Episode 10. 360 won`t go away,

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Speaker 4 (00:02):
Welcome to the Inca here in podcast.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (00:11):
welcome to episode 10 of the Incoherent
Podcast.
Who, Zach, did you realize it'sbeen 10 weeks since we started
doing this,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (00:21):
No, I didn't realize it's been 10
weeks.
It doesn't feel that long.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (00:24):
Well, we have missed a couple.
I was away for a couple.
You didn't start at the start.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (00:30):
and I've been here for all 11 episodes.
'cause we had the bonus NRLGrand final episode as well.
So yeah, I've done 11 straight.
So Achievement unlocked already

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (00:42):
do you want a metal or a chest to
pin that on?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (00:45):
both.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (00:46):
You can only have won.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (00:48):
Mm.
Yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-202 (00:50):
Oh look, you might as well take the
medal because you're never gonnawin the interior cop.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (00:54):
Oh, I'm gonna win it.
We're sitting there having alook today.
We've got.
Few things going on, so tryingto make things a little bit
better.
So we've always been up to thisweek.
Other than work,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11- (01:08):
Work.
I work six days a week, mate.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (01:11):
I don't,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (01:12):
You

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (01:13):
did work six days a fortnight.

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (01:16):
no, I do, I do.
10 days a fortnight.
This fortnight.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (01:19):
you don't because you have sickies.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (01:22):
Oh yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (01:25):
Yeah,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (01:25):
I didn't, I had to take my wife to
hospital'cause she might've beenhaving a stroke.
but luckily enough she didn't.
But it was long wait at JohnHunter Hospital for six hours
with two kids.
What else?
He has been up to just watch anysport getting into any games.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025 (01:44):
Didn't get much sporting this week.
Caught the highlights of theashes and a few A-League games
and a few other bits and pieces,but yeah, pretty full on
weekends.
lots of beers were drunk.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2 (01:58):
yes.
There was a few beers drunk onthe weekend.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (02:01):
Oh, I, I didn't bother getting up for the
ashes and ended up being threenil anyway, so I didn't even
watch the highlights to behonest.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025 (02:09):
I don't even know it was on.
I thought it was on next week.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (02:11):
you stand by Kevy picking the same
squad, or do you think thoseguys that went over there should
have been given a chance toplay?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (02:21):
I think the, the emus as they call'em, I
think they should have, beengiven a chance to be fair,
they've gone over there, they'vedone the four weeks over there,
so at least give them a chanceto play.
The job was already done, but atthe same time, it's pretty tough
for those incumbent players togive up their test jersey.
you only get to play so manytests in your career.

(02:43):
So

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (02:44):
Yeah, but you also, those other
players have left their familiesbehind, have gone over there.
They, yeah, I think earned thechance to have a crack and have
been given it.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (03:01):
I can see the point of both sides of the
coin, it's pretty tough to giveup your jersey and.
I can also say they've been overthere.
They probably should have beengiven an opportunity, but
they're there to cover injuriesand stuff.
And there was only really, Yo'sinjury was the only one really.
So, they got lucky through allof that and went through pretty

(03:21):
easily.
Really?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2039 (03:23):
I don't think clearly done enough
to keep number seven,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (03:26):
Uh,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (03:28):
nah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (03:28):
I didn't watch this week's game, but
yeah.
What do you reckon, Uber?

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025 (03:33):
I didn't know it was on, yeah, I
did, I did watch the NewZealand, SAMO game, but that was
a really good

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (03:40):
Yeah.
I watched a bit of that before.
I go and do something.
I can't remember what it was,but it cut the game short, so.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025 (03:47):
I thought Samo was gonna have New
Zealand there at one stage.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (03:50):
Yeah, they were up, what was it, 14, six at
half time.

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (03:56):
They put in the effort and New Zealand
just come back through toostrong and ran away with it in
the end.
Samoa didn't score any points inthe second half and let a lot
in, so.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (04:06):
No, they did score in the second
half, late.
In the second half I think it

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (04:09):
Oh, did they?
I thought it was still four.
I thought it was still 14.
Well,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (04:14):
See you happy Dbags.
Number seven.
For the nights,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (04:18):
yep,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (04:19):
you

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (04:20):
he can carry that form.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (04:21):
you think he's done enough in those
test matches to to warrant beinggiven the keys at the night

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (04:29):
Yep.
I think he can.
He, he needs the forwards to goforward, but give him time.
But I think, I think he's a goodplayer.
I think people just, you know,blame him for a shitty situation
in a team that was designed forMoses.
I don't think he's a bad player.
I think people drum up how badhe is, to be honest.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2039 (04:49):
I think he's, he's not a bad
player, but I just, I personallythink he's a better six.
But

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (04:57):
Yeah,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (04:57):
that Parramatta team was designed for
Moses.
Yes.
But Ford Pack was there to lay aplatform, and Brian, I don't
think Brian was good enough to,to play off the back of that.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (05:11):
he, he controlled the New Zealand team.
he can take control when youneed still and put his little
bid into it.
he was the difference in thosetest matches.
All three of'em that he played,

Yeah, for

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (05:20):
that's why they've got him as a talking
point of being Golden Boot., Heplayed really well in all those
games.
he was the standout and that'swhat he needs to be at the
nights.
He needs to be a standout fromweek to week.
That'll take pressure on offPonga and hopefully that unlocks
some attack.
And yeah,

he's there, if he's there,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (05:41):
he'll be,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (05:42):
the rumors are, he's had talks with
the warriors manager, owner andI've seen there earlier.
He's also been spotted with ofthe chief from the, rugby 360.
with them,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (05:57):
yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (05:57):
was being spotted with dinner with
him.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (06:00):
Yeah.
Look, ever since Pa Ka and Simonwith the ninth, it's always been
talked that he is gonna leave.
And it doesn't actually botherme if he leaves or he doesn't
leave.
'cause we've got coverage thereand it probably makes it
headache a little bit easier.
But until he leaves, he is stillthere.

(06:20):
He is still on the thing, sohe's still on the roster.
So if he leaves, he leaves.
If he doesn't, he doesn't.

when, when I seen that he was talking
to the Warrior's boss, I satthere and I thought, do the
Warriors really need him?
And then I actually thought heprobably wouldn't be a bad fit
in that Warriors team.
we are losing players.
two of us are Shaq, he's, he'sgonna stay there as long as he
can, but 360 is coming up, so heis probably gonna go to

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (06:48):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2039 (06:49):
I dunno, I don't, I don't mind
tool

squadcaster-ead4_1_11 (06:52):
fullback.
He's, he is a really goodplayer.
I, I just think he's too small.
Too small for fullback.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (06:58):
Nah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (06:59):
The one of the best fullbacks ever
to play the games in Mango andlook how big he was.

Yeah.
But he's, he hasn't got thejump.
He can't jump.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (07:10):
he'll grow, with more experience in
the NRL, he'll evolve and he'llmake that, that full box
fullback spot.
He's,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (07:19):
You got Ben Barber, Preston Campbell.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (07:21):
yeah, there's been a lot of fullbacks
that are,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (07:24):
Even Jay Gray's not that tall.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (07:26):
If he, if he gets a little bit more
solid, works on that hiptraining and, and really get
through the tackles with hiships, Tommy Dens and the
Campbells and I don't think twopicky iss that bad of a player.
And I think, yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (07:43):
He's a good player and he'll, he's got
the footwork and the ability tobe able to play that position
anyway.
It doesn't matter about hissize.
Carmichael Hunt wasn't that big.
He just returned it a frontrower when he first started.
Remember you can still have agood player at fullback even
doesn't matter on the size or.

Well, the two fallbacks that the
Warriors normally run there,they, they're the mood gainers.
Week in, week out.
Anyway, box that and

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (08:09):
You can still, you've still got the
wingers there, they've still gotbig sized wingers that they can
throw the ball to.
You don't have to take it backall the time.
only when he has to and if hecan join into that back line and
ball play a little bit andcreate space for himself and,
any, anything can happen.
I don't know, paying has, hasbeen talking about gonna 360

(08:29):
PGA's gonna 360, all theseplayers are gonna 360, but
nobody's made it anythingofficial yet.
And we won't know about it.
But how do we know that part ofthat's not driving up the price
with the NRL to come in and go,hang on, you stay here, we'll
give you the money that you wantyou can stay in our game.

well has still got contracts left,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (08:49):
Yeah, he, he's on the verge of the 10 year
bin.
Soga, PPEN, Hausen.
If he goes, he won't because hegot released.
So he does, he got released fromhis contract to, before he is
even done anything.
So whether he has a 12 monthsoff or whatever, and then signs
with 360, he won't have a 10year bin.
If they're off contract, they'renot getting a 10 year band.

(09:11):
It's only if they're still, ifthey breaking contracts to go.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2039 (09:14):
I don't think has, will stay.
I think I really think he'll go,he be a big name in that 360.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (09:25):
Yeah, well $3 million is nothing to sneeze
at.
And to be quite honest, if youwas asked to go and do your job
for three times the amount thatyou're already making to do
pretty much the same thing, youare not gonna turn it down

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11 (09:40):
that's the thing.
That's what you gotta remember.
$3 million a season

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (09:44):
Instead of a meal or season.

