November 25, 2025 • 52 mins
In this episode, Ryan sits down with Logan Romney aka The Creative Hunter. Logan shares how a childhood spent following his dad through the mountains, a COVID-era camera purchase, and a love for wildlife photography evolved into a full-time career filming hunts and creating premium content for hunting brands eventually leading to projects with names like Gritty/Brian Call.
Logan breaks down what it really takes to film hunts especially self-filmed hunts from using nothing but your phone to building a simple but effective camera kit. He walks through how he structures his story in the field using constant “past, present, future” updates, how he thinks about B-roll, and why power management and reliable optics matter more than fancy camo. Logan and Ryan also swap stories on grinding through long, discouraging stretches in the mountains, spotting and stalking bears in brutal country, and why the hunters who consistently punch tags are the ones who stay relentless when most people tap out. If you’re a new hunter or an aspiring hunting filmmaker, this episode is a blueprint for both capturing your story and sticking it out until it finally comes together.
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7 Key Takeaways
- Use the camera you already have - You don’t need a $5,000 setup to start. Your phone plus a spotting scope adapter can capture solid footage and kill shots. The most important camera is the one you’ll actually use.
- Self-filming is way harder than filming someone else - Trying to be both hunter and cameraman is tough and often unrealistic. Logan recommends learning by filming other people’s hunts first so you can focus on storytelling without making hunt decisions at the same time.
- Structure your story with “Past, Present, Future” - Every time something changes, Logan films a quick update that covers: what just happened, what he’s doing now, and what he’s going to do next. Those talking updates, supported by B-roll, are what turn random clips into an actual film.
- Gear smarter, not richer - Logan suggests starting with a used camera if you upgrade, something under $500 will do more than enough when you’re learning. For lenses, a 24–105mm f/4 is his do-it-all workhorse, with a longer zoom (70–200 or 100–400) as a nice-to-have, not a must-have.
- Power and audio matter more than you think - Multiple power banks (like Dark Energy) and a small solar panel keep your phone and camera alive on long hunts. Phone audio is usually fine, but DSLR audio is trash without an external mic and wind cover especially in the mountains.
- Good glass + good habits beat fancy camo - Logan calls out how overrated camo is compared to optics and glassing discipline. Get to vantage points where you can see a lot of country, glass off a tripod, and really pick apart edges, cover, and timber instead of just scanning open hillsides.
- Relentlessness kills more animals than talent - Almost all of Logan’s success this year came late in his hunts... day 10, 11, 13. His advice to new (especially archery) hunters: don’t quit early. The people who consistently kill are the ones who stay in the game when it’s not fun anymore.
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You're listening to the Hunt Stealth Podcast with Ryan
Uffins, the podcast where we dive head first into the wild,
whether you're an aspiring hunter or an adventurer seeking
the untamed. Together, we'll explore the
strategies and stories that leadto success in the great
outdoors. Hey folks, welcome to another
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episode of the Hunt Stealth Podcast.
Excited to have a special guest,Logan Romney on today, also
known as Creative Hunter, founder of Creative Hunter
Media. Logan, dude, appreciate you
joining me today, brother. Yeah, dude, absolutely.
Thanks for having me on. And I've been excited about
this, known you for a couple couple months now.
I guess we're starting to maybe look at working on some projects
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together. And yeah, I'm excited, dude.
Yeah, I'm excited to learn from you.
So for folks that maybe aren't familiar with you, maybe just
share a little bit about your background, like how you know
you're you're growing, you grew up hunting and kind of how you
transitioned into the creative side of of the hunting world, if
you would. Yeah, yeah, dude.
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So I, I haunted growing up as long as I can remember.
I'd go out with my dad, but you know, before I even was old
enough to have A tag in my pocket and just follow him
around. And I grew up doing that.
So I, I, I haunted forever and got out of high school.
It was like COVID time frame. So I had a ton of time and just
not much going on. So I bought a camera and started
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taking photos. I was really into the wildlife
photography and started doing that for about a year.
And then I discovered some of these guys out here like Stephen
Drake and Zach Batlin who are shooting photos for hunting,
right? Like they were getting paid to
shoot photos while they were outhunting.
And I thought that was the coolest thing and kind of
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started down that path of like, how do I make this a career?
How do I get paid for this? So while I was going to school,
going to college, I also was kind of starting this
photography business and learning how to do it and grow
and and capture hunts through both video and photography.
And just at first it was like filming buddies hunts for free
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and just like taking a bunch of photos and making a film forum
just for the heck of it. Like some, sometimes they pay
for my food and travel and sometimes I just go because I
wanted to learn. And yeah, eventually it just
kind of led into this thing where I started just doing it
more and getting paid for it. And now just this last year, I
started Creative Hunter Media. So it's just a media agency and
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it's just me right now. But I work with a lot of other
creatives and brands and that's what we do is full time content
creation, making hunting films, making content for the hunting
industry. Well, and you recently also went
out with somebody who's pretty big into making films and
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gritty. Didn't you go out and help him
with the film film one of his hunts recently?
Yeah, just helping him film somesome some trips over the summer.
Just it was one trip, but we've been chatting.
We'll probably gonna do some more stuff in the future.
But yeah, he's awesome. I love Brian Cole.
Well, I mean, that's I think that's you're being humble about
it, but that's like a big deal because I mean, he's pretty
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particular about how he wants his hunts films.
So I'll toot your horn a little bit for you.
I think that's awesome. Yeah.
Brian's a great dude and and thefilms that he puts together, he
he just keeps getting better andbetter and better.
It's fun to see everything that he's working on and and it's fun
to see like you as I mean, I've been following you for a while
now and kind of seeing your transition into what you're
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doing. So was it, Well, I already know
the answer to this, but for people that are out there that
are thinking like, hey, I'm going to start filming my hunts
and and documenting them, what was that transition like?
How difficult was that? Well, that's a good question.
Like filming your own hunts is so much harder than just filming
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someone else's. Like when you have to be the
hunter and the camera guy and you have to try and get
everything you want to make a good film, like that's, that's
really hard. I kind of did some of it, but I
really learned how to like make a film filming other people.
And so people ask me that a lot.It's just like, like, how do I
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get into it? How do I film my own hunts?
It's like, well, you should probably get some experience
filming some other people's hunts first because then you
don't have to worry about makingdecisions on the hunt.
You don't have to worry about like, like to get a kill shot
when you're by yourself trying to film yourself.
Like you have a couple cameras set up and it's like an animal's
out there, like doing unpredictable things, like you
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might not even have time to set that up.
And so that's tough. Well, yeah, dude, and the guys
like me that are dogs that have been hunting for the past, you
know what, five years now and have yet to even kill anything.
I couldn't even imagine trying to film my own hunt.
Like it's hard enough just get on a damn animal.
So. It's true and and archery is
like a whole nother ball game dude.
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Like, and I know you do some archery hunts.
That's all that I do is archery.I'm like, so yeah, I was like,
let's pick the most difficult thing to try and do in in the
hunting industry and like, I'm going to do that thing and I'm
going to do it over the counter or just try and try out in Utah.
Yeah, yeah, no, it's hard. But I mean, again, like, it can
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be done. And guys do it, you know, I grew
up watching Solo Hunters. I don't know if you've ever seen
that, but it's like Remy Warren,like he was out there filming
like solo hunts with a bow, likewith a Reeker bow and like
getting in on film, which was insane.
And that's kind of that was likelike my men like not he's not my
mentor, but like that's what I looked up to growing up.
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It's like, man, this is this is insane.
Like it's, it's possible, which takes takes a little bit more
effort. What for?
For somebody that is thinking about maybe starting to film
their own hunts and maybe doing a solo, maybe that's breaking
down into two questions. One, like like essential gear
for if you're trying to do it solo.
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And two, if I think the advice that you gave is if you want to
start hunting or filming hunts, don't do your own it.
It seems like the best way to probably learn to do that.
But for someone that's maybe like, hey, I think I want to try
going out and filming it myself.Like what's some essential
equipment that you would recommend?
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And then on the other side, the equipment may be the same.
But yeah, let's just jump into that first part first.
Someone wanted to do it solo. Essential equipment like to get
to try and capture the moment. Yeah, yeah, there.
I mean, man, there's a bunch of gear, but when when it really
comes down to it, the best like camera and and to use is the
camera that you're going to use the most.
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So you everyone has a camera in their pocket, like your phone
takes Dang good videos and and you can put it like a spotting
scope adapter on there and you can take videos through the
spotting scope. You can film yourself on your
phone. Like if if you don't have a
budget to to even buy a camera like you already have one and
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it's going to work. Great, here's what you've got.
Here's what you've got right. That's, that's number one is
like the your excuse should never be, I can't afford a
camera because you already have one.
So now if you, and then if you want to get into like actually
filming and like buy or like, ifyou want to actually buy a
camera, there's a lot of good options for like pretty cheap.
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You could go on Facebook marketplace or eBay and buy a
used camera, like 500 bucks or less.
And it's going to do, it's goingto do great.
It's going to do everything thatthese professional cameras can
do to an extent, right? Like you're, you're, especially
if it's your first camera, you're not, your skills aren't
going to outgrow that camera fora while.
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It's not really worth buying a super expensive camera when
you're just starting out becauseyou're not going to know how to
use half the stuff on there. You're not going to know what it
means. It's probably, it's probably
worse off. You're probably worse off buying
a really expensive camera until you kind of grow into it, right
and learn how to use it. So that's like my first advice
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on, on, on. Some let me pause you right
there. I have a follow up question.
So, OK, taking it back to like just using what you've got,
right? I mean, we all know that people
have separation anxiety from their cell phones, right?
So like they never go anywhere without them.
Even we're out hunting. I think most guys have it in
their pocket. They're checking, you know,
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they're Onyx or, you know, maps,whatever, trying to figure out
how to get the job done when yougo through, when you're going
out on a solo hunt and let's saysomeone's just using their
iPhone, Like, how do you go about?
I mean, do you think of like, OK, I'm going to capture this,
I'm going to capture the drive in, I'm going to capture like
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the set up, setting up camp? Like is that all pre planned?
I mean, to you, it may just be second nature now because you
kind of know what you're doing. But if someone were to try and
do that, like what structure would you tell them to put
together to kind of create like your own little solo?
I mean, it's really a home video, right?
I mean, I was talking, we we've been, you and I both been
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talking with Weston MacArthur and that's what he said.
It's like realistically I get the end of the day.
It's like, yeah, it's great to put it out there, but you're
really kind of just taking like your own home videos and making
it for yourself and just postingit out on, on, you know, the
Internet for people to see. Yeah.
