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December 15, 2025 47 mins
In this episode of The Impossible Life Podcast, Garrett and Nick unpack one of the most important concepts for living a focused, purpose-driven life: your winning philosophy—the unique combination of beliefs, strengths, endurance, and principles that determine where you succeed and where you struggle.

Nick shares how he recently discovered his own winning philosophy — a pattern that had been showing up in his life long before he ever had language for it. Nick breaks down his own, revealing how understanding his natural wiring transformed the way he leads and helps others rise.

This episode will help you stop wasting time on pursuits you can’t win at… and stop quitting the ones God designed you to win.

This episode goes in depth into the 4 elements of a winning philosophy. They are:


  • Beliefs — what you really believe, proven by your actions
  • Giftings — your natural inclinations, strengths, and advantages
  • Endurance — how long you can stay in the fight
  • Principles — the patterns and truths you observe through experience


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Speaker 1 (00:01):
God made you for a purpose, right, and winning is
you achieving that purpose that God puts you on the
earth for. That's my definition of whin Now, if your
definition of win is you become the richest person in
the world, you become the best athlete in the world.
If you have a definition that is comparative to other people,
this isn't the podcast for you. I can't help you.

(00:23):
You are opposing God's design for your life.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
That's impossible. Let me tell you what I believe.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's your weakness.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's not your technique. Don't think you know you the
Impossible Life Podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I mean you're sitting on a winning lottery. Second, an
idea that is fully formed, fully understood, that sticks. This
is the Impossible Life Podcast because Nick and I are
attempting to live impossible lives. What we know is that
nothing is impossible. So instead of using impossible as an

(01:01):
excuse to not try, we'll use the pursuit of impossible
as an accelerant for greatness. If something's never been done before,
that just means it's unexplored. If they tell you it's
too hard, it's just waiting to be simplified. Impossible as
a default label used by uncourageous people unwilling to take

(01:22):
a risk. The real truth is this the solution to
any impossible task? Starts with this question, if I had to,
what would it take? Would it take?

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Welcome to another episode of the Impossible Life Podcast. I'm
your co host next Surface, and I'm looking across as
a man who doesn't own a single mirror. That's right, friends,
the phone, Garrett uncle back, a man who sees no
reflection when he looks in the mirror because there can
be only one Garrett un Bock. Yeah, this file that

(01:57):
one friendly in the class. It made me laugh and
that was the only requirement that I needed in my
amused brain when I wrote that at five a m.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
This morning.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
AnyWho, gee we are We're going to an only but
a goody.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I feel like we're It does kind of line up
with our episode today.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah you know what, back to my thematic theme of interest,
which I didn't realize I was doing. Yeah, man, like,
so we're covering winning philosophy again. And I say again
because we touched on this originally an episode because it's
you Yeah, there you go. But but this is episode
eighty nine and everybody wishes they were like highlander, like
there can be only one, right, like where you're just
so uniquely gifted, like that you are the one. Uh

(02:36):
spoiler alert, that is not that is not the common
winning philosophy. We're going to get more into this because.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
You are the one. You're the only you.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yes, and to get into that so much of like
your purpose and everything is tied into what we're doing today.
And I feel like, you know, we talk about purpose
all the time, and we're going to continue to talk
about it. But winning philosophy for me has been one
that I remember when you first said it. Pisode eighty
nine was back in twenty twenty three, so we've been
doing the podcast for about two almost two years at
that point, and here we are now for and a

(03:07):
bit in and I will say that I really feel
like I honed in on mine recently. And so I'm
saying that because I hope it's an encouragement for people
that if you hear this and you're like, oh, I
don't know what it is like with so much of
this stuff. It's like with anything, if you're not willing
to stay with it, you're gonna you're never gonna find it.
Like there's some things that you have to understand you're
you're like going, you can't go for a hundred mile

(03:27):
run and say, well, can I do it in an hour? No, Like,
it's literally impossible. So, like some things, you have to
understand that you're you're signing up for a good achievement
in a vehicle, right, Yeah, exactly if you could go
one hundred miles in an an hour in a vehicle,
like you know, first of all, well done for avoiding
the cops. Second of all, like you know, wow, but
so but that is a good analogy for life because
I'm personally I'm feeling so encouraged right now. Gee, because like,

(03:49):
by the way, side, note, if you're not in our
school community, go, I'll put a link in the show notes.
Actually I didn't plan on saens. You can join our
school community for free. There's literally you don't have to
pay a single thing to be in it, and you
can be around. At this point, we have sixteen hundred
plus other impossible life listeners. The community that's developing in
there is such an encouragement to me. It's exactly what

(04:09):
we wanted to do on this podcast. You was to
develop a place where people who are like minded come
in and encourage each other. There's conversations between people who
don't know each other, and I'm looking at them that
I love.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
The other day, I was in there and they were
going back and forth on a topic, trying to like
understand what we were talking about, and I was just
about to comment, and then I saw your comment and
I was like, great answer.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, but I love that, Like that's what we want,
Like that's what we pointed.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
That was.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, like school was what we we wanted, but we
didn't know we needed. So shout out to Alex Mormosi
for buying it and making it more popular. But it's
such a great community. You can literally come in, guys.
There's a chat room. We have it by It's not
one of those annoying chat rooms. It's you can literally
just go in there and you can like there's people
asking good, meaningful questions and wrestling with things that should
be wrestled with. So like, I just want to let
you know if you're don't there.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Come in there with your nonsense, because you will get
booted immediately.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
We ban people who come in and say, like I
used to only make five hundred dollars a month, Now
I'm make fifteen thousand in four hours today did yeah
by your band? So don't do that. But anyways, So
but what I love about all that is that you're
you can come in there and wrestle with other people,
or wrestle with difficult questions and have the help of people,
so you're not going on your own. Well, this is
winning philosophy is one of these things that needs to
be wrestled with. And so today what we're going to