That's

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (09:47):
Yeah.
the most, the most that an NRLClub can offer.
'cause there was talks about theBears offering paying HU 2
million a season, but thegenerally with a salary cap, the
way that it is, the most thatthey can offer a player is about
1.5 million without taking uptoo much of the cap on one

(10:08):
player.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (10:09):
Yeah, but that, yeah, outta that$3
million soothing, there'sendorsement deals and everything
on top,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (10:16):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (10:17):
so

that's, that's 3 million tax free.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (10:20):
yeah.
And then you throw in somesponsorships or you'll get one
buddy one.
Freaking person from over there,he'll particularly wanna sponsor
him.
And yeah, I don't know.
a lot of money to turn down

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (10:37):
It is and that's why.
That's why the problem is,

that's the thing, a lot, a lot of the
radio and all that has beensaying, gotta think of his
family'cause he looks after allof his brothers and

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (10:48):
yeah.

with his mum being in jail and all
that.
So

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (10:51):
Yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-202 (10:51):
he has got a lotof responsibility.
But 3 million seasonI'd go overthere and play 3 million a
season to get smashed.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (10:58):
But what, interested in what's gonna
happen with all these playersthat are thinking about going
and their loyalties to theirinternational teams.
is there a Samoan Rugby Unionteam?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (11:12):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there is.

Yeah.
There would be.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (11:15):
I'm pretty sure there is.

zach-host13_1_11-11-202 (11:16):
they're running the risk of signing and
missing out on that Rugby LeagueWorld Cup next year.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (11:24):
Yeah.
But there's a Rugby Union WorldCup next year

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (11:27):
Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (11:27):
and someone paying has, who can play
for Samoa if Samoa havequalified.
'cause I think there's 20 teamsor something in their World Cup
where there's only 10 in ours.
is the World Cup really in RugbyLeague?
Is it really a draw card at all?
To be fair, I don't think it'sbig enough a draw card except
for those people that are rugbyleague through and through a

(11:48):
Cherry Evans orpeople thatwouldn't even consider going to
another sport that just wannaplay rugby league.
That probably their big thing.
But we'll always lose a lot ofplayers that have come from
Rugby Union with the draw ofthat rugby union thing.
'cause it's, it's moreinternational than what rugby
league is.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (12:05):
Yeah, there is a rugby union team.
It's Samoan team.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (12:09):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (12:10):
So

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (12:11):
The Wallabies will be in him from
playing for the Wallabiesbecause that's what they've
said, that they won't takeplayers that join in the
international and I can't see'emchanging it just'cause Payne
Huss swaps over.
But he can go and play forSamoa.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (12:28):
but I don't agree with that.
they should be able to play.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (12:32):
They're allowed to, 360 has said,
they'll be released for theirinternational obligations and
all that stuff.
It's the Rugby Australia, rugby,New Zealand, England, and all of
that that have, they're the onesthat have put the restrictions
saying they can't play for theircountry because they don't wanna
lose players from super rugby.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11- (12:51):
Remember Liv Golf done that sorry.
PGA, done that about Liv Golf.
And then look at it

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (12:56):
Yeah,

'Cause the rugby and the Rugby 360

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (13:00):
yeah,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (13:00):
are the exact same as that.
And now PGA turned around andnow Liv Golf people are playing
both.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (13:06):
Well, that's, that's what the thing
is.
They, they made the statementthat they were gonna be banned
from playing in the PGA, andthen when the players went,
well, fuck you.
Anyway, it, they changed theirtone on it.
And then they tried to combineand they tried to do all of this
stuff.
it might just work out because360 starts pretty much after the
NRL season.

(13:26):
It might work out that playerswill go over, play 360 for a
couple of games and then comeback, play rugby league through
the year.

360.
It starts in October.
I'm pretty sure it starts.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (13:36):
that's what I mean.
There'll be players coming offcontract that'll go play a
season in 360 and then come backand play rugby league just to
make a bit of money.
Okay.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025 (13:45):
I don't think they'd be allowed,
would they?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (13:46):
Well, if they come off contract at the
end of next year and they're afree agent, there's nothing
stopping'em from going andplaying the three months, four
months of 360 and then comingback to rugby league because.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (13:59):
you saying are they only seasoned
contracts?
Are they all Will, will they belike the NRL

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (14:03):
There'd probably be multi-year ones, but
they'll probably be able to getaway with playing, paying it
with, signing a one yearcontract.
It's just like when Ana comeback from Japanese rugby and
went straight into the Canberrateam midway through the season.

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (14:17):
So his contract finished in Japanese
rugby.
Just like when Sonny Bill comeback, he had to wait for his
contract to end in Japaneserugby, and then he came back and
played for the roosters when itended.

That's the thing.
if PO Hus does sign with him, Ithink that might open the
floodgates because

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (14:36):
It could,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-202 (14:37):
he is, he is pro, yeah.
He's the number one prop in theNRL

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (14:41):
yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (14:42):
Well, that's.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-202 (14:43):
if he leaves is, is the CEO really
gonna turn around and say, no,you are gone for 10 years now?
Or is he gonna turn around andsay, oh, come on, let's work
together with this.
it's up in the air.
No one knows until it actuallyhappens and

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (14:58):
the NRL will be having meetings with
Payne Hus and trying to keep himin the game.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (15:04):
Oh, they'll be doing everything they
can at

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (15:06):
Yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (15:06):
the moment.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (15:07):
But that's why they had that war chest a
couple of years ago.
And the thing is, peoplecomplain about third parties and
all of that'cause the playersget paid more and it's outside
the cap.
And it's not fair because someclubs get higher, third parties
than what other clubs do and allthat.
The whole third party thing wasput there when French rugby was
chasing Rugby league playersyears ago.

(15:29):
That's why that got put inplace.
So they could get unlimitedpotential of earning.
But you've also got the 360 sideof things is that they can say
that they live.
In The Bahamas and get it alltax free.
They don't have to pay tax init.
They get that full 303 million,it.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025 (15:46):
I think that's what it is.
Australian.
I think the contract is inAmerican Dollar and it only
works out two point somethingmillion, but because he's,
because he can get it as anAustralian side.
Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (15:59):
Yeah.
Well it's still gonna be 3million Australian.

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (16:03):
with the exchange rate and that, but I
don't think we need to worry.
We've had other codes come andpinch players before and done
all this stuff.
we lost Lau, we lost CarmichaelHunt, Matt Rogers, Wendell
Sailor, all these players havegone.
There's just been other playersthat come through and fill that
gap.
It's an opportunity for otherplayers that come through that

(16:24):
do wanna play our sport.
And sometimes in sport, that'swhat you've got.
They go and play.
They go do one thing tospringboard their career so they
can do the thing they actuallywant to do.
the same with NFL, you go andget drafted and then there's
players that got drafted in theNNFL and they didn't wanna go
play for their teams, but theywere also good at BA baseball

(16:44):
and got drafted in baseball aswell.
And then threaten that, oh, wellif you don't let me pick the
team I want to go to, I'll goplay baseball.
And then they end up coming tothe table, to get that player to
come and play.
it's just one of those thingsthat it'll work itself out and
we'll get a better picture of itonce players start signing and
what's happening.
And it's happened before whenthe Super League.

(17:05):
Was on for Rugby league.
They also had the same thing, itwas a world rugby series, which
is exactly the same as what 360is for rugby union that a heap
of rugby union players signed upfor.
And they didn't end up doing itat all.
it didn't end up going ahead orcoming to fruition.
It's just because it's got thissort money behind it that it's

(17:28):
more than likely to happen,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (17:30):
Yeah.
Well, I think it's veryinteresting anyway, on who will
go and who will stay, who'sgonna be tempted by the money.
But yeah, it, what would you do?
had the chance, take the

Yeah.
Take the money.
Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (17:45):
think it'd be because, because of the
person that I am, rugby league'salways been everything to me.
So if I'd done everything,played, origin, monogram, final,
done, everything that Hass hasdone, yeah, I'd probably take
the money because I've alreadydone everything I can in rugby
league.
But that's, that's what I'msaying.
I'm, rugby league through andthrough, I'm not, I'm not gonna

(18:08):
put my hand up and go and dothat, the money or not.
But in saying that, I've never,I've never been offered that
amount of money.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2 (18:15):
Brisbane, I think it was the CEOs coming
out and want, want him to reallythink about the legacy he could
leave

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (18:23):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (18:24):
and, and not just within the NRL, but
just his legacy that he'll leaveat Brisbane.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (18:30):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025 (18:31):
Right.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (18:31):
that's the exact same argument that PGA had
with the lib players.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (18:35):
So,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (18:35):
Liv's what players went and took the money
and now a lot of them arelooking to go back to the PGA
and not renewing with, with Liv.
'cause they've already madetheir money, endorsed it done
everything with it and they cango back to the PGA and go back
to the way things were.
PGA's probably been weakened inthe result of that.
'cause all the good players areplaying for Liv.

