(22:49):
hopefully at least 5 or 10 minutes, I think it's going to
be very, very valuable and untilwe lock up and get Silvani on
the pliers next year, hoping I think Hal stays on and he's in
our best 22. I just don't really trust anyone
else in that defence in that back line to sort of nullify
those forwards besides maybe Frampton and Darcy Moore if he's
(23:09):
not in those one on one positions.
What do you think? What I'm saying is more so he's
he's supposed to be out two to three weeks.
You know what I mean? Charlie playing this week.
No, there's no way. Charlie Dean plays, who plays?
Who would play? I think.
You had. Don't put Charlie Dean in.
Here I don't want him, but who would you put?
I think what you do is Mcstay's crying for a bit of confidence
(23:32):
and he's not working, not working in the rock, not working
in the forward line. Send him back, play on, I don't
know whoever whoever put him on,but I reckon get Mcstay back
bringing Coxy for that second rock and.
They're crying for Coxy. Everyone's saying that.
And I'm like, Coxy's not the Coxy's not going to deliver a
fucking premiership to us, but Ithink it'll help our chances.
(23:56):
Sending Mcstay back, getting Coxy in second rock.
Mcstay cannot rock to save his life.
And it's getting to a point now where I'd rather Mcstay just
give away free kick then let thefucking opposition ruckman tap
it because it's getting ridiculous.
And I reckon we're just crying for Coxy to play Second Rock and
get mixed data back. Just look, we need a, we need a,
(24:19):
we need a taller player back there anyway for this week, so I
reckon get mixed data in the back line.
Just know if Coxy does come in, look out for a first quarter
mark and that means he'll have ablind at the whole game.
So that's what we're literally relying on.
But I don't mind Cox coming in. It's just that I don't know,
that third spot is kind of vacant, too.
I think Mcsay took a pretty clutch mark in the fourth
quarter last week against Melbourne.
(24:41):
I found that mycheck was, yeah, I mean, it came up when it
mattered, I would say, but definitely sort of agree with
that. But I would also even mycheck.
I know we can't put him down back but like he hasn't been in
the best of form lately. Either.
Yeah, yeah, it was, but. I think the difference is with
with checkers and mixed day is and this must just might, it
(25:05):
might be just a viewer perspective, but checkers like
puts his heart on his sleeve, like he'll do anything kind of
thing, whatever. Mixed day he's just like very
soft and and slow and whatnot. So I think like I'd keep
checkers where he is because he's a battler.
He'll battle for us, whereas mixed day forward he's not going
(25:25):
to. He won't battle as much as
checkers for me anyway. I didn't say that.
Being a bit critical on mixed day though our.
Delivery of Ford 50 hasn't been great.
Yeah, yeah, 71 entries, as Jake said, Yeah.
Like, we don't have the keys to clunk them.
We're not. No, we don't have the clunkers.
(25:46):
So like, stop banging them in, you know, the teams are coming
up against. They have it.
We don't. Which also mixed a in that
preliminary final. In general, West in 23 won us
the game pretty much with how good he was in in in the forward
line. So yeah, I don't know.
I don't know, it's interesting, but I reckon definitely do not
bring in Charlie Teen and get another tool back there.
(26:10):
I, I just don't know if, if I can trust, not trust.
But like we can just in finals footy get one of our forwards to
go down back. I just don't see happening, you
know? It's a big ask.
It's a big especially like not really doing it often, but.
And I'm not saying that Charlie,then you should come in, but if
you're getting a four line player down back, that's just
concerning. So I just think at this point
(26:32):
you're going to have to live with maybe Coxy coming in and
and filling in that ruckman and sort of getting, I don't know,
like Darcy Cameron potentially just roaming around as he does.
And, and you've seen it with Gorn from Melbourne.
I'm not saying Darcy Cameron's the same player, but you find
that Gorn comes at the back and he's just picking up marks from
from 4:50 entries. So maybe they might just opt in
for sort of Darcy Cameron to play that roaming back line role
(26:55):
and and just rotating rock in the rock and then just have Cox
there, you know, for presence. I don't know, I just think
that's probably the best way. I think, I think and Maynard,
Maynard can play a role down back as well, playing on taller
opponents. He's done it before, I remember.
