December 8, 2025 • 52 mins
In this powerful and deeply insightful episode, Dr. Robi Sonderegger joins Garrett and Nick for his third appearance on The Impossible Life Podcast—and this conversation may be his most impactful yet. Together, they expose the invisible forces—your beliefs—that quietly dictate your identity, your decisions, your relationships, and ultimately the direction of your entire life.
Drawing from psychology, neuroscience, Scripture, and lived experience, the guys explore:
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Drawing from psychology, neuroscience, Scripture, and lived experience, the guys explore:
- Where your beliefs actually come from
- How emotion cements beliefs into your identity
- Why most people never question their limiting beliefs
- How to identify beliefs that are silently sabotaging your growth
- The only two ways beliefs ever change: experience and revelation
- How God can supernaturally rewire what you believe in a moment
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
If a person believes in their heart and confesses with
their mouth. But wait, hang on. Even the devil believes
in God and it doesn't do him any good. So
it's not an academic religiosity. Oh, I read the Bible,
and therefore I've come to the conclusion that he must exist. No, no, wait,
if you believe in your heart, you have had an
encounter with them, You've developed a relationship. There's a heart
(00:25):
connection going on here. And I've got certain belief systems
now that have developed because I've experienced that's impossible.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Let me tell you what I believe. It's your weakness.
It's not your technique. Don't think you are. You know
you the Impossible Life Podcast, and.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You're setting on a winning lot of protective an idea
that is fully formed, fully understood, that sticks.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
This is the Impossible Life Podcast because Nick and I
are attempting to live and possible lives. What we know
is that nothing is impossible. So instead of using impossible
as an excuse to not try, we'll use the pursuit
of impossible as an accelerant for greatness. If something's never
been done before, that just means it's unexplored. If they
(01:17):
tell you it's too hard. It's just waiting to be simplified.
Impossible as a default label used by uncourageous people unwilling
to take a risk. The real truth is this The
solution to any impossible task starts with this question, if
I had to, what would it take?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Would it take?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Welcome to another episode of the Impossible Life Podcast. I'm
your co host, Nick Surface, and I'm looking across as
a man who recently took a psych eval only to
find the results inconclusive.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
That's right, friends, Garrett Unkleback.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
A man whose brain is not meant to be studied,
only experienced and appreciated.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Can't put me in a box?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
No, don't we know it?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Man?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, boxes, boxes, beware.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And I'm not sure that Evel was totally inconclusive. We've
got some theories going, well, you gave.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It, yeah, and you may. You may.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Immediately you hear the voice of greatness on this podcast,
Doctor Robbie Sandreger is with us again.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I am so pumped that you're finally in the studio.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
In the studio, this is the first time we can
look at you and not like the first episode we
had you. Remember, we had so many technical difficulties because
you were somewhere where the Wi fi was terrible, so
you would say something, will you just be staring at you?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
It was well, it was only because like we knew
doctor Robbie so well I could fill in the blanks
that that even worked. Well, you know because from a
like technical perspective, that was the worst episode.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
We've ever done, ever done.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
We've never had a guess that was like every other
word we could hear.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, I edited, I had like I had to remove
so many gaps because there were so many delays.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
But but you have no idea. This is the first
time I'm hearing this. This is fantastic, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
That's the power of riverside though, Yeah, that side.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
But so so if you're sitting here, you're going, oh wait,
who's doctor Robbie. Well, first, you're probably a new listener
and welcome because you're in for a treat. But if
you want to go back and listen doctor Robbie, there's
a lot of first happening. So for those of you
that don't know, Garrett and I are both very busy,
which means that we're recording these in person podcasts Sunday
mornings at like five thirty am. So doctor Robbie is
the first person to ever be like, you know what,
I'll show up in person at what turned out out
(03:18):
to be six am.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So thank you, doctor Robbie.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Today's the day.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
What a guy.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And then also the first ever third three time guests,
which I like, I feel like that's the right thing,
that you're.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
The guy, right because we love you.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Man. We have coffee in hand, and I have to say, look,
as an Australian, you know, coffee to Australians is what
chess is to Russians, and we have an a bit
of an expression when it comes to coffee in America.
America needs cheesus. But Garrett, I can tell you a
hanging tight with the man, because this coffee is actually
quite good this morning, except for the little you know
cup that you've given me. Not very manly for a
men's purpose.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Podcasts at Garrett Smiley because as he said, he said,
I gave you an espressove cup. If you would ask
for a double triple, I've give you a better cup,
which was basically like, be a real man, drink more caffeine.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I bit my tongue when I asked him, you know,
first press. So I said single, double triple, and he
said single. It's just it was kind of sad.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
He's like, oh you're one of those well you laughed.
But like this guy.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I've been with this guy and he's like hey, uh,
like we're finishing up a double date with our wives
and they're like coffee. You're like yep, and just like
slamm one down. I'm like, bro, are you Seriously's like
I wouldtabolize caffeine very fast. I'll be asleep in twenty
five minutes. I'm like all right, and I check his
whoop score. I'm like, you're yeah, that's the truth.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Anyway. Wow.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So doctor Robbie was first on with us in episode
forty seven Man, which was like where he said one
of your favorite things ever. We talked about gratitude, which
was incredible. So for the new listeners, I'm not going
to give him an intro because at this point, doctor
Robbie is just a friend. He's not even like a
guest of the podcast anymore. And then he was also
on an episode one sixty eight, which was in December
of last year, so like every December, this is like
our tradition had doctor Robbion Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas to
(04:46):
your ears and.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
In Cambodia no less yeah, oh yes, yeah, so we
thought this was illy. That was like a four AM
for me in uh In. That was just that was wild.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well, you always pay the price, so think and you
talked about parenting. I remember that our parenting we did
a three part series. You were number two and it
was just incredible. So I'm so glad to have you back. Okay,
so you're like, okay, great, you guys all really like
each other. You've established that now now and we do
really like each other. But why would we have a
psychologist on And by the way, you recently got upgraded
in psychology. I know you were telling me about it
(05:17):
because I publicly came out and said that you're my
favorite psychologist. So I know that was pretty pretty big
for you, you know, and you're welcome.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And now top of the Yah. Yeah, there's a lot
of letters.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
After his name, but none like what is it fp
N favorite psychologist of Nick.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
There you go add that to my.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
C Yeah, you know, put on your LinkedIn profile. You're
going to be rich. So anyways, I was thinking about
this as well, man, like how much we've grown since
you came on in episode forty seven, like thank you,
like you were really appreciate you coming on our podcast
because I couldn't even look back at the statistics. It
wouldn't let me go back that far to see how
many people listen compared to now three.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, well, you know it was my mom, all three
of us. That was it.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
It was a little more, but yeah, not that much.
So it's awesome to just have you on as we grow. Okay,
so why are we having Doctor Robby on? Well, Garrett
and I just finished up on Thursday talking about dismantling
the lie that we love, which is authentic self, which
is just basically an excuse for like I can do
what I want and everybody just needs to agree with
me and not challenge me.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
We talked about some of the like there's a measure
of truth to that, right, But then there was the
part where you're getting into the ability to just say
that how I feel is the.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Truth, right and believe it or not that's not the case.
So really, yeah, I know, I know that's probably shocking
for you.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
So it allows you to have zero accountability.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, and so, and what we ultimately got to is identity,
and one of the big pieces of identity is your beliefs.
And we talk about beliefs about as much as anything.
I mean, if I think if you had a heat map,
it'd be beliefs, purpose, you know, the Word of God, like,
these are the things that we always talk about a
matter of fact, in our Mindset Mastery course, where we
literally give people mental tools. We changed a little bit
(06:57):
about how we teach it a few months ago or
it's sometime this year, because we realized, in order for
a lot of the tools that we teach you, if
you don't have the right beliefs, you're gonna be like, oh,
that's cool for them, and so like.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
So even in a in a topic like time management,
we start with these are the things. These are the
beliefs that you must have. Yeah, our definition of belief
things you know are true but can't prove scientifically, prove, verifiable, demonstratable, repeatable.
You can have a lot of evidence for those things,
but this is what you have to stand on to.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Walk in this right And I thought, well, who better
to have on to actually talk about how those beliefs
are formed, the limiting ones, discovering them, how to change them,
I was like, man, you just.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Happened me in Town Expert.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You and I were having a conversation and You're like,
why don't we just do this on a podcast? And
I was like, like this weekend or can like when
you come back next He's like, sure, let's go this.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Week and I'm like, yes, I just text you.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I was like, I didn't expect you to like put
your hand up for another one, because you've got plenty
going on.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well, I didn't expect you to say, but you know
here we are, that's right.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, yeah, you bought your first said that I told
you what was going to happen. That's how all great
things happen.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But yeah, we're so big on beliefs because, like we
said in Matter, we define your beliefs or your mindset
basically comprises of your beliefs, your desires, and your understanding.
And so Garrett gave our definition, which was something you
know to be true but can't prove. But you gave
me a definition that I've been literally thinking about since
you said it to me on Friday. Can you I've
got it written down. Can you share with the listeners
your belief's definition?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Sure? The proverbs says that the heart is the seat
of emotion. So when a thought, which takes place largely
in our head migrates south and becomes infused with emotion,
it becomes your philosophy. So the word philosophy comes from
the Greek word filao, which means love. So in its
most simple definition, your philosophy is to be in love
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with what you know. So a thought is easily changeable.
If you've got a thought and I tell you some
new information, you go, oh wow, and now you've got
a new thought or an adjusted or adapted thought. But
a belief that's infused with emotion is harder to change because, well,
I've got a motion attached to this, and so it's
like a big anchor that's weighing down, and it's harder
to to drive the ship forward when you've got this
(09:02):
big ball and chain of emotion tagging along with you.
And so that's why it's very dangerous to follow our
feelings because there's emotion involved, and feelings are so faulty.
But if you inform your feelings through a dynamic belief system,
then the beautiful thing is your feelings will follow.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Now, so there's so much I want to get into there,
because like you said that really nicely and with a
wonderful accent, well spoken as always, and I'm like, okay,
because like I like, so what you said when we
were having coffee, you said, beliefs are a thought or
an idea that has been infused with emotion, which is
what you you just said in different words. And so
when we say it's something you know to be true
but can't prove, I don't think there's a contradiction in
(09:43):
those I think what you uncover is a lot about
how they're formed, right, Because, like a lot of the
beliefs that we give to people and.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Police, it makes me think, makes me think that on
what you're saying there of how they're formed, I feel
like a lot of the way that we try to
help people inform and or create a belief is through information,
like you need to have this understanding. But what that
sounds like, and correct me if I'm wrong, doctor Robbie,
What that sounds like is most people's beliefs start with
an experience.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, yeah, because that's where I start, That's where I
start going. I mean, well, it's our Mantoni robbins. He says,
a belief is a poor substitute for an experience.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
And I remember when he said that when you read
the Bible, which is where we try to develop a
lot of our beliefs from, that's not an experience when
you read it. But we're saying this is where your
beliefs should come from. Right, And so you're put in
this position of trying to counter an experience based belief
with an information based belief. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
But I so here's here's what's so interesting about this
because now when I start to think about, Okay, how
beliefs are formed, because I hear what you're saying, g
And that's why, like, I love that we do the
fire starter because for a lot of people, when they
like a fire stars our New Year's Day polar plunge
that we do at six thirty am, I've seen shame
you're not here if you're ever out here on New
Year's Like, you know, we're gonna rope you in helping.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Save some some people's lives.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, he's changing the world elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
But but what I love about that is we tell
people like, hey, you know you're capable, you can do
all these things. And to your point, when you hit
the water, your your philosophy gets a real ult.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's it's the litmus test.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
How much do you really believe that because your body
starts shivering, pain starts jumping in Like, how much do
you believe you're an overcomer? How much do you believe
that you can, you know, think your way into things
and you have a strong mindset.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It's really an interesting thing.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
But I started thinking about, like in so if it's
if it's something that's infused with the motion. Obviously when
you're a kid, a lot of your beliefs are going
to be formed. But there was this thing that happened
years ago with Ray Rice. I don't I know you're
a big American football fan, Doctor Robbie, Like just you
know you love it.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Bring it on.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I loved I was just thinking about that yesterday as
he gave the football analogy and mighty men. I was like,
doctor Robbie had to learn football.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
American for real.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
But there's so like but think about this where we
where we have because in America, and I know it's
in Australia as well. Like you, you're really big on
like identity, politics and things like that that are being
shaped and you have people who have really strong, what
i'll say, our beliefs, because they are doing some wild
things based on these beliefs.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
And so I started thinking. I was like, how do you.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Get formed a belief that like you can change your
gender or something that's like what I would consider absolutely absurd.
