April 23, 2025 • 32 mins
Giggles, never ending to-do lists, and the chaos of home ownership - I kick things off all over the place. Rest assured, you'll be laughing with me (and might even be able to relate).
On top of the life updates and ridiculousness of my overwhelming to-do list, I also stress the importance of having "hype" people in your life. You never know when you're going to run into Ryan Seacrest, then your friends tries to give him your podcast Instagram handle. Did she succeed? You'll have to listen to find out. The main point is no matter where you are on your journey, you need people in your corner hyping you up, believing in you, and rooting you on because it's hard carrying everything yourself. Those special people deserve a callout because we'd be lost without ya.
You have the magic, and it's ok to let someone put it on spotlight.
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Hey, hey, hey.
Welcome back to another episodeof The In-Between.
I'm your host, Elizabeth Cheney.
Uh, I'm just gonna go ahead andpreface, I am overwhelmed, I'm
overstimulated.
I am.
Not doing so well in all thischaos of my house.
But you know what?
We're here recording, so that isa, triumph.
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Nonetheless.
I don't even know if that wordreally makes sense for the
context.
I am just all over the place.
How's this episode gonna go?
You know what, it's anyone'sgame at this point.
So welcome.
Thank you for being here.
If you're new here, well, youpicked quite the episode to come
listen on.
So.
Ah, you know, lemme just take adeep breath.
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Goodness gracious.
So I don't even know where tobegin.
It's not that one thing inparticular has happened, it's
just.
The to-dos are never ending whenit comes to this house.
I think, okay, I hired ahandyman.
He came and did all this stuffthat's gonna make me feel great.
it did, it did make me feelgreat.
I wanna preface that.
I don't wanna disregard all thework I had done and all the
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money I paid to get it done.
but it's like, oh, well thatjust highlighted all the other
things I have to do.
It's like, when do the to-dosstop?
I'd like to know on top of myextroversion that just needs to
chill the fuck out because I'mdoing this, I'm doing that.
I'm trying to get back into thepodcast, which also means
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networking, reaching out topeople, which again.
I'm sure the next episode that Irecord, I'm gonna be coolest
cucumber.
I'm gonna be cool, calm,collected, and be like, oh man,
I was freaking out.
P I'm a G.
But right now, today, this week,I'm overwhelmed.
I'm overwhelmed.
You know, this house is a lotfor one little girly like
myself, and I'm also realizingjust how much handy skills I do
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not have.
I'm not saying I can't build apiece of furniture, but I am
saying I can't find a stud in awall to save my life.
I am saying I don't even knowhow to do little screw caps.
You know the things, the plasticthings that go into the wall
that.
I don't know, support the screw.
I don't know why it's gonna be atwo part deal, but I cannot do
it to save my life.
I mean, heck, we all know that Ialmost died hanging a sh uh,
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almost a shower curtain.
Let's hope I don't die doingthat.
But I almost died hanging a, acurtain rod.
So that should have been myforeshadow as to what I was
gonna get myself into with thishouse.
Uh, you know, all that said anddone, I feel like I'm just
pouring out money.
It's like, okay, one big chunkof change there.
One big chunk of change there.
And then I'm like, oh, well nowthat this is done, I wanna get
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this podcast studio going.
And, uh, that costs money to getthose chairs.
I feel like I'm whi whining, butit's my podcast so I can do
that.
Hopefully it's entertaining, butit's just like, wow.
So much.
There's so much to do.
I'll give you an example.
I bought a shed.
I have no business putting ashed together, but I'm gonna try
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because I cannot handle all thepower tools and all the shit
that's in my house.
That's just taking up space.
So what is she gonna do?
She's gonna try to build thisshed because it's a put together
shed and, uh, my whole backyardis pretty much a slope, so that
makes that fun for me.
But.
There is like one little areathat is flat and I'm, I'm just
gonna take it.
Is it gonna look aestheticallypleasing?
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I have no earthly idea, butguess what?
I'm gonna put that damn shedtogether if it kills me.
And you know, it might becausesaid curtain rod on top of that,
I saw this thing on the internetthat was like, the reason I
procrastinate is'cause I'm sogood at procrastinating and I
always get it done.
So then I continue toprocrastinate.
'cause I always, you know, wow.
I think I just kinda went incircles there.
Basically, my point being is Iprocrastinate so much because I
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always get the job done.
It might stress me out to no endgetting there.
It might, you know.
Almost die hanging a curtainrod.
But I get it all done and that'swhy my brain cannot stop
procrastinating.
And honestly, I'll throw myselfa bone here.
It's not that I procrastinate alot, it's just.
I don't know.
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I get stuck in my head.
I get lost in all the thoughts.
I get lost in all the things Ihave to do because it's like you
gotta do all these things in thehouse and then you gotta build
all these things.
And then there's your podcastthat you wanna do, and then you
wanna finish updating yourwebsite because again, I'm only
halfway through with myspeaking.
Gotta figure that out.
A blog post, never met her.
Maybe one day we'll get there.
A newsletter, a dream, quite thedream.
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Jokes aside, I know it'll allcome together'cause it is slowly
but surely, but I shit you not,it's like you knock five things
off and 15 more pop up and I'mlike, huh?
Oh my God.
What am I gonna get above water?
Because I'm overwhelmed.
I'm so overwhelmed.
You know what?
Let's be honest.
She's not gonna stop meetingpeople.
She's not gonna stop talking topeople.
She's not gonna stop being anextrovert because that is who I
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am.
So I might as well just embraceit.
So I'll find a balance.
I'll find a balance.
I mean.
I am brushing my teeth, youknow, morning and night.
So there's a win.
I am washing my face for themost part.
Oh, and my, my doctor would behappy to know that I'm still
taking all my vitaminsroutinely.
So there are some wins.
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Snaps for Liz.
Snaps.
Snaps for Liz.
But one thing, I mean, there's alot that I wanna say, but kind
of on the same topic, I, onething I wanna say is I would
love.
Some masculine energy aroundhere.
Not even necessarily for my ownromantic, dare I say sexual
needs, I just mean handyman.
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Literally a handyman needs.
I don't have a dad.
I don't have any brothers.
My cousin, my male cousin livesin frigging North Carolina now,
which miss him.
Love you guys so much.
and my uncle has like hipsurgery.
I don't freaking know all thisto say I don't really have a lot
of male energy.
To come help me and as a strong,independent woman who don't need
no man, I know that's hard forme to say and I want you to know
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the situation must be dire forme to admit that I need a man's
help.
Not that my girlfriends can'thelp, but like for example, we
can't all reach some of thethings that I need help with.
We all don't have tools that I'msure some men have.
And maybe I'm generalizing, Idon't even freaking know.
All I know is if there couldjust be someone that shows up at
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my door and is like, Hey.
Let me help you.
I'd probably cry.
I, yeah, I'd definitely probablycry.
I'd give you a big hug.
I'd cook you a home cooked mealand I would be very grateful.
So if there's anyone who fitsthat profile, who would like to
help me not feel so much likeI'm drowning, applications are
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open, literally my door's open.
I think at this point I wouldtake anyone with a pulse that
isn't gonna kill me or stealfrom me, so that'd be great.
because the handyman that Ihired was a little expensive and
I don't know if I can hire himagain.
Okay.
Okay.
That's been their conversation.
Uh, but anyways, it's all great.
Like here I am talking about allthe to-dos and instead I'm
recording an episode.
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So priorities, because thosedreams aren't gonna dream
themself.
They're not gonna happenthemself.
Definitely gotta do it.
Do the damn thing.
And it's like.
Wow.
I can just sit here and thinkabout all the things I have to
do, and oh, maybe I'll do ittomorrow, or I'll do this
tomorrow, or the podcast, blah,blah, blah.
And it's like.
At some point you have to stopyourself and go, it's only gonna
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get done if you actually do it.
Simply said, but gosh darn, ifthat is not such a hard pill to
swallow sometimes I saw thisthing as well on the internet.
'cause the internet is oursource of truth.
Right?
Right.
Uh, it is A-A-D-H-D profile.
