232. The Shortcut Trap: Why You’re Sabotaging God’s Best for Your Life

Warren Buffet said, "You can't make a baby in one month by getting 9 women pregnant" but yet we are all tempted by shortcuts all the time. It is one of the greatest temptations we all face. We feel the limits of our time, our energy, and our mortality… and instead of paying the full price, we try to pay the fast price.

In this episode, we go into the root of the issue for us wanting to take shortcuts. We also give practical examples of shortcut temptations we all face. There are some you will be aware of and far more that you won't. This episode is a blind spot revealer to show you where you are robbing yourself blind and falling for the same bait Adam and Eve took. Listen to this episode and become a great price payer to be everything God made you to be.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
The path that God has for you, the destiny he
has before you. It's a massive price, and so if
you're shopping by the price, you will choose poorly. If
you shop for vehicles by the lowest price, you will
get a poor quality vehicle. And if you select for
the destiny of your life by shopping for the lowest price,
you will select for a very poor destiny that you

(00:21):
will end up with regret.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
On that's impossible. Let me tell you what I believe.
What's your weakness. It's not your technique. Don't think you
know you will. The Impossible Life Podcast, I mean you're
sitting on a winning lottery ticket, an idea that is
fully formed, fully understood, that sticks.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
This is the Impossible Life Podcast because Nick and I
are attempting to live impossible lives. What we know is
that nothing is impossible. So instead of using impossible as
an excuse to not try, we'll use the pursuit of
impossible as an accelerant for greatness. If something's never been
done before, that just means it's unexplored. If they tell

(01:10):
you it's too hard, it's just waiting to be simplified.
Impossible as a default label used by uncourageous people unwilling
to take a risk. The real truth is this The
solution to any impossible task starts with this question, if
I had to, what would it take?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Would it take? Welcome to another episode of the Impossible
Life podcast. I'm your co host, Nick Surface, and I'm
looking across as a man who if there's an easy
way and a hard way, he'll take the hard way
twice just to make sure the lesson speaks. That's right, friends,
Garrett unclebock Pool komp veteran who decided that drowning six

(01:50):
times wasn't enough.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
No, I'm sorry, Nick, you're mistaken. There's only two ways
to do things. Oh yeah, what's that the right way?
And again, Oh, I've.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Never heard that before. I have to go ahead and
write that one down. Did you make that up? Gee?

Speaker 1 (02:03):
No, that's a that's literally my bell to or construction
company motto that comes from the seal teams.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I know, dude, I was saying that for the benefit
of the listeners. But I'm glad to see that you're
nice and froggy this morning. I say this morning because uh,
for those of you out there that want to start
a podcast, because it'll be so much fun. Garrett and
I got our started our process at five am on
Sunday morning today to make sure that we get this
releast to y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I tell people all the time then when they want
to start a podcast, I make you should talk to Nick.
Nick Nicol put a lot of the pieces together for you.
You know, you're the reason this podcast exists in the
first place. You know, I wanted to do one, but
I didn't want to do one because I didn't want
to do all the other stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, and you don't do all the other stuff. You
was still winning. Yeah, well done.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's going great. It's going great. But I tell people
all the time they should talk to you. And I
know you're going to tell them a lot of great things,
but the one thing you're going to tell all of
them is you've got to just keep posting over and over.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
And I'm going if you want to.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
We had we had a we were starting from a
good place, like I have, I had somewhat of an audience.
I have the credibility of being an Avy seal. And
we put our first episode out there and you know
what was it like one hundred listens? I think, yeah,
which is great for a lot of people's first episode. Yeah,
but even for us, we weren't like, you know, over
in like yeah, let's keep going, like everyone's gonna love us.

(03:19):
Now we just said, well, I guess we just have
to keep going.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
It's going to take a while, it is, Yeah, and
it does, and yeah, it's I could go in a
long way about that, but that's actually exactly what we're
talking about today. We're talking about I think what is
one of the greatest temptations for all people, regardless of
whether your male or female, and that is the temptation
to take shortcuts. Yeah, it's literally for everybody. We all
have that temptation. That's what I say to people. I'm like, look,

(03:41):
if you want to get it following quickly, if that's
what you're after, go start a YouTube channel, you know,
become like an influencer on Instagram. There's tons of people
that sell hacks of how to make viral videos and
all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Like.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
So that's why I would tell people about podcasting, because
it just takes a lot of consistent effort and growth
and learning to grow a podcast audience. It's not the
kind of thing that you can just kind of go like, oh,
I went viral and blew up like that doesn't happen,
not in podcasts now, not in podcasts. I think the
closest thing I've seen is Sean Ryan has two hundred
and twenty five episodes and he just announced that he

(04:14):
had one billion views on YouTube, which is incredible. Now
he had paid a slightly different price to become a
podcaster since that he went through seal training and also.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Also he also had a bigger YouTube channel when he started, right,
But you get my point. When you're in the CIA
and the Air Seal, you obviously have a few more
connections and a few more stories that make you slightly
more interesting than the calm for sure, Sean Sean did
a great job of using his network and doing the
proper stare stepping of guests. Yeah, continuing to go up

(04:43):
and up, doing better and better storytelling. His media quality
it's made out every single time.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
So it's amazing. Anyways, we could go on and on
about that, but the point for it for everybody out
there is we all have these temptations for shortcuts. We're
going to get into what that temptation boils down to
and really show the The point of this episode is
that highlight a lot of areas where you me, we're
all probably taking shortcuts, and we need to be aware
of them because what these shortcuts will do is they'll
kill your fruitfulness and they'll keep you from God's playing

(05:10):
for you, because God's plan is not one of shortcuts.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Let's talk about what a shortcut is for just a second. Okay, Well,
let me talk about what it isn't. Okay, there's a
very there's a common saying from the seal teams. It's
very misunderstood, and that's if you're not cheating, you're not trying, okay,
And so a lot of people think, like what is that?
Just are the Seals just a bunch of like, you know,

(05:34):
void of ethics people, No, prior to some conception, No,
we're not void of ethics.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
That's not what it's about. The point of.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
If you're not cheating, you're not trying, is that there's
always these rules and paths that people feel like you
have to go down to do something. And the whole
point of that saying, if you're not cheating, you're not trying,
is like be willing to think outside the box, right right.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
That doesn't mean.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Like you sabotage your your care or well, I'm just
going to tell my boss I said I did it
even though I didn't do it, because you know, because I'm.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Trying, you're not cheating. You're not trying exactly right.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
The point is if you're not trying to think outside
the box, if you're not looking at very difficult problems
with the thought process of if I had to what
would it take right, If you're not bringing that thought
process to it, then you're not actually trying. That's what
that statement means. And so and I'm I'm one hundred
thousand percent in support of that. You should always be
looking at what your opportunities are, what your business is,

