The Hustle Season: Ep. 362 Blues Lawyer with guest Zach Wish

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is basically a podcast that consists of a bunch
of people sitting around and pretending that they have a personality.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Listen, bullshit, Yeah, what's wrong with the.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Boh we got?

Speaker 3 (00:09):
It's trash. It does not slap call and response.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
What do you guys even doing? Cool stuff?

Speaker 4 (00:19):
Slick stuff, neat stuff.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I've been fucking I got too much.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Alf I always felt akin to black people.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Years ago.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
They tried to years ago, they tried to put me
in there. That means you're lying strings on them.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
I did it with the pick and the rock.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Oh, come on in. Bonator says the water's fine.

Speaker 6 (00:52):
And I say, let the conversation begin.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
A bit like a bitch.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Kelly started talking.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
He was crying like a.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
No, I'm not, No, I'm not.

Speaker 6 (01:40):
Yo.

Speaker 7 (01:42):
Husky's Hussy's Husky's Hussy's, Hussy's.

Speaker 8 (01:45):
Hussies, everybody's husty podcasts. I'm James dressed, that's Reggie Pace,
that's Kelly's strawberries.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
We're back at again. Uh I we didn't have a
break last week.

Speaker 8 (01:58):
We did his podcast last week? Right, we didn't do one.
I don't remember. I can't even remember at this point. Yeah,
we did one. Yeah, we make so much content. We
can't remember how much we do.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
Now we're just working all the time. Yeah, yeah, doing
all kinds of stuff. So yeah, but we're still here
doing the pod. Here we go, hustle seas in your face.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
All right, Well today today is going to be a
little different.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Yeah, I think we're just kind of get into Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Let's bring him on. We have a guest today. Oh
yes we do.

Speaker 8 (02:29):
Now we got a guess man, sir, do you sir
friend Zach Wish?

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Let's bring him on.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Hello, Thank you guys very much for having me.

Speaker 8 (02:40):
Fantastic, look really good, poor we can.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Gleaming skin?

Speaker 9 (02:49):
Oh man?

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Uh yeah, I mean where do we begin? Should we
just start the show and then start the show man
and we'll just go into it.

Speaker 8 (02:56):
I'm sure we should probably just introduce Zach. If somebody
doesn't know who he is, do you them some context?

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Do you want to do it?

Speaker 4 (03:02):
I feel like you're prepared.

Speaker 8 (03:04):
No, I'm not, but I'll do it because I mean, yeah,
I'm pro just making short and sweet.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah no, but like, uh, were you known Zach?

Speaker 8 (03:12):
I'm known for a pretty long don't like ten years
or something like that. A ish about uh. And I
met him through Chris Compton, me too, Yeah, right, yeah,
Chris Compton, Yes, bringing great people together.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yes, uh, Zach.

Speaker 8 (03:27):
The first thing, aside from just like playing in bands
that I worked with, he was doing gear demos for
a companies and different things, and like, I guess it's
a good place to start.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Basically started doing these all the time. And also didn't you.

Speaker 8 (03:44):
Do some like like uh, canned music stuff like uh
or getting to like, you know, publishing stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I don't know, talking about that or something one time?

Speaker 10 (03:53):
Yeah, I mean I can give you the quick little
rundown to just make a long story very short, but essentially,
you know.

Speaker 11 (04:00):
Like James like slowly right now, feed into this.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I like that. It was a great segue. Said I
was a professional bro professional.

Speaker 10 (04:12):
But yeah, so basically I was always I've been playing
guitar since I was a kid, and I have always
been a bit nerdy on the side of, you know, recording,
and I feel like there's always that person in the
band that's like, it's it's your job to record the demos,
and then you're inevitably like, why don't my demos sound
as good as my favorite records? And then you go
down that hunt and trying to get better at engineering

(04:34):
and you know, guitar tones and bass tones and drum
sounds and vocal sounds and all that kind of stuff
and then mixing. So I've always been into all of
that stuff and played in bands, but when the pandemic hit,
that was when I started just making videos for fun.
I've always been into photography and video and stuff like
that as well, but yeah, when I had all this

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extra time on my hands and wasn't playing in you know,
playing in bands and playing shit and stuff like that,
I was like, hey, I'm a huge geek about guitar
tones and things like that. And I feel like the
majority of the videos that I would see more often
than not, it was either like eighties metal shredder kind
of guys or like blues lawyer guys, and you know, no, no.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Disrespect, norespect.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
No.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I think about that all the time.

Speaker 11 (05:22):
We were like, you see a pedal and you go like,
I wonder if this pedal is any any good? And
you see the tutorial and it's just like the worst
shit you've ever heard in It's like, yo, I don't
want to buy this pedal no more?

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Right, I feel like it was you think you're being
very specific on.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I don't know who the blues the whole night.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
There's a lot of blue out there. Fifty dollars guitars.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Exactly, Yeah, collectors, you know.

Speaker 10 (05:48):
But so it was, yeah, so it was like I
consume a lot of this stuff, but I never really
saw myself in what those people are doing. So I
was like, why don't I finally come out and you know,
put something out there myself. And I had this recording
equipment and decent cameras and stuff like that and just
put stuff out for fun. I wasn't trying to be

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a YouTuber or you know, attract the attention of anyone. Really,
it was just like a fun creative outlet, and you know,
I was like teaching myself as I was going. And
so the quality of these things got better with time,
and pretty quickly I had a couple companies reach out,
like AMP companies. Matchless was one of the big ones
at first that they were like, hey, we love what

(06:31):
you do and will you make all of our videos
for us? So that was like, I guess I didn't
really plan on doing that, but yeah, sure, let's do it.
And then that just kind of snowballs and has led
to a bunch of other cool opportunities from doing things
like that, And yeah, all the while was also just
making I would make like a bunch of covers and
things like that where I would do entire songs from

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the ground up and like program drums and play all
the instruments and sing vocals and really in an exercise
to get better at mixing myself, because that's always been
you know, just mixing is really hard in general, especially
when it comes to I did a lot of like
heavier music and stuff like that when it's that big
wall of sound and just trying to find space for everything.

(07:12):
As I'm sure you guys could attest to as well.
It's yeah, so that was just an exercise in teaching
myself and just trying to get better at all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Man, it's so hip, dude.

Speaker 10 (07:22):
Yeah, And that's led to you know, other cool live
opportunities like that.

Speaker 8 (07:29):
So how did as far as like the covers and
all that type of thing, how did that?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
How how did it get out to get you the gig?

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I don't know, are you referring to the gig?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (07:43):
But what what was the chain of events from discovering
your content.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, okay, well what yeah. Yeah, so I've been playing
guitar for Seal for the past year and a half,
I will say something like that.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (08:03):
Yeah, so that's been like a truly amazing thing and
I feel extremely fortunate to be able to do that.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
But the way that yeah, thank you man.

Speaker 10 (08:12):
The way that that came about was, you know, I
just have been you know, through making just putting yourself
out there and making videos and things like that and
Instagram and the whole nine. Get random messages from people
all the time that are just like, hey man, dig
what you do or you know, I try to be
pretty positive with people that I admire out there as well,
where it's like, yeah, I'm gonna admire out loud, as

(08:35):
cheesy as that may sound, but it's like, yeah, man,
I try to let people know if it's like, dude,
this rules whatever somebody is doing. So, but yeah, just
maybe like two years or something into making videos, I
just got a random DM from Seal one day that
was just like hey man, or hey.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Brother, I should say.

Speaker 10 (08:54):
He was like, I really dig what you do, and
you know, let me know if you ever want to
talk about doing some work work together sometimes, which to
me such a trick.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
For one second, Wait minute, you got a real d
M from Seal, Like Seal just hit you and said, hey.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Man, I was I wonder what he was doing?

Speaker 11 (09:12):
You know, is he just like at that moment, Yeah,
he's just sitting on this couch, you know, because what
are you sit in the Instagram right, He's like flipping
through Instagram.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
You sees a guitar, a guitar video.

Speaker 11 (09:21):
He's like, he just like come to a little DM
real quick.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (09:27):
Well, so it turns out that you know, Seal has
he wrote all of his early tunes on guitar, and
you know, a lot of these songs that have that
are really sophisticated sounding, and when you break them down
to you know, the core song, it's like like, you know,
it's songs that were written on acoustic guitar that you

(09:49):
could strum some you know, relatively simplistic chords and things
like that, and then it's like his sense of melody
vocally over top of it is where things like truly
expand and come to life. And it's just like it's
an amazing thing to see firsthand. So I know it
sounds like you know nice, Yeah, but it's really.

Speaker 8 (10:09):
Stuff is uh the kind of like the the thing
that makes all this tunes like really pretty and stuff
is like the melodies are hummable, uh, but the in
the chords they're hummable, and the chords are like not
crazy either, but the way it's just different, Like the harmony,
I guess the way he's harmonizing over yeah, over those

(10:32):
changes is not it implies other stuff, and it makes
it sound like it's more complicated than it is.

