October 23, 2025 • 22 mins
In this episode of The Impossible Life Podcast, Garrett and Nick unpack the difference between hype and conviction — and why most people confuse the two.
They discuss Warren Buffet’s insight about intelligence, energy, and integrity, breaking down why energy without integrity is dangerous and how real enthusiasm comes from a foundation of truth and belief.
Garrett shares how his deepest convictions come from God’s Word and why faith-based enthusiasm has endurance — while hype always fades under pressure.
If you’ve ever wondered how to keep your passion alive without burning out or chasing trends, this episode gives you the blueprint for energy that lasts and purpose that stands firm through adversity.
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They discuss Warren Buffet’s insight about intelligence, energy, and integrity, breaking down why energy without integrity is dangerous and how real enthusiasm comes from a foundation of truth and belief.
Garrett shares how his deepest convictions come from God’s Word and why faith-based enthusiasm has endurance — while hype always fades under pressure.
If you’ve ever wondered how to keep your passion alive without burning out or chasing trends, this episode gives you the blueprint for energy that lasts and purpose that stands firm through adversity.
Apply for the Mindset Mastery Scholarship by January 6th
Join a group of likeminded Impossible Life listeners in our FREE Skool community by clicking here.
Get the Purpose Playbook by clicking here
Get the FREE Basic Discipline Training 30 Day Program by clicking here
Join us in Mindset Mastery by clicking here
If you're a man that wants real accountability and training to be a leader, click here.
Level up your nutrition with IDLife by clicking here
GET IN TOUCH
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Email - info@theimpossible.life
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That's impossible. Let me tell you what I believe. It's
your weakness, it's not your technique. Don't think you know
The Impossible Life Podcast and yes, sitting on a winning lottery.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Second, an idea that is fully formed, fully understood, that sticks.
This is the Impossible Life Podcast because Nick and I
are attempting to live impossible lives. What we know is
that nothing is impossible. So instead of using impossible as
an excuse to not try, we'll use the pursuit of
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impossible as an accelerant for greatness. If something's never been
done before, that just means it's unexplored. If they tell
you it's too hard, it's just waiting to be simplified.
Impossible as a default label used by uncourageous people unwilling
to take a risk. The real truth is this. The
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solution to any impossible task starts with this question, If
I had to, what would it take? What would it take?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Welcome to another episode of the Impossible Life Podcast. I'm
your co host next Surface, and I'm looking across as
a man who was once convicted in the state of
Hawaii as a thirteen year old boy for starting a
massive ruckus. That's right, friends, kart Anklebak, a man who
was later credited as the inventor of Hawaiian punch.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I actually did not know where you were going. You
know what, Gee, you got me on that one. Hey,
I'll take it out of me.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's like I like to know that two hundred fifty
three episodes in, I can still throw a curveball. All right? Gee?
That was that was a change up. Yeah, Actually that's
you're right. It was a change up. Yeah, there you go.
I thought I was sitting on the heat. I do it,
all right. So gee, today you said on our recent podcast,
You're like, hey, we should do something on enthusiasm. We
should do a podcast on enthusiasm. And I said, noted,
And I wrote it down in my little Impossible Life
(01:56):
Ideas book, And here we are and we're gonna talk
about enthusiasm.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And maketually really excited to talk about this one. I
have a great deal of enthusiasm about this episode. I
don't know if you can tell by my voice.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
If you're watching the video, there is a glint in
his eye that is rare for me.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
There is so much enthusiasm right now, and you might
be wondering, who is this unenthused person talking to me
about enthusiasm. Enthusiasm isn't what you think it is. That's
what we're gonna jump into. There is a quote, and
I thought it was from somebody else, and then I
looked it up to double check, and of course, to
no surprise, to no surprise, one of the truly wise
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men of our time, Warren Buffett. He was talking about
like teams and recruiting people for his companies and stuff
like that. And look, the reason Warren Buffett I consider
him to be so wise is not about dollar amount
and it's not even industry right that they've been Berkshire
has been fantastic at picking businesses that they could grow.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But to do that.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
As consistently as they've done it, they also know a
lot about people and winning teams. Yeah, okay, And this
is what Warren Buffett said about great teams. He says,
if you're looking for three things and in person, in
a person right for people you want on your team,
you're looking for three things intelligence, enthusiasm or energy and integrity,
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and if they don't have the last one, the first
two will kill you. And I thought that was so great,
and really it's all three of these things. If you
want to have a great person on your team, you
need intelligence, right or a form of high intellect. You
need energy or enthusiasm, and you need integrity right, and
if you're missing any one of the three, it's not
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a great combination. Okay, let's talk about intelligence and enthusiasm
but no integrity. This is a very dangerous individual to
have on your team.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
It's the financial industry.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
It's Gord Gecko, right, yeah, right, that's a very dangerous
individual to have on your team. Now, think about intelligence
and integrity but no enthusiasm.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, that's uh man, that's the person that you want
to have the conversation with, but they're not going to
get out of bed. Yeah, well they're not going to
do anything.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Right. And then think about someone with you know, low
or no intelligence but energy and enthusiasm and integrity. The
person you want to have dig digging ditches for you?