Profile.
I file, whoa, can't even speak.
I'm getting ahead of myself.
An A DHD profile I follow onInstagram.
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And I forget what they calledit, but the premise is you have
different lists in differentrooms and it helps your brain, I
don't know, process itdifferently, not feel so
overwhelmed, not feel so like,like scattered.
Because the thing iseverything's gotta get done.
And although I've worked reallyhard on the whole, it doesn't
have to get done right now, butit's like.
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In the situation I'm in, there'sjust a never ending flow of
things to do and it's like, holymoly.
So I've thought about maybe I'llhave my tasks around the house
list in one room.
Then I have my goals, podcasts,in between all of that stuff in
another room.
And then, you know, my personalto-dos, things I gotta do, like
for example, gotta get myadmissions done because my
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birthday is like just around thecorner, which.
Happy taurus season.
You know, yesterday I was like,oh yeah, at start of taurus
season I'm feeling great.
Boom, ba boom.
I feel the power.
And then, another sleeplessnight I woke up stressed out
because, well, there was like somany fires at work and it was
quite, quite the, the hustle andbustle.
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So it's just been a lot.
But she gets through it becauseshe has to, she has to survive.
but It's all good.
It's all good.
Just another chapter in my book.
Goodness.
But we'll see if that helps.
You know, I will try anythingonce.
So.
Well, that's a lie.
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I don't think I would actuallytry skydiving because I'm
terrified of heights, but, youknow, never say never.
So there's that.
But back to the wholeprocrastinating thing, it would
be great to break that cycle.
I feel like I get better andbetter like little by little.
and I'm sure anyone who's boughta house or is trying to.
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Make a place their own.
Uh, you can feel me on the neverending to-dos.
I am just gonna wind just alittle bit more.
It would be a lot easier withtwo people, but you know what?
That we're not even gonna touchbecause I absolutely made the
right decision there.
and I am to OCD to handle havinga roommate right now.
I mean, I've made this space myown now, so like where are they
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gonna sleep on the couch, whichI won't lie, my couch is pretty
freaking comfortable, so maybe Iwill Hey, couch for rent
anyways.
it is just quite.
Quite the life.
jokes aside, procrastinationaside, never ending to-do list
aside.
I am getting it done.
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I mean, now that I'm recordingand I can let some of my
excitement, for lack of betterwords, my eccentric self calm
down a little bit.
I do feel better.
Do I have to go outside andtouch grass a few times?
Yes, I do.
Uh, you know, yesterday I was sooverwhelmed with work, so
stressed out, I was like down inthe dump, so to speak.
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I was feeling doom and gloom,like, oh my gosh, someone's
stressed, someone's anxiety.
And then I went outside and Ilet the sunshine hit my face and
I was like, oh.
This is what it's for.
This is why we do it.
This is why we need thesunshine.
This is what they mean bytouching grass.
do I go outside throughout myday, especially when I'm
stressed out?
Normally, yes.
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I touch grass quite frequentlyand it helps.
It works.
Who knows?
Maybe it's'cause I'm a earthsign, I don't freaking know, but
I will take the sunshine on acloudy day.
Right.
Right.
so yeah, I am a little in overmy head, but that's okay.
I always land on my feet.
Maybe this time, I am gonna askfor help.
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So if you wanna help your girlout again, I'll give you a home
cooked meal.
I'll give you a hug and I'llprobably cry.
I mean, the handyman installedmy ceiling fans, which is great,
and I was trying to figure outwhat light bulbs to put in it,
because regular light bulbs are,are too wide, like the bulb
itself, not so much the base,but the bulb itself.
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So I look at the box, I see whatlight bulbs it says to order,
and I'm not an idiot.
I can read order said lightbulbs and they're too skinny,
they don't fit what in the hell?
I blame Amazon.
I absolutely blame Amazon'causealso screw Jeff Bezos.
But also I buy a lot off Amazon'cause it's cheap and it's quick
and I need it and I'moverwhelmed and it's easy.
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But all that to say, I don'tknow what I'm doing.
I'm in over my head again, thescrews, there's so many things
that need to be screwed in mywalls and I just need help.
Okay.
I think that's enough unloading.
Um, hopefully your lives are notas chaotic, and if they are,
well snaps.
We'll get through this together.
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A couple of updates.
I'm gonna get Invisalign, so ina couple of weeks I may have a
lisp and you'll just have todeal with it.
Hopefully it won't be too bad.
That's one thing I asked thedoctor.
I was like, or the dentist.
Well, the dentist is the doctor,right?
Am I an idiot there too?
I'm laughing at myself.
Absolutely.
They are a doctor.
Uh, I was asking him, I waslike, yo, so, uh, I have a
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podcast, big deal over here,and, uh, I just wanna know like,
how was the lisp situation withthe, the retainers?
And he's like, you might have aslight one, but you'll get used
to it and kind of adjust.
And I was like, great, great,great, great.
And they have to put these likethings, I don't even know what
you wanna call it.
It's like, not an adhesion, butit's like this like.
Not a bracket, but somethingthat they put on your tooth that
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comes off once your invisalign'sdone.
But it's, I guess, meant to kindof help the retainer pull your
teeth in whatever directionyou're trying to do.
And he shows me a diagram ofwhere they're gonna go in my
mouth.
And he's like, when you're notwearing the retainer, you can't
really tell at all.
But when you wear the retainer,you kind of see because the
retainer is glossy and you seelike the ridges and things like
that.
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And I'm like, you got me wearingone of these things on one of my
front teeth.
So I have no idea if I'm gonnalook like a clown.
Uh, but you know, I only have towear'em for like six months, so
at least there's that.
But oh my gosh.
What am I getting myself into?
I don't know.
I really wanna Invisalign'causeI wanna fix my teeth.
So that's a fun update.
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Then my mother and I havedecided to go to New York in two
weeks.
Yeah.
Decided that today, uh, it waskind of a surprise, but also I
needed to use my companionticket before I cancel my Amex
card.
'cause I wanna get a Chase card.
not that Delta is bad, but youknow, you gotta expand your
horizons'cause delta's sofricking expensive.
Anyways.
All that said and done, I wasnot about to waste that
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companion pass.
So we're gonna New York again, Ican't wait.
And it's gonna be even more funbecause her hips are replaced.
Did I word that?
Did I say that right?
She has new hips now versus whenwe went in August, she hadn't
had her first surgery.
So we're gonna be bebopping andyou know, zooming through New
York and get to see areas andparts that we didn't get to see
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before and maybe even get toexplore Brooklyn at least for a
day.
So I'm so excited.
'cause New York is definitelyone of those cities that.
I think I would thrive in, uh,don't know if I'm gonna move
there because I have this giantass house to take care of and I
can't quite sell it yet.
So a girl can dream.
But you know, I've always saidmy dreams are gonna take me to
New York all the time.
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So even if that's not home base,I.
I'll still be there a lot.
So that's exciting.
Something to look forward to anduh, me and Ashley and our friend
Tee Tee are gonna start planningour big European vest.
Wow.
I was gonna say vacation anddestination that came out.
Destination.
So there's a new word for you.
Uh, but we're gonna startplanning that this weekend
because that is around thecorner too.
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Here I am complaining aboutmoney and I'm also the one
spending it.
So she is a Taurus through andthrough, but you know.
I think I said this on the lastepisode, I'm only gonna be at
this place in my life once hohopefully, Lord willing, I'm not
gonna be single forever.
Uh, she does want a familyeventually, but, you know, being
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single, being with my friends,getting to go travel the world
and I don't know, just go do thedamn thing.
Like, I don't know.
It's just exciting.
So.
Once in a lifetime trip, can'twait.
Gonna start planning that.
Literally, like we have so manyideas for itinerary, like even
other countries involved.
So who knows where this trip'sgonna land.
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But I did say this is my budget,X, Y, Z, and I cannot go over it
because I am one who will easilygo over it.
So we're trying to beresponsible, you know, we don't
wanna drown in debt.
Just kidding.
I don't have debt.
We're okay.
But.