He could do a job. In 22 he played a buddy like he
can, he can, he can play taller.So maybe just sent him back and
(27:17):
he played taller against Adelaide and he.
Wasn't yeah, he had he had he had Phil for rattled calling him
weird and stuff. That was so how funny was that
as a sledge? Like I was hearing it on
goranges pod. Could you imagine?
Like you get all the sledges. You've obviously heard the bad
ones along with the good ones, but I think getting called weird
is probably like the most insulting ever because how can
(27:38):
you like, respond to that? Like it kind of questions your
own, your own self to see whether you're weird or not.
So maybe Maidan runs up against the thriller and just starts
calling him a weirdo up, down back and and that probably
rattles him off. That could be a decent idea.
But I think we have options. But that the back line is
something that has actually worried me all season.
I know obviously we haven't beenclinical when it comes to our
(27:59):
450 entries, but I just think wegive up too many easy goals down
back. I think that's just how I see
it. And it gets really frustrating.
So yeah, we're gonna have to see.
I think I, I can see where you're coming from, but I think
the best thing about our season has been actually the back line.
I mean, we'll have the best differential until we had a poor
slump and we finished with top three defence or something in
(28:20):
that mark. And with all the insurance and
outs, losing the ball from the centre, not connecting with the
forwards, it was the only thing that was holding up.
And, and I know sometimes you with that zonal marking game
plan, you know, the opposition kicks it into space, they'll get
a runner to get some easy marks.But you know, the breakdown
really comes down at the source,which is in the centre.
(28:43):
And how many times do you see when the pressure's on against
those like say, The Hawthorns, we just lose every centre
clearance, bang, bang, bang, nonstop.
We don't stop losing them. And it's just coming in, just
coming in. And the reality is you got to
stop the bleeding, you got to win the ball from the centre.
And I think that's been our biggest problem, really.
(29:04):
Clearances. Do we have, yeah.
Do we have ball winners there like do you?
Do you subsidised? Sort of the the.
Skill for the Harden up in in the middle, that's probably the
main question because you've gotplayers like Dakos, Pendles
inside bottom that you want around the footy.
But is there something where just on centre balance, you
bring in players like Ned Long and if teachers are available or
(29:25):
fit or even bow or the goalie just to go in and try win the
hardball and then bring in your Dakos as your Pendles when
there's probably a tackle and a ball up there.
So that's probably the question that I would probably ask I.
Think what we'll find is coming into the Adelaide game, I
wouldn't, I would be surprised if they play a Charlie Dean.
I, I could just see them rollingwith the back six that we have
(29:46):
and rolling Pendlewood through afast back.
And he's going to be more that conductor because he he'd done
it in the last quarter against Melbourne anyways and it looked
like that's what the team needed, someone to just calm it
down, ball in hand and get it out.
And he was unreal. But we know what Pendeley is.
He's a goat. He can just put him anywhere and
he just does the job. Is he, he has to be
Collingwood's greatest of all time?
Like, can we? Is there anyone else that we can
(30:09):
argue that against? I think, I think for me, he's
#1. A long definitely is definitely
an era. That's the question.
Definitely an. Era yeah, I'd I'd give it like
I'll say Swanee's season that hewon the Brownlow was probably
one of the greatest ever Collingwood seasons until Nick
Dacos wins it this year. But I think Pendles right now is
(30:31):
is home for for that number one spot there.
But we'll go on to the great man, Mr Nikki Dacos.
I'm sick of the AFL giving him stick or the the general
community about his flopping andall that.
Obviously we see that. But what an unbelievable player
like obviously favourite to win the Brownlow great year again
this year. How we feeling about that?
(30:52):
Obviously the last time we've won Brownlow was with Dan Swan,
as I mentioned back in 2011. Collingwood's not really a team
where we really rely on on one player.
Not that we do rely on him, but we have a lot of players that
still Brownlow votes. So the fact that Dacos is coming
in and just dominating is just simply incredible.
So want to get your thoughts on on the great man Nikki Dacos and
(31:12):
shout out to Peter Dacos who brought out two unbelievable
brothers. Like you thought he was good.
He's brought out two brothers ortwo sons that are simply
incredible. And Josh Daco is unbelievable
too. I know he doesn't.
Yeah, I know we should. We still need that laboratory
experiment on those terms, I think for sure.