I guess no, absolutely hire that person. But they're they're
not going to be, you know, a part of a
big team. They're not going to be an a player
for your team. You need people who can solve problems, right,
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not just that that's someone that you can trust to
do exactly as you're told.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And this is a I don't think.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
We've ever I don't think we've ever talked about this
in the podcast before. This is this is something that
I coach on. That's that's biblical. Is two different types
of people in your organization of sons and servants.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I think we ever talked about that on another podcast
or only with some of our priorities. We'll need we'll
need to do that. Uh, add that to my list.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
But the energy or enthusiasm and integrity that that is
a servant mentality, right, And there's it's it's not there's
nothing wrong with that, but you need to develop the
person and that and we're not going to get into
you talking about intelligence today, but the way that I
look at intelligence in this quote, it is something that
is developable.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Okay, I was going to ask that.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And that's growth mind it's not i Q, right, which
we've talked about, which also you can improve your like
exactly and that's growth mindset, right, Like you can if
you want to be smarter, choose to be smarter.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
One one of the our friend we call him counsel.
I don't know, I you know, Noah works with me
at Union now, and I've chosen not to call him counsel.
I've let him try to outrun that nickname.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
That's probably for his best. It is for his best.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And one of the things I said to Noah was
I said, uh, you're gonna be around some really smart people.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I expect you to get smarter here. Yeah. I bet
he loved that.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Just like it's growth, it's growth mindset, and I need
you to be your best. But anyways, I want to
talk about energy and enthusiasm today and really what that means,
because any missing any of these three things, any one
of those three things, it's going to make you deficient
as a team member. And if you are building a
great team, if you're doing something great, you're going to
want people that have these three things on your team.
(06:01):
And I don't think I need to, at least for today,
define integrity or define intelligence, right, But let's talk about
what energy and enthusiasm is. Like I said, I think
I actually have a lot of enthusiasm. But if you
were asking an average person on the strife character true,
just an average person. If you and I went and
people on the street, and it's like talk to Garrett,
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talk to Nick, who has more enthusiasm, right, and not
that this is a competition, even though everything is competition.
I want like ninety out of one hundred people are
gonna say, oh, Nick has way more.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Even your admitting that you lost in this fictional competition.
I like this. This is good.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Well, actually, what I'm saying is that all the ninety
nine out of one hundred people are wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Shocker, Garrett is gonna go ahead and say, you ninety nine,
you're all wrong. Okay, so I won in this fictional competition,
but you still won in your head, absolutely in this
fictional competition. Okay, I just want this. This sounds very realistic. Okay, good,
So let's talk.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
About what enthusiasm and energy really is, because that's not
I'll let's let's look at this way, conviction versus hype.
This is the way that I want to define enthusiasm
and energy. A lot of people think that energy and
enthusiasm is hype. I get people who ask me to
come speak to their teams, like, hey, hype up my team.
I can do that, but you actually don't want me
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to do that, Right, it's not worth what you're going
to pay me to be here. What's worth what you're
going to pay me to be here is if I
can help your team develop some conviction that will last. Okay,
the motivation is very short term.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
My joke is I can shoot at people and that
will motivate them, and that doesn't cost very much. And
as soon as the motivation is gone me shooting at you,
your motivation is gone. Right, And motivation does not last.
Motivation is not based on any sort of truth. It's
not baiting. We'll talk about the where conviction comes from.
Hype is just a form of excitement and energy, but
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it doesn't last. It doesn't have a center to sustain itself.
You can get a burst of energy, but if you
don't have something that's like creating energy within you, it's
very short term. And so here's where these you can
get fooled into thinking that someone has all three of
these characteristics. Yeah, people can put And this might be
a fun other episode for us to talk about.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I could talk about how.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
People can fool you and their intelligence, how people can
fool you in their integrity. I'm going tell you how
they can fool you in the energy and enthusiasm category.
Is they they show up really excited.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, but that.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Here's where that goes away is when they get punched
in the face, when they face any sort of obstacle,
when they go up against something that is up against them,
you'll see people that their excitement is absolutely gone. Everybody
likes winning until they lose, right, and then lenning, and
then winning has a price, and then some people aren't
as excited about winning anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
We see this all the time. It might have been,
don't we. It's kind of like I've been around for
five years now, and the rule of thumb is if
somebody comes in hot, they'll leave hot as well. Yeah,
because you'll find guys that like, hey, I never met
you before. In two weeks they're like, man, I'm all in.
This place is the greatest place I've ever been in
my life. And I just I understand why your dad
like it used to. It offended me the first time,
and then I get it. He just goes We'll see,
(09:07):
because that's exactly what you said. Let's see what happens
whenever you face some adversity. Now, the interesting thing what
you said about how hype and enthusiasm is basically enthusiasm
without intelligence or integrity. Now, remember what Garrett said, that
intelligence can be developed. So this is you gaining knowledge.
This is not you like, oh, I learned how to
you know, do quantum physics and reason from the fourth dimension.
Like I'm making this up as something because that's what
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people think of intelligence is a lot of times if
you don't have a growth mindset, you think are limited.
This is you gaining knowledge, so that with knowledge comes certainty,
and if you have a good set of knowledge, then
you can have authority. Right. What we see so often
in society, specifically in politics, in the twenty four hour
news cycle is all hype. Right, It's the most important
thing in the world until twenty four hours later when
no one's talking about it anymore, And like, so we
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I feel like and they come from credible sources. These
are big name politicians. People are backed off of hype
all the time, and I almost feel like we become
desensitized to calling it hype and it's like, oh, it's
a twenty four hour news cycle. It's like, no, if
it was really that, if it was really something that
had like what you're talking about, it stays in part.