Speaker 10 (10:38):
Absolutely really pretty unconventional harmony, and they go in places
that you wouldn't necessarily expect, which is really cool, and he.

Speaker 8 (10:46):
Does it in a very natural, like organic way. It
doesn't sound, uh, doesn't sound like cerebral music. Yeah, he
sounds he makes good choices.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Okay, so can you go from you got the d M?

Speaker 5 (10:57):
What were you doing? And then go from to be
and like no, all right, I'm going to consider doing
the seal gig.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Go just go from the wouldn't the gig yet?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
You know?

Speaker 6 (11:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (11:07):
Yeah? Yeah, So well, first and foremost he's a definite
guitar nerd. So that's I think that's why how we
found my stuff was like probably looking at an amp
video or a pedal video or something like that, or
and then also saw uh, like covers that I had done,
and at first, you know, I have very broad taste
in music. And even though most of the bands I've

(11:29):
played in over the years have been in like the
rock or heavier leanings, I guess it's like I've also
played I played in a cover band in Vegas for
a long time, and that was like everything from jazz
standards to you know, more contemporary stuff and even like
really out there stuff that you probably wouldn't hear a
band in Vegas playing where it was like we were
playing like Radiohead and Dave Matthews and like even like

(11:52):
fish songs and stuff here because one of the guys
in the band was super had so many like I'm
hearing a so in Vegas, like what has happened? And
but yeah, like tons of tons of stuff like that,
and playing in bands like that is a great way
to learn how to cop certain tones and like, you know,

(12:14):
really die. I've always kind of prided myself on like,
oh I can really get that sound off that record
or something, you know, whether it was like police tune
or something like that. I just always loved that kind
of stuff. So anyways, when he first sent me that DM,
part of me was like, are you sure you got
the right guy, man, because so much of what I
put out is all like pretty heavy, you know. And

(12:36):
it was even though it was like, man, I'm such
a fan of his even before working with him, that
it was a real trip to get that message. But
it was funny, like the week after he hit me up.
You know that Amiba Records YouTube series What's in My Bag?

Speaker 9 (12:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (12:52):
Yeah, his episode came out coincidentally like right then, and
has you know, an amazing selection of records of like
cross he stills a Nash and Joni Mitchell and all
this stuff. But the second record that he pulls out
as an Alison Chains record, and he's like, you know,
talking about why that band was so meaningful to him,
and that they have this like different kind of of

(13:15):
all the grunge bands and things like that, there's this
real almost like an R and B quality to their stuff,
like yeah, and like a real kind of like sexiness
to their music as opposed to you know, the yarl
of our favorite other like grunge bands and stuff. So
and it was I also, I have like an Alison
chains Cover on my channel and I was like, oh,

(13:36):
I wonder if he saw that, and was like, okay,
this guy can play guitar all right, and saying as
well and stuff. So yeah, so sorry, I'm trying to
not make this a crazy long story.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah yeah, okay cool.

Speaker 10 (13:50):
So yeah, from that, DM we just got to talking
back and forth and he was like, yeah, let me
know if you want to hop on a FaceTime and
we'll talk about doing some work together. So then that
was when it was like, oh damn, okay, this really him. Yeah, yeah,
I'm like talking to Seal on FaceTime. And it's funny
now because I like him and I are like close
friends at this point, so it's funny to think about
the early days when I was.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Like whoa, it's but yeah.

Speaker 10 (14:14):
So got to talking for a bit and kind of
just clicked right away, and then I went out to
la this really beautiful studio out in Malibu called Dragonfly
Creek Recording, and I met up with Seal, his longtime
engineer since his first record, and his original keyboard player,
guy named Jamie Mahobreck, who is a serious legend of

(14:36):
a session player and a live musician, and yeah, like
true genius guy and his drummer Earl Harvin. So the
guys that have been around since like the first couple
of records that are credited with you know, songwriting credits
with the majority of a lot, you know, a lot
of his tunes. So that was a real you know,
it's pretty intimidating to step into those moments for as

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are killing musicians.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
So I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
So it was like starting with writing stuff.

Speaker 10 (15:06):
Yeah, So and it was more just like hey, let's
get in a room and kind of see what happens.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
And yeah.

Speaker 10 (15:13):
So yeah, that was the first, which honestly to me,
is more intimidating.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Than definitely a live gig.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
It's one thing to learn the teah.

Speaker 10 (15:25):
Yeah and so yeah, but anyways, we got we were
there for like five days and worked on four or
five songs and just kind of from scratch of you know,
sitting in the couch in the control room with guitars
and he was like, oh, I have this vocal melody
idea or something, and then we would just flesh it
out and do it old school way of like all right,
let's all chart this out and then go in the

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room and do like six takes of the song and
see what we got and chop things up and move
things around, and it's like, yeah, it was an incredible
experience and it's definitely keeps you on your toes, especially
when you come from not that world so much, even
though it's like I have experience doing that stuff, but
it's you know, it's just a whole other level when
you're dealing with guys like that. But it was amazing,

(16:08):
and it's stuff that we put together in that session.
It's like, we just finished a European tour in October
and we played like four of those songs live. So
it's it's really cool to see those things come to
light like that and see a crowd respond to those things,
and yeah, it's really that's a very cool experience.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
So I mean, I will say, just for myself, yeah,
I am extremely extremely proud that you get to play.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
So I've like I've checked out clips and everything. That
obliterates my first question because like I was like, yeah, oh, yeah,
you're going to play on the road with him.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
That's that's cool.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
But then yeah, are you going to write with him
or do anything for the next album or whatever he
got you in first to do? Writing, which I think
is way more. I don't think of it as pressure.
I think that's like really a copy Yeah yeah, that
commitment too, and looking for someone who's making good sounds right,
like you're like you're trying to like, especially when you
write music, the sounds kind of inspire you.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
You know, it's like that.

Speaker 11 (17:11):
Guitar tone about this kind of like oh why don't
we try this sound? And like you hear a tone
and all of a sudden, like a little melody pop
into your mind.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
You know, Like so maybe that's that's like some sick shait.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Manh yeah man.

Speaker 10 (17:23):
And and he's you know, I think he's thinking about
things too in the way that's like, hey, I just
want to try something, and I want to try something different,
and you know, if it works, it works, and if
it doesn't then that's okay too, you know.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
But this fortunately was a situation where it worked.

Speaker 10 (17:38):
And yeah, just the great vibe between everybody, and you know,
as you guys know as well, it's like half the
battle is just is this.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
A good vibe?

Speaker 10 (17:48):
And can I hang out with these people and are
you the only touch of time with them on the
road or something like that.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
So the mood better be good.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
You are by Malibu, absolutely, like.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
It should be fine.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
You got to keep it cool.

Speaker 11 (18:01):
Everyone want to you want to fan way out too hard,
but like be respectful.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, are you the only guitar player? Yes, he who
plays guitar, though yeah.

Speaker 10 (18:13):
Not all the Yeah, he plays on a handful of
tunes and yeah, I mean he loves playing guitar and
still to this day that's where he does the majority
of his writing. And but yeah, like he would he
would be like, yeah, you do the heavy lifting kind
of thing, so and he'll he'll play when he feels
like it. But there are certain tunes where it's like
he's definitely driving the song and like propelling it from

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like a rhythmic standpoint, and I'm doing the more kind
of airy ethereal things on top of that. But yeah,
that was a tricky thing as well, moving in to
the live context after that. So after that studio experience,
he was he was like, yeah, let's we should do
some shows together sometimes. And the first gig that I

(18:56):
did was a private gig, but it was at the
minute May Stadium in Houston, like Houston Astros play, So
it was like damn, okay, first gig is like at
a stadium, so it was very you know, that was
another intimidating thing. There's no rehearsal for it, so it
was just like you better be ready, you know. And

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but and it's a tricky thing too, because a lot
of his music, guitar is not a primary instrument in
the mix, so it's like and it's super layered where
there'll be like five different guitar parts going on at
the same time. So it's like, you know, using your
best judgment to kind of arrange these things yourself. And

(19:38):
there wasn't an MD for this gig, so it's like wow,
you know. So it was it was kind of a
strange situation because it's like you don't want to step
on anybody's toes or it's like am I rocking this
song out too hard?

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Or am I not playing enough? Or you know, anything
like that.

Speaker 10 (19:53):
So I just tried to learn as much as I could,
and you know, I didn't know what a set list
was gonna be until like the day before the gig,
so it's it was one of those situations of you know,
he's got like fifteen records. It's like, am I supposed
to learn everything.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
And just listen.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Hold up.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
I didn't think he was gonna be bar banding it.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Like, no, there's no m D on the day, there's
no apprentice, there's no like I mean, you're gonna give
me a recording.

Speaker 11 (20:22):
The guitar player don't know what the set list is,
like the only guitar.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's a lot to.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Put on your shoulders and there's no m D. That
is kind of wild to me. First of all, That's
what I was gonna say. The band is kind of
bare bones. It's like a quintet.