(18:57):
All the players that you wannawatch, your Cam Smiths, your the
Chabo and all that, they're allplaying in Liv Golf.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (19:03):
yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (19:04):
And I like watching the PGA, I'll sit there
and watch it, but.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (19:08):
yeah, I, I can flick backwards and
forwards the Gulf.
It's neither here nor there,like.
Some Ivy gets to a championshiphole, yeah, Augusta's probably a
bit different.
I can watch that.
on a little bit of a side note,the NRL draw gets released in
the next week.
Who do you reckon misses Magicround.

(19:30):
we know all the teams that havebeen announced for Vegas and
whatnot.
And who misses magic round thisyear?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (19:38):
Well, it won't be any Queensland teams.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (19:41):
Does it go the wooden spoons?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (19:44):
No, that's not how they do it.
'cause the Knights missed out onMagic Round a couple of years
ago.
They just rotate it through.
I think the Bulldogs have missedout on it.
They'll just, they'll just finda team and they miss out.

drag dragons were lost on, weren't
they?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (19:57):
Yeah.
I think the dragons were lasttime.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2039 (20:01):
I know,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (20:02):
the Tigers.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2039 (20:03):
I know the Tigers missed it a
couple year ago, but yeah,little side.
Bet

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (20:09):
No,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (20:09):
gonna The Raiders.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (20:10):
I reckon the Raiders will be there.
The Raiders are pretty exciting.
They've just signed, Kobe Blackfrom the Broncos.
He jumped ship after they signedpeasant.
So

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (20:19):
Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_20392 (20:19):
interesting as see how that goes.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (20:21):
that was always gonna happen.
He was told he was the next halfback

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (20:26):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (20:27):
they were never gonna keep him.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (20:29):
no, no.
Well,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (20:30):
yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (20:31):
they picked up a pretty promise and
mine Inez with some first gradeexperience, so you can't really,
and Duffy,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (20:38):
Oh, well, Duffy only signed the one
you contract.
He's up for release now.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (20:43):
yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (20:44):
He's a free agent.
So,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (20:46):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2039 (20:47):
I don't know.
I just think Raiders.
It's, yeah.
Winter to Vegas, you're

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (20:53):
Won't, they won't tap Panthers out.
No way.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (20:56):
Well, somebody's gotta miss out.
It

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (20:57):
Yeah.
someone's got, someone's gonnamiss out.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (21:00):
and they're

We'll see.

zach-host13_1_11-11-202 (21:02):
they're just gonna keep rotating right
through to the whole draw.
So it matter whether it'sPampers next

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (21:07):
the Broncos will never miss out.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (21:10):
they

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (21:10):
There's no way they could hold it at
Suncorp and then the Bronco'snot playing it.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (21:14):
but it doesn't matter because

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (21:16):
Yeah, I know,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (21:16):
it's

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (21:17):
that's only fair.
Yeah,

Well, well then the Dolphins can't
miss out.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (21:21):
that's what I just said.
It won't be any Queenslandteams.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (21:23):
But it, it's not a Broncos home
game.
The Broncos have not had a homegame at

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (21:29):
No, they're not allowed to.
'cause they're not allowed tomake money off it.
That's, that's the whole pointof it.
I think they're looking atmoving it around anyway.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (21:37):
it's still the home ground advantage,
whether they're in the away shedor not.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (21:41):
Yeah, I understand that.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025 (21:44):
there, there's no reason why they can't
be the team that misses out andthen they don't make no money
off it.
So, but yeah,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (21:51):
I think magic round should be moved
around.
You should have it in Brisbane.
Have it in Townsville, Have it.
Have it in Auckland.
Have it in Newcastle, Perth.

they did used to do it in Auckland.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (22:03):
That was the nines.

They'd done magic round over there,
didn't

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (22:06):
No, no, not magic round.
They only had the nines overthere and they wanted to try and
move that around as well.
And then it got canned.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (22:14):
they should take magic round over
there and leave the state oforigin right here in Australia.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (22:19):
you could do that too.
they can't have magic round inVegas.
Open the season.

too, too many teams going over there.
Too much,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (22:27):
Yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (22:27):
too much shit could go wrong.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (22:29):
would be an absolute political
nightmare.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (22:33):
they're looking at doing global round
anyway, so

Yeah, I don't,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (22:38):
that,

don't see that going ahead.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (22:39):
that separates and puts teams in all
different parts of the world.
Imagine taking every singleplayer to Vegas,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (22:48):
tell'em to behave.
It'll be right.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (22:50):
the the cheese and back together the
strip.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (22:55):
The storm played in Vegas yet

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (22:57):
No.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (22:58):
Maybe a year after

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (22:59):
the rabbit have though.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (23:01):
Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (23:02):
I really wanted to see a cheese monster
game against each other inVegas.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (23:06):
Yeah.

monster's gotta hang around.
I do that.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (23:09):
not see Vegas.
Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (23:11):
What did you, what did you think about
the new proposed kickoff rulewith the scoring team kicks off?

What a load of shit.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (23:19):
an NFL rule.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (23:20):
it

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2039 (23:22):
I think it could potentially bring
scorelines down a little bit.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (23:28):
Well, they did that in the Super League in
97.
They had it the other wayaround, and apparently people
reckon there'll still blowouts,so

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (23:36):
It's all gonna come down to ball
control.
if you

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (23:39):
yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-202 (23:40):
flogged because you keep dropping the
ball in, you earn 20, you'regonna get flogged.
But

That's right because they're gonna kick
the ball off to you.
They, they're on a high justscore on a go, a try.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (23:52):
yeah.

they race down, put you on your 10 or
ride you back into the in goals.
They get the ball back, theyscore again.
Oh, righto.
Let's kick it again to ya.
Let's do the same again.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (24:02):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (24:02):
I, I think it's gonna bring the
short kickoff right into play.
There's

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025 (24:08):
I fucking cannot stand the short
kickoff and short dropouts.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (24:13):
but I,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-202 (24:14):
It is a waste.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2039 (24:16):
I think it'll,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (24:17):
Do you know?
Do you know why they do itthough?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (24:20):
but it'll push it in that direction,
which will a lot of concussionsOn kickoffs.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (24:25):
Yeah.
I think that's what their ideabehind it is, is to try and make
it so that people are kickingshort

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (24:31):
Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (24:31):
that, for the concussion reason.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (24:33):
Teams will wanna win the ball back, so
they'll go short

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (24:37):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (24:38):
and.

Let's tackle football, not fucking
touch football.
that's what it's gonna end up ina couple years where you're not
gonna be able to tackle anyonewith all these stupid rules that
they're bringing in.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (24:48):
Yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025 (24:49):
I know, I know you got, I know
you're gonna look after playerwelfare and all that, but that's
they said there a year or soago.
Let's get rid of the kickoffaltogether.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (24:58):
Yeah.
Well that, that thing thathappened to Katua the other day,
it's a pretty scary thing.
And the NRL have interviewedeveryone to see what went on,
what the result of it is, andnow they just want to speak to
Katua once he's all better andstuff.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (25:14):
Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (25:15):
it's a scary thing, that concussion
thing.
'cause you see all these olderplayers that they're mentally
fucked because of head knocksand shit.
'cause it wasn't looked afterproperly,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (25:24):
Tell me the difference is between
Union and Rugby League, though,because we don't hear about all
these concussions in Union.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (25:31):
No, they, they do, they have, they have
concussion rules.
That's why when I watched it theother day, he got 10 in the bin
because he had a head knockbecause he went into the tackle
wrong and caused it himself,basically.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (25:44):
yeah,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (25:45):
that's why

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (25:46):
It's not spoken about.
We don't hear about it day in,day out.
we hear about it in NRL

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (25:52):
Well, to be perfectly honest, you don't
hear fucking anything aboutrugby union other than they want
their league players back.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (25:58):
and Australia really suck

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (26:01):
Oh.
I wouldn't say that they reallysuck, but,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (26:04):
wall of Wallabies.
were in a little bit of a highthere a couple of months ago,
and they're right back down inthe cellar.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (26:13):
yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-202 (26:14):
They'll get beat again this weekend.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (26:16):
Yeah.
But.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-202 (26:17):
Do they play this weekend island,
isn't it?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (26:19):
Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (26:20):
Yeah, I'll probably all are pretty good.

Yeah, that's right.
That's what I probably will do.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (26:26):
So

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (26:26):
Yeah,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2039 (26:27):
I just,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (26:28):
but to answer your thing, ho, the
reason why they do the shortdropouts all the time is because
it's easier for teams to defendon their line if they, if
they're given back possession,there's a chance you can get the
possession.
And also your team's not running45 meters, 50 meters down the
field and tying, it's to keepyour own fatigue.