Again, this house just keepspresenting new things that must
be done and bought, so gotta becareful on that, but it's gonna
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be fine.
It's gonna be great.
uh, I made a joke.
Earlier about my sleep.
I don't even remember what thejoke was about.
'cause that seems like years agonow.
Uh, but no update there.
Still not sleeping.
I just bought magnesium spray.
'cause I've heard that helpslike you spread on your feet
before you go to bed.
And everyone who's recommendedit says it puts me to bed like a
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baby.
So maybe that will be my cure.
Maybe that will be my fix.
But let me tell you guys I am sostressed out as to why I'm not
sleeping.
I am sure that is creating morechaos in my life and adding to
all of this like intense anxietyof like my to-dos and being
overwhelmed, overstimulated.
But holy shite.
What does a girl gotta do to beable to sleep?
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I would love to know.
I don't even care anymore aboutthe bags under my eyes.
I mean, of course I care, butlike.
I just wanna sleep at thispoint.
I wanna sleep through the night.
That doesn't involve me drinkingor taking drugs.
That's a lie.
I don't take drugs, but you knowwhat I mean.
I tried doing the magnesium pillthing, like the capsule form,
and then if I fell asleep, itgave me the most stressful
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dreams.
I don't even wanna tell you someof the dreams I've had, but like
things that are spooky, thingsthat are scary, things that keep
you up at night, like my momgetting murdered, like
literally, knock on wood, findsome wood.
I mean, seriously, like what inthe hell?
Then I started drinking thispowder stuff, like put it in
some water before I go to bed.
I thought that helped, but didit last night and I just stared
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at my ceiling.
And then when I start to dozeoff, it's like I kind of come in
between of like, huh, no punintended, in between sleep and
like being awake.
And then I look at the clock,and again, it's 3:00 AM and we
know how I feel about that.
Where's the demons?
Where's the ghost?
Who's trying to get me?
And I have like this really bigmirror in front of my bed, which
I love.
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However, when you are likedelirious and half asleep.
You know, it just takes onelittle light or whatever to just
spook you to no end.
So, I don't know.
And I have these dreams thatseem so realistic.
I don't know, still trying tofigure it out.
Um, I guess I'll sleep when I'mdead at this point.
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I, oh God.
I just, I, uh, it's a lot.
It's a lot, but we're figuringit out.
Again, remember I'm taking myvitamins, so at least there's
that.
I definitely think I am aculprit of the whole revenge
bedtime thing.
I, I talked about this like ayear ago, and maybe you've seen
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it on the internet, but it'sabout like.
Why you procrastinate going tobed.
And although I will say I havenow developed anxiety about
going to sleep'cause I'm likestressed out.
Am I gonna sleep tonight?
I don't know.
So I'm sure that's not helping.
Oh God, I just need a win.
Because I have so much going onduring the day,'cause work has
been insanely busy, and then Ido what little bit I can, once
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I'm finished with whatevermental stimulation I have left,
once the wee hours of the nightstart to creep in, I'm like, oh.
Oh gosh.
Am I gonna sleep tonight?
I don't know.
I don't know.
And then I'll stay awake andthen I'll be like, okay, it's
midnight.
I need to go to bed.
But then it's like I've pushedthrough the sleepiness, not that
I ever really feel sleepy.
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And yeah, here's the story.
That's all she wrote.
So I did just buy a projectorfrom my bedroom, and I'm like,
maybe if I have like some kindof like TV to go to bed too,
maybe that will help.
I'll try anything at this point.
Well, for the most part.
I won't try everything, but Iwill try all the healthy, safe
recommendations you have tooffer.
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So that's where my mental healthis at.
We are surviving.
I'm going to just be, uh, overlypositive and say we're thriving
ish, but we're gonna get therebecause we always do.
'cause we're gonna get help.
Someone is gonna be like, oh myGod, Elizabeth, let me help you.
I want to help you.
And I'm gonna be like, Ugh, myhero, or one my girlfriends is
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gonna frigging net up her.
Shut up and come help me.
That makes me sound ungrateful.
Trust me, I have the bestfreaking friends in the world.
But I really think I need somemale energy, some male help.
Anyways, I'm gonna start theartist's way, which here I am
just complaining about all ofthe shit I have to do and I'm
like, but let me add one morething.
Uh, maybe I should rephrasethis.
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I'm going to attempt to startthe artist's way'cause I have a
friend who wants to do it withme and I actually think that she
and I could be.
Like buddies in this and holdeach other accountable, but at
the same time I'm like, should Istart next week?
And then I'm like, Ooh, I knowhow that mindset goes.
I start next week, then it's thefollowing week, and then before
I know it, it's freaking July.
And I'm like, well, maybe I'llstart the artist way when I'm
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65.
I don't know, but that's okay.
Uh, I have been reading more, soyou know what?
I need to acknowledge the smallwins and like, and wins.
I mean in terms of doing thehobbies or habits or whatever it
is that I'm trying to do.
And then also recognize.
Just because you started readinga little bit each week doesn't
mean you're ready to take on onemore side thing.
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So remember how I thought I wasgonna learn Pink Pony Club on my
birthday?
Let's all laugh with me.
Oh, goodness gracious.
But going back to theextroversion and all of that,
getting back into the flow ofreaching out to people and
contacts and networking and,mingling with my girlfriends and
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things like that.
My friend, my girlfriend Brooke,she owns her own PR agency.
I met her last year at an A TLBucket List event.
She is fabulous.
I always tell her, I'm like,you're literally the coolest
girl.
I know, like, of course I havecool friends, but like.
Brooke is like, cool.
Like I don't even know if thatmakes sense, hearing that back,
but you know what I mean?
She's just like, cool.
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If you're listening to this,Brooke, I hope you're giggling.
Uh, but anyways, she is aphenomenal hype woman.
All of my girlfriends arephenomenal hype woman.
Hell, I am a phenomenal hypewoman.
So hype women, find fellow hypewomen in my right.
But with Brooke having the PRbackground and being kind of a,
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not a content creator friend,but meeting her in this space,
and we call this space like mydream space, like the goals I
have for myself, theentrepreneurial pursuits, all of
that.
Especially because, you know, Idon't wanna say I am nobody, but
like, hmm, I'm not somebody yet,but I'm gonna be somebody one
day.
All that to say, her belief inme and her hyping me up is.
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Incredible.
And I really, really appreciateit.
She'll always be like, I knowyou're gonna be famous.
I knew that the second I metyou.
And I'm like, I needed to hearthat'cause I had three
breakdowns earlier.
Thanks girl.
I joke, joke, joke, but she isincredible.
And, the reason I'm bringing herup, we had a girl's outing this
past weekend.
Somehow I ended up with threeUber driver's phone numbers, not
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for like, you know, datingpurposes, but.
They're like, if you ever needa, driver, here's my card,
here's my number.
I will, I'll come pick you up.
'cause it's cheaper thanUbering.
And I guess maybe not that I saythat out loud.
That's a great thing.
But yeah, don't know how thathappened.
Anyways, girls night having fun.
And we are at the St.
Regis having drinks and Ryan'sSeacrest is there.
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Ryan Seacrest is from Atlanta,Uh, I don't think he lives here
now, but I'm sure he visits'cause I'm sure his family's
here.
And we're like, oh my God.
It's Ryan Seacrest.
Um, a very beautiful humanbeing.
And she immediately startstrying to write my number down
on a linen napkin and myInstagram handle for the
podcast.
Not in any way, like I'm aboutto leave my number for Ryan's
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secrets, but to, Hey, you needto connect with this person kind
of thing.
And with it being a linennapkin, we couldn't get the pin
to write.
And it was just like he wasleaving this and this, that and
that.
And she's like, do you have abusiness card?
And I look at her and I'm like,Brooke, do you think I have a
business card?
And as soon as I say that, Ithink, oh shit, I need a
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business card.
And she says to me, you need abusiness card with a QR code
that goes to your Spotify.
Better yet, a link tree thatlinks to Spotify, apple, your
website, even your speakingpage.
And I was like, you are genius.
You're so right.
