In-Between: Embracing Self-Love and Healing with Ashley Rossy

My heart is so excited to bring you this week's In-Between. Ashley Rossy, an incredible friend and one of the coolest people I know, joins me on location in her magical garden room down in Gulf Shores, Alabama. This episode is nothing short of beautiful and offers meaningful conversation spread across some difficult topics but always guiding back to self-love. 

Here's a look at what's in store:

• The power of PLAY and putting that into your day-to-day
• Ashley has traveled all over the world, and she shares some of the wisdom she's gained from multiple perspectives
• How her journey brought her back to the states
• .... and the challenging chapter she navigated once she did
• Giving birth to her incredible baby girl and deciding she had to divorce her partner 
  • The grace, kindness, and love she showed herself through this experience
  • The respect she has for herself, her baby, and her ex
• How she got back on her path to healing and finding her divine feminine energy
• Grounding exercise that you can do at home or wherever you hear this episode! 

I appreciate Ashley for sharing her story and experience with our community. If you'd like to follow her, you can see her on IG @AshleyRossyRealtor for more mindful practices and ways to improve your peace.  

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Episode Transcript

Elizabeth (00:06):
Hey, hey, hey.
hey Welcome back to anotherepisode of The Inbetween.
I'm your host, Elizabeth.
And if you can't tell, if you'rewatching this episode, I'm on
location in probably the mostepic Best energy, like I don't
want to leave this space room.
I think I've ever been inoutside of like vacation spots
But I am here with my friendAshley Rossi.

(00:26):
She welcomed me and Stan to herhome this weekend.
She lives in Gulf Shore So we'vebeen living that beach life
We've been talking about doingan episode for like a year at
least right?
I feel like um, so We came downto visit and I was like, let's
record an episode while we'redown here and here we are So
yeah for those watching look atthis space It's literally as

(00:46):
epic as it looks and feels andyou don't even see the behind
the scenes.
But anyways, I digress

Ashley (00:51):
see the jungle from this view.
You just see all the leaves inthe back that I need to blow
eventually.
You know,

Elizabeth (00:58):
You know, we'll do some b roll before before I
leave and I'll tease thisepisode with like and here we
are in the jungle Here comes theepisode

Ashley (01:06):
we need to film it because eventually it's gonna
have a big transformation.
I'm manifesting a new backyard.
By the end of this year, she'sgonna do it, and it's gonna be
like a whole transition.

Elizabeth (01:18):
I can't wait.
Well, if there's one thing I'velearned about you, you are a
woman who speaks her truth andthen sees to it.
So I think that's amazing.
But welcome to the pod.
I love when my friends joinespecially when they have really
interesting things to talkabout, which I guess all my
friends have interesting thingsto talk about.
So I don't know why I even

Ashley (01:35):
we're interesting people.

Elizabeth (01:37):
I agree.
I agree.
So yeah, welcome to the podcast.

Ashley (01:40):
thank you so much.
I'm so glad to be here.

Elizabeth (01:42):
Is this your first time on a

Ashley (01:43):
a podcast.
This is my second time on apodcast.
My first podcast that I was apart of, I, it was a wellness
podcast and we talked a lotabout yoga and yoni eggs and
divine feminine, which we'regonna dive into.
So yeah, I love talking aboutthis stuff.

Elizabeth (02:03):
before we get into anything, how about you let the
audience know a little bit aboutyou?
Because you are one of the firstpeople coolest, most
interesting, authentic people Ihave had the joy of meeting in
this lifetime.
So let the podcast do a littlebit about Ashley.
Yes,

Ashley (02:23):
Rossi.
I live down in South Alabama onthe Gulf of Mexico.
32 miles of beautiful beach,about 10 minutes away from it.
Um, I have a lovely home thatfeeds my soul every single day.
It's my healing space that I'vecreated.
And, funny enough, with work, Ihelp other people find that as

(02:46):
well.
My main career at the moment isreal estate.
But

Elizabeth (02:50):
playing, that's

Ashley (02:51):
Love, light, yoga, meditation, playing.
That's my, my soul's purposeright there.
So to be able to share thatspace with others.
I've been sharing the practiceof yoga for the last decade.
I started that journey in, incollege, actually in Kennesaw.
You know what?
So a few of them, I want to sayour sorority sisters, we were

(03:14):
never in a sorority, but we werefriends with all the girls.

Elizabeth (03:17):
We were default

Ashley (03:18):
Every single party, like, it's just funny, we just,
we just didn't have to do allthe things.

Elizabeth (03:24):
Yeah, we

Ashley (03:25):
And so, um, but anyway, a bunch of the girls from one of
the sororities we used to chillwith, they had a free yoga class
at Kennesaw, and they invited meone day, and that was my first
ever yoga class I went to.
I had to have

Elizabeth (03:39):
to.
I had to sit in a mountain.
No, but let me tell you

Ashley (03:45):
but let me tell you something.
If I had these tools andpractices when I was younger, I
would have bypassed so many lifelessons that I was not meant to
bypass,

Elizabeth (03:55):
to bypass.
Divine lessons.

Ashley (03:57):
Divine lessons.
So, um, but that just kind ofpiqued my interest with
everything.
And then I dove into so muchdepth within all of yoga when I
lived in Thailand and India andthen.
past life for me as well.
I was a scuba instructor at thesame time and traveling all over

(04:17):
the world, just having the mostincredible adventures all
throughout my twenties.
But I landed up back here inSouth Alabama and have just been
rolling with life ever since.
Still teaching a little bit onthe side and just still trying
to find beautiful ways to healthose little deep dark shadows
that we all got to heal so Icould be my best self.

(04:40):
So my daughter, my two year olddaughter,

Elizabeth (04:42):
And she's perfect

Ashley (04:43):
just keeps growing up to be the most divine, amazing,
authentic being.
And she doesn't have to gothrough as many hard things as I
did.
I hope she goes through hardshit.
She

Elizabeth (04:54):
We all will we all will in our own way But like you
heal traumas and it's not to sayto breed new traumas But it's
just different types ofexperiences and I think that
life lessons can be learnedwithout serious trauma So she'll
learn her lessons.
She just won't have maybe allthe scars You To different types
of scars, you know, um one thingthat actually Stan stands here

(05:17):
somewhere I jokingly called himmy production assistant, but
he's already like Pissed off.
He's already pissed off.
So wherever I'm whatever he is.
I hope you having a good timeBut last time we were talking
about You and like yourperspectives on life and how,
you know, we, you and I bothbelieve very similar things, but
like, I feel like you have somuch more rich cultural ties to

(05:39):
it because you've been able totravel around the world and you
have such different perspectivesand you're so grounded.
And Stan and I were both talkingabout it last night and I was
like, you know, You, like,talking about you, so, Ashley,
like, you're all sitting rightnext to me.
I was like, Ashley just is, I'venever met somebody with such
perspective like her.
And Stan goes, it's becauseshe's been able to travel the
world, and she's been able tosee so many different things.

(06:01):
And I think that is justsomething, I don't know why I'm
going off on this, like, thistangent.
the side, the side quest, but Ijust want to say, um, your
experiences, like, and youbringing them back to the Gulf,
like, cause I think maybe that'swhy I was thinking about it.
You said, now I'm back herewherever life takes me.
And it's like, but you broughtso much with you, so much
culture, so many livedexperiences.

(06:23):
And like, even just in theweekend that we've been here, I
feel like my mind has even been,has been more opened than I
could have even meant, likeasked for, or even thought was
going to happen.
Justin, side convos.
Justin, dinner talk.
But I love that, and I loveconnections where, okay, yeah,
this is our appetizer, now let'sjust get into it.