But Joshie, Joshie is unbelievable too.
(31:33):
And obviously we're going to be talking about Nick, but Josh is
unbelievable as well. And he's very consistent.
I think even when we're down, he's one of our best players
when we lose. So I'll give a quick mention on
Josh, but yeah, thoughts on Nick?
And this is finally the time where he's going to win a
Brownlow. He should have won in 2022 or
2023 when he got injured the last four games.
But yeah. I really hope it is.
(31:56):
I feel like, you know, during the season that sometimes we
looked a bit too much for him and that kind of put the system
in a bit of turmoil, I could say.
But look, I really do hope he gets it.
I think he'll be a top three finish for sure.
But I just feel like maybe a Dawson or someone's going to
sneak it from him. And it's hard for me to say, but
(32:19):
you know, he's had a great season as well.
But yeah, day course definitely is a shining light in the team,
especially when we're in poor form.
He looks like he really wanted to wheel it back.
And you know when he's going forward as well, he looks
clinical when he's near that goals and he's just banging
them. That's exactly what we need.
If we can have another midfield option similar to like a DO
goalie that can chip in, I thinkit proved dividends at the end
(32:40):
for us. He has said he's loved playing
forward. He'd ideally want to spend more
time in the 4:50 so definitely something to look at.
One with Dacos, he's set the barso high for himself and I don't
know, you could say this year's having an OK season, but his
previous seasons have been heapsbetter, whether he's being
(33:01):
tagged a lot more or whatever itis they're getting under him.
But if he wins this season, it hasn't been his best season,
that's for sure. I I agree 100%, but that's when
like you see like ridiculous Brownlow voting's last year with
Patty Cripps and like how he managed to get that many votes
is is just beyond me. Like I'm not going to get on to
(33:22):
to those mob, but like you had that season that you would argue
that he'd win a Brownlow in any other year if it wasn't for that
outlier. And then also 2023 where he
missed the last four games and he was like guaranteed gonna win
it if he didn't miss it. Yeah, it's crazy.
He could he literally could havewon like.
Three in a row which? Is ridiculous.
Like you don't say that often. So he's clearly the best player
(33:42):
in the comp. And yeah, who knows.
Who knows if he wins it, but he'll get close.
But Jake, I definitely agree with you in the sense that I
don't think I agree that it hasn't been his best year, but
the fact that he's still able toto be like a Brownlow favourite
is crazy in itself. And I think if they're giving
him this Brownlow and it's it pains me to say it, it's going
to be more of the back of the last two seasons as well as this
(34:04):
season as sort of the sample size rather than like someone
like Jordan Dawson or I'm not saying Desire's top three, but
the last five games he's played,he's definitely in contention.
Now they'd face it off that season.
But I think, I think the way thethe voters will go is, is
they'll use Dacos's three year sample size instead of the 1.
And I think that's what will gethim over the top to win the
(34:26):
Brownlow this year. And if you're an AFL fan, you
may not like it, but as a Collingwood fan you'll take in
and you'll think that he deserves it as as Adrian said,
he's he should have won it threeyears in a row if he was them
for those things. So yeah, keen for him to go and
I think him in the finals is going to be extremely important.
I think we rely on him a lot to obviously get that relief with
(34:46):
his disposal efficiency and alsohis goal kicking.
And hopefully eventually as his as his career develops, he'll
become that sort of code midfield slash forward player
and that'll be something to see for sure.
I think he wants to get that Brown, though out the way, and
once he does, I think he'll honeinto that role a lot more.
I think I read some stat, maybe you've seen the sum stat
(35:09):
something about, I'm not sure ifyou're going to talk about Dacos
and him touching like 40 or 60% of the, you know, score assists
in the team or contributions to goal.
I don't know if that's what you're going to touch on.
But you know, that's such a ridiculous number if you think
of it, that most more than half our goals come from one player.
And like you said, he has been tagged a lot this year, 56789
(35:31):
times and a few of them like thewin taker tag, he, he just broke
through that. And I think that one day he'll
just be able to just run throughhim and he'll be untouchable.
So yeah, what I was going to sayis basically that, you know,
come finals, you're going to have attention.
Your best players are going to have attention.
He's dealt with that all year asa team.