And so I started thinking, Okay, let's let that's an
extreme example. Let's dilo it down a little bit smaller
to something that also surprised me where I saw something
confused with the motion.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
So I'll give it.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I'll tell you why I was bringing up American football
so years ago and this is I don't remember the years.
There's a football player named Ray Rice in the in
the NFL, and a video came out of him dragging
his wife out of an elevator or a lift as
you would say.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Weren't supposed to see that?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, well she was unconscious, right, so he got I
think it was a two game suspension for that, right, Like,
because you can't can't can't behave that way?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Well so then somebody only too well, yeah, but you
say that because we all know what happened, Like she
didn't trip and fall, right, but like then what happens
the video comes out some TMZ or whatever goes in
hacks the finds the video and released the video of
him punching her in the face. Okay, like, he literally
hooked his wife in the face and knocked her out.
It was awful. What do you think happened? Everyone lost
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their mind. He got suspended for the whole year. I
don't think he ever came back. I would have to check.
And I'm using this as the example because the point
isn't what his suspension or his his his punishment was.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It was that everybody saw.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Him dragging his wife out and he got a suspension
and people were upset about it. But once they saw it,
now it's an emotion. And I'm bringing this up to
show how polifs areformed because I thought it was. It
always surprised me because I was like, what do you
think happened in there? Like I said, like she didn't like,
oh whoops, I just you know, I got seasick and
fell fell down. You knew something happened, But once you
saw it was.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
When my wife, you know, randomly goes on a contest,
I drag her around by her hair.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Right, which is what Yeah, what he did? It was
it was it was really bad.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, that's game.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
But do you think so Like the reason I'm bringing
this up is because do you feel like people just
because we have these devices in our hands all the time,
how like how deeply seated can theolice start to become
from like echo chambers and algorithms? And because what I
want on this episode for people listening, I'm hoping people
start to realize the power of what they put in
and how they're actually developing their beliefs as well as
how to uncover some of them. So I don't know
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if that if I'm reading this right with the rare
race example, but is that like is a is that
a thing?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
There's multiple layers of complexity when it comes to belief
because you've got the conscious dynamic and then you've got
the subconscious and there's you know, theories out there that's
a you know, ninety to ninety five percent of everything
we do is driven by the subconscious. Now that it's
all in these automatic processes and so it's almost like
hardware and software, and so it doesn't matter what the
hardware is. If you've got a particular program running in
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the background, you're going to have autocorrect, so you might
consciously type in a particular word, but if the autocorrect
program is running in the background, it's going to modify
that word, and all of a sudden you're on a
different trajectory. But I like the way that ancient scriptures
put it when it talks about belief in your heart.
If a person believes in their heart and confesses with
their mouth, you know that that he is Lord? Then wow,
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that's that's different dynamic. Or as a person thinks in
their heart, so they become what's the heart got to
do with thinking? Well, it might surprise you to know
that the heart has ten to forty million neurons, which
are nerve cells or brain cells, and the head, the
brain has its own heartbeat. In other words, the heart
and the head share each other's properties. So if you
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hook up an EEG.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I've ever heard the heartbeat in the brain? Yeah, talk
about that really quick.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
So if you do an EEG and an ECG and
an electro cardio and electro and cephalogram, so the you know,
why are your brain and why are your heart? You'll
have two different beats. And so the beat in the
brain is called the sensory motor rhythm. Your brain is
operating or beating, it's running to its own basic drum,
and your heart has its own brain cells. And so
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there's this intimate connection between the two. And so if
you have a heart transplant, you're not just transplanting an organ,
you're transplanting memories as well. So there's interesting research now
coming to show that there's more going on than what
we realize. And so as a thought becomes infused with
the seat.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Of the heart, is that like a person, for example,
it has a heart transplant, It's like, I've never been
an anxious person before. Why am I so anxious now?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yes? But even more cool than that. So there have
been scenarios whereby for example, a ballerina had the heart
of a motocross a guy who had an unfortunate spill
on this is a movie script waiting to happen, and
he loved KFC and beer, and all of a sudden,
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this ballerina developed an appetite for KFC and beer. But
even better than that is the memories that go along
with that. So a young girl was murdered and her
heart was transplanted to somebody else, and the new recipient
of the heart was able to help work with the
police to tell them and inform them not only where
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the murder took place, where the murder weapon was, indeed
who indeed was the murderer.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
That's he means, that's nuts.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
There's more going on here than what we realized.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
I mean, I believe it. That's just a crazy story.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You should never transplant your heart gy. Whoever gotten to
take that one of the grave with? Yeah, that would
not be that is man, that is wild? And how
how like how research like? How new is this?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
They're anecdotal stories, of course, and but there's a bunch
out there, like it's it's not just a one or
two and h and so it's interesting, interesting research that
obviously is still ongoing. But it just goes to show
there's more going on here than what we realize.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
So for those of you who are not well versed
in science, anecdotal means that it's not widely accepted yet.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It's these are.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
It's somebody's experience, right, it's not it wasn't a scientific reporter,
and it's.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
One study, so it's it's one participant that we're investigating, right,
So that's that's that's what we're looking at.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, when I said, for those of you who are
not versus science, I was talking about myself, but I
was just trying to like disguise it so that the
listeners wouldn't feel bad anyways. Okay, okay, so so back
to this. Okay, So the heart in the head, so
I mean, I guess the obvious answers. So, I mean,
if you're saying that's infused with the motion, what are
the most common ways that beliefs are formed through experiences?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
So when you have an experience, an encounter. So it's
a little bit like what we're saying before. If a
person believes in their heart and confesses with their mouth.
But wait, hang on, even the devil believes in God
and it doesn't do him any good. So it's not
an academic religiosity. Oh, I read the Bible, and therefore
I've come to the conclusion that he must exist. No, no, wait,
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if you believe in your heart, you have had an
encounter with them, You've developed a relationship. There's a heart
connection going on here. And so that relational dynamic is, Hey,
you invited me over to your house this morning, and
so I've got a relationship with you. There's something going
on this is our third podcast. Hey, we're in a
relationship here. There's a dynamic here. We actually know each other,
(18:52):
we're hanging out with each other. There's a belief in
my heart that I'm forming about you guys as we
develop that level of intimacy, that we get to see
our strengths and weaknesses and still embrace and celebrate each other. Anyway. Well,
there's something else that's taking place that's deeper than just
a thought. And because it's becoming now infused with emotion.
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If somebody was to say, well, now Nicka's like this
and Garrett's like this, I'm hang on no way just
a second. I've got certain belief systems now that have
developed around these particular individuals because I've experienced them.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Man, So what's so wild about that? As you're saying
this is for everybody out there listening right now, you
get to have a large say in in not even
large say. You get to have this say in who
you're around, regardless of what you say. You get to
pick who you're around and largely what you do. When
you're a kid, you have zero input. You get taken
everywhere and you get all these experiences, which means that
(19:47):
you basically arrive, if I could like make this overly simple,
you arrive probably sometime in your twenties, and wake up
and go, I've got this set, this playing field of
all these things I believe you now have to it's
your responsibility to assess what it's true and what's not.
That is a and I guess that's why psychology exists
because there's so many people that need help. I am
I reading that right?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah to a degree, sure, But it doesn't necessarily mean
that's fixed, right, Yes, So it's malleable, it's moldable. And
so yeah, we start out with a set of ideas
and beliefs that have been programmed or reinforced by those
who have been caring for us. So they transfer their
ideas to us, and then we go out and, wait
for it, experience the world, right, and through those experiences,
(20:30):
our beliefs will slowly be molded and shaped into the
new individual that we become.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
So the majority of the people listening to this podcast,
after they've been here for ten episodes, twenty episodes, what
they realize is they have a lot of beliefs that
need to change. Yeah, for sure, And we talk about that.
We try to help them with that. We tell them
these are some of the beliefs you need to have
to go on these specific journeys. But what Nick has
dealt with, what I've dealt with. And this is where
I think you could be so instructive today, Doctor Robbie.
(20:58):
It's people are I have the lived beliefs. I have
these beliefs I've had for decades, and now I know
I want to have these beliefs, and I believe these
beliefs are the right ones to have. But when I
try to walk in them, I keep reverting back to
some of my old beliefs. How do you help this person?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
If we're embarking upon a journey of change, we always
have to examine our degree of motivation. Why why are
you changing? And all too often we want to avoid pain.
I don't like something in my life anymore.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I was joking yesterday. We're a mighty men, and I
thank God for this body of steel that God has
given me. And I looked at Garret, I'm like, well, yeah,
he might have a six pack, but I have a
family pack, and so I go, hang on, I don't
actually want a family pack. I'd like to actually become
(21:55):
a little bit more like Grrett and so what could
I do? But the motivation that drives me is because
of something I don't want. I don't want this big
fat bloke belly anymore. And because it's something I don't want,
we call it negative motivation. And negative motivation is good
because it gets you to the starting line, but it
almost never helps you cross the finishing line. In order
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for that to take place, I need a renewing of
my mind. I need to transform what I think and
on what my heart believes. So, in other words, thought
confused with emotion. My motivation needs to be positive. I
need to be asking the question, so what do I want?
Can create a vision for that future, to be able
to say this is something I'm going to pursue, as
opposed to I'm running away or wanting to change something
(22:40):
that I don't like.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, man, it's what I love about having you on here.
And I always say this to Gary, It's so funny
to me how many things because I'm I'm not even
an amateur psycholoist, always feel embarrassed talking to you about
like my views because I like reading about psychology, but
like you're you know, you like helped millions of people
in the world. So it's like it's like talking to
Michael Jordan about how I like to go play basketball.
You know, it's not not really that relevant, but you'll
(23:03):
say things on here and I'm always like, man, Like
I say to Garrett all the time, I'm like, dide
you intuitively do and save things that. Then psychology comes
along goes like yeah, and you'll say it in your
own way, but it's different. I always find that so
interesting because we talk about all the time how like pain,
pain and pleasure are very temporary fuel sources, but purpose
is eternal fuel. Come on, and when you have purpose,
(23:24):
you'll run forever, right, But when you have pain or pleasure,
you'll run until you get enough, until you get far
enough away from the pain, or till you get enough
pleasure that you don't want it anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
And it's not to dismiss it. There's a big case
to be had. I mean, we actually am more motivated
by the removal of pain than we are the pursuit
of pleasure.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, dang it, And I can't you can't say I'm
you know, I didn't study psychology. I didn't go to
school beyond high school, but I do reference what one
of the things I learned in the military is the basics.
The basics like rule everything. And one of the basics
of psychology that we reference all the time is Maslow's hierarchy,
which is exactly what doctor Robbie is talking about not
going to achieve greatness running from failure. You can run
(24:02):
from failure and it'll get you down the road, but
at some point you have to make that transition. And
that's really what so much of our our podcast is
for a lot of people of making a belief transition,
making a mindset transition in their life where it's like
I want what you guys are talking about, and what
I've used in the past I've realized isn't going.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
To get me there.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah, So if I wanted to now have new beliefs, right, like,
first of all you got to do you have to
discover your own or do you like because it sounds
like if I was like, man, I really want to believe,
like I want to be tougher or whatever. Yeah, you
need to go out and do some difficult things, right
because you have to give yourself reference experiences like we're
getting ready to run a fifty miler in March. Now
we've done one hundred mile or we attempted it twice
(24:39):
and we finished it once and that was like, for
me reset my definition of hard. So like I've gone
through a bunch of stuff since then, I'm like, hmm,
And it's not Honestly, it's not like when I think
about the fifty miles, I'm not in disrespectful to it
because I know it's gonna, it's gonna. It's you know,
it doesn't change, it's fifty miles, But in my head
it's so much less.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I'm like, well, it's not one.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Hundred how are the superpower perspective?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And it's wild.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
So but I'm saying this because I've experienced this myself
about how much my own beliefs have changed and all
these things. But for people who are listening that maybe
don't have a Navy c alddrect so like start to
be like, hey, we should go do this. Am I
reading this right? Like they need to go out and
put themselves in these positions?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Is that correct? Well?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I think it starts with the thought of what do
we actually want?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Why?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
You know?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
When am I going to actually do this? And then,
how so though those four questions, you know, starting with
the what is basically laying down on the table, here
is the pursuit or this is what I want to change,
or this is what I want to improve or in
hands or you know, go after I'm going to run
one hundred miles or whatever whatever it might be. But
hang on why and let's establish that because the why
(25:43):
is the fuel. It's if you have the why behind
what you do, you'll be able to overcome any obstacle
that's in your way if it's the right why. And
once again, as we said, from a positive motivational perspective,
this is what I want as opposed to this is
what I don't want. Because in psychol we know you
always get more of what you focus on. So if
you always focus on what you don't want, you'll simply
(26:07):
get more of what you don't want. So in the
renewing of our mind comes transformation. And now that I've
got one hundred percent positive perspective, this is the vision,
this is the target, this is what I'm going after. Okay,
so when when are you going to start? Not just
as well, I'm going to do it in the new year. Well,
hang on why is it that ninety percent of our
news resolutions, you know, fall flat to the floor within
the first couple of weeks? So what makes me go
(26:30):
the distance? And So when I put my when down
and I've got a you know, a target date of
whether I'm starting or finishing, like I'm going to finish
this race or complete this target of losing an x
amount of kilos or putting on or stacking whatever it
might be, then I have to ultimately ask the question how.