(26:49):
That's why they do the shortkickoffs.
'cause the end result is abetter payout if they get the
ball back or if they don't getthe ball back that, there's more
chance of a mistake and stuffThat's why they do it all the
time.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (27:03):
do you go with a kickoff the union
though?
have that, the initial kickoff,whatever, off the tee, you can
kick it long or short.
You make your mind up

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (27:13):
Uh,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (27:14):
after points you go to a drop kick.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (27:18):
yeah,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025 (27:19):
'cause then it will, will bring that
short drop.
That short kick off.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (27:26):
well in rugby union, the reason that
they go short is because it'sall about territory.
So,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (27:32):
right

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (27:33):
it's where rugby league, you want to try
and put pressure on theopposition in their half and pin
'em down in their half, rugbyunion, it's a lot easier to get
outta your own half'cause youcan kick the ball out inside the
22.
You can kick it out on the fulland get a line out, down the,
down the,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (27:51):
Pete.
You can do it.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (27:52):
where you are, a chance to getting the
ball back anyway.
Hey, the

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (27:55):
it in rugby league too.
And I'm actually quite surprisedI haven't seen someone smart
enough to pick up on it yet.
Off a kickoff?
Yes.
Straight off a kickoff.
You kick off long you'll get asmart five, eight or half back
that receives the ball and thatdefensive line, that fullback's
coming with him.

(28:16):
With that line, you just look upand go, bang 2040.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (28:21):
if you fuck it up, you don't wanna lose
possession.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (28:24):
The good old Ohio Mary.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (28:25):
Well, we haven't seen it.
There's been plenty of timeswhere teams could have used it,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (28:32):
yeah,

what a union does.
Union does that.
Sometimes

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (28:36):
yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (28:36):
the ball kicks, the ball gets, get
the ball kicked to him.
Then they go for fieldadvantage.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (28:41):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (28:42):
Uh, you, you take I think it was a
Knights Cowboys game this year,or it might've been the final
last year.
Cowboys scored late to take thelead.
When the knights received it,they could've done it, got back
into the 40, brings two pointfield golf straight in the
plate.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (28:58):
To be fair, I don't think Knights have
anybody that could kick from 40meters.

zach-host13_1_11-11-20 (29:03):
Probably not while PGA's out, but, what I
mean though, you 2040 off thekickoff.
Goes out on the 30, you play theball, bang 40 meter field goal,
straight off the bat, tie thegame up, or win the game.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (29:18):
Yeah.
Well, daily, cherry Evans knowsthat you can, rather than taking
a tap of the 20, you can justkick it out and you get the ball
back where it goes out.
He's the only one that does thatevery now and then, and he's the
only one that they cover on todo it.
But there'd be just one of thosetactic, the coaches.
The coaches look at these thingsand it all comes down to risk.

(29:41):
they try to minimize risk andthat's what they do.
That's why Adam O'Brien had theKnights not attacking the ball
and stuff like that was becauseit was too high risk that they'd
cause a.
Or give a penalty to get downthe other thing.
And it's all about consistencyand completions and stuff like
that.
That's what he was really bigon.
I don't agree with it.
Yeah.
Well I don't agree with it'causeI think that you still need to

(30:04):
challenge for the ball, but

zach-host13_1_11-11-202 (30:06):
Anyway, I'm gonna the Cowboys and we're
gonna put this play in motion.
I might get a gig as a coach upthere.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (30:16):
yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (30:16):
Kick, kick, return coach.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (30:18):
So if he is, um,'cause as everyone I know
Matty Johns has bought a stakein the Gold Coast.
Titans, have views beenfollowing it at all or just kind
of, I.

Yeah.
Oh look, I've seen it.
I haven't really looked too farinto it.
'cause him and Gordon have bothbought stakes into it, haven't
they?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (30:39):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, Gordon was already a, arepresentative for the Titans or
whatever it is.
He already had a spot on theTitans and he's convinced Matt
to, or the board's convincedMatt to buy a stake in it.
So he is got a small part of it,but he involvement is, he sees
potential on the Gold Coast inthe juniors and he wants to try

(31:01):
and convince the juniors to tryand stay and play for the Gold
Coast and wanna play for theTitans, which is a very mirrored
thing to what Gus did atPenrith, wanting those players
to stay and play for thePanthers and trying to build
through the junior system.
And I think it's a very, verysmart play for the Titans to be

(31:21):
one looking into juniors andtrying to make them.
Wanna play for him like that.
'cause Payne Huss was from theCentral Coast catchment area.
He's from New South Wales, butin the catchment area, I played
juniors in the Titans area.
So they lost players Payne Hussand all that to the Broncos.
So they're just trying to, buildtheir brand But I think it's a

(31:42):
smart way to go about it ratherthan, throwing$2 million at this
player and that player and hopeit works out they've done in the
past with Jared Hayne, Idris,Tino Tino's worked out well
'cause Tino's a really goodplayer and he plays his Hardy
out every week.
But obviously he's had enough ofthat as well.
You need more players aroundthem.

(32:02):
Those sort of players that wantto be there and are passionate
about playing for the Titans, Isuppose.
And I think it's a good way togo and a good way to look at it,
to be honest.

Yeah, there's no point being the only
player on the team putting yourright part on the line there
every game and no one elsewanting to go with you.
I think that's why Tino's hadenough of it.
Like

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (32:23):
Yeah, but some of that could come down to
coaching and it's, there's nosolid thing for it.
Like when do you know that it'sthe coach that's the problem.
And when do you know that it'sthe players that are the
problem?

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (32:34):
the thing is the coach ain't the one
out on the field making the,dropping the ball or giving the
penalties away and all that.
Yeah, he coaches them, but.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (32:44):
Yeah.

the, that's the first thing they look
at.
They look at the coach and theygo, right, let's sack the coach.
The, the nights have lost gamesin a row.
Let's get rid of the coach.
It's not the coach that's doingthe wrong on the field.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (32:57):
No.

he's trained them every day during
the week and they've doneexactly what he is told'em to
do.
It's just what happens on gameday

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (33:07):
Yeah.
And that's just, that's justpart of sport in general.
And the way that it goes, it'sthe, it's a deadly thing to,
it'd be the worst thing being acoach or something like that.
And you come up with a thing,you see progress, you see
everything growing, but ithasn't quite transformed into
the field, And then your a is onthe line because this thing that
you are trying to work at.

(33:27):
And then the worst thing you cando is probably change your
formula on the run to try and,change things.

Well, that's thing, you look at the
blues team, right?
They always sack the cage,change the cage.
Those blues players are the bestplayers out of each of those
teams, each team they've come

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (33:42):
yeah.
I think at that level, it comesdown to game plans and stuff
like that.
And also motivation, because Ican't ignore.
How much better of a team theywere with magic charge compared
to low they were, they'll lockapples and oranges this year
compared to last year,

What's the, what's the rumor with magic
at the moment, actually?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (33:59):
England are chasing you?

that mean he has to leave Broncos.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (34:03):
No, not if, the only reason that
Australia chooses a standalonecoach and the blues and that
choose a coach that doesn't havean NRL team is because the nr,
the Australian Rugby Leaguedecided that a few years ago.
I remember Wayne Bennett wasCoach of England and he was
still coaching the OSE andorphans.

(34:24):
Yeah, it's the same thing.
They, they, they're happy for,for him to do it and have his
NRL contract as well.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (34:30):
That that'll ultimately come down
under the club though.
If Brisbane want him to justconcentrate on Brisbane,
especially with next year beinga World Cup year,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (34:39):
Yeah.
But at the same time, I don'tthink Brisbane are gonna be
wanting to get rid of Mag atthis point.
he's probably, he's probably,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (34:47):
get

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (34:48):
yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (34:48):
but they're, they might want him to
concentrate on Brisbane only,not worrying about England.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (34:54):
Yeah.
it, it'll come down to Mag,really

look, I, I think Brisbane are, are
gonna be in a bit of trouble.
Next season.
Really I, I think I read thereearlier this week that they
reckon Reynolds is in doubt atall next season.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (35:11):
yeah, you got pea

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (35:12):
me and,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (35:13):
the following year, but you've still
got man play six.
Hunter will just go to seven and

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (35:20):
yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (35:20):
still got

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (35:21):
No.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025 (35:21):
You've still got Billy Walters.
Corey Pake signed on for nextyear.
So he'll just start at nine.
I don't think they'll be thatfar away.
Alright.
And you only need Reynolds, evenif he's not a hundred percent
fit.
You play Reynolds at 14.
You get into a tight game, throwhim out there for the last 20

(35:43):
minutes just to manage thatgame.
Get Brisbane over the line.