So that when I do have thesevery few and far between
moments, at least starting offright now with people that.
You never know what couldhappen.
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I could whip out a professionallooking business card, and I'm
like, yo, Ryan, you wannaconnect with me because I'm all
about following your dreams,which I know you dropped outta
UGA back in the day because yousaid, screw it.
I wanna follow my dream and lookat you.
You're freaking Ryan Seacrest.
Everyone knows who you are.
So, I mean, your game is mygame.
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I'm just not quite to your levelyet.
And I also graduated college,but you know.
In my defense, I didn't have mydreams then, or at least I was
not in tune with them.
so have I ordered business cardsin the past few days?
No, but I promise you, by theend of this week, by the time
this recording comes out, Iwould've bought them.
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So nothing like holding myselfaccountable on my own podcast.
Okay.
Okay.
But kind of the point of whatI'm saying.
Two things.
One, Ryan Seacrest, if you'relistening, I would love, love,
love, love for you to come onthe podcast.
We can talk about what it meansto follow your dream, what it
means to bet on yourself, whichis always my favorite
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conversation, and like thejourney that got you there and
look at you and your success.
Also, I think I'm entertainingand I think we'd probably get
along really well.
The second point to this is youneed people like Brooke in your
corner.
You need people like my friendsin your corner.
I know that I'm being verygeneral, but like I have some of
the best freaking friends in theworld who believe in me when I
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doubt myself, who hype me upwhen I'm feeling low, who remind
me what my magic is, what mytalent is.
And of course I do the same forthem, but.
It is so important in havinghype people in your circle,
okay?
And, and not just hyping youwhen you're down.
Like, yeah, girl, you got this.
You're gonna get back on thepodcast, you're gonna get back
in the flow.
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But even having friends whenyou're going through it.
I mean, we all know, I just wentthrough a major life transition
and it meant a lot to me.
Of course, my best friends beingthere, but even some of my
content friends, like peopleI've met in the podcast,
community, content creator,community, reaching out,
checking in on me, Hey, you'vebeen kind of quiet.
What's going on?
And I'm like, well, you see, thething is my life imploded and
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here's the, here's the tea.
And in being able to do thatback for them, I say that
because I have a few friendsgoing through some major life
shit right now.
And for me, being on the otherside of mine, minus all the
to-dos in this house, jokesaside, it's an honor to be able
to be that hype person, thatsupport person, that reminder
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that, hey, your art matters.
Your dreams matter.
Sometimes you gotta pause,sometimes you've gotta take a
step back.
Sometimes you gotta balance, youknow, find that flow, but you're
gonna get through it and I'mgonna help you.
I'm gonna be there for you.
You never know how much a littletext message can go.
They always say a littlekindness goes a long way.
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And that's so freaking true.
So you need hype people.
That's what we're gonna refer tothem as.
And Brooke is an incredible hypewoman.
I am so.
Grateful that she's not just ahype woman in my life, but she's
also a good friend.
And I can't wait to see wherethis future, this future, this
future, this lifetime, wherethis dream goes, because I know
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it's gonna go somewhere.
And, cheers to your girlfriends,your hype People who see Ryan
Seacrest and their first meansof action is, let me write your
number and your Instagram handledown.
All right, let's do somebusiness cards because.
Maybe it's Ryan's Secrets nowand then tomorrow it's Jeff
Goldblum, which, you know, thatwould make me pass the whew,
that'd make me pass out in somany good ways.
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But, uh, you know, maybe one daywe'll manifest that.
I always have said I will havehim on the podcast and mark my
freaking words.
But all that to say, it'sexciting when these kind of
moments happen.
And even if I feel a little likeLa la li, like, I'm delusional.
I'm de Lulu.
I have my girl, Brooke, beinglike, no, that's exactly what
you gotta do.
You gotta put yourself outthere.
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You gotta bet on yourself.
And then to bring it fullcircle, that's what Mr.
Seacrest did, our friend Ryan.
Okay.
And look at him.
So there's nothing wrong withbelieving in your dreams.
It might take a lot of guts,spa, a lot of blood, sweat, and
tears.
Maybe not as much blood as I, Ithink, but you know what I mean.
Sweat, tears, metaphoricalblood.
But you're gonna get there.
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You just can't give up on it.
And I'm gonna be honest, youcan't do it alone, even if
you're the one doing the damnthing.
And it's your dream.
You need your hype people, youneed your community.
You need your personalcommunity.
You need your friends, yourfamily.
Yes.
And then you also need yourcommunity.
Community, the people that aredoing what you wanna do.
Maybe not directly andspecifically, but the people who
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can understand the hustle canunderstand what you're going
through.
So find your people.
It's important.
Buy the dang business cards.
Set up the link tree and Ryan'sseacrest.
Give me a freaking call becauseI think we could create a
magical episode if I do say somyself and as an Atlanta native.
Isn't that a bonus point?
Okay.
Okay.
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Enough begging.
Mr.
Secrest, why do I keep callingMr.
Seacrest?
That sounds so weird.
Um, the Pro by Mrs.
Egress, listen to me.
Uh, but all that said and done,I feel magical.
Wow.
I feel like that's a very, avery different vibe that I
started the episode off with.
But hey, that just goes to showyou how much I love doing this.
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And like, she's got it.
She's got it.
but don't give up.
Believe in yourself.
Always bet on yourself.
No matter what it is.
You don't have to be anentrepreneur and have some crazy
ass dreams like I do.
To bet on yourself.
Bet on yourself for thepromotion.
Bet on yourself to cook thatcrazy complicated recipe in the
kitchen.
Bet on yourself to be able tohang a curtain rod, not die.
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I'm not betting on myself there.
That's for dang sure.
Bet on yourself to figure outhow to sleep through the night.
That's a goal that I'm gonnamaintain.
Until I can figure it out, Iwill figure it out.
I know I will, but don't stop.
At least not permanentlyunderstand.
Sometimes we need breaks.
I.
but always bet on you becausewhat else are you gonna do in
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this life?
You just gonna stare out intothe, the sky.
Granted, I'm definitely becomethat person who just stares out
the window and looks at all thebirds in my backyard.
So much so that my team, I.
Thinks it's funny because Iwon't even realize it.
A DD probably, but I look off,get distracted'cause there's
some crazy hawks or a flock ofbirds, I don't know.
Just crazy animal activity in mybackyard.
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And one of my teammates, I callher my work wife slash work
bestie, she got me a birdwatching book.
So I have entered that era.
I think I've mentioned thisbefore in a couple episodes ago,
but I just need y'all to knowthat it's in full swing.
It's also very calming, butalso.
F, maybe it's gonna be a newsecret.
Talent of mine, identifyingbirds at the southeast.
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Oh God, that's funny to me.
Anyways, I think that's all shewrote.
I need to go eat.
I feel very hungry after thisepisode.
Um, but then again, I'm alwayshungry.
So there's that.
And, I think you're awesome.
I appreciate you being here, andhopefully this episode
entertains you.
I hope it empowered you in itsown way, and if not, you know,
maybe you giggled at mymisfortune because, sometimes
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that's all you can do is laughthrough the pain.
And Lord knows I've been doing alot of that lately.
But cheers to hype people.
Cheers to dreams, cheers tofollowing a budget, AKA,
creating one in the first place.
And you know.
Let's see where this ride takesus because, uh, I have some good
feelings about it.
So if you're not doing soalready, you can follow me on
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Instagram at Elizabeth Cheneyand at In Between Pod and then
on YouTube and TikTok at theInBetween podcast.
Ooh.
Also, before I forget, I wentwith my friend Sarah to see the
re-release of Pride andPrejudice for its 20th
anniversary.
And I just want you to know thatmovie still freaking slaps.
Definitely one of my top threefavorite movies.
I think Pride and Prejudice hasinspired my love life.
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I'm not necessarily meaning aenemies to lovers story plot.
I don't think I would reallylike that because I don't need
any more stress in my life.
But, uh, just lean into thathopeless, romantic mindset.
cheers to love and cheers todreams.
Ooh, so cheesy, but I love it.
Boop.
All right.