With that setup, like maybe, maybe, yeah, just walk me
through any advice you would give to somebody that's trying
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to capture that. Like, like, how?
Like how do you map it out in your head?
So the way I look at it when, when, especially when I'm
filming myself, and this appliesto when you're filming someone
else too. But I, I do a lot of updates
talking to the camera. And when I talk to the camera, I
do it pretty often normally, like anytime something changes
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or something happens or I or I do something on the hunt, I'm
going to like do an up film, film a little update, right?
And there's three things that I cover in every single update at
a minimum. And it's the past, the present
and the future. So what, what happened?
What did I just do or what just happened?
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What am I doing now and what am I going to do in the future?
So a quick example might be we just drove two hours and pulled
into camp. We got camp set up.
We're packing our bags real quick.
We're going to head out on the glassy knob and hopefully find
some deer, right? So that's, that's first.
That's what you need those, you have to have those to tell your
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story of your hunt. Because the worst thing is when
you get home and you're editing through your footage and it's
like you miss a whole section ofthe hunt or a big decision or
something because you've just forgot to film it.
You miss that piece of the story.
And then once you have that, once you have those talking,
those talking shots, then you can think about supplementing
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those with B roll. So that's the video of you
driving to your spot, putting upyour tent, hiking into your
spot, glassing all that B roll goes over top of or it's kind of
like comes, it comes second. Sometimes you have to film it
ahead of time, but you're, you're, you got to be thinking
kind of about what am I going tobe talking about?
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What do I need to be filming right now to fill that in,
right. And, and so that's how I think
about it is when I'm, when I'm, when I'm filming someone or
filming myself, it's like covering what I need to cover,
talking and then making sure I back that up with some footage
to go over top of that. When I'm, when I'm, when I'm
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filming someone or filming myself, it's like covering what
I need to cover talking and thenmaking sure I back that up with
some footage to go over top of that.
Yeah. And I think that I think that's
great advice. I mean, if it's me talking
myself and I'm out hunting, it'sjust going to be like continual
updates, like still can't find the animals or still can't close
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the distance, still trying to close the distance blew this
can, you know? Well, dude, that I mean, that's
how it goes for me too. Like this year I haunted 11
well, 13 days until I even like found a buck I wanted to shoot.
So I have a bunch of footage from 13 days.
I'm not I'm not going to use it all, but at least I have it
because if it would have happened on day 6 and I just
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gave up filming on day three, like I wouldn't have all that
all that content. So.
And that that buck you were chasing this year for 13 days,
that was, that was a solo archery hunt, correct?
So that was a rifle hunt. I did rifle hunt, kill archery
buck this year. It was about, yeah, it was about
that one I think was like 11 days or so, but only the last
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few days. I was solo on that one.
OK, Yeah, OK, we'll come back tothat.
I want to ask some questions about that.
I mean, you've clearly had a successful year.
It's been fun being on the text thread with you and seeing the
stuff. And I'm like this guy just like
drops animals. That's like all he does.
Second nature. No wonder.
And I'm like Logan, he's like mymind.
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I'm like, this guy just wants tomake it more interesting.
That's why he's trying to capture his hunts now.
Record everything because it's too easy doing it the other way.
But, but, but so, so when you gothrough capture that like, OK,
another question that comes to mind is like, like recharging
your phone, like what's kind of like essential gear for there to
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be able to keep? I mean, 'cause if you're at 11
days and you're like in the backwoods, like how do you keep
like yourself? You're if you're just
documenting with your cell phone, like how do you keep that
thing charged up? Yeah, I mean, just power banks,
right. So I, I use a lot of the dark
energy power banks. I really like those, those
banks. And I can get a few charges on
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my phone off of 1 power bank. And then I, and then if I'm on
a, if I'm on a backpack hunt, I'll bring a solar panel with
me. And anytime it's sunny that
things charge in a power bank ormy phone or whatever I need
charged. And usually I'll have two, maybe
3 power banks on a hunt and I try to not even come close to
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running out of power and keep that solar panel going as much
as possible. And I, I usually really never
come close to running out. If I have two or three good
power banks, they keep my phone charged just fine.
And yeah, like like I'm, I'm on my phone all the time, even
though I have, I have a camera, I'm constantly using my phone
for Onyx or for or filming some phone stuff and, or filming
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through my spotting scope. So it dies pretty quick, but I
charge it once or twice a day with those power banks and it
works just fine. OK audio, do you bother like I
mean would would you just use the audio that the iPhone
captures? Would you use like the DJI mics
or anything like that? Like any recommendations there?
Yeah, the the iPhone is pretty good.
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If I was just filming on a on a phone, I probably wouldn't worry
about audio if I if I was if when I'm filming on a on a DSLR
camera like a nicer nicer camera, the audio on those is
terrible. So I definitely would recommend
getting an external mic and likea wind cover for it because it's
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always windy in the mountains. So yeah, that's, that's kind of
how I would if I was just filming on a phone.
I don't think I'd worry about ittoo much.
The phones do pretty good at it.But those the DJI mics like you
can, they're Bluetooth. So you just all you need is the
mic and then Bluetooth to your phone.
But then you have to use a separate camera software on your
phone. And sometimes they're kind of
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finicky to connect. And so it's a little bit
difficult, especially if you're if you're on a hunt when things
happen really, really quick. So.
Yeah. No, that's good.
So OK, shifting gears, like let's say somebody wants to,
they've just got money burning ahole in their pocket and they're
like, I want to go out. Camera recommendation.
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And let's say you can only buy 2lenses.
What lenses would you get? So lenses I have AI have a lens
on my camera that stays there and it's not a very expensive
lens like so seriously, I don't think I've switched lenses in
the last like month when especially self filming 'cause I
don't really need to and it's it's a 24 to one O 5F4 lens.
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It's like 1000 or 1200 bucks. It's not an expensive lens as
far as lenses go, but it's awesome and there's sometimes
there's times where I would where I wish I had a little bit
better low light capability likea little lower aperture, but I
honestly like it. It works great.
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I like like I'm, I'm totally serious when I say I haven't
taken it off in like a month because I just, I don't need to
when I'm, when I'm self filming a hunt, I it has all the, the
zoom I need and I can zoom out film myself.
It's just fine. Nice all-purpose lens.
It's a great all-purpose lens. If I was going to bring anything
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else, it'd probably be somethingwith just some more zoom, maybe
like 100 to 400, maybe a 70 to 200, something in in that range
because you can get a little bitbetter wildlife footage through
that. But I do most of my like long
distance footage just through a spotting scope and my phone and
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it works pretty good. OK.
So again, back to the budget option, like if you're trying
to, you know, capture something,set up your spotting scope.
Yeah, slap, slap it on just record, OK.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, and I'll film kill shots
through my spotting scope if I'mby myself.
So set my spotting scope up withmy phone on that on the deer and
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then set my camera up filming myself and and take the shot.
And if as long as as long as thesituation has to work.
That sounds so overwhelming to me.
It's sometimes tough 'cause it'slike, yeah, that's if the deer's
moving too much. It's, it's, it's just gonna be a
little tough and it just, it's up to you.
Does is the is the shot, like, is killing the deer more
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important than getting it on film?
Like, yeah, that's, that's a personal thing you got to think
about. Yeah, yeah, that's cool.
So, OK, so people out there, I mean, we've talked about the
filming hunting, you know, you know, solo or, or with, with the
crew. I I mean, I, I guess if you're
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helping somebody, the last thingyou want to do is to be the guy
that like blows the stock for him.
And and we, I've talked a coupleother guys about that.
So I don't know that we need to get into that.
But yeah, if I'm, if I'm the person helping somebody hunt,
like there's no worry. Like they're 100% it's going to
be blown. So anyway, so, so shifting
gears, what has what's been likesince you've started filming
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your hands? Is there one that's kind of like
stood out to you as like that? You know, it's like maybe has
like the most meaning to you. You know, I guess like a cool 1
is like the first, the first film that I ever put out that
was one of my hunts that was a solo film.
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It was a deer hunt and a rifle of deer hunt.
And it actually to this day still has the highest views on
my channel. And this was years ago and this
was before I like really knew what I was doing.
Like the colour greatest terrible.
The audio's decent, the storytelling is like subpar, but
it's like the best. Jones worst critic man.
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I it's so it's true, it's true, but, but I mean I, I know I can
make a better film nowadays, butit is like the number one video
on my YouTube channel right now like it has the most views,
which is cool 'cause it's like the first one I ever put out,
you know, and I killed a decent buck.
It's not a giant by any means, but like, that stands out as
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like I, I just needed to do it and like go film a hunt, put one
together and post it. And without that, I think that's
where a lot of people get stuck is they just keep asking like
how, how, how do I do this? But they don't ever just go out
and do it and figure it out. And that's not the first film I
ever made. I had films, plenty of films
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before that that I did for buddies and tried and tried to
film and they just, they didn't work out.
I just, I learned I learned thatI need to film more or film
different types of stuff to actually make something.
And that's the first one that I like put together and posted and
was and was proud of when I put it out.
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And it it, it like it's, it's just it's kind of cool to me
that it's like the the number one video still on my on my
channel. So that was pretty cool.
That's awesome. So is it it was it the
experience of you just deciding like, hey, I'm going to do it?
Is that kind of what why that one means so much to you?
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Like you just finally like did it?
Was it the hunt itself? Was it just the fact that you
were able to get both done, likecapture it and you know, have a
successful harvest like punch that tag?
Like what? Maybe share a little bit of your
thoughts on that. Yeah, sure.
I mean, yeah, I think it's the fact that like I I captured it
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how I wanted to and I was able to put it together.
So when you're like when I firststarted filming hunts, I'd
always I'd always like there it.When you go film a hunt, it's
easy to just like film it and think that you've captured
everything and then you get backto the editing room a month
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later and you're like, I don't even know how to make anything
out of this. There's I don't have everything
that I, I thought I had like there's no storyline here.
So it takes a few tries and, anditerations to get it right and
to figure it out. It's like that.
That was kind of the one of the first times where I really put
it together right in a way that I was able to make a story out
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of it. And I was like I said, like I
watched like solo hunters when Iwas a kid.
Like this was the first film that I like I was solo.
I filmed everything. I got the kill shot, I got me
shooting it and I got, I was able to just capture the whole
thing and put it together and, and that that was cool to me.
That's just like, I can do it. Like there's no reason to not.
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And, and since then I I filmed Ithink every hunt except for one
of of my own. It's just like it's just become
second nature since then becauseI, I just, I like having the,
the memories, The one hunt that I didn't film.
I'm kind of bummed that I didn'ttry.
I didn't film it. And what was that?