(35:53):
I think towards the end of the year, we definitely were able to
handle the tag or help take us alot more, get free.
So I think it's just, like I said, just more learning
throughout the season. Yeah, the I was going to touch
base on the the whole Brownlow voting stuff, but, well, he's on
pace to smashed Gary Abbott by an absolute mile.
(36:15):
Like the legs of the Flemington straight.
Yeah, and it's just like, what? He's 3-4 years into his career
and he's like already could have, should have whatever had
three brown lies. It's just unreal.
Yeah, an AFL, all the fans are just too focused on sort of, I
(36:36):
guess just his flopping and sortof how the AFL rims him, which I
think they do a bit, but who wouldn't?
If if you're literally when you're second year, you're
almost going to win a Brownlow, You've been the captain of the
under twos, Australian or Australian team and also been a
multi or Australian before the age of even 25.
It's crazy, like people, people forget to, to realise that he's
(36:59):
only like 22 years of age and he's doing what he's doing, you
know? The scary part is.
Incredible. And I think.
He's only not even close to his prime.
Yeah. Not even close.
He's not. And this is the thing when
everyone's like, oh, you know, Collingwood in a couple years
when all the oldies go, they're done.
(37:19):
We're not done. We got Dacos and people are
going to want to play a film. Let's be real, we're the biggest
club. We've got Dacos, you know,
they're going to have father sons coming in, we're going to
be around and I think that's what kills people.
They hate it, mate. They can't.
They can't handle that. This is this is that.
They can't handle it, but we're going to be there.
We've got that because it's going to be all right.
Yeah, the the AFL is crying out for for no father son rule.
(37:41):
And what I'll say to that is mate, the players and the fans
get better, get better sons, make better daughters.
And that too, exactly what Jay started as well.
That too, for sure. But yeah, I think we're always
up there. We're the biggest club in the
land and I think people need to accept that we have, we have
greatness all around wherever wego, 16 premierships as well.
(38:01):
It's great to sort of talk 1 eyed.
But yeah, it's it's awesome to have obviously someone like
Nikki Dakos around and yeah, he's going to contend big time.
And as you said, once he gets into his prime, we're going to
see him just load up in that forward line and be that sort of
pachaka dusty type. I reckon getting goals and and
getting possessions too, like he's doing already, but just
(38:21):
spending more time in the forward line.
Mate, you're awfully quiet. I want to hear sort of your
thoughts around all this mate, because I know you're a big
Dacos lover too. Oh.
Mate, I've I've learned the hardway, I've always tried to defend
him and whatever or whatnot, butpeople are just like jealous of
how good we have it with, with Dacos.
(38:42):
And yeah, there's, there's nothing more to say.
I think we've covered it that he's just he's literally the
GOAT. And who knows if if he ends up
like Pendels and plays 400 gamesor whatever, he might be the
best final player ever. So yeah, I've got nothing more
to say. But look.
If he plays 400 plus games we might see like 4 Brown loads, 6
(39:05):
premierships, hundred goal season.
They're all jokes aside but I'lljust I'll just say I'll just say
I'll just say he's going to havea elite career with Collingwood.
Not obviously those high stats but I Speaking of 100 goals
though, and a bit off topic there, how's Cameron trying to
nitpick his goals against Essendon and Sydney?
(39:27):
Do we, do you count 100 goals Ifif you get in the final state
people shouldn't be running I reckon.
I don't, but we've never seen the key forward for us anyway
get near it. So I mean, if we just had one of
them, we could have had another 3-4 flags.
Just wanted to take a moment to thank you guys for tuning into
(39:47):
another episode of The Huddle Within podcast.
If you do enjoy episodes like this or this episode
specifically, be sure to leave acomment and a five star review
wherever you do get your podcasts.
It'd be also great if you could like and subscribe wherever you
do get your podcasts so we can continue to show this out to
people that see sports exactly the way that you do.
(40:08):
But without further ado, let's get straight back into it.
Yeah, I can argue that we have all around players that we rely
on in the forward line. So dynamic, one player can kick
3 the other week, someone else can kick 3.
And that's how we sort of run and.
