November 16, 2025 • 33 mins
Dr. Deva Khalsa brings over forty years of veterinary expertise to the table, witnessing a concerning rise in allergies among dogs and cats. Trained in homeopathy, acupuncture, and holistic healing, she integrates the best practices from these disciplines. As a respected global lecturer and author of Natural Dog – Holistic Therapies, Nutrition, and Recipes for Healthier Dogs, (and several other books) Dr. Khalsa delves deep into the root causes of animal allergies, challenging common assumptions. In this enlightening episode, she explores how allergies go beyond mere food sensitivities, delving into DNA disruptions that trigger inflammation and allergic reactions.
Dr. Khalsa critiques the pharmaceutical approach, emphasizing sustainable healing over continual medication. She reveals surprising insights, such as the degradation of supplements like fish oils when exposed to oxygen, often undermining their efficacy despite glowing online reviews. Animal allergies are a source of immense stress and frustration, often leading to dead ends in treatment. Tune in to discover a fresh perspective on this widespread issue and learn actionable strategies for a more effective healing journey. For more resources from Dr. Deva Khalsa, visit DoctorDeva.com.
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Dr. Khalsa critiques the pharmaceutical approach, emphasizing sustainable healing over continual medication. She reveals surprising insights, such as the degradation of supplements like fish oils when exposed to oxygen, often undermining their efficacy despite glowing online reviews. Animal allergies are a source of immense stress and frustration, often leading to dead ends in treatment. Tune in to discover a fresh perspective on this widespread issue and learn actionable strategies for a more effective healing journey. For more resources from Dr. Deva Khalsa, visit DoctorDeva.com.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Pet Life Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Let's talk pets.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
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(00:29):
of the Human Animal Connection.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hello everyone, welcome to the Human Animal Connection Podcast. I'm
your host and the executive director of the Human Animal Connection.
I am so excited to speak to doctor David Talsa.
She is not only a veterinarian, but she is a
holistic veterinarian. She has over thirty years of wellness practices acupuncture, homeopathy,
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so she brings the best of both worlds. And I
know we're going to answer some questions that a lot
of our listeners have about allergies and the animals they
share their lives with. This is a question that confounds
many people, and many veterinarians are kind of throwing up
their hands. They don't know what to do next. So
I know you've got some wonderful solutions. Now, Doctor Calso
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has written several books, including this one. You can see
all my notes in it. Doctor Kelsa's Natural Dog, and
it's all about holistic therapies and nutrition for healthier animals.
So doctor Calsa, thank you so much for being our
guest today.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Oh it's my absolute pleasure. We're going to have a
good time and also your listeners are really going to
learn quite a lot because yeah, I know, no, we're
running the hamster wheel of allergies. If constant, you know,
they're checking dog food, they're worrying about this. They're taking
all these tests and a lot of them are bogus,
and then they're avoiding foods that don't make any difference
and feeding foods that aren't correct. And it's not about food,
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it's really about the immune system. And we're going to
learn a lot. So where shall I start.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Let's start with the immune syste explain how the immune
system and allergies work together perfect.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
The immune system is a computer. So when you get
your POLO shot when you're a kid, you're good for
life because your immune system remembers that it's an enemy. Right.
Your immune system logs in friends and enemies, and it
does it in a way that is very concrete and
it's very very how can I say, set up not
to make mistakes? Right? When you get vaccinations that have
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adjuvants which are aluminum and foods and different things, and
then it causes the body to start to become more
reactive to foods in different things, and it starts almost
a computer program, like a corrupted computer program in the
pet's body. And that corrupted computer program. If there's only
a few things, you do not going to see anything.
But if there's enough, you're going to start to see
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the symptoms of allergies in your dog. And typically they
present as GI problems which they can't tell very foods.
They have lots of different forms of GI distress and
also itching and scratching their skin. So what's happening, you know,
with this immune system? Why is this happening and why
is it working this way? And we have so many
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generations of dogs in which allergies are present that everyone
gets used to it and they think it's normal, and
they run the Empster wheel of checking everything out the food,
that this, that, that, running to the vet all the
time for secondary yeast infections, secondary bacterial infections. And then
what happens is they just get so used to it
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it becomes their entire life, I mean their entire life,
taking anything that's problematic out of the house. You know,
it's a whole thing. So that's the real problem. The
real problem is the computer program that the immune system
is logged in where it's certain things are enemies and
certain things we're friends. Makes sense, Yes, absolutely, Pharmaceutical companies
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work to Pharmaceutical companies don't make money. If they are
going to cure something, they won't make me. You have
to have re So what they do, because the immune
system is misbehaving analogies is whack them all the immune system.
They knock it down and make it non functional. Then
you have to keep giving the medicine and giving the medicine.
And with generations of dogs having these problems, it's gotten
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so that more and more dogs have allergies. I have
a book called The Allergic Pet, ending the Epidemic of
Pet Allergies, and that's my most recent book. And the
thing is is that you're just making the problem worse
because then the babies get very allergic. Let's say you're
showing dogs and you're going to breed them, and you
can't have that hot spot right before they're going to
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get titled. You give them oppressive allergy drug. If they
get a little bit of allergies, then you take them,
you know, then you read them, and then you tell
the puppies it's a it's a downward spiral that we're
and it has to stop.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And it's actually very easy to treat, very Okay, Okay,
Now you've been in this field for quite a long time.
Is the situation getting better or worse? Would you say overall?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Oh? Way worse? What I would Actually I'd been to
that for forty three years.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Okay, So I think you've seen things get a lot worse.
I mean, I think if we go back to say,
our grandparents' dogs and we were not seeing this kind yeah,
we didn't see this kind of itching and digestive disorders
and all of this kind of stuff. So clearly the
situation is getting a lot worse. So what are some
of the things that you tell your clients to start doing.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, Actually, I find out what the immune system is
reacting incorrectly to, I make them up a program, and
on the level of physics, I correct it. So this
is going to get a little esoteric. But let me
just explain something so that people can sort of have
a feel for how it all works. We have mass
cells around our eyes and they produce histamine, and that
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histamine is very, very itchy and makes us scratch, makes
us itch causes inflammation. So with rablee, you know, we
rub our eyes, Our eyes get puffy, our eyes get hot.
Dogs have those same mass cells and ten times the
concentration on their bodies. We're set up like dogs. And
we had ragweed allergies, we'd be scratching our date tlutage bloody,
we'd be chewing our arms, we'd be scratching our butts.
(06:07):
You see, not what dogs do, and yet scratch itch cycle,
which is the mosquito bite I call it the mosquito
bite syndrome. Your mother says, if you keep scratching that
mosquito bute, you're only going to scratch more. Right. What
happens is the dog starts chewing and then it choose
more and to choose more. But because the area is
warm and moist, secondary bacterial infections yeast infections, a yeast
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called maladesia can take play and it becomes a never
ending cycle of antibiotics and amino suppressants, and a lot
of people are very familiar with that. And the pharmaceutical
companies are coming up, would they consider better and better
amino suppressants? And I consider them far more dangerous. So
what simply is an immune system computer? And the computer
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is logged in improperly. So let's say that you have
a laptop and you bought it. It's ten years old,
five years old, it's not working right. The little wheel
keeps going, going and go, and you're going, maybe I
need a new one. And you hire someone to come
into your house who knows computers better than you. And
what they do is they take out the corruptive programs.
