#067 - Ashton Oborn | Fog, Bugles and Redemption - The Hunt Stealth Podcast

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You're listening to the Hunt Stealth Podcast with Ryan
Uffins, the podcast where we dive head first into the wild,
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the untamed. Together, we'll explore the
strategies and stories that leadto success in the great
outdoors. Hey guys, welcome to another

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episode of the Hunt Stealth Podcast.
I am Ryan up and excited to haveAshton Oborn on the podcast
today. Ashton, we first met at the Hunt
Expo in person. We, we, we had, we had met on
the socials before that. And I think the initial
introduction came because I think you were spying on some of

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Dustin's hunting locations that look very similar to some of
yours. You know what?
Yeah. It's like, oh, that looks really
similar to mine. I might as well just reach out
to him and say, hey, you know, Ithink that's the same area.
Send me a location and we'll just go from there kind of
thing. But Nah, no, that you're right.

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I know I was. I was thinking back today, I'm
like, I don't know. I don't remember how I followed
you or started following you. I, I, I'm guessing Dustin maybe
had reached out. I know he'd been doing some of
that on on his social. He's got a pretty decent
following in the outdoor huntingspace, so I'm guessing that's

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probably how the connection camethrough there.
But. It was fun.
It was fun. I'm glad that you you saw us as
we were coming. I think we're coming down the
escalator or something. You're like, hey, and.
Yeah, you were talking to PSC orPSC?
Yeah, Trevor. Trevor Thompson and Josh Evans.

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Yeah, you were talking to those guys.
Yeah, yeah, those guys, they're good dudes.
A matter of fact, I'm going to do another podcast here with
Trevor pretty soon. We're going to talk about the
politics of hunting here in the state and how how that's
changing. But so after after you and
Dustin got to talking, kind of figuring out what was going on,

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we made the connection. And then this year we were able
to get out on the mountain for acouple days together.
Yeah, so great time. Yeah, we, we, we gave it a
whirl, man. That was, that was, that was
fun. When when we went out, it was
when you were there. You got there a day before
Dustin and I showed up and you got hit with that storm that

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came through. What, what was that like?
So. Headed up there, I was driving
up there after work and everything and I could see there
was a bunch of clouds obviously in the distance of like, oh man,
there's been some weather. If anybody obviously people that
are listening to this podcast know weather and elk just makes

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a good combination. Got up there it was super muddy
and I was like oh crap like Dustin and talked about bringing
this trailer up. I was like.
It got a little, it got a littleWestern when we got up there.
And then it was like hey, you know you jumped in you took care
of it and got her done. But no it was good.

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It was there was a lot of rain the day before morning or the
1st morning that I was able to hunt was amazing.
Heard some bugles went in after some milk.
Morning was nice. It was nice and cold.
Sun comes out and I just was like, oh, this is nice, This is

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nice and warm. And then I'm on my way back in
to camp and I can just feel the storm coming.
Like I can look up, I see the clouds.
I'm like oh crap, this is. As Dustin and I were driving in,
we were looking, I was like, we matter of fact Dust and I were
on the phone. We're like, he's like, man, I
hope it's not dumping on Ashton up there.

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So I get back to camp, I'm like,oh, these guys are probably
going to be getting here soon. So I'm going to head down off
the mountain to where we plan tocamp and all of a sudden I've
only had. Tent city, right?
Yes, exactly. Yeah, I'm like sitting here.
I'm like, OK, fog rolls in and I'm.

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I haven't seen the fog this bad like ever up there.
So I'm driving down. You drove it.
You saw there's big switchbacks with 1000 plus feet, cliffs off
the one side. So it's like, oh, I better go
slow. I don't want any truck to come
up and one of us turn off and bump off of here.

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Yeah, well, I would say if you're coming around that corner
and the fog and rain and muddy like it is, if you're going to
hit each other, just hit each other, Don't try and.
Swear it out the way, right? Seriously, I.
That that drop is is pretty gnarly.
And it's straight, yeah. I mean, it's like it's straight
down so. Oh yeah.
It's so, yeah, that fog, you were saying it came in like you

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couldn't see anything. I can probably see 10 yards in
front of my car and well, luckily enough, like after you
come up from that, that big turn, that big corner that you
could do, we were talking about it gets up kind of into the more
flatter section up there. And I came around the corner and

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there was a truck sitting there coming my way.
And I was like, oh crap. Like if you're moving, 10 yards
is not far at all. So.
So how long have you been hunting up at your family?
How long has your family been hunting up there?
So my dad was the like, obviously the, my dad's a first

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generation hunter of his family.So it's not like we have
generations and generations who have been hunting.
But what's funny is he, he actually very similar situation,
got invited by one of his friends to go up to this spot
and, and go hunting. And I was probably 2-3 years old

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the first time that he ever wentup there.
So that was we he technically he's been hunting up there for
20, almost 25 years. So yeah.
And I, me personally, the first time that I went up there was on
a guy with the guy. I was probably 11 or 12 on this

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kids youth hunt. It was early September.
Gets to hunt with a rifle and went up there, shot a bull and I
remember being 11 or 12. I was a little kid, like
physically I was a little kid and I remember going in there
and hiking back in after they shot the bull.

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We had horses and packed in and they, they ended up going back
there. I hung out with this, this
older, the, the old dude in the family at the time.
I got to just sit and hang out with him for a little bit as
they went in and got the ball and came back.
I got to sit on, hang out on thehorse.

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I remember being like, holy crap, this is crazy.
I was so tired, exhausted. And then I ended up, didn't go
back up there until I drew my youth tag when I was 15.
Yeah, 14 or 15. I drew that youth tag and went
up there. It was a lot of fun.

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So, so tell me about that hunt your your youth tag hunt.
So I'm not proud of this. It was a, it was a rough go.
Like I said, I was a little kid.I, I not stout.
My brother's a lot bigger than Iam.
Still to this day, real quick, don't beat yourself up because

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I'm not a little kid. I've still yet to get it done.
I kept saying this was the year and this year just punched back
harder than ever before. Hey, I can attest to that.
I, I, I haven't had many days onthe mountain, but I've got a
new, a new baby, as you know, somy, my life hit me pretty,

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pretty hard this year, so. You're at a different life stage
right now for. Sure.
Yeah, you're you're, I get it. I've been there.
I've done that. I mean, we talked like I coached
baseball, like no one in my family haunted.
So I was coaching my kids going to either baseball or soccer,
basketball or tennis or whateverit was.
So I get it. I, I kind of hit like that

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midlife crisis and I was like, Igot to figure out something to
do. And I've always loved the
outdoors, which is, you know, what turned me, turned me on to
this when my boy pushed us to goget bows.
But, but anyway, so but your your first hunt up in that area
cause having been up there and experienced it, I mean, there's
some areas that aren't too bad and there's some areas that are

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like good night. Yeah, it's it's rugged country
for sure. If you if you get into the wrong
spot or pick just happened to pick the wrong path, like that's
the one thing I know this area fairly well.
I've walked through in a lot. And which I did both coming and

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going on the one that me, you, Dustin went out together.
And honestly, I kind of, I, I ended up seeing the path that
you took and I was like, Oh, I hope he doesn't think that I
just sent him into this spot andwas like, oh, well, we got to
send someone in there. No, I, I truly, because I, we
ended up walking out that way. And it's just, and you know how

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it is, it's those 6 foot, 7 foottall little pine trees that are
just regrowing after a fire and then all the dead fall.
And so it's like this super thick.
But what's the weirdest thing ishow much elk sign is in there?
Oh, it was, it was, it was insane.
I was like, we're in the right area.

