246. Stop Starting Over: The Secret to Lasting Change

Why do so many people struggle to change—even after a wake-up call like a health scare, a broken relationship, or a major failure? In this episode of The Impossible Life Podcast, Nick and Garrett break down the real process of transformation that goes deeper than willpower or quick fixes.

They reveal the five essential parts of lasting change:

1. Humility – the starting point for growth.
2. Submission – aligning with a mission bigger than yourself.
3. Truth – building on an unshakable foundation.
4. Purpose – discovering why your life matters in God’s plan.
5. Consistency – the fruit of transformation that actually sticks.

Packed with biblical wisdom, practical insights, and powerful analogies—from Navy SEAL experiences to everyday struggles—this episode will show you how to stop recycling the same failures and finally step into lasting change. Whether you’re trying to break a bad habit, grow spiritually, or live with greater discipline, this episode gives you the tools to move beyond temporary fixes and into transformation that lasts.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Nothing will humble you and scare you like emptiness, like
my life doesn't matter. And when I tell you that
your life does matter, right, like, if you're willing to
hear it, you'll realize the thing that you actually want
to run from the most is the emptiness in your life.
And I tell men all the time, like I can
make one promise to you about the Gospel is that
you'll never know emptiness if you'll follow God. And that

(00:23):
is better than anything else you could possibly face.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
That's impossible. Let me tell you what I believe. What's
your weakness is not your technique. Don't think you know
you the Impossible Life Podcast. I mean you're sitting on
a winning lot of seconds, an idea that is fully formed,
fully understood, that sticks.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
This is the Impossible Life Podcast because Nick and I
are attempting to live impossible lives. What we know is
that nothing is impossible. So instead of you impossible as
an excuse to not try, we'll use the pursuit of
impossible as an accelerant for greatness. If something's never been
done before, that just means it's unexplored. If they tell

(01:12):
you it's too hard, it's just waiting to be simplified
impossible as a default label used by uncourageous people unwilling
to take a risk. The real truth is this The
solution to any impossible task starts with this question, if
I had to, what would it take?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
What would it take? Welcome to another episode of the
Impossible Life Podcast. I'm your cost Nick Surfas, and I'm
looking across as a man who's fourteenth biggest dream is
to have someone break into his house. That's right, friends
the forward Darin Ankleback, a man who will leave the
door unlocked just to make bad guys think they have

(01:53):
a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I can't say it's my dream, but it'll definitely be
their nightmare.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, you know this was spark because Garrett said something.
He's like, you know, it's not something I really want
to happen, but actually I kind of really do want
it to happen. And then he proceeded to tell me
this was recently.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, I don't want it to happen. Okay, No, I
don't need to smoke some dude in my house and
traumatize my family.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Right, Okay, Well, I'm glad that we got that clear.
So it's not even a dream anymore. I don't really
want that to happen. Like I said, it's not my dream,
but it'll be their nightmare. Right, he does lock his
door and don't try and break in, it won't end
well for you. That's that's the point of that intro,
all right, gee, the point of today's episode. Man, I'm
looking forward to getting into this because this is something

(02:35):
I've been pondering about, like what makes a person change,
you know, like what actually causes someone not just to change,
like oh man, I got in shape for like that month,
but I'm talking lasting change, Like people lack consistency and
we all know you need consistency, and people want to know,
like how what makes change stick? Well, if you've ever
wondered that, if you're in a place where you're like, man,
there's this thing that I've been wanting to do.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
It's crazy today's to day that people don't change. Okay,
I don't remember the stat it's like sixty. I think
it's like sixty or seventy percent of people who get
open heart surgery. Yeah, don't change. Right, they have to
take a saw and cut your ribcage open and do
heart surgery on you, and then why are your chess

(03:17):
back together? And it's like it's a crazy it's like
sixty or seventy percent. They don't change after that, Like what, yeah,
what would have to happen?

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, we're going to get into If you're sitting there
going like why doesn't that make sense, We're going to
get into that because there's a there's some good reasons
for that. So as I always do, Garrett, I always
try and go like, Okay, where do we see big change?
And we've talked about this before on this podcast, but
I think like I was looking for big changes, like
I googled, you know, big changes in society and all
the changes that it gave me for examples, Thanks a lot, Google,

(03:45):
we have different views of the world because it gave
me all examples of things that I'm like, Nope, that's
not going to stick around. It was basically a bunch
of social like justice and all sorts of things like
the me too movement was in there, and I was like, okay,
these are not nice one Google.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, Google, we were thinking take your level one syop
elsewhere exactly.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Oh, I'm going to filter my own search results today, Google.
I appreciate it. But anyways, but one of the things
that did highlight that. I was like, now that's a
great example of where we've seen societal shift is smoking.
So smoking in the nineteen fifties was like at its
peak nineteen fifty five, forty five percent of the US
adult of US adults smoked. Really think like that is insane.

(04:25):
And then this is going to highlight how change happens.
In nineteen sixty four, the Surgeon General's report comes out
and goes, Yeah, that's actually pretty bad for you, and
it's not gonna it's gonna kill you.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
It's like for a lot of people, if you look
at your family history, one hundred percent of your great
grandparents smoke. Yeah, half to three quarters or maybe all
of your grandparents smoked, and then half or none of
your parents smoked. Like you talk to people in their
family history, that's what they'll see, like, right, everybody did,
most did, not very many did.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Who does that? Right? Yeah, And that's how that's where
we're at today. And now we're back to vaping. And yeah,
and that's a whole other conversation. I'm not looking into vaping.
I'm just talking about smoking.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
But it's still just like zen pouches sixty Yeah, that too,
Zenderella's sixty is that what they're called what they're calling them?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Okay, I'm not down with the cool kids like you are,
but sixty four the Surgeon General's report comes out, right,
so you think, like Surgeon general report comes out and says,
this is really bad for you. Now, rewind yourself of
the sixties, which I was nowhere even around in the sixties,
although it would have been really cool to be there.
But how do you get the word out. It's not
like now where you can have push notifications and everybody's

(05:34):
reading the news and you can have you know, some
influencers and it's on X and it's on It's not
like that, so it takes a while to get things out. Well,
in the seventies they decide, okay, now we're going to
start putting in They put in bands, they had cigarette
ads on TV and radios. Surgeon General's weren't they had
the warning labels became mandatory. That was in nineteen seventy one.
Was whenever it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
That you can even sell a product with a giant box,
big bold.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Letters, this will kill you. I'll take two of those, please? Yeah?
How much are that twenty bucks each? No? Problem.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
We're gonna we're gonna increase the tax to one hundred
percent of the product price.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
That's right, right, so they so get this. In the seventies,
they banned them. On nineteen seventy one, they ban ads
from TV and radio, like you can't advertise cigarettes anymore.
So that should make it the end of the ad era.
Well that mad men were still going, but they banned cigarettes,
and then warning labels become mandatary. Okay, so you would think, okay, great,
it still takes the seventies and all of the eighties.