Yeah, I suppose.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (35:48):
And a lot of those games that they won
last year was without Reynoldsas well,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (35:52):
Yeah,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (35:53):
so they're not, they've got enough halves
and that and experience in thehalves.
It'll be all about, this seasonwill be just all about bringing
Pez through to take over andtake control.
I think,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (36:03):
well he won't be coming through
because he'll be a parramatter.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (36:06):
oh, sorry.
Yeah,

still got another season.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (36:10):
So,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (36:10):
Forgot about that.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (36:11):
yeah.
But they've still got, yeah,they've got enough.
Billy Walters could potentiallygo to seven when he's fit.
Yeah, if, I don't know whetherthat Blake Moser can play six or
seven.
But is

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (36:28):
I think he's just a hooker,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (36:29):
roll?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (36:30):
I think.
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (36:32):
But they, they might very well sign
on Tom Duffy again to, as abackup for Reynolds for next
year.
So if Reynolds goes down, theyhaven't, he out and out half so
he can still sign him cheap.
'cause he's only played three orfour first grade games.
So,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (36:52):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (36:53):
but yeah, especially.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (36:55):
I, I still think Brisbane are around that
top four again next year.
It just might

Yeah,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (37:00):
on has, if has signs for 360 and doesn't
play next year.
I think that's gonna hurt him alot because he's a big loss in
that middle and, they'llstruggle for go forward without
him.
I think,

that's the thing.
If, if he turns around and says,right, I'm going to 360, say
what's today?
Tuesday.
if he turns around and saysright on 360 and signs contract
on Thursday, is that him donefor next season?
He can't play in next season atall.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (37:28):
tech

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (37:29):
I can't see him allowing him to play if
they wanna be in players for 10years for signing the contract
to start with.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (37:34):
if it technically his contract
doesn't start till November nextyear when R 360 starts.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (37:41):
Yeah, no, I understand that.
But it'd be a bit hypocriticalto let him play out his season
then go.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (37:46):
Well, I was talking with James about
that earlier if he is going, hewill have something in that new
contract to state that nothingis to be released.
he can play one last season orhe releases it and he goes to
Japanese rugby, gets

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (38:05):
Yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-202 (38:06):
it

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (38:06):
gets

ready.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (38:07):
bit of experience, into that 360
inaugural season, kills it.
three or four years over there,makes 15 mil retires back in
Samoa.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (38:19):
Yeah.

Nah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (38:20):
He won't go to Samoa.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-202 (38:22):
Go back to wood.
Go back to Woodbury where hegrew up.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (38:25):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (38:26):
go go and buy the Woodbury field
and upgrade.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (38:30):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (38:31):
You know, he would have clauses.
Knowing that the profile he isgot within the NRL, he wouldn't
want to jeopardize that.
If 360 happened to not go aheador something happens, he doesn't
wanna run the risk of losing hiscontract.
He comes out during the seasonnext year and says, I'm going,

(38:53):
that's a different story.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (38:54):
So he is, gonna find out who's gonna be
broadcasting 360 and actuallywatch the first week.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-202 (39:01):
I, I'm gonna watch it.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2039 (39:03):
I reckon if we start saving now
and we just jump on a plane, wego over there, open a game
November next year.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (39:10):
If we can start getting our bets right,
instead of getting them wrong,we might be there fucking first
class, but at the moment, we'regonna have to work.
When we get over there, showsome skin.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (39:19):
well least it'll be tax free money.
Anyway, the EPL.
What happened to Liverpool,Jason,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (39:27):
Who's Liverpool?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (39:29):
so you know exactly who Liverpool
is?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (39:32):
I was actually having a look before.
They're not even in the top fiveanymore.

zach-host13_1_11-11-202 (39:35):
They're hardly in the EPL anymore, let's

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (39:39):
don, I,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (39:40):
They, they are.
I think they're missing a coupleplayers, but they are in a world
of hurt.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (39:46):
I haven't really looked into it.
They've been going along prettywell.
I've been paying more attentionto the other Ravens and going
and getting players back and,trying to calculate if we can
make a wild card thing.
So,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (39:57):
Well, James actually said to me before
to ask you where Liverpool is,'cause United's above him.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (40:05):
yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (40:06):
he's a little bit chirpy this season
with United sort of sniffingaround that top five spot.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (40:12):
It'd only be because the Broncos are, are
up one The grand final.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (40:17):
he, he's words were Broncos one now
United's above Liverpool and FCare above the Jets.
So he, he's having a good go atit.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (40:29):
Yeah.
Yep.

zach-host13_1_11-11-202 (40:30):
Anyway, he is the first for everything.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (40:33):
Yeah, there he is.
So

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (40:35):
we've got, we've gotta find you an EPL
team to follow whoever.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (40:39):
he probably has that.
He just doesn't tell us

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (40:41):
No, I wouldn't have a clue.
I would not have a clue.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (40:45):
Burn

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (40:46):
Well,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (40:46):
So big.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (40:47):
Jo Johnson landed on Liverpool
because something to do with theChampions League.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (40:53):
No,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (40:53):
They were winning at some point.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (40:56):
no, I wasn't the Champions League, it
was the FA Cup.
I was watching an FA Cup gameand they put in a good effort
and I'm like, they're a fucking,they're my sort of team.
So I started following'em and Iwatched Steven Gerard like his
can do attitude.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (41:10):
Yeah.
And then he cried when hetripped over.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (41:13):
I don't remember seeing him fall.
I'm pretty sure he was pushed.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (41:16):
Uh, anyway, city three n Wind over
Liverpool.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (41:21):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (41:22):
And drop points.
They were in the our bets lastweek.
Um, yeah.
To all draw Sunderland who werequite sneaky this year.
They're just, just cruisingalong, sitting forth.
Um, whether they can hold thepace and be there at the end of
the year or not.
They're just, they're one ofthem teams.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (41:43):
No, I dunno.
I was having a look before and Iwas showing seeing who could
possibly win it and you know,arsenal sitting pretty good
city.
Sitting pretty good.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (41:53):
yeah, Arsenal's been sitting pretty
good for the last three yearsand they fall off right when it
matters.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (41:59):
Yeah,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (42:00):
The EPL is not one in November and I
had this discussion with Smittythe other night was a bit chirp
of Arsenal sitting on top and,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (42:09):
I forgot about that.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (42:10):
Yeah.
Well, I said to him, when, whenwas the last time that the, EPL
was won?
In November, his response was,and Citi won the

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (42:20):
The funny thing is the EPL is such a long
season.
It doesn't finish until whatmay.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (42:27):
mark.
Yeah, there's, it's a, 38 roundseason then plus you throw in
all your FA cup games,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (42:36):
Yeah,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025 (42:37):
league games, Europa League, there's,
it just, I love it.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (42:42):
yeah, it, it is good.
And it, going off the EPLs werehigh quality and all of that,
but playing all those championsleague games, roper and all
that, takes a little bit awayfrom those teams.
And, it sort of does keep a bitcloser of a competition in a
way, but,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (42:59):
Well,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (42:59):
it still, it's, it's still very, very big
gap between regulation and thetop teams.

zach-host13_1_11-11-202 (43:07):
Between the relegation teams.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (43:09):
Yeah.
Well, the teams that are at thebottom of the ladder and the
teams at the top of the ladder,there's a massive gap.

zach-host13_1_11-11-20 (43:14):
Speaking of the relegation teams, the
forest

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (43:18):
Yeah.
Oh hey.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (43:20):
out in the forest get some points?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (43:22):
Yeah, they're out of relegation.
Are they?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (43:25):
Uh, nah.
They're still thereabouts.
I think they, but they,Hampton's only got two points.
I think the Forester now got 10.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (43:35):
I hope forests get relegated because
they did our, our boy ang bad.
They did him dirty.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (43:41):
Well, an is Yeah.
Already sniffing around a fewother jobs.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (43:47):
Yeah.
Well, I think the, I think thebig bets on, him going back to
Celtics, Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (43:52):
Yeah, he did well at Celtic.
I still don't know why Tottenhamlet him go.
yeah, he didn't win that but hequalified Champions League
again, still sitting fifth, butIan set that team up, got'em
back to where they, they neededto be

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (44:11):
just from the outside looking in.
That's been, other than Celticwhere he left on his own accord,
that's been pretty well, thestory of an Andrew's career.
He gets far with teams and thenhe gets booted.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (44:24):
it's that second year syndrome.
He first year, he doesn't goreal well and he

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (44:29):
Yeah,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (44:30):
the following year.
And what he did with Tottenham.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (44:34):
yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (44:35):
it with Celtic.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (44:36):
I don't think that they should have got
rid of him either, but maybethere's just more to it than on
field stuff.
It might be off, off fieldstuff.
You know when you see coachesand players jumping teams as
often as what they do normally,there's a reasoning behind it,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (44:50):
Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (44:51):
no matter how good they are.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (44:52):
the forest have now had two winds
though.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (44:55):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025 (44:56):
Couple of draws.
They're sitting on nine points.
Wolves, they're sitting on two.
They're the bottom.
Then the forest westham andBurnley both on 10 leads in
Fulham on 11 Newcastle on 12.
And forests managed to getanother win this next round.