(06:31):
what the missions in front of you are, and saying like,
are we doing this the dumb way? Right there? Is
there actually a better answer look for those things? But
that's not what a shortcut is.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
No, for sure. Well, and one of the places where
we see if you're not cheating, you're not trying taking
the wrong way is in the health and fitness industry. Yeah,
so take a wild guess, ge, what do you think
the valuation is of just health and fitness clubs in America? Oh? Gosh,
value of health and fitness, just health and fitness clubs.
So we're just talking about you know, well not twenty
four our fitness, but uh yeah, well all those places, those.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Lifetimes as those yeah okay, total evaluation of all of
those gems, yeah, seventy five billion.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Okay, that's that's a you're the economic impact is weighted
around twenty two point four billion annually. So I probably
asked you the question wrong. Okay, So help, that's just
the clubs that that generate twenty two point four billion
dollars annually in the US alone. Wellness and fitness products
then generate an additional twenty eight and a half billion
in the year twenty twenty three. Okay, So this is

(07:32):
keep in mind, that's not that I asked you the
wrong question. I said what are they worth? You're probably
it's probably higher than what you said based on that revenue.
But the so that tells you that those are making
fifty billion dollars a year in the US is spent
on health and fitness. And what was the stat that
you shared with me that you heard Chris Willis share
recently g about about the average body fat percentage of
a male and female in America.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
This is a disgust like literally disgusting statistic. The average
American is now aw fatter than the average pig. The
average pig is between fifteen and twenty five percent body fat.
The average male body fat is now over twenty eight percent,
and the average female body fat is now over forty percent.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
So capture that, We're gonna go ahead and have to
cut ourselves short because I think we could go on
a long diatribe about that. But this is something that
like it's not like we don't know if this is
not a blind spot of like, man, I just didn't
know that being fat was unhealthy or I couldn't see
myself getting fatter, Like you can lie to yourself to
there some people who believe that, but if you listen
to this podcast, that's right now you can lie to

(08:37):
yourself to a certain degree. But think about this. So
the health of fitness industry, and by the way, all
projections are that the health and fitness industry is going
to continue to grow and boost, not getting smaller, right,
So it's growing. AKA, people are spending more money to
try and buy whatever they think is going to get
them healthy, and we're getting in worse shape. So you
tell me where the disconnect is there, and I'm going
to go ahead and say that I think it's because

(08:57):
a lot of people are looking for shortcuts rather than
actually changing their lifestyle and changing the way they think
about health and fitness. And yeah, it's the disconnection between
diet and lifestyle, right exactly. So I'll pay you. I'll
pay you, you know, a thousand dollars if you can
show me how to lose this in thirty days. But
what I won't do is just commit to eating healthy
for a lifetime.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
There's a lot of people that their diet approach is
the same as like just talking about the pigs here
for a second, talking about a pig and a pig
style trying to stay clean, right, right, you're standing up
on a pedestal and you've done like a million delicate
procedures to try and like this is one. This is
a different analogy. But I remember trying to do like

(09:34):
over the beach exercises, right, and you come out wet, yeah, okay,
and then you like, as you come over the beach,
you get covered in sand, and then we would do
these change out drills because this is this is like
a seal insert platform. Right, we'll swim in over the beach,
change from like wet clothes into dry clothes, and then
you know, keep carrying on with our mission. And so

(09:54):
you're doing this, you as a surfer, you understand something.
Trying to change out of a wet wet suit into
dry clothes. Now do it at night, quietly, like half
laying down, because you can't like be up making a
big profile, and you're still in like what is called
the hinterland, the transition from like the beach to like
normal ground. So they're still sand on the ground. So

(10:15):
I put my little tarb down. I'm like laying on
this thing, trying to not get sand on the tarp,
trying to not get a bunch of sand all over me.
So I could just you know, go crazy and just
roll around on the sand, change into my dry clothes
and be miserable. But you're trying to make this switch
into clean clothes and not get covered in sand. I'm
using this as an example of like this is what
a lot of people's diet and a terrible lifestyle looks like.

(10:38):
It's this extremely elaborate procedure which is or like in
my house trying to h with my with my girls
trying to keep like a clean shirt with covered in
when my when my middle is hands are always dirty,
when Grace is always using markers and glitter and whatever. Again,

(10:59):
an example of people trying to keep a diet that's
productive in a lifestyle surrounded by things taking you in
the wrong direction. Right, Yeah, exactly right. And so if
you're sitting out there and you're in great shape and
you're going.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Like, oh yeah, all these people, buckle up because I
promise you there's places where you're taking shortcuts. If you're
the person that you're like, yeah, I probably do follow
that fat percentage higher or wherever you may be, Like, understand,
you need to you need to stop thinking like how
quickly can I fix this and instead think of like
how do I make a change in my thinking so
that for the rest of my life I can live

(11:32):
this way and be healthy. It's a very big shift,
and we see this.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
That's exactly what the diet versus lifestyle shift is supposed
to be like. Instead of saying like, you know what
does my diet cheat say? This is a a lot
of people have. There's coaches who teach this and really
just looking at every decision in your life and saying
what would a fit person do?

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Right?

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Right?

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, you know it's not like oh I got to
force myself to go get steps like no, just actually
go like become someone who enjoys walking right.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Well.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, And there's a lot of practical ways that we
could go into that, But but I think that that,
to me is a really easy to understand area where
we go. Man, Okay, we're trying to w're clearly that
the money is being spent, Clearly the desire is there,
but the process is wrong, and so as a result,
we are getting in worse shape. And we see this
over and over and over again where people want to
have something but they don't want to do what it

(12:25):
takes to get there, and we don't always realize it.
I mean, you learned me to who's our Don what's
his name, Don Shipley? Don Shipley. You learned me to
Don Shipley, who has a YouTube channel where he goes
like calls to.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
The former master chief Navy seal who when he got
out of the Navy, he made it his job to
call out all the pretenders, the phonies.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah, because you said there's more people that claim.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
To be navy Don has said there's around twenty thousand
people who claim to be Navy Seals, where in reality
there's about five thousand living and.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Dead, which is so the video I've watched them, it's amazing.
He goes around with these guys like at bars that
have like trident tattoos and have all the stories, and
he just starts calling them out like very very bluntly,
and it's it was it called stolen valor? Is that? Yeah,
it's stolen valor and Navy Seal thing. That's just a
military right, stolen valor. But it's amazing to me that