(06:28):
So if it was forty five percent in the fifties,
in the nineties, it got down to twenty five percent,
which is still remarkably high. It wasn't until now, like
we're in the twenty twenties where it's twelve percent is
according to the charts that I'm looking at right now.
And when you and that doesn't include vabing, well, I'm
guessing I don't know, man, because this is this is
like I'm looking at the overall decline of smoking rates

(06:50):
in the US. The point being though, think about like, Okay,
this will kill you unquestioned, ah, but I still enjoy it. No, No,
it's really going to kill you. Yeah, Okay, we're gonna
have to cut off ads, we're gonna have to put
the label on the thing, and it's gonna have to
ban you from being able to do it in public places.
Like how much pain can we give you with this thing?

Speaker 1 (07:07):
The people from that generation didn't change, it's just the
generations after change.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
But that's but that's my point. Do you think about
like even in the nineties they didn't have smoking band,
So really, this is really interesting thought for you. We
didn't talk about this before Elon muh, Like people have
asked Elon Musk before, you know, like all these other
you know, super billionaire world changer dudes are trying to
live for forever. You we don't.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
We don't see you working on any of this, right, Like, yeah,
he's at the very forefront of technology, but Elon Musk
is zero has zero focus on like how to you forever?
And he says, I don't think people should yeah, because
people don't really change, They just die.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Huh. That's such a great quote. I like that he said.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
He says, like if we did, like if people live
for forever, yeah, or like even or just even a
long time right, if like rich people live for four
hundred five hundred years, he said, it would stagnate humanity.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Now what I say, those that's without the transformative power
of Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, because if we're in on still, he's he's got
some friends hopefully moving on the right, directing around some
of the right people. Because I love that quote until
I think about the implications of it, and I go, actually,
that would negate this whole episode and everything I to
live my life for. It's a great Uh, it's a
great analysis of the world, right.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
And that was what I was highlighting with the smoking.
It's amazing that you see these key points in history
and yet the rate like, yeah, it drops, but like
it's not. You would think from a logical standpoint, if
I said, hey, what you're doing is one hundred percent
going to kill you. It's gonna take a lot of
your money, it's gonna turn your teeth yellow, it's gonna
make you smell. You're not going to be able to
hang out with your friends in certain public places unless

(08:41):
you're gonna have to excuse yourself all the time. You think, oh,
it's gonna be zero percent, but it's not. And so
that's the whole points like how much pain? Because they
had to keep introducing more points of pain. First we'll
ban the ads. Then we'll put a warning on it.
We'll tell you it's gonna kill you. Now we're gonna
have like active campaigns against it. Okay, it's dropping, but
people are still doing Okay, let's raise the prices of it. Okay,
well they're still doing it. Well, let's make it abandoned public.

(09:01):
You're not allowed to do it in certain places, Okay,
Like how much pain do you need before you change?
And this is the whole thing of me really thinking
about what makes a person change, And I think about
my own story. You know, I've obviously had a huge
transformation in my life, and I know what that's like
to live that out because you know, it's my life.
And one of the key things for me is I

(09:22):
knew it, Like I highlight this all the time. I
knew I was broken. I don't think I knew how
badly I was broken, but I knew that my life
was not working. There was a large element of discontentedness,
of a lack of purpose, of pain, of feeling separation
in the relationship with the person that I was closest
to in my wife, and I was very conscious that
I needed to like I needed to have something shift

(09:45):
and I was seeking it, but I was seeking it
in the wrong places. And then when God broke into
my life. Truly, if you know my story, I think
it's episode ninety eight is my story that I share.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
A lot of people don't realize how much they need change. Yeah,
it's like if your roof starts, like if you're getting
a drip from your ceiling, there's that's a one little drip.
That means there's probably a giant hole in your roof, right,
and that like that's the level of symptoms that people
experience from how much they actually need change. Right, Like

(10:13):
the drip was starting to build up in your life,
You're like, man, something is just not right. But a
lot of people they need to change so badly, But
they don't have a hole in the roof because hail
went through it. They have a hole in the roof
just from erosion. Over time, it slowly like things have
just been leaking into their life and they've gotten to
this place over a long period of time doing the

(10:34):
slowly doing the wrong things in the wrong direction, and
their life's just getting worse, and eventually that drip gets
loud enough that they realize they need to change.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, and if your roof leaks, obviously you call a roofer.
And if you're in Texas, you've got four thousand options,
so you know you're never far away from that. But
for a lot of people, you don't know what to do.
Like if you go to start your car and your
car doesn't start, well, is it the starter? Is the alternator?
Is the battery? Like if you're not a mechanic, you're like,
I don't really know what to do. I better call somebody.
Who do you call for your life? And that's It's
like why we exist is like we want to change

(11:01):
the perception of what it means to be a godly man,
and we know that there's people out there that are
hungry to grow. I think about me as like a prototype.
I was hungry to grow. I didn't know what to do.
I was, you know, That's why I ended up with
Tony Robbins, who I think has incredible material and a
lot of merit. There was lots of books I read,
there was things I was doing. There's you know, going
to cognitive behavioral therapy. But it wasn't until God literally

(11:22):
brought us to Texas, into the environment that we're in
now and brought people into my life. But more than
just bring people into my life, like the Holy Spirit
broke into my life like I will never nobody can
ever convince me that God did not speak to me
on that day when I heard the words like it
was like somebody put a megaphone up to my ear
and said, my ways are better. And that was what
I heard. But what I actually comprehended in that moment

(11:44):
was so much greater than that. It was like the
matrix plug. I had a patch upload where all these
things in my life made sense, and I realized that
what I was missing was God. I was trying to
do all these things to improve myself, but I was
missing the author of life. And when that came in
in that moment, I was repent and I said, if
I'm the be in them, and be all in. And
from that day on, it was like porn has been gone,
removed from my life, has zero, like honest, no draw

(12:07):
to me whatsoever, And especially after having Josh Brumon, I
find it even more repulsive. And that's not to say
that I'm judging anyone out there who's struggling with porn.
I'm just saying, like God did a dramatic shift. That's
what I'm trying to highlight. And so I want to
get into this because I think that what I've experienced
and what I know so many other people are out
there seeking and looking for, is to understand what brings
lasting changes. So we're going to get into that. Now.

