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July 30, 2025 46 mins

In this episode of The Identity Heroes, Chris Rich, the Business Information Security Officer at MassMutual, joins Aldo Pietropaolo for an insightful discussion on modern identity and cybersecurity leadership.

Chris shares his unique career journey—from sales and theater to leading IAM at a Fortune 100 financial firm—and explores the difference between customer and workforce identity, the importance of stakeholder trust, and the balance between risk and user experience. This conversation is full of real-world wisdom for those navigating the identity space.

Key Takeaways:

  • IAM can transform organizations when aligned with business outcomes
  • Security must enable—not obstruct—the user journey
  • Prioritization is critical in cybersecurity decision-making
  • Customer identity requires a different approach from workforce identity
  • Courage and listening are vital leadership skills


This conversation dives into:

  • The evolving role of a BISO
  • The tension between security and friction
  • How IAM supports customer trust in financial services
  • Measuring success and prioritizing initiatives
  • The future of cybersecurity in the age of AI


🎙 The views expressed in this episode are solely those of the guest and do not represent the opinions of their employer or family.


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