(05:17):
do is we're going to talk about some of the
misconceptions of it. We're going to literally show you how
to find your winning philosophy. We're also going to share
our own to hopefully show you what they look like. Angie,
you are the man who literally introduced this to me,
so I think it would be remiss if I did
not say, what is your winning philosophy? So you can
share with the folks.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Well where winning philosophy started. And you'll hear this back
in the original episode. For me, was you know, like
as a kid, at least for boys. I don't know
what it's like to grow up as a little girl.
But if you grow up as a little boy, you
play lots of games outside with your friends. Hopefully play
lots of games outside with your friends, and naturally you
start to you know, make and create games. You come

(05:54):
up with games, and it's not out of a bad intent,
but you start to create, like you may make up
games and you start changing the rules for sure, and
you're going to change the rules in the way that
they would benefit you. Right, if you're if you're just
making a game, you're not going to make a game
that you would lose at, right, You're going to make
the game that you would win at. And well, well,
let's you know, if you're if you're really fast over

(06:18):
long distances, you're going to try to make you're gonna
make the field longer, right, You're not gonna make a
short field if you if it takes you some time
to get up to speed. It was just a great
example of how, even at a young age, you're naturally
going to start to develop like a game that you
could win at. And that's the point of winning philosophy
is that everyone has a game that they win at. Uh,
there's things that you are meant to win at, and
there's things that you will rarely, if ever win at. Right,

(06:41):
You're not meant to win at every single thing we'll
get into our definition of win here in a minute.
For me as a person, I have a lot of
different skills. I kind of am a leatherman in a way,
even though I would tell you I look down on
leatherman as a tool because it's it's it's not the
only good tool on a leatherman is the pliers. Everything

(07:03):
everything else on a leatherman is not a very good tool.
You would much rather have a specialized tool. Yeah, And
so I said to say, I'm kind of like a
leatherman as a person. I just have a lot of
random abilities because I want to be useful in every
single way. My winning philosophy is not a leatherman r.
I don't think I'm meant to win at every single thing,
but I do know how I win with my set

(07:24):
of tools and a lot of different scenarios.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Okay, you still didn't tell people what you're winning philosophy.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Okay, you want me to do.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I want you to tell you. I want you to
tell them what your winning philosophy is.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
It's a couple of things. So when I look back
really over my life, and this is kind of how
like patterns show up in your life. And sometimes when
you when a when a pattern sticks out to you,
it's it's been there for a long time. Your brain's
just just now recognizing it. And when I first realized
some of my patterns I look back in my life,
was like, dang, this's been this has been there the

(07:53):
whole time. I just didn't see it till I was
much older, you know, my late teens or in my twenties.
And one of those was winning philosophies for me relates
to teams. I've been on a lot of teams where
I was not from an individual skill level, I was
not the greatest skill person. There were guys who I
competed in professional video games, I was the worst. And

(08:16):
like when we would play play Free for All as
a team, I would I would rarely ever win. I
was usually middle of the field and there were you know,
other guys would win all the time. Like when we
would you know, scramble as a team, I was usually
in the middle. Rarely did I beat everyone on my
team when we would scramble as a team.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
You're playing first person shooters on assuming.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, okay, and this was this is a long time ago,
you know, before esports was such a big deal. I
played in what years was that that was six o
seven and the point was on that team, I was
the leader of the team. But I was not the
best shooter. And There's been a lot of teams in
my life where I wasn't necessarily the greatest skill set person,

(08:58):
but I was the leader. And the reason I was
leaders because one of one of the things that I
do really well that helps a group win is I
know where to put people. I know how to encourage people,
I know how to get people in the right place.
I know what the team needs to do. So for me,
like one of my winning philosophies is I'm going to
gather a great team around me, and I know how
to lead that team. I'm a strategic thinker. I'm a

(09:21):
chaos navigator, which means I know what to do in
really difficult circumstances. A lot of people are like, dude,
I just tell me what to do and I can
do it. Well. I know what to do. I'll tell
you what to do. And I could spend a long
time talking about my winning philosophy, but that's just one
of like my edges, because the other way to say
winning philosophy is like your winning edge, what are you
better at than other people? Right, because you're not better

(09:43):
than everybody at everything, And again winning philosophy, most people
they're meant to win a game that is, like I said,
it's that game you made as a kid where you
created this game and it's kind of a unique set
of rules, but this is the game that you win at.
In life, you want to figure out what that game
is that like, what do you always win at? So
for me, one of those is having the right teams.

(10:05):
I'm a great culture builder. It's one of my favorite
things to talk about. I think it's even at Union.
It's one of our edges. Are people who work with us,
our investors, people coming just like, man, you guys have
such you know, great culture and we're really only a
year in. It takes a lot longer than a year
to develop a culture. And so that that's another one
for me, which is it's getting focused on the right purpose.

(10:28):
It's understanding that balance, like we've talked about between purpose
and standards, how to push people to want the most,
to get the most right. These are a few of
the things that I know I'm really good at that
allow me to win in certain areas.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Right now, what is. I love about what you said
is and we're gonna get into some of the misconceptions,
but I was thinking whenever you said that about like
these are what makes me win and knowing those things
what's so powerful about having this about having to understand
what winn philosophy will do for you, So like when
you know what you're good at and you know the
games you can play. I'm thinking of like your brother
in law who's jacked and like one of my best

(11:00):
friends as well, Josh Right, he's like his wiser refrigerator.
He's very, very strong. The natural kind of like this
is where some like quote unquote good beliefs and like
can turn into things that end up being a massive
waste of time because like, especially in America, we have
this like you can be anything, Like yeah, the American
dream is that somebody who came from nothing can go
and pursue any dream and like see it fulfilled. Like