It was my outcome last year. At the time.
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I was like, I've been, I've beenfilming a bunch and I was like,
I just want to like go hunt. Like I need to get reignited
with this passion a little bit and just like go hunt and not
worry about having a camera. And it was super fun and I'm
glad I, I like, I don't regret not filming it, but there's
times I'm like, man, that would be, that would be a sweet film
if I could have captured that, you know, so.
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I think it's good sometimes to just like be in the moment, you
know, I mean, kind of like we were talking a little bit
earlier, like everyone's so like, you know, connected to
their phones and, and having to have that instant dopamine hit.
I do think it's nice to sometimes like take a little
break, you know, I mean, like, like we like here on this
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podcast, like I've been going, going, going.
We started cranking out two episodes and then hunting season
came and like, I mean, it's beenpretty sparse.
Like the episodes. I mean, I've got, I've got a
bunch of got a bunch of episodesqueued up.
We're getting ready to drop herejust now.
It's like kind of like what you said, it's back to the editing.
And I don't really do much editing to these other than just
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kind of put some intros different, I mean, different
things like that. It's not much.
It's more just like the exporting time.
But it's, it is nice sometimes to just decompress.
And I think it's sad that like for those that are in like the
influencer space, I guess if youwill, or the creative space,
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it's like the algorithms, if youtake a break sometimes like it
likes to kick in the pants a little bit.
And so then you've got like thatPTSD.
It's like, well, I'm, you know, I'm trying to build this
business, I'm trying to build this podcast, this, you know,
creative media company. And if I take a little breather
or I don't record something, you're going to miss out.
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But I feel like sometimes you need that.
So then when you decide that when you do come back and jump
back in, you kind of hit like that reset button and you're
ready to go back in all in. And I, I think most, I think
most people understand that, youknow, as far as like when you
talk about like followers, subscribers and people that are
just interested in your content.But for whatever reason, man,
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the powers that be at the socialmedia world and YouTube, it's
like you take a break and they're like, we're going to
punish you for that. But that that would be that
would be my my one complaint because it's like, it's not like
the people that are interested have gone.
They just make you work that much harder to kind of re
engage. But well, that's cool that you
were able to go out and and capture that.
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Tell me, tell me a little bit about that hunt.
I mean, so you don't regret it. But what was?
Maybe tell me a little bit if you don't mind sharing, what was
special about it? Where there is that little itch
Like man, that would have been fun to have documented.
Yeah, so I, it was my first archery elk kill, so.
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So that was cool. That would have been something
cool to have on film. It, it was I, I've, I've haunted
archery elk a little bit, but not a ton like here and there
just for fun to go out with buddies and we just like mess
around and try and kill something and we never did, you
know, but. Sounds like that sounds like me.
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Exactly right. I mean, it's fun, but like we we
never got close. And so last year I was coming
off of a hunt where I killed a buck with my bow and I was
feeling pretty confident in myself and my abilities.
And I was like, yeah, I'm going to go out here and and I'm going
to kill an elk. Like it's going to be easy,
right? And I it took me a few days, but
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like, I got it done and it was my first time killing an elk
with my bow. Now that was cool.
That was special. I got to I was totally solo like
by myself in grizzly bear country.
Like it was awesome. I loved it and I after I shot it
like my wife came up and her herdad came up and like we all we
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packed it out like it was just acool experience to have and and
to to live and like just like picture perfect elk hunting
there. The elk were going crazy every
day. Like I was in range on bulls
every day. And if I just had to finally
come together eventually, it just took some time, you know,
so. Did you go out with the mindset,
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like as far as this one with your archery where you're like,
hey, like I want to find like a big boy or just like, hey, I'm
going to find like, you know, look for the right opportunity
to present itself. Yeah, it was.
I wasn't worried about how big it was, what it scored.
I was just trying to kill an elkhonestly, like.
Yeah. Yeah.
So you get it done, the wife comes up, you say it was your
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dad or your father-in-law. father-in-law.
OK, so they come up help pack itout.
Was it, was it like a, was it a long pack out?
Was it not too bad like? Wasn't bad, it was like a mile
and a half downhill so it wasn'tbad at all.
Actually it was. It was a pretty good, pretty
easy pack out. Took a couple trips though.
I can't wait to feel the weight of the elk quarter on my back
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and I and I hope it's like 8 miles.
Yeah, you won't, you won't hope I maybe should, I maybe should
have taken that back. I I hope it's like a quarter
mile from camp, like I'm walkingout one just out of dumb luck
come stumbling in and it's like,hey, it's my time.
Take me baby. Well, that's, that's cool.
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So have have you got any more hunts going on the rest of the
year? So I have one, I I have another
deer tag if I want and I am going on a hunt next week as
we're recording this. So first week in November I'll
be out on a backpack hunt. Just rifle over the counter,
deer tag and it's a good time ofyear to be out.
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We're going to be in an area that's not super.
There's not, there's not a high density, but, but there's quite
a few deer there. Yeah, we're backpacking in.
We're probably going to go in about, I don't know, 5 to 10
miles depending on how the snow looks in the country and
everything. It's kind of a spot that I've
never been before. So me and two buddies are going
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to head in there on that and andthen there's some opportunity if
I want as a as a resident in Idaho with over the counter tag,
there's some other opportunitiesif I, if I don't kill a buck
there, there's still some stuff open.
I don't think I'm going to spendtoo much time out looking
though, unless I somehow stumbleupon like a big buck and I want
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to try and kill it. I don't need AI don't need
another deer in my freezer rightnow.
It's my freezer is full and thenand then after that.
Well, if you do stumble upon oneand you can't find a freezer to
put it in, just give me a call. There you go all.
Right. Yeah, dude, my wife, she killed
a moose this year and then I've killed 2 deers so far and we
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still have meat in our freezer from last year.
So that's awesome. Like it's, it's great.
Yeah, it's great. We eat a lot.
We eat a lot. We eat meat every day and then
give it away to some friends andfamily and stuff.
So it's cool. That's awesome.
That's way cool. So are you filming any more
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hunts like that aren't your own?Have have you got any projects
that you're working on that? I mean, I don't know if it's
like you've got like non disclosures or something, but
anything fun that comes to mind?Yeah, I, I don't have anything
else. I had one that that got
cancelled. That was in December, so not
doing that one anymore. So nothing else.
It's I have a lot of stuff to edit though.
I think I probably got 5 or 6 films to edit.
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Most of them are my own that aregoing to be coming out next year
and then a couple from just someclients I filmed this year.
So lots of. Yeah, dude, you're out there
grinding, man. You are boots on the ground,
dude. I remember we had one call with
some with some guys and you werelike, I might not be able to
jump on the call. And then you sent a picture
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through with a nice buck that was down.
And I think if memory serves, when you hopped on the video
portion portion for a minute, you had, you had a buck on your
back that you were packing out. So you, you, you don't waste
much time. You, you keep busy.
And I, I think it's fun. I think it's awesome what you're
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doing. I, I think, you know, as I've
been falling and watching like your films, I mean all of them.
I, I just think you do a great job and, and documenting and
it's, it's a ton of fun to see Yeah.
And excited. You know, I, I, I don't know
that we're quite ready to drop the bomb on the projects that
we're working on. You know, there's a few things
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that that we're still trying to get finalized, but yeah,
definitely like stay tuned, folks.
We got we got more to come and maybe Logan can make a killer
out of me yet, but. I I hope so, dude, it's going,
it's going to be, it's going to be pretty cool.
Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun.
So have you done just shifting gears, have you done any
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predator hunting A. Little bit me and some buddies
will go call coyotes every once in a while.
Oh, I, I mean, I guess we do black bears every year.
So I've killed a handful of bears now over the last few
years and then some coyotes. And I mean, if I saw a wolf, I'm
going to shoot it or a lioness if it's in season, you know, But
I'm not really. I'm not really seeking those out
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too much. Yeah.
Yeah. I, I'm looking forward to
getting out on, on black bear hunt.
I don't know why that sounds so alluring to me.
Maybe because they're probably alot easier to shoot and get
close to than than a buck or a or or or a bowl for me.
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But yeah, we've got some guys that, that we're, that we're
talking with and yeah, we're going to get out.
I think I got 2 bear hunts I'm going to be doing next year so
excited to get out and do that. Nice.
Yeah, that's cool. I know some guys love it.
Yeah. Yeah.
So what? What do you like about bear
hunting? So I I love just like the how
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how I hunt them and the country hunt them and I don't do like
bait bear baits or run dogs. It's all spot in stock.
And so it's like steep, nasty, rocky Cliff country that's like
you'd, you'd never set foot in it except for when you shoot a
bear because it's like crazy. I just love that.
So Logan just thinks I want to go punish myself for four or
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five days. It's kind of how it is, dude.
Yeah, some of the bear hunts I've been on are like the
hardest physical hunts. I I've, I go on, which is crazy
because it's like, I just think of them as a fun animal to hunt.
But yeah, they bring you to somecrazy places.
What What's the most difficult part about hunting bear for you?
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Doing the spot and stock. You know, it's, I don't know, I
mean, with bears, it's I think that it's not that once you find
them and once you kind of know the areas they're they're living
in, you can usually find more bears.
Sometimes it's, it's kind of hard to find that area that has,
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that has good bears, good bear hunting.
You know, some, I mean, there's areas like the I, where I've
been and we've seen 30 bears in seven days.
And then we go to the same area,but like maybe a week earlier in
the year and we only see like 5 bears.
So timing it is a little difficult with bears.
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You have to have at the right time, even if you're in a good
area. I'm, I'm fortunate enough to
hunt the exact same area for thelast three or four years and
every year is different. Some years we just see more
bears and some years we see lessbears.
And some of it's kind of the time that the snow year might
depend on stuff. I don't know what other factors
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go into it, but just finding that, finding that that spot and
finding the bears can be tough because once you find them,
they're usually going to stick around.
Depending on the time of year. Sometimes they move a lot,
sometimes they stick, stick around and then yeah, I mean
killing them and packing them out, yeah, that's that's tough.
But like Pat the pack outs just it it the Hunt's over, you just
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got to get it out so. Yeah, Yeah, that's awesome.
What would you say is the most like overrated piece of hunting
equipment? That's a good question.
That's a really good. Question, I put you on the spot.
I completely like shifted gears on you, but.
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Yeah. Oh, let's see.
I might think for a second aboutthis.
What's the most overrated piece of gear I can think of?
A lot of pieces of gear that are, I would say are underrated.
OK, well let's let's start therethen.
Let's do that. I'll tell you what.
Most everybody says it's camo. Oh, OK.
