January 8, 2025 • 32 mins
This episode celebrates the beloved comfort food, pizza, diving into its rich history, regional variations, and the ongoing debate about toppings. Join us for a delicious journey as we unite through our shared passion for this universally loved dish.
• Exploring the origins and evolution of pizza
• Discussing the secrets to a great pizza
• Debating traditional favorite and unconventional toppings
• Investigating how pizza took over the United States
• Examining unique toppings found worldwide
• Sharing personal pizza preferences and listener engagement
Please rate, like and review wherever you get your podcasts. Also, what's your favorite topping or what's the one that you can't stand? Let us know on social media.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What are we doing today?
I don't know what's going on,not like the episode, chris.
What are we doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I was trying to do an opening, Chris.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, I was trying to start us off.
Get into it.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Chris goes, I don't know, chris, this is the first
episode, so bring the energy ofthe new season.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
This is the season of new energy Season three.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I hope someone dies in this episode.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
That's the energy that we need.
Welcome back to.
I'm Not Dumb, but Today we'regoing to take a look at
something that's close toeveryone's heart and stomach
Pizza.
Ever wondered where it allstarted or what the best topping
really are?
Stay tuned as we unpack thehistory of pizza and the
ultimate topping debate.
I'm Not Dumb, but what is thebest pizza topping?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Welcome to the I'm Not Dumb but podcast, where we
won't claim to have the answersto life's deepest questions but
we'll give you an excitingjourney into the realms of
knowledge you never knew you'dneed Might be mainstream, but
not common knowledge.
From artificial intelligence toconspiracy theories, no topic
is too taboo for us to explore.
Let's get curious together.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I'm your host, chris, and I'm joined by Rob.
Hello, cesar, yo Victor, howy'all doing?
I gotta ask, okay, what do youthink is the secret to a good
pizza?
The water, no Water.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I definitely agree on the water, water, I definitely
agree on that.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Water, water, water.
Is that why the pizza in Calialways sucks?
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Because it's not a New York City water.
Is that real?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I think so Tell me if I ship over water.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Some places do.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yes.
And their product is better.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I don't know, I don't travel everywhere.
I've heard that with bagels.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I've heard that with bagels, bagels, with bagels.
I lived in New York, troy, Iknow what a bagel is, all right.
So water, I'd say that you know.
So I guess the water wouldchange the crust and I agree
with.
But I think Sauce is prettyimportant too, I agree.
I agree, because if the doughsucks, the pizza sucks.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
But if dough sucks?
But if you have a decenttopping it's still good.
It still makes it better.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Because the dough has all the consistency.
It has the.
You need that nice, thin,crispy dough.
It's the texture All right.
All right, I'm starving.
What time does the pizzeriaclose?
You could do Domino's.
Oh, the cheesy bed.
Remember cheesy bread.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Remember cheesy bread .
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Ugh that cheesy bread was fire.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I don't know what it was.
Maybe it was because we werehigh, maybe because we were
young, maybe because we weredrinking underage, but Domino's
pizza just hit the spot.
Sometimes it was garbage,absolute garbage, but it hit the
spot.
It really did Trash.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I will not order it.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Not even, if you so, between Domino's or Pizza Hut
what's your favorite?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I can't remember ever having Pizza Hut.
See, I grew up on Pizza Hut.
What's your favorite?
I can't remember ever havingPizza.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Hut.
See, I grew up on Pizza Hut,yeah, and so I always have the
taste of Pizza Hut over Domino's, yeah, same here, no one on
Pizza Hut.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
So before we start arguing about the best toppings,
let me give you some historylessons on pizza.
Oh, by the way, do we stillhave our?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
time machine.
I mean, I think so, I think itstill works.
Jump in the time machine.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Why not Shotgun?
Hold on, let me hit the alarm.
Who's hitting the button?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Where are we going, fucking, tell us.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
We're gonna go to ancient civilization.
Honestly, I don't even know,but he's gonna go way back.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Are we going to?
Yeah, caesar just got so amped.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I was like what I'm gonna put in some vague fucking
coordinates here?
Speaker 4 (03:57):
just go way back, just go way back, just way back
way back 1979.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, we just started .
Alright, here we go Way back.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, way back 1979.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, we just started .
Speaker 3 (04:15):
All right, here we go .
Speaker 4 (04:26):
So we're in, I'll say , way back to ancient
civilization, to Greek where weland, I don't know, in Italy,
ancient Rome, Ancient Rome, andEgyptians and Greeks.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
This is some diverse fucking place.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
All right, here we are.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Here we are, roughly 2000.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
BC.
Sure, why not?
Why not wait?
We don't know how far back?
No, they don't.
I think I couldn't find thetime.
That was the thing he just.
They just say it's ancientcivilization where the fuck you
looking wikipedia usingwikipedia is your source
information the concepts offlatbreads with toppings can be
traced back to ancientcivilizations like Egyptians and
Greeks and Romans.
Okay, so ancient Greeks arecredited with making the
(05:13):
flatbread topped with olive oil,herbs and cheese, which could
be considered a processor topizza.
I mean, that sounds like afocaccia Bro.
Back in the day that's what itwas.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
That's how it's Like.
Somewhere in the Mediterraneanancient civilization we had a
flatbread and they put what onit?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Olive oil, olive oil, herbs, sea salt, any sea salt,
probably some herbs.
Imagine some Egyptian guy.
He comes running out of like akitchen and he goes guys, guys,
guys, we got flatbread.
And of like a kitchen and hegoes guys, guys, guys we got
flatbread, and then they juststart fucking celebrating like
oh shit, someone put cheese onit, try this olive oil they have
(05:52):
a cart outside making flatbreadit's halal.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, what do they call this flatbread?
Like pita?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I don't know if there was a name for it or not, but
they just described it asflatbreads.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Okay, and so who created za'atar?
No, that was the fact.
If you hate Aladdin and youlike good food, this is the
place for you.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
The pizza, as we know today, is originated in Naples,
italy, napoli.
The word pizza was firstdocumented in 1997 AD.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Wait, did we just jump to 1997?
No, 1997 AD.
That doesn't sound right Likeit came out with the PlayStation
.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I told you we had.
Brooklyn.
Yeah, that doesn't sound rightbro.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
No, no, no, I'm sorry .
997 AD.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
That makes more sense that's like 97.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, so 900.
Okay, that makes more sense,dude.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Okay, that makes Okay my bad.
That was my bad.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Mugsy, bogues, jordan , delonco.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
They came out with Space Jam and we coined.
What are you?
An idiot sandwich.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Alright, that was my bad, but um so again.
997 AD In Gita, italy.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Gaeta.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Italy Ah, that makes sense.
But it wasn't until the 1700sIn Naples.
Gaeta, italy, gaeta, italy Ah,that makes sense.
But it wasn't until the 1700sin Naples that it became closer
to the modern version.
Until then it was just likebasic flatbread olive oil, you
know, just simple stuff, cheese,and over time the toppings
evolved to include tomatoes andcheese.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Oh, so they didn't start with tomato?
Well, they didn't have tomatoes.