(11:22):
that's what we believe in and that is a good thing,
but it needs to be applied with wisdom. If I
decide that my job now is that I'm going to
be a way better powerlifter, I'm gonna be the strongest
person in the world. Well, I gotta look at what.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
I Josh's natural ability is better than what your refined
ability is.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
From a I just got up off the couch and
just put up some weight, He's gonna be so far
beyond me. And so this is the reason I'm saying
that is because we all like it would be foolish
for you to look like we all know, like to
go play Michael Jordan in basketball at his prime would
be a losing not to.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Be like, a major negative. But it's it's why I've
never really liked the story of Rudy Rudiger, Right, Okay,
It's like that would have been like you saying like, oh,
I want to be like I want to be one
of the world's greatest powerlifters. Just like dude, you, yeah,
that's not what you're supposed to do. God did not
make me be a powerlifter. There's a lot of evidence
and just some very simple observations. And so we when
we say it like that, and I'm using myself as

(12:15):
an example, it's easy to like, well, oh yeah, of course,
but we I think people do this all the time
without realizing. So what a winning philosophy will do is
it'll keep you from wasting time pursuing themes things you
won't win at. And even more importantly, it'll keep you
from quitting the things that you're made to win at.
And that doesn't mean that you know every like if
you're this is a misconception on winning philosophy that you think, well,

(12:38):
I'm not the best in the world at that. Yeah, right,
that's the take. For example, someone you know in basketball,
you may have we're going to talk about the formula
here in a second, but you may have like a
gifting or propensity for a certain sport. Let's just say
like basketball, for example, but you don't end up in
the NBA. Maybe you just end up you were, like,
you know, second string point guard at a decent school

(13:00):
in college. You were gifted, right basketball if you made
it that far, but you weren't as gifted as a
lot of other players and you didn't make it into
the NBA. Does that mean you're just you know, that
was the best you ever had, and you know, sorry
you didn't make it, and I guess your gifts weren't
worth very much. No, that just means you've got gifts, right.
Other people had gifts that took them to the NBA,

(13:20):
you had a gift for basketball, which could have come
from a lot of different specific skill sets, right. Like,
for example, my giftings that led me to become a
Navy sealer are different than other people's giftings, right, And
so your giftings that may have got you to you know, basketball,
you can take those into a different area. Winning philosophy
isn't like you don't win by being number one in

(13:42):
the world.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Right.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
That means not very many people are winners. I believe
everybody is meant to win at their specific game. But
you'll never win if you don't know how to play
your game. And it's also knowing what games you're not
supposed to play, right, Like, I'm one of my other
things that is a part of my winning edge or
winning philosophy, is I'm a really great problem solver, right,
It's why I competed in math and high school. I'm

(14:05):
good at like solving problems. But I am not someone
who wants to sit down and spend a lot of
time writing or someone who wants to sit down and
work out all the formula. There's a lot of skills
that I don't like, have very little propensity for or
know where I'm going to make mistakes. Discipline has taught
me to just manage those areas. But I know we're

(14:26):
probably not going to win as a team if Garrett's
responsible for this, this or this. Yeah, right, And so
I know what games I like. If if the game
requires this, I should be on the field, if the
game requires these other things. I need to get some
of the right people in here on the team. And
that's powerful to know, Like I know that I am.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
You don't want me doing your graphics or your design,
and like you laugh because you work with me and
you know that it's not only that I'm not good
at it. I have no desire for it. I don't
like there's things that's pretty bad. Okay, it's unnecessary. I'm
making the point here, gee, but you know, but being
able to say like things like that, because sometimes people
feel like they have to be good at everything you don't.
I think it's a real strength to know what you're

(15:05):
not good at and be like, hey, this is where
we need to get help. So what we're gonna get
more to that. But you touched on something about winning formula,
and I want to do a fuller episode on this
because I don't think this is This feels like something separate,
but like winning formula plays into winning philosophy.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Right, So yeah, for us to get this is kind
of like defining a win or helping understand where you
can win because everybody, I do believe that everyone is
meant to win, and so what would help with that
is for people. Okay, So if I have a winning
edge or winning philosophy, what is a win look like?
And we'll dive into this deeper in another episode, but
I'll just say this winning formula, let's look at you know,

(15:42):
the real source of truth is the Bible. Yeah, what
does God define as a win is stewardship. Right, those
who are faithful will be rulers over much. Right. I
think most people would define a win as like, Okay,
I succeeded. I grew in capital, I grew in resources,
I grew in time management, I grew in reputation, I

(16:03):
grew in responsibility, I grew in personal development. Right, all
of that is a level of stewardship those who are faithful.
So what does it look like to be faithful in
something that means I'm gonna take care of this, I'm
gonna turn it into more. That's what a win is.
So like we'll go deeper on another episode into winning formula,
but it's also understanding, right, Like in the parable of

(16:25):
the Talents, he gave the guy resources to manage and
what the win was, Okay, you're supposed to turn these
resources into more. He did that a lot of people
would you know, there's the guy who's scared, but then
there's other people who would take resources. Well, I just
kind of wanted to try this thing, or I wanted
to do that.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
No.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Part of winning formula is understanding what I'm supposed to
do with a certain resource, right, And so we'll go
deeper into what a winning formula is on another episode,
but just at a base level, like just so we
have an understanding of winning today to talk about it's
faithfulness and it's stewardship. It's turning something into more. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
I think of that verse that you love Luke twelve
forty eight. I think where it's to who much is given,
much is required, right, and he's talking about the knowledge
that's been given to the apostles.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Well, the question of stewardship is what did you do
with what you've been given? Right? Right? And so winning philosophy, right,
taking winning formula, taking that filter and spinning it back
on winning philosophy, What did you do with what you've
been given? Yeah, you've been given gifts. You're supposed to
do something with it. Right. It would be like the
master gave to the steward. Right, here's you know, here's
seed and tools, and he's like, well, I just didn't