I mean, Charlie Kirk has been was shot? What is
it were? Late October he's been shot over like a
(10:13):
month and a half ago. The wave of that is
still is still going, and that's a wave that's been
going for a long time. That wasn't just Charlie because
September tenth is the day before September eleventh, right, And
you get my point though, because so many other things
happen and it's like the biggest deal until it's not.
And people, you know, people aren't talking about the hurricane
victims two days after the hurricanes happened, which is awful
because those people are still having their lives wrecked. So
I just wanted to make the point because I think
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hype is everywhere. Conviction is rare, and I want you
to get a little bit deeper into how the three
of these combined to make conviction.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, so think about this for developing energy and for
developing conviction. Let's say you have coming back to this
interesting tride that we're talking about today, intelligence, integrity, and enthusiasm.
Let's say I give you the cure for cancer, right
like I've bottled it up, I've written down I'm from
the future.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Nick.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Here it is. This is the cure for all of cancer.
If you have any sense of integrity. You would not
hide that or throw it away. And if you have
even the least level of intelligence, you'll start thinking about like, well,
I got to not just I gotta do something, but
here's how I'm going to do it. What I gave
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you when I gave you the cure for cancer was
a sense of duty and.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
A sense of purpose.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Now, no, I'm supposed to do the right thing, and
I can think I have the ability to solve problems
and work through challenges. And now what just got placed
upon me was a sense of duty. I've been given something,
this cure for cancer, that I have to do something
with this right and do you And that's what you're saying,
enthusiast saying, this is the source of enthusiasm. Very good
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sense of purpose. When you have a truth, when you
have a purpose, when you have something inside of you
that is driving you, it will create this energy. So
what if I gave you the cure for cancer and
Nick goes out and tries to tell people he has
the cure for cancer, right, like, say, God gave it
to you, like you know, they're not like I think
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you know. And people went out and people said said,
you're stupid. People said, we don't want your help. People said,
you're wrong, right, that's not going to help people. Would
if you knew it was the cure for cancer, would
you not get up the same day? Then the next day,
just like I got to go tell other people, I
got to go find the person. If you had a
sense of integrity, you knew you had to do something
with that, and you had a measure of intelligence, it's like, well,
(12:36):
those guys are just idiots, and then go talk to
the next people, right, Like, Okay, I'll keep going. It
is this sense of purpose and the truth knowing that
it really is the cure for cancer, that you've developed
a conviction like I must tell people about this, I
must take this solution that I have to the world.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
That's so interesting, man, because how many people live with
a sense of conviction when you divine to find it
like that, Like you have conviction? G When when did
you first start to feel Do you remember when you
first started to feel a heavytion?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You know, I can tell you there's been a few
moments in my life that have given me a sense
of purpose. There's been places where I felt it, But
I can tell you where I developed the most conviction
in my life is right because there's the sense of purpose.
And honestly, I'm kind of just putting these two things
together in this moment. There's this sense of purpose, like
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I feel like I had that sense of purpose first
in life, right, and that's part.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Of the enthusiasm. But the second piece is truth.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
And really where I developed conviction in my life is
post military, where I just developed a new hunger for
the Lord and just like I've felt like this is
what I was supposed to do, which is led me
to where I'm at today. It's what helped develop mighty
men seeing God have an impact on my life. Like
I said, you know what, if I'm gonna do that,
if I'm gonna follow God like i've been I've known
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God my whole life, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna
do it all the way right right like I'm done
being a seal. So what's next, I'm gonna be like
a seal. God, I'm going to do like I'm gonna
do this all the way. I know how to train,
I know how to fight, I know how to become great.
I'm going to become great for God. And so I
just chose to dive into that point, and I said God, like,
I'm going to follow your process. I learned in the military.
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Don't come up with your own plans. Submit to the process.
Do what we tell you to do, and it works.
Try to do it your own way, you'll get washed
out of this place. And so I looked for what
that was in scripture, in the template, and it really
is submission to God, like truly stand on God's full authority.
Don't do it halfway. Learn plenty of lessons about that
in the military as well. You can't do it halfway.
(14:36):
And when I really began to stand on the word
of God that way in my life, where I already
had a sense of purpose in my life, but then
I felt like I had truth right and like this
is God's way, this is what God says.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That's where it.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And I would tell you I've always had not always,
but for a long time in my life, like I've
been a person with enthusiasm, and I think that comes
from the integrity and intelligence aspect, knowing like, Okay, God's
given me a lot, I got to do something with that.
But that enthusiasm has developed as my conviction has developed,
and the conviction has developed or the conviction developed as
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I grew in truth right and understanding this is God's
way and I don't care who tells me I'm wrong, right,
I know what the truth is. Yeah, that's so interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So like it's almost like you were the integrity portion
of you was living purposely, like you knew God had
a purpose, and then the intelligent intelligence came from like
six years of getting beat downs and trained as a seal.
And then as you matured, you continue to add to
that intelligence. And then that's when you feel like you're saying,
the two came together. I just want to make sure
I'm understanding right, And that's when you had the deep conviction.