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But the crazy thing for me on the way back out and because we
kind of got split up because we,we all we we kind of divide it
up. And I mean, we're completely
getting off your story right now, but we're getting into it.
So, so we may as well, we'll, we'll come back to it.
But you, we heard an elk. Dustin didn't hear it.

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You heard it. I wasn't too far off from you
where we had kind of split up. I mean, at that point we were
probably, I don't know, quarter,half mile in.
Yeah. And I'm like, I hear the elk.
We still had the ability to communicate.
So I was like, yeah, I heard it.And anyway, we just kept pushing

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through and then it decided not to play.
Yeah, and that's that's the thing about up there is
obviously as you've heard, but multiple stories from Dustin and
I, they're either there to play or they're not.
And and I'm those. Days they were not there to

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play. No, no, except for us, right?
We were. We were playing.
Oh yeah, yeah, we, we got, we got to one point where I'm like,
I think we're all calling each other.
I yeah, I Dustin, he's a good caller, dude.
Like he, he's. Yeah.

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I legit what was funny is I thought he was real.
I thought he was a real bull. He thought I was real and it was
just funny. I had seen him when we, I think
I was like the first one back there and I kind of went up on
that Ridge a little bit and I saw him coming in and bugle and
I'm like, I'm going to play withhim.

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And I think you thought it was reversed when you as you were
coming down, you thought my calls was Dustin and his was the
actual bull. Yeah.
And so I was like, because like you said, we we had
communication. I didn't know exactly where you
were. And I'm like, Dustin's like, oh,
I'm almost there. And so I'm like, hear this bugle

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and I'm like, there's you've heard there's just a faint a
slight difference between a realball and and A and a bugle that
we use. And it's like, OK, I know this
one's got to be dusted. He's good this one.
And I was like, there's a chance.
I'm like, there's a chance. And Dustin even message like

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after I'd be able let it out Andhe like, I think we got a real 1
and I'm like, I think that mightbe it.
So I just kept going with it AndI thought you were him and he
thought he thought I was the real bull.
And oh, that was funny. I was what?
And then I saw you start creeping down over the corner
and I was like, these guys, these guys.

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You're like, come on, you young dumb.
No, no, dude, I tell you what. Like, I mean, you, you joke, I
think you'll be a little bit toorough on yourself because you
know a lot about that mountain up there in the area.
And I learned that was the firsttime I've ever been out actually
calling because the other placesI've been hunting over the
years, I haven't called. They're not, they weren't really

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talking. And even this year, I feel like
like we were out there like 10. Like, I mean, we were up to the
end of it right to, to when it ended.
But I just feel like it was like7 to 10 days too early, right?
You know, even the other area that we, that dust and I went up
to on on the final day and and that is another experience in

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and of itself. I heard.
But but no, I, I learned, I learned a lot from from you guys
being able to call, listen, likewhat to look for the signs,
because like I hadn't been in anarea where there was a lot of
elk where every the place that I've been going hunting.
I mean, I told you I I've said it's just here in bountiful,

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like there's no sign. There's no sign of rub.
Like they kind of come in and and they get out.
But here you're able to to look at the sign and and see, you
know, like, you know, fresh droppings, fresher droppings.
So it was really I while I haven't punched the tag yet, I'm

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not giving up on it. We're going to go out on the
extended and see what we can figure out.
I know my boy, he was bummed he he with work and stuff he
couldn't get going. We he wants to go up Parley's
and see if we can find somethingup there on the extended.
But there there's a lot, there'sa lot to hunting elk and it's

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not easy. And I, I think at one point we
had, we had another guy that wasgoing to come and join us up
there and he was like, well, my buddy's up there and says
they're not talking. They were talking.
They just, they wouldn't engage.They would communicate and then
they're like, I don't care enough.

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I'm not full of piss and vinegarenough to bother to come down
and, and have a battle with you.But we, we were sitting down.
We said over like the between the two of you, your families, I
think it's probably the experience is like 40 to 45
years experience up there. And when we did the math between

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like your family and his family,there was like 45 plus bowls
that have been taken up there. Yeah.
So we we know that we were in the right area for sure.
We're in the right area, yeah. Exactly like I've taken out.
I've got a a nice five point bowl hanging up in my house that
I shot up there. My brother shot multiple out cup

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there. My dad had shot.
You heard you heard all the stories of oh, we shot one over
here, We shot one over there. I've been into this Canyon.
I've seen him there but never gotten after him too thick or
whatever. And then there was there's a lot
of experience and that was so fun to did 1 to interact with

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you guys in and person and get to know Dustin more and pick his
brain and be like, hey. Hey, you guys had a bromance
going on for sure. The funny thing was is the the
so you're exact back, kind of back to when me and you met.

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I won. I'm listen, I listen to the
podcast. So I was like, how cool, like,
and I walk out and I see you andI'm like, Dang, look at this
guy's 6 foot four. Got a nice big beard.
Look at this dudes go up. Unfortunately, my wife was super
pregnant at the time and she's like, we got to go.

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And I'm like, hey, love the podcast.
I'm the one that talked to Dustin happened to run into each
other and it was fun. But yeah, we, we, Dustin and I
kind of had a. But you guys have had a lot of
experience on that mountain together.
And, and so like, I get it. And I was like, I was in like

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kill mode. So I'm like, wait, you guys can
talk? Like, even though I think we're
out of like the time that we're supposed to be like finding
something in my mind, I was justlike, 1's going to step out,
one's going to step out, one's going to step out.
So there was a couple areas that, you know, I'd walk through
it and I could like, it's a, it's a very unique scent when

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you tell that, when you can tellthat you're on them.
And so the other frustrating thing is like 1, there's the
signs that we'd see and then when you would smell them two,
I'm like, my senses were like, I'm like, OK, something's
nearby. And honestly, they probably were
super close, but they were just bedded down and I couldn't, we

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couldn't find them, but. And or they were there at one
point or, and moved through and it was just the right way that
that spot that we, the three of us went into the wind shifts in
there all the time. And so it's like, I've been in
there and it's just, you can smell and you're like, they have

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to be here. They were here, they were here
or they're there. And it's like, and then you walk
in and there they are. They're, they're just moving
through down to this spot that we kind of ended up meeting at
and then they bump off that Ridge down into that big Canyon.
Yeah, yeah, well, just I want toaddress one thing.
One, thank you for listening to the podcast.