Tomatoes came from the NorthAmerica.
What, yeah, really?
Tomatoes are native to NorthAmerica.
Europe didn't have tomatoesuntil colonization.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So they didn't even have a pizza sauce at all, like
a tomato sauce.
So then why the hell am I goingto the store?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
and only buying Italian tomatoes San Marzano?
Yeah, because they grew betterin volcanic ash.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Fake news, bro.
Fake news Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
According to Google AI, tomatoes are native to South
America.
In fact, several species arestill found growing wild in the
Andes, Brought to Mexicotomatoes were domesticated and
cultivated there by 500 BC.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Oh wow, the tomatoes were brought to Italy by Spanish
conquistadors.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So imagine they spent .
The roman empire had notomatoes, no tomato sauce.
How fucking crazy is that?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I would have thought there was tomatoes being thrown
about they had nothing to throw,what did they throw?
Cabbage, probably cabbage.
Yes, cabbage through cabbage, Ithink I saw that that in a
movie like in Troy or something,they threw a cabbage Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Holy shit.
And apparently pizza was like astreet food.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I'd say it's still a street food when you're drunk at
night and going home from thebars you're grabbing pizza.
Dollar slice $1.25 now.
They don't change the signs,though.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Those things exist.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
For all our European listeners if you ever go to New
York City and you see a dollarslice, they're going to charge
you about $1.25.
They haven't changed the signs.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Also, the place has a C rating.
That's how you know it's legit,yep.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
C is good C is for consume.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Consume.
Yeah, all right, it's legit yep, c is good.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
C is for consume, consume.
Yeah, all right, it's time forfun.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Fun facts with chris do you guys know how margarita
pizza came about?
It's from a princess or someshit.
Oh, very close.
How do you know?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
how do you know?
How do you know that?
How do you know all of this?
You're not even Italian, whatthe hell.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I know everything.
I'm a Portuguese.
You're always like we used toknow about the tomatoes.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Wow, in 1889, pizza gained international fame when
Rafael Esposito Esposito, apizza maker from Okay, I'm just
gonna.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Can I just stop you for a second?
Anytime you say an italian word, you gotta say it with
italianness.
Any names?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
rafael esposito I'll try, I'll do it all right.
And then he created a pizza forqueen margarita of savoy.
The pizza featured tomato red,mozzarella white it's mozzarella
Mozzarella and basil green,representing colors of Italian
(10:37):
flag.
Hence the name Pizza Margheritaoh my god, pizza Margherita,
pizza Margherita, pizzaMargherita, pizza Margherita,
pizza Margherita, pizzaMargherita, pizza Margherita,
pizza Margherita.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Pizza Margherita.
Pizza Margherita, that shitprobably killed that night,
bellissima.
Those people were probablyblown, they're like this is
Italy right here, this isfreedom, that was creative.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
So when Italian immigrants brought pizza to the
US in the late 19th centuries,particularly to cities like New
York, chicago and Philly, andinitially it was popular among
Italian-American communities.
But the pizza gained popularityafter World War II when
soldiers returned from Italycraving for pizza.
(11:18):
In the 1950s pizza chains likeDomino's and Pizza Hut emerged.
They started in the 50s.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Wow, that kind of sad , though.
What do you mean?
So Domino's is out here andit's, you know, spreading
throughout the country,introducing people to pizza for
the first time, and they havetheir first experience of pizza.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Shitty fucking domino's pizza it was probably
really good then it was probablystill shit, yeah, probably do
you remember wendy's burgersback in the day, like growing up
, yeah, and then them now that'sall.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Fast food was peak, though, in the 90s.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
To be honest, it felt like after COVID everything.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
food quality no it was way before COVID that went
down when they started gettingrid of trans fats, but RFK is
going to change all that.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Is he bringing them back?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
He's bringing back polio.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But not trans fats.
That shit will kill you.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
A lot of.
It's a hoax.
It's a hoax, I mean, it's amoney making industry.
Okay, the American innovationled to the creation of regional
pizza styles like New York thincrust and Chicago deep dish.
What does Philly have?
Cheesesteaks.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Cheesesteaks, cheesesteaks and high crime.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I've never had a Chicago deep dish.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It's not a pizza, it's a fucking casserole.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah, you can say that.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, that's what it seems like, and everyone says
that it's like underwhelming.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
There's also Detroit style pizza.
What's that it's like?
Made in a tray.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I that it's like made in a tray.
I do like.
Like a deep dish pizza, thoughsometimes A thicker crust.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
yes, yeah, like a like a pan pizza.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Is that a Detroit style?
Yeah, so.
So I'm from Portland, oregon,right?
So there's no like Portlandstyle pizza or anything.
So I grew up eating like PizzaHut.
Do you guys have heard ofPapa's Pizza?
Papa John's, papa John's, isthat Papa John's?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, papa John's, yeah, papa's, or Papa John's,
maybe john's, papa john's, isthat papa?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
john's, yeah, papa, john's.
Yeah, papa's or papa john.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Maybe it's papa john, they're big on the west coast.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
So right, so I thought.
Until I came to new york Ithought that was it.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
That's sad it's better than that is sad.
There's people in this worldliving that that's sad.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
currently at papa john you can get the Chacaroni
Pizza Extra large, extrapepperoni, extra cheese.
It's our extra biggie, ultrafoldy super pepperoni pizza.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
By the 1980s and the 90s, pizza had spread worldwide,
adapted to local taste, withvariation appearing in nearly
every country.
The pizza industry now is amulti-billion dollar global
market, with both traditionalpizzerias and fast food chain.
Toppings have expanded farbeyond the basic with options
(13:57):
like pineapple, truffle oil oreven dessert pizzas.
I found some interesting pizzatoppings around the world and I
want to see what you guysthinkapan mayo jaga, mayo jaga.
So apparently jaga is potato,so it's a combination of mayo,
potatoes and bacon, so it oftencomes with a creamy and savory
(14:19):
flavor.
I think it's like a potatosalad.
What's this?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
sauce.
I have seen shrimp and mayo asa popular japanese pizza shrimp.
I never tried it because I'm anew yorker and therefore we'll
never eat that shit man, yeah,that sounds gross.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I you know, when I see mayo at huh, it's kind of
like one of like a bacon cheddarranch that kind of gives me
that vibe.
It's good for one slice.
You do a couple of slices ofthat and you're just kind of
getting your stomach's gettingweird, Okay next place,
Australia.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
G'day mate, Maybe some fosters and some kangaroos.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, definitely going there.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Wow, well done.
I've never been able to do theAustralian accent.
I just able to do theAustralian accent.
Just try to make.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Can't do it, still can't do it, I'll crack it out.
Done it recently.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
If you're listening out in Australia, please rate
that.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Leave a comment.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Leave a comment, subscribe, reach out to us.