Speaker 10 (20:40):
Well, it's funny too because this that particular gig, that
first one I played with them, was with absolutely killing musicians,
and you know that same I've always tried to approach
these things with that attitude of you know, positivity and
kind of act like you've been there before. Yeah, and

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just to put people at ease. You know, you don't
want to be the person that's like, I don't know
who's set list and I'm freaking out. It's like you
just want to be like, hey man, this is gonna
be cool, and you know, and even though it is
a stressful situation, it's also at the end of the day,
it's like, man, we're playing music and this should be good,
you know. So, But the people, the people on this

(21:21):
particular gig were a drummer named Drew McKeon who is
currently He just did this European tour with us and
has become a very close friend of mine and an incredible,
incredible drummer. He's been touring with Michael Bolton for the
last like thirteen fourteen years or something like that. Is
a session drummer out in LA and New York and
plays with tons of different people. Thaddeus Trebette on bass

(21:45):
if you're familiar, just like onreal bass player. If you
don't know him, I would definitely suggest looking that guy up.
He's incredible. Jamie Mahobarek original keys guy, and then his
background singers were Everett Bradley and Latanya I'm blanking on
her last name, but she's current. She sings with Steely
Dan right now. So it's just like, oh, all right, yeah.

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So it's like everybody that you're out there, it's like, hey,
you know, you just don't want these people to think
of you as he's this random dude from YouTube.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Can we trust this guy? You know? Like Seal DM
to this guy like who is he?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, they really looked out.

Speaker 8 (22:20):
It would have been kind of hilarious if you just
suck you know, like oh yeah for you, but like
it would have been like just think of like that.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
It was like I.

Speaker 11 (22:28):
Told him, it's like it's like an SNL sketch. You know,
you go out there, you just like don't know shit,
it's just like very real.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
That was a very real possibility.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Flop sweat, I understand that feelings.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Just like, yeah, man, I know you've yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Some bigs stage just like womp up on this big
as stage.

Speaker 11 (22:47):
Is like, man, I could just like fall over and
knock my my symbols down, break my trumbone file off
the stage.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
That could happen.

Speaker 11 (22:54):
Yeah, I'd go viral like coach Yep falling off the
stage exactly right.

Speaker 10 (23:00):
So yeah, again that was I was freaked out, man,
because that was a very real possibility. You know, that's
a possibility at any gig of something going wrong.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Right of course, but yeah, I might have just done some.

Speaker 10 (23:11):
Like trial by fire kind of thing and it worked
out and it was great, and yeah it's kind of
steamrolled from there and a ton of stuff has happened
since then. But I'm self conscious about blabbing about Seal
too much.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
So oh no, yeah, no look you lost your camera.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
No no, it's good, that's not what's going out to.

Speaker 11 (23:31):
Yeah, I was going to say, yeah that I was
looking up the nameless like Trebette. It's like, is that
from like and it's yea brother, it's his twin brother.
Ridiculous play okay, yeah yeah, yeah that's really cool.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (23:46):
So and also if anybody is interested, there is the
last show of our European tour from October was full
on pro shot, like two hour long show and it's
all on YouTube for free, so it's.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Like, yeah, it's very cool.

Speaker 10 (24:00):
Yeah, but yeah, that first gig was a full, you know,
large band with the lo on rhythm section of bass
and background stingers and stuff like that. And then for
some additional shows following that, there was talks of like, hey,
let's do this in kind of like a strip down
band way, even though there's still playback and tracks and

(24:21):
stuff like that, but trying to fill as much.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Space as you can.

Speaker 10 (24:25):
So now, yeah, it's just a four piece where it's
Seal myself, a keyboard player and drummer. And at first
it was like this is this weird having no basis
and the thing is go ahead and.

Speaker 8 (24:41):
No, just go I was just kind of asking like if, yeah,
there is no base, so like what is that like
with tracks? And is there bass workarounds like keyboard stuff?

Speaker 9 (24:51):
Like how did you handle it?

Speaker 1 (24:53):
So this?

Speaker 10 (24:56):
And yeah, I know you guys playing live all the time,
do you guys you anything with like playing to click
or incorporating any backing tracks or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I've done shows like that before.

Speaker 11 (25:07):
We just stuff this like stuff already in there, you know,
just like like a stemmed out version of the song,
kind of like going through like an Ableton kind of thing,
you know.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, I mean like I've definitely done any your stuff.

Speaker 11 (25:20):
I guess music from the nineties, especially like the Seal stuff,
it could mostly feel like keyboard bass and not be weird.

Speaker 9 (25:26):
Honestly.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, I've definitely.

Speaker 8 (25:28):
Played with a lot of bands where the drummer listened
to a click so we could use a tempo based looping.
It wasn't like tracks, but it was, and also so
you could sync all your delays and stuff. And the
other thing is if you've got an arpeggiat or on
a keyboard, sync in with the drums, but the drummer
is the only one listening to that stuff.

Speaker 10 (25:49):
Yeah, yeah, so this is you know, you could choose
if you wanted to listen to that stuff or not.
But I think everybody in the band has a healthy
amount of click because there's song. You know, there's a
number of songs where it's like it starts on guitar,
it starts with keys or something. So it's like you
need to hear that count in for all that kind
of stuff. With the slates in there of hearing the

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you know, you'll hear the like one two.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Right yeah or something.

Speaker 10 (26:15):
So yeah, so it's that's another one of those things too.
That's you know, I know I've recorded tons of bands
in Richmond that are like and this is no shade.
They're just like I don't like playing two click or
I can't play too click or something like that. So
I think through the years of recording myself too, I
just to become really accustomed to playing with a click.

(26:37):
So that's definitely, you know, it's like if you're gonna
do anything in the pop world, like you that's like
a must.

Speaker 9 (26:42):
You feel like you should.

Speaker 8 (26:44):
Probably be doing that because you're practicing no facts.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
I think the thing is though, that's also a part
of production that you know, evolves in like different ways
for different bands. Like either the drummer is just listening
to a track, you know what I'm saying, No one
else is actually is on the click, you know, and
then there's there's people over the whole bands on the click.
There's like a different way everyone everyone does it differently,

(27:09):
It's what I'm saying. It's also when people will go
to go straight through monitor with that ship with the click,
which is which is yeah? Which is what?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (27:17):
No for facts coming through, they're just coming through front
of the house and coming through monitors.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
They're not even using the ship.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
It's just fucking like church.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
There's there's church, tons of church drummers that just are
listening through monitors like drum machine claps whatever.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Bro fucking.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
It's it's retarded. I don't understand.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
It's just different, you know. So like I'm like, man,
I feel like that thing is to evolved. It's totally
normal now.

Speaker 11 (27:49):
I feel I feel like with bands, when you start
complaining about clicks, it's because it's such a different vibe
than you had ever played the song before in your life.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Like, you know, you're in a practice room right a song.

Speaker 11 (28:00):
Then you play a song and you've been playing it
on stage for six months, and it's like, okay, time
to get to the studio, and then all of a
sudden you're just like, oh, I don't even know what
the the tempo market is on this song, and it's like,
oh shit, this is a completely different you know, like experience.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
I mean, hits are different, you know, like I mean seals.
I think when it comes to hits, you know about it,
like Prince Seal staying, anybody started it alone, They're going
to have a click, yeah, and they're they're like this really,
this can't be no different every night?

Speaker 10 (28:31):
Yeah, And you know, program in certain you know, sometimes
it's really cool to have choruses that are like three
bp ms slower than the rest of the song, you know,
to to just create that sense of movement that you
would get in it. It just makes things feel a
bit more natural.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
But yeah, this tempo people are tempo mapping.

Speaker 11 (28:48):
Oh yeah, exactly, the whole the whole abroad like a
Broadway kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Show I feel like Lars, like I feel like it
changes every eight Like I feel like he's like one
six seven fine, yeah, man, you know dude, I mean,
I think that's incredible that you're doing that gig. I
really think that's and again being the only guitar player
and I was, yeah, I was gonna say, a lot
of his stuff is very it's been made to feel

(29:15):
like piano is the more dominant thing in his music.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
And yeah, I think I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
Yeah, And I feel like that it's interesting that he
seems to be going more guitar bassed even though and
also kind of letting people know because they really marketed
him as a singer. They did not market him as
a singer songwriter. Really, I feel like I'm sure that
he is like more cognizant of that now. So that's
why it's so cool that he found somebody like you

(29:44):
where the guitar sound is going to be very important,
you know what I'm saying. Tone is going to be
very important obviously, And so I think that's exciting.

Speaker 11 (29:53):
For him and that's like a feel good you know
American Internet story. Man, you're just like you at home,
just like making videos and like putting out positivity to
the Internet, and then you actually do get a d
M from fucking Seal or whoever, you know, and then
you show up and like you don't weird Seal out
when you talk to him, you know. And then you

(30:14):
show up and like you don't suck at this like
recording session thing with the main band, and like also.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Like Seal Seals dms don't suck.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
I'm just saying that, Like his that's a that's a
true story.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
His dms were probably why filthy because there's.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
Just nothing but celebrities, celebs everywhere.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
And then and he's like, man, I gotta hit up
this guy's yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Know, Yeah, that's that's a great story.