(06:43):
You know what I mean?
You're one of those people whowill like, deep dive right
there.
Like, you're not afraid of it,you're not weirded out by it.
I don't know, it's just you aresuch a great soul, such a great
friend, and um,

Ashley (06:55):
um, I, um, it's great to

Elizabeth (06:56):
It's great to know you because I do feel like I get
a special little bit of magicfrom the universe because of
your experiences.
Because you are so open aboutthem.
But anyway, sorry, wow, I justlike fangirled really hard.
My heart

Ashley (07:09):
is so big right now.
No, thank you, and I'm verygrateful for you too.
I love the energy that you bringand the peace that you've
brought into this house withyour partner, that just like, I
was just telling you thismorning, like, I can trust you
to come in, and like, I canchill, and that's a really
intimate thing to be able to dowith somebody in your home.

(07:31):
Yeah.

Elizabeth (07:32):
that.
I was like, I think it's atestament to like how, go with
the flow, how like, not thatwe're roommates, but it felt
like that.
Like we just, you know, like,Oh, I'll see you later.
I'm going to go to the store.
Like this morning, Sanja'sgetting up, leaving, you and me,
just go fish.
It's like, we're just living ina little pod.

Ashley (07:50):
Just on vacay.
We're

Elizabeth (07:51):
on vacation.
We're not coming back, mom.
Sorry about that.
We are going to look at a house.
So.

Ashley (07:55):
gonna look at a house this afternoon, and I'm so
excited.

Elizabeth (07:58):
love it.
So, but with all that said, um,you do have a special energy
that you bring.
And I think anyone who knows youwould agree.
Um, and part of that is like, I,I don't know.
I probably called you a goddess,a water goddess, like 20 times
yesterday in the ocean,

Ashley (08:15):
in the ocean.
But you I was a water

Elizabeth (08:18):
you were, you were absolute.
I'm like, are mermaids real?
Do they exist?
Are they making a comeback?

Ashley (08:24):
making a

Elizabeth (08:25):
And their name is Ashley Rossi.
but you have a divine energyabout you and, uh, I don't know.
We've talked about past life.
Was it transgressions orregressions this past, uh, this
weekend?
We've talked about lostsocieties.
We've talked about like ourpurpose in life and the great
experiment and that kind ofstuff blew my mind.

(08:46):
But these are the kinds ofconversations that we have.
And of course we're alsoshooting the shit eating gummy
bears because like Of course,you know, um, or we're talking
about my octopus teacher andjust having our minds blown by
the sheer

Ashley (09:00):
I call it, insanity of

Elizabeth (09:01):
beauty, and I call it insanity of life, because it is
insane to live.
That's like my new statement.
I mean it as like a joke,obviously, but like it is insane
to live and experience, so, Ifeel like you feel similarly to
that.
Yeah?

Ashley (09:14):
Yeah.
I love that perspective.
For sure.

Elizabeth (09:17):
So it's, uh, you just found yoga and when you were 19,
which that blows my mind, I'mstill kind of reeling on that.
and then you had all theseamazing world experiences.
So

Ashley (09:27):
so we'll

Elizabeth (09:28):
this is probably a very broad question, so we'll
just like take it and then we'lljust see where we land.
But what are the biggest thingsthat you think you have pulled
from your lived experience towho you are now as a person?
Thank you.

Ashley (09:42):
I love that question.

Elizabeth (09:43):
I'm glad, because I was like, ooh, that was a big
one.
I

Ashley (09:45):
that question.
I mean, obviously, there's somuch gravity to that,

Elizabeth (09:50):
that.
But, kind

Ashley (09:51):
kind of the first thing that came to me was so much more
peace.

Elizabeth (09:55):
so I,

Ashley (09:56):
as we all did through our teenage years and early,
like, 20s and college and Youknow, you, you carry wounds with
you up into those places thatbecome really chaotic and you're
trying to find yourself andfigure it out at 18 years old.

Elizabeth (10:13):
old.
You don't know

Ashley (10:14):
just the dumbest

Elizabeth (10:15):
dumbest concept.
It is! For

Ashley (10:18):
I have ever, for me, it's the silliest thing.
But, um, it really took me,especially with a lot of family
wounding, like we all have ourfamily BS that affects us in one
way and it's been my purpose inthis lifetime to heal so many of
those ancestral wounds.
And so I found that thebeginning of that through yoga

(10:42):
and everything in life is justkind of stacked on from there.
And so the biggest lessons,especially over the last decade
from my travels, from diving,from yoga, from bonds that are
forever

Elizabeth (10:56):
people

Ashley (10:57):
unbroken with people all around the world.
It's

Elizabeth (11:00):
much more peace.
It's

Ashley (11:03):
So much more peace.
It's like Dang, I don't have tocarry that energy.
And I am that power.
I can create my reality.
I manifested myself travelingaround the world.
You know, the way that I did it,too.
I, I remember envisioning, likethe whole visualize.
That was a huge practice that Idid and it really came true.

(11:24):
And I'm trying to find thatagain where I am now because
it's something you got toconstantly come back to and fine
tune throughout those nextchapters.
I like to call it like, I'mlevel 32.

Elizabeth (11:36):
I'm 32 years old.
Well see, whenever I wasvisualizing, like for instance,
Being in

Ashley (11:44):
We'll see, whenever I was visualizing, like for
instance, I remember being incollege And with the girlfriend
saying one day I'm going to liveon my small beautiful island and
a little shack and I'm going tohave a tall, long, blonde
haired, blue eyed island manbringing me coconuts and I mean

(12:05):
I kid you not, that's exactlywhat I had.
Like I, I remember even sittingthere in those moments being
like, wow, I'm powerful.

Elizabeth (12:15):
that's amazing.
And

Ashley (12:16):
hear these stories all the time too.
And it's, it's real.
It is so real.
And if we just

Elizabeth (12:23):
ourselves

Ashley (12:23):
give ourselves a lot more grace and a lot more love
and stop going into these, no,this is, I have to go X, Y, Z,
A, B, C, in this order, in thisdirection.
Like we're all on our ownjourney.
Stop comparing, stop trying tofit in with it all.

Elizabeth (12:38):
it

Ashley (12:39):
Try to find a way to let it flow through you and life is
going to feel so much better.
And you're going to give thatoff too.
And that's what I'm trying tofind.
And they're like, I am.

Elizabeth (12:48):
I am,

Ashley (12:49):
So much more work has to be put in to where I actually
want to be, but I'm willing todo it.

Elizabeth (12:55):
Right.
And you just kind of trust theguidance of the universe.

Ashley (12:58):
I'm just open to whatever comes.
Like, you have an amazing ideathat served you, maybe I can
take something and fuel itthrough me.
You have an amazing, you know,it's like, I'm not closed off to
really too much as long as it's

Elizabeth (13:11):
not, I have to do X, Y, Z, M, N, O, P in this order.
That's such a good call out.
I struggle with that sometimes.
Yeah.
sometimes I'm like, is it myADHD?
Is it my anxiety?
Is it all of the above?
But

Ashley (13:23):
like when we were talking on the car ride going to
yoga, it's continuously comingback to that mindset of this is
a practice.
Like I am constantly, we're soin a dense energy on this earth,
and to keep coming back to thatplace of love that we were born
with, that we were, Divinely,purely gifted and then life

(13:45):
slowly stacks on you through howit should, you know, and we have
to, I think that's the wholepoint is we have to keep coming
back to that practice of loveand remembering and loving
ourselves exactly where you arein that moment.
And that can be really harddepending on what life is thrown
at you.