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It's so funny because you're at the point I would
like you couldn't not do what you're doing. And I
think about that scripture. It's it's PAULI. He says, for
when I preach the Gospel, I cannot boast, since I
am compelled to preach, Woe to me if I do
not preach the gospel. And that's the one Corinthians nineteen sixteen.
And I think that's the sense of purpose.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
It is it's the integrity, and it's the intellect that
God's given him right. He had already walked with all
the Pharisees, He'd walked with all the scholars right, he
knew what was right. He had a sense of integrity.
I must do what is right. And now I know
what I'm supposed to do right. And I think now
about the disciples as well. When Jesus goes, do you
want to go too? And they go, where else would
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we go? You have the words of life.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Now, if he would have asked them that at the beginning,
I don't know what they would have said. And that's
so like the reason I'm making this point. I don't
want people to be like, oh my gosh, I need
to have conviction, because here's what will happen. Here's how
here's how clever the enemy is the accuser. Satan stands
for accuser. I'm not one of these guys that likes
talk about the devil all the time, but this is
what the accuser will do. You're not really convicted, and
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so now you're like, man, I've got to get more conviction.
And you know what I'm going to do. I'm going
to strain that conviction out and I'm just gonna like,
I gotta be convicted. I gotta be convicted. And guess
what you're now You're in your own power again. You're
the source of conviction, right. It is truth, right, and
so if you don't feel it, no one's taking it
away from you. You can't erode God's truth. Right.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
If you don't have it, it's because you you need
to go get it from the Word of God.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yes, and that's what I wanted to get to. So
someone's going, man, I want to develop conviction. First of all,
be encouraged. It's it's something that develops, right, It's something
that grows. We talked about Paul, we talked about the apostles,
we talked about your own example. I hope people are
taking that like, you know, these three elements are not
things that you have like a reading on it. And
you're like, when I get to level fifty, that's when
the conviction. It's like, no, you need to develop these things.
So from a place of integrity, g Like, if someone's going, Okay,
(17:25):
you just said, need to read the Word of God, right,
because that's how you're going to grow in what we're calling.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
It's well, it's it's read it, but then fully submit
to it. Yes, stand on it, right, the same way
that I have like a strong fear detector. Right, I
have that light detector because it's my filter. What again,
what I learned in the Seal Teams is do exactly
as I tell you to do, and this will work.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Right. Follow the manual, follow the training, and you will succeed. Right.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
If you do not follow the training completely, you will fail.
And so for me, when I again, like it's one
of the scriptures I first began to preach and had
revelation on like many many years ago, Go two Timothy
one seven. God has not giving you a strike of fear, right,
And so what does that mean? If that means if
there's any fear in my life, it's not from God, right, Like,
fear is not something that I'm supposed to have in
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my life. And so I took that scripture and I said,
I'm going to remove every ounce of fear in my life.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Otherwise you're like, yeah, that's that's true, that is what
God says. Well, I'll just you know, here's my buddy,
you know, Tom, captain of fear. And here's my buddy Jerry.
He's he's friendly fear, and we just all hang out together.
I know the Word of God says that, you know,
I'm not supposed to be afraid, but I've known these
guys for a long.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Time, and that and that, so this is I think
that's so interesting what I love about wisdom. I found
this over and over again. When you have wisdom revealed,
you go, oh, of course, it feels like it's been
there the whole time.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
It's so so bad as simple as half of proverbs
don't sleep with prostitutes.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Hey you mailed that part. I'm good on that one.
But but but no, but on a serious note, because
our natural tendency is what am I missing? What do
I need to go do? That's why I'm saying like,
what's the next step? Well, here's the next step. Take
what you already know. And besides, before going like what
else do I need to do next? Are you doing
what you know to do? Because I think that that
is a question that if you can ask yourself that
from a place of objective judgment and not like beat
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yourself down, but you actually look, I think the answer
for most people is no, because there's so many things
where we're like, well I know, but ah, that right,
And it's like, are you doing what you know to do.
I think if you just do that, that's what's called
being faithful. You talked about developing integrity, that's being faithful,
and I think God rewards that and that's how you
then begin to grow. Because man, it's like you know,
many will proclaim his own goodness, but a faithful man
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who can.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Find having the cure for cancer would test your integrity
super hard. Yeah, it would test your integrity and your
sense of work ethic and your faithfulness.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
If you have this thing that the whole world needs,
how hard are you going to fight to deliver it?
It would also test you and opportunities to serve yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Right. Well, here's the thing though, Gee, you said that
it's the result of it comes from belief, and like
you're using this cancer example in case anybody not putting
tune in to two together. Guess what, you're a follower
of Jesus. You have a cure that every person out
there needs. This is what Garrett's saying to you in
a not very veiled analogy. And so you so always
say that your discipleship philosophy is if you knew what
(20:13):
I knew, you'd live like I live that's a very
certain place and I love that thought process. So I
hope that this episode is challenging.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
And for those who don't, that's it is my philosophy.
If you knew what I knew, you do what I do.
And I know that's only ninety nine percent true. What
I know is that there's some people that will deny it,
and that and it is. God is going to deal
with those people and I will. I will pray for
their soul. But for everyone else, I know what God
has given me. I know what God's put me on
(20:41):
the earth to do, and what that conviction turns into
for me is a great I wake up every morning
with a great amount of energy. When my body is tired,
I'm thinking, like what do I And it's why I've
also gotten into personal health, because I'm thinking, how do
I get more life out of the time that I have.