All right, mate I don't knowSounds like a pirate Sounds like
Johnny Depp in the third videoDick, I'm Captain Jack Sparrow.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
So some pizzerias offer kangaroo meat as topping.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I was gonna say that but I just thought it was like
too on the nose.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
They said that it gives pizza like a gamey and
exotic twist to it.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I guess that's putting like any type of like,
like venison on a pizza right isthat what really they're eating
that?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
and I feel like they probably eat a lot of seafood or
something I don't know, maybe,maybe a dingo got the pizza damn
I, I gotta step back a dingo,ate your baby.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I have lost my fiance , the poor baby.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, but I don't know Would you guys try that.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Would you guys try kangaroo?
I'd try kangaroo in a second.
You gotta try it once, Chris.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I'd try kangaroo just to say I tried it, you gotta
try it once.
Next place is Sweden Meatballs,obviously.
Yep obviously Swedish meatballsEasy.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
But Obviously Swedish meatballs.
But I don't feel that's a weird.
I've seen regular pizza placeswith fucking.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
But it's not just meatballs.
They often pair it with creamysauce like lingonberry jam and
cream potatoes to reflecttraditional Swedish flavor
Sounds like some Viking shit.
So whatever you get in Ikea,they just mix it together and
put it on this topping.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
You got to assemble it yourself.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I just don't like the idea of potatoes on a pizza.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It's a little too high carb for me.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You know what's the weirdest pizza I've ever had
Tuna pizza.
Yeah, they do like a tuna salad.
I know what you're talkingabout.
I'm telling you this one placedoes it tuna salad.
I know what you're talkingabout.
I'm telling you Uh-huh, thisone place does it right.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
If you know you know, Next country is Thailand.
Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Chlamydia Close, but no.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You get that after you eat it.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
It comes with the pizza.
They have Pad Thai pizza, padThai with the pizza.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
They have pad thai pizza.
Pad thai, pad thai, pad thai.
Yeah, that's too much, yeah,that sounds like a lot.
Yeah, the pizza's an extra stepat that point.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
South Korea uses sweet potatoes.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Again with the potatoes, do you?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
like that Sweet potato like fried Depends.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
It's sometimes they mash, Sometimes they use as like
a wedges.
It all depends.
It's actually pretty good.
You would say that, Chris, Somereason Korean like the pizza in
Korea.
Like Korean people like sweetpizza.
So often in Korea's pizza haveketchup on it.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
So I'm looking at a photo of it Guguma pizza.
Yeah, Guguma is sweet potatoes.
It doesn't look bad.
You're just picturing pizzawith a fucking with sweet potato
on it.
There's more stuff to it thanthat.
There's more flavor to it thanthat.
What?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
What does it say?
Mustard?
It's baked, mashed, pureed.
It's like a double, twice-bakedpotato pizza.
Yeah, I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I don't like the look of it.
It'll rise.
I think it'll be better.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
The thought of it is worse than what it actually
looks like.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
If you want to have like Korean pizza, I guess next
time you eat pizza get a ketchup.
No Dip into the ketchup andtake a bite with it.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
no, I will not do that chris, if I see you doing
that, I'm fucking calling you tothe trump's deportation team
I'm reporting you to papa trump.
They're gonna get rid of youbecause you'd be in jail next
country is france.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Croissant pizza escargot no no, no, I I call
bullshit I call bullshit.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Where did?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
you get this list from.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
This is like why it's just too like kangaroo yeah,
it's like stereotype, stereotypepizza, it's too stereotypical I
don't?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
They paired with garlic butter and herbs.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I feel like they would have gone with a ham and
like a brie or a duck it'sdisgusting.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Just look in the chat , I'm putting them all there.
Yeah, man, no this can't bereal.
That looks disgusting.
It looks like a fucking olivethat moves.
It wasn't olive that moved.
No, where to next?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
that moves.
It wasn't all of that moved.
No, number one bullshit guy.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Where to next.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Now I want to hear what's your, you guys', favorite
toppings Caesar Simple.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I'm a simpleton Favorite toppings Pepperoni,
double pepperoni, if you can.
I like the chicken bacon ranchand I like freedom on my pizza.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
In that order Freedom Freedom.
Yeah, freedom Freedom.
It's what you lose when you dipit in the ketchup.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Other than that, I'm pretty simple.
Don't go crazy With thepepperonis.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Do you like the regular original?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
ones or the smaller ones.
You know what I'm talking about.
The little cup ones are allright.
The cup ones that they likecrumble upwards and they get the
little bowl of oil on each one.
Yeah, those are okay Every timeyou eat it it's like a little
bowl of oil.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
It's the best.
We make pizza at home Well, notme, because I can't cook, but
my wife does, and she doespepperoni and banana peppers
Fire.
Then another one is the buffalochicken slice.
Those are good, ooh you walkinto a place you're not sure you
go buffalo chicken slice youcan never go wrong with that?
Now I'm done, and then a whiteslice.
(20:57):
You can't say no to a whiteslice, but I can only do one
white slice.
Pretty impressive.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
What's the difference ?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
between white slice and just regular slice, they do
the ricotta cheese the little ohyeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't say it like that.
I'm never sure if I'm actuallysaying it like that.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I say it like that to be honest those are the three.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Those are the three right there.
Okay, now you can go to fuckingvictor victor, fucking jokes.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Can I be real with you?
Can I be real with y'all?
Be real, real, son be real, bereal, real son he's trying to
kill my father say where did hetry to kill your father, son?
Plain cheese only.
No cheese, only wow seriously,what a vanilla type of guy.
I don't want shit on my pizza.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
That's such a basic, fucking bitch answer like it's
like the straight missionary ofpizza.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Plain cheese pizza.
Don't put shit on it.
It adds extra grease, it addsextra this.
It's just plain cheese pizza.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
When you guys go to a shop, do you guys add, like the
actual garlic and stuff?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, or do you guys just eat the peppers, peppers
garlic, Garlic pepper flake.
A little bit of cheese.
That's it, that's it.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I add it because other people add it.
I get no enjoyment from it.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, I look at it.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I'm like, huh, like, if I'm there and like Rob's
there and he grabs the powderedgarlic and fucking starts
dumping it on it.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I'm just going to take it to and just match.
When you add all those to likeplain regular slice, it enhances
the flavor?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
No, it doesn't.
It gets lost in the sauce.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Bro, pizza is pizza, regardless of what it is Shitty
pizza, it's still good pizza.
Yeah, seriously.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
That's why we like Domino's.
It's fucking shit, sometimes at3 am it's the only place open.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
If you have to put one topping on it, what would
you do?
What would it be?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
If it's like a regular pizza place, I'll do
chicken cutlet like a chopped upchicken cutlet.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Throw that on top extra protein.
But wait, hold up, don't youthink that's more of like a New
York City thing though?
Chicken cutlets, yeah, I feellike, why not?
I don chicken cutlets, yeah, Ifeel like, why not?
I don't know, I'm asking, Idon't know.
I don't remember saying chickencutlets in portland.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
so no, no, no, it's never on the menu.
You have to ask for it and theydon't charge you, they'll
charge you like six bucks extrato do it but yeah, you just have
to ask.