(45:17):
They're outta allegation zone.
Do they beat Liverpool though?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (45:22):
No.
Nah, won't happen.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2 (45:24):
Liverpool aren't playing well enough to be
for me to be convinced.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (45:29):
That's a pretty pink iPad there.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-202 (45:32):
It is.
Yes.
No, I've been, I've beenGoogling teams.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (45:36):
Google and teams.
Are you gonna support a team

yeah, yeah.
the hot spurs.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (45:43):
tighten?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (45:44):
Oh,

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (45:45):
We just said to.

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (45:47):
They've done an inch dirty, and you are
just gonna jump on top of them.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (45:51):
Who the fuck's Ang?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (45:52):
Ian's Pasta Loo

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (45:54):
The greatest,

dunno.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (45:55):
the greatest football coach that
Australia's ever seen.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-202 (45:58):
If he was so good, why is he not
there now?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (46:01):
We don't know.
That's what we're arguing about.

Yeah.
No, that's who I'm going for.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (46:06):
dear.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (46:07):
Oh,

Because What was that, what was that
other team?
Oh, I think it was a coupleyears ago there where they've,
they just came out of nowhereand won the whole

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (46:16):
Lester Titty.

Yeah,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (46:18):
Yeah.
They, they've gone back to wherethey, they've gone back to where
they came from.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025 (46:23):
I was about to say, couldn't find
that.

zach-host13_1_11-11-202 (46:26):
they're in the championship,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (46:28):
Do you know what the worst bit about
being a Tottenham supporter is

Well,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (46:32):
your parents, you're a Tottenham
supporter, so good luck.

well

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (46:35):
yeah.
But

team do you support?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (46:37):
Liverpool.

zach-host13_1_11-11-20 (46:38):
wouldn't even know who Tottenham is,
would they?

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (46:41):
The Liverpool sitting eight.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (46:43):
It'll be right.
It's a long season

zach-host13_1_11-11-2 (46:45):
Liverpool are the reigning champions,
though.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (46:48):
and it's a long season

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (46:50):
That

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (46:50):
will come.
Good.

zach-host13_1_11-11- (46:51):
Liverpool,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (46:52):
We'll be all right.

zach-host13_1_11-11- (46:53):
Liverpool.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (46:55):
Zach, can you get around AFL's world card
round next year?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2039 (47:00):
I don't, I don't really know.
I'm not that big of a A FLsupporter.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (47:06):
you don't have to be.
A FL and NRL pretty much mirroreach other with final system.
It's just they've announced thatthey're gonna do it, and I am
almost a hundred percent surethat once we get the bears.
The NRL will follow suit becauseit's the same as what the A FL
said.
That's an extra week of finals.
That's extra views.
That's an extra week of gamesfor teams and to make, it's a

(47:28):
money grab.
Basically.
They're trying to sell it off asit's more for the fans to see,
but, and basically if you're inthat,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2039 (47:36):
I don't

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (47:37):
you

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (47:37):
it

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (47:37):
ninth, 10th, if you're in that ninth or
10th position, you are notreally, you wouldn't think that
you'd have a shot at winninganyway.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (47:46):
Yeah.
But

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (47:47):
Like

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (47:47):
the way I look at it is.
The grand final's never been wonfrom through eight

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (47:55):
Yeah,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (47:55):
of what makes any supporter think
that a wild card, ninth or 10thposition's gonna win it.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (48:04):
I know that, but

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (48:05):
say that it's an extra game for the
fans to watch.
they, they complain about howlong the season is now.
they've either gotta shortenthat season up, which is taking
games away from the fans.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (48:18):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (48:19):
is it lengthening it

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (48:20):
for those teams playing in that wild card
round, they play an extra week,but the, the top six teams will
get a week off?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (48:27):
from the

not, not really because it doesn't
first and second get a week offanyway,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (48:32):
No, no.
They play the first week of thefinals as it is now.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (48:36):
win.
Now you get.
yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (48:38):
they'll have the, they're gonna have
wild card round, which will be10th versus seventh,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (48:45):
the

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (48:46):
and then ninth will play eighth, and the
winners outta them play fifthand sixth,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (48:51):
the only

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (48:51):
and then they start the finals like it
normally is.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (48:55):
The

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-202 (48:55):
so that was Man, manly and Dolphins
this year,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (48:58):
Yeah.
So they would've played againstwho come eighth?

roosters.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (49:03):
Yeah.
They would've played the, theywould've played the roosters
and,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (49:06):
Pen.
No pen.
In fifth.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (49:08):
no, they were on four, no.

were four.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (49:10):
Fifth.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-20 (49:11):
No, no, they were six Panthers.
'cause

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (49:13):
Yeah.

fifth.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (49:14):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (49:15):
Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (49:16):
Sharks.
I.

think Sharks.

zach-host13_1_11-11-202 (49:18):
Sharks.

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (49:19):
so they would've had another week to
play before the actual finalsstarted, which the A FL have a
buyer before their final series.
But they'll probably move thatby, next year they might move it
before the grand final, so theydon't have the problem that they
had last year with theconcussion rules and stuff like
that, which our game could havethe same problem because if

(49:39):
someone gets concussed as a 10down stand down period from a
concussion the week before andmisses out on a grand final,
there'll be a heap of blow upabout it because they don't have
that week off the week before.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (49:52):
it's all right.
If you're Samoan, you're allowedto go out and play with when you
can.
Concuss,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (49:56):
Yeah.
Or that's what I neverunderstood about that.
That was a grade one watchingit.
But in a game of NRL, if youhave a hit like that, you can't
play for 10 days.
He played 30 minutes later.
Like it doesn't make sense tome.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (50:10):
back to the, the world card in top
six getting a break.
The one benefit I see from it.
My super coach team won't fallapart there being so many
players getting rested the lasttwo weeks, they're gonna get the
first week of the finals off.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (50:31):
Yeah.
Well that's the other argument.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2039 (50:33):
I can get around it.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (50:35):
That's the, that's the other thing that
it, it promotes as well.
It means that teams will playtheir best teams and they won't
substitute'em off for that lastor rest players in that last
week.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (50:46):
But I, as for, yeah, I still don't
think that it's gonna be thatmuch of a benefit in all
honesty.
'cause fans, you've even gottashorten that regular season up.
cause this season can't go anylonger than October long
weekend.
It's too hot.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (51:07):
No, they'll just start it earlier.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (51:09):
it's still too hot.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (51:11):
I'm all for the,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (51:12):
The game still can't be played early
because of daylight savings andeverything the first few weeks.
So how do you start the seasonearlier when in preseason we're
having 20 minute quarters'causeit's too hot.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (51:27):
yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025 (51:28):
Unless they're talking that that round
will start the year after thebears come in.
you've got the first game twoweeks before the season you're
overseas where it's cooler.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (51:44):
Yeah, it, it could work that way.
I never thought of that.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (51:48):
So

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (51:49):
I'm all, I'm all for the wild card format
when we get to 20 teams, becausethen that's still half the
competition are eligible to playin the finals just like I was
when there were 16 teams.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (51:59):
yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (52:00):
That's it.
That's the only reason that I'mall for it because if you can,
if you manage to be in the tophalf of your competition, you
should be able to play finals.
I think.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (52:09):
Yeah.
Well I know you go to the wallcard round.
Do you go down that path ofconferences?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (52:17):
Well, I have a feeling that NRL will
eventually will be split intoconferences.
I just don't think I'm gonnalike the way that they do it,
because when they do theconferences, I want'em to have a
draw out of a barrel every weekfor which teams are in what
conference.
So, any team could play any teamin the Green final.
Really, I'm all for that.
I don't want, all right.
You're in this conferencepermanently and then you're in

(52:38):
this conference permanently.
The NFL it works well becausethere were two different
competitions that joinedtogether.
If they had have had a RL andSuper League and joined them
back together Work as a SuperBowl.
'cause you essentially have twoseparate competitions run under
one banner that meet each otherin the final, which is pretty

(52:59):
much what the NFL is, exceptit's a schedule.
They play certain teams everythree years or something But

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (53:05):
go to a rotating conference where
your top 10 teams are in sort ofa conference.
10 teams are in a B top fivefrom each meet and do a final
series.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (53:21):
yeah,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (53:22):
And

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (53:23):
I could get

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (53:23):
then when.
Then when you, at the end ofeverything, you have your Super
Bowl,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (53:29):
Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_20 (53:29):
and then you all your points for all
your points against yourcomplete ladder points
determines final ladder.
And then you go top 10 aconference, bottom 10 B
conference.
Start again the followingseason.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (53:47):
Yeah, something I still like the lotto
draw, just randomly picking.
Just go, all right.
A first name, first name comesout.
You go that side.
You can make an event around itand stuff just you can with a
draft and all of that sort ofstuff.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_ (54:00):
yeah, but you can't, you have those
Darby, the Brisbane Cowboys,Darby, your Queensland Darby,
they've still gotta happen

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (54:10):
No, no.
still think all those gamesshould play.
I just think they should playeach other once.
I don't think they should playeach other twice.
I don't think there's any needto play each other twice,
because it's not fair if you'replaying some teams twice and
other teams once, if you playeach other once, that's the
fairest that you're gonna getat.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (54:29):
when you get the 20

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (54:30):
shortens the season up to 19 rounds from
20 teams.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (54:34):
when you get the 20 teams, that's
fine.
But the moment when you gotbuyers and all the others.
The only other reason is you goto the, everyone plays once, you
can have a standalone round inthe middle of the season.
gets the week off,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (54:52):
Yeah, you could have,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (54:54):
or

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (54:54):
could have,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_2 (54:55):
that international weekend.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 (54:57):
yeah.
that's what I think you shoulddo anyway.
I think you should play eachother once it Dr.
It dramatically shortens it upand then work out and have a
break in the middle for Originand a Pacific Cup with New
Zealand, Samoa and Tonga orsomething that.
I think you should have yourinternational break.
Have some, have Samoa and Tongaplay each other every year.