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I'm super glad that you took a minute to come up and at least
say hello. And yeah, you've got, you've got
the baby now and, and life's good and you got a good lady
that lets you get out and do something that you love.
So, so that's super cool. But yeah, it was, it was fun.
It was fun. Why?

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I mean, Dustin's like, hey, man,like I'm sorry.
And I'm like, dude, don't apologize to me.
I was like, I was having a riot.Cause I'd never, I'd never been
in an area like that before. And so it was a new experience.
So I was just gobbling it all up.
Like I'm looking and I'm going like, OK, how do I, you know,

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I'm looking for footprints. Are they fresh?
Are they old? You know, I, I, there's so many
different things that are going on that I discovered that it's
your mind will play tricks on you too.
So anyway, yeah, no, I joke. But you guys, like I said, as

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you would walk through and we'd be talking, I'd hear you guys
talk about, hey, do you remember?
You don't remember this place? We call it this.
Oh, yeah, we call it this. And then there'd be a story that
that would that would come up. But but it was it was a ton of
fun. I had a blast with you.
The one thing that I have got tofigure out how to do, I mean I

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might need to start taking Ambien with me when we go
hunting, is I. Cannot sleep.
I can't sleep. I mean, when when we went out
try, you know, Dustin and Jackson and I, we had gone out
for a couple days trying to punch my Buck tag.

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That was rough. I mean, I slept one hour that
night. I think part of it's just like
excitement, wanting to get up and, and get after it.
And then the other part was like, like Jackson slept in his
vehicle, Dustin slept in his truck.
I had this tent I set up. The ground was in and we got up

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there at like 11:30 at night andit heard rain.
So like I'm trying to get it setup like in the dark.
And it was just this, this sleeping situation for when the
three of us went out was much better.
But like you said, like I'm so long, like I can't get
comfortable. And then like I sit up, go to
sit up at night and like smack my head like on the ceiling.

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And I'm just going. And, and then like I said, like
I, I have these and we, we, we talked a little bit about it up
there, but my mouth will get dryand I'll wake up.
It'll put me into like a panic attack.
So like, I think I'd maybe sleptfor 30 minutes.
I sit up, smack my head on the ceiling on this bunk and I'm

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like, I got to get out and I'm Icouldn't get situated and I
finally you were on the bunk below me.
I just like bail off the top andit's like 4.
In the morning and it's. Just like Wham crack.
And then I'm just like, I got toget outside and get some fresh
air and it was cold. It was cold.
So I go out, I've just got like AI just throw AT shirt on, throw

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on my Crocs and step outside andI'm just like come back in.
Then I'm like, I'm just waiting.And I think we had our the alarm
set for like 5 or something. I can't remember what time we
were getting up that. Yeah, I think it was.
It was 5 because it wasn't far after like.
Yeah, I was like contemplating coming, getting back in bed and

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I'm like, screw it, I'm just going to sit down here at the
little table inside and. Right.
Dustin's like I didn't hear anything.
I slept great. Slept like a baby in there.
Yeah, I know. I, it's funny, it's the first
few hours of sleep for me that I'm out like I'm you cannot wake
me up. And then once it's like time to

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wake up, getting close couple hours, I'll wake up to.
You like, you like hit the sack and we're like you were out.
My wife, she's one. My wife is amazing.
You're exactly right. She lets me go out and go
hunting, do things. But if there's one thing that
really bugs her, it's the fact that I can fall asleep so fast.

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She she's like, like we try to watch a movie, do anything.
I'm just like, out. That was exactly that.
We got in. I'm like, I'm going to bed.
That's like. Reverse roles when it comes to
movies, like most of the time it's like like hey, let's say I
watch a movie like the woman's like out instantly.

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I guess it depends on the movie you're watching, right?
Right. If it's like a action pack,
right out out. Or it's like, my wife's like,
why are you on your phone? And I'm like, because the show's
dumb. I have a tendency to to really

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get into those interesting chickflicks because I just don't see
what it's going to be. And all of a sudden there's like
a total flip and I'm like, what?Oh my gosh.
And she just makes fun of me forit.
What's your favorite chick flickthat you've watched?
I already know what you're goingto say.

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The one that I'm talking about that I really I cannot remember
the name of the movie. Who's in it?
The wedding planner, Oh, that was the one that I was like.
McConaughey and Jennifer Lopez. Yep, that's the one.
One. Yeah, that's the one, yeah.

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Yeah, that's, yeah, that's. I'm trying to remember.
Oh, oh, yeah, that's right. She's the wedding planner.
He's getting married to another gal and.
OK. All right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm there. All right, all right, all right.
I know which one we're talking about, but but anyway, so OK, we

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went back your first hunt, it wasn't great.
What's your most memorable hunt up there that you had?
Were you been able to to harvestsomething up there?
So my favorite hunt, it's I'm being selfish.
It's the one that where I killedmy my biggest bull up there.

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And funny enough, it's you were in the area with me very close
to where I ended up killing my ball.
Which where? Where was it?
Was it like? The so the where we went the
first night and I, I kept calling it the Cabela's Meadow.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, big, big open Meadow where
you always think like, oh, perfect.

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Bella's Magazine Meadow. If I, I came from the opposite
direction and met up with you guys and met in there, but it
was on my way from where you dropped me off to where we ended
up meeting. There's a, a few little, I don't
know, ridges that you have to cross and then you come up and

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there's this burn. The way that I, I did it the day
that I killed this bull is I drop people off like I drop
someone off where I when you drop me, I drop someone at the
summit. I dropped another guy in and we
all kind of similar to what we did on that other side of where
it's just like we come in and weget on top of the elk because we
know they're always in there. And then I ended up going all

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the way to the bottom similar like on the far side from that
Meadow went around and that cameback up and I was following some
tracks I had at the time. My stepmom was with me.
And I told her, I said, hey, if you see anything, don't even
like hesitate to to like trying to stop me.