Elizabeth (14:02):
Right and also just if you don't have like Strong
self love self care practiceslike strong appreciation for
you.
Like you can let that innernegative mental spiral just take
you down.
I know I've had that.
Um, I don't have it as muchanymore, but that was like my
mental, like, Uh, was from likea mountain I had to climb during

(14:23):
my depression spell, um, butgoing back to the love and the
appreciation for where you are,it's also like one thing that I
think has been a theme thisweekend that you've talked about
and your friend Leslie, she waswonderful to me, is play, like
viewing everything as play.
And that doesn't mean likecareless or like not taking
things seriously, but takingthings from an approach of play.

(14:45):
Could you talk a little bit moreabout that?

Ashley (14:47):
Oh my gosh, yes, it's my

Elizabeth (14:48):
at it.
You're so, yeah, yeah, you'revery good

Ashley (14:52):
in yoga there's a Sanskrit word, and it's lila.
And it translates to play, andit's, it's, Meant to be a divine
play.
Whatever you do.
So, it can be childlike, it canbe dancing, it can be If you're
at your work and you're justmaking it fun and giggly or I

(15:15):
mean, really, it's everyone'sown language.
You know it.
How it feels most authentic andmost connected to you.
And so for me, like I love beinghome and I like to dance around
or like act like I'm a tigerwith Naya or a wolf.
And then I have two Huskies.
So like doing the same thingwith them and like, we'll
literally get into it fully andit's just, and sometimes it's

(15:40):
silly, but I love it so much.
And I think that that's justwhat it's about.
Keep coming back to thosepractices of play.
Because the world is constantlytrying to tell you that
something is wrong, something isheavy, something is broken,
something needs to be fixed,something isn't enough.
And damn, it's all enough.
Like, just let it be and befree.

(16:03):
That's it.

Elizabeth (16:04):
just let it be and be free.
That's

Ashley (16:08):
That's a clip.
That's a,

Elizabeth (16:10):
a, that's a clip.
Um, yes, this girl took me tohot yoga today and I don't think
I've ever sweat that much in mylife.
And then I didn't have a towel,so I was slipping and sliding
all over the place.
It was great.
But my neighbor next to me, hetook my towel, but it's all
good.
It definitely made

Ashley (16:25):
There was a lesson

Elizabeth (16:26):
there was a lesson like keep your core tight.
Let it go.
Keep it tight and don't worryabout the squeaking and the
squacking on the, on the yogamat.
But it was great.
Um, yeah, you kind of kicked myass this weekend.
But, um, with the play, like Ijust, I felt that this weekend,
I know there's like a I thinkit's still trending and things

(16:47):
like that, but romanticizingyour life, and that's kind of
what I think of when you sayplay, but play just It's a more
like, I mean hey, pick your,pick your word.
Romanticize, play it up.
But it's this idea of, like yousaid, life is not about
suffering, because there isgonna be suffering.
So like, that just goes, that'sjust a part of the game.
It's just a part of the rules.
It's part of the, the, the,

Ashley (17:07):
yin and the yang.
Exactly.

Elizabeth (17:09):
We didn't even

Ashley (17:10):
this.
We didn't mean to, but we

Elizabeth (17:11):
But yeah, I'm in light and she's in dark.
And I have dark hair and youhave light hair.
I kind of love it.

Ashley (17:17):
Oh my gosh,

Elizabeth (17:19):
We're really

Ashley (17:19):
so cute.
This is amazing.

Elizabeth (17:22):
Oh my goodness.
But it's um, I don't know, it'sjust, it's a reminder that, and
it is so, it is hard, but it'sjust a, you have to constantly
go back to your, find yourgrounding, find, find your
romantic, find your fun, find,Just don't focus on the lack or

(17:42):
the less than or what you likedon't have or the negativity.
yes, you have to exist with itBut like I feel like finding
that existence In the yin andyang world is easier when you
have that fundamental strengthof like love or fun Like kind of
guiding you and your decisionsand your actions and all that

Ashley (17:59):
all that.
Yeah.

Elizabeth (18:00):
I don't know

Ashley (18:01):
know.
I love that.

Elizabeth (18:02):
Do I sound like a rossi student?

Ashley (18:04):
Yes.
Oh, you got it.

Elizabeth (18:08):
Thank you.
Thank you.
well, so you lived this wildlife all over the world.
You saw so many incredibleplaces.
I mean, yesterday you were like,Oh yeah, I went Anaconda
hunting.
Oh my gosh.
It was kind of crazy.
And I'm like, Anaconda hunting,like you're just in the
rainforest anaconda hunting.
Like that is just epic as shit.
Like I can't even, I just can'teven like, you know, shortchange

(18:31):
that.
But then you came back here.
Was that a hard transition?
Like, cause you came back to theStates during COVID.
was that the reason why you guyscame back or were you always
planning to come back?
So

Ashley (18:41):
back?
So we were planning on comingback

Elizabeth (18:45):
we

Ashley (18:45):
for our wedding.
And then we were off to leaveagain.
We were going to move, we weregoing to do six months doing a
motorcycle, uh, trek from Southto North Vietnam.
And then we were going to moveout to Hawaii.
So that was our plan beforeeverything happened with COVID.
So when COVID hit, we wereliving in Cairns, Australia,

(19:08):
working out on the Great BarrierReef.
And living in a share house of14 people, 14 amazing human
beings from all over the world.
Italy, Brazil, Honduras, um, theStates, England, Thailand.
It was awesome how our littlefamily mixed in.

(19:29):
But it was beautiful becausesome people were divers, some
people were chefs, some peoplewere locals that were just, you
know, trying to find their way.
And

Elizabeth (19:38):
when COVID hit,

Ashley (19:40):
When COVID hit, we had a family that was in this place,
and it was interesting trying tonavigate a place of fear with
that, but we also got so muchinformation from all over the
world about what was going on,to where it didn't always feel
like we were reliant on the newsthat you couldn't trust then

(20:00):
either, right?
So, that was beautiful, and wespent Because everything started
to take effect in Australiasooner than it did in the
States.
So we really started to seestuff pop up in January.
And then

Elizabeth (20:16):
three week

Ashley (20:19):
shut down.
And then we left.
We did a three week van ridefrom Cairns down to Melbourne
where we flew out of.

Elizabeth (20:29):
the

Ashley (20:31):
Which was really beautiful, just to be able to
have that last bit going throughAustralia.
Because Australia is so spreadout, and there's not a ton of
people doing that.
So it was peaceful in that state

Elizabeth (20:46):
day

Ashley (20:48):
at the time.

Elizabeth (20:49):
George Floyd

Ashley (20:53):
we were flying out of Australia, It was the day that
George Floyd was killed, and thepolice station caught on fire,
or was put to fire inMinneapolis, and that's where we
were moving to.
Because my ex husband's familywas from Minnesota, and so we
had a big plan.

(21:13):
We were going to go back toMinnesota for a year, anchor
down.
He was going to use his GI Billfrom his time in the Marines to
finish out college, and It wasalso going to pay for part of
our housing, and it just was thesmartest idea, and we didn't
know what was going on at thetime.

(21:33):
But, going from a life of livingin the tropics for a decade on
islands, and to Minnesota,

Elizabeth (21:41):
a

Ashley (21:42):
a pandemic, and also a huge, just like,

Elizabeth (21:47):
like, divide

Ashley (21:48):
in the country, and anger, and fear, and We hadn't
lived in the States for so long,and we knew the energy that we
were coming back to.
So we knew it was going to be achallenge.
And a challenge it was.
I was

Elizabeth (22:04):
I was gonna say, I feel like that anger and divide
is still there today in thiscountry.

Ashley (22:10):
in this country.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
But I think more people want tojoin together in a place of love
than not.
I really do.