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I guess that's, I didn't think about that.
Yeah, a camo pattern, yeah. I don't think it's necessary.
I like it sometimes, but I don'tthink it's necessary for sure.
Most of my stuff's not camo so. So OK, underrated.
Let's talk about most underratedpiece of hunting equipment.
So a couple things like #1 whichit's probably not very
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underrated, but I think it's a lot more important than people
think it is, is like good optics, people, a lot of people
put a big emphasis on it. But when you, when you have good
optics and you know how to use them, if you're, if you're
really deliberate about how you use your optics, is probably
more important than than what kind of optics you're using and
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how. Like when you're glassing, how
are you glassing? Are you glassing off a tripod or
are you, are you glassing? Are you actually glassing all
morning or are you just like glancing and then checking your
phone for 30 minutes and then glassing again?
Because I sometimes I find myself doing that.
And so making sure you have, youhave the good optics, but then
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you're actually using them, right, I think is important.
And So what advice would you give to somebody?
Because again, this podcast is focused on people that are new
to hunting. Yeah, that don't know how to
kill anything or I'm not saying everybody, I'm talking about me
in that instance. But when you say people don't
use them right, like what advicewould you give to somebody
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that's out glassing and how to properly use their optics to be
able to put them like in the game?
Yeah, great question. So optics, so when you're, when
you're when I when, like when, so when I sit down to glass the
hillside, it's like it's really easy just to glass all the
openings and see if there's a deer there or not, or an elk.
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And it's, you can, you might sitthere all morning and, and a
couple of deer might come out. But really where the deer are is
they're living in the cover and on the edges of of the timber.
And I mean, elk are going to be similar, but they're also going
to be out more often. But the principle that I guess
I'm trying to get to is like like really glassing edge, edge
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habitat, timber country. A lot of the deer I find are
already like in timber and I'm actually glassing through the
trees to find them. And the only way to do that is
to sit down to get your binal steady on a tripod or or
something similar and, and just pan and glass.
And you want to check, you obviously you want to check
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those, the, the easy areas first, those openings where,
where it's easy to see, but thenreally get really get tight on
on all those that country. I would also say something that
I don't see a lot of newer hunters do is find vantage
points that you can see a lot ofcountry even if you're like too
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far away to get a shot at something in the from that
point, if you can see a lot of country, your chances of finding
an animal just go up so much higher because you can just see
more country if you just limit yourself.
To glassing 1 little Canyon and that's all you can see and then
you just sit there all day. Like there might not even be an
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animal that walks through that Canyon all day, but there might
be an animal 2 canyons away fromyou but you just needed to get
back on the opposite Ridge or something to be able to see that
the whole country. So getting back, glassing a
bunch of country and just takingyour time is super important I
think. That's great advice.
When I first started going out trying to like spot stuff, I
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would always try and like tuck myself in to where like, you
know, I'm not seen and I had a very narrow range of vision,
right? Because yeah, trees, I've got
cover. And so I can't really open up
the country. And that that was one of the
things that my buddy Tyson kind of helped me this year.
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We were able to see a lot more animals.
And that was one thing. He's like you, He's like, you
need to get set up here. So like you can see this Canyon.
You can see that Ridge down overthere.
If something comes up, you know,he put me, he taught me kind of
how to get into the right vantage point to, to, you know,
what you were saying to be able to cover a lot more country.
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And it's kind of amazing, like what your peripheral vision can
pick up, you know, because prior, prior to opening season
for archery, I mean, we were on this area, I was in, I'm like,
oh, I'm like, this is going to be easy.
I'm going to get it done this year.
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And I mean, for like 2 months itwas just buck after buck after
buck after buck after buck. I mean, they were, I mean, if
there was one, there was typically six or seven of them
around. And I mean, there was one day I
think we saw 17 and then openingday came and I'm out there at
the butt crack of dawn get down the place that I've seen these
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bucks for months and months and months and months.
And I'm like, where the hell dideverything go?
Like they're gone. It's almost like they got the
memo too. They got the calendar like, OK,
boys, let's just tease them until this date at this time.
And then we're all going to haveto like, move out and, you know,
we'll be safe because everyone'sgoing to think that we're right
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here. Yeah, yeah, dude, that's tough.
And that that happens too. And and sometimes deer will kind
of move depending on the the season, but but just like you're
saying, like opening day comes and they get pressure, they hear
those ATVs rolling up and like some of those deer are just
going to move. They're.
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Like they're here, boys. Yeah, pretty much.
Make yourself scarce. Yeah.
Well, that's awesome. Well, Logan, hey, man, as we
wrap up here, like, first of all, just really appreciate you
making the time to come on to the podcast.
I think you got a wealth of knowledge.
And we'll make sure everyone go follow him.
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It's Logan dot Romney on social,Correct.
We'll make sure that we put links in the show notes.
So if you're not following him, make sure you head on over.
Give him a follow. But as we wrap up here, Logan,
what would you say to like, likewhat's one piece of advice that
you would give to a new hunter that that, you know, let's let's
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say they're let's say they're just archery hunter, right?
Going out, whether it's a buck or deer or, or whatever it may
be. What advice would you give them
to help them kind of along the way?
Like something that maybe like, man, I wish somebody would have
told me that 20 years ago and maybe your dad or somebody told
you 20 years ago. Yeah, 20 years ago I was three
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years old, so I don't know if I would have.
Learned how to great memory. Just kidding.
So yeah, Ryan, that's a good question.
So I think the biggest thing that I would say is like just be
relentless. There's, there's almost every
hunt and success that I have hadthis year is because I just
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stuck with it. Like like seriously, I, I didn't
kill like the 1st 10 days of every hunt I've been on this
this year. I haven't killed anything.
It's those last like few days where I finally got it done and
figured it out and found the deer or whatever, right.
And I think that's just, that's the biggest thing.
And the, the people I hunt with who kill the most animals are
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the guys that can just stick with it and not give up and not
get frustrated and discouraged for too long, right?
Like they might get frustrated at something that happens on the
day that might blow a stock or someone bombs a deer.
But you just gotta pick yourselfback up and stay after it.
And it's like hunt from like, orlike first light to end of the
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day and like you're out there tohunt.
Don't get distracted. That's what that's what you're
there for. That's why you're there.
It's like home's still there. And it's hard.
It's hard. It's hard for me.
And I hunt like, like I've been hunting my whole life.
But it's sometimes it is hard because you get discouraged
because you're not finding animals.
You want to move areas. And it, it, it's there's a lot
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that goes through through my mind when I'm out hunting and
just not having success. But man, I've just found that
the more you stick with it, the if you don't kill anything,
you're just, you're going to be better off for it.
But the chances of you actually harvesting animal just increase
because the more you, yeah, justthe longer you can stick with
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it, the better, dude. Yeah, I, I get it.
I mean, I love it. I get just enough, you know,
like I said, I had this bull come over the Ridge that just
didn't have a bolt egg for that unit.
But it was it was a ton of fun to see him.
Like they're real. They exist in the wild.
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You know, I had gone out my first time ever went Elk County
and I had one at like 30 yards. Didn't have a shot on Vital so I
didn't didn't take it, but I waslike hooked and then went
through like 4 years of just like nothing.
I can hear him, I can't see him,I can't find them.
They're not coming to me. They're not talking.
And that's the one thing in Utahabout the archery hunt is like
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they really didn't start talkinguntil like the last two or three
days. And even then they weren't like,
well, I'm going to leave my, I'mgoing to leave my cows and go
see what's going on down there. They they talk back and then
they would bounce. But yeah, I had gone out and
just like beat myself up. I mean, I got a full time job.
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I think it's great for guys. I mean, I'm envious the guys are
able to go out and put in 10/11/13 days.
And there's guys that have full time jobs that go and do that.
I'm just not in that position yet.
But I had gone out for like 3 days.
I had it was like my 4th time going out like trying to get on
this buck in this unit and just couldn't get it done.
And my truck, I had to take it in the shop right get it fixed
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up. So I had a rental, not my not my
truck, rented a truck went out, did my hunt not didn't get
anything. I'm driving back.
I'm flustered, I'm tired, like for whatever reason, like I do
not sleep when I'm out hunting. Like I just I can't get
comfortable like I mean, so it'slike 3 days like you're tired as
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all get out. Anyway, I'm driving home,
everything's going good. I'm in the middle of this
Canyon. It's like a five mile stretch
where there's no cell service. All of a sudden Bing, this light
comes on air pressure low and itwent from air pressure low to
flat in a matter of like one minute.
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So like I pull over like they didn't have well, I didn't know
where the tools were. I looked all the other places
like in every other truck that I've had, trying to find the
tools to be able to change the flat couldn't get it.
I'm tired, like I've got like everything just like loaded to
the hilt in the bed of the truck.
And I'm just, I mean, I, I'm stuck there for probably an hour
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and a half. I finally find the equipment I
need to be able to change the Tyler tire, not Tyler change the
tire and I finally get it done. When I come out of the Canyon, I
like, I call my wife. She's like, I thought you were
going to be home. You know, a while ago I was
probably 2 1/2 hours from home and before I left camp, I had
cell service. I called her.
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I'm like, I'm leaving. And anyway, that whole fiasco
happens. I finally call her.
I'm like, I'm done. I'm done.
I'm like, hunting's not for me. Like the hunting gods hate me.
They're just telling me like, bedone.
I get home, pack it up. You know, I mean, at this time,
it's like, I don't even know. I feel like it was Sunday,
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probably like 4 or 6:00. And this is to your relentless
part. I'm just like, I'm done.
I come in, I like, I'm like, I'mnot even going to unload the
truck. Like I'm done.
I hate this. I come in, sit down, have
dinner, crash out, have a littlenap for like an hour.
And then at 10:00 my I text my buddy Dustin and I was like, do
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you want to go out tomorrow morning?
And he's like, it's like, I thought you were done.
I'm like, I'm not done. I'm like, I'm not going to let
this thing beat me. So anyway, so we leave.
I like again I've gone like 3 nights of not really having any
sleep at all Wake up to 30 meet him.
We drive up. We by 9:00 well by 9:00 AM we
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had been chasing bulls on this mountain and they were talking
to us and we I thought for sure we were going to get it done.
But we had covered like a like 10.2 miles by like 8:00 AM and
it was just, it was, it was brutal, but I loved it.
So it's like, OK, like they're talking again.
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I'm finding them. And obviously we couldn't ever,
you know, the same thing. We're we're right on the border
of like Deseret. So like you can hear him and one
kept coming over and like he would talk to us close the
distance. You could hear him getting
closed. And then he's like, not
interested. I'm going to stay over here.