And so the when is a game changer because before
(26:51):
that it's just wishful thinking. And now my when, my
target date has just made this a potential reality.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
But how?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
And all too often we start with the how, But
how it's the wrong kind of how. We're like, how
am I going to do this? Wrong question? If you've
got the first three questions down, pat, this is what
I'm going to do, this is why I'm going to
do it, and this is when I'm going to start
or complete this, the how kind of takes care of itself.
So we flip the how and become how will I
(27:19):
know when I have accomplished this?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
And so we renew our mind once again and create
a vision and if you can really use all of
your senses to encapsulate this in your mind and put
yourself take a polaroid and really, what do you see
in that photo that you've crossed the finishing line?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Like?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Who else is in the photo?
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Now?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Press that little transparent you know, triangle on the photo
and make the photo come to life, like turn it
into a video. What can you hear? What can you feel?
Can you feel the wind against your face? Like?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
What?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
If you can really conceive it, you can achieve it
because the brain does not know the difference between that
which is imagined and that which is real.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, that's so funny, is if you overgeneralize the Bible.
This is the exact same instruction that the Bible gives
if you, if you if you read the Word and
you have a desire to follow God. Scripture says Man
knows a man by his fruit, and many people they
live their life of chasing fruit, of chasing Man's approval.
But if what the word says is that the Lord
weighs the heart, he looks at what something we talk
(28:18):
about on the show all the time. God cares way
more about why you do what you do than what
you do and if you'll pursue it from the white perspective.
You what doctor Robbi's saying is the change will come
if you'll know why you're changing, then the change that
you want to see will come. If you'll live a
life of saying, God, I care way more about pleasing
you and you and you being proud of why I'm
(28:40):
doing what I'm doing than actually the fruit that comes
from it, you'll you will walk right into practical growth
and to just operationalize what doctor Robbie is saying is
instead of trying to force yourself into change, just having
that very simple foundation of the purpose. And so the
next time you go, you know, you go to change
that it's like a seen from one of my favorite movies.
(29:01):
You've been down that road before. When you get faced
with the challenge and the difficulty of you know, change
is really hard. You just have to remind yourself of
do I want more of what.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I've had right? What I love so much?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
What you said, because right now we just released we
did this thing called the Purpose Playbook that we released
maybe a week ago or two weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Come on, and.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
What it is ultimately is you come out with goals
for the year that, but like, what we realized because
we did it in person with people for two years,
and what we realized is what you just said, people
don't need as much help with the goals as much
as they do with the purpose behind them. So what
we spent all our time doing with these people in
person was like stirring up the belief and potential, casting vision,
(29:43):
understand how purpose works, and then we do some practical
things like hey, here's how your life is in order
right now. You need to understand priorities and all that
sort of stuff, and then you can actually set goals brilliant.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
And so my frame on goal setting kind of was
influenced by the military from just being a part of
some much bigger campaigns I was not the leader of,
but experienced where you get into the campaign, it's like, Okay,
we're going to further the campaign by killing bad guys.
But there comes a point where killing more bad guys
does not further the campaign. And that's why I felt like,
(30:15):
then that's how most people do their goals, Like oh,
it'ld be good if I made more money, it'd be
good if I got in better shape, And that's the
equivalent of like killing bad guys, but you have to
zoom out and be like, what is the actual mission
that we're on?
Speaker 3 (30:26):
And so the Purpose Playbook is basically us walking them
through that step by step where we do all the
groundwork with them so that they can finally get to
the place where it's like, Okay, now you're ready to
actually set some goals that are so tied to something
eternal that you're like, I must do this, Like if
I don't do this, it's like and so anyways, we
did it in person with people like twenty people or
twenty five people each year for the past two years,
and then this year we're like, let's just put it
(30:47):
into a digital form and get it to as many
people as possible. So right now that's out and it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
So you know what, I like that because it's not
just behavioral modification. No, it is right here, you're talking
life transformation and that starts with the room of the Mind.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
How awesome is it? Yeah? And that's what we want.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
So I'd be remiss to not say, www, dot the
Impossible Thought Life Forward Slash Purpose if you want to
get that.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I didn't. That wasn't even planned.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
So hey, praise the Lord, it's almost like it's almost
like what we're doing is rooted in in foundational truth.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
So going back to this because I want to talk
about how you how you define a limiting belief and
then how you would go about discovering But before we do,
you touched on it. And what I love about you,
doctor Robbie. You like we did an episode a few
weeks ago about how science is always catching up to
what God says, and I love because you know so
much of the science, and like you're also a man
of God, like you are a man whose heart is
like wholly after God. We've had a lot of great conversations.
(31:36):
I'm very grateful for our friendship that we that you've
got to you know, doctor.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Robbie would have been a great guest for that episode.
Oh he was an even better guess for this episod.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Doctor Robby be a great if he was just like
a pretty much just lived here, we could just be like, yo,
come on here, be the third member. But yeah, you'd
always add But it was what I love about what
you said, because you talk, You're talking so much about
you know, I think what humanity wants to do is
they want to be like, Okay, I'm gonna go engineer
this belief. I'm going to go out and have five
hard I'm gonna tell myself this and then I'm gonna
have a new belief. And it's not how it works,
(32:03):
but what we have is we have this supernatural God
that's beyond our comprehension, that doesn't fit into our box,
and that can move and create and change beliefs in
a moment because when you experience the presence of God,
you talk about having a thought or an idea that's
infused with an experience, an emotional experience. When you encounter
the presence of God, we were talking about this, all
you can do is just go holy, Holy, like just
(32:24):
put your hands up, because the presence of God, the
actual weight of the presence of God is so overwhelming.
And so we have this like Christians, people who follow
Christ have this like supernatural power available to them to
get into the presence of God and to have themselves,
like we said, transformed by the renewing of their mind.
Nothing's going to renew your mind faster than being in
the presence of the awesome God.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
That we serve.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
And so I love that we like as you're saying this,
I'm just like man, because I go in my own
walk like God's been just drawing me into just spending
time in prayer to sitting before him praying and tongue
just worshiping Him, and I'll feel the presence of God
come in. And it's when a lot of the greatest
ideas or peace or love or just things. There's just
a healing that happens that I can't go, well, yeah,
and then I realized this and then five step it
(33:07):
is just like no, I gotten the presence. It's like
all you do is touch Jesus and things changed. And
so I just I love that we have that.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I think that a lot of people who are listening
to this might be hearing you talk and going, well,
I want that, but I don't have that. How do
I get that?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Like?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Is that and so once again becomes a target or
a goal or is there a five step checklist that
I can do? So I too, can you know touch
or have the encounter with and and you've you've gone
on a journey with God, so that it wasn't just
pressing a button and say okay, okay, God, enter into
the door, open the door now, come on in and
and so that journey of intimacy, developing that relationship, you know,
(33:43):
that's that that's something special that I think a lot
of people listening would go. So how do I get that?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Well, those who seek him must believe that he is aka,
that he exists, and that he's a rewarder of those
who diligently seek him.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I've always find me. You'll seek me, and you'll find
me when you seek me with all your heart.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
He tells us. So what does all your like? This
is one of the things.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And Garrett, this is where you've been such a great
unlock and lidlifter for me and I hope for it
like this is the time of year where Spotify does
their rap. So I'm talking to so many listeners right
right now through our DMS, and I love it, by
the way, So thank y'all for all your messages. And
it's amazing to see how many minutes you guys listen to.
Shout out to Morgan Watherspoon, who's listened to thirteen thousand minutes.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
He's the top listener.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I gonna say, did we get a like for an
artist that I listened to? That's like an obscure electronic artist.
I was in there point zero one percent, and then
it gave me my leaderboard, Like I was number fifteen
hundred and forty two for this obscure electronic artist. Do
we get that for ours? Like do we know our leader?
Speaker 3 (34:44):
We don't know who our number one is, but we
know that we were for six first. We were taught
for six thy seven hundred people on Spotify.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
If you are number one and you're listening to this,
I would assume you'd have to be listening to this.
If you're number one, Yeah, we'd love to know who
you are. I have something for you.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
We would.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
But going back, so just going back to why I
was bringing that up, like so we're getting we're getting
all this feedback, and what we would hope that we
would stir in people is that you would exactly have
that belief of like, man, there's a living God that
I can know that I can press in that part
of that, like you'll seek me with all your heart.
Like this way I was saying Garrett was a great
lidlifter for me was you know, I got to be
(35:19):
around a guy personally who like I thought, like level
ten was like yeah, man, like this is pretty hardcore.
And I meet this guy, He's like, oh, that's like
level two bro. I'm like what and he's like, Yeah,
we're gonna go do this. And there were so many times,
i mean stud like four point thirty in the morning
pool workouts, like we're in the middle of something and
I think it's really hard and Garrett's like smiling, and.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I'm like what, you know, who is this guy?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
But like I've always you know, this is a great
NLP belief, is like if if somebody else can do it, like,
so can you. And so I never looked at Garrett
and was like, oh, he's untouchable, like he's just a
superpowered guy. I just watched him like getting chaotic situations
and kind of smile his way through it, and I'm like, Okay,
he knows something I don't. I just got to discover that.
And so like being around that has been a blessing
(35:58):
for me. And that's the base of this podcast is
I want as many people as possible to hopefully have
their lid lifted. And now we're saying, like you said, so,
I'm using it as a microcosm of like, hopefully the
people listening to this are starting to wake up and
realize there's a living God that you need to seek
with all your heart. Well, what's all your heart? Your
definition of all your heart is starting to change because
it's not like, ah, a fifteen minute proverb of the day,
(36:19):
like I hope you do that, and like I'm not
knocking that, but that's like the appetizer. Maybe it's like
you having a snack at home before you go to
the restaurant, right, Like to read just a proverb like
to seek God with all your heart is so much more.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
You're smiling, do you want to Well, I.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Just I'm recognizing there's a flip side as well. Okay,
so yeah, you can see somebody else do it and
it lifts the lid, But you can also see others
not being able to do something because of the community
that you're hanging around, and you develop a limiting belief
that that's as high as I can jump. Yes, that's
as far as I can go, because well that's just
the way it is. In fact, my parents before me
and my answer that's all we're able. And so now,
(36:55):
well you can't break a four minute mile, like it's
just that's not posi humanly possible. And so there are
leaves limiting the leafs as well, and we need a
revolution through revelation in order to break through.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Okay, so how do you okay?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
In your referencing Sir Roger Banister, who was the first
guy to break the forman of mile, who's like a
personal he's on my personal board of advisors in my head.
I love his story so much because after he did it,
I think it was like, in the first year after
he did it, thirty six other people did it.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Did it? Yeah, And it's like, well, that's weird. Did
they have a breakthrough in science?