Elizabeth (22:17):
agree.
And I do feel like people aremore aware of the divide now.
Does that make sense?
Like, I don't know.
And maybe it's just the people Iattract, like the people, you
know, people in my life are verysimilar to that.
But I do, cause to me, I feellike for change, like I'm not
saying, I'm not naive to thinkthat, oh, awareness is

Ashley (22:35):
awareness is gonna

Elizabeth (22:36):
change, but awareness is the first huge piece of the
puzzle of like figuring thingsout.
And I do feel like there is a, Isense a more general awareness
of like, Hmm, we ain't okay.
We need to, we need to love eachother a little bit more.
Like there, I don't know.
And maybe that's just memanifesting wishful thinking,
but, um, that is definitely aculture shock to go from, A

(22:58):
decade's life experience ofanaconda hunting and going like
all over, all over the worldyou've been and

Ashley (23:07):
life on

Elizabeth (23:08):
kind of living your life on your own terms in a way
I feel like.
Would you agree that to anextent?
Like, maybe not your own termsbut you get to do what you want.
Like you're just, I don't know,I sense freedom.
Like that's the word that keepscoming to mind when I think
about your experiences.
Yeah.
For

Ashley (23:25):
for sure.
It was very freeing.

Elizabeth (23:27):
freeing, the

Ashley (23:28):
I lived out of a backpack for a decade, you know,
and I, I had a partner at thetime that was understanding of
my need to go and explore When Ineeded to go solo for a couple
months in India, or a few monthsin the Caribbean, chasing with

(23:48):
my yoga stuff, or friends, or,I've always been a free spirit
in the sense of, I'm gonna go.

Elizabeth (23:56):
Mmm.
And I love that

Ashley (23:58):
I love that about

Elizabeth (23:59):
I do too.

Ashley (24:00):
So, yeah.

Elizabeth (24:02):
It makes you very authentic.
That's one thing that I, I feelabout you is, it's not even
about like, what you say is whatyou get, but like, it's genuine,
it's authentic energy, I don'thave to second guess it, I don't
have to overthink it, I'm justlike well if Rossi does
something it's because she's puther like some thought into it
and intention behind it Andthat's her decision and like
hmm.

(24:22):
I Believe in that I'm gonnasupport it I don't even have to
know the why the who the whatthe where like I support it
because I know Your intentionsetting and I know like the
effort and work you put intoanything that you do So and I
think that's just I strive toget to that point and I think
I'm getting there but likeThat's something I think we can
all strive towards.
And I'm not trying to say like,Oh, you've got it all figured

(24:43):
out and you're perfect.
It's like, we're all imperfecthumans.
But, you know,

Ashley (24:47):
know, it's,

Elizabeth (24:48):
It's, it's also like, it's like muscle memory.
You know, once you build it,maybe you fall off a little bit,
but once you get back on, thebike, you get back on that yoga
mat, you're gonna find thatrhythm, you're gonna find that
flow, you're gonna find thatmuscle.
so, anyways, with that said.
But, basically, life haddifferent plans, you come to
COVID, you come here, and then,you guys get married, and then

(25:09):
soon after that, you arepregnant, right?

Ashley (25:11):
Yeah, like a, like a couple

Elizabeth (25:13):
I got married

Ashley (25:15):
I, we got married in June of

Elizabeth (25:19):
our wedding

Ashley (25:20):
2020.
We had our wedding then.

Elizabeth (25:23):
got pregnant.

Ashley (25:24):
And then, a few weeks later, I got pregnant.
And I knew that I did not wantto have my baby in Minnesota.
So, I said, it's time to gohome.
And home is Gulf Shores,Alabama.
My family's down here, mygrandparents, my mom, my aunt is
just five hours away up inAtlanta, and I needed to be back

(25:48):
at the beach.
I needed to be in my warm, safespace, somewhere that I felt I
could ground and nest for thisnext big chapter, which was Naya
Ray, the coolest human being toever exist, ever.

Elizabeth (26:03):
who rous a dinosaurs.
I got her like this dinosaurbingo game and she's

Ashley (26:08):
obsessed

Elizabeth (26:09):
she was so smart.
Like she was like matching thecards with like the bingo

Ashley (26:14):
cards so fast,

Elizabeth (26:14):
So fast, so fast.
And I'm, I was still trying tosound out the word and she'd
already found

Ashley (26:18):
Yeah.
We're over here.
Like irritate tour.
That was it.

Elizabeth (26:25):
it.
That was it.
Like, how is a child supposed tolike, say this word?
I can't even say it.
But then again, I can hardlyspeak, so it's fine.

Ashley (26:31):
Words are hard

Elizabeth (26:32):
they are, and I am a podcaster, doop dip dip dip dip.
Like, I can't get it out.
Oh my goodness.
Um, Hmm.
So, Naya comes, but thensomething else happened.
You and, you and your partnerseparate, right?

Ashley (26:48):
separate, right?
We did.
So, about a year after I hadNaya, we got divorced.
And that was the hardestdecision that I've ever had to
make in my life.
And it was a necessary decision.
So when I think about.
My divorce.

(27:09):
You know, on platforms likethis, I want to be very mindful
and intentional of how I speakabout it, because it's such a
personal journey.
It's such a,

Elizabeth (27:20):
families

Ashley (27:21):
you know, families are separated, hearts are broken,
relationships, some are ruined,some are, You know, it's,
there's so much pain that comesinto it, and the pain that leads
up to it as well is so great.

Elizabeth (27:39):
as so

Ashley (27:40):
for me, without going into everything,

Elizabeth (27:44):
where

Ashley (27:45):
where I was in that time was, life was so heavy.
And so much had built up to thatspace,

Elizabeth (27:55):
spoken

Ashley (27:55):
to where,

Elizabeth (27:56):
I

Ashley (27:57):
I've always spoken my truth.
I can't, you'll know exactly howI feel in the moment.
And that's something that I'vealso had to work on over the
years, right?

Elizabeth (28:08):
to,

Ashley (28:08):
a practice, like everything, but just came down
to, I no longer had a partnerthat was

Elizabeth (28:16):
to

Ashley (28:17):
compatible with me.

Elizabeth (28:19):
so much time, so

Ashley (28:21):
it didn't seem like it was going to get there.

Elizabeth (28:25):
our

Ashley (28:26):
Even though time, oh, so much time, so many
opportunities, so much trying inour own ways.
And of course there's alwaysmore that we could have done.
And of course it takes two,

Elizabeth (28:37):
of

Ashley (28:37):
right?
Like it's not all, I'm the onethat wanted a divorce, but it's
not all on him, by any means.
I was so, such a big part in allof that, in my own ways, with my
own traumas, my own stuff.

Elizabeth (28:51):
of that,

Ashley (28:52):
And

Elizabeth (28:53):
ways, my own

Ashley (28:55):
I leaned really hard into my practices, my
meditations,

Elizabeth (29:01):
hypnotherapy,

Ashley (29:02):
my hypnotherapy,

Elizabeth (29:03):
with not only friends

Ashley (29:06):
deep conversations with not only friends but therapists.
I dove into, you know, podcastafter podcast and

Elizabeth (29:17):
this

Ashley (29:18):
I took so much time just sitting with

Elizabeth (29:21):
was,

Ashley (29:22):
was serving me every day.
And it was, it took me from themoment that I knew I was going
to leave.

Elizabeth (29:30):
8

Ashley (29:30):
It took me eight months to get to the space to be able
to actually say the words.
And in that eight month periodwas such a hopeful, such a fear,
such a, I mean I had a baby.
You know?
Yeah.

Elizabeth (29:46):
You know?

Ashley (29:47):
And that's not a light decision whatsoever.
And she needs both of us.

Elizabeth (29:52):
us.
And

Ashley (29:53):
And I'm about to

Elizabeth (29:55):
I wanted

Ashley (29:56):
take away something from her that I always wanted growing
up too.
You know, my parents weren'ttogether.
They were never even married andmy dad wasn't in my life.