Yeah, so the chicken make arent the pizza places here
usually have like chicken parm,so I just want them to take that
chicken from the chicken parm,chop it up and then fucking put
it on my pizza for some reasonthat costs six dollars yeah, um
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jesus, or, depending on where Igo, hot oil hot oil, hot oil
actually it's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I'm with you on that fucking.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
That's the shit you drip out of the pizza.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
No, it comes in a pepper oh.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
What are your thoughts on dessert pizza Nah.
I had to say You've never hadit.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Dessert pizza Like a cheesecake.
I think I had it before, but no, it's like a paste, kind of a
pastry.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
No, it's a pizza crust and it's usually covered
in Nutella, and thenmarshmallows or a fruit.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
No, I'm not a fan of Nutella.
It's too sweet for me.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I'm not a fan of Nutella because I feel like
there's nothing in Nutella.
What do?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
you mean it's just hazelnut.
It's hazelnut.
I don't even think there's anyhazelnut in Nutella.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
No, that's how they get Nutella.
It's hazelnut In America, is iteven hazelnut, isn't Nutella?
Italian Nutella contains 13%hazelnuts All right, what's the
other percentage?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Palm oil and sugar.
I still eat it.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Still 13%.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
That's not bad.
No food dyes.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
No food dyes.
That looks good.
That's like you know what itreminds me of when I see this
picture with the Nutella and thestrawberries, Like a sweet
crepe.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, it's not folded over and it's a bit thicker,
right, right, right.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I mean in this area, though, like where's the best
pizza?
Because I mean I've been to allthe ones in Brooklyn that are
all pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Oh, you got to go to New Haven Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Yeah, I heard that's the capital of the world it's
been created apparently.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I heard that too.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
What's the pizza place up there?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
The original Frank Pepe's, which is alright.
I'm not a huge fan.
Sally's Bar Modern.
A pizza Modern's my favorite.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Is it really taste different than New York City
pizzas or look different?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It looks about the same but it tastes better.
But you have to get it thereand you have to eat it there.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
You have to eat it there, right, and you can't do
it by the slice, or you have toget it.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Well, if you're sitting, down at a restaurant,
just get the pie, because you'renot going to go there, because
all these places have lines outthe door, so if you're gonna sit
there, you're gonna go all theway over there and you're gonna
sit there, you're gonna sit down, you're gonna get a pie, got it
?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I remember when I went to syracuse and they were
like, uh, we were ordering pizzafor the first time and I was
like, yeah, can I get a largepie?
And the lady goes this is apizza place, not a bakery.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
And I go what I go what?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Because apparently they don't call it pies in
central.
New York.
What do they call it?
Pizza?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Pizza, large pizza, large pizza, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, large pizza.
They don't call it a pie.
That's what she had.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
An issue with the fact that you called it a pie.
It's a pizza pie.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah yeah, she didn't know what a pie was.
She's like the over-educatedcollege asshole.
No, these were townies, so theywere uneducated.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
It shows.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
It shows.
No, she called you that.
Yeah, I mean she wasn't wrong.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I'm pretty much uneducated.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You went there with your books and shit in your
worldviews, calling it a pieTalking about pies, fucking nerd
.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Or I learned this when I came to new york was like
the regular slice.
You guys call it regular like,not like cheese pizza.
Yeah, it's cheese, I just callit cheese.
Can I get a cheese?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
you can order an extra cheese right, but no, it's
like a.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
It's like a, but you guys call it a slice or regular.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
So it's a regular one .
What would what else?
Would it be Cheese pizza, butit's your standard, it is.
Everything starts off withcheese.
It is yeah, so it's just aregular slice.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
There's a base.
Our listeners right now arejust going.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
What the fuck, are these guys talking about?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I know you start with the base slice and then you
build up, like when you do a caronline.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
The base model is the cheese pizza, so you just call
it a regular regular car
Speaker 4 (27:29):
I'll take the regular going back to the uh favorite
toppings spinach and I uh,someone in the group, one of you
guys, told me to not to saythis, but pineapple, I told you
not to say that it doesn'tbelong on fucking pizza.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I've had it and welcome to Chris's last episode
Hot pineapple it's gross dude.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
It's a hot fruit, Chris.
I'm with you, buddy.
Why are we heating it up?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, before you eat pineapple, did you just throw it
in the microwave for?
A bit Fucking.
Warm it up for yourself.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I might start now.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Oh God, I have a fruit salad.
Let me just leave it in my carduring the summertime, eat it
later.
I cut a pineapple in slices andI eat it, as God intended, whoa
whoa wait, wait, wait, wait,wait, I got something.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
What about pineapple pie?
Apple pie, you eat apple, hotPineapple pie.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, it's a different mechanism.
It's a pie.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Blueberry pie.
Ha, victor.
He said ha, take your L andkeep it moving when a guy hits
you with a ha when a guy hitsyou with a low-key hi, you might
have lost that one.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
You're done, take your L.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I learned about this pizza when I was up in Syracuse.
Have you guys tried cold pizza.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You mean leftover pizza the next morning?
No, that's the only cold one Ieat.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
So it's like a regular pie Cheese goes on first
and then the sauce goes on top.
People usually buy it and thenyou leave it out cold and you
eat it cold.
It's like a thing in upstate.
I think you can eat all pizzacold.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Like Chinese food.
It's great warm, but it's alsogreat cold which?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
is the weirdest thing .
Speaker 4 (29:14):
All right.
So what do you guys think?
What was the key takeaways?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Rob.
Listen, pizza is a staple.
We grew up with it.
It's just one of those foodswhere you can eat it hot.
You can eat it cold If yourdinner sucks, it's a great plan
B.
And you can eat it cold if yourdinner sucks, it's a great plan
b.
And you can try any differenttypes of things.
I mean the.
The beauty of it is thetoppings.
I've learned what I like for apizza and what I want and what I
(29:38):
look for, so I think it was agood one good one to talk about
victor.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Since most of us grew up in new york, pizza is a very
staple and we've had billionsof pizza options Everyone knows
about you.
Go down the streets from wherewe grew up and there's 30
million pizza places.
We can tell you about all ofthem.
We can tell you about the shadyones, the ones that make you
sick, the ones that don't.
We just try pizza and I'malways curious about how the
(30:07):
rest of the country views pizza,because the rest of the country
has shit pizza like really bad,and so it's always just like
what are you guys actuallyeating technically?
Or like do you just go toDomino's and Papa John's and are
like this is it?
This is what pizza is supposedto be?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So that's true, this is what pizza is supposed to be,
so that's true.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Being that I said that, I want, if you are
listening, to reach into thecomments and tell us what is the
local pizza that you order.
How do you order it?
What are the toppings?
Reach out to us on Twitter,YouTube or wherever the fuck
you're listening to this, andlet us know.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Also, chris has terrible taste in pizza and um,
pineapples are awesome.
Put pineapple on your pizza.
Chris goes to papa's pizza.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
If there's a playpen where you get your pizza, then
you shouldn't be eating there,caesar yeah, man, pizza is a
staple at the house.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
We eat a little bit too much pizza.
But uh the whole, uh the factabout tomatoes in italy, I did
not know that.
And shitty pizza is still goodpizza, no matter what amen.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
It's clear pizza is universally loved.