(17:31):
know what to do with it, right, right. I gave
you all the resources that you needed to win, to harvest,
and you did nothing with it, right, right. And that's
what winning philosophy is supposed to, like, help people understand
the tools that God gave them. God gave me a
set of tools. I'm supposed to win with this. You
need to understand how to use them. Yeah, right. Not
everyone has what you have. There is a game you're
supposed to play. And you're also not supposed to take

(17:53):
those fields that were meant to farm the field with
and try to cut down trees with them. Yeah, that's
not going to work.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah. What I also find so in this is like
where I really kind of have always had a bend
for this. I think in that in with that understanding
of its stewardship, somebody that might have been given a lot,
they've been given so much they might be able to
get a result a lot easier that's considered great by
everybody else, but is actually a fraction of what they're
actually capable of, and they're being a bad steward when

(18:19):
whenever there's somebody who's like hustled and had to work
and like taking what little they had and made the
absolute most of it, that maybe doesn't win, you know,
the tournament if we're using sports or have the most
visible business, but they have absolutely run their race. And
I think from like we we won't see it here,
but in the eternity, I think God's gonna be like, hey,
well done, you were good and faithful, and this other
person's like, I gave you so much, and I like

(18:39):
that would kill me to get what Yeah, so good?
All right, all right, so let's dive into ge. We're
gonna break down the elements of winning flash. I'll just
tell you that part of it is it's based on
your beliefs, and we I'm so glad we had doctor
Robbie on last Sunday in this very studio to talk
about like beliefs and so much more. Man, we had
It is funny. We had a lot of comments on
Spotify where people like, I can see why you guys

(18:59):
love this guy. It's like, yeah, doctor probably is the man.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
But when we're gonna talk about beliefs, because winning, like,
one of the biggest parts of winning philosophy is your beliefs.
If you don't have that, right, you're gonna have a
hard time with well winning philosophy.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, and a lot of people don't know their beliefs right.
And I think even at this very one, so very
base belief is that you have to believe that God
made you to win. I when we've talked, we're literally
already we're kind of saying that the word just going
to say it flat out. You have to believe that
God made you to win. And here's the thing. Win
means accomplish the work He puts you on the earth
to do. It's fulfilling your purpose. That's winning.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
And again, for those of you who are new, welcome,
the definition of belief is things you know are true
but can't prove right. You have to you have to
align your life, make decisions in your life based upon
the belief that God made you to win.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Right.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I believe that I live that way. And so if
I lose at something, I'm not like, Oh, well, I
guess I'm meant to be a loser. I say, I
guess this isn't the game I'm supposed to play. Yeah,
it's either there's because there's a couple outcomes for me.
This is either not the game I'm supposed to play
or losing his temporary This is the game I'm supposed
to play, and I'm going to keep going right there,
I'm going to get the right chance. This was just

(20:08):
you know, I can say this was the bad weather,
bad luck came in, or I'm still just developing myself.
It's not my time yet, right, But I will win
eventually if I'm playing the right game or I'm playing
the wrong game. But I believe I'm meant to win. Right.
The ultimate end for me is winning because here's where
that comes from. Where we talk about purpose a ton

(20:29):
on this podcast. God made you for a purpose, yes, right,
and winning is you achieving that purpose that God puts
you on the earth for. That's my definition of win. Now,
if your definition of win is you become the richest
person in the world, you become the best athlete in
the world. Whatever. Like, if you have a definition that
is comparative to other people, you're gonna this isn't the

(20:52):
podcast for you. I can't help you. You are opposing
God's design for your life. Unless you are one of
the unique people that God. God's designed for you was
to be a publicly a massive public success of a
famous person. If that's your definition of win and that
wasn't God's plan for you, good luck, man. I can't now.
I could probably point you in the right direction. I

(21:13):
could show you some tools to help you along the way,
but even if you get close to that, you'll still
feel like a loser because you didn't play the right
game right. And so part of winning philosophy is understanding
your purpose, knowing that God made me to win, and
that's what allows you to get to the end of
your journey. It's like we've made the video game analogy before,

(21:33):
or it's like the game was designed for you to
get to the end and beat the final boss. When
you know that, you'll play the game differently.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
If you don't believe that about your game, you're going
to play a losing game.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, and it's I mean you didn't say the word humility,
but that's absolutely an essentral ingredient. It's to say, like, Okay,
I'm humble enough to know that I want to be
the best aka win my game, which means that I
can't look at somebody else who's winning it their game
and say, well I want to win that game too.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, no, it doesn't work that way. Again, nerd level here,
But if like, you know, you're playing the game and
you were you have to play as a wizard, don't
pick up the sword in the shield. You're like, you
don't have the abilities to win with that. You're meant
to win with.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
A different set of abilities, right, nerds. Nerds, Okay, so
that's the leief one is that God made you to win,
and win means accomplished the work He puts you on
the earth to do.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
And just a just a great quote for you from G. K. Chesterton.
I think this is like, this is some of the
strength that comes from understanding that God made us to win. G. K.
Chesterton said, the one perfectly divine thing, the one glimpse
of God's paradise given on Earth, is to fight a
losing battle and not lose it. And what this looks

(22:41):
like spiritually is understanding that God has God has a
great plan. Yeah. Right, And so sometimes it looks it's
from a typical World League cultural definition, it looks like
a loss. But you can play. You can you can play,
you can win, you can overcome like a winner even
in a losing circumstance because you know that God's going
to be glorified in it one way or the other.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, and here's here's the next thing to know when
you're doing this, Like, your wins are based on what
you can control, right, and let's think about what you
can always control is your thoughts, attitudes, and actions. Right
in this specific scenario, we're talking about your growth and development, right,
you get to pick how like you? I mean, I
feel like your video game analogy is gonna be the
one we just keep going back to. Yeah, it really is,
because you said and it's once again, I love that

(23:24):
people are talking about it. On school that was where
I weighed in with people were talking about what does
max stats look like in my life? And I'm like, yes,
you're starting to think the right way. Well, who controls that?