Yeah, he actually brought up perfectly by talking about
Jeremy Cameron. I would love to speak about
(40:28):
Jamie Elliott's season. And look, man, I was probably
one of the the few that literally thought he was done
this year. Just just where some types of
games where he just sort of looked really slow and and his
effort wasn't there. And this year's had having his
best career. And if you told me that he would
have this output at the start ofthe season, I would have told
(40:49):
you you're 1 eyed and delusional.
But talk to me about, I would say the Renaissance of Jamie
Elliott, but I think we've seen it in him his whole career.
But this has just been a a revelational season and and how
you guys felt about that is whatI really wanted to dive into.
At some stages he was the best score forward in the game this
(41:10):
year and and yeah, obviously when we had that quiet period,
you know, everyone sort of went quiet.
So it's hard to gauge it. But for the first what, 15
games, he was the premier small forward in the comp.
Yeah, do you? Do you?
Do you boys reckon that he he's all Australian worthy this year?
I I can make a definite argumentthere with top four he would he
(41:33):
would have to be into consideration.
Not sure whether he'll get it ornot.
I thought he was a lock, I thought he was a lock, but the
last six weeks kind of waned offand with the form I I he could
be squeezed to be honest. Where do you slide down into the
Goldman race? Great question.
(41:54):
I'm going to take a look it up right now actually as we
continue this just to see. While you do that, I'll just
feel the silence that yeah, I think having Elliot is he's
actually a very tricky match up because he plays a lot bigger
than what his size is. So he's not like a premium or
premier small forward, but he's too quick for the big guys to go
with him, can take a good overhead mark.
(42:14):
So he's really pretty. He's pretty hard to defend.
So well, that's Stephen. Lay on him.
And even at the start of the year, Yeah, that's right.
But taking the key defender of him should really just unlock
the memories of the world or my check or like I say, whoever is
up there. But having him in there is.
It's great. Yeah.
(42:35):
Go on. Yeah, he finished seventh in
goal scoring, so 50, two goals. And on top of him was obviously
thrill 4th, Georgiadis Norton, Gunston Benking and Jeremy
Cameron. So they'll probably all get
ahead of him. But in terms of small forwards,
he's had the most goals across all small forwards in the comps.
So maybe there's some consideration to squeeze him in.
But there is a long list of of pretty good forward players in
(42:58):
that top 6. So I find that it'll be really
hard for him to get in. But yeah, I think that's because
of the slump unfortunately. But still top seven in goals.
I think he's almost too big for the smalls and then too quick
for the bigs. And I think that's what really
kind of impacted in this season as well.
And I think that's what's special about Jamie Elliott
because he's considered a small 4, but as I mentioned there like
(43:19):
he's a mismatch on on both typesof defenders.
Do you think when Tim Memory come to the club he would have
played as many games as you did?Like in my opinion.
I honestly did. Like why the fuck you just
trying? To get rid of him.
Like like. Team memory is a.
(43:41):
Weapon man He. Does not miss.
He doesn't miss. He was unreal for them too.
And like honestly, like he he fits the bill, though he's
tattered up. If it's he, he feels like a pile
to. Me looks like.
He's only 30 or 31. He's not like prehistoric.
The way he shrugs around so I was better.
I'm gonna feel Jake, I got to say.
(44:05):
Just nice brought up Tim Memory and I was like, that's that's a
name that should probably get a mention because when honestly,
when he got brought to the club,I was like, oh, he's a backup
for sure. And then he's just come out and
he's probably, I know, probably been better than my check and
probably maybe at best forward. We can argue I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm
(44:28):
agreeing with Nathan. Like I, I felt the same as
Nathan. I'm like when he came, when he
came in, I was like 100%. That's, that's another tool we
need, especially with Dan Mcstaybeing out injured.
I knew that Tim Memory was goingto offer a lot like you're
comparing him into a St. Kilda team that that's Abby to
to a Collingwood team that has alot of weapons and Naziah wasn't
(44:48):
the player he is. If Naziah was playing as he was
last year, I'm pretty sure Memory would have got a lot of
goals too with the service that he he provides.
But this season he's got a plethora of players to give him
the ball and he's got a plethoraof different forwards to take
the pressure off him as well. Where I think it's St.
Kilda without Mr. King, who's always, always injury prone.
(45:10):
He's always, he's always the first option.
So yeah, I actually did expect it.