(13:19):
but that there's guys like I think personally, I'd be
so embarrassed if I ever made any claim, like I'm
not any tougher because I know you as well as
I do. Like it's just like I don't I don't
get to claim any kind of like cool guys stuff.
I'm just your friend, and I know a lot more
about the Seals than other people. But guess what, I'm
no more in Navy Seal than anybody else who's never
been on the grinder, Like I just know more, and
I think would be embarrassing to walk around and be like,

(13:41):
oh yeah, let me tell you how it was in
the teams. Like, dude, I don't know what it was
like in the you know what I mean. But this is,
this is what these guys are doing. He calls them out.
So maybe we sit there and go, oh man, that's crazy.
But once again, we're all in that boat, and where
does it start. G Unfortunately, we've inherited a pattern of
shortcuts that we got. It's it's our symol. It is
literally like Adam and Eve. You know, it's it's amazing

(14:03):
to me because God said, don't eat at the fruit
of the garden, because when you do, surely you'll die.
Now we know that they ate of the garden and
they didn't die instantly. What's so? Is so right? Yeah, exactly,
so what did die? It was their ability to know
God truly in spirit at that point they became separated
from him. And then because it's interesting because he says
to them later they.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Could you know, they could walk with him previously, they
couldn't after that.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Right, because he even says, we better put a flaming
sword around the garden because otherwise they can go eat
from that tree of life and live forever. It's like, wait,
a minute, and that's always that's really been confounding to me.
But when you realize that it was spirit that died,
that's when it starts to make a lot more sense.
And then, of course then he cuts off the tree
of life. And then now we have this great thing
called time, and we're all going to die and we

(14:46):
know it. And that limitation, the greatest limitation that we've
never figured out is humanity of time is the temptation
for us to always cut That's what we're trying to do.
We're trying to fast forward through time so that we
can get something that we want. And the with that
is that if you're the person that you don't want
the process. You want the vision, but you don't want
the price. You want the end result, but you don't

(15:07):
want to travel the road to get there, and so
you're always going like, hey, how can I get there
as fast? Boss?

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Instagram is full of your you know, we'll make you
an author in thirty days, We'll make you a coach
in thirty days. Here's how to make a million dollars
in six months. Do this and you can quit your
job in forty days. That stuff is all so foolish,
right because you don't accomplish the you know you maybe
even if you did, say you accomplish a specific task,

(15:35):
everything lines up for you, or you get lucky, or
you do all of the different pieces. You haven't changed
that much in that amount of time, and you've got
to zoom out and look at where you're really going.
I was talking to Nick and as we were setting
up this podcast, like, man, really, what this podcast is
about is we want to help people choose the right path. Yeah,
for sure, right, like of your life. You know, coaching,

(15:58):
which Nick and I both do. Some of coaching is
like hey, I'll run next to you, right, I'll critique
your form along the way. But so much of this
podcast as we just want to make sure you, like
the best thing I can do for you. I can't
I can't teach you to dodge bullets. I can't necessarily
make you run faster, but I can say, like, go
down this road and just go as hard as you can, right,
And so much of I feel zoom out. A lot

(16:19):
of what we're talking about, you know, fake versus authentic.
It's people taking the short term path, like oh well,
this seems like it would be really great in the
short term but authenticity and really choosing the real in
the long term is the only one that produces any
actual fruit.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, and because people forget that the purpose of process
is to prepare you so that when you get to
the vision, you can sustain it. Because there's a great
problem that says an inheritance game too early is a curse. Yeah, right,
and this was an interesting strategy. Seventy percent of lottery
winners go broke within three to five years. That's terrible. Like,

(16:55):
it's not like it happens eventually. Three to five years
means like I had twelve Lamborghinis because that's fun. I
wanted to have a different color for you know, every
way I felt. It's it's a wild stat But what
does that tell you, because what happens whenever you get
lottery you didn't because like, if you've had to work
really really hard to make millions of dollars and somebody
goes like, oh, hey, let's just splash out, you're not

(17:16):
thinking like they become someone different, right, I, Oh, that
would be fun. No, Actually, I know what I had
to do to get this.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
It's a whole nother thing. When someone who can't spell
financial management, you know, receives one hundred million dollars.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah one, Yeah, exactly right. I mean the great example
of this is my kids. They are they want to
spend my money every which way they can and their kids,
and it's sweet and I get it, but that's because
they've not had to pay the price to actually understand
what it takes to earn the money in the first place.
And so understand that that's all of us. Man. We
all want the vision and not the price. The lottery
winners is an extreme example of what happens when you

(17:48):
forego the process. Understand this, if you're in a difficult time,
if you're in a place where things aren't making sense,
if you're doing the right things and you're not seeing
the results, if you feel like you've been at it
for so long and you're starting to ask the quest,
and how much longer you are right where God wants
you to be, and I will share it. I will
share this for us as a podcast. Garrett and I
have great plans and dreams for this podcast, not because

(18:08):
we want to be faces, but because we want to
make an impact on the earth. We firmly believe that
God is doing something in this country and in this
world in men's hearts. You can see it on people
who don't know God, and you can see it heavily
in people who know God. God is putting in men
the desire to rise up and be strong and be
who He's made them to be again. And we believe
that we're here to help in We get that we
get to play a part. Get we continually make choices

(18:29):
that go in that direction versus going maybe some potential
short term successful direction. Right, exactly right. And I had
this part like, you know, I take everything that we
do to God in prayer. Man, I'm constantly praying over
everything I do, whether it's my family or any any
person that God's in trusting with. And I remember I
had this this God spoke to me so clearly that
I was in the saun of praying where I seem
to have great times of prayer, and God brought the

(18:51):
scripture to my mind. He said, the King's heart is
in the hand of the Lord, and he turns it
wherever he will. Because I was praying for growth, for
supernatural growth of the podcast. And you may go like, well,
that's a weird scripture to hear, but what does that mean?
It means that if God wanted to turn something in
our favors, that you and I could instantly become you
know Joe Rogan's success. He's God. He could do it,
but guess what he hasn't. So what that means is
that you and I are right where we're supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Well, just stand a. We need to keep going through
our process right to continue to grow. We need to
get better.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
And I say that because I want that to be
an encouragient for anybody. Whatever your man I would really
like to see this or I really think this is
what I'm supposed to do. Is wherever you're at, you're
there for a reason because you are. What you don't
know is that you're becoming the kind of person that
whenever this dream in your heart or this vision that
God's given you comes to fruition, you'll be the type
of person that can actually sustain it and fulfill it
the way that God intended.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
This was something that we'll come back to this here
in a minute, but this is something that I kind
of went through. You and I have talked about this
and something that I went through and really my life
and social media because you talk to me back in
the beginning when I didn't like social media, but not
even outside of that thought of me just being frustrated
at what social media was. Of course, like any like