(12:29):
We have a great Fortunately, we are in a transformational
environment here where we see people's lives change. What happens
in Mighty Men is like such an incursion. What happens
through this podcast something all reach out and you'll put
reviews on whether you write them on Apple, which if
you do, thank you that helps other people get this.
If you put the five star or whatever you comment
on Spotify, I read them all, so thank you for
doing that. And I just see how people are like

(12:51):
reaching out to U or they'll send us emails, and like, man,
I'm changing my life from listening to you guys. I
cannot tell you what a blessing that is. Garrett and
I don't stop and give each other high and patch
on the back.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
We just go, oh Lord, just look at it when
you send a review, like, you know, Nick and I
appreciate it, but it's not for us. Now, when you
leave a review, think of it as like you're writing
a letter to someone telling them like, Hey, this podcast
is going to change your life.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I hope you check it out.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
And so I hope if you've experienced that from this podcast,
that you could just take a moment to write somebody
else a letter.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, And because because what we're seeing is that people
are using what we're doing. And when I say people,
I mean God. Like, that's the reason why we do
this is we know that what Garrett and I say,
if it's not spirit inspired, if it's not something that's
that's in line with what God's doing, then it's just
us talking about some cool ideas. And we never want
to be that. We always want to be giving people
things that can fuel their transformation and their draw towards God.

(13:43):
And so I say all that to say, we're so
fortunate to be in this environment and we want to
continue to just share what we have. But where we
talk about change, there's this great quote from Peshki Kraft
and he says some people don't change until they hurt
enough that they have to experience enough they want to,
or grow enough they're able to. And when we talk

(14:05):
about what makes a person change, I've never heard a
better quote. And I love quotes, and I'm sure maybe
there's one out there. I'm not saying that just because
I haven't heard it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But
like to I'm gonna say that again, some people don't
change until they hurt enough. They have to experience enough
they want to, or grow enough they're able to. And
if you think about that, you'll fall into one of
those three categories. For me, I think it was. You'll

(14:27):
it can be a combination of them, but I for
sure was hurt, right, Like I knew there was pain,
And I think pain is a blessing because it highlights
things in your life that hey, this isn't working. And
when you see pain that way, you start to you
don't want to hide from it, you want to pay
attention to it.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
And like the herd is getting forced to change, yeah, right,
that's it's survival, right, right, it is you get forced
you know, the judge puts you in rehab, right, you
have to change. You're going to change, or we'll change
for you. We'll send you to prison. Right, So it's
up to you.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah. Right, that is a force to change. Right.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Your wife drops papers on you, right, and you're like,
what I thought everything was fine?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Right?

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Like, it's change or change, something's going to change. And
so that's the first reason that people change. And it's
what we're talking about today is so many people would
like you know what I would like, Nick would like,
there's some things in my life. I would like them
to change. And wouldn't you like to know how to
get things to change?

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Right?

Speaker 1 (15:21):
If you wait for things to change, this is default living.
And a lot of times if you're waiting for the
things to change for you, you won't like the way that
they change.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, big time.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
And that is the It is one of the knowns
of the universe is that change is constant.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Right.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
There are a few things in the in the universe
that are anchored, and everything else around it is changing.
And your your life and the way things are going
in your life is not one of the universal constants.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Right.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
So everything and this is the world that God has designed.
Everything in your life is going to change. Let's get
in front of the change instead of being behind it.
Let's understand how to change why we change, Like, let's
get the thing to change for us and change in
the direction that we want them to instead of just
living a life subject to change.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, And I would challenge you, like the same way
I shared the smoking example, how badly do you have
to hurt before you're willing to change? Because one of
my one of the scriptures that I love so much.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Is well, some people show that that's not even enough
for them, right, right, Like some people they get diagnosed
with cancer, yeah, right, lung cancer from smoking at whatever, right,
heart surgery from poor life choices, whatever. For some people,
the hurt won't change them. But there are other ways
that people change.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, But I've observed in people. I feel like people
have a pain. Most people have, but everyone has a
pain threshold. Right, you can't see it. But what I've
what I've seen, there's enough pain for people that I
don't and I don't know what it is is different.
You can't see it, but you go, man, you or
your life is a mess right now. And they're like
they just keep going, yeah, and then something will happen.
They're spoiling the frog, that's exactly, But something will happen.

(16:55):
Where it kind of ticks over just and it hits
whatever invisible threshold and then they're like, that's like rock
I don't know if I should call it rock bottom
because you can always go lower. But I'm just like,
I've watched this in people where I'm like, man, you're
not hurting enough. You're hurting enough for me, where I'm like, man,
please change like that you're you're headed for disaster, but
for them they're not. And I think about that scripture
it says a wise man learns more from rebuke than
a fool learns from one hundred blows to his back.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Think about, Uh, you go to the beach with your friends.
A lot of times your friends will tell you your
sunburn before you see it.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Very good analogy. Yeah, Like you're like, what up?

Speaker 1 (17:26):
You know, you know, because your skin's just slowly getting cooked,
and everyone's like, bro, you don't look so good right now.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
You should put some sunscreen on.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
And uh, we're having actually kind of anti sunscreen, but
we're not going to go down there, not.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Going to go down that road right now. But then
somebody pats you on your shoulder like ooh, and then
you realize how bad it is and by that point
it's like, oh man, it's too late in the sunburn analogy.
But yeah, I just I think about that, like how
much would you have to hurt change? And then the
second one like experience, Like what you like experience? You
experience enough you want to, uh what this is? Is?
So right?

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Like there's first type of change is hurt forced too,
lots of pain, experience. There's a lot of things that
go into experience. The analogy I would give for this
is you go do third world of angelism. Right, You're
trying to like introduce Christ to somebody and what they
don't like, what they need is to hear about the
love of Christ. But try to tell a starving person

(18:20):
about Jesus, right, the first thing you need to do
is feed them.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
And so this isn't like this is a lot less
practical to most of us, but this is a good understanding.
It's a good analogy that shows like there's sometimes where
you need certain ingredients before you can change practically. What
this looks a lot more like is with your kids, okay,
or with your wife even we talk about it on
this podcast a lot. It's the way that Christ is
with us don't give people deserve what they deserve, give

(18:45):
people what they need. Sometimes what your child deserves is
a butt whooping. But what they need to change is
for you know, for you to look them in the eye.
For you, and I'm not a gentle parenting person, but
for you to look them in the eye. Sometimes they
just need like some emotional center. They need some warmth
followed by some firmness.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Right.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
But it's giving people what they need to change, not
just giving people what they deserve.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
That's good and that and that's I mean, there's and.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
That's that's that's who Christ was. Christ said, I didn't
come to abolish the law. I came to fulfill it.
What I said, what sin, sin still has a punishment.
God is still adjust God. But what what God is saying,
and what Christ was saying, is I actually want things
to be different. Let's not stone the woman to death. Yes,
the law says we should do that. But more than
punishment for sin, what I want is relationship with you.