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Because all the newspapers said it can't be done exactly
And there are certain types of people who just don't
hear that or hear that signal weigh less than other people. Yeah,
I mean there's a great philosopher who said, like, was
Sir Roger Banister the like genetically, physiologically the greatest runner
of his time. I would highly, highly, highly doubt that
his ability to break the four minute mile had so
(37:45):
much more to do with his mindset than he shot
it in his head.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, I mean, there's a great philosopher that scause.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Then I don't know the data, but I imagine in that
next five years there was someone who ran it faster
than Docker ever did for the rest of his life.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Well, like I said, in the first year, thirty six
people broke it, and he fell down the charts for sure,
because he broke it barely. But you know, Batman was
the one who said, it's only impossible to someone does it,
you know, and he was a great philosopher.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
So we all know that research with the fleas.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
That research.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Okay, So yes, I was actually gonna bring that up
because IM glad you said, because I do want you
to define a little bit more so we like and
this of course. So there's this story that Steve Harvey,
of all people, tells and our friend Kenny it was
at coffee with us a shout of canny let me But.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Steve Harvey's life is a story of belief, right.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Well, I don't know a lot about his story, but
he tells, he talks about this. They did this thing
with the with fleas. Fleas can jump thirty six inches,
and so what they did was they put them in
a jar and put a lid on it, so they
would jump these thirty six inches and like it was
a thirty six inch jar, they'd hit the lid. That
obviously hurts. After enough times hitting the lid, they stopped
jumping thirty six inches. They would jump just below it. Well,
then after that they took the lid off to see
(38:48):
what would happen. None of them jumped out of the jar.
And then what's even crazier is they had kids, because
fleas you know, they have kids a lot faster than
we do. Their kids didn't even jump that high. Now,
I would be remiss because I don't want to share
information that's not accurate.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
On here.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I looked up the accuracy of.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
This and it's not like, oh, that's completely made up.
But there's of course there's etymologists and all these people
are like, well, we've had a little bit of conflicting research.
But the actual story and the understanding.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Of it is scientists a lot of science. I wouldn't
say scientists in joernal what many scientists struggle with the
concept of belief, right, because data and faith are on
a spectrum where people if well, I'm all about the data,
I'm all about the numbers, and they're looking for things
that they're looking for data that is contrary to the
belief where at least we can say, for us sitting
(39:35):
at this table, we live with a different source of truth,
we live with a faith perspective, and then we see
these things that confirm that.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, so good.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
So the flea story, obviously, that is like limiting belief
laid out so nice and clear for us. Right, should
we just wrap it up and just say, hey, don't
do that like this, but like you love that when
you heard that, Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
And imagine if you were to extract one of those fleas,
put them in a community of fleas that jump higher.
Then all of a sudden, the mindset shifts. It's like, wait,
what you're able to do? Okay? So what if I
was to give this a go, and all of a
sudden we break through this invisible barrier and the limiting
(40:16):
belief starts to shift, and I have a new belief,
and I think that's out. Like our relationship with God,
it's quantum physics. Like we all think, well, within the
realm of physics, you know, time, space and matter, that's
as well. Quantum physics throws all that out the window.
The rules no longer apply. And if Jesus says, hey,
everything I did you can do? And even more, WHOA,
(40:36):
hang on? What now I need to see this? Like
how to actually develop a belief that that's actually possible
through faith? And any scientists as you were saying, Garrett,
who says, no, I only operate by fact. I believe
only things that can be proven. Well, that's not what
science does. Science poses a theory that comes from an idea,
and so we test the hypothesis and when we report
(40:57):
the data, we say, based on the evidence, it's as
that this may be the case. In all good science
leads room for another possible alternative. Science doesn't prove anything.
We posit theories that have the data to support or
reject hypotheses.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
To develop a worldview that's based only off of science.
That is not science. That's theology.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Huh, that's faith right.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Like literally, you're saying, I won't only live by what
I can see. Many scientists that is what they live by.
They're saying, like, if I can't see it, I won't
live by it. That's a theology. That's not a science.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah. Man.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
So so the flea story and what you just said
there is it's amazing because what you intimated and I'm
always I'm like, I feel like it's always my job
to extract things and hopefully make them as plain as
possible so other people can grasp them. You're basically saying like,
because what you said straight away was like, imagine if
we took that flea and put it around a bunch
of other fleas who could jump more than thirty six inches.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
The interesting part of that study would be how many fleas? Right?
If you put one flea next to the flea that's limited,
maybe it might not jump, like, how many other fleas
does it have to see jumping rebel it's height before
it finally says, oh, I guess I can probably do
that too. And guess what.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
We're not fleas. We're men, So like, I.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Don't take my cues from fleas, but I thought what
was interesting because I'm always interested in Okay, we've uncovered
a problem. We all have limiting beliefs, and I mean,
I want to hear your definition of limited beliefs.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
But what's before you get there?
Speaker 3 (42:22):
You kind of already gave us the answer because like
the natural things like well, how do I change it?
And you're what you recommended there was imagine if you
put around another community, aka.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Who are you spending your time with? Am I reading
that correctly?
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, to a degree, and not that it's not the
whole story, but there is something to be said for
the power of community. So it's a little bit like
the you know, the Rat Park studies from the nineteen
seventies in Canada where they took drug addicted rats fully
drug addicted, heroin addicted, and then place them into a
community of rats who were drug free, and even when
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they were presented with the opportunity to take caroin, they
would actively avoid it, like the of the rats in
the community. And so what is it that creates community?
Speaker 4 (43:04):
I've heard that study before. That's really cool.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah, So it's, uh, you know, there's power in there's
safety in numbers. But it has to be the right
kind of community because if you're just hanging out with
fellow drug addicts, well, that's only going to reinforce your addiction.
So begs the question who you're hanging out with, because
it might influence what you believe.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, and it's what we say. What we talk about
is what we're always going to talk about, Like pasture,
Keith says, Okay, so we've talked about living beliefs. Do
you have a definition that like is ready in your
head for a limiting If someone said, like, what's the
limiting belief, do you have a ready answer?
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, okay, human being, we all have these limiting beliefs.
And the beauty of this conversation is how do I
lift the lid off of my jar? And the thing
is the fleas don't know. We don't know what our
limiting beliefs, you know, are well that's just what you
can do, right, like surely, And so we just have
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these default conclusions that we're formed, and we don't think
it's a limiting belief. We just well, that's the con conclusion.
So when we experience something by whether it be hanging
out with other people or going on a journey and
an adventure with God, and he reveals, you know, look
at I look at the life of Peter, this guy
who was hanging out with the main man himself Jesus, Like,
(44:22):
this guy is witnessing miracles. He's doing all sorts of
different things and he even participated in miracles. Like he's like, Jesus,
is that you walking on the water if it is
like command me to come on out and sure, come
on down, and so Peter walks on the freaking water.
I mean, this is amazing, and then he starts sinking.
The point being you can be standing right in front
of Jesus and still be sinking in your life. It's
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not until you get a revelation of who he really
is that thing starts to change. And that's what ultimately
happened in the end of the story. You know, people,
he asks the disciples, you know, who do people say
that I am? And Peter says, well, you're You're the Christ.
All of a sudden, God, you're the one we've been
waiting for. You're the Messiah. And He's like, yeah, see,
flesh and blood didn't reveal that to you. Your your
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experiences alone didn't help you form that belief. It was
a revelation from the throne room above. The Father himself
has revealed that to you. So our community, our experiences
they are good, but they only take us so far.
At the end of the day, we also need a revelation.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Yeah, man, the what's so fascinating about that?
Speaker 2 (45:31):
You've seen that?
Speaker 3 (45:32):
For so because I thought about this stuff a lot.
When for the Israelites, they if you were a Hebrew.
You grew up hearing scripture, going to the synagogue, Like
your identity was tied to what we would call, you know,
religion if you're synecal.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
And just understand this for those of you who listening right,
many of you listening are American. If you come from
a different culture, it makes even more sense to you.
But their beliefs were older to them, yes, than what
it means to be an American. To us, we have
so much hit. We have two hundred and fifty years
of history of like this is the identity and the
soul of America. And many of these people are hundreds
and hundreds of years into you know, a set of
(46:09):
beliefs and a set of cultural identity.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Yeah, and that that's exactly my point. So it's a
thous's I actually would be thousands of us by the
time that Peter was around. So for you've got stories
of like I think it's amazing they talked about Abraham,
Isaac and Jacob like we don't talk about like you know,
Leonardo DaVinci Michael, Like we don't talk about it in
modern day times. We don't even talk about like Abraham
Lincoln gets some mentions here and there because he had
a few good quotes that stuck around, but they talk
(46:32):
about the patriarchs in such a different way. So to
have that revelation of like, hey, wait, this has been
throughout our scripture and like God's been talking to people
that we know he talked to, and he's been hinting
and intimating, and now this is the guy. Like for
you can make that an intellectual thing, but it wasn't intellectual,
right because it was only when the Holy Spirit came
at Pentecost that they really you know, the dude who
(46:54):
forty days earlier like was going like I don't know,
the guy is now standing up and boldly proclaiming. And
that's what you're saying, is like it's like we can
have experiences, we can have community, but until it's like
you have the real revelation aka in actual relationship with God. Man,
it's like if people can't tell you you know, oh well,
your change is kind of gradual, like you know, it's radical,
(47:15):
right whenever you actually know God like that.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Yeah, And I think what you guys were saying before
about when you seek you will find God is such
a good God. He's you know, the scientist quote is
you know if God exists, and why did he go
to such lengths to hide himself. Well, he've been looking,
like just open your eyes, look around half a second
and when you see, but.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Seek me with all your heart. I don't expect him
to reveal himself to you.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
That's it. And because he loves us and longs to
be in a relationship with us. In fact, you do anything,
including sending his own son, like he would love the
idea of somebody going, oh, really, authentically, God, I want
to know you. And when that takes place, he just
loves to reveal himself.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
And I think it's the the part that goes with that,
not just the one to know you, but be willing
to accept what will come from knowing him. Because one
of the stories in the Bible that is so revelational
to me. This is why so many people I feel
like deny Christ is the last time Jesus is in
the temple, last time he's in the temple. The Pharisees say,
(48:20):
you know, are you the Messiah? He says, I'll answer
answer your question if you'll answer mine. And the question
he asked them is is John the Baptist a prophet
of God? And of course he is right. Everyone had
declared that he's the first prophet in hundreds of years.
And if the Pharisees had said no, John the Baptist
isn't a prophet, then they would have been thrown out
of the temple for heresy because he was said population right,
(48:42):
John the Baptist had been accepted as a prophet. If
they had said yes, then Jesus's response is going to
be well, John the Baptist is a prophet. He declared
that I'm the Messiah. So there's your answer. And so
what they said back to him was we don't know,
and they knew the answer. The reason they said they
don't know is because they didn't like what that answer. Men,
And you won't You won't find God when you find it.
(49:04):
You've already decided I don't want to accept what if
I did find him, it would mean.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Oh, isn't that good? Because that takes limiting beliefs to
a whole new level. That's a willful ignorance.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
Yeah, it's you, like you, You're going to get out
of limiting beliefs if you really have like I would
love to get beyond this. Just show me that I can, right, right,
you have to have that like and again it's a
reference back to one of my favorite movies. Right, Neo
goes to multiple confrontations of a test of like are
you willing to accept what this means? And each time
he is yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
And that that's what's so interesting to me, because there's
always you know, you want to have like, Oh, here's
exactly what you do to uncover limiting beliefs. But what
we're saying is you have to be willing to face
the prospect that maybe what you believe is wrong and
actually have an objective view of the quote unquote data
or whatever or the experience that's coming back to you,
Like maybe what I think about money, maybe what I
think about relationships isn't working.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Aka, I'm looking at my life.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
If I showed you your mindset has caused all the problem,
the most pain problems you've had in the last decade.
Are you willing to swallow that pain? Be humble and
confront change.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
You like humility, don't you? Doctor Robbie. We talked about
this briefly.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Oh man, it's the beginning of everything. Yeah, if you
can humble yourself. But what I just heard you say, Garrett,
was for the fleas. There's a degree where we go,
we didn't know that you could jump higher than was
it thirty six inches?
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Very six inches? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (50:22):
And then there's another dynamic that says, well, we know
that it's possible, but then that presents the responsibility of
us getting out of the jar, and we don't know
what's out there. Yes, and therefore no, it's not possible
to jump more than thirty six And so we become
willfully ignorant so as to not have to face the
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fear of the unknown.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
And it's almost like that's why we talk about fear
all the time, gee, because people are so afraid of
the unknown. And until you can embrace and certainty, you're
going to keep getting more of what you got pain.
When pain governs you, you'll never reach your full potential.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Man, well, I feel like we've reached the logical conclusion.
Is there anything I'm missing, doctor r Is there anything
I should have asked you that I did not ask you?
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah? You should have asked me more about the report
that we did on Garrett's psychological makeup. That was ten
and but there's no time for that, so we'll lef
to regroup another time.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
Well, doctor Robbie Man, I love having you on here.