(20:00):
any person who wants to be a leader and wants
to be successful, like I do, I would like people
to listen to me. But what I cared more for
was the way that I've put it is spend your
time developing a message, not developing an audience. Because that's
what most people in social media or in the world
of credibility try to do, is they just try to

(20:21):
spend all their time developed. How do I get more
people to listen to me. The way to do that
is not better marketing. The way you get more people
to listen to to you is that you have a
better message. And what that actually forces you to do
is continue to grow and develop the right way. It's like,
you may think your message is good, but no one's
listening to you. Well, if you have the right heart
and attitude about that, you'll say, you know what, maybe

(20:42):
my message isn't as good as I thought it was.
Let me continue to work on this. Let me make
it better and better, until your message becomes so good
that it's undeniable that you would have an audience. That's
the right way to be. Otherwise you're going to end
up pursuing the wrong things and you won't develop the
fruit you're supposed to.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
That's so good. Gee. I mean, you said something once
that I've repeated on this podcast, and it's worth repeating again.
You said, the things that are going to take you
off track is going to be you're a lot more
likely to get distracted by a tailwind, like, oh, we
could just go faster in a different direction, right, rather
than buy a disaster. And I remember when I heard that,
I was like, man, that's such a that's so true.
It's like you can either blow everything, Like you don't
have to have everything blow up. Somebody can just be like, oh,
you know, you can do this so much faster if

(21:20):
you just went this way.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
And yeah, no, I've seen many men back on the
journey after ten years of one of those yeah tailwinds.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Man. So we talked about the pattern that we inherited
from Adam and Eve, and we talked about how you
need to pay the price as part of the process. Well,
you pointed this out, and I thought it was so true.
People are often asking the wrong question when it comes
to price paying. And here's the common question. And I'm
putting my hand up because I've asked this question a lot.
It's price led. It's like, hey, what's the right slash?

(21:49):
What's the lowest price I could get this for?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
It's you know, if you shop that way, right, if
you shop that way with your health right, what's the
cheapest vitamins I could get, Well, you'll find them. If
you shop that way with your cars, right, what's the
cheapest car I could get? Okay, you'll you'll find it,
but it may not be exactly what you want. And
especially with the purpose of your life and the path

(22:14):
that you walk, if you shop by the price man,
what's how hard is that one really going to be?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Right?

Speaker 1 (22:22):
If you shop by that, you will end up making
poor selections. Now, I am a one percent firm believer
of Warren Buffett's number one rule of money don't waste money.
Don't waste money does not mean don't spend money right.
Don't waste time does not mean don't spend time. I
means spend it appropriately, right. And I'm also saying you

(22:44):
should you should not overpay, right. I don't want anybody
to overpay for their purpose. But I can also tell
you that your purpose is way more expensive than you
thought it was going to be the path that God
has for you, the destiny he has before you. It's
a massive price. And so if you're shopping by the price,
you will choose poorly. If you shop for vehicles by
the lowest price, you will get a poor quality vehicle.

(23:06):
And if you select for the destiny of your life
by shopping for the lowest price, you will select for
a very poor destiny that you will end up with
regret on. And so really the thought process behind all
of this is, let's ask the right question about the
journey that we're supposed to be on. Because a lot
of people shop this way in their life. They shop
price lad and you need to shop for your life.

(23:28):
Values lead, quality lead, What is the fruit that I
want to have most? And then say I'm willing to
pay whatever the price. Yeah, and that was the question
you said. The right question to ask is how do
I chase the right things? Because when you select the
right things, you don't get to choose the price that
comes with it, Like, oh, you want to have a
great marriage, you want to fall after God, like you
don't get to determine the price for those things, like

(23:49):
God has set certain things up that it's like these
are good and holy, and you will do things a
certain way. The only way that you can choose a
good path is that you like choose a path that
you know you'll stay on. Is if you'll choose a
path that you can say, I'm willing to pay I
don't even know if I can actually do this, but
I would give all that I have for this and
be willing to pay any price to accomplish this. You

(24:10):
have to choose a path that you can feel that
way about. Otherwise you're going to choose a path where
you're estimating two things that you can't fully estimate and
hoping you're right about both of them. And that would
be you're trying to estimate what is the cost of
this path, like how hard is the path going to be?
And then how tough and capable am I. You can't

(24:32):
estimate either of those things with certainty, so you're hoping
that you've got two estimates right. When you try to
choose a path, what's the biggest hard that I'm willing
to go through based upon my estimate of how hard
all work for a thing that I wouldn't give everything for,
but I might give something for. It's a bad math
like if you're trying to estimate something, that's a bad
math equation. Now a good equation is this is the

(24:55):
path that I would pay every price for. I would
give all that I have to walk down this path,
God willing, I hope I'm gonna have enough.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, what you just said, man, I think that that's
the most common way of thinking, is that we estimate
how tough we are, we estimate how price like the price,
and we just assume we're right on both, and when
it blows up, we're.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Like man, I speak of what happens is if you
go down that path as soon as it's harder than
you thought.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, quit, that's exactly right as well.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
No, I didn't think it would be this bad, or
oh maybe I'm not as good at this as I
thought I would be, And they turn into short circuiting
your growth for me choosing a path where it said
I would do whatever it takes for this every time
I've fallen short at turned into my growth.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Right. Well, And I love that you said that, but
I also think you're being so rational in your garret,
Uncle bock Way, because no, I'm being serious because people
that then quit on those things, they don't say like, oh,
I guess I wasn't as tough as I thought, or
I guess it was hard, and I thought. What they
say is like, oh, that's ridiculous, Like that's I just
decided that. Actually, you know, really, if I do that,
then I would have to give up time with my kids,

(25:58):
or I would they come up with some reason and
of why they're still right about making their choice to quit,
and that's all of us, Like you don't when I
was going to quit the at the hundred miler, I
wasn't sitting there saying like, you know what, I'm just
too weak and actually I'm in a bad moment and
I'm pouting. Yeah, Like that would have been me being
really rational. What I said was I don't care about
the hundred miler. And you want to know why that worked,
because a big part of that was true, Like I

(26:19):
don't list it on my list of accomplishments in life,
like I'm proud that we did that, and I actually
think it's a great thing. But some people like if
they finished one hundred miler they would put it in
their bio on their Instagram. And if that's you, I'm
not knocking you. I just personally don't value that what
we did in like my great things that I've accomplished
in my life.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
You know what you would like to put in your bio?
What's that man who does what he says.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
One hundred percent? Yeah, and I put a lot more
value on that, Like and you know who tells me
the most of what if I do what I say
is my wife? Yeah, because she sees me all the time.
I'm not going to put that in my bio, Like
my wife trusts.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Me one hundred percent to put that in your bio.
It's right if you don't finish the hundred miler, right, But.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
But you understand, I'm I'm sharing my own and I
think that's all of us. I'm not like once again,
I'm up thrown stones from my glass house. But I
think we don't go like, oh, I'm not good enough
or I'm gonna go ahead and break my word. We
come up with a reason in the moment that that
we then repeat to ourselves until we believe it enough
that we can move on without learning the lesson and
so we're going to get into the reason I'm saying that,