I think that he's come in and and done exactly what I thought
he would do. Like be it, there's some goals
that he's scored from from beyond 50 where I thought wow,
like that was a surprise. But other than that, I'm pretty
impressed with his game. And he's had a few quiet ones,
(45:31):
but that's expected, especially when we've got him on a free.
And I think he was the perfect, the perfect pick up for us, I
think in our forward line. And the good thing is he's not
taking probably the best offender.
Yeah, he's always going to be, he's always going to be a
danger, right? He's always going to have the
(45:53):
chance to run at it and jump at it.
And I think I've I've even seen a few games last year for the
Saints where he jumps down back and takes a few big ones and,
you know, holds the mark and they win the game.
So look, I think it could definitely happen.
Down at the team memory. Surprise if we Chuck them back.
Yeah, shout out to that big man Jake throwing it out of left
(46:14):
field, but I'll rate it. I'll rate it.
Good team memory segment, Dan. You're not actually on that rush
I you're talking about plethora of midfield options.
What's what are we doing with Long?
Is Mitchell just been dead? Is that it?
Oh, I'm hearing he might, he might retire, hearing he might
retire at the end of the year. So whether he plays another pick
(46:35):
is a good question, I think. Yeah, I reckon.
He's done. Yeah, I think Longy keeps his
spot. There was a stage where, and I
think you, you spoke about it before where you said our
players that are sort of coming into the squad were just getting
on that high and sort of being involved and probably
overachieving. And then sort of they got hit
back to reality. And I think Ned Long was a big
(46:56):
example of that going into that sort of losing streak that we
went on. But I think Melbourne, he shared
flashes of, of pretty decent performance.
I think with the the goal in thefourth quarter to, to get the
comeback going and striking whenwe were about 13 points down was
pretty big. Like you're off the boundary.
It's a pretty clutch moment. I think he's obviously not what
(47:17):
Titch was in his prime. He's someone that can go there,
win the ball and you know, pull out some pretty decent moments
and he's a pretty solid tackler as well.
I remember Jake now he's reminding me going at the start
of the season where he mentionedlong belongs.
So just going to write if it. I do think long belongs into our
into our best 22 at at the moment.
(47:39):
But I think this finals series is really going to see, we're
really going to see that and seeif that actually is true, if if
Ned Long certainly belongs or not 100.
Percent. I think in I think in the long
run, playing Long will benefit us way more than playing
Mitchell at the moment because there's not, there's not that
much different. Like there's difference, but
there's not that much differencebetween both of them like their
(48:00):
best performances. And I think that long in the
future will help us more playingin big games than Mitchell that
might retire this year or next year.
Whatever it is, I reckon it'll just benefit.
Don't forget Ned's only 22. Yeah, did he make he made the
Under 22 squad this year. I.
Couldn't tell you, no idea mate.He.
(48:22):
Might have made the 44 or whatever.
Yeah, I don't think he made the the.
Thing. No.
No, I don't think so either. He might.
Have made the 44. Yeah, I don't think so either,
but yeah, for sure. I think when you talk about
Mitchell, obviously we're speaking about when his time at
Collingwood, not his time at Hawks or or Sydney.
We know that he was, he was in his prime, man, a Brownlow
winner. But yeah, for sure, I think Long
(48:44):
will definitely offer more for the future.
And it goes into sort of what Nathan also mentioned before
about if we when we do lose, unfortunately, our, our vets,
our legends, they'll have to come in and and do a role.
And I think Long can definitely do that.
And I think these finals, again,as mentioned, will be a test,
but also will be a good experience and a learning lesson
(49:05):
for for him as well. So that's probably my Long
belong take. So yeah, I will say Long
belongs. Another thing is as well, like
people say, we're old but we'd still have a lot of use.
We do, it's heaps and there's more father sons coming in.
You talk about Bhagwan, who whatis he projected now?
(49:28):
Nath in the in the draught next year.
Well, they were saying top ten at a point and you know, if
anywhere in the top 10 without apick and you just father, son,
I'll take that. You know what I mean?
Let him slide. Yeah, if he slides it's good.
And they reckon draught there's going to be a key forward to use
a gun. Father, son, next Gen Academy,
(49:50):
something along the lines of that, you know, we might really
have a good chance of stocking up and going again.