And that's what an allergy is got, the viruses that
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are in the immunes in the computer. I'm not talking
about people viruses or dog viruses. I'm talking about a
program that they're making things work. They throw it in
the trash, they clean out your cookies, clean out your cash,
and suddenly your computer's working great. And that's what I
do with allergy elimination for pets is something that was
used on humans for many, many years, and I originally
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learned it as a human technique which was called nae t.
I learned it forty years ago. It was done all
over the world, all of them very successfully. I'll give
you an example. There was someone in my practice who
treated people and one woman was so allergic to bees
that she have an epinephrine shot that was so huge
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that would stop her heart. So they would roll the
paddles and so there she was ready, you know, bit
by a bee at the hospital. They knew her because
you know, people who were allergic to cats or bees
are always drawn to them, and bit by a bee
more than most. And they had everything ready because they
knew they would have to shock her heart back into
into functioning. And she was treated for bees, not by me,
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but by a human practitioner a few how to be
a few times because she was so allergic, and she'd
have been by bee and sat in front of the
emergency room for five hours and nothing happened. It really
truly works. It's actually an amazing thing. And I've been
doing it for thirty or forty years, and there's actually
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a reason for this, which moves to the level of
physics and moves off of the level of biology, which
is where this is going now. Yeah, yeah, well I
think it's so fascinating. The point you made earlier, I
just want to repeat it, which is, the pharmaceutical industries
have no incentive to cure problems. They have incentives to
maintain problems so that you need to continually refill this prescription.
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So you know, this is why we're in this kind
of catch twenty two situation. You know, I mean the
people living with animals, they see their animals suffering and
they want to fix it right now, you know. They
want something that's going to make that symptoms disappear, and
yet they may be putting themselves into a situation where
it's perpetuating instead of really truly helping or really solving.
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While diet is not the whole issue of this, what
are some of the components of diet that come into
play when you're looking at allergies. Well, doctors get allergic
to late text gloves commonly, and they order text free
gloves because we snap them on all the time, and
we tend to feed dogs the same food all the time,
particularly allergic dogs. So in the old days, when allergies
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weren't as deep seated and weren't as prevalent as they
are now, what would happen is we would take the
veterinarian not knowing why, because the vaccines contain chicken embryos
and bovine serum. That's beef and chicken. The adjuvant, which
an adjuvant in a vaccine works on the immune system,
just as if you had someone in the military getting
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methamphetamines before they went into battle. So it really gends
it up. It starts to react against these food So
they put a dog on lamb and the dog would do, okay, lamb.
I remember when we were kids. They would just do
their thing, and then nine months later the dog would
be itching again because now it had become allergic to
lamb because it was eating it every day. And you
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tend to become allergic or reactive to things that you
are fed all the time. Just sideline this and say
that food sensitivities and food intolerances are fifteen times more
common than food allergies. They are, and they're delayed reactions.
This gets even better. They occur from seven to twenty
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eight days after you feed the food. So wow, I
can on the first of the month and go to
the bank on the fourteenth, and the lady without asking
you slips your dog a little treat in the back seat,
you know, through the window. I can at night, your
dog starts itching that night, you're angry at the lady,
and it's actually the chicken that you said two weeks before.
So the thing is that it's really confusing because you
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don't understand what is really causing that problem. And meanwhile
you're changing foods, running from food to food, and the
minute you land on a food and you think it's good,
you feed it every day because you're so happy things
are better, right, And what happens is eventually they're going
to get reactive to it, either a food sensitivity, a
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food intolerance, or an allergy. Every single person, well not
every single person, but gee, a lot of people because
I see a lot of allergy cases on my consultations.
It feeds their dog fish oils when they're coming to me,
or omega threes because they're home that the omega threes
will help. Well, they will talk about how fish oils
have no omega threes. Yeahzi right.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Plus by the time you get them, they're probably not
bioavailable anyway, Right, they don't live the veryous short shelf life, right,
they're opened. Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
The reason we buy them is because they're so friable,
so fragile to air and light, that they're not in
any of our food. You know, the sermon may have it,
but you cook it and they're gone. So that's why
we buy them. But then they wash the fish oil
and ace the tone and bleach. Think they survive that. No.
(12:22):
I used to. I used to make vitamins, and I
would go to trade shows and there was a bunch
of Norwegian guys with five gallons, you know, tank metal
tanks of omega threes, and so I said to them,
are there really omega threes in there? And they left?
They say, now I knew, They said yeah. Or I said,
so what happens when that drop is suspended in the
air for fraction of a second before it enters the
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gel cap and the gel cap closes? They said, oh,
we're not responsible for that part.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, you have to understand your supplements. There's a company
called Resvantage. It's a very good company make residiratual products.
Whereas there a tool is as friable or all as
fragile as omega threes. And told me he packaged it
at a Pfiser facility, and I said, do you package
an herbit a Ffiser facility? He said, well, when Ffiser
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are bought this company, they inherited this room. We pump
it a fall of nitrogen. We then have everything packaged
in the capsules and they're oxygen resistant capsules, and then
we put them in little pockets that you have to
pop the pill out of, and so everything is surrounded
in nitrogen so that this resva torol is actually active.
And you buy something that's not from this company with
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resdvantage and what happens is you wind up with a
product that's been exposed to the air and there's nothing
left in it. Well, yes, some things like supplements like calcium,
you can do anything to it. Okay, there's not going
to be a problem. But certain things are so delicate,
and Omega threes are one of them. But to get
back to my point, every dog that's on Omega three
fish oil every day is allergic to fish.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Is there taking it?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
No.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I was one of those people who thought the fish
oil we were supposed to get them off and been
off it for a couple of years now. But it's yeah,
we've been sold a bill of goods by a lot
of these products that look good on paper, you know,
like they seem like they would be the things that
we need to do in fact or not. What about
those sardines? Sardines are you know or are are those
are a healthy way of getting those omega threes?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
What would they be? Their process, their package. The minute
that drop of oil goes is suspended for a fraction
of a second, the omega threes are gone. The best
way to get omega threes is chia seeds. You put
a half a cup of chia seeds into a bowl,
and then you had two and a half cups of
something bone brought, chicken broth, something your dog would like.
For people, you put almond milk in you could put
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you know, yogurt, keyfer whatever, liquid, and then you put
it in the fridge. Now, because it's in a liquid,
it doesn't hit the oxygen doesn't. So these little cells sat,
these little these little grains soften and they expand and
so they become a pudding. And then heaping teaspoon on
your tablespoon every day and all everything that's in that
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liquid is all precious and good because it hasn't.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Been exposed to the air. Okay, so expensive, yeah, right.