(27:15):
and if you feel like we're being harsh, I'm okay
with that. We're going to highlight some shortcuts that we
all take where we choose the fake over the authentic
and we have these authentic god given desires that we
do it phil you do it because you're shopping by
the price, and that's exactly as you're shopping by the price.
And what it all boils down to is we want
certainty over trust that like it when it comes down

(27:36):
to it, we have this transactional relationship with these with
I mean in the Bible, they'd be false gods, is
what they would be like when you look at the
false gods. Boo was was a false god of weather,
and it was like if we will cut ourselves and
offer this much, then we'll get the rain, which means
we'll get our crops great. And then there was like
Astra who was like the goddess of sex, I think,

(27:57):
and it was like if we do certain things, then
we'll have fertility because that was views as a sign
of prosperity. And so it was this transactional relationship of
like I will do this in order to get that,
and what did it give you? It gave you certainty
because you also had this poll, like you pointed out,
you had this actual thing you could touch and feel
with your hand. And then you have this great and
amazing God who says, hey, follow after me, walk with
me in all your ways, seek me, and I'm gonna

(28:17):
bless you everywhere you go. Well yeah, but how do
I know, Well, you're gonna take my word at it.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Well wait, but but I'm gonna be with you wall
and if you if you bail out for that certainty
you you were not, you're not gonna actually get what
you want, right, And that again that comes back to
the shopping by the price. I think that's that's people
who struggle with mindset mastering, right, And I'm just being
like our financial price. It's two hundred dollars a month,
which is more than many coaching programs out there, but
also that it's hard, right, Like the cell is. If

(28:46):
you'll do, if you'll turn if you'll go through all
the content and turn up on all these calls for
the next year, you'll think differently.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Right.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Most of the programs out there are like oh, thir
thirty day free program, will you know, give you the
mindset of success?

Speaker 2 (28:57):
No, you won't, right, you won't. That's that's you.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
You're just your You like the price of free in
thirty days, but you're not going to get that right
right versus you know what if you actually go through
mindset mastery, I promise you'll think differently. Read some of
our testimonials, but this again, this is where people shop
by the price, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
That's actually do the work. How do we know? Well,
guess what Every work we gave to you is stuff
that we've done.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
This was Nick and I put it together and said, man,
what's the what's the fastest we could We think we
could actually get someone there a year a Right, we
can get you there in a year, right, someone telling
you they can change your mindset in thirty days, Maybe
they can make you feel better in thirty days you
can go to a conference and get motivated. For sure,
for me to teach you to like install a new

(29:41):
operating system in your brain. That's not thirty days.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
No for sure? All right, So let's get to some
of these these fake verst authentic and we'll talk about
the shortcut because we all do these some of these
are obvious. And some of these, I will tell you
are things that you're probably not even aware of, but
that are there for all of us. So the most
obvious one, man, is porn for intimacy. Yeah, we have
a god given desire for intimacy like that we would
need each other. If you're married and you have a

(30:04):
good act of sex life with your spouse, you know,
the deep intimacy that you share with your spouse expressed
through sex. It's incredible. And what porn will do, as
we all know, it'll give you like a semblance of that.
You'll get the same physiological reaction. But man, you just
feel hollow. And so what happens, Well, you know this
time I looked at this, and now I just need

(30:25):
to look at a little bit more. And actually, you
know I used to like this, but now I just
need to be a little bit more extreme. And that's
how you end up with these people. I mean, when
we had Josh Brumon, that was the story of the
porn industry, is like, hey, just do this a little bit. Oh,
and now we're gonna have you do that a little bit,
and before you know it, you're seventeen miles down the road.
Doing disgusting things that you swore you'd never do. And
it all started because you were trying to. In the

(30:47):
case of people who are watching it, you're just trying
to fulfill something that you have a need for.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
And regardless of what your relationship with your spouse is like,
if you go down the road of porn, some of
it is shopping by the price, and the price being
you know what, It's really easy to look at porn
on your phone, for sure. It's really easy to do
that right, right, It's exactly when you want, and it
is the lowest bar to what is on the other

(31:12):
side of that for people. And I'll beat around the
bush there as much as I can on saying what
that is. If you go down that road, you're you're
choosing the cheapest price. Even if you have a great
relationship with your spouse, it's still a lot more effort
than looking at porn. Right, And so this comes back
to you, well, what's the easiest way for me to

(31:32):
get what I want? If you navigate that way, you
will end up in all the wrong places. Take go
buy the cheapest cruise you can find on the internet. Right,
go take the budget vacation. See if it looks like
the pictures when you get there.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, I mean, because remember the correct question ask is
how do I choose the right things? If I'm just
gonna be blunt, If you just want to get off, dude,
you can go to any bar in America and if
you get drunk enough with somebody else who's drunk enough,
you can price solve that. Or like you said, you
can just go you can just watch porn, because that's
that's all you want. If you can learn how to
choose the right thing, which is I want to have
an intimate, deep, fulfilling relationship. Oh buddy, you selected the

(32:07):
right thing. But guess what the price is a lot harder.
It means that, like as my wife once said to me,
she was quoting one of our pastors, is making love
starts in the morning. Oh so you mean I gotta
wake up and I'm loving my wife the second we
wake up, when there's no chance of anything like that. Yeah,
you mean, I'm gonna serve her all day, one hundred percent.
I'm gonna make sure that she has what she needs
and that I'm attentive and I care and I have
and what she values is what I value. Yes, I'm

(32:27):
going to do that. I'm going to be disciplined and
not choose the stuff that I want or live my
life based on my own preferences. Yes, correct, Why because
I've chosen the right thing. I want to have a
great marriage. And ge here I am twenty plus years in.
It hasn't always been great, but I can tell you
it is so satisfying. I don't regret any price I've failed.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
And you've got to come back and look at it, right, Okay,
we're not going to shop by price. What's the thing
that's worth the most? Yes, what do I really want?
And then be willing to pay that price?