Elizabeth (30:04):
Yeah,

Ashley (30:05):
And so

Elizabeth (30:06):
dad so,

Ashley (30:07):
it's just not something that even an ounce of me took
lightly.

Elizabeth (30:10):
took lightly.

Ashley (30:11):
No matter what anyone thinks along the journey, you
know, it's, and it's sopersonal.

Elizabeth (30:18):
say all of

Ashley (30:19):
And so to say all of that,

Elizabeth (30:22):
Um, grief

Ashley (30:22):
there's been deep times of sorrow and grief and mourning
and moments where I felt low anddepressed, but never did I stay
there.
Never did it roll over me orcontrol me.
Don't get me wrong.
I had moments where I was on my,

Elizabeth (30:38):
was just

Ashley (30:39):
The floor in my bathroom sobbing, crying for hours and
just holding myself like I wasjust a little baby.
Like

Elizabeth (30:47):
through

Ashley (30:48):
what the fuck am I doing?
I'm blowing up my life.
Like I, you know, you go throughevery kind of thought and
emotion behind it.
And then I just love the shitout of myself through it.
And I kept telling myself, I'mstrong.
I'm smart.
I am powerful and I am capableof making decisions to love

(31:10):
myself and trust myself, nomatter what that looks like or
feels like to anybody else,because no one is having to live
in me or through me, except forme.
And as long as I'm making thesedecisions from a place of loving
myself first, Loving mydaughter, next, and then also
loving her father, the man whois always going to be in her

(31:31):
life, and also has to raise herfrom a place of all of this, and
try to figure out how to healhimself.
And I think that that's soimportant to think about
throughout the process ofdivorce, too.
And I understand why women stay.

Elizabeth (31:47):
I I

Ashley (31:48):
Oh, I understand why women stay.
Because that's your baby.
And it's also someone that youloved for so long.
That was your, hopefully, bestfriend for part of it.
And now you kind of have tobreak them apart.

Elizabeth (32:02):
Mm.
Mm.

Ashley (32:07):
this over.
And you have to figure out someway to do that too.
But I can't be the person thatholds you through it.
And then I have to look at mydaughter.
It's scary.
And think like, ah, baby I'msorry, like, you're gonna feel
this and there's a lesson in it.

Elizabeth (32:24):
I'm also a big

Ashley (32:25):
also a big believer that

Elizabeth (32:27):
We chose these

Ashley (32:28):
have soul contracts.

Elizabeth (32:30):
even came

Ashley (32:31):
We chose these lessons in life before we even came onto
this earth.

Elizabeth (32:34):
she chose me

Ashley (32:35):
And if I believe that,

Elizabeth (32:37):
him as

Ashley (32:38):
then I believe that she chose me as her mom.
She chose him as her father.
And she chose these lessons inlife that are gonna come.
And I know that as long as I'mloving myself, she's gonna see
that, she's gonna know how tolove herself, and then give that
out.
Because that's what it is.
If we're giving ourselves love,we give that back out,

(32:58):
inevitably.

Elizabeth (32:59):
We do.
Period.

Ashley (33:00):
Period.
If we give ourselves hate, wegive that back out.
So you choose.
That's it.

Elizabeth (33:05):
love

Ashley (33:06):
chose to love myself through this.

Elizabeth (33:09):
Mmm.
That's beautiful.
Sorry.
Uh, that was, that was, um,

Ashley (33:17):
was,

Elizabeth (33:18):
every word you were just saying.
Mmm.
Mmm.

Ashley (33:20):
so, um, such

Elizabeth (33:24):
so honest.
I don't think I've ever heardthat said, I've never heard
divorce spoken in such abeautiful, honest, raw way.
But you're right, you chose tolove yourself.

Ashley (33:34):
of

Elizabeth (33:35):
didn't have this perspective

Ashley (33:36):
did you?

Elizabeth (33:39):
I mean, even up to now too, like, so I'm a year out
from the divorce last year.
It's been such a rollercoaster,so many big, raw emotions, and
you're also just

Ashley (33:56):
And you're also just like maintaining yourself.
You're maintaining yourtriggers.
Because you and your ex partnerknow each other's biggest
buttons to be able to push.
You were with each other for solong.
You got to the point of divorcebecause you're triggering each
other constantly, right?
And now that you're no longer inthis place of partnership in a

(34:19):
romantic way, and there'sheartbreak involved in it,

Elizabeth (34:23):
you

Ashley (34:24):
Like, it's, you get raw,

Elizabeth (34:26):
you

Ashley (34:26):
you do, and you have to keep coming back to,

Elizabeth (34:29):
it's just

Ashley (34:30):
like, it's just peace now.
Like, it has to be just peace.
Especially around Naya.
And for the most part, we do.
I give us a lot of props.
We do have a lot of peace.
Um, there's still communicationthat I think we'll forever have
to work on,

Elizabeth (34:46):
You know?
And

Ashley (34:50):
each other's lives, too.

Elizabeth (34:52):
know.
And I

Ashley (34:53):
No matter what, you know?
And I love him.
I do, I love him.
As a person, like, just causeI'm not in love with him
anymore.
I never stopped loving who hewas.
He's so beautiful, like, I'm notgonna be with someone who I'm
not gonna love as a human beingfor that long.
Have a baby with.

(35:14):
You know, like, no.

Elizabeth (35:15):
Like, he's cool.

Ashley (35:16):
He's amazing.
He's beautiful.
He's handsome.
He's strong.
He's amazing.
He's the father of my kid, andI'm forever grateful that he's a
good fucking dad.
He is.
And it's so, that makes it somuch harder sometimes, right?
When it's all of those aspectsare there and it's such a
beautiful human being, and it'slike you know that you served

(35:38):
your purpose together in thisworld, because we had not.
Like, definitely, we're supposedto have her.

Elizabeth (35:45):
I agree.
And

Ashley (35:49):
Like, it's, it's just not, um, we're just on different
frequencies.

Elizabeth (35:54):
just in different places.

Ashley (35:59):
months.
How

Elizabeth (35:59):
when did you start to feel more like yourself?
And that might be a loadedquestion, because that's always
evolving, right?
And maybe perspectives andthings have changed, because now
you're a mother going throughthis, this huge change.
You're no longer all over theworld, like you're in your, your
hometown how was that,

Ashley (36:19):
transition period,

Elizabeth (36:20):
that transition period, I guess?

Ashley (36:22):
that

Elizabeth (36:22):
As I just think about that one photo shoot you did and
it's like where you had that redlike silk sheet or something,
piece of cloth and it was like,just everyone listening like
picture like the most divinefeminine like goddess energy
dancing in the wilderness

Ashley (36:38):
like, I

Elizabeth (36:39):
on guys silly, but like just I just remember, like,
the flowing of your hair andyour body, and I remember that
post.
I don't know why, I justremember, and I feel like that
is what started our wholeconversations about what was
going on, I don't know, it wasjust, it was beautiful, so I'm
just curious, like, how did youget to that point?
How did you step back into yourfeminine, and is that something
you've always struggled with?

(37:00):
curious, like, leaning into yourfeminine side, and, and, or,
and,

Ashley (37:05):
feminine

Elizabeth (37:06):
Balancing the masculinity.

Ashley (37:07):
balancing the masculinity?
I feel Okay.
Right?
All the questions.