Whether you're into classic orcrazy combos, there's no wrong
way to top your slice.
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Let us know on social media.
Until next time, stay curious.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Peace.
What are we doing today?
I don't know what's going on,not like the episode, chris.
What are we doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I was trying to do an opening, Chris.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, I was trying to start us off.
Get into it.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Chris goes, I don't know, chris, this is the first
episode, so bring the energy ofthe new season.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
This is the season of new energy Season three.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I hope someone dies in this episode.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
That's the energy that we need.
Welcome back to.
I'm Not Dumb, but Today we'regoing to take a look at
something that's close toeveryone's heart and stomach
Pizza.
Ever wondered where it allstarted or what the best topping
really are?
Stay tuned as we unpack thehistory of pizza and the
ultimate topping debate.
I'm Not Dumb, but what is thebest pizza topping?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Welcome to the I'm Not Dumb but podcast, where we
won't claim to have the answersto life's deepest questions but
we'll give you an excitingjourney into the realms of
knowledge you never knew you'dneed Might be mainstream, but
not common knowledge.
From artificial intelligence toconspiracy theories, no topic
is too taboo for us to explore.
Let's get curious together.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I'm your host, chris, and I'm joined by Rob.
Hello, cesar, yo Victor, howy'all doing?
I gotta ask, okay, what do youthink is the secret to a good
pizza?
The water, no Water.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I definitely agree on the water, water, I definitely
agree on that.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Water, water, water.
Is that why the pizza in Calialways sucks?
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Because it's not a New York City water.
Is that real?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I think so Tell me if I ship over water.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Some places do.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yes.
And their product is better.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I don't know, I don't travel everywhere.
I've heard that with bagels.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I've heard that with bagels, bagels, with bagels.
I lived in New York, troy, Iknow what a bagel is, all right.
So water, I'd say that you know.
So I guess the water wouldchange the crust and I agree
with.
But I think Sauce is prettyimportant too, I agree.
I agree, because if the doughsucks, the pizza sucks.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
But if dough sucks?
But if you have a decenttopping it's still good.
It still makes it better.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Because the dough has all the consistency.
It has the.
You need that nice, thin,crispy dough.
It's the texture All right.
All right, I'm starving.
What time does the pizzeriaclose?
You could do Domino's.
Oh, the cheesy bed.
Remember cheesy bread.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Remember cheesy bread .
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Ugh that cheesy bread was fire.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I don't know what it was.
Maybe it was because we werehigh, maybe because we were
young, maybe because we weredrinking underage, but Domino's
pizza just hit the spot.
Sometimes it was garbage,absolute garbage, but it hit the
spot.
It really did Trash.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I will not order it.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Not even, if you so, between Domino's or Pizza Hut
what's your favorite?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I can't remember ever having Pizza Hut.
See, I grew up on Pizza Hut.
What's your favorite?
I can't remember ever havingPizza.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Hut.
See, I grew up on Pizza Hut,yeah, and so I always have the
taste of Pizza Hut over Domino's, yeah, same here, no one on
Pizza Hut.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
So before we start arguing about the best toppings,
let me give you some historylessons on pizza.
Oh, by the way, do we stillhave our?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
time machine.
I mean, I think so, I think itstill works.
Jump in the time machine.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Why not Shotgun?
Hold on, let me hit the alarm.
Who's hitting the button?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Where are we going, fucking, tell us.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
We're gonna go to ancient civilization.
Honestly, I don't even know,but he's gonna go way back.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Are we going to?
Yeah, caesar just got so amped.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I was like what I'm gonna put in some vague fucking
coordinates here?
Speaker 4 (03:57):
just go way back, just go way back, just way back
way back 1979.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, we just started .
Alright, here we go Way back.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, way back 1979.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, we just started .
Speaker 3 (04:15):
All right, here we go .
Speaker 4 (04:26):
So we're in, I'll say , way back to ancient
civilization, to Greek where weland, I don't know, in Italy,
ancient Rome, Ancient Rome, andEgyptians and Greeks.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
This is some diverse fucking place.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
All right, here we are.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Here we are, roughly 2000.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
BC.
Sure, why not?
Why not wait?
We don't know how far back?
No, they don't.
I think I couldn't find thetime.
That was the thing he just.
They just say it's ancientcivilization where the fuck you
looking wikipedia usingwikipedia is your source
information the concepts offlatbreads with toppings can be
traced back to ancientcivilizations like Egyptians and
Greeks and Romans.
Okay, so ancient Greeks arecredited with making the
(05:13):
flatbread topped with olive oil,herbs and cheese, which could
be considered a processor topizza.
I mean, that sounds like afocaccia Bro.
Back in the day that's what itwas.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
That's how it's Like.
Somewhere in the Mediterraneanancient civilization we had a
flatbread and they put what onit?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Olive oil, olive oil, herbs, sea salt, any sea salt,
probably some herbs.
Imagine some Egyptian guy.
He comes running out of like akitchen and he goes guys, guys,
guys, we got flatbread.
And of like a kitchen and hegoes guys, guys, guys we got
flatbread, and then they juststart fucking celebrating like
oh shit, someone put cheese onit, try this olive oil they have
(05:52):
a cart outside making flatbreadit's halal.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, what do they call this flatbread?
Like pita?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I don't know if there was a name for it or not, but
they just described it asflatbreads.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Okay, and so who created za'atar?
No, that was the fact.
If you hate Aladdin and youlike good food, this is the
place for you.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
The pizza, as we know today, is originated in Naples,
italy, napoli.
The word pizza was firstdocumented in 1997 AD.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Wait, did we just jump to 1997?
No, 1997 AD.
That doesn't sound right Likeit came out with the PlayStation
.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I told you we had.
Brooklyn.
Yeah, that doesn't sound rightbro.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
No, no, no, I'm sorry .
997 AD.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
That makes more sense that's like 97.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, so 900.
Okay, that makes more sense,dude.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Okay, that makes Okay my bad.
That was my bad.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Mugsy, bogues, jordan , delonco.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
They came out with Space Jam and we coined.
What are you?
An idiot sandwich.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Alright, that was my bad, but um so again.
997 AD In Gita, italy.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Gaeta.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Italy Ah, that makes sense.
But it wasn't until the 1700sIn Naples.
Gaeta, italy, gaeta, italy Ah,that makes sense.
But it wasn't until the 1700sin Naples that it became closer
to the modern version.
Until then it was just likebasic flatbread olive oil, you
know, just simple stuff, cheese,and over time the toppings
evolved to include tomatoes andcheese.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Oh, so they didn't start with tomato?
Well, they didn't have tomatoes.
Tomatoes came from the NorthAmerica.
What, yeah, really?
Tomatoes are native to NorthAmerica.
Europe didn't have tomatoesuntil colonization.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So they didn't even have a pizza sauce at all, like
a tomato sauce.
So then why the hell am I goingto the store?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
and only buying Italian tomatoes San Marzano?
Yeah, because they grew betterin volcanic ash.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Fake news, bro.
Fake news Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
According to Google AI, tomatoes are native to South
America.