I'll see you next time on an allnew in-between.
Until then, I'm Elizabeth.
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Bye.
Hey, hey, hey.
Welcome back to another episodeof The In-Between.
I'm your host, Elizabeth Cheney.
Uh, I'm just gonna go ahead andpreface, I am overwhelmed, I'm
overstimulated.
I am.
Not doing so well in all thischaos of my house.
But you know what?
We're here recording, so that isa, triumph.
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Nonetheless.
I don't even know if that wordreally makes sense for the
context.
I am just all over the place.
How's this episode gonna go?
You know what, it's anyone'sgame at this point.
So welcome.
Thank you for being here.
If you're new here, well, youpicked quite the episode to come
listen on.
So.
Ah, you know, lemme just take adeep breath.
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Goodness gracious.
So I don't even know where tobegin.
It's not that one thing inparticular has happened, it's
just.
The to-dos are never ending whenit comes to this house.
I think, okay, I hired ahandyman.
He came and did all this stuffthat's gonna make me feel great.
it did, it did make me feelgreat.
I wanna preface that.
I don't wanna disregard all thework I had done and all the
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money I paid to get it done.
but it's like, oh, well thatjust highlighted all the other
things I have to do.
It's like, when do the to-dosstop?
I'd like to know on top of myextroversion that just needs to
chill the fuck out because I'mdoing this, I'm doing that.
I'm trying to get back into thepodcast, which also means
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networking, reaching out topeople, which again.
I'm sure the next episode that Irecord, I'm gonna be coolest
cucumber.
I'm gonna be cool, calm,collected, and be like, oh man,
I was freaking out.
P I'm a G.
But right now, today, this week,I'm overwhelmed.
I'm overwhelmed.
You know, this house is a lotfor one little girly like
myself, and I'm also realizingjust how much handy skills I do
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not have.
I'm not saying I can't build apiece of furniture, but I am
saying I can't find a stud in awall to save my life.
I am saying I don't even knowhow to do little screw caps.
You know the things, the plasticthings that go into the wall
that.
I don't know, support the screw.
I don't know why it's gonna be atwo part deal, but I cannot do
it to save my life.
I mean, heck, we all know that Ialmost died hanging a sh uh,
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almost a shower curtain.
Let's hope I don't die doingthat.
But I almost died hanging a, acurtain rod.
So that should have been myforeshadow as to what I was
gonna get myself into with thishouse.
Uh, you know, all that said anddone, I feel like I'm just
pouring out money.
It's like, okay, one big chunkof change there.
One big chunk of change there.
And then I'm like, oh, well nowthat this is done, I wanna get
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this podcast studio going.
And, uh, that costs money to getthose chairs.
I feel like I'm whi whining, butit's my podcast so I can do
that.
Hopefully it's entertaining, butit's just like, wow.
So much.
There's so much to do.
I'll give you an example.
I bought a shed.
I have no business putting ashed together, but I'm gonna try
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because I cannot handle all thepower tools and all the shit
that's in my house.
That's just taking up space.
So what is she gonna do?
She's gonna try to build thisshed because it's a put together
shed and, uh, my whole backyardis pretty much a slope, so that
makes that fun for me.
But.
There is like one little areathat is flat and I'm, I'm just
gonna take it.
Is it gonna look aestheticallypleasing?
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I have no earthly idea, butguess what?
I'm gonna put that damn shedtogether if it kills me.
And you know, it might becausesaid curtain rod on top of that,
I saw this thing on the internetthat was like, the reason I
procrastinate is'cause I'm sogood at procrastinating and I
always get it done.
So then I continue toprocrastinate.
'cause I always, you know, wow.
I think I just kinda went incircles there.
Basically, my point being is Iprocrastinate so much because I
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always get the job done.
It might stress me out to no endgetting there.
It might, you know.
Almost die hanging a curtainrod.
But I get it all done and that'swhy my brain cannot stop
procrastinating.
And honestly, I'll throw myselfa bone here.
It's not that I procrastinate alot, it's just.
I don't know.
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I get stuck in my head.
I get lost in all the thoughts.
I get lost in all the things Ihave to do because it's like you
gotta do all these things in thehouse and then you gotta build
all these things.
And then there's your podcastthat you wanna do, and then you
wanna finish updating yourwebsite because again, I'm only
halfway through with myspeaking.
Gotta figure that out.
A blog post, never met her.
Maybe one day we'll get there.
A newsletter, a dream, quite thedream.
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Jokes aside, I know it'll allcome together'cause it is slowly
but surely, but I shit you not,it's like you knock five things
off and 15 more pop up and I'mlike, huh?
Oh my God.
What am I gonna get above water?
Because I'm overwhelmed.
I'm so overwhelmed.
You know what?
Let's be honest.
She's not gonna stop meetingpeople.
She's not gonna stop talking topeople.
She's not gonna stop being anextrovert because that is who I
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am.
So I might as well just embraceit.
So I'll find a balance.
I'll find a balance.
I mean.
I am brushing my teeth, youknow, morning and night.
So there's a win.
I am washing my face for themost part.
Oh, and my, my doctor would behappy to know that I'm still
taking all my vitaminsroutinely.
So there are some wins.
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Snaps for Liz.
Snaps.
Snaps for Liz.
But one thing, I mean, there's alot that I wanna say, but kind
of on the same topic, I, onething I wanna say is I would
love.
Some masculine energy aroundhere.
Not even necessarily for my ownromantic, dare I say sexual
needs, I just mean handyman.
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Literally a handyman needs.
I don't have a dad.
I don't have any brothers.
My cousin, my male cousin livesin frigging North Carolina now,
which miss him.
Love you guys so much.
and my uncle has like hipsurgery.
I don't freaking know all thisto say I don't really have a lot
of male energy.
To come help me and as a strong,independent woman who don't need
no man, I know that's hard forme to say and I want you to know
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the situation must be dire forme to admit that I need a man's
help.
Not that my girlfriends can'thelp, but like for example, we
can't all reach some of thethings that I need help with.
We all don't have tools that I'msure some men have.
And maybe I'm generalizing, Idon't even freaking know.
All I know is if there couldjust be someone that shows up at
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my door and is like, Hey.
Let me help you.
I'd probably cry.
I, yeah, I'd definitely probablycry.
I'd give you a big hug.
I'd cook you a home cooked mealand I would be very grateful.
So if there's anyone who fitsthat profile, who would like to
help me not feel so much likeI'm drowning, applications are
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open, literally my door's open.
I think at this point I wouldtake anyone with a pulse that
isn't gonna kill me or stealfrom me, so that'd be great.
because the handyman that Ihired was a little expensive and
I don't know if I can hire himagain.
Okay.
Okay.
That's been their conversation.
Uh, but anyways, it's all great.
Like here I am talking about allthe to-dos and instead I'm
recording an episode.
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So priorities, because thosedreams aren't gonna dream
themself.
They're not gonna happenthemself.
Definitely gotta do it.
Do the damn thing.
And it's like.
Wow.
I can just sit here and thinkabout all the things I have to
do, and oh, maybe I'll do ittomorrow, or I'll do this
tomorrow, or the podcast, blah,blah, blah.
And it's like.
At some point you have to stopyourself and go, it's only gonna
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get done if you actually do it.
Simply said, but gosh darn, ifthat is not such a hard pill to
swallow sometimes I saw thisthing as well on the internet.
'cause the internet is oursource of truth.
Right?
Right.
Uh, it is A-A-D-H-D profile.
Profile.
I file, whoa, can't even speak.
I'm getting ahead of myself.
An A DHD profile I follow onInstagram.
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And I forget what they calledit, but the premise is you have
different lists in differentrooms and it helps your brain, I
don't know, process itdifferently, not feel so
overwhelmed, not feel so like,like scattered.
Because the thing iseverything's gotta get done.
And although I've worked reallyhard on the whole, it doesn't
have to get done right now, butit's like.
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In the situation I'm in, there'sjust a never ending flow of
things to do and it's like, holymoly.
So I've thought about maybe I'llhave my tasks around the house
list in one room.