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Tell me to do it. Like if you see what I'm
shooting, because that's kind ofit's just the way that it is up
there. You have to be quick on the
rifle on they're always moving, which this was the polar
opposite. We're going in there, we're
walking like OK, let's take a break and all of a sudden I hear
some pops and cracks and I'm like what the heck?

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And I cow called and dude, he just lets out of like nastiest
bugle that I'm like, this is real bull.
I was it was it was the end of October or no, no, the beginning
of October. So first.

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So right around around this time.
Yeah, it was like, yeah, a week from now this bull comes in and
he stops and he's right behind those small 6-7 foot pine tree
super. And I'm like, he stops right
behind it. It's just raking and I can see

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his antlers. I'm like, holy crap.
Like this is a nice bull. Like this is bigger than
anything that I've seen up here.And I have my gun up and this is
what's crazy. I shot him with a 270 pump
action with open sights. So it looks like it's this old

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guy that was my grandpa's. It looks like a shotgun.
It's The funny thing. It's like I pulled it out and
the bunch of the guys that are in our hunting group, like,
dude, are you hunting with a shotgun?
And I'm like, no, it's a 270. It's got a clip and luckily the
area that I was in those words, that super thick timber close

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range bull comes out and I'm like how about how did the gun
act? Boom, I shoot and he just
freaking drops. Like ran 5 feet nose 1st and
it's sitting there kicking and I'm just like, you know, it's
like like scream like I freakingdid it because little bit of a

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back story, we didn't finish thefirst time that I said that I
kind of struggled with. Right.
So that was this. This other hunt was awesome
because no one else was up there.
It was like the one time, the one year one have the youth tag.
So we didn't see any other hunters and we were in the elk

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five days in a row. And it was just the upsetting
thing is there was one time we get into this spot and oh, it's
the Cabela's Meadow that I'm telling you about.
We hiked down in there and let out a bugle and this bull

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responds and they take, they're like, oh, we have to go after
them. And so he bugles, we bugle.
We just go back and forth, play in the game.
And then my dad and his best friend at the time were like, we
have to go down there and we're cutting across because we

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thought we knew where he was. We're cutting across that Meadow
out in the wide open and look down and the bulls walking right
at us. And I'm 14.
And the one thing that I remember they ingrained this
into my head was take the broadside shot.

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I was 14 at the time. And I'm like, this bull was dead
on staring at me, a big old bull.
And I'm like, holy. So I'm pulling.
And they're both shoot, shoot him and I'm just sitting there
holding. He's looking right at me and I'm
holding I'm holding broadside exactly.

(31:00):
And they're like yelling at me. So I start like panicking and so
he turns and I boom, miss him. I'm like, they're like, what are
you? What were you doing?
I'm like you. I'm like, you guys told me to
shoot when it was broadside. So end up leaving there next
morning, get into some out didn't have a shot.

(31:22):
And then literally we do the same thing.
We go down into that Meadow and bugle and like 3 bulls bugle and
we're like, OK, it's game on. Like let's play.
We're running in there and there's this nasty bugle over

(31:42):
here and we're like just be lining it straight for the spot,
kind of just bumping through thetrees.
And we get to this opening and I'm looking and all of a sudden
I get my, my dad like physicallypicks me up, puts me over here
and says there's a bull right there.
And I, I remember pulling up breathing boom.

(32:02):
And I thought I hit him. Like I was very positive that I
hit him and go over and there's no blood.
And we're like, what in the heckcan we look all over?
And we ended up like I shot a couple more times and I was 14.

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This is where I feel bad. I didn't have a great shot at
the time, didn't see him and he we looked all over, wasn't dead.
Last day of the youth hunt, we're driving up the mountain
and what's crazy is we ended up blowing 2 tires the day before.

(32:44):
And so we had to call my stepmomand say, hey, there's a set of
tires in this town that we're fairly close to go pick him up
and bring him up to the mountain.
So she does, we get going, we'relate the next morning and we're
driving and she's in in the truck with us.
This is what's wild. She's in the truck with us.

(33:05):
We're hauling up to this spot and she goes, hey, there's the
buck that you're after. And my dad, like, didn't think
anything of it. He was like, oh, buck, who
cares? We're after bulls.
But he ends up like finding a spot, looks over, there's a herd

(33:25):
of elk running alongside us. So we jump out of the truck.
Not like alongside us. They were probably 50 yards into
the trees. We could see them funneling
through. We got we get out and they do
the same thing to me, pick me up, put me in the spot and
they're like, shoot that one. And they're all bunched up and I
couldn't see and they're like, shoot him, shoot him.

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And I was like, I didn't know this at the time, but on the
youth tag you can shoot a cow ora bull.
And I didn't see the bull. I thought I was looking at a cow
and they were telling me that itwas a bull.
Anyways, it was, it was crazy. Like that's the like we drive
past that spot. That's like like, oh, there's

(34:08):
that buck you're looking for so.I, I remember that spot when we
were coming back down. I think that night is where you
would like point that out to us.Yeah, it was.
It's right by where you get cellreception.
You come around that corner and it's kind of a straight shot.
And yeah, it was so funny, but. It's.

(34:33):
Good time, good times. It's fun, but that that I ended
up missing didn't kill anything then and then I shot that ball
that I got all excited about with that open sights 270 and we
ended up from the hip pretty much.
It was just like boom, no, I, I,I was like, I'm not freaking

(34:53):
missing this thing. I've missed too many elk.
I've had too many opportunities and I hit him and that's why I
just screamed like let's go. And we ended up at at my
redemption bull so. That's awesome.
Yeah, it's fun. And your and your brother get a

(35:15):
bull up there as well. He did.
So we call him lucky Sucker because I'm where you guys
parked after you had dropped me off.
I walked in and there's this little kind of corner that
sometimes they'll funnel up through right there and come up
and over the top. So I walked in there and I'm

(35:38):
walking around this side hill and I fell, fell flat on my face
opening morning. And I literally, I'm like
pushing myself up and I look up and there's elk running in front
of me and I'm like, holy crap. So I like go to like get one,
like rack one in and I look overand I see my brother.

(35:59):
Literally he gets down on a knee.
Boom. And he's like, and I just hear
yes, I was like he got 1 and I'mlike looking for it, can't see
it. And he he's like I hit it, I hit
it starts crying. He's like, I freaking did it.
It's like he was, he was 14 at the time.

(36:21):
Super excited shot that ball. It was a it was a nice ball.
Pack it out. And then two years later, he
actually ended up drawing the youth tag.
And so we're we're like same thing.
We're going to go up to this spot.
We've had luck up there. We've killed multiple elk.
And that's that story of where we're driving and all those elk

(36:43):
ran in front of us. And that's how we ended up going
into that spot that I took you guys into.
And funny thing was, as we, we followed them, if they had to
open 40 or 50 elk in this herd and they went through, we're
following them and get to the spot and we're like, OK, let's

(37:05):
see if we hear anything bugle. We ended up sitting for about an
hour at that time and we're like, Dang it, they're gone.
Like they're long gone. And then out of nowhere, just a
bugle goes off and it's like 10:00 in the morning, so late
into the late into the morning. And so we played the game.