(55:21):
Have New Zealand Play Englandevery year, something that.
But, have origin on, then itdoesn't affect the teams as
much, and you can get rid of thebuyers altogether.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203 (55:31):
If you're gonna have that
international period where thoseteams play, you still would have
Australia play some point.
You can't just have every othercountry play

Speaker (55:45):
Boys got anything for games this week?

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Yeah, I had the PS four up and running for a little
bit.
Played a bit of snow runner, um,

Speaker (55:54):
snow Runner or Mud Runner.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
I was gonna get Snow Runner Mud Runner first.

Speaker (55:59):
I like Snow Runner better than Mud Runner.
It's a bit more, I just likedit.
I like those sort of simulatorgame things like farming
simulator and constructionsimulator in that you're gonna
get around American TruckSimulator when it comes to the
PS five.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
I'll give it a go.
I probably won't do the wholesteering wheel and everything

Speaker (56:19):
in a real truck.
It could be fun.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
No,

Speaker (56:23):
I guess I'd use it if I got a steering wheel for Project
Motorsport.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Yeah, if you had it for that

Speaker (56:28):
motor racing, whatever it is.
I went and got a camera thisweek, so I would do some
streaming.
Do it through the podcast to seeif we can entice people to come
listen to the podcast.
Looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Yeah, just, just leave your face out of it.
Use the background.

Speaker (56:43):
I'm just looking into it.
I'm gonna see whether or not Iwant to or don't want to stream
some battlefield that I'vemanaged to put 60 hours into
this week.
You've jumped on the Battlefieldsix week as well, Zach, or did
you?
How'd you find

Speaker 3 (56:54):
it?
Yeah, for about five hours,

Speaker (56:56):
I haven't had much better to do.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
Maybe you should do a bit of overtime shifts so that
you can afford all these games.

Speaker (57:03):
Well, hopefully we'll get really popular and people
will just start sending us gamesto test for'em.
Maybe.
Maybe that'll,

Speaker 3 (57:11):
well, if anyone wants to throw a PS five Hoover's way,
you will take one, a couple ofgaming computers.
I'll gladly have one.
Yeah.
Don't know how I'll go settingit up in the van while I'm
living away from work, but I'lljust,

Speaker (57:27):
I'm sure you'll find a way.
I,

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Gary, there's

Speaker (57:29):
a will, there's a

Speaker 3 (57:30):
way.
I guarantee I will find a way

Speaker (57:33):
whether there's a will, there's a way.
Isn't your middle name William?

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Nah.

Speaker (57:37):
Oh, well there's no way.
That was so bad, so bad.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
You gotta leave that in.
You gotta

Speaker (57:43):
leave it.
You're just looking at me likean idiot.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Yeah.
Well,

Speaker (57:46):
I'm not leaving that in no way.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 (57:47):
leave it in and,

Speaker 3 (57:48):
and this is why your wife folds you up like a
pretzel.

Speaker (57:53):
That never happened.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
What was that?
Don't treat me of a good time.

Speaker (57:58):
Yeah, we got a recommendation for a game this
week and I went and gave it agame Fiske that I work with.
He listens to every episode.
Thanks for listening and thanksto everybody else that has been
supporting and listening to usfor all 10 of our episodes that
we've had so far, or 11 episodesin reality, but 10 normal
episodes.

(58:19):
Thanks for all your support andfollowing us and like and share.
Our pages and Spotify andwherever you get your podcast
from.
Fiske, he recommendedsatisfactory to me.
It come out on the PS five theother day.
It's been on computer for awhile.
I've seen videos of it, but Ihaven't watched it from how it
starts off or anything likethat.

(58:39):
And it didn't really interest mebecause it was just a big
factory thing and I didn'tunderstand it, but I went and
had a look at it and it's just acraft build, collect resources
and all that stuff, just likeyou're doing.
Arc or any of those survivalgames that you play, but you're
setting up a production line andsetting up a factory on the
planet and sending stuff back tothe mothership or something if

(59:03):
you like.
Those sort of games.
I actually really enjoyed it.
I put a few hours into that thisweek too.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Really?
Did do not much at all thisweekend or this block off?
'cause you manage to clock up 50odd hours on battlefield.

Speaker (59:18):
50 hours has been over three weeks.
It hasn't just been thisweekend.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Mm.
Yeah.
Well, you, you,

Speaker (59:26):
I didn't play it the whole time.
I've been playing Madden.
I've been playing satisfactory.
I had other games that I wasplaying.
Yeah.
I didn't get the 60 hours onBattlefield just this weekend.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
But you played more hours of gaming in this block
off than what you did.
Hours of work on your lastblock.

Speaker (59:44):
No,

Speaker 3 (59:45):
not

Speaker (59:45):
necessarily.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
That's what I'm hearing.
No,

Speaker (59:48):
I think you're wrong.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Am I though?

Speaker (59:51):
No,

Speaker 3 (59:52):
I I You really need to do a little bit more work.

Speaker (59:57):
What have you been doing at work, Zach?

Speaker 3 (59:59):
I have an apprentice working for me.
I got giving him some gooddirections on what not to do and
getting him home safe everyafternoon, shaping the future.

Speaker (01:00:11):
That's not what you told me you were doing earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
No, no.
Earlier today I was right in theshit.
Quite literally.

Speaker (01:00:20):
I was even talking about that for US Mobile.
You've been getting around that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Yeah.
That was a little bit different,and I did get around a little
bit of it, but that doesn'tcount.
I was sitting on top of astockpile at that stage.

Speaker (01:00:36):
Yeah.
How did you find it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
One improvement that I'll make personally for myself
is I'll probably get acontroller that my phone clips
into so that I can see the fullscreen.

Speaker (01:00:51):
Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
That's just those type of, and you play mobile
games, it's, that's always adrama.
I do really enjoy rust and Ithought I'd sign up for that
trial and give it a go.
So we'll see how that pans outover the next few weeks anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Yeah, you might have to hit someone up that's got a
3D printer to make you up alittle controller.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
I've actually got a 3D printer.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
That's what I'll say.

Speaker (01:01:21):
So I didn't think it was yours.
I thought it was Rogan's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Well, he's had it for a bit over 12 months and he
doesn't have a great deal ofinterest in it anymore.
May make its way into my officeand I'll make the incoherent
podcast trophy for when I.
Whoop your asses at golf.

Speaker (01:01:40):
I'm gonna buy a trophy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Will it be as cool as mine now?
My blood, sweat

Speaker (01:01:46):
and tears.
We'll see.
You won't put anything into it.
You just fuck.
Anyway.
Oh God.
Where are you at with yourPlayStation five, Hoover.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Still still waiting.
Still

Speaker (01:01:58):
Still waiting.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Yes.
There.
PS four in it at the moment.

Speaker (01:02:03):
That's all right.
There's still PS four games youcan play online with like

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
rust.

Speaker (01:02:07):
Now that I'm streaming, I can show everybody why I hate
rust and yeah, it frustrates me

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
still.

Speaker (01:02:15):
So I might put about 30 minutes into that one and go
back to the battlefield.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
No.
Well, you've got survival,evolve.
Play a bit of arc.

Speaker (01:02:24):
Yeah, we can do that.
I was actually thinking aboutplaying ARC the other day.
I've also been wanting to playNHL for

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
No.
You can get fucked with yourarc.
You're off it.
You cannot get around it at all.

Speaker (01:02:37):
I do.
I like playing.
Huh?
Justin

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
has a very bad habit of getting right into it.
And then he goes, I've built thewall.
We are protected now see you insix months.

Speaker (01:02:50):
I've got other shit I've gotta play.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Uh, and then he removes it from his PlayStation
hides away in a little USBdrive, and then he gets in a
mood, oh, I might play arc and.
The moment's gone.

Speaker (01:03:06):
It's not,

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
it is the blood, sweat, and tears have gone.

Speaker (01:03:10):
No.
So you, you was looking atpossibly getting sons of the
forest as well.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
I am.
Yeah.

Speaker (01:03:16):
I know that we put a few hours into the forest
online.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Uh, yeah.