Then I have my goals, podcasts,in between all of that stuff in
another room.
And then, you know, my personalto-dos, things I gotta do, like
for example, gotta get myadmissions done because my
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birthday is like just around thecorner, which.
Happy taurus season.
You know, yesterday I was like,oh yeah, at start of taurus
season I'm feeling great.
Boom, ba boom.
I feel the power.
And then, another sleeplessnight I woke up stressed out
because, well, there was like somany fires at work and it was
quite, quite the, the hustle andbustle.
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So it's just been a lot.
But she gets through it becauseshe has to, she has to survive.
but It's all good.
It's all good.
Just another chapter in my book.
Goodness.
But we'll see if that helps.
You know, I will try anythingonce.
So.
Well, that's a lie.
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I don't think I would actuallytry skydiving because I'm
terrified of heights, but, youknow, never say never.
So there's that.
But back to the wholeprocrastinating thing, it would
be great to break that cycle.
I feel like I get better andbetter like little by little.
and I'm sure anyone who's boughta house or is trying to.
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Make a place their own.
Uh, you can feel me on the neverending to-dos.
I am just gonna wind just alittle bit more.
It would be a lot easier withtwo people, but you know what?
That we're not even gonna touchbecause I absolutely made the
right decision there.
and I am to OCD to handle havinga roommate right now.
I mean, I've made this space myown now, so like where are they
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gonna sleep on the couch, whichI won't lie, my couch is pretty
freaking comfortable, so maybe Iwill Hey, couch for rent
anyways.
it is just quite.
Quite the life.
jokes aside, procrastinationaside, never ending to-do list
aside.
I am getting it done.
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I mean, now that I'm recordingand I can let some of my
excitement, for lack of betterwords, my eccentric self calm
down a little bit.
I do feel better.
Do I have to go outside andtouch grass a few times?
Yes, I do.
Uh, you know, yesterday I was sooverwhelmed with work, so
stressed out, I was like down inthe dump, so to speak.
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I was feeling doom and gloom,like, oh my gosh, someone's
stressed, someone's anxiety.
And then I went outside and Ilet the sunshine hit my face and
I was like, oh.
This is what it's for.
This is why we do it.
This is why we need thesunshine.
This is what they mean bytouching grass.
do I go outside throughout myday, especially when I'm
stressed out?
Normally, yes.
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I touch grass quite frequentlyand it helps.
It works.
Who knows?
Maybe it's'cause I'm a earthsign, I don't freaking know, but
I will take the sunshine on acloudy day.
Right.
Right.
so yeah, I am a little in overmy head, but that's okay.
I always land on my feet.
Maybe this time, I am gonna askfor help.
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So if you wanna help your girlout again, I'll give you a home
cooked meal.
I'll give you a hug and I'llprobably cry.
I mean, the handyman installedmy ceiling fans, which is great,
and I was trying to figure outwhat light bulbs to put in it,
because regular light bulbs are,are too wide, like the bulb
itself, not so much the base,but the bulb itself.
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So I look at the box, I see whatlight bulbs it says to order,
and I'm not an idiot.
I can read order said lightbulbs and they're too skinny,
they don't fit what in the hell?
I blame Amazon.
I absolutely blame Amazon'causealso screw Jeff Bezos.
But also I buy a lot off Amazon'cause it's cheap and it's quick
and I need it and I'moverwhelmed and it's easy.
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But all that to say, I don'tknow what I'm doing.
I'm in over my head again, thescrews, there's so many things
that need to be screwed in mywalls and I just need help.
Okay.
I think that's enough unloading.
Um, hopefully your lives are notas chaotic, and if they are,
well snaps.
We'll get through this together.
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A couple of updates.
I'm gonna get Invisalign, so ina couple of weeks I may have a
lisp and you'll just have todeal with it.
Hopefully it won't be too bad.
That's one thing I asked thedoctor.
I was like, or the dentist.
Well, the dentist is the doctor,right?
Am I an idiot there too?
I'm laughing at myself.
Absolutely.
They are a doctor.
Uh, I was asking him, I waslike, yo, so, uh, I have a
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podcast, big deal over here,and, uh, I just wanna know like,
how was the lisp situation withthe, the retainers?
And he's like, you might have aslight one, but you'll get used
to it and kind of adjust.
And I was like, great, great,great, great.
And they have to put these likethings, I don't even know what
you wanna call it.
It's like, not an adhesion, butit's like this like.
Not a bracket, but somethingthat they put on your tooth that
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comes off once your invisalign'sdone.
But it's, I guess, meant to kindof help the retainer pull your
teeth in whatever directionyou're trying to do.
And he shows me a diagram ofwhere they're gonna go in my
mouth.
And he's like, when you're notwearing the retainer, you can't
really tell at all.
But when you wear the retainer,you kind of see because the
retainer is glossy and you seelike the ridges and things like
that.
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And I'm like, you got me wearingone of these things on one of my
front teeth.
So I have no idea if I'm gonnalook like a clown.
Uh, but you know, I only have towear'em for like six months, so
at least there's that.
But oh my gosh.
What am I getting myself into?
I don't know.
I really wanna Invisalign'causeI wanna fix my teeth.
So that's a fun update.
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Then my mother and I havedecided to go to New York in two
weeks.
Yeah.
Decided that today, uh, it waskind of a surprise, but also I
needed to use my companionticket before I cancel my Amex
card.
'cause I wanna get a Chase card.
not that Delta is bad, but youknow, you gotta expand your
horizons'cause delta's sofricking expensive.
Anyways.
All that said and done, I wasnot about to waste that
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companion pass.
So we're gonna New York again, Ican't wait.
And it's gonna be even more funbecause her hips are replaced.
Did I word that?
Did I say that right?
She has new hips now versus whenwe went in August, she hadn't
had her first surgery.
So we're gonna be bebopping andyou know, zooming through New
York and get to see areas andparts that we didn't get to see
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before and maybe even get toexplore Brooklyn at least for a
day.
So I'm so excited.
'cause New York is definitelyone of those cities that.
I think I would thrive in, uh,don't know if I'm gonna move
there because I have this giantass house to take care of and I
can't quite sell it yet.
So a girl can dream.
But you know, I've always saidmy dreams are gonna take me to
New York all the time.
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So even if that's not home base,I.
I'll still be there a lot.
So that's exciting.
Something to look forward to anduh, me and Ashley and our friend
Tee Tee are gonna start planningour big European vest.
Wow.
I was gonna say vacation anddestination that came out.
Destination.
So there's a new word for you.
Uh, but we're gonna startplanning that this weekend
because that is around thecorner too.
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Here I am complaining aboutmoney and I'm also the one
spending it.
So she is a Taurus through andthrough, but you know.
I think I said this on the lastepisode, I'm only gonna be at
this place in my life once hohopefully, Lord willing, I'm not
gonna be single forever.
Uh, she does want a familyeventually, but, you know, being
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single, being with my friends,getting to go travel the world
and I don't know, just go do thedamn thing.
Like, I don't know.
It's just exciting.
So.
Once in a lifetime trip, can'twait.
Gonna start planning that.
Literally, like we have so manyideas for itinerary, like even
other countries involved.
So who knows where this trip'sgonna land.
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But I did say this is my budget,X, Y, Z, and I cannot go over it
because I am one who will easilygo over it.
So we're trying to beresponsible, you know, we don't
wanna drown in debt.
Just kidding.
I don't have debt.
We're okay.
But.
Again, this house just keepspresenting new things that must
be done and bought, so gotta becareful on that, but it's gonna
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be fine.
It's gonna be great.
uh, I made a joke.
Earlier about my sleep.
I don't even remember what thejoke was about.
'cause that seems like years agonow.
Uh, but no update there.
Still not sleeping.
I just bought magnesium spray.
'cause I've heard that helpslike you spread on your feet
before you go to bed.
And everyone who's recommendedit says it puts me to bed like a
(16:35):
baby.
So maybe that will be my cure.
Maybe that will be my fix.
But let me tell you guys I am sostressed out as to why I'm not
sleeping.