(37:28):
We get in, we started sneaking up there.
We had we had learned that if the elk are talking, you don't
have to rush into anything. You don't have to freaking bolt
after him made some mistakes there before.
And anyways we get in that. I can share with you in just a
minute. Hey, I think that's 90% of it is

(37:52):
making mistakes and then the 10%ends up coming down the line.
But yeah, he ended up killing another funky, unique bull and
we called it Lucky sucker #2 because it was just.
But he's he's a lucky sucker. Lucky sucker, so.

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Yeah, dude, that's that's the one thing.
So I mean, we've had like Rusty Samantha on the podcast and
Dustin, I've talked to him and, and, and we were, I was talking
with Cody and just a couple other guys.
They're like, yeah, if if you get up early and go like bugle
and you get a bull that's responding like stay in that

(38:34):
Canyon. And so that spot, that dust and
I went to that morning after youleft, like we got up 3:30.
We got ready to go through our through our stuff on and we're
like, OK, like let's go. So, so we go right up to that
spot, we get out and, and we walk in, I don't know, maybe

(38:56):
like 80 yards or something. And Dustin just like let's one
RIP and like we hear one like immediately like respond back to
us. And he was, he sounded like he
was a ways away, but he, he sat and he was like talking to us.
So I, I mean, for probably 5 minutes we were like going back

(39:19):
and forth. And at one point, like towards
the end, I'm like, oh, he's coming down.
So we're like, all right, we're just going to like sit this
thing out and we're like, all right, it was freezing again.
We're like, let's go back in thetruck and, and we're just going
to wait and then we'll get our stuff and, and head out.
Did he Did Dustin tell you this?He did, he told me.

(39:39):
Yeah, and we're, we're walking back and all of a sudden there
was another elk that was like 20yards from us.
So the way we had kind of walkedin, we'd kind of like scooted
down, went inside and I'm like, hey, like, let's go back, get in
the truck, warm up. And then we'll once we get
closer to sunlight, we'll go outand start talking again.

(40:02):
And as we're as we're walking back, we both about freaking
pissed our pants because we had like our we had turned our lamps
off. Like once we got back there,
we're like, hey, let's shut the lamp off and let's just talk.
So we're like, all right, we're going to sneak back and I'll.
And when here's The thing is. My eyesight is terrible.
I can't find an animal on the side of a mountain for the life

(40:24):
of me. I mean, I, I can see him, but
it's not easy. But like my nose.
I, I told Dustin I'm like, dude,I'm like, I swear there's like
elk, there's elk nearby. And anyway, we, we're as, as
we're walking back, something bolts and I'm just like, we just

(40:50):
in my mind, like I told us, I'm like, we just freaking blew this
Canyon out before we even got started this morning.
And we're like, he's like, did we like, should we stay?
He's like everybody says like ifyou find bowls, just stay.
And I'm like, yeah, but dude, wejust like literally it was, it
was close. I mean, I would dare say it was

(41:12):
less than 20 yards away, 'cause I mean, it sounded like it was
right on top of us. So we go back and it's probably
not. It's probably it's my fault,
'cause I'm like, we blew this Canyon.
I'm like, let's go up, let's go up to this other.
He had this other spot. It was like, here's the other
thing with Dustin, everything's super close.

(41:32):
He's like, oh, it like it's likea 20 minute drive up there.
Like 45 minutes later it's the same thing.
It's like, oh, it's just like a little like it like 1/2 mile in.
And then there's just like this,like there's a steep incline,
but it's only like 20 yard, 20-30 yards.

(41:52):
And everything with him is like I'm like OK, from here on out
it's like times 5. If it's half a mile, it's 3
miles. If it's like a 20 yard steep
incline, it's probably like 1/4 mile.
But but anyway, so I'm like, like, let's let's drive back up
the Canyon. So we went up and, and, and we

(42:13):
stopped along the way a couple times and like we let out some
bugles. Nothing, there was nothing else
talking out there. So we get up to his one place
where he's been on elk before and we bugled, bugled and, and
there's like a cool Little Riverthat like runs through up at the
top of this mountain. And anyway, we get nothing.

(42:37):
I'm like, we should go back downand Dustin, Dustin doesn't like
going fast on that hill. And I'm like, we should, we
should go back down. I'm like, I think at a minimum,
the one place we didn't stop on the way up is that Cabela's
Meadow. I'm like, let's go back down
there. Let's let's go RIP one out and

(42:59):
see if we can find something. So like, I hauled ass back down
the mountain. So it took us like 45 minutes to
get up there and I probably got us back to that Cabela's Meadow
in like 15. And so Dustin's like, well,
let's just hike in a little bit.Let's get in there and call and
see if we can find something. We hiked down probably like 3/4

(43:27):
of a mile and then we finally like started bugle and then
we're like nothing. And we just both like I'm like,
we screwed up. We shouldn't have left that one
Canyon even though we bumped that one.
The other guy might not know, you know, that other bull might
not have known it. So then we like, that's the one
thing like going in, I'm slow, but when it's time to go back to

(43:47):
the vehicle to go try another spot, like I can haul freaking
balls. It's like horses.
They don't when you're headed back to the truck, like when
you're when you're back on a horse, they go in.
They're just slow. Yep, that's me.
That's me you turn to AT. You turn around and it's like,
oh, we're going back to the truck.

(44:07):
OK, let's go. That's how I lost you guys.
I was like, I, I was just walking.
Also, I turned around and I'm like, where in the hell did
those two guys go? And and the walkie-talkie that
those ones I bought, they were freaking shit, man.
I like immediately returned those and they're like, there's
something wrong with them. I'm like, yeah, they don't work.

(44:29):
They're like, well, what do you mean?
And I'm like, I'm like, here, gostand on the other side of
Cabela's here. And I just grabbed something
last minute but I'm not going toname them but they were shit.
I I kind of laughed because, yeah, when, when we were trying
them, it was like one of them would work, the other wouldn't.