Speaker 11 (30:40):
And you must be putting out good vibes that I'm
just happening you're putting out good vibes out there.

Speaker 10 (30:44):
I think that's the other thing to Zach trying to think, Yeah,
I think that is an oppressively negative place a lot
of the time.

Speaker 9 (30:51):
Absolutely.

Speaker 10 (30:51):
I heard somebody say I can't remember who said it,
but I was resonated with it where they're like.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Man, social media is the sharpest double edged sword.

Speaker 10 (30:58):
And I told really agree with that, where it's like,
you know, you can spiral down some seriously negative ship
or you know, like I don't think I've ever left
a negative comment in my entire life. You know, that
doesn't mean I don't have critical thoughts or something like that,
but it's like, now, you know, it's like if you
ever get a negative comment on a YouTube video or

(31:19):
an Instagram post, I think without fail, it's like if
you click on that person's profile, it's like they don't
have they haven't made anything or put themselves out there.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
So it's sort of like, listen, come on over I YouTube.

Speaker 9 (31:32):
Man.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
Even the comments they have left us for various videos,
it's incredible.

Speaker 11 (31:39):
We've been making fun of people's childhoods by like being like, yozy,
who is it?

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Who? A band going off with? Some band?

Speaker 9 (31:47):
Cool?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Not Zzy Top.

Speaker 11 (31:48):
There was some band we were like, man, this shit
sound like shit and you're just like, oh, it was
a Squeeze.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
It was one of those bands, like, there's nothing wrong
with this.

Speaker 11 (31:56):
I don't see what you guys are making such a
big deal out of it.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Some man put out a new song.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
It was motherfucking Toto.

Speaker 11 (32:03):
Man like, yeah, we love Toto and James James.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
I love Garbage, I love Toto. It was He's like,
why are they doing this? Why should they even because
that they still have.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
A fan but one of the greatest of all times.
Same thing with the same thing with Seal.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
They've had some major hits and those songs keep coming back.
Kiss from a Rose keeps going by last you know,
a lot of his joints, Crazy goes viral all the time.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
I love that ship.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
So it's exciting that se Seal is your cat man.

Speaker 9 (32:40):
Man.

Speaker 10 (32:40):
It's a it's a trip, and it's it's funny that
in time, it's like, yeah, we played some really amazing
shows over the last year and a half and stuff
that is like, you know, not even bucket list things,
stuff that's like I never thought that would happen. It's like,
we played Hollywood Bowl and you know, some real incredible venues,
and we played Hyde Park and which was like sixty

(33:01):
five thousand people show, by far, the biggest show I've
ever played. And it's you know, really really amazing stuff.
But then doing this past tour, that's that's when it
really feels like a band, when it's like a proper
tour and you're playing night after night and you get
really tight. And I was glad that that show that
was filmed that's on YouTube, that was like the last
night of the We're all pretty tight at that point,

(33:21):
and yeah, it's it's very cool. And I think we're,
you know, trying to work on new music for stuff
in the future, and I think it should be elusy.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
That's excitingly, nah's exciting, man.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
I mean, geez, where do we go from here?

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Should we use music news man talk about a little music?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah? Thanks for being here, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah, thanks for thanks for asking. You know, it's cool.

Speaker 10 (33:48):
It's it's like it's one of those things too that
it's like, I don't it's just such a you know,
kind of random thing that sometimes it's like, ah, I
kind of feel weird blabbing about this stuff. It's like,
I try to keep it to myself.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
There's nothing wrong with that. Man, haters out there, that's fine.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
The perfect person to get that gig and it makes
perfect sense. And uh no, man, you're you're doing it
with grace and uh dignity.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Dignity all right, so music news all right? Cool?

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Tom Morrell is talking about you right here.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Zach tom Morello criticizes musicians who want quality instruments.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
I saw that.

Speaker 11 (34:38):
Taking the crotch of the old man ship to another
what you're talking.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
It's such a clickbab.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
It's saying yourself.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
Tom Morello criticizes musicians who want quality instruments, and then
he says, I quote, I don't give a ship.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Well know you don't and uh and he.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
Just says he doesn't to subscribe to the idea that
the quality of the instrument you play will make you
a better player.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
And uh, hey we know that. Man. Yeah, He's like, look,
I don't even plug my ship up. Fuck this guitar.

Speaker 11 (35:13):
I just love to fucking plug onto the electricity.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I wanted to be a DJ.

Speaker 8 (35:22):
I mean, you know, yeah, he has a quote, are
we is Tom Morello selling low priced guitars?

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Is he doing?

Speaker 6 (35:29):
He?

Speaker 10 (35:30):
He says, I always think that stuff is so weird
when I love Rage Against the Machine. They're one of
the bands that made me want to start playing guitar
in the first place. And you know, Tom Morello at
this point, now he has like a signature distortion pedal,
he has a signature guitar, he has a signature plug
in with Nerle DSP.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
So it's like, dude, this guy has nice care.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
He doesn't have any good endorsements. He says he doesn't have.
He says, I don't do any endorsements or anything.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Like that, but he's been given some giving him Yeah
you've been throwing them away.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
Yeah, maybe he gets paid and uh, I don't know.
I don't know how that works. Why the how they
can use his name but he doesn't do any endorsements.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
I guess he doesn't ye talk about it or he
doesn't have to promote. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
It's like a flat fee, like a big flat fee,
and they just fucking you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (36:16):
Okay, he's probably I mean, he famously used or still
uses like the same rig that he's had for all
those years, which I think is super cool. He's kind
of like, hey, I just found a sign that work
and I stuck with it and I didn't do the
whole gear chasing thing. But it's it kind of reminds
me of that. Like when Joe Bonamasa, like a couple
of years ago, is like if you know, he goes
if people use effects pedals, right, dude, it's like maybe

(36:40):
for you, but it's like that's one of those just
like dude, maybe just be like, hey, not for me,
Why do you have to like shit on everybody else's day.

Speaker 11 (36:48):
I guess, I mean Tom Morello found a thing, you
know what I mean, once you've already found some weird thing,
then you can be like, oh, yeah, this is my thing,
you know, then you don't have to look for no
more things.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
He does they do anything.

Speaker 11 (37:00):
You don't play in, none of the bands, you know,
I see other ship that anyway.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
That's kind of part of the issue. It's not really
doing anything except for I guess. I guess he's doing
his own ship or whatever, his own like instrumental stuff
or whatever. But you know, as long as Rage against
the Machines not on the fucking.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Road, Yeah, we don't care. We don't care.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
We don't cares really, so yeah, or.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
What's some other audio slave audio? Yeah? Alright, p yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, and the profits of Rage as well.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
No thank you, no thank you.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
Uh. Another thing that Zach was talking about was the
fact that he pretty much did not have to audition
to play with him because he had already done his audition.
He's been doing this stuff online and he just was
already crushing, so he just came got uh invited. So uh,
speaking of auditions, I wanted to take a look at
a couple auditions as Primus is looking for a drummer

(37:56):
right now, and they've decided publicly. Yeah, publicly.

Speaker 11 (38:01):
There's another t Pain too, he's doing his band publicly. Yes,
you're ahead of the curve, but he already did it then.

Speaker 8 (38:08):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (38:08):
Smashing Pumpkins got Kiki Wong on guitar. That was like,
I definitely sent them an email. I was like, dude,
I'll play Yeah, I mean millionaires thinking that I would,
you know, get a callback.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
But it's like, dude, if you.

Speaker 8 (38:20):
Were if if you internet guitar, you got a job
with Smashing Pumpkins, we'd be calling you every week.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
So for Philly Corgan, uh.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Like you need to talk, you need to speak for
him for this.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, we can talk about wrestling. I can talk about wrestling, right.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Uh. Yeah, So yeah, there's been a couple Primus. Uh,
there's been a lot of video on YouTube, a lot
of different drummers.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
There are a lot of people acting a fool out here.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
You know, and uh, it's not a real gig. He's like,
we need to take a look at a couple and
just understand what they're doing.

Speaker 8 (38:54):
Uh, let's start with some of these Uh, like YouTube
like YouTube shorts that you sent me here?

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Uh is it a let me make sure I'm looking
the right one?

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Now? Do you guys know?

Speaker 10 (39:08):
Was this a situation where they could play whatever they
wanted to or was.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
It like, yeah, play this it was okay, cool, you
could do whatever you want for this song or No.

Speaker 11 (39:16):
They didn't do that, but they did kind of make
some more stipulations recently. I guess after they've gotten a
ship ton of videos, they were like, maybe we should
tell people what we're looking for a.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
Little Yeah, you told everybody to stop being so chopped
out on the We got to read that on their videos.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
I got that after saving somewhere. Yeah, let me.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
But you basically say y'all need to keep it in
the pocket. What he said, he's like, you cut all
that other ship out?