I guess I have to sleep at some point, But
I wake up every single day with a great amount
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of energy and enthusiasm because with this sense of purpose,
with this understanding, I've got to be faithful with what
God's given me. I want to do what's right before
the Lord. God has given me a measure of intelligence.
I'm going to use that to deploy my skill sets
and with this sense of purpose, with this understanding of
truth that has become conviction of my life. I wake
up every single day and I know that I must
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drive the ball forward. And if I'm not, I'm denying
the truth. If I'm not moving the ball forward, I'm
not operating with integrity. If I'm not moving the ball forward,
I have a lack of faithfulness in my life. So
just decide for yourself that if you feel like you
have any lack of energy, you're going to go back
to the word of God. Continue to stand on the truth.
We talk on this podcast all the time about where
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a sense of purpose comes from. If you haven't gotten
that far yet, keep following along with us. Learn what
it means to have a sense of purpose. But when
you have purpose and when you have truth, you will
run infinitely.
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Second, an idea that is fully formed, fully understood, that sticks.
This is the Impossible Life Podcast because Nick and I
are attempting to live impossible lives. What we know is
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impossible as an accelerant for greatness. If something's never been
done before, that just means it's unexplored. If they tell
you it's too hard, it's just waiting to be simplified.
Impossible as a default label used by uncourageous people unwilling
to take a risk. The real truth is this. The
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solution to any impossible task starts with this question, If
I had to, what would it take? What would it take?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Welcome to another episode of the Impossible Life Podcast. I'm
your co host next Surface, and I'm looking across as
a man who was once convicted in the state of
Hawaii as a thirteen year old boy for starting a
massive ruckus. That's right, friends, kart Anklebak, a man who
was later credited as the inventor of Hawaiian punch.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I actually did not know where you were going. You
know what, Gee, you got me on that one. Hey,
I'll take it out of me.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's like I like to know that two hundred fifty
three episodes in, I can still throw a curveball. All right? Gee?
That was that was a change up. Yeah, Actually that's
you're right. It was a change up. Yeah, there you go.
I thought I was sitting on the heat. I do it,
all right. So gee, today you said on our recent podcast,
You're like, hey, we should do something on enthusiasm. We
should do a podcast on enthusiasm. And I said, noted,
And I wrote it down in my little Impossible Life
(01:56):
Ideas book, And here we are and we're gonna talk
about enthusiasm.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And maketually really excited to talk about this one. I
have a great deal of enthusiasm about this episode. I
don't know if you can tell by my voice.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
If you're watching the video, there is a glint in
his eye that is rare for me.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
There is so much enthusiasm right now, and you might
be wondering, who is this unenthused person talking to me
about enthusiasm. Enthusiasm isn't what you think it is. That's
what we're gonna jump into. There is a quote, and
I thought it was from somebody else, and then I
looked it up to double check, and of course, to
no surprise, to no surprise, one of the truly wise
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men of our time, Warren Buffett. He was talking about
like teams and recruiting people for his companies and stuff
like that. And look, the reason Warren Buffett I consider
him to be so wise is not about dollar amount
and it's not even industry right that they've been Berkshire
has been fantastic at picking businesses that they could grow.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But to do that.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
As consistently as they've done it, they also know a
lot about people and winning teams. Yeah, okay, And this
is what Warren Buffett said about great teams. He says,
if you're looking for three things and in person, in
a person right for people you want on your team,
you're looking for three things intelligence, enthusiasm or energy and integrity,
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and if they don't have the last one, the first
two will kill you. And I thought that was so great,
and really it's all three of these things. If you
want to have a great person on your team, you
need intelligence, right or a form of high intellect. You
need energy or enthusiasm, and you need integrity right, and
if you're missing any one of the three, it's not
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a great combination. Okay, let's talk about intelligence and enthusiasm
but no integrity. This is a very dangerous individual to
have on your team.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
It's the financial industry.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
It's Gord Gecko, right, yeah, right, that's a very dangerous
individual to have on your team. Now, think about intelligence
and integrity but no enthusiasm.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, that's uh man, that's the person that you want
to have the conversation with, but they're not going to
get out of bed. Yeah, well they're not going to
do anything.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Right. And then think about someone with you know, low
or no intelligence but energy and enthusiasm and integrity. The
person you want to have dig digging ditches for you?
I guess no, absolutely hire that person. But they're they're
not going to be, you know, a part of a
big team. They're not going to be an a player
for your team. You need people who can solve problems, right,
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not just that that's someone that you can trust to
do exactly as you're told.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And this is a I don't think.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
We've ever I don't think we've ever talked about this
in the podcast before. This is this is something that
I coach on. That's that's biblical. Is two different types
of people in your organization of sons and servants.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I think we ever talked about that on another podcast
or only with some of our priorities. We'll need we'll
need to do that. Uh, add that to my list.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
But the energy or enthusiasm and integrity that that is
a servant mentality, right, And there's it's it's not there's
nothing wrong with that, but you need to develop the
person and that and we're not going to get into
you talking about intelligence today, but the way that I
look at intelligence in this quote, it is something that
is developable.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Okay, I was going to ask that.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And that's growth mind it's not i Q, right, which
we've talked about, which also you can improve your like
exactly and that's growth mindset, right, Like you can if
you want to be smarter, choose to be smarter.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
One one of the our friend we call him counsel.