(44:49):
And it was the. One volume and it had one volume
which was not quiet. No, all of a sudden alarm starts
going off like halfway through the morning on.
It's like, what are we doing? Yeah, when I'd leave it on, I
would like bump it 'cause I had it, I had it attached to my, to
my vinyl harness and I would like move some way and it's and

(45:11):
like a literal alarm would go off for like it felt like it was
30 seconds. It was probably like 3 seconds,
but it felt like it was forever.And anyway, anyway, so, so then,
so then we get back, we get backthere.
Like you said, I'm like a horse when it's time to get back to
the vehicle, even though like I'm wanting to go try someplace

(45:32):
else, like I can move it, but going in, I'm just like nice and
steady. Like I don't want to push
anything. So we so like, I'm literally
like that, you know that metal that you walk through, not the
Meadow, but as you're kind of heading back up to the Meadow,
it's kind of last of the Mohicanish, right?

(45:52):
I'm like, I want to get back down there.
So like I start running like I, I got my bow, like I'm running
and Dustin's like, what on earthare you doing?
I'm like, let's get back down there.
We got to go, let's get back down there.
And, and he's like, drop me off.He's like, I'm going to drop me
off up here. I'm going to come down, up over
the Ridge. And so I drop him off dude.

(46:15):
And I like haul ass down there and no, no communication.
Their cell phone service is completely gone on both sides.
The, the, the, the walkie talkies weren't working for
nothing. And he starts down he he goes,

(46:37):
We both went in pretty deep and start cuz I'm like, Hey, I'm
going to get in there. And I start going up and we
finally get to where we have cell service and I'm like, I'm
not climbing up this cuz it if you, if you head north, it's
just, it's bold. I, I call, I'm like, dude, it's
Boulder Canyon. And he's like, yeah, he's like,
I went down and I'm like, I'm going to go hike down.

(46:58):
And it's like a straight like Cliff almost that he had like
he's like, there's no way I'm making it up that.
And so he has to hike back up, around and back down.
And in that area I, I had, I hadone elk that was talking to me.
So this, at this point, it's probably like 7/15, 7:30 and I'm

(47:20):
like, OK, game on. So like I, I start climbing up
to go, 'cause we were going to push up and meet each other and
I'm like, dude, there's no way in hell there's like elk up
here. Right.
I'm like, it's, it's rough. So I'm like, I probably go, I
don't know, 3/4 of a mile up andI'm, I'm like gassed, like my
legs are burning. I'm like, I'm going to go back

(47:41):
down. And so I went down and started
exploring. Dude, it the like, I found like
fresh, fresh, fresh droppings inthere.
Yeah. And I'm like, OK, I told Dustin,
if we ever go, I think that's kind of like your honey hole.
Yeah, he ended up telling like he told me, like where it was

(48:05):
roughly and like all these different things.
And then finally I'm like, OK, Iwas like, is this the spot that
I told you to go into? And he's like, yeah, it was.
And I'm like, dude, I told you. I told you.
Every. Time I go in there.
They were there and I'm like, I,he didn't even see the evidence
that I saw. I took him back in a little bit

(48:25):
and it was a little bit lower down than where I had originally
gone in. There was evidence, but it was
nothing. I'm like my head's on a swivel.
I'm like, they're, they've got to be here somewhere.
I mean, like I took pictures to show him.
It's like this must have just dropped.
That's. The one thing, if it's cold
enough out there and it's still steaming, you know that they're

(48:46):
right there. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, you'vegot to be kidding me.
But anyway, like the it's a it'sa sweet, super sweet area.
But I get in there and I finallystarted figuring out how to I
was bugling pretty good. Well, finally we get a
communication. He's like, I'm almost at the
truck. I'm like, I'm going to start
working back and and so I start walking down and I walk across

(49:09):
these two. This father son that was
hunting. Did he tell you about that?
He told me that you guys had raninto a father and a son, but not
not a ton. So I, I come down, I see those
guys and they finally, they saidthey saw me and they're like,
dude, we've been chasing you forlike the last hour and a half.

(49:32):
They're like, they're like we like, we thought for sure you
were the the bulls that we saw. So they had come up like the
night before. And he goes, we were driving up
the Canyon probably like 10/10/30 and he's like, we saw
two big bulls come right in here.
And so one, I bumped one of them.

(49:54):
We bumped them when we were on our way back to the truck and
two like, yeah, it's, it's a, it's a sweet little spot.
I told Dustin, like next time wego up there, like I'm just going
to go sit up shop there for like4 days.
Like I ain't going anywhere. Yeah, there's.
What's funny, so realistically, I, I have a good idea as to

(50:17):
where you guys went in. I, I ended up running into a
local, I told you who has a cabin that's down in the bottom,
bottom of the big, big Canyon. And he ended up telling me,
obviously we found that spot andthen we told him that's where we
like to go. And he ended up telling us.
He puts a trail Cam in there. And in like a short span of

(50:42):
time, he ended up having like 1000 plus pictures of he was
like, there's multiple, multipleballs.
And that's that's the one thing I was like, you saw, I told you
that was like I told tried to tell Dustin, I'm like, hey, this
top half of this mountain, it's all boulders.

(51:04):
I'm like. He said as he got to that
mountain, he's like, I remembered Ashton telling me
this. And I'm, I told, he told me on
the phone, he's like, you weren't lying when you said that
entire top half of that mountainwas boulders.
And I'm like, there's a reason that I go into this certain spot
or we go this other way. And it's it sounds like you

(51:26):
ended up getting into the other spot where they go in and
they're moving. In to see.
Sign upon sign and like me, I was like, I I was so mad that I
had to leave, but I'm like, I'vegot obligations, I've got work,
I've got a young family and I'm like, I hope they go in there
and I hope they freaking just smoke 1 like.
Dude, I'm like, I kick myself because that is the 11 lesson

(51:51):
that we, I was told. And I, I feared that I had
bumped that bowl out and in my mind now, like it had to have
been a bowl. But it, it was so frustrating,
like getting back in there 'cause I'm like, they're
everywhere, like, like everywhere, like everywhere I'm

(52:13):
looking, I'm like, there's, there's droppings, there's sign,
there's rubs. I'm like that.
Like I told him I'm like, and wewere so beat up from like the
night before and like the other stuff that we had done.
I'm just like, do we go? And I'm like, nothing was really

(52:34):
engaging with this. But when I was back in there, I,
I would just do some like cow calls every now and again.
And I had one that was talking to me and it wasn't the father
and son, 'cause they were, they were back behind me on the way
back. And so towards the Ridge, I,
there was like a little Meadow. There's a little Meadow area in
there. And I heard, I could hear

(52:56):
something moving. I hear like the twigs and
branches and sticks breaking and, and he let out just like a
little, a little grunt. And I'm, I'm sitting there and
like knock my arrow and I just sat there for like 30 minutes
and I kept like, I just do like a cow call just something

(53:17):
because I didn't, he wasn't responding to anything else.
So I'm like, well, what's the point?
Like if I let like an aggressiveone go, I, I'm afraid that I
could like run him out of there because he wasn't responding.
But but anyway, I sat there and finally I'm just, I told, I told
Dustin, I'm like, if we go out there and just set up shop

(53:38):
there, there's no way that if we're there for four days that
one of us doesn't come out with a bowl, right.
So. And that's what's funny is I
ended up telling Dustin. But like and if anybody.
Wants to know where that location is?
Just send me Adm on Instagram and I'll drop the pins to you on
Onyx. I'm just kidding.