Speaker 1 (23:34):
You do?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
You get to wake up and be like, you know
what I'm the wizard. So what I'm gonna go out
and do is I'm gonna go start developing spells. I'm
going to get like the level ten wizard Wand you
can tell how much I didn't play those games or
whatever it is that wizards do. Dude, I did. I
played sports games, and yeah, I never wanted.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
To play the sports games because I said, let's just
go play sports.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I did both. Gee, okay, I was like, you know
how you get Yeah, it was it was it was
it play or play video games. I did both. There
you go, there's your levers.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
But but yeah, again, mindset. You got to understand that
your wins are based upon what you can control, right,
not based upon all these other things, because if you
set you there's so much of life that you can't control.
Can't control how tall I am. I can't control when
or where I was born. I can't control what family
I was born into. There's so many things that I
can't control. And if you like that is the definition

(24:22):
of a losing game is think about like, if you
just think about how many different types of lifes there
are and different games that there are out there, and
you've picked some random game from culture that caught your
attention and said I was supposed to win that game.
Your chances of lining up with the god given gifts
and abilities with whatever you saw in the world is

(24:43):
incredibly rare. Right, But you've got to understand, Oh, that's
great for them. But here's what Here's like, I want
to understand what game did God make me to play?
And the reason we fall into that trap is because
it's so much it's entertainment and it's enjoyable to look
at these great stories. But you've got to take that
and say, like, well that was great for them, What
does my story look like? Not try to make you

(25:05):
look like their story? Right?

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, very good, very very good. And you said as well,
you said you already said this, but you don't have
to be number one in the world to win. So
I just want to re emphasize that, and I.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
That's such Yeah, it's frustrate Like it makes sense when
you say it, But people fall into that trap.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
All the time. You see it in sports all the time,
like kids trying to force little Johnny to be.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Like, well, let me say this a different way. You
actually don't have to be that great to win in life, right, right,
Like by definition of like like, true excellence is doing
something in its greatest form. I see people win all
the time who actually are I think, are not impressive, right,
they've just found their game.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I look at people that I this is just you know,
Garrett's personal judgment. I look at them, I don't see
an excellent person, but I see someone who wins right
because they have found the game that they're supposed to play. Right,
when you actually you can again take it back to
video games, when you look at people who've learned the
real rules of the game, they make it look stupid.
Like you look at people who, like you, do speed

(26:05):
runs and games. Yeah, right, they they make it look
so dumb and easy, like they make the game creators
look like they weren't even trying because they've figured out
the rules of the game right, and they can do
it basically in their sleep. And that's again, it's just
because they understand what game are they playing?

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Now, caveat because and we are going to get into
we're literally just about to where the point we're going
to show you how to discover all those things that
help you get your winning philosophy. But part of the
understanding of this so we gave you those beliefs and
part of the understandings you have to understand when does
not mean easy. We're always trying to tear down the misconceptions.
I was talking to Garret about this. We have one
of our friends, Brian and Claudia who are in Mindset Mastery,

(26:45):
who we've literally met through the podcast. Love them. They're amazing.
They came out.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
It's so cool to get to know people.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, it really is. And they came out the frisk
go and we all we got to meet them and
talk to them and go out to dinner and it
was great. And Claudia's brother is this is the only
the reason I always referenced this because she's the only
person I've ever known personally that's had Her brother is
like a piano genius. Literally they were born in another
country in South America, and they came to America because
his piano gifting was so strong. And I said to

(27:09):
I was like, does anyone else in your family play music?
She's like nobody. Now, that is like savants are rare,
And I think that's when people think about my winning Flossy,
like it's so rare that your gift is so strong.
That it overpowers you. What's a lot more common is
that you are given a gift and you have to
hone it into a skill.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
I've seen more people who are like over seven foot
six in my life than I have people with those
types of Oh yeah, for sure, right, and like being
over seven foot six. I saw one. I saw one
the other day when Lindsay and I were out to
dinner and I just I couldn't stop seven foot six.
This dude was massive.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, dube was massive. I checked my height on it
because I was like, I was, you know, you know,
I can yeah, measure in my head and watched him
walk past something on the walls, like, oh my gosh,
that dude is insanely tall.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Right, I've seen multiple people that are that height. I've
seen I've met very few with those types of abilities.
And that's what a lot of people would want. They want, like, oh,
I just want to be like the natural. I just
wanted to be bestowed upon me this correct great gifting,
that I'm so special at this one thing, and it's
obvious to me what the game is that I'm supposed
to play.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, and that's but like that and that's what that's
what we want to make sure that you don't think
this is you're winning philosophy, like we said, because you
don't have to be the best in the world. It's
not this overpower anything that you're like as soon as
I did it, I knew this was what I was
destined to do because I smoked everybody in my path. Remember,
it's based on what you can control. Okay, So, like
and you talked about that's an entitlement philosophy of like, hey,

(28:34):
I'm the best, like everybody thinks I'm the best, and
that's when I get That's that's how I get the trophy. No,
you become You get that by going out and actually
winning the freaking game, right, Like, you've got to play
at it. And so we're gonna get into this because
this all makes sense. It all makes sense here in
a minute. If if you're feeling like, Okay, I've still
not seen it, just know that you have to have
some beliefs around it and understand that it's not there's

(28:58):
no montages. I feel like we've said that a lot
of this podcast. There's no montages where suddenly you just
become undefeated at it and it's really easy.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
It's just it's just not the way it does the
point of these beliefs is that like winning is, actually
it's the faithfulness, it's the fruitfulness. Right, You don't this
is there is some entitlement philosophy to winning that people
have because we live in a world that has done
a lot of validation seeking, and they think like if, well,
if everyone would claim me as the winner, right, if