In fact, several species arestill found growing wild in the
Andes, Brought to Mexicotomatoes were domesticated and
cultivated there by 500 BC.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Oh wow, the tomatoes were brought to Italy by Spanish
conquistadors.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So imagine they spent .
The roman empire had notomatoes, no tomato sauce.
How fucking crazy is that?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I would have thought there was tomatoes being thrown
about they had nothing to throw,what did they throw?
Cabbage, probably cabbage.
Yes, cabbage through cabbage, Ithink I saw that that in a
movie like in Troy or something,they threw a cabbage Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Holy shit.
And apparently pizza was like astreet food.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I'd say it's still a street food when you're drunk at
night and going home from thebars you're grabbing pizza.
Dollar slice $1.25 now.
They don't change the signs,though.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Those things exist.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
For all our European listeners if you ever go to New
York City and you see a dollarslice, they're going to charge
you about $1.25.
They haven't changed the signs.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Also, the place has a C rating.
That's how you know it's legit,yep.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
C is good C is for consume.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Consume.
Yeah, all right, it's legit yep, c is good.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
C is for consume, consume.
Yeah, all right, it's time forfun.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Fun facts with chris do you guys know how margarita
pizza came about?
It's from a princess or someshit.
Oh, very close.
How do you know?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
how do you know?
How do you know that?
How do you know all of this?
You're not even Italian, whatthe hell.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I know everything.
I'm a Portuguese.
You're always like we used toknow about the tomatoes.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Wow, in 1889, pizza gained international fame when
Rafael Esposito Esposito, apizza maker from Okay, I'm just
gonna.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Can I just stop you for a second?
Anytime you say an italian word, you gotta say it with
italianness.
Any names?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
rafael esposito I'll try, I'll do it all right.
And then he created a pizza forqueen margarita of savoy.
The pizza featured tomato red,mozzarella white it's mozzarella
Mozzarella and basil green,representing colors of Italian
(10:37):
flag.
Hence the name Pizza Margheritaoh my god, pizza Margherita,
pizza Margherita, pizzaMargherita, pizza Margherita,
pizza Margherita, pizzaMargherita, pizza Margherita,
pizza Margherita.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Pizza Margherita.
Pizza Margherita, that shitprobably killed that night,
bellissima.
Those people were probablyblown, they're like this is
Italy right here, this isfreedom, that was creative.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
So when Italian immigrants brought pizza to the
US in the late 19th centuries,particularly to cities like New
York, chicago and Philly, andinitially it was popular among
Italian-American communities.
But the pizza gained popularityafter World War II when
soldiers returned from Italycraving for pizza.
(11:18):
In the 1950s pizza chains likeDomino's and Pizza Hut emerged.
They started in the 50s.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Wow, that kind of sad , though.
What do you mean?
So Domino's is out here andit's, you know, spreading
throughout the country,introducing people to pizza for
the first time, and they havetheir first experience of pizza.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Shitty fucking domino's pizza it was probably
really good then it was probablystill shit, yeah, probably do
you remember wendy's burgersback in the day, like growing up
, yeah, and then them now that'sall.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Fast food was peak, though, in the 90s.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
To be honest, it felt like after COVID everything.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
food quality no it was way before COVID that went
down when they started gettingrid of trans fats, but RFK is
going to change all that.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Is he bringing them back?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
He's bringing back polio.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But not trans fats.
That shit will kill you.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
A lot of.
It's a hoax.
It's a hoax, I mean, it's amoney making industry.
Okay, the American innovationled to the creation of regional
pizza styles like New York thincrust and Chicago deep dish.
What does Philly have?
Cheesesteaks.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Cheesesteaks, cheesesteaks and high crime.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I've never had a Chicago deep dish.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It's not a pizza, it's a fucking casserole.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah, you can say that.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, that's what it seems like, and everyone says
that it's like underwhelming.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
There's also Detroit style pizza.
What's that it's like?
Made in a tray.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I that it's like made in a tray.
I do like.
Like a deep dish pizza, thoughsometimes A thicker crust.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
yes, yeah, like a like a pan pizza.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Is that a Detroit style?
Yeah, so.
So I'm from Portland, oregon,right?
So there's no like Portlandstyle pizza or anything.
So I grew up eating like PizzaHut.
Do you guys have heard ofPapa's Pizza?
Papa John's, papa John's, isthat Papa John's?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, papa John's, yeah, papa's, or Papa John's,
maybe john's, papa john's, isthat papa?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
john's, yeah, papa, john's.
Yeah, papa's or papa john.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Maybe it's papa john, they're big on the west coast.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
So right, so I thought.
Until I came to new york Ithought that was it.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
That's sad it's better than that is sad.
There's people in this worldliving that that's sad.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
currently at papa john you can get the Chacaroni
Pizza Extra large, extrapepperoni, extra cheese.
It's our extra biggie, ultrafoldy super pepperoni pizza.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
By the 1980s and the 90s, pizza had spread worldwide,
adapted to local taste, withvariation appearing in nearly
every country.
The pizza industry now is amulti-billion dollar global
market, with both traditionalpizzerias and fast food chain.
Toppings have expanded farbeyond the basic with options
(13:57):
like pineapple, truffle oil oreven dessert pizzas.
I found some interesting pizzatoppings around the world and I
want to see what you guysthinkapan mayo jaga, mayo jaga.
So apparently jaga is potato,so it's a combination of mayo,
potatoes and bacon, so it oftencomes with a creamy and savory
(14:19):
flavor.
I think it's like a potatosalad.
What's this?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
sauce.
I have seen shrimp and mayo asa popular japanese pizza shrimp.
I never tried it because I'm anew yorker and therefore we'll
never eat that shit man, yeah,that sounds gross.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I you know, when I see mayo at huh, it's kind of
like one of like a bacon cheddarranch that kind of gives me
that vibe.
It's good for one slice.
You do a couple of slices ofthat and you're just kind of
getting your stomach's gettingweird, Okay next place,
Australia.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
G'day mate, Maybe some fosters and some kangaroos.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, definitely going there.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Wow, well done.
I've never been able to do theAustralian accent.
I just able to do theAustralian accent.
Just try to make.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Can't do it, still can't do it, I'll crack it out.
Done it recently.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
If you're listening out in Australia, please rate
that.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Leave a comment.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Leave a comment, subscribe, reach out to us.
All right, mate I don't knowSounds like a pirate Sounds like
Johnny Depp in the third videoDick, I'm Captain Jack Sparrow.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
So some pizzerias offer kangaroo meat as topping.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I was gonna say that but I just thought it was like
too on the nose.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
They said that it gives pizza like a gamey and
exotic twist to it.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I guess that's putting like any type of like,
like venison on a pizza right isthat what really they're eating
that?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
and I feel like they probably eat a lot of seafood or
something I don't know, maybe,maybe a dingo got the pizza damn
I, I gotta step back a dingo,ate your baby.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I have lost my fiance , the poor baby.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, but I don't know Would you guys try that.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Would you guys try kangaroo?
I'd try kangaroo in a second.
You gotta try it once, Chris.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I'd try kangaroo just to say I tried it, you gotta
try it once.