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah? So good? Another place where we do it. So
I put this as X over ah. And what I
mean by that is we serve God. And this is
one of my favorite scriptures. It's probably three five and six,
which is trust in a lower with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding and all your ways.
Acknowledge Him and He'll direct your paths. And that that
first part of Lena on your own understanding is where

(33:18):
we all take that shortcut, because isn't it so much
easier to just be like, yeah, well, this is why
God did that, and actually God lives outside of time,
and so like, actually, if you just kind of say
this forgiveness prayer, then everything will be good. And then
what happens. You'll go to heaven, you'll have a mansion,
you're gonna be able to live there, and then there's
gonna be seven years of this. And because I know everything, right,
because now I've got explanation for everything. Whereas to say,

(33:39):
like I don't know, but I know the one who does,
that's hard, Like, hey, so how's this gonna work out?
I have no idea? Well why are you? Why are
you tied him? Why are you living your life this
sacrificial way? Because that's what God said, and I trust him.
I don't know about that. Man, it'd be a lot
easier if you could just be like, hey, you're putting
jewels in your crown and like you know, you're you're
storing up treasure in heaven, and so that's you know,
I have an exact certainty. I know how the transaction works.

(34:02):
And so to get to this place where you can say,
you know what, I don't know, but I'm going to
be obedient anyways, is truly living in a life of
awe it requires reverence, it requires what we call fear
of the Lord. And it's a lot easier to be
able to go in and give your exact four reasons
and have everything buttoned up so that you can feel
safe and secure. And we all do this.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
It's it's the desire for certain like, hey, I want
to fully understand and know God out of the out
of the what you're seeking, Well, if I know it all,
then I can know what's going to happen. Yeah, right,
And what really awe of God is that God's a
great God. God is powerful and control of all. He's sovereign,
and he loves me and the rest is up to him.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah. Yeah, and that's faith. Yeah, that's true faith. And
while we're on that, another shortcut that we take is
a lot of us will take preaching rather than actually
knowing God for sure, or like, if you're listening to
this podcast and instead of reading the Bible, please stop
listening to us and go read your Bible. Like I
we're here to drive you come back, Yeah, then come back.
We're here to but honestly we're here to drop, like

(35:03):
we want people to know God. The best thing we
could ever do. When Garrett say, we can get you
running hard and fast down the right path. The right
path is that you would seek God with all your heart. Yeah,
if we could, if I could have my life be
like that was a guy that made other people want
to know the God he did, that would be the
greatest epitaph I think I could ever have on my
funeral or at my headstone, I would say, But so
often what we have is we want to have. I

(35:24):
want to watch a reel about some Christian guy. I
want to listen to this preacher because man, I really
like him. I want to read this book. All those
things are good. But that's like saying I'm just going
to live a life of I'm just going to eat supplements.
I'm not haveing protein drinks and creatine all the time.
And man, I don't ever want to have like breakfast, lunch,
or dinner or eat a healthy meal. I just want
to have the supplements. You're missing out because the process
of getting to know God, have pressed into his presence

(35:46):
requires that you believe that He is and that he's
a rewarder of those who diligently seek him, Like it
says in Scripture, it's kind of the to me, like
the it's the beginning.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
It's not like you're wrong. If you just want to
listen to sermons, you're just early correct.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Right.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
This is like when I take people to the range
for the first time, Like, if you've never shot a
pistol before, I'll get you to hit a bullseye at
twenty five yards with a pistol. You'll feel really good
about it. You can't do it without me there, right right,
I can. I can help you accomplish it. But when
you come back to the range next week by yourself
and I'm not there with you, you're like, what happened?

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Right?

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Like I can't do that anymore. And so there's a
process that we've all got to go through of growth
and maturity. And if you're just interested in the in
the sermons, that just means you haven't really taken that
next step of like, man, I need to begin to
understand these things for myself, because the finishing the path
of that pistol journey is you'll you really know how

(36:39):
to shoot pistol when you can teach people how to
shoot pistol, not when you can you've done it once,
not when you can do it a little bit by yourself.
Not when you're starting to really understand it, but when
you're you understand it so well that you can share
it with other people. And if you are at where
a lot of people are at and their Christian journey
is like I listened to this message, you should listen
to it too. Yeah, And that's that's not a tear.

(37:00):
But it's not the best thing either, correct, Right. The
best thing is that you would listen to a message
and say, man, I love that. I'm gonna go look,
I'm gonna read that for myself. And when you begin
to receive the word, when you read the Word and
you let the Lord speak to you, that's where you
begin to have a message yourself that's out of your
own testimony and out of your own life, like, this
is what God has done in me, this is the
way that God's changed me, This is what I've heard

(37:22):
from the Lord. And you can share with people in
a very different way. Yeah, because what I mean it's easy.
Pastors are really good at speaking and they can.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Keep it as a skill set as a skill set,
and so like you have this, you're never go what
do people say that don't want to read the Bible?
It doesn't make sense to me, I don't understand it. Well,
that's part of the process of you getting to know God.
Is that from a place of faith and believing that
it's God's word, you seek him.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
The way he's the same as people who don't exercise
are like, well, I don't I don't go to the gym,
so I don't know what to do. Right, Well, how
often you go to the gym? I don't just start
at that point anything you do. I don't like to read.
I'm not good at reading. How often do you read?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
I don't. Okay, so so so I hope you hear that.
And it's it's like once again, it's like, man, well
I like this, pastor, this makes sense to me. This
speaks to me a lot more. These are all good
reasons in the moment. But that's not that is not
the process that your call to. It's not the authenticity
of where you've experienced the presence of God because you've
sought him so actively that you truly have a relationship

(38:20):
with God. We've talked about this before, g I would
hope and I've had some things happen recently where you
kind of get not brought to your knees but you
get punched in the face out of the blue. And
what happens whenever you get punched in the face out
of the blue is you find out what you really believe.
And what I never have done is been like, oh,
it's preparation, right. I never go like, oh, man, think
this pastor said this thing one time that I'm really

(38:41):
going to lean on what I realize, right, No, I
never do. What I come back to is I go, Man,
I've spent some time in the presence of God, and
I don't understand this, but I know that God's good,
and it's the certainty of who he is, not because
of any one scripture I read, or because of something
I heard on the Internet or on a great message,
but because I've truly is the presence of God and

(39:01):
sat with him and read his word and had God
teach me and show me who he is. That's when
you start to go, like, man, my faith. I don't
want to say it's unshakeable, because I feel, you know,
almost a little bit like I don't want to be
tested now, But you know what I mean, Like you,
it's like you can't deny it. There's things that I've
done and seen and experienced and known that I can't.
I could never say that was unreal. I would have
to say I've chosen not to go that way anymore, right,

(39:22):
and I'm not going to do that next thing up
and We're going to keep going through these is career
for identity. Now here's an interesting one. I think what
a lot of people are drawn to about you, g
is you have an uncommon identity. I always tell people, like,
there's certain things you shouldn't you should try and emulate
about Garrett, there's other things that you shouldn't. You were
born into a certain way, like God's God's wired you