I don't know, I you know, Noah works with me
at Union now, and I've chosen not to call him counsel.
I've let him try to outrun that nickname.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
That's probably for his best. It is for his best.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And one of the things I said to Noah was
I said, uh, you're gonna be around some really smart people.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I expect you to get smarter here. Yeah. I bet
he loved that.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Just like it's growth, it's growth mindset, and I need
you to be your best. But anyways, I want to
talk about energy and enthusiasm today and really what that means,
because any missing any of these three things, any one
of those three things, it's going to make you deficient
as a team member. And if you are building a
great team, if you're doing something great, you're going to
want people that have these three things on your team.
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And I don't think I need to, at least for today,
define integrity or define intelligence, right, But let's talk about
what energy and enthusiasm is. Like I said, I think
I actually have a lot of enthusiasm. But if you
were asking an average person on the strife character true,
just an average person. If you and I went and
people on the street, and it's like talk to Garrett,
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talk to Nick, who has more enthusiasm, right, and not
that this is a competition, even though everything is competition.
I want like ninety out of one hundred people are
gonna say, oh, Nick has way more.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Even your admitting that you lost in this fictional competition.
I like this. This is good.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Well, actually, what I'm saying is that all the ninety
nine out of one hundred people are wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Shocker, Garrett is gonna go ahead and say, you ninety nine,
you're all wrong. Okay, so I won in this fictional competition,
but you still won in your head, absolutely in this
fictional competition. Okay, I just want this. This sounds very realistic. Okay, good,
So let's talk.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
About what enthusiasm and energy really is, because that's not
I'll let's let's look at this way, conviction versus hype.
This is the way that I want to define enthusiasm
and energy. A lot of people think that energy and
enthusiasm is hype. I get people who ask me to
come speak to their teams, like, hey, hype up my team.
I can do that, but you actually don't want me
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to do that, Right, it's not worth what you're going
to pay me to be here. What's worth what you're
going to pay me to be here is if I
can help your team develop some conviction that will last. Okay,
the motivation is very short term.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
My joke is I can shoot at people and that
will motivate them, and that doesn't cost very much. And
as soon as the motivation is gone me shooting at you,
your motivation is gone. Right, And motivation does not last.
Motivation is not based on any sort of truth. It's
not baiting. We'll talk about the where conviction comes from.
Hype is just a form of excitement and energy, but
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it doesn't last. It doesn't have a center to sustain itself.
You can get a burst of energy, but if you
don't have something that's like creating energy within you, it's
very short term. And so here's where these you can
get fooled into thinking that someone has all three of
these characteristics. Yeah, people can put And this might be
a fun other episode for us to talk about.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I could talk about how.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
People can fool you and their intelligence, how people can
fool you in their integrity. I'm going tell you how
they can fool you in the energy and enthusiasm category.
Is they they show up really excited.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, but that.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Here's where that goes away is when they get punched
in the face, when they face any sort of obstacle,
when they go up against something that is up against them,
you'll see people that their excitement is absolutely gone. Everybody
likes winning until they lose, right, and then lenning, and
then winning has a price, and then some people aren't
as excited about winning anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
We see this all the time. It might have been,
don't we. It's kind of like I've been around for
five years now, and the rule of thumb is if
somebody comes in hot, they'll leave hot as well. Yeah,
because you'll find guys that like, hey, I never met
you before. In two weeks they're like, man, I'm all in.
This place is the greatest place I've ever been in
my life. And I just I understand why your dad
like it used to. It offended me the first time,
and then I get it. He just goes We'll see,
(09:07):
because that's exactly what you said. Let's see what happens
whenever you face some adversity. Now, the interesting thing what
you said about how hype and enthusiasm is basically enthusiasm
without intelligence or integrity. Now, remember what Garrett said, that
intelligence can be developed. So this is you gaining knowledge.
This is not you like, oh, I learned how to
you know, do quantum physics and reason from the fourth dimension.
Like I'm making this up as something because that's what
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people think of intelligence is a lot of times if
you don't have a growth mindset, you think are limited.
This is you gaining knowledge, so that with knowledge comes certainty,
and if you have a good set of knowledge, then
you can have authority. Right. What we see so often
in society, specifically in politics, in the twenty four hour
news cycle is all hype. Right, It's the most important
thing in the world until twenty four hours later when
no one's talking about it anymore, And like, so we
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I feel like and they come from credible sources. These
are big name politicians. People are backed off of hype
all the time, and I almost feel like we become
desensitized to calling it hype and it's like, oh, it's
a twenty four hour news cycle. It's like, no, if
it was really that, if it was really something that
had like what you're talking about, it stays in part.
I mean, Charlie Kirk has been was shot? What is
it were? Late October he's been shot over like a
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month and a half ago. The wave of that is
still is still going, and that's a wave that's been
going for a long time. That wasn't just Charlie because
September tenth is the day before September eleventh, right, And
you get my point though, because so many other things
happen and it's like the biggest deal until it's not.
And people, you know, people aren't talking about the hurricane
victims two days after the hurricanes happened, which is awful
because those people are still having their lives wrecked. So
I just wanted to make the point because I think
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hype is everywhere. Conviction is rare, and I want you
to get a little bit deeper into how the three
of these combined to make conviction.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, so think about this for developing energy and for
developing conviction. Let's say you have coming back to this
interesting tride that we're talking about today, intelligence, integrity, and enthusiasm.