(19:34):
So let me give you what you need instead of
what you deserve.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, very very good. All right, then growth you know
you have to help people want to change.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, this is so you could kind of come. You
could kind of put them in the same category, but
I'll separate them. Right, experiences get there's certain ingredients people
like they can't change until you feed them. You can't
they can't change until you love them. Or sometimes we
get we're the ones who are stuck. And this is
you can you can hear and receive this podcast both ways.
Hopefully you don't just hear this podcast but like, nothing

(20:03):
wrong with me, I don't need to change. But here's
how I helped change everybody else. But you can't hear
this podcast both ways. How to help yourself change and
also how to help others change. And there's the experience portion,
which is like, hey, there's ingredients that you're missing, and
then the growth portion, which this is you know, one
of the best analogies I can give for this is

(20:24):
guys that I was in the sealed teams with I
would try to witness to some of them. And the
typical church evangelism of right, this is it's not it
shouldn't be the typical, but this has been typical church
evangelism because I don't think people have been educated properly
and discipled properly. Typical church evangelum has been like, oh,
you know what, like when when they hit rock bottom,

(20:46):
when they go through a hard time, you know, I'll
swing in and and you know, you just look at
any person who doesn't have God is like, well, they're
just headed for destruction. And they are, but that doesn't
mean that their personal life is actually headed for destruction.
Have figured out some principles in life, and they're laughing
at you, as a follower of Christ, as zero principles
in their life, Like, I don't want to learn anything

(21:08):
from you, right Like, your life seems to be.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Going in the wrong direction.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
But I learned in trying to witness to some of
other seals of like man, trying to talk to these
guys like in their brokenness doesn't work. I had a
friend who literally just came home from a deployment of
cleaning his friend's body parts out of a humbie, hiding
a drug habit, and in the middle of divorce. And
this dude was just cranking it every single day, right like,

(21:33):
he didn't need no help from nobody, and there was
no amount of brokenness evangelism that could be done in
this man's life, right the way that you could witness
to somebody like that is say, hey, man, you're missing
it right. The path that you're on is not the
greatest path. Start to tell him about what more is
there for him and some of that emptiness that you fighting,
because like one of my friends he used to say

(21:54):
to me, he's like, I know you. He's like he
respected me, and so he was joking when he said this.
He's like, I know you're not a good seal because
you sleep too good. All the good seals like fight
inner demons. Right, It's like, you sleep way too good
to be a good seal. Right, And but most of
these guys they struck. They have so much battle, but
they're great warriors and so they fight their demons every
single day. But I couldn't witness to those guys who

(22:17):
are like, man, like you know, Jesus is going to
be here for your booboos. I didn't work on these guys.
But what did work, and what was the only thing
that could work on these guys was there's more, right,
there's more life. There's a greater path for you. And
that's the growth portion of really helping people want to change.
And that's what I try to do, like in my
coaching practice with people, right, instead of trying to people

(22:38):
think like oh Navy seal, like I just need someone
to beat me and discipline me and whit me. No,
you don't. You need to think about the right things.
If I get you focused on the right things, you'll change, right,
Like the analogy I make all the time for between
discipline and purpose. If I told you, like, hey, you know,
you need to come run a marathon with me tomorrow
morning at four am, most people are like, I'm out, bro.

(22:58):
But if I said, if you don't come run a
marathon with me tomorrow at four am, something terrible is
going to happen to your family. Doesn't matter what your
personal level of fitness is. Most people are going to
make it happen right, right, because when you get focused
on the right things, you'll do the right things.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, yeah, very good. Gee. All right, So we wanted
to like highlight what sort of starts a lot of
people towards change from a very big picture, but we
dove into the actual steps and there's basically five parts
for lasting change, and we're going to we're going to
dive into these now.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
The quote is such a great it is it's such
a great intro. It talks about like three categories where
people get stuck and we just want to go a
little bit deeper because I feel like so many people
get stuck in change. They want change, and hey, something
something bad happened to me and I didn't like that.
But how many times have you tried to change or
seen other people in your life try to change and
they just didn't really get to the finish line. They

(23:51):
ran halfway to halfway and they're like oh, and then
they circle back. And so what does it take to
actually get from where you are to where you want
to be in the change process?

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, because and I'll tell you what sparked this. G
I know there's a lot of people out there that
listen to us. I know because we read all the
Mindset Mastery applications. And by the way, congratulations to Nick
Mastulaires who won the Mindset Mastery Scholarship. Was that a
bias selection? You know? I actually did think because he
had my first name, I was going to get accused
of that. But I promise you had nothing he crushed.

(24:21):
I mean, I don't know that I could have written
a better application as far as somebody who was humble, hungry,
and like was just really wanted to change their life
by changing their thinking. But we had so many good ones.
But at the same time I also.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Did well well done.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah you guys.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Looking forward to seeing you guys in Mindset Master for sure.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
But I you know, I remember so what I like
reading those those applications was actually kind of a very
I don't know. It was very humbling and very sobering
because in some people's applications you could read they so
badly wanted to change, and they were hoping that just
if we could just give them this program, it would
change everything for them. And I know from experience what
that's like. When you're sat there and you're like you're

(24:59):
looking because you're like you're looking for something outside yourself,
like you're looking for the pill. The same way that
that the medical industry works, where it's like here, just
take this and everything changes. It doesn't actually fix the problem,
It just makes the pain go away. And that's how
a lot of people approach.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Change, whether it's the weight loss drugs right, or or
steroids or whatever. Like I've seen people take steroids and
not change their fitness behavior and not change their eating behavior,
and it didn't really do much for them, right, right,
you think like, oh if I could just what's the
magic thing that'll change me. It's like you have to
change from the inside out.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, and that's what I'm just I'm reminded of that
as we go into this because when we go into
these change these steps, you're gonna see nothing we talk
about in these five comes from the outside. So just
there's there's like you're hint And that was that was
the biggest revelation I had and changed and I was
I literally was reminded as we were pressing record of
what it was when I realized, oh, so it's not
gonna be something from the outside. It's going to start

(25:54):
from the inside and that's going to push to the outside.
And so very first thing that starts with Gus humility
and you have a great saying you say you can
either be humble or you can get humbled.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, I like, I didn't hear that, but I heard
that in the Seal team, Like, no one said it
that way, but that's what that was the message. It's
a garretan uncle back original then was the message I
heard in the seal teams, right, like where you're we're
either going to humble you or you're going to be
humble enough to learn right, you're one way or the other.