And I think we've really needed our next key forward for a long
time now. Probably someone you can build
and develop into that role. So I hope, I hope you know,
maybe one guy from the VFL, whoever may be, I don't know who
the guy came in early this year W was it?
(50:12):
Yeah, WWW. Yeah, I think West is the one.
Yeah, he looked good, but he gota bit unlucky, didn't he?
Yeah, well, we played, what, 15 talls that game?
Yeah, against West. Coast Small.
Yeah, in that game. Oh yeah, they didn't want to
send them up there that the flight tickets were too much in
(50:33):
the travel time, mate. Collingwood, you know we don't
like playing in the in the otherstates, don't we?
So we just send our worst players and still get wins.
That's how we. Roll, but this is this is what I
think though, with all the different line UPS that we've
had and you know, the balance has been off.
I think the coach went crazy. He's just testing what he's got.
Like you know, when push comes to shove, you're putting
Pendlebury in there, you put himside bottom or day cost and you
(50:56):
know, those last 6-8 weeks really moved away from that just
to see who or what he has. Similar to Houston a couple of
weeks ago. It's just testing.
See different things you can do.Yeah, so how are we going to win
this 17th premiership and be thegreatest AFL team of all time if
we're not already? But officially on paper when we
(51:18):
win this 17. So what are the keys do you
think? Obviously Adelaide coming up is
is a must win but what needs to to click for us to sort of get
that 17th Cup do you guys reckon?
I think we've got to start, go back to playing bold and that's
the that's, that's the way we play.
And that's the best way to win games is just go bold and go big
(51:40):
or go home and away with reason,obviously.
But I think that's the right start is to, if you look at our
games in the first half when we're dominating, it was just
bold. We're just moving it quick and
it's it's playing on instinct. Not really like overthinking it.
Just just bang, go, go, go. And then I reckon that's how
that's how we'll go, right, And hopefully bring the 17 one home.
(52:04):
Like the way we ran in, in, you know, our midfield pattern at
the start of the year. I don't know whether we got
found out or whatever, but, you know, our wives, you know, we're
untouchable. We're now.
Yeah. I don't know if Craig was trying
something different or it was just, you know, fucking around
with it. But we just need to go back to
(52:25):
our system that is, you know, quotes on and, you know,
obviously connect with our forwards.
Yeah, exactly right. And it's, I think it's that high
half forward pressure which is key and that mid to forward
connection. And you can see in times when
(52:45):
they're getting at the back, they're moving real quick.
They look, they look great. But when you get past that
halfway line and you're just stopping stagnating, then
banging it in, you know, there won't be a fan that tells you
that that's what we should be doing.
Like we we have that PTSD from the West Coast final.
We've seen it doesn't work. You can't stop the ball and in
in spurts against. I don't know if any of you just
(53:07):
watched that Brisbane game last night, but in that last quarter
from the back, they just went straight away bang, bang, bang.
And the Hawks couldn't even get near him.
The the ball moves quicker than the man.
And you know, that's why we ruled out our best when we're
taking the game on, you know, not giving a stuff what they're
doing because it's about what we're doing.
So if we can go back to that, I think we can push for it really.
(53:29):
Yeah, I definitely don't want tosee kicking balls into packs.
Showed showed us that where we just didn't give a fuck and we
just ran it through the guts. Yeah, it's unreal saying that as
well. Even from a like a fan
perspective, watching Collingwood play like that.
It's just it's just entertaining.
It's you love it when you see just handballs flying in through
(53:51):
the middle and us breaking through the lines like that and
just getting forward 50 entries with quality and not into packs.
It's just, it's just, it's just art.
It's art when Collingwood does that.
And I love to see that. And definitely Nathan, what you
said, I definitely agree. I just don't want to see us
getting the ball from back 50, taking up the whole 10 seconds
that we go until the umpire calls play on, hooving it in the
(54:14):
air and hitting the opposition'srock.
That just gets a contested mark and an interception and then
getting that pressure back into our forward 50.
So if we if we play our game, ifwe play the art of Collingwood
and flies sort of system, as youall mentioned, a feeling good
about another another cup for sure, but definitely need to get
past Adelaide. So in saying that, score
(54:35):
predictions for Adelaide or margin predictions to make it a
bit more easier to sort of predict.
I'm going to start. I'm going to go Pies by 11.
I was going to say pies by 11. That's so funny.