But that relentlessness, like when it does beat you up because
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there's guys that go out bow hunting.
I mean, Weston who I was just just, you know, I just recorded
with him this week too. He's like, took him seven years
to get his first kill with the bow.
Yeah. Have an elk and it's just like,
you just have to keep after it. So I, I keep hearing stories
like that and like, as I check the years off, I'm like, I'm
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getting closer, baby. I'm getting closer to getting it
done. So anyway, yeah.
Absolutely did. It's it's a lot of fun and I
think that it's great advice. Just be relentless.
The more time you can put out there.
I mean, if you can't go for 10-11 days, but you can be a
weekend warrior, go be a weekendwarrior.
Just if it's something that you love, you're going to do it.
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And you'll find out real quick. If you don't like hunting,
because we get the Backcountry, you have a pack on you and
you're out there dirty and nastyand not getting on anything like
it will test your will for sure.But anyway, well, Logan,
apologize, I went on a little rant there myself.
But guys, please, again, if you're not following him, go
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over to Logan dot Romney on the socials.
Just Google his name. You can find him on YouTube as
well. Give him a follow.
Tons of great information that he puts out and just a great
dude. So Logan, thank you again for
for being on the show and thank you for listening to the Hunt
Stealth Podcast. We are the fastest growing
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podcast in the United States. Stay safe and God bless.
You're listening to the Hunt Stealth Podcast with Ryan
Uffins, the podcast where we dive head first into the wild,
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the untamed. Together, we'll explore the
strategies and stories that leadto success in the great
outdoors. Hey folks, welcome to another
(00:22):
episode of the Hunt Stealth Podcast.
Excited to have a special guest,Logan Romney on today, also
known as Creative Hunter, founder of Creative Hunter
Media. Logan, dude, appreciate you
joining me today, brother. Yeah, dude, absolutely.
Thanks for having me on. And I've been excited about
this, known you for a couple couple months now.
I guess we're starting to maybe look at working on some projects
(00:44):
together. And yeah, I'm excited, dude.
Yeah, I'm excited to learn from you.
So for folks that maybe aren't familiar with you, maybe just
share a little bit about your background, like how you know
you're you're growing, you grew up hunting and kind of how you
transitioned into the creative side of of the hunting world, if
you would. Yeah, yeah, dude.
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So I, I haunted growing up as long as I can remember.
I'd go out with my dad, but you know, before I even was old
enough to have A tag in my pocket and just follow him
around. And I grew up doing that.
So I, I, I haunted forever and got out of high school.
It was like COVID time frame. So I had a ton of time and just
not much going on. So I bought a camera and started
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taking photos. I was really into the wildlife
photography and started doing that for about a year.
And then I discovered some of these guys out here like Stephen
Drake and Zach Batlin who are shooting photos for hunting,
right? Like they were getting paid to
shoot photos while they were outhunting.
And I thought that was the coolest thing and kind of
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started down that path of like, how do I make this a career?
How do I get paid for this? So while I was going to school,
going to college, I also was kind of starting this
photography business and learning how to do it and grow
and and capture hunts through both video and photography.
And just at first it was like filming buddies hunts for free
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and just like taking a bunch of photos and making a film forum
just for the heck of it. Like some, sometimes they pay
for my food and travel and sometimes I just go because I
wanted to learn. And yeah, eventually it just
kind of led into this thing where I started just doing it
more and getting paid for it. And now just this last year, I
started Creative Hunter Media. So it's just a media agency and
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it's just me right now. But I work with a lot of other
creatives and brands and that's what we do is full time content
creation, making hunting films, making content for the hunting
industry. Well, and you recently also went
out with somebody who's pretty big into making films and
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gritty. Didn't you go out and help him
with the film film one of his hunts recently?
Yeah, just helping him film somesome some trips over the summer.
Just it was one trip, but we've been chatting.
We'll probably gonna do some more stuff in the future.
But yeah, he's awesome. I love Brian Cole.
Well, I mean, that's I think that's you're being humble about
it, but that's like a big deal because I mean, he's pretty
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particular about how he wants his hunts films.
So I'll toot your horn a little bit for you.
I think that's awesome. Yeah.
Brian's a great dude and and thefilms that he puts together, he
he just keeps getting better andbetter and better.
It's fun to see everything that he's working on and and it's fun
to see like you as I mean, I've been following you for a while
now and kind of seeing your transition into what you're
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doing. So was it, Well, I already know
the answer to this, but for people that are out there that
are thinking like, hey, I'm going to start filming my hunts
and and documenting them, what was that transition like?
How difficult was that? Well, that's a good question.
Like filming your own hunts is so much harder than just filming
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someone else's. Like when you have to be the
hunter and the camera guy and you have to try and get
everything you want to make a good film, like that's, that's
really hard. I kind of did some of it, but I
really learned how to like make a film filming other people.
And so people ask me that a lot.It's just like, like, how do I
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get into it? How do I film my own hunts?
It's like, well, you should probably get some experience
filming some other people's hunts first because then you
don't have to worry about makingdecisions on the hunt.
You don't have to worry about like, like to get a kill shot
when you're by yourself trying to film yourself.
Like you have a couple cameras set up and it's like an animal's
out there, like doing unpredictable things, like you
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might not even have time to set that up.
And so that's tough. Well, yeah, dude, and the guys
like me that are dogs that have been hunting for the past, you
know what, five years now and have yet to even kill anything.
I couldn't even imagine trying to film my own hunt.
Like it's hard enough just get on a damn animal.
So. It's true and and archery is
like a whole nother ball game dude.
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Like, and I know you do some archery hunts.
That's all that I do is archery.I'm like, so yeah, I was like,
let's pick the most difficult thing to try and do in in the
hunting industry and like, I'm going to do that thing and I'm
going to do it over the counter or just try and try out in Utah.
Yeah, yeah, no, it's hard. But I mean, again, like, it can
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be done. And guys do it, you know, I grew
up watching Solo Hunters. I don't know if you've ever seen
that, but it's like Remy Warren,like he was out there filming
like solo hunts with a bow, likewith a Reeker bow and like
getting in on film, which was insane.
And that's kind of that was likelike my men like not he's not my
mentor, but like that's what I looked up to growing up.
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It's like, man, this is this is insane.
Like it's, it's possible, which takes takes a little bit more
effort. What for?
For somebody that is thinking about maybe starting to film
their own hunts and maybe doing a solo, maybe that's breaking
down into two questions. One, like like essential gear
for if you're trying to do it solo.
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And two, if I think the advice that you gave is if you want to
start hunting or filming hunts, don't do your own it.
It seems like the best way to probably learn to do that.
But for someone that's maybe like, hey, I think I want to try
going out and filming it myself.Like what's some essential
equipment that you would recommend?
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And then on the other side, the equipment may be the same.
But yeah, let's just jump into that first part first.
Someone wanted to do it solo. Essential equipment like to get
to try and capture the moment. Yeah, yeah, there.
I mean, man, there's a bunch of gear, but when when it really
comes down to it, the best like camera and and to use is the
camera that you're going to use the most.
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So you everyone has a camera in their pocket, like your phone
takes Dang good videos and and you can put it like a spotting
scope adapter on there and you can take videos through the
spotting scope. You can film yourself on your
phone. Like if if you don't have a
budget to to even buy a camera like you already have one and
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it's going to work. Great, here's what you've got.
Here's what you've got right. That's, that's number one is
like the your excuse should never be, I can't afford a
camera because you already have one.
So now if you, and then if you want to get into like actually
filming and like buy or like, ifyou want to actually buy a
camera, there's a lot of good options for like pretty cheap.
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You could go on Facebook marketplace or eBay and buy a
used camera, like 500 bucks or less.
And it's going to do, it's goingto do great.
It's going to do everything thatthese professional cameras can
do to an extent, right? Like you're, you're, especially
if it's your first camera, you're not, your skills aren't
going to outgrow that camera fora while.
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It's not really worth buying a super expensive camera when
you're just starting out becauseyou're not going to know how to
use half the stuff on there. You're not going to know what it
means. It's probably, it's probably
worse off. You're probably worse off buying
a really expensive camera until you kind of grow into it, right
and learn how to use it. So that's like my first advice
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on, on, on. Some let me pause you right
there. I have a follow up question.
So, OK, taking it back to like just using what you've got,
right? I mean, we all know that people
have separation anxiety from their cell phones, right?
So like they never go anywhere without them.
Even we're out hunting. I think most guys have it in
their pocket. They're checking, you know,
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they're Onyx or, you know, maps,whatever, trying to figure out
how to get the job done when yougo through, when you're going
out on a solo hunt and let's saysomeone's just using their
iPhone, Like, how do you go about?
I mean, do you think of like, OK, I'm going to capture this,
I'm going to capture the drive in, I'm going to capture like
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the set up, setting up camp? Like is that all pre planned?
I mean, to you, it may just be second nature now because you
kind of know what you're doing. But if someone were to try and
do that, like what structure would you tell them to put
together to kind of create like your own little solo?
I mean, it's really a home video, right?
I mean, I was talking, we we've been, you and I both been
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talking with Weston MacArthur and that's what he said.
It's like realistically I get the end of the day.
It's like, yeah, it's great to put it out there, but you're
really kind of just taking like your own home videos and making
it for yourself and just postingit out on, on, you know, the
Internet for people to see. Yeah.
With that setup, like maybe, maybe, yeah, just walk me
through any advice you would give to somebody that's trying
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to capture that. Like, like, how?
Like how do you map it out in your head?
So the way I look at it when, when, especially when I'm
filming myself, and this appliesto when you're filming someone
else too. But I, I do a lot of updates
talking to the camera. And when I talk to the camera, I
do it pretty often normally, like anytime something changes
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or something happens or I or I do something on the hunt, I'm
going to like do an up film, film a little update, right?
And there's three things that I cover in every single update at
a minimum. And it's the past, the present
and the future. So what, what happened?
What did I just do or what just happened?
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What am I doing now and what am I going to do in the future?
So a quick example might be we just drove two hours and pulled
into camp. We got camp set up.
We're packing our bags real quick.
We're going to head out on the glassy knob and hopefully find
some deer, right? So that's, that's first.
That's what you need those, you have to have those to tell your
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story of your hunt. Because the worst thing is when
you get home and you're editing through your footage and it's
like you miss a whole section ofthe hunt or a big decision or
something because you've just forgot to film it.
You miss that piece of the story.
And then once you have that, once you have those talking,
those talking shots, then you can think about supplementing
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those with B roll. So that's the video of you
driving to your spot, putting upyour tent, hiking into your
spot, glassing all that B roll goes over top of or it's kind of
like comes, it comes second. Sometimes you have to film it
ahead of time, but you're, you're, you got to be thinking
kind of about what am I going tobe talking about?