(26:24):
You're going you're going in the fire right one way
or the other. We're going to produce this product so
you can either receive it or or it can get prescribed.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, and I think the the humility is so underrated man,
and I and you can if you're a Bible believing
in Christian you know that because you'll read all the
scriptures about you know, humility comes before honor. And you
talk about Jesus coming to the earth, like, Hey, the
savior of the humanity is coming. What do we need
to do to get ready? Oh? Y'all need to repent?
What do you mean? Yeah, you need to realize your

(26:53):
way isn't working, because if you don't realize your way
isn't working, you're not going to be ready for the
way that's coming, the truth, the life, and and it
it's actual repentance. And I think it's so it's so
deceptive because a lot of times like I don't like this,
so I'm gonna try something different. And that's not repentance,
that's not humility, that's just saying like, uh, you know,
I'm gonna try something new, and you can have the

(27:13):
same heart of like I'm gonna dip my toe and
see if this thing will change it for me. But
when you actually have humility, you just go my way
is so broken, like I am open to like I
need something better. Well.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
I made this analogy at Mighty Men yesterday about taking
people to the range, right, and yeah, every experience I've
ever had where I took like a married couple to
the range, after about forty five minutes with them, I've
got the woman out shooting the man. Yeah, because the
woman comes in there and is like I don't know nothing. Yeah,
tell me what to do, like like put my hands

(27:47):
on here, Like where's my finger supposed to be on
the trigger? How does this thing work? I don't know
what this is? Like, show me everything. I know nothing.
And when you'll be that muldible, it's like I don't
need very long with you, right right, If you'll do
exactly what I tell you to do and not add
some of your own stuff to it, this is going
to be really easy. But with men like I'll go

(28:09):
over there and okay, well okay, hold it this way,
and they're like oh, okay, okay, and I go over
there and help late I come back. They're holding it
the way they were holding it before, Like, well I
didn't like that. Oh okay, well I didn't. I didn't
ask you if you liked it. You came here and
you said you want me to help you, So what
you like is completely irrelevant. Then it really is just
a lack of humility. Well, and and it's not like

(28:30):
those guys are being arrogant and telling me like I
know more than you. Yeah, that's that's exactly right. This
people think that's what human like humility is. Right, Like
Tho's gotten every single guy that can there was a
level of humility for them to receive training from another man.
And so that's not that's not what the The real
humility I'm looking for is. Humility is saying, Okay, my
way doesn't work, and just because I like it or

(28:52):
it feels more comfortable than to me to do it
this way, I'm going to have to do something different.
I That's why I like to golf, cause I get
humbled all the time, right cause, like lot, so much
of athletics were really natural to me, right, and golf
was not. Yeah, right, there's a lot like I'm still
for as much golf as I've done, as much golf
instruction as I've received, I'm defying the principles in so

(29:14):
many ways. Like I hang out with the good golfers,
still can't Still not a good one, yeah right, and
it continually humbles me. And I know there's things in
my golf game today, right. I won't go into them
because it's not valuable to most people, but there's things
in my golf game today that I know that I
do that are wrong.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Right, that I just don't like it? Well, okay, well
you know what, man, so much of you that's just
that's like you. I'm just going to push back, but
by one. But really think about what Garrett said, because
here's what every person would say. If we said to people,
hey are you perfect? Every person listens would be like, well, no,
I know I'm not perfect. And that's like what a
lot of people think is humility. Well, I know I'm
not perfect, but I'm trying. But can't I just right?

(29:50):
And I but I but you know, I'm pretty good,
but I do that. What he's saying is when you're
on the range and somebody comes up to you that
knows what they're doing, and he's literally world class like
you are, and says hold it this way, and you're
kind of like, I didn't like it. You would not
think that that's pride, but that is literally the pride
that's keeping you from from being able to actually why
why can't the way that I like it work too? Right?

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I mean, I would love to say that's that's really
what lack of humanity is.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, and I would love to say this is only
other people. But I recently bought a hunting rifle and
I've cited in a rifle before with a friend's who's
well trained, and he guided me and we got it
zeroed in. I've used the rifle, it works great. So
I got a new rifle. It was gonna mount the scope.
It's like, do you just helped me mount it? I
can go zero in. He's like, you don't know how
to site in a rifle. I'm like, dude, I've done before,
and he said he just his tone got even more direct.

(30:37):
He's like, you don't know how to cite in a rifle.
And I was just like, yeah, all right, dude, I
need your help. And that was like that was like
a five second conversation we had but like, why am
I stating it? Because like I sat there, I'm like,
why am I telling a Navy seal? I got this, bro,
And that's what I was doing. So like we're all like,
that's a real story that happened recently. We're all subject
to this. And I look at what's happening right now

(30:58):
in our country, and you know, we're according this in
late September of twenty twenty five, and Charlie Kirk, unfortunately,
was assassinated a little over two weeks ago, and there's
a wave Praise the Lord. You talk about the blood
of martyrs, being that this the water that grows the
seeds of the gospel. We're seeing a wave of people
come back to church, and we're seeing people realize and

(31:19):
start to ask some eternal questions. And I'm so grateful
that it's happening. And my prayer is that people find Jesus,
they find a great body of believers that are seeking
God wholeheardly, and they really come to true repentance and
lasting change. But I asked Garrett about this. I was saying,
you know, unfortunately, I think that a lot of people
are going to come in and they're going to come
to church for a few weeks and maybe, like you said,

(31:40):
with the heart attack, victims fade back out. And I
was asking you, I was like, how does how do
you make sense of that? In relation to humility?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
It's both when when you change out of pain, you'll
change until you're not in pain anymore, right, and then
you'll go back. Yes, right, It's that Maslow's hierarchy loop
where like you circle back, you circle back. And what
I don't want is for people to come to church
out of fear, yeah, right, or to come like what
it has to truly be. And this is this is

(32:08):
what I look for in people to join my teams.
This is what I look for in people who ask
for coaching, right, I'm looking for humility. Do you are
you actually willing and open to learn? Can you admit
that your way hasn't worked as much as you'd like
it to and now we can change? And this is
what people need to hear coming back to church, is

(32:28):
it's not like oh well, man, like this is this
is getting for real? You know, they they killed one
of us and I got to go to church. What's
been for real the whole time?