So the geo seeds that you have in the package,
though you shouldn't be giving them those. Just the geo
seeds by themselves, they get it right, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And if you grind them up in the blender. The
minute you grind them up in the blender, you expose
all the omega threes to air again and they're gone. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Wild stuff. Well, with so much to learn when we
come back, I'd love to hear some stories about some
of the animals that you've worked with and some of
the problems that you were faced and how you found
some solutions for them. Will be right back.
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Speaker 3 (16:59):
Welcome back to The Human Animal Connection where I'm speaking
with veterinarian doctor David Kelsa. She's the author of Natural
Dog and several other books. And we're talking about allergies today.
And I know you get a lot of patients coming
to you with allergy problems that have you know, just
have them been able to find solutions. Walk us through
a little bit about how you would begin to address
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let's say a dog coming in a lot of scratching.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well, first of all, I'd take the history and I'd
look at toxins that the dogs was exposed to. I'd
look at the medical history and things like that, and
then i would look if the dog had a secondary
bacterial infection or had anything on it like that was
this yeast called malassia, which is a dark yeast that
causes a lot of itching too. And then I would
after I took the case, I would move along to
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actually curing it. Now, there are a lot of ways
that people approach allergies. The pharmaceutical industrial complex does suppression.
They suppress the immune system because you can't just fix
it because if you don't, if you just fix it,
you don't have a bottom line far as you know,
money in the company. The other is palliation, and that
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means you find some herb or something that will work
well enough to keep the itching down. And you're constantly
putting topical things on and doing all this stuff so
that your dog isn't itching, and it becomes a lifelong quest,
you know, it's an orm habitual thing every single day
to keep your dog in tow. And the other is avoidance.
You go around, you try to avoid everything, you read labels,
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you try to change food, You do all of this,
and the amusing part is is that a lot of
people buy a lot of supplements, searching online, great reviews,
all of this. Of course, the companies are professionally doing this,
and then they're feeding their dog some sort of over
the counter thing to stop the allergies, and the dog
is allergic to it or becomes allergic to it because
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he's getting it every day. See what? All right? Yeah,
So the thing is that an allergy is a is
a misprogrammed immune system. So how could you possibly fix it?
You know that you don't have to do avoidance, palliation,
constant you know, herbs and things, or suppression, which is
the pharmaceutical drugs, and that is to tell the immune
system that this enemy is actually a friend. You have
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to think about how absurd it is. Imagine five wolves
downing a deer and they run for three hours, and
they catch the deer and one looks at the other
four and says, oh my god, I forgot I'm allergic
to venison. I've got to go. I'm gonna get a rat.
I'm gonna find a red See, guys, is this not
worth Yeah? Those cows that are, you know, grazing in
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the field. And one says say, there, I can't believe
farmer Jones put us in this field. I am allergic
to this grass, right right, But we accept it with
our dogs and we run the hamster wheel, constantly trying
our best to do. We love them so much, we
build up huge veterinary bills. It's a whole thing. So
how do you really fix it? Well, this this lady,
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Davey Nambouja Pot and I can't talk about her too
much because she's in California and her son was an attorney.
But her, her but she developed was so unbelievably successful
that big pharmat in some degree whatever went after her
the fact that it was cutting down on their profits,
and so they had to do it a very specific way.
And I did it in my way for dogs. I
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wasn't going to do it her way for people. It
wasn't going to work. It was years later, thirty years later.
So I said to her son, I'm just going to
trademark it and do it this way. But she was
the one who figured it out, and it was it
was literally by you know, like remember what was just
literally by default. She was eating a carrot. She was
an acupuncturist, a natural path a homeopath. Everything. She was
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passing out from an allergy to it. She hit some
acupuncture points and she woke up feeling you fork and
was no longer allergic. To the carrot, and it began
to do this whole thing and set up a whole process.
So let's look at what really happens because we have
to Really, medicine is moving into the realm of physics,
and so we have to think that way. So DNA
ninety three percent of what it does is to transmit
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and receive frequencies. It's a little antenna, that's all. And
that information gives you or your pet better survival chances.
That's what the point is. So how does a homeopathic
remedy work. Homeopathic remedy has an energetic resonance, and after
the sixth dilution of six C there's no molecule of
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the substance left in it. According to God Joe's number,
there's nothing left. So how does it work? How does
a baby who has one hundred and four fever who
suddenly gets the correct remedy have his fever go down
in ten minutes, becomes totally normal, runs around, it never
happens again. It's because that homeopathic remedy has a resonance,
It has a vibrational frequency, and the DNA picks it up.
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It's sort of like you have a big problem with
your son, let's say, and you don't know what to do,
and you talk to twenty girlfriends. They all give you advice,
but the twentieth one gives you the exact correct advice,
and you go, oh, I'll try that. You try, and
the problem's over. That's correct. Homeopathic remedy does now. Ki
Ning used homeopathy mostly for allergies. I'm verse in twelve
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different modalities at least prolotherapy, Chinese or bology, you know,
on and on and on, and homeopathy worked beautifully. I
actually lectured at my alma mata, the University of Pennsylvania,
on it, and it was great and I had beginner
poker luck when I started it. When I got out
of school. It's like a medical school. I didn't. I
refused because I wanted to be a vet. I waited
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a year to be a vet, and I worked from
the medical and Veterinary school and I studied homeopathy, you know,
on certain nights a week as Philadelphia as a big
homeopathic town. Oh come my got out of school. I
knew homeopathy and I was I figured. The reason I
did it was I figured if I didn't get into
vet school and I had to be a doctor, I'd
be a holistic doctor, and so I was really studying
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with the medical people. But then I began to transfer
it into the animal kingdom. And then I studied all
over the world homeopathy. I studied in India with doctor
MacLeod and George Day. I studied in Brazil. I studied
in India all over and I became awfully good, and
so it was very easy. But as we have generations
and generations of suppressive therapies going on with our dogs,
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what happens is homeopathy wasn't working so well. It was
sort of like a cup of bleach into a dirty pond.
It looked nice and clean there, and he said ooh ooh,
and then it just came back. The dirt came back
where before you poured that same cup of bleation. The
whole pond cleared out. I learned this something called an
at which was phenomenal. And what happened was I began
using it and it was an absolute miracle. You basically
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take the allergic person or the allergic pet, and you
turn them into the not allergic pet. You're just not
allergic to it. It's amazing. But what you're doing is
you're working on energetic frequencies. You're the DNA, which is
really the computer system. It's really what runs the whole thing.
And think of it as an antenna. Think of it
as you know, followers, and you're correcting the whole program.
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And it's so beautiful and it's so easy. You know.