Let's say I give you the cure for cancer, right
like I've bottled it up, I've written down I'm from
the future.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Nick.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Here it is. This is the cure for all of cancer.
If you have any sense of integrity. You would not
hide that or throw it away. And if you have
even the least level of intelligence, you'll start thinking about like, well,
I got to not just I gotta do something, but
here's how I'm going to do it. What I gave
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you when I gave you the cure for cancer was
a sense of duty and.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
A sense of purpose.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Now, no, I'm supposed to do the right thing, and
I can think I have the ability to solve problems
and work through challenges. And now what just got placed
upon me was a sense of duty. I've been given something,
this cure for cancer, that I have to do something
with this right and do you And that's what you're saying,
enthusiast saying, this is the source of enthusiasm. Very good
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sense of purpose. When you have a truth, when you
have a purpose, when you have something inside of you
that is driving you, it will create this energy. So
what if I gave you the cure for cancer and
Nick goes out and tries to tell people he has
the cure for cancer, right, like, say, God gave it
to you, like you know, they're not like I think
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you know. And people went out and people said said,
you're stupid. People said, we don't want your help. People said,
you're wrong, right, that's not going to help people. Would
if you knew it was the cure for cancer, would
you not get up the same day? Then the next day,
just like I got to go tell other people, I
got to go find the person. If you had a
sense of integrity, you knew you had to do something
with that, and you had a measure of intelligence, it's like, well,
(12:36):
those guys are just idiots, and then go talk to
the next people, right, Like, Okay, I'll keep going. It
is this sense of purpose and the truth knowing that
it really is the cure for cancer, that you've developed
a conviction like I must tell people about this, I
must take this solution that I have to the world.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
That's so interesting, man, because how many people live with
a sense of conviction when you divine to find it
like that, Like you have conviction? G When when did
you first start to feel Do you remember when you
first started to feel a heavytion?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You know, I can tell you there's been a few
moments in my life that have given me a sense
of purpose. There's been places where I felt it, But
I can tell you where I developed the most conviction
in my life is right because there's the sense of purpose.
And honestly, I'm kind of just putting these two things
together in this moment. There's this sense of purpose, like
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I feel like I had that sense of purpose first
in life, right, and that's part.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Of the enthusiasm. But the second piece is truth.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
And really where I developed conviction in my life is
post military, where I just developed a new hunger for
the Lord and just like I've felt like this is
what I was supposed to do, which is led me
to where I'm at today. It's what helped develop mighty
men seeing God have an impact on my life. Like
I said, you know what, if I'm gonna do that,
if I'm gonna follow God like i've been I've known
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God my whole life, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna
do it all the way right right like I'm done
being a seal. So what's next, I'm gonna be like
a seal. God, I'm going to do like I'm gonna
do this all the way. I know how to train,
I know how to fight, I know how to become great.
I'm going to become great for God. And so I
just chose to dive into that point, and I said God, like,
I'm going to follow your process. I learned in the military.
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Don't come up with your own plans. Submit to the process.
Do what we tell you to do, and it works.
Try to do it your own way, you'll get washed
out of this place. And so I looked for what
that was in scripture, in the template, and it really
is submission to God, like truly stand on God's full authority.
Don't do it halfway. Learn plenty of lessons about that
in the military as well. You can't do it halfway.
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And when I really began to stand on the word
of God that way in my life, where I already
had a sense of purpose in my life, but then
I felt like I had truth right and like this
is God's way, this is what God says.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That's where it.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And I would tell you I've always had not always,
but for a long time in my life, like I've
been a person with enthusiasm, and I think that comes
from the integrity and intelligence aspect, knowing like, Okay, God's
given me a lot, I got to do something with that.
But that enthusiasm has developed as my conviction has developed,
and the conviction has developed or the conviction developed as
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I grew in truth right and understanding this is God's
way and I don't care who tells me I'm wrong, right,
I know what the truth is. Yeah, that's so interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So like it's almost like you were the integrity portion
of you was living purposely, like you knew God had
a purpose, and then the intelligent intelligence came from like
six years of getting beat downs and trained as a seal.
And then as you matured, you continue to add to
that intelligence. And then that's when you feel like you're saying,
the two came together. I just want to make sure
I'm understanding right, And that's when you had the deep conviction.
(15:40):
It's so funny because you're at the point I would
like you couldn't not do what you're doing. And I
think about that scripture. It's it's PAULI. He says, for
when I preach the Gospel, I cannot boast, since I
am compelled to preach, Woe to me if I do
not preach the gospel. And that's the one Corinthians nineteen sixteen.
And I think that's the sense of purpose.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
It is it's the integrity, and it's the intellect that
God's given him right. He had already walked with all
the Pharisees, He'd walked with all the scholars right, he
knew what was right. He had a sense of integrity.
I must do what is right. And now I know
what I'm supposed to do right. And I think now
about the disciples as well. When Jesus goes, do you
want to go too? And they go, where else would
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we go? You have the words of life.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Now, if he would have asked them that at the beginning,
I don't know what they would have said. And that's
so like the reason I'm making this point. I don't
want people to be like, oh my gosh, I need
to have conviction, because here's what will happen. Here's how
here's how clever the enemy is the accuser. Satan stands
for accuser. I'm not one of these guys that likes
talk about the devil all the time, but this is
what the accuser will do. You're not really convicted, and
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so now you're like, man, I've got to get more conviction.