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Uh so, man, I don't.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Know, man, what are you trying to get on that
Primus game?

Speaker 2 (39:45):
No, they asked him bullshit sty bullshit?

Speaker 4 (39:50):
I mean you know that's yeah, that's kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Scared.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
I like, I like them, but I'm not deem. I'm
not deep.

Speaker 11 (39:57):
We didn't say, are you a deep Primis fan? Would
you want to play drums with privacy.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
I gotta be a fan at this point.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
You can't play drums unless you're a fan.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Sometimes depends I need to be a artist.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
That's a hot take.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
I need to be a fan. I don't need to
I don't need to do that gig. I don't need
to go private. I don't, you know, but I feel
like it's a very that's a very big commitment.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Do that song, Tommy the cat Hell, Yeah, you got
a couple.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
They got it. They definitely got a couple of baby
there is a race car driver.

Speaker 9 (40:27):
You know.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
That's fine.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
There it is there goes.

Speaker 7 (40:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, it's like, oh my.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
God, you're doing great.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
I saw just fine.

Speaker 8 (40:35):
So I got I'm doing too much on one computer though,
that's the only problem.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
Oh is that what's happening?

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah, that's exactly what's happening.

Speaker 8 (40:41):
Yeah, so I need to look at what the hell's
coming out of that?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Right?

Speaker 10 (40:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (40:48):
What God damn dude, I hate this ship? This one?

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Is this one?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Really?

Speaker 9 (40:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (40:53):
This is gonna get edited out, but like, god damn man,
I hate it when this doom ship, you know, let's
go this, let's go uh resize, uh reset transformed.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Okay, So it's like this.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
This is not a good audition, by the way, because.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
It just says it just says playing he's halfway there.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
It just says drums only.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
I'm like, so what song is it?

Speaker 5 (41:20):
You know?

Speaker 4 (41:21):
I'm like, this is not good?

Speaker 8 (41:22):
Okay, and all right, here we go. Now I just
got to bring that up on my thing. Here see
what's happening here?

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Okay, so let's wow.

Speaker 8 (41:30):
Also, Zach is gonna be on the same audio as
whatever this is.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
So oh no, it's all good.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
I got this, okay, didn't So you just picked one?

Speaker 2 (41:45):
I know it. So you picked a song, all right?
Keeping it clean though, are you here?

Speaker 5 (41:58):
The base work is all right, he's keeping clean. I
gots yeah, that's nice.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
That's clean.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Okay, all right, he needs to get.

Speaker 11 (42:11):
More play then, yeah, that's Jerry's racecars.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
I mean, I feel like you're gonna have to do
more songs.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
All right. What's the next guy? Him? This is the one,
this YouTube guy.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Yeah, this dude, okay, yeah, this guy.

Speaker 8 (42:28):
So let's let's see what you have a special camera
mister know.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
All all right, he's got all the symbols.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Let's go try.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
I will not compromise.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
You get a clip on there, but you got you
kind of judged.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Boy.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
Look at how so many symbols.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
It's going crazy with double basic jump at all. Right, Wow, god,
what is going on? You're killing it? What are y'all
talking about?

Speaker 4 (43:12):
No?

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Wait, oh wait, no, there's another video. What's going on
right now? What is happening?

Speaker 4 (43:24):
It's another So I was like.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
What the fuck?

Speaker 9 (43:28):
This is?

Speaker 2 (43:28):
This is chaos? Yeh hell what is that? What is happening?
I don't know what's going on?

Speaker 4 (43:40):
There might be another window that opened or something like that.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
But now it's like, gone, hold up, it's just a video.

Speaker 9 (43:53):
Yes, this is this is a different video.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Right, it's another camera, another camera shot.

Speaker 9 (44:10):
It's not.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
Due.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
So I made right about that.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
That His setup is annoying to me.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
You're like the roots it is so great roots.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
No, I don't.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
I've seen this guy do it? Want to this? It's
always the same type of.

Speaker 9 (44:37):
Ah this.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
No, thank you?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Oh you don't like that kind of performing?

Speaker 4 (44:48):
No, I don't. I don't know, man, I'm feeling, man,
I feeling.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
That wasn't that bad? I mean, you just it's just
not it's not clean. What are they looking for?

Speaker 9 (44:57):
Clean?

Speaker 1 (44:58):
No?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
They're not you know, what I mean, it's not it's
like his his like it's not clean.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
But doesn't he need to be in the pocket.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
He's like, you know, I'm about the age, yo, show him.
I got my tank top on.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
He needs to be in the pocket.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah, that's great. Hate harrd. I mean it's whatever, man,
I still I don't what's next. Uh, let's see here, Let's.

Speaker 7 (45:21):
See what else I got, all right, Kelly, I mean
it's not much, I'm telling you, other than okay, Oliver
Anthony called Beyonce's cowboy Carter Ali for Anthony the dude.

Speaker 11 (45:36):
Oh oh, the Richmond rich Richmond got Yeah, what's the
what was north North north of Richmond or whatever?

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, that dude. Okay, who cares about this guy?

Speaker 4 (45:48):
You hear you hear about this dude, Zach.

Speaker 10 (45:51):
What's the name of the tune again? Rich Richmond, north
of Richmond or something something.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Like a year ago?

Speaker 7 (45:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:57):
I think it was longer than that, right, Yeah.

Speaker 10 (46:00):
I saw the Yeah, bro, he does the whole deal that.
I could be wrong. I don't even telling tales out
of school here, wasn't he like? People got annoyed with
him because he didn't make his political leanings clear.

Speaker 11 (46:11):
It was like this like we didn't like this is
a this is a mega anthem. And then he was
like I'm not actually yes, and they were just like
who are you then?

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Man?

Speaker 1 (46:23):
This un't not for primise? Is that what? That's what
he did?

Speaker 11 (46:26):
This dude ain't got no the credentials to speak on
the Queen Beyonce. I say that right there. Just go
ahead and keep that to yourself, young man.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Why spokesperson on whether.

Speaker 8 (46:41):
Reminds you of like David Crosby is all like says
some saucy ship.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
About what what what?

Speaker 11 (46:52):
Crosby says the eruption wouldn't all that his Twitter is
still popping off.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
He's dead, you know, by the way, but he's.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Still somebody still somebody's still tweeting.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
Somebody still tweeting over there. Yeah listen man, Uh yeah,
So he said that he uh, he toured and that
he made more money than he ever need, never than
he ever needs. Basically for him, he's all good now
he's and so now he's just uh saying what he
feels and that uh, and I guess you know, he

(47:20):
just sounds like he just wants to be uh some
kind of weird independent like you know Firemarter, Yeah whatever,
I don't yeah, farm, Wait.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
What are you saying about Beyonce?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Know?

Speaker 4 (47:32):
Yeah, he said it was trash. He said the album
is trash.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Cowboy. Uh, Curtis, that.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Is crazy, you know.

Speaker 10 (47:42):
Yeah, this guy's out here leaving negative YouTube comments.

Speaker 8 (47:48):
When they leave negative YouTube comments and it's a real person,
that's when I get really happy because it's not a
were like bots or like troll accounts. It's like a
real person and you can see their interest says nice
try Diddy.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I like I like it
when it's a real person. Yeah. I prefer that genuine.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
There's so many like weird fake Diddy comments now on
a lot of those instagrams, right because nice try Diddy, Like.

Speaker 11 (48:15):
It's like, what wow, somebody's like trying to sell a
plug in. It's like underneath the plug in it just
says nice try Diddy is like what.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
It's like, why is this?

Speaker 11 (48:22):
Some bot thought this was hilarious and then all the
bots just do what everyone another bot does.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
It's like, what is this?

Speaker 5 (48:29):
I don't understand.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
I don't get it.

Speaker 10 (48:31):
That's like back in the day, like uh, back in
the day, like two thousand and eight or ten or something.
I feel like every music YouTube video would have a
comment that was like, God, this is like ten thousand
times better than Justin Bieber. And it was just like
every video had that on there, and I was like, man,
what leave that kid alone, Man.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Leave that kid alone.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Yeah, look what happened.

Speaker 11 (48:52):
Look what happened? Man, It should have been nicer to
that man. Yeah, wow man, but yeah, man, shut your ass.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
Wepsode uh a former village people member.

Speaker 11 (49:05):
Uh they're having a battle right now, really the village people.

Speaker 8 (49:09):
Yeah, so well the founder, how many of them are
are still a lot, like one of only two of
them are really fighting, right It's like the yeah and
the policeman and the struct worker in the construction work.

Speaker 11 (49:23):
They're fighting because he I think all of like he
must have got a bag, because all of a sudden
he was like not not okay with them calling the
y m c A a gay anthem. He was like,
it's not that and that and I don't have any
problem with the T bird using the song or whatever out.