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Right? Like this?

Speaker 1 (32:40):
You you just saw what has been happening in the
supernatural and in the spiritual bubble up into the physical. Right,
it just cracked the seams a little bit. This has
been happening the whole time. And Humility is you saying, like,
you know what that this is a wake up call
for me. But I'm not going to come back to
church because I'm afraid I'm gonna come back to church
because the fact that this scared me isn't the problem.

(33:02):
This scared me because I'm not who I need to be.
This scared me because I'm not involved in training. I
got an army uniform at home, but I never go
to the range, right, right. I got my Bible on
my phone, but I don't know what it says.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, and and and so that's that's what That's why
I wanted to highlight that, because it's like unless there's
that humility in there, at that actual brokeness of like okay,
where you have that realization, hopefully they have that deeper
realization you just talked about where it's like, Okay, I'm
not who I need to be and actually this has
woken me up, not just hey, that scared me a
little bit, and I want to get around some good stuff.
And so so I think we've covered humility. I feel

(33:37):
like you could keep going on it. But number two,
what happens after you've been humbled and we touched on it,
but we didn't use this word is submission, right.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
It leads into it, and so let me You might
you might think that they're they're similar, and they are,
but here's what submission actually is.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Right.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Humility is you get broken down. You're either you become
humble or you get humbled and you become open to
the Lord. Submission is a continual choice to stay humble.
Submission is is daily. Like my submission practice is daily.
I get on my knees and I say, God, I
want your way and not my way. God, forgive me
of my sins and cleanse me of my unrighteousness. That's

(34:13):
what I'm looking for. Like, God, I know you're the way.
I know you're the teacher. And what Garrett's really good
at is coming up with some of his own ways.
So help me follow your way. That is submission.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Right.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
I can get humbled and be like oh yeah, like
Jesus and all that stuff, but without submission, I will
slowly go back to my own ways. And so submission,
and this is this anchor that will keep you in
student mode. The word disciple means student, right, And this
is what Christ said, Go and create disciples, Go create students.
He says, don't just tell people about me, don't get

(34:48):
people to pray a prayer to believe in me. Go
create students. Go create people who will be submitted to
My way for the rest of their life. And that
was what Jesus said. Teach them to become disciples. Teach
them to obey My every command. That is true submission, right,
Like this is in martial arts, you see this. You
have to submit to a teacher. You have to submit
to a master. And if you're if you're in his

(35:10):
training realm right, if you're under his practice, you do
what he says. And if you are truly submitted to
God in God's way, you do what it says. And
that means you've got stuff in your life that is
not submitted to God and you have to continually work
to throw that out. And so that doesn't mean like,
oh well, I just got to go make all the changes,
rip everything out. No, it's a submission practice. You don't learn,

(35:33):
you don't get into martial arts and just learn everything immediately.
It's the continual practice of submission, and then slowly you
receive more and more training. But if you aren't submitted,
the training won't stick in. Right, If you're not submitted
when the master's giving the instruction, what you're going to
do is.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Like I agree with that, I don't agree with that
right well, because humility has to come before submission. For
that exact reason, I heard doctor Robbie say this once,
and as with most things, he says, it's absolutely genius.
Because we think of mission as it's a sign of weakness,
like oh your week, so you got tapped out by
somebody stronger. What it actually is is you're coming under
the mission. It's submission, right. Well, when you become humble,

(36:10):
the opposite of humility is pride, you start to not
be about yourself and you become about something greater. That's
what you're submitting too. You're submitting to Christ, you're submitting
to his plans, his ways, and so now you see
something bigger that is not weakness. That's one of the strongest,
greatest things you could ever do, to come in underneath
a mission that's greater than you and that's why humility
has to come before submission. And then what what all

(36:31):
these are? These first three I feel like are so
blended together, but they come in this order. Is true.
And the next thing that comes after submission is truth.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
And again, this is the formula for change, lasting change. Right,
Like you can, hey, you can go to the conference,
yeah and get all the get all the bullet points.
You can go through it. You can get a real
motivated experience. You can go get around a bunch of
the right people and get you going in the right direction.
And those things are all good. But this is the
formula for lasting change. So first it's amility, then it's submission,

(37:01):
and then the next thing is truth. You have to
have a true So you have to have a source
of truth because without it, eventually you'll begin to question
things again. And well that'll lead you into a lack
of submission that you'll become your own source of truth. Right,
just the same way that Charlie Kirk said, there is
a God and it's not you. There is a truth,

(37:22):
and you're not the writer of it. And if you
think you're the writer of truth, that you are not humble,
you are not submitted, right, you're just following your own
way and you're trying to like maneuver how to get
other people who agree with you and work with the
things that other people are working with. No, you've got
to decide God's way is the true way. And what
this becomes is a foundation for you to actually build

(37:42):
something on. Truth is right, right, principles are truth. Christ
is the son of God who came, who gave his
life for you. This is the truth that you have
to anchor your life on. If you don't understand these things,
whatever you build it will eventually fall down.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, so good.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
So I'll just just say to this you like what
we have the Bible, yeah, right, and also not in
addition to the Bible, but in the other domains. Okay,
the Bible covers our entire life. But you also need
to like I was talking about to one of my
teams this week about this, like you've got to have

(38:18):
the Bible for your business, right, Like you need the Bible,
but I'm talking about you need a source of truth
for your business. What are we actually this is some
of your vision and mission and values for your business.
These are some of the principles, Like what are we
going to continually come back to when we face hard things,
when things don't work out the way that we want
them to. You know what, that happens in my life
all the time. And what I do is I go

(38:39):
back to the work, Right, I go back to God's wordness, say,
what does the word of God say?

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Right?