Speaker (01:03:21):
Before I fucked off.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Yeah.
Another one of those games you'dbuild a cabin and fuck it, I'm
out.
Deal with it yourself, Zach.

Speaker (01:03:28):
I'm just a creator.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
No, you're banned from building.
'cause then you might get a.
On there a bit often,

Speaker (01:03:36):
I, I hold your hand and teach you to walk and then
you're on your own.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Yeah, that's fine.
Now it happens.

Speaker (01:03:42):
Mm.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Nine times outta 10.
Gotta fix your dramas.

Speaker (01:03:45):
Have you got anything else for gaming this week?

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Not really.
I'm still very interested inthat Xbox combination and,

Speaker (01:03:53):
yeah.
There's not much, there's notthat much information about it
really, other than that leakstuff that come out the other
day.
But I'm intrigued by it as

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
well.
It's been up for the last coupleof years that that's the path
they'll go.
It wish only the, yeah, over thelast sort of two months that
more and the whispers aregetting stronger.
So interesting to see whatPlayStation do.

Speaker (01:04:20):
Yeah.
So Well, I, I think with all theXbox Games coming to PlayStation
and all that stuff, I thinkthat's all starting to sort
itself out.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
You can,

Speaker (01:04:31):
new fours is gonna come in straight to PlayStation.
Halo's coming to PlayStation.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Yeah.
You can cross play every hour.
It doesn't, it makes sense thatit, it, you just build the game
and if you wanna buy it to playit, you do it.

Speaker (01:04:47):
Yeah, no, I agree with that.
I, I just don't see how, Isuppose they, they probably pay
a lot of money for it to beexclusive to the console, but
you'd think developers wouldmake more money off it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
They will, by

Speaker (01:05:02):
having it on all consoles, but at, at the same
time, horizon zero dawn, and allthat's made by a PlayStation.
But if PlayStation sold the,sold the rights off to Xbox or
Microsoft.
Nintendo, that's more revenuefor'em as well.
But it also means that peoplewanna play those games.
They have to buy their console.
So where do you Yeah,

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
but you'd have to buy them consoles if they're
available to everyone on everyconsole.

Speaker (01:05:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
So does PlayStation allow Nintendo to have rights to
their games, though we all knowhow,

Speaker (01:05:36):
well, Nintendo's probably the only one that, you
know, they hold all the cards toall of their games, so.
They're probably the mainculprits for it.
And knowing the history betweenSony and Nintendo, I don't think
that they're gonna get alongvery well, to be honest.
No.
But yeah, that's the story foranother time, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Yeah.
So on the predictions, I guess.

Speaker (01:06:02):
Onto the predictions.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Yeah.

Speaker (01:06:05):
All right.
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He's been covering a fair area.
He was out at Warren a couple ofweeks ago.

(01:06:26):
You're up to Hunter Valley forthe next couple of weeks as
well.
So

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
yeah, I've got a couple of months here at the
moment.
But yeah, time away from thefamily, which is a bit hard,
but.
Hard.
Hard.
Yeah.

Speaker (01:06:40):
Best way.
The best way is just to get incontact and with him and see if
he can service your area, Isuppose, and what he can do for
you.
Yeah.
Or if you know anyone that'slooking into that sort of stuff.
Yeah.
All.
Zach, what are your predictionsthis week?

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
This week being international break soccer, I've
picked a couple of internationalgames.
Portugal he gave me Too, toostrong for Island and willing to
get around a bit of a Vikingclap and cheer on Iceland to
beat whatever the hell theirname is.

(01:07:19):
'cause I cannot pronounce it.

Speaker (01:07:21):
Yeah.
Ho.
Say

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
I've gone the.
Else Cowboys?
No.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Denver Broncos.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Denver Broncos.

Speaker (01:07:31):
Denver

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Bronco.
Denver Bronco.

Speaker (01:07:32):
Denver Broncos.
So

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
he's gone on.
And
the

Speaker (01:07:34):
Boston

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Brewers, he's gone on, got onto Jonesy's bandwagon
here and he's getting around theBroncos this week.

Speaker (01:07:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
And the Boston Brewers.

Speaker (01:07:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Which I'm, which I'm confident in them.
I reckon

Speaker (01:07:49):
you're confident in the Boston Bruins.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Yes.

Speaker (01:07:51):
Yes.
I didn't know you were such anexpert on ice hockey.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Just, just picking it up,

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
I suppose.
You told us you are a bit of anexpert in NFL.
We're still waiting for yourtips to come to fruition.

Speaker (01:08:03):
My tips are, I've got the Minnesota Wild in the NHL to
beat the San Jose Sharks and theRavens to beat the Cleveland
Browns.
This week, get four on the trotand he start heading towards
that Super Bowl.
Glory.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Well, I guess we'll see.

Speaker (01:08:22):
We will see and think they're gonna go on a run.
Now everyone seems healthy.
I think we're there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Speaking of us playing golf earlier.
Yeah.
And streaming to our newfoundYouTube channel and everything.
Little side bet who, who's everbet doesn't come off his week,
stands in front of the, the teebox and cops, the little driving

(01:08:47):
balls to the back.

Speaker (01:08:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Now we

Speaker (01:08:52):
can do that

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
now.
I'm fairly confident in mine.
Well, I picked wisely.
I was chasing a few dollarsigns.
Just a couple of favoritesthere.

Speaker (01:09:03):
Fuck.
I hope the fucking island get upall that team that you couldn't
pronounce.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
Well, no, I don't hope.

Speaker (01:09:09):
I hope so.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
How confident are you, Hoover?

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Look, I'm pretty confident at the moment.
Just
have

Speaker (01:09:16):
to, when you told me, I wouldn't have believed that the
Denver Broncos are gonna beat.
The Kansas City Chiefs, and Istill don't think they will, but
Denver is been, has been moresuccessful this year compared to
the Chiefs.
So there's a chance,

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
but I, I might even throw out a score 30,

Speaker (01:09:35):
a score,

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
33, the seven.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
You're going big.

Speaker (01:09:42):
That's a absolute hammering of five time frigging
Super Bowl contenders.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Yeah, because

Speaker (01:09:48):
three time champions,

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
they're not Super Bowl contenders this year, are
they?

Speaker (01:09:53):
Yeah, they're,

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
they're still contenders, so

Speaker (01:09:56):
they're still thereabouts.
Yeah.
30.
Got anything else This three

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
seven?
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
That's.

Speaker (01:10:01):
33 to seven one

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Yeah.

Speaker (01:10:04):
I can't wait to watch this game on Monday now straight
after night shift, I'm gonna sitdown and watch it because I
just, it's getting more,

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
there's a lot

Speaker (01:10:11):
of ridiculous,

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
there's a lot of welt riding on this.

Speaker (01:10:15):
There is a lot of welts riding on

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
this.
So we go on full packet 12.

Speaker (01:10:19):
I don't have a pack of 12 of them.
I've got a pack of six.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Uh,

Speaker (01:10:23):
three each

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
under team mill.
I go, oh, bucket.

Speaker (01:10:26):
That does include Hoover now too, right?
'cause anyone that gets all ofthem wrong.
So it's me and Hoover in this

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
thing.
Yeah.
So I'm turning up with a 44going drum full of ping pong
balls.
Two golf that day.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Is it if you get both of'em wrong or you only get one
wrong?

Speaker (01:10:41):
No.
If you get both of'em wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
In who?

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
There's two balls you get, you get

Speaker (01:10:47):
No.
If you get, if you get, you'vegotta get, you've gotta get both
of them right to have a shot athitting the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
So, right.
So whatever your bets are, onebet is one ball.
So if you get two ball, twowrong,

Speaker (01:10:58):
no,

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
you get two balls.

Speaker (01:10:59):
No,

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
you get

Speaker (01:11:00):
one only.
Only you get to tee it up.
You only get to tee up if yourbet comes off, which means both
games have to win.
If one loses, you're out.
Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Front or back?

Speaker (01:11:16):
Back?

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
You sure.

Speaker (01:11:18):
Hold on.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
I got, I've got a

Speaker (01:11:20):
full

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
mask that we can protect.

Speaker (01:11:23):
I need me face for streaming.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
That's all right.
This mask will cover it.

Speaker (01:11:28):
No.
All right.
You's got anything else?

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Nah, I guess that's,

Speaker (01:11:34):
you wanted to sta suite.
No.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
Yeah, no, there's not much happening this week.
Uh, head home to the

Speaker (01:11:40):
No

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
family this weekend.
Yeah.
Might, yeah.
Catch up on a bit of RustMobile,

Speaker (01:11:47):
play some battlefield.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Had a bit of mowing to catch up on.
I reckon I can drive the mowerwith me knees and play a bit of
Rust Mobile.

Speaker (01:11:54):
Yeah.
Right.
All right.
Let's buy from us.
Anyway.
Yeah, thanks for listening andthanks for your support and I
can share the page and.
Tell your friends

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
hero.

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
Thank you for joining Zach Hoover and I on the Inca
Here podcast.
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