Speaker 9 (49:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (49:40):
So so now he's fighting with another member of the
straight He's like, yeah, yeah, don't funk with the y
m c A.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Man. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
He's just like been taking himself way too seriously. The
writer of the song it's too late, brother, Victor Lewis. Yeah,
the Victor Lewis. Victor Willis is his name? Uh yeah,
I mean he got it is Victory?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Was is he? Which one is he?

Speaker 5 (50:01):
He's the founder, he's the founder profession Oh, he's the policeman.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
I don't know their names, their costumes.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
I can't remember. No, no, no, he was the captain, captain,
the captain like oh what.

Speaker 8 (50:17):
Oh yeah, like the admiral in the Navy video in
the Navy, he was the admiral in the name the Okay.

Speaker 7 (50:25):
Well so he pause, what that joke totally goes Yeah,
let me play man, what are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (50:35):
Grow up.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Y god?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Like a middle schooler here anyways.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
Uh, well, listen, he's been uh, he's been tripping about
the songs ever since because he wrote all the songs,
all the all the biggest ones y m C A
in the Navy macho man, I mean uh. And he
got inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame a few
years ago. Ever since then, you feel himself now feeling
himself honestly, like as a songwriter when I wrote y

(51:05):
m c A.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
And I'm like, like.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
First of all, like, what are you trying?

Speaker 11 (51:10):
What is he trying to say is like this song
is about how much I love to play basketball.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
I just love swimming and playing basketball.

Speaker 8 (51:19):
It's exactly what I'm saying the song is about, is
a literal song, like taking showers, hanging.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Out the y m c A.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
He was like, y'all suggested that I'm doing a listed
ship at ymc A.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
That's not that's not what we were doing.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
A basketball when I'm talking about young men, and I'm like,
young man, good, you're seeing the movie with Steve Gutenberg.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
That's insane. That movie even can't stop, won't stop. It's
you ever seen that ship?

Speaker 5 (51:50):
No?

Speaker 8 (51:50):
Oh, it's the Village People movie and Steve oh, he
is on roller skates and booty shorts like the whole time.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I don't know what they're talking about.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Nothing to do with that ships.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Whim.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
Yeah he's been tripping for a while, so calm down, sir,
heeds relaxed. I can't read write history, man, it's too late.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
Old dudes on Facebook just be going hard man.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (52:14):
So yeah, Facebook has got the like like the fifty
year fifty and up.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Man.

Speaker 11 (52:19):
Facebook is going crazy over there, like old rappers, old singers.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
I think it's really.

Speaker 8 (52:25):
Going also like the praying ground of all foreign scam.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Artists, all scams. It's like that's what the old people are. Yeah.
So it's always some dude calling up or whatever.

Speaker 8 (52:38):
It's awesome, folks, man, It's like a it's like it's
gonna be pretty soon.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
It's gonna be a nursing home of of the Internet.
I mean it already is.

Speaker 11 (52:46):
Dude, you need to help help them these old folks out,
Like give them like a different version of a kid phone.
You know, it's like an old folks home phone. Yeah, smartphone, Yeah,
but it's smartphone. Like make sure your grandparents aren't like,
you know, falling in love with somebody in Cambodia or like,
you know, it's just like giving their credit.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Card service monitors your elbow.

Speaker 11 (53:09):
You gotta watch them. You got actually a really good idea.
You gotta watch them, man, because then they embarrassed. You know,
they don't want to tell anybody, so like they just
lose sixty grand they don't tell their kids, you know,
because they're worried to be like no we need to help.
We need to help these old folks out.

Speaker 5 (53:23):
Man. Hilarious.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
I think that's a good idea. I'm just trying to
I'm trying to save the world.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
Well, I think that's that's pretty much it for music news.
Uh for music, Yeah, we should probably do them. I mean,
I got a movie review. I'm not gonna talk about
jay Z and the PDF situation.

Speaker 11 (53:41):
Oh man, we gotta wait, you gotta you know, you
know I don't want this issation.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Yeah, you saw as you saw a gladiator too.

Speaker 11 (53:49):
I saw a gladiator too, which is like this. It
was really funny when I got to the movie theater.
I went to the movie theater like three three pm
on an afternoon, right, just some buy yourself ship, you
know what I mean. Went to the movie theaters and
then like when I get to the front to get
my Cherry Coke to go with the sandwich that I'm
smuggling in my pocket to the movie.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
I mean, I made an Italian.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Hero smuggling an Italian Hell. Yeah, man, it was a risky.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
But not I didn't put the oil line. I went
I went Mayo, went Mayo on it.

Speaker 11 (54:22):
To make sure gonna gonna have like like sogginess to it,
you know, just a mao lettuce, you know, you know,
chop it up, foiled it in my pockets. I'm in
the line and this dude, this is dude, really tall
dude kind of looked like a tall like, you know,

(54:43):
like a preacher almost. He's really dressed really really nicely,
and he's tall, and like he is fucking having it
out with this kid at the desk about something about
a credit card. Then a credit card guy put wrong.
He's like and the kids looks like he's about to cry.
He's just like, well, I think you're gonna get a
manager before, like, I think it may I charge you this,

(55:05):
but hold on. So I'm just the only other person
in the whole building standing behind this guy was waiting
to get a soda in this and the bow tie.
This is a bide just a big room. It's a
big gass room. And he's got his girlfriend with him
or his partner with him. You know, she's just really
nice too. So this is already funny. It's it's like

(55:25):
taking taking your girl out on a date to see
Gladiator two. Uh at three pm. That's nasty work.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Hey, No, listen, cheaper, she didn't want to be there.

Speaker 11 (55:37):
Don't do that to her. She has to be there anyway.
I finally, finally, another kid shows up and lets me
get my soda, so I walk inside. I'm sitting down
waiting for the previews, and oh previews, the preview for
a new mission impossible movie for the last one called
we Swear It's last one?

Speaker 9 (55:55):
Kind of.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
He was like, this is it.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
It's like number nine and eight.

Speaker 11 (55:59):
I don't know how many it is, but the preview
looks sick, looks like Tom Cruise definitely tried to kill
himself a couple of times, just hanging off the top
of an old like an old timey plane.

Speaker 8 (56:09):
The old time he like dogfighter planes, still into like
all that, Like I'm doing my own stunt. I think
as he's gotten older, he's gotten worse about it.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Yeah, because he.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Goes real quick. Where do you guys all stand on
Tom Cruise. I know he's a controversial figure.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
It's a controversial figure.

Speaker 9 (56:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (56:22):
I usually can keep away from like all the off
the court ship and I just enjoy the action movies.
I think scientific is crazy.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Yeah, I think as an actual he's fine.

Speaker 8 (56:34):
He's a in real life Yeah, hes a great, great
job in movies.

Speaker 11 (56:39):
Overall, he seems pretty I don't know, he seems earnest
out with him, Yeah, he seems earnest.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (56:46):
If I'd hang out with him, I wouldn't mind I
was hanging out meet him.

Speaker 11 (56:50):
Yeah, Yeah, for sure, I wanted to. I want to
see what he got to say.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
Look, I think the thing is that he's boring now
because he doesn't really do anything different.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
He's just doing a ton of action movies.

Speaker 11 (57:01):
Well, I think that's why the the stunts keep getting
more and more dangerous as he's gotten older.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
He's he's successed with that ship. He's obsessed with it.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
But as far as acting, I think that's where he does.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
A lot of running.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
He's missing boat.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
He really does a lot of When he did those
like he did a couple of movies back to back
and he did that uh fucking Tropic Thunder ship. Yeah
that was that ship was fucking amazing and it was
just him like taking a little time out to do
something different. And that's like the most fun we've had
with Tom Cruise in like years.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
That's been it.

Speaker 5 (57:33):
You know, he doesn't really do anything else, so people
get I think people get bored and just go back
to the scientology stuff.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Yes, Like, well, Tom, because he's his own entity.

Speaker 11 (57:41):
He like is rarely like a guest star in somebody
else's movie, true, you know, like being in him being
in Tropic Thunders, Like, holy shit, Tom Cruise, because Tom
Cruise is only a movie that say Tom Cruise. You know,
he's not in any other movies at all. You think
about Favor, he's the he's the man in all of
his movie produce all this shit, yeah, all that stuff.
So anyway, it looks it looks bananas. So I'm definitely

(58:04):
going to see that. We get in there and like
the couple that were having the like the fight with
the kid come into the Gladiator and sit down a
couple of seats away from me, like and you're rolling solo.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
I'm rolling solo. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (58:18):
So they sit down and they're like kind of like
talking the whole time and like playing videos on their phones.
I'm just like, oh no, not this, you know, And
then eventually that kind of stops. She leaves two or
three times throughout like the beginnings of the previews and
then the first twenty minutes of the movie, and a
lot of walking back and forth coming from these two,

(58:40):
and I was like, oh my god, please stop, because
first of all, I'm just waiting for the movie to
get loud enough so I can bust out my sandwich.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
You know what I'm saying. You know, I'm cause I'm
about to I'm not this.

Speaker 11 (58:50):
Foil, you know, sitting there hilarious. So I finally get
to that moment. So the movie starts, and you right
from the beginning, you go like, oh shit, I forgot.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
This is like a sequel to another movie.