Thank you so much because guess what, Doctor Abby's gonna
go off and preach it our church chow for the
next couple of services. And I don't even know what
else you have on So thank you so much for
coming in early, just being the massive blessing that you are.
Is there anything like people can find you at doctor
Robbie dot com?
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (51:33):
And you don't really, I mean, you're you're doing so
many things that we're not going to talk about. But like,
just just if you're listening to this and you want
to be a blessing to doctor Robbie, pray for him
because just know that he is advancing the Kingdom of
God and he is a man who's all about it.
So I will just say I can't wait to have
you on here again. It's been awesome hanging out with
you guys. Thanks for the coffee.
Speaker 5 (51:55):
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Welcome to another episode of the Impossible Life Podcast. I'm
your co host, Nick Surface, and I'm looking across as
a man who recently took a psych eval only to
find the results inconclusive.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
That's right, friends, Garrett Unkleback.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
A man whose brain is not meant to be studied,
only experienced and appreciated.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Can't put me in a box?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
No, don't we know it?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Man?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, boxes, boxes, beware.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And I'm not sure that Evel was totally inconclusive. We've
got some theories going, well, you gave.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It, yeah, and you may. You may.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Immediately you hear the voice of greatness on this podcast,
Doctor Robbie Sandreger is with us again.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I am so pumped that you're finally in the studio.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
In the studio, this is the first time we can
look at you and not like the first episode we
had you. Remember, we had so many technical difficulties because
you were somewhere where the Wi fi was terrible, so
you would say something, will you just be staring at you?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
It was well, it was only because like we knew
doctor Robbie so well I could fill in the blanks
that that even worked. Well, you know because from a
like technical perspective, that was the worst episode.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
We've ever done, ever done.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
We've never had a guess that was like every other
word we could hear.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, I edited, I had like I had to remove
so many gaps because there were so many delays.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
But but you have no idea. This is the first
time I'm hearing this. This is fantastic, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
That's the power of riverside though, Yeah, that side.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
But so so if you're sitting here, you're going, oh wait,
who's doctor Robbie. Well, first, you're probably a new listener
and welcome because you're in for a treat. But if
you want to go back and listen doctor Robbie, there's
a lot of first happening. So for those of you
that don't know, Garrett and I are both very busy,
which means that we're recording these in person podcasts Sunday
mornings at like five thirty am. So doctor Robbie is
the first person to ever be like, you know what,
I'll show up in person at what turned out out
(03:18):
to be six am.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So thank you, doctor Robbie.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Today's the day.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
What a guy.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And then also the first ever third three time guests,
which I like, I feel like that's the right thing,
that you're.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
The guy, right because we love you.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Man. We have coffee in hand, and I have to say, look,
as an Australian, you know, coffee to Australians is what
chess is to Russians, and we have an a bit
of an expression when it comes to coffee in America.
America needs cheesus. But Garrett, I can tell you a
hanging tight with the man, because this coffee is actually
quite good this morning, except for the little you know
cup that you've given me. Not very manly for a
men's purpose.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Podcasts at Garrett Smiley because as he said, he said,
I gave you an espressove cup. If you would ask
for a double triple, I've give you a better cup,
which was basically like, be a real man, drink more caffeine.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I bit my tongue when I asked him, you know,
first press. So I said single, double triple, and he
said single. It's just it was kind of sad.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
He's like, oh you're one of those well you laughed.
But like this guy.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I've been with this guy and he's like hey, uh,
like we're finishing up a double date with our wives
and they're like coffee. You're like yep, and just like
slamm one down. I'm like, bro, are you Seriously's like
I wouldtabolize caffeine very fast. I'll be asleep in twenty
five minutes. I'm like all right, and I check his
whoop score. I'm like, you're yeah, that's the truth.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Anyway. Wow.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So doctor Robbie was first on with us in episode
forty seven Man, which was like where he said one
of your favorite things ever. We talked about gratitude, which
was incredible. So for the new listeners, I'm not going
to give him an intro because at this point, doctor
Robbie is just a friend. He's not even like a
guest of the podcast anymore. And then he was also
on an episode one sixty eight, which was in December
of last year, so like every December, this is like
our tradition had doctor Robbion Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas to
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your ears and.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
In Cambodia no less yeah, oh yes, yeah, so we
thought this was illy. That was like a four AM
for me in uh In. That was just that was wild.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well, you always pay the price, so think and you
talked about parenting. I remember that our parenting we did
a three part series. You were number two and it
was just incredible. So I'm so glad to have you back. Okay,
so you're like, okay, great, you guys all really like
each other. You've established that now now and we do
really like each other. But why would we have a
psychologist on And by the way, you recently got upgraded
in psychology. I know you were telling me about it
(05:17):
because I publicly came out and said that you're my
favorite psychologist. So I know that was pretty pretty big
for you, you know, and you're welcome.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And now top of the Yah. Yeah, there's a lot
of letters.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
After his name, but none like what is it fp
N favorite psychologist of Nick.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
There you go add that to my.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
C Yeah, you know, put on your LinkedIn profile. You're
going to be rich. So anyways, I was thinking about
this as well, man, like how much we've grown since
you came on in episode forty seven, like thank you,
like you were really appreciate you coming on our podcast
because I couldn't even look back at the statistics. It
wouldn't let me go back that far to see how
many people listen compared to now three.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, well, you know it was my mom, all three
of us. That was it.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
It was a little more, but yeah, not that much.
So it's awesome to just have you on as we grow. Okay,
so why are we having Doctor Robby on? Well, Garrett
and I just finished up on Thursday talking about dismantling
the lie that we love, which is authentic self, which
is just basically an excuse for like I can do
what I want and everybody just needs to agree with
me and not challenge me.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
We talked about some of the like there's a measure
of truth to that, right, But then there was the
part where you're getting into the ability to just say
that how I feel is the.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Truth, right and believe it or not that's not the case.
So really, yeah, I know, I know that's probably shocking
for you.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
So it allows you to have zero accountability.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, and so, and what we ultimately got to is identity,
and one of the big pieces of identity is your beliefs.
And we talk about beliefs about as much as anything.
I mean, if I think if you had a heat map,
it'd be beliefs, purpose, you know, the Word of God, like,
these are the things that we always talk about a
matter of fact, in our Mindset Mastery course, where we
literally give people mental tools. We changed a little bit
(06:57):
about how we teach it a few months ago or
it's sometime this year, because we realized, in order for
a lot of the tools that we teach you, if
you don't have the right beliefs, you're gonna be like, oh,
that's cool for them, and so like.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
So even in a in a topic like time management,
we start with these are the things. These are the
beliefs that you must have. Yeah, our definition of belief
things you know are true but can't prove scientifically, prove, verifiable, demonstratable, repeatable.
You can have a lot of evidence for those things,
but this is what you have to stand on to.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Walk in this right And I thought, well, who better
to have on to actually talk about how those beliefs
are formed, the limiting ones, discovering them, how to change them,
I was like, man, you just.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Happened me in Town Expert.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You and I were having a conversation and You're like,
why don't we just do this on a podcast? And
I was like, like this weekend or can like when
you come back next He's like, sure, let's go this.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Week and I'm like, yes, I just text you.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I was like, I didn't expect you to like put
your hand up for another one, because you've got plenty
going on.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well, I didn't expect you to say, but you know
here we are, that's right.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, yeah, you bought your first said that I told
you what was going to happen. That's how all great
things happen.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But yeah, we're so big on beliefs because, like we
said in Matter, we define your beliefs or your mindset
basically comprises of your beliefs, your desires, and your understanding.
And so Garrett gave our definition, which was something you
know to be true but can't prove. But you gave
me a definition that I've been literally thinking about since
you said it to me on Friday. Can you I've
got it written down. Can you share with the listeners
your belief's definition?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Sure? The proverbs says that the heart is the seat
of emotion. So when a thought, which takes place largely
in our head migrates south and becomes infused with emotion,
it becomes your philosophy. So the word philosophy comes from
the Greek word filao, which means love. So in its
most simple definition, your philosophy is to be in love
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with what you know. So a thought is easily changeable.
If you've got a thought and I tell you some
new information, you go, oh wow, and now you've got
a new thought or an adjusted or adapted thought. But
a belief that's infused with emotion is harder to change because, well,
I've got a motion attached to this, and so it's
like a big anchor that's weighing down, and it's harder
to to drive the ship forward when you've got this
(09:02):
big ball and chain of emotion tagging along with you.
And so that's why it's very dangerous to follow our
feelings because there's emotion involved, and feelings are so faulty.
But if you inform your feelings through a dynamic belief system,
then the beautiful thing is your feelings will follow.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Now, so there's so much I want to get into there,
because like you said that really nicely and with a
wonderful accent, well spoken as always, and I'm like, okay,
because like I like, so what you said when we
were having coffee, you said, beliefs are a thought or
an idea that has been infused with emotion, which is
what you you just said in different words. And so
when we say it's something you know to be true
but can't prove, I don't think there's a contradiction in
(09:43):
those I think what you uncover is a lot about
how they're formed, right, Because, like a lot of the
beliefs that we give to people and.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Police, it makes me think, makes me think that on
what you're saying there of how they're formed, I feel
like a lot of the way that we try to
help people inform and or create a belief is through information,
like you need to have this understanding. But what that
sounds like, and correct me if I'm wrong, doctor Robbie,
What that sounds like is most people's beliefs start with
an experience.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, yeah, because that's where I start, That's where I
start going. I mean, well, it's our Mantoni robbins. He says,
a belief is a poor substitute for an experience.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
And I remember when he said that when you read
the Bible, which is where we try to develop a
lot of our beliefs from, that's not an experience when
you read it. But we're saying this is where your
beliefs should come from. Right, And so you're put in
this position of trying to counter an experience based belief
with an information based belief. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
But I so here's here's what's so interesting about this
because now when I start to think about, Okay, how
beliefs are formed, because I hear what you're saying, g
And that's why, like, I love that we do the
fire starter because for a lot of people, when they
like a fire stars our New Year's Day polar plunge
that we do at six thirty am, I've seen shame
you're not here if you're ever out here on New
Year's Like, you know, we're gonna rope you in helping.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Save some some people's lives.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, he's changing the world elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
But but what I love about that is we tell
people like, hey, you know you're capable, you can do
all these things. And to your point, when you hit
the water, your your philosophy gets a real ult.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's it's the litmus test.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
How much do you really believe that because your body
starts shivering, pain starts jumping in Like, how much do
you believe you're an overcomer? How much do you believe
that you can, you know, think your way into things
and you have a strong mindset.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It's really an interesting thing.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
But I started thinking about, like in so if it's
if it's something that's infused with the motion. Obviously when
you're a kid, a lot of your beliefs are going
to be formed. But there was this thing that happened
years ago with Ray Rice. I don't I know you're
a big American football fan, Doctor Robbie, Like just you
know you love it.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Bring it on.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I loved I was just thinking about that yesterday as
he gave the football analogy and mighty men. I was like,
doctor Robbie had to learn football.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
American for real.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
But there's so like but think about this where we
where we have because in America, and I know it's
in Australia as well. Like you, you're really big on
like identity, politics and things like that that are being
shaped and you have people who have really strong, what
i'll say, our beliefs, because they are doing some wild
things based on these beliefs.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
And so I started thinking. I was like, how do you.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Get formed a belief that like you can change your
gender or something that's like what I would consider absolutely absurd.
And so I started thinking, Okay, let's let that's an
extreme example. Let's dilo it down a little bit smaller
to something that also surprised me where I saw something
confused with the motion.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
So I'll give it.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I'll tell you why I was bringing up American football
so years ago and this is I don't remember the years.
There's a football player named Ray Rice in the in
the NFL, and a video came out of him dragging
his wife out of an elevator or a lift as
you would say.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Weren't supposed to see that?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, well she was unconscious, right, so he got I
think it was a two game suspension for that, right, Like,
because you can't can't can't behave that way?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Well so then somebody only too well, yeah, but you
say that because we all know what happened, Like she
didn't trip and fall, right, but like then what happens
the video comes out some TMZ or whatever goes in
hacks the finds the video and released the video of
him punching her in the face. Okay, like, he literally
hooked his wife in the face and knocked her out.
It was awful. What do you think happened? Everyone lost
(13:06):
their mind. He got suspended for the whole year. I
don't think he ever came back. I would have to check.