(53:59):
Hey, you know, if people, if someone pays enough, sure, let's
do it. Why not, right?
No. This.
They're probably going to kill something in there first.
Prove it to me. Hey, I'm Yeah, it's true.
That's that, isn't that that that's the same area where like
you saw the bulls run across like with your family when you

(54:23):
were when you were younger, right?
Like, don't they kind of just like come across that Ridge and
drop down in there? Yeah, because so what's funny is
it's this big, once you come fully out of that big Canyon
that we've talked about 1000 feet, it just is kind of a flat
rolly. Like it just ends up going up to

(54:43):
the Ridge and it's like over to if you're coming up from the
bottom, up from tent city, right?
We laugh. If you come up from tent city to
the left side is where Cabela's Meadow is.
Then there's a there's a burn strip that I where I killed my
elk. And the lakes are there too.

(55:06):
Yeah, or it's kind of over. It's beyond, it's beyond there.
And then as you're coming this way, there's two little like
ridges and there's AI was telling Dustin, there's a, a
wallow in this one spot. And then you hit the road and
therefore they'll cross into that side and that's where they
come from that wallow through this little flat across the

(55:28):
road. And then they end up in that
spot. And for some reason they just,
there's this little shelf that they hide in.
And like, that's why I heard thebugles in that spot two days in
a row and you heard them the next day.
And I'm like, I just like the spot because they hold up.
We were just some below that that first day, right?

(55:51):
And for some reason I had this feeling I was like, I think
they're going to like I bought Icame from the top the morning
before and I'm like, because I ran into another guy.
It's funny. His his name is actually Ryan as
well, very similar to you, But he he's all bald.
He doesn't have a good, he doesn't have long hair, nice
beard. He's completely bald, but he's

(56:13):
tall like you. And so what's funny is I ran
into him, but we kind of I was like, hey, let's let's be
strategic here. It's kind of the game name of
the game. I've had a ball be going in here
if we can bump them to each other.
And he ended up doing that. I came from the top again, he
went from the bottom and he's like, it was he was screaming at

(56:33):
me playing, running back and forth.
And so that's when I was like, OK, I bumped him down from the
the top down to him the next day.
So let's go from the bottom. And then, lo and behold, like
you heard, they were up above meagain so.
Such is life, man. It's a ton of fun.

(56:54):
I, I had a lot of fun. It's been fun getting to know
you a little bit better and I'm looking forward to getting back
out with you again in the future.
I, I think it's, I think we havea lot of fun out there together
and I appreciate your willingness to impart some of
your knowledge. Yeah, I, I don't, I've had to

(57:14):
learn it all through. I've had to learn it all.
And if I can, yeah, if I could share a little bit of the
knowledge that I have and be open and just say, hey, the end
of the day, if someone kills something, if someone gets onto
something, it's that's more fun.Like I've helped plenty of guys
kill bulls and it's, it's almost, I would almost say it's

(57:37):
more fun to help somebody kill something than it is to do it
yourself sometimes. Like that's the one thing I.
Would like to do it myself once before.
Hey, you know, we all do and like I'm I'm I've got to eat.
Like I've said, I've got a youngfamily.
My oldest is five and I can't wait to take them out and get

(57:58):
them to experience this and see them like.
Them youth tax. I know what that's definitely
the plan at that point. We'll see what happens where our
state will be at at that point. But I, I know the second my, my
daughter shoots her first out, I'm going to just bawl like a
baby because I'm, I'm, I've got so much emotion and everything

(58:22):
and I cry at the dumbest things,but it's, it's just the way that
it is. My my daughter's brought that
out of me. Yeah, dude, I'm with you.
I get, I get, I get super emotional.
I mean, I don't know that I would over an animal, but I've
yet to kill 1, so I I don't know.

(58:44):
I mean, I did have I did have myone kill this year.
I got my first kill with the bow.
Yeah, that was great. Got that checker Dustin range
it. He's like 41 yards.
My boy's like, no way. I'm like, oh, ye of little faith
locked in. Let the arrow fly.
And that thing was, that thing was dead before it hit the

(59:05):
ground, dude. Yeah, you're exactly, exactly
right, I think. I think if you get something in
range, dude, and in front of yougives you the opportunity, it's
over. Like the extended, we've got
time. We've got up until what,
December 15th? It's like November 30th for deer

(59:29):
and then December 15th for elk, yeah.
I don't know where guys get the time for it.
I mean, this, this podcast is not my full time gig.
I mean, I've, I've got a full time job.
I've got this that I'm doing. You know, my, my son and I, we
got another business partner. We're getting ready to launch
another business here at the endof the month.

(59:51):
And I mean, it would be great tobe like the guys that make a
living off going out hunting andbeing able to go spend a week, 2
weeks a month. But I also like.
Realized too is I I think the type of Backcountry hunter I

(01:00:14):
want to be is the guy that does it off the back of a horse.
I I can, I can agree. I think it's there's, there's
certain people where it's like, oh, you know, they go and they
kill these bulls and then all ofa sudden you see them, they've
got horses. It's like, yeah, lucky, lucky,

(01:00:35):
damn, lucky damn. But I.
Anthony and Russell, I had, I had those two guys on the
podcast, they go out and they doit off the back of horses.
And I've got, I got another buddy Brandon, who's been out,
he's been out hunting up. He's got a mule.
He's got a couple of mules that he goes out.
He's like that mule covers some ground.
But but yeah, I mean, I do enjoybeating myself up a little bit.

(01:01:03):
Like day three is not so much like, oh, this is a ton of fun.
But you know, like I had, that'slike the last day that we went
out by like 9:00 AM, we had done10 miles.
Yeah. And Dustin's like, again, this
dude's depth perception and judgment of distance is like the

(01:01:29):
worst of anybody I've ever met. But that's partially because
most of the time when he goes out hunting, he's with Quinn.
And Quinn, I guess is just like a pack mule himself.
He just like, goes and so. And Dustin's like, oh, it's not
that far, especially when he's got me just like, I mean, I
walk, but but dude, that was yeah, that was, that was brutal.