(39:44):
to be the type of person that you're in command,
like you push back on things and you if anyone
listens to your story, they know that you had a
very small circle of people that poured into you, and
you had the where withal, which is this is where
it's really unique at a young age to be able
to discern between who you should listen to and who
you shouldn't. And you held very strongly to the people
that you should which was your unbelievable parents, your uncle

(40:06):
Keith at that time who is now Pastor Keith, and
a few other people that poured into you. That's not common.
What most people are experiencing is they get to this
point in their life where they've been doing all these things,
they've been chasing everything, and they go, I don't know
who I am because it's like in high school, you know,
I was like the funny guy. In college, I was
the party guy. Then I was like, you know, career,
hard charger. Then I was fat, so I became fitness guy,

(40:27):
and now I'm still feeling empty. I don't know who
I am. Well, that's because you're trying to chase things
that you do, like your career, and say that's who
you are. Well, the problem is what if you get
fired or you know what if you start sucking at that?
Does that mean that you don't have a sense of
identity For a lot of people, yes, it does.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Everybody wants a sense of identity, right, You want to know.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Who you are.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
The hard part it's like it's like building a foundation
for a home. Right, you and I could go out
in the woods and like, you know, cut down some
trees and throw them on the ground real quick, and
we can stand up a little overnight. Now, if you
want to build a strong home, like something that's going
to last for one hundred or hundreds of years. The
level of foundation prep that it takes to do that takes.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
A long time.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
It's a lot of work, it's a lot more expensive,
So don't shot by the price. But in this one specifically,
career versus identity, well, a career is that's a foundation
that's like, well, I can go get a job tomorrow
and that's my identity now, right, and just go apply
for a job, and now I have the job title
and this is who I am. That's the same as
like you and I go out in the woods, we
chop down to the trees, tharm on the ground, like hey, quickly,

(41:33):
we have a foundation.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Now.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
If you want to build an identity that is going
to last for a long time, that very thick and
solid foundation is understanding what it is that you believe
right in the way that we talk about believes things
that you know are true but can't prove. That's the
things that you're going to hold on to the most.
You've got to go through a lot of work to
really wrestle with those because when you talk to people

(41:56):
who like they're struggling in there, I don't know who
I am right now, I don't know who my identity is.
They're saying this as well, like I'm not sure what
I believe. Right, It's exactly what you're saying when you
say I don't know who I am and I'm not
sure what I believe. If you know what you believe,
you know who you are. Yeah, right, you know where
you stand in the world, you know where you stand
in the universe, you know what your role is when
you know what you believe, And that's the that's the

(42:17):
type of foundation that you know when you build a
big house, you don't really see the foundation al you
just feel it.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, that's exactly I mean. And you you know, we
could go long on identity and we have another podcast,
but vision, values, and beliefs, right, is the biggest piece. Yeah.
The convergence of those three things is what forms a
rock solid identity. And I remember you were the first
person to break it down. I actually spend a lot
of time thinking about that still because I would put
myself in the latter category that I didn't have like
somebody instilling a super strong sense of identity to me

(42:45):
growing up. So I've had to do a lot of
work on my own identity, unpack a lot of my
own experiences in life, and you know, get to a
place where I have very clear values and understanding of
beliefs and also develop a vision. It's what we do
in mindset mastery with ideal you like, that's to start
to develop the vision for who you were becoming, who
God made you to be, and then understanding what you
value based on the beliefs. Is that's not something that

(43:06):
we can go like, here's thirty minutes. Now you have
an identity, Like, it doesn't work that way. You have
to go continue to unpack that stuff because it shows
up in so many ways. But we could I mean identity.
I feel like the more I go on and you
can look at identity politics, you can look at what's
big in our society. I feel like people bump into
identity all the time and they don't know it. They
know that they are lacking purpose and it eats at them.
They may know that they're terrible at discipline because they

(43:28):
can point to it, but they don't realize how often
they're bumping into a lack of identity and it's holding
them back. And so what they'll do is they'll chase
it and career. Even if it's not short term, if
it's like, well I work ten years, it's still a shortcut.
And unfortunately, because the shortcut, it's not real and foundation.
That's exactly it. You're not choosing the right things. Don't
shop by the price, right all right, Well this one

(43:50):
was yours. So I want you to take this because
I think it's Fame is the fake thing and credibility
is the authentic thing.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
A lot of people that this is what they're after.
They Well, let me ask you a question as we
go into this. All right, why would someone want fame
or credibility? What's what would you want either of them for?

Speaker 2 (44:11):
What are you going to do with them?

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Well?

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I think that if you want fame, I think partially
you want to feel good about yourself. I think there's
I think it's partially partially chasing some idea.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Okay, that's certainly a benefit. Why else would influence? We
want influence? Yeah, okay, yeah, you want to be able
to influence. It's good, right, influence or power some level,
some means of having a substantial impact.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
On the world. For sure, that could be a good thing.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
And attention is powerful. Okay, So here's why you would
want either of these things, fame or credibility. Both of
them you'd want for the same reason to be able
to influence. Now what you You see this in the
celebrity world all the time. You see these people who
have all of the fame they and then they find
they don't actually have the influence that they thought they did.
Right Like, you make some of the biggest movies in

(44:53):
the world, sell the most records in the world, but
you start talking about politics and no one cares what
you have to say, right you. Like, if any of
these famous actors, you know, musicians wrote a book on
family or wrote a book on leadership, who wants to
hear it?

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Nobody does.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
They don't have any credibility in that area, and so
fame is actually selling yourself short. Credibility gets built over
a long period of time. You know, people want the
fame of being a Navy seal. You could go say
that and then that that'll turn around and bite you
in the butt. The credibility comes from like, it's not
that I have a it's not having the title of

(45:32):
being a Navy seal that's worth anything. It's who I
became in the process of going through that and what
that now allows me to do. And so I've kind
of taken this approach and being everything in my life.
I feel like I'm supposed to be very influential, to
have a great impact at some point in my life.
The season is not right now, but at some point
in my life, I believe I'll write a lot of

(45:52):
great books and all kinds of those things. But my
thought process has not been how do I build more
of an audience, how do I get more people to
follow me on Instagram? That's never been my thought process.
My thought process has I need to develop my message better.
And if I'll develop that, and the people who spend
all their time developing fame and attention, they get there

(46:13):
and they realize they don't have a message, they spend
all their time on the wrong thing.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
My thought process has.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Been I'm just going to continue to develop my message,
and if I don't have an audience, means my message
isn't good enough. And let your message become so good
that the audience is undeniable, right, And this is what
will actually produce the fruit in your life of wanting,
because what you want on the other side of fame
or credibility is I want to have some influence. Right,
there's people out there that'll tell you, Hey, you know,

(46:38):
we'll make you Amazon bestseller in thirty days. Right, who cares? Right,
No one cares. There's even if you even if you
do actually accomplish this and get this title, you're going
to walk around with this piece of paper showing everyone, Hey, guys,
look I'm Amazon bestseller.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Look what I did. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Well, then it's actually weirder for people because they're like,
I don't want to live How did you? These things
are disconnected. You're not someone of value that I would
like to listen to. But you, but you, but you
have this title?