And I'm using this as the example because the point
isn't what his suspension or his his his punishment was.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It was that everybody saw.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Him dragging his wife out and he got a suspension
and people were upset about it. But once they saw it,
now it's an emotion. And I'm bringing this up to
show how polifs areformed because I thought it was. It
always surprised me because I was like, what do you
think happened in there? Like I said, like she didn't like,
oh whoops, I just you know, I got seasick and
fell fell down. You knew something happened, But once you
saw it was.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
When my wife, you know, randomly goes on a contest,
I drag her around by her hair.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Right, which is what Yeah, what he did? It was
it was it was really bad.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, that's game.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
But do you think so Like the reason I'm bringing
this up is because do you feel like people just
because we have these devices in our hands all the time,
how like how deeply seated can theolice start to become
from like echo chambers and algorithms? And because what I
want on this episode for people listening, I'm hoping people
start to realize the power of what they put in
and how they're actually developing their beliefs as well as
how to uncover some of them. So I don't know
(14:08):
if that if I'm reading this right with the rare
race example, but is that like is a is that
a thing?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
There's multiple layers of complexity when it comes to belief
because you've got the conscious dynamic and then you've got
the subconscious and there's you know, theories out there that's
a you know, ninety to ninety five percent of everything
we do is driven by the subconscious. Now that it's
all in these automatic processes and so it's almost like
hardware and software, and so it doesn't matter what the
hardware is. If you've got a particular program running in
(14:36):
the background, you're going to have autocorrect, so you might
consciously type in a particular word, but if the autocorrect
program is running in the background, it's going to modify
that word, and all of a sudden you're on a
different trajectory. But I like the way that ancient scriptures
put it when it talks about belief in your heart.
If a person believes in their heart and confesses with
their mouth, you know that that he is Lord? Then wow,
(14:59):
that's that's different dynamic. Or as a person thinks in
their heart, so they become what's the heart got to
do with thinking? Well, it might surprise you to know
that the heart has ten to forty million neurons, which
are nerve cells or brain cells, and the head, the
brain has its own heartbeat. In other words, the heart
and the head share each other's properties. So if you
(15:22):
hook up an EEG.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I've ever heard the heartbeat in the brain? Yeah, talk
about that really quick.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
So if you do an EEG and an ECG and
an electro cardio and electro and cephalogram, so the you know,
why are your brain and why are your heart? You'll
have two different beats. And so the beat in the
brain is called the sensory motor rhythm. Your brain is
operating or beating, it's running to its own basic drum,
and your heart has its own brain cells. And so
(15:50):
there's this intimate connection between the two. And so if
you have a heart transplant, you're not just transplanting an organ,
you're transplanting memories as well. So there's interesting research now
coming to show that there's more going on than what
we realize. And so as a thought becomes infused with
the seat.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Of the heart, is that like a person, for example,
it has a heart transplant, It's like, I've never been
an anxious person before. Why am I so anxious now?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yes? But even more cool than that. So there have
been scenarios whereby for example, a ballerina had the heart
of a motocross a guy who had an unfortunate spill
on this is a movie script waiting to happen, and
he loved KFC and beer, and all of a sudden,
(16:37):
this ballerina developed an appetite for KFC and beer. But
even better than that is the memories that go along
with that. So a young girl was murdered and her
heart was transplanted to somebody else, and the new recipient
of the heart was able to help work with the
police to tell them and inform them not only where
(16:58):
the murder took place, where the murder weapon was, indeed
who indeed was the murderer.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
That's he means, that's nuts.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
There's more going on here than what we realized.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
I mean, I believe it. That's just a crazy story.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You should never transplant your heart gy. Whoever gotten to
take that one of the grave with? Yeah, that would
not be that is man, that is wild? And how
how like how research like? How new is this?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
They're anecdotal stories, of course, and but there's a bunch
out there, like it's it's not just a one or
two and h and so it's interesting, interesting research that
obviously is still ongoing. But it just goes to show
there's more going on here than what we realize.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
So for those of you who are not well versed
in science, anecdotal means that it's not widely accepted yet.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It's these are.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
It's somebody's experience, right, it's not it wasn't a scientific reporter,
and it's.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
One study, so it's it's one participant that we're investigating, right,
So that's that's that's what we're looking at.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, when I said, for those of you who are
not versus science, I was talking about myself, but I
was just trying to like disguise it so that the
listeners wouldn't feel bad anyways. Okay, okay, so so back
to this. Okay, So the heart in the head, so
I mean, I guess the obvious answers. So, I mean,
if you're saying that's infused with the motion, what are
the most common ways that beliefs are formed through experiences?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
So when you have an experience, an encounter. So it's
a little bit like what we're saying before. If a
person believes in their heart and confesses with their mouth.
But wait, hang on, even the devil believes in God
and it doesn't do him any good. So it's not
an academic religiosity. Oh, I read the Bible, and therefore
I've come to the conclusion that he must exist. No, no, wait,
(18:31):
if you believe in your heart, you have had an
encounter with them, You've developed a relationship. There's a heart
connection going on here. And so that relational dynamic is, Hey,
you invited me over to your house this morning, and
so I've got a relationship with you. There's something going
on this is our third podcast. Hey, we're in a
relationship here. There's a dynamic here. We actually know each other,
(18:52):
we're hanging out with each other. There's a belief in
my heart that I'm forming about you guys as we
develop that level of intimacy, that we get to see
our strengths and weaknesses and still embrace and celebrate each other. Anyway. Well,
there's something else that's taking place that's deeper than just
a thought. And because it's becoming now infused with emotion.
(19:13):
If somebody was to say, well, now Nicka's like this
and Garrett's like this, I'm hang on no way just
a second. I've got certain belief systems now that have
developed around these particular individuals because I've experienced them.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Man, So what's so wild about that? As you're saying
this is for everybody out there listening right now, you
get to have a large say in in not even
large say. You get to have this say in who
you're around, regardless of what you say. You get to
pick who you're around and largely what you do. When
you're a kid, you have zero input. You get taken
everywhere and you get all these experiences, which means that
(19:47):
you basically arrive, if I could like make this overly simple,
you arrive probably sometime in your twenties, and wake up
and go, I've got this set, this playing field of
all these things I believe you now have to it's
your responsibility to assess what it's true and what's not.
That is a and I guess that's why psychology exists
because there's so many people that need help. I am
I reading that right?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah to a degree, sure, But it doesn't necessarily mean
that's fixed, right, Yes, So it's malleable, it's moldable. And
so yeah, we start out with a set of ideas
and beliefs that have been programmed or reinforced by those
who have been caring for us. So they transfer their
ideas to us, and then we go out and, wait
for it, experience the world, right, and through those experiences,
(20:30):
our beliefs will slowly be molded and shaped into the
new individual that we become.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
So the majority of the people listening to this podcast,
after they've been here for ten episodes, twenty episodes, what
they realize is they have a lot of beliefs that
need to change. Yeah, for sure, And we talk about that.
We try to help them with that. We tell them
these are some of the beliefs you need to have
to go on these specific journeys. But what Nick has
dealt with, what I've dealt with. And this is where
I think you could be so instructive today, Doctor Robbie.
(20:58):
It's people are I have the lived beliefs. I have
these beliefs I've had for decades, and now I know
I want to have these beliefs, and I believe these
beliefs are the right ones to have. But when I
try to walk in them, I keep reverting back to
some of my old beliefs. How do you help this person?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
If we're embarking upon a journey of change, we always
have to examine our degree of motivation. Why why are
you changing? And all too often we want to avoid pain.
I don't like something in my life anymore.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I was joking yesterday. We're a mighty men, and I
thank God for this body of steel that God has
given me. And I looked at Garret, I'm like, well, yeah,
he might have a six pack, but I have a
family pack, and so I go, hang on, I don't
actually want a family pack. I'd like to actually become
(21:55):
a little bit more like Grrett and so what could
I do? But the motivation that drives me is because
of something I don't want. I don't want this big
fat bloke belly anymore. And because it's something I don't want,
we call it negative motivation. And negative motivation is good
because it gets you to the starting line, but it
almost never helps you cross the finishing line. In order
(22:18):
for that to take place, I need a renewing of
my mind. I need to transform what I think and
on what my heart believes. So, in other words, thought
confused with emotion. My motivation needs to be positive. I
need to be asking the question, so what do I want?
Can create a vision for that future, to be able
to say this is something I'm going to pursue, as
opposed to I'm running away or wanting to change something
(22:40):
that I don't like.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, man, it's what I love about having you on here.
And I always say this to Gary, It's so funny
to me how many things because I'm I'm not even
an amateur psycholoist, always feel embarrassed talking to you about
like my views because I like reading about psychology, but
like you're you know, you like helped millions of people
in the world. So it's like it's like talking to
Michael Jordan about how I like to go play basketball.
You know, it's not not really that relevant, but you'll
(23:03):
say things on here and I'm always like, man, Like
I say to Garrett all the time, I'm like, dide
you intuitively do and save things that. Then psychology comes
along goes like yeah, and you'll say it in your
own way, but it's different. I always find that so
interesting because we talk about all the time how like pain,
pain and pleasure are very temporary fuel sources, but purpose
is eternal fuel. Come on, and when you have purpose,
(23:24):
you'll run forever, right, But when you have pain or pleasure,
you'll run until you get enough, until you get far
enough away from the pain, or till you get enough
pleasure that you don't want it anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
And it's not to dismiss it. There's a big case
to be had. I mean, we actually am more motivated
by the removal of pain than we are the pursuit
of pleasure.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, dang it, And I can't you can't say I'm
you know, I didn't study psychology. I didn't go to
school beyond high school, but I do reference what one
of the things I learned in the military is the basics.
The basics like rule everything. And one of the basics
of psychology that we reference all the time is Maslow's hierarchy,
which is exactly what doctor Robbie is talking about not
going to achieve greatness running from failure. You can run
(24:02):
from failure and it'll get you down the road, but
at some point you have to make that transition. And
that's really what so much of our our podcast is
for a lot of people of making a belief transition,
making a mindset transition in their life where it's like
I want what you guys are talking about, and what
I've used in the past I've realized isn't going.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
To get me there.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah, So if I wanted to now have new beliefs, right, like,
first of all you got to do you have to
discover your own or do you like because it sounds
like if I was like, man, I really want to believe,
like I want to be tougher or whatever. Yeah, you
need to go out and do some difficult things, right
because you have to give yourself reference experiences like we're
getting ready to run a fifty miler in March. Now
we've done one hundred mile or we attempted it twice
(24:39):
and we finished it once and that was like, for
me reset my definition of hard. So like I've gone
through a bunch of stuff since then, I'm like, hmm,
And it's not Honestly, it's not like when I think
about the fifty miles, I'm not in disrespectful to it
because I know it's gonna, it's gonna. It's you know,
it doesn't change, it's fifty miles, But in my head
it's so much less.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I'm like, well, it's not one.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Hundred how are the superpower perspective?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And it's wild.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
So but I'm saying this because I've experienced this myself
about how much my own beliefs have changed and all
these things. But for people who are listening that maybe
don't have a Navy c alddrect so like start to
be like, hey, we should go do this. Am I
reading this right? Like they need to go out and
put themselves in these positions?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Is that correct? Well?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I think it starts with the thought of what do
we actually want?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Why?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
You know?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
When am I going to actually do this? And then,
how so though those four questions, you know, starting with
the what is basically laying down on the table, here
is the pursuit or this is what I want to change,
or this is what I want to improve or in
hands or you know, go after I'm going to run
one hundred miles or whatever whatever it might be. But
hang on why and let's establish that because the why
(25:43):
is the fuel. It's if you have the why behind
what you do, you'll be able to overcome any obstacle
that's in your way if it's the right why. And
once again, as we said, from a positive motivational perspective,
this is what I want as opposed to this is
what I don't want. Because in psychol we know you
always get more of what you focus on. So if
you always focus on what you don't want, you'll simply
(26:07):
get more of what you don't want. So in the
renewing of our mind comes transformation. And now that I've
got one hundred percent positive perspective, this is the vision,
this is the target, this is what I'm going after. Okay,
so when when are you going to start? Not just
as well, I'm going to do it in the new year. Well,
hang on why is it that ninety percent of our
news resolutions, you know, fall flat to the floor within
the first couple of weeks? So what makes me go
(26:30):
the distance? And So when I put my when down
and I've got a you know, a target date of
whether I'm starting or finishing, like I'm going to finish
this race or complete this target of losing an x
amount of kilos or putting on or stacking whatever it
might be, then I have to ultimately ask the question how.