Elizabeth (37:13):
I didn't do that.
I need to be better about

Ashley (37:15):
do that.
I, uh, so that post actuallyThat, uh, photo shoot was done
in Australia out in the bush atgolden hour and I, it was a nude
shoot.
It was with a friend who wasdoing this lighting and
photography and asked me to be amodel.
And it was one of those momentswhere I've, and I'd never done

(37:40):
any, like a nude shoot before.
But I, I don't, I'm veryembracing of my body.
I, like, we all have boobs.
I don't care.
I'll, I'll, but it was so, Ijust felt powerful.
I was like, yes, because Ididn't feel like I had to hide
anything.

(38:00):
I was embracing it.
And so, yeah, those pictures,they hold a special place in my
heart because it showed a sideof myself that I feel I am and I
emanate and it captured that ina moment in time that was so
beautiful.
That was during COVID too.
And I was

Elizabeth (38:17):
was, you

Ashley (38:18):
you're in, you're spiraling around fear, and then
you have this place of peace andpower, and it was, yeah,

Elizabeth (38:25):
was, yeah,

Ashley (38:26):
it was all the beautiful things.
But to say that, that post was amoment that was right after I
told him I wanted my divorce,and it, I had never felt so sure
of who I am.
and exactly what I wanted inlife.

(38:47):
Like, especially in apartnership, it was gonna help
me raise a child, help me growwithin life, grow within my
business, adventure with me,play with me, love, nurture, you
know, in all the ways that Ineed.
Because my ex was beautiful andhe helped me heal so much and

(39:08):
serve so much and then it's likewe got to grow.
A place of stalemate.
Our bodies were no longerconnecting.
We were no longer dating.
We were no longer communicating.
And that went on for years andjust kind of stacked up.

Elizabeth (39:21):
kind of stacked

Ashley (39:22):
he didn't know how to meet me or try to meet me.
And I chose to continue to meetmyself.
And I realized I want someone ina partnership

Elizabeth (39:34):
that

Ashley (39:35):
that is going to do that.
Like, it's our love languages.
It's not just mine.

Elizabeth (39:41):
You

Ashley (39:41):
You know, and I realize that that's really important to
me.
Like, you don't have to be

Elizabeth (39:45):
have to be

Ashley (39:46):
a full on yogi, you know, deep in everything,
because I'm not.
Like, I,

Elizabeth (39:52):
just want

Ashley (39:53):
just want someone to play and adventure and wants to
continuously grow and love andis motivated and strong and
trusting and adventure.
I can't say adventure enoughbecause that's so my love
language, you know, and it's,you

Elizabeth (40:09):
like just

Ashley (40:10):
Like, just constantly trying to tap into mind, body,
soul connection.
That's it.
And,

Elizabeth (40:17):
When

Ashley (40:18):
just knowing that I can have that.
When I said I wanted a divorce,it was a freeing of shackles in
a sense.

Elizabeth (40:27):
And

Ashley (40:27):
And then,

Elizabeth (40:28):
can manifest the life again

Ashley (40:30):
oh, I can manifest the life again that I want now.
Like, I've done this before.
And I know I can do it again.
And I know I have to do it in adifferent way now that I have a
child, that I have a home, Ihave my own business, you know,
I have dogs, I haveresponsibilities.
And in my twenties, through myvagabond days, that was

(40:51):
something that I wasn't tied to.
I was never tied to a home.
I was never grounded, you know,with a family that sat here.
And that's another thing withdivorce, is, you know, it gets
complicated when you have achild.
If you want to move, or if youwant to start something over,
especially when we have 50, 50time with her.

(41:13):
Because that's important, right?
Again, she needs both of us, andthat's something we'll never
ever take away from her.
Never make her choose, like thisis her journey through it too.
And so, as soon as everythinghit, as soon as I had the free
shackles and decision to make,like, I got deep into my
practices.
And I got deep into my healingwork even more than leading up

(41:37):
to that.

Elizabeth (41:38):
you also

Ashley (41:38):
And then you also get deep into the reality.

Elizabeth (41:41):
to go

Ashley (41:42):
And Naya starts to go seven days with her father

Elizabeth (41:46):
actually took

Ashley (41:47):
and then seven days it actually took some time to build
up to that but

Elizabeth (41:52):
what we

Ashley (41:53):
what we did and Man, that's been the hardest part of
this entire thing is letting goof control

Elizabeth (42:01):
Hmm.
I struggle with control myself.
I'm sure a lot of us do, butthat's, that's hard.
So it's been a year.
So where, where are you and yourpractices and your love for you
now?
Hmm.
I'm currently

Ashley (42:17):
I'm currently doing a five week summer challenge
around removing your biggestblock in life.
It's getting in the way ofwhatever you look to manifest.
So I'm part of this group calledTo Be Magnetic.
And, um, they work with

Elizabeth (42:34):
Magnetic.
Okay.
And,

Ashley (42:36):
Modern day meditations, hypnotherapies, EMDR,
journaling, and um, throughoutit's just a structured five week
challenge to get to that biggestblock and then utilize all of
these tools to rewire theneuroplasticity in your brain so
that your subconscious isn'tdirectly going to that

(42:58):
protection mode, right?
We've come up with all of these.
It's ways to protect ourselvesfrom our childhood woundings
that we continuously walk aroundliving with, some of us, our
entire lives because we don'ttry to go to the source and heal
our childlike self that took onthat wounding.

Elizabeth (43:16):
wounding.
Wow.
So that's,

Ashley (43:17):
So that's, that's a big practice that I'm working with
right now.
And I love it.
Oh, I love it so much.

Elizabeth (43:23):
so much.

Ashley (43:24):
But, as well, just um,

Elizabeth (43:26):
sure

Ashley (43:27):
Making sure I'm constantly moving my body every
day, loving it, putting goodserving foods into it, putting
good serving entertainment.
You know, it's like we all haveour scrolling moments or TV and
I'm just making sure right nowthat

Elizabeth (43:44):
it's

Ashley (43:45):
it's just filled with a lot of love and not coming from
a place of fear.
That was a big thing right whenI had the divorce.
I can no longer watch scarymovies, murder movies, murder
mystery documentaries, like, itjust puts me in a place of
anxiety and fear that serves mein no way, shape, or form.

(44:05):
And I don't need to allow thatenergy in, especially when I'm
in such a vulnerable place andneeding to heal.
So I cleared that out.
I cleared out a lot of news andmedia, not everything, because
with my real estate business, Istay connected.
And I want to make sure that Iknow what's going on in the
world to an extent, but I don'tlet it come in and take over.

(44:27):
My mindset is, if I can't doanything right now directly to
shift this or change this, or Ican't put a vote in right now,
or I can't, then there's nopurpose of me knowing right now,
I'm not, I'm not going to doanything.
Except for fueling anxiety and afear.
that serves no great purpose.

(44:48):
I need to come from a place oflove and healing so I can give
that back out.
You know, and I'm slowly withthe election coming up letting
things start to come in a littlebit more.
So I am educated and mindful.
Even in, and it's a greatpractice in that too.
It's when I'm annoyed or feeltriggered with something that
comes up in the news or Idisagree.

(45:10):
It's, I come back to my breathwork and it's like, okay.

Elizabeth (45:13):
like, okay, it's

Ashley (45:14):
This It's fine.
This is just what it is.
Let me laugh about it, and let'sgo feed the plants.
Let's go for a walk outsidebarefoot.
Like, it's cool.
That

Elizabeth (45:25):
cool.
That is so grounding.
I'm also just like taking inlike, here we are in this room
that is like so epic.
Like, this room heals.
This room you've created heals.
And it's just,

Ashley (45:36):
I love

Elizabeth (45:37):
love this conversation and like the way
that the, me, like.
I don't know, everything justseems to flow right now, in this
moment, um, and I feel like ifI've learned, I've learned a lot
this weekend, believe it or not,um, but grounding is very
important and um, if you have astrong grounding when you get

(45:57):
side swiped by your anxiety orside swiped by a spiral or
something, it's gonna, that'swhat's gonna help you get back.
Like, either A, combat it, like,well, block it.
You have no space here.
No, thank you.
That's how I visualize myanxiety and my mental thoughts
sometimes.
Like that's cause they'reconstant and never ending.
So I literally think of likeblocking and like deterring it.

