Episode 108: Guest Mark Smith - Fired, Hired, and Thriving — Real Lessons from the Early Career Shitshow
Your first engineering job might suck. It might burn you out, betray your expectations, or end with you getting fired. That’s not a failure—it’s training. In this episode, we sit down with Mark Smith, founder of Bothwell Engineering, to unpack the early career war stories that shape who you become. From getting let go in his first year to building a thriving consultancy in life sciences, Mark shares tactical lessons for engineers trying to lead with integrity, energy, and clarity. Not theory—practical, tactical advice.
Key Topics Covered
• Getting fired in your first job: what it really teaches you
• How to pitch your worst experience as your strongest value
• What makes a real mentor—and how to keep them invested in you
• Why Bothwell Engineering was built to fix broken engineering culture
• How to avoid becoming “just a number” in your career
• The surprising power of honesty in job interviews
• Early career moves that build long-term trust and career leverage
• How co-ops and field experience prepare you for real leadership
• When not to take a full-time offer—and why
• Building a business without burning yourself out
Actionable Steps
• Reframe every failure into a value story—especially in interviews
• Ask the “dumb” questions early—don’t let fear cost you progress
• Get your hands dirty: walk the floor, inspect installs, ask the trades
• Build your micro-resume weekly—track what you learn and share it
• Spend 15 minutes a week expanding your network, no excuses
• Know what “support” looks like—ask for structure if you need it
• Find mentors by implementing their advice, not just listening
• Don’t burn bridges—you’ll see these people again, guaranteed
• Explore co-ops and contractor roles for real-world acceleration
• Challenge clients and companies—your integrity is your brand
Who This Episode Is For
• Engineers in toxic work environments wondering if it’s just them
• Early career ICs with no structure, mentorship, or support
• New grads navigating co-ops, contracts, or first real jobs
• Overlooked engineers trying to find better leadership
• Engineers burned by loyalty to companies that didn’t return it
Why It Matters
Energy, visibility, and performance are what move your career forward—not being “perfect” out of the gate. The early years are where you build your voice, your values, and your ability to lead. This episode is a playbook for turning chaos into clarity—and using every tough lesson to level up faster.
Where to Listen
Spotify
Apple Podcasts
Google Podcasts
Or wherever you get your podcasts
If this episode hit home, send it to someone. The Impactful Engineer grows by word of mouth—just like the best careers do.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Cardiac Cowboys
The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.