And so the when is a game changer because before
(26:51):
that it's just wishful thinking. And now my when, my
target date has just made this a potential reality.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
But how?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
And all too often we start with the how, But
how it's the wrong kind of how. We're like, how
am I going to do this? Wrong question? If you've
got the first three questions down, pat, this is what
I'm going to do, this is why I'm going to
do it, and this is when I'm going to start
or complete this, the how kind of takes care of itself.
So we flip the how and become how will I
(27:19):
know when I have accomplished this?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
And so we renew our mind once again and create
a vision and if you can really use all of
your senses to encapsulate this in your mind and put
yourself take a polaroid and really, what do you see
in that photo that you've crossed the finishing line?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Like?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Who else is in the photo?
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Now?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Press that little transparent you know, triangle on the photo
and make the photo come to life, like turn it
into a video. What can you hear? What can you feel?
Can you feel the wind against your face? Like?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
What?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
If you can really conceive it, you can achieve it
because the brain does not know the difference between that
which is imagined and that which is real.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, that's so funny, is if you overgeneralize the Bible.
This is the exact same instruction that the Bible gives
if you, if you if you read the Word and
you have a desire to follow God. Scripture says Man
knows a man by his fruit, and many people they
live their life of chasing fruit, of chasing Man's approval.
But if what the word says is that the Lord
weighs the heart, he looks at what something we talk
(28:18):
about on the show all the time. God cares way
more about why you do what you do than what
you do and if you'll pursue it from the white perspective.
You what doctor Robbi's saying is the change will come
if you'll know why you're changing, then the change that
you want to see will come. If you'll live a
life of saying, God, I care way more about pleasing
you and you and you being proud of why I'm
(28:40):
doing what I'm doing than actually the fruit that comes
from it, you'll you will walk right into practical growth
and to just operationalize what doctor Robbie is saying is
instead of trying to force yourself into change, just having
that very simple foundation of the purpose. And so the
next time you go, you know, you go to change
that it's like a seen from one of my favorite movies.
(29:01):
You've been down that road before. When you get faced
with the challenge and the difficulty of you know, change
is really hard. You just have to remind yourself of
do I want more of what.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I've had right? What I love so much?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
What you said, because right now we just released we
did this thing called the Purpose Playbook that we released
maybe a week ago or two weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Come on, and.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
What it is ultimately is you come out with goals
for the year that, but like, what we realized because
we did it in person with people for two years,
and what we realized is what you just said, people
don't need as much help with the goals as much
as they do with the purpose behind them. So what
we spent all our time doing with these people in
person was like stirring up the belief and potential, casting vision,
(29:43):
understand how purpose works, and then we do some practical
things like hey, here's how your life is in order
right now. You need to understand priorities and all that
sort of stuff, and then you can actually set goals brilliant.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
And so my frame on goal setting kind of was
influenced by the military from just being a part of
some much bigger campaigns I was not the leader of,
but experienced where you get into the campaign, it's like, Okay,
we're going to further the campaign by killing bad guys.
But there comes a point where killing more bad guys
does not further the campaign. And that's why I felt like,
(30:15):
then that's how most people do their goals, Like oh,
it'ld be good if I made more money, it'd be
good if I got in better shape, And that's the
equivalent of like killing bad guys, but you have to
zoom out and be like, what is the actual mission
that we're on?
Speaker 3 (30:26):
And so the Purpose Playbook is basically us walking them
through that step by step where we do all the
groundwork with them so that they can finally get to
the place where it's like, Okay, now you're ready to
actually set some goals that are so tied to something
eternal that you're like, I must do this, Like if
I don't do this, it's like and so anyways, we
did it in person with people like twenty people or
twenty five people each year for the past two years,
and then this year we're like, let's just put it
(30:47):
into a digital form and get it to as many
people as possible. So right now that's out and it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
So you know what, I like that because it's not
just behavioral modification. No, it is right here, you're talking
life transformation and that starts with the room of the Mind.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
How awesome is it? Yeah? And that's what we want.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
So I'd be remiss to not say, www, dot the
Impossible Thought Life Forward Slash Purpose if you want to
get that.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I didn't. That wasn't even planned.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
So hey, praise the Lord, it's almost like it's almost
like what we're doing is rooted in in foundational truth.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
So going back to this because I want to talk
about how you how you define a limiting belief and
then how you would go about discovering But before we do,
you touched on it. And what I love about you,
doctor Robbie. You like we did an episode a few
weeks ago about how science is always catching up to
what God says, and I love because you know so
much of the science, and like you're also a man
of God, like you are a man whose heart is
like wholly after God. We've had a lot of great conversations.
(31:36):
I'm very grateful for our friendship that we that you've
got to you know, doctor.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Robbie would have been a great guest for that episode.
Oh he was an even better guess for this episod.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Doctor Robby be a great if he was just like
a pretty much just lived here, we could just be like, yo,
come on here, be the third member. But yeah, you'd
always add But it was what I love about what
you said, because you talk, You're talking so much about
you know, I think what humanity wants to do is
they want to be like, Okay, I'm gonna go engineer
this belief. I'm going to go out and have five
hard I'm gonna tell myself this and then I'm gonna
have a new belief. And it's not how it works,
(32:03):
but what we have is we have this supernatural God
that's beyond our comprehension, that doesn't fit into our box,
and that can move and create and change beliefs in
a moment because when you experience the presence of God,
you talk about having a thought or an idea that's
infused with an experience, an emotional experience. When you encounter
the presence of God, we were talking about this, all
you can do is just go holy, Holy, like just
(32:24):
put your hands up, because the presence of God, the
actual weight of the presence of God is so overwhelming.
And so we have this like Christians, people who follow
Christ have this like supernatural power available to them to
get into the presence of God and to have themselves,
like we said, transformed by the renewing of their mind.
Nothing's going to renew your mind faster than being in
the presence of the awesome God.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
That we serve.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
And so I love that we like as you're saying this,
I'm just like man, because I go in my own
walk like God's been just drawing me into just spending
time in prayer to sitting before him praying and tongue
just worshiping Him, and I'll feel the presence of God
come in. And it's when a lot of the greatest
ideas or peace or love or just things. There's just
a healing that happens that I can't go, well, yeah,
and then I realized this and then five step it
(33:07):
is just like no, I gotten the presence. It's like
all you do is touch Jesus and things changed. And
so I just I love that we have that.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I think that a lot of people who are listening
to this might be hearing you talk and going, well,
I want that, but I don't have that. How do
I get that?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Like?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Is that and so once again becomes a target or
a goal or is there a five step checklist that
I can do? So I too, can you know touch
or have the encounter with and and you've you've gone
on a journey with God, so that it wasn't just
pressing a button and say okay, okay, God, enter into
the door, open the door now, come on in and
and so that journey of intimacy, developing that relationship, you know,
(33:43):
that's that that's something special that I think a lot
of people listening would go. So how do I get that?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Well, those who seek him must believe that he is aka,
that he exists, and that he's a rewarder of those
who diligently seek him.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I've always find me. You'll seek me, and you'll find
me when you seek me with all your heart.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
He tells us. So what does all your like? This
is one of the things.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And Garrett, this is where you've been such a great
unlock and lidlifter for me and I hope for it
like this is the time of year where Spotify does
their rap. So I'm talking to so many listeners right
right now through our DMS, and I love it, by
the way, So thank y'all for all your messages. And
it's amazing to see how many minutes you guys listen to.
Shout out to Morgan Watherspoon, who's listened to thirteen thousand minutes.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
He's the top listener.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I gonna say, did we get a like for an
artist that I listened to? That's like an obscure electronic artist.
I was in there point zero one percent, and then
it gave me my leaderboard, Like I was number fifteen
hundred and forty two for this obscure electronic artist. Do
we get that for ours? Like do we know our leader?
Speaker 3 (34:44):
We don't know who our number one is, but we
know that we were for six first. We were taught
for six thy seven hundred people on Spotify.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
If you are number one and you're listening to this,
I would assume you'd have to be listening to this.
If you're number one, Yeah, we'd love to know who
you are. I have something for you.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
We would.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
But going back, so just going back to why I
was bringing that up, like so we're getting we're getting
all this feedback, and what we would hope that we
would stir in people is that you would exactly have
that belief of like, man, there's a living God that
I can know that I can press in that part
of that, like you'll seek me with all your heart.
Like this way I was saying Garrett was a great
lidlifter for me was you know, I got to be
(35:19):
around a guy personally who like I thought, like level
ten was like yeah, man, like this is pretty hardcore.
And I meet this guy, He's like, oh, that's like
level two bro. I'm like what and he's like, Yeah,
we're gonna go do this. And there were so many times,
i mean stud like four point thirty in the morning
pool workouts, like we're in the middle of something and
I think it's really hard and Garrett's like smiling, and.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I'm like what, you know, who is this guy?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
But like I've always you know, this is a great
NLP belief, is like if if somebody else can do it, like,
so can you. And so I never looked at Garrett
and was like, oh, he's untouchable, like he's just a
superpowered guy. I just watched him like getting chaotic situations
and kind of smile his way through it, and I'm like, Okay,
he knows something I don't. I just got to discover that.
And so like being around that has been a blessing
(35:58):
for me. And that's the base of this podcast is
I want as many people as possible to hopefully have
their lid lifted. And now we're saying, like you said, so,
I'm using it as a microcosm of like, hopefully the
people listening to this are starting to wake up and
realize there's a living God that you need to seek
with all your heart. Well, what's all your heart? Your
definition of all your heart is starting to change because
it's not like, ah, a fifteen minute proverb of the day,
(36:19):
like I hope you do that, and like I'm not
knocking that, but that's like the appetizer. Maybe it's like
you having a snack at home before you go to
the restaurant, right, Like to read just a proverb like
to seek God with all your heart is so much more.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
You're smiling, do you want to Well, I.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Just I'm recognizing there's a flip side as well. Okay,
so yeah, you can see somebody else do it and
it lifts the lid, But you can also see others
not being able to do something because of the community
that you're hanging around, and you develop a limiting belief
that that's as high as I can jump. Yes, that's
as far as I can go, because well that's just
the way it is. In fact, my parents before me
and my answer that's all we're able. And so now,
(36:55):
well you can't break a four minute mile, like it's
just that's not posi humanly possible. And so there are
leaves limiting the leafs as well, and we need a
revolution through revelation in order to break through.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Okay, so how do you okay?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
In your referencing Sir Roger Banister, who was the first
guy to break the forman of mile, who's like a
personal he's on my personal board of advisors in my head.
I love his story so much because after he did it,
I think it was like, in the first year after
he did it, thirty six other people did it.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Did it? Yeah, And it's like, well, that's weird. Did
they have a breakthrough in science?
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Because all the newspapers said it can't be done exactly
And there are certain types of people who just don't
hear that or hear that signal weigh less than other people. Yeah,
I mean there's a great philosopher who said, like, was
Sir Roger Banister the like genetically, physiologically the greatest runner
of his time. I would highly, highly, highly doubt that
his ability to break the four minute mile had so
(37:45):
much more to do with his mindset than he shot
it in his head.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, I mean, there's a great philosopher that scause.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Then I don't know the data, but I imagine in that
next five years there was someone who ran it faster
than Docker ever did for the rest of his life.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Well, like I said, in the first year, thirty six
people broke it, and he fell down the charts for sure,
because he broke it barely. But you know, Batman was
the one who said, it's only impossible to someone does it,
you know, and he was a great philosopher.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
So we all know that research with the fleas.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
That research.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Okay, So yes, I was actually gonna bring that up
because IM glad you said, because I do want you
to define a little bit more so we like and
this of course. So there's this story that Steve Harvey,
of all people, tells and our friend Kenny it was
at coffee with us a shout of canny let me But.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Steve Harvey's life is a story of belief, right.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Well, I don't know a lot about his story, but
he tells, he talks about this. They did this thing
with the with fleas. Fleas can jump thirty six inches,
and so what they did was they put them in
a jar and put a lid on it, so they
would jump these thirty six inches and like it was
a thirty six inch jar, they'd hit the lid. That
obviously hurts. After enough times hitting the lid, they stopped
jumping thirty six inches. They would jump just below it. Well,
then after that they took the lid off to see
(38:48):
what would happen. None of them jumped out of the jar.
And then what's even crazier is they had kids, because
fleas you know, they have kids a lot faster than
we do. Their kids didn't even jump that high. Now,
I would be remiss because I don't want to share
information that's not accurate.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
On here.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I looked up the accuracy of.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
This and it's not like, oh, that's completely made up.