Speaker 11 (59:04):
So they have to be like, oh, this guy is
gonna be the old gladiator's son or whatever.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah, so anyway, it's.

Speaker 11 (59:12):
Kind of like nothing happens at the beginning until Denzel
Washington gets there, and then pretty much without spoiling the movie,
it's pretty much just like a pretty good episode of
Game of Thrones, except if Denzel Washington was in Game throws.
You know, Denzel Washington and Pedro Pascal were just on
Game of Thrones for an hour and a half, two hours,
That's pretty much what it was. It was like a

(59:34):
lot of talking, a lot of old timey politics, the
Roman politics. Oh then like the villains are like two
sickly kids that are the king, and then he just
have black then he just have gladiator fights. Oh wow,
I forgot what that guy even looked like. Action packed,
action packed it in some in some spots, really great
part in which they flood the coliseum with like water,

(59:57):
which they did in real life and make do like
naval because the thing was so huge or whatever. So
that was that was dope at shit and they and
that was like some of the best shit in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
I looked to my left.

Speaker 11 (01:00:07):
Homegirl is like tongue out, passed out, like falling out
of the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Chair, Your girl, No, I'm going solo. How many times
I say this.

Speaker 11 (01:00:18):
That Homegirls like home Going to the left? It was
with my men kept getting up. She finally settled in.
Turns out is because she had passed out, and that
was great. No sound came over there, and then about
twenty minutes before the movie was over, they both got
up and left. It's long, right long, it was cut.
It was two hours. It was it wasn't too long

(01:00:39):
for something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
It's normal.

Speaker 11 (01:00:41):
It was normal. It wouldn't it wasn't stupid long. I
gave it a you know, c plus is I you
kind of forget that it's happening until you see Denzel
again and go, oh, there's no Washington's here, and then
when he leaves the state the screen, it's just like
it's just like some white people like being in like roam,
just walking around boring.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Is it pretty pretty brutal, pretty gory.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
It's it's gory.

Speaker 11 (01:01:04):
No, it's got gory moments, but it ain't like fucking
scream or nothing. You know, it's not like nasty, like
hostile or something like that. But it does have some
gory moments. Of course.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
You know, they have to do that historic gore historic war.

Speaker 11 (01:01:17):
Yeah, historic gore, yeah, c plus Denzel is still good
historic yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
H sweet.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
Okay, we'll speaking of epics this that's gonna be this episode,
depending on what how long it is. H So we're
going to we're gonna do mad big ups and then
we should uh make sure that Zach lets everybody know
where we could find him and all that shit, because
he has spent a lot of time hanging out with us.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
We appreciate it, thank you, man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Yeah, yeah, man, of course I appreciate you.

Speaker 10 (01:01:46):
Guys got me and again you know I said it before,
but yeah, I've been listening since like day one, and
the fact that I mean this sounds real cheesy, but
throughout like the pandemic and everything, you guys didn't skip
a beat or miss an episode or anything. And it's
really cool that you guys have been keeping this going
this whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
And yeah, I mean, everyone their health fan man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I love the show. So thanks for having me on.

Speaker 11 (01:02:07):
Yeah, man, thanks for being here. Yeah, what can they find?
What can people find you online?

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
So first and foremost, I guess probably YouTube.

Speaker 10 (01:02:14):
I have a YouTube channel that's just my name, Zach
Wish z A h Wish wy s H. And I'm
on Instagram as well at zz wish. And yeah again
that that uh Seal show that we just did is
on YouTube if you just look up Sealed. It was
in Switzerland, so Seal Switzerland twenty twenty four. It's yeah,
you can see what we've been up to.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
So I'm gonna hook it up to the algorithm and
shit and we'll get it. We'll get it popping on there.
Make sure that people go to it and uh, you
know all that from.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Our Oh hell yeah man, very much, give you season.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
Make sure that oh yeah, make sure they will give
them that shout out.

Speaker 10 (01:02:49):
Yeah, oh man, Well, yeah, man, I'm definitely always trying
to catch you guys live around town, and you know,
I listened to all your guys projects and stuff like that,
so it's yeah, man, it's cool to see everybody putting
stuff out.

Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
Facts facts, Man, Do we really appreciate you taking the
time after this? It's super fun and uh, it's it's doped.
Always talk to a hometown cat. You know, it makes
it out here. You know it's out here. It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
You know what I'm saying, Son, I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Hell yeah, all right, thanks buddy.

Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
We're gonna, I think we're gonna let's do mad big ups,
mad big ups do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
It all right, all right, yeah here, let me and
we'll hit the thing. Well, oh, this is pretty first
eight and a half. Oh yeah, eight and a half.

Speaker 11 (01:03:28):
It's only one mad big ups eight and a half.
Churchhill in Richmond, Virginia.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Uh. I think they're open for about seven years or
something like that.

Speaker 11 (01:03:37):
Shout us to to Ryan Jones just closed recently. There's
a nice little family of people making some good ship,
making some good food, and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
It was fun to being in that part of that community.
I love being part of the little.

Speaker 11 (01:03:49):
Restaurant culture so mad, big ups eight and a half Churchill, Hell.

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
Yeah, I mean ship. I mean I love eat and
a half. So it's it's really sad.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Okay, man, we still got the still got the other one.
Yeah yeah, but.

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
Either way, everybody's out there, you own unique ship, so
that's true. I'm miss depending this that but uh yeah,
that's pretty much it. I think we're gonna we're gonna
we're gonna take a little take a little break and
do some slaps.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Sounds good, right, let's do it. Thank you, Zach, Thank.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
You Zach Man.

Speaker 10 (01:04:21):
Really, thank you guys again, and yeah, give me a
shout if you ever need anything or oh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
We will, oh we will stuff, we will.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
We got an ache pedal. Yeah yeah, demo ache pedal man.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
Yeah, James's yeah you need that ship, bro, you need that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
And we'll talk about that later anyway, they use that
con on here. We're gonna do slaps.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Yeah, just guys, take care of all right later on thanks.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
Man, slap just slip all right, about to slap it
up with some uh some whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
James picks slips lap. Got a lot of stuff this
week is uh it's fourth quarter, No no.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Listeners submitted stuff any of this.

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
The last four I believe our listener submitted Yes, I'm.

Speaker 8 (01:05:32):
Gonna start with this though Coheed and Cambria. Okay, see
this song is called searching for Tomorrow, like a metal.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
The last transer to figure things out. Oh really, a antle.

Speaker 12 (01:06:08):
When the Bobbies can't stay saund They had enhanced the
future become. So it doesn't matter because you finding monkey she.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
Would never wanted.

Speaker 8 (01:06:33):
So she.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
My son, you know, stand and people to train into
the frames.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
I thought they sounded different than this. I thought they
were heavier than this to think of.

Speaker 8 (01:06:52):
Somebody else, a little more classic metal sound normal, right, yea, yes,
they're more like a not new metals but heady.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Right yeah, They're more like a.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Yellow breathing.

Speaker 12 (01:07:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:07:18):
So she took you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
My trade into the bathing, makes you damn design.

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
There we go, There we go, goddamn. Okay, alright, I

(01:08:18):
was not gonna like that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Initially.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
I really wasn't crazy about that opening guitar. I'm like,
it feels like a little Iron Maiden maiden ish.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Yeah, that's what I meant by like classics.

Speaker 5 (01:08:33):
Which is like, yeah, not my thing. Major uh sounding
I'm not into that kind of ship, but as a
guy that when we got to the hook the chorus,
I actually liked it. And then that middle section was
actually really really good too, So this is actually pretty good.

(01:08:55):
I wasn't gonna like it, but I actually do like it.
The mixing stuff. When they switch that bridge with the
guitar solo and stuff, I'm like, that's really interesting how
they switch it up like that and kind of opened
everything up.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
It's a lot of guitars.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
I mean, it's like like a lot of guitars they
fit in there. It sounds good though, I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
For for that layered like guitar sound just feels like,
you know, they like a lot of like they really
squeezing it. There's a lot of guitars and then the
drums too, a lot of space going on. It's crazy,
but it was cool. So I'm letting it slap. It's
it was bouncy enough.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
But it worked. Uh yeah, I would. I wouldn't mad
at this. I mean it's kind of I mean, I'm
on the fence of whether or not it slaps.

Speaker 11 (01:09:42):
It's a real throwback, you know to just like some
two thousands emo pop pop punk mixed with a little
bit of like classic metal. But yeah, the way what
you're describing how it's mixed is like definitely very like
high budget it mix.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, I thought it's
done very well.

Speaker 11 (01:10:04):
Yeah, your head nods. It sounds it sounds good. It's
just kind of not for me. Even though it sounds good. Yeah,
it sounds fine. I'm not gonna do that. It sounds fine.
I'm gonna give it a like it's it's fine slap.