I have someone yesterday who called me her year and
a half old dog was she was from Florida, was
you know, had rashes and itching, and she wanted to
do the allergy elimination for pets. But she had contacted
me before that in two thousand and eighteen or seventeen
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for her other dog who had allergies. She contacted me
when that dog was about three. It contacted me almost
a decade before that for a dog who no longer
was with us, who had terrible allergies, and she had
spent years going to the vet, trying everything, putting them
on everything. Do I mean the whole history, These histories
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are so sad. People care so much. Yeah, you know,
I treated the dog, and the dog everything cleared up
on the dog and it lived to a ripe old
life without ripe old age, without any allergies. So the
second dog, she came when he was three because he
was like two, and the first dog and the third dog,
it was like, we're going there. It is just the
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place to to go to because it is so it
works so well. Yeah, you know, allergies basically, when you
look at the common denominator or a misbehaving immune system,
everything in the work in your body is run by
your DNA. And the new ways of healing in medicine
are now becoming working with light voltage, lots of different
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things that we never thought would be so so healing,
and the advances in these fields are beyond belief.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
That's so exciting. Well, just on a more practical level,
I hear you saying that we should be rotating the
proteins that were giving the animals, not giving them the
same protein every day. Is that correct? Is that one
of the better that's a better way to do it. Yeah, yeah, okay, great.
And as what are some of the other suggestions that
people can do. I know you do consultations, people can
(25:49):
get in touch with you, but what can they do
right now? What are some of the things that they
should stop doing or they can begin doing if they're
dealing with some of these issues.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Well, allergies when you see a case for allergies. The
dog could have malasesia, which is a smelly yeast. It
causes a dark substance in the ear and people think
it's dark wax and it's not. It's a yeast called malaxesia,
and it loves oil, it loves fat. It's not candia.
It doesn't love carbs. So a lot of people put
their dogs on a no carb diet because somebody cut
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and paste some veternarian cut and pasted candida into malasesia.
But they're completely different yeasts. One's white, one's black. One
likes carbs, one hates carbs, likes oil. So you make
sure that there's not stuff on your dogs skin that's
increasing the itching. A lot of times, we have these
very nice enzymatic shampoos that can work well to remove
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yeast from your dog skin. You have to make sure
that the ears are clear and free of infection, because
the dog's ear is very deep, and people think when
it comes up the drain and comes so far up
that your flash like can see that stuff in the drain,
that's when they have the ear infection. It's actually down
by the eew of the drain, and so they look
that he gives them some ointment, squirched it in the
(27:02):
ear for two weeks. You look in the ear and
you go, wow, that ear is pink and healthy and nice.
But the fact is you're only the dog's ear. It
looks like this. This is where you can see down
to your thumb of your the base of your thumbnail.
That's where you can see zero goes all the way
down here and all the way across there. And so
you think it's good and you're happy, and two months
later you're back at the vet saying the ear infection
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came back. It actually didn't come back. It never went away.
It was down there in the bottom of the drain,
and it took some time for it to just grow
back up. You just got the top of it. So
you really have to handle things completely. Now you can
put your animal on a novel protein. But I have
found that most dogs and cats are not allergic to
one thing. They're not could just be for just chicken.
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Their allergies have expanded and developed over time. So you know,
they could be allergic to B vitamins, which are in
everything because there's Brewer regised in those, you know, in
the vaccines, and they can be allergic to you know,
fish if they're getting fish oil all the time. They
can be allergic to the supplements that they're giving on
the counter to fix the allergies. So the basic thing
(28:09):
is to keep the diet as simple as possible and
keep them on a novel protein. Now there's a company
called rain Nutrition are a Y n E nutrition and
you need a script to get these foods. But they'll
have rabbit, and they'll have crocodile. I don't know how
I could buy that, and they'll have kangaroo. I don't
know how I could buy that. But the thing is
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they have. Those are novel proteins for dogs that are
having problems. There are many different tests online that people
can take, and the vast majority except for one which
only tests for food food sensitivities and intolerance and does
not test for food allergies. And that's a veterinarian who
(28:51):
does that test, but she's testing IgM and IgA. But
they're they're completely inadequate. So thinking that you can take
one of these tests and change the foods actually so bogus.
People have always done them. It's very common, and they're
so convinced now that they look at this piece of
paper that their dog is reacting to these things, that
it's embedded in their mind. So to tell them, you
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need to photocopy that test that you got, and then
you need to stand in front of the toilet with
the scissors, and I want you to cut it up
into really little pieces and put it in there and
flush it. Doesn't convince you that nothing on the test
is real. I mean maybe a few things are, but
you wouldn't know which ones. Then you take the eighty
five dollars in singles that you paid for it. I
want you to get scissors and cut that up and
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flush it. So a lot of people are getting these
tests and going by them as if they were serious tests,
and they're absolutely not. I mean, the dog is allergic
to trout, but it's not allergic to cod. It's allergic
to haddock. But you follow what I'm saying, But yes, yeah,
it's ludicrous. It's allergic to these unbelievably strang a kiwi fruit.
You know, like, is it follow what I'm saying? Yeah? Yeah,
(29:58):
And the hamster wheel is so much more than what
you think about in the beginning when we talk about it.
It's not only all the supplements on the counter, and
some of them your dog is going to be having
reactions to. It's not only these lists of things that
you're purchasing and avoiding. It's not only reading all the
dog food labels and then searching the web for something
(30:19):
that has great reviews. It's actually you know, so if
you have wool in your house, it wll's a big
allergen for dogs. Well, well's a big allergen. That's a
good tip. It's really big. If you have wool and
you have a dog that's itching a lot, itching, itching, itching,
and it causes a terrible reaction. Their whole body looks terrible.
It's the wool. I have people that call me from Norway.
(30:43):
They have sheepspins all over New Zealand. They have sheeps
all over you know, these different places, and the dogs
really loves sleeping on those sheepskins. Scratch and wolves a
big allergen. So they're never just allergic to one food
and they're just allergic to one environmental substance. You have
to think of it like like an iceberg in the
(31:04):
in the ocean. This iceberg is in the ocean and
it's gonna it's under the surface. So you can't see,
you know, but on the bottom of it are all
the foods the dog or cat is reactive to, and
on the top are all the environmental things the dog
active to. And so when they pile up enough and
you get to that straw that broke the camel's back
it through the surface of the ocean, that's when the
(31:26):
scratching starts, and that's when everything kicks in. Yeah, log
is never just allergic to a flea, okay, a whole
bunch of things underneath, and it's and it's when you
there are people who say, I know, my dog only
has environmental allergies because the only itches in the spring
and fall. And the fact is that it's only because
the spring and the fall pollens and molds or whatever
(31:48):
push that above the threshold, right right, that's when the
itching starts. But it's a low level allergy going on,
and that causes a chronic inflammation in the body. And
actually balance is the entire immune system.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Well, this has been an absolutely fascinating conversation. We're going
to have to have you on again because I know
we're just scratching the surface here. To use a terrible pun,
but doctor David Calsa, author of The Natural Dog and
several other books. How can people find you if they'd
want to get.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
In touch, Well, my side is doctor Dava dot com,
d oc t r d e va dot com. That's
number one, number two. I have all kinds of free videos,
all kinds of articles, and all kinds of information. I'm
making a slew more of video specifically on allergies because
I really feel that it's become such a problem and
(32:36):
that people really need to learn the logistics of it
so they can have a break in life and have
a healthy dog. Great.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Well, thank you so much for the great work that
you're doing, and thank you for being a guest on
The Human Animal Connection. We'll be talking to you again.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Very soon, my pleasure. It was wonderful being here with you.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
We'll say bye for now and we'll see you at
the next episode. I'm Jeanie Joseph, the host of The
Human Animal Connection.