Next place is Sweden Meatballs,obviously.
Yep obviously Swedish meatballsEasy.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
But Obviously Swedish meatballs.
But I don't feel that's a weird.
I've seen regular pizza placeswith fucking.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
But it's not just meatballs.
They often pair it with creamysauce like lingonberry jam and
cream potatoes to reflecttraditional Swedish flavor
Sounds like some Viking shit.
So whatever you get in Ikea,they just mix it together and
put it on this topping.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
You got to assemble it yourself.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I just don't like the idea of potatoes on a pizza.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It's a little too high carb for me.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You know what's the weirdest pizza I've ever had
Tuna pizza.
Yeah, they do like a tuna salad.
I know what you're talkingabout.
I'm telling you this one placedoes it tuna salad.
I know what you're talkingabout.
I'm telling you Uh-huh, thisone place does it right.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
If you know you know, Next country is Thailand.
Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Chlamydia Close, but no.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You get that after you eat it.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
It comes with the pizza.
They have Pad Thai pizza, padThai with the pizza.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
They have pad thai pizza.
Pad thai, pad thai, pad thai.
Yeah, that's too much, yeah,that sounds like a lot.
Yeah, the pizza's an extra stepat that point.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
South Korea uses sweet potatoes.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Again with the potatoes, do you?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
like that Sweet potato like fried Depends.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
It's sometimes they mash, Sometimes they use as like
a wedges.
It all depends.
It's actually pretty good.
You would say that, Chris, Somereason Korean like the pizza in
Korea.
Like Korean people like sweetpizza.
So often in Korea's pizza haveketchup on it.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
So I'm looking at a photo of it Guguma pizza.
Yeah, Guguma is sweet potatoes.
It doesn't look bad.
You're just picturing pizzawith a fucking with sweet potato
on it.
There's more stuff to it thanthat.
There's more flavor to it thanthat.
What?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
What does it say?
Mustard?
It's baked, mashed, pureed.
It's like a double, twice-bakedpotato pizza.
Yeah, I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I don't like the look of it.
It'll rise.
I think it'll be better.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
The thought of it is worse than what it actually
looks like.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
If you want to have like Korean pizza, I guess next
time you eat pizza get a ketchup.
No Dip into the ketchup andtake a bite with it.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
no, I will not do that chris, if I see you doing
that, I'm fucking calling you tothe trump's deportation team
I'm reporting you to papa trump.
They're gonna get rid of youbecause you'd be in jail next
country is france.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Croissant pizza escargot no no, no, I I call
bullshit I call bullshit.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Where did?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
you get this list from.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
This is like why it's just too like kangaroo yeah,
it's like stereotype, stereotypepizza, it's too stereotypical I
don't?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
They paired with garlic butter and herbs.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I feel like they would have gone with a ham and
like a brie or a duck it'sdisgusting.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Just look in the chat , I'm putting them all there.
Yeah, man, no this can't bereal.
That looks disgusting.
It looks like a fucking olivethat moves.
It wasn't olive that moved.
No, where to next?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
that moves.
It wasn't all of that moved.
No, number one bullshit guy.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Where to next.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Now I want to hear what's your, you guys', favorite
toppings Caesar Simple.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I'm a simpleton Favorite toppings Pepperoni,
double pepperoni, if you can.
I like the chicken bacon ranchand I like freedom on my pizza.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
In that order Freedom Freedom.
Yeah, freedom Freedom.
It's what you lose when you dipit in the ketchup.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Other than that, I'm pretty simple.
Don't go crazy With thepepperonis.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Do you like the regular original?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
ones or the smaller ones.
You know what I'm talking about.
The little cup ones are allright.
The cup ones that they likecrumble upwards and they get the
little bowl of oil on each one.
Yeah, those are okay Every timeyou eat it it's like a little
bowl of oil.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
It's the best.
We make pizza at home Well, notme, because I can't cook, but
my wife does, and she doespepperoni and banana peppers
Fire.
Then another one is the buffalochicken slice.
Those are good, ooh you walkinto a place you're not sure you
go buffalo chicken slice youcan never go wrong with that?
Now I'm done, and then a whiteslice.
(20:57):
You can't say no to a whiteslice, but I can only do one
white slice.
Pretty impressive.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
What's the difference ?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
between white slice and just regular slice, they do
the ricotta cheese the little ohyeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't say it like that.
I'm never sure if I'm actuallysaying it like that.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I say it like that to be honest those are the three.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Those are the three right there.
Okay, now you can go to fuckingvictor victor, fucking jokes.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Can I be real with you?
Can I be real with y'all?
Be real, real, son be real, bereal, real son he's trying to
kill my father say where did hetry to kill your father, son?
Plain cheese only.
No cheese, only wow seriously,what a vanilla type of guy.
I don't want shit on my pizza.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
That's such a basic, fucking bitch answer like it's
like the straight missionary ofpizza.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Plain cheese pizza.
Don't put shit on it.
It adds extra grease, it addsextra this.
It's just plain cheese pizza.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
When you guys go to a shop, do you guys add, like the
actual garlic and stuff?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, or do you guys just eat the peppers, peppers
garlic, Garlic pepper flake.
A little bit of cheese.
That's it, that's it.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I add it because other people add it.
I get no enjoyment from it.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, I look at it.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I'm like, huh, like, if I'm there and like Rob's
there and he grabs the powderedgarlic and fucking starts
dumping it on it.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I'm just going to take it to and just match.
When you add all those to likeplain regular slice, it enhances
the flavor?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
No, it doesn't.
It gets lost in the sauce.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Bro, pizza is pizza, regardless of what it is Shitty
pizza, it's still good pizza.
Yeah, seriously.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
That's why we like Domino's.
It's fucking shit, sometimes at3 am it's the only place open.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
If you have to put one topping on it, what would
you do?
What would it be?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
If it's like a regular pizza place, I'll do
chicken cutlet like a chopped upchicken cutlet.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Throw that on top extra protein.
But wait, hold up, don't youthink that's more of like a New
York City thing though?
Chicken cutlets, yeah, I feellike, why not?
I don chicken cutlets, yeah, Ifeel like, why not?
I don't know, I'm asking, Idon't know.
I don't remember saying chickencutlets in portland.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
so no, no, no, it's never on the menu.
You have to ask for it and theydon't charge you, they'll
charge you like six bucks extrato do it but yeah, you just have
to ask.
Yeah, so the chicken make arent the pizza places here
usually have like chicken parm,so I just want them to take that
chicken from the chicken parm,chop it up and then fucking put
it on my pizza for some reasonthat costs six dollars yeah, um
(23:32):
jesus, or, depending on where Igo, hot oil hot oil, hot oil
actually it's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I'm with you on that fucking.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
That's the shit you drip out of the pizza.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
No, it comes in a pepper oh.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
What are your thoughts on dessert pizza Nah.
I had to say You've never hadit.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Dessert pizza Like a cheesecake.
I think I had it before, but no, it's like a paste, kind of a
pastry.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
No, it's a pizza crust and it's usually covered
in Nutella, and thenmarshmallows or a fruit.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
No, I'm not a fan of Nutella.