(29:26):
people would like me enough, then the trophy would just
float into my hands. Yeah, and that's not the case.
You actually don't. You don't need anyone to like you
for you to win. That's a lot of people will
look at, you know, winning as if I just if
I'm have all of the skills, if I have all
of the abilities, if I am seven foot six, then
I would win. There's lots of seven foot six people

(29:48):
who don't win, right and don't make it into the NBA.
So again, it really comes down to understanding what a
win is is it's the faithfulness that turns into fruitfulness. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
So good. And I want to remind you because I
share it the begin of this pot my own winning philosophy,
having been on the original Winning Philosophy podcast and like
very much been a learner on that one. Listening to you.
It's something that I reviewed recently, and I started looking
back on my life and going, man, Okay, there's certain
things that I've realized along the way, and I realized
the reason I win is I win because I'm relational

(30:17):
and I extract greatness, like I maximize the people that
I'm around, And so I started looking at all the
different things. It's funny because early on in this podcast,
we had people like, Hey, I want to come on
your podcast, And one of the things Garrett said from
the early stage, She's like, we will have a very
high standard for guests. I don't want to just have
a bunch of.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Our friends on. Yeah, we've not had very many guests
on the show.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
We have not and the ones that we have, I mean,
if you look at our podcast, it's like, Okay, we've
had a World Series Champion, We've had like New York
Times bestseller like Clinical Psychologists that's helped millions from around
the world and is most recent one. Like, we have
a good standard of guests, super Bowl Champion, Like you know,
that's a good list. And so I remember people would
say like, hey, I want to come on your podcast.
And the first thing I'd say to them was I go, like,

(30:55):
what do you want to talk about? They're like, I
don't know, and I'll go, hey, I got to be
honest with you. If I wasn't the co host, I
wouldn't be on our podcast. Like and like that's that
made that sounds self deprecating, but like that was very true.
And then I started thinking so and the reason I'm
saying that is because, okay, that's true early on and
then I look at like certain things like I co
own a production company. My my partner is phenomenally talented.

(31:17):
He's Emmy Award winning, He's worked on some really cool
UNI makes you look good, Okay, you know, and vice versa. Bro,
it's a it's a team. But thank you for that.
She's always ready to take a shot. But but I
but like if once again from a human a humble
place there, I don't have any business owning a production company.
Like it's not like you would look at my history
of what I've done in my life and be like, oh,
that guy was like he grew up in it. I didn't.

(31:37):
But but what it is, like I said, I'm relational
and I extract greatness. So what happens for me this
where this shows up is A I'm very good at
building relationships with people, Like I look at all my
like the reason I win in my marketing business is
gonna build really strong relationships. B. I extract greatness. So
I see things that are opportunities and I pull them out.
And I don't know if I've been an early adopter.
I feel like I was early on with you, which

(31:59):
which blew me away. But like I was kind of like,
why is nobody else like seeking this guy out? This
is crazy to me? But like it's the same thing
with Matt. I was like, you were so talented and
you're just being completely underutilized With my customers, like I'm
constantly shaying showing like, hey, here's the opportunity. Now. I
would love to say they all take me up on it.
They don't. But but when I start to see that
over and over and over again, and I start going

(32:19):
even with my wife, I'm like, you know what, man,
I met this phenomenal woman when I was twenty one
years old. Praise the Lord. I met her early because
she would not have been around for long. My wife
is you know, she's just phenomenal wife material. And once again,
we built a great relationship as friends and when the
time was right, we got together so over and over
and over again. And I'm giving you three quick ones.
I could go through my whole life and talk about this,
but that would be a very boring podcast for anyone

(32:41):
except for my mom. And But but I'm saying I
look back when I realized, and it's only recently now.
Even with what we do, we spend so many hours
together a week, focusing on growth, focusing on like running
after God in my own time, I do this and
even with all that, it took me a while to
do that. I'm saying that to be an encouragement once again.
You're not going to run on the hundred mile ultramary
phone in an hour, so I want to encourage you.

(33:02):
But we're gonna we're going to give you what I
didn't have, which is we're going to give you the
elements and give you the breakdown so you can you
can get into us.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
So when we talked about winning philosophy before the first
episode years ago, we really just kind of focused on
like the winning edge piece, and so I want to
kind of this has all been there, but I want
to expand the formula a little bit. So we started
off with beliefs. Right. The beginning of your winning philosophy
is your beliefs. Right. Some of my belief that have

(33:29):
led me like personal beliefs, not just biblical beliefs. It's
the infinite potential unlock. Right. God is a purpose. God
is a plan for my life. That's purpose. And then
the second piece is you can have anything you want
if you're willing to pay the price for it. That's potential.
I believe that if I, if I develop myself, there
is greatness on the other side of that. If you

(33:51):
don't believe that, you're not going to get there, right,
or it's Henry Ford's whether you think you can or
you think you can't, you're right, right. I'm just giving
an example of the beliefs. Your beliefs are going to
set you up for success or set you up for failure.
When I look back at my beliefs in my life,
i've since I was very young. And this is if
I want to point out the things that are maybe

(34:12):
different in me, it's not that much, but the things
that have set me apart. So I can tell you
from a very young age, I aspired to greatness, right,
I mean, from like eleven or twelve, I decided, like, man,
I want to do something great with my life. And
what that forced me to do is as beliefs came
in that were contrary to that, I realized that I
got to choose, right, Like, there's parts of those beliefs

(34:34):
that are true, there's also parts that were not. And
I decided what I was going to believe in and
what I was going to stand on. And so in
the desire for greatness, when things that would come in
to my life that would say, well, you're not great,
I would say, well, I'm not great in that way, right,
And so like was very I was very clear to refoe,
well I'm not that type of great. But I knew