But there's of course there's etymologists and all these people
are like, well, we've had a little bit of conflicting research.
But the actual story and the understanding.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Of it is scientists a lot of science. I wouldn't
say scientists in joernal what many scientists struggle with the
concept of belief, right, because data and faith are on
a spectrum where people if well, I'm all about the data,
I'm all about the numbers, and they're looking for things
that they're looking for data that is contrary to the
belief where at least we can say, for us sitting
(39:35):
at this table, we live with a different source of truth,
we live with a faith perspective, and then we see
these things that confirm that.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, so good.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
So the flea story, obviously, that is like limiting belief
laid out so nice and clear for us. Right, should
we just wrap it up and just say, hey, don't
do that like this, but like you love that when
you heard that, Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
And imagine if you were to extract one of those fleas,
put them in a community of fleas that jump higher.
Then all of a sudden, the mindset shifts. It's like, wait,
what you're able to do? Okay? So what if I
was to give this a go, and all of a
sudden we break through this invisible barrier and the limiting
(40:16):
belief starts to shift, and I have a new belief,
and I think that's out. Like our relationship with God,
it's quantum physics. Like we all think, well, within the
realm of physics, you know, time, space and matter, that's
as well. Quantum physics throws all that out the window.
The rules no longer apply. And if Jesus says, hey,
everything I did you can do? And even more, WHOA,
(40:36):
hang on? What now I need to see this? Like
how to actually develop a belief that that's actually possible
through faith? And any scientists as you were saying, Garrett,
who says, no, I only operate by fact. I believe
only things that can be proven. Well, that's not what
science does. Science poses a theory that comes from an idea,
and so we test the hypothesis and when we report
(40:57):
the data, we say, based on the evidence, it's as
that this may be the case. In all good science
leads room for another possible alternative. Science doesn't prove anything.
We posit theories that have the data to support or
reject hypotheses.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
To develop a worldview that's based only off of science.
That is not science. That's theology.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Huh, that's faith right.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Like literally, you're saying, I won't only live by what
I can see. Many scientists that is what they live by.
They're saying, like, if I can't see it, I won't
live by it. That's a theology. That's not a science.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah. Man.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
So so the flea story and what you just said
there is it's amazing because what you intimated and I'm
always I'm like, I feel like it's always my job
to extract things and hopefully make them as plain as
possible so other people can grasp them. You're basically saying like,
because what you said straight away was like, imagine if
we took that flea and put it around a bunch
of other fleas who could jump more than thirty six inches.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
The interesting part of that study would be how many fleas? Right?
If you put one flea next to the flea that's limited,
maybe it might not jump, like, how many other fleas
does it have to see jumping rebel it's height before
it finally says, oh, I guess I can probably do
that too. And guess what.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
We're not fleas. We're men, So like, I.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Don't take my cues from fleas, but I thought what
was interesting because I'm always interested in Okay, we've uncovered
a problem. We all have limiting beliefs, and I mean,
I want to hear your definition of limited beliefs.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
But what's before you get there?
Speaker 3 (42:22):
You kind of already gave us the answer because like
the natural things like well, how do I change it?
And you're what you recommended there was imagine if you
put around another community, aka.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Who are you spending your time with? Am I reading
that correctly?
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, to a degree, and not that it's not the
whole story, but there is something to be said for
the power of community. So it's a little bit like
the you know, the Rat Park studies from the nineteen
seventies in Canada where they took drug addicted rats fully
drug addicted, heroin addicted, and then place them into a
community of rats who were drug free, and even when
(42:55):
they were presented with the opportunity to take caroin, they
would actively avoid it, like the of the rats in
the community. And so what is it that creates community?
Speaker 4 (43:04):
I've heard that study before. That's really cool.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah, So it's, uh, you know, there's power in there's
safety in numbers. But it has to be the right
kind of community because if you're just hanging out with
fellow drug addicts, well, that's only going to reinforce your addiction.
So begs the question who you're hanging out with, because
it might influence what you believe.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, and it's what we say. What we talk about
is what we're always going to talk about, Like pasture,
Keith says, Okay, so we've talked about living beliefs. Do
you have a definition that like is ready in your
head for a limiting If someone said, like, what's the
limiting belief, do you have a ready answer?
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, okay, human being, we all have these limiting beliefs.
And the beauty of this conversation is how do I
lift the lid off of my jar? And the thing
is the fleas don't know. We don't know what our
limiting beliefs, you know, are well that's just what you
can do, right, like surely, And so we just have
(43:59):
these default conclusions that we're formed, and we don't think
it's a limiting belief. We just well, that's the con conclusion.
So when we experience something by whether it be hanging
out with other people or going on a journey and
an adventure with God, and he reveals, you know, look
at I look at the life of Peter, this guy
who was hanging out with the main man himself Jesus, Like,
(44:22):
this guy is witnessing miracles. He's doing all sorts of
different things and he even participated in miracles. Like he's like, Jesus,
is that you walking on the water if it is
like command me to come on out and sure, come
on down, and so Peter walks on the freaking water.
I mean, this is amazing, and then he starts sinking.
The point being you can be standing right in front
of Jesus and still be sinking in your life. It's
(44:45):
not until you get a revelation of who he really
is that thing starts to change. And that's what ultimately
happened in the end of the story. You know, people,
he asks the disciples, you know, who do people say
that I am? And Peter says, well, you're You're the Christ.
All of a sudden, God, you're the one we've been
waiting for. You're the Messiah. And He's like, yeah, see,
flesh and blood didn't reveal that to you. Your your
(45:06):
experiences alone didn't help you form that belief. It was
a revelation from the throne room above. The Father himself
has revealed that to you. So our community, our experiences
they are good, but they only take us so far.
At the end of the day, we also need a revelation.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Yeah, man, the what's so fascinating about that?
Speaker 2 (45:31):
You've seen that?
Speaker 3 (45:32):
For so because I thought about this stuff a lot.
When for the Israelites, they if you were a Hebrew.
You grew up hearing scripture, going to the synagogue, Like
your identity was tied to what we would call, you know,
religion if you're synecal.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
And just understand this for those of you who listening right,
many of you listening are American. If you come from
a different culture, it makes even more sense to you.
But their beliefs were older to them, yes, than what
it means to be an American. To us, we have
so much hit. We have two hundred and fifty years
of history of like this is the identity and the
soul of America. And many of these people are hundreds
and hundreds of years into you know, a set of
(46:09):
beliefs and a set of cultural identity.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Yeah, and that that's exactly my point. So it's a
thous's I actually would be thousands of us by the
time that Peter was around. So for you've got stories
of like I think it's amazing they talked about Abraham,
Isaac and Jacob like we don't talk about like you know,
Leonardo DaVinci Michael, Like we don't talk about it in
modern day times. We don't even talk about like Abraham
Lincoln gets some mentions here and there because he had
a few good quotes that stuck around, but they talk
(46:32):
about the patriarchs in such a different way. So to
have that revelation of like, hey, wait, this has been
throughout our scripture and like God's been talking to people
that we know he talked to, and he's been hinting
and intimating, and now this is the guy. Like for
you can make that an intellectual thing, but it wasn't intellectual,
right because it was only when the Holy Spirit came
at Pentecost that they really you know, the dude who
(46:54):
forty days earlier like was going like I don't know,
the guy is now standing up and boldly proclaiming. And
that's what you're saying, is like it's like we can
have experiences, we can have community, but until it's like
you have the real revelation aka in actual relationship with God. Man,
it's like if people can't tell you you know, oh well,
your change is kind of gradual, like you know, it's radical,
(47:15):
right whenever you actually know God like that.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Yeah, And I think what you guys were saying before
about when you seek you will find God is such
a good God. He's you know, the scientist quote is
you know if God exists, and why did he go
to such lengths to hide himself. Well, he've been looking,
like just open your eyes, look around half a second
and when you see, but.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Seek me with all your heart. I don't expect him
to reveal himself to you.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
That's it. And because he loves us and longs to
be in a relationship with us. In fact, you do anything,
including sending his own son, like he would love the
idea of somebody going, oh, really, authentically, God, I want
to know you. And when that takes place, he just
loves to reveal himself.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
And I think it's the the part that goes with that,
not just the one to know you, but be willing
to accept what will come from knowing him. Because one
of the stories in the Bible that is so revelational
to me. This is why so many people I feel
like deny Christ is the last time Jesus is in
the temple, last time he's in the temple. The Pharisees say,
(48:20):
you know, are you the Messiah? He says, I'll answer
answer your question if you'll answer mine. And the question
he asked them is is John the Baptist a prophet
of God? And of course he is right. Everyone had
declared that he's the first prophet in hundreds of years.
And if the Pharisees had said no, John the Baptist
isn't a prophet, then they would have been thrown out
of the temple for heresy because he was said population right,
(48:42):
John the Baptist had been accepted as a prophet. If
they had said yes, then Jesus's response is going to
be well, John the Baptist is a prophet. He declared
that I'm the Messiah. So there's your answer. And so
what they said back to him was we don't know,
and they knew the answer. The reason they said they
don't know is because they didn't like what that answer. Men,
And you won't You won't find God when you find it.
(49:04):
You've already decided I don't want to accept what if
I did find him, it would mean.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Oh, isn't that good? Because that takes limiting beliefs to
a whole new level. That's a willful ignorance.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
Yeah, it's you, like you, You're going to get out
of limiting beliefs if you really have like I would
love to get beyond this. Just show me that I can, right, right,
you have to have that like and again it's a
reference back to one of my favorite movies. Right, Neo
goes to multiple confrontations of a test of like are
you willing to accept what this means? And each time
he is yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
And that that's what's so interesting to me, because there's
always you know, you want to have like, Oh, here's
exactly what you do to uncover limiting beliefs. But what
we're saying is you have to be willing to face
the prospect that maybe what you believe is wrong and
actually have an objective view of the quote unquote data
or whatever or the experience that's coming back to you,
Like maybe what I think about money, maybe what I
think about relationships isn't working.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Aka, I'm looking at my life.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
If I showed you your mindset has caused all the problem,
the most pain problems you've had in the last decade.
Are you willing to swallow that pain? Be humble and
confront change.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
You like humility, don't you? Doctor Robbie. We talked about
this briefly.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Oh man, it's the beginning of everything. Yeah, if you
can humble yourself. But what I just heard you say, Garrett,
was for the fleas. There's a degree where we go,
we didn't know that you could jump higher than was
it thirty six inches?
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Very six inches? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (50:22):
And then there's another dynamic that says, well, we know
that it's possible, but then that presents the responsibility of
us getting out of the jar, and we don't know
what's out there. Yes, and therefore no, it's not possible
to jump more than thirty six And so we become
willfully ignorant so as to not have to face the
(50:42):
fear of the unknown.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
And it's almost like that's why we talk about fear
all the time, gee, because people are so afraid of
the unknown. And until you can embrace and certainty, you're
going to keep getting more of what you got pain.
When pain governs you, you'll never reach your full potential.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Man, well, I feel like we've reached the logical conclusion.
Is there anything I'm missing, doctor r Is there anything
I should have asked you that I did not ask you?
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah? You should have asked me more about the report
that we did on Garrett's psychological makeup. That was ten
and but there's no time for that, so we'll lef
to regroup another time.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
Well, doctor Robbie Man, I love having you on here.
Thank you so much because guess what, Doctor Abby's gonna
go off and preach it our church chow for the
next couple of services. And I don't even know what
else you have on So thank you so much for
coming in early, just being the massive blessing that you are.
Is there anything like people can find you at doctor
Robbie dot com?
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (51:33):
And you don't really, I mean, you're you're doing so
many things that we're not going to talk about. But like,
just just if you're listening to this and you want
to be a blessing to doctor Robbie, pray for him
because just know that he is advancing the Kingdom of
God and he is a man who's all about it.
So I will just say I can't wait to have
you on here again. It's been awesome hanging out with
you guys. Thanks for the coffee.
Speaker 5 (51:55):
Thank you very much for listening. Guys, Remember to share,
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Speaker 2 (52:03):
We appreciate it all.
Speaker 5 (52:04):
If you want to get in touch, you can follow
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Speaker 2 (52:09):
You'll find us on there.
Speaker 5 (52:10):
You can also email at Impossible Life Podcasts at gmail
dot com if you have any questions. If you want
to get in touch and find out about Garrett's personal
or business coaching, that's the way to do it. Thank
you again for listening. Go out there and think better
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