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hello everyone, welcome to the Human Animal Connection Podcast. I'm
your host and the executive director of the Human Animal Connection.
I am so excited to speak to doctor David Talsa.
She is not only a veterinarian, but she is a
holistic veterinarian. She has over thirty years of wellness practices acupuncture, homeopathy,
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so she brings the best of both worlds. And I
know we're going to answer some questions that a lot
of our listeners have about allergies and the animals they
share their lives with. This is a question that confounds
many people, and many veterinarians are kind of throwing up
their hands. They don't know what to do next. So
I know you've got some wonderful solutions. Now, Doctor Calso
(01:17):
has written several books, including this one. You can see
all my notes in it. Doctor Kelsa's Natural Dog, and
it's all about holistic therapies and nutrition for healthier animals.
So doctor Calsa, thank you so much for being our
guest today.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Oh it's my absolute pleasure. We're going to have a
good time and also your listeners are really going to
learn quite a lot because yeah, I know, no, we're
running the hamster wheel of allergies. If constant, you know,
they're checking dog food, they're worrying about this. They're taking
all these tests and a lot of them are bogus,
and then they're avoiding foods that don't make any difference
and feeding foods that aren't correct. And it's not about food,
(01:53):
it's really about the immune system. And we're going to
learn a lot. So where shall I start.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Let's start with the immune syste explain how the immune
system and allergies work together perfect.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
The immune system is a computer. So when you get
your POLO shot when you're a kid, you're good for
life because your immune system remembers that it's an enemy. Right.
Your immune system logs in friends and enemies, and it
does it in a way that is very concrete and
it's very very how can I say, set up not
to make mistakes? Right? When you get vaccinations that have
(02:28):
adjuvants which are aluminum and foods and different things, and
then it causes the body to start to become more
reactive to foods in different things, and it starts almost
a computer program, like a corrupted computer program in the
pet's body. And that corrupted computer program. If there's only
a few things, you do not going to see anything.
But if there's enough, you're going to start to see
(02:49):
the symptoms of allergies in your dog. And typically they
present as GI problems which they can't tell very foods.
They have lots of different forms of GI distress and
also itching and scratching their skin. So what's happening, you know,
with this immune system? Why is this happening and why
is it working this way? And we have so many
(03:10):
generations of dogs in which allergies are present that everyone
gets used to it and they think it's normal, and
they run the Empster wheel of checking everything out the food,
that this, that, that, running to the vet all the
time for secondary yeast infections, secondary bacterial infections. And then
what happens is they just get so used to it
(03:30):
it becomes their entire life, I mean their entire life,
taking anything that's problematic out of the house. You know,
it's a whole thing. So that's the real problem. The
real problem is the computer program that the immune system
is logged in where it's certain things are enemies and
certain things we're friends. Makes sense, Yes, absolutely, Pharmaceutical companies
(03:51):
work to Pharmaceutical companies don't make money. If they are
going to cure something, they won't make me. You have
to have re So what they do, because the immune
system is misbehaving analogies is whack them all the immune system.
They knock it down and make it non functional. Then
you have to keep giving the medicine and giving the medicine.
And with generations of dogs having these problems, it's gotten
(04:14):
so that more and more dogs have allergies. I have
a book called The Allergic Pet, ending the Epidemic of
Pet Allergies, and that's my most recent book. And the
thing is is that you're just making the problem worse
because then the babies get very allergic. Let's say you're
showing dogs and you're going to breed them, and you
can't have that hot spot right before they're going to
(04:34):
get titled. You give them oppressive allergy drug. If they
get a little bit of allergies, then you take them,
you know, then you read them, and then you tell
the puppies it's a it's a downward spiral that we're
and it has to stop.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And it's actually very easy to treat, very Okay, Okay,
Now you've been in this field for quite a long time.
Is the situation getting better or worse? Would you say overall?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Oh? Way worse? What I would Actually I'd been to
that for forty three years.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Okay, So I think you've seen things get a lot worse.
I mean, I think if we go back to say,
our grandparents' dogs and we were not seeing this kind yeah,
we didn't see this kind of itching and digestive disorders
and all of this kind of stuff. So clearly the
situation is getting a lot worse. So what are some
of the things that you tell your clients to start doing.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, Actually, I find out what the immune system is
reacting incorrectly to, I make them up a program, and
on the level of physics, I correct it. So this
is going to get a little esoteric. But let me
just explain something so that people can sort of have
a feel for how it all works. We have mass
cells around our eyes and they produce histamine, and that
(05:46):
histamine is very, very itchy and makes us scratch, makes
us itch causes inflammation. So with rablee, you know, we
rub our eyes, Our eyes get puffy, our eyes get hot.
Dogs have those same mass cells and ten times the
concentration on their bodies. We're set up like dogs. And
we had ragweed allergies, we'd be scratching our date tlutage bloody,
we'd be chewing our arms, we'd be scratching our butts.
(06:07):
You see, not what dogs do, and yet scratch itch cycle,
which is the mosquito bite I call it the mosquito
bite syndrome. Your mother says, if you keep scratching that
mosquito bute, you're only going to scratch more. Right. What
happens is the dog starts chewing and then it choose
more and to choose more. But because the area is
warm and moist, secondary bacterial infections yeast infections, a yeast
(06:29):
called maladesia can take play and it becomes a never
ending cycle of antibiotics and amino suppressants, and a lot
of people are very familiar with that. And the pharmaceutical
companies are coming up, would they consider better and better
amino suppressants? And I consider them far more dangerous. So
what simply is an immune system computer? And the computer
(06:50):
is logged in improperly. So let's say that you have
a laptop and you bought it. It's ten years old,
five years old, it's not working right. The little wheel
keeps going, going and go, and you're going, maybe I
need a new one. And you hire someone to come
into your house who knows computers better than you. And
what they do is they take out the corruptive programs.
And that's what an allergy is got, the viruses that
(07:13):
are in the immunes in the computer. I'm not talking
about people viruses or dog viruses. I'm talking about a
program that they're making things work. They throw it in
the trash, they clean out your cookies, clean out your cash,
and suddenly your computer's working great. And that's what I
do with allergy elimination for pets is something that was
used on humans for many, many years, and I originally
(07:35):
learned it as a human technique which was called nae t.