(34:55):
I was meant to be great. And so what that
allowed me to and again I'm just talking about like
some of my my own journey in the shaping of
beliefs that's allowed me over the majority of my life
to develop beliefs that were constantly pushing me in the
direction of the way that I would win. I knew
I was meant to be great, and when I would
go up against people who were great, and I wasn't
like them. I said, well, I guess I'm just not

(35:16):
that type of great And so all that did was
I got closer and closer to what greatness was supposed
to look like for me. But your beliefs are either
going to set you up for success or set you
up for failure. The second piece is your unique giftings, right,
Like giftings is like it's what God gave you. It's
what's unique and special about you. We cover some of
that in Mindset Master. We've got some great handouts that

(35:38):
help people discover some of their unique giftings. Maybe you
know yours, maybe you don't, but there's like things that
you that are about the way that you are, that
you're not like other people in that. That is one
piece of it. Claudia's brother's ability to play the piano,
that's a unique gifting, but that's not all of his
winning formula. If you could just play the piano really well,

(36:00):
other things that you got to do to get to greatness, right,
And for each of us, we have some unique giftings.
Some of us they're more obvious than others. And life's
not fair. You know, some people are seven foot six
in the NBA, some people are seven foot right, like
one guy got more than the other. But the greatest
players in the NBA are not all of the tallest
players of the NBA. So just one of your stat

(36:21):
attributes does not determine your level of success or your
level of greatness. It just sometimes when you're like max
stated in an area your height or your ability to
play piano, it just makes it a little bit more
obvious maybe which direction you're supposed to go when you've
got like stats in a lot of different areas. Again,
you see this in video game RPGs. You got characters.
It's like, well, I can kind of play both sides

(36:41):
of the game, right, but that you still have to
take your unique gifts and that's going to be a
part of your winning philosopher. But that's not all of it.
The next thing that's going to get you to winning
in life is your measure of endurance. What is an
endurance is the ability, It's the hippomony, It's the ability
to stay under the weight if you were born to
and I give you all of the gifts to win,

(37:02):
but you won't stay in the game if you won't
develop yourself right it's quitting a video game halfway through.
There is a path to win, and you are designed
to win the game, but you just didn't finish. You'll
never win if you don't finish the game. So when
you have the beliefs, you've got to decide, I'll just
I'm going to stay in as long as it takes.
Joseph by year five probably was like, I'm ready, I'm

(37:25):
ready to go. God put me in the game eight
more years. Dude, you're gonna sit in prison for another
eight years. You may think you're ready. I don't think
you're ready. The time is not now. You've got to
have the endurance to stay in the game as long
as it takes right. God's plan for you may not
look like your plan. In fact, like pretty much for
all of us, his plan's not going to look like

(37:45):
our plan. But what part of my one of my
beliefs that encourages my endurance is that God's plan is
better than mine. And so sometimes my plan is just
a distraction, or my plan is even a form of encouragement.
Sometimes my plan is just taking the big thing and
breaking it down. I'm just going to focus on this
in the season, and I get there and it didn't
work out. I'm not discouraged by that. God gives me

(38:08):
new vision and I continue to redirect and I know
that I'm just going further and further along with his plan.
But you have to have the endurance to stay in
the game or you'll never succeed if you quit. And
then here's the last piece, right of winning philosophy, because
your unique gifts things, your winning edge, that's a big
piece of it. But you've got to get all of
this stuff. You've got to have the beliefs, got to

(38:29):
have the giftings, got to have the endurance to keep
playing the game. But here's the last piece, is your
understanding of principles. I didn't talk about this in the
original Winning Philosophy because we were still talking about principles
a lot on the podcast, and I kind of kept
these things separate. But really I see how much they
are together, and this for a lot of people, this

(38:49):
is the last piece. And then finally figuring out how
to win. Principles govern outcomes. That's what they do. Principles
governmentut comes. This is the way that the world works.
You can have natural ability, you can have endurance, you
can have beliefs that you're meant to win. But if
you don't know how to play the game. You are
a young steward with lots of ambition, believing that you're

(39:11):
going to win, and you don't know how the market works.
If you don't know how the market works, the market
will spit you up and chew you out and make
you feel like a loser because you don't know the
rules of the game. Principles teaches you the rules of
the game, what governs outcomes. And again this is where
you see people right like the guys who hack video
games and speed run them. They understand the principles of

(39:32):
the game and they make the game look dumb instead
of the game making them look dumb. Principles allows you
to understand what is the easiest and most efficient way
to success in this game. And if you don't have
an understanding of principles, you can be highly gifted. And
we see these people in the world sometimes highly gifted,
highly talented, and they can't succeed because they have thought

(39:54):
that their gift overcomes reality and it does not. Your
gift sets you up for success. Maybe you get off
line a little bit faster than other people. Maybe you're
a little bit closer to the rim than other people,
and you can dunk a little bit easier, but it
does not change the rules of the game. You must
understand principles or other than If you don't understand principles,
success is luck for you.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Right now, so much in there g between beliefs, giftings
and durance and principles, that that really is all of
these things are going to require time. Because here here
we've talked about beliefs a lot recently, and so I
guess we could kind of just leave it at that,
but I want to say it because I think it's
so important. The clue to your beliefs is your actions, right,
And like we talked about, doctor Robbie, so many people
have beliefs that are formed at a young age. You've

(40:35):
talked about the beliefs that you had that were formed
at a young age that but they were really good,
solid beliefs that you've kept with you your whole life. For
a lot of people out there, we've got to look
at some of our beliefs and realize, actually, these are
very limiting. These are not good beliefs, but they've been
dictating my action. And you need to change those I
mean in your giftings, I would say if you want to.
If you were saying like, well, how do I discover
that hold on?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
You said something really great there, nick on beliefs, which
is the actions piece. Yeah, like believe there's such a
wrong definition of beliefs. It's like people think beliefs is
what you hold in your heart. Yeah, right, I believe it.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Good for you.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
No, what's in your heart is what's going to come
out of you. And this is where you feel such
a dissonance in your life that you begin you act
outside of your beliefs. Right, if you really believe it,
you'll act on it, not what you say you believe.
Not like man, I can't tell you how much like guys,
I want to be a Navy seal so bad? Do you?