(01:10:25):
It's not for me, but it sounds good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Because it could be not for me, but it's still
can slap. Yeah, it's not for me, but it sounds good,
you know. Uh yeah, So I mean I thought it
was good, but I don't think it slaps.

Speaker 13 (01:10:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
I like that guitar sound, that guitar solo, but I
mean I'm not really I'm not really into it. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:10:51):
Okay, let's see, all right, let's take uh one of
these suggestions.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Shout out to Rob friend of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Okay, uh the voids.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
Okay, so yeah, this is uh a slack we missed.

Speaker 5 (01:11:12):
This is a Julian Cassablanca's other band from the Strokes Boys,
seven Horses.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
We were riding.

Speaker 9 (01:11:42):
On the.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Drag us to hell.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
What good went wrong? But I will strong.

Speaker 14 (01:11:58):
Now we hid inside this.

Speaker 6 (01:12:05):
Turn out about it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
It's got to think of by all over you're gone.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
It's a lot of thing live.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
It's all over it, I say, outside.

Speaker 9 (01:12:20):
Drowning out.

Speaker 6 (01:12:23):
Sign even by the battle, Yeah, get.

Speaker 7 (01:12:36):
That name in them and after those are way, Hello, MX,
got some weird martyr thing on you.

Speaker 13 (01:12:46):
Sorry, I was not the man kind of revised me
of gorillas a little bit by matter fucking mack Mans
the banishing me.

Speaker 9 (01:13:09):
We ride.

Speaker 14 (01:13:12):
Diamond trail, seven horses dragged.

Speaker 5 (01:13:18):
A stand.

Speaker 14 (01:13:22):
A giant miles save my prayer, steering do the barrow stair.

Speaker 9 (01:13:36):
TI on about it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
We're don't give it on.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Myles It outside drowning artis s sad even brought a battle.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
It's a lot going on here. I'm fucking over this song.

Speaker 5 (01:14:12):
Yeah, that kind of into.

Speaker 8 (01:14:15):
This is. This is the worst mixed song I've heard
on slaps in a long time. Not just like, oh
it's over satury, it's over thick ified. It's like it's
like they were in the studio and somebody you didn't
know what they were doing, was like cleaning the mixer
and the faders like went all over the place, like
so that the fucking the chimes like louder than the vocals.
The vocals are down and like the kick drums, like

(01:14:37):
in the bass, like the the blow end got turned
up to us pretty almost like yo, just print it
like that. It sounds like somebody forgot to do something
or something like that. From the beginning, the vocals you
can hear them at all, but then like on the
left side, there's this like a ding dong type of
pad effect that's like louder than everything. And then when

(01:14:57):
the bass comes and starts doing like normal shiit, it's
like so loud, like it's louder than all the drums
except for the high hat, which for some reason on
the other side.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Is like incredibly loud. It's just like the worst. I
hate this, Like I once I got past that kind
of then I was just like, what are we even
doing here?

Speaker 8 (01:15:17):
Like why like why, Like you can't hear the vocals
so it's not like there's a melody over it or
anything like that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
That was bizarre.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
So you're saying, no, absolutely not, I can't condone this
at all.

Speaker 5 (01:15:30):
I fully agree. It started off okay, and then like
it just got annoying because that's because like his his
voice sounded pretty good in the beginning.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
Actually, yeah, I was like you could hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
And then for some reasoning else came in.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
Then we lost half of that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
We lost half fire their engineer.

Speaker 11 (01:15:47):
It was I that was them fast that they fire themselves,
because that's some indie ship. They were just they were
I think they accidentally over mixed it to like but
they don't. This is like, I'm so cool kind of mixed,
you know, I'm so cool looking. I'm taking this out
on the drums and like taking the stereo out to

(01:16:08):
the left.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
And very indulgent.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
Yeah, it's it's I mean, like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Yeah, if it got better. Yeah, the song is four
and a half minutes long.

Speaker 9 (01:16:17):
As that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
That is so long. It's too long.

Speaker 5 (01:16:20):
I was like by the time we got to the
second chorus again, I was like, man, this is terrible.
It's like this should have been this is the way
it should have been way better.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Uh now, yeah, I'm devoid of feeling.

Speaker 11 (01:16:35):
Yeah, I like the chorus other than his auto tune
was a little distracting. Yes, it's like odd sounding auto tune,
but uh, I thought the chorus was dope. I like
the way those chords was moving. Then like do do
Do Do Do Do Do? I liked all that ship
but the reggae in the beginning, Yeah, and then what

(01:16:56):
then was like that ship I forgot? Yeah, it's like
cowboy reggae, Like when.

Speaker 5 (01:17:06):
It this actually was all right, this is fine to me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
It's fine so far. Yeah, I was like, okay, they
do a little specialty. They just started a Yeah, I'm
not mad that though. This sounds great, Like nope, what
was that? I'm okay with this. I was fine with it.
But Rake, the reggae is about horses.

Speaker 5 (01:17:28):
Everything is getting louder, but the vocals are not getting licked.

Speaker 11 (01:17:33):
And then it's gonna get I feel like the mix
is its own animal, and like you either love it
or hater, you know what I mean with these like
huge taking mixes.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
But all this part, like this, all this, it.

Speaker 8 (01:17:45):
Takes the emphasis off what you think would be the
part of the song you're going to draw attention.

Speaker 11 (01:17:50):
Yeah, and I think this, I think this part of
the song is cool. It's just fixed kind of it's
just mixed crazy, this mixed weird. What happens in the drugs,
all right, But.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
I didn't.

Speaker 11 (01:18:02):
I honestly didn't hate it until it was like all
of that mixed together made me be like, ah, this
is just like I'm not gonna listen.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
To this these dudes right, so nah, I can't let
us laugh. Even though there's ship in there. I like too.

Speaker 5 (01:18:15):
I like the way there's that little arpeggiated thing sounded.
It's it's one of those things crazy. It's all the
cool ship put together. It's like, and it don't it
don't add up.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
It's yeah, everything that's trending mixed.

Speaker 5 (01:18:29):
It's just you know, yeah, it's got every drum machine
that I like. Everything sounded cool, but I didn't like
what they did it, what they did with it. And
then on top of it, that auto tune, Yeah, that's
totally sh it was was annoying to me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
It's slathered.

Speaker 5 (01:18:43):
It was weird and the thick five and he found
every plug in Let's do one more, let's.

Speaker 6 (01:18:48):
Do one more.

Speaker 8 (01:18:48):
So this thing, uh crumb, it's the artist Crumb heard
of them. I think there's a spress a mama, am
am a mama.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
I guess okay, are.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
We going that a my.

Speaker 8 (01:19:05):
Mello? Not till ten man?

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Okay, thank your pan is all.

Speaker 10 (01:19:17):
Right right now, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
You now.

Speaker 15 (01:20:12):
Show still very US sail people were like kind of

(01:20:53):
crazy the tail, Yeah, I used the bathroom right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
All right, at the end a little more is that
in the middle. We're at the end of the song.

Speaker 15 (01:21:35):
He does this for a little while.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
It's the end of the song pretty much. Okay, uh,
I'll go first.

Speaker 8 (01:21:45):
He saw gives a baby powder slap was almost said
the exact same words.

Speaker 11 (01:21:49):
This is a this is a return of the baby powder. Yeah, yeah,
interesting return of the baby powder.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
That's for Reggie there, Yeah, I give it a little
baby powder.

Speaker 5 (01:22:01):
Yeah, you know it's you know, the drums, I feel
like I'm like, those are the Tame and Polo's drums.
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
You got this. I thought it was like I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:22:16):
I was like, man, it feels like not nah.

Speaker 11 (01:22:20):
Plus the thick five. I'm like, this feels like this
was this was the Tame and Paula preset. You put
this on your whole miss. That's what I be able
to click that there should be a Tame and Poula
button in logic.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Somewhere or n PC you ever. They got to call
it something else. Yeah, just make the vocals do that
make the drums do that? Or the Kevin Parker series
put the loose.

Speaker 5 (01:22:41):
Somebody needs to go ahead and do that if they
haven't yet, because like that's what it sounds like, an
impression almost. Drums are kind of you know, it was interesting,
the vocals are kind of cool. I like the illusion
that it was going to go somewhere ghosts, and it
kind of didn't for me. So I don't know if

(01:23:02):
I can really let it slap because I feel like, again,
it's like all the elements are there, you know, like
the elusive kind of voice, you know, and like the
it's you know, it's shadowy, and it's all.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
The ghost vocals, ghost choir.

Speaker 5 (01:23:17):
All of that is there, you know. But I could
have used a little bit more of something to pull
me in more, uh pause after he used the guitar
or something something like more of a something, something a
little more like you know, it just didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
So I can't.

Speaker 5 (01:23:38):
I'm not gonna let that one. But you know, that's
all right, that's all right, that's all right. They all
can't be winners. Ladies and gentlemen. We're back next week
with a very special episode. We appreciate everyone of y'all
for listening.

Speaker 4 (01:23:55):
Thank you guys so

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Much, and sadly the podcast is no more

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