I learned it forty years ago. It was done all
over the world, all of them very successfully. I'll give
you an example. There was someone in my practice who
treated people and one woman was so allergic to bees
that she have an epinephrine shot that was so huge
(07:57):
that would stop her heart. So they would roll the
paddles and so there she was ready, you know, bit
by a bee at the hospital. They knew her because
you know, people who were allergic to cats or bees
are always drawn to them, and bit by a bee
more than most. And they had everything ready because they
knew they would have to shock her heart back into
into functioning. And she was treated for bees, not by me,
(08:18):
but by a human practitioner a few how to be
a few times because she was so allergic, and she'd
have been by bee and sat in front of the
emergency room for five hours and nothing happened. It really
truly works. It's actually an amazing thing. And I've been
doing it for thirty or forty years, and there's actually
(08:38):
a reason for this, which moves to the level of
physics and moves off of the level of biology, which
is where this is going now. Yeah, yeah, well I
think it's so fascinating. The point you made earlier, I
just want to repeat it, which is, the pharmaceutical industries
have no incentive to cure problems. They have incentives to
maintain problems so that you need to continually refill this prescription.
(09:00):
So you know, this is why we're in this kind
of catch twenty two situation. You know, I mean the
people living with animals, they see their animals suffering and
they want to fix it right now, you know. They
want something that's going to make that symptoms disappear, and
yet they may be putting themselves into a situation where
it's perpetuating instead of really truly helping or really solving.
(09:21):
While diet is not the whole issue of this, what
are some of the components of diet that come into
play when you're looking at allergies. Well, doctors get allergic
to late text gloves commonly, and they order text free
gloves because we snap them on all the time, and
we tend to feed dogs the same food all the time,
particularly allergic dogs. So in the old days, when allergies
(09:42):
weren't as deep seated and weren't as prevalent as they
are now, what would happen is we would take the
veterinarian not knowing why, because the vaccines contain chicken embryos
and bovine serum. That's beef and chicken. The adjuvant, which
an adjuvant in a vaccine works on the immune system,
just as if you had someone in the military getting
(10:02):
methamphetamines before they went into battle. So it really gends
it up. It starts to react against these food So
they put a dog on lamb and the dog would do, okay, lamb.
I remember when we were kids. They would just do
their thing, and then nine months later the dog would
be itching again because now it had become allergic to
lamb because it was eating it every day. And you
(10:24):
tend to become allergic or reactive to things that you
are fed all the time. Just sideline this and say
that food sensitivities and food intolerances are fifteen times more
common than food allergies. They are, and they're delayed reactions.
This gets even better. They occur from seven to twenty
(10:46):
eight days after you feed the food. So wow, I
can on the first of the month and go to
the bank on the fourteenth, and the lady without asking
you slips your dog a little treat in the back seat,
you know, through the window. I can at night, your
dog starts itching that night, you're angry at the lady,
and it's actually the chicken that you said two weeks before.
So the thing is that it's really confusing because you
(11:09):
don't understand what is really causing that problem. And meanwhile
you're changing foods, running from food to food, and the
minute you land on a food and you think it's good,
you feed it every day because you're so happy things
are better, right, And what happens is eventually they're going
to get reactive to it, either a food sensitivity, a
(11:29):
food intolerance, or an allergy. Every single person, well not
every single person, but gee, a lot of people because
I see a lot of allergy cases on my consultations.
It feeds their dog fish oils when they're coming to me,
or omega threes because they're home that the omega threes
will help. Well, they will talk about how fish oils
have no omega threes. Yeahzi right.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Plus by the time you get them, they're probably not
bioavailable anyway, Right, they don't live the veryous short shelf life, right,
they're opened. Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
The reason we buy them is because they're so friable,
so fragile to air and light, that they're not in
any of our food. You know, the sermon may have it,
but you cook it and they're gone. So that's why
we buy them. But then they wash the fish oil
and ace the tone and bleach. Think they survive that. No.
(12:22):
I used to. I used to make vitamins, and I
would go to trade shows and there was a bunch
of Norwegian guys with five gallons, you know, tank metal
tanks of omega threes, and so I said to them,
are there really omega threes in there? And they left?
They say, now I knew, They said yeah. Or I said,
so what happens when that drop is suspended in the
air for fraction of a second before it enters the
(12:44):
gel cap and the gel cap closes? They said, oh,
we're not responsible for that part.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, you have to understand your supplements. There's a company
called Resvantage. It's a very good company make residiratual products.
Whereas there a tool is as friable or all as
fragile as omega threes. And told me he packaged it
at a Pfiser facility, and I said, do you package
an herbit a Ffiser facility? He said, well, when Ffiser
(13:10):
are bought this company, they inherited this room. We pump
it a fall of nitrogen. We then have everything packaged
in the capsules and they're oxygen resistant capsules, and then
we put them in little pockets that you have to
pop the pill out of, and so everything is surrounded
in nitrogen so that this resva torol is actually active.
And you buy something that's not from this company with
(13:32):
resdvantage and what happens is you wind up with a
product that's been exposed to the air and there's nothing
left in it. Well, yes, some things like supplements like calcium,
you can do anything to it. Okay, there's not going
to be a problem. But certain things are so delicate,
and Omega threes are one of them. But to get
back to my point, every dog that's on Omega three
fish oil every day is allergic to fish.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Is there taking it?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
No.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I was one of those people who thought the fish
oil we were supposed to get them off and been
off it for a couple of years now. But it's yeah,
we've been sold a bill of goods by a lot
of these products that look good on paper, you know,
like they seem like they would be the things that
we need to do in fact or not. What about
those sardines? Sardines are you know or are are those
are a healthy way of getting those omega threes?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
What would they be? Their process, their package. The minute
that drop of oil goes is suspended for a fraction
of a second, the omega threes are gone. The best
way to get omega threes is chia seeds. You put
a half a cup of chia seeds into a bowl,
and then you had two and a half cups of
something bone brought, chicken broth, something your dog would like.
For people, you put almond milk in you could put
(14:40):
you know, yogurt, keyfer whatever, liquid, and then you put
it in the fridge. Now, because it's in a liquid,
it doesn't hit the oxygen doesn't. So these little cells sat,
these little these little grains soften and they expand and
so they become a pudding. And then heaping teaspoon on
your tablespoon every day and all everything that's in that
(15:02):
liquid is all precious and good because it hasn't.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Been exposed to the air. Okay, so expensive, yeah, right.
So the geo seeds that you have in the package,
though you shouldn't be giving them those. Just the geo
seeds by themselves, they get it right, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And if you grind them up in the blender. The
minute you grind them up in the blender, you expose
all the omega threes to air again and they're gone. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Wild stuff. Well, with so much to learn when we
come back, I'd love to hear some stories about some
of the animals that you've worked with and some of
the problems that you were faced and how you found
some solutions for them. Will be right back.
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Speaker 3 (16:59):
Welcome back to The Human Animal Connection where I'm speaking
with veterinarian doctor David Kelsa. She's the author of Natural
Dog and several other books. And we're talking about allergies today.