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah? Right?

Speaker 1 (47:09):
And instead, why don't you be someone that people look
at you like, I can't believe you're not a New
York Times best set?

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah? Ge? Can you I want to give We didn't
plan on sharing this, but like you and I talked
about this, the best way to develop a message would
be the obvious question, and can you tell people what
your what your focus is? Because you preach every virtually
every Saturday at Mighty men, and I would say they're
very good messages. How you what you do before that?

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Because yeah, from well it's it's really from a it's
from a faith perspective. I'm never worried that I'm not
going to have something to say, right. Some of that's
skill set right when you are a junior speaker. That's
like for people who are afraid of publicing. What if
I get up there and I freeze? Right, I'm not
ever worried about that. I can always get up there
and talk. That's not what I'm worried about. But every

(47:54):
week when I when I get the chance to speak,
in Mighty Men, every week when I speak, it just
starts for me with prayer. And sometimes this is sometimes
I feel God speak to me very quickly. Other times
I've sat there for two and three hours and kind
of just waited and what I'm what I'm waiting to
hear is God, what do you want them to hear?

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Right?

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Like, what do you want me to say? One of
my everyday prayers is God, more of You and less
of me. And I pray every Saturday morning. Lord, when
I speak, let them hear You and not me. And
so that's my desire with the message that I'm developing,
is God, what's the message you want them to hear?
Because anything other than that right. This is man if

(48:33):
you this is like a team. I'm very strong on
these things. You've you've experienced the good and the bad
of it. I know the greatness of what happens on
a team when everyone's rowing together, okay, And there can
be people on the team that have good intentions, they're like, oh,
let me help, Like your help is the opposite of
help because you're not following the leader. And the last

(48:56):
thing I ever want to be is that type of
person on God's team that like, God doesn't need my help.
H exactly, he doesn't, right, He needs me to follow him, right,
And I want to be useful. I want to be
a great member of God's team. And what that means
is me saying, God, what do you want? Not like,
here's how I think I could help you. God doesn't
need me to be his consultant.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah, that's so good. I want you to share that
because I think for a lot of people when they
hear you talk about like you just go develop a
great message. The heart of a great message is it
comes from a great place. And the greatest place you
could ever have something come from is obviously the creator
of the universe. And so see it seems logical when
you got that way.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
And the price part of that is I don't say, God,
what do you want me to say? What do you
want them to hear? Asterisk parentheses that I'm willing to share,
that wouldn't be too painful for me to talk about,
that wouldn't offend people, that would God, what do you
want me to say? That would get people to like me?

(49:52):
What do you want me to say? That would get
people to want to stay here? At tend more? Give more?
It's none of those thoughts, God, what do you want?
That's the end of the thought. And so that that
that does require of me the willingness to you know,
I'll pay whatever the price is. God, if if this
is the message you want me to speak, and that
that's gonna hurt, but that's what I'm willing to do.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah, so good. So next one upg was money over
mastery and.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Yeah, well we'll wrap up with kind of just these.
I've got two last thoughts here, money over mastery. This
is another one for people where like, really, what you
like what you're pursuing. People think they want money, but
you look at some of the most successful people in
the world, right let's use you know, guys like Sam Altman,
guys like Elon Musk, guys who are developing AI right now,

(50:41):
they're not focused on making more money, right correct, their
focus on develop for them, and I'll really oversimplify it.
They're focused on gaining more power because money is not
the end of the road for them, right And I'll
say that a little bit differently. The most important thing
that you can do is develop mastery. Nick has heard
me talk about in my own life, like i don't
fear not having money because I've developed myself to a

(51:04):
place where like having no money is not scary to me,
Like you could you can put me anywhere with zero resources,
and I know I can develop from there because I've
think if you gained all of this money, but you
didn't have the ability to do it again, all that
every dollar for you is another ounce of fear because

(51:24):
it's something that you have that you can't protect, right
Versus I know how to create money, like I'm never
afraid of losing money, and so developing a mastery path,
which is where you'd feel that way and have the
ability to create value to create money, is actually the
real path that you want to go down, not how
do I get money? Because if you go down the

(51:44):
how to get money, you'll end up making the wrong choices.
It won't take you where you want to go, and
if you do actually attain it, it'll be a burden
to you instead of a blessing.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Yeah, because if you follow one of these hack paths,
the problem is when the hack path doesn't work anymore,
what do you do? That's what it actually looks like,
is like I a very specific way to make money,
Like I sold things on Amazon. Well then everybody sold
things on Amazon and what you were doing didn't work anymore,
and now you're stuck with like, well I only knew
how to do it one way. That's a lot of
people what you just described, whereas if you actually understand
the whole creation process, it's very different. So, yeah, that's

(52:16):
so good. I could go on and on, but keep going.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
The last one here and we'll wrap up. Is again,
these are just shortcuts that people take, and this is
volume versus validity. This is much of a We see
a lot of this in social media and in the
fame and attention world. This is similar to my audience
versus message thought process, but instead of being the loudest
instead of you know, and the volume here can be emotions.

(52:42):
Volume here can actually be the volume of your voice.
Volume here can be how hard you're trying at some
of the wrong things, but you're trying to gain power
and gain authority by just overpowering things by just instead
the right way to grow, the right way to actually
have power is to stand on the truth. That's volume

(53:02):
versus validity. So live a life, live a message that's
going in the right direction, that's based on the foundation
of truth, and that's far more pawered, Like you can
whisper the truth and it's and it's louder than the
loudest lie.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Yeah, that's so good. So I really hope as we
wrap up here that you're realizing that the question you
need to be asking is not price led, but it's
choosing the right things. That's the place to start, right,
is when you choose the right things. Understand you don't
get to determine the price, and you'll never know the
exact price, But as you go on and pay it,
there's a joy in the process of becoming. You're becoming,
you're developing the fruits that you can be the type

(53:35):
of person that can sustain the vision when you get there,
and if you can pay that price and keep walking
the path and resist the temptation for shortcuts, you will
truly see a life that's exceedingly abundantly above all you
can ask, think, or imagine, just like God promised.

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