And you know what I'm going to do. I'm going
to strain that conviction out and I'm just gonna like,
I gotta be convicted. I gotta be convicted. And guess
what you're now You're in your own power again. You're
the source of conviction, right. It is truth, right, and
so if you don't feel it, no one's taking it
away from you. You can't erode God's truth. Right.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
If you don't have it, it's because you you need
to go get it from the Word of God.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yes, and that's what I wanted to get to. So
someone's going, man, I want to develop conviction. First of all,
be encouraged. It's it's something that develops, right, It's something
that grows. We talked about Paul, we talked about the apostles,
we talked about your own example. I hope people are
taking that like, you know, these three elements are not
things that you have like a reading on it. And
you're like, when I get to level fifty, that's when
the conviction. It's like, no, you need to develop these things.
So from a place of integrity, g Like, if someone's going, Okay,
(17:25):
you just said, need to read the Word of God, right,
because that's how you're going to grow in what we're calling.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
It's well, it's it's read it, but then fully submit
to it. Yes, stand on it, right, the same way
that I have like a strong fear detector. Right, I
have that light detector because it's my filter. What again,
what I learned in the Seal Teams is do exactly
as I tell you to do, and this will work.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Right. Follow the manual, follow the training, and you will succeed. Right.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
If you do not follow the training completely, you will fail.
And so for me, when I again, like it's one
of the scriptures I first began to preach and had
revelation on like many many years ago, Go two Timothy
one seven. God has not giving you a strike of fear, right,
And so what does that mean? If that means if
there's any fear in my life, it's not from God, right, Like,
fear is not something that I'm supposed to have in
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my life. And so I took that scripture and I said,
I'm going to remove every ounce of fear in my life.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Otherwise you're like, yeah, that's that's true, that is what
God says. Well, I'll just you know, here's my buddy,
you know, Tom, captain of fear. And here's my buddy Jerry.
He's he's friendly fear, and we just all hang out together.
I know the Word of God says that, you know,
I'm not supposed to be afraid, but I've known these
guys for a long.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Time, and that and that, so this is I think
that's so interesting what I love about wisdom. I found
this over and over again. When you have wisdom revealed,
you go, oh, of course, it feels like it's been
there the whole time.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
It's so so bad as simple as half of proverbs
don't sleep with prostitutes.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Hey you mailed that part. I'm good on that one.
But but but no, but on a serious note, because
our natural tendency is what am I missing? What do
I need to go do? That's why I'm saying like,
what's the next step? Well, here's the next step. Take
what you already know. And besides, before going like what
else do I need to do next? Are you doing
what you know to do? Because I think that that
is a question that if you can ask yourself that
from a place of objective judgment and not like beat
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yourself down, but you actually look, I think the answer
for most people is no, because there's so many things
where we're like, well I know, but ah, that right,
And it's like, are you doing what you know to do.
I think if you just do that, that's what's called
being faithful. You talked about developing integrity, that's being faithful,
and I think God rewards that and that's how you
then begin to grow. Because man, it's like you know,
many will proclaim his own goodness, but a faithful man
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who can.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Find having the cure for cancer would test your integrity
super hard. Yeah, it would test your integrity and your
sense of work ethic and your faithfulness.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
If you have this thing that the whole world needs,
how hard are you going to fight to deliver it?
It would also test you and opportunities to serve yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Right. Well, here's the thing though, Gee, you said that
it's the result of it comes from belief, and like
you're using this cancer example in case anybody not putting
tune in to two together. Guess what, you're a follower
of Jesus. You have a cure that every person out
there needs. This is what Garrett's saying to you in
a not very veiled analogy. And so you so always
say that your discipleship philosophy is if you knew what
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I knew, you'd live like I live that's a very
certain place and I love that thought process. So I
hope that this episode is challenging.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
And for those who don't, that's it is my philosophy.
If you knew what I knew, you do what I do.
And I know that's only ninety nine percent true. What
I know is that there's some people that will deny it,
and that and it is. God is going to deal
with those people and I will. I will pray for
their soul. But for everyone else, I know what God
has given me. I know what God's put me on
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the earth to do, and what that conviction turns into
for me is a great I wake up every morning
with a great amount of energy. When my body is tired,
I'm thinking, like what do I And it's why I've
also gotten into personal health, because I'm thinking, how do
I get more life out of the time that I have.
I guess I have to sleep at some point, But
I wake up every single day with a great amount
(21:02):
of energy and enthusiasm because with this sense of purpose,
with this understanding, I've got to be faithful with what
God's given me. I want to do what's right before
the Lord. God has given me a measure of intelligence.
I'm going to use that to deploy my skill sets
and with this sense of purpose, with this understanding of
truth that has become conviction of my life. I wake
up every single day and I know that I must
(21:23):
drive the ball forward. And if I'm not, I'm denying
the truth. If I'm not moving the ball forward, I'm
not operating with integrity. If I'm not moving the ball forward,
I have a lack of faithfulness in my life. So
just decide for yourself that if you feel like you
have any lack of energy, you're going to go back
to the word of God. Continue to stand on the truth.
We talk on this podcast all the time about where
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that far yet, keep following along with us. Learn what
it means to have a sense of purpose. But when
you have purpose and when you have truth, you will
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