Speaker 1 (38:43):
That is how you have to have something that when
you're facing the battle. What are we going to come
back to when we go through struggles? What is going
to tell you what to do? Because if you think
you're just going to figure it out on the battlefield,
you are waiting to get destroyed.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah that's so good now, Garrett. We're speaking obviously for
Christian men, and typically you're gonna say, okay, what's your
source of truth? Well, I'm a Bible believing Christian and
that's great, but I really want to highlight the importance.
I look at my own story and I go, you
know what, I had been to Bible College whenever God
broke into my life. I had read the Bible a
lot growing up, and I could tell you I could

(39:18):
quote a lot of scripture. But yet I was sitting
there like absolutely defunct and broken. How does that happen? Well,
it's not just like, hey, you know what, if you
listen this and you go off and you just make
the Bible the source of your life. You can just
sit at home just read the Bible on your own,
You're good. That is not the way God designed it.
You absolutely need to be part of a church and
to be a part of a community of believers, to

(39:39):
be part of the family of Christ, and to be
connected in with those people. These are the people you're
doing life with. They're not people you just see once
a week on a Sunday. These are the people that
you start to go, you know what, You're my people,
You're my tribe. We're going to build life in. And
you need this because there is a If you say like, okay,
the Bible's my source, you have to be you're making
an assumption you don't know, which is that you know
how to rightly understan and interpret it. Which, Hey, guess what,

(40:01):
there's a lot of people out there who know a
lot more than you, and they're still they're still arguing
and confused and unsure about things because it's not as simple.
You're not asking a simple question, So don't ask simple.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
I love the quote that John at that job pastor
Josh has from John MacArthur. Yes, the late John MacArthur
recently passed, who said, I know I'm wrong in my theology.
I just don't know where right. And this was a
man his theology wasn't perfect, but that was a man
who had a heart for God.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Right and so and that's that's for all of us.
So that and so you need those people in your life.
And it's the way God designed it. God designed family
for a reason when he handed down the Ten commandments
and gave Moses all the commands. What he say, talk
about these in your families, talk about them at your tables,
write them on the four like he was saying, you
need to keep having these things in front of you.
You're supposed to teach them to their kids and produce,

(40:47):
and then they go on and produce. And what did
Jesus say? He said, make disciples. This is God's ways
that you would be around other people. And what I've
experienced in my own life, how this looks practically. You
think that you have an idea of what great would
be right whatever wherever you're at, whatever pain you're in,
whatever change you want, you have an idea of what
it will look like when you get there, And the
truth is that it's not going to look like that,

(41:08):
and there's people that can help you see it more clearly.
I think about what Garrett's done for me. I think
about what other brothers have done in my life, where
I will say, like the analogy I use with Garrett
when we're prepping this, if you're shooting yourself in the
foot and your foot hurts every day, your dream is
just to not have your foot hurt. And you go, man,
can you imagine if my foot didn't hurt? And there
might be somebody else that comes along like a Garrett
and goes, hey, guess what, you could run marathons with

(41:30):
that with those feet? But what No, No, I just
want this to stop hurting. Yeah. Yeah, that's like step
one of a fifty six step process. You have no
idea how great it could be, and that's God's greatness,
and so you need people that can help. What I
find is the more I get to know God, the
more depth there is in my relationship, the greater your
vision becomes, the more you see how wide and deep

(41:50):
you know His love is for you, and the God
who's able to do exceedingly abundantly above all we can ask, think,
or imagine the God who says no eye has seen,
no ear has heard, no mind can conceive what God
has in store for those love him. This is the
God who's calling you to greatness, and he's not calling
you on your own. And you need brothers to help
you knock off the blind spots to see the greatness
and to help you mature properly. So just want to
make sure we highlight that in true good Nick.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
So again, there's five pieces and humility and submission. This
is the that's the early stages like Okay, I'm dumb,
I don't know nothing. God your way truth. Right now,
we're getting something to build on. And this is the
shift into in this five step process to where you
start to see things like yes, when you're humble and submitted,
you're not seeing anything work yet you're just like, Okay,

(42:31):
I want things to work.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I know I'm not working, and what's next. Okay.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Truth begins to lay a foundation to what you're doing,
and it's the beginning of the encouraging process of actually
seeing change happen in your life. Because, like I've talked
about this before, one of the greatest like, I don't
need to be motivated. Here's my motivation in life. Those
who are faithful little will become rulers over much. If
you put a seed in the ground and you water

(42:57):
it correctly, like you follow the principles and the science,
it's controls for that seed and that growth. It will
grow every time. That that's truth. That's the power of truth,
and that's a huge encouragement. Right, gravity always works, right,
and so that this is the beginning of truth. Like
principles lie under the truth category. When you start to
see these things, you're like, man, well it's not working today,

(43:19):
but it could. It could work, And this is the
beginning of the encouraging process. So the next step is
right now, you know it could, but you're not necessarily
sure what to do. The next big piece of lasting
change in your life is a sense of purpose. And
this is like the true not motivation, but source of inspiration.
Purpose is understanding that God is a plan for your life.

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What it means is you matter. If we take purpose
out of it, why would you want to be submitted
in the first place?

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Right?

Speaker 1 (43:48):
If you take purpose out of it? And this is
why it's it's the platform that I'm standing on yelling
all the time with people, trying to get them to change.
Is the purpose piece. And then we got to circle
back around humility and submission and truth, but purpose because
a lot of people they think their life doesn't matter.
So if your life doesn't matter, you'll do whatever you want.
That's where most people are at. If you think that

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your money is yours, you'll waste it right, Like it's mine,
I can do whatever I want with it.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Right.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
It's like when i've I've been God's humbled me before
and given me revelation before when I was managing investment,
I realized like, oh my gosh, this doesn't belong to me,
Like I better not mess this up. And when you
start thinking about then God humbled me, it was like, well,
why don't you treat your own money that way? Because
that doesn't belong to you either. And when you realize
your life does not belong to you and there's actually

(44:36):
a plan for your life, you're the last thing you're
thinking about is what do I want to do with it? It's
like what is supposed to happen with this?