And I know you get a lot of patients coming
to you with allergy problems that have you know, just
have them been able to find solutions. Walk us through
a little bit about how you would begin to address
(17:19):
let's say a dog coming in a lot of scratching.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well, first of all, I'd take the history and I'd
look at toxins that the dogs was exposed to. I'd
look at the medical history and things like that, and
then i would look if the dog had a secondary
bacterial infection or had anything on it like that was
this yeast called malassia, which is a dark yeast that
causes a lot of itching too. And then I would
after I took the case, I would move along to
(17:44):
actually curing it. Now, there are a lot of ways
that people approach allergies. The pharmaceutical industrial complex does suppression.
They suppress the immune system because you can't just fix
it because if you don't, if you just fix it,
you don't have a bottom line far as you know,
money in the company. The other is palliation, and that
(18:04):
means you find some herb or something that will work
well enough to keep the itching down. And you're constantly
putting topical things on and doing all this stuff so
that your dog isn't itching, and it becomes a lifelong quest,
you know, it's an orm habitual thing every single day
to keep your dog in tow. And the other is avoidance.
You go around, you try to avoid everything, you read labels,
(18:25):
you try to change food, You do all of this,
and the amusing part is is that a lot of
people buy a lot of supplements, searching online, great reviews,
all of this. Of course, the companies are professionally doing this,
and then they're feeding their dog some sort of over
the counter thing to stop the allergies, and the dog
is allergic to it or becomes allergic to it because
(18:46):
he's getting it every day. See what? All right? Yeah,
So the thing is that an allergy is a is
a misprogrammed immune system. So how could you possibly fix it?
You know that you don't have to do avoidance, palliation,
constant you know, herbs and things, or suppression, which is
the pharmaceutical drugs, and that is to tell the immune
system that this enemy is actually a friend. You have
(19:10):
to think about how absurd it is. Imagine five wolves
downing a deer and they run for three hours, and
they catch the deer and one looks at the other
four and says, oh my god, I forgot I'm allergic
to venison. I've got to go. I'm gonna get a rat.
I'm gonna find a red See, guys, is this not
worth Yeah? Those cows that are, you know, grazing in
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the field. And one says say, there, I can't believe
farmer Jones put us in this field. I am allergic
to this grass, right right, But we accept it with
our dogs and we run the hamster wheel, constantly trying
our best to do. We love them so much, we
build up huge veterinary bills. It's a whole thing. So
how do you really fix it? Well, this this lady,
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Davey Nambouja Pot and I can't talk about her too
much because she's in California and her son was an attorney.
But her, her but she developed was so unbelievably successful
that big pharmat in some degree whatever went after her
the fact that it was cutting down on their profits,
and so they had to do it a very specific way.
And I did it in my way for dogs. I
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wasn't going to do it her way for people. It
wasn't going to work. It was years later, thirty years later.
So I said to her son, I'm just going to
trademark it and do it this way. But she was
the one who figured it out, and it was it
was literally by you know, like remember what was just
literally by default. She was eating a carrot. She was
an acupuncturist, a natural path a homeopath. Everything. She was
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passing out from an allergy to it. She hit some
acupuncture points and she woke up feeling you fork and
was no longer allergic. To the carrot, and it began
to do this whole thing and set up a whole process.
So let's look at what really happens because we have
to Really, medicine is moving into the realm of physics,
and so we have to think that way. So DNA
ninety three percent of what it does is to transmit
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and receive frequencies. It's a little antenna, that's all. And
that information gives you or your pet better survival chances.
That's what the point is. So how does a homeopathic
remedy work. Homeopathic remedy has an energetic resonance, and after
the sixth dilution of six C there's no molecule of
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the substance left in it. According to God Joe's number,
there's nothing left. So how does it work? How does
a baby who has one hundred and four fever who
suddenly gets the correct remedy have his fever go down
in ten minutes, becomes totally normal, runs around, it never
happens again. It's because that homeopathic remedy has a resonance,
It has a vibrational frequency, and the DNA picks it up.
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It's sort of like you have a big problem with
your son, let's say, and you don't know what to do,
and you talk to twenty girlfriends. They all give you advice,
but the twentieth one gives you the exact correct advice,
and you go, oh, I'll try that. You try, and
the problem's over. That's correct. Homeopathic remedy does now. Ki
Ning used homeopathy mostly for allergies. I'm verse in twelve
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different modalities at least prolotherapy, Chinese or bology, you know,
on and on and on, and homeopathy worked beautifully. I
actually lectured at my alma mata, the University of Pennsylvania,
on it, and it was great and I had beginner
poker luck when I started it. When I got out
of school. It's like a medical school. I didn't. I
refused because I wanted to be a vet. I waited
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a year to be a vet, and I worked from
the medical and Veterinary school and I studied homeopathy, you know,
on certain nights a week as Philadelphia as a big
homeopathic town. Oh come my got out of school. I
knew homeopathy and I was I figured. The reason I
did it was I figured if I didn't get into
vet school and I had to be a doctor, I'd
be a holistic doctor, and so I was really studying
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with the medical people. But then I began to transfer
it into the animal kingdom. And then I studied all
over the world homeopathy. I studied in India with doctor
MacLeod and George Day. I studied in Brazil. I studied
in India all over and I became awfully good, and
so it was very easy. But as we have generations
and generations of suppressive therapies going on with our dogs,
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what happens is homeopathy wasn't working so well. It was
sort of like a cup of bleach into a dirty pond.
It looked nice and clean there, and he said ooh ooh,
and then it just came back. The dirt came back
where before you poured that same cup of bleation. The
whole pond cleared out. I learned this something called an
at which was phenomenal. And what happened was I began
using it and it was an absolute miracle. You basically
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take the allergic person or the allergic pet, and you
turn them into the not allergic pet. You're just not
allergic to it. It's amazing. But what you're doing is
you're working on energetic frequencies. You're the DNA, which is
really the computer system. It's really what runs the whole thing.
And think of it as an antenna. Think of it
as you know, followers, and you're correcting the whole program.
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And it's so beautiful and it's so easy. You know.
I have someone yesterday who called me her year and
a half old dog was she was from Florida, was
you know, had rashes and itching, and she wanted to
do the allergy elimination for pets. But she had contacted
me before that in two thousand and eighteen or seventeen
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for her other dog who had allergies. She contacted me
when that dog was about three. It contacted me almost
a decade before that for a dog who no longer
was with us, who had terrible allergies, and she had
spent years going to the vet, trying everything, putting them
on everything. Do I mean the whole history, These histories
(24:37):
are so sad. People care so much. Yeah, you know,
I treated the dog, and the dog everything cleared up
on the dog and it lived to a ripe old
life without ripe old age, without any allergies. So the
second dog, she came when he was three because he
was like two, and the first dog and the third dog,
it was like, we're going there. It is just the
(24:59):
place to to go to because it is so it
works so well. Yeah, you know, allergies basically, when you
look at the common denominator or a misbehaving immune system,
everything in the work in your body is run by
your DNA. And the new ways of healing in medicine
are now becoming working with light voltage, lots of different
(25:20):
things that we never thought would be so so healing,
and the advances in these fields are beyond belief.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
That's so exciting. Well, just on a more practical level,
I hear you saying that we should be rotating the
proteins that were giving the animals, not giving them the
same protein every day. Is that correct? Is that one
of the better that's a better way to do it. Yeah, yeah, okay, great.