I am sure that is creating morechaos in my life and adding to
all of this like intense anxietyof like my to-dos and being
overwhelmed, overstimulated.
But holy shite.
What does a girl gotta do to beable to sleep?
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I would love to know.
I don't even care anymore aboutthe bags under my eyes.
I mean, of course I care, butlike.
I just wanna sleep at thispoint.
I wanna sleep through the night.
That doesn't involve me drinkingor taking drugs.
That's a lie.
I don't take drugs, but you knowwhat I mean.
I tried doing the magnesium pillthing, like the capsule form,
and then if I fell asleep, itgave me the most stressful
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dreams.
I don't even wanna tell you someof the dreams I've had, but like
things that are spooky, thingsthat are scary, things that keep
you up at night, like my momgetting murdered, like
literally, knock on wood, findsome wood.
I mean, seriously, like what inthe hell?
Then I started drinking thispowder stuff, like put it in
some water before I go to bed.
I thought that helped, but didit last night and I just stared
(17:43):
at my ceiling.
And then when I start to dozeoff, it's like I kind of come in
between of like, huh, no punintended, in between sleep and
like being awake.
And then I look at the clock,and again, it's 3:00 AM and we
know how I feel about that.
Where's the demons?
Where's the ghost?
Who's trying to get me?
And I have like this really bigmirror in front of my bed, which
I love.
(18:03):
However, when you are likedelirious and half asleep.
You know, it just takes onelittle light or whatever to just
spook you to no end.
So, I don't know.
And I have these dreams thatseem so realistic.
I don't know, still trying tofigure it out.
Um, I guess I'll sleep when I'mdead at this point.
(18:24):
I, oh God.
I just, I, uh, it's a lot.
It's a lot, but we're figuringit out.
Again, remember I'm taking myvitamins, so at least there's
that.
I definitely think I am aculprit of the whole revenge
bedtime thing.
I, I talked about this like ayear ago, and maybe you've seen
(18:45):
it on the internet, but it'sabout like.
Why you procrastinate going tobed.
And although I will say I havenow developed anxiety about
going to sleep'cause I'm likestressed out.
Am I gonna sleep tonight?
I don't know.
So I'm sure that's not helping.
Oh God, I just need a win.
Because I have so much going onduring the day,'cause work has
been insanely busy, and then Ido what little bit I can, once
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I'm finished with whatevermental stimulation I have left,
once the wee hours of the nightstart to creep in, I'm like, oh.
Oh gosh.
Am I gonna sleep tonight?
I don't know.
I don't know.
And then I'll stay awake andthen I'll be like, okay, it's
midnight.
I need to go to bed.
But then it's like I've pushedthrough the sleepiness, not that
I ever really feel sleepy.
(19:28):
And yeah, here's the story.
That's all she wrote.
So I did just buy a projectorfrom my bedroom, and I'm like,
maybe if I have like some kindof like TV to go to bed too,
maybe that will help.
I'll try anything at this point.
Well, for the most part.
I won't try everything, but Iwill try all the healthy, safe
recommendations you have tooffer.
(19:49):
So that's where my mental healthis at.
We are surviving.
I'm going to just be, uh, overlypositive and say we're thriving
ish, but we're gonna get therebecause we always do.
'cause we're gonna get help.
Someone is gonna be like, oh myGod, Elizabeth, let me help you.
I want to help you.
And I'm gonna be like, Ugh, myhero, or one my girlfriends is
(20:09):
gonna frigging net up her.
Shut up and come help me.
That makes me sound ungrateful.
Trust me, I have the bestfreaking friends in the world.
But I really think I need somemale energy, some male help.
Anyways, I'm gonna start theartist's way, which here I am
just complaining about all ofthe shit I have to do and I'm
like, but let me add one morething.
Uh, maybe I should rephrasethis.
(20:30):
I'm going to attempt to startthe artist's way'cause I have a
friend who wants to do it withme and I actually think that she
and I could be.
Like buddies in this and holdeach other accountable, but at
the same time I'm like, should Istart next week?
And then I'm like, Ooh, I knowhow that mindset goes.
I start next week, then it's thefollowing week, and then before
I know it, it's freaking July.
And I'm like, well, maybe I'llstart the artist way when I'm
(20:50):
65.
I don't know, but that's okay.
Uh, I have been reading more, soyou know what?
I need to acknowledge the smallwins and like, and wins.
I mean in terms of doing thehobbies or habits or whatever it
is that I'm trying to do.
And then also recognize.
Just because you started readinga little bit each week doesn't
mean you're ready to take on onemore side thing.
(21:11):
So remember how I thought I wasgonna learn Pink Pony Club on my
birthday?
Let's all laugh with me.
Oh, goodness gracious.
But going back to theextroversion and all of that,
getting back into the flow ofreaching out to people and
contacts and networking and,mingling with my girlfriends and
(21:32):
things like that.
My friend, my girlfriend Brooke,she owns her own PR agency.
I met her last year at an A TLBucket List event.
She is fabulous.
I always tell her, I'm like,you're literally the coolest
girl.
I know, like, of course I havecool friends, but like.
Brooke is like, cool.
Like I don't even know if thatmakes sense, hearing that back,
but you know what I mean?
She's just like, cool.
(21:56):
If you're listening to this,Brooke, I hope you're giggling.
Uh, but anyways, she is aphenomenal hype woman.
All of my girlfriends arephenomenal hype woman.
Hell, I am a phenomenal hypewoman.
So hype women, find fellow hypewomen in my right.
But with Brooke having the PRbackground and being kind of a,
(22:17):
not a content creator friend,but meeting her in this space,
and we call this space like mydream space, like the goals I
have for myself, theentrepreneurial pursuits, all of
that.
Especially because, you know, Idon't wanna say I am nobody, but
like, hmm, I'm not somebody yet,but I'm gonna be somebody one
day.
All that to say, her belief inme and her hyping me up is.
(22:40):
Incredible.
And I really, really appreciateit.
She'll always be like, I knowyou're gonna be famous.
I knew that the second I metyou.
And I'm like, I needed to hearthat'cause I had three
breakdowns earlier.
Thanks girl.
I joke, joke, joke, but she isincredible.
And, the reason I'm bringing herup, we had a girl's outing this
past weekend.
Somehow I ended up with threeUber driver's phone numbers, not
(23:00):
for like, you know, datingpurposes, but.
They're like, if you ever needa, driver, here's my card,
here's my number.
I will, I'll come pick you up.
'cause it's cheaper thanUbering.
And I guess maybe not that I saythat out loud.
That's a great thing.
But yeah, don't know how thathappened.
Anyways, girls night having fun.
And we are at the St.
Regis having drinks and Ryan'sSeacrest is there.
(23:22):
Ryan Seacrest is from Atlanta,Uh, I don't think he lives here
now, but I'm sure he visits'cause I'm sure his family's
here.
And we're like, oh my God.
It's Ryan Seacrest.
Um, a very beautiful humanbeing.
And she immediately startstrying to write my number down
on a linen napkin and myInstagram handle for the
podcast.
Not in any way, like I'm aboutto leave my number for Ryan's
(23:43):
secrets, but to, Hey, you needto connect with this person kind
of thing.
And with it being a linennapkin, we couldn't get the pin
to write.
And it was just like he wasleaving this and this, that and
that.
And she's like, do you have abusiness card?
And I look at her and I'm like,Brooke, do you think I have a
business card?
And as soon as I say that, Ithink, oh shit, I need a
(24:04):
business card.
And she says to me, you need abusiness card with a QR code
that goes to your Spotify.
Better yet, a link tree thatlinks to Spotify, apple, your
website, even your speakingpage.
And I was like, you are genius.
You're so right.
So that when I do have thesevery few and far between
moments, at least starting offright now with people that.
You never know what couldhappen.
(24:25):
I could whip out a professionallooking business card, and I'm
like, yo, Ryan, you wannaconnect with me because I'm all
about following your dreams,which I know you dropped outta
UGA back in the day because yousaid, screw it.
I wanna follow my dream and lookat you.
You're freaking Ryan Seacrest.