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What do I need to be filming right now to fill that in,
right. And, and so that's how I think
about it is when I'm, when I'm, when I'm filming someone or
filming myself, it's like covering what I need to cover,
talking and then making sure I back that up with some footage
to go over top of that. When I'm, when I'm, when I'm
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filming someone or filming myself, it's like covering what
I need to cover talking and thenmaking sure I back that up with
some footage to go over top of that.
Yeah. And I think that I think that's
great advice. I mean, if it's me talking
myself and I'm out hunting, it'sjust going to be like continual
updates, like still can't find the animals or still can't close
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the distance, still trying to close the distance blew this
can, you know? Well, dude, that I mean, that's
how it goes for me too. Like this year I haunted 11
well, 13 days until I even like found a buck I wanted to shoot.
So I have a bunch of footage from 13 days.
I'm not I'm not going to use it all, but at least I have it
because if it would have happened on day 6 and I just
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gave up filming on day three, like I wouldn't have all that
all that content. So.
And that that buck you were chasing this year for 13 days,
that was, that was a solo archery hunt, correct?
So that was a rifle hunt. I did rifle hunt, kill archery
buck this year. It was about, yeah, it was about
that one I think was like 11 days or so, but only the last
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few days. I was solo on that one.
OK, Yeah, OK, we'll come back tothat.
I want to ask some questions about that.
I mean, you've clearly had a successful year.
It's been fun being on the text thread with you and seeing the
stuff. And I'm like this guy just like
drops animals. That's like all he does.
Second nature. No wonder.
And I'm like Logan, he's like mymind.
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I'm like, this guy just wants tomake it more interesting.
That's why he's trying to capture his hunts now.
Record everything because it's too easy doing it the other way.
But, but, but so, so when you gothrough capture that like, OK,
another question that comes to mind is like, like recharging
your phone, like what's kind of like essential gear for there to
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be able to keep? I mean, 'cause if you're at 11
days and you're like in the backwoods, like how do you keep
like yourself? You're if you're just
documenting with your cell phone, like how do you keep that
thing charged up? Yeah, I mean, just power banks,
right. So I, I use a lot of the dark
energy power banks. I really like those, those
banks. And I can get a few charges on
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my phone off of 1 power bank. And then I, and then if I'm on
a, if I'm on a backpack hunt, I'll bring a solar panel with
me. And anytime it's sunny that
things charge in a power bank ormy phone or whatever I need
charged. And usually I'll have two, maybe
3 power banks on a hunt and I try to not even come close to
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running out of power and keep that solar panel going as much
as possible. And I, I usually really never
come close to running out. If I have two or three good
power banks, they keep my phone charged just fine.
And yeah, like like I'm, I'm on my phone all the time, even
though I have, I have a camera, I'm constantly using my phone
for Onyx or for or filming some phone stuff and, or filming
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through my spotting scope. So it dies pretty quick, but I
charge it once or twice a day with those power banks and it
works just fine. OK audio, do you bother like I
mean would would you just use the audio that the iPhone
captures? Would you use like the DJI mics
or anything like that? Like any recommendations there?
Yeah, the the iPhone is pretty good.
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If I was just filming on a on a phone, I probably wouldn't worry
about audio if I if I was if when I'm filming on a on a DSLR
camera like a nicer nicer camera, the audio on those is
terrible. So I definitely would recommend
getting an external mic and likea wind cover for it because it's
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always windy in the mountains. So yeah, that's, that's kind of
how I would if I was just filming on a phone.
I don't think I'd worry about ittoo much.
The phones do pretty good at it.But those the DJI mics like you
can, they're Bluetooth. So you just all you need is the
mic and then Bluetooth to your phone.
But then you have to use a separate camera software on your
phone. And sometimes they're kind of
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finicky to connect. And so it's a little bit
difficult, especially if you're if you're on a hunt when things
happen really, really quick. So.
Yeah. No, that's good.
So OK, shifting gears, like let's say somebody wants to,
they've just got money burning ahole in their pocket and they're
like, I want to go out. Camera recommendation.
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And let's say you can only buy 2lenses.
What lenses would you get? So lenses I have AI have a lens
on my camera that stays there and it's not a very expensive
lens like so seriously, I don't think I've switched lenses in
the last like month when especially self filming 'cause I
don't really need to and it's it's a 24 to one O 5F4 lens.
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It's like 1000 or 1200 bucks. It's not an expensive lens as
far as lenses go, but it's awesome and there's sometimes
there's times where I would where I wish I had a little bit
better low light capability likea little lower aperture, but I
honestly like it. It works great.
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I like like I'm, I'm totally serious when I say I haven't
taken it off in like a month because I just, I don't need to
when I'm, when I'm self filming a hunt, I it has all the, the
zoom I need and I can zoom out film myself.
It's just fine. Nice all-purpose lens.
It's a great all-purpose lens. If I was going to bring anything
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else, it'd probably be somethingwith just some more zoom, maybe
like 100 to 400, maybe a 70 to 200, something in in that range
because you can get a little bitbetter wildlife footage through
that. But I do most of my like long
distance footage just through a spotting scope and my phone and
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it works pretty good. OK.
So again, back to the budget option, like if you're trying
to, you know, capture something,set up your spotting scope.
Yeah, slap, slap it on just record, OK.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, and I'll film kill shots
through my spotting scope if I'mby myself.
So set my spotting scope up withmy phone on that on the deer and
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then set my camera up filming myself and and take the shot.
And if as long as as long as thesituation has to work.
That sounds so overwhelming to me.
It's sometimes tough 'cause it'slike, yeah, that's if the deer's
moving too much. It's, it's, it's just gonna be a
little tough and it just, it's up to you.
Does is the is the shot, like, is killing the deer more
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important than getting it on film?
Like, yeah, that's, that's a personal thing you got to think
about. Yeah, yeah, that's cool.
So, OK, so people out there, I mean, we've talked about the
filming hunting, you know, you know, solo or, or with, with the
crew. I I mean, I, I guess if you're
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helping somebody, the last thingyou want to do is to be the guy
that like blows the stock for him.
And and we, I've talked a coupleother guys about that.
So I don't know that we need to get into that.
But yeah, if I'm, if I'm the person helping somebody hunt,
like there's no worry. Like they're 100% it's going to
be blown. So anyway, so, so shifting
gears, what has what's been likesince you've started filming
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your hands? Is there one that's kind of like
stood out to you as like that? You know, it's like maybe has
like the most meaning to you. You know, I guess like a cool 1
is like the first, the first film that I ever put out that
was one of my hunts that was a solo film.
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It was a deer hunt and a rifle of deer hunt.
And it actually to this day still has the highest views on
my channel. And this was years ago and this
was before I like really knew what I was doing.
Like the colour greatest terrible.
The audio's decent, the storytelling is like subpar, but
it's like the best. Jones worst critic man.
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I it's so it's true, it's true, but, but I mean I, I know I can
make a better film nowadays, butit is like the number one video
on my YouTube channel right now like it has the most views,
which is cool 'cause it's like the first one I ever put out,
you know, and I killed a decent buck.
It's not a giant by any means, but like, that stands out as
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like I, I just needed to do it and like go film a hunt, put one
together and post it. And without that, I think that's
where a lot of people get stuck is they just keep asking like
how, how, how do I do this? But they don't ever just go out
and do it and figure it out. And that's not the first film I
ever made. I had films, plenty of films
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before that that I did for buddies and tried and tried to
film and they just, they didn't work out.
I just, I learned I learned thatI need to film more or film
different types of stuff to actually make something.
And that's the first one that I like put together and posted and
was and was proud of when I put it out.
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And it it, it like it's, it's just it's kind of cool to me
that it's like the the number one video still on my on my
channel. So that was pretty cool.
That's awesome. So is it it was it the
experience of you just deciding like, hey, I'm going to do it?
Is that kind of what why that one means so much to you?
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Like you just finally like did it?
Was it the hunt itself? Was it just the fact that you
were able to get both done, likecapture it and you know, have a
successful harvest like punch that tag?
Like what? Maybe share a little bit of your
thoughts on that. Yeah, sure.
I mean, yeah, I think it's the fact that like I I captured it
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how I wanted to and I was able to put it together.
So when you're like when I firststarted filming hunts, I'd
always I'd always like there it.When you go film a hunt, it's
easy to just like film it and think that you've captured
everything and then you get backto the editing room a month
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later and you're like, I don't even know how to make anything
out of this. There's I don't have everything
that I, I thought I had like there's no storyline here.
So it takes a few tries and, anditerations to get it right and
to figure it out. It's like that.
That was kind of the one of the first times where I really put
it together right in a way that I was able to make a story out
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of it. And I was like I said, like I
watched like solo hunters when Iwas a kid.
Like this was the first film that I like I was solo.
I filmed everything. I got the kill shot, I got me
shooting it and I got, I was able to just capture the whole
thing and put it together and, and that that was cool to me.
That's just like, I can do it. Like there's no reason to not.
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And, and since then I I filmed Ithink every hunt except for one
of of my own. It's just like it's just become
second nature since then becauseI, I just, I like having the,
the memories, The one hunt that I didn't film.
I'm kind of bummed that I didn'ttry.
I didn't film it. And what was that?
It was my outcome last year. At the time.
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I was like, I've been, I've beenfilming a bunch and I was like,
I just want to like go hunt. Like I need to get reignited
with this passion a little bit and just like go hunt and not
worry about having a camera. And it was super fun and I'm
glad I, I like, I don't regret not filming it, but there's
times I'm like, man, that would be, that would be a sweet film
if I could have captured that, you know, so.
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I think it's good sometimes to just like be in the moment, you
know, I mean, kind of like we were talking a little bit
earlier, like everyone's so like, you know, connected to
their phones and, and having to have that instant dopamine hit.
I do think it's nice to sometimes like take a little
break, you know, I mean, like, like we like here on this
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podcast, like I've been going, going, going.
We started cranking out two episodes and then hunting season
came and like, I mean, it's beenpretty sparse.
Like the episodes. I mean, I've got, I've got a
bunch of got a bunch of episodesqueued up.
We're getting ready to drop herejust now.
It's like kind of like what you said, it's back to the editing.
And I don't really do much editing to these other than just
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kind of put some intros different, I mean, different
things like that. It's not much.
It's more just like the exporting time.
But it's, it is nice sometimes to just decompress.
And I think it's sad that like for those that are in like the
influencer space, I guess if youwill, or the creative space,
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it's like the algorithms, if youtake a break sometimes like it
likes to kick in the pants a little bit.