And as what are some of the other suggestions that
people can do. I know you do consultations, people can
(25:49):
get in touch with you, but what can they do
right now? What are some of the things that they
should stop doing or they can begin doing if they're
dealing with some of these issues.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Well, allergies when you see a case for allergies. The
dog could have malasesia, which is a smelly yeast. It
causes a dark substance in the ear and people think
it's dark wax and it's not. It's a yeast called malaxesia,
and it loves oil, it loves fat. It's not candia.
It doesn't love carbs. So a lot of people put
their dogs on a no carb diet because somebody cut
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and paste some veternarian cut and pasted candida into malasesia.
But they're completely different yeasts. One's white, one's black. One
likes carbs, one hates carbs, likes oil. So you make
sure that there's not stuff on your dogs skin that's
increasing the itching. A lot of times, we have these
very nice enzymatic shampoos that can work well to remove
(26:41):
yeast from your dog skin. You have to make sure
that the ears are clear and free of infection, because
the dog's ear is very deep, and people think when
it comes up the drain and comes so far up
that your flash like can see that stuff in the drain,
that's when they have the ear infection. It's actually down
by the eew of the drain, and so they look
that he gives them some ointment, squirched it in the
(27:02):
ear for two weeks. You look in the ear and
you go, wow, that ear is pink and healthy and nice.
But the fact is you're only the dog's ear. It
looks like this. This is where you can see down
to your thumb of your the base of your thumbnail.
That's where you can see zero goes all the way
down here and all the way across there. And so
you think it's good and you're happy, and two months
later you're back at the vet saying the ear infection
(27:23):
came back. It actually didn't come back. It never went away.
It was down there in the bottom of the drain,
and it took some time for it to just grow
back up. You just got the top of it. So
you really have to handle things completely. Now you can
put your animal on a novel protein. But I have
found that most dogs and cats are not allergic to
one thing. They're not could just be for just chicken.
(27:47):
Their allergies have expanded and developed over time. So you know,
they could be allergic to B vitamins, which are in
everything because there's Brewer regised in those, you know, in
the vaccines, and they can be allergic to you know,
fish if they're getting fish oil all the time. They
can be allergic to the supplements that they're giving on
the counter to fix the allergies. So the basic thing
(28:09):
is to keep the diet as simple as possible and
keep them on a novel protein. Now there's a company
called rain Nutrition are a Y n E nutrition and
you need a script to get these foods. But they'll
have rabbit, and they'll have crocodile. I don't know how
I could buy that, and they'll have kangaroo. I don't
know how I could buy that. But the thing is
(28:30):
they have. Those are novel proteins for dogs that are
having problems. There are many different tests online that people
can take, and the vast majority except for one which
only tests for food food sensitivities and intolerance and does
not test for food allergies. And that's a veterinarian who
(28:51):
does that test, but she's testing IgM and IgA. But
they're they're completely inadequate. So thinking that you can take
one of these tests and change the foods actually so bogus.
People have always done them. It's very common, and they're
so convinced now that they look at this piece of
paper that their dog is reacting to these things, that
it's embedded in their mind. So to tell them, you
(29:11):
need to photocopy that test that you got, and then
you need to stand in front of the toilet with
the scissors, and I want you to cut it up
into really little pieces and put it in there and
flush it. Doesn't convince you that nothing on the test
is real. I mean maybe a few things are, but
you wouldn't know which ones. Then you take the eighty
five dollars in singles that you paid for it. I
want you to get scissors and cut that up and
(29:33):
flush it. So a lot of people are getting these
tests and going by them as if they were serious tests,
and they're absolutely not. I mean, the dog is allergic
to trout, but it's not allergic to cod. It's allergic
to haddock. But you follow what I'm saying, But yes, yeah,
it's ludicrous. It's allergic to these unbelievably strang a kiwi fruit.
You know, like, is it follow what I'm saying? Yeah? Yeah,
(29:58):
And the hamster wheel is so much more than what
you think about in the beginning when we talk about it.
It's not only all the supplements on the counter, and
some of them your dog is going to be having
reactions to. It's not only these lists of things that
you're purchasing and avoiding. It's not only reading all the
dog food labels and then searching the web for something
(30:19):
that has great reviews. It's actually you know, so if
you have wool in your house, it wll's a big
allergen for dogs. Well, well's a big allergen. That's a
good tip. It's really big. If you have wool and
you have a dog that's itching a lot, itching, itching, itching,
and it causes a terrible reaction. Their whole body looks terrible.
It's the wool. I have people that call me from Norway.
(30:43):
They have sheepspins all over New Zealand. They have sheeps
all over you know, these different places, and the dogs
really loves sleeping on those sheepskins. Scratch and wolves a
big allergen. So they're never just allergic to one food
and they're just allergic to one environmental substance. You have
to think of it like like an iceberg in the
(31:04):
in the ocean. This iceberg is in the ocean and
it's gonna it's under the surface. So you can't see,
you know, but on the bottom of it are all
the foods the dog or cat is reactive to, and
on the top are all the environmental things the dog
active to. And so when they pile up enough and
you get to that straw that broke the camel's back
it through the surface of the ocean, that's when the
(31:26):
scratching starts, and that's when everything kicks in. Yeah, log
is never just allergic to a flea, okay, a whole
bunch of things underneath, and it's and it's when you
there are people who say, I know, my dog only
has environmental allergies because the only itches in the spring
and fall. And the fact is that it's only because
the spring and the fall pollens and molds or whatever
(31:48):
push that above the threshold, right right, that's when the
itching starts. But it's a low level allergy going on,
and that causes a chronic inflammation in the body. And
actually balance is the entire immune system.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Well, this has been an absolutely fascinating conversation. We're going
to have to have you on again because I know
we're just scratching the surface here. To use a terrible pun,
but doctor David Calsa, author of The Natural Dog and
several other books. How can people find you if they'd
want to get.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
In touch, Well, my side is doctor Dava dot com,
d oc t r d e va dot com. That's
number one, number two. I have all kinds of free videos,
all kinds of articles, and all kinds of information. I'm
making a slew more of video specifically on allergies because
I really feel that it's become such a problem and
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that people really need to learn the logistics of it
so they can have a break in life and have
a healthy dog. Great.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Well, thank you so much for the great work that
you're doing, and thank you for being a guest on
The Human Animal Connection. We'll be talking to you again.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Very soon, my pleasure. It was wonderful being here with you.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
We'll say bye for now and we'll see you at
the next episode. I'm Jeanie Joseph, the host of The
Human Animal Connection.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Buy for now.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
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