(01:01:57):
And did he tell you he lost his phone up there?
What? He didn't tell you.
No, no, OK. Last thing, so this I'll have to
send you the video. We're going up this incline.
It's probably like this, it's steep and it's like it's a good
climb. I bet you All in all we probably

(01:02:19):
went up there was probably man, I'm I'm guessing we walked
upwards like total like mile anda half because we were kind of
zigzagging up because I'm like there was some like shell rock
in that and I'm going like what what are we doing?

(01:02:40):
So we get up there and as we're getting to the top of this very
first Ridge, I'll just I'll I'llkeep it short.
I want to do a podcast with Dustand we could talk about there's
without us calling and we're right on the this time.
We're like right on the edge of Deseret, right where the guys go
sit on shoot out of the back of the truck, right?

(01:03:05):
But we've got bulls bugling. We hear a bull bugling.
We get up there talking anyway, we start coming.
And again, also, Dustin's sense of direction is terrible.
So. As we're coming back down, we
get down, we're gassed. We're like, like, we just want

(01:03:25):
to get out of here. And this time I think it's like
11. I mean, we hiked around up there
trying to get on something, findsomething that we again, we were
on signs, we could hear bulls, but the second we would bugle
back to him, they'd give us one response and then it was like
the middle finger. They're like, well, good luck.

(01:03:46):
Like we like, we don't care enough to leave our cows to come
over and talk to you. But we start walking back and
we're probably, I don't know, like 1/3 of a mile from where we
came down and Dustin's like, I lost my phone and I'm going,

(01:04:08):
where did you lose it? Like was it on the trail?
And he, I go, when was the last time you remember having it?
And he's like when we were like sliding down the mountain.
He's like, I took it out and took a picture of you, got a
video of you like. Yeah.
I'm like, I'm like a horse. I'm like, we're going like, I'm
going like, let's get out of here.
And anyway, so we start, we start back and, and he like, we

(01:04:32):
drop our packs, set them off by the river and we're like, let's
just take a minute. I'm like, we'll go.
And he's like in a panic. He's like, I just bought that
damn phone because his other onehad like he, he dropped, he
dropped a 40 LB dumbbell on it and it was like bent.

(01:04:53):
So he just gets a brand new phone.
Anyway, he goes, he's back therehe goes, he starts climbing up
and I'm like, what are you, whatare you doing?
He's like, this is where we camedown.
I'm like, no, it's not. I mean he's we're, we're maybe
like 100 yards from where we took our backpacks off.

(01:05:15):
Like we're nowhere near. And so I'm like, I'm, I'm like,
I remember there, there was an elk skeleton, like a head and
some ribs and stuff. So I'm like, we got to find
that. And once we get that, we're
probably like 100 yards away. So I start walking and he's like
in these rocks, like climbing his way over.

(01:05:35):
I'm like, Dustin, come down, walk back with me and, and I'm
going to, I'm going to guide you.
So we get back down and I find like the area and we, he
probably spent like 45 minutes up there.
He's like, I'm like, Nope, I I was going to go up there with
him, but I'm like, let me sit down and guide you.

(01:05:57):
Because again, his sense of direction and depth perception
is awful. Like it's the worst of anybody.
Like I can't believe he's ever gone out by himself and made it
home. So.
Oh. My gosh, that's so funny.
I'll tell it to his face anyway.So I got to hear that.

(01:06:18):
We go, we go down and I, I'm saying I'm like, let me kind of
guide you. And so I'm kind of guiding him.
I'm like, no, I'm like, 'cause Iwould look back and check on him
and I have like a pretty good like recall on where he was.
And so he gets to a part. Then he goes up over the Ridge
and, and so like I step back as far as I can go and then I'm in

(01:06:40):
the river. I'd have to like try and like
walk across it and then like, I'm like, just stay on this
angle and like just go and, and he's up there and I, I'm like
hollering, hollering. I mean, he was, I'll have to
say, I think I have a video of it.

(01:07:02):
He was wait. He was like, I mean, he was up
like a decent chunk of the Ridgewhere it had like starting to
like level back out again. So he this monster Ridge that
we'd hiked up, he like we'd goneup, come down.
He then went back up and I'm like, if you said you took a
picture, like you've got to be roughly in this area.

(01:07:22):
And then I holler him. I'm like, I hate to say it,
ma'am, but I just am like, I don't think you're finding that
phone. And I'm like your best bet is
like, I'm going to have to come up there and like retrace.
The tracks, I'm going to have tocome up and do it for you.
Well, he's like, give me just a minute.
So like, I don't know, it's probably like a minute later he

(01:07:44):
goes back. He's like, he's got it.
He found it. He found I'm like, we can't find
a £700 animal on the side of a mountain, but you can drop your
freaking iPhone and we can go back and find that I'm like good
night. Like unbelievable, unfreaking,
believable. So anyway.

(01:08:06):
Well. Funny enough, I can tell you one
quick story up there. It's very similar to what you're
talking about. Last Day of the Hunt.
Like I'm going to just cut it all up, do all the prep work
because it was the evening hunt,right?
We'll come back and grab it in the morning.
We go up there, come back down and we're like 100 yards from

(01:08:30):
the truck and it's like it's a cup.
It was a couple miles to the elkand all of a sudden my brother
goes, I can't find my pistol. And we're like, dude, are you
kidding me? And he's like, no, I can't find
it. And so we're like.
Where is it? And he's like.

(01:08:51):
I think it's by where the elk was like, Oh my gosh.
So we hiked all the way back up there and literally it had
fallen right on top of the a countered.
It was like perfectly just laying flat on this countered.
And it's like, if you want to say it, it's like, yeah, this is

(01:09:15):
the bullshit that you have to deal with.
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right.
That's so. But, well, anyway, Ashton.
Man, hey, I appreciate. You coming on the podcast, it's
been fun getting to know you. If people want to follow you on
Instagram, what's the best way for them to find you?

(01:09:36):
Think it's just Ashton. Noborn.
Yeah. Ashton Oborn.
So if I want to follow him, typein Ashton Oborn go look.
For that mug, you'll find him. But but anyway, yeah, thanks for
having me on. It was.
It's been fun getting to know you as well.
And I look, we'll have more stories to come in the future,

(01:09:57):
I'm sure. Yeah, I can't wait to take a
picture of you over your first. Big game kill.
So talk about there's still hopethat we're going to get it done
this. Year I'm still holding out hope,
but yeah, we we've got I'm goingto let myself mentally recoup a
little bit before I get back outthere and get after it.
So anyway, you guys Ashton, thanks for following go give him

(01:10:19):
a follow on Instagram. We'll make sure that we post a
link to it in the show notes as well.
Again, thank you for listening to the hunt S podcast.
We are the fastest growing pot hunting podcast in the nation.
So anyway, stay safe and God bless.

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