It's too sweet for me.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I'm not a fan of Nutella because I feel like
there's nothing in Nutella.
What do?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
you mean it's just hazelnut.
It's hazelnut.
I don't even think there's anyhazelnut in Nutella.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
No, that's how they get Nutella.
It's hazelnut In America, is iteven hazelnut, isn't Nutella?
Italian Nutella contains 13%hazelnuts All right, what's the
other percentage?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Palm oil and sugar.
I still eat it.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Still 13%.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
That's not bad.
No food dyes.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
No food dyes.
That looks good.
That's like you know what itreminds me of when I see this
picture with the Nutella and thestrawberries, Like a sweet
crepe.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, it's not folded over and it's a bit thicker,
right, right, right.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I mean in this area, though, like where's the best
pizza?
Because I mean I've been to allthe ones in Brooklyn that are
all pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Oh, you got to go to New Haven Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Yeah, I heard that's the capital of the world it's
been created apparently.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I heard that too.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
What's the pizza place up there?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
The original Frank Pepe's, which is alright.
I'm not a huge fan.
Sally's Bar Modern.
A pizza Modern's my favorite.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Is it really taste different than New York City
pizzas or look different?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It looks about the same but it tastes better.
But you have to get it thereand you have to eat it there.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
You have to eat it there, right, and you can't do
it by the slice, or you have toget it.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Well, if you're sitting, down at a restaurant,
just get the pie, because you'renot going to go there, because
all these places have lines outthe door, so if you're gonna sit
there, you're gonna go all theway over there and you're gonna
sit there, you're gonna sit down, you're gonna get a pie, got it
?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I remember when I went to syracuse and they were
like, uh, we were ordering pizzafor the first time and I was
like, yeah, can I get a largepie?
And the lady goes this is apizza place, not a bakery.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
And I go what I go what?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Because apparently they don't call it pies in
central.
New York.
What do they call it?
Pizza?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Pizza, large pizza, large pizza, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, large pizza.
They don't call it a pie.
That's what she had.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
An issue with the fact that you called it a pie.
It's a pizza pie.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah yeah, she didn't know what a pie was.
She's like the over-educatedcollege asshole.
No, these were townies, so theywere uneducated.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
It shows.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
It shows.
No, she called you that.
Yeah, I mean she wasn't wrong.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I'm pretty much uneducated.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You went there with your books and shit in your
worldviews, calling it a pieTalking about pies, fucking nerd
.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Or I learned this when I came to new york was like
the regular slice.
You guys call it regular like,not like cheese pizza.
Yeah, it's cheese, I just callit cheese.
Can I get a cheese?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
you can order an extra cheese right, but no, it's
like a.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
It's like a, but you guys call it a slice or regular.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
So it's a regular one .
What would what else?
Would it be Cheese pizza, butit's your standard, it is.
Everything starts off withcheese.
It is yeah, so it's just aregular slice.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
There's a base.
Our listeners right now arejust going.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
What the fuck, are these guys talking about?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I know you start with the base slice and then you
build up, like when you do a caronline.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
The base model is the cheese pizza, so you just call
it a regular regular car
Speaker 4 (27:29):
I'll take the regular going back to the uh favorite
toppings spinach and I uh,someone in the group, one of you
guys, told me to not to saythis, but pineapple, I told you
not to say that it doesn'tbelong on fucking pizza.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I've had it and welcome to Chris's last episode
Hot pineapple it's gross dude.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
It's a hot fruit, Chris.
I'm with you, buddy.
Why are we heating it up?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, before you eat pineapple, did you just throw it
in the microwave for?
A bit Fucking.
Warm it up for yourself.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I might start now.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Oh God, I have a fruit salad.
Let me just leave it in my carduring the summertime, eat it
later.
I cut a pineapple in slices andI eat it, as God intended, whoa
whoa wait, wait, wait, wait,wait, I got something.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
What about pineapple pie?
Apple pie, you eat apple, hotPineapple pie.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, it's a different mechanism.
It's a pie.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Blueberry pie.
Ha, victor.
He said ha, take your L andkeep it moving when a guy hits
you with a ha when a guy hitsyou with a low-key hi, you might
have lost that one.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
You're done, take your L.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I learned about this pizza when I was up in Syracuse.
Have you guys tried cold pizza.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You mean leftover pizza the next morning?
No, that's the only cold one Ieat.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
So it's like a regular pie Cheese goes on first
and then the sauce goes on top.
People usually buy it and thenyou leave it out cold and you
eat it cold.
It's like a thing in upstate.
I think you can eat all pizzacold.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Like Chinese food.
It's great warm, but it's alsogreat cold which?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
is the weirdest thing .
Speaker 4 (29:14):
All right.
So what do you guys think?
What was the key takeaways?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Rob.
Listen, pizza is a staple.
We grew up with it.
It's just one of those foodswhere you can eat it hot.
You can eat it cold If yourdinner sucks, it's a great plan
B.
And you can eat it cold if yourdinner sucks, it's a great plan
b.
And you can try any differenttypes of things.
I mean the.
The beauty of it is thetoppings.
I've learned what I like for apizza and what I want and what I
(29:38):
look for, so I think it was agood one good one to talk about
victor.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Since most of us grew up in new york, pizza is a very
staple and we've had billionsof pizza options Everyone knows
about you.
Go down the streets from wherewe grew up and there's 30
million pizza places.
We can tell you about all ofthem.
We can tell you about the shadyones, the ones that make you
sick, the ones that don't.
We just try pizza and I'malways curious about how the
(30:07):
rest of the country views pizza,because the rest of the country
has shit pizza like really bad,and so it's always just like
what are you guys actuallyeating technically?
Or like do you just go toDomino's and Papa John's and are
like this is it?
This is what pizza is supposedto be?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So that's true, this is what pizza is supposed to be,
so that's true.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Being that I said that, I want, if you are
listening, to reach into thecomments and tell us what is the
local pizza that you order.
How do you order it?
What are the toppings?
Reach out to us on Twitter,YouTube or wherever the fuck
you're listening to this, andlet us know.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Also, chris has terrible taste in pizza and um,
pineapples are awesome.
Put pineapple on your pizza.
Chris goes to papa's pizza.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
If there's a playpen where you get your pizza, then
you shouldn't be eating there,caesar yeah, man, pizza is a
staple at the house.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
We eat a little bit too much pizza.
But uh the whole, uh the factabout tomatoes in italy, I did
not know that.
And shitty pizza is still goodpizza, no matter what amen.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
It's clear pizza is universally loved.
Whether you're into classic orcrazy combos, there's no wrong
way to top your slice.
We want to thank you forlistening.
If you enjoyed today's show,don't forget to name drop this
podcast to your friends andfamily To stay updated on new
content and join in on thediscussion.
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(31:41):
Twitter at I'm Not Dumb but, and.
Please rate, like and reviewwherever you get your podcasts.
Also, what's your favoritetopping, or what's the one that
you can't stand?
Let us know on social media.
Until next time, stay curious.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Peace.
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