(46:17):
Um, but, to hear you speak ofsuch heavy moments and like to
see you come out on the otherside so to speak of, and I'm not
saying you're out of the woods.
Like, cause again, that's thetheme.
We are never out of the woods.
Like we're always working onourselves and always striving.
It's beautiful and I hope thatothers listening like they can
find that acceptance that you dodeserve that peace and you do

(46:42):
deserve that love and I lovethat you really spoke to that.

Ashley (46:45):
to out

Elizabeth (46:46):
How do you feel now a year out in all these pleasure
practices and mindful practicesand intention settings and all
of this and your beautifuldaughter to grow, be growing the
way that she is and to be aslike, Your mini me is possible
like that child is so cute andshe is definitely beaten to her
own drum.
I love it How is your femininedivine goddess energy?

(47:10):
How do you feel?
How do you feel on your ownfrequency now?

Ashley (47:13):
your own frequency now?
Hmm.
I feel good.
I do.
I really feel like, you know, Ihave my moments.
I have my days.
Everything is a season.
If you had asked me thisquestion back in the beginning
of the year, it would have beena totally different answer.
I was on a lower frequency.
We were coming out of winter,trying to go into spring, come

(47:36):
back to life.
It was my first holiday session,you know, divorced and
navigating.
And so, summer is very much myseason.
And it's warm, and there's somuch sunlight, and I spend so
much time outside.
And that's, that's kind of theenergy that I feel.
Like, I feel like I'm just kindof light right now.

(47:59):
And work is coming up around me,and I'm also trying to give a
lot of grace to this healingtime.
Because I don't look at it asconstantly working on myself.
I look at it as continuouslyloving myself.

Elizabeth (48:14):
Ooh, oh, my lord, I love

Ashley (48:17):
They changed that verbiage right there, and that's
where the power

Elizabeth (48:21):
on a shirt.
That was beautiful I'm gonnachannel that that is because I
do say that often like I'mconstantly working on myself,
but I mean it like that I'mcontinually loving myself

Ashley (48:31):
You don't need to be worked on.

Elizabeth (48:33):
Girl take my breath away.
Oh my goodness snaps.
Holy shit Mmm Wow

Ashley (48:46):
Sorry, I'm still

Elizabeth (48:46):
Sorry, I'm still reeling from that, that was
epic, um, that's beautiful.
So what is, I don't, I don'tknow if advice is the right word
or advice, techniques, I don'tknow if for anyone else and
whether they're going through adivorce or they're going through
a major life shift, maybe theyjust have lost touch with who
they are and trying to find thatsense of self again and find

(49:08):
that love.
What are what is like somegrounding techniques that you
could recommend or or even justmindful practices?

Ashley (49:19):
So I will share what I share with yoga, um, and just in
my own practices, but everyone'sso unique, right?
You're really going to find yourown thing that works.
And the biggest advice that Icould give if you're in one of
these chapters is find yourcommunity.

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No matter what that is, I knowso many of us want to just
retreat and retract and say thatwe're introverts and in moments,
we do need that.
We do need that space and thatalone time and healing.
But it's so easy to get lostthere and you heal, you get
through the hard times so muchmore gracefully, maybe not

(50:05):
faster because that's not thepoint.
It's not a point of the humanexperience.
You're supposed to experienceit, not just get on to the next
thing.

Elizabeth (50:12):
not just get on to the

Ashley (50:14):
Right?
And so it's find your communitythat feeds your soul, whatever
that is, and give it as muchlove as you possibly can.
And it's just going to pour intoyou in the most beautiful ways,
and you're going to come back.
You're going to, you're going towalk into this next chapter.
Where you come back into yourlight, and you get out of the

(50:37):
dark, and you're going to feelso much more like yourself than
you might ever have.
And it's so fucking worth it.
And you are so fucking worth it.
That

Elizabeth (50:58):
whether you're, I don't even know, transitioning
to something, job, career, life,mmm.
It's a good reminder for us alland to continually be loving
yourself.
I love, I, that is my new, mynew thing that I'm going to say
that to myself.
Anytime I find myself spiraling,whatever, cause that is so much
stronger than, yeah, we'reconstantly working on ourselves.

(51:21):
It is amazing.
Like when they say sticks andstones, I'm like sticks and
stones.
Yeah.
They break our bones and wordsnever hurt you.
No words are powerful.

Ashley (51:29):
words never hurt you, but

Elizabeth (51:31):
words can change your whole universe.
Well,

Ashley (51:34):
your whole universe.
Well, it was like we were sayingjust yesterday, the opposite
frequency of love isn't hate,it's fear.
Yeah.

Elizabeth (51:43):
in such

Ashley (51:44):
fear.
If you hate, you're in such adeep place of fear and you don't
have to stay there.
Like, that fear doesn't existwhen you are in a total place of
love.
You don't have to have any fear.
You're safe.
You're at peace.

Elizabeth (51:59):
And it's

Ashley (51:59):
And it's a practice, right?
Everything.
Keep coming back to it.
But, just love.
That's it.
Um, and peace, that's, that's

Elizabeth (52:07):
And peace, that's, that's the answer we all want.
It's definitely what I've beenstriving for lately.
I did a, uh, birth chart readingearlier this year from the
person you recommended, um,Deborah Silverman.
Well, she didn't do it becauseshe's very expensive, but her
team, one of her people on herteam did, I think I talked about
this on the podcast, and sheshared with me that my biggest

(52:28):
obstacle in this lifetime isprotecting my peace from my
mind.

Ashley (52:32):
but I've been very

Elizabeth (52:33):
And I, it's like ever since that call out, and not
that I didn't notice it before,but I've been very aware of it
and I'm like, wow, I can ruined,I don't want to say ruin, that's
a very extreme word, but like Ican make something less
pleasurable, you know, maybe dimthe brightness a little bit
because of my anxiety or becauseof my overthinking or because
once you start going, it'seasier to, to, for your brain to

(52:55):
be like, oh, well now you'rejust less than, or now it's not
going to happen and I don't havethose spirals too, too often
now, but.
Um, I'm very mindful of it andyeah, go back to peace, go back
to loving myself, going back to

Ashley (53:05):
going back

Elizabeth (53:06):
like manifesting the life I want and like knowing
that I have that power and notletting that fear, because my
fear is anxiety.
I know anxiety is fear, fear ofthe unknown, fear of the
control.
I think control is a thing Ihave to work on.
so it's a good reminder forthat.
I completely agree.
so do you have any, groundingtechniques you'd like to share

(53:27):
for anyone listening on how tomaybe tap into their feminine
energy.
When they feel a little all overthe place, they feel a little
wily.
Maybe they feel a littledisconnected from theirself.

Ashley (53:39):
Yeah, you want to do a little something something?

Elizabeth (53:41):
I

Ashley (53:44):
right when you said that, it started to rain down.
My roof here in the Florida roomis just a little tin roof, so
it'll be so wonderful.
Alright, well, get cozy.
We'll drop in.
Whether you're seated, lyingdown, even if you're driving in

(54:05):
a car right now, listening tothis, We're just gonna get into
our parasympathetic nervoussystem, that rest, digest, peace
state.
So, if you have, um, your armscrossed in any way, uncross
them, lay some palms face downon top of your thighs, just so
they have a purposeful place torest, and then if you feel safe,

(54:27):
close your eyes, not if you'redriving,

Elizabeth (54:29):
eyes.
Not if you're

Ashley (54:30):
your eyes,

Elizabeth (54:31):
eyes.
And let's breath

Ashley (54:33):
and let's take a deep breath in through the nose.