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Right?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
That truth and then the sense of purpose, what that
becomes is a sense of duty in your life, like
my life has meaning. There's something that I'm supposed to do.
I mean, you get this. It's such an encouragement and
a forward moving tension factor in your life where it's like,
I have to move forward, I have to grow because
there's something that's coming for me. I've talked about before
how I've had this sandlot feeling in my life knowing

(45:05):
that the pickle is coming and I don't know when
it is and I don't know what it is, but
I've got to get ready for it. Yeah, I have
to train. And so that's what purpose does. Purpose keeps
you moving down the change road, because if it was
just about that, if we end at truth, then you
would think that knowing is everything right and knowing is
just the beginning. Yeah, purpose helps you understand, like I

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have to move forward, I have to change. I have
to grow, not just for me, but for so many
other people that need me.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Yeah. That's so good. Now you touched on it in
the beginning of what you just said, And I want
to circle back around because the number one thing we
get asked about is purpose gecause you know, when you
lack purpose and you've got an eternal call in your life.
It eats at you. And I'm speaking from experience. But
you said you'll shout about purpose, but then you've got
to circle back around. How do you think that that

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can your sense of purpose grow? Because or do you
feel like people try and shortcut like, hey, I want
the sense of purpose, but they've skipped humility, submission and truth.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, because here's the way it works. When I showed,
when I when I show, we live a delusion, right,
We're all living some form of delusion, and we're trying
to get into God's reality. When I put the purpose
mirror in front of people, what it shows them is
a very scary thing. It reminds them of the emptiness
that they hide from. And nothing will humble you and

(46:21):
scare you like emptiness like my life doesn't matter, right?
And when I tell you that your life does matter, right, Like,
if you're willing to hear it, you'll you'll realize the
thing that you actually want to run from the most
is the emptiness in your life. And I tell men
all the time, like I can make one promise to
you about the Gospel is that you'll never know emptiness
if you'll follow God, and that that is better than

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anything else you could possibly face. And so when I
show people that purpose mirror, that's what that's the the
wake up call for them of like, yeah, I don't
want emptiness and that and that starts the humility journey.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Right. That's so good. I want to see what you
thought about how those would relate, because as you were
saying that, I was like, I want to make sure
we pull that out because I think for a lot
of people they want to jump the purpose. But what
you're saying is when you have a true sense of
what that purpose means and what the opposite of it is,
it's so humbling that you kick into this process. You
can't find you can't just jump the step forward.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Here and this again, this is the lasting change process, right,
because if you just like again, purpose is supposed to
reflect back to you your emptiness without God, and then
that starts the humbling process that allows you to go
through all of this. If you just like, oh, I
just got a plan, you're going to run out there
with no truth and no submission, with no humility and realize, oh, well,

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I thought I had a purpose, but nothing works, so
maybe my life doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Right, And then yeah, it's almost like a self fulfilling
prophecy because you tried to skip the order. So that's yeah,
very good. There's a lot. I feel like we could
go off on that, but I'm going to stay focused here.
The very last thing is that when you have all this,
when you have humility, submission, truth, purpose, it leads to
what is actual lasting change, which is consistency.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
And consistency doesn't come from just being disciplined. Right now,
every man must have discipline. You must be discipline. It
does it doesn't work without discipline. I I when I taught.
I've been interviewing a lot of people for our team,
right and I asked them to win. Like one of
my the guys look like I come into these interviews
with guys who are like, you know, senior robotics software engineers.
I don't know nothing about nothing in that category. I like,

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I understand logic really well, and that's about it. I
don't I don't write Python, I don't write you know,
uh go laning code. I don't know nothing about any
of that stuff. But they like all the questions that
I ask. And one of the questions I ask people
is I asked them the winning philosophy question, Well, why
do you win?

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Right, like, hey, don't and I and I and I
give them the cabyt. I said, don't tell me you
work hard? Right, Everyone, everyone in this room works hard, right,
And that's not why we're here. We're not here because
we work hard. We're not going to hire you to
this team because you work hard. That's an assumption. That's
table stakes. Tell me why you win? Why are you
good at anything? And uh, and I get to ask
them that winning philosophy question. Consistency doesn't come from just

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being like, oh, I'm just work hard. I just I'm
just a disciplined person. It's not where it comes from. Uh,
you have to have it to be successful. You have
to work hard to be successful. But really the force
that drives consistency is purpose. If I don't, here's what
will happen. Discipline is making yourself do what you know
you should do. Purpose is reminding yourself why you have

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to and if you'll focus on that part, Like, this
is the analogy I make. If you don't run a
marathon with me tomorrow at four am, something terrible is
going to happen to your family. And that's just an
analogy that strikes us because it's easy for us to
Our brains are hardwired to imagine the negative more than
the positive. So this analogy is striking to people. You

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can imagine how like how you would feel if you
just let something terrible happen to your family, like okay,
I have to, I'd like you wouldn't need to set
an alarm the next day. You probably wouldn't sleep knowing
like this is going to require my best effort and
if I fail at this, something terrible is going to happen. Well,
that's what purpose will do in you, and it'll help
you do that over and over and over again.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Right.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
That's why the things that come out of my mouth
every single day as God is a plan for my life.
Today's the day today matters. The best is yet to come.
I'm continually speaking and reminding myself, hardwiring my brain, my
spirit and anchoring it to this life that there's more
coming for me and today I must train.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah, that example that you give of, like like you said,
of the family, something bad's gonna happen to your family.
What's underlying that is what you want more than just
to be comfortable, is you want to see your family again. Right,
And that's a long term desire. And that's what you're
saying about purpose. When you have that sense of the
eternal and you have that sense that God's calling you
to something greater. In the moment, you don't feel like
doing it, but you're so reminded and you're so conscious

(50:35):
of what actually matters that you're choosing between what is
it the pain of the pain of discipline or the
pain of regret. Right, And so you're looking and you're going, Okay,
I know there's more. I'm going to keep going regardless
of how I feel in the moment. And that's where
that's what breeds consistency and lasting change.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
It's the hero sequence, it's the hero montage. And every
great film what happens the hero sees something terrible that
they have to fix, something's taken away from them, that
they have to go find it again. And so then
the hero gets a purpose and then he says, okay,
so now I must train, now I must grow, And
every great hero film watches a hero go through a

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process of understanding a purpose and a plan, something that's
required of him, his utility, the sense of duty upon him,
and then he says, now I have to train and grow.
And so if you'll get this process right like I
hope you'll know and I'll give it to you like
I give it to so many people. Know that God
is a great plan for your life. There is a
purpose for you. So go, let's go through the process

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so we can actually get to the end of the film.
Christ is the hero of our life. But Christ has
given you the opportunity to play your part heroically. And
that's what I hope this podcast does for every single person,
inspires them heroically to live the life that God has
called them to live. So know that God has a
plan for your life and decide to be open to change,
be humble, don't be the man on the range thinking

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that you've got it all figured out, and be submitted.
Find a teacher, find a process, find a people, find
a mentor or find a group, and ultimately and most importantly,
find God and submit yourself to him. Understand his truth,
understand principles, understand what governs outcomes, and know that. Then
from that place, bill on the plan that God has

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for your life. And just like the Romans twelve process
talks about that it is a process of transformation, and
as you grow and change, more purposes revealed to you.
And I promise you the greater sense of purpose that
you have in your life. The more you're feeling that way,
the harder and harder, and the more consistently you will train.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
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