Everyone knows who you are.
So, I mean, your game is mygame.
(24:45):
I'm just not quite to your levelyet.
And I also graduated college,but you know.
In my defense, I didn't have mydreams then, or at least I was
not in tune with them.
so have I ordered business cardsin the past few days?
No, but I promise you, by theend of this week, by the time
this recording comes out, Iwould've bought them.
(25:05):
So nothing like holding myselfaccountable on my own podcast.
Okay.
Okay.
But kind of the point of whatI'm saying.
Two things.
One, Ryan Seacrest, if you'relistening, I would love, love,
love, love for you to come onthe podcast.
We can talk about what it meansto follow your dream, what it
means to bet on yourself, whichis always my favorite
(25:28):
conversation, and like thejourney that got you there and
look at you and your success.
Also, I think I'm entertainingand I think we'd probably get
along really well.
The second point to this is youneed people like Brooke in your
corner.
You need people like my friendsin your corner.
I know that I'm being verygeneral, but like I have some of
the best freaking friends in theworld who believe in me when I
(25:50):
doubt myself, who hype me upwhen I'm feeling low, who remind
me what my magic is, what mytalent is.
And of course I do the same forthem, but.
It is so important in havinghype people in your circle,
okay?
And, and not just hyping youwhen you're down.
Like, yeah, girl, you got this.
You're gonna get back on thepodcast, you're gonna get back
in the flow.
(26:11):
But even having friends whenyou're going through it.
I mean, we all know, I just wentthrough a major life transition
and it meant a lot to me.
Of course, my best friends beingthere, but even some of my
content friends, like peopleI've met in the podcast,
community, content creator,community, reaching out,
checking in on me, Hey, you'vebeen kind of quiet.
What's going on?
And I'm like, well, you see, thething is my life imploded and
(26:35):
here's the, here's the tea.
And in being able to do thatback for them, I say that
because I have a few friendsgoing through some major life
shit right now.
And for me, being on the otherside of mine, minus all the
to-dos in this house, jokesaside, it's an honor to be able
to be that hype person, thatsupport person, that reminder
(26:56):
that, hey, your art matters.
Your dreams matter.
Sometimes you gotta pause,sometimes you've gotta take a
step back.
Sometimes you gotta balance, youknow, find that flow, but you're
gonna get through it and I'mgonna help you.
I'm gonna be there for you.
You never know how much a littletext message can go.
They always say a littlekindness goes a long way.
(27:16):
And that's so freaking true.
So you need hype people.
That's what we're gonna refer tothem as.
And Brooke is an incredible hypewoman.
I am so.
Grateful that she's not just ahype woman in my life, but she's
also a good friend.
And I can't wait to see wherethis future, this future, this
future, this lifetime, wherethis dream goes, because I know
(27:38):
it's gonna go somewhere.
And, cheers to your girlfriends,your hype People who see Ryan
Seacrest and their first meansof action is, let me write your
number and your Instagram handledown.
All right, let's do somebusiness cards because.
Maybe it's Ryan's Secrets nowand then tomorrow it's Jeff
Goldblum, which, you know, thatwould make me pass the whew,
that'd make me pass out in somany good ways.
(28:00):
But, uh, you know, maybe one daywe'll manifest that.
I always have said I will havehim on the podcast and mark my
freaking words.
But all that to say, it'sexciting when these kind of
moments happen.
And even if I feel a little likeLa la li, like, I'm delusional.
I'm de Lulu.
I have my girl, Brooke, beinglike, no, that's exactly what
you gotta do.
You gotta put yourself outthere.
(28:21):
You gotta bet on yourself.
And then to bring it fullcircle, that's what Mr.
Seacrest did, our friend Ryan.
Okay.
And look at him.
So there's nothing wrong withbelieving in your dreams.
It might take a lot of guts,spa, a lot of blood, sweat, and
tears.
Maybe not as much blood as I, Ithink, but you know what I mean.
Sweat, tears, metaphoricalblood.
But you're gonna get there.
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You just can't give up on it.
And I'm gonna be honest, youcan't do it alone, even if
you're the one doing the damnthing.
And it's your dream.
You need your hype people, youneed your community.
You need your personalcommunity.
You need your friends, yourfamily.
Yes.
And then you also need yourcommunity.
Community, the people that aredoing what you wanna do.
Maybe not directly andspecifically, but the people who
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can understand the hustle canunderstand what you're going
through.
So find your people.
It's important.
Buy the dang business cards.
Set up the link tree and Ryan'sseacrest.
Give me a freaking call becauseI think we could create a
magical episode if I do say somyself and as an Atlanta native.
Isn't that a bonus point?
Okay.
Okay.
(29:25):
Enough begging.
Mr.
Secrest, why do I keep callingMr.
Seacrest?
That sounds so weird.
Um, the Pro by Mrs.
Egress, listen to me.
Uh, but all that said and done,I feel magical.
Wow.
I feel like that's a very, avery different vibe that I
started the episode off with.
But hey, that just goes to showyou how much I love doing this.
(29:47):
And like, she's got it.
She's got it.
but don't give up.
Believe in yourself.
Always bet on yourself.
No matter what it is.
You don't have to be anentrepreneur and have some crazy
ass dreams like I do.
To bet on yourself.
Bet on yourself for thepromotion.
Bet on yourself to cook thatcrazy complicated recipe in the
kitchen.
Bet on yourself to be able tohang a curtain rod, not die.
(30:08):
I'm not betting on myself there.
That's for dang sure.
Bet on yourself to figure outhow to sleep through the night.
That's a goal that I'm gonnamaintain.
Until I can figure it out, Iwill figure it out.
I know I will, but don't stop.
At least not permanentlyunderstand.
Sometimes we need breaks.
I.
but always bet on you becausewhat else are you gonna do in
(30:32):
this life?
You just gonna stare out intothe, the sky.
Granted, I'm definitely becomethat person who just stares out
the window and looks at all thebirds in my backyard.
So much so that my team, I.
Thinks it's funny because Iwon't even realize it.
A DD probably, but I look off,get distracted'cause there's
some crazy hawks or a flock ofbirds, I don't know.
Just crazy animal activity in mybackyard.
(30:54):
And one of my teammates, I callher my work wife slash work
bestie, she got me a birdwatching book.
So I have entered that era.
I think I've mentioned thisbefore in a couple episodes ago,
but I just need y'all to knowthat it's in full swing.
It's also very calming, butalso.
F, maybe it's gonna be a newsecret.
Talent of mine, identifyingbirds at the southeast.
(31:21):
Oh God, that's funny to me.
Anyways, I think that's all shewrote.
I need to go eat.
I feel very hungry after thisepisode.
Um, but then again, I'm alwayshungry.
So there's that.
And, I think you're awesome.
I appreciate you being here, andhopefully this episode
entertains you.
I hope it empowered you in itsown way, and if not, you know,
maybe you giggled at mymisfortune because, sometimes
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that's all you can do is laughthrough the pain.
And Lord knows I've been doing alot of that lately.
But cheers to hype people.
Cheers to dreams, cheers tofollowing a budget, AKA,
creating one in the first place.
And you know.
Let's see where this ride takesus because, uh, I have some good
feelings about it.
So if you're not doing soalready, you can follow me on
(32:03):
Instagram at Elizabeth Cheneyand at In Between Pod and then
on YouTube and TikTok at theInBetween podcast.
Ooh.
Also, before I forget, I wentwith my friend Sarah to see the
re-release of Pride andPrejudice for its 20th
anniversary.
And I just want you to know thatmovie still freaking slaps.
Definitely one of my top threefavorite movies.
I think Pride and Prejudice hasinspired my love life.
(32:24):
I'm not necessarily meaning aenemies to lovers story plot.
I don't think I would reallylike that because I don't need
any more stress in my life.
But, uh, just lean into thathopeless, romantic mindset.
cheers to love and cheers todreams.
Ooh, so cheesy, but I love it.
Boop.
All right.
I'll see you next time on an allnew in-between.
Until then, I'm Elizabeth.
(32:46):
Bye.
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