And so then you've got like thatPTSD.
It's like, well, I'm, you know, I'm trying to build this
business, I'm trying to build this podcast, this, you know,
creative media company. And if I take a little breather
or I don't record something, you're going to miss out.
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But I feel like sometimes you need that.
So then when you decide that when you do come back and jump
back in, you kind of hit like that reset button and you're
ready to go back in all in. And I, I think most, I think
most people understand that, youknow, as far as like when you
talk about like followers, subscribers and people that are
just interested in your content.But for whatever reason, man,
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the powers that be at the socialmedia world and YouTube, it's
like you take a break and they're like, we're going to
punish you for that. But that that would be that
would be my my one complaint because it's like, it's not like
the people that are interested have gone.
They just make you work that much harder to kind of re
engage. But well, that's cool that you
were able to go out and and capture that.
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Tell me, tell me a little bit about that hunt.
I mean, so you don't regret it. But what was?
Maybe tell me a little bit if you don't mind sharing, what was
special about it? Where there is that little itch
Like man, that would have been fun to have documented.
Yeah, so I, it was my first archery elk kill, so.
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So that was cool. That would have been something
cool to have on film. It, it was I, I've, I've haunted
archery elk a little bit, but not a ton like here and there
just for fun to go out with buddies and we just like mess
around and try and kill something and we never did, you
know, but. Sounds like that sounds like me.
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Exactly right. I mean, it's fun, but like we we
never got close. And so last year I was coming
off of a hunt where I killed a buck with my bow and I was
feeling pretty confident in myself and my abilities.
And I was like, yeah, I'm going to go out here and and I'm going
to kill an elk. Like it's going to be easy,
right? And I it took me a few days, but
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like, I got it done and it was my first time killing an elk
with my bow. Now that was cool.
That was special. I got to I was totally solo like
by myself in grizzly bear country.
Like it was awesome. I loved it and I after I shot it
like my wife came up and her herdad came up and like we all we
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packed it out like it was just acool experience to have and and
to to live and like just like picture perfect elk hunting
there. The elk were going crazy every
day. Like I was in range on bulls
every day. And if I just had to finally
come together eventually, it just took some time, you know,
so. Did you go out with the mindset,
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like as far as this one with your archery where you're like,
hey, like I want to find like a big boy or just like, hey, I'm
going to find like, you know, look for the right opportunity
to present itself. Yeah, it was.
I wasn't worried about how big it was, what it scored.
I was just trying to kill an elkhonestly, like.
Yeah. Yeah.
So you get it done, the wife comes up, you say it was your
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dad or your father-in-law. father-in-law.
OK, so they come up help pack itout.
Was it, was it like a, was it a long pack out?
Was it not too bad like? Wasn't bad, it was like a mile
and a half downhill so it wasn'tbad at all.
Actually it was. It was a pretty good, pretty
easy pack out. Took a couple trips though.
I can't wait to feel the weight of the elk quarter on my back
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and I and I hope it's like 8 miles.
Yeah, you won't, you won't hope I maybe should, I maybe should
have taken that back. I I hope it's like a quarter
mile from camp, like I'm walkingout one just out of dumb luck
come stumbling in and it's like,hey, it's my time.
Take me baby. Well, that's, that's cool.
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So have have you got any more hunts going on the rest of the
year? So I have one, I I have another
deer tag if I want and I am going on a hunt next week as
we're recording this. So first week in November I'll
be out on a backpack hunt. Just rifle over the counter,
deer tag and it's a good time ofyear to be out.
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We're going to be in an area that's not super.
There's not, there's not a high density, but, but there's quite
a few deer there. Yeah, we're backpacking in.
We're probably going to go in about, I don't know, 5 to 10
miles depending on how the snow looks in the country and
everything. It's kind of a spot that I've
never been before. So me and two buddies are going
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to head in there on that and andthen there's some opportunity if
I want as a as a resident in Idaho with over the counter tag,
there's some other opportunitiesif I, if I don't kill a buck
there, there's still some stuff open.
I don't think I'm going to spendtoo much time out looking
though, unless I somehow stumbleupon like a big buck and I want
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to try and kill it. I don't need AI don't need
another deer in my freezer rightnow.
It's my freezer is full and thenand then after that.
Well, if you do stumble upon oneand you can't find a freezer to
put it in, just give me a call. There you go all.
Right. Yeah, dude, my wife, she killed
a moose this year and then I've killed 2 deers so far and we
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still have meat in our freezer from last year.
So that's awesome. Like it's, it's great.
Yeah, it's great. We eat a lot.
We eat a lot. We eat meat every day and then
give it away to some friends andfamily and stuff.
So it's cool. That's awesome.
That's way cool. So are you filming any more
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hunts like that aren't your own?Have have you got any projects
that you're working on that? I mean, I don't know if it's
like you've got like non disclosures or something, but
anything fun that comes to mind?Yeah, I, I don't have anything
else. I had one that that got
cancelled. That was in December, so not
doing that one anymore. So nothing else.
It's I have a lot of stuff to edit though.
I think I probably got 5 or 6 films to edit.
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Most of them are my own that aregoing to be coming out next year
and then a couple from just someclients I filmed this year.
So lots of. Yeah, dude, you're out there
grinding, man. You are boots on the ground,
dude. I remember we had one call with
some with some guys and you werelike, I might not be able to
jump on the call. And then you sent a picture
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through with a nice buck that was down.
And I think if memory serves, when you hopped on the video
portion portion for a minute, you had, you had a buck on your
back that you were packing out. So you, you, you don't waste
much time. You, you keep busy.
And I, I think it's fun. I think it's awesome what you're
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doing. I, I think, you know, as I've
been falling and watching like your films, I mean all of them.
I, I just think you do a great job and, and documenting and
it's, it's a ton of fun to see Yeah.
And excited. You know, I, I, I don't know
that we're quite ready to drop the bomb on the projects that
we're working on. You know, there's a few things
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that that we're still trying to get finalized, but yeah,
definitely like stay tuned, folks.
We got we got more to come and maybe Logan can make a killer
out of me yet, but. I I hope so, dude, it's going,
it's going to be, it's going to be pretty cool.
Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun.
So have you done just shifting gears, have you done any
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predator hunting A. Little bit me and some buddies
will go call coyotes every once in a while.
Oh, I, I mean, I guess we do black bears every year.
So I've killed a handful of bears now over the last few
years and then some coyotes. And I mean, if I saw a wolf, I'm
going to shoot it or a lioness if it's in season, you know, But
I'm not really. I'm not really seeking those out
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too much. Yeah.
Yeah. I, I'm looking forward to
getting out on, on black bear hunt.
I don't know why that sounds so alluring to me.
Maybe because they're probably alot easier to shoot and get
close to than than a buck or a or or or a bowl for me.
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But yeah, we've got some guys that, that we're, that we're
talking with and yeah, we're going to get out.
I think I got 2 bear hunts I'm going to be doing next year so
excited to get out and do that. Nice.
Yeah, that's cool. I know some guys love it.
Yeah. Yeah.
So what? What do you like about bear
hunting? So I I love just like the how
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how I hunt them and the country hunt them and I don't do like
bait bear baits or run dogs. It's all spot in stock.
And so it's like steep, nasty, rocky Cliff country that's like
you'd, you'd never set foot in it except for when you shoot a
bear because it's like crazy. I just love that.
So Logan just thinks I want to go punish myself for four or
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five days. It's kind of how it is, dude.
Yeah, some of the bear hunts I've been on are like the
hardest physical hunts. I I've, I go on, which is crazy
because it's like, I just think of them as a fun animal to hunt.
But yeah, they bring you to somecrazy places.
What What's the most difficult part about hunting bear for you?
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Doing the spot and stock. You know, it's, I don't know, I
mean, with bears, it's I think that it's not that once you find
them and once you kind of know the areas they're they're living
in, you can usually find more bears.
Sometimes it's, it's kind of hard to find that area that has,
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that has good bears, good bear hunting.
You know, some, I mean, there's areas like the I, where I've
been and we've seen 30 bears in seven days.
And then we go to the same area,but like maybe a week earlier in
the year and we only see like 5 bears.
So timing it is a little difficult with bears.
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You have to have at the right time, even if you're in a good
area. I'm, I'm fortunate enough to
hunt the exact same area for thelast three or four years and
every year is different. Some years we just see more
bears and some years we see lessbears.
And some of it's kind of the time that the snow year might
depend on stuff. I don't know what other factors
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go into it, but just finding that, finding that that spot and
finding the bears can be tough because once you find them,
they're usually going to stick around.
Depending on the time of year. Sometimes they move a lot,
sometimes they stick, stick around and then yeah, I mean
killing them and packing them out, yeah, that's that's tough.
But like Pat the pack outs just it it the Hunt's over, you just
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got to get it out so. Yeah, Yeah, that's awesome.
What would you say is the most like overrated piece of hunting
equipment? That's a good question.
That's a really good. Question, I put you on the spot.
I completely like shifted gears on you, but.
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Yeah. Oh, let's see.
I might think for a second aboutthis.
What's the most overrated piece of gear I can think of?
A lot of pieces of gear that are, I would say are underrated.
OK, well let's let's start therethen.
Let's do that. I'll tell you what.
Most everybody says it's camo. Oh, OK.
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I guess that's, I didn't think about that.
Yeah, a camo pattern, yeah. I don't think it's necessary.
I like it sometimes, but I don'tthink it's necessary for sure.
Most of my stuff's not camo so. So OK, underrated.
Let's talk about most underratedpiece of hunting equipment.
So a couple things like #1 whichit's probably not very
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underrated, but I think it's a lot more important than people
think it is, is like good optics, people, a lot of people
put a big emphasis on it. But when you, when you have good
optics and you know how to use them, if you're, if you're
really deliberate about how you use your optics, is probably
more important than than what kind of optics you're using and
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how. Like when you're glassing, how
are you glassing? Are you glassing off a tripod or
are you, are you glassing? Are you actually glassing all
morning or are you just like glancing and then checking your
phone for 30 minutes and then glassing again?
Because I sometimes I find myself doing that.
And so making sure you have, youhave the good optics, but then
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you're actually using them, right, I think is important.
And So what advice would you give to somebody?
Because again, this podcast is focused on people that are new
to hunting. Yeah, that don't know how to
kill anything or I'm not saying everybody, I'm talking about me
in that instance. But when you say people don't
use them right, like what advicewould you give to somebody
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that's out glassing and how to properly use their optics to be
able to put them like in the game?