Elizabeth (54:36):
Take a moment.

Ashley (54:38):
Open the mouth.
Let it go.
One more time.
Inhale.
Exhale.
Just gently seal your lips.

(55:00):
Take a moment to just notice howyou're showing up.
Right here.
Right now.

Elizabeth (55:05):
here, right now, is bring

Ashley (55:08):
No matter what that answer is.
Don't bring in judgment.
Just accept it.

Elizabeth (55:12):
your head.
Notice the space between youreyes.

Ashley (55:16):
And just notice the space around the crown of your
head.
Notice the space between youreyes.
Let your eyelids become a littlebit heavier.
Relax your jaw.
Release the tongue from the roofof the mouth.

(55:39):
Notice the space around yourthroat.

Elizabeth (55:42):
throat.
What is the space

Ashley (55:45):
Relax your shoulders down.

Elizabeth (55:46):
hips?
I'm straight.
Soles

Ashley (55:49):
Relax your arms totally,

Elizabeth (55:51):
big squeeze.
Maybe

Ashley (55:52):
relax your hands,

Elizabeth (55:54):
That was

Ashley (55:55):
fingers,

Elizabeth (55:56):
for

Ashley (55:57):
again and notice the space around your heart, and
then your belly, relax yourbelly, notice your hips, your
glutes, tops of the thighs,hamstrings, knees, shins.

(56:22):
Calves, ankles, tops of thefeet, soles of the feet.
And take a full breath in, andlet it go.

(56:42):
Bring one hand to the heart, onehand to the belly.
And take a moment to name threethings that you love about you.
Once you've named those threethings, in your own way, in your

(57:04):
own words, just tell yourself, Ilove you, and I'm grateful for
you.
And wrap your arms aroundyourself, give yourself a big
squeeze, a little hug, maybe akiss, shoulder to shoulder.

(57:25):
Thank you for the moment ofpeace.
Thank you for the moment oflove.
Thank you for the reminder.
I deserve this.
And then slowly open your eyes.
And come back.

Elizabeth (57:54):
Just sitting with the love for myself.
Like, I'm so used to theinternet, like the negative
narrative.
It was so beautiful to hear thepositive.

Ashley (58:05):
And that's you.
That's all you, girl.

Elizabeth (58:07):
Didn't expect to get emotional.
And then the rain, it was likejust so perfect.
I started smiling when I heardthat.
Yeah, that's exactly how I felt.

Ashley (58:15):
felt.

Elizabeth (58:17):
Wow.
And

Ashley (58:23):
It doesn't take long.
That probably took threeminutes, maybe a little bit
more.
You can take three minutes inyour day.
You can take ten minutes in yourday to love yourself
intentionally.
You know, even if you're washingyour face at the end of the day,
instead of just washing it, likeOh, my face is so beautiful.

(58:46):
I'm gonna clean you so kindly.
You're gonna be so beautiful andglowing.
And it might sound silly, butthose little shifts that you do
and the practices that we doevery single day to take care of
ourselves, do it from a place oflove.
And it becomes a ceremony.
And that trickles out intoeverything else that you do.

Elizabeth (59:06):
It doesn't become, it's not a chore, it's

Ashley (59:08):
a chore.
It's

Elizabeth (59:09):
it's a ritual, I love that, it's so beautiful.

Ashley (59:12):
you ness.
Giving me space

Elizabeth (59:14):
for sharing you, sharing your ewness,

Ashley (59:17):
like I need more than anything.

Elizabeth (59:20):
And being comfortable and safe.
I don't know.
Thank you.
That was,

Ashley (59:25):
I love

Elizabeth (59:26):
I feel like I needed that more than anything and I'm
sure others listening are goingto need it too.
I love you.
Like I'm just like tears likewelling in my eyes.
I'm just like, I just want togive you the biggest hug.

Ashley (59:44):
truly be so

Elizabeth (59:46):
Thank you for showing me why it's so important.
To truly be so in touch withyourself,

Ashley (59:54):
it comes to

Elizabeth (59:56):
it's not something to ignore.
We do not need to ignoreanything when it comes to us not
loving ourselves, like, fully.
And thank you for showing methat even in the

Ashley (01:00:08):
the hurriedness

Elizabeth (01:00:08):
hurriedness of the day or the thousand line item to
do list, this still matters.
And I'm willing to bet that metaking some of, like taking this
type of intention setting andmindfulness,

Ashley (01:00:28):
my I feel like it's

Elizabeth (01:00:30):
I feel like it's going to help the anxiety and
the ADHD and like the thoughtspiral.
I'm not saying it's going tocure it, that's my quest of the
life, I've already said that, Iknow that's my journey this
lifetime, but it's somethingthat's going to make it easier
and help it.
So.
Thank you.
You're welcome.

Ashley (01:00:44):
help it.
So.
I'm glad to share.
Anytime, girl.
Because I think it also

Elizabeth (01:00:49):
because I think it also will feed into the things
that I said that I love aboutmyself too.
One of the things I said was mydreams.

Ashley (01:00:55):
said was my dreams.
Mmm.

Elizabeth (01:00:57):
I really do love that about me, to think that I can do
it, to know that I can do it.

Ashley (01:01:01):
Because if you're already dreaming it, it's
already there.
Your life is showing you.

Elizabeth (01:01:07):
Yep.
I agree.

Ashley (01:01:10):
My

Elizabeth (01:01:12):
My goodness.
Well, um, Do you want to tee upyour social media at all for
anyone to, if anybody would liketo follow you and follow the
mindful practices?
Because I feel like you do sharethat kind of content.

Ashley (01:01:22):
like you're, you do share that kind of content.
My public Instagram, I did abig, I called it a purge.
I don't know if I want to callit a purge anymore, but a
boundary setting on the energythat I allow in my space.
So that one is if you're not ina really close inner circle with

(01:01:45):
me, unless we become that,that's, that's for that space.
But I do share a ton on my, evenwith my yoga practices on my
real estate.
Instagram page and that's atAshley Rossi realtor So follow
me on there.
You'll always see beautifulstories and posts of the water

(01:02:08):
and what's going on down here onthe gulf and My yoga practices
and my cool kids.
Oh, yeah

Elizabeth (01:02:15):
then you might find yourself moving down here, you
know?
Who doesn't want

Ashley (01:02:18):
doesn't want to live at the beach, I mean, I know some
people don't it's not the vibeit's not their calling place You
But, if it is, and you haven'tbeen down here to the beaches in
Alabama, I've lived all over theworld, y'all, and there's
something special here.
They're

Elizabeth (01:02:49):
following me there, that's, uh, at the in between
podcast.

Ashley (01:02:52):
things

Elizabeth (01:02:52):
And then I'll be sharing clips and things like
that.
So you can follow me onInstagram at in.
betweenpod and elizabethciniunderscore.
Um, and if you like today'sepisode, please share it with a
friend, a sister, a mother, anaunt, um, your coworker, maybe
your neighbor, maybe thepublic's checkout worker.
Maybe they need a nice pick meup.
I don't know.

Ashley (01:03:10):
new friend and share.

Elizabeth (01:03:12):
think everyone could take something from this.

Ashley (01:03:15):
to share the love.
We

Elizabeth (01:03:17):
share the love.
Aww.
It's all love.
so much

Ashley (01:03:21):
you so much for sharing your space with me.
This was really cool.

Elizabeth (01:03:25):
Mmm.
Alright.
Well, until next time.

Ashley (01:03:28):
Until next time!

Elizabeth (01:03:29):
Bye.