I was by 9/8. I wanted to say that's too
funny, actually. Yeah, I was gonna say two.
(54:58):
I was 2 points, 2 points. I got pies by 11 mate, that's
all right. So you can agree with me there.
I'll just first do it, you know.Yeah, that's true.
I. Was gonna say pies by three and
Nick Dacost to keep the winner. It's about 30 seconds to go and
he's just like, Gee, I'll be in the crowd and you see me on TV
(55:19):
and I I was doing a nudie run onthe pitch or some shit.
I'll get Jed off. Bro, you're gonna come.
On on the Siren. Give out give out free free
haircuts mate. Just book it on the Siren.
It's unreal. Well, we're all saying pies to
win. And again I mentioned to put in
our sort of business entries. Just want to shout out
Stairworks, Jackie Klein's company.
(55:41):
Do you want to talk a bit more about that?
Plug that into the pod while we're on here.
Sort of get the guys going. Oh, look.
I mean, if you ever need a staircase, you just, yeah,
contact me I guess. He might paint it black and
white though, so just be carefulwith that. 100.
Percent still. Yeah, but definitely check out
(56:04):
stay work, stay at work, stay atwork.
So I'll pop it up on the Instagram in the description
below. He's playing off.
He's got some really good staresgoing on.
You can check that out on his onhis profile there.
And we've got good old NASA cuts, man.
So talk to me about if you do, are you going to add it in?
If you do get the prediction right?
He's cut up half the the haircuts in in this chat.
(56:25):
So he's done a good job there with me personally.
And I've I've shouted you out previously on the pod before,
but again, talk to me about NASAcuts.
Are we going to see a margin predictor and a free haircut?
Yeah, stay. Stay tuned, there'll be free
haircut margin predictor on on my socials.
But yeah, come down, get a haircut located in like tails
lakes, good vibes, bit of fun, good cuts and that's it.
(56:51):
Yeah, we're watching a lot of, well, you'll definitely be
seeing me and Campbell there if we get there.
But yeah, definitely check out Jakey and Mazza's businesses,
their works and Mazza cuts for your stair needs and also, yeah,
your Barber needs as well. I can safely say that they're
they're very good at what they do.
And and Nathan, if you wanna to get a loan from the bank or get
(57:13):
that approved, if you credit assessment, you can you can do
that with him as well there, I guess if you do decide to go
with ANZ, But yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, not a big ANZ are too fucking high.
Yeah. Oh mates, we won't go there, you
know. Yeah, we'll leave it at that, I
think. But appreciate you boys getting
(57:34):
on the getting on the pot again.Again, Nathan's come on four
weeks in a row, going to have tostop talking about teams he
likes if we're going to get him off.
But yeah. You might have to get a whole
set up soon and you know if I'm on the 5th then get the green
screen goal. Yeah, that's it.
That's it. Well, you got half the set up
anyway. Pretty sure using my mic and and
camera there and I haven't, I haven't told him to give it back
(57:55):
yet. So I might have to hold it on
for a few more. But again, thank you very much
guys for for tuning in and thankyou to all for those who are
listening, probably the one on Collingwood fans.
Hope you could enjoy the the sort of Nuffy takes and and the
one eyed sort of perspectives. But as an overall AFL fan, we
don't do too much AFL in here. So it was great to sort of get
(58:15):
an episode out just before AFL finals, which I'm really excited
for. Even with the Pies, wherever
they go, it's always good to to see finals footy and just really
keen for that. So again, thank you very much
for tuning in and I'll catch youguys next week.
Cheers. Thanks for having us go Pies.
Thank you. Fuck you.
So that's a wrap for this weeks episode of The Huddle Within
(58:37):
podcast. I appreciate you for tuning in
and being part of this communitywhere we go beyond the game and
into what really matters. If this episode resonated with
you, make sure to subscribe, leave a review, and share it
with someone who sees sports just the way that we do.
And hey, I'd love to hear from you.
Connect with me on my social medias, which will be linked
below, send in your thoughts andeven be part of a future
(58:58):
episode. Until next time, keep that
passion alive, stay in the huddle, and remember it's always
deeper than the game. Cheers.
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
The Bobby Bones Show
Listen to 'The Bobby Bones Show' by downloading the daily full replay.