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I've heard it so much just being your friend. It's
surprising to me.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Well, I mean guys in the program that you know,
guys guys quitting, guys quitting and sobbing saying like I
want to be a Navy seal so bad. Well, you're
quitting right now. You obviously don't want to that bad.
There's forty other guys out here on the beach that
want to, and they're still here. So you have convinced
yourself like you've you've ruminated into into this thought process

(41:55):
where you think wanting it is doing it. You've got
to decide, I'm going to act on what I believe.
I'm going to act on what I want. And so
that really the if you want to know what your
beliefs are. And as we were putting this together, I
had a thought that Nick and I are going to
come back on beliefs and show people how to shape
them a little bit better. But ultimately, your beliefs is
what you act on, not what you say you believe,

(42:18):
not what you want to believe. It's what you act on.
Because that's like what is faith. That like faith is believe,
you know, taking action on what you don't yet see.
That's what a belief is. And so if like you
say you believe in God, but every time you get
tested you count on yourself, you don't believe in God.
It doesn't matter how much you say, doesn't matter how

(42:38):
much you read the Bible, doesn't matter how much you
go to church and convince everyone else in your life
that you believe in God. When every time you get tested.
You bet on yourself and you don't bet on God,
you don't believe in God. I'm sorry to tell you
that you've got to decide to act differently. That's what
beliefs will do in your life. And so when you
can accept that reality about you, what my beliefs is,

(42:59):
what I choose to act on, what I choose to
stand on you, then you'll start when you change your
definitive definition of beliefs to a correct definition of beliefs
and then start saying, you know what, I believe God
made me to win. I believe I can do anything
as long as I'm willing to pay the price for it.
And you start to take actions in accordance with a
real definition of beliefs, your life turns very different.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yeah, and that's why I wanted to drop back to
that actions. Yeah, I didn't want to just glaze over that.
On giftings, I always recommend Clifton Strengths Finder. Wonderful tool.
You talked about this, but like comparison will not help
you discover these because some people may be more gifted.
You gave the example of the basketball player who went
to D three. Maybe you really were gifted at basketball.
But you weren't Lebron James. Yeah, so like that does
that mean that you're a failure Michael Jordan Okay, yeah,

(43:42):
but Lebron, Lebron is naturally gifted. We just don't like
his mentality or his lack thereof just being honest. It's true,
that's true. Yeah, that's true. But so but like you
are gifted. And then here's the thing. The reason I
want to just quickly touch on these and we can
wrap is endurance is fueled by belief. Right, we talk
about how purpose is the fuel. If you really believe
that you were supposed to do something, you really believe that,

(44:04):
like you're made to win, why would you ever stop?

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Well, that's because look at the opposite emptiness is depression.
And that's where I could go along on you know,
stoicism and nihilism. People use it as a way out
of pain, but it leads you down a road that
leads to the worst pain, which is emptiness. But on
the other hand, when you know there's a purpose to
what you're doing, that's where I mean. It's one of
the superpowers of following God, Like you can literally face

(44:31):
death and sprint into it. Like with encouragement and veracity
because you know, like this has purpose in it, whereas
other people would be so afraid. Purpose is the ultimate fuel. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
I love that. So when you have the ultimate fuel
to it for endurance, or as.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Victor Frankel said, a man who knows his why can
deal with almost any how.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Yeah, And dealing with almost any how is what's going
to allow you to discover principles. Because you don't discover
principles by going like, huh, there they are. I did
it two times and it worked. No. No, principles come
from massive repetition to observation of patterns and seeing these results.
And so that's why you said that principles is the
last thing, because you need the first three, I think
to get to the point where you understand principles. Because
I've watched a lot of people that we know and

(45:11):
love get frustrated like I just don't know what the
principles are.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
It's like you have paid attention in seventh grade when
they tried to teach you the scientific method. That's your takeaway, truly, truly,
that's I mean, because principles is the science of life. Yeah, right,
like we don't you God made everything with order, not
just gravity, not just biology. Everything is governed by a

(45:34):
set of rules. So when you get your beliefs, when
you understand like, not just that God made me to win,
but here's the things that I'm going to continue, not
just that one, but the other beliefs in your life
that you're going to stand on that you're going to
continue to take determined action in because part of the
greatness of faith, part of the greatness of beliefs, is
it keeps you on one road in your life. Right.
That's why the Bible says a double minded man is

(45:55):
unstable in all his ways. When you can't stand in faith,
you've got to decide I'm gonna have beliefs and I'm
going to stand in this all the way to the end.
Then you take your giftings. This is some of the
unique things that God gave you. This is the what's
in your hand question. When you know what's in your hand,
you know what you're supposed to do. If you don't
understand what's in your hand, you're going to keep wondering
what game you're supposed to be playing. The natural giftings

(46:16):
that God gave you is going to help you understand
that game. Then you have to have endurance. I hate
to tell you, but every game is hard. You're going
to have to stay in the game when it's hard.
When you've got the beliefs, it'll help you stay in
the game. When you stand on purpose, you'll have fuel
to finish your race. And the last piece is the principles.
You must understand what governs outcomes. When you have beliefs,

(46:38):
when you have giftings, when you have endurance, and you
know what governs outcomes, you will finish your race and
you will hear well done, good and faithful servant.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
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Speaker 3 (46:57):
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Speaker 2 (47:14):
Go out there and think better and live the impossible.

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