Yeah, great question. So optics, so when you're, when
you're when I when, like when, so when I sit down to glass the
hillside, it's like it's really easy just to glass all the
openings and see if there's a deer there or not, or an elk.
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And it's, you can, you might sitthere all morning and, and a
couple of deer might come out. But really where the deer are is
they're living in the cover and on the edges of of the timber.
And I mean, elk are going to be similar, but they're also going
to be out more often. But the principle that I guess
I'm trying to get to is like like really glassing edge, edge
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habitat, timber country. A lot of the deer I find are
already like in timber and I'm actually glassing through the
trees to find them. And the only way to do that is
to sit down to get your binal steady on a tripod or or
something similar and, and just pan and glass.
And you want to check, you obviously you want to check
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those, the, the easy areas first, those openings where,
where it's easy to see, but thenreally get really get tight on
on all those that country. I would also say something that
I don't see a lot of newer hunters do is find vantage
points that you can see a lot ofcountry even if you're like too
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far away to get a shot at something in the from that
point, if you can see a lot of country, your chances of finding
an animal just go up so much higher because you can just see
more country if you just limit yourself.
To glassing 1 little Canyon and that's all you can see and then
you just sit there all day. Like there might not even be an
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animal that walks through that Canyon all day, but there might
be an animal 2 canyons away fromyou but you just needed to get
back on the opposite Ridge or something to be able to see that
the whole country. So getting back, glassing a
bunch of country and just takingyour time is super important I
think. That's great advice.
When I first started going out trying to like spot stuff, I
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would always try and like tuck myself in to where like, you
know, I'm not seen and I had a very narrow range of vision,
right? Because yeah, trees, I've got
cover. And so I can't really open up
the country. And that that was one of the
things that my buddy Tyson kind of helped me this year.
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We were able to see a lot more animals.
And that was one thing. He's like you, He's like, you
need to get set up here. So like you can see this Canyon.
You can see that Ridge down overthere.
If something comes up, you know,he put me, he taught me kind of
how to get into the right vantage point to, to, you know,
what you were saying to be able to cover a lot more country.
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And it's kind of amazing, like what your peripheral vision can
pick up, you know, because prior, prior to opening season
for archery, I mean, we were on this area, I was in, I'm like,
oh, I'm like, this is going to be easy.
I'm going to get it done this year.
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And I mean, for like 2 months itwas just buck after buck after
buck after buck after buck. I mean, they were, I mean, if
there was one, there was typically six or seven of them
around. And I mean, there was one day I
think we saw 17 and then openingday came and I'm out there at
the butt crack of dawn get down the place that I've seen these
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bucks for months and months and months and months.
And I'm like, where the hell dideverything go?
Like they're gone. It's almost like they got the
memo too. They got the calendar like, OK,
boys, let's just tease them until this date at this time.
And then we're all going to haveto like, move out and, you know,
we'll be safe because everyone'sgoing to think that we're right
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here. Yeah, yeah, dude, that's tough.
And that that happens too. And and sometimes deer will kind
of move depending on the the season, but but just like you're
saying, like opening day comes and they get pressure, they hear
those ATVs rolling up and like some of those deer are just
going to move. They're.
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Like they're here, boys. Yeah, pretty much.
Make yourself scarce. Yeah.
Well, that's awesome. Well, Logan, hey, man, as we
wrap up here, like, first of all, just really appreciate you
making the time to come on to the podcast.
I think you got a wealth of knowledge.
And we'll make sure everyone go follow him.
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It's Logan dot Romney on social,Correct.
We'll make sure that we put links in the show notes.
So if you're not following him, make sure you head on over.
Give him a follow. But as we wrap up here, Logan,
what would you say to like, likewhat's one piece of advice that
you would give to a new hunter that that, you know, let's let's
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say they're let's say they're just archery hunter, right?
Going out, whether it's a buck or deer or, or whatever it may
be. What advice would you give them
to help them kind of along the way?
Like something that maybe like, man, I wish somebody would have
told me that 20 years ago and maybe your dad or somebody told
you 20 years ago. Yeah, 20 years ago I was three
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years old, so I don't know if I would have.
Learned how to great memory. Just kidding.
So yeah, Ryan, that's a good question.
So I think the biggest thing that I would say is like just be
relentless. There's, there's almost every
hunt and success that I have hadthis year is because I just
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stuck with it. Like like seriously, I, I didn't
kill like the 1st 10 days of every hunt I've been on this
this year. I haven't killed anything.
It's those last like few days where I finally got it done and
figured it out and found the deer or whatever, right.
And I think that's just, that's the biggest thing.
And the, the people I hunt with who kill the most animals are
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the guys that can just stick with it and not give up and not
get frustrated and discouraged for too long, right?
Like they might get frustrated at something that happens on the
day that might blow a stock or someone bombs a deer.
But you just gotta pick yourselfback up and stay after it.
And it's like hunt from like, orlike first light to end of the
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day and like you're out there tohunt.
Don't get distracted. That's what that's what you're
there for. That's why you're there.
It's like home's still there. And it's hard.
It's hard. It's hard for me.
And I hunt like, like I've been hunting my whole life.
But it's sometimes it is hard because you get discouraged
because you're not finding animals.
You want to move areas. And it, it, it's there's a lot
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that goes through through my mind when I'm out hunting and
just not having success. But man, I've just found that
the more you stick with it, the if you don't kill anything,
you're just, you're going to be better off for it.
But the chances of you actually harvesting animal just increase
because the more you, yeah, justthe longer you can stick with
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it, the better, dude. Yeah, I, I get it.
I mean, I love it. I get just enough, you know,
like I said, I had this bull come over the Ridge that just
didn't have a bolt egg for that unit.
But it was it was a ton of fun to see him.
Like they're real. They exist in the wild.
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You know, I had gone out my first time ever went Elk County
and I had one at like 30 yards. Didn't have a shot on Vital so I
didn't didn't take it, but I waslike hooked and then went
through like 4 years of just like nothing.
I can hear him, I can't see him,I can't find them.
They're not coming to me. They're not talking.
And that's the one thing in Utahabout the archery hunt is like
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they really didn't start talkinguntil like the last two or three
days. And even then they weren't like,
well, I'm going to leave my, I'mgoing to leave my cows and go
see what's going on down there. They they talk back and then
they would bounce. But yeah, I had gone out and
just like beat myself up. I mean, I got a full time job.
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I think it's great for guys. I mean, I'm envious the guys are
able to go out and put in 10/11/13 days.
And there's guys that have full time jobs that go and do that.
I'm just not in that position yet.
But I had gone out for like 3 days.
I had it was like my 4th time going out like trying to get on
this buck in this unit and just couldn't get it done.
And my truck, I had to take it in the shop right get it fixed
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up. So I had a rental, not my not my
truck, rented a truck went out, did my hunt not didn't get
anything. I'm driving back.
I'm flustered, I'm tired, like for whatever reason, like I do
not sleep when I'm out hunting. Like I just I can't get
comfortable like I mean, so it'slike 3 days like you're tired as
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all get out. Anyway, I'm driving home,
everything's going good. I'm in the middle of this
Canyon. It's like a five mile stretch
where there's no cell service. All of a sudden Bing, this light
comes on air pressure low and itwent from air pressure low to
flat in a matter of like one minute.
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So like I pull over like they didn't have well, I didn't know
where the tools were. I looked all the other places
like in every other truck that I've had, trying to find the
tools to be able to change the flat couldn't get it.
I'm tired, like I've got like everything just like loaded to
the hilt in the bed of the truck.
And I'm just, I mean, I, I'm stuck there for probably an hour
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and a half. I finally find the equipment I
need to be able to change the Tyler tire, not Tyler change the
tire and I finally get it done. When I come out of the Canyon, I
like, I call my wife. She's like, I thought you were
going to be home. You know, a while ago I was
probably 2 1/2 hours from home and before I left camp, I had
cell service. I called her.
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I'm like, I'm leaving. And anyway, that whole fiasco
happens. I finally call her.
I'm like, I'm done. I'm done.
I'm like, hunting's not for me. Like the hunting gods hate me.
They're just telling me like, bedone.
I get home, pack it up. You know, I mean, at this time,
it's like, I don't even know. I feel like it was Sunday,
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probably like 4 or 6:00. And this is to your relentless
part. I'm just like, I'm done.
I come in, I like, I'm like, I'mnot even going to unload the
truck. Like I'm done.
I hate this. I come in, sit down, have
dinner, crash out, have a littlenap for like an hour.
And then at 10:00 my I text my buddy Dustin and I was like, do
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you want to go out tomorrow morning?
And he's like, it's like, I thought you were done.
I'm like, I'm not done. I'm like, I'm not going to let
this thing beat me. So anyway, so we leave.
I like again I've gone like 3 nights of not really having any
sleep at all Wake up to 30 meet him.
We drive up. We by 9:00 well by 9:00 AM we
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had been chasing bulls on this mountain and they were talking
to us and we I thought for sure we were going to get it done.
But we had covered like a like 10.2 miles by like 8:00 AM and
it was just, it was, it was brutal, but I loved it.
So it's like, OK, like they're talking again.
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I'm finding them. And obviously we couldn't ever,
you know, the same thing. We're we're right on the border
of like Deseret. So like you can hear him and one
kept coming over and like he would talk to us close the
distance. You could hear him getting
closed. And then he's like, not
interested. I'm going to stay over here.
But that relentlessness, like when it does beat you up because
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there's guys that go out bow hunting.
I mean, Weston who I was just just, you know, I just recorded
with him this week too. He's like, took him seven years
to get his first kill with the bow.
Yeah. Have an elk and it's just like,
you just have to keep after it. So I, I keep hearing stories
like that and like, as I check the years off, I'm like, I'm
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getting closer, baby. I'm getting closer to getting it
done. So anyway, yeah.
Absolutely did. It's it's a lot of fun and I
think that it's great advice. Just be relentless.
The more time you can put out there.
I mean, if you can't go for 10-11 days, but you can be a
weekend warrior, go be a weekendwarrior.
Just if it's something that you love, you're going to do it.
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And you'll find out real quick. If you don't like hunting,
because we get the Backcountry, you have a pack on you and
you're out there dirty and nastyand not getting on anything like
it will test your will for sure.But anyway, well, Logan,
apologize, I went on a little rant there myself.
But guys, please, again, if you're not following him, go
(51:53):
over to Logan dot Romney on the socials.
Just Google his name. You can find him on YouTube as
well. Give him a follow.
Tons of great information that he puts out and just a great
dude. So Logan, thank you again for
for being on the show and thank you for listening to the Hunt
Stealth Podcast. We are the fastest growing
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podcast in the United States. Stay safe and God bless.
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